RE: Trip to Brum?

2010-07-12 Thread Chris Mitchell
Christine Aguila
> 
> >> >> I can be there by midday on Saturday. Any other takers?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Count me in.  I'll be in the area of Queenssitting around that
> time.
> >> My
> >> > cousin, who delivers firkins of two-headed ducks ale for a living,
> >> has a
> >> > run in the area that day.  She's headed for Kats Red,  but she
> said
> >> > she'd run me to Birmingham first so I could meet you guys at
> midday.
> >> > Bring mugs because I'll be carrying an oversized flask of ale.
> See
> >> ya
> >> > then.  Cheers, Christine
> >>
> >> Queenssitting sounds like something NSTGAW.  Not safe to Google at
> >> work.
> >
> > Not being constrained by work I Googled several aspects of
> Christine's
> > paragraph and could make no sense of any of them, nor of the
> paragraph in
> > toto. I concluded that she had already got herself stuck into the
> beer and
> > was typing like a Siamese duck.
> 
> 
> Queenssitting was just a bit of play with Kingstanding to the north of
> Birmingham as was Kats Red with Kitts Green, which is to the east of
> Birmingham--actually, it was all a bit of play, which I thought you
> guys
> would have figured out right away  :-).  Cheers, Christine


What would you have made of Acocks Green, a district of our Birmingham?

Chris



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Re: Spanish team has done it!

2010-07-12 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/12/2010 9:14 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


Jerry,

Actually, soccer (along with tennis) is a sport where professional
athletes have the most balanced bodies
Most other sports feature (or favor) certain body disproportions to
various degrees.

Arguably, that is what attracts many female viewers (for the men's
games).

Igor


Igor, could it be that you're confusing the general training that 
various athletes perform for their game? You see, I played tennis a lot 
when I was a student. Just for fun, really. Say, I played 2-4 times a 
week throughout several years, and each time it was between 1 and 2 
hours. I developed tennis elbow and my right hand (around the elbow 
area, for lack of proper term) became visibly bigger than the left one. 
If you consider the body movements of the game of tennis you will see 
that it is highly asymmetrical sport. Perhaps swimmers have more 
balanced bodies as it is said that swimming helps to offset the damage 
that tennis has on one's body.


Boris

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OT: Food

2010-07-12 Thread William Robb
Marinade a meals worth of chicken thighs in an orange/chipotle sauce for a 
few hours.
Simmer slowly in butter until about 90% cooked and then add three or four 
sliced strawberries per thigh.

Continue cooking until strawberries have cooked down to a sauce.

The best food is simple.
This is both simple and incredible, and combines well with a salad of 
spinach, strawberries and mandarin orange segments.


Enjoy.



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Re: Intervals to video

2010-07-12 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 12, 2010, at 10:39, Larry Colen wrote:

> 
> On Jul 12, 2010, at 1:02 AM, eckinator wrote:
> 
>> A buddy of mine has written a timelapse tool for windows that will
>> output to IIRC avi - would that be of any use?
> 
> It may.  In theory, one of my computers will boot into Windows XP, so if I 
> can't find something else, I can do it that way.
> 

You can also group a bunch of still images into a video using Quicktime.  Or is 
it QT Pro?  Either way, cheap.

 -Charles

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Re: PESO -- East Grand Avenue Bridge

2010-07-12 Thread P. J. Alling

Yes, it is.  Over the Quinnipiac River.

On 7/12/2010 9:15 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Is that Grand Ave. in New Haven?

I find the photo a bit left-heavy; and the colorful something-or-other peeking 
through the ironwork on the left is distracting.  Maybe crop off the left 20% 
or so?

Cheers,

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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From: P. J. Alling
Subject: PESO -- East Grand Avenue Bridge
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 11:58 PM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20eastgrandavenuebridge.html

Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-200mm
f3.8~5.6

As usual comments are welcome but maybe be totally
ignored.

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Re: PESO -- East Grand Avenue Bridge

2010-07-12 Thread P. J. Alling
According to Norton Safe Web, dl.dropbox.com is clean, if anyone spooked 
by the message wishes to try again.


On 7/12/2010 12:20 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

I'm sorry too, Peter.

Thanks,

Jack

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From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: PESO -- East Grand Avenue Bridge
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 7:38 AM
Sorry, Dropbox is a file
hosting/backup site.  Since it's free if
someone hosts a virus on their share, intentional or
unintentionally
some antivirus software blacklists the whole domain. 
I really don't

have any control over that unfortunately.  Hopefully
the management is
working on it now.  Unfortunately Norton won't remove
their block until
they know it's been cleaned.

On 7/12/2010 9:17 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 

I'm getting a Norton "site unsafe" warning, Peter. So
   

didn't have a chance to enjoy the image. :(
 

Jack

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wrote:
 


   

From: P. J. Alling
Subject: PESO -- East Grand Avenue Bridge
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 8:58 PM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20eastgrandavenuebridge.html

Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA
 

28-200mm
 

f3.8~5.6

As usual comments are welcome but maybe be
 

totally
 

ignored.

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Re: SR and Video on the K7 works quite well...

2010-07-12 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Robinson" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: SR and Video on the K7 works quite well...



On Jul 12, 2010, at 21:37, Christine Aguila wrote:



- Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: SR and Video on the K7 works quite well...



Cotty wrote:


On 12/7/10, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed:


I leave my K7 in "low-res" for videos because I just don't have the 
time

to deal with HiDef.  However... this little clip is a good example of
the SR "holding its own" while bouncing along in wind and waves on the
lake this past weekend.  For the most part, you see the boat jumping 
up
and down underneath the camera - most of the jolts removed by the 
system.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEt9AmOE7m4



Very impressive!

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oh dear, now I'm getting equipment lust


Me too, Ann.  Looks good, Charles.  I think I want one.  Cheers, 
Christine




I'll help you with a "wait until September's announcement (if it really 
happens)" reminder


Indeed.  I have been thinking about September.  Thanks for the reminder :-). 
Cheers, Christine





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Re: SR and Video on the K7 works quite well...

2010-07-12 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 12, 2010, at 21:37, Christine Aguila wrote:

> 
> - Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 8:44 PM
> Subject: Re: SR and Video on the K7 works quite well...
> 
> 
>> Cotty wrote:
>> 
>>> On 12/7/10, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>> 
>>> 
 I leave my K7 in "low-res" for videos because I just don't have the time
 to deal with HiDef.  However... this little clip is a good example of
 the SR "holding its own" while bouncing along in wind and waves on the
 lake this past weekend.  For the most part, you see the boat jumping up
 and down underneath the camera - most of the jolts removed by the system.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEt9AmOE7m4
 
>>> 
>>> Very impressive!
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>> Yes and...
>> oh dear, now I'm getting equipment lust
> 
> Me too, Ann.  Looks good, Charles.  I think I want one.  Cheers, Christine
> 

I'll help you with a "wait until September's announcement (if it really 
happens)" reminder

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Re: Trip to Brum?

2010-07-12 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W" 

To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: Trip to Brum?



>> I can be there by midday on Saturday. Any other takers?
>
>
>
> Count me in.  I'll be in the area of Queenssitting around that time.
My
> cousin, who delivers firkins of two-headed ducks ale for a living,
has a
> run in the area that day.  She's headed for Kats Red,  but she said
> she'd run me to Birmingham first so I could meet you guys at midday.
> Bring mugs because I'll be carrying an oversized flask of ale.  See
ya
> then.  Cheers, Christine

Queenssitting sounds like something NSTGAW.  Not safe to Google at
work.


Not being constrained by work I Googled several aspects of Christine's
paragraph and could make no sense of any of them, nor of the paragraph in
toto. I concluded that she had already got herself stuck into the beer and
was typing like a Siamese duck.



Queenssitting was just a bit of play with Kingstanding to the north of 
Birmingham as was Kats Red with Kitts Green, which is to the east of 
Birmingham--actually, it was all a bit of play, which I thought you guys 
would have figured out right away  :-).  Cheers, Christine





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Re: SR and Video on the K7 works quite well...

2010-07-12 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Sanfedele" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: SR and Video on the K7 works quite well...



Cotty wrote:


On 12/7/10, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed:



I leave my K7 in "low-res" for videos because I just don't have the time
to deal with HiDef.  However... this little clip is a good example of
the SR "holding its own" while bouncing along in wind and waves on the
lake this past weekend.  For the most part, you see the boat jumping up
and down underneath the camera - most of the jolts removed by the system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEt9AmOE7m4



Very impressive!

