PESOs: London Exhibition

[Chris Mitchell]

Bob W and I went to see Everything Was Moving: Photography from the
60s and 70s at the Barbican.
http://www.barbican.org.uk/artgallery/event-detail.asp?ID=13613

It was excellent, but huge - over 400 photographs from 12
photographers. Highlights for me were:

- Bruce Davidson's pictures from the Alabama freedom rides. Very
powerful and captures perfectly the divided community.
- William Eggleston (he who polarised PDML opinion in Chicago 2010). I
just love his realism and Bob and I commented on the influence he must
have had on the likes of Magnum man, Martin Parr
- Larry Burrows's pictures from Vietnam. I've seen them in newspapers,
but seeing the massive prints brings out their full impact.

If you're thinking of going, you'll have to be quick; it ends today
(Jan 13) sadly. But you'll get the bonus of seeing a steam train
running on the Underground at Barbican station to celebrate the 150th
anniversary.

A couple of PESOs shot from the hip to avoid the "no phtography in here" police:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Barbican_1/slides/DSCF0243.html
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Barbican_1/slides/DSCF0257.html

The attentive among you might see that they were taken on my new Fuji
X-Pro 1. More of that later when I've given it a proper workout.
Chris

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Re: Didn't buy a camera today

[DagT]

Den 13. jan. 2013 kl. 04:07 skrev Mark Roberts :

> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> 
>> IMO, a good hand-held light meter does a much better job of being a
>> light meter than any compact camera does.
> 
> Well, yeah. But it can't double as a camera when need be. :-)
> 

My light meter doubles as telephone :-)
I simple use an App for iPhone called "Lightmeter". I works fairly well.

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RE: PESOs: London Exhibition

[Bob W]

Chris,

everything in those pictures seems to be moving! Here's mine from the day,
taken with my phone:


That Fuji is a fantastic camera - very impressive indeed.

Thanks to Chris and family for putting up with me yesterday at such short
notice. I had earlier said I couldn't come because of a prior commitment.
However, when I turned up at my prior commitment I discovered I was a week
early! So that left the day free to see the exhibition, which is enormous.
Like Chris, I particularly enjoyed the shots of South Africa, and the
freedom rides. And Eggleston, one of the greats who changed the way we look
at the world.

B

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> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Chris Mitchell
> Sent: 13 January 2013 08:58
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> Subject: PESOs: London Exhibition
> 
> Bob W and I went to see Everything Was Moving: Photography from the 60s
> and 70s at the Barbican.
> http://www.barbican.org.uk/artgallery/event-detail.asp?ID=13613
> 
> It was excellent, but huge - over 400 photographs from 12
> photographers. Highlights for me were:
> 
> - Bruce Davidson's pictures from the Alabama freedom rides. Very
> powerful and captures perfectly the divided community.
> - William Eggleston (he who polarised PDML opinion in Chicago 2010). I
> just love his realism and Bob and I commented on the influence he must
> have had on the likes of Magnum man, Martin Parr
> - Larry Burrows's pictures from Vietnam. I've seen them in newspapers,
> but seeing the massive prints brings out their full impact.
> 
> If you're thinking of going, you'll have to be quick; it ends today
> (Jan 13) sadly. But you'll get the bonus of seeing a steam train
> running on the Underground at Barbican station to celebrate the 150th
> anniversary.
> 
> A couple of PESOs shot from the hip to avoid the "no phtography in
> here" police:
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Barbican_1/slides/DSCF0243.html
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Barbican_1/slides/DSCF0257.html
> 
> The attentive among you might see that they were taken on my new Fuji
> X-Pro 1. More of that later when I've given it a proper workout.
> Chris
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Re: Didn't buy a camera today

[Jens]

A used lightmeter is quite cheap these days. Get a Gossen Lunasix F, for 
instance. Or one of those electronic meters from Minolta. You might get one for 
perhaps 50 USD.
It's much better for the job. Anyway - I bought a K-01 as soon as the hit the 
markedplace last year. I was very disappointed - since I found out I couldn't 
live without an optical viewfinder. I soon  got a collapsable hood for the LCD, 
which helps a little in bright sunlight.

I still prefere using my K-5/K20D for most stuff, but for panoramas the K-01 is 
very nice, since it has the direct veiw turned on all the time. So I'm keeping 
it. The image quality is excellent - and I can still use all my fine Pentax 
lenses.

So, if you can live without the optical viewfinder - buy a K-01.

As for the lightmeter - I'd rather exchange the 67 for a 67II - they are not 
very expensive these days. The only problem is getting high quality scans - 
this is a MUST IMO, if you want to seriously compete with 16 MegaPixel digital 
images.

As I can't afford an Imacon (Hasselblad) scanner, I get my negs scanned in 
Germany. But I'm still having trouble getting good enough scans. Pro scans made 
in Denmark cost appr. 125 USD for each frame!!! If I had to make a living from 
photography, I'd get a 645D - or a Phase One camera. But I don't :-)

Regards
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On Jan 13, 2013 10:00 "DagT"  wrote:
> Den 13. jan. 2013 kl. 04:07 skrev Mark Roberts
> :
> > Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> > 
> >> IMO, a good hand-held light meter does a much better job of being
> >> a
> >> light meter than any compact camera does.
> > 
> > Well, yeah. But it can't double as a camera when need be. :-)
> > 
> 
> My light meter doubles as telephone :-)
> I simple use an App for iPhone called "Lightmeter". I works fairly
> well.
> 
> D yearstagT
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Re: 2012 #04 - From World Press Photo 2012 Exhibition

[Steve Cottrell]

On 12/1/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>It didn't even occur to me that he was doing anything but thinking about
>a photograph that he had just looked at.  

Yes but my point is this: is he actually looking at a photo on a wall,
or is he staring at nothing, his head merely positioned downwards? And
does it matter?

If you look at his left elbow, there is the slightest of overlaps with
the end of the wall. This puts him actually further away from the
camera, and in fact he is the other side of the wall, apparently looking
at a photo on his side. And of course he is thinking about it all, so I
guess the message of Boris's pic is of deep though in a photo gallery.

I like the juxtaposition between the man and the photo of the woman's
face, but the framing and the angle just aren't quite there for me. The
crop on the left is a tad loose. I'd concentrate more on the man and the
face pic if I could.

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Re: A logistics problem

[mike wilson]

On 12/01/2013 17:49, Paul Stenquist wrote:

The paper wants to go live with a photo and my article (which has been largely 
prewritten without actually seeing the car) within about a minute of the 
embargo being lifted.


As concise a summation of the ills of modern society as you are likely 
to see anywhere.


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Re: 2012 #04 - From World Press Photo 2012 Exhibition

[Steve Cottrell]

On 13/1/13, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Thanks, Cotty. I can probably argue and draw lines on the shot proving 
>mathematically that the angle at which his head is inclined is such that 
>he cannot possibly see the shoes unless it is the mirror that is hanging 
>on the wall in front of him. That that would be very smart ass and 
>ungrateful...

Yes, but Boris, you were there and you know exactly where the chap was
standing - as a viewer to the pic, I don't. When I first saw the photo,
I assumed the man was in deep though about something he had just seen,
his head angled down and staring at the floor that was apparently in
front of him, unobstructed by the wall which is apparently at his left.
It was only when I looked closer and saw his elbow was slightly obscured
by the wall's end that I realised he was actually further away from the
camera and therefore actually behind said wall and then obviously
studying a photo or perhaps reading a caption.

I'm sending you a slightly doctored version off list which, when viewed
objectively next to your original, shows two completely different photographs!

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Re: Didn't buy a camera today

[Steve Cottrell]

On 12/1/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I've had a few clients sending me checks lately (yay!) and had been
>toying with the idea of getting a new camera. I even considered one of
>the $319.00 K-01 close-outs from Amazon - it could serve as a "light
>meter" for my meterless Pentax 67 that would double as a camera if
>necessary. But I don't shoot with the 67 often enough to justify that
>and wouldn't use it on its own much. I may acquire a compact camera to
>serve that purpose later, though. (Anyone know if there are any good
>compacts that go below ISO 100?)
>
>So anyway, I bought an electric guitar instead.

Cool.

Mark, you *need* to buy the Fuji X20.

That is all.

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RE: 2012 #04 - From World Press Photo 2012 Exhibition

[Bob W]

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steve Cottrell
> 
> On 12/1/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >It didn't even occur to me that he was doing anything but thinking
> >about a photograph that he had just looked at.
> 
> Yes but my point is this: is he actually looking at a photo on a wall,
> or is he staring at nothing, his head merely positioned downwards? And
> does it matter?
> 
> If you look at his left elbow, there is the slightest of overlaps with
> the end of the wall. This puts him actually further away from the
> camera, and in fact he is the other side of the wall, apparently
> looking at a photo on his side. And of course he is thinking about it
> all, so I guess the message of Boris's pic is of deep though in a photo
> gallery.
> 
> I like the juxtaposition between the man and the photo of the woman's
> face, but the framing and the angle just aren't quite there for me. The
> crop on the left is a tad loose. I'd concentrate more on the man and
> the face pic if I could.

He's reading a caption.

B


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Re: 2012 #04 - From World Press Photo 2012 Exhibition

[Boris Liberman]

On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>
> I'm sending you a slightly doctored version off list which, when viewed
> objectively next to your original, shows two completely different photographs!

Point absolutely taken. Indeed a single picture is worth a thousand words...

Well, I will try to react faster and better next time. Obviously, you
realize this was a right now or absolutely nothing kind of moment...


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Re: A logistics problem

[Paul Stenquist]

I may experiment with eyefi sometime down the road, but definitely not while on 
an assignment.  I will tell Jeremy you said hi.

On Jan 12, 2013, at 11:36 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:

> If Jeremy Clarxon of Top Gear pops up, pass him regards ;-).
> 
> On a serious note though, I'd team up with Larry here - eyefi card should 
> probably make your life way simpler. Also, you could pre-set your camera with 
> white balance and other stuff and shoot RAW+JPG, then it may save you time 
> for RAW processing when you're on location.
> 
> On 1/12/2013 6:49 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Should be fun. If I get it right.
>> 
>> paul
> 
> 
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Re: PESO 2013 - 008 - GDG

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice "through the window shot," and you caught some interesting people
and postures.
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On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:52 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> Still sick, but getting a little better I think.
>
> Been working through some of the photos from my train trip at the end of Dec 
> 2012 again. This one caught my eye:
>
>   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8374798967/lightbox
>
> Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated.
>
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Re: A logistics problem

[Paul Stenquist]

Perhaps. But it's what all news organizations have to do to compete on the 24/7 
news cycle. You either play the game, or you throw in the towel. 
On Jan 13, 2013, at 5:25 AM, mike wilson  wrote:

> On 12/01/2013 17:49, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> The paper wants to go live with a photo and my article (which has been 
>> largely prewritten without actually seeing the car) within about a minute of 
>> the embargo being lifted.
> 
> As concise a summation of the ills of modern society as you are likely to see 
> anywhere.
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Re: PESOs: London Exhibition

[Daniel J. Matyola]

You sneaky devil!

I like the angle of the first image.  I don't know why, but it really
works for me.

