Re: Returning defective goods : was RE: Leica M9
On 5/23/2010 1:57 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: No corporation that consistently cheats it's customers will survive. To do that you need a gun and the unrestricted will to use it. Otherwise customers will flee to another haven. Free markets are free, and the worst offenses happen in the markets that are most controlled. Peter, I can give you a number of counter examples in my country. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: still VeryOT: helmets...
HERE, HERE!!! Well stated Bob. The doctors/pharmaceutical companies (is there a difference?) just about killed my wife last year, sending her into liver failure. What was their recommended solution to the problem? Check into the hospital and we'll treat symptom A, but the side affect of the treatment is it will overtax your liver. WTH? Nothing doing!!! Luckily some friends directed us to some doctors (accredited and such) practicing alternative medicine. My wife now drives about 400 miles RT one day every week for treatment and is on a gradual upwards trend, (taken a year so far - at our own expense) without the debilitating, immune system suppressing chemo drugs that mainstream medicine recommends. She was diagnosed with RA (if we're totally sure about that is another matter). However, she is no worse, and slightly better with the RA now. Much of what the alternative medicine doctors tell her is documented in medical journals. When she does see the mainstream medical doctor who is an RA specialist (because insurance pays for blood tests), she asks about alternative treatements, etc., even hinting at some. Nope, no other treatment except the mainstream view. He is however puzzled about why she can be totally off the pharamaceuticals and her blood tests look no worse, and actually better than before. Guess what? Inependent research has shown that all the mainstream, immune system suppressiing drugs will eventually stop working or cause a person to reach the state my wife did. It's just a matter of time. So I have just one thing to say to mainstream modern medicine. UFF DAH! If a medical practicioner is not open to all possibilties and treatments, and does not recognize that a multitude of patients respond differently to varying therapies, then they're not worth the white lab coat they're wearing. Tom C. On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Perhaps you and the physicians from the British Medical Association, who wish to make it compulsory to wear a helmet while cycling in Britain, should make the effort to look for counter-arguments to your own. The risks associated with wearing a cycle helmet are well established. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spring Snow
Other times in the past 10 years it's been in the 80's or higher by now. Tom C. On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I moved here to escape where you describe! We basically get four equal seasons, but a month or two either side of winter can have some occasional wintery days. Tried to send addtional photos but satellite internet blocked because of snow. Went to town. Internet at Starbucks not working either. Ended up getting about 7 inches of snow today, temp around 28F tonight, and forecast possible snow the next two days, with highs in the 50's and lows in the 30's. Tom C. On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Tom, you must live in one of those places where everyone holds the perennial hope that summer should fall on a weekend. Jack --- On Sat, 5/22/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Spring Snow To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 12:47 PM Started snowing about 45 min. ago 13:00 MDT. Now about 3/4 on ground and this scene would be twice as white if taken at this moment. Just sharing a snapshot., http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11037556size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
On 5/23/2010 1:01 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: I've never understood that type of policy, generally here it's your responsibility to decide before purchase if the item will suite your needs, it can only be returned if faulty after purchase, never just because you don't like it. You just couldn't run a business here with such open return policies and survive. Rob, just a small point here. You actually assume that when entering a shop, customer would have a fair chance to preview the product before they buy it. In quite many cases (at least here) you don't have such a luxury as a buyer. Add to the mix the rather aggressive sales person behavior trying to convince you that this specific product is what will make your life barely possible (without it you are as good as non-existent). Then, of course, you come home, open the box and reasonably soon discover that you made a mistake. What do you do next? Now, the re-stocking fee is fine. In fact, the only buyer protection we have in Israel is that the shop owner are obliged by law to post clear, big and easily noticeable sign that will describe in detail the return policies of their shop. That's at least logical. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO More bokeh
The solution is very simple. On 22 May 2010 23:52, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On May 22, 2010, at 1:40 PM, Toine wrote: Another shot with the Lensbaby: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/134-more-bokeh I really hate it when people post awesome photos with lenses that I don't have yet. Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Returns (was Re: Leica M9)
On 5/23/2010 6:22 AM, Sandy Harris wrote: I once talked to someone who had been a technician at Acoustic Research, back when AR speakers carried a lifetime warranty. He said they got one or two a year that were burned out in a recognisable way, what you get if you run 110 volt AC into the speaker inputs. They replaced them. Sandy, once upon a time (seems now like 15 years ago) I bought a pair of Sennheiser Porta Pro's that at the time came with the life time warranty. I used it for several years and then one day I broke the plastic so that one of the ear pieces came apart from the frame. I tried to glue it in place, but plastic was such that no glue that I had helped. Having forgotten about the lifetime warranty I've put them on some shelf and forgotten about them for couple of years. One day I recalled that I had a lifetime warranty. At the time their service center was a small, really small, shop in Tel Aviv to which I came. I was willing and ready to pay but I liked the sound of these earphones so I thought I'd give it a try. The guy took them in and came out with the brand new pair. I asked if I still get my warranty and his reply was - sure thing!. A happy customer left the shop. I proceeded recommending the company to my friends and using my earphones. Later on I bought some more Sennheiser products, naturally. One day, few more years later, one of the wires came apart from the ear piece. Bummer. I went to look for their customer service. None existed at the time. Another big company (Samsung or Sansui or whatever) was giving the service. I came in to their local service center. Big, bumming with people. They did not hide their look down at me but they got the earphones fixed for me and free of charge. This time, however, they gave me a piece of paper that indicated that this fix would have a limited in time warranty, something like half a year. The next time the earphones broke I had to throw them to garbage. If I were to look for new earphones, I would surely start with Sennheiser - they have really good sound (to my taste) and I kind of have a fond memories of my first Porta Pro's. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
On 23/05/2010, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, just a small point here. You actually assume that when entering a shop, customer would have a fair chance to preview the product before they buy it. In quite many cases (at least here) you don't have such a luxury as a buyer. Add to the mix the rather aggressive sales person behavior trying to convince you that this specific product is what will make your life barely possible (without it you are as good as non-existent). Then, of course, you come home, open the box and reasonably soon discover that you made a mistake. What do you do next? Now, the re-stocking fee is fine. In fact, the only buyer protection we have in Israel is that the shop owner are obliged by law to post clear, big and easily noticeable sign that will describe in detail the return policies of their shop. That's at least logical. The retailers obligations are set by law and effectively the onus of suitability lies with the purchaser, only if the product does not provide the functions advertised or if it fails or is DOA/broken could the reseller be forced to accept a return. If you want to test an item in the shop you have to search out a retailer that provides demo display items. My most favoured bricks and mortar/mail order photo reseller has stock on shelves for display but generally does not allow batteries to be loaded in the cameras, ie all you get to do is feel. I guess that's why it's so important to have a set of review sites that can be trusted to adequately compare and report on gear such as cameras. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stupid Windows Question
