RE: PDML Book 2010 - Sharpening
We've had at least one image submitted that is oversharpened to the point of having halos, which makes the picture look like dog poop. That was the whole POINT of the Canine Fecal Study XXIV image I submitted. But surely you don't want your dog poop to have halos, do you? Only if it's Saint Bernard poop -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Digging out in Pittsburgh
On 22/2/10, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: Ya know you ned tob e dfinnking a little bit to understsans it. but he drrank m ore writtin itt -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Good News from Montreal
On 22/2/10, Igor Roshchin, discombobulated, unleashed: there is a consistent jerk on my laptop Igor you shouldn't be too hard on yourself man. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 50mm lenses and flare
Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. Throwing down the gauntlet? Looks like the gloves are coming off. I admit only to being smitten. You pointing the finger at me? On the nail. Better be quick! Don't be cuticle. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 50mm lenses and flare
You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. Throwing down the gauntlet? Looks like the gloves are coming off. I admit only to being smitten. You pointing the finger at me? On the nail. Better be quick! Don't be cuticle. I'm outta this joint. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
Yep - they have known that for more than 20 years. That's why they haven't tried to compete with Canon Nikon for the top pro market. But they have found themselves a pretty good niche developing first-rate lenses, and camera bodies that sell reasonably well to the advanced amateurs (and somewhat to the low end of the pro market). That's where some of their RD dollars are being spent, because that's where their competition is perceived to be. The rest of the RD budget, of course, currently seems to be going on trying to pick up the first-time DSLR buyers who want to move up from a point-and-shoot to a somewhat more capable system. Personally I'd like to see at least one body with a lower pixel count, lower-noise sensor for low-light photography; the one big drawback with digital bodies is that you can't change the film for different conditions. But I'm still not convinced there's anything special about 24x36mm sensors; an 8MP or 10MP sensor made with today's technology should be capable of good results, and would have the advantage of working with current Pentax lenses. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:08:36PM -0700, Tom C wrote: Hear that Pentax? No need to go higher, do RD, develop new products that keep up with the competition. Oh, you already knew that? Excuse me. Tom C. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:51 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: Don't know about Paul, but I cvertainly would. ?If I were shooting Nikon I wouldn't feel the need for a D3x; ?for Canon I wouldn't see any point in paying through the nose for a 1Ds Mark whatever. I buy cameras that will do the job I need, not because they are the (current) top-of-the-line. ?And 14Mp is more pixels than I need; in fact the K10D (and, occasionally, the good old *ist-D) have more than enough pixels for nearly anything I want. ?Buying a camera just because somebody has stuck a flagship label on it is ridiculous. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 09:29:16PM -0700, Tom C wrote: Paul, Respectfully, if Pentax came out with a 21MP or 24MP digital body in FF similar to a Canon EOS 5D MKII or Nikon D3x in basic specifications, are you saying you would not find or suspect it to be a superior product to their current 14.6MP flagship? And that given the option to go with what would likely be viewed as their top of the line in the size factor, that you would choose a lesser model? Tom C. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:02 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I have not intention of going FF. With my DA* lenses, the K7 delivers all the quality I need. I've been selling some 24 x 30 prints, and the detail and sharpness are excellent. I hope Pentax continues to play a lead role in APS format. Their lens development strategy indicates that this exactly what is planned. Paul On Feb 22, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Tom C wrote: I understand exactly what Boris is saying. ?If a 35mm sensor is 1.5x that of an APS-C sensor, then given the same pixel density, one can expect a significant increase in resolution using a FF 35mm sensor over an APS-C sensor. Many people already have the 35mm lenses. I don't buy the digital lens superiority over those that were made for 35mm film systems. ?Maybe there are some benefits here and there, at certain f-stops but I've been getting great results with FF lenses on digital bodies. Yes I know it's with the sweet spot of the lens, and yes I know about chromatic aberration and vignetting with FF, and of course the noise issue with increased pixel count overall. ?As far as I'm concerned those all are excuses made when when one doesn't have a full FF body to offer to go along with a complement of FF lenses. There's a good reason why other mfrs have a FF body in their lineup. Specifically, Nikon, Canon and Sony do not have a sensor to offer that is 35mm FF format. ?So the 35mm FF format allows their user base to realize an increase in resolution over APS-C that is significant and detectable in tests, using their existing lenses and presumed purchases of new FF lenses. Those mfrs have not been unsuccessful with these products. I wager if Pentax came out with a FF 35mm format body, virtually every single person claiming they were perfectly satisfied with APS-C and could afford it, would jump to FF, in much the same manner that many did not need anything greater than a 6MP DSLR before there was anything better offered by Pentax. Tom C. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing wrong with a bigger sensor and more pixels. That said, I have no urge to change from what I'm using now. At all. It's working fine for my photography. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE
Re: It looks like Sigma announced some interesting looking lenses
Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: So, on the one hand I'm expecting a very good lens, on the other hand I'm expecting to have my kidney to send over to BH. We'll see... We're sorry, the price is two kidneys. PLease find enclosed one lens hood. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wanted: K-mount extension tube set
Darren, I have a set of 3 Panagors with one aperture lever - dunno if that suits your needs? Cheers Ecke 2010/2/22 CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com: Does anybody have an old set of automatic extension tubes, suitable for manual focus lenses? Brand doesn't matter too much. I've got a set of Pentax m42s, but I'd like a set for my SMC K lenses also. (I know you can get the ones on ebay plenty cheap, but just thought I'd see if anybody has a set collecting dust that they'd like to see put to use). Thanks! Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 50mm lenses and flare
You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. Throwing down the gauntlet? Looks like the gloves are coming off. I admit only to being smitten. You pointing the finger at me? On the nail. Better be quick! Don't be cuticle. I'm outta this joint. Sinew it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML book 2010: One week to go!
John Celio wrote: I think I've decided on my one submission for the book. I'm uncertain about the sharpening issue, though. I shoot raw, and so put a teeny bit more than Photoshop's default sharpening on the photo. If a submission is deemed too sharp by the editors, do we get a notification or just get the boot? No one gets the boot. But since sharpening is (or should be) a function of print size, and you don't know what the print size is going to be (hell, *we* don't know how big your photo will be presented yet), less sharpening is better. Bigger size = less sharpening. Over-sharpened shots will, by necessity, be reproduced smaller in the book. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
tamron 18-250
hi, for my bicycle ride in the himalayas this summer, i need to keep the things i take to a bare essential minimum. as for the camera gear, since i can't afford to take multiple lenses, i was thinking of getting the sigma 17-70 (older version). but after a month of trying, it's just not available here and it doesnt' look as if the situation is going to change. what *is* available is the tamron 18-250. it looks like a very convenient travel lens but i would like to hear the opinion of people here who have used it before buying it. so, appreciate and welcome your inputs. regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
[About NX-K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Samsung_K_mount_adapter_on_show_news_295199.html Last paragraph. ROTFL. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: tamron 18-250
I have the Pentax version of this lens. As far as I know they are almost identical. It is my all purpose lens. It is pretty good from 18-100, except from some rather heavy distortion in the widest end. From 100-150 and up it is a rather mediocre performer. But it is a lot better than not having tele when you need it. It handles ok, except from slow focus at the long end, and the zoom creeping is rather annoying when unlocked. Build is ok to, except from a weak lens hood. All in all, I recomend it, if you think you can live with the weak sides. I can. The fact is that I am rather fond of it. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2010/2/23 Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com: hi, for my bicycle ride in the himalayas this summer, i need to keep the things i take to a bare essential minimum. as for the camera gear, since i can't afford to take multiple lenses, i was thinking of getting the sigma 17-70 (older version). but after a month of trying, it's just not available here and it doesnt' look as if the situation is going to change. what *is* available is the tamron 18-250. it looks like a very convenient travel lens but i would like to hear the opinion of people here who have used it before buying it. so, appreciate and welcome your inputs. regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: tamron 18-250
Subash wrote: what *is* available is the tamron 18-250. it looks like a very convenient travel lens but i would like to hear the opinion of people here who have used it before buying it. so, appreciate and welcome your inputs. i haven't used it, but http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/tamron_18-270_3p5-6p3_vc_n15/ is a good writeup... there's also http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/sigma_18-200_3p5-6p3_os_n15/ which is in the same class... -Z -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: tamron 18-250