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On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 3:58 AM, Chris Mitchell
 wrote:
> Bob W and I went to see Everything Was Moving: Photography from the
> 60s and 70s at the Barbican.
> http://www.barbican.org.uk/artgallery/event-detail.asp?ID=13613
>
> It was excellent, but huge - over 400 photographs from 12
> photographers. Highlights for me were:
>
> - Bruce Davidson's pictures from the Alabama freedom rides. Very
> powerful and captures perfectly the divided community.
> - William Eggleston (he who polarised PDML opinion in Chicago 2010). I
> just love his realism and Bob and I commented on the influence he must
> have had on the likes of Magnum man, Martin Parr
> - Larry Burrows's pictures from Vietnam. I've seen them in newspapers,
> but seeing the massive prints brings out their full impact.
>
> If you're thinking of going, you'll have to be quick; it ends today
> (Jan 13) sadly. But you'll get the bonus of seeing a steam train
> running on the Underground at Barbican station to celebrate the 150th
> anniversary.
>
> A couple of PESOs shot from the hip to avoid the "no phtography in here" 
> police:
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Barbican_1/slides/DSCF0243.html
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Barbican_1/slides/DSCF0257.html
>
> The attentive among you might see that they were taken on my new Fuji
> X-Pro 1. More of that later when I've given it a proper workout.
> Chris
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Re: 2012 #04 - From World Press Photo 2012 Exhibition

[Steve Cottrell]

On 13/1/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>He's reading a caption.

Yeah, he is. The captions are placed either left or right of each pic,
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Re: 2012 #04 - From World Press Photo 2012 Exhibition

[Steve Cottrell]

On 13/1/13, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:

>On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>>
>> I'm sending you a slightly doctored version off list which, when viewed
>> objectively next to your original, shows two completely different
>photographs!
>
>Point absolutely taken. Indeed a single picture is worth a thousand words...
>
>Well, I will try to react faster and better next time. Obviously, you
>realize this was a right now or absolutely nothing kind of moment...

I'm not getting at you Boris ;-)

I appreciate that it was one moment and that was it. I was just saying
that pics can be interpreted differently depending on what the viewer
sees - or *thinks* they see.

I thought I saw something I didn't.

Or maybe I did!!!

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Re: Didn't buy a camera today

[Mark Roberts]

Steve Cottrell wrote:

>On 12/1/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I've had a few clients sending me checks lately (yay!) and had been
>>toying with the idea of getting a new camera. I even considered one of
>>the $319.00 K-01 close-outs from Amazon - it could serve as a "light
>>meter" for my meterless Pentax 67 that would double as a camera if
>>necessary. But I don't shoot with the 67 often enough to justify that
>>and wouldn't use it on its own much. I may acquire a compact camera to
>>serve that purpose later, though. (Anyone know if there are any good
>>compacts that go below ISO 100?)
>>
>>So anyway, I bought an electric guitar instead.
>
>Cool.
>
>Mark, you *need* to buy the Fuji X20.

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Re: A logistics problem

[Steve Cottrell]

On 13/1/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I may experiment with eyefi sometime down the road, but definitely not
>while on an assignment.

Yep, experimenting live in the field is fraught with danger!

Paul, very interesting consideration if you ever find yourself needing
to edit a pic while out and about with no macbook laptop. Shoot the pic
in jpeg and using either an eyefi card or something like an Airstash
(q.v.) you can wifi the pic to your iphone and then use something like
Snapseed (which I find intuitive and fast) for editing before sending
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Re: Didn't buy a camera today

[Steve Cottrell]

On 13/1/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Think they'll take an electric guitar in trade?

Hmmm - what guitar ?

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Re: A logistics problem

[Mark Roberts]

Steve Cottrell wrote:

>On 13/1/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I may experiment with eyefi sometime down the road, but definitely not
>>while on an assignment.
>
>Yep, experimenting live in the field is fraught with danger!
>
>Paul, very interesting consideration if you ever find yourself needing
>to edit a pic while out and about with no macbook laptop. Shoot the pic
>in jpeg and using either an eyefi card or something like an Airstash
>(q.v.) you can wifi the pic to your iphone and then use something like
>Snapseed (which I find intuitive and fast) for editing before sending
>via 3G or wifi. Quite impressive!

When I was a young man, we used Polaroids and carrier pigeons...

 
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GESO - Peter and friends

[Derby Chang]

Loose and fun afternoon in the pub. My friend Monica, now living in LA, 
is only in Sydney for the weekend, but she's gotta sing. Fortunately for 
all of us, she can land a gig anytime she wants.


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Re: PESO: Foggy Coots

[Jack Davis]

Might not have made the drive for it, but like the mood.
Thanks for commenting, Marnie.

Jack

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Subject: Re: PESO: Foggy Coots

That turned out rather well, Jack. Good  save.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)

In a message dated 1/12/2013 1:22:56 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
jdavi...@yahoo.com writes:

Made the 20+ mile to  Gray Lodge again a couple days ago and found it 
foggy. After waiting for an hour  or so I decided to use one of their 
porta-potties and head for home.
Upon  returning to my car, I took a look around and discovered a peaceful 
scene I  thought I'd try.

Those little black roundish things in the water  are Coots or Mud Hens, if 
you prefer.\

C&C  welcome.

Jack

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Re: PESO: Foggy Coots

[Jack Davis]

LoL..Thanks, Paul.

Jack
 
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Subject: Re: PESO: Foggy Coots

I like it.  But from the title I was expecting a bunch of old guys 
sittin' on the front porch.

-p

On 1/12/2013 3:22 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>
> Made the 20+ mile to Gray Lodge again a couple days ago and found it foggy. 
> After waiting for an hour or so I decided to use one of their porta-potties 
> and head for home.
> Upon returning to my car, I took a look around and discovered a peaceful 
> scene I thought I'd try.
>
> Those little black roundish things in the water are Coots or Mud Hens, if you 
> prefer.\
>
> C&C welcome.
>
> Jack
>
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>
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PESO: Giglio

[Collin Brendemuehl]

I call it "Giglio" -- it is just out there blowing in the wind.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/8376687250/in/photostream/lightbox
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PESO - (Warning- cat pic!) Forgiven

[Steve Cottrell]

Minnie was subjected to a brutal assault by my feet yesterday as I
tripped over her carrying a basket of logs. No broken bones, and I think
she might just have forgiven me.



Fuji X10 large/fine jpeg, Provia setting. f/2.5 at 1/60th, ISO 640



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RE: PESO - (Warning- cat pic!) Forgiven

[Bob W]

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steve Cottrell
> 
> Minnie was subjected to a brutal assault by my feet yesterday as I
> tripped over her carrying a basket of logs. 

you shouldn't make cats carry logs - you'll upset Frank.

B

> No broken bones, and I
> think she might just have forgiven me.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: 2012 #04 - From World Press Photo 2012 Exhibition

[Ann Sanfedele]

On 1/13/2013 06:49, Bob W wrote:

From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steve Cottrell

On 12/1/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:


It didn't even occur to me that he was doing anything but thinking
about a photograph that he had just looked at.


Yes but my point is this: is he actually looking at a photo on a wall,
or is he staring at nothing, his head merely positioned downwards? And
does it matter?


He's reading a caption.

B


A agrees with B - at least, that's what it looks like to me.

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Re: Didn't buy a camera today

[Bruce Walker]

On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 4:00 AM, DagT  wrote:
>
> Den 13. jan. 2013 kl. 04:07 skrev Mark Roberts :
>
>> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>
>>> IMO, a good hand-held light meter does a much better job of being a
>>> light meter than any compact camera does.
>>
>> Well, yeah. But it can't double as a camera when need be. :-)
>
> My light meter doubles as telephone :-)
> I simple use an App for iPhone called "Lightmeter". I works fairly well.
>
> DagT

Now *that's* an interesting concept. Of course the iPhone is a
computer with a fancy light sensor attached. :-)

Sadly, AFAICT none of these apps works as a flash meter, and besides
using it with a film camera, that is the main reason for having a
light meter. It's my reason anyway. In fact, the iPhone lightmeter
apps cannot do:

- spot metering
- incident flash
- flash/ambient ratios
- flash triggering
- readings triggered by sync cable
- cine readings

Nor, unfortunately can the cheapie used flashes like Jens mentioned;
eg Gossen Lunasix F.

Still very happy I picked up a Polaris flash meter at a good price.
Does everything but cine.

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Re: A logistics problem

[Christine Aguila]

Great fun, Paul!  You'll ace the assignment for sure!  I wish I could be there 
with you to shoot the photo essay of you completing your assignment!  Is there 
a link we can book mark to watch for your posting tonight?  

Will be thinking of you!  Big cheers, Christine


On Jan 12, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> I have to cover the reveal of the seventh generation Corvette tomorrow night 
> for the NY Times. The paper wants to go live with a photo and my article 
> (which has been largely prewritten without actually seeing the car) within 
> about a minute of the embargo being lifted. Since the embargo will be lifted 
> only when the cover is pulled off the car, I'll have about 45 seconds to 
> shoot a photo, upload it to my laptop and send it to the mother ship. I've 
> practiced a bit today with my computer propped up on my knees and my camera 
> hanging from a neckstrap. Using the USB cord, which I can preinstall on the 
> computer, is faster than taking the card out of the camera. I was going to 
> shoot jpeg, but I experimented with both jpeg and RAW, because I anticipate 
> some awful highlights on the stage. It takes me about ten seconds longer to 
> do a quick RAW conversion, crushing the highlights just a bit and pulling up 
> shadows slightly. I think I'm going to do it. Even if I shoot jpeg, I'll 
> probably want to tweak it, and I'm much more accustomed to working with RAW. 
> 
> BTW, after I upload the photo, I'll have to file amended copy, but that's a 
> problem for another venue. 
> 
> General Motors has done a good job of keeping the lid on the new Corvette. 
> There are only renderings on the web and spy photos of test-track cars draped 
> in camouflage. And the automaker refuses to release any photos until after 
> the reveal. The press conference where that will happen is taking place in an 
> industrial building far from downtown Detroit. It's actually in a pretty 
> scary neighborhood, well off the beaten path. I assume that's part of the 
> secrecy plan. The surrounding blocks will be undoubtedly be crawling with 
> cops and private security. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some 
> helicopters overhead as well.
> 
> Should be fun. If I get it right.
> 
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Tethered shooting problems

[Jens]

Having had problems instatling and getting Pentax Camera Utility 4 + Pentax 
Remote Assistant to work properlymy pro. (As I don't have the original PCU4 CD 
yet, this might be one reason for  my problems). I have upgraded the K20D 
firmware properly. But I cant find the original USB cord for the K20D, so I'm 
using the one from my K-5 - should this cause any problems? Aren't the cords 
(K-5, K20D, K-01) compatible?


I have read, that I need to upgrade Windows 7 as well as download software to 
allow Windows 7  to work in "XP-mode", in order to make PDCU+PRA work. Is this 
true?

Then I downloaded the third-party software PK_tether. It worked right away. Is 
this dangerous to use - vould i tharm my camera? 

Is there a tethered method, thheat will actually show the viewfinder image on 
the computerscreen (with Pentax cameras, naturally).

