Massaging K-5 RAW files

2010-12-08 Thread Miserere
In case anyone is interested, I've updated my review with some
examples of massaged K-5 images:

http://enticingthelight.com/2010/12/01/review-pentax-k-5/#raw

I was surprised to find out the K-5 only has 1 stop of highlight
overhead because I thought my K10D had a bit more than that. I'm going
to have to run that check again.

At the other end of the spectrum, the shadow recovery that's possible
with this camera is quite amazing. We've seen a few examples online,
but until you do it yourself you don't realise just how incredible it
is. I think it was Boris who wanted full size pics to compare, so
there they are for his and your pixel-peeping pleasure.

Cheers,


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Re: Another victory for common sense

2010-12-08 Thread Miserere
On 8 December 2010 02:48, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote:
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11945081

Common sense would have been not needing the Information
Commissioner to intervene and point out the bloody obvious in the
first place (i.e., Photographhy is not a crime). But I get your point,
David.


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My thoughts on buying cameras

2010-12-08 Thread Larry Colen
After my nth request on facebook for advice on what camera should I buy?, I 
wrote a short bit of advice on the subject this afternoon.  I've got it posted 
at:
http://www.facebook.com/notes/larry-colen/what-camera-should-i-buy/480971259242

If you're on facebook, and have thoughts, advice, or corrections on the 
subject, I'd appreciate your commenting there.

For those people who are not facebook enabled, but still curious, or who like 
pontificating on general principles, this is what I wrote:

Like anyone with a serious interest in photography, I often get asked for 
advice about what camera to buy.
 
First of all, I know almost nothing about point and shoot cameras. The market 
changes every few months, and when I need a small camera I put my DA40 pancake 
lens on my K-x and have a pocketable camera with amazing performance. Most of 
my interest these days is in DSLRs, and cameras with equivalent performance.
 
Cutting to the chase, the short answer is that if you need to ask someone what 
camera to get, then it pretty much doesn't matter.  Just about any DSLR on the 
market is a better camera than you are a photographer. If you are serious about 
photography, what you should do is buy a used DSLR for a few hundred bucks, 
take photos with it for a few months. You'll be best off using it in manual 
mode, learning about aperture, shutter speed, ISO, and how to use the histogram 
and blinkies to check your exposure.  After a while, you'll find out where the 
camera doesn't work for you, and have an idea of what you really need in 
performance so you'll know where you can best spend your money. There's also 
the chance that you'll find out that your $300 used camera works just fine for 
you and rather than spending $1500 on the prosumer body, you can spend that 
money on two or three nice lenses. Or, better yet, pizza and beer.
 
For the long answer, the specifications that the camera companies like to spout 
have almost no relevance to the average person.  Unless you are shooting 
professional sports, you don't need 7 frames per second. Unless you regularly 
print photos bigger than 12x16 you don't need more than 3MP (that 3, not 13, 
not 30). The only really relevant easily measured specification is sensor size, 
and that's only between sensors that were developed at about the same time. The 
performance difference between full frame and APS sensors is two to three 
years in low light sensitivity, and a factor of about three in system cost.  
The difference between APS and 4/3 is similar in low light sensitivity, but 4/3 
costs about the same as APS.
 
The way a camera feels in your hands is vitally important, and incredibly 
personal. The ergonomics of the controls and menus are also important, but 
people can get used to almost anything.
 
Each brand, or lens mount system, has its own strengths and weaknesses. 
Likewise SLR and EVIL (Electronic Viewfinder, Interchangeable Lenses) systems 
each have advantages and disadvantages. Like many still photographers, I had no 
particular interest in the ability to take video with my DSLR, but I've been 
blown away by the quality of video that you can get with a big sensor and good 
lenses.
 
Canon makes decent gear. I don't know a lot about the specifics, especially 
since I've never liked the ergonomics on any of the Canon SLRs that I've used. 
Then again, I've never used them long enough to get used to them and appreciate 
their ergonomic decisions. Canon has the big advantage of being the default 
brand, which means that it's easy to find gear to buy or borrow. The do not, 
however, work with manual focus Canon lenses.
 
I started photography in 1973, during the time when if a pro was shooting 35mm, 
they were using Nikon gear. You'll generally find that if someone has been into 
photography for more than 20 years, most likely their DSLR is Nikon. Nikon is 
reputed to have the best flash system, and if you get one of their better 
bodies, you'll be able to use their AIS mount lenses with the same capabilities 
that they had on the film bodies. In addition, pre-AIS lenses can generally be 
adapted to work on AIS bodies, so with Nikon you've got close to 50 years worth 
of awesome legacy glass to choose from. Unfortunately, the low end Nikon bodies 
aren't so backward compatible.
 
Sony has the cheapest full frame body on the market, and it has amazing sensor 
performance. It's compatible with autofocus Minolta glass. Sony has in body 
image stabilization.
 
I shoot Pentax because at the time I bought my first DSLR you got the best 
performance for your money at the low end of the market with Pentax gear.  
About a year ago, i bought a Pentax K-x and have been amazed and thrilled at 
its performance, especially for a body that you can buy for less than $500. DxO 
ranks its sensor performance among the best in APS sensors, out performing 
$1500 cameras such as the Canon 7D. I regularly use ISO 6400 on it to 
photograph dancers and musicians in very 

RE: K-5 Focusing Speed -- My Opinion [Scanned][Spam score:8%]

2010-12-08 Thread John Whittingham
Possibly because the AF really isn't *that* bad on Pentax DSLR's, I've been 
using a friends N***n D300 for a while and never really noticed any major 
improvement in overall speed in normal ligh.

Regards,

John

http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/johnwhittingham
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On 6 December 2010 09:05, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 As part of my on-going K-5 review, I updated the focusing section:

 http://enticingthelight.com/2010/12/01/review-pentax-k-5/#focusing

 My conclusions about focusing speed seem to differe from everyone
 else's. Opinions welcomed!

 Cheers,


—M.

I got to test out Mark's DA* 16-50mm f/2.8 this afternoon and the
consensus was that the fastest cameras were, in order of increasing
speed: K10D, K20D and K-5...in bright light. In low light, I found no
appreciable difference between the K10D and the K-5 as far as speed or
accuracy were concerned; I didn't try out the K20D in low light.

I've updated the text in my review to reflect my SDM testing. I find
my results curious after reading so much about the K-5's blazing AF
speed.

This wouldn't keep me from buying the camera as it has many other
improvements, and I will note that I have never been a member of the
Bash the K10D AF Club.

Anybody else have a different experience to mine?


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PESO -- Trees and Stars

2010-12-08 Thread P. J. Alling

I'm not sure if this is a high concept of I;m just high on fatigue.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20treesandstars.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax A 24mm f2.8 w/Slik U8000 tripod.

Notes: The camera emphasizes colors I didn't see hence the conversion to 
BW, (with green filter applied), to attempt to render the scene as I 
experienced it.  I think I failed. Resizing the image to web to web size 
didn't help it either.


As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: Massaging K-5 RAW files

2010-12-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Miserere, have you noticed an additional bonus of shadow recovery - no 
purple fringing at all???


On 12/8/2010 10:33 AM, Miserere wrote:

In case anyone is interested, I've updated my review with some
examples of massaged K-5 images:

http://enticingthelight.com/2010/12/01/review-pentax-k-5/#raw

I was surprised to find out the K-5 only has 1 stop of highlight
overhead because I thought my K10D had a bit more than that. I'm going
to have to run that check again.

At the other end of the spectrum, the shadow recovery that's possible
with this camera is quite amazing. We've seen a few examples online,
but until you do it yourself you don't realise just how incredible it
is. I think it was Boris who wanted full size pics to compare, so
there they are for his and your pixel-peeping pleasure.

Cheers,


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RE: PESO -- Trees and Stars

2010-12-08 Thread Bob W
 I'm not sure if this is a high concept of I;m just high on fatigue.
 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20treesandstars.html
 
 Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax A 24mm f2.8 w/Slik U8000 tripod.
 
 Notes: The camera emphasizes colors I didn't see hence the conversion
 to
 BW, (with green filter applied), to attempt to render the scene as I
 experienced it.  I think I failed. Resizing the image to web to web
 size
 didn't help it either.
 
 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

that's a good shot - no  need to talk it down.

B


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Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor

2010-12-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Well, so I paid Pentax Israel a visit this morning. After a cup of 
coffee (thank you, dear Pentax, it was just in time) on the house and 40 
mins of wait my camera is with me again. The sensor is clean.


But... These blobs that can be seen in f/11 and smaller are still there. 
Pentax rep suggested that I can submit my camera for deep clean that 
involves taking it apart, etc. It wouldn't be free of charge of course, 
unlike the procedure that was performed today.


Since I am still to loose a shot to these blobs (11,000 clicks on my 
shutter count so far), I could really care less about them. So I thanked 
them and walked away happily.


But for sake of statistics - at least one K-7 has the blobs although I 
cannot say with all certainty whether it came this way or it is a result 
of some (mis)use on my part.


I am as happy a camper as one can be with K-7 these days.

HTH.

Boris

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OT - Mamiya Cxxx TLRs and TLR in general

2010-12-08 Thread Thibouille
Got myself (not arrived yet) a Mamiya C330 TLR (with 80/2.8) for a
couple reasons:

* I want to do film
* Medium format
* 6x4,5 is bigger than 35mm but if going MF, just do it completely.
6x4,5 is somewhat small IMO
* The challenge of using a TLR, waist level finder (although prism is
available as well)
* The challenge of square format, 6x6
* Interchangeable lenses on a TLR (quite rare)
* Mechanical beast, easier to repair than electronic ones if it needs to.

