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On 3/27/2014 12:05 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Mar 27, 2014, at 2:03 pm, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:


This weekend I installed Ubuntu on my scanning PC - tonight I finally fired up 
the scanner running the linux version of VueScan and it is churning away, batch 
scanning 12 35mm exposures. Great!

So far this meets all my main goals -

- Dual Boot with WinXp so I can run old NikonScan and Canon Filmget programs.

Any reason you're not using Virtualbox?  That'll save you having to dual boot.  
I don't know what hardware interface you're using for the scanners but it's 
possible to capture USB devices.  Firewire isn't supported.  Don't know about 
SCSI.

I'm not much help with your questions, I only use Linux for server-side stuff :)

Cheers,
Dave


Thanks, Dave - I actually didn't know about Virtual box so that's one 
reason...  But on the hardware side the Nikon scanner is Firewire and 
backup Canoscan is either USB 1.1 or SCSI (when I used it I used SCSI). 
So the hardware issues moved me to put the scanner on a separate 
machine. I have not yet tested the SCSI card in Ubuntu.


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Re: OT:Linux

Thanks - I will check out Darktable. I will be doing serious editing on 
another computer with Photoshop, but like to be able to check scans and 
see if I need to tweak settings etc. So I really just need something 
that is functional. I just kept a copy of PS CS3 on the XP box.  I scan 
at 16 bits (especially for BW) and that is the major stumbling block.


Mark

On 3/27/2014 1:34 AM, Brian Walters wrote:


It's been a few years since I dabbled with Linux, although I still 
have Ubuntu 804 and Kubuntu 1110 available in VirtualBox.


I understand that Darktable has become an effective Photo editor with 
RAW support.  No first hand experience, though - but probably worth 
checking out.


http://www.darktable.org/





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Re: OT:Linux


On 3/27/2014 2:48 AM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote:

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

This weekend I installed Ubuntu on my scanning PC - tonight I finally fired
up the scanner running the linux version of VueScan and it is churning away,
batch scanning 12 35mm exposures. Great!

 Huray!  Welcome to the Linux world!

 However I would love to hear your feedback on your experience with
Linux for photography, thus keep us (or at least me :) ) posted on
this topic.
Thanks - it was really quite a simple install, easier than when I last 
installed XP. The PC is ~10 years old and I expected to have to hunt for 
drivers, but aside from the the screen resolution issue it went perfectly.



After installing Unbuntu I learned that there are several other linux builds
out there. Is there one better suited for photo processing?

 To directly answer your question of which Linux distribution is
better suited for photo processing, I don't think there is such a
distribution out there, although I guess Ubuntu fits the bill. ...


I will probably stick with this one... I noticed that there were 
versions Ubuntu and Kubuntu (?) that were tweak very specifically - e.g. 
a Bioscience version, a multimedia version (video editing, I think) 
etc... I was hoping there might be a photographers version!





   Are there any good LInux Photo Editors out there?  I am scanning BW and
need something that support 16 bit gray scale, which I think excludes Gimp.
 To my knowledge there is no stable (and open-source) 16 bit
image editor for Linux.  There is however CinePaint which is a GIMP
fork (?) to support 16 bit image manipulation:
http://www.cinepaint.org/ , however I haven't used it thus I can't say
much about it.

 For RAW processing --- which you could try to use with your 16 bit
TIFF --- I can recommend RawTherapee (the one I use, although there
are others like Darktable), and there was discussion about this in
July 2013 with the subject: `Linux RAW editor/manager? (was Re: OT -
Lightzone Open Source Photo Editor (Windows, Linux))`.  The following
is my reply regarding Darktable and RawTherapee:

   http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2013-July/351722.html


 Related to this topic, I've made a list of software related to
photography (which run on Linux, that I have used, and that I can
recommend):

   
http://wiki.volution.ro/CiprianDorinCraciun/Notes/Public/Photography/Software

 Looking at ArchLinux's wiki it seems they have an even more
comprehensive list:

   
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications/Multimedia#Image
Thanks! Lots of good option to try there! I will dig up the old thread 
in the archives



Can anyone recommend a primer on Linux?

