Re: PAW39 - Sunset
DagT wrote: http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html K20D, da*16-5...@16mm, 1/90s, f/8, ISO200 Oh YEAH! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW39 - Sunset
On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: DagT wrote: http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html K20D, da*16-5...@16mm, 1/90s, f/8, ISO200 Oh YEAH! Great shot! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Out of curiosity: A question for the pros
On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:47 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: By this time next year, it'll be about half that. If my time is worth any money at all, it's practically not worth the time to go through the bother of deleting them. Whenever I can't think of a better reason for keeping a shot than how cheap and easy it is to do so, I know that's a photograph that isn't worth keeping. You make a good point. My current rating system is: 0: not yet rated 1: completely unsalvageable 2: technically blown, but there may be a reason to try to salvage it 3: Nothing technically bad, but nothing particularly noteworthy (unless you happen to be in the photo and it's the only picture that anyone has taken of you doing something you enjoy) 4: Good enough to post on the web 5: Good enough to print All of the photos rated 1 2 get deleted. Eventually, all that remains will go into a big archive, with the ones rated 4 and up staying in a more active archive. I also want to eventually change my rating system by bumping everything down a notch: 0: not yet rated 1: delete when convenient 2: meh, ( but might be interesting to the people in it or if the people in it are one day famous) 3: web worthy 4: print worthy 5: possibly show worthy I could spend a lot more time deciding which shots I want to disappear forever, though I frequently have people asking about shots that I'd rate a 3, because they are special to them. It's easier for me to just shuffle off the vast majority to digital purgatory, than to spend the time carefully sorting them out to I'll never want and I might want at some time in the future. YMMV -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Out of curiosity: A question for the pros
I concur. There is no point in keeping stuff just because it is cheap to do so. It may only equate to 1TB per year, but it is also a whole lot of filing, cataloguing etc that I don't have time to do. There is no point in me keeping stuff that is average at best. I don't ever want to be an average photographer, and want to be proud of my portfolio of work. I don't want to look back at stuff and go omg, that sucks, what the heck was I thinking keeping that?!? Wrt to editing vs deleting - I agree with that too - editing does not = deleting - they are two separate processes for me. My post workflow is a three step process, that I refer to as D.C.E - 1. The mass delete. 2. A further, more refined cull. 3. The edit. #1 - is a fast process - if it isn't completely engaging or usable at first glance, it gets rejected immediately. 15 minutes max. #2 - is a more discerning look, zooming in to view focus, details, etc., and the rejection of those that looked ok at first glance, but upon finer inspection of focus etc, I realised that there are better shots in the collection. 30-60 mins. #3 - editing and creative processing. 4-5 hours for an average 300 image collection. I never waste my time editing stuff that is average. There just aren't enough hours in the day. UNLESS, I am on a tight deadline and have no time for a reshoot and HAVE to deliver something to the client asap. (I think that I have only done this twice and it felt SHITE to do so). Mark also said: Good photographers have to be ruthless editors of their own work. This is the point that I was making. I keep heaps of average/crappy stuff (I even take stuff on my iphone occasionally) if it is of my kids or whatever, for emotional/memorial reasons, but I don't consider that to be my photography. If I wasn't a ruthless editor of my own work, I don't think that I could ever improve on my work, AND I also think it would equate in me developing a massive ego as I would start believing that everything I do is great, which it most definitely isn't. I love editing/deleting my work harshly, it keeps me humble. Tanya Love Photographer www.lovebytes.com.au m: 0458 006 740 -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 2010 10:47 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Out of curiosity: A question for the pros Mark said: Whenever I can't think of a better reason for keeping a shot than how cheap and easy it is to do so, I know that's a photograph that isn't worth keeping. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: About Studio Lighting kinds
John Sessoms said: I just replaced my cheap Chinese radio-slaves, which come to think were Interfit Branded with Paul C. Buff Cybersync. Didn't go the CyberCommander route yet, but the receivers transmitter I have will work with it if I ever get that far advanced. Yeah, I am going to go with the CyberCommanders I think - they are a bit more exxy which is why I haven't done it yet, but I think to have full control over everything and to be able to add as many strobes as I like will be really handy... They do provide great customer service, and plus, ABs are cool. The ONLY studio set up that I have ever found that actually has a bit of personality to it! Sucks that they changed their website to look more commercial (read: boring!) though, I used to love the old out there Alien inspired one! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Out of curiosity: A question for the pros
-- From: Tanya Love Subject: RE: Out of curiosity: A question for the pros I concur. There is no point in keeping stuff just because it is cheap to do so. It may only equate to 1TB per year, but it is also a whole lot of filing, cataloguing etc that I don't have time to do. There is no point in me keeping stuff that is average at best. I don't ever want to be an average photographer, and want to be proud of my portfolio of work. I don't want to look back at stuff and go omg, that sucks, what the heck was I thinking keeping that?!? I could come up with a very compelling reason, if you like. It's one of the fundamentals that I taught when I instructed beginner photography workshops. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off list for a while - and why
Sad news Ann, my condolences. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: My oldest (in terms of years known) and one of two of my very dearest closest long term friends passed away on Friday ... so I'm off to Chicago to her home and family One of the reasons I could talk myself into the expense of the photo show at the Dank last spring was my concern that there would no be many more opportunities to be with her in person... the show became a reason to go to Chicago so Barb wouldn't think I was just hurrying to get there before she passed on... one had hoped things were not as dire as they sounded from her daughter -- Barb always minimalized her troubles and was a real trooper ... She appreciated our lists penchant for puns and herself invented a few wonderful shaggy-dog groaners. No, not the big C - but enough other stuff to cause her to be in and out of hospital for a few months and cause her a lot of discomfort. While I was biting my nails waiting to see if my photo got in she said But you are coming anyway arent you? naturally, I was. How many of us can claim to still be friends and in touch with someone from childhood at my age? (gonna be 74 in December) Particularly sad for me not just for the loss of her friendship but to think of her only being two years my senior ... Her son Johnny took our photo in May and said I should make a grouping of photos of the two of us - so I did that for him on my web page... he took the one of us last May. I've spent the last couple of days gathering more snaps from the past at her daughter's request to be displayed at the wake... it seems that is something of a fashion these days... I won't really be _in_ Chicago ... except to get to the communter rail to take me to the far burbs - I'll be taking the long way around returning (bus and trains) so if I can manage it at all I'll get to see a couple of you . Happily, my young roomie will take care of Ashley . The gallery on my web page with vintage photos is called Barb and Barb Yeah, I was _nee_ Barbara Ann... and is in the Friends and Family section - if you are curious... Sometimes my direct off-list mail doesnt get to people (something to do with my server) so Frank and Paul Stenquist - write me off list will ya? you both should have had email from me. I hope to at least get a cuppa with Christine and I'm going to pick up my photo and the one I traded for from Dank House I'll stay on list long enough to answer stuff - but you can see why I've been quiet for a bit ann http://annsan.smugmug.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off list for a while - and why
So sorry to hear this Ann. I know you had been concerned for her for some time. But expecting the worst doesn't make coping with the situation all that much easier. stan On Oct 5, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: My oldest (in terms of years known) and one of two of my very dearest closest long term friends passed away on Friday ... so I'm off to Chicago to her home and family One of the reasons I could talk myself into the expense of the photo show at the Dank last spring was my concern that there would no be many more opportunities to be with her in person... the show became a reason to go to Chicago so Barb wouldn't think I was just hurrying to get there before she passed on... one had hoped things were not as dire as they sounded from her daughter -- Barb always minimalized her troubles and was a real trooper ... She appreciated our lists penchant for puns and herself invented a few wonderful shaggy-dog groaners. No, not the big C - but enough other stuff to cause her to be in and out of hospital for a few months and cause her a lot of discomfort. While I was biting my nails waiting to see if my photo got in she said But you are coming anyway arent you? naturally, I was. How many of us can claim to still be friends and in touch with someone from childhood at my age? (gonna be 74 in December) Particularly sad for me not just for the loss of her friendship but to think of her only being two years my senior ... Her son Johnny took our photo in May and said I should make a grouping of photos of the two of us - so I did that for him on my web page... he took the one of us last May. I've spent the last couple of days gathering more snaps from the past at her daughter's request to be displayed at the wake... it seems that is something of a fashion these days... I won't really be _in_ Chicago ... except to get to the communter rail to take me to the far burbs - I'll be taking the long way around returning (bus and trains) so if I can manage it at all I'll get to see a couple of you . Happily, my young roomie will take care of Ashley . The gallery on my web page with vintage photos is called Barb and Barb Yeah, I was _nee_ Barbara Ann... and is in the Friends and Family section - if you are curious... Sometimes my direct off-list mail doesnt get to people (something to do with my server) so Frank and Paul Stenquist - write me off list will ya? you both should have had email from me. I hope to at least get a cuppa with Christine and I'm going to pick up my photo and the one I traded for from Dank House I'll stay on list long enough to answer stuff - but you can see why I've been quiet for a bit ann http://annsan.smugmug.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
On 10/5/2010 7:01 PM, John Francis wrote: On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 01:49:18PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: On Oct 5, 2010, at 1:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Well ... not a real car. I'd get my MG running again, but that's not really for transportation. I need to get my MGBGT back on the road too. And being a BGT, it actually makes pretty decent transportation. That's a matter of opinion ... I grew up with MGBs. They were perhaps a little better than the Ford Escort beloved by the boy racers of the next generation, but only a little better. Still, at least they were better than the Triumph Spitfire or MG Midget. In those days I drove a Triumph Vitesse convertible; lighter than an MGB, with a two-litre straight 6 engine (the MGB GT had an 1800cc 4-banger). A friend of mine had an MGC. Now *that* was a nice bit of machinery. Too bad it didn't have nice electrics to go with it. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Out of curiosity: A question for the pros