Now, I know Darren have one, he wrote so a couple weeks ago.
Darren and others, what could you advise as for usage of such cameras?
Like usage with or without tripod, what kind of subjects, 120 film handling etc.

Thank you much.

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RE: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor

2010-12-08 Thread Bob W
 Well, so I paid Pentax Israel a visit this morning. After a cup of
 coffee (thank you, dear Pentax, it was just in time) on the house and
 40
 mins of wait my camera is with me again. The sensor is clean.
 
 But... These blobs that can be seen in f/11 and smaller are still
 there.
 Pentax rep suggested that I can submit my camera for deep clean that
 involves taking it apart, etc. It wouldn't be free of charge of course,
 unlike the procedure that was performed today.

how old is your k-5? Surely it is still within warranty, so if there are
'blobs' that shouldn't be there they should be fixing them under warranty,
not trying to make you pay to have them removed.

B


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BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)

2010-12-08 Thread Thibouille
Just understood how cheaper it was to process film in house.
Got material from my brother, just needed the chemical part.
Got developper + fixer for 30 Euros, dunno if it is about a right
price or not...

I can process 40 35mm films with that, compared to 6 euros per film
when dropped to my reseller. Ouch !

BTW, just found out there're a couple nice apps helping, at least on iPhone.
The Massive Dev Chart, ( http://www.digitaltruth.com ) is available
with complete database of developper/film times, stopwatch etc.
Very impressive.

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Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor

2010-12-08 Thread Boris Liberman

On 12/9/2010 12:24 PM, Bob W wrote:

how old is your k-5? Surely it is still within warranty, so if there are
'blobs' that shouldn't be there they should be fixing them under warranty,
not trying to make you pay to have them removed.

B


Bob, it is K-7 and it is 1 year 3 months old. I cannot possibly prove to 
Pentax Israel that this is a defect to be fixed under warranty and not a 
result of some unfortunate action on my part. The warranty is 2 years, 
so I have 9 more month left, give or take. It will involve major amount 
of nerve cell burned on my part and very questionable benefit 
thereafter. At the moment, this camera is well put together and 
everything works as it should. If, e.g. they put it back together badly, 
which is probable, I will have major grief on my hands. At the moment I 
can still shoot and be happy.


You're theoretically right, but I don't think I can put your suggestion 
to practice. /sad face/


Boris


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Re: At least they're my photos

2010-12-08 Thread Boris Liberman

On 12/8/2010 9:41 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

From one of the costume contests as part of the dance workshop last weekend. 
Not my best work,  and it would have been nice if I'd actually gotten photo 
credits, but my photos none the less:


http://www.thefeast.com/sanfrancisco/shopping/FEAST-SHOP-SF-Photos-The-Golden-Gate-Pin-Up-Contest-111493864.html

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Congratulations. But why no credits nonetheless???

Boris



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Re: OT: Russian names required.

2010-12-08 Thread Leon Altoff
Hello All,

I'd like to thank everyone for their ideas both on and off the list.
Those that were not useful made us smile, though I'm not sure we have
a conclusion as yet.

We now have a better idea of Russian names and will investigate the
names of the bells at our tower as well to see if any of them fit the
bill (though I know one is called Thomas and that doesn't fit at all).

Leon

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Re: Massaging K-5 RAW files

2010-12-08 Thread SV Hovland
You could turn on highlight correction. It will probably give you 2 stops of 
highlight overhead and with the low shadow noise on K-5 there is little to 
loose.

Stig Vidar Hovland



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I was surprised to find out the K-5 only has 1 stop of highlight
overhead because I thought my K10D had a bit more than that. I'm going
to have to run that check again.


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Re: PESO -- Trees and Stars

2010-12-08 Thread Boris Liberman

On 12/9/2010 12:16 PM, Bob W wrote:

that's a good shot - no  need to talk it down.

B


Peter, I agree with Bob. It's a good shoot indeed. No need to say 
anything except basically present it as it speaks well for itself.


Boris.

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Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)

2010-12-08 Thread Gasha

Welcome to the club!!!

I discovered these nice things about 5 years ago. So far used only 
Rodinal, but i hope to try also Ilfosol.


Gasha

Thibouille wrote:

Just understood how cheaper it was to process film in house.
Got material from my brother, just needed the chemical part.
Got developper + fixer for 30 Euros, dunno if it is about a right
price or not...

I can process 40 35mm films with that, compared to 6 euros per film
when dropped to my reseller. Ouch !

BTW, just found out there're a couple nice apps helping, at least on iPhone.
The Massive Dev Chart, ( http://www.digitaltruth.com ) is available
with complete database of developper/film times, stopwatch etc.
Very impressive.




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Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)

2010-12-08 Thread drew
I know it's a bit 'old school' but I use an app on my Palm called Foto
Timer, http://www.jan-exner.de/software/fototimer.html it allows interval
setting (for inversions etc.) with alarms. It also allows chained
processes with pauses etc, so you can chain multiple processes used with a
pause in between each.
If anyone is still using a Palm it's well worth a download.

Drew.




 Just understood how cheaper it was to process film in house.
 Got material from my brother, just needed the chemical part.
 Got developper + fixer for 30 Euros, dunno if it is about a right
 price or not...

 I can process 40 35mm films with that, compared to 6 euros per film
 when dropped to my reseller. Ouch !

 BTW, just found out there're a couple nice apps helping, at least on
 iPhone.
 The Massive Dev Chart, ( http://www.digitaltruth.com ) is available
 with complete database of developper/film times, stopwatch etc.
 Very impressive.

 --
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Re: Massaging K-5 RAW files

2010-12-08 Thread paul stenquist
I found that highlight correction yields quite a bit more overhead, but I 
haven't really needed it. I don't test, but I do shoot a lot. And after 
shooting more than 1000 frames with the k-5, I find that I almost never 
encounter a histogram that touches the edges of the scale in either direction, 
so I have plenty of latitude to work with. 
Paul
On Dec 8, 2010, at 5:50 AM, SV Hovland wrote:

 You could turn on highlight correction. It will probably give you 2 stops of 
 highlight overhead and with the low shadow noise on K-5 there is little to 
 loose.
 
 Stig Vidar Hovland
 
 
 
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 I was surprised to find out the K-5 only has 1 stop of highlight
 overhead because I thought my K10D had a bit more than that. I'm going
 to have to run that check again.
 
 
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Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)

2010-12-08 Thread paul stenquist
Old school is a timer on the wall, an interval stopwatch, or counting 
silently to yourself:-).
Paul
On Dec 8, 2010, at 7:01 AM, d...@rileyelf.free-online.co.uk wrote:

 I know it's a bit 'old school' but I use an app on my Palm called Foto
 Timer, http://www.jan-exner.de/software/fototimer.html it allows interval
 setting (for inversions etc.) with alarms. It also allows chained
 processes with pauses etc, so you can chain multiple processes used with a
 pause in between each.
 If anyone is still using a Palm it's well worth a download.
 
 Drew.
 
 
 
 
 Just understood how cheaper it was to process film in house.
 Got material from my brother, just needed the chemical part.
 Got developper + fixer for 30 Euros, dunno if it is about a right
 price or not...
 
 I can process 40 35mm films with that, compared to 6 euros per film
 when dropped to my reseller. Ouch !
 
 BTW, just found out there're a couple nice apps helping, at least on
 iPhone.
 The Massive Dev Chart, ( http://www.digitaltruth.com ) is available
 with complete database of developper/film times, stopwatch etc.
 Very impressive.
 
 --
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 --
 Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45,
 DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ...
 Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7
 Programing: Delphi 2009
 
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PESO - Black and White Madonnas

2010-12-08 Thread frank theriault
I wish I had a bit more detail in the black ones (maybe a bit of fill
might have helped?).  Oh well...

Spotted in a feminist bookstore here in Toronto:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/12/black-and-white-madonnas.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

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Re: PAW48 - Crowd

2010-12-08 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 9:46 AM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:
 http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
 K20D, DA15mm, 1/90s, f/5.6, ISO800

Outstanding!

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Re: PESO - Another Guy with a Big Furry Hat

2010-12-08 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:09 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Frank, this should make a great winter series, as long as you don't
 get chased by a mad hatter.

 PS the kids seem to like those hats that look like work socks around here.

Yeah, kids are wearing those around here, too.  Looking for one for this series.

No one's going to chase me, because part of this game is that I
always ask permission first.  Don't know why, it's just the way I've
decided to do it.

Thanks for the comment, and thanks to everyone else who commented.

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Re: PESO - Into the Calm

2010-12-08 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I really like this one.  Although I think a better title is Wake Up. ;-)

groan

;-)

Thanks, Steve, and thanks to everyone else who commented.  Much appreciated.

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Re: PESO - Into the Calm

2010-12-08 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 3:11 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 You're getting to be annoyingly good at nature photography.  What's next
 landscapes?

If it pisses you off, it's worth working on landscapes.