On 23 May 2010 15:07, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: I can't say that I have had any problems with support from Microsoft with OEM versions in the years I've been running with them (at least 7), so I could not be sure that it would be an issue for Bill. My experience is the same, Microsoft has never shut me out of their update process even though every computer I've had in the house has run OEM versions of WIndows. In fact they've all had Windows Update installed and running from the get-go. What you also find in OEM versions is a manufacturer's update process which attends to all the OEM specific stuff that out-of-the-box Windows doesn't include. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
On 5/23/2010 10:48 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: The retailers obligations are set by law and effectively the onus of suitability lies with the purchaser, only if the product does not provide the functions advertised or if it fails or is DOA/broken could the reseller be forced to accept a return. If you want to test an item in the shop you have to search out a retailer that provides demo display items. My most favoured bricks and mortar/mail order photo reseller has stock on shelves for display but generally does not allow batteries to be loaded in the cameras, ie all you get to do is feel. I guess that's why it's so important to have a set of review sites that can be trusted to adequately compare and report on gear such as cameras. This is not how it is in Israel. But even if it were. Consider this. Presently we're dealing with the case of rather unscrupulous buyer. And what you say would protect a decent seller from such a buyer. But, OTOH, what you say effectively provides an opening for unscrupulous seller to convince a buyer to buy something, and once the box is open - voila, the pure profit is made and buyer is left with an item that they might not even need. When faced with request from a buyer to return the mis-sold item, the buyer would parry with you're a grown up person, you should have listened better; it is too late now. I am thinking that the real solution has to take into account interests of both parties and that with the slight (notice, just slight) bias towards the consumer. It is because, in my view, the seller has more power and more accented interest to gain profit whereas buyer may be simply looking for something reasonably good and reasonably cheap. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
On 23/05/2010, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: When faced with request from a buyer to return the mis-sold item, the buyer would parry with you're a grown up person, you should have listened better; it is too late now. Here some types of contracts have an integrated cooling off period but generally in retail shops the buyer makes the final decision to part with their cash or not. Can't get more basic really, if I stuff up it's off to eBay the bad purchase goes. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
On 5/23/2010 11:10 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: Here some types of contracts have an integrated cooling off period but generally in retail shops the buyer makes the final decision to part with their cash or not. Can't get more basic really, if I stuff up it's off to eBay the bad purchase goes. Evidently your commercial eco-system is rather different than that of mine. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 first thoughts
Well, yes, K10D is whacky in shutter sound and technologically older than K-7. But Galia produces excellent pictures with it and some simple lenses such as DA 21, FA 50/1.4 or FA 100/3.5 macro. I am likely to pass on K7x or whatever else that comes out of the door this year. It is because I don't shoot as much as say Paul Stenquist does. If K10D expires, then of course it will be another matter. But then I am likely to buy K-x for Galia rather than to upgrade K-7 unless the new camera will have something to really tempt me. And no, low light performance is not one of these things. Also, the idea of Panasonic GF-1 and 20/1.7 pancake lens is always on the back of my mind... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
2010/5/23 Tom C caka...@gmail.com: Do they have the right to know the full story? If a mfr. were to make, and a retailer to sell, a shoddy product, do they let me in on it? Or do they hope people buy it and are then stuck with it, and too busy or too chicken shit to raise a stink? And even then they'll hide behind all the legalese. That, in the end is why I have no qualms of conscience about this. A lie was not told when returning the item. The exchange was made, no question asked. I can guarantee you that there's plenty of people on this list who would willing partake in actions on a regular basis, that my conscience would prohibit me from doing. So why doesn't everyone get off their high horse about it? I for one am not on one, I just happen to think two wrongs don't make a right. Three lefts do but I doubt that will get anyone a new camera... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bird watcher Maritimtim
2010/5/23 Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com: For some odd reason Christine said something about my birthday. I think she thought I just had it. Mea culpa, Tim. :-) Expect something to abruptly appear in your (snail)mailbox on Tuesday. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What a Weekend!
Thanks, Christine. That was a great way to recollect my fresh memories. But I am thinking that I swore in English really, and that I used the f-word... How otherwise you would have understood that I swore? ;-) Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Birding with the 18-250
Larry ;-), you're confusing things. It is them who got close enough to you, not you to them... On 5/21/2010 9:28 AM, Larry Colen wrote: Though occasionally you can even get in close enough with the 16-50 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4626341078/sizes/o/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Stupid Windows Question
I run Linux, consider it hugely superior to Windows for almost everything, and it is free. However, one place where it seems to be weak is photo processing. Linux seems to be a bit short on out-of-the-box support for some drivers too. I've been considering converting this machine (a Dell Precision M50 running XP Pro) to run Linux, but each time I've tried it from a live CD it has not been able to connect to my router/wap. I can't be arsed faffing around getting a driver to work, so I'm sticking with XP to turn this box into a file and print server with the rest of the machines. [...] The difference you may need to watch for is Home vs Pro vs Server version. Often PCs. especially laptops, come with the cheaper Home version. Fine for some purposes, but if you want to use it on a network with network log in, say at the office, then you find that the Home version does not handle network authentication; you need to upgrade to the Professional version to do that. As far as I can tell, with Home your network must consist only of Win 7 boxes and nothing else. The machine that was delivered on Friday, and another I'm due to receive on Monday, are running Win 7 Pro. I'm not at all whelmed by the networking capability. Although I can get Win 7 to see the Precision M50, after a lot of mucking about, and even managed to map the hard drive and copy some files, it very quickly seems to lose sight of it. I haven't fathomed that out yet. But W7 seems to want to network only with other Win 7 boxes. If it can't network efficiently and easily with XP Pro, God knows what it must be like with non-MS OSes. I'm having trouble getting it to see my NAS drive, which runs Linux. The drive shows up as a media server on the network, and sometimes even shows up as a file server on the network, but so far I haven't been able to connect to it and use any of the files. Then if you want to use network logins on your own network, you need at least one machine running the Server version. Pro can use network authentication, but only Server can provide it to other machines. One of the tricks using the Pro version seems to be to set the network up as a workgroup, not a homegroup, and not require network logins. This should be safe for me because only one other person uses my network, and she hasn't a clue about computers. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: still VeryOT: helmets...
