Re: PESO x3: Thunderstorm

2012-09-05 Thread David Mann
On Sep 5, 2012, at 1:37 AM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:

> I've never tried my hand at long exposures. I did once manage to capture some 
> lightning shots using one of those disposable film cameras, years ago. I 
> obviously haven't been able to duplicate that success with digital, though.

It was surprisingly easy.  The best shot (the first in my set) was the second 
one I took.

The light changed quickly as the sun was setting at the time (oh to have had 
some sunset colour on those clouds).  I ended up shooting f/22 for 15 seconds.  
Then waiting an extra 15 seconds for the dark frame subtraction to occur while 
I missed lots of lightning.  I had to estimate the time between flashes and try 
to time my shots so the shutter would be open in time for the next flash.  It 
wasn't terribly successful but I managed to get a handful.

I really need to win the lottery and move up onto the hill.

Dave


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Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 4, 2012, at 11:54 PM, John Francis wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 10:26:07PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
>> 
>> I really like the concept behind the Foveon sensor - every
>> photo-site captures all 3 colors like film did & no need for the
>> anti-aliasing, but what's the deal with the poor image quality above
>> ISO 400?
> 
> Physics.  If you don't have separate sensor sites for the three colo(u)rs,
> then the photons for two of the colours have to pass through at least one
> of the layers that contain the sensors for the other colours.
> 
> To oversimplify the situation, you can't create a sensor that captures all
> the blue photons, and yet lets 100% of the red or green photons pass through.
> As a result, the second and third layers don't receive 100% of the photons
> that they would respond to if they were the frontmost layer. This leads to
> a degradation in sensitivity and in the signal-to-noise ratio.

I wonder if, with back illumination, you could do concentric rings for each 
sensor color.  That way, each color would, on average, map out to the same 
location.

Do it so that green has twice as much area as either blue or red.

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Re: Taking the Tokina out for some exercise

2012-09-05 Thread Rick Womer
Larry,

Au contraire; I usually set clarity to 15-20.  I find I'm using less in LR4 
than I did in previous versions.

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On Sep 4, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

> Larry, some of these are so noisy that I need ear plugs to look at them.

Mark!

> 
> The "clarity" thing is a bit overdone, I think. 


Either the clarity, or the shooting at ISO 20K. Or, all of the above.  I 
certainly don't think that dialing clarity up to 11 should be my standard 
procedure.  I think that it does have some potential use.  I'm just trying to 
figure out when and how.  It sounds to me that you don't think it ever works.

> 
> Compositionally, though, they're great.

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Re: PESO: Kermit

2012-09-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice shot.  We find them in the pool a well sometimes.  They often
need some help getting out since they can't manages the lip.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :
>
>> The uninvited guest in our pool, resting in one of the skimmers:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16412754
>
>
>
>
> Probably not green enough to be Kermit - unless it's been bleached by the
> pool chlorine :-)>
>
> We have a green tree frog that lives in out bathroom underfloor drainage.
> He complains every time someone takes a shower - startles the hell out of
> visitors.
>
>
>
> --
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>
> Brian
>
> ++
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Mini-GESO: Golden Hour mammatus (4 photos)

2012-09-05 Thread Walt Gilbert
In a fit of jealousy over Mark's shot of mammatus clouds during the 
golden hour from GFM, I decided to spend every single night camped out 
in the yard with my camera until I finally got some of my own. Well, I 
got them at about 6:30 this morning.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157631419163014/

Granted, they lack the accompanying scenery of Mark's wonderful shot. 
And the camping-out thing is a complete lie. Still, I'm just happy to 
have seen and captured them.


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Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Anyone know if the Foveon sensor outputs 8 bits-per-color or 16?
 
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PESO - Legs

2012-09-05 Thread Brian Walters


G'day all

Just a bit of fun from last year's 'Sculpture by the Sea when I took  
the *ist D out for a walk.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP0135-istD-peso.html


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Re: PESO x3: Thunderstorm

2012-09-05 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting David Mann :

We rarely get thunderstorms here but when I noticed clouds moving in  
from the northeast with more clouds moving in from the southwest at  
the same time, I knew we were in for a bit of a show.


I stood out at the footpath watching the fireworks and eventually  
thought I should try to take a few pics...


http://www.multi.net.nz/thunderstorm/

K10D, 16-45mm (at 16mm).

I didn't get very long before my battery started to run low but I'd  
had enough by then and the storm was heading north.  I ended up  
shooting at f/22 for 15 seconds.  The wait during the dark-frame  
subtraction was agonising, especially the times when I just missed  
spectacular flashes.





Spectacular shots.

I'm fairly sure that dark frame subtraction can be turned off in the  
K10Ds Custom menu - at least it can with my K200D which uses the same  
sensor.


I think it's the K20D (and K-7?) with its Samsung sensor that doesn't  
allow it to be turned off.



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Re: PESO x3: Thunderstorm

2012-09-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I agree with Walt (and everyone else). Terrific photos. Very dramatic!

Cheers, 
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From: Walt Gilbert 
Sent: September 4, 2012 9/4/12
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Subject: Re: PESO x3: Thunderstorm

Excellent, David!

I've never tried my hand at long exposures. I did once manage to capture 
some lightning shots using one of those disposable film cameras, years 
ago. I obviously haven't been able to duplicate that success with 
digital, though.

-- Walt

On 9/4/2012 2:12 AM, David Mann wrote:
> We rarely get thunderstorms here but when I noticed clouds moving in from the 
> northeast with more clouds moving in from the southwest at the same time, I 
> knew we were in for a bit of a show.
>
> I stood out at the footpath watching the fireworks and eventually thought I 
> should try to take a few pics...
>
> http://www.multi.net.nz/thunderstorm/
>
> K10D, 16-45mm (at 16mm).
>
> I didn't get very long before my battery started to run low but I'd had 
> enough by then and the storm was heading north.  I ended up shooting at f/22 
> for 15 seconds.  The wait during the dark-frame subtraction was agonising, 
> especially the times when I just missed spectacular flashes.
>
> It would have been spectacular to view from the hills.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
>


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Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread Toralf Lund
On 05/09/12 08:01, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
>> You could do a better job with many aspects of this camera.  Maybe low
>> light is a sensor problem?
> A standard Bayer mosaic sensor is a planar surface with a filter array
> on top of it. This means that the light at each of the photosites for
> all three colors is essentially equal, minus the amount that the
> particular color filter absorbs for each photosite.
>
> A Fovean sensor stacks three photosites in each pixel location on the
> sensor, with a color filter between them. I don't know precisely how
> they order the stack, but it would make sense to order it blue, green,
> red since short wavelengths are more easily absorbed than longer
> wavelengths. But what this means is that the light energy hitting the
> bottom layer is inevitably reduced compared to what hits the top
> layer.
I thought one the main premises was that each sensor would absorb all
the light for a certain range of wavelenghts, and not at all respond
light outside that range, so that it would continue without any loss of
energy to the next layer(s) (absorbing different wavelengths.) And also,
that there weren't filters as such, just differences in the way the
photo diodes respond to light, or whatever.

But maybe the problem is that it's not quite like that in the real world...

- Toralf

>   They compensate to some degree by making the three layers
> differentially sensitive, either by adjusting the signal amplification
> or by staggering the photosite sizings, I don't know.
>
> But what this means is that for a given amount of light energy per
> unit area falling on the sensor plane, a Fovean sensor has to work
> harder to achieve the same signal to noise characteristic than a Bayer
> matrix sensor.
>
> The difference is that a Fovean sensor is acquiring R, G, and B values
> at each pixel position, producing a non-interpolated chroma resolution
> at the same pixel resolution, where a Bayer mosaic takes a minimum of
> an 8x8 pixel array in a GRBG/RBGG/BGGR row*column (or similar
> ordering) to resolve each pixel's position and RGB value by
> interpolation. The article makes a big deal of the Fovean design not
> needing an AA filter to combat chroma irregularities due to the
> interpolation of pixel position. Well, as pixel density increases, the
> need for an AA filter to minimize chroma irregularities reduces such
> that with today's sensors the spatial resolution is very nearly
> identical to the Fovean sensor's capabilities at the same single-layer
> resolution.
>
> AA filters do more than simply minimize chroma irregularities ... they
> also minimize moire artifacts, the effect of discrete line crossings
> on a cartesian grid when the cell size of the grid is close to the
> width of the line. Again, as grid cell size decreases, the tendency to
> moire also decreases.
>
> All engineering solutions to the problem of obtaining enough color
> information to accurately characterize the incoming light are
> tradeoffs. Fovean technology means more complex to manufacture,
> multi-layer sensors, which have known plusses and minuses compared to
> Bayer mosaic sensors. My feeling is that the quality of Bayer mosaic
> sensor technology is such that for practical purposes, the Fovean
> design is mostly irrelevant except for some very critical color niche
> market uses.
>
> If the cost of making Fovean sensors were to drop, and a solution to
> the multi-layer light absorbtion issue resolved, it might stand a
> chance of becoming more popular than a Bayer mosaic design ... as then
> there would be more demand for the sensors and the price would drop
> further by the scaling effect of large volume manufacturing.