;-)

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DA 35mm F2.4 out in the (snow) fields

2010-12-08 Thread Roman Melihhov
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20101208141649
^^^ After stormy weeks of heavy snow there is finally a shed of light
and I'm out with DA35mm, out in the snowfields to finish lens review in
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Re: DA 35mm F2.4 out in the (snow) fields

2010-12-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Roman, did you use some kind of fill flash that bounced off the very 
small snow flakes?


Lovely photographs... Especially looking outside my window - +25C and 
sun shining all over the skies...


Boris

On 12/8/2010 2:36 PM, Roman Melihhov wrote:

http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20101208141649
^^^ After stormy weeks of heavy snow there is finally a shed of light
and I'm out with DA35mm, out in the snowfields to finish lens review in
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Re: PESO - Black and White Madonnas

2010-12-08 Thread Boris Liberman
Frank, if you have LightRoom, you could use gradient filter tool to 
apply very gentle +Ev correction to both left and right hand sides of 
the shot.


Boris


On 12/8/2010 2:29 PM, frank theriault wrote:

I wish I had a bit more detail in the black ones (maybe a bit of fill
might have helped?).  Oh well...

Spotted in a feminist bookstore here in Toronto:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/12/black-and-white-madonnas.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

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Re: DA 35mm F2.4 out in the (snow) fields

2010-12-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
Very nice.  It does look like some sparkles sprinkled on the snow.

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Roman, did you use some kind of fill flash that bounced off the very small
 snow flakes?

 Lovely photographs... Especially looking outside my window - +25C and sun
 shining all over the skies...

 Boris

 On 12/8/2010 2:36 PM, Roman Melihhov wrote:

 http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20101208141649
 ^^^ After stormy weeks of heavy snow there is finally a shed of light
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Re: Massaging K-5 RAW files

2010-12-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
It could be really hard to know which ones to delete.  I certainly
would have tossed the original.

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:11 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 I found that highlight correction yields quite a bit more overhead, but I 
 haven't really needed it. I don't test, but I do shoot a lot. And after 
 shooting more than 1000 frames with the k-5, I find that I almost never 
 encounter a histogram that touches the edges of the scale in either 
 direction, so I have plenty of latitude to work with.
 Paul
 On Dec 8, 2010, at 5:50 AM, SV Hovland wrote:

 You could turn on highlight correction. It will probably give you 2 stops of 
 highlight overhead and with the low shadow noise on K-5 there is little to 
 loose.

 Stig Vidar Hovland


 
 Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av Miserere 
 [miser...@gmail.com]
 Sendt: 8. desember 2010 09:33
 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Emne: Massaging K-5 RAW files

 I was surprised to find out the K-5 only has 1 stop of highlight
 overhead because I thought my K10D had a bit more than that. I'm going
 to have to run that check again.


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PESO : snowing in Paris

2010-12-08 Thread Madame RD
it's been snowing for some time and I shot from my window ... I like the 
unusual frame  but you might not 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/5243352309/#/photos/la_meduse/5243352309/lightbox/

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Re: My thoughts on buying cameras

2010-12-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele



Larry Colen wrote:




Canon makes decent gear. I don't know a lot about the specifics, especially 
since I've never liked the ergonomics on any of the Canon SLRs that I've used. 
Then again, I've never used them long enough to get used to them and appreciate 
their ergonomic decisions. Canon has the big advantage of being the default 
brand, which means that it's easy to find gear to buy or borrow. The do not, 
however, work with manual focus Canon lenses.



Well, but, they DO work with Pentax manual focus lenses with an 
adaptor...  If they didn't I wouldn't have met you in Chicago :-)
They don't autofocus, of course .  And it doesn't tell you the real 
opening you shot at on the exif ...


thanks to Cotty for  revealing this possibility .  



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Re: Massaging K-5 RAW files

2010-12-08 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 8, 2010, at 2:33, Miserere wrote:

 In case anyone is interested, I've updated my review with some
 examples of massaged K-5 images:
 
 http://enticingthelight.com/2010/12/01/review-pentax-k-5/#raw
 

Fascinating stuff, but holy hell whatever is serving up your websites is 
slwww.  :-(

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Re: PESO : snowing in Paris

2010-12-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Madame RD wrote:

it's been snowing for some time and I shot from my window ... I like 
the unusual frame  but you might not 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/5243352309/#/photos/la_meduse/5243352309/lightbox/ 



dominique

I _kinda_ like it  looks like you shot from a (moving?)  seat of a 
car... or a bus   hmmm but I like the shot overall , more intersting
than the other snow shots... Did you look at it at all cropped a bit ?   
I think I might have cropped a sliver off the top and enough
off the left side and bottom to have the edges of the frame sharp... the 
elements in the photo are nice.


and I reay like this shot of clouds (extra l's intentional)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/5243352309/lightbox/

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Re: Massaging K-5 RAW files

2010-12-08 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On Dec 8, 2010, at 2:33, Miserere wrote:
 http://enticingthelight.com/2010/12/01/review-pentax-k-5/#raw


 Fascinating stuff, but holy hell whatever is serving up your websites is 
 slwww.  :-(

It loaded quickly for me... fully rendered in 2 or 3 seconds (on a
fast corporate network in the US).

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Re: Good/Bad news about my all-green K-7

2010-12-08 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 7, 2010, at 22:35, Christine Aguila wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 
 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/new_standards_holiday_show/index.html
 
 
 Love this one!  Great expression and composition!
 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP6951_large.html
 

Probably my favorite shot, too.  

Just for the fun of it, here it is straight out of the camera: 
http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP6951.jpg

 This is a very fine set, Charles.  Rendering looks good.  Exposure looks 
 good. Excellent work.  Cheers, Christine 

Thanks, Christine!  I'm glad I didn't just pack the broken camera into the bag 
and sit this one out, photographically speaking.

..Although part of my motivation to keep going was that the gentleman behind 
the bass had put me (and daughter) on the list to get in and I felt I owed 
him.

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Re: Russian names required.

2010-12-08 Thread John Mullan
It has probably already been said, but it doesn't really matter what you 
name a cat as they will never come when you call it.  As for Thomas, there's 
always Thomasina.


jm

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Hello All,

I'd like to thank everyone for their ideas both on and off the list.
Those that were not useful made us smile, though I'm not sure we have
a conclusion as yet.

We now have a better idea of Russian names and will investigate the
names of the bells at our tower as well to see if any of them fit the
bill (though I know one is called Thomas and that doesn't fit at all).

Leon

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Re: Massaging K-5 RAW files

2010-12-08 Thread Boris Liberman

On 12/8/2010 4:49 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

It loaded quickly for me... fully rendered in 2 or 3 seconds (on a
fast corporate network in the US).


Less than 10 seconds here in my office in Ramat Gan.

Boris

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Re: Massaging K-5 RAW files

2010-12-08 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 8, 2010, at 8:49, Matthew Hunt wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On Dec 8, 2010, at 2:33, Miserere wrote:
 http://enticingthelight.com/2010/12/01/review-pentax-k-5/#raw
 
 
 Fascinating stuff, but holy hell whatever is serving up your websites is 
 slwww.  :-(
 
 It loaded quickly for me... fully rendered in 2 or 3 seconds (on a
 fast corporate network in the US).
 

Hmm... I'm at a U.S. ISP with a multi-gigabit feed to the Internet and 
approximately a 40-megabit connection into the office segment.   I'll try it 
again later, maybe something was just gumming up the works.

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Re: Massaging K-5 RAW files

2010-12-08 Thread Boris Liberman

On 12/8/2010 4:51 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

Hmm... I'm at a U.S. ISP with a multi-gigabit feed to the Internet
and approximately a 40-megabit connection into the office segment.
I'll try it again later, maybe something was just gumming up the
works.

-Charles


You're now a hated man, Charles /grin/.

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Re: 10th GFM-PDML Anniversary

2010-12-08 Thread David J Brooks
Did not know it was the 10th, but, I am planning on going. The main
reason i missed the past two years was the bus company i was with had
a bonus if you did not miss any days. The company i had to go work
with this year does not have these things, so there is nothing to hold
me back from a week vacation other than the fact its and expensive 4
days.:-)

Although it would be great to see the gang again., If not possibly the
PJ weekend.

Dave

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Re: Massaging K-5 RAW files

2010-12-08 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 8, 2010, at 8:54, Boris Liberman wrote:

 On 12/8/2010 4:51 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:
 Hmm... I'm at a U.S. ISP with a multi-gigabit feed to the Internet
 and approximately a 40-megabit connection into the office segment.
 I'll try it again later, maybe something was just gumming up the
 works.
 
 -Charles
 
 You're now a hated man, Charles /grin/.
 

It does distort my perspective, though.  I immediately assume that a 
slow-loading page is due to the other end - sometimes there can be routing 
issues or any number of other factors that slow it up.

The main page loaded just like that but the full-sized images (like that 
AMAZING 6-stop-underexposure recovery image) were taking a long time to render. 
 Better the 2nd time around.

The amount of available shadow recovery on the K5 will push me over the edge 
whenever this camera gets close to $1000.  Wow.

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Re: Massaging K-5 RAW files

2010-12-08 Thread Boris Liberman

On 12/8/2010 4:58 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

The amount of available shadow recovery on the K5 will push me over
the edge whenever this camera gets close to $1000.  Wow.

-Charles


I seem to be having another change of mind. K-7 seems to work and K10D 
seems to work too. My most recent experiments with low light show that 
K-7 is not spectacular but very decent, especially with the help of 
Topaz Denoise.