The 18-270 tested at DPR is not the same lens as the 18-250. My report was about the discontinued 18-250 -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2010/2/23 Z m...@mimirs-well.org: Subash wrote: what *is* available is the tamron 18-250. it looks like a very convenient travel lens but i would like to hear the opinion of people here who have used it before buying it. so, appreciate and welcome your inputs. i haven't used it, but http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/tamron_18-270_3p5-6p3_vc_n15/ is a good writeup... there's also http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/sigma_18-200_3p5-6p3_os_n15/ which is in the same class... -Z -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: tamron 18-250
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: I have the Pentax version of this lens. As far as I know they are almost identical. It is my all purpose lens. It is pretty good from 18-100, except from some rather heavy distortion in the widest end. thanks Tim. that's a convenient range to have and hopefully the distortion is software-correctable. All in all, I recomend it, if you think you can live with the weak sides. I can. The fact is that I am rather fond of it. it's obvious you like the lens and that's good to know. :) regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: tamron 18-250
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Z m...@mimirs-well.org wrote: Subash wrote: what *is* available is the tamron 18-250. it looks like a very convenient travel lens but i would like to hear the opinion of people here who have used it before buying it. so, appreciate and welcome your inputs. i haven't used it, but http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/tamron_18-270_3p5-6p3_vc_n15/ is a good writeup... there's also http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/sigma_18-200_3p5-6p3_os_n15/ which is in the same class... hi Z, as Tim pointed out, the 18-270 is a different lens altogether and i don't think the sigma is available where i am. thanks... regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [About NX-K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographiccomment :p
Thibouille wrote: http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Samsung_K_mount_adapter_on_show_news_295199.html Last paragraph. ROTFL. kids! Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 50mm lenses and flare
On 23 February 2010 17:43, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. Throwing down the gauntlet? Looks like the gloves are coming off. I admit only to being smitten. You pointing the finger at me? On the nail. Better be quick! Don't be cuticle. I'm outta this joint. Sinew it. Look at you guys carpal on. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
On Feb 22, 2010, at 11:29 PM, Tom C wrote: Paul, Respectfully, if Pentax came out with a 21MP or 24MP digital body in FF similar to a Canon EOS 5D MKII or Nikon D3x in basic specifications, are you saying you would not find or suspect it to be a superior product to their current 14.6MP flagship? And that given the option to go with what would likely be viewed as their top of the line in the size factor, that you would choose a lesser model? I'm saying I wouldn't buy a new camera now. When i need one, I would probably go with whatever the top of the line is from Pentax, providing it worked very well with all my DA* lenses. If not, I'd go with the Pentax model that was most suited to those lenses. The performance I'm currently getting is all I need at this time. I'm not going to print larger than 24 x 30, and the k7 does great at that size. Paul Tom C. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:02 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I have not intention of going FF. With my DA* lenses, the K7 delivers all the quality I need. I've been selling some 24 x 30 prints, and the detail and sharpness are excellent. I hope Pentax continues to play a lead role in APS format. Their lens development strategy indicates that this exactly what is planned. Paul On Feb 22, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Tom C wrote: I understand exactly what Boris is saying. If a 35mm sensor is 1.5x that of an APS-C sensor, then given the same pixel density, one can expect a significant increase in resolution using a FF 35mm sensor over an APS-C sensor. Many people already have the 35mm lenses. I don't buy the digital lens superiority over those that were made for 35mm film systems. Maybe there are some benefits here and there, at certain f-stops but I've been getting great results with FF lenses on digital bodies. Yes I know it's with the sweet spot of the lens, and yes I know about chromatic aberration and vignetting with FF, and of course the noise issue with increased pixel count overall. As far as I'm concerned those all are excuses made when when one doesn't have a full FF body to offer to go along with a complement of FF lenses. There's a good reason why other mfrs have a FF body in their lineup. Specifically, Nikon, Canon and Sony do not have a sensor to offer that is 35mm FF format. So the 35mm FF format allows their user base to realize an increase in resolution over APS-C that is significant and detectable in tests, using their existing lenses and presumed purchases of new FF lenses. Those mfrs have not been unsuccessful with these products. I wager if Pentax came out with a FF 35mm format body, virtually every single person claiming they were perfectly satisfied with APS-C and could afford it, would jump to FF, in much the same manner that many did not need anything greater than a 6MP DSLR before there was anything better offered by Pentax. Tom C. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing wrong with a bigger sensor and more pixels. That said, I have no urge to change from what I'm using now. At all. It's working fine for my photography. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
On Feb 23, 2010, at 12:08 AM, Tom C wrote: Hear that Pentax? No need to go higher, do RD, develop new products that keep up with the competition. Oh, you already knew that? Excuse me. But thanks for helping make that clear. However, further advances in APS will be welcome. Paul Tom C. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:51 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: Don't know about Paul, but I cvertainly would. If I were shooting Nikon I wouldn't feel the need for a D3x; for Canon I wouldn't see any point in paying through the nose for a 1Ds Mark whatever. I buy cameras that will do the job I need, not because they are the (current) top-of-the-line. And 14Mp is more pixels than I need; in fact the K10D (and, occasionally, the good old *ist-D) have more than enough pixels for nearly anything I want. Buying a camera just because somebody has stuck a flagship label on it is ridiculous. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 09:29:16PM -0700, Tom C wrote: Paul, Respectfully, if Pentax came out with a 21MP or 24MP digital body in FF similar to a Canon EOS 5D MKII or Nikon D3x in basic specifications, are you saying you would not find or suspect it to be a superior product to their current 14.6MP flagship? And that given the option to go with what would likely be viewed as their top of the line in the size factor, that you would choose a lesser model? Tom C. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:02 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I have not intention of going FF. With my DA* lenses, the K7 delivers all the quality I need. I've been selling some 24 x 30 prints, and the detail and sharpness are excellent. I hope Pentax continues to play a lead role in APS format. Their lens development strategy indicates that this exactly what is planned. Paul On Feb 22, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Tom C wrote: I understand exactly what Boris is saying. ?If a 35mm sensor is 1.5x that of an APS-C sensor, then given the same pixel density, one can expect a significant increase in resolution using a FF 35mm sensor over an APS-C sensor. Many people already have the 35mm lenses. I don't buy the digital lens superiority over those that were made for 35mm film systems. ?Maybe there are some benefits here and there, at certain f-stops but I've been getting great results with FF lenses on digital bodies. Yes I know it's with the sweet spot of the lens, and yes I know about chromatic aberration and vignetting with FF, and of course the noise issue with increased pixel count overall. ?As far as I'm concerned those all are excuses made when when one doesn't have a full FF body to offer to go along with a complement of FF lenses. There's a good reason why other mfrs have a FF body in their lineup. Specifically, Nikon, Canon and Sony do not have a sensor to offer that is 35mm FF format. ?So the 35mm FF format allows their user base to realize an increase in resolution over APS-C that is significant and detectable in tests, using their existing lenses and presumed purchases of new FF lenses. Those mfrs have not been unsuccessful with these products. I wager if Pentax came out with a FF 35mm format body, virtually every single person claiming they were perfectly satisfied with APS-C and could afford it, would jump to FF, in much the same manner that many did not need anything greater than a 6MP DSLR before there was anything better offered by Pentax. Tom C. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing wrong with a bigger sensor and more pixels. That said, I have no urge to change from what I'm using now. At all. It's working fine for my photography. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
I often push around in my head the idea of a fully modular camera and so consider the Ricoh GXR a huge step in the right direction. I have tons of ideas, I think I should/will write to Pentax... 2010/2/23 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: On Feb 23, 2010, at 12:08 AM, Tom C wrote: Hear that Pentax? No need to go higher, do RD, develop new products that keep up with the competition. Oh, you already knew that? Excuse me. But thanks for helping make that clear. However, further advances in APS will be welcome. Paul Tom C. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:51 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: Don't know about Paul, but I cvertainly would. If I were shooting Nikon I wouldn't feel the need for a D3x; for Canon I wouldn't see any point in paying through the nose for a 1Ds Mark whatever. I buy cameras that will do the job I need, not because they are the (current) top-of-the-line. And 14Mp is more pixels than I need; in fact the K10D (and, occasionally, the good old *ist-D) have more than enough pixels for nearly anything I want. Buying a camera just because somebody has stuck a flagship label on it is ridiculous. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 09:29:16PM -0700, Tom C wrote: Paul, Respectfully, if Pentax came out with a 21MP or 24MP digital body in FF similar to a Canon EOS 5D MKII or Nikon D3x in basic specifications, are you saying you would not find or suspect it to be a superior product to their current 14.6MP flagship? And that given the option to go with what would likely be viewed as their top of the line in the size factor, that you would choose a lesser model? Tom C. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:02 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I have not intention of going FF. With my DA* lenses, the K7 delivers all the quality I need. I've been selling some 24 x 30 prints, and the detail and sharpness are excellent. I hope Pentax continues to play a lead role in APS format. Their lens development strategy indicates that this exactly what is planned. Paul On Feb 22, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Tom C wrote: I understand exactly what Boris is saying. ?If a 35mm sensor is 1.5x that of an APS-C sensor, then given the same pixel density, one can expect a significant increase in resolution using a FF 35mm sensor over an APS-C sensor. Many people already have the 35mm lenses. I don't buy the digital lens superiority over those that were made for 35mm film systems. ?Maybe there are some benefits here and there, at certain f-stops but I've been getting great results with FF lenses on digital bodies. Yes I know it's with the sweet spot of the lens, and yes I know about chromatic aberration and vignetting with FF, and of course the noise issue with increased pixel count overall. ?As far as I'm concerned those all are excuses made when when one doesn't have a full FF body to offer to go along with a complement of FF lenses. There's a good reason why other mfrs have a FF body in their lineup. Specifically, Nikon, Canon and Sony do not have a sensor to offer that is 35mm FF format. ?So the 35mm FF format allows their user base to realize an increase in resolution over APS-C that is significant and detectable in tests, using their existing lenses and presumed purchases of new FF lenses. Those mfrs have not been unsuccessful with these products. I wager if Pentax came out with a FF 35mm format body, virtually every single person claiming they were perfectly satisfied with APS-C and could afford it, would jump to FF, in much the same manner that many did not need anything greater than a 6MP DSLR before there was anything better offered by Pentax. Tom C. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing wrong with a bigger sensor and more pixels. That said, I have no urge to change from what I'm using now. At all. It's working fine for my photography. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail
Re: [About NX-K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p
2010/2/23 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com: http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Samsung_K_mount_adapter_on_show_news_295199.html Last paragraph. ROTFL. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. yeah right... so funny it hurts :[ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Colorado National Monument
Tom C wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10715804size=lg Lovely. I think your photo has outgrown the constraints of photo.net -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 50mm lenses and flare
David Savage wrote: On 23 February 2010 17:43, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. Throwing down the gauntlet? Looks like the gloves are coming off. I admit only to being smitten. You pointing the finger at me? On the nail. Better be quick! Don't be cuticle. I'm outta this joint. Sinew it. Look at you guys carpal on. I've never meta carpal I didn't like -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wanted: K-mount extension tube set
Good morning, Ecke! Thanks for responding to my ad. I'm not terribly familiar with brands of extension tubes, but your will let me do stop-down metering, correct? How much do you have to have for them? Darren Addy Kearney, NE On 2/23/10, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Darren, I have a set of 3 Panagors with one aperture lever - dunno if that suits your needs? Cheers Ecke 2010/2/22 CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com: Does anybody have an old set of automatic extension tubes, suitable for manual focus lenses? Brand doesn't matter too much. I've got a set of Pentax m42s, but I'd like a set for my SMC K lenses also. (I know you can get the ones on ebay plenty cheap, but just thought I'd see if anybody has a set collecting dust that they'd like to see put to use). Thanks! Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Gone digital? I'm always looking for old Pentax film cameras and lenses to fit Pentax, (either K-mount or M42 screwmount). Also have a weakness for twin lens cameras. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 50mm lenses and flare
You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. Throwing down the gauntlet? Looks like the gloves are coming off. I admit only to being smitten. You pointing the finger at me? On the nail. Better be quick! Don't be cuticle. I'm outta this joint. Sinew it. Look at you guys carpal on. I've never meta carpal I didn't like Glover-man Chang strikes again. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: I often push around in my head the idea of a fully modular camera and so consider the Ricoh GXR a huge step in the right direction. I have tons of ideas, I think I should/will write to Pentax... Tell them to call it the LXD. 2010/2/23 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: On Feb 23, 2010, at 12:08 AM, Tom C wrote: Hear that Pentax? No need to go higher, do RD, develop new products that keep up with the competition. Oh, you already knew that? Excuse me. But thanks for helping make that clear. However, further advances in APS will be welcome. Paul Tom C. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:51 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: Don't know about Paul, but I cvertainly would. If I were shooting Nikon I wouldn't feel the need for a D3x; for Canon I wouldn't see any point in paying through the nose for a 1Ds Mark whatever. I buy cameras that will do the job I need, not because they are the (current) top-of-the-line. And 14Mp is more pixels than I need; in fact the K10D (and, occasionally, the good old *ist-D) have more than enough pixels for nearly anything I want. Buying a camera just because somebody has stuck a flagship label on it is ridiculous. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 09:29:16PM -0700, Tom C wrote: Paul, Respectfully, if Pentax came out with a 21MP or 24MP digital body in FF similar to a Canon EOS 5D MKII or Nikon D3x in basic specifications, are you saying you would not find or suspect it to be a superior product to their current 14.6MP flagship? And that given the option to go with what would likely be viewed as their top of the line in the size factor, that you would choose a lesser model? Tom C. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:02 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I have not intention of going FF. With my DA* lenses, the K7 delivers all the quality I need. I've been selling some 24 x 30 prints, and the detail and sharpness are excellent. I hope Pentax continues to play a lead role in APS format. Their lens development strategy indicates that this exactly what is planned. Paul On Feb 22, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Tom C wrote: I understand exactly what Boris is saying. ?If a 35mm sensor is 1.5x that of an APS-C sensor, then given the same pixel density, one can expect a significant increase in resolution using a FF 35mm sensor over an APS-C sensor. Many people already have the 35mm lenses. I don't buy the digital lens superiority over those that were made for 35mm film systems. ?Maybe there are some benefits here and there, at certain f-stops but I've been getting great results with FF lenses on digital bodies. Yes I know it's with the sweet spot of the lens, and yes I know about chromatic aberration and vignetting with FF, and of course the noise issue with increased pixel count overall. ?As far as I'm concerned those all are excuses made when when one doesn't have a full FF body to offer to go along with a complement of FF lenses. There's a good reason why other mfrs have a FF body in their lineup. Specifically, Nikon, Canon and Sony do not have a sensor to offer that is 35mm FF format. ?So the 35mm FF format allows their user base to realize an increase in resolution over APS-C that is significant and detectable in tests, using their existing lenses and presumed purchases of new FF lenses. Those mfrs have not been unsuccessful with these products. I wager if Pentax came out with a FF 35mm format body, virtually every single person claiming they were perfectly satisfied with APS-C and could afford it, would jump to FF, in much the same manner that many did not need anything greater than a 6MP DSLR before there was anything better offered by Pentax. Tom C. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing wrong with a bigger sensor and more pixels. That said, I have no urge to change from what I'm using now. At all. It's working fine for my photography. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML
Re: PESO -- Egrit on the Wing
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:54 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Another blown out big white bird a long way away... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20egretonthewing.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax F 70-210mm f5.0~5.6 I like the framing. The only problem I have is the one you already mentioned: too bad the bird's a bit blown out. Not enough to bother me a great deal, and in fact had you not mentioned it I likely wouldn't have. Nice photo! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
I simply sense what appears to be a general dichotomy between words, actions and wishes (trichotomy?). :-) 1. There's the oft expressed wish for a better featured, higher end body however one defines it. 2. Many Pentax owners do indeed upgrade when new models comes out. 3. However when it's pointed out that Pentax does not have this or that, often the response is 'my Kx works just fine' and there's no wish or need for anything better. The big 2 and Sony have what is, perceived by many, to be an upgrade path, a step up from the APS-C or such based bodies. The images and test results on these cameras bear out the claims of increased resolution. Is it easier to put more pixels on a bigger chip than putting more pixels on a smaller chip? Yes. Does a bigger chip allow for more pixels with lower noise levels than a smaller chip with more pixels? In general, yes. So it would seem that in general, for the majority of applications, more is better. Even for low-light applications, fewer pixels on a bigger chip is better depending on where noise and raw resolution intersect. When/if the 645D is released, Pentax will be showing that they also agree with this point of view. However, they could surely sell a lot more FF 35mm format DSLR's than they will sell 645D's. largely because of the widely available legacy glass. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [About NX-K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p
Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Samsung_K_mount_adapter_on_show_news_295199.html Last paragraph. ROTFL. Did Samsung just (re)invent the aperture ring? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Paul, Respectfully, if Pentax came out with a 21MP or 24MP digital body in FF similar to a Canon EOS 5D MKII or Nikon D3x in basic specifications, are you saying you would not find or suspect it to be a superior product to their current 14.6MP flagship? And that given the option to go with what would likely be viewed as their top of the line in the size factor, that you would choose a lesser model? Tom C. On past evidence, professional photographers will buy and use precisely what their customers tell them to. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:02 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I have not intention of going FF. With my DA* lenses, the K7 delivers all the quality I need. I've been selling some 24 x 30 prints, and the detail and sharpness are excellent. I hope Pentax continues to play a lead role in APS format. Their lens development strategy indicates that this exactly what is planned. Paul On Feb 22, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Tom C wrote: I understand exactly what Boris is saying. If a 35mm sensor is 1.5x that of an APS-C sensor, then given the same pixel density, one can expect a significant increase in resolution using a FF 35mm sensor over an APS-C sensor. Many people already have the 35mm lenses. I don't buy the digital lens superiority over those that were made for 35mm film systems. Maybe there are some benefits here and there, at certain f-stops but I've been getting great results with FF lenses on digital bodies. Yes I know it's with the sweet spot of the lens, and yes I know about chromatic aberration and vignetting with FF, and of course the noise issue with increased pixel count overall. As far as I'm concerned those all are excuses made when when one doesn't have a full FF body to offer to go along with a complement of FF lenses. There's a good reason why other mfrs have a FF body in their lineup. Specifically, Nikon, Canon and Sony do not have a sensor to offer that is 35mm FF format. So the 35mm FF format allows their user base to realize an increase in resolution over APS-C that is significant and detectable in tests, using their existing lenses and presumed purchases of new FF lenses. Those mfrs have not been unsuccessful with these products. I wager if Pentax came out with a FF 35mm format body, virtually every single person claiming they were perfectly satisfied with APS-C and could afford it, would jump to FF, in much the same manner that many did not need anything greater than a 6MP DSLR before there was anything better offered by Pentax. Tom C. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing wrong with a bigger sensor and more pixels. That said, I have no urge to change from what I'm using now. At all. It's working fine for my photography. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: tamron 18-250
2010/2/23 Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com: hi, for my bicycle ride in the himalayas this summer, i need to keep the things i take to a bare essential minimum. as for the camera gear, since i can't afford to take multiple lenses, i was thinking of getting the sigma 17-70 (older version). but after a month of trying, it's just not available here and it doesnt' look as if the situation is going to change. what *is* available is the tamron 18-250. it looks like a very convenient travel lens but i would like to hear the opinion of people here who have used it before buying it. so, appreciate and welcome your inputs. regards, subash hi subash, nice to hear your trip preps are moving along =) the pentax version of the 18-250 was my first lens because at the time I could afford only one lens, period. It was the always on for about 5000 exposures before I got more glass. May I intersperse the question why you choose Tamron over Pentax? It is no longer my always on which is now the 16-50 because of its superior performance and handling but the 18-250 is still my always carried - as often as I can it is in a pocket somewhere because it is good enough to the point that I don't see enough difference or need to replace it with a 55-200 or 50-300 and don't pack enough moola for a 60-250 unless I can get one used at half price or so. It is sharper wide open than the 16-50, although not tack sharp and still sharp enough at f/8 although outdone by the 16-50 then. Ultimately, both are blown out of the water at all apertures by the DFA 50 and 100 but that doesn't come as much of a surprise for me and that's all she wrote for Pentax lenses I own. Zoom creep wouldn't be so bad if it was zoom creep, my copy exhibits more symptoms of zoom fall when pointed down more than a few degrees but I have yet to find a way to slow that down. Now that I write about it the idea crosses my mind to take some really thin el cheapo packaging use display protector foil and put it on/around the outermost barrel to thicken it just enough. I have two big rolls of that stuff so I will give it a try and see what comes. What I am trying to say: keep an eye on the degree of zoom creep as in the long run it gets to be a huge pain. Distortion of horizontal lines at the wide end is no fun at all if you shoot horizontal lines a lot but no issue otherwise. The viewfinder image darkens some at the long end but only on appropriate levels. I can't quite agree with Tim about the far end performance. But then I have nothing to pixel peep compare with directly. My Canon FD 70-210/4 and 200/4 are no option for lack of comparability. All I can do is ask buddy next door to borrow his K-7 and 55-200 WR kit lens and take some comparison shots (with my K10D as well) - if that helps you I will gladly do so!! What I can say is I've never had to weed out a shot because of a short between eye and subject that was not either autofocus or metering. I manual focus a lot and properly focused the lens works fine. I can also say that now that I have other glass I have never when shooting with the 18-250 in a respective focal length also covered by another piece of glass I have found myself thinking damn why didn't I bring the soandso-mm/bla; it is still god enough as an always on in my book. Hope this helps and I have lots of time on my hands still being sick at home so feel free to ask for all the shots you need. Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML book 2010: One week to go!
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 6:06 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: No one gets the boot. But since sharpening is (or should be) a function of print size, and you don't know what the print size is going to be (hell, *we* don't know how big your photo will be presented yet), less sharpening is better. Bigger size = less sharpening. Over-sharpened shots will, by necessity, be reproduced smaller in the book. Well, I've already submitted my three, and the one I suspect will be chosen will not need sharpening, that's for sure. ;-) So this question is hypothetical (for next year maybe). I almost always selectively sharpen. Usually it's just the subject, sometimes just the face of the subject. Most of the frame remains unsharpened. How (if at all) could that be accomodated? Thanks. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
On 2/23/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: When/if the 645D is released, Pentax will be showing that they also agree with this point of view. However, they could surely sell a lot more FF 35mm format DSLR's than they will sell 645D's. largely because of the widely available legacy glass. I'd like to see an EVIL camera that is to medium format as the G1 is to 35 mm/APS-C. Micro 66 that can take almost any existing medium format lens via an adapter. A 6x6 format can take 645 lenses too. Crop to 645 in either vertical or horizontal and you are within the image circle the lens was designed for. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
2010/2/23 Tom C caka...@gmail.com: I simply sense what appears to be a general dichotomy between words, actions and wishes (trichotomy?). :-) 1. There's the oft expressed wish for a better featured, higher end body however one defines it. 2. Many Pentax owners do indeed upgrade when new models comes out. 3. However when it's pointed out that Pentax does not have this or that, often the response is 'my Kx works just fine' and there's no wish or need for anything better. The big 2 and Sony have what is, perceived by many, to be an upgrade path, a step up from the APS-C or such based bodies. The images and test results on these cameras bear out the claims of increased resolution. Is it easier to put more pixels on a bigger chip than putting more pixels on a smaller chip? Yes. Does a bigger chip allow for more pixels with lower noise levels than a smaller chip with more pixels? In general, yes. So it would seem that in general, for the majority of applications, more is better. Even for low-light applications, fewer pixels on a bigger chip is better depending on where noise and raw resolution intersect. When/if the 645D is released, Pentax will be showing that they also agree with this point of view. However, they could surely sell a lot more FF 35mm format DSLR's than they will sell 645D's. largely because of the widely available legacy glass. just call it a mixture of brand loyalty and force of habit - we stick with pentax cause we feel so good about them that that feeling outweighs the perceived degree of NEED for an upgrade. We know they may have something measurebatorally better or maybe even outright superior but it isn't Pentax and we have no bond with it. And if you want my opinion, sticking with good enough is so much better for the environment and so much less wankery, I will always consider it the right thing to do no matter what any individual or marketing department may try to convince me of. The only thing I find hard to deal with is that Pentax doesn't seem to have the brains now to design glass with ff image circles because it means that one day BANG! an ff upgrade will blow up in my face and value of my DA glass will be blown to smithereens (think Canon FD and even EF - these days it is EF-S or bust) so every time I need another lens I think hard about sticking with Pentax or going elsewhere. Fortunately I can always buy and feel good about an FA limited... But that will take me only SO far... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
2010/2/23 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: Tell them to call it the LXD. will do if you don't ask royalties =) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Drive-by Smiles
As I was shooting Vanessa in Kensington Market (see yesterday's PESO)
I stepped back into the street so I could get her and her bike in a
few shots. A car approaches (the streets in Kensington are very
narrow and usually over-run by pedestrians, so cars have to take it
slow and usually are pretty cool about giving pedestrians the right of
way. I saw this car coming, so I stepped back, still pointing my
camera at Vanessa. This guy stops in front of me with this big smile
on his face and wouldn't continue until I took his pic. So I did. I
liked the result ('cause I'm a sucker for smiles):
http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/02/drive-by-smiles.html
Hope you like. Comments always welcome.
