Re: On pun and fun
Anthony Farr wrote: > Sic transit gloria mundi. > > translation: My delivery van is in the shop for repairs. http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/15672899 Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On pun and fun
One of my favorite words is paronomasia. On Jul 18, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: > Sun Jul 18 17:36:56 CDT 2010 eckinator wrote: > >> 2010/7/19 Igor Roshchin : Nemo me im/pun/e lacessit. Now translate that with proper use of "pun" >>> >>> It means: >>> Nautilus will order you into the Thistle. >>> Igor >>> (sorry, my references sometimes tend to be too complicated) >> >> I'll order my thistle collection next time the moon is in the house of >> Uranus =P > ^^ > For the second part of the phrase: > > Sic transit gloria mundi. A friend once bought a used ambulance to tow his racecar. I suggested that he name it "Gloria Monday". > > (this might be even a "farther" reference based on astronomy/astrology > term when the moon is in the same house as some other planet) > > > When you get your thistle collection (it is simpler for unsuspecting > audeince): > semper ubi sub ubi Was that an attempt at a brief joke? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On pun and fun
On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:47 AM, Larry Colen wrote: >>> >>^^ >> For the second part of the phrase: >> >> Sic transit gloria mundi. > > > A friend once bought a used ambulance to tow his racecar. I suggested that > he name it "Gloria Monday". > One of my teammates towed his racecar with an old Ford Econoline, which got named "Crisco". Fortunately, I never had the misfortune of leaving any Irish lager in it. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML visit to Brum
On 7/18/2010 1:44 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote: I concur with Bob - a most enjoyable day. The McCurry retrospective was seriously high quality and the Birmingham art gallery well worth a visit. My DA* 16-50 2.8 is away having its AF motor replaced (out of warranty so costing GBP120) so I went prime for the day. The following were taken with a mix of FA 50/1.7, FA135/2.8 and my copy of the recently famous Pentax-A 28/2.8: http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/BrumPDML2010/ Chris I see you kept practicing the art of looking away with a smile and snapping a shot from the hip ;-). Most enjoyable gallery, Chris. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HCB at the Art Institute Chicago
That's one major reason for envy :-)... On 7/16/2010 6:47 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: FYI: July 25 - Oct 3. Should be good-nearly 300 photographs. Cheers, Christine http://www.artic.edu/aic/exhibitions/exhibition/cartierbressonmodern -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: iPad
On 7/17/2010 5:18 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: I quite like the look and feel of the iPad. But at this point, and into the future as far as I can see, it will not replace my laptop and so it would be an extra piece of gear to carry on my travels, not an alternative. Interestingly enough, Stan, after I got my android cell phone I completely stopped using my mini laptop. I used to do bedside reading from its screen or something like this. Now, I do it all from the cell phone. And moreso as it works well with my home WiFi network. Yes, I know - it is not good for the eyes, but anyway. I am thinking that if I had a pad of some kind at home and another at work (as a private tool) that would sync between themselves automatically - I'd be very happy camper. I wouldn't want to do photoediting with them (yet) but simple things such as e-mail, news, favorite web sites, ebooks, music, document viewing - that would be most useful. Effectively this is what happens now with my cell phone. It is just that I have to carry it with me and some things it still cannot do. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This changes everything.
Congratulations, Mike. Your life will never be the same again. Mine hasn't been. Twice ;-). Boris On 7/16/2010 12:36 AM, Michael Hamilton wrote: You may not remember me, but I am returning to this list. My photography has taken a back seat to a few things recently, but my inspiration seems to be returning. I just traded a FA43 for a DA* 16-50 (waiting for it to arrive). It's my first zoom lens in ages. (Currently using K-7, DA14, DA21 and soon the new DA*) My wife recently gave birth to our first daughter on June 19, Charlotte Elan Crocker Hamilton. While the photos are not all with a Pentax camera (mostly Panasonic LX3), here is a small gallery of her first few days at the hospital. This changes everything. http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/Charlotte Thanks for looking. Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
2 new cameras in Photokina
According to the reliable Spanish site quesabesde: http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/pentax-prepara-lanzamiento-dos-slr-photokina,1_6552 One between K-x and K-7 and the other above K-7. No more detail I am afraid. Still no FF though. Regards, Jaume -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina
Jaume Lahuerta wrote: > One between K-x and K-7 and the other above K-7. One above the K-7. Presumably with a Sony sensor. *sigh* Well, it had to happen, sooner or later. Guess I'll be kicking myself even harder, three times a day, for having bought this freak of a K-7. :-/ Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Full Geso of plowing demo shots
On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:44 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: > Hi Dave: I just did a quick eye-ball. These caught my eye. Looks like > you've some good pickings here and a good time was had by all. Cheers, > Christine > > . . . . > > http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2010-plowing/album/slides/_ZON8956.html . . . . This one, and others of this particular team, remind me of something that happened one spring as my brother and I were driving in the Amish country around Arthur, Illinois. We noticed a large hitch at the far end of the field. As they turned and came closer we could see it was a seven-horse hitch pulling a two-bottom riding moldboard plow -- the one in this photo is a disc plow, and the only one we'd ever seen was a two-horse hitch pulling a walking plow. As my brother raised his camera to get a shot of the team, the Amish farmer jumped off the plow, ran toward us waving his arms, "No, no. Please don't take a picture of me. You can take a picture of the team, but please don't take a picture of me." -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: iPad
> Interestingly enough, Stan, after I got my android cell phone I completely > stopped using my mini laptop. I used to do bedside reading from its screen or > something like this. Now, I do it all from the cell phone. And moreso as it > works well with my home WiFi network. > > Yes, I know - it is not good for the eyes, but anyway. > to hell with your eyes - it's not good for your soul! Taking a computer into a bedroom?! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: iPad
On 7/19/2010 7:54 AM, Bob W wrote:
Interestingly enough, Stan, after I got my android cell phone I completely
stopped using my mini laptop. I used to do bedside reading from its screen
or
something like this. Now, I do it all from the cell phone. And moreso as
it
works well with my home WiFi network.
Yes, I know - it is not good for the eyes, but anyway.
to hell with your eyes - it's not good for your soul! Taking a computer into
a bedroom?!
So much to say, and yet, is it really necessary?
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Re: iPad
I think this is a Mark. I find my iPod touch to be a very useful device. The iPad would be the same but much easier to use for Web access since the screen is nicer. Video, photos also nicer. I've used the "real" keyboard Apple sells and it works well for email. For everyday use this does most of what most people want which is why they are selling millions of them and it will be copied by many. It is fairly useless as a heavy duty working machine (photediting or long documents) but that's not what the bulk of computer time is used for these days. Paperback novels are not less useful than chemistry textbooks. (I've had both on a plane flight and I know which one gets used). I bet pornography is really great, which means that it will make every other system obselete. On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Cotty wrote: > > I'll forward this to William Robb in the outside chance you're killfiled. > > Then again, I may be too > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > -- http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - A Tasty Morsel
I like beavers but I've never seen a real one up close ;-)
Mark!
(I worked very hard to not phrase my response to look anything like this...)
On 7/18/2010 11:59 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
On 18/07/2010, frank theriault wrote:
I won't go into the long story, but suffice to say that I was
following a family of swans (two adults and three or four cygnets)
along a bank when they went into a quiet corner of an inlet. Then I
saw first one, then two beavers. After some time (and many shots) the
swans and one of the beavers left, and this fellow let me get closer
and closer. I'd quietly take a step, stop, take several photos, then
take another step until I got to within maybe ten feet.
I have lots of photos to go through, but this stands out as one of the
better ones:
http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/tasty-morsel.html
*ist D, Sigma 50-200mm f3.5 zoom, Manfrotto monopod.
Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
You're scarin' me Frank, did you come off your bike?
Seriously there's some great colour stuff coming from you these days,
this nature stuff is quite a different tack and you're doing very
nicely. I like beavers but I've never seen a real one up close ;-)
Cheers,
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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina
Finally some rumors to stimulate discussion. Oh, hell who'm I kidding,
old news really, just from a new source. The only thing I see as
different is I expected a K-7 replacement. I think Pentax has been
selling a lot of K-x cameras but not a lot of K-7 cameras. I expect the
new, (K-5?), was originally slated to replace the K-7 and will when K-7
camera stocks are sold out. So I guess I'm predicting deep discounts on
the K-7.
On 7/19/2010 7:04 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
According to the reliable Spanish site quesabesde:
http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/pentax-prepara-lanzamiento-dos-slr-photokina,1_6552
One between K-x and K-7 and the other above K-7. No more detail I am afraid.
Still no FF though.
Regards,
Jaume
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Re: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation
paul stenquist wrote: >I'm going to have to get that one. My dad retouched a lot of the >Life photos that were published between 1946 and 1966. Man, he must have been using a *really* early beta version of Photoshop! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation
On Jul 19, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: paul stenquist wrote: I'm going to have to get that one. My dad retouched a lot of the Life photos that were published between 1946 and 1966. Man, he must have been using a *really* early beta version of Photoshop! Acid and miniature tools on copper plates. His hands were permanently discolored. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina
On Jul 19, 2010, at 8:46 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Finally some rumors to stimulate discussion. Oh, hell who'm I
kidding, old news really, just from a new source. The only thing I
see as different is I expected a K-7 replacement. I think Pentax
has been selling a lot of K-x cameras but not a lot of K-7 cameras.
I expect the new, (K-5?), was originally slated to replace the K-7
and will when K-7 camera stocks are sold out. So I guess I'm
predicting deep discounts on the K-7.
Remember, the K7 wasn't marketed as a K20 replacement either.
"Replacements" aren't always a good marketing strategy. However, k20
production ceased long before the K7 hit the stores, and I suspect the
same thing will happen this time.
Paul
On 7/19/2010 7:04 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
According to the reliable Spanish site quesabesde:
http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/pentax-prepara-lanzamiento-dos-slr-photokina,1_6552
One between K-x and K-7 and the other above K-7. No more detail I
am afraid.
Still no FF though.
Regards,
Jaume
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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina
On Jul 19, 2010, at 7:33 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Jaume Lahuerta wrote: One between K-x and K-7 and the other above K-7. One above the K-7. Presumably with a Sony sensor. *sigh* Well, it had to happen, sooner or later. Guess I'll be kicking myself even harder, three times a day, for having bought this freak of a K-7. :-/ I won't be kicking myself, but I'll probably replace my K20 backup with the new camera at some point. The K7 continues to serve me very well, far better than any of the previous Pentax digitals I've owned. Paul Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HCB at the Art Institute Chicago
-- From: "Boris Liberman" Subject: Re: HCB at the Art Institute Chicago That's one major reason for envy :-)... We mistimed the PDML show. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Full Geso of plowing demo shots
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Eric Weir wrote: > > On Jul 18, 2010, at 6:04 PM, David J Brooks wrote: > >> Yes all of the participants are full time farmers. Some of these guys >> are in there 90's and still handle horse etc. > > But do they farm with horses? I thought I saw at least one Amish guy in your > photos. Probably he farms with horses. I was curious if there were any other. Sorry Eric, i misunderstood you i think. Not that I know of. This group travels all over to find the old equipment, restore it and try their hand at it. The "old boys" show up to tell 'em what they are doing wrong.:-) They also have old engines that they display along with the farm equipment at the local fairs. Dave > > -- > Eric Weir > Decatur, GA USA > eew...@bellsouth.net > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Full Geso of plowing demo shots
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: > Hi Dave: I just did a quick eye-ball. These caught my eye. Looks like > you've some good pickings here and a good time was had by all. Cheers, > Christine > > http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2010-plowing/album/slides/_ZON8938.html > > http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2010-plowing/album/slides/_ZON8956.html > > http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2010-plowing/album/slides/_ZON8960.html > > > I'd crop the bottom corn off. > http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2010-plowing/album/slides/_PHC0240.html > > I'd crop some of the sky off. > http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2010-plowing/album/slides/_ZON8867.html > > > > Thanks Christine. That corn harvester really gives me a hard time photo wise, hard to get an action shot with it. I like your crop ideas, just have to pick 3-4 for the contest. Dave Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Full Geso of plowing demo shots
On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:12 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > Sorry Eric, i misunderstood you i think. > > Not that I know of. > > This group travels all over to find the old equipment, restore it and > try their hand at it. > The "old boys" show up to tell 'em what they are doing wrong.:-) > They also have old engines that they display along with the farm > equipment at the local fairs. There are a few farmers here and there around the US who, in addition to the Amish, have chosen to farm with horses. Their costs are a whole hell of a lot lower, they can grown their own fuel, and they don't need as much land. Impacts on the environment, in contrast with industrialized agriculture, are positive. They grow a greater variety of crops -- oats, hay, and pasture in a addition to corn and soybeans -- and they can use animal and green manures instead of petroleum-derived fertilizers. I hope the rest of you will forgive me for engaging in off-topic reverie. I'll cut it out soon -- perhaps right now. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Full Geso of plowing demo shots
Eric Weir wrote: On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:12 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Sorry Eric, i misunderstood you i think. Not that I know of. This group travels all over to find the old equipment, restore it and try their hand at it. The "old boys" show up to tell 'em what they are doing wrong.:-) They also have old engines that they display along with the farm equipment at the local fairs. There are a few farmers here and there around the US who, in addition to the Amish, have chosen to farm with horses. Their costs are a whole hell of a lot lower, they can grown their own fuel, and they don't need as much land. Impacts on the environment, in contrast with industrialized agriculture, are positive. They grow a greater variety of crops -- oats, hay, and pasture in a addition to corn and soybeans -- and they can use animal and green manures instead of petroleum-derived fertilizers. I hope the rest of you will forgive me for engaging in off-topic reverie. I'll cut it out soon -- perhaps right now. Yeah, quit yer horsin' around. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On pun and fun
Mon Jul 19 04:47:47 CDT 2010 Larry Colen wrote: > > When you get your thistle collection (it is simpler for unsuspecting > > audeince): > > semper ubi sub ubi > > Was that an attempt at a brief joke? It was an old translation joke (not mine). See e.g. here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases:_S Translation: "always where under where" Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESOs - Hip-Hugging Boyfried and "Oh No"
Hey, that was my first thought at well. On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Richard D Bush wrote: > Bob, > > He well might be the bass player. He's holding her like he's ready to > pizzicato her. > Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Full Geso of plowing demo shots
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Eric Weir wrote: > I hope the rest of you will forgive me for engaging in off-topic reverie. > I'll cut it out soon -- perhaps right now. Its part of being the PDML, don't worry about it. Dave > -- > Eric Weir > Decatur, GA USA > eew...@bellsouth.net > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Full Geso of plowing demo shots
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > Eric Weir wrote: >> I hope the rest of you will forgive me for engaging in off-topic reverie. >> I'll cut it out soon -- perhaps right now. > > Yeah, quit yer horsin' around. Butt, its our mane topic. Dave > > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - hot diggitty dog
Good angle here. Dave On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 9:14 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11289671&size=lg > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Treeline