I should think that would be one of the best times to take pictures. Pretty shots of pretty places are easy... On 10/5/2010 6:27 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: The PAW project came about as a result of the same thing we tend to do here (talk about equipment rather than taking pictures...but I blame that on Photokina). Kyle Cassity on the Leica Users Group came up (half-jokingly) that the LUG people should use their cameras rather than just talking about them, and challenged them to post one decent photo a week. I participated for several years, but when the demands of my job got to the point that I had almost no free time, I had to let the project go. Then Katrina hit us, and I didn't do much of anything photographic because the city looked like London after WWII. Jeffery On Oct 5, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Thanks for the input, Jeffery. I've been curious about the PAW project, having seen references to it in subject lines on the list in the past. I just assumed it was an individual effort. Maybe a kind soul will explain it to me sometime. Now, I've at least put together the fact that PAW stands for Picture-a-Week -- or something similar. As for trying to capture birds ... the funny thing is, that was my main focus when I got my K-x. It never occurred to me not to try it, inasmuch as I'd seen photos of birds in flight, so I just took it for granted that it was possible to do, and set about doing it. I get a passable shot only about ten percent of the time, but it's sort of like the old saw about taking a rather forward approach with women: Nine out of ten times, you get slapped. But, that tenth time... Thanks again! Walt -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Out of curiosity: A question for the pros
Just try to add an interesting background to a good foreground shot in color in a chemical darkroom. It was difficult enough to do in BW, Photoshop's a snap. On 10/5/2010 4:59 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Thanks, P. J. Good point about storage. I guess I still think of hard drive space as coming at a rather high premium -- and also, there's the fact that I'm not the most well-organized person in the world. I tend to scatter copies of images in various forms hither and yon, throughout my drive. Though, I have gotten considerably better about it, now that I'm doing more editing. As for the Photoshop making it easy to combine elements into an interesting image ... all I can say to that is that easy is a very relative term. :-) As for selling photos to the AP ... if I were going to try and pull of something like that, I'd go to Reuters. ;-) Best, Walt On 10/5/2010 2:55 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Apply some blur, some motion striping and call it art... Hell, I seldom throw anything out, (unless it's just silly, like 100 pictures of a doorknob), storage is cheap, and you never know when a great idea for combined images will strike you. Somewhere on film I have a very nice photograph of an egret, with a dead white sky. I also have a number of establishing shots on that same roll of film that had nice blue sky fluffy clouds and interesting Jungle type foliage, Photoshop makes it easy to combine those elements to get an interesting image, where before there were several boring and flawed images. Just don't sell the result to the AP. On 10/5/2010 1:37 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: As I hasten to stipulate at every opportunity, I'm pretty new to photography, and I have what may seem to be a stupid question. So, please indulge me. That said, what do all of you real photographers do with images that may be flawed, but still have some redeeming qualities to them. For instance, a shot that's too poorly focused to rescue with sharpening tools and so forth, but does capture a sense of action that is somewhat appealing. Like this one, for example: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7X4Utq1sTP4AoZG2S3S0zQ?feat=directlink As you can see, it's a fairly severe crop, and has been sharpened already to the point where it exhibits a pretty prominent halo as a result. I do have a copy of the image, pre-halo, but not the original file -- which I seem to have deleted somehow. I don't see the image ever being finessed to the point where it's printable, but I hate to just discard it because of the sense of action. Do you all generally keep images like these, or just send them down the memory hole to rid yourself of torment and temptation to return it in futility? Any guidance and/or damnation with faint praise are, as always, greatly appreciated. Best, Walt -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Out of curiosity: A question for the pros
On 10/5/2010 8:47 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: On Oct 5, 2010, at 4:30 PM, John Francis wrote: On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 08:57:04AM +1000, Tanya Love wrote: I know this is an opposing view to what most have posted here, but it works for me. And when I am shooting 2-3000 frames every week, the storage space and time it would take to keep the average shots, would be ridiculous. 2000 images a week, 50 weeks a year, at 10MB/image, is one TB a year. I don't think that's a ridiculous amount of storage; A decades worth of storage will fit in a single RAID array the size of a desktop PC. AT today's prices, that's about a buck a week for storage. With backups, call it $4/week or about $0.50 per day. By this time next year, it'll be about half that. If my time is worth any money at all, it's practically not worth the time to go through the bother of deleting them. Whenever I can't think of a better reason for keeping a shot than how cheap and easy it is to do so, I know that's a photograph that isn't worth keeping. YOU! -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Out of curiosity: A question for the pros
In general I try to only keep those images that don't require an explanation for the viewer as far as technical deficiencies go. And I don't keep images that I wouldn't be proud to show others. Upon download, I make a fast ruthless selection of keepers and trash the rest. I'll do that again after I've perfected all the images from a particular shoot. The more you shoot the better you can be - work an image so you wind up with variations to choose from and keep only the best of those. Unless you use them for teaching purposes, keeping less than perfect images is a waste in time and effort. my $.02 worth. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com Subject: Out of curiosity: A question for the pros As I hasten to stipulate at every opportunity, I'm pretty new to photography, and I have what may seem to be a stupid question. So, please indulge me. That said, what do all of you real photographers do with images that may be flawed, but still have some redeeming qualities to them. For instance, a shot that's too poorly focused to rescue with sharpening tools and so forth, but does capture a sense of action that is somewhat appealing. Like this one, for example: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7X4Utq1sTP4AoZG2S3S0zQ?feat=directlink As you can see, it's a fairly severe crop, and has been sharpened already to the point where it exhibits a pretty prominent halo as a result. I do have a copy of the image, pre-halo, but not the original file -- which I seem to have deleted somehow. I don't see the image ever being finessed to the point where it's printable, but I hate to just discard it because of the sense of action. Do you all generally keep images like these, or just send them down the memory hole to rid yourself of torment and temptation to return it in futility? Any guidance and/or damnation with faint praise are, as always, greatly appreciated. Best, Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Re: It ain't like it used to be.
From: Larry Colen On Oct 5, 2010, at 3:10 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Problem number 2 is what's really kept it off the road. Vandals smashed the windshield and driver's side window and I can't get the broken glass out of the existing interior. I'm going to have to strip it out and completely replace it, which is just beyond my finances right now. That seems mighty extreme. At the very least a detailing place should be able to clean it all out for, at most, $200. Even if you ignore how the interior looked after having all that glass smashed into the upholstery, there are thousands of tiny little splinters of glass embedded throughout. I scrubbed and vacuumed and brushed and vacuumed and scrubbed and vacuumed and ... no amount of detailing is going to remove it. Trust me, I tried; they just wouldn't come out. I was still getting cuts, and glass splinters hurt like hell. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
From: P. J. Alling On 10/5/2010 7:01 PM, John Francis wrote: On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 01:49:18PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: On Oct 5, 2010, at 1:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Well ... not a real car. I'd get my MG running again, but that's not really for transportation. I need to get my MGBGT back on the road too. And being a BGT, it actually makes pretty decent transportation. That's a matter of opinion ... I grew up with MGBs. They were perhaps a little better than the Ford Escort beloved by the boy racers of the next generation, but only a little better. Still, at least they were better than the Triumph Spitfire or MG Midget. In those days I drove a Triumph Vitesse convertible; lighter than an MGB, with a two-litre straight 6 engine (the MGB GT had an 1800cc 4-banger). A friend of mine had an MGC. Now *that* was a nice bit of machinery. Too bad it didn't have nice electrics to go with it. 'cause Lucas also makes refrigerators ... yada, yada yada! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
A, Lucas, the Prince of Darkness I still like my RED '87 Alfa Romeo Quadrafoglio http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/Bisbee%20Blues%20Fest%202010/_ORI8154A1.jpg Jerry From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: It ain't like it used to be. Message-ID: 4cabde0d.1030...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 10/5/2010 7:01 PM, John Francis wrote: On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 01:49:18PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: On Oct 5, 2010, at 1:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Well ... not a real car. I'd get my MG running again, but that's not really for transportation. I need to get my MGBGT back on the road too. And being a BGT, it actually makes pretty decent transportation. That's a matter of opinion ... I grew up with MGBs. They were perhaps a little better than the Ford Escort beloved by the boy racers of the next generation, but only a little better. Still, at least they were better than the Triumph Spitfire or MG Midget. In those days I drove a Triumph Vitesse convertible; lighter than an MGB, with a two-litre straight 6 engine (the MGB GT had an 1800cc 4-banger). A friend of mine had an MGC. Now *that* was a nice bit of machinery. Too bad it didn't have nice electrics to go with it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off list for a while - and why
Be strong, Ann! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
On 10/5/2010 2:01 AM, John Sessoms wrote: If Pentax's customers lose the perception that Pentax offers superior value, they will no longer be Pentax's customers. Very well said indeed. This is probably what I've been trying to tell all along but did not manage it with proper brevity. I am never brief, ain't I? Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris and Galia - few PESOs
On 9/30/2010 8:21 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris, Tell Galia I like her army better than yours. She seems to have 3 cohorts on the attack, and the stage(?) appears more parallel to the front rank in her shot. The waves are just waves. In the chair study, I especially like the choice of row 10. It has so many links back to the Roman army's organzation. Regards, Bob S. Thanks, Bob. I told Galia that her pictures were liked by many people and it made her shine :-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris and Galia - few PESOs
On 10/1/2010 12:19 AM, Bob W wrote: I think you were both very clever to get that shot of the chairs, and to see it in that way. Excellent. Bob Thanks, Bob. I did not know what Galia shot until we got home :-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris and Galia - few PESOs
On 10/1/2010 3:59 AM, paul stenquist wrote: What Bob said. Well seen. Paul Thanks, Paul! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris and Galia - few PESOs
On 10/1/2010 2:06 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Good on you for taking the time to patiently teach and encourage her. Even well intentioned people get busy and tired and family time becomes nothing but a shared DVD. You never know how her thinking i general develops because she learned how to take the time to compose and correctly expose photographs. BTW, I obviously like the pics otherwise I'd be telling you to teach her carpentry. ;-) Thanks, Steve. I think that actually she needs no encouragement any longer. She enjoys the process and the results as well. You mean programming and write carpentry, don't you? :-) Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris and Galia - few PESOs
On 10/3/2010 5:46 PM, frank theriault wrote: I love the two armies of ~each~ of you, and I really like Galia's Wave Study! Excellent shots cheers, frank Me too, Frank. I was very pleasantly surprised by these pictures. Thanks! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris and Galia - few PESOs
On 10/4/2010 11:22 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Lovely Dave Thanks! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris and Galia - few PESOs
On 10/1/2010 12:24 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: My upbringing won't permit me to express in properly brutal terms the unmitigated spite and envy I'm currently feeling toward a mere child. Beyond that ... nice work! -- Walt Thanks, Walt... :-) Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: All right, which one of you is responsible for this?