cheers,
frank
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Re: [About NX-K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographiccomment :p
- Original Message - From: Thibouille Subject: [About NX-K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographiccomment :p http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Samsung_K_mount_adapter_on_show_news_295199.html Last paragraph. ROTFL. Proof positive that if you really want to be a writer, all you have to do is get an internet connection. Soon, if you want to be a brain surgeon, all you will have to get is a hockey stick. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
What gets lost in discussions of 135 format (what is incorrectly referred to as full frame) vs. APS-C is what are the real usability benefits. People get hung up on resolution numbers, like as if that is the most important thing in the world, or, like some idiot on PentaxForums, proved in a roundabout way that there is no high ISO noise advantage to the current top performing full frames because the lenses have to be stopped down more on 135 format to get the same depth of field. Like since when did DOF trump all else in low light photography? But this is the mentality of the apologist brigade. Find some straw to grasp and hold it up as something important. Consider what we used to look through before the days of the toilet roll viewfinders that we get now. Go and pick up an ME-Super or an LX or an MX. Spend some time looking through it's viewfinder. Now pick up your Pentax DSLR and see how woefully small and inadequate it is. A 135 camera gives you a 135 sized viewfinder. To me, this is worth going after. Because Pentax got lazy and didn't change the registration distance of their DSLR cameras, they are stuck with a flange to focal plane distance that isn't well suited to the format. This is, in part, why we can't get really wide angle lenses. Shorten the register distance to ~30mm and all of a sudden lenses rectilinear lenses in the 8mm focal length range become more viable. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
Paul, at home my computer screen has approximately the size of A4 paper (may be even slightly bigger) with a bit more on the sides. Thusly, if I open a landscape picture in LR to fit the screen, it actually looks pretty good. Yes, I know it is not equal to print, but this is not equal to web-sized image either. Having said that - I looked at 100% crops, yes, I did pixel-peep if that's what you mean and I also looked at fit-the-screen images. They look impressive. And Sony color fidelity is superb as well... I am not saying that my camera is bad. Nor am I saying that it is not enough for I am doing. I am only saying that it is likely that full frame camera will be better in IQ department, that's all. And if the next round of price wars will bring the price of FF cameras to $1500-$1800 level - I surely would be one of those people whom Tom meant virtually. Galia will then inherit the K-7, which befits her better due to its size and generally better speed and precision and K10D will finally be out of service. Though Godfrey maintains that 6MP is enough, and it probably is, to my mind it is very much like being able to drive fast 'cause one knows how to extract all from one's car or simply to buy a car with bigger engine. I realize that it is likely that Godfrey's skills and tools besides his camera are better than mine. I am perfectly fine with that. But nonetheless, I see no reason to look down at FF as it keeps proving itself over and over. Boris On 22/02/2010 19:29, paul stenquist wrote: If you're looking at his pics on a computer and you're seeing a difference in web-sized images, you're either responding to the processing skill of the photographer or kidding yourself. Sorry, but that's a fact. No flames felt and none intended:-) Paul On Feb 22, 2010, at 5:42 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hey there. Just my opinion, really. I've spent good day and a half with my Minoltian friend just recently. He's got Sony A850 and assortment of Minolta FF lenses, such as 50/1.7, beercan, and some more. Well, I admit - I am envious. The look and the technical qualities of the pics are pretty darn amazing. Well, whatever you say about the full or fool format - I say it is full and not fool. Let's hope Pentax does what I would like them to do ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: tamron 18-250
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:28:47 +0100 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: nice to hear your trip preps are moving along =) yes indeed. thanks. [...] May I intersperse the question why you choose Tamron over Pentax? the pentax is not available here. it'll have to come from singapore through the grey market channels and the waiting time is anywhere from 1 to 2 months. no guarantee that it'll come even after a long waiting period. that's for all pentax lenses. :) [...] Hope this helps and I have lots of time on my hands still being sick at home so feel free to ask for all the shots you need. thanks Ecke, it does. appreciate it. if it is not too much of a problem, it will be nice if you can put up a small gallery somewhere and send the link. but given that one can't expect too much out of an 'all-purpose' superzoom and given also the positive response here, i think i'll go ahead and get it. thanks, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
On 22/02/2010 23:51, John Francis wrote: Don't know about Paul, but I cvertainly would. If I were shooting Nikon I wouldn't feel the need for a D3x; for Canon I wouldn't see any point in paying through the nose for a 1Ds Mark whatever. I buy cameras that will do the job I need, not because they are the (current) top-of-the-line. And 14Mp is more pixels than I need; in fact the K10D (and, occasionally, the good old *ist-D) have more than enough pixels for nearly anything I want. Buying a camera just because somebody has stuck a flagship label on it is ridiculous. John, would you then not choose a Pentax camera a-la Nikon D3s or D700 with relatively few but very high quality full frame pixels? Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
- Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame On past evidence, professional photographers will buy and use precisely what their customers tell them to. I'm calling bullshit on this one Mike, though I did have a bride's father once express mild disdain because I was shooting his daughter's wedding with a Pentax rather than a Nikon or Canon. This was very much the exception. Professional photographers will shoot what they need to shoot to create images that are competitive within their marketplace. If that morphs into 135 format, then that will become the defacto professional format and anyone who doesn't make a 135 camera will be an also ran. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Drive-by Smiles
Delightful with the story Frank. Regards, Bob S.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 7:39 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
As I was shooting Vanessa in Kensington Market (see yesterday's PESO)
I stepped back into the street so I could get her and her bike in a
few shots. A car approaches (the streets in Kensington are very
narrow and usually over-run by pedestrians, so cars have to take it
slow and usually are pretty cool about giving pedestrians the right of
way. I saw this car coming, so I stepped back, still pointing my
camera at Vanessa. This guy stops in front of me with this big smile
on his face and wouldn't continue until I took his pic. So I did. I
liked the result ('cause I'm a sucker for smiles):
http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/02/drive-by-smiles.html
Hope you like. Comments always welcome.
cheers,
frank
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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
On 23/02/2010 08:21, Tom C wrote: When/if the 645D is released, Pentax will be showing that they also agree with this point of view. However, they could surely sell a lot more FF 35mm format DSLR's than they will sell 645D's. largely because of the widely available legacy glass. Tom C. Tom, the problem with this upgrade path is that of lenses. You cannot or wouldn't wanna mount FA 43 on 645 body. Boris P.S. I am thinking that eventually Pentax will release FF body just because everyone else would have done it. You know - marketing folk will force the engineering people to do what marketing folk think is right. But given a chance to preview the FF camera like I just did is interesting and gives a new perspective on things. You know - actually using it as compared to talking about it. Though admittedly - this camera is big and heavy. That, however, is subject to Moore's law... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
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Re: [About NX-K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographiccomment :p
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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
On Feb 23, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 23/02/2010 08:21, Tom C wrote: When/if the 645D is released, Pentax will be showing that they also agree with this point of view. However, they could surely sell a lot more FF 35mm format DSLR's than they will sell 645D's. largely because of the widely available legacy glass. Tom C. Tom, the problem with this upgrade path is that of lenses. You cannot or wouldn't wanna mount FA 43 on 645 body. And that's the problem with FF as well. All of the recent, high quality Pentax lenses are for APS format. That should tell you where they're headed. Paul Boris P.S. I am thinking that eventually Pentax will release FF body just because everyone else would have done it. You know - marketing folk will force the engineering people to do what marketing folk think is right. But given a chance to preview the FF camera like I just did is interesting and gives a new perspective on things. You know - actually using it as compared to talking about it. Though admittedly - this camera is big and heavy. That, however, is subject to Moore's law... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
Yes, Bill, I am with you on this one. My friend, who bought recently this Sony A850 had similar experience. He's been shooting with Minolta 7D for 4.5 years more or less on the same premise that he did not need anything more than that, and the camera itself is perfectly capable. But when, as he said, he looked into the VF of his soon-to-be new camera in the shop, having mounted 50 mm lens, his world has changed... Boris On 23/02/2010 08:43, William Robb wrote: What gets lost in discussions of 135 format (what is incorrectly referred to as full frame) vs. APS-C is what are the real usability benefits. People get hung up on resolution numbers, like as if that is the most important thing in the world, or, like some idiot on PentaxForums, proved in a roundabout way that there is no high ISO noise advantage to the current top performing full frames because the lenses have to be stopped down more on 135 format to get the same depth of field. Like since when did DOF trump all else in low light photography? But this is the mentality of the apologist brigade. Find some straw to grasp and hold it up as something important. Consider what we used to look through before the days of the toilet roll viewfinders that we get now. Go and pick up an ME-Super or an LX or an MX. Spend some time looking through it's viewfinder. Now pick up your Pentax DSLR and see how woefully small and inadequate it is. A 135 camera gives you a 135 sized viewfinder. To me, this is worth going after. Because Pentax got lazy and didn't change the registration distance of their DSLR cameras, they are stuck with a flange to focal plane distance that isn't well suited to the format. This is, in part, why we can't get really wide angle lenses. Shorten the register distance to ~30mm and all of a sudden lenses rectilinear lenses in the 8mm focal length range become more viable. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
Well I've got a lot of FF Pentax legacy lenses that are high quality. Whether we can use APS-C factor lenses is not the point, although in camera crop is the obvious solution to that. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:06 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Feb 23, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 23/02/2010 08:21, Tom C wrote: When/if the 645D is released, Pentax will be showing that they also agree with this point of view. However, they could surely sell a lot more FF 35mm format DSLR's than they will sell 645D's. largely because of the widely available legacy glass. Tom C. Tom, the problem with this upgrade path is that of lenses. You cannot or wouldn't wanna mount FA 43 on 645 body. And that's the problem with FF as well. All of the recent, high quality Pentax lenses are for APS format. That should tell you where they're headed. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