I am using K20D for this purpose.

I found that PK tether works differently accordiing to wher I store the program.
Where suld I store it. ive 

I'd really appreciate any help you might offer as well as experience you ant to 
share :-)

Thanks in advanace.
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Re: A logistics problem

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Cotty. I'll try that. I'm trying to find an easy way to go from mac to 
iPhone without wifi. With my Android phone I could connect it via USB and 
access folders. I haven't been able to do that with the iPHone. Annoying.

Paul
On Jan 13, 2013, at 8:01 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> On 13/1/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> I may experiment with eyefi sometime down the road, but definitely not
>> while on an assignment.
> 
> Yep, experimenting live in the field is fraught with danger!
> 
> Paul, very interesting consideration if you ever find yourself needing
> to edit a pic while out and about with no macbook laptop. Shoot the pic
> in jpeg and using either an eyefi card or something like an Airstash
> (q.v.) you can wifi the pic to your iphone and then use something like
> Snapseed (which I find intuitive and fast) for editing before sending
> via 3G or wifi. Quite impressive!
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Re: A logistics problem

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Christine. It will go live here first, hopefully at 7:01 pm:
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com
Then soon after, if all goes according to plan, it will appear here:
http://www.nytimes.com/pages/automobiles/index.html

On Jan 13, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Christine Aguila  wrote:

> Great fun, Paul!  You'll ace the assignment for sure!  I wish I could be 
> there with you to shoot the photo essay of you completing your assignment!  
> Is there a link we can book mark to watch for your posting tonight?  
> 
> Will be thinking of you!  Big cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> On Jan 12, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
>> I have to cover the reveal of the seventh generation Corvette tomorrow night 
>> for the NY Times. The paper wants to go live with a photo and my article 
>> (which has been largely prewritten without actually seeing the car) within 
>> about a minute of the embargo being lifted. Since the embargo will be lifted 
>> only when the cover is pulled off the car, I'll have about 45 seconds to 
>> shoot a photo, upload it to my laptop and send it to the mother ship. I've 
>> practiced a bit today with my computer propped up on my knees and my camera 
>> hanging from a neckstrap. Using the USB cord, which I can preinstall on the 
>> computer, is faster than taking the card out of the camera. I was going to 
>> shoot jpeg, but I experimented with both jpeg and RAW, because I anticipate 
>> some awful highlights on the stage. It takes me about ten seconds longer to 
>> do a quick RAW conversion, crushing the highlights just a bit and pulling up 
>> shadows slightly. I think I'm going to do it. Even if I shoot jpeg, I'll 
>> probably want to tweak it, and I'm much more accustomed to working with RAW. 
>> 
>> BTW, after I upload the photo, I'll have to file amended copy, but that's a 
>> problem for another venue. 
>> 
>> General Motors has done a good job of keeping the lid on the new Corvette. 
>> There are only renderings on the web and spy photos of test-track cars 
>> draped in camouflage. And the automaker refuses to release any photos until 
>> after the reveal. The press conference where that will happen is taking 
>> place in an industrial building far from downtown Detroit. It's actually in 
>> a pretty scary neighborhood, well off the beaten path. I assume that's part 
>> of the secrecy plan. The surrounding blocks will be undoubtedly be crawling 
>> with cops and private security. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some 
>> helicopters overhead as well.
>> 
>> Should be fun. If I get it right.
>> 
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Re: A logistics problem

[Walt]

It'll never happen, but I sure would love to see some styling cues taken 
from the '63 -- one of the most beautiful cars ever devised by man.


I won't be able to see it right away, but I'll be sure to check it out 
as soon as I get home from work tonight.


Hope all goes smoothly!

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On 1/12/2013 10:49 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I have to cover the reveal of the seventh generation Corvette tomorrow night 
for the NY Times. The paper wants to go live with a photo and my article (which 
has been largely prewritten without actually seeing the car) within about a 
minute of the embargo being lifted. Since the embargo will be lifted only when 
the cover is pulled off the car, I'll have about 45 seconds to shoot a photo, 
upload it to my laptop and send it to the mother ship. I've practiced a bit 
today with my computer propped up on my knees and my camera hanging from a 
neckstrap. Using the USB cord, which I can preinstall on the computer, is 
faster than taking the card out of the camera. I was going to shoot jpeg, but I 
experimented with both jpeg and RAW, because I anticipate some awful highlights 
on the stage. It takes me about ten seconds longer to do a quick RAW 
conversion, crushing the highlights just a bit and pulling up shadows slightly. 
I think I'm going to do it. Even if I shoot jpeg, I'll probably want to tweak 
it, and I'm much more accustomed to working with RAW.

BTW, after I upload the photo, I'll have to file amended copy, but that's a 
problem for another venue.

General Motors has done a good job of keeping the lid on the new Corvette. 
There are only renderings on the web and spy photos of test-track cars draped 
in camouflage. And the automaker refuses to release any photos until after the 
reveal. The press conference where that will happen is taking place in an 
industrial building far from downtown Detroit. It's actually in a pretty scary 
neighborhood, well off the beaten path. I assume that's part of the secrecy 
plan. The surrounding blocks will be undoubtedly be crawling with cops and 
private security. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some helicopters 
overhead as well.

Should be fun. If I get it right.

paul




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Re: A logistics problem

[Steve Cottrell]

On 13/1/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Thanks Cotty. I'll try that. I'm trying to find an easy way to go from
>mac to iPhone without wifi. With my Android phone I could connect it via
>USB and access folders. I haven't been able to do that with the iPHone.
>Annoying.

You mean sending pics to the iphone from the mac? Direct in the house,
or anywhere?

All the pics I want on my iphone I handle manually.

EG: I created a folder called 'iPhone Pics' and I keep it tucked away,
and have it so it always appears on the left sidebar in any open window.
Then it's easy to access quickly.

Then, with the iphone attached via USB cable, I set the default  'sync
photos from' folder to my 'iPhone Pics'.

Incidentally you can create folders within that folder, and so I have
many folders separating subjects like one for landscapes, one for
portraits etc.

Then it's just a case of dropping jpegs into those folders straight on
my mac desktop and syncing the iPhone.

A few notes: I only ever sync locally to my mac, I don't use iCloud.
Also, the folder and pics in those folders managed via the mac desktop
can't be edited while on the iPhone. EG, if you want to delete a pic,
you do it on the Mac, and then sync the phone.

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Re: A logistics problem

[Paul Stenquist]

On Jan 13, 2013, at 11:59 AM, "Steve Cottrell"  wrote:

> 
> Then, with the iphone attached via USB cable, I set the default  'sync
> photos from' folder to my 'iPhone Pics'.
> 

How do you do that? Via a menu on the Mac?
Sorry for being dense. But I'm new to iPHone.


> Incidentally you can create folders within that folder, and so I have
> many folders separating subjects like one for landscapes, one for
> portraits etc.
> 
> Then it's just a case of dropping jpegs into those folders straight on
> my mac desktop and syncing the iPhone.
> 
> A few notes: I only ever sync locally to my mac, I don't use iCloud.
> Also, the folder and pics in those folders managed via the mac desktop
> can't be edited while on the iPhone. EG, if you want to delete a pic,
> you do it on the Mac, and then sync the phone.
> 
> HTH
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Re: A logistics problem

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks!  Just bookmarked both links!  Cheers, Christine


On Jan 13, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> Thanks Christine. It will go live here first, hopefully at 7:01 pm:
> http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com
> Then soon after, if all goes according to plan, it will appear here:
> http://www.nytimes.com/pages/automobiles/index.html
> 
> On Jan 13, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
>> Great fun, Paul!  You'll ace the assignment for sure!  I wish I could be 
>> there with you to shoot the photo essay of you completing your assignment!  
>> Is there a link we can book mark to watch for your posting tonight?  
>> 
>> Will be thinking of you!  Big cheers, Christine
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 12, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>>> I have to cover the reveal of the seventh generation Corvette tomorrow 
>>> night for the NY Times. The paper wants to go live with a photo and my 
>>> article (which has been largely prewritten without actually seeing the car) 
>>> within about a minute of the embargo being lifted. Since the embargo will 
>>> be lifted only when the cover is pulled off the car, I'll have about 45 
>>> seconds to shoot a photo, upload it to my laptop and send it to the mother 
>>> ship. I've practiced a bit today with my computer propped up on my knees 
>>> and my camera hanging from a neckstrap. Using the USB cord, which I can 
>>> preinstall on the computer, is faster than taking the card out of the 
>>> camera. I was going to shoot jpeg, but I experimented with both jpeg and 
>>> RAW, because I anticipate some awful highlights on the stage. It takes me 
>>> about ten seconds longer to do a quick RAW conversion, crushing the 
>>> highlights just a bit and pulling up shadows slightly. I think I'm going to 
>>> do it. Even if I shoot jpeg, I'll probably want to tweak it, and I'm much 
>>> more accustomed to working with RAW. 
>>> 
>>> BTW, after I upload the photo, I'll have to file amended copy, but that's a 
>>> problem for another venue. 
>>> 
>>> General Motors has done a good job of keeping the lid on the new Corvette. 
>>> There are only renderings on the web and spy photos of test-track cars 
>>> draped in camouflage. And the automaker refuses to release any photos until 
>>> after the reveal. The press conference where that will happen is taking 
>>> place in an industrial building far from downtown Detroit. It's actually in 
>>> a pretty scary neighborhood, well off the beaten path. I assume that's part 
>>> of the secrecy plan. The surrounding blocks will be undoubtedly be crawling 
>>> with cops and private security. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some 
>>> helicopters overhead as well.
>>> 
>>> Should be fun. If I get it right.
>>> 
>>> paul
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Re: A logistics problem

[Stan Halpin]

When your iPhone is attached to Mac and iTunes is on, click on the iPhone icon 
in the lefthand column within iTunes. Note the tabs along the top of the 
display window. Under photos tab, identify which (if any) photo folders you 
want to be synched with the phone. Work your way through the tabs to find where 
to turn on/off music synching, turn off autosynch-when-phone-is-connected, etc.

stan

On Jan 13, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> 
> On Jan 13, 2013, at 11:59 AM, "Steve Cottrell"  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Then, with the iphone attached via USB cable, I set the default  'sync
>> photos from' folder to my 'iPhone Pics'.
>> 
> 
> How do you do that? Via a menu on the Mac?
> Sorry for being dense. But I'm new to iPHone.
> 
> 
>> Incidentally you can create folders within that folder, and so I have
>> many folders separating subjects like one for landscapes, one for
>> portraits etc.
>> 
>> Then it's just a case of dropping jpegs into those folders straight on
>> my mac desktop and syncing the iPhone.
>> 
>> A few notes: I only ever sync locally to my mac, I don't use iCloud.
>> Also, the folder and pics in those folders managed via the mac desktop
>> can't be edited while on the iPhone. EG, if you want to delete a pic,
>> you do it on the Mac, and then sync the phone.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
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>> 
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>> Cotty
>> 
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Re: A logistics problem

[Steve Cottrell]

On 13/1/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

>How do you do that? Via a menu on the Mac?
>Sorry for being dense. But I'm new to iPHone.