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Me too, Ann.  Looks good, Charles.  I think I want one.  Cheers, Christine




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Re: Spanish team has done it!

2010-07-12 Thread Christine Aguila

Way to go Spain!  Cheers, Christine


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Re: OT Back and finally a steady heart beat.........

2010-07-12 Thread Christine Aguila

Way to go, Dave!  Glad it went well.  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" 

To: "Pentax Discuss" 
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:12 PM
Subject: OT Back and finally a steady heart beat.


..OR, why i decided never to be a wedding or wadding 
photographer.:-)


Wedding went well, shot about 550 frames, and despite the nervousness
on my part, muddled through it quite well I'd have to say.

What i thought would be a fully out door wedding was in fact under an
open sided large wood gazebo with solid roof. Bride and groom stood
right at the sun/shade line. When i saw that at the rehearsal Friday,
i went into "oh no" mode. But a ton of practice shots proved
fulfilling and the actual day went well. Fill flash worked great, only
had a few over and or under exposed shots.

Bride had a list of shots she wanted and one of the bridesmaids had a
list on how the3 family shots needed to go, its a large family here.
This proved invaluable.

Now to sort and adjust.

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Re: Managing image files

2010-07-12 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Weir" 




On Jul 12, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Bob W wrote:


try Lightroom


Thanks, Bob. Curious -- how does it differ from Elements?



Hi Eric:  I started with Elements, then soon tried Lightroom, and I've never 
wanted to use Elements again.  I find Lightroom's photo management 
excellent, and I use Lightroom to upload to my web site for my PESOs and 
GESOs, and I'm going to use it for my online portfolio as well (I actually 
worked on that a bit today).  It's s easy to do this once you have a web 
site.  I HATE Elements' organizer for it's management stuff.  Can't stand 
it.  Clunky for me to use.  Also, I really don't want to spend a lot of time 
with Photoshop layers and such.  I want to try to take good pictures 
in-camera, so I have shorter post-process time. Because I can't do overly 
obsessive localized editing, I know I have to do good camera work to get an 
acceptable shot.  Easier said than done to be sure, but I try. Anyway, using 
Lightroom helps me in this goal.  Though you can do quite a bit of 
post-processing with Lightroom, and I checked out Lightroom 3 today, and 
wow, I want it, but I don't have 2 gigs of RAM or service pack 3.  (Just had 
a conversation with hubby over dinner about the possibility of a new 
computer.)  If you can, you should download a free trial of Lightroom 3. 
I'm pretty darn sure you'll like it.  Cheers, Christine 




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Re: Managing image files

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 12, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> In sum, Lightroom is an image-management application with a great
> depth of image processing services. Photoshop and similar applications
> are image processing applications. Lightroom is designed to work
> stand-alone and with other image processing applications to allow
> construction of appropriate policies and operations suitable for a
> complete photographic workflow.

Thanks, Godfrey. That too is very helpful.

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Re: Be Careful of KEH

2010-07-12 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Cory Waters  wrote:

> Care to tell us what caused you to send this message today, a full two years
> since your unpleasant experience?

There were folks recommending KEH in the "Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8
F2.8" thread, so I assumed that prompted Morris' comments.

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Re: Another GESO: White Mountains

2010-07-12 Thread Christine Aguila
Very nice gallery, Mark.  I especially like 2723 and 3025.  Cheers, 
Christine



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Subject: Another GESO: White Mountains



A couple of weeks ago Dr. Lisa and I took a week-long hiking trip into
the White Mountains of New Hampshire. Photo opportunities were
disappointing but I did get a few worth keeping:
http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/franconia1/index.html


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Re: PESO x3: Frost

2010-07-12 Thread Christine Aguila
Pretty!  I'm actually reading for some cooler weather.  It's been an odd and 
humid summer.  I'm ready for a change.  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: "David Mann" 

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Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 12:56 AM
Subject: PESO x3: Frost


A friend in Boston told me it was 38 degrees C there the other day.  Well 
my heart bleeds.  We had -4 this morning, today peaked at 8.  I hate the 
cold.


http://www.multi.net.nz/frost/

K10D, FA100mm f/2.8 Macro, numb fingers

We had a little fantail come to swim in the bird bath this afternoon and 
the poor fellow got a bit confused when he ended up ice skating instead. 
He came back a couple of minutes after I'd removed the ice layer and 
changed the water.  Sorry, no photos.  I'll get some one day.


Cheers,
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Re: PESO- a film photo

2010-07-12 Thread Christine Aguila
Very nice picture and an especially touching story.  Thanks for posting, 
Bong.  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: PESO- a film photo



Christine,

Here's a b/w photo (shot with an MZ3 though, not an MX; Ilford not 
Kodak...).


http://bongmanayon.posterous.com/

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Re: PESO - No Dogs Allowed

2010-07-12 Thread Christine Aguila

Cute one, Frank.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO - No Dogs Allowed


http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/07/no-dogs-allowed.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO -- East Grand Avenue Bridge

2010-07-12 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
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I'm getting a Norton "site unsafe" warning, Peter. So didn't have a chance 
to enjoy the image. :(



Same here.  Cheers, Christine




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Re: PESO - 2 street shotshttp://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/cell-phone-snaps/12420035_MC2ch/1/930797123_H2EmN/Medium

2010-07-12 Thread Christine Aguila

Wow!  Bad hair day to be sure.  Fun catch, Ann.  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters" 

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Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: PESO - 2 street 
shotshttp://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/cell-phone-snaps/12420035_MC2ch/1/930797123_H2EmN/Medium




On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 13:11 -0400, "Ann Sanfedele" 
wrote:
tp://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/cell-phone-snaps/12420035_MC2ch/1/930797176_cEirN/Medium


Bad Hair
(name the decade of the style for extra points :-) )

http://tinyurl.com/32e3l7g

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/cell-phone-snaps/12420035_MC2ch/1/930797123_H2EmN/Medium





Bloody hell. She could break her neck if a strong wind comes up



Cheers

Brian

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Re: "Heat lightning"

2010-07-12 Thread Christine Aguila

Nice!  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Robinson" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 4:02 PM
Subject: PESO: "Heat lightning"


On my last night out, the storm clouds started building up and flashing 
inside... we never really saw any storm activity (disappointing) but it 
was sure fun watching the clouds on the horizon blink and flash for a 
couple of hours before going to bed!


http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/vermilion/content/IMGP3258_large.html

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Re: Be Careful of KEH

2010-07-12 Thread Cory Waters

Morris,
Care to tell us what caused you to send this message today, a full two 
years since your unpleasant experience?


I've bought a few things from KEH over the years and had good luck.  It 
has been a while since I bought anything from them.  Since the DSLRs hit 
the market they've haven't had much of anything I was interested in when 
I've stopped by their site.

Cory


On 7/12/2010 3:13 PM, Morris Galloway wrote:

De-Lurking for a while.

Be careful when dealing with KEH. I used to be a big fan of theirs and
made frequent purchases of Pentax gear.

Until two years ago.

That was when I bought two items in rapid succession that arrived
'incomplete' contrary to their description. And I immediately requested
permission to ship back the items.

They simply ignored both requests, ignored mailed requested, ignored
telephone calls. All requests for permission to return were done within
their 'grace period.'

You'd think they would be more responsive to a guy that offices right
across the street from the Courthouse, but even a letter on my "Official
Lawyer" letterhead got no response. Both items were under $100. But
Still ...

In other words, don't trust them unless you are willing to give up and
simply throw what you paid for into the trash. They treat you like a
Southerner when you're buying, but you become a Yankee when you complain.

Galloway, constant lurker, Pentaxian since Honeywell.




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Re: Bald Eagle

2010-07-12 Thread Christine Aguila
You caught the eagle in great mood, Charles!  Excellent there.  I agree with 
those who suggest a crop to minimize the tree.  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Robinson" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 3:46 PM
Subject: PESO: Bald Eagle


I spent a long weekend up on Lake Vermilion here in Minnesota.  Lots of 
wildlife and water.


I managed to see quite a few loons and bald eagles - including watching 
one eagle swoop down and snatch a fish out of the water just 30 feet from 
me.  Very cool.   I must say that taking photos from a boat bobbing in the 
water, with the 80-200 in full-zoom is quite tricky.


Got a few good shots, though.  Here's a mildly-acceptable one, taken right 
after he lept off of a branch to fly off:


http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/vermilion/content/IMGP3237_large.html

Yeah, it's cropped a bit and sharpened a bit and was taken with a $40 
lens.  Someday I'll get the 50-300 and will be happy.


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Re: SR and Video on the K7 works quite well...

