Re: PESO -- Major Snow Event?

[Aahz Maruch]

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013, David Mann wrote:
> On Feb 10, 2013, at 3:22 PM, David Parsons  wrote:
>> 
>> I blame the 24 hour news cycle.  When you need to fill programming
>> time, any catchy names will grab eyeballs.  It's the same reason that
>> the Weather Channel named the storm Nemo.
> 
> Cue lawsuit from Disney :D

They wouldn't come within a league of winning.
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Re: OT: Traceroute, episode IV

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On Sat, Feb 09, 2013, Larry Colen wrote:
>
> I got this from my Chuck Fry, who got it from Evan Hunt.
> traceroute 216.81.59.173
> or if you're on windows
> tracert 216.81.59.173

>From discussion elsenet:

Linux/Unix:  traceroute -m 100 obiwan.scrye.net
Windows: tracert -h 100 obiwan.scrye.net

otherwise you miss the ending.
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PAW--Week 6 2013

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Happy Valentines day, Everyone!  Cheers, Christine

http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/content/_IGP5511_large.html

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Re: PAW Week 5-2013

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks Rob, Frank, and Chris!  Cheers, Christine


On Feb 10, 2013, at 1:52 AM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:

> On 3 February 2013 22:43, Christine Aguila  wrote:
>> Cheers, Christine
>> 
>> http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/content/_IGP5449_large.html
>> 
> A superb night time shot Christine. Very well executed.
> 
> Chris
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Re: A House Divided

[Christine Aguila]

I'll tell Darrel he's not alone, Boris :-).  cheers, Christine



On Feb 9, 2013, at 10:58 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:

> Pass Darrel my regards... I tend to team up with him here... Though both 
> photograph have very "Blade Runner" feel in them.
> 
> On 2/4/2013 12:50 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>> Hi All:
>> 
>> Darrel likes the BW better, but I went with the bleach bypass.  Just FYI.  
>> Cheers, Christine
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.caguila.com/truman2/content/truman2renderings_large.html
>> 
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Re: Boris #07 - Havarim wadi

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On Feb 9, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

> Larry, in English transliteration "friends" will be "havErim"... Havar 
> (notice the second A) is a type of stone that is typical for the area. It is 
> called "marlstone" in English: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marl.
> 
> Wadi (Arabic, Nahal in Hebrew) is a stream of water that dries out in summer 
> and may or may not flow in winter. Additionally, wadi means "valley" in 
> Arabic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadi.

Ah, I see. I thought you meant that wadi meant "place name"

> 
> This time I have seen the actual mud and wet sand in the middle of Negev 
> desert. This was pretty amazing, though I don't hike, so I am probably easily 
> impressed.
> 
> Granted, even Israelis often confuse the name of the wadi and call it Wadi 
> Haverim, which is inaccurate.

Yes, that sort of thing happens a lot, in all languages.  Thanks a lot for the 
language lesson.

It seems that Hebrew is just one of the very many subjects where I know just 
enough to make a fool of myself.

> 
> But, beside the linguistics - this is relatively easy hike and if you look it 
> up in Google you will find that this is outstanding photographic location. If 
> you come, be sure to bring your GPS unit and some interesting night sky 
> photography can be done there...

I can't imagine that I'd travel there without  it.


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Re: PESO -Speaking of Snow

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Thanks Christine. And thanks to all who commented or had a look.

Paul
On Feb 10, 2013, at 2:56 AM, Christine Aguila  wrote:

> Excellent!  and I love the missing tooth!  Well done, Paul.  cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> On Feb 9, 2013, at 2:00 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
>> On the hill at Booth Park this afternoon:
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16891132&size=lg
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PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and the Beatles)

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Winter sunrise, taken a few weeks ago:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/blue-sunrise.html?m=1

Not the most spectacular colours but I rather like it. Hope you do, too.

Comments always welcome.

Cheers,
frank 

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Re: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and the Beatles)

[Bob Sullivan]

Frank,
Nice to see the color from you.
And I love the bird.
Did you pay him to pose there?
Those wispy clouds on the left are pretty good too.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> Winter sunrise, taken a few weeks ago:
>
>  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/blue-sunrise.html?m=1
>
> Not the most spectacular colours but I rather like it. Hope you do, too.
>
> Comments always welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO -Speaking of Snow

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Grace can't take a bad photo, but this is brilliant!

It's winter. Get out there and enjoy it! Grace obviously gets that.

;-)

cheers,
frank

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From: Paul Stenquist 
Sent: February 10, 2013 2/10/13
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Subject: Re: PESO -Speaking of Snow

Thanks Christine. And thanks to all who commented or had a look.

Paul
On Feb 10, 2013, at 2:56 AM, Christine Aguila  wrote:

> Excellent!  and I love the missing tooth!  Well done, Paul.  cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> On Feb 9, 2013, at 2:00 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
>> On the hill at Booth Park this afternoon:
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16891132&size=lg
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RE: PAW--Week 6 2013

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Love it!

cheers,
frank

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Subject: PAW--Week 6 2013

Happy Valentines day, Everyone!  Cheers, Christine

http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/content/_IGP5511_large.html

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Re: PESO - Thumbs Up

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Thank you, Boris, and thanks to everyone else who commented and looked at the 
photo.

Days like Friday test a bike messenger's mettle but guys like Andrew make it 
look easy. 

Glad you enjoyed!

cheers,
frank

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From: Boris Liberman 
Sent: February 9, 2013 2/9/13
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Subject: Re: PESO - Thumbs Up

Andrew certainly has short term prophetic powers... He knew that I will 
be giving you thumbs up for this shot, Frank... ;-)

On 2/9/2013 2:39 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
> Geez, feels like I've been away forever!
>
> So anyway, like much of eastern North America we had a snow event
> yesterday. Biggest snowfall in several years. I just couldn't do the
> ten mile commute since the plows didn't do our part of the world as
> of yesterday morning. We also have more snow than downtown.
>
> I did work, with a subway pass and walking. Gave me a chance to bring
> camera.
>
> A few bikes got out.
>
> This is Andrew, having fun in the snow:
>
> http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/thumbs-up.html?m=1
>
> Quick and dirty rendering. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers, frank
>
>
> "If the world were clear, art would not exist." -- Albert Camus
>


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RE: Peso street pano

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Looks like New Toronto. Don't know how much snow we got but it was a bit more 
than downtown. Looks about like what you got.

Nice pano!

cheers,
frank

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From: David J Brooks 
Sent: February 9, 2013 2/9/13
To: Pentax Discuss , Barbara Brooks 
Subject: Peso street pano

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16890814
A three shot pano of the street and our place after 30cm of snow.

And i did it with this guy:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16890825

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PESO - Prepared for Battle (messenger content)

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I didn't get nearly as many photos on Friday as I had hoped because (a) I was 
working and spent much of my time underground on the subway, and, (b) there 
were far fewer messengers on the road. Many clients were closed or closed early 
so the messengers spent a lot of "standing by".