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Re: PESO - Picnic at the Beach with Hookah

2012-09-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Yes. The busy-ness works very well here. 

Very good photo!

cheers,
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Subject: Re: PESO - Picnic at the Beach with Hookah

It's like one of those really busy medieval religious paintings with
lots of elements.  The more i look at it the more I like it.

On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Thanks Tim. I tried cropping tighter on the right, but the sign post was 
> coming close to intersecting the edge of frame at lower right, which was 
> distracting to my eye. I'll take another look.
> Paul
>
>
> On Sep 4, 2012, at 12:46 AM, Tim Bray  wrote:
>
>> It’s great; full of life! I might have cropped a bit off the right to
>> lose the guy in the black shirt (while retaining the fire
>> extinguisher).
>> -T
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Paul Stenquist  
>> wrote:
>>> This is a mess of a composition, what with all the sign posts and busy 
>>> business, but I had to shoot it,. Hookah's are common in restaurants here, 
>>> as we have a large middle-eastern population, but at the beach it came as a 
>>> surprise. Much of our middle eastern population is composed of Iraqi 
>>> christians, members of the Chaldean Catholic church, who fled their 
>>> homeland to escape persecution long before the war. I suspect this fellow 
>>> is counted among them.
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16412332&size=lg
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Re: PESO: Banksy flavored

2012-09-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Striking image!

Cheers, 
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From: steve harley 
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Subject: Re: PESO: Banksy flavored

on 2012-09-03 23:29 Tim Bray wrote
> Actually, I don’t think Banksy’s been visiting Vancouver, so this must
> be an affectionate nod in his direction:
> https://plus.google.com/photos/107606703558161507946/albums/5784187957151443553/5784187960903510818

it asked me "is this steve harley?"

shadows make it a little more interesting

does look like Banksy's balloon girl

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2012-09-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Beautiful composition, beautifully rendered. Does this French church have a 
name? I know in Quebec some of the towns and churches are named after very 
little-known saints (my favourite is St. Polycarpe), so I'm wondering if this 
might have one of those glorious archaic names...

Cheers,
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From: Don Guthrie 
Sent: September 4, 2012 9/4/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Peso The French Church B&W

A B&W processed with NIK B&W Comments welcomed





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Re: PESO Green Tech

2012-09-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I'll jump in late to say how much I like this one. Simple, spare composition, 
beautiful blue sky.

A winner!

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From: Bruce Walker 
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Thank you Larry, Steve, Dave and Tim!


On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Tim Bray  wrote:
> Strong shot; wouldn’t change a thing. -T
>
> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/7915258122/lightbox/
>>
>> Comments, criticism welcome.
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Re: PESO - Freedom (warning, bike content)

2012-09-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Judy says "hi" back, Bruce.

She hasn't ridden the steed yet (wants to get a helmet first), but she is 
certainly looking forward to it.

Thanks to all who looked and commented.

Cheers,
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Subject: Re: PESO - Freedom (warning, bike content)

You did really well to get that very handsome bike for a bargain,
Frank. And I know that Judy will enjoy the extra speed and extended
range this gives her. I'm really glad for her, and be sure and pass on
my greetings.


On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 9:53 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> So Judy and I are wandering around the neighbourhood today when we
> come across a lawn sale.  It was mid-afternoon so we didn't expect
> much left.  However, we saw this:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/the-new-steed.html
>
> And we bought it.  After 20 years off a bike, Judy finally has one!
> It's a Specialized Globe Carmel 02. Barely ridden, in perfect shape,
> we got it for a great price.
>
> It's the perfect bike for her.  Nice and upright, big fat tires,
> Shimano internal three speed, coaster brake on the rear and hand brake
> on the front.  She's thrilled with it.
>
> And I'm thrilled, too.  Finally we can go bicycling together!  There
> are so many bike trails along the Lake and through parks and along
> creeks for us to explore.  And she's going to get a big old basket on
> the front so we can go shopping together.
>
> She feels that this will give her much more freedom to get around our
> area quickly and easily - walking's great but sometimes it just takes
> a long time.
>
> It's been a good day.  We needed that.
>
> cheers,
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Re: PESO - St. Louis Bandstand in IR

2012-09-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Wow! "Spectacular" about sums it up.

Great shot, Mark.

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Spectacular, Mark.

And this IR stuff looks like more fun than I'd given it credit for.


On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> Getting close to the end of my vacation pics from June and July... Here is a
> bandstand in Forest Park, taken with an IR converted K10D. Switched the red
> and blue channels in PS and then tweaked it a bit more:
>
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2012/09/03/st-louis-bandstand-in-infrared
>
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Re: PESO - Legs

2012-09-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a very striking image with strong composition, IMO>
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On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
>
> G'day all
>
> Just a bit of fun from last year's 'Sculpture by the Sea when I took the
> *ist D out for a walk.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP0135-istD-peso.html
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RE: PESO - Garsdale Viaduct

2012-09-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
It is beautiful, as is your photo of it.

I haven't commented on the others in this series but I have been looking at 
them and they are all gorgeous. Wonderful series!

cheers,
frank

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From: Rick Womer 
Sent: September 4, 2012 9/4/12
To: Pentax List 
Subject: PESO - Garsdale Viaduct

I went out one evening to photograph the Garsdale viaduct, another beautiful 
piece of Victorian engineering and construction:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16425412&size=lg


Of course, I wanted something to give it some movement or scale.  I lingered 
for about a half hour.  A man walked by, but went the wrong way.  A train, 
maybe?  No train, not even a distant whistle.

So after a half hour, with light fading and getting cold, I headed back to the 
inn.  Halfway back, on a bridge across the road:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16425413&size=lg


I guess I'm just not sufficiently dedicated to my Art.

(both K-5, FA 24-90)

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RE: PESO - Legs

2012-09-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Made me smile!

Fun photo.

Cheers,
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Subject: PESO - Legs


G'day all

Just a bit of fun from last year's 'Sculpture by the Sea when I took  
the *ist D out for a walk.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP0135-istD-peso.html


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Re: PESO: Kermit

2012-09-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Brian and Steve.

This is not the first frog to visit our pool.  The others left after
we removed them from the pool and placed them in a cool, moist place.
This character keeps returning, no matter what we do. He likes to hide
inside one of the floats that has open spaces on the underside, or in
the waterfall, but he also likes to swim freely across the bottom of
the pool.   I may have to take him for a ride in the car to the local
park.  
Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> Nice shot.  We find them in the pool a well sometimes.  They often
> need some help getting out since they can't manages the lip.
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Brian Walters  
> wrote:
>> Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :
>>
>>> The uninvited guest in our pool, resting in one of the skimmers:
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16412754
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Probably not green enough to be Kermit - unless it's been bleached by the
>> pool chlorine :-)>
>>
>> We have a green tree frog that lives in out bathroom underfloor drainage.
>> He complains every time someone takes a shower - startles the hell out of
>> visitors.
>>
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Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> Anyone know if the Foveon sensor outputs 8 bits-per-color or 16?

My understanding is that the quantization space is 12 bit per component.

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Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Toralf Lund  wrote:
> I thought one the main premises was that each sensor would absorb all
> the light for a certain range of wavelenghts, and not at all respond
> light outside that range, so that it would continue without any loss of
> energy to the next layer(s) (absorbing different wavelengths.) And also,
> that there weren't filters as such, just differences in the way the
> photo diodes respond to light, or whatever.
>
> But maybe the problem is that it's not quite like that in the real world...

Quite possible that that is how they implement the layering, by
embedding the light-absorbing dye into the photosite chemistry, but
there's still absorption between the layers which causes less total
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Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Mark Roberts  
> wrote:
>> Anyone know if the Foveon sensor outputs 8 bits-per-color or 16?
>
> My understanding is that the quantization space is 12 bit per component.

Ah, on the Sigma site for the SD1,
http://www.sigmaphoto.com/shop/sd1-dslr-sigma, under Specifications it
lists:

Image Recording Format:
Lossless compression RAW data (12-bit, High, Medium, Low), JPEG (High,
Medium, Low)

It's supposedly the same sensor as the DP2M.
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Re: OT cormorant cam

2012-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
LOL ... That's great!

On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> Second video down:
> http://www.popphoto.com/2012/08/13-best-animal-action-cams
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Re: PESO: Kermit

2012-09-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I love it that he is smiling at you

ann

On 9/5/2012 09:59, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Thanks, Brian and Steve.

This is not the first frog to visit our pool.  The others left after
we removed them from the pool and placed them in a cool, moist place.
This character keeps returning, no matter what we do. He likes to hide
inside one of the floats that has open spaces on the underside, or in
the waterfall, but he also likes to swim freely across the bottom of
the pool.   I may have to take him for a ride in the car to the local
park.  
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On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:

Nice shot.  We find them in the pool a well sometimes.  They often
need some help getting out since they can't manages the lip.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:

Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :


The uninvited guest in our pool, resting in one of the skimmers:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16412754





Probably not green enough to be Kermit - unless it's been bleached by the
pool chlorine :-)>

We have a green tree frog that lives in out bathroom underfloor drainage.
He complains every time someone takes a shower - startles the hell out of
visitors.