Mark Roberts wrote: I was just voting on photos for the Pentax Photo Gallery and what should come up but a shot titled Cormorants at Sunset... I think if it was one of us, it would say Cormorants (Official Bird of the PDML[tm]. All Rights Reserved. Do Not Fold, Spindle, or Mutilate. Subject to Credit approval. Tell your doctor about all medications you're taking, and ask if you're healthy enough for sexual activity. Most common side-effects are death and purchasing Bee Gees albums on iTunes. This title is intended for the named recipient only. Be Kind-- rewind. Where's Waldo? Offer subject to change without notice. Participating dealers only.) at Sunset I expect we'll be reading this again on New Year's Day... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Learning Lightroom
My impression is that Lightroom isn't really intended for moving photos around. Thanks, John. That's not what I had in mind, at least not in perpetuity. Rather I was imagining that immediately after importing all the images into a single folder there would be categories of images that in my mind at least it would be helpful to have in separate folders. I wouldn't envision much moving around after that. in general you'll find things easier if you keep everything in one folder and use keywords and collections to organise things within LR. This is the approach I take (LR creates date folders for me as I import, but since I never look into the photo folder using the OS they might as well not be there). Some people do use a small number of folders, say 2 or 3, for large-scale workflow separation and that seems to work ok, but whenever I've heard of people using many folders it's been because they've got themselves into a sticky mess and need help getting out of it. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
On Oct 4, 2010, at 21:54 , Joseph McAllister wrote: Well PDML'rs, you forced me to break out my DA* 50-135 ƒ2.8 today. I hadn't used it since I tested it when I bought it almost two years ago, at least as far as I can recall. I used the DA* 16-50 ƒ2.8 and the DA* 60-250 ƒ4.0 for all my canine action shooting. The 16-50 only occasionally. So I hooked it up to the K-7 figuring after all, it's getting dark earlier, the AF could use the extra stop a half. Focused on a few things around the house. Zip zip. No focus problems. Batteries charged a few days ago still good. Packed it up and headed off to a sunny late afternoon of shooting. Got to the park, set up, (that means sitting on a bench and turning the camera around to shoot as I carry it upside down on it's strap so it doesn't bang into doorways and nearby walls) and start shooting. Couple of shots of dogs playing 5 feet away from me, zip zip - sharp focus. Took another shot about 25 feet away — that didn't look so sharp… Another about 6 feet away — ok - that looked sharp didn't it? Woah. Now there's a pooch running and coming at me… Nothing. Removed and reset lens on body with power off. Power on. Prefocused lens so it could follow action. Nothing. Went through everything I could think of, moving switches on camera body and lens that would affect focusing. Nada. By the time I got home the batteries were indicating half charge, both of them. Mounted the DA* 16-50 ƒ2.8 to see if low voltage was the problem. Nope - it focused fine, and fast, even in room light after dark. So does the DA* 60-250 ƒ4.0. I'll finish this paragraph after both batteries are charged. I know one should do, but if it's sticky, the amps of two might free it. This could take all night - After inserting a freshly charged NiMH battery in the body alone (couldn't wait), I mounted the DA* 50-135 ƒ2.8 and turned 'er on. Nada. Messed with the switches again. Nada. Ran the focus back and forth manually from end to end, taking care not to slam into the stops that I guess are physical limits of some kind. After a dozen tries going from manual focus to SDM, the darn thing started working, and continued to do so until I got bored and watched TV some more. This is similar to what I recall having to do at times to get the DA* 16-50 ƒ2.8 to do it's SDM thing. I think I will let this slide for now, even though it is a crappy system that makes these kinds of side-show shenanigans (worked that into a sentence) with Pentax's top of the line DA optics. I'm sure they are working on it and all will be well in the world again soon. I wonder if the electrical energy to move these circular disks/plates is shaped in the camera body or the lens itself. If Pentax comes out with this new-fangled DC focus drives, then I would think the body will have to ascertain the lens's needs and supply it through those two contacts or… or… or… turning the drive shaft ! That makes me wonder if the polarity of the supply is reversed in the body controlled by the FAFOX system, or just supplied and letting the lens's circuits determine the polarity in situ based on data from SAFOX. I think about these things too much! Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I don't like being the squeaky wheel, but...
My following comments are a duplicate of what I sent under the title It ain't like it used to be but are a follow up in this thread as well, perhaps even more germane. On Oct 2, 2010, at 09:16 , Carlos R wrote: El 02/10/2010 13:26, paul stenquist escribió: What's DC? Have you had trouble with an SDM lens, Ecke? I know Robb and Celio did. Has anyone else on the list had a failure? I'm genuinely curious. I have three that SDM lenses I've used extensively since they were first released, and they work very well. Maybe I got lucky. Or perhaps failures are magnified on the web, because the victims complain loudly, while those of us who are satisfied are mum for the most part. Paul DC is a new type of AF motor in Pentaxland. It will appear first in their 18-135 WR zoom. By the way, the SDM motor in my 50-135 also died, after very little use. Carlos On Oct 4, 2010, at 21:54 , Joseph McAllister wrote: Well PDML'rs, you forced me to break out my DA* 50-135 ƒ2.8 today. I hadn't used it since I tested it when I bought it almost two years ago, at least as far as I can recall. I used the DA* 16-50 ƒ2.8 and the DA* 60-250 ƒ4.0 for all my canine action shooting. The 16-50 only occasionally. (It's redundant in that FL range) So I hooked it up to the K-7 figuring after all, it's getting dark earlier, the AF could use the extra stop a half. Focused on a few things around the house. Zip zip. No focus problems. Batteries charged a few days ago still good. Packed it up and headed off to a sunny late afternoon of shooting. Got to the dog park, set up, (that means sitting on a bench and turning the camera around to shoot as I carry it upside down on it's strap so it doesn't bang into doorways and nearby walls) and start shooting. Couple of shots of dogs playing 5 feet away from me, zip zip - sharp focus. Took another shot about 25 feet away — that didn't look so sharp… Another about 6 feet away — ok - that looked sharp didn't it? Woah. Now there's a pooch running and coming at me… Nothing. Removed and reset lens on body with power off. Power on. Prefocused lens so it could follow action. Nothing. Went through everything I could think of, moving switches on camera body and lens that would affect focusing. Nada. By the time I got home the batteries were indicating half charge, both of them. Mounted the DA* 16-50 ƒ2.8 to see if low voltage was the problem. Nope - it focused fine, and fast, even in room light after dark. So does the DA* 60-250 ƒ4.0. I'll finish this paragraph after both batteries are charged. I know one should do, but if it's sticky, the amps of two might free it. This could take all night - laeter After inserting a freshly charged NiMH battery in the body alone (couldn't wait), I mounted the DA* 50-135 ƒ2.8 and turned 'er on. Nada. Messed with the switches again. Nada. Ran the focus back and forth manually from end to end, taking care not to slam into the stops that I guess are physical limits of some kind. After a dozen tries going from manual focus to SDM, the darn thing started working, and continued to do so until I got bored and watched TV some more. This is similar to what I recall having to do at times to get the DA* 16-50 ƒ2.8 to do it's SDM thing. I think I will let this slide for now, even though it is a crappy system that makes these kinds of side-show shenanigans (worked that into a sentence) with Pentax's top of the line DA optics. I'm sure they are working on it and all will be well in the world again soon. I wonder if the electrical energy to move these circular disks/plates is shaped in the camera body or the lens itself. If Pentax comes out with this new-fangled DC focus drives, then I would think the body will have to ascertain the lens's needs and supply it through those two contacts or… or… or… turning the drive shaft ! That makes me wonder if the polarity of the supply is reversed in the body controlled by the FAFOX system, or just supplied and letting the lens's circuits determine the polarity in situ based on data from SAFOX. I think about these things too much! Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ It is still true, as was first said many years ago, that people are the only sophisticated computing devices that can be made at low cost by unskilled workers!” — Martin G. Wolf, PhD -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: A use for the K-x's video capabilities
On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:35 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: I've finally found something worth firing up the K-x's HD video. I just need to find funding for the trip. Anybody care to float me a loan? Any New Zealand Pentaxians have a couch I can crash on for a day or two? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1317168/Too-hot-handle-Daredevils-abseil-depths-live-volcano-boiling-hot-lava.html Yeah I have a couch you can use but the volcano is in Vanuatu so you may as well stay there... Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso's Approaches, waiting
On Oct 2, 2010, at 11:28 , Ken Waller wrote: Dave, seems like you have a very cooperative group of squirels Jays! IMO the backgrounds in most of your squirrel/Jay images are distracting. Repositioning (higher, lower, left or right) the camera to capture their antics without the distracting background would greatly improve these images. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller But then Dave would have to move his favorite outdoor easy chair! :-) - Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 2:08 PM Subject: Peso's Approaches, waiting Table for two please: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11735912 More landings; http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11735913 Night landing: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11735911 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn’t need to lug a camera.” –Lewis Hine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photokina observations...