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Bob W wrote: > works for me, but I think the balance of the composition would be improved > by shifting the frame slightly to the right (or the contents to the left > within the frame). > > B I agree, nice shot none the less. Dave > >> -Original Message- >> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On >> Behalf Of Brian Walters >> Sent: 18 July 2010 13:11 >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: PESO - Treeline >> >> G'day all >> >> I like the look of these trees against the stormy sky but I'm not sure if > the >> image works. >> >> Comments and suggestions welcome. >> >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1287peso.html >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Brian >> >> Brian Walters >> Western Sydney Australia >> -- >> >> >> -- >> http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On pun and fun
On Jul 18, 2010, at 17:56, Igor Roshchin wrote: > Sun Jul 18 17:36:56 CDT 2010 eckinator wrote: > >> 2010/7/19 Igor Roshchin : Nemo me im/pun/e lacessit. Now translate that with proper use of "pun" >>> >>> It means: >>> Nautilus will order you into the Thistle. >>> Igor >>> (sorry, my references sometimes tend to be too complicated) >> >> I'll order my thistle collection next time the moon is in the house of >> Uranus =P > ^^ > For the second part of the phrase: > > Sic transit gloria mundi. > Gloria got sick on the bus on Monday? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Full Geso of plowing demo shots
> There are a few farmers here and there around the US who, in addition to > the Amish, have chosen to farm with horses. Their costs are a whole hell of a > lot lower, they can grown their own fuel, and they don't need as much land. > > Impacts on the environment, in contrast with industrialized agriculture, are > positive. They grow a greater variety of crops -- oats, hay, and pasture in a > addition to corn and soybeans -- and they can use animal and green manures > instead of petroleum-derived fertilizers. damn hippies - probably all growin' marijuana and free love too. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - hot diggitty dog
P N Stenquist wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11289671&size=lg Don't know whether to laugh or groan ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Boris PESO #32 - Sabra Sport
Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-32-sabra-sport.html Please be brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESO #32 - Sabra Sport
Enticing! Makes me want to see more of the Sabre and less of the background. Jack --- On Mon, 7/19/10, Boris Liberman wrote: > From: Boris Liberman > Subject: Boris PESO #32 - Sabra Sport > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 10:31 AM > Hi! > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-32-sabra-sport.html > > Please be brutal and honest. > > Boris > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On pun and fun
> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:17:58 -0400 (EDT) > From: Igor Roshchin > > Mon Jul 19 04:47:47 CDT 2010 Larry Colen wrote: > > > > When you get your thistle collection (it is simpler for unsuspecting > > > audeince): > > > semper ubi sub ubi > > > > Was that an attempt at a brief joke? > > It was an old translation joke (not mine). > > See e.g. here: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases:_S > Translation: > "always where under where" > Oops, I was still slowly waking up when I failed to see Larry's pun. And Larry was very polite not to point it out publicly. :-) I guess it's what you describe as He briefed me in private. :-) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Help ... advice on m42 extension tubes
Hi all I was perusing the pentax forum marketplace and saw an add for pentax m42 extension tubes for $15. They seem to include 12, 20, 36mm. Here's a photo: http://bkr.smugmug.com/Other/PhotoGear/11652557_WLPQY#821679568_6HGn4-A-LB I am clueluess about extension tubes but have heard plenty of people say they use them for doing macro work. I'd like to have the ability to play around and do some macro stuff. Is this an appropriate set? Good price? Are there limitations I should be aware of? I'll be mounting them to my k-x via the pentax m42 adapter. Someday maybe I'll mount them to a spotmatic. Would I be way better off getting a set up k-mount tubes? Thanks! Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PDML visit to Brum
Boris Liberman wrote > On 7/18/2010 1:44 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote: > > I concur with Bob - a most enjoyable day. The McCurry retrospective > was > > seriously high quality and the Birmingham art gallery well worth a > visit. > > > > My DA* 16-50 2.8 is away having its AF motor replaced (out of > warranty so > > costing GBP120) so I went prime for the day. The following were taken > with a > > mix of FA 50/1.7, FA135/2.8 and my copy of the recently famous > Pentax-A > > 28/2.8: > > http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/BrumPDML2010/ > > > > Chris > > I see you kept practicing the art of looking away with a smile and > snapping a shot from the hip ;-). > > Most enjoyable gallery, Chris. > > Boris Thanks Boris. I used the technique in the Art Institute in Chicago and am close to perfecting it in places where you're not supposed to take photos... Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO Goulds
Rob Studdert wrote: > Sent: 19 July 2010 04:36 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: PESO Goulds > > On 18/07/2010, Chris Mitchell wrote: > > > That's not a bookshop, that's the inside of Christine and Darrel's > > apartment! > > LOL, I hope not Chris, Goulds looks more like a fire hazard than a > bookshop for the most part. ;-) > Trust me. I've seen it in person :=) Sadly (or, rather, happily) we were having such a great time that we all forgot to take photographs! Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On pun and fun
On Jul 19, 2010, at 11:10 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: >> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:17:58 -0400 (EDT) >> From: Igor Roshchin >> >> Mon Jul 19 04:47:47 CDT 2010 Larry Colen wrote: >> When you get your thistle collection (it is simpler for unsuspecting audeince): semper ubi sub ubi >>> >>> Was that an attempt at a brief joke? >> >> It was an old translation joke (not mine). >> >> See e.g. here: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases:_S >> Translation: >> "always where under where" >> > > Oops, I was still slowly waking up when I failed to see Larry's pun. > And Larry was very polite not to point it out publicly. :-) > I guess it's what you describe as > He briefed me in private. Depends. > :-) > > Igor > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Full Geso of plowing demo shots
On Jul 19, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Bob W wrote: >> There are a few farmers here and there around the US who, in addition to >> the Amish, have chosen to farm with horses. Their costs are a whole hell > of a >> lot lower, they can grown their own fuel, and they don't need as much > land. >> >> Impacts on the environment, in contrast with industrialized agriculture, > are >> positive. They grow a greater variety of crops -- oats, hay, and pasture > in a >> addition to corn and soybeans -- and they can use animal and green manures >> instead of petroleum-derived fertilizers. > > damn hippies - probably all growin' marijuana and free love too. Yeah, if they turn there noses up at the wonders of science, industry, and capital, must be sumpthin wrong with 'em. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Full Geso of plowing demo shots
On Jul 19, 2010, at 12:08 PM, David J Brooks wrote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> Eric Weir wrote: > >>> I hope the rest of you will forgive me for engaging in off-topic reverie. >>> I'll cut it out soon -- perhaps right now. >> >> Yeah, quit yer horsin' around. > > Butt, its our mane topic. When I first signed-on to this group I was stunned by the number of posts it generated. I've come to see that it's really a pretty small group with a lot of humor -- some of it kinda corny -- going back and forth. Sincerely, I think I'm done with horse farming -- here, that is. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Monaco II
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012 As always... :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Manually focusing on the wrong "sharp edge"?
I was photographing a friend playing in a small club in Capitola the other night. When I reviewed my photos, I found that an awful lot of them were focused on sharp edges in front of the musician: The tip jar, drum kit, microphone etc. I understand how this happens with autofocus. The camera is too stupid to know what to focus on and focuses on the sharp edge. What I don't understand is why this happens on manual focus. *I* should know better. One challenge that I have in low light is actually seeing the line of the split prism to try and line that up on the musician. Especially musicians that tend to move around a lot. As such, I may rely a lot more on the microprism ring, and wonder if I just focus until I see whatever is in that ring come into focus, and not notice that it's not actually the subject that I'm trying to photograph. More a case of my brain saying "something is sharp, press the shutter". I'm curious if other people have this problem when manually focusing, and what they do to fix it. I got what I thought was an amusing compliment on my dancing that night. I had a rather nice slow blues dance with an attractive young lady. Afterwards, she said in a rather husky voice "I need a cigarette". Unfortunately, she was married. Even worse, her husband doesn't share. I did get a couple shots of the lead singer which turned out pretty well: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4807504309/in/set-72157624409188927/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4808124360/in/set-72157624409188927/ In the second one Amy Lou isn't as sharp as I'd like, but I do like the way the composition worked out with Gary (the bass player) in the background. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Manually focusing on the wrong "sharp edge"?