2010-07-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Cotty wrote:


On 12/7/10, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed:

 


I leave my K7 in "low-res" for videos because I just don't have the time
to deal with HiDef.  However... this little clip is a good example of
the SR "holding its own" while bouncing along in wind and waves on the
lake this past weekend.  For the most part, you see the boat jumping up
and down underneath the camera - most of the jolts removed by the system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEt9AmOE7m4
   



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(but am  a tad quesy too, I dont do boats well :_)

pass the dramamine

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Re: PESO - SVT

2010-07-12 Thread Bruce Walker

eckinator wrote:

Nice =) IMHO your framing is just a wee bit on the tight side but I
like your composition a lot.


Thanks, Ecke. I appreciate your criticism of the framing but if 
anything, I think I should have gotten even closer. To me it's more 
about the heat: the deep red, the sky blue, the chrome and the lines. I 
don't really care about revealing its car-wheelness. :-)


I've got a more cool, studied image of the spoked wheels of a vintage 
T-bird that I'm prepping as a contrast to this one. That image frames 
the entire wheel, plus some of the bodywork.


I really appreciate your examination.



Quick additional comment about this shot
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/2876773651/in/set-72157607590047251/
The Isetta is not a threewheeler, it has four wheels, two each on a
wide front and a narrow rear axle. Because of this it was nicknamed in
Germany the "Schlaglochsuchgerät", i.e. "pothole searching device" -
you just don't miss them with a four track vehicle...
Cheers
Ecke
2010/7/12 Bruce Walker :

More auto-detail pr0n: see at a Cruise on a late model Shelby Cobra Mustang
...

http://is.gd/dp8FW

K20D, DA* 16-50mm F2.8 @ 43mm, f/4.0, 1/350th, ISO 200.
Handheld.

Comments welcome!


Ah, you found my controversial Isetta shot.  Another PDMLer took me to 
task over the 3-wheel claim a couple of years ago. :-)


In my defense I can only point you at the wikipedia stuff where they 
explain that the UK version eventually had 3 wheels to take advantage of 
the road tax laws. With no reverse gear, it was classified as a three 
wheel motorcycle and could be driven with a motorcycle license.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isetta#BMW_Isetta_.28United_Kingdom.29

That said, I think the car in my photo is actually an earlier four-wheel 
one. :-)


-bmw


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Re: PESO -- East Grand Avenue Bridge

2010-07-12 Thread Rick Womer
Is that Grand Ave. in New Haven?

I find the photo a bit left-heavy; and the colorful something-or-other peeking 
through the ironwork on the left is distracting.  Maybe crop off the left 20% 
or so?

Cheers,

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> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20eastgrandavenuebridge.html
> 
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> f3.8~5.6
> 
> As usual comments are welcome but maybe be totally
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Re: Spanish team has done it!

2010-07-12 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:49:08PM +0200, Madame RD wrote:
> Le 12/07/10 10:27, Bob W a ?crit :
>> I also usually like the
>> Netherlands, but they played ugly last night
> and that was a real shame !! Spain was lucky the refs were excellent !

And a brit, at that :-)

Both the BBC and Sky Sports News made a big deal of that (not too
much of a surprise, rally - at least there was one brit on the field).

There again, both also gave quite a bit of time to coverage of the
octupus that was predicting (correctly, as it turned out) a Spanish win.


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Re: Monitor advice wanted

2010-07-12 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 07:40:13PM +0100, mike wilson wrote:
> John Francis wrote:
>
>> One thing that somewhat concerns me with the Dell 24" (and 27")
>> monitors is that they only seem to support a 60Hz refresh rate
>> at full resolution (or so the specs online suggest).
>>
>> I would have thought that might be a problem; I thought that
>> European guidelines for monitors suggest 85Hz or higher for a
>> workplace environment.  Personally I've had problems with 60Hz
>> systems (and with fluorescent light fixtures) causing headaches.
>
> The fastest refresh rate I have ever seen on an LCD monitor was 75Hz.  I  
> don't think the problem exists in the way it does with CRT ones.

Viewsonic, at least, offer refresh rates up to at least 85Hz; their
cheaper range shows 85Hz available in the 26" 1920x1200 VA2626wm.


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RE: Spanish team has done it!

2010-07-12 Thread Bob W
> >
> > Tennis players have disproportionately large racquet arms. As do
> squash
> > players. A good argument could be made that the top squash players
> are
> > the
> > fittest athletes on the planet.
> 
> Are you talking about the very first (or second, depending how you
> searc) image that comes if you search for "squash players" in Google?
> :-)
> 

I suspect we're getting different results...

> I was talking about widely televized sports.
> I don't think I've ever seen squash being broadcasted on TV..
> Maybe once, by a pure chance.

It's not very TV-friendly, which is probably why it'll never be an Olympic
sport. It's deadly dull to watch on TV. Great game to play though.




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Re: Ping

2010-07-12 Thread eckinator
2010/7/13 mike wilson :
>>
> pong

 no fair. how can you even think of saying that???
>>>
>>> Pang of jealousy?
>>
>> That's as bad a pung as I've ever seen...
>
> You're not openg to other suggestions?

Are you 'oping to appease me?

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Re: Ping

2010-07-12 Thread mike wilson

eckinator wrote:


2010/7/12 mike wilson :


pong


no fair. how can you even think of saying that???


Pang of jealousy?



That's as bad a pung as I've ever seen...


You're not openg to other suggestions?

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Re: Trip to Brum?

2010-07-12 Thread P. J. Alling

On 7/12/2010 2:38 PM, mike wilson wrote:

Christine Aguila wrote:



- Original Message - From: "Bob W" 
To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 1:52 PM
Subject: RE: Trip to Brum?



I can be there by midday on Saturday. Any other takers?




Count me in.  I'll be in the area of Queenssitting around that time.  
My cousin, who delivers firkins of two-headed ducks ale for a living, 
has a run in the area that day.  She's headed for Kats Red,  but she 
said she'd run me to Birmingham first so I could meet you guys at 
midday.  Bring mugs because I'll be carrying an oversized flask of 
ale.  See ya then.  Cheers, Christine


Queenssitting sounds like something NSTGAW.  Not safe to Google at work.


Even it it were, it shouldn't be.

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Re: Ping

2010-07-12 Thread eckinator
2010/7/12 mike wilson :
>>
>>> pong
>>
>> no fair. how can you even think of saying that???
>
> Pang of jealousy?

That's as bad a pung as I've ever seen...

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Re: Spanish team has done it!

2010-07-12 Thread P. J. Alling

On 7/12/2010 4:23 PM, Madame RD wrote:

Le 12/07/10 20:14, Igor Roshchin a écrit :


Jerry,

Actually, soccer (along with tennis) is a sport where professional
athletes have the most balanced bodies


naaa ...  basket ball players are much better looking ..   ;)
dominique




So you like freakishly tall men?

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Re: OT Back and finally a steady heart beat.........

2010-07-12 Thread eckinator
2010/7/12 David J Brooks :
>
> Wedding went well, shot about 550 frames

time to wade through and cull... but first kick back with a nice cool one =)

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

2010-07-12 Thread P. J. Alling
I know, I lived in Dunwoody for a year, I've seen single vehicle 
rollovers on I285 achieved at the blistering speed of 12mph.  I feel for 
you.



On 7/12/2010 1:32 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

On Jul 12, 2010, at 1:11 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

   

You should haunt www.keh.com.  They're very reputable, and they often sell more 
common, and make no mistake the A 28mm f2.8 isn't all that rare, lenses for 
much less than you can get them on ebay.  They don't have any A 28mms in stock 
right now, but they are likely to have more in the future.
 

Thanks for the heads up on prices, P.J.

I haven't exactly been "haunting" KEH, but I'll start. In addition to the 
things you say about them, I'm right here in Atlanta where they are. If I want, I can 
save on shipping costs, though driving in Atlanta traffic can make shipping worth the 
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Re: Spanish team has done it!

2010-07-12 Thread Igor Roshchin

Mon Jul 12 15:41:50 CDT 2010
Bob W wrote:

> > Jerry,
> > 
> > Actually, soccer (along with tennis) is a sport where professional
> > athletes have the most balanced bodies
> > Most other sports feature (or favor) certain body disproportions to
> > various degrees.
> > 
> 
> Tennis players have disproportionately large racquet arms. As do squash
> players. A good argument could be made that the top squash players are
> the
> fittest athletes on the planet.

Are you talking about the very first (or second, depending how you
searc) image that comes if you search for "squash players" in Google?
:-)

I was talking about widely televized sports.
I don't think I've ever seen squash being broadcasted on TV..
Maybe once, by a pure chance.  