This is the only "environmental portrait" I got. Jason's attire reminded me of 
armour, hence the title:

 http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/jason.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
 
Cheers,
frank

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Re: A House Divided

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I vote colour, for reasons already stated by others.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Christine Aguila 
Sent: February 10, 2013 2/10/13
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Subject: Re: A House Divided

I'll tell Darrel he's not alone, Boris :-).  cheers, Christine



On Feb 9, 2013, at 10:58 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:

> Pass Darrel my regards... I tend to team up with him here... Though both 
> photograph have very "Blade Runner" feel in them.
> 
> On 2/4/2013 12:50 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>> Hi All:
>> 
>> Darrel likes the BW better, but I went with the bleach bypass.  Just FYI.  
>> Cheers, Christine
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.caguila.com/truman2/content/truman2renderings_large.html
>> 
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Re: PAW161 - Winter forest

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Brilliant photo!

cheers,
frank

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It is impossibly good photograph... I cannot probably "hate" you enough, 
Dag :-).

On 2/3/2013 10:11 PM, DagT wrote:
> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
> Pentax K-5, DA*16-50mm, f/2.8, 1/50s, ISO100.
>
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Re: PESO: LeeAnn

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A ~very~ sexy photo, Walt!!

cheers,
frank

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From: Walt 
Sent: February 9, 2013 2/9/13
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Thank you, Christine!

-- Walt

On 2/9/2013 9:31 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
> Lovely!  Cheers, Christine
>
>
> On Feb 4, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Walt  wrote:
>
>> I grabbed a quick shot of a girl who came into the club where I work over 
>> the weekend. She was a moving target, and I had to call her name to get her 
>> to notice me as I was shooting through a small opening between the bar and 
>> the pool room.
>>
>> It could've been a little sharper, but I'm fairly happy with it.
>>
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444921971/
>> K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/2.2, 1/80 sec., ISO 800
>>
>> I figure if nothing else, Larry will like it. ;)
>>
>> -- Walt
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RE: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and the Beatles)

[Bob W]

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> 
> Winter sunrise, taken a few weeks ago:
> 
>  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/blue-sunrise.html?m=1
> 
> Not the most spectacular colours but I rather like it. Hope you do,
> too.

that's very nice - the bird makes it outstanding - you could probably make
some money from it if you put your mind to it.

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Re: PAW161 - Winter forest

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Love this one. Bet it looks great as a large print.
Paul
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> Brilliant photo!
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> 
> From: Boris Liberman 
> Sent: February 10, 2013 2/10/13
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: PAW161 - Winter forest
> 
> It is impossibly good photograph... I cannot probably "hate" you enough, 
> Dag :-).
> 
> On 2/3/2013 10:11 PM, DagT wrote:
>> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
>> Pentax K-5, DA*16-50mm, f/2.8, 1/50s, ISO100.
>> 
>> DagT
>> http://www.thrane.name/
>> 
>> 
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Re: PESO - Prepared for Battle (messenger content)

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>
> This is the only "environmental portrait" I got. Jason's attire
> reminded me of armour, hence the title:
>
>  http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/jason.html?m=1

Nice!  It reminds me of how long it's been since I've biked.  :-(
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RE: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and the Beatles)

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"Mind"? What mind?

BTW I photoshopped the bird in.

Cheers,
frank

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Sent: February 10, 2013 2/10/13
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Subject: RE: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and the 
Beatles)

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> 
> Winter sunrise, taken a few weeks ago:
> 
>  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/blue-sunrise.html?m=1
> 
> Not the most spectacular colours but I rather like it. Hope you do,
> too.

that's very nice - the bird makes it outstanding - you could probably make
some money from it if you put your mind to it.

B


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Re: PESO - Prepared for Battle (messenger content)

[Bob Sullivan]

Frank,
It really conveys a cold and snowy day.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 wrote:
> I didn't get nearly as many photos on Friday as I had hoped because (a) I was 
> working and spent much of my time underground on the subway, and, (b) there 
> were far fewer messengers on the road. Many clients were closed or closed 
> early so the messengers spent a lot of "standing by".
>
> This is the only "environmental portrait" I got. Jason's attire reminded me 
> of armour, hence the title:
>
>  http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/jason.html?m=1
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: Boris #07 - Havarim wadi

[John Sessoms]

From: Larry Colen


On Feb 9, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Bob W wrote:


It's an Arabic word which passed into Spanish via Andalucia as Guad- in
place names like Guadalajara, Guadalquivir and, presumably, Guadalcanal;
that is, Wadi al whatever.


Aha!  The place of friends,

Hence your comment about bringing PDMLers.

Very fun!


I guess I missed the nuance of that meaning. I just took it for "If 
y'all come to visit, here's a nice place to photograph that I can show you."


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Re: PESO -- Major Snow Event?

[John Sessoms]

From: David Mann

On Feb 10, 2013, at 3:22 PM, David Parsons  wrote:


I blame the 24 hour news cycle.  When you need to fill programming
time, any catchy names will grab eyeballs.  It's the same reason that
the Weather Channel named the storm Nemo.


Cue lawsuit from Disney :D

Cheers,
Dave


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Re: Boris #07 - Havarim wadi

[Mark C]

A bleak scene to be sure but the composition is most excellent. I like 
the way so many lines flow towards the rock in the right center of the 
frame. The lines in the image also approximate the golden ratio in many 
ways.


Mark

On 2/9/2013 12:55 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Hi!

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2013/02/2013-07-havarim-wadi.html

Note to self: whenever a PDMLer comes for a visit, take them there at 
night. It will be fantastic...


B&H comments will as usual be appreciated.

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Re: PESO - Thumbs Up

[Mark C]

Nice shot, Frank. Looks like it takes a lot to stop him.

- Mark

On 2/9/2013 7:39 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Geez, feels like I've been away forever!

So anyway, like much of eastern North America we had a snow event yesterday. 
Biggest snowfall in several years. I just couldn't do the ten mile commute 
since the plows didn't do our part of the world as of yesterday morning. We 
also have more snow than downtown.

I did work, with a subway pass and walking. Gave me a chance to bring camera.

A few bikes got out.

This is Andrew, having fun in the snow:

  http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/thumbs-up.html?m=1

Quick and dirty rendering. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
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RE: OT The Photographer Action Figure!

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Do they have a "chimping" pose?

cheers, 
frank

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From: Bruce Walker 
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Subject: OT The Photographer Action Figure!

"Check this bad ass out, switching lenses and checking out CNN for the
latest details. On top of that, he looks a little like Leonardo
DiCaprio. This is highly accurate because we photographers are a good
looking bunch. Who wouldn’t want to make us into action figures? We’re
the definition of perfect."

http://solsticevisuals.com/post/42535325753/the-photographer-action-figure

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RE: OT PESO - Bonds Girl

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Oh my!

;-)

cheers,
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From: David Savage 
Sent: February 7, 2013 2/7/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: OT PESO - Bonds Girl

G'day All,

Here's one hot off the 'puter from tonight's shoot:



D800, 70-200mm f2.8 @ 120mm, f8 @ 1/160, ISO 100. Strip box camera
right, bare strobe behind for hair light. small soft box camera left
for fill.