Jump on the spiral up staircase why don't ya! Bigger Sensor? More Mega-Pixel$… Fa$ter proce$$or in the camera, faster larger $D card$, longer tran$fer times to your computer, Fa$ter computer, more RAM, Larger $torage, new I/O $pecification$ to enable better transfer times, means another new computer to handle the new card that handles the new I/O. Six months later, a newer faster bigger sensor and the search goes on for your wallet to pay for that 5-10% increase in speed, none of which does anything to improve your photography. And I need to improve my photography! As soon as I finish the next level in Mafia Wars, then find all my old lady friends that are still alive on Facebook and Google to help me remember my life! On Sep 26, 2010, at 11:46 , Jeffery Smith wrote: grin By full-sized, I was referring to a sensor that was the size of 35mm film (24mmx36mm or thereabouts). What on earth is an official rumor? Jeffert On Sep 26, 2010, at 1:33 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: I wouldn't describe Pentax is stalled. The upgrades have been continuous. There have never been any official rumors of a larger sensor in a Pentax compact DSLR body. (What's full? Al sensors are full size if they're not nicked or chipped.) The K5 is substantially improved over the K7. But let the whining begin:-) Paul On Sep 26, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote: My overall feeling is the Pentax is stalled in RD. There have been rumors of a full-sized sensor Pentax, which would be wonderful for us who have Pentax lenses designed for film (that would be ALL of my Pentax lenses except for the 40mm pancake). There is little that would entice me to move from the K-x with 43/1.9 to something else. The combination is lightweight and fast and comfortable in my hand. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.” — Kevan Olesen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
On 10/5/2010 9:30 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote: I think I will let this slide for now, even though it is a crappy system that makes these kinds of side-show shenanigans (worked that into a sentence) with Pentax's top of the line DA optics. Joe, with all due respect, I think that you might be making a mistake here. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Learning Lightroom
On 10/5/2010 8:54 AM, Bob W wrote: in general you'll find things easier if you keep everything in one folder and use keywords and collections to organise things within LR. This is the approach I take (LR creates date folders for me as I import, but since I never look into the photo folder using the OS they might as well not be there). Some people do use a small number of folders, say 2 or 3, for large-scale workflow separation and that seems to work ok, but whenever I've heard of people using many folders it's been because they've got themselves into a sticky mess and need help getting out of it. Bob Right. But the stickiness of the mess may be different from instance to instance. Personally, I organize my stuff in folders in such a way that if tomorrow LR goes banana (or orange, or even tomato), I still will have some notion of what is where. So I have a structure something like: \Family Album\ \year \year-month \Travel \Tel Aviv \year-month-day \Jerusalem \year-month-day \International Travel \London 2005 \Norway 2006 \Belgium 2008 \Unsorted \year-month-day -- from where stuff will get moved accordingly and so on. Never had any stickiness problems, me... And LR makes folder/file management pretty straightforward as well. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photokina observations...
On Sep 27, 2010, at 07:23 , William Robb wrote: It like having a whole group of ADHD anal retentives in the same room griping about how the new caramel Mars bar isn't as nice as the white chocolate Mars bar because there is goo inside the caramel bar. Wrong! We'd gripe about how the white chocolate Mars bar doesn't taste as good as the white Pentax k-x balances on inexpensive tripods from Ritz. Do they sell candy too? Nah - just crackers. Where are my keys? -- It's not that life is too short, it's that you're dead for so long.. — Anon Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Learning Lightroom
On Oct 4, 2010, at 10:07 PM, David Parsons wrote: There are two ways of moving files when using LR. 1. Move files inside of LR. It will move the files and update all the database references automatically. 2. Move the files using your OS. You will need to tell LR where the new location of the files are after you move them. If you are moving more than a few folders, it gets really tedious to repeat the update steps for each folder. Thanks, David. I'll try to keep moving to a minimum, but this helps. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Learning Lightroom
On Oct 4, 2010, at 10:11 PM, David Parsons wrote: The tagging allows me to have multiple ways to find my pictures, but I'm usually shooting a group of pictures around a central theme or location, so having the folders will allow me to find them later if there is a problem with LR. Thanks again, David. I think you've put your finger on my concern: to be able to identify/locate files outside of LR should it be necessary or desirable. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Learning Lightroom
On Oct 4, 2010, at 10:29 PM, William Robb wrote: As Stan says, keywords are so important to learn to use. With keywords you can pull up every file on a particular subject/theme in moments. I'm pretty good at that. In work, with paper files, my colleagues often came to me for copies of *their* documents; I would go over to the file cabinet, open the right drawer, pull out the right folder, and give them a copy of their document. For the last few years I've been using a nifty and versatile little application called TiddlyWiki [http://www.tiddlywiki.com/ and http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Main_Page] that makes heavy use of tagging, and I've figured out how to organize my notes on writing projects. The cool thing here is that I don't have to have an organizing structure set up in advance. It can evolve out of my note taking and sketching, and I can easily modify the working structure in response to my changing thoughts about the topic. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Learning Lightroom
On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:08 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Personally, I organize my stuff in folders in such a way that if tomorrow LR goes banana (or orange, or even tomato), I still will have some notion of what is where Thanks, Boris. Again, that puts the finger on my interest. I think it's possible to do this and remain largely in within LR for file management. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Learning Lightroom
On 10/5/2010 1:38 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:08 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Personally, I organize my stuff in folders in such a way that if tomorrow LR goes banana (or orange, or even tomato), I still will have some notion of what is where Thanks, Boris. Again, that puts the finger on my interest. I think it's possible to do this and remain largely in within LR for file management. Well, yes, Eric, this is how I've been using LightRoom since LR 1.0 came out. With time I have refined a little my system and I am aware of its drawbacks, but I find it /personally/ convenient. Apparently (almost forgot) I wrote a wordy and lengthy blog entry on this subject. You can read it here: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/03/on-workflow-and-archiving.html if you don't mind its length. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: A use for the K-x's video capabilities
True enough, but I figured it would be a while before I heard back from any of the Vanuatuan Pentaxians on the list. So far, it's been my experience that they tend to keep pretty much to themselves. As do the Fijian Pentaxians, lamentably enough. Thanks for the crash space offer, though. I'll be in touch the moment I secure the financing and silver suit. Best, Walt On 10/5/2010 3:01 AM, David Mann wrote: On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:35 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: I've finally found something worth firing up the K-x's HD video. I just need to find funding for the trip. Anybody care to float me a loan? Any New Zealand Pentaxians have a couch I can crash on for a day or two? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1317168/Too-hot-handle-Daredevils-abseil-depths-live-volcano-boiling-hot-lava.html Yeah I have a couch you can use but the volcano is in Vanuatu so you may as well stay there... Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Learning Lightroom
On Oct 5, 2010, at 1:54 AM, Bob W wrote: in general you'll find things easier if you keep everything in one folder and use keywords and collections to organise things within LR. . . Bob Eric - by now you have heard two somewhat opposing views on folder/file organization for your photos when working with LR. Option A - create some small or large folder hierarchy by subject matter. [Often said to be a useful backup strategy in case LR goes wonky on you, and you want to be able to find your flower or model or automotive or whatever category of images on your hard drive.] Option B - throw everything into one folder and do your organization within LR using keywords plus special collections for particular interests. Option C - a common mixed strategy. As you import into LR, let it create subfolders by date. If LR ever goes wonky or you need to track things down within your OS for some other reason, if you can remember that the flower image you are looking for was taken in July or August 2010, your search won't be impossibly large. I agree with Godfrey, Bob W. and others; I personally have found that the Option B or Option C approach is far superior. I use the date subfolder approach, and have one higher-level folder for each year. Using a keyword hierarchy within LR to tag and locate images is far less busywork than using the folder-category approach, both when importing the images and when working with them. LR is designed to serve as a database organization tool for your images; use it that way. Yes, I suppose that there is some small chance that LR may someday go wonky on you. I would not give that more than a passing thought. I've used LR since version 1.0 or 1.1 and have seen no reason for such concerns. The only other reason I can see for the organize-folders-by-category approach is for convenience if/when you ever switch to a different LR-like program. But even then, as part of doing the switch, you could easily let LR create a folder structure for you. E.g., sort/select by keyword, create a new folder, move selected images to the new folder, repeat as needed until all images have been re-distributed into a folder hierarchy. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Learning Lightroom
On Oct 4, 2010, at 9:39 PM, John Sessoms wrote: My impression is that Lightroom isn't really intended for moving photos around. Lightroom poses no restrictions on moving files around, but it's not the most efficient way to work. On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Thanks, John. That's not what I had in mind, at least not in perpetuity. Rather I was imagining that immediately after importing all the images into a single folder there would be categories of images that in my mind at least it would be helpful to have in separate folders. I wouldn't envision much moving around after that. The most efficient way to work is to put your original files where you want them on import, then grade and keyword them. Once they're keyworded, you can group them (automatically/dynamically with smart collections, statically with regular collections) for working on. Moving them around in the file system is optional and unnecessary. If you don't like to keep rejects for future possibilities, just delete them ... Lightroom gives you the option of just removing them from the catalog or additionally putting them in the trash. There's little point to moving things around in the file system other than to make the original files easier to backup and replicate. Use Lightroom as the organizer, not the file system. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
My perspective is simple: I'm utterly and terminally bored with new equipment discussions. Cool new things to buy is not why I'm interested in Photography. With one or two small exceptions, I've got all the equipment I need to do Photography and am only interested in new things occasionally when there seems to be an advantage to improve on what I'm doing or add something new to what I'm doing. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: My perspective is simple: I'm utterly and terminally bored with new equipment discussions. Cool new things to buy is not why I'm interested in Photography. With one or two small exceptions, I've got all the equipment I need to do Photography and am only interested in new things occasionally when there seems to be an advantage to improve on what I'm doing or add something new to what I'm doing. What he said. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
On 10/5/2010 4:14 PM, m...@robertstech.com wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgigdigio...@gmail.com wrote: My perspective is simple: I'm utterly and terminally bored with new equipment discussions. Cool new things to buy is not why I'm interested in Photography. With one or two small exceptions, I've got all the equipment I need to do Photography and am only interested in new things occasionally when there seems to be an advantage to improve on what I'm doing or add something new to what I'm doing. What he said. Interesting that you say that, Mark. Not recently, if I understand correctly, you bought into Sony Alpha system with A-850 and lenses. Doubtless you did some research on the matter before committing your money. I wonder if part of that research were equipment discussions... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
I'm getting to be that way as well. I usually drive a car for at least 100,000 miles before even thinking about getting a new one, and that is only when keeping the old car running costs the same as a monthly payment on a new car. What has surprised me a bit is that prime lenses choices are disappearing altogether, replaced by zooms. I'm not too crazy about the bulk and size of zooms. Jeffery On Oct 5, 2010, at 9:09 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: My perspective is simple: I'm utterly and terminally bored with new equipment discussions. Cool new things to buy is not why I'm interested in Photography. With one or two small exceptions, I've got all the equipment I need to do Photography and am only interested in new things occasionally when there seems to be an advantage to improve on what I'm doing or add something new to what I'm doing. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