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Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread Toralf Lund

On 9/5/12 16:10, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Toralf Lund  wrote:

I thought one the main premises was that each sensor would absorb all
the light for a certain range of wavelenghts, and not at all respond
light outside that range, so that it would continue without any loss of
energy to the next layer(s) (absorbing different wavelengths.) And also,
that there weren't filters as such, just differences in the way the
photo diodes respond to light, or whatever.

But maybe the problem is that it's not quite like that in the real world...

Quite possible that that is how they implement the layering, by
embedding the light-absorbing dye into the photosite chemistry, but
there's still absorption between the layers which causes less total
light energy to strike the third layer than the first.
Yeah, there is bound to be some loss. Still, we're comparing with a 
setup where you quite deliberately block out a large proportion on of 
the light at every site, though, so there should be quite a bit to go on..


- Toralf


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Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread Toralf Lund

On 9/5/12 8:54, John Francis wrote:

On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 10:26:07PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:

I really like the concept behind the Foveon sensor - every
photo-site captures all 3 colors like film did&  no need for the
anti-aliasing, but what's the deal with the poor image quality above
ISO 400?

Physics.  If you don't have separate sensor sites for the three colo(u)rs,
then the photons for two of the colours have to pass through at least one
of the layers that contain the sensors for the other colours.

To oversimplify the situation, you can't create a sensor that captures all
the blue photons, and yet lets 100% of the red or green photons pass through.
As a result, the second and third layers don't receive 100% of the photons
that they would respond to if they were the frontmost layer. This leads to
a degradation in sensitivity and in the signal-to-noise ratio.
Quite. Like I sort of said elsewhere, though, it seems to me that you 
could pass through a lot less than 100% and still be better off than you 
are when filtering at every site.


Also, maybe there is actually more noise, too, and not just less signal 
- as a result of more complex read-out circuitry or whatever...


- Toralf





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Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
The Sigma site does say 12 bit and it's supposed to be the same
sensor.  I got my number from the LL article.




On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Toralf Lund  wrote:
> On 9/5/12 8:54, John Francis wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 10:26:07PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
>>>
>>> I really like the concept behind the Foveon sensor - every
>>> photo-site captures all 3 colors like film did&  no need for the
>>>
>>> anti-aliasing, but what's the deal with the poor image quality above
>>> ISO 400?
>>
>> Physics.  If you don't have separate sensor sites for the three colo(u)rs,
>> then the photons for two of the colours have to pass through at least one
>> of the layers that contain the sensors for the other colours.
>>
>> To oversimplify the situation, you can't create a sensor that captures all
>> the blue photons, and yet lets 100% of the red or green photons pass
>> through.
>> As a result, the second and third layers don't receive 100% of the photons
>> that they would respond to if they were the frontmost layer. This leads to
>> a degradation in sensitivity and in the signal-to-noise ratio.
>
> Quite. Like I sort of said elsewhere, though, it seems to me that you could
> pass through a lot less than 100% and still be better off than you are when
> filtering at every site.
>
> Also, maybe there is actually more noise, too, and not just less signal - as
> a result of more complex read-out circuitry or whatever...
>
> - Toralf
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Re: PESO - Legs

2012-09-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
I like it.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:57 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Made me smile!
>
> Fun photo.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens
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> --- Original Message ---
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> From: Brian Walters 
> Sent: September 5, 2012 9/5/12
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: PESO - Legs
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> G'day all
>
> Just a bit of fun from last year's 'Sculpture by the Sea when I took
> the *ist D out for a walk.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP0135-istD-peso.html
>
>
> Comments criticism, etc all welcome.
>
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Re: Mini-GESO: Golden Hour mammatus (4 photos)

2012-09-05 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 5, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

> In a fit of jealousy over Mark's shot of mammatus clouds during the golden 
> hour from GFM, I decided to spend every single night camped out in the yard 
> with my camera until I finally got some of my own. Well, I got them at about 
> 6:30 this morning.
> 
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157631419163014/
> 
> Granted, they lack the accompanying scenery of Mark's wonderful shot. And the 
> camping-out thing is a complete lie. Still, I'm just happy to have seen and 
> captured them.
> 

Beautiful colors.  Dreamy.

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Re: PESO - Legs

2012-09-05 Thread Bruce Walker
Great shot, Brian. Has that double-take magic.


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> G'day all
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> Just a bit of fun from last year's 'Sculpture by the Sea when I took the
> *ist D out for a walk.
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> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP0135-istD-peso.html
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Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread Darren Addy
I think there is some good info on the answers on this page (be sure
to click the "4 more answers" link:
http://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/22758/how-do-digital-sensors-that-capture-one-color-at-each-photosite-compare-to-senso

I think the most interesting comment on the above page is the following:
QUOTE:
 What you actually want is to cram so many megapixels in the sensor
that you can do away with the AA filter, and bin different coloured
pixels together if necessary to get Foveon style dense colour
sampling, but without the low light penalty or huge cost. With 24MP
crop sensors arriving that day is close!
CLOSE QUOTE:

I have never seen those two things connected before (cramming
megapixels previously considered a bad thing, as far as noise is
concerned). That seems to be part of what Pentax has made work on the
Q. The pixel pitch is incredibly small, but they have been able to
eliminate the AA filter. That also seems to be the direction that
Nikon has gone with the D800E. They've gone to way more megapixels
than Canon, but that has allowed them to eliminate the AA filter. I
would imagine that this approach means that you are giving up some
high ISO performance, so you have to pick your priorities, or have
different cameras for different priorities.

Related to the bit depth discussion, I also found this interesting:

QUOTE:
Since 12-bit data has 4,096 tonal levels and 14-bit data has 16,384
tonal levels, one might expect to see smoother tonal transitions and
less possibility of posterization with 14-bit capture, both of which
would result in higher image quality. However, this is currently not
the case for most 14-bit cameras due to the fact that digital noise
overwhelms the extra bit depth. Slicing the data more finely than the
level of noise means that the extra bit depth doesn't contribute to
image quality.

Another factor that keeps us from realizing extra image quality from a
14-bit sensor as opposed to a 12-bit sensor is that most current DSLR
cameras have less than 12 stops of dynamic range. Unfortunately, this
makes the extra bit depth superfluous data. There are some exceptions.
Fuji cameras employ two sets of pixels of differing sensitivity that
allow for spanning more than 13 stops, so 14-bit depth is useful in
that case. The latest Sony sensors, used in Nikon,
Pentax
and Sony cameras, have very low noise levels and high dynamic range
and so are close to being able to generate genuinely useful 14-bit
data.

As sensor technology continues to evolve, lower noise levels and
greater dynamic range promise to make high bit depth capture a useful
feature in future cameras.
CLOSE QUOTE

Source: http://dpbestflow.org/camera/sensor

It is worth noting that Dx0Mark has the K-5 with a Dynamic Range of
14.1 EVs. The K-01 (also 16MP but 12 bit, not 14) has a Dynamic Range
of only 12.9 EVs (a significant difference, IMHO).

Back to the Foveon... Dx0Mark does not even evaluate them saying (in
Sept. 2010): "We would love to add cameras featuring Foveon sensors
such as SD14/15, however the specific sensor structure and file format
requires some changes on the site to enable fair comparison with
Bayer-type sensors. We may then consider doing it at some point but
unfortunately we can't give any date." Source:
http://forum-test.dxomark.com/index.php?topic=296.0

And SD14 owner made some measurements and comparisons, which you can
see in the final comment on this page:
http://forum-test.dxomark.com/index.php?topic=296.0

His comments also address the color noise problem apparently inherent
to the Foveon design. Between that problem and the apparently
increased costs associated with producing Foveon sensors, I think they
will be limited to Sigmas only and be a niche product for people who
only want to work at low ISOs.

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Re: PESO: Kermit

2012-09-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
HE'S LAUGHING AT ME!
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On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> I love it that he is smiling at you
>
> ann
>
>
> On 9/5/2012 09:59, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Brian and Steve.
>>
>> This is not the first frog to visit our pool.  The others left after
>> we removed them from the pool and placed them in a cool, moist place.
>> This character keeps returning, no matter what we do. He likes to hide
>> inside one of the floats that has open spaces on the underside, or in
>> the waterfall, but he also likes to swim freely across the bottom of
>> the pool.   I may have to take him for a ride in the car to the local
>> park.  
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Steven Desjardins 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice shot.  We find them in the pool a well sometimes.  They often
>>> need some help getting out since they can't manages the lip.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Brian Walters 
>>> wrote:

 Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :

> The uninvited guest in our pool, resting in one of the skimmers:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16412754





 Probably not green enough to be Kermit - unless it's been bleached by
 the
 pool chlorine :-)>

 We have a green tree frog that lives in out bathroom underfloor
 drainage.
 He complains every time someone takes a shower - startles the hell out
 of
 visitors.



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Re: Taking the Tokina out for some exercise

2012-09-05 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 5, 2012, at 4:24 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

> Larry,
> 
> Au contraire; I usually set clarity to 15-20.  I find I'm using less in LR4 
> than I did in previous versions.

HAR!