I actually missed out some info, so I'll repost the previous info,
amended, and more basic.

Start on your Mac desktop. Create a new folder (in the Finder, File>New
Folder) OR if you already have a folder designated by iTunes as your
folder that iTunes syncs photos from, use that if you like. As long as
you know what folder is the folder iTunes uses to sync photos to/from
with your iPhone, and where it is on your Mac, then you can do the following:


On my Mac, (I run 10.6.8) I created a folder called 'iPhone Pics' and I
keep it [anywhere - on the desktop if you like].

I keep it out of the way in my home folder. But to make it easily
accessible, I dragged the icon of my iPhone Pics folder into a sidebar
of an open window. (To organise the sidebar better, in the Finder go to
Finder>Preferences and see the 'sidebar' button to tidy up). This way,
every time I open a new window, my iPhone Pics folder is right there on
the left in the sidebar. I click once on that and then I can see the
contents of the iPhone Pics folder, and add to it or delete things.

To tell iTunes that I wanted the 'iPhone Pics' folder to be the default
folder so that every time I sync my iPhone with my Mac, it uses 'iPhone
Pics as the one single folder - the master pics folder, if you like -
you simply have iTunes open with the iPhone plugged up by USB, and in
the bar on the left of the iTunes window, select 'iPhone', and then see
the tabs on the right, click on 'photos'. The first option is for
selecting a folder to sync photos with. I navigated to my iPhone Pics
folder, and now that is set as the default folder for syncing all photos
on my iPhone.

Incidentally you can create folders within that folder, and so I have
many folders separating subjects like one for landscapes, one for
portraits etc.

Then it's just a case of dropping jpegs into those folders straight on
my mac desktop and syncing the iPhone.

A few notes: I only ever sync locally to my mac, I don't use iCloud.
Also, the folder and pics in those folders managed via the mac desktop
can't be edited while on the iPhone. EG, if you want to delete a pic,
you do it on the Mac, and then sync the phone.

Hope this makes sense.




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Re: Tethered shooting problems

[P. J. Alling]

I think the cords are incidental from the *ist-Ds to the K--5xxx.

Sorry I can't help you on the compatibility issue between Remote 
assistant and the OS but I can't help but expect that there will be 
problems. Pentax pretty much dropped support for Remote Assistant after 
the K-20D was discontinued. There is no provision to display live view 
over the USB tether, I thought that was BS that Pentax wouldn't match 
the features that other manufactures included, but I guess their 
philosophy is that they build field cameras not studio cameras. Why 
supply functionality that few will use that will just add to the cost of 
the product.


I don't think PK_tether will harm you camera, I'd worry that some of the 
commands won't work correctly.


I've been using PDCU4 for several years now and I don't think that 
Remote Assistant properly integrates with any version after 3.X. I''m 
also pretty sure that Remote Assistant 3.x doesn't officially support 
the K-7 or the K-5 cameras. It may work with them much as Camera 
Assistant 1.0 seemed to operated the entire *ist-D[x] family even 
thought it only officially supported the *ist-D.


On 1/13/2013 11:15 AM, Jens wrote:

Having had problems instatling and getting Pentax Camera Utility 4 + Pentax 
Remote Assistant to work properlymy pro. (As I don't have the original PCU4 CD 
yet, this might be one reason for  my problems). I have upgraded the K20D 
firmware properly. But I cant find the original USB cord for the K20D, so I'm 
using the one from my K-5 - should this cause any problems? Aren't the cords 
(K-5, K20D, K-01) compatible?


I have read, that I need to upgrade Windows 7 as well as download software to allow 
Windows 7  to work in "XP-mode", in order to make PDCU+PRA work. Is this true?

Then I downloaded the third-party software PK_tether. It worked right away. Is 
this dangerous to use - vould i tharm my camera?

Is there a tethered method, thheat will actually show the viewfinder image on 
the computerscreen (with Pentax cameras, naturally).

I am using K20D for this purpose.

I found that PK tether works differently accordiing to wher I store the program.
Where suld I store it. ive

I'd really appreciate any help you might offer as well as experience you ant to 
share :-)

Thanks in advanace.
Jens, Denmark



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PESO - Still Smiling (bike messenger content)

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

I showed a photo of Scottie about a month ago. He was smiling in that photo. 
He's still smiling:

 http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/01/still-smiling.html?m=1

He's pretty much always smiling.   ;-)

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

Cheers,
frank 

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Re: PESO - I Don't Believe in Unicorns!

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Thanks Marnie, Dave and everyone else who looked!

cheers,
frank

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From: eactiv...@aol.com
Sent: January 12, 2013 1/12/13
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - I Don't Believe in Unicorns!

Nice one, like the expressions.

Marnie  aka Doe :-)

In a message dated 1/11/2013 6:43:35 P.M. Pacific Standard  Time, 
knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
A bit of fun at a masquerade party at  Shannen's bike shop (that's Shannen 
on the left; he hadn't got his costume on  yet):

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/01/i-dont-believe-in-unicorns.html?m=
1

Hope  you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

Cheers,
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RE: PESO - (Warning- cat pic!) Forgiven

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Beautiful cat, beautiful light, great expression, wonderful photo!

cheers,
frank

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From: Steve Cottrell 
Sent: January 13, 2013 1/13/13
To: pentax list 
Subject: PESO - (Warning- cat pic!) Forgiven

Minnie was subjected to a brutal assault by my feet yesterday as I
tripped over her carrying a basket of logs. No broken bones, and I think
she might just have forgiven me.



Fuji X10 large/fine jpeg, Provia setting. f/2.5 at 1/60th, ISO 640



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RE: GESO - Peter and friends

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Lotsa smiles, great set. 

Looks like a fun afternoon. There's nothing like live music!

cheers,
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From: Derby Chang 
Sent: January 13, 2013 1/13/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: GESO - Peter and friends


Loose and fun afternoon in the pub. My friend Monica, now living in LA, 
is only in Sydney for the weekend, but she's gotta sing. Fortunately for 
all of us, she can land a gig anytime she wants.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/01/peter/index.html

DA16-50 still a happy chappy, even though I don't think I've used it for 
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RE: PESO: Penn Station

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The cloudy reflections make it seem very dreamlike. Cool shot!

cheers,
frank

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From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: January 13, 2013 1/13/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO: Penn Station

Through the window, as my train was pulling out:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16718657
Comments and criticisms always welcome.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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Re: A logistics problem

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks much. It makes perfect sense.

Paul via phone

On Jan 13, 2013, at 12:39 PM, "Steve Cottrell"  wrote:

> On 13/1/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> How do you do that? Via a menu on the Mac?
>> Sorry for being dense. But I'm new to iPHone.
> 
> I actually missed out some info, so I'll repost the previous info,
> amended, and more basic.
> 
> Start on your Mac desktop. Create a new folder (in the Finder, File>New
> Folder) OR if you already have a folder designated by iTunes as your
> folder that iTunes syncs photos from, use that if you like. As long as
> you know what folder is the folder iTunes uses to sync photos to/from
> with your iPhone, and where it is on your Mac, then you can do the following:
> 
> 
> On my Mac, (I run 10.6.8) I created a folder called 'iPhone Pics' and I
> keep it [anywhere - on the desktop if you like].
> 
> I keep it out of the way in my home folder. But to make it easily
> accessible, I dragged the icon of my iPhone Pics folder into a sidebar
> of an open window. (To organise the sidebar better, in the Finder go to
> Finder>Preferences and see the 'sidebar' button to tidy up). This way,
> every time I open a new window, my iPhone Pics folder is right there on
> the left in the sidebar. I click once on that and then I can see the
> contents of the iPhone Pics folder, and add to it or delete things.
> 
> To tell iTunes that I wanted the 'iPhone Pics' folder to be the default
> folder so that every time I sync my iPhone with my Mac, it uses 'iPhone
> Pics as the one single folder - the master pics folder, if you like -
> you simply have iTunes open with the iPhone plugged up by USB, and in
> the bar on the left of the iTunes window, select 'iPhone', and then see
> the tabs on the right, click on 'photos'. The first option is for
> selecting a folder to sync photos with. I navigated to my iPhone Pics
> folder, and now that is set as the default folder for syncing all photos
> on my iPhone.
> 
> Incidentally you can create folders within that folder, and so I have
> many folders separating subjects like one for landscapes, one for
> portraits etc.
> 
> Then it's just a case of dropping jpegs into those folders straight on
> my mac desktop and syncing the iPhone.
> 
> A few notes: I only ever sync locally to my mac, I don't use iCloud.
> Also, the folder and pics in those folders managed via the mac desktop
> can't be edited while on the iPhone. EG, if you want to delete a pic,
> you do it on the Mac, and then sync the phone.
> 
> Hope this makes sense.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Cheers,
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> 
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Re: PESOs: London Exhibition

[Chris Mitchell]

On 13 January 2013 12:43, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> You sneaky devil!
>
> I like the angle of the first image.  I don't know why, but it really
> works for me.
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

Thanks Dan. That style of shooting is hit and miss (more miss than
hit), and you can't take too many for fear of getting caught. It's
good when the occasional one works though.

Chris

> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 3:58 AM, Chris Mitchell
>  wrote:
>> Bob W and I went to see Everything Was Moving: Photography from the
>> 60s and 70s at the Barbican.
>> http://www.barbican.org.uk/artgallery/event-detail.asp?ID=13613
>>
>> It was excellent, but huge - over 400 photographs from 12
>> photographers. Highlights for me were:
>>
>> - Bruce Davidson's pictures from the Alabama freedom rides. Very
>> powerful and captures perfectly the divided community.
>> - William Eggleston (he who polarised PDML opinion in Chicago 2010). I
>> just love his realism and Bob and I commented on the influence he must
>> have had on the likes of Magnum man, Martin Parr
>> - Larry Burrows's pictures from Vietnam. I've seen them in newspapers,
>> but seeing the massive prints brings out their full impact.
>>
>> If you're thinking of going, you'll have to be quick; it ends today
>> (Jan 13) sadly. But you'll get the bonus of seeing a steam train
>> running on the Underground at Barbican station to celebrate the 150th
>> anniversary.
>>
>> A couple of PESOs shot from the hip to avoid the "no phtography in here" 
>> police:
>> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Barbican_1/slides/DSCF0243.html
>> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Barbican_1/slides/DSCF0257.html
>>
>> The attentive among you might see that they were taken on my new Fuji
>> X-Pro 1. More of that later when I've given it a proper workout.
>> Chris
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RE: PESOs: London Exhibition

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Sounds like an absolutely amazing exhibit. The Davidson and Burrows photos must 
have been moving. I've not seen either big and on a wall.

Cool photos by you. 

X-Pro 1, eh? I hate you...

;-)

cheers,
frank 

--- Original Message ---

From: Chris Mitchell 
Sent: January 13, 2013 1/13/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESOs: London Exhibition

Bob W and I went to see Everything Was Moving: Photography from the
60s and 70s at the Barbican.
http://www.barbican.org.uk/artgallery/event-detail.asp?ID=13613

It was excellent, but huge - over 400 photographs from 12
photographers. Highlights for me were:

- Bruce Davidson's pictures from the Alabama freedom rides. Very
powerful and captures perfectly the divided community.
- William Eggleston (he who polarised PDML opinion in Chicago 2010). I
just love his realism and Bob and I commented on the influence he must
have had on the likes of Magnum man, Martin Parr
- Larry Burrows's pictures from Vietnam. I've seen them in newspapers,
but seeing the massive prints brings out their full impact.