This woman's got it wrong then - she's wearing one of those on her head: http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/web/MultimediaFiles/20080724_NEWPORT_HOLDI NG_CAMP_27.JPG Does not compute. Helmet don't protect your nuts. You need one of these. http://www.nuttybuddy.com/ From: Bertil Holmberg I just purchesed a Nutcase helmet, the most fun ones that you can get - I think. http://www.nutcasehelmets.com/Pages/index.aspx I had to pay double the US price at http://www.cykelhjelm.com/ but my head and my mind is worth more than that. Now I just have to get a pink K-x to match it ;-) Best regards, Bertil 22 maj 2010 kl. 10:03 skrev pdml-requ...@pdml.net: Helmets make sense. Yes, we grew up without them, but not all of us grew up. A friend of mine died at 16 when he bailed off his scooter to avoid a collision and hit his head on a parked car. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Birding with the 18-250
2010/5/22 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: Thanks, Jack and Ecke. The 18-250 was at 250. We had gotten a stuffed churro on the pier, which really wasn't very good. I was sitting on the ground, holding little bits of it in one hand, shooting with the other. At least until one of the gulls saw that what was left was under my leg and jumped in and took all that was left. That is what they do. I was eating some rather large prawns in garlic sauce once at a small fishing harbour when a seagull landed on my arm and left no doubts it was claiming the remainder for itself... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Birding with the 18-250
The 18-250 was at 250. We had gotten a stuffed churro on the pier, which really wasn't very good. I was sitting on the ground, holding little bits of it in one hand, shooting with the other. At least until one of the gulls saw that what was left was under my leg and jumped in and took all that was left. That is what they do. I was eating some rather large prawns in garlic sauce once at a small fishing harbour when a seagull landed on my arm and left no doubts it was claiming the remainder for itself... I had a similar problem with my breaksfast and a troupe of colobus monkeys in Ethiopia once. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely, not
On May 23, 2010, at 3:30 AM, William Robb wrote: There is no justification for refusing to share the road, but that is a two way street, so to speak. A cyclist who is operating his vehicle in such a way as to be a danger to others deserves some consequences. A danger to others? Who exactly would that be? For myself, if I have to make the choice of going up on a sidewalk or crashing into a building to avoid an adult cyclist who is being an ass, I'll take the path that does the least damage to my vehicle and puts someone other than me clearly at fault. And you may end up in all sorts of shit if they find out you deliberately chose that course of action. Damaging some property isn't in the same league as maiming or killing someone. I can understand if your choice is between running down one person or a whole family though. I do cut young children a lot of slack, but about the time they hit puberty I figure they should be showing some sense. If that means playing Whack-A-Mole with an idiot who wants to be a fatality, then I'm not going to argue with the dork. If I run into a parked car to avoid a cyclist, I'm the one who has run into a parked car, and I'll also be the one who get's nicked for doing it, since the cyclist is unlikely to wait around to admit fault. It's easier on my insurance that way. You'd kill someone to avoid a bit of hassle? What the fuck kind of misguided ethics do you live by? Would you then return your vehicle to the dealer for a refund? Our police are taking it pretty seriously though. A few weeks ago a cyclist ran a stop sign and got knocked over by a truck. The police made the effort to go to the hospital and ticket him for failing to stop, and I believe operating a vehicle without due care and attention. He obviously deserved it for being stupid... even though the ticket was probably the least of his worries. Down here the law is that if you could have stopped but chose not to, you bear responsibility. This applies regardless of how stupidly the person you hit was behaving. If you think about that for a few seconds you'll realise it makes sense in the context of road safety. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stupid Windows Question
On 23/05/2010, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: If it can't network efficiently and easily with XP Pro, God knows what it must be like with non-MS OSes. I'm having trouble getting it to see my NAS drive, which runs Linux. The drive shows up as a media server on the network, and sometimes even shows up as a file server on the network, but so far I haven't been able to connect to it and use any of the files. The Home versions can't be used effectively on a network domain, they are only suitable for workgroups. Secondly the later windows are more heavily Firewalled, however they connect back to XP machines without too much difficulty in my experience. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago
On 5/13/2010 4:19 AM, Miserere wrote: Summary of how I feel about Eggleston: If Stephen King were given a camera, he'd take the photographs Eggleston takes. Thanks. You did it for me... I mean put to words what I had in mind. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 first thoughts
Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: ...some simple lenses such as DA 21, FA 50/1.4 or FA 100/3.5 macro. ;-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago
On 5/13/2010 1:20 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Friendly correction: I said Southern Gothic and the grotesque. I think Flannery O'Connor would have liked Eggleston, and count me in as a fan of Eggleston. As I write this it's thundering raining like crazy here in Chicago--most appropriate for thoughts on the gothic. As Doug said, there's something quite menacing in Eggleston's work. I am thinking that it was me who used the word grotesque in real life during the exhibition visit ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 first thoughts
Ralf, but you won't argue that DA* 16-50/2.8 or Sigma EX 10-20/4-5.6 are more complex than DA 21 and FA 50/1.4 ;-), or will you? Boris On 5/23/2010 1:25 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote: ...some simple lenses such as DA 21, FA 50/1.4 or FA 100/3.5 macro. ;-) Ralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Peso The Stouffville Crew
Thanks Paul. Dave On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 2:16 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: A nice pic and a touching story. Paul On May 22, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Dave: Nice blog and photos. Sorry to hear about the bus run situation. That's a nice group shot of the bus folks. The semi-inflated balloon was a fun touch. I also like the snow golfing shots. Hope a new situation turns up for you soon. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net; Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 6:43 PM Subject: OT Peso The Stouffville Crew Hi gang. http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ D200, SB 800 fill, Slick 700 pro tripod, company bus Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT Peso Danielle and Pippin in BW
Does this work of ya all http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/4631833810/ Click back and the colour version is available. D200 SB800 for fill, NEF file converted in LR2. The Markham fair has a Human portrait class, and this is on my short list. Comments welcome Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spring Snow
Now thats my kind of weather. Good shot Tom Dave On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Started snowing about 45 min. ago 13:00 MDT. Now about 3/4 on ground and this scene would be twice as white if taken at this moment. Just sharing a snapshot., http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11037556size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: geso My Chicago best of set.
Ve4ry good gesoo there Larry. I like the dance shot 5602. I really like what every one has done with their shots at the silver ball, that i assume is out side the gallery.?? Dave On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I finally finished going through my shots from my Chicago trip and winnowed them down to 48. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623991190309/ or alternatively http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623991190309/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 first thoughts
Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Ralf, but you won't argue that DA* 16-50/2.8 or Sigma EX 10-20/4-5.6 are more complex than DA 21 and FA 50/1.4 ;-), or will you? On the mere base of their parts count, you're quite right. Just as a 5-500 mm hypermegasuperzoom is more complex than a Zeiss Hologon. ;-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Peso Danielle and Pippin in BW
Or would it look better as the coloured version, a square crop http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/4611584173/ Dave On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:44 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Does this work of ya all http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/4631833810/ Click back and the colour version is available. D200 SB800 for fill, NEF file converted in LR2. The Markham fair has a Human portrait class, and this is on my short list. Comments welcome Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Poem Every So Often
Tom, The poem matches the beauty of your recent pictures. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Standing alone on a mountain Snow falling Tranquility Looking up Myriads of snowflakes Falling out of the soft gray void Glimpse eternity For seconds Beautiful One brushes my face It reminds me of you - Three hours ago. No way to photograph it. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Spring Snow
You live at what altitude, Tom? California is experiencing a record setting drawn out late winter period. We who dread the inevitable scorching summer days no doubt fast approaching, treasure this respite. Sierra residents, however, must be past depressed and disgusted with this persistent misery. Jack --- On Sat, 5/22/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO - Spring Snow To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 10:09 PM Actually I moved here to escape where you describe! We basically get four equal seasons, but a month or two either side of winter can have some occasional wintery days. Tried to send addtional photos but satellite internet blocked because of snow. Went to town. Internet at Starbucks not working either. Ended up getting about 7 inches of snow today, temp around 28F tonight, and forecast possible snow the next two days, with highs in the 50's and lows in the 30's. Tom C. On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Tom, you must live in one of those places where everyone holds the perennial hope that summer should fall on a weekend. Jack --- On Sat, 5/22/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Spring Snow To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 12:47 PM Started snowing about 45 min. ago 13:00 MDT. Now about 3/4 on ground and this scene would be twice as white if taken at this moment. Just sharing a snapshot., http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11037556size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Poem Every So Often
Thanks for this moment. Jack --- On Sat, 5/22/10, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Poem Every So Often To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 10:04 PM Standing alone on a mountain Snow falling Tranquility Looking up Myriads of snowflakes Falling out of the soft gray void Glimpse eternity For seconds Beautiful One brushes my face It reminds me of you - Three hours ago. No way to photograph it. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Night photography of NY and LV
Splendid. I've a co-worker that is said to be doing time lapse shots from his apartment 60 stories or so above Tel Aviv. I should very much like to try such a thing myself one day... Boris On 5/21/2010 6:27 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: I came across these interesting images: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/03/nyc_and_las_vegas_from_above_a.html Sorry if they had been posted here before. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Peso Danielle and Pippin in BW
Dave, I prefer the color version. She looks better in color, especially her hair. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:04 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Or would it look better as the coloured version, a square crop http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/4611584173/ Dave On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:44 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Does this work of ya all http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/4631833810/ Click back and the colour version is available. D200 SB800 for fill, NEF file converted in LR2. The Markham fair has a Human portrait class, and this is on my short list. Comments welcome Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: geso My Chicago best of set.