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> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Larry Colen 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
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> Subject: Re: Taking the Tokina out for some exercise
> 
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> On Sep 4, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
> 
>> Larry, some of these are so noisy that I need ear plugs to look at them.
> 
> Mark!
> 
>> 
>> The "clarity" thing is a bit overdone, I think. 
> 
> 
> Either the clarity, or the shooting at ISO 20K. Or, all of the above.  I 
> certainly don't think that dialing clarity up to 11 should be my standard 
> procedure.  I think that it does have some potential use.  I'm just trying to 
> figure out when and how.  It sounds to me that you don't think it ever works.
> 
>> 
>> Compositionally, though, they're great.
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: GESO - First (non-macro) shots with Pentax Q

2012-09-05 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 2, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

> I was surprised with the MF using the kit lens.  For focus by wire, it
> surprisingly nice to use.  Unfortunately, I can't find a distance
> scale anywhere.  This is one of the shortcomings of the Q.

I don't understand why every new camera mount doesn't transmit focus distance 
to the body.  
I guess I do, in that it would cost money to implement it, and few people would 
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Re: PESO - Garsdale Skyline

2012-09-05 Thread Larry Colen
Nice composition.  That's an intriguing looking trestle.  
On Sep 3, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

> Garsdale (population about 200) is where we spent our three days in the 
> Yorkshire Dales:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16418272&size=lg
> 
> (K-5, DA 50-200).
> 
> The waterfall shown previously is behind the trees on the lower left.  The 
> inn and pub share the buildings on the left.  There's an impressive Victorian 
> railroad viaduct (still in use), and a small settlement built by the railroad 
> just to the right.
> 
> Comments always appreciated.
> 
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Re: Anyone in the market for a 560 mm?

2012-09-05 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 06:40:28PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote:
> I thought I saw a leaked price for the 560mm at $3800.

I wonder how much it weighs?  At $1/gm that would be 8lb+.  :-)

I think it might be a bit lighter than that; the 250-600/5.6
weighs in at 5400gm (almost 12lb), but that needs the zoom
mechanism and (probably) a slightly larger front element,
both of which would increase the weight.


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Re: The last Photokina speculation thread on PDML before Photokina

2012-09-05 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 02:37:07PM +1000, Brian Walters wrote:
> 
> Quoting John Sessoms :
> 
> >
> >I want to know what the hell Tanya was shown that made her hint so
> >strongly about "FF" & "September". The way she worded it, I would
> >expect she must at least have seen a functioning prototype.
> 
> I don't think Tan actually saw anything but it was strongly hinted
> by someone 'in the know' that a full frame was coming.
> 
That was the impression I got, too.

I pretty much discounted it - this was by no means the first time
somebody in the distribution chain has assured users such-and-such
a lens/body/whatever was coming.  I'm sure Tanya wasn't exaggerating
anything, but I doubt if her 'inside source' had anywhere near as
definite information as he would have Tanya believe.


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Re: The last Photokina speculation thread on PDML before Photokina

2012-09-05 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 1:12 PM, John Francis  wrote:

>> I don't think Tan actually saw anything but it was strongly hinted
>> by someone 'in the know' that a full frame was coming.
>>
> That was the impression I got, too.
>
> I pretty much discounted it - this was by no means the first time
> somebody in the distribution chain has assured users such-and-such
> a lens/body/whatever was coming.  I'm sure Tanya wasn't exaggerating
> anything, but I doubt if her 'inside source' had anywhere near as
> definite information as he would have Tanya believe.

I don't know what's in the water down under, but they're still drinking it:
http://photorumors.com/2012/09/05/pentax-australia-good-things-are-coming/

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RE: PESO - Garsdale Viaduct

2012-09-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Rick Womer


I went out one evening to photograph the Garsdale viaduct, another
beautiful piece of Victorian engineering and construction:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16425412&size=lg


Of course, I wanted something to give it some movement or scale.? I
lingered for about a half hour.? A man walked by, but went the wrong
way.? A train, maybe?? No train, not even a distant whistle.

So after a half hour, with light fading and getting cold, I headed
back to the inn.? Halfway back, on a bridge across the road:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16425413&size=lg


I guess I'm just not sufficiently dedicated to my Art.

(both K-5, FA 24-90)

Rick


The path in the foreground gives some sense of scale.

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Re: PESO - So Many Questions

2012-09-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: "knarftheriault

It only occurred to me to check out the site after I posted.

Grammatical error ~in the first sentence~ of the home page (subject
doesn't agree with predicate).

Quite impressive...

:-\

cheers, frank


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Re: The last Photokina speculation thread on PDML before, Photokina

2012-09-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Brian Walters

Quoting John Sessoms :



I want to know what the hell Tanya was shown that made her hint so
strongly about "FF" & "September". The way she worded it, I would
expect she must at least have seen a functioning prototype.

NDAs for vaporware suck.




I don't think Tan actually saw anything but it was strongly hinted by
someone 'in the know' that a full frame was coming.

Unless Ricoh/Pentax have been maintaining abnormally good secrecy and
threatening dire consequences to any 'leakers', it looks like it's not
going to happen - this September anyway.




That might make sense.

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Re: The last Photokina speculation thread on PDML before Photokina

2012-09-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Maybe it's only coming to Australia.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 1:12 PM, John Francis  wrote:
>
>>> I don't think Tan actually saw anything but it was strongly hinted
>>> by someone 'in the know' that a full frame was coming.
>>>
>> That was the impression I got, too.
>>
>> I pretty much discounted it - this was by no means the first time
>> somebody in the distribution chain has assured users such-and-such
>> a lens/body/whatever was coming.  I'm sure Tanya wasn't exaggerating
>> anything, but I doubt if her 'inside source' had anywhere near as
>> definite information as he would have Tanya believe.
>
> I don't know what's in the water down under, but they're still drinking it:
> http://photorumors.com/2012/09/05/pentax-australia-good-things-are-coming/
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Re: Peso York Durham Heritage Railway

2012-09-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Brian Walters

Quoting David J Brooks :


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16415852

One weekends in the summer, some rail enthusiast operate an old diesel
engine with 2-3 cars and a bright red caboose on tours between
Stouffville and Uxbridge here in Ontario. I just happened to be
driving by Sunday with G3 in the truck. Not really, i was awaiting for
it.




Impressive - unusual looking locomotive.

It be tempted to crop out about half of the sky a a tad at the bottom
to make in more of a panorama format.


What makes the locomotive "unusual looking"? It looks like a bog 
standard diesel to me.




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Re: The last Photokina speculation thread on PDML before Photokina

2012-09-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Matthew Hunt  wrote:

>On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 1:12 PM, John Francis  wrote:
>
>>> I don't think Tan actually saw anything but it was strongly hinted
>>> by someone 'in the know' that a full frame was coming.
>>>
>> That was the impression I got, too.
>>
>> I pretty much discounted it - this was by no means the first time
>> somebody in the distribution chain has assured users such-and-such
>> a lens/body/whatever was coming.  I'm sure Tanya wasn't exaggerating
>> anything, but I doubt if her 'inside source' had anywhere near as
>> definite information as he would have Tanya believe.
>
>I don't know what's in the water down under, but they're still drinking it:
>http://photorumors.com/2012/09/05/pentax-australia-good-things-are-coming/

Tanya said it was more than a hint: She was at a convention of some
sort, IIRC, when one of the heads of marketing from Pentax Australia
told her explicitly.
http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2012-May/315084.html

I'm surprised a link to her email in the PDML archives hasn't been
making the rounds with the rumors.

At any rate, we won't have long to wait to find out.

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Re: PESO - So Many Questions

2012-09-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Brian Walters

Quoting frank theriault :

My mind swims at the possibilities:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/so-many-questions.html

Ideas?  Do we want to know?




I thought it must have been a company that does video inspections of
underground pipelines.

Strange title for the services they actually provide and, yes, pity
about the grammatical error on the website.



I'd bet "Flush" is the guy's last name. No stranger name than "Smith 
Photography" would be.


For his customers' sake, I hope he's a better photographer than he is a 
web designer.


But, I doubt he is.

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Re: Peso York Durham Heritage Railway

2012-09-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Wonderful photo, Dave. As usual you got a great result from your IR conversion. 
Really like the composition and the subject matter - just love those old 
streamliners, especially the steam ones.

Terrific shot!

cheers,
frank 

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Brian Walters 
Sent: September 5, 2012 9/5/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: Peso York Durham Heritage Railway

Quoting David J Brooks :

> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16415852
>
> One weekends in the summer, some rail enthusiast operate an old diesel
> engine with 2-3 cars and a bright red caboose on tours between
> Stouffville and Uxbridge here in Ontario. I just happened to be
> driving by Sunday with G3 in the truck. Not really, i was awaiting for
> it.



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It be tempted to crop out about half of the sky a a tad at the bottom  
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Re: The last Photokina speculation thread on PDML before, Photokina

2012-09-05 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 5, 2012, at 11:06 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: Brian Walters
>> Quoting John Sessoms :
>> 
>>> 
>>> I want to know what the hell Tanya was shown that made her hint so
>>> strongly about "FF" & "September". The way she worded it, I would
>>> expect she must at least have seen a functioning prototype.
>>> 
>>> NDAs for vaporware suck.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I don't think Tan actually saw anything but it was strongly hinted by
>> someone 'in the know' that a full frame was coming.
>> 
>> Unless Ricoh/Pentax have been maintaining abnormally good secrecy and
>> threatening dire consequences to any 'leakers', it looks like it's not
>> going to happen - this September anyway.
>> 
>> 
> 
> That might make sense.