If you're thinking of going, you'll have to be quick; it ends today
(Jan 13) sadly. But you'll get the bonus of seeing a steam train
running on the Underground at Barbican station to celebrate the 150th
anniversary.

A couple of PESOs shot from the hip to avoid the "no phtography in here" police:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Barbican_1/slides/DSCF0243.html
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Barbican_1/slides/DSCF0257.html

The attentive among you might see that they were taken on my new Fuji
X-Pro 1. More of that later when I've given it a proper workout.
Chris

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RE: 2012 #04 - From World Press Photo 2012 Exhibition

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I think it's a great photo. Kudos to Galia for the b&w idea - it so works!

Love that big portrait "looking away" from the actual human subject.

cheers,
frank

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From: Boris Liberman 
Sent: January 12, 2013 1/12/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: 2012 #04 - From World Press Photo 2012 Exhibition

Hi!

We paid a visit to one of the local museums where World Press Photo 2012 
was on display...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2013/01/2013-04-from-world-press-photo-2012.html

Galia suggested to turn this picture to B&W... And we talked a bit of 
the pictures that we saw... Almost no reason was found to smile or be 
happy in any way...

Your honest and brutal comments will as usual be appreciated.

Boris



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RE: PESO - (Warning- cat pic!) Forgiven

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

I'm against the exploitation of all animals. Moreso Cotty's cat than Cotty.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Bob W 
Sent: January 13, 2013 1/13/13
To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
Subject: RE: PESO - (Warning- cat pic!) Forgiven

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steve Cottrell
> 
> Minnie was subjected to a brutal assault by my feet yesterday as I
> tripped over her carrying a basket of logs. 

you shouldn't make cats carry logs - you'll upset Frank.

B

> No broken bones, and I
> think she might just have forgiven me.
> 
> 
> 
> Fuji X10 large/fine jpeg, Provia setting. f/2.5 at 1/60th, ISO 640
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Re: Woo-Hoo!

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Wasn't on list earlier in the week so I missed the good news.

Congrats! 

The photo is certainly worthy of the honour.

cheers,
frank

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From: Rick Womer 
Sent: January 12, 2013 1/12/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: Woo-Hoo!

This is some of the most impressive thread drift I've seen in a long time.
 
Rick


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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Woo-Hoo!

He managed to get the sale done just under the wire of the tax hike, too.

-- Walt

On 1/10/2013 11:13 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
> He's got to pay for heating his compound somehow.
> 
> On 1/10/2013 12:00 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>> Bob W.,
>> Al Gore just got $500 million for selling his cable network to El Jazeera.
>> (Not joking here either.  Al is newly rich!)
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Bob W  wrote:
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan
 
 Bob W.,
 I think you should call or email Al Gore.
 You know he invented the internet.
 Tell him it's broken and he should fix it.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
>>> I've been emailing him for years, sometimes 10 - 20 times a day. I cant
>>> understand why he hasn't replied yet - why would anyone not want to park
>>> $500,000,000 (FIVE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS) in their bank account for a few
>>> weeks from the will of my uncle, President Supreme and Royal Elected Emperor
>>> of Azania who was deposed recently in a coup and executed by traitorous
>>> Marxist? His share will be 50% before deduction of adminstration fee, but
>>> first I need his bank account details and a small deposit to release the
>>> cash to his account.
>>> 
>>> B
>>> 
 On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:53 PM, David Mann  wrote:
> On Jan 10, 2013, at 5:30 AM, Don Guthrie 
 wrote:
>> Bob I am dismayed you have this problem, these things can be very
 vexing. Someday the internet will be ready for public use.
>> I have not had the problem; it pops up for me and without any Ad.
 Have you tried another browser? Have you cleared your cache and
 history? Has your internet provider blocked the site? You could maybe
 try another DNS like Google. Good luck.
> I often have problems with photo.net where the ad server screws up
 and stops the page from loading.  I suspect there's a regional aspect
 to it as ad providers try to be clever with their targeting, so it'll
 seem inconsistent among different groups of people.
> But that's no excuse for photo.net to be so poorly implemented that
 an ad provided by a third party can stop the site from even
 functioning.
> Cheers,
> Dave
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X-Pro 1, eh?

[William Robb]

I almost think I am in the market for a small but good quality digital 
camera, and am really attracted to the Fuji cameras right now.

I know a few here are using various models.
Here is my criteria:
Must have an optica viewfinder (a hybrid is OK, as long as there is an 
optical option).
Interchangable lenses would be nice, in which case a good selection of 
primes would be a requirement, though if it is a fixed lens, it would need 
to be a medium wide to medium telephoto zoom.

Obviously, it must shoot in some sort of raw format.
Video not important, but if it's there, fine.
Good high ISO capability. The K5 has spoiled me for being able to shoot high 
ISO, and there is no way I want to go back to being afraid to shoot above 
ISO 400.


Thanks for any advice.

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Re: PESO: Foggy Coots

[Jack Davis]

Thanks much, Frank!

Jack
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Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: PESO: Foggy Coots

The mood is perfect.

Beautiful photo!

cheers,
frank

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From: Jack Davis 
Sent: January 12, 2013 1/12/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO: Foggy Coots

 
Made the 20+ mile to Gray Lodge again a couple days ago and found it foggy. 
After waiting for an hour or so I decided to use one of their porta-potties and 
head for home.
Upon returning to my car, I took a look around and discovered a peaceful scene 
I thought I'd try.
 
Those little black roundish things in the water are Coots or Mud Hens, if you 
prefer.\
 
C&C welcome.
 
Jack
 
http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=673
 
K20D(back up), DA 16~45

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Re: PESO - (Warning- cat pic!) Forgiven

[Steve Cottrell]

On 13/1/13, knarftheria...@gmail.com, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I'm against the exploitation of all animals. Moreso Cotty's cat than Cotty.

I wouldn't have it any other way.

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Re: PESOs: London Exhibition

[Steve Cottrell]

On 13/1/13, knarftheria...@gmail.com, discombobulated, unleashed:

>X-Pro 1, eh? I hate you...

Frank, you *need* to get an X20, it is made for you.

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Re: X-Pro 1, eh?

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:31 PM, William Robb
 wrote:
 The K5 has spoiled me for being able to shoot high
> ISO, and there is no way I want to go back to being afraid to shoot above
> ISO 400.

No need to sell you my old Nikon's then:-)

Dave
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> William Robb
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Re: X-Pro 1, eh?

[Steve Cottrell]

On 13/1/13, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I almost think I am in the market for a small but good quality digital 
>camera, and am really attracted to the Fuji cameras right now.
>I know a few here are using various models.
>Here is my criteria:
>Must have an optica viewfinder (a hybrid is OK, as long as there is an 
>optical option).
>Interchangable lenses would be nice, in which case a good selection of 
>primes would be a requirement, though if it is a fixed lens, it would need 
>to be a medium wide to medium telephoto zoom.
>Obviously, it must shoot in some sort of raw format.
>Video not important, but if it's there, fine.
>Good high ISO capability. The K5 has spoiled me for being able to shoot high 
>ISO, and there is no way I want to go back to being afraid to shoot above 
>ISO 400.
>
>Thanks for any advice.

Without a doubt the X-Pro 1 sounds like it fits the bill. I have the
Baby X10 the build quality and pictures out of it are amazingly good.
The X20 is supposed to be streets ahead because of a new sensor, and
even has optical viewfinder with info overlay.

I don't want interchangeable lenses anymore, just don't do that kind of
shooting. At some point I will be getting an X100s without a doubt. I
may even sell the X10 and get an X20 - the 2 cameras together will
satisfy my picture taking needs.

My biggest question is why I am not considering anything from Pentax :-(

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Re: Tethered shooting problems

[Jens]

Heller"Why supply functionality that few will use that will just add to the 
cost of 
the product."
Very true, PJ.

Thanks for the input P.J.

Pentax seems to be developing ONE studio camera, though - the 645D.
I think the RAW converter companies (Lightroom, Phase One) could very well make 
tethering software and tool for third party brands (not just Phase One, Leaf) 
of cameras.
I am a Capture One 7 Pro user, so that would be very nice.

My next try will be to try to install Pentax Remote Assistant on an XP computer.
And see how it turns out:-).

Meanwhile I'll be using PK-tether :-)
 Regards
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On Jan 13, 2013 18:42 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:
> I think the cords are incidental from the *ist-Ds to the K--5xxx.
> Sorry I can't help you on the compatibility issue between Remote 
> assistant and the OS but I can't help but expect that there will be 
> problems. Pentax pretty much dropped support for Remote Assistant
> after 
> the K-20D was discontinued. There is no provision to display live view
> over the USB tether, I thought that was BS that Pentax wouldn't match
> the features that other manufactures included, but I guess their 
> philosophy is that they build field cameras not studio cameras. Why 
> supply functionality that few will use that will just add to the cost
> of 
> the product.
> 
> I don't think PK_tether will harm you camera, I'd worry that some of
> the 
> commands won't work correctly.
> 
> I've been using PDCU4 for several years now and I don't think that 
> Remote Assistant properly integrates with any version after 3.X. I''m
> also pretty sure that Remote Assistant 3.x doesn't officially support
> the K-7 or the K-5 cameras. It may work with them much as Camera 
> Assistant 1.0 seemed to operated the entire *ist-D[x] family even 
> thought it only officially supported the *ist-D.
> 
> On 1/13/2013 11:15 AM, Jens wrote:
> > Having had problems instatling and getting Pentax Camera Utility 4 +
> > Pentax Remote Assistant to work properlymy pro. (As I don't have the
> > original PCU4 CD yet, this might be one reason for  my problems). I
> > have upgraded the K20D firmware properly. But I cant find the
> > original USB cord for the K20D, so I'm using the one from my K-5 -
> > should this cause any problems? Aren't the cords (K-5, K20D, K-01)
> > compatible?
> >
> >
> > I have read, that I need to upgrade Windows 7 as well as download
> > software to allow Windows 7  to work in "XP-mode", in order to make
> > PDCU+PRA work. Is this true?
> >
> > Then I downloaded the third-party software PK_tether. It worked
> > right away. Is this dangerous to use - vould i tharm my camera?
> >
> > Is there a tethered method, thheat will actually show the viewfinder
> > image on the computerscreen (with Pentax cameras, naturally).
> >
> > I am using K20D for this purpose.
> >
> > I found that PK tether works differently accordiing to wher I store
> > the program.
> > Where suld I store it. ive
> >
> > I'd really appreciate any help you might offer as well as experience
> > you ant to share :-)
> >
> > Thanks in advanace.
> > Jens, Denmark
> 
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Re: PESO - Still Smiling (bike messenger content)

[Igor Roshchin]

Hi Frank,

Sorry, I can't help sharing: my reaction to "still smiling" is
the association with two old children's jokes:

1. Teacher, telling students about safety: when you are at the construction
site, you are supposed to wear a hard hat. When a brick fell on Nick who
was wearing a hard hat, he just smiled.
A student: "Yeah, he is still smiling". 