 I think the best place to start is the distribution's tutorial /
documentation / wiki, and any of the previously mentioned
distributions have good documentation (or wiki).  Unfortunately in the
Linux world things move very fast, especially when it comes to desktop
environments and tools, thus books tend to stay behind.
I've been trying to wrap my head around the basic design of Linux - 
thinks like sudo and chmod were totally alien to me. Ditto with the 
different command prompts based on the status of user permissions. Makes 
sense one you unravel it but it is not intuitive, to me at least.  
Starting to get an understanding of it The only program I actually 
installed myself - VueScan - is sitting in the downloads folder. So even 
things like figuring out where to install programs is a mystery (I 
assume they should go somewhere in the usr folder...) But part of my 
motivation for using this was to learn it in hopes of someday 
unshackling from Windows completely.


Thanks again

Mark


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Re: OT:Linux


On 3/27/2014 5:33 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

Are there any good LInux Photo Editors out there?  I am scanning BW and need 
something that support 16 bit gray scale, which I think excludes Gimp.

You may want to check out bibble, though I see that they are now part of corel:
http://www.bibblelabs.com/

Six years ago the other big stumbling block was monitor calibration, though it 
seems to be much better now.  I’m afraid that when the dust settles, it’s very 
hard to beat lightroom.

Thanks, Larry - another one I will be sure to check out.



Can anyone recommend a primer on Linux?  I able to get around DOS pretty well 
and the command line interface is similar, but when I try to do things like 
install software I am more or less aping what I read with no real comprehension 
(well, what else in new….)

Try to find a local Linux users group. They can be very helpful.   I think I 
may have just tossed out the first several years of the Linux Journal, but 
their online presence may be very helpful.

Two commands that you want to learn are
“man” and “apropos”.

man commandname
will give you the manual page for the command “commandname”.  So, a good place 
to start is
man man
you will also want to try
man apt-get

apropos searchterm
will list all commands that have “searchterm” in their summary.  So, try typing
apropos apt
Thanks - those will surely be helpful. The command line structure can be 
a little cryptic, to say the least...


What it really does is a command called “grep”, which is a little arcane and 
amazingly powerful.  It prints out any lines that match the search string you 
type in. Actually the “regular expression”.

There were some incredibly helpful tutorials on unix etc dating back to the 
70’s. The best suggestion I can make is if you can find someone locally to just 
give you a hands on guided tour.  For what it’s worth, just about anything that 
you learn for the command prompt (bash) on Linux, also works on the Mac command 
prompt.

For what it’s worth, I think I just recently hit my 20 year mark of running 
Linux.
I have read about grep and will have to give it a try. Good suggestion 
about looking for a hands on guide - there might even be a class around 
here I could take (actually hadn't thought about that...)


Thanks again -

Mark


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Re: Recommendations for a Third party K-5 battery

2014-03-27 Thread Carlos R.


El 27/03/2014 2:33, P.J. Alling escribió:

I though the K20D battery took a long time to fully charge.

Started to do some research and then decided ask the people who know.


I have a Meike battery grip for my K-7 (it is the same model for the 
K-5, as they share the same camera body). It works well and it is well 
built (for a knockoff). The only disadvantage is that it is not weather 
sealed as the original Pentax. It also comes with an adpater for 6 AA 
batteries, besides of the adapter for DL-90 lithium battery. It was 
quite cheap, about 35 euros.


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Re: K-3 and CS3 fail


On 26/03/2014 10:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

A friend tells me the DGN's from his new K-3 can't be processed in CS3.
Any suggestions???
Regards,  Bob S.

Tell him to set the camera for DNG rather than PEF. His K3 DNGs have to 
work in CS3. I was able to process K3 DNGs in CS (though it took a 
while, slow computer, big files).