Dave, The Bean is about the size of a Semi Truck Trailor. Here's the Google Maps shot of it in the park. The little specks with shadows are people standing around it. Off to the left are those square umbrellas covering cafe tables. They are set-up on what becomes an ice rink in winter. Link: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=enq=millinium+parksll=41.882679,-87.623415sspn=0.000551,0.0012ie=UTF8radius=0.04split=1rq=1ev=zohq=millinium+parkhnear=ll=41.882695,-87.623545spn=0.000551,0.0012t=hz=20 Regards, Bob S. On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:52 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Ve4ry good gesoo there Larry. I like the dance shot 5602. I really like what every one has done with their shots at the silver ball, that i assume is out side the gallery.?? Dave On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I finally finished going through my shots from my Chicago trip and winnowed them down to 48. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623991190309/ or alternatively http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623991190309/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Augenblick photos
How did I know you guys would like that photo of Jay the girls? :-) Cotty, Annsan, and Doug - thanks for looking. And Mike Wilson, you are paying attention! Mark has the best explaination for Rick's photo portrait. I have to thank Larry Colen for the idea. I stole shamelessly, but should have chimped more. Shots of Stan and Christine were woefully under exposed trash. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: Cotty wrote: On 22/5/10, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: Can we do it again next year? :-) Funny, my wife said the same thing - she'd like to come along ;-) http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Augenblick# Great gallery Bob, the portraits are very good. Particularly the shot of Jay walking: http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Augenblick#5474183921914076962 an exquisite shot, really nice. I agree, although it should be titled, Some pretty girls on a bench and, oh, there's Jay and Jostein. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Chrome
Saw this beauty the other day: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/chrome.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Chrome
Beauty is right! Studebaker existed as an automobile company from 1902 (in a failed attempt at electric cars) 'til 1958 when it went under in a merge with Packard Corp). Seems to me that, prior to 1902, they produced horse drawn wagons and buggies. Not certain, however. Jack --- On Sun, 5/23/10, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Chrome To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 6:19 AM Saw this beauty the other day: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/chrome.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma OS available for Pentax! [Scanned]
2010/5/22 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com: On 22 May 2010 12:54, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: Ding ding ding! Care to elaborate? Hard to type with boxing gloves. :-) -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
On 22/5/10, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: I can guarantee you that there's plenty of people on this list who would willing partake in actions on a regular basis, that my conscience would prohibit me from doing. Shit - I'm on Youtube? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Chrome
On 23/5/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/chrome.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Put your trousers back on. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: YouTube stuttering
From: Anthony Farr On 23 May 2010 10:21, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: And then, I get home this evening and it's not doing it. Seems to be back to normal. ??? If your connection speed exceeds the demands of the video then there shouldn't be a problem. But sometimes the squeeze is at the server end because a particular video is being requested by more than the usual number of visitors. And sometimes I suspect (but haven't the tech knowledge to know for certain) that the Adobe Flash in your own computer is causing the slow running by hogging resources. After a restart, or even just a closure and reopening of the browser, things often return to normal. Definitely something on the server end. The odd stuttering stayed consistent for a week or more through numerous shut-downs restarts (I'm running only a laptop right now) and didn't affect flash video from other sources. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Dodge
On 22/5/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: Some of them are likely even correct. Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies ;) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago PESOs and GESOs
Boy, am I glad you posted these again, Christine... all of my mail from about May 13th and earlier is hiding somewhere on my c drive... so I'm replying to this to keep all the links... I still might add a couple more to my GESO but maybe not for a while -- it won't affect the link at all. xo, ann Christine Aguila wrote: .Hi Everyone: Here's the Chicago Collection so far. If I missed anyone's PESO or GESO, please don't be offended. Just add to the list. Sasha Sobol: http://flickriver.com/photos/sobol/tags/chicago/ Karin Mitchell: http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/GalleryNight/ PESO: http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/IMGP1260.jpg Tom Cakalic: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=967136 PESO: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11011691size=lg PESO: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11021659size=lg Ted Beilby: http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id15.html Ted - Art Institute http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id16.html Ted Chicago streets http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id18.html Ted Dinner gathering http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id17.html Ted Gardens http://www.beilbyvisualarts.com/id14.html Ted Opening night Cory Waters: PESO: http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/12119115_CrWVU#861434254_H9M9Q-A-LB Tim Bray: http://www.tbray.org/pdml/Chicago-May-2010/ http://www.tbray.org/pdml/PDML-Augenblick/ Chris MItchell: http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/ChicagoReflections/ http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDMLers/ Boris (Windows only, exec file): http://liberman-family.com/boris/chicago_2010/chicago_pdml.exe http://liberman-family.com/boris/chicago_2010/chicago_pdml.wmv Bill Robb: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/gesos/chicago/index.html Christine Aguila: http://www.caguila.com/caguila/pdmlchiphotowalk/index.html http://www.caguila.com/caguila/pdmlgroup/content/pdmlchiexhibit_23_large.html Doug Brewer: http://www.alphoto.com/images/chicago2010/ Cotty's video, flash version: http://www.seeingeye.tv/pages/chicago.html http://www.vimeo.com/11579683 for download: www.tinyurl.com/cottycamidisk Larry: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623939402789/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623920448635/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4608248172/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157624057206046/ http://red4est.com/augenblick/ Stan: One reflects a couple of walks in the Oak Park area: http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p584621166 A second has a few shots from the PDML Gallery opening: http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p552583829 Some shots of fellow PDMLers: http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p583082280 And a few shots of the Art Institute and surrounding areas: http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p987771025 Ann: http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Bus-Trip-to-Chicago-May-2010/12194964_YYtFD Jostein: http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=21page=1 Mark: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/chicago2010/index.html PESO: http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7da01856.htm Jay Taylor: http://www.jaytaylorphotography.com/Travel/Chicago-PDML-2010/12194534_MBhoP#868042130_je84c PESO: http://tiny.cc/ysnkf http://www.jaytaylorphotography.com/Architecture/1D-Mark-II-Images/Central-Camera-HDR/861292851_BAmYo-XL.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Poem Every So Often
Tom C wrote: Standing alone on a mountain Snow falling Tranquility Looking up Myriads of snowflakes Falling out of the soft gray void Glimpse eternity For seconds Beautiful One brushes my face It reminds me of you - Three hours ago. No way to photograph it. Tom C. In this case, our good fortune ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Chrome
I like the angle you chose to shot this Dave On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:19 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Saw this beauty the other day: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/chrome.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely, not
On 5/23/10, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote: You'd kill someone to avoid a bit of hassle? What the fuck kind of misguided ethics do you live by? Would you then return your vehicle to the dealer for a refund? David, Cut Bill a little slack would you. From what I read, he would at least tell the dealer how the vehicle was damaged. ;-) :-))) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Returns (was Re: Leica M9)