In fact, that's the basis on which Pentax sold their first DSLR and all successive ones don't fail to remind us of the fact. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Well I've got a lot of FF Pentax legacy lenses that are high quality. Whether we can use APS-C factor lenses is not the point, although in camera crop is the obvious solution to that. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:06 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Feb 23, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 23/02/2010 08:21, Tom C wrote: When/if the 645D is released, Pentax will be showing that they also agree with this point of view. However, they could surely sell a lot more FF 35mm format DSLR's than they will sell 645D's. largely because of the widely available legacy glass. Tom C. Tom, the problem with this upgrade path is that of lenses. You cannot or wouldn't wanna mount FA 43 on 645 body. And that's the problem with FF as well. All of the recent, high quality Pentax lenses are for APS format. That should tell you where they're headed. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Good News from Montreal
Excellent news. Btw, what about the truck ? On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:20 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Wendy reports that the dogs have been found. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [About NX-K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographiccomment :p
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: [About NX-K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographiccomment :p Soon, if you want to be a brain surgeon, all you will have to get is a hockey stick. How are you boys taking the loss to Team USA? NBC was too stupid to broadcast it live. Oh the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat! What are you talking about? Seriously, I couldn't give a rat's ass about the Olympics in particular and sports in general. I vaguely follow Canadian football, but I am smart enough to realize that in the grand scheme of things, sports in general and televised sports in particular are at best a diversion for people who have no lives to speak of. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame Well I've got a lot of FF Pentax legacy lenses that are high quality. Whether we can use APS-C factor lenses is not the point, although in camera crop is the obvious solution to that. I believe that the recent DA* lenses (you know, the ones with the shitty AF motors) actually do cover the 135 format. They are also big. This might indicate that Pentax knows that at some point, either willingly or whether they have to drag it's user base kicking and screaming into the modern era, they will have to market a 135 format DSLR. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Good News from Montreal
Tue Feb 23 02:28:10 CST 2010 Cotty unleashed: On 22/2/10, Igor Roshchin, discombobulated, unleashed: there is a consistent jerk on my laptop Igor you shouldn't be too hard on yourself man. HAR! :-) ... but it only shows as: ___/\__ || (O) | -- ;-P) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
On Feb 23, 2010, at 9:35 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame Well I've got a lot of FF Pentax legacy lenses that are high quality. Whether we can use APS-C factor lenses is not the point, although in camera crop is the obvious solution to that. I believe that the recent DA* lenses (you know, the ones with the shitty AF motors) actually do cover the 135 format. The 60-250 is the only DA* lens that reportedly covers 135 format, and it's said to be not as happy in the corners at that dimension. These lenses were obviously made for APS. Paul They are also big. This might indicate that Pentax knows that at some point, either willingly or whether they have to drag it's user base kicking and screaming into the modern era, they will have to market a 135 format DSLR. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: tamron 18-250
eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: I have lots of time on my hands still being sick at home so feel free to ask for all the shots you need. Vodka no ice, please. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
- Original Message - From: P N Stenquist Subject: Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame The 60-250 is the only DA* lens that reportedly covers 135 format, and it's said to be not as happy in the corners at that dimension. These lenses were obviously made for APS. Perhaps I'll check that out when my 60-250 comes back from having it's almost unused AF motor replaced. I did stick my 55/1.4 onto a film body and it seems to cover the format, and from what I've read, the new 100mm macro covers the 135 format as well. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: tamron 18-250
2010/2/23 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: Vodka no ice, please. glad you had the good sense for no ice - by the time it gets there it would be thawed and dry ice ruins the taste of anything... plus I doubt you'd get on the EuroStar or a ferry for a shot ]=P However, you're welcome to stop by for one if/when ever you're in the area. Just make sure you specify Polish / Swedish / Russian / Burmese / wherever in advance as I am not alway well stocked. I drink some of it, too, you know =Q/D Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame On past evidence, professional photographers will buy and use precisely what their customers tell them to. I'm calling bullshit on this one Mike, though I did have a bride's father once express mild disdain because I was shooting his daughter's wedding with a Pentax rather than a Nikon or Canon. This was very much the exception. As, I think, is wedding photography very much the exception because the photographer meets joe public instead of some corporate geek. Professional photographers will shoot what they need to shoot to create images that are competitive within their marketplace. If that morphs into 135 format, then that will become the defacto professional format and anyone who doesn't make a 135 camera will be an also ran. Precisely my point. If your customer, the big corporation that you make most of your living from, demands 25-30Mp files you have no choice but to go to a larger sensor. I seem to remember this (demanding of larger files that were able to be supplied with existing equipment) happening to at least one person here in the past. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Good News from Montreal
2010/2/23 Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org: On the original subject, - I am glad to hear the dogs were found safe. hound safe, you mean? =) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
- Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame As, I think, is wedding photography very much the exception because the photographer meets joe public instead of some corporate geek. Wedding photography is very much the norm. There are a lot more wedding photographers that corporate boys out there. Corporate photography is (and I'm sure Paul will correct me if he can) is moving more and more towards stock photography. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [About NX-K-mount adapter] Wanna have some fun? A funny photographic comment :p
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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
Talk about a niche outfit. They'd be the only APS-C is all we got DSLR manufacturer in the business. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:35 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame Well I've got a lot of FF Pentax legacy lenses that are high quality. Whether we can use APS-C factor lenses is not the point, although in camera crop is the obvious solution to that. I believe that the recent DA* lenses (you know, the ones with the shitty AF motors) actually do cover the 135 format. They are also big. This might indicate that Pentax knows that at some point, either willingly or whether they have to drag it's user base kicking and screaming into the modern era, they will have to market a 135 format DSLR. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
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Re: Geso Wagg Road Snow Golf day
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:29 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: That doesn't look like a golf club: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10714911 Fun set, Dave! cheers, frank Any thing goes Frank. Dave -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
On 23/2/10, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: As, I think, is wedding photography very much the exception because the photographer meets joe public instead of some corporate geek. Hmm - in a way the corporate geeks are worse - not only do they want value for money, they want it to look like they are getting all the icing on the cake. I am shooting web video productions and I could easily do it on my small solid-state HD camera. Instead, out comes the big SD camera and all the lights - to them it looks like the real deal. When they bring around *their* clients to show off, they gloat and nod approvingly. With the small camera they look shocked. I get the message, and that's clear. They pay the money. They can have me dressed in leopard skin if they want. I would imagine that most corporate stills clients are just as ignorant. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - my stuff on ebay - please look, pretty please. WITH THE LINK
thanks ann, also can you give me a price incl shipment to germany for the image drive please? offlist if you like cheers tia ecke 2010/2/22 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: LOl I copied but didnt paste - duh http://shop.ebay.com/annsan/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg=50 Evan Hanson wrote: Ann do you have a link? Evan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Drive-by Smiles
Love it
Dave
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:39 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
As I was shooting Vanessa in Kensington Market (see yesterday's PESO)
I stepped back into the street so I could get her and her bike in a
few shots. A car approaches (the streets in Kensington are very
narrow and usually over-run by pedestrians, so cars have to take it
slow and usually are pretty cool about giving pedestrians the right of
way. I saw this car coming, so I stepped back, still pointing my
camera at Vanessa. This guy stops in front of me with this big smile
on his face and wouldn't continue until I took his pic. So I did. I
liked the result ('cause I'm a sucker for smiles):
http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/02/drive-by-smiles.html
Hope you like. Comments always welcome.
cheers,
frank
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Re: Flash sync volt of K7 and K20D
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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
On Feb 23, 2010, at 9:47 AM, mike wilson wrote: William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame On past evidence, professional photographers will buy and use precisely what their customers tell them to. I'm calling bullshit on this one Mike, though I did have a bride's father once express mild disdain because I was shooting his daughter's wedding with a Pentax rather than a Nikon or Canon. This was very much the exception. As, I think, is wedding photography very much the exception because the photographer meets joe public instead of some corporate geek. Professional photographers will shoot what they need to shoot to create images that are competitive within their marketplace. If that morphs into 135 format, then that will become the defacto professional format and anyone who doesn't make a 135 camera will be an also ran. Precisely my point. If your customer, the big corporation that you make most of your living from, demands 25-30Mp files you have no choice but to go to a larger sensor. I seem to remember this (demanding of larger files that were able to be supplied with existing equipment) happening to at least one person here in the past. I work for a wide range of clients, including ad agencies with big-dollar clients as well as numerous national and local newspapers and magazines. No one has ever requested a file larger than 30 megabytes. I frequently provide 41 megabyte files, which is the size of a k7 RAW file converted without interpolation. Some clients have asked that I downsize them a bit before turning them over. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML book 2010: One week to go!