[...] > I'm curious if other people have this problem when manually focusing, and > what they do to fix it. > I always found it easier to use a plain matte screen, depending on which focal length I was using. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Monaco II
And, as always.:-) Dave 2010/7/19 Ralf R. Radermacher : > http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012 > > As always... :-) > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Web : http://www.fotoralf.de > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Manually focusing on the wrong "sharp edge"?
On Jul 19, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Bob W wrote: > [...] >> I'm curious if other people have this problem when manually focusing, and >> what they do to fix it. >> > > I always found it easier to use a plain matte screen, depending on which > focal length I was using. Please explain how focal length affects it. Do you find the difference between in focus and out of focus too subtle on a wider lens? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESO #32 - Sabra Sport
I like the lights reflecting on the car. Dave On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Hi! > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-32-sabra-sport.html > > Please be brutal and honest. > > Boris > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Pinhole Camera to Image New Worlds
http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/1226/pinhole-camera-to-image-new-worlds -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESO #32 - Sabra Sport
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:31:23 +0300 Boris Liberman wrote: > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-32-sabra-sport.html > > Please be brutal and honest. I am not a car buff but this is a lovely image. only issue for me is the yellow blot that draws too much attention. I am a fan of shiny red and this does that magnificently. -- "Love" is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Pinhole Camera to Image New Worlds
Lots of warnings about trojan from my virus scan on this one... On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/1226/pinhole-camera-to-image-new-worlds > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Manually focusing on the wrong "sharp edge"?
On Jul 19, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I was photographing a friend playing in a small club in Capitola the other night. When I reviewed my photos, I found that an awful lot of them were focused on sharp edges in front of the musician: The tip jar, drum kit, microphone etc. I understand how this happens with autofocus. The camera is too stupid to know what to focus on and focuses on the sharp edge. What I don't understand is why this happens on manual focus. *I* should know better. One challenge that I have in low light is actually seeing the line of the split prism to try and line that up on the musician. Especially musicians that tend to move around a lot. As such, I may rely a lot more on the microprism ring, and wonder if I just focus until I see whatever is in that ring come into focus, and not notice that it's not actually the subject that I'm trying to photograph. More a case of my brain saying "something is sharp, press the shutter". I'm curious if other people have this problem when manually focusing, and what they do to fix it. I simply use a plain matte screen and pick the spot on which I want to focus -- frequently an eye. I find that split prisms are a distraction for people pics. On my Leica rangefinder, I'm forced to align split images, but I still target my spot, and judge the alignment as best I can. Targeting the point of focus is the most important step. Paul I got what I thought was an amusing compliment on my dancing that night. I had a rather nice slow blues dance with an attractive young lady. Afterwards, she said in a rather husky voice "I need a cigarette". Unfortunately, she was married. Even worse, her husband doesn't share. I did get a couple shots of the lead singer which turned out pretty well: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4807504309/in/set-72157624409188927/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4808124360/in/set-72157624409188927/ In the second one Amy Lou isn't as sharp as I'd like, but I do like the way the composition worked out with Gary (the bass player) in the background. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Pinhole Camera to Image New Worlds
That is simply silly Dan On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Lots of warnings about trojan from my virus scan on this one... > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Daniel J. Matyola > wrote: >> http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/1226/pinhole-camera-to-image-new-worlds >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Manually focusing on the wrong "sharp edge"?
More reason to hate split-image and micro-prism focusing aids. I use the plain matte screen when manually focusing. -- Christian - http://404notfound.blogspot.com http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:24:11PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: > I was photographing a friend playing in a small club in Capitola the other > night. When I reviewed my photos, I found that an awful lot of them were > focused on sharp edges in front of the musician: > The tip jar, drum kit, microphone etc. > > I understand how this happens with autofocus. The camera is too stupid to > know what to focus on and focuses on the sharp edge. What I don't understand > is why this happens on manual focus. *I* should know better. > > One challenge that I have in low light is actually seeing the line of the > split prism to try and line that up on the musician. Especially musicians > that tend to move around a lot. As such, I may rely a lot more on the > microprism ring, and wonder if I just focus until I see whatever is in that > ring come into focus, and not notice that it's not actually the subject that > I'm trying to photograph. More a case of my brain saying "something is > sharp, press the shutter". > > I'm curious if other people have this problem when manually focusing, and > what they do to fix it. > > I got what I thought was an amusing compliment on my dancing that night. I > had a rather nice slow blues dance with an attractive young lady. Afterwards, > she said in a rather husky voice "I need a cigarette". Unfortunately, she was > married. Even worse, her husband doesn't share. > > I did get a couple shots of the lead singer which turned out pretty well: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4807504309/in/set-72157624409188927/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4808124360/in/set-72157624409188927/ > In the second one Amy Lou isn't as sharp as I'd like, but I do like the way > the composition worked out with Gary (the bass player) in the background. > > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Christian - http://404notfound.blogspot.com http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Manually focusing on the wrong "sharp edge"?
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:43:44PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Jul 19, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Bob W wrote: > > > [...] > >> I'm curious if other people have this problem when manually focusing, and > >> what they do to fix it. > >> > > > > I always found it easier to use a plain matte screen, depending on which > > focal length I was using. > > Please explain how focal length affects it. > > Do you find the difference between in focus and out of focus too subtle on a > wider lens? > I think he might mean that for longer focal lengths you are generally using smaller maximum apertures and from what i understand and have observed, the split-image thingies tend to black out at anything above f4. Really, a plain matte screen is the best tool for manually focusing in my opinion especially in low-light situations. -- Christian - http://404notfound.blogspot.com http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: HCB at the Art Institute Chicago
William Robb wrote > -- > From: "Boris Liberman" > > Subject: Re: HCB at the Art Institute Chicago > > > That's one major reason for envy :-)... > > > > We mistimed the PDML show. > > William Robb > No we didn't; we saw the excellent Eggleston exhibition... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Pinhole Camera to Image New Worlds
Posted 9/30/04 ? Doesn't seem to me like the concept has much in the way of "pinhole" (as we know it) going on with it. For those interested in more: http://newworlds.colorado.edu/documents/SPIE_668716.pdf http://newworlds.colorado.edu/docs/documents/NewWorldsDiscovererOcculterPerformance-AmyLo.pdf Not a lot has been written about the New World Imager recently. Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Sigma 8-16mm zoom for Pentax
http://photography.bhinsights.com/content/sigma-8-16mmf45-56-dc-hsm-insanely-wide-angle-zoom.html Not very fast, but oh so wide. Would love to see some full-res sample shots. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 8-16mm zoom for Pentax
Sigma 8-16mm f/4.5-5.6 DC HSM Flickr group (127 members): http://www.flickr.com/groups/1381...@n21/ Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Manually focusing on the wrong "sharp edge"?