From: Tom C Interesting. I'm here sticking up for Christian, and I wasn't the guy that returned the camera. :-) But I understand the mindset. It's not about ripping someone off. If any one is doing that it's the mfrs., the vendors, and the retailers that have their hoards of i-dotting and t-crossing attorneys, trying to insure that their own interests are protected in every way possible. And often times any action a corporation wants to take is justified in the name of 'it's our policy'. I'm unsure what would have happened if it was told that a drink had been spilled on the camera. I can imagine one CS clerk saying, no deal it must be sent in for repair, and OTOH, another one saying don't worry about, we'll send it back, here's a new one. If a company, retailer or vendor has a reputation for great customer service, i.e., let's make the customer happy, I suspect they'll make more money though gross sales alone, than they lose, through the small % of customers that actually plan to rip them off. Mostly, it depends on the retailer's policy regarding returns. When I worked at XX the policy was to accept the return if it was within 90 days, the customer had the receipt and all the original contents were in the box. Sometimes the customer would have all the original contents - CD, manual, cords camera, but had discarded the internal cushioning. In that case we still took it back. Customers could get a refund or exchange for a new one. Theoretically, we could refuse a return if the customer had abused the product. Never happened while I was there. I had customers tell me we had the best return policy and the best service. I also had customers screaming at me, and telling me how much worse our policy was than our competitors because for whatever reason they didn't fit within the return policy and I wasn't allowed to accept the return. Whatever. The only thing that bothered me about it was knowing XX management would blame me for giving bad customer service if the customer complained to management. Didn't matter if you were following company policy, and risked being fired if you violated that policy, the customer was unhappy, therefore it was your fault. That was also company policy. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Peso Danielle and Pippin in BW
Yes, i'm afraid i agree with you Bob. I'll keep searching for a subject for the class Dave On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, I prefer the color version. She looks better in color, especially her hair. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:04 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Or would it look better as the coloured version, a square crop http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/4611584173/ Dave On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:44 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Does this work of ya all http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/4631833810/ Click back and the colour version is available. D200 SB800 for fill, NEF file converted in LR2. The Markham fair has a Human portrait class, and this is on my short list. Comments welcome Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Chrome
Cotty wrote: On 23/5/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/chrome.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Put your trousers back on. -- Cheers, Cotty Well that was a made you look comment! :-) Ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
From: Tom C Do they have the right to know the full story? If a mfr. were to make, and a retailer to sell, a shoddy product, do they let me in on it? Or do they hope people buy it and are then stuck with it, and too busy or too chicken shit to raise a stink? And even then they'll hide behind all the legalese. That, in the end is why I have no qualms of conscience about this. A lie was not told when returning the item. The exchange was made, no question asked. I can guarantee you that there's plenty of people on this list who would willing partake in actions on a regular basis, that my conscience would prohibit me from doing. So why doesn't everyone get off their high horse about it? Tom C. Let me add something else. This part of the discussion began about a return to Best Buy. My EXPERIENCE shopping Best Buy is they knowingly sell defective items and then refuse to honor their own published return policies when the customer attempts to return them. There's a reason I frequently advise contacting your state's Attorney General's office. It's also the reason I don't shop at Best Buy. So, if someone managed to get one over on Best Buy for a change, I say more power to 'em. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
- Original Message - From: eckinator Subject: Re: Leica M9 I for one am not on one, I just happen to think two wrongs don't make a right. But two Wrights can make an airplane. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely, not
- Original Message - From: David Mann Subject: Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely, not On May 23, 2010, at 3:30 AM, William Robb wrote: There is no justification for refusing to share the road, but that is a two way street, so to speak. A cyclist who is operating his vehicle in such a way as to be a danger to others deserves some consequences. A danger to others? Who exactly would that be? Anyone else on the road. Avoiding an idiot on a bike may well put an innocent pedestrian into the path of a vehicle, or may cause me to take out another cyclist. For myself, if I have to make the choice of going up on a sidewalk or crashing into a building to avoid an adult cyclist who is being an ass, I'll take the path that does the least damage to my vehicle and puts someone other than me clearly at fault. And you may end up in all sorts of shit if they find out you deliberately chose that course of action. Damaging some property isn't in the same league as maiming or killing someone. I can understand if your choice is between running down one person or a whole family though. I have a right to self preservation. Since motor vehicle collisions are unpredictable, smashing into a parked car at speed may well cause me injury. You put yourself in a situation where I have to choose between potentially hurting myself and definitely hurting you, and you are going to get hurt. If you don't like it, then obey the rules of the road. It's a pretty simple concept to follow. I'm not out there hunting bike riders, I'm just expecting them to drive their vehicles in a safe and sane manner and obey the rules. If they aren't going to do that, they are going to be someone's hood ornament eventually. I do cut young children a lot of slack, but about the time they hit puberty I figure they should be showing some sense. If that means playing Whack-A-Mole with an idiot who wants to be a fatality, then I'm not going to argue with the dork. If I run into a parked car to avoid a cyclist, I'm the one who has run into a parked car, and I'll also be the one who get's nicked for doing it, since the cyclist is unlikely to wait around to admit fault. It's easier on my insurance that way. You'd kill someone to avoid a bit of hassle? What the fuck kind of misguided ethics do you live by? Would you then return your vehicle to the dealer for a refund? No, I'd return my vehicle to the dealer to have the grill replaced. Our police are taking it pretty seriously though. A few weeks ago a cyclist ran a stop sign and got knocked over by a truck. The police made the effort to go to the hospital and ticket him for failing to stop, and I believe operating a vehicle without due care and attention. He obviously deserved it for being stupid... even though the ticket was probably the least of his worries. Down here the law is that if you could have stopped but chose not to, you bear responsibility. This applies regardless of how stupidly the person you hit was behaving. If you think about that for a few seconds you'll realise it makes sense in the context of road safety. If it's just a matter of stopping, then fine. If it's a matter of choosing what I am going to hit, I'll hit whatever is going to cause me the least harm. If that is a fool on a bicycle who is creating havoc on the street, well, he should have thought things through a little more carefully. Why should I take a head on with a bus because a moron cyclist ran a stop, failed to yield or swerved into my path? You want me to respect your right to the road, then you need to show me the same respect and operate your vehicle properly. At the end of the day, a bike colliding with a motor vehicle is going to hurt the cyclist more than the car driver, so it behoves the cyclist to obey the rules and not presume that he has carte blanche to pretend that he owns the road and everyone else can bloody well drive into the ditch. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Stupid Windows Question
If it can't network efficiently and easily with XP Pro, God knows what it must be like with non-MS OSes. I'm having trouble getting it to see my NAS drive, which runs Linux. The drive shows up as a media server on the network, and sometimes even shows up as a file server on the network, but so far I haven't been able to connect to it and use any of the files. The Home versions can't be used effectively on a network domain, they are only suitable for workgroups. Secondly the later windows are more heavily Firewalled, however they connect back to XP machines without too much difficulty in my experience. Well, I always switch the Windows firewall off on my machines - I have a hardware firewall in the router to keep stuff out of the network. What seems to have made things difficult is that Dell also put a software firewall on the new box. Switching that off seems to have done the trick to get the XP and Win 7 boxes aware of each other. To make the NAS device visible I had to downgrade the security on Win 7 slightly. How non-IT people ever manage baffles me. All I have to do now is get Lightroom on the Win 7 box to import pictures on the NAS device from a catalogue on the XP box... B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
From: Rob Studdert On 23/05/2010, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: When faced with request from a buyer to return the mis-sold item, the buyer would parry with you're a grown up person, you should have listened better; it is too late now. Here some types of contracts have an integrated cooling off period but generally in retail shops the buyer makes the final decision to part with their cash or not. Can't get more basic really, if I stuff up it's off to eBay the bad purchase goes. Most retailers have a return policy. The policy is intended to protect the retailer, but it does give the consumer some protection as well. In the case that started this discussion, the return was made in accordance with the retailer's published return policy. The only thing I found odd about the whole thing was knowing the name of the retailer, and based on my own experience with them, they hadn't tried to screw him on the return. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Returns (was Re: Leica M9)