On Oct 5, 2010, at 9:20, Jeffery Smith wrote: I'm getting to be that way as well. I usually drive a car for at least 100,000 miles before even thinking about getting a new one, and that is only when keeping the old car running costs the same as a monthly payment on a new car. Hell, I usually only buy a car AFTER it has 100,000 miles on it. Then I drive it until it is no longer drivable. 230,000 so far on the Subaru Legacy -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
On 6 October 2010 01:19, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting that you say that, Mark. Not recently, if I understand correctly, you bought into Sony Alpha system with A-850 and lenses. Doubtless you did some research on the matter before committing your money. I wonder if part of that research were equipment discussions... I'm more interested in getting the shot than the gear but unfortunately gear becomes the focus when it's not up to the job and the current Pentax k-mount kit is not up to the jobs that I do. So I'm keen to discuss what equipment's in the pipeline just in case it gets me closer to my equipment requisites. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
I find it helpful to keep abreast of what's new, what's problematic, and what works well. And digital technology progresses rather quickly. To get the best results for my clients, I want to use the best options. I also believe in a replacement cycle. As a relatively heavy volume user, I find that replacing my oldest camera when the market offers a superior choice is sound policy. That way I don't end up being a test case for durability. Paul On Oct 5, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: My perspective is simple: I'm utterly and terminally bored with new equipment discussions. Cool new things to buy is not why I'm interested in Photography. With one or two small exceptions, I've got all the equipment I need to do Photography and am only interested in new things occasionally when there seems to be an advantage to improve on what I'm doing or add something new to what I'm doing. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
On 10/5/2010 4:29 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 6 October 2010 01:19, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting that you say that, Mark. Not recently, if I understand correctly, you bought into Sony Alpha system with A-850 and lenses. Doubtless you did some research on the matter before committing your money. I wonder if part of that research were equipment discussions... I'm more interested in getting the shot than the gear but unfortunately gear becomes the focus when it's not up to the job and the current Pentax k-mount kit is not up to the jobs that I do. So I'm keen to discuss what equipment's in the pipeline just in case it gets me closer to my equipment requisites. I am probably geekier than either of you... Not sure if it is healthy though... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/5/2010 4:14 PM, m...@robertstech.com wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgigdigio...@gmail.com wrote: My perspective is simple: I'm utterly and terminally bored with new equipment discussions. Cool new things to buy is not why I'm interested in Photography. With one or two small exceptions, I've got all the equipment I need to do Photography and am only interested in new things occasionally when there seems to be an advantage to improve on what I'm doing or add something new to what I'm doing. What he said. Interesting that you say that, Mark. Not recently, if I understand correctly, you bought into Sony Alpha system with A-850 and lenses. Doubtless you did some research on the matter before committing your money. I wonder if part of that research were equipment discussions... Nope. My research consisted of almost everything but equipment discussions (on this and in various other fora). But I do, as Godfrey says,now have pretty much the gear I need to do the photography I want to do. I see few equipment purchases in my near future. Maybe another lens for the Sony next year. Maybe not. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
-- From: Jeffery Smith Subject: Re: It ain't like it used to be. I'm getting to be that way as well. I usually drive a car for at least 100,000 miles before even thinking about getting a new one, and that is only when keeping the old car running costs the same as a monthly payment on a new car. What has surprised me a bit is that prime lenses choices are disappearing altogether, replaced by zooms. I'm not too crazy about the bulk and size of zooms. I'll risk incurring the wrath of the people who despise equipment talk to mention that Pentax still makes a very nice selection of prime lenses William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
-- From: m...@robertstech.com Subject: Re: It ain't like it used to be. Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: My perspective is simple: I'm utterly and terminally bored with new equipment discussions. Cool new things to buy is not why I'm interested in Photography. With one or two small exceptions, I've got all the equipment I need to do Photography and am only interested in new things occasionally when there seems to be an advantage to improve on what I'm doing or add something new to what I'm doing. What he said. So, we can't talk about equipment because a few find it boring, and we can't talk about pictures because critiques end up with the critiquer being mass flamed. The PDML no longer has a reason for existing. Doug, you can pull the plug anytime, we're done here. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - sometimes she's still
paul stenquist wrote: Nice informal portrait. Great expression. Good tonality. Paul On Oct 4, 2010, at 6:48 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: http://dougbrewer.posterous.com/sometimes-shes-still enjoy thanks, Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to fix a missing mode dial
Alright, I guess we should branch out a little Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: John Mullan k...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: How to fix a missing mode dial Yew crack me up. jm -- From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: How to fix a missing mode dial On Oct 4, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Ken Waller wrote: ?Wood you do something like this? Probably knot. Saw that coming. - Original Message - From: John Celio n...@neovenator.com Subject: How to fix a missing mode dial ?Wood you do something like this? http://www.flickr.com/photos/vamapaull/5024383806/ John -- http://www.jacelio.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
On 10/5/2010 4:56 PM, m...@robertstech.com wrote: Nope. My research consisted of almost everything but equipment discussions (on this and in various other fora). But I do, as Godfrey says,now have pretty much the gear I need to do the photography I want to do. I see few equipment purchases in my near future. Maybe another lens for the Sony next year. Maybe not. You're a fascinating person, Mark. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - sometimes she's still
On 10/5/2010 12:48 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: http://dougbrewer.posterous.com/sometimes-shes-still enjoy Mischief managed :-) Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Learning Lightroom
A question I've run across. I'm working toward building a RAID system for local storage of image files. I'm paranoid that I don't currently have enough redundancy.[Off-site backup is another thread.] But with regard to having my image files on a local network, I've heard that Lightroom won't work with network drives. Can someone clarify that? The files I'm currently working on will be on the local computer, but storage will be on a network drive. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Learning Lightroom
You can put the image files anywhere you want. LR does not work well when the catalog is stored on a network drive. The catalog wants to live on your local computer. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:17 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: A question I've run across. I'm working toward building a RAID system for local storage of image files. I'm paranoid that I don't currently have enough redundancy.[Off-site backup is another thread.] But with regard to having my image files on a local network, I've heard that Lightroom won't work with network drives. Can someone clarify that? The files I'm currently working on will be on the local computer, but storage will be on a network drive. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO; The Bench at the Winery
From: Jerry in Arizona Taken at the vineyard of Callaghan Winery in Sonoita, AZ.? Pentax K20D, Pentax SMC DA 1:3.5-5.6 18-55mm w/2X telextender.? The plaque recognizes the area as a Backyard Habitat. Jerry http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/_ORI8190A1_peso.jpg Seems like the lower right-hand corner is out of focus, almost as if you took a diagonal from the upper right to the bottom center. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
Gear, for me, is irrelevant until the lack of a particular piece prevents me from capturing an image as I want. Gear discussions help me to keep up with new developments, whether I need them or not. Its all about the output. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com Subject: Re: It ain't like it used to be. My perspective is simple: I'm utterly and terminally bored with new equipment discussions. Cool new things to buy is not why I'm interested in Photography. With one or two small exceptions, I've got all the equipment I need to do Photography and am only interested in new things occasionally when there seems to be an advantage to improve on what I'm doing or add something new to what I'm doing. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: About Studio Lighting kinds
From: Tanya Love Following the advice of the oh-so-wise Thomas Van Veen, I set myself up with Alien Bees when I was in the US for my GFM trip. They were awesome. I then sold off most of my gear when I retired from photography, circa 2007, and have just finished re-enabling myself with a studio set up. I researched the market heavily and was planning on spending the big bucks to make sure that this time I did it correctly. What I ended up doing was going back to Alien Bees! I looked at Elinchrom, I looked at Bowens, I looked at a zillion other brands and the thing that had me back to Alien Bees is the way they are built. They are TOUGH. They are designed to be tough. They also now have an Aussie distributor who happens to only be a few suburbs from me, which is even better! They also come in pink! Hehehe. Oh, and did I mention that they cost wy less than the big name brands? They are also easy to get accessories for - most Soft Boxes etc come with White Lightening or ABs adapters (or can be purchased separately to suit). So, I just set myself up with their Vagabond battery pack (which can be used anywhere in the world!), 2 x 400w ABs in black, and 2 x 800w ABs in pink - the whole lot cost me about aud$2k as compared with about $5-$6k for the equivalent in a Bowens set up. I am now trying to decide if I will go for their Commander system for my radio triggers or Pocket Wizards with the dedicated AB adapter thingy. (I've been using Cactus and they are just that - CACTUS. Absolute SHITE. Don't waste your $$$). The Pocket Wizards have the advantage of being able to transmit directly to my Sekonic light meter, but cost more. ABs also have their new fancy schmancy Einstein heads but they aren't yet available in Australia. Supposedly before Christmas though. Anyways, that's my take, and my plan is that by Christmas I will have my studio set up complete with my new radio triggers, a nice long softbox, possibly a purpose built product table, and of course, my new K-5 to round it all out! Woot! Then, next year, will be the year of the lens for me! I just replaced my cheap Chinese radio-slaves, which come to think were Interfit Branded with Paul C. Buff Cybersync. Didn't go the CyberCommander route yet, but the receivers transmitter I have will work with it if I ever get that far advanced. One thing I found, the cybersync 1/4 mono adapter cable wouldn't work with my older White Lightning 1s, which require a 1/4 stereo wired to tip ring. I contacted Paul C. Buff tech support and as soon as I explained the problem they sent me additional cables wired for the older 1/4 stereo - no charge. I would have willingly paid for those cables, since it is an older tech that is no longer standard. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
Agreed (particularly the LE models). I was thinking more like Sony and Olympus four-thirds. Zooms have gotten much better in the past 30 years. I used to have a Komuranon zoom that was rated as good as a prime lens back in the 1970's. The other zooms often lacked contrast because (I assume) all of the air/glass surfaces of their elements. Jeffery On Oct 5, 2010, at 9:29 AM, William Robb wrote: -- From: Jeffery Smith Subject: Re: It ain't like it used to be. I'm getting to be that way as well. I usually drive a car for at least 100,000 miles before even thinking about getting a new one, and that is only when keeping the old car running costs the same as a monthly payment on a new car. What has surprised me a bit is that prime lenses choices are disappearing altogether, replaced by zooms. I'm not too crazy about the bulk and size of zooms. I'll risk incurring the wrath of the people who despise equipment talk to mention that Pentax still makes a very nice selection of prime lenses William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Learning Lightroom
From: Boris Liberman On 10/5/2010 8:54 AM, Bob W wrote: in general you'll find things easier if you keep everything in one folder and use keywords and collections to organise things within LR. This is the approach I take (LR creates date folders for me as I import, but since I never look into the photo folder using the OS they might as well not be there). Some people do use a small number of folders, say 2 or 3, for large-scale workflow separation and that seems to work ok, but whenever I've heard of people using many folders it's been because they've got themselves into a sticky mess and need help getting out of it. Bob Right. But the stickiness of the mess may be different from instance to instance. Personally, I organize my stuff in folders in such a way that if tomorrow LR goes banana (or orange, or even tomato), I still will have some notion of what is where. So I have a structure something like: \Family Album\ \year \year-month \Travel \Tel Aviv \year-month-day \Jerusalem \year-month-day \International Travel \London 2005 \Norway 2006 \Belgium 2008 \Unsorted \year-month-day -- from where stuff will get moved accordingly and so on. Never had any stickiness problems, me... And LR makes folder/file management pretty straightforward as well. Boris I use the OS to copy images from the card to the computer. Organizationally, I think I keep it pretty simple \Photography\ \2010_Photography\ \20101006_descriptor_whatever_I_was_doing\ - PEF files \working\ - PSD files \output\ - JPEG files I have a TRANSFER directory that I bring the files into and use Bridge to batch rename them [K20D-n, K10D-n, ...] and update the metadata with Copyright and any keywords. I also use Bridge to create the directory, load the files into it and move it into the hierarchy. I do all this before culling the duds because I find it helps me keep track of how high a percentage of good images I'm getting, which in my case is necessary reinforcement. I find it's a good idea to wait awhile before culling the duds so that my emotional attachment to them has time to subside, and I can be more objective in editing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