> 
> > Arguably, that is what attracts many female viewers (for the men's
> >  games).
> >  
> Women seem to be quite fond of footballers' legs. Gary Lineker was very
> popular in that regard during his playing days. 

And he is again a bachelor, probably not for long. :-)

Mon Jul 12 15:23:45 CDT 2010
Madame RD wrote:

> > Actually, soccer (along with tennis) is a sport where professional
> > athletes have the most balanced bodies
> >
> 
> naaa ...  basket ball players are much better looking ..   ;)
> dominique

You may like basketball players, but they are disproportionate
compared to an average human body.  But if you like long bodies and
body parts (hands, ...) - by all means...

Cheers, 
Igor

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Re: SR and Video on the K7 works quite well...

2010-07-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/7/10, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I leave my K7 in "low-res" for videos because I just don't have the time
>to deal with HiDef.  However... this little clip is a good example of
>the SR "holding its own" while bouncing along in wind and waves on the
>lake this past weekend.  For the most part, you see the boat jumping up
>and down underneath the camera - most of the jolts removed by the system.
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEt9AmOE7m4

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Re: Managing image files

2010-07-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>
> On Jul 12, 2010, at 4:02 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:
>
>> Lightroom is about portfolios and has photo editing/manipulation 
>> capabilities.  Elements is about photo editing/manipulation and has (a very 
>> few) portfolio capabilities.  At least that's /my/ take on it. :-)
>
> Thanks, Doug. That's helpful. And more like what I'm looking for.

I'm not entirely sure what Doug refers to as "portfolios capabilities".

Lightroom has image management capabilities, that is:

- it knows where the image files you've told it about are, both on
live and off-line volumes

- it allows you to add keywords and other metadata to annotate the
photos it is managing

- it has a great deal of search and browse capabilities (and again
that refers to photos on live and off-line volumes) as well as
facilities for sorting, grading, renaming, and organizing images to
speed workflow.

- it allows you to do the bulk of standard photographic editing
required to raw, JPEG, TIFF and PSD image files (crop, spot, tonal and
color adjustments, etc), all with the same UI on the same tool set,
non-destructively. It's editing capabilities stop short of anything
having to do with multiple image compositing (anything associated with
HDR or panorama compositing, for instance) or pixel-level editing
(actually changing specific individual pixel values of the original
files).

- it has well-integrated facilities to open images for editing in
Photoshop, Photoshop Elements, and other pixel-level image processing
applications when that level of functionality is required, all the
while keeping them organized within the Lightroom scope of operations.

- it provides four convenient and template-able output facilities ...
export, slide show, print and web ... to generate rendered versions of
your original files for use outside the Lightroom environment.

- it can be used to edit one photo at a time or an arbitrary number of
photos simultaneously, for both metadata or image rendering. The
presets and templates allow you to design development instructions,
export, slide show, printing and web gallery layouts once and then
apply them at any time to whatever photo or group of photos you
choose.

In sum, Lightroom is an image-management application with a great
depth of image processing services. Photoshop and similar applications
are image processing applications. Lightroom is designed to work
stand-alone and with other image processing applications to allow
construction of appropriate policies and operations suitable for a
complete photographic workflow.

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Re: Managing image files

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 12, 2010, at 4:02 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

> Lightroom is about portfolios and has photo editing/manipulation 
> capabilities.  Elements is about photo editing/manipulation and has (a very 
> few) portfolio capabilities.  At least that's /my/ take on it. :-)

Thanks, Doug. That's helpful. And more like what I'm looking for.

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Re: Managing image files

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 12, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> My limited experience with iPhoto has been rather bad. It may have gotten a 
> lot better, but I thought it was rather annoying.

That's been my reaction. I feel like I'm forced to surrender my images to it, 
and then it seems to have a mind of its own about what to do with them. 

. . . . 

> All in all, I like lightroom. It does pretty much all of the editing stuff I 
> need, and it is great for managing the files. It also has the major advantage 
> of being the software that most people seem to use, which makes it easy to 
> find someone to ask when you can't figure out how to do something.

No small advantage for those of us who're not so geeky.

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RE: Trip to Brum?

2010-07-12 Thread Bob W
> >> I can be there by midday on Saturday. Any other takers?
> >
> >
> >
> > Count me in.  I'll be in the area of Queenssitting around that time.
> My
> > cousin, who delivers firkins of two-headed ducks ale for a living,
> has a
> > run in the area that day.  She's headed for Kats Red,  but she said
> > she'd run me to Birmingham first so I could meet you guys at midday.
> > Bring mugs because I'll be carrying an oversized flask of ale.  See
> ya
> > then.  Cheers, Christine
> 
> Queenssitting sounds like something NSTGAW.  Not safe to Google at
> work.

Not being constrained by work I Googled several aspects of Christine's
paragraph and could make no sense of any of them, nor of the paragraph in
toto. I concluded that she had already got herself stuck into the beer and
was typing like a Siamese duck.




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RE: Spanish team has done it!

2010-07-12 Thread Bob W
> Jerry,
> 
> Actually, soccer (along with tennis) is a sport where professional
> athletes have the most balanced bodies
> Most other sports feature (or favor) certain body disproportions to
> various degrees.
> 

Tennis players have disproportionately large racquet arms. As do squash
players. A good argument could be made that the top squash players are the
fittest athletes on the planet.

> Arguably, that is what attracts many female viewers (for the men's
> games).
> 
> Igor

Women seem to be quite fond of footballers' legs. Gary Lineker was very
popular in that regard during his playing days. 

On the other hand, there's Peter Crouch...

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Re: Spanish team has done it!

2010-07-12 Thread Madame RD

Le 12/07/10 20:14, Igor Roshchin a écrit :


Jerry,

Actually, soccer (along with tennis) is a sport where professional
athletes have the most balanced bodies
   


naaa ...  basket ball players are much better looking ..   ;)
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Re: OT Back and finally a steady heart beat.........

2010-07-12 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:53 PM, P N Stenquist  wrote:
> Congratulations. Sounds like a win.
>
> Now, back up, back up, back up!

Done, done, done.

Dave
>
> Paul
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:12 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
>
>> ..OR, why i decided never to be a wedding or wadding
>> photographer.:-)
>>
>> Wedding went well, shot about 550 frames, and despite the nervousness
>> on my part, muddled through it quite well I'd have to say.
>>
>> What i thought would be a fully out door wedding was in fact under an
>> open sided large wood gazebo with solid roof. Bride and groom stood
>> right at the sun/shade line. When i saw that at the rehearsal Friday,
>> i went into "oh no" mode. But a ton of practice shots proved
>> fulfilling and the actual day went well. Fill flash worked great, only
>> had a few over and or under exposed shots.
>>
>> Bride had a list of shots she wanted and one of the bridesmaids had a
>> list on how the3 family shots needed to go, its a large family here.
>> This proved invaluable.
>>
>> Now to sort and adjust.
>>
>> Dave
>>
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RE: Managing image files

2010-07-12 Thread Bob W
> > try Lightroom
> 
> Thanks, Bob. Curious -- how does it differ from Elements?
> 

no idea - I've never used Elements.




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Re: Managing image files

2010-07-12 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-07-12 13:52, Adam Maas wrote:


try Lightroom


Thanks, Bob. Curious -- how does it differ from Elements?

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Lightroom is designed specifically for Photography, offers far more
robust image management and more control over RAW conversions but
doesn't offer as much localized editing capability or most of the
non-photographic oriented tools which Elements has.


Lightroom is about portfolios and has photo editing/manipulation 
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very few) portfolio capabilities.  At least that's /my/ take on it. :-)


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Re: OT Back and finally a steady heart beat.........

2010-07-12 Thread P N Stenquist

Congratulations. Sounds like a win.

Now, back up, back up, back up!

Paul


On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:12 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

..OR, why i decided never to be a wedding or wadding  
photographer.:-)


Wedding went well, shot about 550 frames, and despite the nervousness
on my part, muddled through it quite well I'd have to say.

What i thought would be a fully out door wedding was in fact under an
open sided large wood gazebo with solid roof. Bride and groom stood
right at the sun/shade line. When i saw that at the rehearsal Friday,
i went into "oh no" mode. But a ton of practice shots proved
fulfilling and the actual day went well. Fill flash worked great, only
had a few over and or under exposed shots.

Bride had a list of shots she wanted and one of the bridesmaids had a
list on how the3 family shots needed to go, its a large family here.
This proved invaluable.