- Original Message - From: John Sessoms Subject: Re: Returns (was Re: Leica M9) The only thing that bothered me about it was knowing XX management would blame me for giving bad customer service if the customer complained to management. Didn't matter if you were following company policy, and risked being fired if you violated that policy, the customer was unhappy, therefore it was your fault. That was also company policy. Any time I found myself in that sort of conflict, if the customer request was so egregious that I couldn't bring myself to go along with it, I'd escalate it to a manager and let them make the decision. I figure one of the things that management is paid for is to decide which situations fall outside of the policy guidelines that they want me to follow. I never got written up for it since I never strayed from policy. Sometimes the individual manager wasn't happy, since he had to make a hard decision rather than write up an associate, but again, they get paid extra to make hard decisions. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely, not
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely, not Cut Bill a little slack would you. From what I read, he would at least tell the dealer how the vehicle was damaged. ;-) :-))) And I'd be treating it as an insurance issue. I wouldn't try to pretend that my truck was delivered with someones brains embedded in the radiator. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Peso Danielle and Pippin in BW
Dave, How about some old, gnarly dude in BW? Maybe a self portrait? :-) Regards, Bob S. On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:29 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, i'm afraid i agree with you Bob. I'll keep searching for a subject for the class Dave On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, I prefer the color version. She looks better in color, especially her hair. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:04 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Or would it look better as the coloured version, a square crop http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/4611584173/ Dave On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:44 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Does this work of ya all http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/4631833810/ Click back and the colour version is available. D200 SB800 for fill, NEF file converted in LR2. The Markham fair has a Human portrait class, and this is on my short list. Comments welcome Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
- Original Message - From: John Sessoms Subject: Re: Leica M9 In the case that started this discussion, the return was made in accordance with the retailer's published return policy. Not quite. Their return policy definitely states that items that have been damaged through customer use or abuse do not qualify for return. The question seems to be does spilling a drink on a non waterproof camera consitute customer abuse. Answer that and you have answered if the return policy was followed. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT Peso Danielle and Pippin in BW
From: David J Brooks Does this work of ya all http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/4631833810/ Click back and the colour version is available. D200 SB800 for fill, NEF file converted in LR2. The Markham fair has a Human portrait class, and this is on my short list. Comments welcome The tighter crop of the color version works better for me. I'd increase the contrast and set the black point higher in the BW as well. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: geso My Chicago best of set.
On May 23, 2010, at 4:52 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Ve4ry good gesoo there Larry. Thanks David, and the others who commented. I like the dance shot 5602. That my have been my keeper of the week. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma OS available for Pentax! [Scanned]
On May 23, 2010, at 8:57, AlunFoto wrote: 2010/5/22 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com: On 22 May 2010 12:54, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: Ding ding ding! Care to elaborate? Hard to type with boxing gloves. :-) I should have added: we have a winnah! But by now I've forgotten the question! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stupid Windows Question
Not true...I'm running five boxes on my network. A Win 7/64 Home, a Vista home, two XP Home and one Server 2003 as only a file server. All of them do what I want them to do. The only problem I've had was when my daughter-in-law go sucked into going to the Antivirus Soft web page on one of the XP machines. Talk about a nasty piece of spyware. It wouldn't let any software run except a browser, which could only go to the Antivirus Soft web site. It reset the IP address to its own address and, since the machine was wireless, reset the IP address on the other wireless machine as well. It wouldn't let either machine accept a new IP address from the router until I did a WinSock reset on both machines. -p On 5/23/2010 3:55 AM, Bob W wrote: As far as I can tell, with Home your network must consist only of Win 7 boxes and nothing else. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2890 - Release Date: 05/22/10 13:26:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - more weirdness, this time in DC
Http://www.alphoto.com/images/weirdnessindc/ Enjoy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stupid Windows Question
I'm a belt and suspenders person when it comes to firewalls. Why not use both the NAT on the router and the Windows firewall and set up a firewall exception on the boxes if they don't see each other? -p On 5/23/2010 10:59 AM, Bob W wrote: Well, I always switch the Windows firewall off on my machines - I have ahardware firewall in the router to keep stuff out of the network. What seems to have made things difficult is that Dell also put a software firewall on the new box. Switching that off seems to have done the trick to get the XP and Win 7 boxes aware of each other. To make the NAS device visible I had to downgrade the security on Win 7 slightly. How non-IT people ever managebaffles me. All I have to do now is get Lightroom on the Win 7 box to import pictures on the NAS device from a catalogue on the XP box... B No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2891 - Release Date: 05/23/10 01:26:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Stupid Windows Question
I don't believe in over-complicating things. Firewalls give me nothing but grief at work, I don't need them doing it at home too. Although I suppose I'd have even more grief at work if we switched them off... I'm really pissed off that Dell included a firewall, switched on, in their software when they must know perfectly well that Windows comes with a firewall supplied. Having 2 software firewalls on one box is a recipe for grief. For non-IT users it's not an obvious thing to look for and would cause them real trouble getting networking going. It's wasted several hours of my time, and I'm an IT professional. Bob I'm a belt and suspenders person when it comes to firewalls. Why not use both the NAT on the router and the Windows firewall and set up a firewall exception on the boxes if they don't see each other? -p On 5/23/2010 10:59 AM, Bob W wrote: Well, I always switch the Windows firewall off on my machines - I have ahardware firewall in the router to keep stuff out of the network. What seems to have made things difficult is that Dell also put a software firewall on the new box. Switching that off seems to have done the trick to get the XP and Win 7 boxes aware of each other. To make the NAS device visible I had to downgrade the security on Win 7 slightly. How non-IT people ever managebaffles me. All I have to do now is get Lightroom on the Win 7 box to import pictures on the NAS device from a catalogue on the XP box... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - more weirdness, this time in DC
Nice set. I absolutely love http://www.alphoto.com/images/weirdnessindc/content/DBK79152_large.html On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: Http://www.alphoto.com/images/weirdnessindc/ Enjoy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stupid Windows Question
That is in fact exactly what I do, as it offers some protection from anything that manages to get inside the network (a risk as I have two machines that spend time on public networks, at school or elsewhere). The trick is to be sure to have no more than a single firewall running on any machine, preferably the Windows one (which is well documented and relatively predictable, if not necessarily the most capable) and be sure that no Norton/Symantec security software is anywhere near your network. -Adam On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm a belt and suspenders person when it comes to firewalls. Why not use both the NAT on the router and the Windows firewall and set up a firewall exception on the boxes if they don't see each other? -p On 5/23/2010 10:59 AM, Bob W wrote: Well, I always switch the Windows firewall off on my machines - I have ahardware firewall in the router to keep stuff out of the network. What seems to have made things difficult is that Dell also put a software firewall on the new box. Switching that off seems to have done the trick to get the XP and Win 7 boxes aware of each other. To make the NAS device visible I had to downgrade the security on Win 7 slightly. How non-IT people ever managebaffles me. All I have to do now is get Lightroom on the Win 7 box to import pictures on the NAS device from a catalogue on the XP box... B No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2891 - Release Date: 05/23/10 01:26:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Rice Duster
Another shot without much consequence. Boys like airplanes is the only reason that makes any sense. I see no spray plumbing, so am guessing it's filled with rice for planting or in some way engaged in that activity. First and only one of this year. Comments happily received. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=507 K20, da55~...@300mm, ISO 400, 1/4000, hand held, motor drive. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Returning defective goods : was RE: Leica M9