Enjoy.

Cheers,

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RE: Why would you buy a Pentax FF camera?

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

I suppose I don't count because I am not a gear head. Other than the low ISO I 
am so happy with my K10d...

But there is one reason I would want full frame: wide angle would be wide 
again. My Zenitar semi-fisheye would be a "real" 16mm lens again.

That would be cool...

Cheers,
frank

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From: Steve Cottrell 
Sent: February 7, 2013 2/7/13
To: pentax list 
Subject: Why would you buy a Pentax FF camera?

I mean, aside from the obvious reasons like, bigger sensor, better image
quality, better use with lenses designed to work with a 36X24mm frame,
better lighting, better heating, better sewer systems, the roads (yes we
can't forget the roads)

Back in 2000, this camera came onto the scene:



and at the time, I was toting both the LX and the MX along with various
lenses and stuff. It was the first really 'affordable' DSLR and had I
not prevaricated for many months, I would have had one there and then.
Instead I waited to see what might be coming from Pentax - and so I
waited and waited. And nothing came.

And so in 2002, this came out:



and I could wait no longer. I jumped.

It was made of creaky plastic and it felt not a patch on the quality
metal construction of the MX and LX, but shooting with it was amazing.
No film! It was about £2000 GBP at the time and the premium paid over
and above a comparative film camera would have kept me in FP4 for years.
But it was digital and it was instant - I had a grin that lasted weeks.

I had the D60 for a while, but longed for better build quality and
features - exactly what I found in the 1D mark II (aps-h...1.3X crop).
That was a camera that fully met (and exceeded) all expectations. If I'd
stayed in the game of carrying a big system about with me, i would have
without doubt moved onto a 1Ds (full frame).

As it is, I sold up when times were hard, and in fact didn't really miss
it all.

My son has a 1DmIIn and some lenses, and good luck to him. Nice to play
with for a while, and I still mount a Pentax lens on it now and again if
I need to do some portraits, but I'm happier with my lil Fuji.

So what if Pentax brings out a FF camera - would I jump? i might...but why??

Well, the answer will probably surprise you and some will ridicule. It
has to do with a certain lens...

I still have my A*85/1.4 and I long for the time I can mount it to a
proper 36X24 Pentax body - simple as that. I'd be more than happy with
just that lens attached the whole time - and just for portraits. Daft innit!

But there you go - that's the way it is. So much for the photographic
tools theory. I keep a lens that waits for the right body to come along.
Who'da thought it.

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Re: Boris #07 - Havarim wadi

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Mark said it better than me. I like this one, Boris!

cheers,
frank

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From: Mark C 
Sent: February 10, 2013 2/10/13
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Subject: Re: Boris #07 - Havarim wadi

A bleak scene to be sure but the composition is most excellent. I like 
the way so many lines flow towards the rock in the right center of the 
frame. The lines in the image also approximate the golden ratio in many 
ways.

Mark

On 2/9/2013 12:55 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:
> Hi!
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2013/02/2013-07-havarim-wadi.html
>
> Note to self: whenever a PDMLer comes for a visit, take them there at 
> night. It will be fantastic...
>
> B&H comments will as usual be appreciated.
>
> Boris
>


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RE: Asteroid 2012DA14

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

:-)

cheers,
frank

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From: John Celio 
Sent: February 10, 2013 2/10/13
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Asteroid 2012DA14

With near-Earth asteroid 2012DA14 making a close swing by our planet
in the near future, I thought I might help any worried Pentaxians with
this simple graphic I put together:

http://imgur.com/H04J9pY
(click the image for higher-res)

John

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Re: PESO: Ultimate Product of the Bartender's Craft

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Yes. Terrific photo!

cheers,
frank

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From: Christine Aguila 
Sent: February 9, 2013 2/9/13
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Subject: Re: PESO: Ultimate Product of the Bartender's Craft

That's wonderful, Walt!  Cheers, Christine



On Feb 4, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Walt  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> So, last night was a very late one on account of the Superbowl. One 
> particular patron we all call Junior put up a hell of a fight, but finally 
> succumbed to the twin ravages of the clock and the can.
> 
> Much as I love my K20D, I sure am crazy about the K-5 in low light. It really 
> does have everything I could ever want in a camera, except a guarantee of 
> fair weather for the first 90 days following purchase.
> 
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8444571045/
> K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/1.4, 1/80 sec., ISO 1600
> 
> Comments, critiques and suggestions are, as always, eagerly accepted.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -- Walt
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Re: At least they didn't shoot me

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Just reading about this now, Larry.

Quite the harrowing experience! Glad you survived intact.

A $25 gift certificate from the cafeteria seems like minimal compensation for 
your ordeal. Is the food at least good there?

cheers,
frank



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From: Boris Liberman 
Sent: February 9, 2013 2/9/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: At least they didn't shoot me



On 2/5/2013 9:14 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
> I posted this story elsewhere, but since it actually has a little to
> HR offers to let me have the day off, and they'll square it with my
> boss, who knows nothing about this, but I decline.  A little later
> someone from HR shows up in my cube with a $25 card for the
> cafeteria.  The woman from HR, once again, thanks me for being so
> cooperative.  I, once again, point out that it's very easy to be
> cooperative when six people are pointing guns at you.

So, in a nut*shell* your local PD tends to err on the safe side... The 
question is - do they ever err on the unsafe side???

Boris


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War & Fashion

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http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/02/world/war-and-fashion/
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Re: PESO - Thumbs Up

[Paul Stenquist]

Well done!

Paul via phone

On Feb 10, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Mark C  wrote:

> Nice shot, Frank. Looks like it takes a lot to stop him.
> 
> - Mark
> 
> On 2/9/2013 7:39 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Geez, feels like I've been away forever!
>> 
>> So anyway, like much of eastern North America we had a snow event yesterday. 
>> Biggest snowfall in several years. I just couldn't do the ten mile commute 
>> since the plows didn't do our part of the world as of yesterday morning. We 
>> also have more snow than downtown.
>> 
>> I did work, with a subway pass and walking. Gave me a chance to bring camera.
>> 
>> A few bikes got out.
>> 
>> This is Andrew, having fun in the snow:
>> 
>>  http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/thumbs-up.html?m=1
>> 
>> Quick and dirty rendering. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> frank
>> 
>> 
>> "If the world were clear, art would not exist." -- Albert Camus
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Re: GESO: Blizzard aftermath

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Good to hear things are looking up. Arborvitae like people usually recover.

Paul via phone

On Feb 10, 2013, at 1:05 PM, David Parsons  wrote:

> We got at least 24 inches (hard to tell for sure with drifting) in
> Quincy (just south of Boston).  Lost power for 20 hours and
> cable/phone/internet for 22 hours.
> 
> Power came back about 20 minutes after I finished digging the car out.
> If it hadn't come back, we were going to find some place warm to go.
> The temp inside the house was 48 when we got power back.
> 
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> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8460458108/
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Re: War & Fashion

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On Feb 10, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

> http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/02/world/war-and-fashion/

Fascinating.  Thanks.