2. 
-- Our neighbor's daughter is always smiling.
-- That's because they pull her pigtails really tight.


Back to the photo:
It's a nice smile well captured. 
It looks like you used fill-in flash (?), which is done well, providing
well lit face without any shadows.

1. I would straighten the shot a bit by rotating it slightly CW.
(right now the walls on the right are vertical, but the
vertical structures behind the guy (are leaning toward the left).
This provide slightly more natural position/angle for the guy 
(including that for his left leg [on the right for us]).

I am not sure, but I might consider doing lens correction for the lens 
distortion, so that the poles are not leaning outward as much.
At ~21mm focal length, there is noticeable wide-angle lens effect.

2. Additionaly, I'd think about two improvements in the composition:
a) The empty right half of the frame in this case doesn't quite work for
me. (It could've if he was facing that way.)
b) The clutter of the detail behind his shoulder and head is a bit
distracting (there is not enough separation, so those things are growing
out of his shoulder and head). The two poles to the side are less
of a problem (and they create ambience, but they are also not separated 
enough.

I would've made a step to the left so that it is the pedestrian walk
that is behind the guy (being careful not to have "Little Anthony's" 
growing out of his ear[s]), and would also consider opening up the 
aperture to blur the background a bit. (Although, f/4 that you used
might be the largest opening for your lens, - I don't know what you 
were using.)

I hope you don't mind these suggestions.

Cheers,

Igor



Sun Jan 13 12:57:05 EST 2013
knarftheriault wrote:

> I showed a photo of Scottie about a month ago. He was smiling in that photo. 
> He's still smiling:
> 
>  http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/01/still-smiling.html?m=1
> 
> He's pretty much always smiling.   ;-)
> 
> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
> 
> Cheers,
> frank 

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Re: A logistics problem

[Larry Colen]

On Jan 13, 2013, at 5:06 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> Steve Cottrell wrote:
> 
>> On 13/1/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>>> I may experiment with eyefi sometime down the road, but definitely not
>>> while on an assignment.
>> 
>> Yep, experimenting live in the field is fraught with danger!
>> 
>> Paul, very interesting consideration if you ever find yourself needing
>> to edit a pic while out and about with no macbook laptop. Shoot the pic
>> in jpeg and using either an eyefi card or something like an Airstash
>> (q.v.) you can wifi the pic to your iphone and then use something like
>> Snapseed (which I find intuitive and fast) for editing before sending
>> via 3G or wifi. Quite impressive!
> 
> When I was a young man, we used Polaroids and carrier pigeons...

You misspelled pterodactyl.


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Re: Tethered shooting problems

[P. J. Alling]

That should be "identical" damned spell checker.

On 1/13/2013 12:42 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I think the cords are incidental from the *ist-Ds to the K--5xxx.

Sorry I can't help you on the compatibility issue between Remote 
assistant and the OS but I can't help but expect that there will be 
problems. Pentax pretty much dropped support for Remote Assistant 
after the K-20D was discontinued. There is no provision to display 
live view over the USB tether, I thought that was BS that Pentax 
wouldn't match the features that other manufactures included, but I 
guess their philosophy is that they build field cameras not studio 
cameras. Why supply functionality that few will use that will just add 
to the cost of the product.


I don't think PK_tether will harm you camera, I'd worry that some of 
the commands won't work correctly.


I've been using PDCU4 for several years now and I don't think that 
Remote Assistant properly integrates with any version after 3.X. I''m 
also pretty sure that Remote Assistant 3.x doesn't officially support 
the K-7 or the K-5 cameras. It may work with them much as Camera 
Assistant 1.0 seemed to operated the entire *ist-D[x] family even 
thought it only officially supported the *ist-D.


On 1/13/2013 11:15 AM, Jens wrote:
Having had problems instatling and getting Pentax Camera Utility 4 + 
Pentax Remote Assistant to work properlymy pro. (As I don't have the 
original PCU4 CD yet, this might be one reason for  my problems). I 
have upgraded the K20D firmware properly. But I cant find the 
original USB cord for the K20D, so I'm using the one from my K-5 - 
should this cause any problems? Aren't the cords (K-5, K20D, K-01) 
compatible?



I have read, that I need to upgrade Windows 7 as well as download 
software to allow Windows 7  to work in "XP-mode", in order to make 
PDCU+PRA work. Is this true?


Then I downloaded the third-party software PK_tether. It worked right 
away. Is this dangerous to use - vould i tharm my camera?


Is there a tethered method, thheat will actually show the viewfinder 
image on the computerscreen (with Pentax cameras, naturally).


I am using K20D for this purpose.

I found that PK tether works differently accordiing to wher I store 
the program.

Where suld I store it. ive

I'd really appreciate any help you might offer as well as experience 
you ant to share :-)


Thanks in advanace.
Jens, Denmark






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Re: OT Publishing thoughts

[Bob Sullivan]

Dave,
I've enjoyed reading your adventures so far.
I'd say you should continue the way you are,
and then do some ruthless editing.
You can always get it down to a specific number of pages.
Maybe our pro-writers can give some advice.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:48 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Hey all. Its a warm rainy day in Southern Ontario, so I'm working on
> my book. I'm up to 1979 and hope to have that finished by weeks end,
> the way i go at it. I have been asking my self, self, whats the best
> way to go about publishing this. Do a trilogy in 4 parts by decade,
> 70's, 80's, 90's, 2000's, but the 4 part trilogy has been done
> already, or just wait and publish the dam thing at completion, which
> could be a long time at this rate.
> I am up to 69 pages for 1973-to the start of 1979, so i'm looking at
> about 78-80 for the decade, plus a few more for scanned photos. At
> that rate the whole book, less photos could be in the 10 pages per
> year for about 350 just for the survey end and then about another
> 10-20 for life after plumb bobs.
>
> Thoughts??
>
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Re: ot browsers

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I use Firfox all the time, and I use Photo.net all the time. I do so
both on a PC, in the office, and a Mac, at home.  I have never
experienced any of the problems you report.  Perhaps your problem lies
with either a hardware issue or one relating to the operating system
you use?

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On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:53 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Ok, so i'm sure every one knows i'm geek challenged, but just throwing
> this out there as i have checked everything i know to check.
> I have several problems with fire fox, ya really i do:-), that do not
> happen in safari. In fire fox i cannot access any of the buttons in
> photo dot net to up load pictures, but everything works in safari. On
> FB several of the games i play, one being songpops, the songs do not
> load, but everything is fine in safari. Any ideas, preferences to turn
> on or off. I'm stumped. Firefox version 17. something. I thought
> upgrading to the newest version a few weeks ago would help but nope.
>
> Dave
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Re: Tethered shooting problems

[P. J. Alling]

The 645 was a studio or field camera, but I think the 645D is very much 
seen as a field camera by Pentax.  I also don't think that the imaging 
sensor in the 645D even supports live view.  The Hardware in the K-5 and 
K20D might support Live View through the USB tether, however the 
firmware doesn't.  Maybe somebody has produced a hacked firmware version 
that would allow  them to work that way.  I think that USB 2.0 probably 
supports the bandwidth necessary, but I'm really too lazy to look up the 
specifications and do the math today.


On 1/13/2013 2:03 PM, Jens wrote:

Heller"Why supply functionality that few will use that will just add to the 
cost of
the product."
Very true, PJ.

Thanks for the input P.J.

Pentax seems to be developing ONE studio camera, though - the 645D.
I think the RAW converter companies (Lightroom, Phase One) could very well make 
tethering software and tool for third party brands (not just Phase One, Leaf) 
of cameras.
I am a Capture One 7 Pro user, so that would be very nice.

My next try will be to try to install Pentax Remote Assistant on an XP computer.
And see how it turns out:-).

Meanwhile I'll be using PK-tether :-)
  Regards
Jens
  




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Re: PESO - Still Smiling (bike messenger content)

[Daniel J. Matyola]

He looks like a really pleasant fellow!
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On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:57 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> I showed a photo of Scottie about a month ago. He was smiling in that photo. 
> He's still smiling:
>
>  http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/01/still-smiling.html?m=1
>
> He's pretty much always smiling.   ;-)
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
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Kennyboy is still an idiot.

[P. J. Alling]

Bored, clicked a link, read a paragraph, almost threw up. Cruising the 
internet, randomly, risking my sanity, so you don't have to.


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RE: Kennyboy is still an idiot.

[Bob W]

Saying "Kennyboy is still an idiot" is like announcing that E is still =
mc^2

B

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> internet, randomly, risking my sanity, so you don't have to.
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Re: ot browsers

[Jostein Øksne]

Hmmm...
I just read about Apple uninstalling old Java versions from Macs, and both 
Apple and Oracle keeping silent about why. Newest version was left operable, 
afaik. But I have no idea if this automatically applies to Firefox too.
You may need to disable the old versions manually. Firefox will list all the 
installed versions of Java among the Extensions.


hth,
Jostein

- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" 

To: "Pentax Discuss" 
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 4:53 PM
Subject: ot browsers



Ok, so i'm sure every one knows i'm geek challenged, but just throwing
this out there as i have checked everything i know to check.
I have several problems with fire fox, ya really i do:-), that do not
happen in safari. In fire fox i cannot access any of the buttons in
photo dot net to up load pictures, but everything works in safari. On
FB several of the games i play, one being songpops, the songs do not
load, but everything is fine in safari. Any ideas, preferences to turn
on or off. I'm stumped. Firefox version 17. something. I thought
upgrading to the newest version a few weeks ago would help but nope.

Dave

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Re: PESO: Penn Station

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Frank!
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On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:04 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
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> The cloudy reflections make it seem very dreamlike. Cool shot!
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> --- Original Message ---
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> From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> Sent: January 13, 2013 1/13/13
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> Subject: PESO: Penn Station
>
> Through the window, as my train was pulling out:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16718657
> Comments and criticisms always welcome.
>
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Re: Kennyboy is still an idiot.

[P. J. Alling]

Some truths must be reiterated, lest we forget.

On 1/13/2013 3:13 PM, Bob W wrote:

Saying "Kennyboy is still an idiot" is like announcing that E is still =
mc^2

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Bored, clicked a link, read a paragraph, almost threw up. Cruising the
internet, randomly, risking my sanity, so you don't have to.

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Re: A logistics problem

[P. J. Alling]

On 1/13/2013 2:39 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Jan 13, 2013, at 5:06 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Steve Cottrell wrote:


On 13/1/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:


I may experiment with eyefi sometime down the road, but definitely not
while on an assignment.

Yep, experimenting live in the field is fraught with danger!

Paul, very interesting consideration if you ever find yourself needing
to edit a pic while out and about with no macbook laptop. Shoot the pic
in jpeg and using either an eyefi card or something like an Airstash
(q.v.) you can wifi the pic to your iphone and then use something like
Snapseed (which I find intuitive and fast) for editing before sending
via 3G or wifi. Quite impressive!

When I was a young man, we used Polaroids and carrier pigeons...

You misspelled pterodactyl.