Now to sort and adjust.

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Re: Monitor advice wanted

2010-07-12 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-07-12 14:40, mike wilson wrote:


The fastest refresh rate I have ever seen on an LCD monitor was 75Hz. I
don't think the problem exists in the way it does with CRT ones.


It doesn't due to the difference in the way that the LCD and CRT screens 
get "painted".


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PESO: Shadow Puppets

2010-07-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/40620...@n04/4787806690/

An odd and flawed photo, but I still thought I'd share it.

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Re: Be Careful of KEH

2010-07-12 Thread Paul
I recently picked up an LX from them in "EX+" condition that arrived
with its shutter lock not functioning (the switch didn't prevent the
meter from turning on or the shutter from being triggered.)

My first email to sa...@keh received no reply but after trying
serv...@keh.com they did email me saying to return it for a refund. My
response asking if they'd fix it rather than refund it went unanswered.

Fortunately I was able to fix it myself after 2 different repair folk
turned it down citing difficultly in getting parts from Pentax.

Caveat emptor.

Cheers,
Paul

On 07/12/2010 12:13 PM, Morris Galloway wrote:
>  De-Lurking for a while.
> 
> Be careful when dealing with KEH.  I used to be a big fan of theirs and
> made frequent purchases of Pentax gear.
> 
> Until two years ago.
> 
> That was when I bought two items in rapid succession that arrived
> 'incomplete' contrary to their description. And I immediately requested
> permission to ship back the items.
> 
> They simply ignored both requests, ignored mailed requested, ignored
> telephone calls. All requests for permission to return were done within
> their 'grace period.'
> 
> You'd think they would be more responsive to a guy that offices right
> across the street from the Courthouse, but even a letter on my "Official
> Lawyer" letterhead got no response.  Both items were under $100. But
> Still ...
> 
> In other words, don't trust them unless you are willing to give up and
> simply throw what you paid for into the trash. They treat you like a
> Southerner when you're buying, but you become a Yankee when you complain.
> 
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Be Careful of KEH

2010-07-12 Thread Morris Galloway

 De-Lurking for a while.

Be careful when dealing with KEH.  I used to be a big fan of theirs and 
made frequent purchases of Pentax gear.


Until two years ago.

That was when I bought two items in rapid succession that arrived 
'incomplete' contrary to their description. And I immediately requested 
permission to ship back the items.


They simply ignored both requests, ignored mailed requested, ignored 
telephone calls. All requests for permission to return were done within 
their 'grace period.'


You'd think they would be more responsive to a guy that offices right 
across the street from the Courthouse, but even a letter on my "Official 
Lawyer" letterhead got no response.  Both items were under $100. But 
Still ...


In other words, don't trust them unless you are willing to give up and 
simply throw what you paid for into the trash. They treat you like a 
Southerner when you're buying, but you become a Yankee when you complain.


Galloway, constant lurker, Pentaxian since Honeywell.

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OT Back and finally a steady heart beat.........

2010-07-12 Thread David J Brooks
..OR, why i decided never to be a wedding or wadding photographer.:-)

Wedding went well, shot about 550 frames, and despite the nervousness
on my part, muddled through it quite well I'd have to say.

What i thought would be a fully out door wedding was in fact under an
open sided large wood gazebo with solid roof. Bride and groom stood
right at the sun/shade line. When i saw that at the rehearsal Friday,
i went into "oh no" mode. But a ton of practice shots proved
fulfilling and the actual day went well. Fill flash worked great, only
had a few over and or under exposed shots.

Bride had a list of shots she wanted and one of the bridesmaids had a
list on how the3 family shots needed to go, its a large family here.
This proved invaluable.

Now to sort and adjust.

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Re: Spanish team has done it!

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 12, 2010, at 2:01 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

> I can't sit through an entire soccer game waiting for one score.

As you say, to each his own. Personally, I don't understand the fixation on 
scoring. There were any number of games during the Cup that were tense, and 
filled with drama, even though neither team had scored, or maybe only one once. 

I can appreciate basketball -- which, leaving aside some important differences, 
like the size of the court/field, and the length of the game, is actually 
pretty similar to soccer -- but the back-and-forth, from one end of the court 
to the other, with scoring happening on the order of every minute or two, 
strikes me as verging a bit on the hyperactive side.

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Re: OT - Bike Recovered

2010-07-12 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 09:36:03PM +1200, David Mann wrote:
> On Jul 12, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
> 
> > It can occasionally be a big crime, there was a bike theft case here
> > in Toronto that made international news. Of course it's not everyday
> > the cops catch a guy with a few thousand stolen bikes.
> 
> There was a case here a year or two ago where one of our national 
> track-racing champions had her custom-built bike stolen.
> 
> The publicity and the highly specialised nature of the bike made it 
> impossible, and probably dangerous, to try and sell.  Whoever had taken it 
> dumped it behind a bike shop and it was returned to its rightful owner.

Much the same happened here in the Tour of California.

Lance Armstrong's time trial bike was stolen out of the team van
while it was parked in the hotel parking lot.

After it was pointed out (on television, radio, etc., etc.) that
the bike was unique - hardly a single part of it was a commercially
available piece - and that it would be impossible for any purchaser
to let anybody else see it, and furthermore that no questions would
be asked if the bike were returned promptly, the police received a
phone call telling them where the bike could be picked up.


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SR and Video on the K7 works quite well...

2010-07-12 Thread Charles Robinson
I leave my K7 in "low-res" for videos because I just don't have the time to 
deal with HiDef.  However... this little clip is a good example of the SR 
"holding its own" while bouncing along in wind and waves on the lake this past 
weekend.  For the most part, you see the boat jumping up and down underneath 
the camera - most of the jolts removed by the system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEt9AmOE7m4

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Re: Monitor advice wanted

2010-07-12 Thread mike wilson

John Francis wrote:


One thing that somewhat concerns me with the Dell 24" (and 27")
monitors is that they only seem to support a 60Hz refresh rate
at full resolution (or so the specs online suggest).

I would have thought that might be a problem; I thought that
European guidelines for monitors suggest 85Hz or higher for a
workplace environment.  Personally I've had problems with 60Hz
systems (and with fluorescent light fixtures) causing headaches.


The fastest refresh rate I have ever seen on an LCD monitor was 75Hz.  I 
don't think the problem exists in the way it does with CRT ones.


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Re: Trip to Brum?

2010-07-12 Thread mike wilson

Christine Aguila wrote:



- Original Message - From: "Bob W" 
To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 1:52 PM
Subject: RE: Trip to Brum?



I can be there by midday on Saturday. Any other takers?




Count me in.  I'll be in the area of Queenssitting around that time.  My 
cousin, who delivers firkins of two-headed ducks ale for a living, has a 
run in the area that day.  She's headed for Kats Red,  but she said 
she'd run me to Birmingham first so I could meet you guys at midday.  
Bring mugs because I'll be carrying an oversized flask of ale.  See ya 
then.  Cheers, Christine


Queenssitting sounds like something NSTGAW.  Not safe to Google at work.

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Re: Managing image files

2010-07-12 Thread mike wilson

Adam Maas wrote:


RAW conversion


I don't think anyone has had the bottle to mention this yet.


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Re: OT - Bike Recovered

2010-07-12 Thread mike wilson

P. J. Alling wrote:

deturing crime  


Does not compute.


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Re: Ping

2010-07-12 Thread mike wilson

eckinator wrote:


2010/7/9 Bran Everseeking :


pong



no fair. how can you even think of saying that???


Pang of jealousy?

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Re: Managing image files

2010-07-12 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 12, 2010, at 8:40 AM, Eric Weir wrote:

> 
> I took my "new" *ist D to a community kitchen event yesterday and got my 
> first set of serious images, i.e., when I wasn't just fooling around to see 
> how the thing works. Judging from the images as displayed on the camera's LCD 
> there may be a couple good ones among them.
> 
> I'd appreciate any advice folks here might have on what I gather is called 
> "work flow." My limited experience managing film images on a computer has not 
> generated a comfortable way of working. I have a MacBook, and I can 
> definitely say I'm not real comfortable with iPhoto. At this point I find it 
> very confusing. I'd like to have a way of sorting through images, naming them 
> where appropriate, and categorizing and filing them before I turn them over 
> to iPhoto or its ilk. 
> 
My limited experience with iPhoto has been rather bad. It may have gotten a lot 
better, but I thought it was rather annoying.

I used to use Bibble pro, which had two great features:
It is relatively inexpensive.
It'll run on Linux, Mac and Windows.