I will probably wait just like you plan to, to see what level of prices 
K-5 settles in once our usual outlets start offering it. Presently it is 
either in Coming soon or To be announced state except one shop which 
has the reputation of stay a cannon shot away from it.


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Re: 10th GFM-PDML Anniversary

2010-12-08 Thread Kenton Brede
Christine, what is GFM?  And what are you hoping to go to?  Just curious.
Thanks,
Kent

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Re: Massaging K-5 RAW files

2010-12-08 Thread Theodore Beilby
I've never noticed Miserere's site being slow to load. 

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Re: OT - Mamiya Cxxx TLRs and TLR in general

2010-12-08 Thread Darren Addy
Congrats on your purchase!

The Mamiya TLR has a special place in my heart. I was given two C33s
by the wife of a cousin. They were her father's wedding cameras and he
had died of a massive heart attack. It was a very generous gift and
put my on the path to professional photography, for a time. I later
added an older Mamiyaflex (C3) with a kit of lenses, so had a 65mm,
80mm, 135mm and 180mm in the stable. I never had a prism, but did
have porrofinders, which use mirrors rather than prism.

I have waist level finders for them, but rarely used them, except in
the camera room where the built in magnifier would allow for close
examination of the ground glass for focusing when on a tripod.

As far as tips, I can't think of many. One would be to scribe lines
(or add thin tape) to the ground glass in a tic-tac-toe pattern to
show you the 6x4.5 vertical and horizontal borders. Shooting,
composing, and printing square is fine, but if you want something to
fit in a standard frame it is nice to know where your edges are.
Secondly, I'd advise the use of hoods on your lenses (you can fashion
your own fairly easily). The lack of multi-coating on older lenses
will benefit from the forgotten use of a lens hood. Your C330 has the
ability to use 220 or 120 film (24 exposures, rather than 12). Which
can be very nice - fewer film changes. I believe on the C330 you just
rotate a plate inside the back to move the camera from 120 to 220
capability - effects the film counter mostly.

The main thing to keep in mind when using a TLR is the parallax
problem between the taking lens and the seeing lens. This is
really only an issue when shooting close. (By the way the Mamiya TLR
is superb at shooting close with its built-in bellows system. You can
really rack the lens out there.) When you do an indicator will drop
down in the finder to show you where the true top of the frame is
(assuming you have set the lens focal length correctly on the camera -
there is a knob for that purpose). That's nice to know, but you are
losing the bottom of the frame completely (out of the viewfinder).
Your other option (for tripod mounted shots) is to use a parallax
corrector, which is essentially a scissors jack that lets you compose
and then raise the camera to move the taking lens to the postion that
the seeing lens was. Then you take the shot.

This camera is also superb for double/multiple exposures, so if that
is an area that interests you (like it does lomo shooters). To do
that, don't crank the film advance... just cock the shutter on the
lens manually and trip the shutter manually. This technique can be
combined with masks in front of the lens, which we used in weddings
for the old couple looking down on their own candlelit wedding
ceremony shots. You can laugh now, but it was a big seller. :)

The other big strength of this camera is that it is SO quiet. No
mirror flopping, just the tiniest snip of the leaf shutter. This is
a big plus for being as unobtrusive as possible (as is the waist
level, should you take advantage of it. Photographer looking down is
less noticable than photographer looking through a camera pointed at
someone.) While it is a big camera, using it at waist level
unobtrusively would make it a good medium format street photography
camera.

The leaf shutter has another huge advantage over focal plane shutters,
which is flash sync at any shutter speed. (No curtain exposing the
frame in sections, requiring a certain minimum shutter speed). The
reasons for wanting to do this will probably be lost on most younger
shooters today, but (for example) it allows you to use fill flash
outdoors without getting the artificial look of too much flash fill.
Google leaf shutter and sync at any shutter speed to learn more.

Wanna see something really clever? I plan on trying this, since I have
more than one body:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/spiffytumbleweed/3436321854/in/faves-pixelsmithy/

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Re: OT - Mamiya Cxxx TLRs and TLR in general

2010-12-08 Thread Jeffery Smith
I had one back in the 70's. It's a big camera, a bit harder to handle than a 
Rollei TLR because of the size of the body and the location of the focusing 
knobs. I would opt for a tripod. It's pretty hard to do any sort of street 
photography with a TLR viewfinder. You'll need a light meter (which are getting 
harder to find these days).

Jeffery

On Dec 8, 2010, at 4:19 AM, Thibouille wrote:

 Got myself (not arrived yet) a Mamiya C330 TLR (with 80/2.8) for a
 couple reasons:
 
 * I want to do film
 * Medium format
 * 6x4,5 is bigger than 35mm but if going MF, just do it completely.
 6x4,5 is somewhat small IMO
 * The challenge of using a TLR, waist level finder (although prism is
 available as well)
 * The challenge of square format, 6x6
 * Interchangeable lenses on a TLR (quite rare)
 * Mechanical beast, easier to repair than electronic ones if it needs to.
 
 Now, I know Darren have one, he wrote so a couple weeks ago.
 Darren and others, what could you advise as for usage of such cameras?
 Like usage with or without tripod, what kind of subjects, 120 film handling 
 etc.
 
 Thank you much.
 
 -- 
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Re: Massaging K-5 RAW files

2010-12-08 Thread Miserere
On 8 December 2010 05:14, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Miserere, have you noticed an additional bonus of shadow recovery - no
 purple fringing at all???

That was the first thing I noticed: No purple fringing. Of course, had
I remembered to turn on the CA correction feature there should have
been no PF anyway.


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Re: Massaging K-5 RAW files

2010-12-08 Thread P N Stenquist

On Dec 8, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Miserere wrote:

 On 8 December 2010 05:14, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Miserere, have you noticed an additional bonus of shadow recovery - no
 purple fringing at all???
 
 That was the first thing I noticed: No purple fringing. Of course, had
 I remembered to turn on the CA correction feature there should have
 been no PF anyway.
 
 
Is CA correction for jpeg only, or does it work with RAW files? 
Paul
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Re: Russian names required.

2010-12-08 Thread Jeffery Smith
My cat comes when the electric can opener calls her.

Jeffery

On Dec 8, 2010, at 8:50 AM, John Mullan wrote:

 It has probably already been said, but it doesn't really matter what you name 
 a cat as they will never come when you call it.  As for Thomas, there's 
 always Thomasina.
 
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Re: OT - Mamiya Cxxx TLRs and TLR in general

2010-12-08 Thread P N Stenquist
I had Mamiyaflex C2 and a C220. I always wanted the C330, which has some sort 
of parallax correction, so the upper lens shows you the frame for the lower 
lens. Shot with the TLR for many years and made quite a bit of money with it. I 
used just the 80mm lens for most of that time, but later added the 250mm. It 
takes a while to get used to seeing things reversed in the viewinder. That was 
especially difficult shooting pans of race cars, because they came through my 
viewfinder from the wrong end! But it was a great camera, and the lenses were 
excellent for the time.
Paul
On Dec 8, 2010, at 5:19 AM, Thibouille wrote:

 Got myself (not arrived yet) a Mamiya C330 TLR (with 80/2.8) for a
 couple reasons:
 
 * I want to do film
 * Medium format
 * 6x4,5 is bigger than 35mm but if going MF, just do it completely.
 6x4,5 is somewhat small IMO
 * The challenge of using a TLR, waist level finder (although prism is
 available as well)
 * The challenge of square format, 6x6
 * Interchangeable lenses on a TLR (quite rare)
 * Mechanical beast, easier to repair than electronic ones if it needs to.
 
 Now, I know Darren have one, he wrote so a couple weeks ago.
 Darren and others, what could you advise as for usage of such cameras?
 Like usage with or without tripod, what kind of subjects, 120 film handling 
 etc.
 
 Thank you much.
 
 -- 
 Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs
 --
 Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45,
 DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ...
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Re: OT: A little music for the Holiday Season

2010-12-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
There was no nudity, just a bit of cleavage.  It was in bad taste, but
not really sexual.  Just a very short flick of a Boob trying to play
a song with her boobs and a straw.

Dan

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 2:25 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 This video has been removed as a violation of YouTube's policy on nudity or
 sexual content.

 It didn't last long.

 On 12/7/2010 1:34 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 This woman has real talent:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVpjHXPT1ocfeature=player_embedded

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Re: OT - Mamiya Cxxx TLRs and TLR in general

2010-12-08 Thread Jeffery Smith
As I recall, the C330 deals with parallax by having a needle enter the 
viewfinder field, cropping part of the field that would be cropped due to 
parallax. Not very sophisticated, but it worked.

Jeffery


On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:25 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:

 I had Mamiyaflex C2 and a C220. I always wanted the C330, which has some sort 
 of parallax correction, so the upper lens shows you the frame for the lower 
 lens. Shot with the TLR for many years and made quite a bit of money with it. 
 I used just the 80mm lens for most of that time, but later added the 250mm. 
 It takes a while to get used to seeing things reversed in the viewinder. That 
 was especially difficult shooting pans of race cars, because they came 
 through my viewfinder from the wrong end! But it was a great camera, and the 
 lenses were excellent for the time.
 Paul
 On Dec 8, 2010, at 5:19 AM, Thibouille wrote:
 
 Got myself (not arrived yet) a Mamiya C330 TLR (with 80/2.8) for a
 couple reasons:
 
 * I want to do film
 * Medium format
 * 6x4,5 is bigger than 35mm but if going MF, just do it completely.
 6x4,5 is somewhat small IMO
 * The challenge of using a TLR, waist level finder (although prism is
 available as well)
 * The challenge of square format, 6x6
 * Interchangeable lenses on a TLR (quite rare)
 * Mechanical beast, easier to repair than electronic ones if it needs to.
 