> 

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Re: War & Fashion

[Daniel J. Matyola]

A bit of a stretch can make for an interesting thesis, but that goes a
bit too far.

Some fine images, however.

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Re: PESO -- Major Snow Event(R)

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On 9/2/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>you should probably install the Inuit spellchecker. They've got shitloads of
>names for the stuff.

Bob, you've gone all 'country' ;-)

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Re: GESO: Blizzard aftermath

[Jack Davis]

Well documented, David. Nice exposures on a difficult subject.
 
Jack

From: David Parsons 
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Subject: GESO: Blizzard aftermath

We got at least 24 inches (hard to tell for sure with drifting) in
Quincy (just south of Boston).  Lost power for 20 hours and
cable/phone/internet for 22 hours.

Power came back about 20 minutes after I finished digging the car out.
If it hadn't come back, we were going to find some place warm to go.
The temp inside the house was 48 when we got power back.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8459347833/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8460452468/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8460454326/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8460455680/
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RE: PESO -- Major Snow Event(R)

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> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steve Cottrell
> 
> On 9/2/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >you should probably install the Inuit spellchecker. They've got
> >shitloads of names for the stuff.
> 
> Bob, you've gone all 'country' ;-)
> 

Yes, sorry. I meant 'a multiplicity of nomenclatures for the
aforementioned'.

B


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Re: GESO: Blizzard aftermath

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is a lot of snow!  Nice images as well.
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On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:05 PM, David Parsons  wrote:
> We got at least 24 inches (hard to tell for sure with drifting) in
> Quincy (just south of Boston).  Lost power for 20 hours and
> cable/phone/internet for 22 hours.
>
> Power came back about 20 minutes after I finished digging the car out.
>  If it hadn't come back, we were going to find some place warm to go.
> The temp inside the house was 48 when we got power back.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8459347833/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8460452468/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8460454326/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8460455680/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8460458108/
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Re: PESO - Thumbs Up

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Neither rain nor snow,  eh?

That is an effective image of the man and the conditions.
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On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:24 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
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> Thank you, Boris, and thanks to everyone else who commented and looked at the 
> photo.
>
> Days like Friday test a bike messenger's mettle but guys like Andrew make it 
> look easy.
>
> Glad you enjoyed!
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Boris Liberman 
> Sent: February 9, 2013 2/9/13
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: PESO - Thumbs Up
>
> Andrew certainly has short term prophetic powers... He knew that I will
> be giving you thumbs up for this shot, Frank... ;-)
>
> On 2/9/2013 2:39 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Geez, feels like I've been away forever!
>>
>> So anyway, like much of eastern North America we had a snow event
>> yesterday. Biggest snowfall in several years. I just couldn't do the
>> ten mile commute since the plows didn't do our part of the world as
>> of yesterday morning. We also have more snow than downtown.
>>
>> I did work, with a subway pass and walking. Gave me a chance to bring
>> camera.
>>
>> A few bikes got out.
>>
>> This is Andrew, having fun in the snow:
>>
>> http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/thumbs-up.html?m=1
>>
>> Quick and dirty rendering. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>>
>> Cheers, frank
>>
>>
>> "If the world were clear, art would not exist." -- Albert Camus
>>
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Re: PESO -- Major Snow Event?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I believe they termed it a Major snow event" because it doesn't really
meet the definition of a blizzard, yet "snow fall" falls short.
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>>>
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>>> time, any catchy names will grab eyeballs.  It's the same reason that
>>> the Weather Channel named the storm Nemo.
>>
>> Cue lawsuit from Disney :D
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Re: PAW--Week 6 2013

[Daniel J. Matyola]

SWEET!
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Re: War & Fashion

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On Feb 10, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> A bit of a stretch can make for an interesting thesis, but that goes a
> bit too far.

I bet that if you took the same photographers and had them cover sports and 
weddings as well, you would get a lot of the same parallels. 

In high school, I competed on the speech team, in improvisational speaking.  
One of the first tricks you learn is to have half a dozen canned speeches that 
you can modify and tune to a given topic.  I bet that photographers that 
photograph improvisational subjects, whether they realize it or not, have a 
tool kit of standard photographs and compositions that they know work, and can 
use or adapt to a situation, without having to start from scratch.  

I think that one of the biggest ways that the PDML has helped my photography is 
that it gives me the opportunity to steal the tool kits from some very good 
photographers. When I look at a scene, I can think about who I know that does 
well photographing that sort of subject, and think about what one of their 
photos would look. 


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Re: War & Fashion

[Bruce Walker]

A slow news day.

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Re: GESO: Blizzard aftermath

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

David Parsons  wrote:

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8459347833/

Do I see an amateur radio antenna in the background?

Ralf

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Re: GESO: Blizzard aftermath

[David Parsons]

Yep, my neighbor has a couple antennae, one of his many hobbies.

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>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8459347833/
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> Do I see an amateur radio antenna in the background?
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Re: PESO - Prepared for Battle (messenger content)

[kwaller]

knarF, have you seen any of the 'Fat Tire' bikes in use in the snow? They're 
a rather specialized bike built specifically for travel in snow, sand  or 
just plain bushwacking - radically large tire - typically 26X4.0" - and 
frame design to handle the larger tire. I first heard about them in Alaska 
and now they're gaining popularity in the lower 48, in fact there is a race 
series for them and a race was held recently in Traverse City area. This 
link is to one of many fat tire bike builders.

http://salsacycles.com/bikes/mukluk/

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Subject: PESO - Prepared for Battle (messenger content)


I didn't get nearly as many photos on Friday as I had hoped because (a) I 
was working and spent much of my time underground on the subway, and, (b) 
there were far fewer messengers on the road. Many clients were closed or 
closed early so the messengers spent a lot of "standing by".


This is the only "environmental portrait" I got. Jason's attire reminded 
me of armour, hence the title:


http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/jason.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank

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Re: PAW161 - Winter forest

[DagT]

5. feb. 2013 kl. 23:02 skrev Aahz Maruch :

> On Tue, Feb 05, 2013, Stan Halpin wrote:
>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 05, 2013, Doug Brewer wrote:
 On 2/3/13 3:11 PM, DagT wrote:
> 
> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
> Pentax K-5, DA*16-50mm, f/2.8, 1/50s, ISO100.
 
 +1
>>> 
>>> The thought occurs to me that anytime someone posts photos, it would be
>>> handy to post the original alongside (particularly for cropping
>>> comparison, but also any other changes).
>> 
>> Yes, but what is an "original"? If we shot a jpeg, it will be modified
>> at least through down-sizing for web-viewing. If we shot PEF, does
>> conversion to DNG make it not original? If DNG or DNG conversion, many
>> of us have some pre-set tweeks in exposure or sharpening or color
>> balance even before we start working on the resulting "original" to
>> get to the final edited image.
> 
> What I'd say is that manual edits are what make it "not original".
> Conversions and automatic profile changes don't count.  I just figured
> that if teaching/learning is supposed to be part of the point of posting
> photos (which it seems to be if people are asking for critiques), then
> having the original is handy to see what changes have already been made.