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Re: K-3 and CS3 fail

2014-03-27 Thread David J Brooks

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 26/03/2014 10:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 A friend tells me the DGN's from his new K-3 can't be processed in CS3.
 Any suggestions???
 Regards,  Bob S.

 Tell him to set the camera for DNG rather than PEF. His K3 DNGs have to work
 in CS3. I was able to process K3 DNGs in CS (though it took a while, slow
 computer, big files).

My version of PSCS reads the K-5 DNG's fine

Dave

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Re: Recommendations for a Third party K-5 battery

2014-03-27 Thread Boris Liberman

I don't think that saving few pennies on the battery and then
accidentally having to deal with the issues that may arise is worth
it. I had some 3rd party batteries for my K10D, one was really weak,
another was satisfactory. But since I upgraded to K-7 I resolved to
use OEM batteries only. No regrets here.

The same by the way applies to the battery grip. The 3rd party grip
turned out to be not very well made as far as electronics went. So
again I have OEM grip and it is performing flawlessly...

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:33 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 I though the K20D battery took a long time to fully charge.

 Started to do some research and then decided ask the people who know.


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The use of Canned gas for cleaning sensors

One of the things that will turn grown men into mewling kittens is any 
mention of using canned gas as a dust removing method for cameras.


Don't do it, they say, it is instant death for your camera. Sometimes so 
stridently that one would think they were having kittens.


But really, how unsafe is it? What is the very worst case scenario? How 
about a blast of liquid straight from the can?


I invite you to watch a  short 1 minute (very amateur) video. The white 
blast at the 15 second mark is a blast from an upside down canned gas 
container being unloaded into the mirror box of a Pentax *istD camera.


The camera suffered absolutely no ill effects from this abuse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI3rk1sAPxc

as always, have fun.

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Re: Tried IR but want something different?

Fascinating images, Dave, especially that motorcycle and the
high-heeled foot. Thanks for sharing!


On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:03 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:
 Doctors might say meh but it looks quite interesting to me.

 http://proof.nationalgeographic.com/2014/01/21/hugh-turvey-inside-the-life-of-an-x-ray-artist/

 Cheers,
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Re: Recommendations for a Third party K-5 battery


On 27/03/2014 7:58 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

I don't think that saving few pennies on the battery and then
accidentally having to deal with the issues that may arise is worth
it. I had some 3rd party batteries for my K10D, one was really weak,
another was satisfactory. But since I upgraded to K-7 I resolved to
use OEM batteries only. No regrets here.

The same by the way applies to the battery grip. The 3rd party grip
turned out to be not very well made as far as electronics went. So
again I have OEM grip and it is performing flawlessly...



I felt the same way, but last year I wanted to have a few extra 
batteries for an extended trip where I wouldn't have reliable access to 
electricity. The Fuji especially is a battery hog, getting at best a few 
hundred shots on a battery, so I bit the bullet and bought a couple of 
aftermarket batteries for the Pentax and 3 for the Fuji. My net outlay 
was about 1/3 of the cost of OEM batteries, and the dealer is in Canada 
so if there are problems I can resolve them without having the hassle of 
dealing with a foreign company.
The end result is that I have 5 extra batteries for my cameras that are 
indistiguishable in performance from their OEM cousins.
The Fuji batteries are listed as a couple of hundred milli amps lower 
capacity, but I haven't noticed a performance difference. The new Fuji 
is a battery hog, I will probably buy a few more batteries for it. At 
best, I get a couple of hundred shots on a battery with it.


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Re: Recommendations for a Third party K-5 battery

2014-03-27 Thread Carlos R.


El 27/03/2014 2:33, P.J. Alling escribió:

I though the K20D battery took a long time to fully charge.

Started to do some research and then decided ask the people who know.




I'm sorry but the answer I gave in my previous message was all wrong, I 
understood you wanted to know about third party battery grips, nor 3rd 
party batteries. I have to learn to read again.
Besides the original battery DL-90 which came with the K-7, I bought an 
Energizer branded compatible battery. It works as well as the original, 
so I can recommend it.