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Re: PESO - (Warning- cat pic!) Forgiven

[P. J. Alling]

On 1/13/2013 9:42 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Minnie was subjected to a brutal assault by my feet yesterday as I
tripped over her carrying a basket of logs. No broken bones, and I think
she might just have forgiven me.



Fuji X10 large/fine jpeg, Provia setting. f/2.5 at 1/60th, ISO 640




I think she's just plotting your death.

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Re: PESO: Giglio

[Collin Brendemuehl]

The latter.  One without character.

Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:52:23 -0500
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Is that a reference to the island or to the Pastor.  
Dan Matyola
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Re: I've been selected for a juried art show, VAM35

[Bruce Walker]

Thank you, Frank!  It'd be really great if you could come, and gravy
if you could get some shots too. :-)

I just returned from a jaunt over to the AGM to deliver my print.
Quite looking forward to seeing it up on Thursday.


On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:19 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
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> I'll sure as hell try to make it, Bruce - then again I had the best of 
> intentions with Postmodern Pinups and that didn't happen.
>
> Rest assured I will have my camera with me!
>
> Oh yeah, congrats!!
>
> Cheers,
> frank
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>
> Thanks folks.
>
> Hopefully somebody'll bring a camera to the opening. Maybe I'll sit in
> a corner and take notes on visitor's reactions to my shot. ;-)
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Walt  wrote:
>> Big, big congratulations, Bruce!
>>
>> I'd love to see the link, though I have no doubt it's absolutely worthy of
>> the honor.
>>
>> -- Walt
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/4/2013 5:23 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>>
>>> The new year was only a couple of days old when I got some great news:
>>> I've had an image selected for the Visual Arts Mississauga 35th Annual
>>> Juried Show of Fine Arts. The opening is January 17th, 6pm-8pm, Art
>>> Gallery of Mississauga, in the City Hall. For anyone in the area who
>>> can make it out, I would love to see you there.
>>>
>>> Apparently there were an unprecedented 248 submissions from which 48
>>> were selected for the show which will run until March 2.
>>>
>>> Some of you have seen the winning shot, "Trio", as I posted it here as
>>> a PESO briefly in November. I had to quickly take it offline when I
>>> decided to submit it to the show as their rules include "not
>>> previously published" and I'm unsure how anal they are about it. (If
>>> you're interested to see it write me and I'll send you a link.)
>>>
>>> https://www.visualartsmississauga.com/news.php
>>>
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Re: PESO: Giglio

[Daniel J. Matyola]

In any event, it is a fine image.  I believe I just saw it, and voted
for it, on the PPG.

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> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:52:23 -0500
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Re: PESO - (Warning- cat pic!) Forgiven

[Bruce Walker]

Oh, lovely cat and a *great* expression! I see traces of resentment
still showing there. :-)


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> Minnie was subjected to a brutal assault by my feet yesterday as I
> tripped over her carrying a basket of logs. No broken bones, and I think
> she might just have forgiven me.
>
> 
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> Fuji X10 large/fine jpeg, Provia setting. f/2.5 at 1/60th, ISO 640
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Re: Geso, some four seasons

[Rob Studdert]

On 13 January 2013 05:58, David J Brooks  wrote:
> In a bit of a dry spell photo wize, so i put a small gallery together
> of some places i have managed to get 4 season photos:
>
> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2013-fourseasons/album/index.html
>
> Mostly Stouffville area and Zepher.

A really interesting set of images Dave, the contrasts between the
images are striking, the seasons aren't nearly as pronounced around
here ;)

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Re: Kennyboy is still an idiot.

[Jack Davis]

Being reminded is preferable to my eyes accidentally falling upon some of his 
literary sump spew.

Jack
 
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Some truths must be reiterated, lest we forget.

On 1/13/2013 3:13 PM, Bob W wrote:
> Saying "Kennyboy is still an idiot" is like announcing that E is still =
> mc^2
>
> B
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>> Bored, clicked a link, read a paragraph, almost threw up. Cruising the
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Re: Geso, some four seasons

[Bruce Walker]

Beautifully done, Dave. It's great to see how much the character of
the landscape changes.

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>
> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2013-fourseasons/album/index.html
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> Mostly Stouffville area and Zepher.
>
> Dave
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Re: ot browsers

[Bruce Walker]

I'm thinking that the Firefox devs broke something in a recent update.
My wife was having trouble uploading a story to a creative site a few
days ago and their support techs told her to try Chrome instead. That
worked fine.

FF may be becoming the new IE. ;-)


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> Ok, so i'm sure every one knows i'm geek challenged, but just throwing
> this out there as i have checked everything i know to check.
> I have several problems with fire fox, ya really i do:-), that do not
> happen in safari. In fire fox i cannot access any of the buttons in
> photo dot net to up load pictures, but everything works in safari. On
> FB several of the games i play, one being songpops, the songs do not
> load, but everything is fine in safari. Any ideas, preferences to turn
> on or off. I'm stumped. Firefox version 17. something. I thought
> upgrading to the newest version a few weeks ago would help but nope.
>
> Dave
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Re: PESO - Still Smiling (bike messenger content)

[Bruce Walker]

You caught a great expression on him, and he's very nicely framed in this shot.


On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:57 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> I showed a photo of Scottie about a month ago. He was smiling in that photo. 
> He's still smiling:
>
>  http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/01/still-smiling.html?m=1
>
> He's pretty much always smiling.   ;-)
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
>
> Cheers,
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Re: Kennyboy is still an idiot

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From: "P. J. Alling"  

> Bored, clicked a link, read a paragraph, almost threw up. Cruising the 
> internet, randomly, risking
> my sanity, so you don't have to.

One incurs no pain when they risk what they do not possess. ;)

Tom C.

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>   3. Re: PESO - Still Smiling (bike messenger content) (Igor Roshchin)
>   4. Re: A logistics problem (Larry Colen)
>   5. Re: Tethered shooting problems (P. J. Alling)
>   6. Re: PESO: Giglio (Daniel J. Matyola)
>   7. Re: OT Publishing thoughts (Bob Sullivan)
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>   9. Re: Tethered shooting problems (P. J. Alling)
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>Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:42:03 +
>From: "Steve Cottrell" 
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>On 13/1/13, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I almost think I am in the market for a small but good quality digital
>
>>camera, and am really attracted to the Fuji cameras right now.
>>I know a few here are using various models.
>>Here is my criteria:
>>Must have an optica viewfinder (a hybrid is OK, as long as there is an
>
>>optical option).
>>Interchangable lenses would be nice, in which case a good selection of
>
>>primes would be a requirement, though if it is a fixed lens, it would
>need 
>>to be a medium wide to medium telephoto zoom.
>>Obviously, it must shoot in some sort of raw format.
>>Video not important, but if it's there, fine.
>>Good high ISO capability. The K5 has spoiled me for being able to
>shoot high 
>>ISO, and there is no way I want to go back to being afraid to shoot
>above 
>>ISO 400.
>>
>>Thanks for any advice.
>
>Without a doubt the X-Pro 1 sounds like it fits the bill. I have the
>Baby X10 the build quality and pictures out of it are amazingly good.
>The X20 is supposed to be streets ahead because of a new sensor, and
>even has optical viewfinder with info overlay.
>
>I don't want interchangeable lenses anymore, just don't do that kind of
>shooting. At some point I will be getting an X100s without a doubt. I
>may even sell the X10 and get an X20 - the 2 cameras together will
>satisfy my picture taking needs.
>
>My biggest question is why I am not considering anything from Pentax
>:-(
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PESO - Hammer in the Sky

[Mark C]

I ain't been around for a while, but just made a new photo from an 
exposure taken in September and stuck it on my blog. You can see it here 
- comments always appreciated:


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/

Taken with a Pentax Q and 02 Normal Zoom.

Below it is another shot that I processed earlier this month Lincoln's 
Tomb in Springfield IL, IR converted K-10D and kit lens.


Later -

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Re: PESO - (Warning- cat pic!) Forgiven

[Bob Sullivan]

My thoughts exactly, when you least expect her attack...
She definitely looks like she is carring a grudge.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 2:25 PM, P. J. Alling
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> On 1/13/2013 9:42 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>>
>> Minnie was subjected to a brutal assault by my feet yesterday as I
>> tripped over her carrying a basket of logs. No broken bones, and I think
>> she might just have forgiven me.
>>
>> 
>>
>> Fuji X10 large/fine jpeg, Provia setting. f/2.5 at 1/60th, ISO 640
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> I think she's just plotting your death.
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OT: Grammar Nazi (was: Kennyboy is still an idiot

[Bob W]

Someone who shall remain nameless wrote:

> One incurs no pain when they risk what they do not possess. ;)

I've noticed this dreadful mangling increasingly recently. When one uses
'one' as a subject, then one must only use 'one' as the pronoun in the rest
of the phrase. So it should be "One incurs no pain when one risks what one
does not possess."

So come along, chaps, get with it, or must one get mediaeval on yo' ass?

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RE: PESO - (Warning- cat pic!) Forgiven

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> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan
> 
> My thoughts exactly, when you least expect her attack...
> She definitely looks like she is carring a grudge.

Probably in the same basket as all the logs.

B
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> 
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 2:25 PM, P. J. Alling
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> >> think she might just have forgiven me.
> >>
> >> 
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Made it out to New Mexico safely

[jsessoms002]

Only a little snow last night in Amarillo; just enough to be photogenic this 
morning between Amarillo & Tucumcari.

I may have taken a few good photos along the way. Nothing in NE New Mexico 
because the highway was kind of treacherous & by the time I got to somewhere I 
could safely pull off to take photos I was west of where the snow fell. Can't 
tell for sure about the rest of them until I have a chance to review, but I'm 
hopeful. 

I'm still having to use RoadRunner Webmail and it SUX!

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Re: A logistics problem

[steve harley]

on 2013-01-13 9:25 Paul Stenquist wrote

Thanks Cotty. I'll try that. I'm trying to find an easy way to go from mac to 
iPhone without wifi.


if both were on a 3G or 4G network, you could use Apple's Photostream, Dropbox 
or any similar syncing solution


Apple's Camera Connection kit would be a nice route for hardwired transfer, but 
Apple doesn't allow it work with iPhone; if you jailbreak your phone, there are 
tools that will work; i think an iPad Mini with 4G would be useful for this 
kind of reportage (it also has a camera equivalent to the iPhone 4)



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Re: ot browsers

[steve harley]

on 2013-01-13 8:53 David J Brooks wrote

I have several problems with fire fox, ya really i do:-), that do not
happen in safari. In fire fox i cannot access any of the buttons in
photo dot net to up load pictures, but everything works in safari. On
FB several of the games i play, one being songpops, the songs do not
load, but everything is fine in safari.


it sounds like all JavaScript functionality is dead; do you have something like 
NoScript installed or have you simply turned off JavaScript?