It's full frame, but for the 110 format.

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Re: OT; Review of Sigma DP2M at Luminous-Landscape

2012-09-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Godfrey DiGiorgi


A Fovean sensor stacks three photosites in each pixel location on the
sensor, with a color filter between them. I don't know precisely how
they order the stack, but it would make sense to order it blue, green,
red since short wavelengths are more easily absorbed than longer
wavelengths. But what this means is that the light energy hitting the
bottom layer is inevitably reduced compared to what hits the top
layer. They compensate to some degree by making the three layers
differentially sensitive, either by adjusting the signal amplification
or by staggering the photosite sizings, I don't know.


If memory serves blue, green, red was the order of the emulsion layers 
on film.


There's a cross section of the Foveon X3 buried down in the article 
showing a blue sensor layer on top, a green sensor layer that is twice 
as thick in the middle and a bottom red sensor layer that is twice the 
thickness of the green layer on the bottom.


I don't know if the thickness differences are real or just an 
illustration to show how the X3 amplifies the light signal in the lower 
layers to achieve color balance.


So, I guess the problem with high ISO performance might be inherent in 
the sensor.


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Re: PESO x3: Thunderstorm

2012-09-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: David Mann


On Sep 5, 2012, at 1:51 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

I think there's a hacked firmware for the K10D/K20D that allows you
to turn off the dark frame subtraction, but I've never had the
nerve to try it.


Interesting, I was thinking there would be a menu option to switch it
off but was too busy shooting to waste time looking for it.

I also thought that one solution would be to buy a second body &
tripod so one can be shooting while the other is subtracting :)

Dave


The whole dark frame subtraction issue was discussed here once before, 
which is what made me go look for the hacked firmware. IIRC, the hacked 
firmware allows you to insert a command while flashing the firmware that 
in turn allows you to display a debug menu at start-up & that's where 
you can turn dark frame subtraction off/on.


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Re: The last Photokina speculation thread on PDML before Photokina

2012-09-05 Thread Darren Addy
>> Unless Ricoh/Pentax have been maintaining abnormally good secrecy and
>> threatening dire consequences to any 'leakers', it looks like it's not
>> going to happen - this September anyway.

There is another possibility, that I am starting to think might have
some credence. The leaks have been "hiding in plain sight" all along.
In other words, the PF "April Fools" joke was an unauthorized leak by
Pentax Forums, but they got away with it because they released it on
April 1 and then played it off as if it were a joke. That page
contains an "Update" that ends with " Despite this, we do hope to have
the pleasure of making this announcement for real at some point in the
near future!"
http://www.pentaxforums.com/news/pentax-k-3-announced.html

If you go back and look at the time line of the rumors, you'll find
that Tanya's info was right around the same time that others started
leaking more info about a FF K-3 (in June 2012). Part of the info at
that time stated that Sony and Pentax have an agreement that gives
Sony's A99 (a 24.3MP FF) 6 months lead time in the market. The A99 is
supposed to be officially announced on Sept. 12 and being sold in
stores by October (in time for the 2012 holiday shopping season). Such
an agreement would make Pentax miss that shopping season, and would
have them shipping in the Spring of 2013. (Unclear when they would be
free to announce it, however.) Other rumors stated that a new grip and
flash would be introduced along with a new FF kit lens that would
start at 28mm. Certainly a flurry of stuff all related to a new FF
camera could result in a lot of simultaneous press releases.

The two things that have the "ring of truth" to them (to me) are:
Sony requiring a 6 mo. lead time (and a full holiday shopping season
advantage) to themselves, before letting Pentax market the same
sensor.
"The World's Smallest Full Frame" (the purported tagline) sounds
exactly like something that would come from Pentax's lame marketing
department (or whoever they hire for that stuff).

The reason for no new leaks is partly because the accurate info has
been out there for quite a while. That would make more recent news
that the K-3 is a APS-C camera a deliberate misdirect (and I'm not
sure what good that does anybody other than make the roar bigger when
it turns out to be a FF)?

Just trying to think of all the possibilities.

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Re: PESO - So Many Questions

2012-09-05 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 5, 2012, at 11:54 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: Brian Walters
>> Quoting frank theriault :
>>> My mind swims at the possibilities:
>>> 
>>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/so-many-questions.html
>>> 
>>> Ideas?  Do we want to know?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I thought it must have been a company that does video inspections of
>> underground pipelines.
>> 
>> Strange title for the services they actually provide and, yes, pity
>> about the grammatical error on the website.
>> 
> 
> I'd bet "Flush" is the guy's last name. No stranger name than "Smith 
> Photography" would be.
> 
> For his customers' sake, I hope he's a better photographer than he is a web 
> designer.
> 
> But, I doubt he is.

Did you look at the photos he posted. The ones that you might assume are his 
best work?

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Re: The last Photokina speculation thread on PDML before Photokina

2012-09-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Darren Addy  wrote:

>>> Unless Ricoh/Pentax have been maintaining abnormally good secrecy and
>>> threatening dire consequences to any 'leakers', it looks like it's not
>>> going to happen - this September anyway.
>
>There is another possibility, that I am starting to think might have
>some credence.

Oh yeah. I think all the "leaks" I've seen this year (with the
exception of Tanya's) have appeared not a moment before Pentax wanted
them to. They seem to have really tightened things down in this
regard.
I'm assuming thay know no one will pay any attention to Tanya 

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Re: OT: getting reacquainted with the Leica CL

2012-09-05 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 3/9/12, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Leica:
>Make a digital CL with three lenses, just like this. The sensor in the
>X2 would be fine. Compact 14mm f/4, 28/2, 60/2.8 lenses tailored for
>it would be fine too. Keep it simple, keep it manual focus and
>rangefinder, keep it handy. It can be done: you can do it.
>*Please.*

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Re: PESO - Freedom (warning, bike content)

2012-09-05 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 3/9/12, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/the-new-steed.html
>
>And we bought it.  After 20 years off a bike, Judy finally has one!
>It's a Specialized Globe Carmel 02. Barely ridden, in perfect shape,
>we got it for a great price.

Thats really great. Why Frankie I'd say you're still in love there mate ;-)

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OT - "ND filter built in - Samsung EX2F" - what does it mean?

2012-09-05 Thread Igor Roshchin


Finally, Samsung EX2F appeared at B&H.
It's a P&S camera with a fast (f/1.4-2.7) zoom.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=877078&Q=&is=REG&A=ShowProduct

What puzzles me a bit is the footnote next to the max aperture under
"specifications" tab:
"Please Note: Built-in ND filter".
I know what a neutral density filter does. But I wonder if it is
permanently build in (to cope with the huge amount of light, while 
allowing the shallower DOF), or it moves in under certain condition.
The latter sounds like a big mechanical complication to me, while the
former defeats one of the purposes of having a fast lens.

Any thoughts?

I am considering this or Lumix LX7 as a possible "pocket camera".
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880966-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7w_Lumix_LX7_Digital_Camera.html
That camera has a slightly faster, f/1.4-2.3, lens with a slightly longer 
reach of the zoom (24-90mm equiv vs 24-80mm).

Igor

PS. Lumix LX7 has a funny footnote about the lens:
"One Nano Surface Coating Lens"




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2012-09-05 Thread Don Guthrie

Thanks Everyone who looked and commented I appreciate the feedback.

Bruce asked about the presets in Silver efx. I used a preset for each 
B&W and I made small adjustments peaking the contrast and shadows. I 
also used the control points mostly to back off the structure in certain 
areas like the grass.


Frank yes The French Church is the only name I've known it to have. I 
will upload a link to a gallery which includes photos of the sign and 
other angles as well as a few in color.









pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 11
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 13:45:52 + (UTC)
From:"knarftheria...@gmail.com"  
To: "\"Pentax-Discuss Mail List\""
Subject: RE: Peso The French Church B&W
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<215743165.143059.1346852764324.javamail.se...@ap7.p2.fra.samsungsocialhub.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Beautiful composition, beautifully rendered. Does this French church have a 
name? I know in Quebec some of the towns and churches are named after very 
little-known saints (my favourite is St. Polycarpe), so I'm wondering if this 
might have one of those glorious archaic names...

Cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Don Guthrie
Sent: September 4, 2012 9/4/12
To:pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Peso The French Church B&W

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Geso The rest of the French Church photos

2012-09-05 Thread Don Guthrie
Here are the rest (7) of the French church photos including some color 
versions. If you care to take the time to look.


Someone (maybe Bob W. ( my mail program seems to have deleted some mail) 
asked about a color version.



http://flic.kr/s/aHsjBX14vy

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157631426971118/


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Re: Peso York Durham Heritage Railway

2012-09-05 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting John Sessoms :


From: Brian Walters

Quoting David J Brooks :


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16415852

One weekends in the summer, some rail enthusiast operate an old diesel
engine with 2-3 cars and a bright red caboose on tours between
Stouffville and Uxbridge here in Ontario. I just happened to be
driving by Sunday with G3 in the truck. Not really, i was awaiting for
it.