The upgrade from Bibble 4 to Bibble 5 took so long that in the meantime I moved 
to lightroom.  I was able to get great prices through a friend at adobe and 
bought both lightroom and photoshop. I hardly ever use photoshop, and LR3 now 
has most of the features from PS that I used to do use. 

All in all, I like lightroom. It does pretty much all of the editing stuff I 
need, and it is great for managing the files. It also has the major advantage 
of being the software that most people seem to use, which makes it easy to find 
someone to ask when you can't figure out how to do something.  Unfortunately, 
this comes up much more than I'd like because there doesn't seem to be any good 
way to figure out if lightroom will do something, and if so how.  I've got 
several books on lightroom, and if you don't happen to know what they call a 
particular task, you can be SOL trying to find it in the index.  There have 
been several times that when I look up the word for what I want to do, 
lightroom uses that word to do something vaguely similar, but not what I need.

There is also a fair bit of religion involved in some of the subtleties of the 
workflow.  Godfrey puts on a good class on how to use LR, but that'll only help 
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Re: Spanish team has done it!

2010-07-12 Thread Igor Roshchin

Jerry,

Actually, soccer (along with tennis) is a sport where professional
athletes have the most balanced bodies 
Most other sports feature (or favor) certain body disproportions to
various degrees. 

Arguably, that is what attracts many female viewers (for the men's
games).

Igor


Mon Jul 12 12:05:06 CDT 2010
Jerry in Arizona wrote:

For some years I have been an on again off again soccer fan while playing 
and coaching American football.  But after watching this WC series I am now 
coninced that Soccer (futball) is a vastly superior GAME to American football.  
Congratulations to the Spanish team and all its supporters!


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Re: Monitor advice wanted

2010-07-12 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:55 PM, John Francis  wrote:
>
> One thing that somewhat concerns me with the Dell 24" (and 27")
> monitors is that they only seem to support a 60Hz refresh rate
> at full resolution (or so the specs online suggest).
>
> I would have thought that might be a problem; I thought that
> European guidelines for monitors suggest 85Hz or higher for a
> workplace environment.  Personally I've had problems with 60Hz
> systems (and with fluorescent light fixtures) causing headaches.
>

Refresh rate is only an issue with CRT's as LCD's don't refresh the
screen per se, they just update the pixel when it should change and
it's constant otherwise. CRT's only briefly illuminate the pixels and
do so at the refresh rate (IE at 60Hz each pixel is illuminated 60
times a second).

The issue with LCD's and refresh rate is in how quickly the screen
will be updated. At a 60Hz refresh rate pixels will only be updated
every 60th of a second as teh computer is only sending the screen
updates 60 times a second, higher refresh rates allow quicker screen
updates which is an issue for gamers running at high fps rates.
There's essentially no reason to ever run an LCD at anything other
than 60Hz if you aren't running an application that requires high fps
rates.


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Re: Spanish team has done it!

2010-07-12 Thread paul stenquist

On Jul 12, 2010, at 1:38 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

> 
> On Jul 12, 2010, at 1:05 PM, Jerry in Arizona wrote:
> 
>> For some years I have been an on again off again soccer fan while playing 
>> and coaching American football.  But after watching this WC series I am now 
>> coninced that Soccer (futball) is a vastly superior GAME to American 
>> football.  
>> Congratulations to the Spanish team and all its supporters!
> 
> When I was an undergraduate our wrestling coach -- who was a four time All 
> American, as were his two sons -- took a stopwatch to an American football 
> game and kept track of the amount of time the players were actually doing 
> anything other than walking around, standing around, in the huddle, etc. As I 
> recall it was less than two minutes. 
> 

According to a Wall Street Journal study of four recent broadcasts, and similar 
estimates by researchers, the average amount of time the ball is in play on the 
field during an NFL game is about 11 minutes. But action is only part of the 
game: strategy and formations play a large roll as do personnel shifts. I'm an 
avid fan of American football, but I can't sit through an entire soccer game 
waiting for one score. Each to their own.

Paul


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Re: Monitor advice wanted

2010-07-12 Thread John Francis

One thing that somewhat concerns me with the Dell 24" (and 27")
monitors is that they only seem to support a 60Hz refresh rate
at full resolution (or so the specs online suggest).

I would have thought that might be a problem; I thought that
European guidelines for monitors suggest 85Hz or higher for a
workplace environment.  Personally I've had problems with 60Hz
systems (and with fluorescent light fixtures) causing headaches.


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Re: Managing image files

2010-07-12 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>
> On Jul 12, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Bob W wrote:
>
>> try Lightroom
>
> Thanks, Bob. Curious -- how does it differ from Elements?
>
> --
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Lightroom is designed specifically for Photography, offers far more
robust image management and more control over RAW conversions but
doesn't offer as much localized editing capability or most of the
non-photographic oriented tools which Elements has.

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Re: Spanish team has done it!

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 12, 2010, at 1:05 PM, Jerry in Arizona wrote:

> For some years I have been an on again off again soccer fan while playing 
> and coaching American football.  But after watching this WC series I am now 
> coninced that Soccer (futball) is a vastly superior GAME to American 
> football.  
> Congratulations to the Spanish team and all its supporters!

When I was an undergraduate our wrestling coach -- who was a four time All 
American, as were his two sons -- took a stopwatch to an American football game 
and kept track of the amount of time the players were actually doing anything 
other than walking around, standing around, in the huddle, etc. As I recall it 
was less than two minutes. 

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Re: Managing image files

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 12, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Bob W wrote:

> try Lightroom

Thanks, Bob. Curious -- how does it differ from Elements?

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 12, 2010, at 1:11 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> You should haunt www.keh.com.  They're very reputable, and they often sell 
> more common, and make no mistake the A 28mm f2.8 isn't all that rare, lenses 
> for much less than you can get them on ebay.  They don't have any A 28mms in 
> stock right now, but they are likely to have more in the future.

Thanks for the heads up on prices, P.J. 

I haven't exactly been "haunting" KEH, but I'll start. In addition to the 
things you say about them, I'm right here in Atlanta where they are. If I want, 
I can save on shipping costs, though driving in Atlanta traffic can make 
shipping worth the cost.  

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RE: Trip to Brum?

2010-07-12 Thread Bob W
> >I can be there by midday on Saturday. Any other takers?
> 
> 
> Count me in.  I'll be in the area of Queenssitting around that time.
> My
> cousin, who delivers firkins of two-headed ducks ale for a living, has
> a run
> in the area that day.  She's headed for Kats Red,  but she said she'd
> run me
> to Birmingham first so I could meet you guys at midday.  Bring mugs
> because
> I'll be carrying an oversized flask of ale.  See ya then.  Cheers,
> Christine
> 

I had no idea two-headed ducks drank ale in such quantities. 

I think we may need to synchronise maps...

We will be here:
< http://www.bmag.org.uk/ >

not here:
< http://www.artsbma.org/ >

B


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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

2010-07-12 Thread P. J. Alling
You should haunt www.keh.com.  They're very reputable, and they often 
sell more common, and make no mistake the A 28mm f2.8 isn't all that 
rare, lenses for much less than you can get them on ebay.  They don't 
have any A 28mms in stock right now, but they are likely to have more in 
the future.


On 7/12/2010 12:32 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

On Jul 12, 2010, at 11:14, Eric Weir wrote:

   

I thought I sent a message to this effect to the list earlier, but it seems not.

Anyway, I was not able to be at home in the final hours of bidding on this lens 
on eBay. I left a maximum bid, but the other guy got it for $1.00 more-- $81. 
Apparently that was a steal, as the remaining lenses of this type on eBay are 
all in the $160 to $220 range. Is this what I should expect to pay?

 

I got mine off of EBay about 3 years ago for about $90.  $160-220 seems steep.

I've seen them on the PentaxForums marketplace for the "around $100" range as well.   
I've been on the hunt for an AF version of that same lens so that I'll have a small/light 
"party camera" with the K7.  Those tend to be about twice as expensive (around $200) if 
you can find them at all.

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Re: Spanish team has done it!

2010-07-12 Thread Jerry in Arizona
For some years I have been an on again off again soccer fan while playing 
and coaching American football.  But after watching this WC series I am now 
coninced that Soccer (futball) is a vastly superior GAME to American football.  
Congratulations to the Spanish team and all its supporters!

Jerry

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Thanks Boris and Ecke,

I never though I was going to see this happen...