I see your point. If I wanted to teach, I might use it as an example, but on 
the other hand I think the result is important, not how I got there. 

There are many ways to see and make a picture. Once I felt how the contrast 
should be, there were a lot of different ways to get there. Just like, when I 
was there in the forest the forest itself was not important. It was what I 
wanted to show. Others would make something else, maybe better, but it wouldn´t 
fit with what I saw.

I have taught some photography. Teaching rules seldom get far. Seeing other 
pictures and wondering why I like or dislike them is a lot better.

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Re: War & Fashion

[kwaller]

Shoot enough images and they start to look alike.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: Re: War & Fashion



A bit of a stretch can make for an interesting thesis, but that goes a
bit too far.

Some fine images, however.

Dan Matyola
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PESO - Pretty Girls

[Paul Stenquist]

On the street in Birmingham this afternoon:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16898293&size=lg

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Re: PESO -- Major Snow Event?

[kwaller]

And here I thought they called it a major event like the major award (the 
leg lamp) in the 'Christmas Story'.


Dan, from what I heard, for the most part, the major event in the north east 
was in fact a blizzard - winds in the 70&80 mph range and several hours 
long. According to Wikipedia - the difference between a blizzard and a snow 
storm is not the amount of snow but the strength of the wind.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: Re: PESO -- Major Snow Event?



I believe they termed it a Major snow event" because it doesn't really
meet the definition of a blizzard, yet "snow fall" falls short.
Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:05 AM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013, David Mann wrote:
On Feb 10, 2013, at 3:22 PM, David Parsons  
wrote:


I blame the 24 hour news cycle.  When you need to fill programming
time, any catchy names will grab eyeballs.  It's the same reason that
the Weather Channel named the storm Nemo.


Cue lawsuit from Disney :D


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Re: PAW161 - Winter forest

[DagT]

Thanks to the rest of you as well, Paul, knarf, Boris, Dave.

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10. feb. 2013 kl. 17:05 skrev Paul Stenquist :

> Love this one. Bet it looks great as a large print.
> Paul
> On Feb 10, 2013, at 10:58 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> Brilliant photo!
>> 
>> cheers,
>> frank
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>> --- Original Message ---
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>> From: Boris Liberman 
>> Sent: February 10, 2013 2/10/13
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>> Subject: Re: PAW161 - Winter forest
>> 
>> It is impossibly good photograph... I cannot probably "hate" you enough, 
>> Dag :-).
>> 
>> On 2/3/2013 10:11 PM, DagT wrote:
>>> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
>>> Pentax K-5, DA*16-50mm, f/2.8, 1/50s, ISO100.
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PESO - Proud Parents

[Paul Stenquist]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16898335

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Re: PESO - Pretty Girls

[kwaller]

Nice catch, great exposure.

And people say they don't like cat shots - at least few cats are not made up 
like these barkers. And it appears they were even in a stroller!


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Subject: PESO - Pretty Girls



On the street in Birmingham this afternoon:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16898293&size=lg

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Re: PESO -- Major Snow Event?

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Blizzards are characterized by high winds. Traditionally sustained winds of 50 
km/h (30 mph) were required along with heavy snow.

Now the measure is visibility - a combination of winds and snow that limits 
visibility to 400 metres or yards is a blizzard.

I guess my problem with the whole "snow event " nomenclature is that we had a 
perfectly useful and universally understood name for what eastern North America 
just experienced: a "winter storm". "Snow event " seems like more of the 
CNN-ization of our culture.

Silly, but I'm not going to lose a lot of sleep over it.

;-)

Cheers,
frank

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Subject: Re: PESO -- Major Snow Event?

I believe they termed it a Major snow event" because it doesn't really
meet the definition of a blizzard, yet "snow fall" falls short.
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>> On Feb 10, 2013, at 3:22 PM, David Parsons  wrote:
>>>
>>> I blame the 24 hour news cycle.  When you need to fill programming
>>> time, any catchy names will grab eyeballs.  It's the same reason that
>>> the Weather Channel named the storm Nemo.
>>
>> Cue lawsuit from Disney :D
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PAW162 - Oslo Court House

[DagT]

http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
Fujifilm x100, 1/10s, f/2.0, ISO800

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Re: PESO - Pretty Girls

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Ken. Yeah, a little over the top. But the couple wheeling them around in 
the stroller weren't the least bit embarrassed, and seemed pleased that I 
wanted to shoot their brood. I suspect these babes would b happier walking.

On Feb 10, 2013, at 3:41 PM,  wrote:

> Nice catch, great exposure.
> 
> And people say they don't like cat shots - at least few cats are not made up 
> like these barkers. And it appears they were even in a stroller!
> 
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> Subject: PESO - Pretty Girls
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> 
>> On the street in Birmingham this afternoon:
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>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16898293&size=lg
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RE: PAW161 - Winter forest

[Bob W]

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of DagT
> 
> >
> > http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
> > Pentax K-5, DA*16-50mm, f/2.8, 1/50s, ISO100.
> 
>  +1
> >>>
> >>> The thought occurs to me that anytime someone posts photos, it
> would
> >>> be handy to post the original alongside (particularly for cropping
> >>> comparison, but also any other changes).
> >>
> >> Yes, but what is an "original"? If we shot a jpeg, it will be
[...]

> I see your point. If I wanted to teach, I might use it as an example,
> but on the other hand I think the result is important, not how I got
> there.
> 

one of the things that we have lost, and it is a loss, with digital
photography is the contact sheet. Professional photographers were almost
always happy to share their contacts with others. They were a way of getting
to know the thought processes that went into the end result. They were like
preliminary sketches for a painting, and are just as useful. 

Of course, some photographers and some painters - Michelangelo is a good
example - didn't want people to see their contacts and sketches, they would
rather people thought their finished article was something miraculous that
sprang forth from their native genius fully formed.

> There are many ways to see and make a picture. Once I felt how the
> contrast should be, there were a lot of different ways to get there.
> Just like, when I was there in the forest the forest itself was not
> important. It was what I wanted to show. Others would make something
> else, maybe better, but it wouldn´t fit with what I saw.
> 
> I have taught some photography. Teaching rules seldom get far. Seeing
> other pictures and wondering why I like or dislike them is a lot
> better.
> 

People frequently misunderstand the word 'rule' in respect to composition,
grammar, and so on. A rule in this sense is just a statistical observation,
in the same way as, for example, the 'law' of gravity. The rule of thirds is
just an observation that people tend to prefer pictures composed this way.
If you apply some discipline to figuring out what you like and why, you will
discover some rules that work for you, and the chances are that they will
work for others too.

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RE: PESO -- Major Snow Event?

[Bob W]

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> 
> Blizzards are characterized by high winds. Traditionally sustained
> winds of 50 km/h (30 mph) were required along with heavy snow.
> 
> Now the measure is visibility - a combination of winds and snow that
> limits visibility to 400 metres or yards is a blizzard.
> 
> I guess my problem with the whole "snow event " nomenclature is that we
> had a perfectly useful and universally understood name for what eastern
> North America just experienced: a "winter storm". "Snow event " seems
> like more of the CNN-ization of our culture.
> 
> Silly, but I'm not going to lose a lot of sleep over it.
> 

I think you mean there will be no significant reduction in sleep events.