2010/10/5 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Joe, with all due respect, I think that you might be making a mistake here. What Boris said. a) don't buy a lens and let it rot in your basement b) if a lens is bad and still near warranty end date get it fixed c) if SDM is bad get it fixed all the more d) if you still can't see yourself using it, sell it to someone who will - lenses have feelings, too, you know Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Copie non autorisée
Finally, he withdrew his page. Michel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
From: Charles Robinson On Oct 5, 2010, at 9:20, Jeffery Smith wrote: I'm getting to be that way as well. I usually drive a car for at least 100,000 miles before even thinking about getting a new one, and that is only when keeping the old car running costs the same as a monthly payment on a new car. Hell, I usually only buy a car AFTER it has 100,000 miles on it. Then I drive it until it is no longer drivable. 230,000 so far on the Subaru Legacy I think you get better value looking for something in the 50 - 60K range. That's enough miles for someone else to take the depreciation, but not enough miles for benign neglect of preventive maintenance to adversely affect longevity. I recently sold at 204,000 miles the Mazda I purchased at 59,000 miles. My current Ford Focus Wagon was purchased at 58,000 miles. I expect it to last until at least 200K if not longer. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Off list for a while - and why
My oldest (in terms of years known) and one of two of my very dearest closest long term friends passed away on Friday ... so I'm off to Chicago to her home and family One of the reasons I could talk myself into the expense of the photo show at the Dank last spring was my concern that there would no be many more opportunities to be with her in person... the show became a reason to go to Chicago so Barb wouldn't think I was just hurrying to get there before she passed on... one had hoped things were not as dire as they sounded from her daughter -- Barb always minimalized her troubles and was a real trooper ... She appreciated our lists penchant for puns and herself invented a few wonderful shaggy-dog groaners. No, not the big C - but enough other stuff to cause her to be in and out of hospital for a few months and cause her a lot of discomfort. While I was biting my nails waiting to see if my photo got in she said But you are coming anyway arent you? naturally, I was. How many of us can claim to still be friends and in touch with someone from childhood at my age? (gonna be 74 in December) Particularly sad for me not just for the loss of her friendship but to think of her only being two years my senior ... Her son Johnny took our photo in May and said I should make a grouping of photos of the two of us - so I did that for him on my web page... he took the one of us last May. I've spent the last couple of days gathering more snaps from the past at her daughter's request to be displayed at the wake... it seems that is something of a fashion these days... I won't really be _in_ Chicago ... except to get to the communter rail to take me to the far burbs - I'll be taking the long way around returning (bus and trains) so if I can manage it at all I'll get to see a couple of you . Happily, my young roomie will take care of Ashley . The gallery on my web page with vintage photos is called Barb and Barb Yeah, I was _nee_ Barbara Ann... and is in the Friends and Family section - if you are curious... Sometimes my direct off-list mail doesnt get to people (something to do with my server) so Frank and Paul Stenquist - write me off list will ya? you both should have had email from me. I hope to at least get a cuppa with Christine and I'm going to pick up my photo and the one I traded for from Dank House I'll stay on list long enough to answer stuff - but you can see why I've been quiet for a bit ann http://annsan.smugmug.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
From: P N Stenquist I find it helpful to keep abreast of what's new, what's problematic, and what works well. And digital technology progresses rather quickly. To get the best results for my clients, I want to use the best options. I also believe in a replacement cycle. As a relatively heavy volume user, I find that replacing my oldest camera when the market offers a superior choice is sound policy. That way I don't end up being a test case for durability. Paul Sounds like a plan. I wonder what I should ask for my *ist-D? Should I sell the battery grip seperately? What about the FAJ-18-35? Should I throw in the CF cards as a bonus? Should I offer it all as a kit or part it out? I'm pretty sure I do still have all the boxes and packing material. I don't do eBay, 'cause I don't really understand it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Life Savers
2010/10/3 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com: Comments, critiques, recommendations, and insider trading tips welcome. Buy low, sell high - psst, its a secret so keep it under your hat buy Uranium related shares - prices are going through the ceiling almost as fast as DU charges... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off list for a while - and why
Ann, Please let me be among the first to share my condolences for your loss. Thank you for sharing. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: All right, which one of you is responsible for this?
On 5/10/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: I expect we'll be reading this again on New Year's Day... Mark! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off list for a while - and why
On 5/10/10, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: but you can see why I've been quiet for a bit Take care Ann XX -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
On 10/5/2010 12:04 PM, eckinator wrote: 2010/10/5 Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com: Joe, with all due respect, I think that you might be making a mistake here. What Boris said. a) don't buy a lens and let it rot in your basement b) if a lens is bad and still near warranty end date get it fixed c) if SDM is bad get it fixed all the more d) if you still can't see yourself using it, sell it to someone who will - lenses have feelings, too, you know Ecke Yes, but mostly feelings of rage and disappointment. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
2010/10/5 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: Yes, but mostly feelings of rage and disappointment. you can tell by how far the front element bulges out... fisheye lenses often tend to have distorted views of reality... there were even cases of walleye vision reported in scientific publications... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Life Savers
As it happens, I live less than five miles from a uranium enrichment plant. I can't believe it never occurred to me to enrich myself via uranium. I mean, it's been right there in front of my face the whole time! Glowing, even! On 10/5/2010 11:10 AM, eckinator wrote: 2010/10/3 Ken Wallerkwal...@peoplepc.com: Comments, critiques, recommendations, and insider trading tips welcome. Buy low, sell high - psst, its a secret so keep it under your hat buy Uranium related shares - prices are going through the ceiling almost as fast as DU charges... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
I think you should sell the seperatly, you'll probably only get about $200 for it with or without the grip. If you can sell the grip separately it's gravy. On 10/5/2010 12:09 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: P N Stenquist I find it helpful to keep abreast of what's new, what's problematic, and what works well. And digital technology progresses rather quickly. To get the best results for my clients, I want to use the best options. I also believe in a replacement cycle. As a relatively heavy volume user, I find that replacing my oldest camera when the market offers a superior choice is sound policy. That way I don't end up being a test case for durability. Paul Sounds like a plan. I wonder what I should ask for my *ist-D? Should I sell the battery grip seperately? What about the FAJ-18-35? Should I throw in the CF cards as a bonus? Should I offer it all as a kit or part it out? I'm pretty sure I do still have all the boxes and packing material. I don't do eBay, 'cause I don't really understand it. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Life Savers
On 10/3/2010 5:43 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Comments, critiques, recommendations, and insider trading tips welcome. Buy low, sell high - psst, its a secret so keep it under your hat As my Econ 101 professor said, tell me when it's low, then tell me when it's high. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com Subject: PESO: Life Savers Hi all, Here's a shot I took back in mid-spring -- light streaming through stained glass windows onto the stone facade of a Methodist church in Paducah, KY. http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5048501986/?v=1#/ K-x, Asahi Takumar (Taiwan) 135mm, f/2.8, ISO 200, 1/80 second, aperture priority Comments, critiques, recommendations, and insider trading tips welcome. Best, Walt -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW39 - Sunset
Thanks Dan and Bob W! DagT Den 3. okt. 2010 kl. 23.48 skrev Daniel J. Matyola: Stunning! On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 3:07 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html K20D, da*16-5...@16mm, 1/90s, f/8, ISO200 DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
Feel my wrath, dirty equipment talker! I had the same thought, actually. I'll risk incurring the wrath of the people who despise equipment talk to mention that Pentax still makes a very nice selection of prime lenses William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Learning Lightroom
On Oct 5, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: I personally have found that the Option B or Option C approach is far superior. I use the date subfolder approach, and have one higher-level folder for each year. Using a keyword hierarchy within LR to tag and locate images is far less busywork than using the folder-category approach, both when importing the images and when working with them. LR is designed to serve as a database organization tool for your images; use it that way. Yes, I suppose that there is some small chance that LR may someday go wonky on you. I would not give that more than a passing thought. I've used LR since version 1.0 or 1.1 and have seen no reason for such concerns. The only other reason I can see for the organize-folders-by-category approach is for convenience if/when you ever switch to a different LR-like program. But even then, as part of doing the switch, you could easily let LR create a folder structure for you. E.g., sort/select by keyword, create a new folder, move selected images to the new folder, repeat as needed until all images have been re-distributed into a folder hierarchy. You just might have persuaded me Stan. [1] I can see that limiting subfoldering to date categories could make importing less onerous. [2] As I said in response to another response, I have gotten pretty comfortable relying on tagging to retrieve information. I should also say that the latter is the case in an application in which reconfiguring/revising of the tagging system is easily done, e.g., you want to combine one tag with another? just rename one tag to the other and all the items will be tagged with the other tag. Another thing that makes me comfortable with tagging in this application is that there is a great deal of redundancy in information retrieval, e.g., in addition to tagging, there's a list of items by date of creation/last revision, an alphabetical list, a hierarchical tree structure -- which is actually a graphical representation of the tagging system -- and a very sophisticated search function. I wonder if there is similar, if not so extensive redundancy in LR. Again, I need to get started and stop asking questions, or at least to hold off until I've tried it and have more specific and better informed questions. I appreciate your willingness to respond to my less well informed questions anyway -- your's and everyone else's. Sincerely, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Learning Lightroom
On Oct 5, 2010, at 7:57 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Apparently (almost forgot) I wrote a wordy and lengthy blog entry on this subject. You can read it here: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/03/on-workflow-and-archiving.html if you don't mind its length. Thanks, Boris. Haven't checked it yet, but I'm pretty certain it will be informative. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off list for a while - and why
Best of Luck Ann. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Out of curiosity: A question for the pros
As I hasten to stipulate at every opportunity, I'm pretty new to photography, and I have what may seem to be a stupid question. So, please indulge me. That said, what do all of you real photographers do with images that may be flawed, but still have some redeeming qualities to them. For instance, a shot that's too poorly focused to rescue with sharpening tools and so forth, but does capture a sense of action that is somewhat appealing. Like this one, for example: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7X4Utq1sTP4AoZG2S3S0zQ?feat=directlink As you can see, it's a fairly severe crop, and has been sharpened already to the point where it exhibits a pretty prominent halo as a result. I do have a copy of the image, pre-halo, but not the original file -- which I seem to have deleted somehow. I don't see the image ever being finessed to the point where it's printable, but I hate to just discard it because of the sense of action. Do you all generally keep images like these, or just send them down the memory hole to rid yourself of torment and temptation to return it in futility? Any guidance and/or damnation with faint praise are, as always, greatly appreciated. Best, Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: It ain't like it used to be.