 Now, I know Darren have one, he wrote so a couple weeks ago.
 Darren and others, what could you advise as for usage of such cameras?
 Like usage with or without tripod, what kind of subjects, 120 film handling 
 etc.
 
 Thank you much.
 
 -- 
 Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs
 --
 Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45,
 DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ...
 Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7
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Re: OT: A little music for the Holiday Season

2010-12-08 Thread Walter Gilbert
 Wow!  It didn't even get close to nudity or sexual content.  I was 
comfortable enough with it to post it on my Facebook page, and I'm 
relatively prudish when it comes to the content I'll put on it.


Far be it from me to tell YouTube what they can post, but that video 
didn't violate their *stated* terms.  Geez.


-- Walt



On 12/8/2010 1:25 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
This video has been removed as a violation of YouTube's policy on 
nudity or sexual content.


It didn't last long.

On 12/7/2010 1:34 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

This woman has real talent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVpjHXPT1ocfeature=player_embedded

Dan
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Re: Farmacia

2010-12-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I'm not sure what you mean by both.  Farmacia  itself is a digital
image, but yes, it is soft, partly because I was wlking by, and had to
snap quickly between vehicles that were blocking my view of the
storefront.  If the other you looked at was Eggsperiment, that
indeed is an old scan of a print of a Spotmatic image,taken with  a
close-up lens on top of my 50 mm screwmount f 1.4 lens.

Thanks for looking and commenting.

Dan
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On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Dan:  Both are fun, but both show a little soft on my monitor.  These are
 scanned, no?  Cheers, Christine


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 Subject: PESO: Farmacia



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Re: OT: A little music for the Holiday Season

2010-12-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I've seen things on YouTube in the past that contained a hell of a lot 
more prurient interest than what was described.  How to be nude. May 
still be posted for all I know, it originally had no protections at all.


On 12/8/2010 11:36 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
 Wow!  It didn't even get close to nudity or sexual content.  I 
was comfortable enough with it to post it on my Facebook page, and I'm 
relatively prudish when it comes to the content I'll put on it.


Far be it from me to tell YouTube what they can post, but that video 
didn't violate their *stated* terms.  Geez.


-- Walt



On 12/8/2010 1:25 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
This video has been removed as a violation of YouTube's policy on 
nudity or sexual content.


It didn't last long.

On 12/7/2010 1:34 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

This woman has real talent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVpjHXPT1ocfeature=player_embedded

Dan
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Re: Massaging K-5 RAW files

2010-12-08 Thread Miserere
On 8 December 2010 11:21, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Dec 8, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Miserere wrote:

 On 8 December 2010 05:14, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Miserere, have you noticed an additional bonus of shadow recovery - no
 purple fringing at all???

 That was the first thing I noticed: No purple fringing. Of course, had
 I remembered to turn on the CA correction feature there should have
 been no PF anyway.


 Is CA correction for jpeg only, or does it work with RAW files?
 Paul

As far as I'm aware, it works on RAW files too.

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Re: OT: A little music for the Holiday Season

2010-12-08 Thread Walter Gilbert
 Indeed.  I just ran a search for a video someone sent me years ago 
that was vastly more provocative than the one Daniel linked, and it's 
still up -- along with several others featuring the same subject.


Oh, well.  I guess YouTube is like any bureaucracy ... your fortunes lie 
in the mood of whoever you happen to make contact with that day.


-- Walt

On 12/8/2010 11:08 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
I've seen things on YouTube in the past that contained a hell of a lot 
more prurient interest than what was described.  How to be nude. May 
still be posted for all I know, it originally had no protections at all.


On 12/8/2010 11:36 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
 Wow!  It didn't even get close to nudity or sexual content.  I 
was comfortable enough with it to post it on my Facebook page, and 
I'm relatively prudish when it comes to the content I'll put on it.


Far be it from me to tell YouTube what they can post, but that video 
didn't violate their *stated* terms.  Geez.


-- Walt



On 12/8/2010 1:25 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
This video has been removed as a violation of YouTube's policy on 
nudity or sexual content.


It didn't last long.

On 12/7/2010 1:34 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

This woman has real talent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVpjHXPT1ocfeature=player_embedded

Dan
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola













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Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)

2010-12-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Tri-X in D-76 is pretty forgiving, you can soup in a bathroom and pretty 
much time it with your pulse.  Learned to do that in a Photojournalism 
course taught by a semi-retried Photo-Editor from the Providence 
Journal.  Except for the fact that that the film used was 35mm rather 
than 4x5 it was a technique that wouldn't have been alien to Weegee.


Let me see now, what was my point...   Oh, yes. Pick a film and 
developer combination, and learn it, until getting constant results is 
second nature.  Then branch out.


On 12/8/2010 5:27 AM, Thibouille wrote:

Just understood how cheaper it was to process film in house.
Got material from my brother, just needed the chemical part.
Got developper + fixer for 30 Euros, dunno if it is about a right
price or not...

I can process 40 35mm films with that, compared to 6 euros per film
when dropped to my reseller. Ouch !

BTW, just found out there're a couple nice apps helping, at least on iPhone.
The Massive Dev Chart, ( http://www.digitaltruth.com ) is available
with complete database of developper/film times, stopwatch etc.
Very impressive.




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Re: 10th GFM-PDML Anniversary

2010-12-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Kenton Brede wrote:

what is GFM?

http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=58


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Re: Supporting the (Pentax) cause

2010-12-08 Thread Eric Weir

On Dec 7, 2010, at 5:12 PM, John Celio wrote:

 I suggested a Pentax Optio W90, and they decided to go with that.

Curious about this camera. Casual skimming of reviews, which may have been 
casually composed, had it only so so. 

I thought it was what Subash took on his bike hike to  Subsequent viewings of 
his stuff suggested otherwise. 

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Re: PESO : snowing in Paris

2010-12-08 Thread Madame RD

Le 08/12/10 15:44, Ann Sanfedele a écrit :

Madame RD wrote:

it's been snowing for some time and I shot from my window ... I like 
the unusual frame  but you might not 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/5243352309/#/photos/la_meduse/5243352309/lightbox/ 



dominique

I _kinda_ like it  looks like you shot from a (moving?)  seat of a 
car... or a bus   hmmm but I like the shot overall , more intersting
than the other snow shots... Did you look at it at all cropped a bit 
?   I think I might have cropped a sliver off the top and enough
off the left side and bottom to have the edges of the frame sharp... 
the elements in the photo are nice.


and I reay like this shot of clouds (extra l's intentional)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/5243352309/lightbox/

ann
thanks ...that's the view from my window. I don't know how I managed to 
get such a frame .  my window is the usual Paris window (narrow bith 
square panes ) and there was a piece of furniture in the way so  I had 
to bend forward in an awkard position.. I usually straighten the pics or 
crop but I didn't this time . I liked its weird quality .


I'm very glad you enjoyed the clouds . they  are one of my pet topics 
and I really enjoyed myself while in the Alps ; they had the most 
extraordinary colours .


dominique in Paris with 10cm snow on the streets ... total panic ! lol



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More Additions to the Pentax Photo Gallery

2010-12-08 Thread Walter Gilbert

 Hi all,

Well, I've had a couple more images accepted into the Pentax Photo 
Gallery, making it a grand total of eight, and thought I'd share with 
the group.  The two most recent are the ostrich (Maybelline) and the 
fawn (Trepidation).


I still have one more shot pending, though I'm not entirely encouraged 
that it'll be accepted.  It's the one I shared here a while back -- some 
foliage against a blue sky and wispy clouds that really didn't seem to 
have a well defined point of focus which I titled Ablaze.   I mostly 
liked it for the colors and figured I'd see if they agreed.


Anyhoo ... here's the link: http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert

Now, to go through my archives and see if there's anything else worth 
submitting.


Best,

Walt

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Re: 10th GFM-PDML Anniversary

2010-12-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Christine,
Where did you find out it was the 10th anniversary?
Lynn and I will probably go again although..
I would like to see a get together in Michigan or maybe even Toronto
when the photographers are available.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: 10th GFM-PDML Anniversary

2010-12-08 Thread Walter Gilbert
 I would really love to attend, though it depends on my fortunes over 
the course of the next few months.  If things take a drastic turn, count 
me in.  If things stay the same, it'll be a long shot.  If one more 
domino falls -- well, *maybe* I'll be able to attend the 20th 
anniversary gathering.


-- Walt

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Picasa

2010-12-08 Thread Eric Weir

I have a flikr account. I've been thinking about setting up another account 
where people in the community I work in could share photos, and was wondering 
about Picasa for that. Probably more people already have Goggle accounts and it 
would give me an opportunity to get a feel for the two different sites.

Question: Do you have to install the Picasa software on your system if all you 
want to do us put photos on the site?


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RE: Supporting the (Pentax) cause

2010-12-08 Thread John Celio
Well, it's a compact PS, so it's not going to produce SLR-quality
images, but it's been getting rave reviews in camera and tech mags, so
Pentax must have done something right.