Impressive - unusual looking locomotive.

It be tempted to crop out about half of the sky a a tad at the bottom
to make in more of a panorama format.


What makes the locomotive "unusual looking"? It looks like a bog  
standard diesel to me.




That structure directly in front of the cab windows.


Cheers

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Re: Geso The rest of the French Church photos

2012-09-05 Thread Jack Davis
Really like Cemetery #1.

Jack Davis
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From: Don Guthrie 
To: pdml@pdml.net 
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 3:35 PM
Subject: Geso The rest of the French Church photos

Here are the rest (7) of the French church photos including some color 
versions. If you care to take the time to look.

Someone (maybe Bob W. ( my mail program seems to have deleted some mail) asked 
about a color version.


http://flic.kr/s/aHsjBX14vy

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157631426971118/


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September PUG is Up!!

2012-09-05 Thread Brian Walters

G'day all

After a slow start, there was a rush of submissions to give us a grand  
total of 29 submissions.  And a great lot of photos they are, with  
quite a few variations on the theme as well.


As usual, you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery there)

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not  
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the  
gallery, let me know.


+

For October the theme is 'Doors'.

Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html


The main requirements are:

* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body  
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* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to  
ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line.

* Nominal closing date for submissions: 31 May.



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Peso: My Yard

2012-09-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
I didn't ask for a model release:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-GfHZHX5/0/XL/myyard-XL.jpg
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Re: September PUG is Up!!

2012-09-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Lovely gallery.  My fave is the "Hall of Fame" shot by Matthew.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all
>
> After a slow start, there was a rush of submissions to give us a grand total
> of 29 submissions.  And a great lot of photos they are, with quite a few
> variations on the theme as well.
>
> As usual, you'll find the gallery here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery there)
>
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
> gallery, let me know.
>
> +
>
> For October the theme is 'Doors'.
>
> Submit here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>
> Submission Guidelines here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>
>
> The main requirements are:
>
> * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
> * Max file size: 300k
> * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
> lens used is Pentax.
> * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that
> the image is displayed correctly on line.
> * Nominal closing date for submissions: 31 May.
>
>
>
> --
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>
> Brian
>
> ++
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Re: Geso The rest of the French Church photos

2012-09-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'm with Jack on this one.  I do like the sign that says "The French
Church", however.  I didn't realize that was an actual name.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Really like Cemetery #1.
>
> Jack Davis
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis
> http://www.photolightimages.com/
>
> From: Don Guthrie 
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 3:35 PM
> Subject: Geso The rest of the French Church photos
>
> Here are the rest (7) of the French church photos including some color 
> versions. If you care to take the time to look.
>
> Someone (maybe Bob W. ( my mail program seems to have deleted some mail) 
> asked about a color version.
>
>
> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjBX14vy
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157631426971118/
>
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Re: OT - "ND filter built in - Samsung EX2F" - what does it mean?

2012-09-05 Thread Peter McIntosh
On 6 September 2012 08:18, Igor Roshchin  wrote:
>
>
> Finally, Samsung EX2F appeared at B&H.
> It's a P&S camera with a fast (f/1.4-2.7) zoom.
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=877078&Q=&is=REG&A=ShowProduct
>
> What puzzles me a bit is the footnote next to the max aperture under
> "specifications" tab:
> "Please Note: Built-in ND filter".
> I know what a neutral density filter does. But I wonder if it is
> permanently build in (to cope with the huge amount of light, while
> allowing the shallower DOF), or it moves in under certain condition.
> The latter sounds like a big mechanical complication to me, while the
> former defeats one of the purposes of having a fast lens.
>
> Any thoughts?
>

I have a little Olympus XZ-1 as my pocket camera, and it also has a
built-in ND filter. It's not a mechanical filter - simply a firmware
feature that mimics a ND filter's behaviour.  It is menu-controlled.
Works well in the Olympus too.

Hope this helps.

Ciao,

Pete Mac in Melbourne

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Re: September PUG is Up!!

2012-09-05 Thread Bruce Walker
Terrific gallery. Standouts for me:

Texas Prairie Storm - Joseph McAllister  -- love these colours
A Walk in the Park - Patrick Temmerman  -- great composition!
Nocturnal Canoeing - Rick Womer  -- perfect exposure


On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
>
> G'day all
>
> After a slow start, there was a rush of submissions to give us a grand
> total of 29 submissions.  And a great lot of photos they are, with quite a
> few variations on the theme as well.
>
> As usual, you'll find the gallery here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
> there)
>
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
> gallery, let me know.
>
> +
>
> For October the theme is 'Doors'.
>
> Submit here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>
> Submission Guidelines here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>
>
> The main requirements are:
>
> * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
> * Max file size: 300k
> * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
> lens used is Pentax.
> * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure
> that the image is displayed correctly on line.
> * Nominal closing date for submissions: 31 May.
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
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Re: PESO Green Tech

2012-09-05 Thread Bruce Walker
Thank you very much, Frank.

A major departure for me. Landscape, street and graphic composition
are weak areas for me, so I usually avoid them. :-) But I keep on
studying the masters and hope something sinks in ...


On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:47 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> I'll jump in late to say how much I like this one. Simple, spare composition, 
> beautiful blue sky.
>
> A winner!
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Bruce Walker 
> Sent: September 4, 2012 9/4/12
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: PESO Green Tech
>
> Thank you Larry, Steve, Dave and Tim!
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Tim Bray  wrote:
>> Strong shot; wouldn’t change a thing. -T
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/7915258122/lightbox/
>>>
>>> Comments, criticism welcome.
>>>
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OT hipster parody

2012-09-05 Thread Bruce Walker
This is *really* well done and hilarious:

@thexavius: Portrait of an Instagram Artist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i9wUa8ofvE

Spewage warning: do not attempt to drink fluids while watching.

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Re: Peso York Durham Heritage Railway

2012-09-05 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> Quoting John Sessoms :
>
>> From: Brian Walters
>>>
>>> Quoting David J Brooks :
>>>
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16415852

 One weekends in the summer, some rail enthusiast operate an old diesel
 engine with 2-3 cars and a bright red caboose on tours between
 Stouffville and Uxbridge here in Ontario. I just happened to be
 driving by Sunday with G3 in the truck. Not really, i was awaiting for
 it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Impressive - unusual looking locomotive.
>>>
>>> It be tempted to crop out about half of the sky a a tad at the bottom
>>> to make in more of a panorama format.
>>
>>
>> What makes the locomotive "unusual looking"? It looks like a bog standard
>> diesel to me.
>
>
>
>
> That structure directly in front of the cab windows.

Scrool down about 1/2 way or so and there are some colour photos. The
engine is from the 50's and the cars are WWI era.
http://www.ydhr.ca/about.php

Dave
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
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Re: Peso York Durham Heritage Railway

2012-09-05 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:55 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Wonderful photo, Dave. As usual you got a great result from your IR 
> conversion. Really like the composition and the subject matter - just love 
> those old streamliners, especially the steam ones.

There is a similar operation in Tottenham, which uses a steam engine
for its heritage tour to Beeton. Thats next, maybe during the fall
colours.

Dave
>
> Terrific shot!
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Brian Walters 
> Sent: September 5, 2012 9/5/12
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: Peso York Durham Heritage Railway
>
> Quoting David J Brooks :
>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16415852
>>
>> One weekends in the summer, some rail enthusiast operate an old diesel
>> engine with 2-3 cars and a bright red caboose on tours between
>> Stouffville and Uxbridge here in Ontario. I just happened to be
>> driving by Sunday with G3 in the truck. Not really, i was awaiting for
>> it.
>
>
>
> Impressive - unusual looking locomotive.
>
> It be tempted to crop out about half of the sky a a tad at the bottom
> to make in more of a panorama format.
>
>
>
> --
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>
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Re: PESO - So Many Questions

2012-09-05 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 10:03 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> My mind swims at the possibilities:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/so-many-questions.html
>
> Ideas?  Do we want to know?

Some people plunge into a business to fast.

Dave
>
> ;-)
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
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Re: PESO - So Many Questions

2012-09-05 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 8:19 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 10:03 PM, frank theriault
>  wrote:
>> My mind swims at the possibilities:
>>
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/so-many-questions.html
>>
>> Ideas?  Do we want to know?
>
> Some people plunge into a business to fast.

For many, it's a trap.

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Re: Peso: My Yard

2012-09-05 Thread Bruce Walker
Looks more curious than threatening. I like it, Steve.

Technically, you'd need a property release anyway. :-)


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> I didn't ask for a model release:
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Re: OT - "ND filter built in - Samsung EX2F" - what does it mean?

2012-09-05 Thread Mark C
The Q Has that as well -it is a physical filter built into the kit lens 
and the zoom but not hte toy lenses. I assume it is to allow large 
apertures in bright light.


The Q has a maximum shutter speed of 1/2000. The sunny 16 rule would 
suggest that at ISO 125  (the lowest the Q supports) a shutter speed of 
1/2000 would correlate to f 5.6. Any more open aperture would be over 
exposed (if the rule is valid).  The 2 stop ND filter would allow you to 
shoot in full brutal sun at 1/2000th and f 1.9, should you want shallow 
depth of field. It also accomodates the f 2.8 - f 4.5 aperture range on 
the zoom. The toy lenses with fixed apertures are not fast enough to 
ever need the ND filter, so they don't have them.