My perspective is simple: I'm utterly and terminally bored with new equipment discussions. Cool new things to buy is not why I'm interested in Photography. With one or two small exceptions, I've got all the equipment I need to do Photography and am only interested in new things occasionally when there seems to be an advantage to improve on what I'm doing or add something new to what I'm doing. What he said. So, we can't talk about equipment because a few find it boring, and we can't talk about pictures because critiques end up with the critiquer being mass flamed. The PDML no longer has a reason for existing. Doug, you can pull the plug anytime, we're done here. William Robb we can always talk about cormorants. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: It ain't like it used to be.
I'm getting to be that way as well. I usually drive a car for at least 100,000 miles before even thinking about getting a new one, and that is only when keeping the old car running costs the same as a monthly payment on a new car. Hell, I usually only buy a car AFTER it has 100,000 miles on it. Then I drive it until it is no longer drivable. 230,000 so far on the Subaru Legacy cars? I can't imagine that I'll ever have a car again. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
On Oct 5, 2010, at 10:58 , Bob W wrote: I'm getting to be that way as well. I usually drive a car for at least 100,000 miles before even thinking about getting a new one, and that is only when keeping the old car running costs the same as a monthly payment on a new car. Hell, I usually only buy a car AFTER it has 100,000 miles on it. Then I drive it until it is no longer drivable. 230,000 so far on the Subaru Legacy cars? I can't imagine that I'll ever have a car again. Segway won't fit in the back seat? Or is it the Hoveround… Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com There is no off position to the genius switch. Genius can, however, be observed as insanity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Life Savers
As it happens, I live less than five miles from a uranium enrichment plant. I can't believe it never occurred to me to enrich myself via uranium. I mean, it's been right there in front of my face the whole time! Glowing, even! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqwS0Ew77WE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Out of curiosity: A question for the pros
As I hasten to stipulate at every opportunity, I'm pretty new to photography, and I have what may seem to be a stupid question. So, please indulge me. That said, what do all of you real photographers do with images that may be flawed, but still have some redeeming qualities to them. For instance, a shot [...] Any guidance and/or damnation with faint praise are, as always, greatly appreciated. that's how you learn to be better. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
While we can't talk about bodies and lenses, there is always photo bags! And Godfrey carefully sidestepped the issue of bags. As you are no doubt aware, he has gone by the name Bagmelda Marcos in the past. ;-) Jeffery On Oct 5, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Bob W wrote: My perspective is simple: I'm utterly and terminally bored with new equipment discussions. Cool new things to buy is not why I'm interested in Photography. With one or two small exceptions, I've got all the equipment I need to do Photography and am only interested in new things occasionally when there seems to be an advantage to improve on what I'm doing or add something new to what I'm doing. What he said. So, we can't talk about equipment because a few find it boring, and we can't talk about pictures because critiques end up with the critiquer being mass flamed. The PDML no longer has a reason for existing. Doug, you can pull the plug anytime, we're done here. William Robb we can always talk about cormorants. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Out of curiosity: A question for the pros
I would post it and say how do y'all like the bokeh in this shot? Dealing with focus and shutter lag when trying to photograph a flying bird (not to mention my poor reflexes) have convinced me never to even try them with my current equipment. So, you'll never hear me criticizing another one's efforts to do something I'm not even willing to try. :-) But all of us have to edit our collection to what is most presentable. Digital has increased the number of acceptable shots, and has also increased the number of turkeys (I'n not talking about a flying bird here). When I look at HCB's collection of work, I am struck by how many photos he didn't publish (the guy exposed a lot of film!). The PAW project was good for several things: (1) it got people and and shooting more regularly, (2) it forced us to edit a week's work down to a single photo, and (3) it allowed us to post some photos that weren't that good without feeling ashamed (it's the best one we got for that week). Jeffery On Oct 5, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: As I hasten to stipulate at every opportunity, I'm pretty new to photography, and I have what may seem to be a stupid question. So, please indulge me. That said, what do all of you real photographers do with images that may be flawed, but still have some redeeming qualities to them. For instance, a shot that's too poorly focused to rescue with sharpening tools and so forth, but does capture a sense of action that is somewhat appealing. Like this one, for example: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7X4Utq1sTP4AoZG2S3S0zQ?feat=directlink As you can see, it's a fairly severe crop, and has been sharpened already to the point where it exhibits a pretty prominent halo as a result. I do have a copy of the image, pre-halo, but not the original file -- which I seem to have deleted somehow. I don't see the image ever being finessed to the point where it's printable, but I hate to just discard it because of the sense of action. Do you all generally keep images like these, or just send them down the memory hole to rid yourself of torment and temptation to return it in futility? Any guidance and/or damnation with faint praise are, as always, greatly appreciated. Best, Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It ain't like it used to be.
On 10/5/2010 1:56 PM, Bob W wrote: My perspective is simple: I'm utterly and terminally bored with new equipment discussions. Cool new things to buy is not why I'm interested in Photography. With one or two small exceptions, I've got all the equipment I need to do Photography and am only interested in new things occasionally when there seems to be an advantage to improve on what I'm doing or add something new to what I'm doing. What he said. So, we can't talk about equipment because a few find it boring, and we can't talk about pictures because critiques end up with the critiquer being mass flamed. The PDML no longer has a reason for existing. Doug, you can pull the plug anytime, we're done here. William Robb we can always talk about cormorants. B Smelly black fish eaters, (nto that there's anything wrong with that). -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: monitor shopping
Tanya, If you can get me the same deal, I'll take two! Thanks for chiming in on this. The U2410 was one of the top 5 professional monitors on cnet.com - which was my first stop on the way down this rabbit hole... It's still in the running... Good to hear that you like it! -c On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: Ok, so I was lucky enough to attend a workshop with Les Walkling who is a really well-known Colour Management guru in Australia (see here: http://www.leswalkling.com/ ). He has close ties with Eizo and so obviously advocates their monitors. However, I didn't have $5-$6k to spend on one (and I needed two!) . I asked him to recommend something that is more within the average pro photographers reach, and he recommended either NEC or Dell. He told me the specific models, but I can't remember them. I will tell you though that the Dell he recommended has been superseded by another model, which is what I ended up with - the U2410. I have two of them set up, side by side, and they KICK ARSE! I also have a hood on them and calibrate them at least once a month with the Xrite i1 system that Les also recommended. I will also tell you a little secret - I only paid for one of them! Dell mucked up and sent us two, a week apart, as per my request but we were only ever invoiced for one. At the same time, there was a stack of people posting on www.wirlpool.net.au (one of my favourite sites for news on all things geeky!) about $6000 laptops that they had ordered/received and never paid for! Of course, those guys weren't revealing their true identities to anyone as Dell has staff who work on the Whirlpool site, but every so often another one crops up, and it seems to me that Dell must be losing a bucketload of $$$ due to their cross-communications and poor recordkeeping. Not that I am complaining! :) Anyways, I love my U2410s, and they were retailing at the time (about 6 months ago) for aud$799, so pretty decently priced for what they are too. The first few batches came out of the factory with issues of a green or red glow over certain areas of the screen, but I have had none of that and the complaints about them have all but disappeared now, and I believe that Dell was replacing them free of charge anyways. They also come with a full calibration report out of the box, which is a nice touch. You can read about them here: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1256560 And if you go here, there are all manner of discussions about great monitors - these guys are all mainly gamers though, so you'll need to take only what is relevant to your own needs when reading: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum/129 Hope that helps! Tan. :) Tanya Love Photographer www.lovebytes.com.au m: 0458 006 740 -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Nielsen Sent: Sunday, 3 October 2010 12:56 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: monitor shopping Hi all, I've decided to quit hunching over my laptop get a real monitor, to be properly calibrated, just like all the cool kids have. Not only are my back eyes killing me, but I think I would stand a better chance of getting some images out of my hard drive and onto paper if I could get a reliable handle on the color management thing. I've done some research, and though I still feel a bit out of my depth on this topic, my initial inclination is toward a NEC P221W http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=NavBarA=getItemDetailQ=; sku=602072is=REGsi=rev#anchorToReadReviews The price is right, and it comes well-recommended. Anyone care to disabuse me of this notion? What am I missing by not going with a $1000+ model, like a higher-end NEC, or Apple Cinema display, or Dell Ultra Sharp...? Are there others I should consider? (I think we can safely leave Eizo out of the discussion for now...) I'd also welcome any suggestions for other resources (online or in print) to educate myself better on the whole topic. Thanks in advance, -c ps: thank you to Fernando for raising the calibration question in a recent thread... I have taken notes... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Out of curiosity: A question for the pros