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 12:13 AM, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote: . If a submission is deemed too sharp by the editors, do we get a notification or just get the boot? No, you just have to stay here on the PDML for an extra two years. Sort of like hell for photographers. vbg Dave John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio - Original Message - From: m...@robertstech.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 4:49 PM Subject: PDML book 2010: One week to go! One week left to submit your photos for the 2010 PDML Photo Annual! You only have seven days left in which toupload your three shots and have your work seen alongside that of PDML photographers including Cotty, myself and Frank Theriault. Wait... let me re-phrase that... :-) Seriously, you *should* participate. It'll give you street cred, sex appeal and minty-fresh breath. http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2701 - Release Date: 02/20/10 23:34:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame I work for a wide range of clients, including ad agencies with big-dollar clients as well as numerous national and local newspapers and magazines. No one has ever requested a file larger than 30 megabytes. I frequently provide 41 megabyte files, which is the size of a k7 RAW file converted without interpolation. Some clients have asked that I downsize them a bit before turning them over. I suspect that this sort of thing may prove itself to be transient, and as 135 cameras with very high pixel counts start to become the norm, the clients will start, more and more, to ask for larger files on the theory that more must be beter. Of course, anyone can take a 6mp file and blow it up to 40mb, so the entire file size thing as measured by the amount of space it takes up on a hard drive is pretty meaningless anyway. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: tamron 18-250
Tue Feb 23 08:46:48 CST 2010 eckinator wrote: 2010/2/23 mike wilson m.9.wilson at ntlworld.com: Vodka no ice, please. glad you had the good sense for no ice - by the time it gets there it would be thawed and dry ice ruins the taste of anything... plus I doubt you'd get on the EuroStar or a ferry for a shot ]=P However, you're welcome to stop by for one if/when ever you're in the area. Just make sure you specify Polish / Swedish / Russian / Burmese / wherever in advance as I am not alway well stocked. I drink some of it, too, you know =Q/D Cheers Ecke There is a joke describing what distinguishes a person belonging to Russian intelligentsia (aka elite intellectual - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligentsia ): an open bottle of vodka sitting in the freezer since the visit of a less intellectual friend. Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: They pay the money. They can have me dressed in leopard skin if they want. I think something pink and frilly would be better. Perhaps Dave Savage can lend you something. :-) Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Drive-by Smiles
2010/2/23 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
As I was shooting Vanessa in Kensington Market (see yesterday's PESO)
I stepped back into the street so I could get her and her bike in a
few shots. A car approaches (the streets in Kensington are very
narrow and usually over-run by pedestrians, so cars have to take it
slow and usually are pretty cool about giving pedestrians the right of
way. I saw this car coming, so I stepped back, still pointing my
camera at Vanessa. This guy stops in front of me with this big smile
on his face and wouldn't continue until I took his pic. So I did. I
liked the result ('cause I'm a sucker for smiles):
sweet! made me laugh long and hard. that you for that moment, frank!!
if one of my coworkers ever smiled he'd prob'ly look like that but I
doubt he ever will...
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Re: tamron 18-250
eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/2/23 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: Vodka no ice, please. glad you had the good sense for no ice - by the time it gets there it would be thawed and dry ice ruins the taste of anything... plus I doubt you'd get on the EuroStar or a ferry for a shot ]=P However, you're welcome to stop by for one if/when ever you're in the area. Just make sure you specify Polish / Swedish / Russian / Burmese / wherever in advance as I am not alway well stocked. I drink some of it, too, you know =Q/D If I'd known you were a connoiseur I would have specified Zubrowka. Because I'm a tourist. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Feb 23, 2010, at 9:47 AM, mike wilson wrote: William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame On past evidence, professional photographers will buy and use precisely what their customers tell them to. I'm calling bullshit on this one Mike, though I did have a bride's father once express mild disdain because I was shooting his daughter's wedding with a Pentax rather than a Nikon or Canon. This was very much the exception. As, I think, is wedding photography very much the exception because the photographer meets joe public instead of some corporate geek. Professional photographers will shoot what they need to shoot to create images that are competitive within their marketplace. If that morphs into 135 format, then that will become the defacto professional format and anyone who doesn't make a 135 camera will be an also ran. Precisely my point. If your customer, the big corporation that you make most of your living from, demands 25-30Mp files you have no choice but to go to a larger sensor. I seem to remember this (demanding of larger files that were able to be supplied with existing equipment) happening to at least one person here in the past. I work for a wide range of clients, including ad agencies with big-dollar clients as well as numerous national and local newspapers and magazines. No one has ever requested a file larger than 30 megabytes. I frequently provide 41 megabyte files, which is the size of a k7 RAW file converted without interpolation. Some clients have asked that I downsize them a bit before turning them over. So how big would a 25-30Mp image file become? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: tamron 18-250
2010/2/23 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: If I'd known you were a connoiseur I would have specified Zubrowka. Because I'm a tourist. Happen to like that one too =) Had a Russian style restaurant/bar 13/14 years ago with 30-some vodkas on the menue. some with made up changes to the names. Starka e.g. was given the subtitle of KGB Special Reserve amd so on. I still like the occasional Sto Gramm =) Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: tamron 18-250
2010/2/23 Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org: There is a joke describing what distinguishes a person belonging to Russian intelligentsia (aka elite intellectual - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligentsia ): an open bottle of vodka sitting in the freezer since the visit of a less intellectual friend. Hehe... nice one =) Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
Cotty wrote: They can have me dressed in leopard skin if they want. MARK! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 23/2/10, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: As, I think, is wedding photography very much the exception because the photographer meets joe public instead of some corporate geek. Hmm - in a way the corporate geeks are worse - not only do they want value for money, they want it to look like they are getting all the icing on the cake. I am shooting web video productions and I could easily do it on my small solid-state HD camera. Instead, out comes the big SD camera and all the lights - to them it looks like the real deal. When they bring around *their* clients to show off, they gloat and nod approvingly. With the small camera they look shocked. I get the message, and that's clear. They pay the money. They can have me dressed in leopard skin if they want. I would imagine that most corporate stills clients are just as ignorant. I didn't say _any_ of it was good. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: tamron 18-250
Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Tue Feb 23 08:46:48 CST 2010 eckinator wrote: 2010/2/23 mike wilson m.9.wilson at ntlworld.com: Vodka no ice, please. glad you had the good sense for no ice - by the time it gets there it would be thawed and dry ice ruins the taste of anything... plus I doubt you'd get on the EuroStar or a ferry for a shot ]=P However, you're welcome to stop by for one if/when ever you're in the area. Just make sure you specify Polish / Swedish / Russian / Burmese / wherever in advance as I am not alway well stocked. I drink some of it, too, you know =Q/D Cheers Ecke There is a joke describing what distinguishes a person belonging to Russian intelligentsia (aka elite intellectual - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligentsia ): an open bottle of vodka sitting in the freezer since the visit of a less intellectual friend. A friend and I were once subjected to the we've opened it, so we have to finish it routine. Luckily, our hosts were more sozzled than us to start with and were oblivious to the fact that their house plants were getting a damned good watering with high quality ethanol. 1.5 litres later, we left an extremely favourable impression of the alcohol-handling capabilities of the average Englishman. Drinking under the table was, for once, completely accurate. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: YANPJ
Could be fun indeed. On 20/02/2010 09:08, frank theriault wrote: Yet Another Non-Paying Job. Still, it should be fun. The local bike mag in which I had a photo published last summer is getting their spring issue together (it published quarterly). One article is a sort of person-in-the-street interview, a question of the month. Today I wander about with a very attractive young lady as she asks cyclists the question and records their answer. Then I snap their photo and it should all be in the upcoming issue. When they asked me if I wanted to do it, it sounded like they thought it would be boring, and I said, Are you kidding? This is what I do weekends anyway - take pictures of people and their bikes on the streets of Toronto. Sounds like fun! And so I'm off... cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - NASA WISE Spacecraft Images
On 22/02/2010 19:26, Tom C wrote: If you follow this link there's some great images, mostly in non-visible wavelengths. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/100217123426.htm This one, if the larger image link is clicked makes a stellar desktop wallpaper. http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/WISE/multimedia/pia12832-c.html It suddenly occurred to me that each bright pixel on that last picture could be a star similar to our Sun... Getting sentimental, I suppose... BOris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
1TB drives on computers will become the minimum. Scanned .TIFS from 35mm film with the Minolta Dimage regularly run between 25 and 70MB. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:08 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame I work for a wide range of clients, including ad agencies with big-dollar clients as well as numerous national and local newspapers and magazines. No one has ever requested a file larger than 30 megabytes. I frequently provide 41 megabyte files, which is the size of a k7 RAW file converted without interpolation. Some clients have asked that I downsize them a bit before turning them over. I suspect that this sort of thing may prove itself to be transient, and as 135 cameras with very high pixel counts start to become the norm, the clients will start, more and more, to ask for larger files on the theory that more must be beter. Of course, anyone can take a 6mp file and blow it up to 40mb, so the entire file size thing as measured by the amount of space it takes up on a hard drive is pretty meaningless anyway. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Expressing that I'm not trying argue with you for the sake of it... :-) MARK!! LOL The 4/3 format has some intriguing aspects, but for me, given a limited monetary resource, I'd prefer to go with basic higher resolution/pixel count. The size factor of some of the new 4/3 offerings is cool as well as the ability to use Leica lenses. Plus some of the bodies are just cool looking. Resolution/pixel count, imo, once past 5-6 Mpixel, are of greatly diminished real value for the range of photography I do. But to continue in this train of thought is to once again delve into the subject of my favorite saying: Equipment often gets in the way of Photography. I'd rather do Photography and leave the bits and bytes argumentation to the camera enthusiasts. I know the equipment I have is working well and capable for the uses I put it to ... That's what's important to me. I'll stick to making photographs and bow out of this discussion. :-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Colorado National Monument
That's very nice.