And you can get more creamy waterfall shots as well...

Mark

On 9/5/2012 6:18 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


Finally, Samsung EX2F appeared at B&H.
It's a P&S camera with a fast (f/1.4-2.7) zoom.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=877078&Q=&is=REG&A=ShowProduct

What puzzles me a bit is the footnote next to the max aperture under
"specifications" tab:
"Please Note: Built-in ND filter".
I know what a neutral density filter does. But I wonder if it is
permanently build in (to cope with the huge amount of light, while
allowing the shallower DOF), or it moves in under certain condition.
The latter sounds like a big mechanical complication to me, while the
former defeats one of the purposes of having a fast lens.

Any thoughts?

I am considering this or Lumix LX7 as a possible "pocket camera".
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880966-REG/Panasonic_dmc_lx7w_Lumix_LX7_Digital_Camera.html
That camera has a slightly faster, f/1.4-2.3, lens with a slightly longer
reach of the zoom (24-90mm equiv vs 24-80mm).

Igor

PS. Lumix LX7 has a funny footnote about the lens:
"One Nano Surface Coating Lens"







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Re: OT - "ND filter built in - Samsung EX2F" - what does it mean?

2012-09-05 Thread Igor Roshchin

Wed Sep 5 19:42:30 EDT 2012
Peter McIntosh wrote:

> On 6 September 2012 08:18, Igor Roshchin  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Finally, Samsung EX2F appeared at B&H.
> > It's a P&S camera with a fast (f/1.4-2.7) zoom.
> > http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=877078&Q=&is=REG&A=ShowProduct
> >
> > What puzzles me a bit is the footnote next to the max aperture under
> > "specifications" tab:
> > "Please Note: Built-in ND filter".
> > I know what a neutral density filter does. But I wonder if it is
> > permanently build in (to cope with the huge amount of light, while
> > allowing the shallower DOF), or it moves in under certain condition.
> > The latter sounds like a big mechanical complication to me, while the
> > former defeats one of the purposes of having a fast lens.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> 
> I have a little Olympus XZ-1 as my pocket camera, and it also has a
> built-in ND filter. It's not a mechanical filter - simply a firmware
> feature that mimics a ND filter's behaviour.  It is menu-controlled.
> Works well in the Olympus too.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Ciao,
> 
> Pete Mac in Melbourne

Pete, that indeed helps, thank you!

It also brought up some additional questions:
1) How is it implemented (i.e. do you just set it as "on" and "off",
or is it more complicated, e.g. conditional on the high/low light
levels?)

2) I wonder how it is actually implemented. I guess, one way to do that
is to decrease the gain on the sensor elements.

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Re: OT hipster parody

2012-09-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Now you can take a picture and make it look like it was taken with an
old Russian camera.  Epic.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> This is *really* well done and hilarious:
>
> @thexavius: Portrait of an Instagram Artist
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i9wUa8ofvE
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Re: OT - "ND filter built in - Samsung EX2F" - what does it mean?

2012-09-05 Thread Peter McIntosh
On 6 September 2012 11:02, Igor Roshchin  wrote:
>
> Wed Sep 5 19:42:30 EDT 2012
> Peter McIntosh wrote:
>
> Pete, that indeed helps, thank you!
>
> It also brought up some additional questions:
> 1) How is it implemented (i.e. do you just set it as "on" and "off",
> or is it more complicated, e.g. conditional on the high/low light
> levels?)
>
> 2) I wonder how it is actually implemented. I guess, one way to do that
> is to decrease the gain on the sensor elements.
>
> Igor
>

Hi Igor,

1) - a simple on and off via the menus.
2) - absolutely no idea...  :-)

Ciao,

Pete Mac in Melbourne

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Re: The last Photokina speculation thread on PDML before Photokina

2012-09-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: John Francis

On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 02:37:07PM +1000, Brian Walters wrote:


Quoting John Sessoms :



I want to know what the hell Tanya was shown that made her hint so
strongly about "FF" & "September". The way she worded it, I would
expect she must at least have seen a functioning prototype.


I don't think Tan actually saw anything but it was strongly hinted
by someone 'in the know' that a full frame was coming.


That was the impression I got, too.

I pretty much discounted it - this was by no means the first time
somebody in the distribution chain has assured users such-and-such
a lens/body/whatever was coming.  I'm sure Tanya wasn't exaggerating
anything, but I doubt if her 'inside source' had anywhere near as
definite information as he would have Tanya believe.




I don't doubt Tanya on this, but I had got the impression she was 
actually shown some piece of equipment. That may be my mistake.


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Re: OT hipster parody

2012-09-05 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Bruce Walker :


This is *really* well done and hilarious:

@thexavius: Portrait of an Instagram Artist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i9wUa8ofvE

Spewage warning: do not attempt to drink fluids while watching.



Thanks for the warning - I was reading PDML with my mid-morning coffee  
within reach.


Love the quote "what's the point of having limits if you can't push  
yourself past them".




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Re: PESO - So Many Questions

2012-09-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen

On Sep 5, 2012, at 11:54 AM, John Sessoms wrote:


From: Brian Walters

Quoting frank theriault :

My mind swims at the possibilities:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/so-many-questions.html

Ideas?  Do we want to know?




I thought it must have been a company that does video inspections of
underground pipelines.

Strange title for the services they actually provide and, yes, pity
about the grammatical error on the website.



I'd bet "Flush" is the guy's last name. No stranger name than "Smith 
Photography" would be.

For his customers' sake, I hope he's a better photographer than he is a web 
designer.

But, I doubt he is.


Did you look at the photos he posted. The ones that you might assume are his 
best work?





What part of "But, I doubt he is." did you not understand?

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Re: The last Photokina speculation thread on PDML before Photokina

2012-09-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Mark Roberts

Darren Addy  wrote:


Unless Ricoh/Pentax have been maintaining abnormally good secrecy and
threatening dire consequences to any 'leakers', it looks like it's not
going to happen - this September anyway.


There is another possibility, that I am starting to think might have
some credence.


Oh yeah. I think all the "leaks" I've seen this year (with the
exception of Tanya's) have appeared not a moment before Pentax wanted
them to. They seem to have really tightened things down in this
regard.
I'm assuming thay know no one will pay any attention to Tanya 




Wouldn't that depend on whether whatever Tanya is showing is worth 
looking at?


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Re: PESO - Garsdale Viaduct

2012-09-05 Thread Rick Womer
Dan, Brian, Knarf, John,

Thanks very much!

Rick
 
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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From: John Sessoms 
To: pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 1:51 PM
Subject: RE: PESO - Garsdale Viaduct

From: Rick Womer

> I went out one evening to photograph the Garsdale viaduct, another
> beautiful piece of Victorian engineering and construction:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16425412&size=lg
>
>
> Of course, I wanted something to give it some movement or scale.? I
> lingered for about a half hour.? A man walked by, but went the wrong
> way.? A train, maybe?? No train, not even a distant whistle.
>
> So after a half hour, with light fading and getting cold, I headed
> back to the inn.? Halfway back, on a bridge across the road:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16425413&size=lg
>
>
> I guess I'm just not sufficiently dedicated to my Art.
>
> (both K-5, FA 24-90)
>
> Rick

The path in the foreground gives some sense of scale.

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Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-09-05 Thread Mark C

On 9/4/2012 12:12 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:



By the way lens sharpness is really a combination of resolution and 
contrast, and is quite subjective, so he starts out from an incorrect 
premiss from his first sentence..


I'm glad that somebody brought that up. "Sharpness" is the combined 
effect of edge contrast (acutance) and resolution. But that won't stop 
people who are incapable of critical thought and unable to look, 
comprehend,  and analysis the visual elements that make up a photograph 
from opining at great lengths about subjective impressions like 
"sharpness"...


I almost composed a rant about this but dammit, I'm committed to being 
mellow.


Mark

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Re: Peso York Durham Heritage Railway

2012-09-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Brian Walters


Quoting John Sessoms :


From: Brian Walters

Quoting David J Brooks :


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16415852

One weekends in the summer, some rail enthusiast operate an old diesel
engine with 2-3 cars and a bright red caboose on tours between
Stouffville and Uxbridge here in Ontario. I just happened to be
driving by Sunday with G3 in the truck. Not really, i was awaiting for
it.




Impressive - unusual looking locomotive.

It be tempted to crop out about half of the sky a a tad at the bottom
to make in more of a panorama format.


What makes the locomotive "unusual looking"? It looks like a bog
standard diesel to me.




That structure directly in front of the cab windows.



I still don't see what you're referring to?

http://www.railpictures.net/showphotos.php?railroad=York%20Durham%20Heritage%20Railway

It appears to be a standard Alco RS-11.

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RE: OT hipster parody

2012-09-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bruce Walker


This is *really* well done and hilarious:

@thexavius: Portrait of an Instagram Artist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i9wUa8ofvE

Spewage warning: do not attempt to drink fluids while watching.