John

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Date: Wed, December 08, 2010 10:52 am
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On Dec 7, 2010, at 5:12 PM, John Celio wrote:

 I suggested a Pentax Optio W90, and they decided to go with that.

Curious about this camera. Casual skimming of reviews, which may have
been casually composed, had it only so so. 

I thought it was what Subash took on his bike hike to Subsequent
viewings of his stuff suggested otherwise. 

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Re: 10th GFM-PDML Anniversary

2010-12-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Sullivan wrote:

Christine,
Where did you find out it was the 10th anniversary?

From me! 2001 was the first year we had a PDML meet at GFM. There were
just a handful of us:

http://www.robertstech.com/images/gfm2001.jpg

Back row: Bill Owens, JeepGirl, John DeLoach, Tom Van Veen
Front row: Phyllis Owens, Doug Brewer, Moi, Don Nelson


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Re: Picasa

2010-12-08 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 8 December 2010 18:10, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I have a flikr account. I've been thinking about setting up another account 
 where people in the community I work in could share photos, and was wondering 
 about Picasa for that. Probably more people already have Goggle accounts and 
 it would give me an opportunity to get a feel for the two different sites.

 Question: Do you have to install the Picasa software on your system if all 
 you want to do us put photos on the site?

No, no need.

You can upload via the picasa web interface if I recall correctly, or
there are Lightroom plug-ins by Jeffrey Fried such that you can upload
to picasa (or flickr amongst others) directly from within Lightroom.

http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies

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FYI - Sale for OPtio W90 (Was: Supporting the (Pentax) cause)

2010-12-08 Thread Igor Roshchin


I guess, I don't have that personal brand loyalty
(short of owning 1 SLR (+1 my wife's), 2 DSLRs, 8 lenses (including 2 TCs), 
and 3 3rd-party lenses with the k-mount), - I never purchased any PS
from Pentax.
Every time I was looking for one, - the Pentax model fell short either
on features/functionality (e.g. the lens is not wide enough),
or on the quality.
I almost purchased the retro-looking one a few years back,
 (was it 555 or 777?) but then i learned that the image quality was
so-so, and decided against it.

In any case, - for those who are interested, - it looks like BuyDig.com
has W90 at $189, which is some $30 below that at BH.

Igor




- Original Message - 
From: John Celio ntax at neovenator.com

 I suggested a Pentax Optio W90, and they decided to go with that.



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RE: PESO : snowing in Paris

2010-12-08 Thread Bob W
  it's been snowing for some time and I shot from my window ... I like
  the unusual frame  but you might not 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/5243352309/#/photos/la_meduse/52
 43352309/lightbox/
[...]
 thanks ...that's the view from my window. I don't know how I managed to
 get such a frame .  my window is the usual Paris window (narrow bith
 square panes ) and there was a piece of furniture in the way so  I had
 to bend forward in an awkard position.. I usually straighten the pics
 or
 crop but I didn't this time . I liked its weird quality .
 
 I'm very glad you enjoyed the clouds . they  are one of my pet topics
 and I really enjoyed myself while in the Alps ; they had the most
 extraordinary colours .
 
 dominique in Paris with 10cm snow on the streets ... total panic ! lol

I like the picture - it is atmospheric, unusual and interesting. 

Somehow I imagined you living somewhere more Haussmannien, but this picture
reminds me of the excellent movie On Connait La Chanson, where she buys a
beautiful modern apartment with a view over Paris only to discover that
another apartment block will be built which hides the view... 

La meduse also reminds me of the film, because the director, Resnais, has
meduses (jelly fish) floating around on the screen after the discovery!

B


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Fw: PPG

2010-12-08 Thread Jack Davis
Forwarded to feed morbid curiosity.

Jack

--- On Wed, 12/8/10, photogallery___PAIC_MKT photogall...@pentax.com wrote:

 From: photogallery___PAIC_MKT photogall...@pentax.com
 Subject: RE: PENTAX Photogallery Contact Us Form
 To: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 9:47 AM
 Hi Jack,
 
 There are over 40,000 images in the Gallery and 342 in the
 Collection.
 There are 5557 artists however I'm unsure how many have
 images approved.
 
 Unfortunately I don't have easy access to all of the
 information but I
 hope that this helps!  
 
 Best,
 PPG
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jack Davis [mailto:jdavi...@yahoo.com]
 
 Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 4:00 PM
 To: photogallery___PAIC_MKT
 Subject: PENTAX Photogallery Contact Us Form
 
 The following email was sent from the Contact Us form in
 the Artist
 interface of the Pentax Photogallery site.
 
 
 

 


  

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Re: Supporting the (Pentax) cause

2010-12-08 Thread Eric Weir

On Dec 8, 2010, at 1:10 PM, John Celio wrote:

 Well, it's a compact PS, so it's not going to produce SLR-quality
 images, but it's been getting rave reviews in camera and tech mags, so
 Pentax must have done something right.

Thanks, John. 

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Re: Picasa

2010-12-08 Thread Eric Weir

On Dec 8, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Eric Featherstone wrote:

 No, no need.
 
 You can upload via the picasa web interface if I recall correctly, or
 there are Lightroom plug-ins by Jeffrey Fried such that you can upload
 to picasa (or flickr amongst others) directly from within Lightroom.
 
 http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies

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Re: More Additions to the Pentax Photo Gallery

2010-12-08 Thread Jack Davis
Just took a very pleasing look. Excellent, Walt.

Jack

--- On Wed, 12/8/10, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com
 Subject: More Additions to the Pentax Photo Gallery
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 9:58 AM
  Hi all,
 
 Well, I've had a couple more images accepted into the
 Pentax Photo Gallery, making it a grand total of eight, and
 thought I'd share with the group.  The two most recent
 are the ostrich (Maybelline) and the fawn
 (Trepidation).
 
 I still have one more shot pending, though I'm not entirely
 encouraged that it'll be accepted.  It's the one I
 shared here a while back -- some foliage against a blue sky
 and wispy clouds that really didn't seem to have a well
 defined point of focus which I titled
 Ablaze.   I mostly liked it for the colors
 and figured I'd see if they agreed.
 
 Anyhoo ... here's the link: http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert
 
 Now, to go through my archives and see if there's anything
 else worth submitting.
 
 Best,
 
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Re: OT - Mamiya Cxxx TLRs and TLR in general

2010-12-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I had the C330 for a bit way back in the 1970s.

There is a 'top of frame' indicator needle. As you focus closer, it
drops to show where the top of the frame for a given focusing distance
would be. So you focus and frame, then raise the camera vertically to
put the top edge of the frame along the indicator line. The shift is
only large when you're working in the very close range, for a normal
to wide lens. With the tele lenses it becomes a bit more significant
... best to frame a little loose. Plenty of negative to work with so
shoot loose and crop ... :-)

Mamiya made a gizmo for the tripod that worked with the indicator too.
The indicator had a scale of numbers, IIRC, and you could easily raise
the camera with gizmo to the number once you achieved proper focus.

For me, the C330 was always a tripod camera. Held with pistol grip and
porroflex viewfinder, it was a large and heavy beast to tote around.
For any hand-held work, I far preferred a Rolleiflex TLR (which had a
more sophisticated parallax compensation built into the viewfinder
system albeit for a fixed lens with a more limited close focusing
range).

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 As I recall, the C330 deals with parallax by having a needle enter the 
 viewfinder field, cropping part of the field that would be cropped due to 
 parallax. Not very sophisticated, but it worked.

 Jeffery


 On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:25 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:

 I had Mamiyaflex C2 and a C220. I always wanted the C330, which has some 
 sort of parallax correction, so the upper lens shows you the frame for the 
 lower lens. Shot with the TLR for many years and made quite a bit of money 
 with it. I used just the 80mm lens for most of that time, but later added 
 the 250mm. It takes a while to get used to seeing things reversed in the 
 viewinder. That was especially difficult shooting pans of race cars, because 
 they came through my viewfinder from the wrong end! But it was a great 
 camera, and the lenses were excellent for the time.
 Paul
 On Dec 8, 2010, at 5:19 AM, Thibouille wrote:

 Got myself (not arrived yet) a Mamiya C330 TLR (with 80/2.8) for a
 couple reasons:

 * I want to do film
 * Medium format
 * 6x4,5 is bigger than 35mm but if going MF, just do it completely.
 6x4,5 is somewhat small IMO
 * The challenge of using a TLR, waist level finder (although prism is
 available as well)
 * The challenge of square format, 6x6
 * Interchangeable lenses on a TLR (quite rare)
 * Mechanical beast, easier to repair than electronic ones if it needs to.

 Now, I know Darren have one, he wrote so a couple weeks ago.
 Darren and others, what could you advise as for usage of such cameras?
 Like usage with or without tripod, what kind of subjects, 120 film handling 
 etc.

 Thank you much.

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Re: 10th GFM-PDML Anniversary

2010-12-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/12/10, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

Just wondering:   who's going?  Is there hope for a big do?  Cheers,
Christine

Well, at this moment there's an outside possibility. I'll know closer
the time. If I do, will most likely have my SO with me as she wants to
see what all the fuss is about! Looking 50-50 from where I'm sat but 6
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Re: 10th GFM-PDML Anniversary

2010-12-08 Thread P. J. Alling

I think you mean

http://www.robertstech.com/images/pdml2001.jpg


On 12/8/2010 1:15 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Bob Sullivan wrote:


Christine,
Where did you find out it was the 10th anniversary?