Carlos

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Re: The use of Canned gas for cleaning sensors


On 27/03/2014 8:22 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

There may be no dut but you seemed top have sprayed a large fox figure
onto the sensor.




It happened to be close at hand.

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Re: Recommendations for a Third party K-5 battery

2014-03-27 Thread Boris Liberman

Bill, it only proves that with 3rd party batteries it is a bit of a
gamble... Some say that their 3rd party batteries are good. Some say
the opposite. I am yet to see a person report that they bought an OEM
battery that did not perform properly...

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 27/03/2014 7:58 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 I don't think that saving few pennies on the battery and then
 accidentally having to deal with the issues that may arise is worth
 it. I had some 3rd party batteries for my K10D, one was really weak,
 another was satisfactory. But since I upgraded to K-7 I resolved to
 use OEM batteries only. No regrets here.

 The same by the way applies to the battery grip. The 3rd party grip
 turned out to be not very well made as far as electronics went. So
 again I have OEM grip and it is performing flawlessly...


 I felt the same way, but last year I wanted to have a few extra batteries
 for an extended trip where I wouldn't have reliable access to electricity.
 The Fuji especially is a battery hog, getting at best a few hundred shots on
 a battery, so I bit the bullet and bought a couple of aftermarket batteries
 for the Pentax and 3 for the Fuji. My net outlay was about 1/3 of the cost
 of OEM batteries, and the dealer is in Canada so if there are problems I can
 resolve them without having the hassle of dealing with a foreign company.
 The end result is that I have 5 extra batteries for my cameras that are
 indistiguishable in performance from their OEM cousins.
 The Fuji batteries are listed as a couple of hundred milli amps lower
 capacity, but I haven't noticed a performance difference. The new Fuji is a
 battery hog, I will probably buy a few more batteries for it. At best, I get
 a couple of hundred shots on a battery with it.

 bill


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Re: The use of Canned gas for cleaning sensors

The frozen gas hitting your focusing screen will spiderweb it.  Hitting 
your mirror can remove the silver, On a sensor it probably won't do the 
glass cover plate a lot of good either.


That said, I've never had a problem using a name brand, that produces a 
relatively soft stream of gas.  I prefer 3m because Sam's Club sells 
three packs for a considerable savings over what you'd pay for a similar 
product in most other stores.  I've never had one of their cans expel 
the frozen gas if handled as directed. In fact it takes quite a bit of 
mishandling to get that to happen.


 I've also used Falcon Dust Off, which was quite expensive, but the 
only game in town really for a long time.  Never had a problem with them 
either.  When I was using it to blow dust off negatives I had a few 
bargain brands spit frozen gas onto the negative.



On 3/27/2014 10:02 AM, Bill wrote:
One of the things that will turn grown men into mewling kittens is any 
mention of using canned gas as a dust removing method for cameras.


Don't do it, they say, it is instant death for your camera. Sometimes 
so stridently that one would think they were having kittens.


But really, how unsafe is it? What is the very worst case scenario? 
How about a blast of liquid straight from the can?


I invite you to watch a  short 1 minute (very amateur) video. The 
white blast at the 15 second mark is a blast from an upside down 
canned gas container being unloaded into the mirror box of a Pentax 
*istD camera.


The camera suffered absolutely no ill effects from this abuse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI3rk1sAPxc

as always, have fun.

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Re: The use of Canned gas for cleaning sensors

2014-03-27 Thread David J Brooks

There may be no dut but you seemed top have sprayed a large fox figure
onto the sensor.

Dave

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 One of the things that will turn grown men into mewling kittens is any
 mention of using canned gas as a dust removing method for cameras.

 Don't do it, they say, it is instant death for your camera. Sometimes so
 stridently that one would think they were having kittens.

 But really, how unsafe is it? What is the very worst case scenario? How
 about a blast of liquid straight from the can?