Are you sure this was supposed to be a parody???

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PESO - This Way... or Maybe That Way...

2012-09-05 Thread Rick Womer
It can be challenging to follow a footpath in the Yorkshire Dales:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16425612&size=lg


(the camera was level)

Comments always welcomed.

Rick

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Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-09-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Mark!!

(Roberts, of course)

cheers,
frank

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From: Mark C 


I almost composed a rant about this but dammit, I'm committed to being 
mellow.

Mark

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PESO - Storm Brewing

2012-09-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Still not sure about this one. Let me know what you think:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/storm-brewing.html?m=1

Thanks. Hope you enjoy.

Cheers,
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Re: Peso York Durham Heritage Railway

2012-09-05 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting John Sessoms :


Quoting John Sessoms :




What makes the locomotive "unusual looking"? It looks like a bog
standard diesel to me.




That structure directly in front of the cab windows.



I still don't see what you're referring to?

http://www.railpictures.net/showphotos.php?railroad=York%20Durham%20Heritage%20Railway

It appears to be a standard Alco RS-11.



Yes, well.  Looking at Dave's original image, I thought the loco was  
travelling short hood first.  There's some sort of reflection on the  
side that I thought was a cab window.  Looking at the Durham Heritage  
Railway's rolling stock shots and your link to the Alco, it seems that  
the loco was travelling long hood first and it's not so unusual after  
all.


In my defence, the Alco RS-11 *is* unusual downunder (er...I think).


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Re: PESO - Storm Brewing

2012-09-05 Thread Jack Davis
A darker, more brooding, God's wrath sky would help.


Jack Davis
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Subject: PESO - Storm Brewing

Still not sure about this one. Let me know what you think:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/storm-brewing.html?m=1

Thanks. Hope you enjoy.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Storm Brewing

2012-09-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I think you're right. Back to the drawing board - or Photoshop, as the case may 
be.

Thanks for the input, Jack!

cheers,
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"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
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From: Jack Davis 
Sent: September 5, 2012 9/5/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Storm Brewing

A darker, more brooding, God's wrath sky would help.


Jack Davis
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Subject: PESO - Storm Brewing

Still not sure about this one. Let me know what you think:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/storm-brewing.html?m=1

Thanks. Hope you enjoy.

Cheers,
frank 

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Questions about tripod heads.

2012-09-05 Thread Larry Colen
I've got a couple of Manfrotto ball heads, and a three axis head, a Manfrotto 
804RC2.  One nice thing about them all is that they all use the same quick 
release plate, of which I have something like half a dozen now, allowing me to 
just have them mounted on both bodies and a couple of my longer lenses.

For the most part, they work fine.  However, for particularly heavy lenses, or 
long exposures, they are not as rock solid steady as I'd like.  Also, if I 
adjust them using the bigma, I have to account for some inevitable droop.  
Likewise, I can never get quite as much angle above the horizon as I'd like 
with the three axis head.

It being my birthday in a few hours (Bong being in Manilla, it is already his, 
Happy Birthday Bong), I could rationalize spending a bit of money on a better 
tripod head.  I understand that there is effectively no limit to how much money 
that you can spend on a tripod head, but there are incremental improvements in 
quality.  Doing a quick search, it looks like the 804RC2 goes for about $65.  
Also that it seems to be called a pan-tilt head.

When I'm doing landscape work, I like the pan-tilt heads better than ball heads 
because I can adjust one angle, then fine tune another, and don't have to worry 
about losing all three adjustments when I want to fine tune one of them.  What 
I'd like is: 
a)  a pan-tilt head, 
b)  that is significantly steadier/sturdier than the 804RC2
c) With a much greater range of vertical swing
d) which, ideally, would take the same mount plate  (200PL-14 ?)

Using the same mount plate is negotiable, but it'd be a real drag to have to 
swap mount plates to use "the good tripod head".

Any suggestions on which head to look at?

How much would I need to pay to get much better performance?

How would I tell that I was getting something better, rather than just more 
expensive?  Load rating?  

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RE: September PUG is Up!!

2012-09-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Great gallery! Too many good ones to pick a favourite.

Cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Brian Walters 
Sent: September 5, 2012 9/5/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: September PUG is Up!!

G'day all

After a slow start, there was a rush of submissions to give us a grand  
total of 29 submissions.  And a great lot of photos they are, with  
quite a few variations on the theme as well.

As usual, you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery there)

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not  
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the  
gallery, let me know.

+

For October the theme is 'Doors'.

Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html


The main requirements are:

* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body  
or lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to  
ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line.
* Nominal closing date for submissions: 31 May.



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RE: Peso: My Yard

2012-09-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Beautiful shot. Great expression, really nice perspective and colours.

Love it!

cheers,
frank

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From: Steven Desjardins 
Sent: September 5, 2012 9/5/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Peso: My Yard

I didn't ask for a model release:

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PESO - Two on the Wharf

2012-09-05 Thread Marco Alpert
Looking at my email archive, it appears that it's been almost 2 1/2 years since 
last I posted here. But I seem to be back, at least for the moment.

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo07/peso21.html

Comments, as always, welcomed.

   -Marco

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OT - Sony NEX-7

2012-09-05 Thread Tom C
Well, I've had the NEX-7 for a little over a week.

You may remember earlier a post generated some well meant advisements
about accidentally starting video shooting. In fact there's complaints
all over the web about it.

Well I took the camera out. Put a lens on. Put in the battery. Put in
a memory card. Set date/time. Looked into the EVF (as opposed to
through). Pressed the shutter release.

Image captured.

No video.

It was natural to press the horizontal shutter release DOWN as one
would do on any SLR/DSLR of the last 45 years, and just as on any
Pentax.

If users are actuating the video button on the back of the camera then
they're not pressing down on the shutter release with their index
finger as much as they're pressing IN on a button, that's obviously
NOT where the shutter release is.

Hand size aside, it's obvious where the shutter release is. They're
either man handling it or their hands don't work right and when they
press down with their index finger they're pressing in with their
thumb equally or more.

I've taken several hundred shots now, and never did I accidentally
start shooting video, nor did I make a conscious effort not to.

It makes ergonomic sense to have the video start button where it is
because then with the hand holding the camera naturally as most would,
with the press of the index finger one can shoot a still, or with a
press of the thumb one can start a video. I don't see the issue.

I recall numerous camera reviews on other models that complain about
how HARD it is to start video recording.

When I'm driving I sometimes press the next track button on the
steering wheel as opposed to the volume control. The buttons are close
together and shaped the same yet clearly labeled. Is it Toyota's fault
when I'm not paying attention to what I'm doing and press the wrong
one?

All that aside I'm exchanging the NEX-7 for a new one. :-(((

It won't consistently render a review image. It's totally random,
sometimes showing the image, sometimes not. Shooting slowly and
deliberately with 5 seconds between shots, it'll not show an image 10+
times, then show one, and the next shot not.I tried the longshot of
changing memory cards and resetting the camera to factory default, but
the same issue continues.

When I asked a question regarding this on the NEX dpreview forum I got
a little beat up about wanting auto review on in the first place.
That's not the point. If the camera doesn't function to spec it's
defective. I even got called thick as a brick. :)

I don't view having auto review turned on all the time as being
neophyte behavior. On those occasions I take my photography seriously,
I use my digitals in much the same way I'd use a film camera,
carefully composing/exposing as opposed to rapid-firing or
snap-shooting, hoping for a good shot. So I take advantage of auto
review as it instantly let's me  review an image and adjust if
necessary, without the need to explicitly ask the camera to show me
the image. If it chews though batteries a little faster, that's why I
have multiples and a car charger.

The End

Tom C.

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Re: The last Photokina speculation thread on PDML before Photokina

2012-09-05 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 09:32:09PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
> 
> Wouldn't that depend on whether whatever Tanya is showing is worth
> looking at?

I'd trim that to just the last eight words ...


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Re: PESO x3: Thunderstorm

2012-09-05 Thread David Mann
On Sep 6, 2012, at 1:29 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:

> I'm fairly sure that dark frame subtraction can be turned off in the K10Ds 
> Custom menu - at least it can with my K200D which uses the same sensor.

OK I got off my arse and checked.  You're right, there's a "noise reduction" 
setting.

Next time I'll know to switch it off but I'm curious about how much of a 
difference it'll make to the noise level.  I might have a play at some stage, I 
might be able to just leave it switched off.

Cheers,
Dave


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Re: Mini-GESO: Golden Hour mammatus (4 photos)

2012-09-05 Thread David Mann
On Sep 6, 2012, at 12:33 AM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:

> In a fit of jealousy over Mark's shot of mammatus clouds during the golden 
> hour from GFM, I decided to spend every single night camped out in the yard 
> with my camera until I finally got some of my own. Well, I got them at about 
> 6:30 this morning.
> 
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157631419163014/
> 
> Granted, they lack the accompanying scenery of Mark's wonderful shot. And the 
> camping-out thing is a complete lie. Still, I'm just happy to have seen and 
> captured them.

Very nice.  That lighting really does enhance it.

Dave
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Nokia's image stabilization

2012-09-05 Thread Scott Loveless
Just in case you didn't know, all you need is a truck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pytmZV0Qs7s

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