 From me! 2001 was the first year we had a PDML meet at GFM. There were
just a handful of us:

http://www.robertstech.com/images/gfm2001.jpg

Back row: Bill Owens, JeepGirl, John DeLoach, Tom Van Veen
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Re: More Additions to the Pentax Photo Gallery

2010-12-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a very nice gallery, Walter.  The detail on the ostrich is
very impressive.  My favorite, however, is A tiger at rest.  The
colors and composition are just stunning.

Dan
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,

 Well, I've had a couple more images accepted into the Pentax Photo Gallery,
 making it a grand total of eight, and thought I'd share with the group.  The
 two most recent are the ostrich (Maybelline) and the fawn (Trepidation).

 I still have one more shot pending, though I'm not entirely encouraged that
 it'll be accepted.  It's the one I shared here a while back -- some foliage
 against a blue sky and wispy clouds that really didn't seem to have a well
 defined point of focus which I titled Ablaze.   I mostly liked it for the
 colors and figured I'd see if they agreed.

 Anyhoo ... here's the link: http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert

 Now, to go through my archives and see if there's anything else worth
 submitting.

 Best,

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Re: More Additions to the Pentax Photo Gallery

2010-12-08 Thread Walter Gilbert

Thank you, Jack!

Glad you enjoyed it.  :-)

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On 12/8/2010 12:28 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Just took a very pleasing look. Excellent, Walt.

Jack

--- On Wed, 12/8/10, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com  wrote:


From: Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com
Subject: More Additions to the Pentax Photo Gallery
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 9:58 AM
  Hi all,

Well, I've had a couple more images accepted into the
Pentax Photo Gallery, making it a grand total of eight, and
thought I'd share with the group.  The two most recent
are the ostrich (Maybelline) and the fawn
(Trepidation).

I still have one more shot pending, though I'm not entirely
encouraged that it'll be accepted.  It's the one I
shared here a while back -- some foliage against a blue sky
and wispy clouds that really didn't seem to have a well
defined point of focus which I titled
Ablaze.   I mostly liked it for the colors
and figured I'd see if they agreed.

Anyhoo ... here's the link: http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert

Now, to go through my archives and see if there's anything
else worth submitting.

Best,

Walt

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Re: At least they're my photos

2010-12-08 Thread Igor Roshchin


Larry,

It's always nice to see your own photos used.

I don't know if that's the event where they asked you to be the official
photographer.
Whenever I am negotiating about my photos with the event organizers
(or whoever asks to use my photos), - I explicitly discuss the name
credit. It could be a paid photo (but then often it is not paid at the
full commercial rate), or a free one/donated, where I do it for a good 
cause - in case of community events.

If you haven't negotiated otherwise, - you may want to mention
this to the organizers explicitly, - it is possible that they just
didn't pay attention to that.

You maybe curious to learn that the photographer who was shooting
photos for Lindyfest for several years (and those a nice photos), - 
got pissed by the lack of name credit anywhere (brochures, website).
Last year she refused to take photos. I think the organizers learned
the lesson - now you can see the proper name credit everywhere, -
but maybe it's too late. 
I am curious to see who will be doing it 2011.
(Although, the guy who was taking it this year was good, - I liked
his photos; actually he does it in a style similar to mine.)


Cheers,

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Re: OT: Russian names required.

2010-12-08 Thread Cotty
On 7/12/10, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:

Replied off list.

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Re: My thoughts on buying cameras

2010-12-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I started to write a humorous look at this called Godfrey's Guide To
Buying Cameras or How I Spent A Lot Of Money Selling Camera
Equipment, but it got too complicated.

When asked what camera should I buy? nowadays, I usually ask what
camera someone has and why they want to buy a new camera. In most
cases, they don't need a camera, they need kicker to make photographs
again. The buying disease spread by marketing and tech reviews and
specification websites has done its job ... everyone believes a new
camera will make their photographs great.

I tell them to take the money they'd spend for a new camera and buy a
plane ticket to Tibet instead. Sell everything but whatever camera
they have now and one lens, then spend two months taking 10,000 photos
with it. When they get home, they'll either know exactly what camera
they should buy or they'll realize they don't need a new camera at
all.

Few take me up on my advice. ;-)

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Re: More Additions to the Pentax Photo Gallery

2010-12-08 Thread Walter Gilbert

 Thank you very much, Dan!

Having a mimosa tree in the front yard does have its benefits.  They 
really provide a nice backdrop when they're in bloom.  And, if you catch 
the butterflies early in the season, before they get all beaten up and 
start losing pieces of their wings, they make wonderful subjects.  I 
have one other shot of a black swallowtail (possibly a pipevine?) I may 
submit as well.  There's something iffy about it to me, but I'll 
upload it to Flickr and post a PESO to get opinions on it.


Thanks agan!

-- Walt

On 12/8/2010 12:57 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

That is a very nice gallery, Walter.  The detail on the ostrich is
very impressive.  My favorite, however, is A tiger at rest.  The
colors and composition are just stunning.

Dan
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com  wrote:

  Hi all,

Well, I've had a couple more images accepted into the Pentax Photo Gallery,
making it a grand total of eight, and thought I'd share with the group.  The
two most recent are the ostrich (Maybelline) and the fawn (Trepidation).

I still have one more shot pending, though I'm not entirely encouraged that
it'll be accepted.  It's the one I shared here a while back -- some foliage
against a blue sky and wispy clouds that really didn't seem to have a well
defined point of focus which I titled Ablaze.   I mostly liked it for the
colors and figured I'd see if they agreed.

Anyhoo ... here's the link: http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert

Now, to go through my archives and see if there's anything else worth
submitting.

Best,

Walt

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Re: At least they're my photos

2010-12-08 Thread Larry Colen

On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:59 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 
 
 Larry,
 
 It's always nice to see your own photos used.
 
 I don't know if that's the event where they asked you to be the official
 photographer.

Yup.  And I only got in a few dances each night because of it.

 Whenever I am negotiating about my photos with the event organizers
 (or whoever asks to use my photos), - I explicitly discuss the name
 credit. It could be a paid photo (but then often it is not paid at the
 full commercial rate), or a free one/donated, where I do it for a good 
 cause - in case of community events.

I talked with the folks involved and cleared up the misunderstanding, and it 
has been fixed.


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lightroom question, sorting by autofocus

2010-12-08 Thread Larry Colen
I'm going over my photos from the event, and ran across a whole series of shots 
that were perfectly focused,
on the microphone.  I'd love to be able to sort photos on whether they were 
autofocused or manually focused to see if it was me, or the camera, blowing it. 
 Is there a way to do this?  I didn't see it, but could well have missed it.

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Re: 10th GFM-PDML Anniversary

2010-12-08 Thread Stan Halpin

On Dec 8, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Christine,
 Where did you find out it was the 10th anniversary?
 Lynn and I will probably go again although..
 I would like to see a get together in Michigan or maybe even Toronto
 when the photographers are available.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 

Good idea Bob, but it needn't be either/or. Why not do a progressive party? 
Start in Michigan, then a quick jaunt over the boarder into Canada as far as 
the Toronto megapolis . . .

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Re: 10th GFM-PDML Anniversary

2010-12-08 Thread paul stenquist
What Cotty said. I never know until the last minute.
Paul

On Dec 8, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Cotty wrote:

 On 8/12/10, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Just wondering:   who's going?  Is there hope for a big do?  Cheers,
 Christine
 
 Well, at this moment there's an outside possibility. I'll know closer
 the time. If I do, will most likely have my SO with me as she wants to
 see what all the fuss is about! Looking 50-50 from where I'm sat but 6
 months can see a lot of water under the bridge, and we are expecting a flood!
 
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PESO: A Swallowtail in Respite

2010-12-08 Thread Walter Gilbert

 Hi all,

Here's another butterfly shot I'm considering submitting to the PPG and 
thought I'd get some opinions on beforehand.  I'm just a tad iffy on 
it, as it just doesn't strike me as particularly vivid -- something I'm 
partial to in my butterfly images.  Of course, it's a matter of taste -- 
which is why I thought I'd get input from the list.  Anyway, here it is:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5244166815/#/

Comments, critiques, suggestions, and gift certificates from KEH eagerly 
accepted.


-- Walt





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Re: PESO: A Swallowtail in Respite

2010-12-08 Thread Walter Gilbert

 Oops ... forgot the deets:

K-x, Asahi Takumar 135/2.5, ISO 200, 1/320, Aperture priority, unknown 
aperture setting.




On 12/8/2010 1:38 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

 Hi all,

Here's another butterfly shot I'm considering submitting to the PPG 
and thought I'd get some opinions on beforehand.  I'm just a tad 
iffy on it, as it just doesn't strike me as particularly vivid -- 
something I'm partial to in my butterfly images.  Of course, it's a 
matter of taste -- which is why I thought I'd get input from the 
list.  Anyway, here it is:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5244166815/#/

Comments, critiques, suggestions, and gift certificates from KEH 
eagerly accepted.


-- Walt







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Re: PESO: A Swallowtail in Respite

2010-12-08 Thread Jack Davis
The PPG offerings continue to include an extremely large number of butterflies. 
Such a number tends to numb the voter to the point of being difficult to 
overcome, thus placing such images at somewhat of a disadvantage.(?)
This image, however, I feel is unique enough to have a good chance at making it 
in. Even though there it rather more going on in the background than it would 
really need, I'd enter it.