Sun May 23 01:11:29 CDT 2010 Boris Liberman wrote: On 5/23/2010 1:57 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: No corporation that consistently cheats it's customers will survive. To do that you need a gun and the unrestricted will to use it. Otherwise customers will flee to another haven. Free markets are free, and the worst offenses happen in the markets that are most controlled. Peter, I can give you a number of counter examples in my country. Boris, - one doesn't need to go across the ocean: Most PDMLers know a bunch of NYC-based photo stores that range from bait-n-switch to charge-n-send-nothing-or-crap scammers. Those have existed (or had existed) for many years. Some of them are located in mid-Manhattan, some in Brooklyn. (One can easily spot them here based on reviews: http://photo.net/neighbor/subcategory-index?id=2 ) Resellerratings.com is yet another good source for finding long-living resellers with consistantly bad reviews. Peter: In a large enough market, - the influx of fools feeding crooks is large enough (practically infinite) to support long term stagnation of the latter. (Besides, - strictly speaking, - there are no free markets. - Practically all free markets are regulated to some degree, as truly free markets are not sustainable long term. - But that's a subject for a separate and pointless - within PDML - discussion.) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: John Sessoms Subject: Re: Leica M9 In the case that started this discussion, the return was made in accordance with the retailer's published return policy. Not quite. Their return policy definitely states that items that have been damaged through customer use or abuse do not qualify for return. “...[U]se or abuse do not qualify...” Totally clear English. The question seems to be does spilling a drink on a non waterproof camera consitute customer abuse. I’d say yes it did. Abnormal use = abuse. I seriously doubt that camera designers factor in an alcoholic drink being spilled onto their non-waterproof body, and would certify normal performance thereafter. Answer that and you have answered if the return policy was followed. William Robb keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Leica M9
I'd say yes it did. Abnormal use = abuse. I seriously doubt that camera designers factor in an alcoholic drink being spilled onto their non-waterproof body, and would certify normal performance thereafter. I disagree. Abnormal use does not equal - indeed, does not even imply - abuse. The designers of anything have a responsibility to take human factors into account. These include taking your camera into a pub where somebody might spill a drink on it. The designers are not obliged to guarantee that the camera will work afterwards, but I wouldn't class something like that as abuse, I'd call it normal wear and tear. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stupid Windows Question
On 5/23/2010 12:24 PM, Bob W wrote: I don't believe in over-complicating things. Firewalls give me nothing but grief at work, I don't need them doing it at home too. Although I suppose I'd have even more grief at work if we switched them off... I'm really pissed off that Dell included a firewall, switched on, in their software when they must know perfectly well that Windows comes with a firewall supplied. Having 2 software firewalls on one box is a recipe for grief. For non-IT users it's not an obvious thing to look for and would cause them real trouble getting networking going. I agree - it sets the customer up for a lot of frustration and relentless calls to tech support. It's wasted several hours of my time, and I'm an IT professional. Bob I'm a belt and suspenders person when it comes to firewalls. Why not use both the NAT on the router and the Windows firewall and set up a firewall exception on the boxes if they don't see each other? -p On 5/23/2010 10:59 AM, Bob W wrote: Well, I always switch the Windows firewall off on my machines - I have ahardware firewall in the router to keep stuff out of the network. What seems to have made things difficult is that Dell also put a software firewall on the new box. Switching that off seems to have done the trick to get the XP and Win 7 boxes aware of each other. To make the NAS device visible I had to downgrade the security on Win 7 slightly. How non-IT people ever managebaffles me. All I have to do now is get Lightroom on the Win 7 box to import pictures on the NAS device from a catalogue on the XP box... No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2891 - Release Date: 05/23/10 01:26:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Rice Duster
Excellent shot of an old and angry airplane. Good one. Paul On May 23, 2010, at 1:51 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Another shot without much consequence. Boys like airplanes is the only reason that makes any sense. I see no spray plumbing, so am guessing it's filled with rice for planting or in some way engaged in that activity. First and only one of this year. Comments happily received. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=507 K20, da55~...@300mm, ISO 400, 1/4000, hand held, motor drive. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
2010/5/23 William Robb war...@gmail.com: I for one am not on one, I just happen to think two wrongs don't make a right. But two Wrights can make an airplane. And an airplane can make three lefts, some even four. Things inevitably come full circle. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Rice Duster
Nice shot of a turbine powered Ag Cat. -p On 5/23/2010 12:51 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Another shot without much consequence. Boys like airplanes is the only reason that makes any sense. I see no spray plumbing, so am guessing it's filled with rice for planting or in some way engaged in that activity. First and only one of this year. Comments happily received. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=507 K20, da55~...@300mm, ISO 400, 1/4000, hand held, motor drive. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2891 - Release Date: 05/23/10 01:26:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: still VeryOT: helmets...
No she's got it right. She's got balls to ride a racing bike across what looks like a dance floor at high speed so she needs to protect them. 2010/5/23 Bob W p...@web-options.com: This woman's got it wrong then - she's wearing one of those on her head: http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/web/MultimediaFiles/20080724_NEWPORT_HOLDI NG_CAMP_27.JPG Does not compute. Helmet don't protect your nuts. You need one of these. http://www.nuttybuddy.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Birding with the 18-250
2010/5/23 Bob W p...@web-options.com: I had a similar problem with my breaksfast and a troupe of colobus monkeys in Ethiopia once. Same in Northwestern Malaysia - don't go near them with a plastic carrier bag or worse, food in your hands... dunno what kind of monkeys they were though - I can post a pic if anyone knows their monkey around this list cheers ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: the Quercy triangle (was Re: Night photography of NY and LV)
2010/5/22 Bob W p...@web-options.com: Well, not really France though... :o) But another place I would very much like to visit some day. Well worth the trip and absolutely do not miss out on the Osteria U Mulinu at Feliceto; best reached from Calvi. Reservation recommended, dinner starts at 8, be there at 7.30, expect to stay until eleven and have a great time including ham frisbees to be caught with your plate and shotguns fired out the open window... Joseph is a former soccer pro for a swiss team, has a Gault Millau hat and very much celebrates his personal party there... Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Photographing Ice Hockey: K-x vs. K20D
I have been reading the recent K-7 thread with great interest. I have a K20D. From September 2009-March 2010 I took at least 10,000 exposures at my son's hockey games, shooting from either a penalty box or behind the bench, using a DA 50-135 2.8, shooting with an aperature priority setting of 2.8 and ASA of either 800-1600 or 1600 only. I shoot RAW. As a friend put it, the quality of my shots was roughly inversely proportional to the speed of the action. The action shots were a little soft, or a little blurred as my shutter speeds were not quite fast enough. The light in these recreation rinks usually leaves a lot to be desired. I think I need to be shooting at ASA 3200 or 6400. To add one more variable to the mix, I've purchased a Sigma 70-200 2.8 with next season in mind which probably means I need to add to be at least one f-stop faster just to stay where I am now. I have a monopod and am planning to use it although I find it awkward. Lastly, although I have become addicted to hockey photography I use the K20D for all family photography including soccer games as well. My questions are: should I consider selling my K20D and buying a K-x? Can I shoot at 6400 with a K-x and get quality shots? What would I lose by replacing the K20D with the K-x? I read a lot of discussion about a new, high end Pentax SLR being announced in September. What is the likelihood of that happening? Thanks for your comments, Robert -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: eckinator Subject: Re: Leica M9 I for one am not on one, I just happen to think two wrongs don't make a right. But two Wrights can make an airplane. Can two rites make a ceremony? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
2010/5/23 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: I for one am not on one, I just happen to think two wrongs don't make a right. But two Wrights can make an airplane. Can two rites make a ceremony? Dunno. Can two wrights make a play? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - more weirdness, this time in DC
Doug Brewer wrote: Http://www.alphoto.com/images/weirdnessindc/ Enjoy Ann's top pick - shades of HCB :-) http://www.alphoto.com/images/weirdnessindc/content/DBK70790_large.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - more weirdness, this time in DC
Http://www.alphoto.com/images/weirdnessindc/ Enjoy Oh alright then, I will. Some great stuff there - you have a great sense of composition and colour. I love 1, 2, 4, 7, 9, 11. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML 2010 Annual Reconciliation?