Apply some blur, some motion striping and call it art... Hell, I seldom throw anything out, (unless it's just silly, like 100 pictures of a doorknob), storage is cheap, and you never know when a great idea for combined images will strike you. Somewhere on film I have a very nice photograph of an egret, with a dead white sky. I also have a number of establishing shots on that same roll of film that had nice blue sky fluffy clouds and interesting Jungle type foliage, Photoshop makes it easy to combine those elements to get an interesting image, where before there were several boring and flawed images. Just don't sell the result to the AP. On 10/5/2010 1:37 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: As I hasten to stipulate at every opportunity, I'm pretty new to photography, and I have what may seem to be a stupid question. So, please indulge me. That said, what do all of you real photographers do with images that may be flawed, but still have some redeeming qualities to them. For instance, a shot that's too poorly focused to rescue with sharpening tools and so forth, but does capture a sense of action that is somewhat appealing. Like this one, for example: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7X4Utq1sTP4AoZG2S3S0zQ?feat=directlink As you can see, it's a fairly severe crop, and has been sharpened already to the point where it exhibits a pretty prominent halo as a result. I do have a copy of the image, pre-halo, but not the original file -- which I seem to have deleted somehow. I don't see the image ever being finessed to the point where it's printable, but I hate to just discard it because of the sense of action. Do you all generally keep images like these, or just send them down the memory hole to rid yourself of torment and temptation to return it in futility? Any guidance and/or damnation with faint praise are, as always, greatly appreciated. Best, Walt -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: About Studio Lighting kinds
John - Did you have the original Buff slaves or the newer ones? They weren't happy with the original ones and had a recall and an upgrade offer to go with the newer models. You might check that out with them. The older models were purchased off the shelf from somewhere in the Far East. The newer ones have circuitry designed by the Paul C Buff people and are much more reliable. -p On 10/5/2010 10:32 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Tanya Love Following the advice of the oh-so-wise Thomas Van Veen, I set myself up with Alien Bees when I was in the US for my GFM trip. They were awesome. I then sold off most of my gear when I retired from photography, circa 2007, and have just finished re-enabling myself with a studio set up. I researched the market heavily and was planning on spending the big bucks to make sure that this time I did it correctly. What I ended up doing was going back to Alien Bees! I looked at Elinchrom, I looked at Bowens, I looked at a zillion other brands and the thing that had me back to Alien Bees is the way they are built. They are TOUGH. They are designed to be tough. They also now have an Aussie distributor who happens to only be a few suburbs from me, which is even better! They also come in pink! Hehehe. Oh, and did I mention that they cost wy less than the big name brands? They are also easy to get accessories for - most Soft Boxes etc come with White Lightening or ABs adapters (or can be purchased separately to suit). So, I just set myself up with their Vagabond battery pack (which can be used anywhere in the world!), 2 x 400w ABs in black, and 2 x 800w ABs in pink - the whole lot cost me about aud$2k as compared with about $5-$6k for the equivalent in a Bowens set up. I am now trying to decide if I will go for their Commander system for my radio triggers or Pocket Wizards with the dedicated AB adapter thingy. (I've been using Cactus and they are just that - CACTUS. Absolute SHITE. Don't waste your $$$). The Pocket Wizards have the advantage of being able to transmit directly to my Sekonic light meter, but cost more. ABs also have their new fancy schmancy Einstein heads but they aren't yet available in Australia. Supposedly before Christmas though. Anyways, that's my take, and my plan is that by Christmas I will have my studio set up complete with my new radio triggers, a nice long softbox, possibly a purpose built product table, and of course, my new K-5 to round it all out! Woot! Then, next year, will be the year of the lens for me! I just replaced my cheap Chinese radio-slaves, which come to think were Interfit Branded with Paul C. Buff Cybersync. Didn't go the CyberCommander route yet, but the receivers transmitter I have will work with it if I ever get that far advanced. One thing I found, the cybersync 1/4 mono adapter cable wouldn't work with my older White Lightning 1s, which require a 1/4 stereo wired to tip ring. I contacted Paul C. Buff tech support and as soon as I explained the problem they sent me additional cables wired for the older 1/4 stereo - no charge. I would have willingly paid for those cables, since it is an older tech that is no longer standard. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3178 - Release Date: 10/05/10 01:34:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off list for a while - and why
So sorry to hear that, Ann. Was she the friend you visited in Zion? FWIW, I leave you with a quote which has been beneficial to me from time to time...Don't know the author... What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others. -p On 10/5/2010 11:06 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: My oldest (in terms of years known) and one of two of my very dearest closest long term friends passed away on Friday ... so I'm off to Chicago to her home and family One of the reasons I could talk myself into the expense of the photo show at the Dank last spring was my concern that there would no be many more opportunities to be with her in person... the show became a reason to go to Chicago so Barb wouldn't think I was just hurrying to get there before she passed on... one had hoped things were not as dire as they sounded from her daughter -- Barb always minimalized her troubles and was a real trooper ... She appreciated our lists penchant for puns and herself invented a few wonderful shaggy-dog groaners. No, not the big C - but enough other stuff to cause her to be in and out of hospital for a few months and cause her a lot of discomfort. While I was biting my nails waiting to see if my photo got in she said But you are coming anyway arent you? naturally, I was. How many of us can claim to still be friends and in touch with someone from childhood at my age? (gonna be 74 in December) Particularly sad for me not just for the loss of her friendship but to think of her only being two years my senior ... Her son Johnny took our photo in May and said I should make a grouping of photos of the two of us - so I did that for him on my web page... he took the one of us last May. I've spent the last couple of days gathering more snaps from the past at her daughter's request to be displayed at the wake... it seems that is something of a fashion these days... I won't really be _in_ Chicago ... except to get to the communter rail to take me to the far burbs - I'll be taking the long way around returning (bus and trains) so if I can manage it at all I'll get to see a couple of you . Happily, my young roomie will take care of Ashley . The gallery on my web page with vintage photos is called Barb and Barb Yeah, I was _nee_ Barbara Ann... and is in the Friends and Family section - if you are curious... Sometimes my direct off-list mail doesnt get to people (something to do with my server) so Frank and Paul Stenquist - write me off list will ya? you both should have had email from me. I hope to at least get a cuppa with Christine and I'm going to pick up my photo and the one I traded for from Dank House I'll stay on list long enough to answer stuff - but you can see why I've been quiet for a bit ann http://annsan.smugmug.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3178 - Release Date: 10/05/10 01:34:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Out of curiosity: A question for the pros
From: Walter Gilbert As I hasten to stipulate at every opportunity, I'm pretty new to photography, and I have what may seem to be a stupid question. So, please indulge me. That said, what do all of you real photographers do with images that may be flawed, but still have some redeeming qualities to them. For instance, a shot that's too poorly focused to rescue with sharpening tools and so forth, but does capture a sense of action that is somewhat appealing. Like this one, for example: I'm not yet a pro, but that's what I'm going to school for, so I'll stick my $0.02 in ... If it's an image I'll never get the opportunity to do a better job on, I keep it. I *might* find something in it that I can use, if nothing more than inspiration to do better work in the future. But good image or not, it's the history of where I was. If it's an image I might get to do again and do a better job, I keep it until I *can* do a better job. Once I've got a better image, I delete the inferior image. Learn what you can to improve your image and once you do improve, delete the dud and keep the better one. I probably should go ahead and delete it right away, but I find it's easier to allow some time to pass before evaluating my images. It seems like as I go back to them later, it's easier to see the real duds and it doesn't cause as much pain to delete them. And sometimes, rarely, I find something of worth I didn't originally see in the image. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Off list for a while - and why
Sorry for you loss, Ann. Thanks for the link to your gallery - very heartwarming to see a friendship last that long. --- Scott Catron - z...@yahoo.com --- http://www.flickr.com/photos/zaui/collections/ - Original Message From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 10:06:27 AM Subject: Off list for a while - and why My oldest (in terms of years known) and one of two of my very dearest closest long term friends passed away on Friday ... so I'm off to Chicago to her home and family One of the reasons I could talk myself into the expense of the photo show at the Dank last spring was my concern that there would no be many more opportunities to be with her in person... the show became a reason to go to Chicago so Barb wouldn't think I was just hurrying to get there before she passed on... one had hoped things were not as dire as they sounded from her daughter -- Barb always minimalized her troubles and was a real trooper ... She appreciated our lists penchant for puns and herself invented a few wonderful shaggy-dog groaners. No, not the big C - but enough other stuff to cause her to be in and out of hospital for a few months and cause her a lot of discomfort. While I was biting my nails waiting to see if my photo got in she said But you are coming anyway arent you? naturally, I was. How many of us can claim to still be friends and in touch with someone from childhood at my age? (gonna be 74 in December) Particularly sad for me not just for the loss of her friendship but to think of her only being two years my senior ... Her son Johnny took our photo in May and said I should make a grouping of photos of the two of us - so I did that for him on my web page... he took the one of us last May. I've spent the last couple of days gathering more snaps from the past at her daughter's request to be displayed at the wake... it seems that is something of a fashion these days... I won't really be _in_ Chicago ... except to get to the communter rail to take me to the far burbs - I'll be taking the long way around returning (bus and trains) so if I can manage it at all I'll get to see a couple of you . Happily, my young roomie will take care of Ashley . The gallery on my web page with vintage photos is called Barb and Barb Yeah, I was _nee_ Barbara Ann... and is in the Friends and Family section - if you are curious... Sometimes my direct off-list mail doesnt get to people (something to do with my server) so Frank and Paul Stenquist - write me off list will ya? you both should have had email from me. I hope to at least get a cuppa with Christine and I'm going to pick up my photo and the one I traded for from Dank House I'll stay on list long enough to answer stuff - but you can see why I've been quiet for a bit ann http://annsan.smugmug.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