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Re: PESO -- Major Snow Event?

[kwaller]

Silly, but I'm not going to lose a lot of sleep over it.



I think you mean there will be no significant reduction in sleep events.


So there will be no major sleep event.`


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Subject: RE: PESO -- Major Snow Event?





From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of

Blizzards are characterized by high winds. Traditionally sustained
winds of 50 km/h (30 mph) were required along with heavy snow.

Now the measure is visibility - a combination of winds and snow that
limits visibility to 400 metres or yards is a blizzard.

I guess my problem with the whole "snow event " nomenclature is that we
had a perfectly useful and universally understood name for what eastern
North America just experienced: a "winter storm". "Snow event " seems
like more of the CNN-ization of our culture.

Silly, but I'm not going to lose a lot of sleep over it.



I think you mean there will be no significant reduction in sleep events.

B



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PESO Moon Shots (was Re: PESO Hawk in Flight)

[Aahz Maruch]

On Sun, Feb 03, 2013, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> It was a fun afternoon hanging out with John and Aahz.  After lunch I
> suggested playing with cameras at Coyote Creek park because there is
> often interesting wildlife there.  Of course it didn't really come out
> to play until we were leaving.

Fun for me, too!  And I appreciate all the advice and play time!

While I'm working on sorting through the photos, I figure I might as
well put up some old shots (I suppose this is technically GESO, but it's
all different exposures of the same shot):

http://rule6.info/photos/critique/moon/

I'm curious which shot(s) people like best -- and why.  This was a quick
experiment in long exposures (I noticed the moon peeking through the
trees and ran in to get my A710 and tripod).  The shots are nothing to
write home about, but might be suitable for postcards.
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Re: PAW162 - Oslo Court House

[Bruce Walker]

Very nice. The skateboarder totally makes it.

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> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
> Fujifilm x100, 1/10s, f/2.0, ISO800
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GESO - Snow Crystals

[Mark C]

Again with the snow crystals. Just 3 from last weekend:

http://markcassino.com/b2evolution/

Permalink:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/three-more-february-snow-crystals

The post before this one has 12 new crystals - didn't GESO that but it's 
there for the looking.


Cheers -

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Re: PESO Moon Shots (was Re: PESO Hawk in Flight)

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 10, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

> While I'm working on sorting through the photos, I figure I might as
> well put up some old shots (I suppose this is technically GESO, but it's
> all different exposures of the same shot):
> 
> http://rule6.info/photos/critique/moon/
> 
> I'm curious which shot(s) people like best -- and why.  This was a quick
> experiment in long exposures (I noticed the moon peeking through the
> trees and ran in to get my A710 and tripod).  The shots are nothing to
> write home about, but might be suitable for postcards.

To be honest, none of them work.  The problem is one of dynamic range.  The 
moon is in full sunshine, so it's pretty much the sunny 16 rule:

f/16 at 1/ISO for the shutter speed.

The trees are completely backlit and need hella exposure.  Not even the mighty 
K-5 can handle this much dynamic range.As you can see, by the time you 
crank up enough exposure to make out the leaves, the moon is completely blown 
out, showing every glare and reflection in the lens.  You might as well shoot 
the leaves against a daytime sky.

One option would be to take two exposures, one set for the moon, one set for 
the trees, and combine them in photoshop. This technique is called HDR, for 
High Dynamic Range.  It's usually misused and abused to create garishly tacky 
images, but there are uses for it.

Another technique would  involve using a strobe or something to light the 
trees.  But do note that even your darkest exposure has the moon so completely 
blown out that there is nothing of interest there.  

Another thing you could do, is shooting raw take an exposure somewhere between 
the two, and using lightroom, push the contrast as hard as you can, darken the 
blacks, whiten the whites and go for a shadow image.

In reality, there are some photo that simply don't work, and I'm afraid this is 
one, or possibly ten, of them.  Also, in cases like this, the important info is 
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Re: GESO - Snow Crystals

[Rob Studdert]

On 11 February 2013 10:50, Mark C  wrote:
> Again with the snow crystals. Just 3 from last weekend:
>
> http://markcassino.com/b2evolution/

Great work Mark, a subject matter that I find difficult to identify with :)

Do you or have you used polarized light and filters to shoot crystals
before, I would assume that you would also then be able to see the
internal stresses in the crystals too?

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Re: GESO - Snow Crystals

[Paul Stenquist]

Superb, as always. In fact, better than always. A wow.

Paul
On Feb 10, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Mark C  wrote:

> Again with the snow crystals. Just 3 from last weekend:
> 
> http://markcassino.com/b2evolution/
> 
> Permalink:
> 
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/three-more-february-snow-crystals
> 
> The post before this one has 12 new crystals - didn't GESO that but it's 
> there for the looking.
> 
> Cheers -
> 
> Mark
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Re: GESO - Snow Crystals

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 10, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Mark C wrote:

> Again with the snow crystals. Just 3 from last weekend:
> 
> http://markcassino.com/b2evolution/

If I didn't know better, I'd think you knew what you were doing.  You must have 
a really good camera!


> 
> Permalink:
> 
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/three-more-february-snow-crystals
> 
> The post before this one has 12 new crystals - didn't GESO that but it's 
> there for the looking.

Awesome job.  You can make even cold weather seem appealing.

How big are they?  Inches across or millimeters?


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Re: At least they didn't shoot me

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 10, 2013, at 10:21 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> Just reading about this now, Larry.
> 
> Quite the harrowing experience! Glad you survived intact.
> 
> A $25 gift certificate from the cafeteria seems like minimal compensation for 
> your ordeal. Is the food at least good there?

It's not bad.  It's better than most restaurants at the same price.  Thursday, 
while they were cooking my burger I noticed some surprisingly tasty looking 
sushi, and was planning on that for Friday, and it turns out that it was not a 
regular item.  Oh well.  

I have, however, since found the place to photograph planes.  The parking lot 
of the Lowe's, and the In-n-Out burger across the street from the airport, 
pretty much even with the end of the runway, a few hundred meters off to the 
side.


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RE: War & Fashion

[John Sessoms]

From: Aahz Maruch


http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/02/world/war-and-fashion/


Doesn't really work for me.

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K20D hot pixel cluster

[John Sessoms]

I mentioned this several months ago, but didn't get any response. I 
thought I'd bring it up again.


I've got a problem with a cluster of hot pixels on my K20D. It manifests 
as a large white (or black ???) spot in the image.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/8462668719

Taking a look at the cluster in high magnification, it appears there are 
150+ pixels affected.


It's there in EVERY image, although it seems to get worse with long 
exposures. I haven't experimented to see if high ISO makes it worse as 
well. With long exposures, the hot pixel cluster is accompanied by a hot 
strip that extends completely across the image frame.


The cluster is reasonably easily handled in Photoshop, but the hot strip 
is a genuine pain in the ass to clean out without leaving obvious traces.