On 2/22/2010 10:03 AM, Tom C wrote:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10715804size=lg
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Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
On Feb 23, 2010, at 9:54 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame As, I think, is wedding photography very much the exception because the photographer meets joe public instead of some corporate geek. Wedding photography is very much the norm. There are a lot more wedding photographers that corporate boys out there. Corporate photography is (and I'm sure Paul will correct me if he can) is moving more and more towards stock photography. You're right. I think stock has become the norm to a great extent, and it's used when possible for all but mega accounts. Of course some products have to be shot. But I've never met an ad agency art director who worried about what kind of equipment the photographer uses. They only look at the book. There was a brief spurt of interest in going back to film as a different look, but that didn't last long. The ADs soon figured out that when printed on an offset presst, it wasn't a different look. The previous post suggested some jobs require 35 to 40 Mp size. I've never encountered that. Some major pros do shoot medium format digital, so their files are that large, but it's a choice rather than a specification. Most often, the file will be downsized before delivery to the client. The main advantage of a truly large image is the detail level it gives you when retouching in PhotoShop. I've done some work for major agencies with big clients and lots of work for major publications. The size spec is usually about 25 megabytes. Most don't want anything larger. I usually send a 41 meg file if size isn't specified. That's a K7 RAW file converted without interpolation. A few pubs have requested that I downsize a bit before sending them out. Paul William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Drive-by Smiles
Artificial or otherwise.(?) Playful motorist. ;)
Jack
--- On Tue, 2/23/10, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
Subject: PESO - Drive-by Smiles
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 5:39 AM
As I was shooting Vanessa in
Kensington Market (see yesterday's PESO)
I stepped back into the street so I could get her and her
bike in a
few shots. A car approaches (the streets in
Kensington are very
narrow and usually over-run by pedestrians, so cars have to
take it
slow and usually are pretty cool about giving pedestrians
the right of
way. I saw this car coming, so I stepped back, still
pointing my
camera at Vanessa. This guy stops in front of me with
this big smile
on his face and wouldn't continue until I took his
pic. So I did. I
liked the result ('cause I'm a sucker for smiles):
http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/02/drive-by-smiles.html
Hope you like. Comments always welcome.
cheers,
frank
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Re: OT - my stuff on ebay - please look, pretty please. WITH THE LINK
Hi eck I'm just up... and will be mailing other stuff today.. I'll get right back to you off list on price including shipping gotta look it up - so if it suits I'll mail it right away ann eckinator wrote: thanks ann, also can you give me a price incl shipment to germany for the image drive please? offlist if you like cheers tia ecke 2010/2/22 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: LOl I copied but didnt paste - duh http://shop.ebay.com/annsan/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg=50 Evan Hanson wrote: Ann do you have a link? Evan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - concert photography
Thanks, Cotty! I just got it from the library yesterday (it came through interlibrary loan from Arizona - Interlibrary loans rule!). There are many fascinating shots in that book! Those of famous and not so famous musicians. My non-photography friends were also fascinated to see this book. I envied the photographer for those shots, as well as for how many concerts he got to go to. The author gives brief suggestions about some important features that are important for photographing musical performers/performances. Those suggestions are illustrated by great photos. While some of those hints were obvious to me (I've been using them intuitively), it was nice to see some others formulated and illustrated with examples. It's a short enjoyable reading (you can read it all probably in an hour), but it makes a great coffee table book. Since I don't usually collect that type of books, I enjoyed borrowing it from the library. But it's a good gift - I would prefer it over many other coffee table books. HTH, Igor Sat Feb 13 17:17:28 CST 2010 Cotty wrote: Just doing some research and stumbled across this book about concert photography, I know some of you enjoy it but ask occasionally about lighting etc HTH http://www.rockynook.com/books/127.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Drive-by Smiles
Story and pic are great! Nice one, Frank.
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Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 5:39:00 AM, you wrote:
ft As I was shooting Vanessa in Kensington Market (see yesterday's PESO)
ft I stepped back into the street so I could get her and her bike in a
ft few shots. A car approaches (the streets in Kensington are very
ft narrow and usually over-run by pedestrians, so cars have to take it
ft slow and usually are pretty cool about giving pedestrians the right of
ft way. I saw this car coming, so I stepped back, still pointing my
ft camera at Vanessa. This guy stops in front of me with this big smile
ft on his face and wouldn't continue until I took his pic. So I did. I
ft liked the result ('cause I'm a sucker for smiles):
ft http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/02/drive-by-smiles.html
ft Hope you like. Comments always welcome.
ft cheers,
ft frank
ft --
ft Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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PUG Submission requirements
Where can I find the submission requirements for the PUG? The last time I submitted an image, it was rejected as too large, and I didn't know whether that was a problem with the dimensions of the image, in pixels, of the size of the file, in bytes, or both. As a result, I probably compressed it a bit to much. I thought I knew where to find the size requirements, but when I looked for them, I was unsuccessful. Thanks, Dan Matyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - my stuff on ebay - please look, pretty please. WITH THE LINK
thanks ann and no hurry please, finish your OJ / coffee / tea / vodka / reefer first ]=) 2010/2/23 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: Hi eck I'm just up... and will be mailing other stuff today.. I'll get right back to you off list on price including shipping gotta look it up - so if it suits I'll mail it right away ann eckinator wrote: thanks ann, also can you give me a price incl shipment to germany for the image drive please? offlist if you like cheers tia ecke 2010/2/22 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com: LOl I copied but didnt paste - duh http://shop.ebay.com/annsan/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg=50 Evan Hanson wrote: Ann do you have a link? Evan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On FF but without intent to start a flame
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 08:53:51AM -0500, Boris Liberman wrote: John, would you then not choose a Pentax camera a-la Nikon D3s or D700 with relatively few but very high quality full frame pixels? Boris Let's assume, for a moment, I'm a Nikon (or Canon) shooter. I certainly wouldn't buy a D3 - it doesn't tempt me in the slightest. I'm not sure about the D700 - I haven't done a feature-for-feature comparison to the D300 to evaluate the cost vs. capabilities. I did look at the Canon bodies when the original 5D came out, and felt that for me personally not even that was worthwhile (let alone the 1Ds). I'm not saying that everybody has the same metrics. But I'd rather buy an extra lens than spend the additional money on a body with a larger sensor. Come to that a K7 and a K-x still cost less than a D700, and give me the extra versatility of a second body ready to shoot at all times. The K-x won't do as well as the D700 in low light, but that's not the highest item on my list of priorities. I don't need anything wider than 16mm very often, either (in fact for most of my film days I didn't own anything wider than the comparable 28mm). As others have pointed out, Pentax's biggest failing for me is the AF system - something that a larger sensor won't help. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Re: PUG Submission requirements
pug.komkon.org. Click on Submission Information. http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Tue, 2/23/10, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: PUG Submission requirements To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 12:20 PM Where can I find the submission requirements for the PUG? The last time I submitted an image, it was rejected as too large, and I didn't know whether that was a problem with the dimensions of the image, in pixels, of the size of the file, in bytes, or both. As a result, I probably compressed it a bit to much. I thought I knew where to find the size requirements, but when I looked for them, I was unsuccessful. Thanks, Dan Matyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Good News from Montreal
Thanks everyone for your concern. Thankfully, it wasn't my dogs, though I was in Montreal this weekend competing with them. It was the van belonging to a friend of mine who was returning from a flyball tournament also in Montreal with her and three other team-mates dogs. They had stopped at a restaurant and when Claire came out, her van had gone and the dogs along with it. We'd always joked that no-one would ever want to steal our van with 4 or 5 dogs in it and yet that's just what did happen on Sunday. It's not like the thief couldn't have realised they were in there when he made off with the van. They were 2 border collies, a cattle dog and a jack russell for heavens sake. Do you think they wouldn't have barked at a stranger! Thankfully it had a good outcome and it appears the thief had half a conscience. The dogs could have just been turfed out at the side of the road, but they were found tied up in a park, the SPCA called and the owners alerted. They were all reunited yesterday. No sign of the van and there probably never will be. As anyone who has ever had a vehicle stolen knows, it's a major inconvenience, but at least the dogs were safe. Wendy On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:20 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Wendy reports that the dogs have been found. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Wendy Beard Carp, Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