Larry, I may have missed this, but do you use "spot" focus? Do you use "S" mode wherein you can hold focus and re-compose? For that matter, I don't even know what you were shooting with. :-C Jack --- On Mon, 7/19/10, P N Stenquist wrote: > From: P N Stenquist > Subject: Re: Manually focusing on the wrong "sharp edge"? > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 1:20 PM > > On Jul 19, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > I was photographing a friend playing in a small club > in Capitola the other night. When I reviewed my photos, I > found that an awful lot of them were focused on sharp edges > in front of the musician: > > The tip jar, drum kit, microphone etc. > > > > I understand how this happens with autofocus. The > camera is too stupid to know what to focus on and focuses on > the sharp edge. What I don't understand is why this > happens on manual focus. *I* should know better. > > > > One challenge that I have in low light is actually > seeing the line of the split prism to try and line that up > on the musician. Especially musicians that tend to move > around a lot. As such, I may rely a lot more on the > microprism ring, and wonder if I just focus until I see > whatever is in that ring come into focus, and not notice > that it's not actually the subject that I'm trying to > photograph. More a case of my brain saying "something > is sharp, press the shutter". > > > > I'm curious if other people have this problem when > manually focusing, and what they do to fix it. > > > > I simply use a plain matte screen and pick the spot on > which I want to focus -- frequently an eye. I find that > split prisms are a distraction for people pics. On my Leica > rangefinder, I'm forced to align split images, but I still > target my spot, and judge the alignment as best I can. > Targeting the point of focus is the most important step. > Paul > > > > I got what I thought was an amusing compliment on my > dancing that night. I had a rather nice slow blues > dance with an attractive young lady. Afterwards, she said in > a rather husky voice "I need a cigarette". Unfortunately, > she was married. Even worse, her husband doesn't share. > > > > I did get a couple shots of the lead singer which > turned out pretty well: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4807504309/in/set-72157624409188927/ > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4808124360/in/set-72157624409188927/ > > In the second one Amy Lou isn't as sharp as I'd > like, but I do like the way the composition worked out > with Gary (the bass player) in the background. > > > > > > -- > > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com > sent from i4est > > > > > > > > > > > > --PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > > > --PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Help ... advice on m42 extension tubes
Hi Sam, IMO you'd be better off with PK tubes as they transmit aperture, lens data and in some rare instances even AF (the Kenko Uniplus Pz-AF 25 mm, also sold under Soligor and Bower (IIRC) brand). There is also a helical, i.e. adjustable in length, extension tube from Pentax and then there are also bellows which do much the same as an adjustable extension tube, some (Novoflex et al.) even transmit aperture. Generally speaking, an extension tube will move a lens farther away from the sensor/film plane, thus causing it to lose infinity focus in most cases and at the same time increasing its macro abilities. This works well with fast primes but also with other lenses. Another neat trick is to reverse a lens by putting a K mount adaptor on the filter thread. Any questions, feel free to ask. I'm also selling a bunch of this stuff so feel free to inquire about that, too. Cheers Ecke 2010/7/19 Sam L : > Hi all > > I was perusing the pentax forum marketplace and saw an add for pentax > m42 extension tubes for $15. > They seem to include 12, 20, 36mm. > > Here's a photo: > http://bkr.smugmug.com/Other/PhotoGear/11652557_WLPQY#821679568_6HGn4-A-LB > > I am clueluess about extension tubes but have heard plenty of people > say they use them for doing macro work. > I'd like to have the ability to play around and do some macro stuff. > Is this an appropriate set? Good price? Are there limitations I > should be aware of? > > I'll be mounting them to my k-x via the pentax m42 adapter. Someday > maybe I'll mount them to a spotmatic. > Would I be way better off getting a set up k-mount tubes? > > Thanks! > Sam > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Help ... advice on m42 extension tubes
Sam, That set is OK for using M42 lenses either on screwmount and K-bayonet cameras (via K adapter). A k-mount set is required for using K-bayonet lenses on K-bayonet cameras. What's the price? Dario - Original Message - From: "Sam L" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 8:47 PM Subject: Help ... advice on m42 extension tubes Hi all I was perusing the pentax forum marketplace and saw an add for pentax m42 extension tubes for $15. They seem to include 12, 20, 36mm. Here's a photo: http://bkr.smugmug.com/Other/PhotoGear/11652557_WLPQY#821679568_6HGn4-A-LB I am clueluess about extension tubes but have heard plenty of people say they use them for doing macro work. I'd like to have the ability to play around and do some macro stuff. Is this an appropriate set? Good price? Are there limitations I should be aware of? I'll be mounting them to my k-x via the pentax m42 adapter. Someday maybe I'll mount them to a spotmatic. Would I be way better off getting a set up k-mount tubes? Thanks! Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 8-16mm zoom for Pentax
Seeing those images (some of them are really inspiring) made me considering this lens. I was not aware of its existence before. Thank you, Paul and Darren for the information. I am curious how the close-up shots of people (into-your-face type) would look with this lens with appropriate angle (I don't quite like how it is done here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/poorhumble/4722148313/ ) If anybody has/knows examples of such shots done with this lens (8mm on APS), I'd appreciate those. Igor Mon Jul 19 15:55:28 CDT 2010 P N Stenquist wrote: > http://photography.bhinsights.com/content/sigma-8-16mmf45-56-dc-hsm-insanely-wide-angle-zoom.html > > Not very fast, but oh so wide. Would love to see some full-res sample > shots. Mon Jul 19 15:58:51 CDT 2010 CheekyGeek wrote: > Sigma 8-16mm f/4.5-5.6 DC HSM Flickr group (127 members): > http://www.flickr.com/groups/1381...@n21/ > > Darren Addy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Help ... advice on m42 extension tubes
I agree with the eckinator: You basically get what you pay for in the way of convenience. If you are interested in getting into macro inexpensively, and you have m42 lenses to stick on the m42 extension tubes this is certainly an inexpensive way to get started. If you are using an external flash pointing down at your subject, you'll just need a little testing to figure out your exposure for various f-stops & extensions. A reverse ring is also a nice inexpensive way to start playing with macro. Another fairly low-cost option is getting a good quality achromat for close-up, if not macro, shots. I recommend getting a good book on the subject: John Shaw's "Close-ups In Nature" is HIGHLY recommended. http://www.amazon.com/Shaws-Closeups-Nature-Practical-Photography/dp/0817440526/ Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: HCB at the Art Institute Chicago
> > > > > That's one major reason for envy :-)... > > > > > > > We mistimed the PDML show. > > > > William Robb > > > No we didn't; we saw the excellent Eggleston exhibition... > Eggleston is better than Cartier-Bresson, but not as good as McCurry. Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Manually focusing on the wrong "sharp edge"?
> > > [...] > > >> I'm curious if other people have this problem when manually > > >> focusing, and what they do to fix it. > > >> > > > > > > I always found it easier to use a plain matte screen, depending on > > > which focal length I was using. > > > > Please explain how focal length affects it. > > > > Do you find the difference between in focus and out of focus too subtle on > a wider lens? > > > > I think he might mean that for longer focal lengths you are generally using > smaller maximum apertures and from what i understand and have observed, > the split-image thingies tend to black out at anything above f4. Really, a plain > matte screen is the best tool for manually focusing in my opinion especially in > low-light situations. exactly so -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Help ... advice on m42 extension tubes
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 5:46 PM, CheekyGeek wrote: > I agree with the eckinator: You basically get what you pay for in the > way of convenience. > If you are interested in getting into macro inexpensively, and you > have m42 lenses to stick on the m42 extension tubes this is certainly > an inexpensive way to get started. If you are using an external flash > pointing down at your subject, you'll just need a little testing to > figure out your exposure for various f-stops & extensions. > > A reverse ring is also a nice inexpensive way to start playing with > macro. Another fairly low-cost option is getting a good quality > achromat for close-up, if not macro, shots. > > I recommend getting a good book on the subject: John Shaw's "Close-ups > In Nature" is HIGHLY recommended. > http://www.amazon.com/Shaws-Closeups-Nature-Practical-Photography/dp/0817440526/ Price was $15, which seemed silly cheap. But I'll look into other alternatives instead. Thanks for the fast reponses! --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Manually focusing on the wrong "sharp edge"?