Mark, did you ask everyone directly? Cheers Ecke 2010/5/22 Tom C caka...@gmail.com: Mark, How's it looking regarding receipts for all the copies brought to the exhibit? I know some one suggested the idea that if you end up short, that participants could voluntarily contribute so you don't get stuck holding the bill. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- Wait! Who's got my dignity?
It shouldn't happen to a dog.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20dignity.html
Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-200 f3.8~5.6
As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
--
{\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier
New;}}
\viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the
interface subtly weird.\par
}
--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow
the directions.
RE: GESO - more weirdness, this time in DC
Doug Brewer wrote: Http://www.alphoto.com/images/weirdnessindc/ Enjoy Weirdness, but good weirdness. This one stands out for me: http://www.alphoto.com/images/weirdnessindc/content/DBK70790_large.html A good set Doug. Thanks, Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
The book is here
First of all my profound thanks to all the team who put the book together, everyone who donated their autographed and Chris Mitchell who took upon himself to get the book signed and sent to me. I love you all =) I am still pretty much overwhelmed by the quality of many of the images, I'll sit down for the third reading now. Thank you everybody and I am proud to be a small part of this list. Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Wait! Who's got my dignity?
It's a dog's life... ROFL brilliant catch... what were they thinking?
Thanks for sharing
Ecke
2010/5/23 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
It shouldn't happen to a dog.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20dignity.html
Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-200 f3.8~5.6
As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
--
{\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0
Courier New;}}
\viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the
interface subtly weird.\par
}
--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
follow the directions.
--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow
the directions.
RE: geso My Chicago best of set.
Larry Colen wrote: I finally finished going through my shots from my Chicago trip and winnowed them down to 48. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623991190309/ or alternatively http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623991190309/ A good set Larry. The dancing ones are outstanding and I love the pigeons at ground level too. I think this: http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDMLers/slides/_IGP2668.html Is you taking this: http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/4607848131/ Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - more weirdness, this time in DC
Excellent. I think this one is very understated. Whatever that means. http://www.alphoto.com/images/weirdnessindc/content/DBK79152_large.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photographing Ice Hockey: K-x vs. K20D
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Robert Jordan forbe...@yahoo.com wrote: I have been reading the recent K-7 thread with great interest. I have a K20D. From September 2009-March 2010 I took at least 10,000 exposures at my son's hockey games, shooting from either a penalty box or behind the bench, using a DA 50-135 2.8, shooting with an aperature priority setting of 2.8 and ASA of either 800-1600 or 1600 only. I shoot RAW. As a friend put it, the quality of my shots was roughly inversely proportional to the speed of the action. The action shots were a little soft, or a little blurred as my shutter speeds were not quite fast enough. The light in these recreation rinks usually leaves a lot to be desired. I think I need to be shooting at ASA 3200 or 6400. To add one more variable to the mix, I've purchased a Sigma 70-200 2.8 with next season in mind which probably means I need to add to be at least one f-stop faster just to stay where I am now. I have a monopod and am planning to use it although I find it awkward. Lastly, although I have become addicted to hockey photography I use the K20D for all family photography including soccer games as well. My questions are: should I consider selling my K20D and buying a K-x? Can I shoot at 6400 with a K-x and get quality shots? What would I lose by replacing the K20D with the K-x? I read a lot of discussion about a new, high end Pentax SLR being announced in September. What is the likelihood of that happening? Thanks for your comments, Robert The K-x delivers excellent results at ISO 6400, I don't even use NR anymore unless I need to go to 12,800. In general, the K-x is an upgrade over the K20D, but you do lose a few things. The buffer is smaller (5 RAW, 17 JPEG at 4.7fps, double that at 2fps), it's not weather-sealed, has only 1 control wheel and a smaller and slightly dimmer viewfinder, you pretty much have to stick to either a fixed centre AF point or auto-selection, and you're back to using AA batteries. You gain greatly increased high ISO performance, improved AF, a speed boost to almost 5fps, some significant size/weight savings and a more responsive camera (The K20D feels slow compared to the K-x or K-7 for UI and control response). That said, I'd wait right now and see if Pentax releases a updated K-7 for Photokina, as the K-7 is going to be a better choice than the K-x for Hockey work aside from the high ISO performance and any update will likely be simply an improved sensor in the same basic body. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Rice Duster
Thanks much, Paul! Yeah, I think he's pretending to be a member of the WWII P40 wrangling Flying Tigers. Looks like he's wearing a leather helmet, but I can't make out the goggles. ;-) Jack --- On Sun, 5/23/10, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: PESO: Rice Duster To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 11:44 AM Excellent shot of an old and angry airplane. Good one. Paul On May 23, 2010, at 1:51 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Another shot without much consequence. Boys like airplanes is the only reason that makes any sense. I see no spray plumbing, so am guessing it's filled with rice for planting or in some way engaged in that activity. First and only one of this year. Comments happily received. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=507 K20, da55~...@300mm, ISO 400, 1/4000, hand held, motor drive. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
Two Wongs can make a chop suey. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Rice Duster
That's certainly what it appears to be. Deep throated power sounding beast. Jack --- On Sun, 5/23/10, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: PESO: Rice Duster To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 11:48 AM Nice shot of a turbine powered Ag Cat. -p On 5/23/2010 12:51 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Another shot without much consequence. Boys like airplanes is the only reason that makes any sense. I see no spray plumbing, so am guessing it's filled with rice for planting or in some way engaged in that activity. First and only one of this year. Comments happily received. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=507 K20, da55~...@300mm, ISO 400, 1/4000, hand held, motor drive. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2891 - Release Date: 05/23/10 01:26:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Rice Duster
On 23/5/10, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=507 Shouldn't that be 'Please Wright Description'.? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Wait! Who's got my dignity?
A clear case of animal cruelty.
Jack
--- On Sun, 5/23/10, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
Subject: PESO -- Wait! Who's got my dignity?
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 2:25 PM
It shouldn't happen to a dog.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20dignity.html
Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-200
f3.8~5.6
As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
--
{\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0
Courier New;}}
\viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to
Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par
}
-- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link
directly above and follow the directions.
--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow
the directions.