Any thoughts on whether pixel mapping is going to make the problem 
worse? I've thought about sending it off the Pentax service, but I don't 
know if that would do any good or whether it would be worth the cost.


Do you suppose it's worth anything as parts?

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Re: PESO - Prepared for Battle (messenger content)

[Rick Womer]

He's out of his freakin' mind to be bicycling in that stuff.  It's a nice, very 
graphic shot, though.

Rick





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Subject: PESO - Prepared for Battle (messenger content)

I didn't get nearly as many photos on Friday as I had hoped because (a) I was 
working and spent much of my time underground on the subway, and, (b) there 
were far fewer messengers on the road. Many clients were closed or closed early 
so the messengers spent a lot of "standing by".

This is the only "environmental portrait" I got. Jason's attire reminded me of 
armour, hence the title:

http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/jason.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO Moon Shots (was Re: PESO Hawk in Flight)

[P. J. Alling]

All of your moon shots have the moon over exposed. The brightness range 
is really too great to get anything except the moon properly exposed or 
get the rest of the shot with some kind of correct exposure and let the 
moon's exposure fall where it may. Those are your choices unless you're 
looking to do some kind of composite image or some extreme form of HDR.


On 2/10/2013 5:43 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Sun, Feb 03, 2013, Larry Colen wrote:

It was a fun afternoon hanging out with John and Aahz.  After lunch I
suggested playing with cameras at Coyote Creek park because there is
often interesting wildlife there.  Of course it didn't really come out
to play until we were leaving.

Fun for me, too!  And I appreciate all the advice and play time!

While I'm working on sorting through the photos, I figure I might as
well put up some old shots (I suppose this is technically GESO, but it's
all different exposures of the same shot):

http://rule6.info/photos/critique/moon/

I'm curious which shot(s) people like best -- and why.  This was a quick
experiment in long exposures (I noticed the moon peeking through the
trees and ran in to get my A710 and tripod).  The shots are nothing to
write home about, but might be suitable for postcards.



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GESO: Blizzard at my house & a question re: cameras in winter

[Christine Nielsen]

Hi all,

The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action
around here.  I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel,
thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than
I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did
consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes...

Anyway, a few shots here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/

Now for my question...
I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold
with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc & then let it come to room
temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc.  All
in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the
camera & messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder:
1) How many of you do this?
2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this "less necessary"?
Especially when combined with a WR lens...?

Thanks for your thoughts...
:)
-c

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Re: GESO: Blizzard aftermath

[Christine Nielsen]

Dave, your arborvitae looks pretty good... mine is bent in half, and
buried in a snowdrift.  I hope this is the storm that finally kills
it.  ;)

Glad you are back on the grid.  Going pioneer-style loses its charm
pretty quick when the house gets that cold.

:)
-c

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:05 PM, David Parsons  wrote:
> We got at least 24 inches (hard to tell for sure with drifting) in
> Quincy (just south of Boston).  Lost power for 20 hours and
> cable/phone/internet for 22 hours.
>
> Power came back about 20 minutes after I finished digging the car out.
>  If it hadn't come back, we were going to find some place warm to go.
> The temp inside the house was 48 when we got power back.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8459347833/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8460452468/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8460454326/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8460455680/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8460458108/
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Re: PESO - Proud Parents

[David Mann]

On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16898335

I can't help but think of dingoes.

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Re: PESO - Proud Parents

[Christine Nielsen]

Oh, brother...!

:)
-c

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> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16898335
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Re: PESO - Prepared for Battle (messenger content)

[Christine Nielsen]

I like it, but... Brrr!  For bike messengers, I bet every day on the
city streets is a battle, and the snow is just another opponent.  Are
those shorts he's wearing?

:)
-c

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:39 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> I didn't get nearly as many photos on Friday as I had hoped because (a) I was 
> working and spent much of my time underground on the subway, and, (b) there 
> were far fewer messengers on the road. Many clients were closed or closed 
> early so the messengers spent a lot of "standing by".
>
> This is the only "environmental portrait" I got. Jason's attire reminded me 
> of armour, hence the title:
>
>  http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/jason.html?m=1
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: PESO Moon Shots (was Re: PESO Hawk in Flight)

[John Sessoms]

From: Larry Colen


On Feb 10, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:


While I'm working on sorting through the photos, I figure I might
as well put up some old shots (I suppose this is technically GESO,
but it's all different exposures of the same shot):

http://rule6.info/photos/critique/moon/

I'm curious which shot(s) people like best -- and why.  This was a
quick experiment in long exposures (I noticed the moon peeking
through the trees and ran in to get my A710 and tripod).  The shots
are nothing to write home about, but might be suitable for
postcards.


To be honest, none of them work.  The problem is one of dynamic
range.  The moon is in full sunshine, so it's pretty much the sunny
16 rule:

f/16 at 1/ISO for the shutter speed.


Using the sunny 16 rule gives you an 18% gray moon. Try f/11 @ 1/ISO. 
Just for luck, try f/11 +1/3 and f/11 +2/3 at 1/ISO. One of those 
exposures will give you a moon that is just right.


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Should I take film to Cyprus?

[D. Glenn Arthur Jr.]

Alas, I have fallen way, way behind this mailing list and another.  Sorry
for being absent and for having missed so much of what y'all have been
discussing.

In April, my mother is going back to Cyprus for what she thinks will be
her last time, and taking me along for what will probably be my only 
time (I was there as a toddler; don't remember it; doesn't count) -- I
can't see ever being able to afford to go on my own.

I'm taking the *istD, extra batteries, extra CF cards, a computer to 
copy the CF cards onto ...

Here's the question:  given that I've shot very little film recently
(only for a wedding I was paid to shoot a year or two ago) and I _still_
have lots of exposed film in my freezer waiting for funds for developing,
do y'all think I should take a film body or two with me anyhow?

My gut says yes, I might see something I want on ilm instead of digital
for some unforseen  reason.  My brain says don't over-pack, and digital
means not having to carry multiple bodies loaded with different kinds
of film.  And Murphy whispers "backup camera" since I only have the one
DSLR.

(If I have any unexposed infrared film left in the fridge, that'll tip
the balance somewhat in favour of bringing the K2 or an H1a.  Even as
early as April, I should have plenty to shoot in IR in the Mediterranean,
right?)

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Re: PESO -- Major Snow Event?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Perhaps, but a lot of "winter storms" in the Northeast US are ice or
sleet storms, rather than snow storms.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:41 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Blizzards are characterized by high winds. Traditionally sustained winds of 
> 50 km/h (30 mph) were required along with heavy snow.
>
> Now the measure is visibility - a combination of winds and snow that limits 
> visibility to 400 metres or yards is a blizzard.
>
> I guess my problem with the whole "snow event " nomenclature is that we had a 
> perfectly useful and universally understood name for what eastern North 
> America just experienced: a "winter storm". "Snow event " seems like more of 
> the CNN-ization of our culture.

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Re: Should I take film to Cyprus?

[Aahz Maruch]

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:
>
> Alas, I have fallen way, way behind this mailing list and another.  Sorry
> for being absent and for having missed so much of what y'all have been
> discussing.