Looked at your photos ... My one advice: get closer, frame tighter. :-) > ... I'm curious if other people have this problem when manually focusing, and > what they do to fix it. .. I see I'm not alone in my preference for plain matte fresnel focusing screens. ;-) Microprism and split prism focusing aids are usually distractions in SLR viewfinders, for me. I always changed my focusing screen to a simple, matte fresnel screen (with horizontal/vertical reference lines preferably) when possible. Longer lenses are easier to focus because when wide open the in-focus zone is shallow; short lenses are where focusing aids can help most. With any lens, good crisp contrast when wide open is the biggest aid to manual focusing, regardless of focusing screen, lens speed or focal length. Beyond that, it's a matter of skill through lots of practice. I find today that I still prefer manual focusing over any autofocus system on any SLR camera I've tried, and I've found that when I manual focus my "hit it on the nose rate" is always much better than when I allow the AF system to do its thing. Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Olympus, Panasonic doesn't matter what the brand. Give me a good, contrasty lens and a clean focusing screen: it will do better than most AF systems. The EVF in the G1 is no exception, except that it makes nailing critical manual focus even easier than any of the optical reflex focusing systems I've used. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Help ... advice on m42 extension tubes
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Sam L wrote: > I was perusing the pentax forum marketplace and saw an add for pentax > m42 extension tubes for $15. > They seem to include 12, 20, 36mm. > > Here's a photo: > http://bkr.smugmug.com/Other/PhotoGear/11652557_WLPQY#821679568_6HGn4-A-LB > > I am clueluess about extension tubes but have heard plenty of people > say they use them for doing macro work. > I'd like to have the ability to play around and do some macro stuff. > Is this an appropriate set? Good price? Are there limitations I > should be aware of? > > I'll be mounting them to my k-x via the pentax m42 adapter. Someday > maybe I'll mount them to a spotmatic. > Would I be way better off getting a set up k-mount tubes? The real question, Sam, is "What lenses are you going to use the extension tubes with? What sorts of subjects do you intend to photograph?" There's no point to buying M42 threaded extension tubes if your lenses are all Pentax K bayonet mount. Extension tubes work best with symmetrical and mild telephoto lens designs. I highly recommend reading John Shaw's excellent book "Close-ups In Nature" before buying any macro equipment. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Help ... advice on m42 extension tubes
On 19/07/10 22:58, Sam L wrote: r subject, you'll just need a little testing to > figure out your expo TBH If you just want to have a play with Macro these will be fine. Personally when I do Macro it is generally a pretty controlled setup, in those cases manual tubes with manual lenses are fine, just use the green button or experiment to get the exposure right. It only takes a few test shots. If you are expecting to do shots that require faster setup.. perhaps insects on flowers then K mount tubes with all the metering as other have suggested will be best. This one was taken with manual tubes and an old soviet lens on my DL. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/539150689/ HTH Drew. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Monaco II
I have Ralph on my short list of PDML dudes I'd love to go shooting with. Happily, I've already ticked several names off that list, but there are many others. Cory On 7/19/2010 3:23 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012 As always... :-) Ralf No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3014 - Release Date: 07/18/10 14:35:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Treeline
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 22:49 -0500, "Christine Aguila" wrote: > Like you, Brian, I like the trees against the stormy sky, but the > foreground > grass is strong and distracts to my eye. Cheers, Christine > Thanks Christine (also Dan, Dave, Bob). On the original, the grass was very dark and featureless so I tried to bring out some detail with a selective levels adjustment layer in Photoshop. I may have overdone it Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ > > - Original Message - > From: "Brian Walters" > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:11 AM > Subject: PESO - Treeline > > > > G'day all > > > > I like the look of these trees against the stormy sky but I'm not sure > > if the image works. > > > > Comments and suggestions welcome. > > > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1287peso.html > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Brian > > > > Brian Walters > > Western Sydney Australia > > -- > > > > > > -- > > http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Manually focusing on the wrong "sharp edge"?
On Jul 19, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Looked at your photos ... My one advice: get closer, frame tighter. :-) I couldn't exactly get up "on stage" with the band. Though I could drop some of them tighter. > >> ... I'm curious if other people have this problem when manually focusing, >> and what they do to fix it. .. > > I see I'm not alone in my preference for plain matte fresnel focusing > screens. ;-) Interesting, because I found the screens that came with my Pentaxes nearly useless for manual focusing. > > Microprism and split prism focusing aids are usually distractions in > SLR viewfinders, for me. I always changed my focusing screen to a > simple, matte fresnel screen (with horizontal/vertical reference lines > preferably) when possible. Longer lenses are easier to focus because > when wide open the in-focus zone is shallow; short lenses are where > focusing aids can help most. With any lens, good crisp contrast when > wide open is the biggest aid to manual focusing, regardless of > focusing screen, lens speed or focal length. That may be one reason I like my FA77 so much. > > Beyond that, it's a matter of skill through lots of practice. I do try to practice, and to practice different techniques. > The EVF in the G1 is no exception, except that it makes nailing > critical manual focus even easier than any of the optical reflex > focusing systems I've used. Interestingly I found that manual focus on my FZ-50 to be nearly impossible to get right. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Help ... advice on m42 extension tubes
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:47 -0400, "Sam L" wrote: > Hi all > > I was perusing the pentax forum marketplace and saw an add for pentax > m42 extension tubes for $15. > They seem to include 12, 20, 36mm. > > Here's a photo: > http://bkr.smugmug.com/Other/PhotoGear/11652557_WLPQY#821679568_6HGn4-A-LB > > I am clueluess about extension tubes but have heard plenty of people > say they use them for doing macro work. > I'd like to have the ability to play around and do some macro stuff. > Is this an appropriate set? Good price? Are there limitations I > should be aware of? > > I'll be mounting them to my k-x via the pentax m42 adapter. Someday > maybe I'll mount them to a spotmatic. > Would I be way better off getting a set up k-mount tubes? Not if you also want to use them on a Spotmatic. I pretty much agree with what Ecke has said but these are cheap enough for playing around with and are probably worth getting for that reason. If you decide you want to persist with macro, get a K mount set or a dedicated macro lens later. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Goulds
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:46 +1000, "Rob Studdert" wrote: > Hi Team, > > I've spent the week juggling international guests, work and general > household duties whilst attempting to (unsuccessfully so far) fend off > a nasty cough/cold. I did however manage to shoot more photos than I > have for a while, mostly using my lately acquired Canon S90 as it now > resides pretty much full time in my back pocket (and it's not looking > like a banana yet). > > As has become habitual for me of late I have a new pano to share, it's > the view down the last aisle of Gould's Book Shop in Newtown, the > place has been as pictured as long as I can remember, Bob Gould the > owner is quite a character. > > The image consists of three in camera jpgs shot hand held with my S90 > @ 6mm F2, 1/13, ISO 80, auto-focus, auto-exposure, auto-WB, zero > exposure comp and it was assembled using Autopano rendered in a > rectilinear projection. > > http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~aglcnews/temp/Pano-IMGS00440.jpg > (the full res file is ~20MP ;-) > > http://www.gouldsbooks.com.au/ > > Hope you enjoy. Goulds is a real institution in Sydney. I remember when the shop was in George Street just down from Town Hall station. I always drop in when I'm in Newtown - you never know what gem you'll come across. Equally, given the masses of books stacked on top of each other, you never know what gem you missed either. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On pun and fun
On 7/19/2010 3:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
On Jul 19, 2010, at 11:10 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:17:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: Igor Roshchin
Mon Jul 19 04:47:47 CDT 2010 Larry Colen wrote:
When you get your thistle collection (it is simpler for unsuspecting
audeince):
semper ubi sub ubi
Was that an attempt at a brief joke?
It was an old translation joke (not mine).
See e.g. here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases:_S
Translation:
"always where under where"
Oops, I was still slowly waking up when I failed to see Larry's pun.