Jack yes

--- On Wed, 12/8/10, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: A Swallowtail in Respite
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 11:45 AM
  Oops ... forgot the deets:
 
 K-x, Asahi Takumar 135/2.5, ISO 200, 1/320, Aperture
 priority, unknown aperture setting.
 
 
 
 On 12/8/2010 1:38 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
   Hi all,
  
  Here's another butterfly shot I'm considering
 submitting to the PPG and thought I'd get some opinions on
 beforehand.  I'm just a tad iffy on it, as it just
 doesn't strike me as particularly vivid -- something I'm
 partial to in my butterfly images.  Of course, it's a
 matter of taste -- which is why I thought I'd get input from
 the list.  Anyway, here it is:
  
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5244166815/#/
  
  Comments, critiques, suggestions, and gift
 certificates from KEH eagerly accepted.
  
  -- Walt
  
  
  
  
 
 
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RE: My thoughts on buying cameras

2010-12-08 Thread Bob W
 I tell them to take the money they'd spend for a new camera and buy a
 plane ticket to Tibet instead. Sell everything but whatever camera
 they have now and one lens, then spend two months taking 10,000 photos
 with it. When they get home, they'll either know exactly what camera
 they should buy or they'll realize they don't need a new camera at
 all.
 
 Few take me up on my advice. ;-)

Hmm. 

When I first decided to go to Ethiopia I had an MX and maybe 2 lenses. I
decided I needed a back-up body so I bought a Super-A. Then I decided I
needed some back-up lenses, which meant having to have several primes to
cover the range of my lenses. All this kit needed a secure case which would
go on top of a bus, so I had to have a Pelican case. Of course it would be
ludicrous not to take a tripod too, so I had to buy one of those.

My original idea had been to go scuba-diving when I was there, but I was
lucky enough to learn before I bought all the underwater equipment that
Ethiopia has no coast.

The experiences of that first trip convinced me for the second one that I
needed more robust equipment, and the main and back-up cameras should be the
same. So I had to buy 2 LXs. Obviously that meant I needed several focusing
screens and prism heads, just in case, as well as better quality lenses than
I had before - such as the A* 85mm and 135mm. And because I might see some
wildlife I needed a 400mm lens and teleconverter.

Somewhere in between time I joined the PDML, which did nothing to restrain
me.

B


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Re: Massaging K-5 RAW files

2010-12-08 Thread Toine
The last 2 images are amazing. I don't see any PF in the second one.
Is this a jpg with CA correction enabled? Can I download the RAW files
to play?
A cash back has landed here and now I'm thinking about a K5. The ugly
spots on the sensor stop me from visiting the local pusher.

Toine

On 8 December 2010 09:33, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 In case anyone is interested, I've updated my review with some
 examples of massaged K-5 images:

 http://enticingthelight.com/2010/12/01/review-pentax-k-5/#raw

 I was surprised to find out the K-5 only has 1 stop of highlight
 overhead because I thought my K10D had a bit more than that. I'm going
 to have to run that check again.

 At the other end of the spectrum, the shadow recovery that's possible
 with this camera is quite amazing. We've seen a few examples online,
 but until you do it yourself you don't realise just how incredible it
 is. I think it was Boris who wanted full size pics to compare, so
 there they are for his and your pixel-peeping pleasure.

 Cheers,


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Ned plugs Mark's book and PDML

2010-12-08 Thread Miserere
http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/pentax-photo-book-for-the-holidays-0

Mark was wondering if they'd received the book he sent, and here's the
answer. The book looks even better in person than it did online,
unlike some of us. You're getting pretty good at book layout,
Mark...and setting the bar very high for yourself for the upcoming
PDML Annual. We expect nothing but 10% more than the best  :-)


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Re: Ned plugs Mark's book and PDML

2010-12-08 Thread Walter Gilbert

 Well, now ... that's quite nice!

-- Walt

On 12/8/2010 2:20 PM, Miserere wrote:

http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/pentax-photo-book-for-the-holidays-0

Mark was wondering if they'd received the book he sent, and here's the
answer. The book looks even better in person than it did online,
unlike some of us. You're getting pretty good at book layout,
Mark...and setting the bar very high for yourself for the upcoming
PDML Annual. We expect nothing but 10% more than the best  :-)


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Re: PESO: A Swallowtail in Respite

2010-12-08 Thread Walter Gilbert

 Thanks, Jack.

I think you hit upon why I was iffy on that shot.  It's not so much the 
lack of vividness, but the fact that the butterfly itself is somewhat 
bland in comparison to the mimosa tree.  Hmm ... come to think of it, 
maybe I should have named it Mimosa Tree with a Butterfly on it.


-- Walt

On 12/8/2010 2:00 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

The PPG offerings continue to include an extremely large number of butterflies. 
Such a number tends to numb the voter to the point of being difficult to 
overcome, thus placing such images at somewhat of a disadvantage.(?)
This image, however, I feel is unique enough to have a good chance at making it 
in. Even though there it rather more going on in the background than it would 
really need, I'd enter it.

Jackyes

--- On Wed, 12/8/10, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com  wrote:


From: Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: PESO: A Swallowtail in Respite
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 11:45 AM
  Oops ... forgot the deets:

K-x, Asahi Takumar 135/2.5, ISO 200, 1/320, Aperture
priority, unknown aperture setting.



On 12/8/2010 1:38 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:

   Hi all,

Here's another butterfly shot I'm considering

submitting to the PPG and thought I'd get some opinions on
beforehand.  I'm just a tad iffy on it, as it just
doesn't strike me as particularly vivid -- something I'm
partial to in my butterfly images.  Of course, it's a
matter of taste -- which is why I thought I'd get input from
the list.  Anyway, here it is:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5244166815/#/

Comments, critiques, suggestions, and gift

certificates from KEH eagerly accepted.

-- Walt






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Re: PESO: A Swallowtail in Respite

2010-12-08 Thread Jack Davis
Walt, I think the strength of the image is the black butterfly.
I might do some cropping, especially on the right side.

Jack

--- On Wed, 12/8/10, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: A Swallowtail in Respite
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 12:28 PM
   Thanks, Jack.
 
 I think you hit upon why I was iffy on that shot. 
 It's not so much the 
 lack of vividness, but the fact that the butterfly itself
 is somewhat 
 bland in comparison to the mimosa tree.  Hmm ... come
 to think of it, 
 maybe I should have named it Mimosa Tree with a Butterfly
 on it.
 
 -- Walt
 
 On 12/8/2010 2:00 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
  The PPG offerings continue to include an extremely
 large number of butterflies. Such a number tends to numb the
 voter to the point of being difficult to overcome, thus
 placing such images at somewhat of a disadvantage.(?)
  This image, however, I feel is unique enough to have a
 good chance at making it in. Even though there it rather
 more going on in the background than it would really need,
 I'd enter it.
 
  Jackyes
 
  --- On Wed, 12/8/10, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
  From: Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: PESO: A Swallowtail in Respite
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
  Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 11:45 AM
    Oops ... forgot the deets:
 
  K-x, Asahi Takumar 135/2.5, ISO 200, 1/320,
 Aperture
  priority, unknown aperture setting.
 
 
 
  On 12/8/2010 1:38 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
     Hi all,
 
  Here's another butterfly shot I'm considering
  submitting to the PPG and thought I'd get some
 opinions on
  beforehand.  I'm just a tad iffy on it, as
 it just
  doesn't strike me as particularly vivid --
 something I'm
  partial to in my butterfly images.  Of
 course, it's a
  matter of taste -- which is why I thought I'd get
 input from
  the list.  Anyway, here it is:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5244166815/#/
 
  Comments, critiques, suggestions, and gift
  certificates from KEH eagerly accepted.
  -- Walt
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Ned plugs Mark's book and PDML

2010-12-08 Thread P N Stenquist
Excellent! Kudos to Mark.
Paul


On Dec 8, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Miserere wrote:

 http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/pentax-photo-book-for-the-holidays-0
 
 Mark was wondering if they'd received the book he sent, and here's the
 answer. The book looks even better in person than it did online,
 unlike some of us. You're getting pretty good at book layout,
 Mark...and setting the bar very high for yourself for the upcoming
 PDML Annual. We expect nothing but 10% more than the best  :-)
 
 
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Ned mentions Mark

2010-12-08 Thread Larry Colen
I did a quick search for this, but didn't find it. I'm about 750 messages 
behind in the list. I'm afraid that doing photography sometimes interferes with 
my reading PDML.

Anyways, Ned comments on Mark's Loire valley book:
http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/pentax-photo-book-for-the-holidays-0

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Re: Ned plugs Mark's book and PDML

2010-12-08 Thread Jack Davis
I wonder if Ned knows Mark recently bought a Sony A850? ;)

Jack

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 Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 12:38 PM
 Excellent! Kudos to Mark.
 Paul
 
 
 On Dec 8, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Miserere wrote:
 
  http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/pentax-photo-book-for-the-holidays-0
  
  Mark was wondering if they'd received the book he
 sent, and here's the
  answer. The book looks even better in person than it
 did online,
  unlike some of us. You're getting pretty good at book
 layout,
  Mark...and setting the bar very high for yourself for
 the upcoming
  PDML Annual. We expect nothing but 10% more than the
 best  :-)
  
  
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