Regards,

Jaume>>

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RE: Managing image files

2010-07-12 Thread Bob W
try Lightroom

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/



> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Managing image files
> 
> 
> I took my "new" *ist D to a community kitchen event yesterday and got
> my first set of serious images, i.e., when I wasn't just fooling around
> to see how the thing works. Judging from the images as displayed on the
> camera's LCD there may be a couple good ones among them.
> 
> I'd appreciate any advice folks here might have on what I gather is
> called "work flow." My limited experience managing film images on a
> computer has not generated a comfortable way of working. I have a
> MacBook, and I can definitely say I'm not real comfortable with iPhoto.
> At this point I find it very confusing. I'd like to have a way of
> sorting through images, naming them where appropriate, and categorizing
> and filing them before I turn them over to iPhoto or its ilk.
> 
> I recently encountered something called Photo Mechanic that looks like
> it would enable me to do what I want. I'm tempted to just go ahead and
> buy it, but I thought [1] I'd check it out here first. Anyone have any
> experience with. Anything else more or less in the same price range
> that you'd recommend? [2] Also whether what I want to do, as crudely as
> I've described it, makes sense.
> 
> In addition to iPhoto I have Photoshop elements, though at this point
> I'm not eager to get into editing. Too early in the learning curve.
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: Managing image files

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 12, 2010, at 11:44 AM, eckinator wrote:

> You may want to find someone entitled to buy for you a teacher/student
> edition of lightroom; they're sold at a 75% discount in Germany and it
> should be about the same in the US.

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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 12, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

> I got mine off of EBay about 3 years ago for about $90.  $160-220 seems steep.
> 
> I've seen them on the PentaxForums marketplace for the "around $100" range as 
> well.

Thanks, Charles. Wasn't aware of the PentaxForums marketplace. Thanks for 
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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

2010-07-12 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 12, 2010, at 11:14, Eric Weir wrote:

> 
> I thought I sent a message to this effect to the list earlier, but it seems 
> not.
> 
> Anyway, I was not able to be at home in the final hours of bidding on this 
> lens on eBay. I left a maximum bid, but the other guy got it for $1.00 more-- 
> $81. Apparently that was a steal, as the remaining lenses of this type on 
> eBay are all in the $160 to $220 range. Is this what I should expect to pay?
> 

I got mine off of EBay about 3 years ago for about $90.  $160-220 seems steep.

I've seen them on the PentaxForums marketplace for the "around $100" range as 
well.   I've been on the hunt for an AF version of that same lens so that I'll 
have a small/light "party camera" with the K7.  Those tend to be about twice as 
expensive (around $200) if you can find them at all.

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Looks like I'm joining the Brotherhood

2010-07-12 Thread Adam Maas
I just had a mint original 6x7 with a 105/2.4, left-hand grip and case
put aside at the local pusher. Just waiting on some Nikon kit I'm
selling to go to pay for it

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Re: PESO -- East Grand Avenue Bridge

2010-07-12 Thread Jack Davis
I'm sorry too, Peter.

Thanks,

Jack

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, P. J. Alling  wrote:

> From: P. J. Alling 
> Subject: Re: PESO -- East Grand Avenue Bridge
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 7:38 AM
> Sorry, Dropbox is a file
> hosting/backup site.  Since it's free if 
> someone hosts a virus on their share, intentional or
> unintentionally 
> some antivirus software blacklists the whole domain. 
> I really don't 
> have any control over that unfortunately.  Hopefully
> the management is 
> working on it now.  Unfortunately Norton won't remove
> their block until 
> they know it's been cleaned.
> 
> On 7/12/2010 9:17 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
> > I'm getting a Norton "site unsafe" warning, Peter. So
> didn't have a chance to enjoy the image. :(
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > --- On Sun, 7/11/10, P. J. Alling 
> wrote:
> >
> >    
> >> From: P. J. Alling
> >> Subject: PESO -- East Grand Avenue Bridge
> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> >> Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 8:58 PM
> >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20eastgrandavenuebridge.html
> >>
> >> Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA
> 28-200mm
> >> f3.8~5.6
> >>
> >> As usual comments are welcome but maybe be
> totally
> >> ignored.
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Re: Pentax-A SMC 28mm f/2.8 F2.8

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Weir

I thought I sent a message to this effect to the list earlier, but it seems not.

Anyway, I was not able to be at home in the final hours of bidding on this lens 
on eBay. I left a maximum bid, but the other guy got it for $1.00 more-- $81. 
Apparently that was a steal, as the remaining lenses of this type on eBay are 
all in the $160 to $220 range. Is this what I should expect to pay?

While I'm at it, did any other manufacturers produce lenses that are equivalent 
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PESO- a film photo

2010-07-12 Thread Bong Manayon
Christine,

Here's a b/w photo (shot with an MZ3 though, not an MX; Ilford not Kodak...).

http://bongmanayon.posterous.com/

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Re: Managing image files

2010-07-12 Thread eckinator
You may want to find someone entitled to buy for you a teacher/student
edition of lightroom; they're sold at a 75% discount in Germany and it
should be about the same in the US.
Cheers
Ecke

2010/7/12 Eric Weir :
>
> I took my "new" *ist D to a community kitchen event yesterday and got my 
> first set of serious images, i.e., when I wasn't just fooling around to see 
> how the thing works. Judging from the images as displayed on the camera's LCD 
> there may be a couple good ones among them.
>
> I'd appreciate any advice folks here might have on what I gather is called 
> "work flow." My limited experience managing film images on a computer has not 
> generated a comfortable way of working. I have a MacBook, and I can 
> definitely say I'm not real comfortable with iPhoto. At this point I find it 
> very confusing. I'd like to have a way of sorting through images, naming them 
> where appropriate, and categorizing and filing them before I turn them over 
> to iPhoto or its ilk.
>
> I recently encountered something called Photo Mechanic that looks like it 
> would enable me to do what I want. I'm tempted to just go ahead and buy it, 
> but I thought [1] I'd check it out here first. Anyone have any experience 
> with. Anything else more or less in the same price range that you'd 
> recommend? [2] Also whether what I want to do, as crudely as I've described 
> it, makes sense.
>
> In addition to iPhoto I have Photoshop elements, though at this point I'm not 
> eager to get into editing. Too early in the learning curve.
>
> Thanks,
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Re: PESO - SVT

2010-07-12 Thread eckinator
Nice =) IMHO your framing is just a wee bit on the tight side but I
like your composition a lot.
Quick additional comment about this shot
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/2876773651/in/set-72157607590047251/
The Isetta is not a threewheeler, it has four wheels, two each on a
wide front and a narrow rear axle. Because of this it was nicknamed in
Germany the "Schlaglochsuchgerät", i.e. "pothole searching device" -
you just don't miss them with a four track vehicle...
Cheers
Ecke

2010/7/12 Bruce Walker :
> More auto-detail pr0n: see at a Cruise on a late model Shelby Cobra Mustang
> ...
>
> http://is.gd/dp8FW
>
> K20D, DA* 16-50mm F2.8 @ 43mm, f/4.0, 1/350th, ISO 200.
> Handheld.
>
> Comments welcome!
>
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Managing image files

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Weir

I took my "new" *ist D to a community kitchen event yesterday and got my first 
set of serious images, i.e., when I wasn't just fooling around to see how the 
thing works. Judging from the images as displayed on the camera's LCD there may 
be a couple good ones among them.

I'd appreciate any advice folks here might have on what I gather is called 
"work flow." My limited experience managing film images on a computer has not 
generated a comfortable way of working. I have a MacBook, and I can definitely 
say I'm not real comfortable with iPhoto. At this point I find it very 
confusing. I'd like to have a way of sorting through images, naming them where 
appropriate, and categorizing and filing them before I turn them over to iPhoto 
or its ilk. 

I recently encountered something called Photo Mechanic that looks like it would 
enable me to do what I want. I'm tempted to just go ahead and buy it, but I 
thought [1] I'd check it out here first. Anyone have any experience with. 
Anything else more or less in the same price range that you'd recommend? [2] 
Also whether what I want to do, as crudely as I've described it, makes sense.

In addition to iPhoto I have Photoshop elements, though at this point I'm not 
eager to get into editing. Too early in the learning curve.

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Re: Intervals to video

2010-07-12 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 12, 2010, at 1:02 AM, eckinator wrote:

> A buddy of mine has written a timelapse tool for windows that will
> output to IIRC avi - would that be of any use?

It may.  In theory, one of my computers will boot into Windows XP, so if I 
can't find something else, I can do it that way.