And Larry was very polite not to point it out publicly. :-)
I guess it's what you describe as
He briefed me in private.
Depends.
At least you didn't debrief him...
:-)
Igor
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Re: Full Geso of plowing demo shots
On 7/19/2010 12:16 PM, Bob W wrote:
There are a few farmers here and there around the US who, in addition to
the Amish, have chosen to farm with horses. Their costs are a whole hell
of a
lot lower, they can grown their own fuel, and they don't need as much
land.
Impacts on the environment, in contrast with industrialized agriculture,
are
positive. They grow a greater variety of crops -- oats, hay, and pasture
in a
addition to corn and soybeans -- and they can use animal and green manures
instead of petroleum-derived fertilizers.
damn hippies - probably all growin' marijuana and free love too.
About that free love, where would you purchase the seeds...
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Re: OT: Pinhole Camera to Image New Worlds
On 7/19/2010 3:59 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/1226/pinhole-camera-to-image-new-worlds
Avast tells me that this web site tried to inject a Trojan, sort of
appropriate for a Biological web site...
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Re: The Great Life Photographers--a book recommendation
On 2010-07-18 22:29 , Christine Aguila wrote: If you're a serious book person, always best to build your own or have them built. i use elfa standards and brackets, then lay narrow hollow core doors (such as from closet "accordion" doors) across them; this makes a flexible, easy to mount, amazingly strong system; the doors i find used from deconstruction outlets and the like -- usually 12-18" wide, and surprisingly strong (can hold record albums across 2.5 foot gap) and much lighter than the crummy particle board shelves that many shelving systems use -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 8-16mm zoom for Pentax
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:58:51PM -0500, CheekyGeek wrote: > Sigma 8-16mm f/4.5-5.6 DC HSM Flickr group (127 members): > http://www.flickr.com/groups/1381...@n21/ Hmm. The first image there (the Tokyo night-time shot) seems to show some odd tilted verticals at either side, and one of the later shots definitely shows some significant barrel distortion: http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexandermason/4774672909/in/pool-1381...@n21 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Monaco II
On 20/07/2010, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: > http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012 I think this one grows on me the more that I study it, nicely done as always Ralf. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Manually focusing on the wrong "sharp edge"?
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PESO -- Thank you for not smoking
I was out shooting some record shots for a proposed redevelopment
project, (and testing my newly repaired A*300mm f4.0), when I came
across this scene.
This isn't fair, it probably isn't nice, but then nobody who's gotten to
know me ever accused me of being fair, or nice...
There are a number of things you shouldn't do in public. Using a cell
phone is one of them...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20thankyoufornotsmoking.html
Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax A*300mm f4.0.
As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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Re: Help ... advice on m42 extension tubes
These will only work properly with M42 screw mount lenses. Pentax
stopped making lenses in this mount in the mid 1970s. To use them on
any K mount camera either film or digital you will have to get a Pentax
M42 to K mount adapter. Some third party adapters compromise infintiy
focus, but that probably isn't an issue for macro shooting with
extension tubes. It will be if you wish to not use the tubes. If you
want to use these with some of the later film cameras, mostly the low
end MZ/ZX series film cameras, won't even allow you to fire their
shutters without an A mount or later lens. The only relatively high
level camera you have to worry about not working is the Film *ist. I
may have forgotten something but I'm sure others will fill in or
contradict me if I'm wrong, or if they just feel contrary.
On 7/19/2010 2:47 PM, Sam L wrote:
Hi all
I was perusing the pentax forum marketplace and saw an add for pentax
m42 extension tubes for $15.
They seem to include 12, 20, 36mm.
Here's a photo:
http://bkr.smugmug.com/Other/PhotoGear/11652557_WLPQY#821679568_6HGn4-A-LB
I am clueluess about extension tubes but have heard plenty of people
say they use them for doing macro work.
I'd like to have the ability to play around and do some macro stuff.
Is this an appropriate set? Good price? Are there limitations I
should be aware of?
I'll be mounting them to my k-x via the pentax m42 adapter. Someday
maybe I'll mount them to a spotmatic.
Would I be way better off getting a set up k-mount tubes?
Thanks!
Sam
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Re: PESO -- Thank you for not smoking
Well she was caught in the act now wasn't she? I'm not sure what cell phones
have to do with anything. Nice catch anyway.
"P. J. Alling" wrote:
>I was out shooting some record shots for a proposed redevelopment
>project, (and testing my newly repaired A*300mm f4.0), when I came
>across this scene.
>
>This isn't fair, it probably isn't nice, but then nobody who's gotten to
>know me ever accused me of being fair, or nice...
>
>There are a number of things you shouldn't do in public. Using a cell
>phone is one of them...
>
>http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20thankyoufornotsmoking.html
>
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Re: PESO -- Thank you for not smoking
She looked a lot prettier when she wasn't yakking on the cell phone...
On 7/19/2010 8:25 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
Well she was caught in the act now wasn't she? I'm not sure what cell phones
have to do with anything. Nice catch anyway.
"P. J. Alling" wrote:
I was out shooting some record shots for a proposed redevelopment
project, (and testing my newly repaired A*300mm f4.0), when I came
across this scene.
This isn't fair, it probably isn't nice, but then nobody who's gotten to
know me ever accused me of being fair, or nice...
There are a number of things you shouldn't do in public. Using a cell
phone is one of them...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20thankyoufornotsmoking.html
Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax A*300mm f4.0.
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Re: Manually focusing on the wrong "sharp edge"?
On Jul 19, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Jul 19, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >> Looked at your photos ... My one advice: get closer, frame tighter. :-) > > I couldn't exactly get up "on stage" with the band. Though I could drop some > of them tighter. >> >>> ... I'm curious if other people have this problem when manually focusing, >>> and what they do to fix it. .. >> >> I see I'm not alone in my preference for plain matte fresnel focusing >> screens. ;-) > > Interesting, because I found the screens that came with my Pentaxes nearly > useless for manual focusing. > >> >> Microprism and split prism focusing aids are usually distractions in >> SLR viewfinders, for me. I always changed my focusing screen to a >> simple, matte fresnel screen (with horizontal/vertical reference lines >> preferably) when possible. Longer lenses are easier to focus because >> when wide open the in-focus zone is shallow; short lenses are where >> focusing aids can help most. With any lens, good crisp contrast when >> wide open is the biggest aid to manual focusing, regardless of >> focusing screen, lens speed or focal length. > > That may be one reason I like my FA77 so much. > >> >> Beyond that, it's a matter of skill through lots of practice. > > I do try to practice, and to practice different techniques. When I first decided to get serious about photography, some forty years ago, a local pro told me to practice focusing on various things in the room while I was watching television. In a dim room, that was good practice. Even today, when I get a new camera, I'll spend some time getting used to the focusing screen. As I said earlier, I prefer a plain matte screen, although I do like the horizontal and vertical lines that Godders mentioned. I'm using the standard screens in my K20 and K7 now. No problem. I realize there are better options, but they're expensive. If I started missing focus, I'd invest in an ultra bright screen, but so far that hasn't been a problem. Paul > >> The EVF in the G1 is no exception, except that it makes nailing >> critical manual focus even easier than any of the optical reflex >> focusing systems I've used. > > Interestingly I found that manual focus on my FZ-50 to be nearly impossible > to get right. > > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Thank you for not smoking
Fun pic, nicely composed and rendered.
But like Bruce, I don't get the cell phone reference.
Paul
On Jul 19, 2010, at 8:25 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
> Well she was caught in the act now wasn't she? I'm not sure what cell phones
> have to do with anything. Nice catch anyway.
>
> "P. J. Alling" wrote:
>
>> I was out shooting some record shots for a proposed redevelopment
>> project, (and testing my newly repaired A*300mm f4.0), when I came
>> across this scene.