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Re: PESO - Hammer in the Sky

[Daniel J. Matyola]

The hammer is quite nice indeed, and I also enjoyed the Lincoln Tomb
image, although IR image usually  don't appeal to me.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> I ain't been around for a while, but just made a new photo from an exposure
> taken in September and stuck it on my blog. You can see it here - comments
> always appreciated:
>
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/
>
> Taken with a Pentax Q and 02 Normal Zoom.
>
> Below it is another shot that I processed earlier this month Lincoln's Tomb
> in Springfield IL, IR converted K-10D and kit lens.
>
> Later -
>
> Mark
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Re: PESO - (Warning- cat pic!) Forgiven

[steve harley]

on 2013-01-13 7:42 Steve Cottrell wrote

Minnie was subjected to a brutal assault by my feet yesterday as I
tripped over her carrying a basket of logs. No broken bones, and I think
she might just have forgiven me.




nice glow — did she at least get to sit by the stove/fireplace?

cats are surprisingly forgiving

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Re: Tethered shooting problems

[Igor Roshchin]

P.J.,

Regarding the bandwidth of USB 2.0:
If USB 2.0 is sufficient for tethering Canon and Nikon DSLRs with live
view, why wouldn't it be sufficient for Pentax, whose sensor is similar
or smaller (pixel-wise, and hence bandwidth-wise).

Igor


Sun Jan 13 15:04:26 EST 2013
P. J. Alling wrote:

> The 645 was a studio or field camera, but I think the 645D is very much 
> seen as a field camera by Pentax.  I also don't think that the imaging 
> sensor in the 645D even supports live view.  The Hardware in the K-5 and 
> K20D might support Live View through the USB tether, however the 
> firmware doesn't.  Maybe somebody has produced a hacked firmware version 
> that would allow  them to work that way.  I think that USB 2.0 probably 
> supports the bandwidth necessary, but I'm really too lazy to look up the 
> specifications and do the math today.

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Re: X-Pro 1, eh?

[Chris Mitchell]

On 13 January 2013 18:31, William Robb  wrote:
> I almost think I am in the market for a small but good quality digital
> camera, and am really attracted to the Fuji cameras right now.
> I know a few here are using various models.
> Here is my criteria:
> Must have an optica viewfinder (a hybrid is OK, as long as there is an
> optical option).
> Interchangable lenses would be nice, in which case a good selection of
> primes would be a requirement, though if it is a fixed lens, it would need
> to be a medium wide to medium telephoto zoom.
> Obviously, it must shoot in some sort of raw format.
> Video not important, but if it's there, fine.
> Good high ISO capability. The K5 has spoiled me for being able to shoot high
> ISO, and there is no way I want to go back to being afraid to shoot above
> ISO 400.
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> William Robb
Hi William

My X-Pro1 is a present for a big birthday so I'm a very lucky chap. It
fits the bill as you described for interchangeable lenses. It's APS-C
so the same crop factor as the Pentax bodies. The 3 lenses (18mm, 35mm
and 60mm) that were launched with it are highly regarded. I've got the
35mm and a 18mm on order as part of a 2 lenses for 1 offer in the UK.
I've also got a K-mount adaptor on order so will be able to use my MF
/ aperture ring based lenses in manual focus and stop down metering.
There's now a consumer level zoom and many more lenses in the
pipeline.

Size wise it's not the smallest in the Fuji range - with the 35mm lens
on it's the same overall dimensions as my MX with the 50mm F1.7 lens
on it. It's the same height as the MX's pentaprism s the MX looks
smaller because of the shoulders either side of the pentaprism (if
that makes any sense).

It's feels lighter than the MX, but the build quality is superb and it
feels well engineered and very solid.

The shots that I did at the Barbican exhibition were at ISO3200 and
I'm more than happy with the quality. At 1600 it's truly excellent.
Much better than my K7, but I can't compare with a K5.

I haven't had it for long enough to do a proper review, but initially
I'm very impressed. Of course there are quirks - there are the usual
gripes on the forums, but nothing that I'm not prepared to live with.
The big one that they're all on about is the lack of full support in
Lightroom (Google it for a happy hour or two's reading) but I've been
using LR without seeing any issues. It's light to carry around and the
lenses are small and light. With the ability to put my Pentax lenses
on it, I can see it becoming my main body with the K7 as backup.

I know a couple of people with the X10, including Cotty, and I get
very good feedback about it. The fast zoom is seen to be excellent and
it looks as though the X20 is going to be a significant improvement.

Hope this helps

Chris

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Re: PESOs: London Exhibition

[Chris Mitchell]

Thanks Frank. The Burrows pictures must have been 20" by 30" or
similar and they were very dramatic.

Chris

PS - what better way is there to become a PDML hate figure?
CM


On 13 January 2013 18:10, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Sounds like an absolutely amazing exhibit. The Davidson and Burrows photos 
> must have been moving. I've not seen either big and on a wall.
>
> Cool photos by you.
>
> X-Pro 1, eh? I hate you...
>
> ;-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Chris Mitchell 
> Sent: January 13, 2013 1/13/13
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: PESOs: London Exhibition
>
> Bob W and I went to see Everything Was Moving: Photography from the
> 60s and 70s at the Barbican.
> http://www.barbican.org.uk/artgallery/event-detail.asp?ID=13613
>
> It was excellent, but huge - over 400 photographs from 12
> photographers. Highlights for me were:
>
> - Bruce Davidson's pictures from the Alabama freedom rides. Very
> powerful and captures perfectly the divided community.
> - William Eggleston (he who polarised PDML opinion in Chicago 2010). I
> just love his realism and Bob and I commented on the influence he must
> have had on the likes of Magnum man, Martin Parr
> - Larry Burrows's pictures from Vietnam. I've seen them in newspapers,
> but seeing the massive prints brings out their full impact.
>
> If you're thinking of going, you'll have to be quick; it ends today
> (Jan 13) sadly. But you'll get the bonus of seeing a steam train
> running on the Underground at Barbican station to celebrate the 150th
> anniversary.
>
> A couple of PESOs shot from the hip to avoid the "no phtography in here" 
> police:
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Barbican_1/slides/DSCF0243.html
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Barbican_1/slides/DSCF0257.html
>
> The attentive among you might see that they were taken on my new Fuji
> X-Pro 1. More of that later when I've given it a proper workout.
> Chris
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Re: X-Pro 1, eh?

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Mitchell"

Subject: Re: X-Pro 1, eh?



Hi William

My X-Pro1 is a present for a big birthday so I'm a very lucky chap. It
fits the bill as you described for interchangeable lenses. It's APS-C
so the same crop factor as the Pentax bodies. The 3 lenses (18mm, 35mm
and 60mm) that were launched with it are highly regarded. I've got the
35mm and a 18mm on order as part of a 2 lenses for 1 offer in the UK.
I've also got a K-mount adaptor on order so will be able to use my MF
/ aperture ring based lenses in manual focus and stop down metering.
There's now a consumer level zoom and many more lenses in the
pipeline.

Size wise it's not the smallest in the Fuji range - with the 35mm lens
on it's the same overall dimensions as my MX with the 50mm F1.7 lens
on it. It's the same height as the MX's pentaprism s the MX looks
smaller because of the shoulders either side of the pentaprism (if
that makes any sense).

It's feels lighter than the MX, but the build quality is superb and it
feels well engineered and very solid.

The shots that I did at the Barbican exhibition were at ISO3200 and
I'm more than happy with the quality. At 1600 it's truly excellent.
Much better than my K7, but I can't compare with a K5.

I haven't had it for long enough to do a proper review, but initially
I'm very impressed. Of course there are quirks - there are the usual
gripes on the forums, but nothing that I'm not prepared to live with.
The big one that they're all on about is the lack of full support in
Lightroom (Google it for a happy hour or two's reading) but I've been
using LR without seeing any issues. It's light to carry around and the
lenses are small and light. With the ability to put my Pentax lenses
on it, I can see it becoming my main body with the K7 as backup.

I know a couple of people with the X10, including Cotty, and I get
very good feedback about it. The fast zoom is seen to be excellent and
it looks as though the X20 is going to be a significant improvement.

Hope this helps


It certainly does help. I suspect that I will probably look pretty seriously 
at the X20 when it becomes available. The X-1Pro is pretty expensive, I'm 
not sure if I'll be able to justify it or not. I'm not in a huge rush, so I 
can wait and see what other lenses they make for the thing.


thanks again

William Robb 



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January PUG - interim PUG-master

[Igor Roshchin]

Dear PDML fellows,

As many of you have read from Doug's message last week, our PUG-master,
Brian, had a mild stroke. While Brian is recovering (and the fact that he
is worrying about PUG within just days after the stroke, suggests that 
he is alright and we'll see him soon on the list again), Bill Wrobb,
a former PUG-master (July-2000 - December 2001) has kindly agreed to
serve in that role.
(Kudos to Bill!)

He is working on January PUG, and will inform you as soon as it is
ready. (I hear it's close to be ready.)

Igor


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Re: Tethered shooting problems

[Larry Colen]

On Jan 13, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

> 
> P.J.,
> 
> Regarding the bandwidth of USB 2.0:
> If USB 2.0 is sufficient for tethering Canon and Nikon DSLRs with live
> view, why wouldn't it be sufficient for Pentax, whose sensor is similar
> or smaller (pixel-wise, and hence bandwidth-wise).

I've been drawing up a wishlist of features that I'd like to see in a 
DSLR/EVIL.  One of them is wi-fi, with an open standard for tethering, 
uploading files and controlling strobes.  

This would mean that you could use a smart phone as a remote display/control, 
if for example you were holding your camera over your head on a monopod, or 
getting a macro shot with the camera in a very awkward place.

> 

--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





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Re: Tethered shooting problems

[Stan Halpin]

On Jan 13, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> 
> On Jan 13, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
> 
>> 
>> P.J.,
>> 
>> Regarding the bandwidth of USB 2.0:
>> If USB 2.0 is sufficient for tethering Canon and Nikon DSLRs with live
>> view, why wouldn't it be sufficient for Pentax, whose sensor is similar
>> or smaller (pixel-wise, and hence bandwidth-wise).
> 
> I've been drawing up a wishlist of features that I'd like to see in a 
> DSLR/EVIL.  One of them is wi-fi, with an open standard for tethering, 
> uploading files and controlling strobes.  
> 
> This would mean that you could use a smart phone as a remote display/control, 
> if for example you were holding your camera over your head on a monopod, or 
> getting a macro shot with the camera in a very awkward place.
> 
Are we back to endoscopy again?

stan



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PAW Week 2-2013

[Christine Aguila]

Cheers, Christine
http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/content/pawweek2sharpened_edited-1_large.html

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Re: PAW Week 2-2013

[Bruce Walker]

I like it Christine. Just a little too Lr preset'y for my taste, but I
love the curved distortions.


On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
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> Cheers, Christine
> http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/content/pawweek2sharpened_edited-1_large.html
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Re: OT: Grammar Nazi (was: Kennyboy is still an idiot

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Thank you, Miss Marple.

G

On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> Someone who shall remain nameless wrote:
>
>> One incurs no pain when they risk what they do not possess. ;)
>
> I've noticed this dreadful mangling increasingly recently. When one uses
> 'one' as a subject, then one must only use 'one' as the pronoun in the rest
> of the phrase. So it should be "One incurs no pain when one risks what one
> does not possess."
>
> So come along, chaps, get with it, or must one get mediaeval on yo' ass?
>
> B
>
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