> Cheers
> Ecke
> 
> 2010/7/11 Larry Colen :
>> Is there an easy, free, way to convert a bunch of photos taken with the 
>> intervalometer to video?
>> 
>> I'd probably want to show each frame for a second or two.
>> 
>> Preferably on Mac or Linux.
>> 
>> 
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Re: PESO - Mmmm, Columbian

2010-07-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele

frank theriault wrote:


On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 9:50 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
 


You should probably not let the cat drink coffee, Caffeine is no more deadly
to cats or dogs for that matter, than to humans, (something like 150mg/per
kilogram will will kill a human, and that's a /lot/ of coffee), but an
average cat only weighs about 12 pounds.  The cat is probably getting a
major rush...
   



I don't let Patches drink my coffee.   When I see her going for my cup
I grab the cup or shoo her off (hence no photos of her drinking my
coffee in the 14 years we've shared).  On this occasion my cup was
empty and she was trying to reach the few drops at the bottom (which I
don't think she was able to get to).

Thanks for the comment.

cheers,
frank

 


I think you scared us when you said she loves coffee!

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Re: Spanish team has done it!

2010-07-12 Thread Carlos R
Thanks everyone! I think this is a well deserved triumph for an 
excellent generation of football players.


Carlos

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Re: PESO: Bald Eagle

2010-07-12 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 12, 2010, at 9:53, Eric Weir wrote:

> 
> On Jul 11, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:
> 
>> I spent a long weekend up on Lake Vermilion here in Minnesota.  Lots of 
>> wildlife and water.  
>> 
>> I managed to see quite a few loons and bald eagles - including watching one 
>> eagle swoop down and snatch a fish out of the water just 30 feet from me.  
>> Very cool.   I must say that taking photos from a boat bobbing in the water, 
>> with the 80-200 in full-zoom is quite tricky."
> 
> I really like the "lightning in clouds" shots, Charles. I take it those 
> weren't taken from the boat.
> 

Thanks, Eric.  Yeah, that was 2-second delay with the camera on a bench or 
(later, when I found one in the cabin) on a tripod.  On the shore.  By the 
campfire.  With plenty of beer.  :-)  

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Re: PESO: Bald Eagle

2010-07-12 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 11, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

> I spent a long weekend up on Lake Vermilion here in Minnesota.  Lots of 
> wildlife and water.  
> 
> I managed to see quite a few loons and bald eagles - including watching one 
> eagle swoop down and snatch a fish out of the water just 30 feet from me.  
> Very cool.   I must say that taking photos from a boat bobbing in the water, 
> with the 80-200 in full-zoom is quite tricky."

I really like the "lightning in clouds" shots, Charles. I take it those weren't 
taken from the boat.

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Re: Trip to Brum?

2010-07-12 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W" 

To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 1:52 PM
Subject: RE: Trip to Brum?



I can be there by midday on Saturday. Any other takers?



Count me in.  I'll be in the area of Queenssitting around that time.  My 
cousin, who delivers firkins of two-headed ducks ale for a living, has a run 
in the area that day.  She's headed for Kats Red,  but she said she'd run me 
to Birmingham first so I could meet you guys at midday.  Bring mugs because 
I'll be carrying an oversized flask of ale.  See ya then.  Cheers, Christine






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Re: PESO - No Dogs Allowed

2010-07-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nice image!  The poor pup certainly looks left out in more ways than one.

Dan

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:40 AM, P. J. Alling
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> and I did.
>
> On 7/12/2010 6:40 AM, frank theriault wrote:
>>
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/07/no-dogs-allowed.html
>>
>> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank
>>
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Re: PESO: Bald Eagle

2010-07-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Charles Robinson wrote:


On Jul 12, 2010, at 6:04, Brian Walters wrote:
 


http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/vermilion/content/IMGP3237_large.html

Yeah, it's cropped a bit and sharpened a bit and was taken with a $40
lens.  Someday I'll get the 50-300 and will be happy.


It looks as if that bird means business!

Excellent under the circumstances.  Would it be worth doing some more
cropping? Perhaps turn it into a horizontal crop and lose most of the
dead tree.


Brian -
Funny, that - I took it in a portrait orientation so it never occurred to me to 
crop it otherwise.
Something like this?

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP3237.jpg

I do think it looks better.

-Charles


==
I like Brian's crop, too  You nailed the eagle so well,  and 
obviously just took off from that branch but in the best of all possible
workds it would be nice to see the tree over the to the right more and 
the bird against the blue sky... but I'm not a fan of tha much

photoshop fiddling either :)

ann



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Re: PESO - 2 street shotshttp://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/cell-phone-snaps/12420035_MC2ch/1/930797123_H2EmN/Medium

2010-07-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele


Madame RD wrote:


Le 11/07/10 19:11, Ann Sanfedele a écrit :



Bad Hair
(name the decade of the style for extra points :-) )

http://tinyurl.com/32e3l7g

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/cell-phone-snaps/12420035_MC2ch/1/930797123_H2EmN/Medium 




oops ! frothy hair from too much .. whatever  so fun ! we called 
that a sauercraut and that was in the 60's or later ?... can't remember .

dominique



You got it, Dominique  - the 60's   (sorry, ecke - but you were close 
and I hadn't thought about the WInehouse but wow, that applies!)  

Even back then it kinda said slut or trailer trash...  

Beehive was it...   and there was a news story I remember about someone 
who was severely injured from a spider bite as
one had decided it ws a great place for a nest.  

Thanks for all the comments..  


ann


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PESO - SVT

2010-07-12 Thread Bruce Walker
More auto-detail pr0n: see at a Cruise on a late model Shelby Cobra 
Mustang ...


http://is.gd/dp8FW

K20D, DA* 16-50mm F2.8 @ 43mm, f/4.0, 1/350th, ISO 200.
Handheld.

Comments welcome!

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Re: PESO - No Dogs Allowed

2010-07-12 Thread P. J. Alling

and I did.

On 7/12/2010 6:40 AM, frank theriault wrote:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/07/no-dogs-allowed.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank

   



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Re: PESO -- East Grand Avenue Bridge

2010-07-12 Thread P. J. Alling
Sorry, Dropbox is a file hosting/backup site.  Since it's free if 
someone hosts a virus on their share, intentional or unintentionally 
some antivirus software blacklists the whole domain.  I really don't 
have any control over that unfortunately.  Hopefully the management is 
working on it now.  Unfortunately Norton won't remove their block until 
they know it's been cleaned.


On 7/12/2010 9:17 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

I'm getting a Norton "site unsafe" warning, Peter. So didn't have a chance to 
enjoy the image. :(

Jack

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From: P. J. Alling
Subject: PESO -- East Grand Avenue Bridge
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 8:58 PM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20eastgrandavenuebridge.html

Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-200mm
f3.8~5.6

As usual comments are welcome but maybe be totally
ignored.

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Re: PESO 2010 - 124 - GDG

2010-07-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thank you all for the thoughts and comments!

On Monday, July 12, 2010, Brian Walters  wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 19:47 -0700, "Godfrey DiGiorgi" 
> wrote:
>> a photo for your enjoyment
>>
>>     http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/124-broken-leaf
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>
>
> That's exceptionally well composed.  I'm not sure why, but the
> horizontal crack at the bottom seems to balance the composition somehow.
>
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> Cheers
>
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Re: PESO - Al G at 92

2010-07-12 Thread P. J. Alling

On 7/12/2010 5:00 AM, eckinator wrote:

2010/7/7 Paul Sorenson:
   

Thanks to all who commented and/or looked.

Ecke - Re: your misreading...For his 90th we did a slide show using images
from various stages of his life and titled it "The Al G Show"
 

That's great =)
Ecke

   

Shouldn't that be, "That's gr-8"?

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Re: PESO: Bald Eagle

2010-07-12 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 08:42 -0500, "Charles Robinson" 
wrote:
> On Jul 12, 2010, at 6:04, Brian Walters wrote:
> >> 
> >> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/vermilion/content/IMGP3237_large.html
> >> 
> >> Yeah, it's cropped a bit and sharpened a bit and was taken with a $40
> >> lens.  Someday I'll get the 50-300 and will be happy.
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It looks as if that bird means business!
> > 
> > Excellent under the circumstances.  Would it be worth doing some more
> > cropping? Perhaps turn it into a horizontal crop and lose most of the
> > dead tree.
> > 
> 
> Brian -
> 
> Funny, that - I took it in a portrait orientation so it never occurred to
> me to crop it otherwise.
> 
> Something like this?
> 
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP3237.jpg
> 
> I do think it looks better.
> 


Yes - something like that. I'd be tempted to take even a bit more off
the bottom.  Maybe just above that dead branch on the bottom to the left
of the tree trunk.



Cheers

Brian

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