>>
>> This isn't fair, it probably isn't nice, but then nobody who's gotten to
>> know me ever accused me of being fair, or nice...
>>
>> There are a number of things you shouldn't do in public. Using a cell
>> phone is one of them...
>>
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20thankyoufornotsmoking.html
>>
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>>
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Re: PESO -- Thank you for not smoking
On Jul 19, 2010, at 8:30 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
> She looked a lot prettier when she wasn't yakking on the cell phone...
Okay. That works for me.
>
> On 7/19/2010 8:25 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
>> Well she was caught in the act now wasn't she? I'm not sure what cell
>> phones have to do with anything. Nice catch anyway.
>>
>> "P. J. Alling" wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I was out shooting some record shots for a proposed redevelopment
>>> project, (and testing my newly repaired A*300mm f4.0), when I came
>>> across this scene.
>>>
>>> This isn't fair, it probably isn't nice, but then nobody who's gotten to
>>> know me ever accused me of being fair, or nice...
>>>
>>> There are a number of things you shouldn't do in public. Using a cell
>>> phone is one of them...
>>>
>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20thankyoufornotsmoking.html
>>>
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>>>
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Re: Manually focusing on the wrong "sharp edge"?
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > Interesting, because I found the screens that came with my Pentaxes nearly > useless for manual focusing. The standard Pentax DSLR screens are optimized for brightness, not manual focusing contrast. I fitted my *ist DS with a customized Katz Eye screen (no focusing aids) and it was much easier to focus with. >> The EVF in the G1 is no exception, except that it makes nailing >> critical manual focus even easier than any of the optical reflex >> focusing systems I've used. > > Interestingly I found that manual focus on my FZ-50 to be nearly impossible > to get right. Comparing the FZ50 EVF to that of the G1 is like comparing a 9-inch color television tube screen from 1976 with a modern 42" LCD flat panel television display. Never mind that the FZ50's teensy little chip makes for massive amounts of DoF anywhere but at pretty long telephoto settings ... ]'-) And with that said, I used to use the FZ10 with it's even lower resolution EVF using manual focus quite a lot, and was pretty successful at it. EG: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/IoM-4/PoA-lighthouse-0730usFR.jpg Point of Ayre Lighthouse, Isle of Man © 2004 by Godfrey DiGiorgi Captured with Panasonic FZ10, tripod mounted ISO 50 @ f/5.7 @ 1/800sec, f=24.8mm (4.1x, 145mm equiv 135) AE-Program: compensation -0.3EV Of course, I couldn't photograph birds in flight with it very well ... the FZ10 EVF's refresh was so slow that most birds in flight simply disappeared! -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Re: Manually focusing on the wrong "sharp edge"?
Larry Colen wrote: I was photographing a friend playing in a small club in Capitola the other night. When I reviewed my photos, I found that an awful lot of them were focused on sharp edges in front of the musician: The tip jar, drum kit, microphone etc. I understand how this happens with autofocus. The camera is too stupid to know what to focus on and focuses on the sharp edge. What I don't understand is why this happens on manual focus. *I* should know better. One challenge that I have in low light is actually seeing the line of the split prism to try and line that up on the musician. Especially musicians that tend to move around a lot. As such, I may rely a lot more on the microprism ring, and wonder if I just focus until I see whatever is in that ring come into focus, and not notice that it's not actually the subject that I'm trying to photograph. More a case of my brain saying "something is sharp, press the shutter". I'm curious if other people have this problem when manually focusing, and what they do to fix it. I got what I thought was an amusing compliment on my dancing that night. I had a rather nice slow blues dance with an attractive young lady. Afterwards, she said in a rather husky voice "I need a cigarette". Unfortunately, she was married. Even worse, her husband doesn't share. I did get a couple shots of the lead singer which turned out pretty well: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4807504309/in/set-72157624409188927/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4808124360/in/set-72157624409188927/ In the second one Amy Lou isn't as sharp as I'd like, but I do like the way the composition worked out with Gary (the bass player) in the background. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est Never understood the fascination with split prisms. They're clunky and self-limiting. Give me a plain matte any day for manual focus. I suspect you're shooting yourself in the foot here, Larry, by trying to use the split prism and recomposing at f/1.4. You don't have any wiggle room shooting with such a narrow DOF, and I think this could go a long way toward explaining why your focus is off too often. Stop the lens down a couple clicks. This will help with the focus and will also make the photos look like they were taken at night in a club, instead of afternoon in the park. Also: Relax. It's only photography. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Open
In front of a bookstore in Great Barrington, Massachusetts: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11294973 (K7, DA 16-45) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Thank you for not smoking
I imagine the staff were told they had to go out past the sign to smoke. CW On 7/19/2010 8:07 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I was out shooting some record shots for a proposed redevelopment project, (and testing my newly repaired A*300mm f4.0), when I came across this scene. This isn't fair, it probably isn't nice, but then nobody who's gotten to know me ever accused me of being fair, or nice... There are a number of things you shouldn't do in public. Using a cell phone is one of them... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20thankyoufornotsmoking.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax A*300mm f4.0. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3016 - Release Date: 07/19/10 14:36:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Thank you for not smoking
Interestingly the sign was still on the campus by about a dozen feet.
On 7/19/2010 10:10 PM, Cory Waters wrote:
I imagine the staff were told they had to go out past the sign to smoke.
CW
On 7/19/2010 8:07 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
I was out shooting some record shots for a proposed redevelopment
project, (and testing my newly repaired A*300mm f4.0), when I came
across this scene.
This isn't fair, it probably isn't nice, but then nobody who's gotten to
know me ever accused me of being fair, or nice...
There are a number of things you shouldn't do in public. Using a cell
phone is one of them...
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20thankyoufornotsmoking.html
Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax A*300mm f4.0.
As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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Re: PESO -- Thank you for not smoking
Well... If you force them off the property on their break and the get hit by a car...Lawyers. On 7/19/2010 10:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Interestingly the sign was still on the campus by about a dozen feet. On 7/19/2010 10:10 PM, Cory Waters wrote: I imagine the staff were told they had to go out past the sign to smoke. CW On 7/19/2010 8:07 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I was out shooting some record shots for a proposed redevelopment project, (and testing my newly repaired A*300mm f4.0), when I came across this scene. This isn't fair, it probably isn't nice, but then nobody who's gotten to know me ever accused me of being fair, or nice... There are a number of things you shouldn't do in public. Using a cell phone is one of them... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20thankyoufornotsmoking.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax A*300mm f4.0. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3016 - Release Date: 07/19/10 14:36:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3016 - Release Date: 07/19/10 14:36:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - hot diggitty dog
On 2010-07-18 19:14 , P N Stenquist wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11289671&size=lg ouch, that's NSFDT ... without the dog, it's just like those illustrative clips used on TV news to symbolize all obese people; in that context, i'm afraid the wiener dog in the crotch falls flat for me -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - hot diggitty dog
On Jul 19, 2010, at 11:19 PM, steve harley wrote: > On 2010-07-18 19:14 , P N Stenquist wrote: >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11289671&size=lg >> > > ouch, that's NSFDT ... ?? > > without the dog, it's just like those illustrative clips used on TV news to > symbolize all obese people; in that context, i'm afraid the wiener dog in the > crotch falls flat for me > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - hot diggitty dog
On 2010-07-19 21:28 , paul stenquist wrote: On Jul 19, 2010, at 11:19 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2010-07-18 19:14 , P N Stenquist wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11289671&size=lg ouch, that's NSFDT ... ?? not safe for dinner time ;?> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Monaco II
On 2010-07-19 13:23 , Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012 i am regularly impressed by your vision of the world i visited Antwerp once; i would have been more impressed had i encountered this scene -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