  Fancy meeting you here.  ;->

> My gut says yes, I might see something I want on ilm instead of digital
> for some unforseen  reason.  My brain says don't over-pack, and digital
> means not having to carry multiple bodies loaded with different kinds
> of film.  And Murphy whispers "backup camera" since I only have the one
> DSLR.

Well, I really really love my Nikon P7100.  I think a high-end P&S is a
good answer to the question about overpacking.

http://rule6.info/photos/P7100/
http://rule6.info/photos/critique/milagra/

(Latter is a work-in-progress GESO I'm posting so you can see pics.)
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Some slide film advice?

[Zos Xavius]

I'm going to run a roll of velvia 100  that someone handed me the other day 
through my zx-7. I will probably do nothing but mostly tripod landscapes and 
what not. Since I will likely  be  using an older 50mm mostly, I will just have 
center weighted metering at my disposal. I know that for slide film you expose 
mostly for highlights since there is less latitude there. I guess I'm asking, 
should I just have enough faith in that meter and try to center more on the sky 
and lock and recompose? I could also use the k-5 to spot meter since I would 
likely have it with me. I just don't have enough of a feel for this zx-7 as I 
still have a decent amount of tri-x waiting to be developed. I think I am going 
to try duplicating a few shots with the k-5 so I can compare digital vs slide 
film. I also have some kodak porta vc pro 160. I'm guessing that can still be 
developed, though I know its out of production if I heard correctly. I will 
probably start with the porta first. My experience with film
is very limited since I started purely in digital years ago. I see there are 
some film shooters here so I thought I would ask. With the digital cameras I 
can spot meter if it is critical. No option for that here. I kind of love the 
challenge of filma 67 would be a lot of fun so I'm looking at playing a bit 
more with 35mm before I make the jump to 120.

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PESO 2013 - Robot II First Roll - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I took my walk on Saturday with my latest in camera acquisitions in my hands: a 
vintage 1941 Robot II. One of the challenges of using this camera was figuring 
out how to scan the 24x24mm format negatives efficiently. Took a bit of trial 
and error, but I got VueScan to drive the Nikon Coolscan V film scanner just 
right, to the point where I can scan a seven frame strip in less than ten 
minutes. 

I'm pleased with how this first roll has come out. This is the unedited scan 
index sheet: 

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8464414230/lightbox

The camera is a delight to use. Wind it up and you can shoot up to a dozen or 
more exposures as fast as you can press the shutter release. Great for 
capturing those fast moving facial expressions and moving subjects. I'm going 
to have a lot of fun with it. 

enjoy!

Godfrey
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Re: Should I take film to Cyprus?

[Zos Xavius]

I say do it. The shots you take with the film will have to count a lot more and 
you will be forced to take more time. If your budget is low, you probably don't 
have many other options anyways. What do you have to lose? This is a once in a 
lifetime opputunity, have some fun with it.

Aahz Maruch  wrote:

>On Mon, Feb 11, 2013, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:
>>
>> Alas, I have fallen way, way behind this mailing list and another. 
>Sorry
>> for being absent and for having missed so much of what y'all have
>been
>> discussing.
>
>  Fancy meeting you here.  ;->
>
>> My gut says yes, I might see something I want on ilm instead of
>digital
>> for some unforseen  reason.  My brain says don't over-pack, and
>digital
>> means not having to carry multiple bodies loaded with different kinds
>> of film.  And Murphy whispers "backup camera" since I only have the
>one
>> DSLR.
>
>Well, I really really love my Nikon P7100.  I think a high-end P&S is a
>good answer to the question about overpacking.
>
>http://rule6.info/photos/P7100/
>http://rule6.info/photos/critique/milagra/
>
>(Latter is a work-in-progress GESO I'm posting so you can see pics.)


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Re: Should I take film to Cyprus?

[Zos Xavius]

Just take one film body and supplement it with your dslr when lighting no 
longer matches your film speed. Or get an mz-s and reload rolls at will. :)

Aahz Maruch  wrote:

>On Mon, Feb 11, 2013, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:
>>
>> Alas, I have fallen way, way behind this mailing list and another. 
>Sorry
>> for being absent and for having missed so much of what y'all have
>been
>> discussing.
>
>  Fancy meeting you here.  ;->
>
>> My gut says yes, I might see something I want on ilm instead of
>digital
>> for some unforseen  reason.  My brain says don't over-pack, and
>digital
>> means not having to carry multiple bodies loaded with different kinds
>> of film.  And Murphy whispers "backup camera" since I only have the
>one
>> DSLR.
>
>Well, I really really love my Nikon P7100.  I think a high-end P&S is a
>good answer to the question about overpacking.
>
>http://rule6.info/photos/P7100/
>http://rule6.info/photos/critique/milagra/
>
>(Latter is a work-in-progress GESO I'm posting so you can see pics.)


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Re: GESO - Snow Crystals

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Sparkling gems!
Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> Again with the snow crystals. Just 3 from last weekend:
>
> http://markcassino.com/b2evolution/
>
> Permalink:
>
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/three-more-february-snow-crystals
>
> The post before this one has 12 new crystals - didn't GESO that but it's
> there for the looking.
>
> Cheers -
>
> Mark
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Re: PAW162 - Oslo Court House

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Very stately.
Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:42 PM, DagT  wrote:
> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
> Fujifilm x100, 1/10s, f/2.0, ISO800
>
> DagT
> http://www.thrane.name/
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RE: Some slide film advice?

[John Coyle]

I'd opt for focus, meter and recompose if you're going to use centre-weighted 
metering, but a lot
depends on the type of sky you will have.  I used to find that a clear blue sky 
did not need any
adjustment to CW-metering, whereas a sky with clouds would probably need some 
adjustment.  Why not
bracket?   Does the ZX7 not allow any other form of metering (it's so long 
since I sold my ZX5 I
can't recall it's metering modes).

HTH
John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Zos Xavius
Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013 4:05 PM
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Subject: Some slide film advice?

I'm going to run a roll of velvia 100  that someone handed me the other day 
through my zx-7. I will
probably do nothing but mostly tripod landscapes and what not. Since I will 
likely  be  using an
older 50mm mostly, I will just have center weighted metering at my disposal. I 
know that for slide
film you expose mostly for highlights since there is less latitude there. I 
guess I'm asking, should
I just have enough faith in that meter and try to center more on the sky and 
lock and recompose? I
could also use the k-5 to spot meter since I would likely have it with me. I 
just don't have enough
of a feel for this zx-7 as I still have a decent amount of tri-x waiting to be 
developed. I think I
am going to try duplicating a few shots with the k-5 so I can compare digital 
vs slide film. I also
have some kodak porta vc pro 160. I'm guessing that can still be developed, 
though I know its out of
production if I heard correctly. I will probably start with the porta first. My 
experience wi  th
film is very limited since I started purely in digital years ago. I see there 
are some film shooters
here so I thought I would ask. With the digital cameras I can spot meter if it 
is critical. No
option for that here. I kind of love the challenge of filma 67 would be a 
lot of fun so I'm
looking at playing a bit more with 35mm before I make the jump to 120.

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