 I invite you to watch a  short 1 minute (very amateur) video. The white
 blast at the 15 second mark is a blast from an upside down canned gas
 container being unloaded into the mirror box of a Pentax *istD camera.

 The camera suffered absolutely no ill effects from this abuse.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI3rk1sAPxc

 as always, have fun.

 bill

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Re: Recommendations for a Third party K-5 battery

2014-03-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

The Sony A7 is another power hog. I bought a Wasabi set including two batteries 
and a charger. Cost was $30; they seem to work as well as the OEM batteries so 
far.  

Godfrey


 Quoting P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
 
 I though the K20D battery took a long time to fully charge.
 Started to do some research and then decided ask the people who know.

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Re: The use of Canned gas for cleaning sensors


On 27/03/2014 8:36 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

The frozen gas hitting your focusing screen will spiderweb it.  Hitting
your mirror can remove the silver, On a sensor it probably won't do the
glass cover plate a lot of good either.


Except that there were no harmful results from the frozen spray hitting 
the insides of the camera. This was the point, debunking exactly what 
you are saying as being untrue.


bill

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Re: Recommendations for a Third party K-5 battery

Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:

The Sony A7 is another power hog. I bought a Wasabi set 

I would imagine that's the hot setup...

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Re: Recommendations for a Third party K-5 battery

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Mark Roberts
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 Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:

The Sony A7 is another power hog. I bought a Wasabi set

 I would imagine that's the hot setup...

Another pun thread is going to get a chili reception. But my own kit
bag is peppered with spare non-OEM batteries.

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Re: The use of Canned gas for cleaning sensors

2014-03-27 Thread David J Brooks

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 27/03/2014 8:36 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

 The frozen gas hitting your focusing screen will spiderweb it.  Hitting
 your mirror can remove the silver, On a sensor it probably won't do the
 glass cover plate a lot of good either.


 Except that there were no harmful results from the frozen spray hitting the
 insides of the camera. This was the point, debunking exactly what you are
 saying as being untrue.

 bill

And dont forget it was Bil that debunked the 6x7 mirror shake theory.

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Re: The use of Canned gas for cleaning sensors

That's true, it didn't happen this time, but I've seen focusing screens 
ruined by frozen gas.  Hell it might not happen in 10 times or 20 
times.  It just has to happen once to ruin your whole day.  I think that 
the demonstration was proof that Pentax made a very robust product in 
the *ist-D.  I know I certainly put mine through hell.


On 3/27/2014 10:45 AM, Bill wrote:

On 27/03/2014 8:36 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

The frozen gas hitting your focusing screen will spiderweb it.  Hitting
your mirror can remove the silver, On a sensor it probably won't do the
glass cover plate a lot of good either.


Except that there were no harmful results from the frozen spray 
hitting the insides of the camera. This was the point, debunking 
exactly what you are saying as being untrue.


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Re: Recommendations for a Third party K-5 battery

That is kind of why I asked advice.  I bought a Flashpoint battery with 
better specifications that the OEM battery for the K20D.  It's reliable, 
charges quickly, and in keeping with that seems to hold about 1/2 the 
power of the OEM battery.  It's good in a pinch, but...


I'm looking for a sense of the list, if a particular brand gets decent 
reviews.  I'll look into buying it.


On 3/27/2014 10:35 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Bill, it only proves that with 3rd party batteries it is a bit of a
gamble... Some say that their 3rd party batteries are good. Some say
the opposite. I am yet to see a person report that they bought an OEM
battery that did not perform properly...

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:

On 27/03/2014 7:58 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

I don't think that saving few pennies on the battery and then
accidentally having to deal with the issues that may arise is worth
it. I had some 3rd party batteries for my K10D, one was really weak,
another was satisfactory. But since I upgraded to K-7 I resolved to
use OEM batteries only. No regrets here.

The same by the way applies to the battery grip. The 3rd party grip
turned out to be not very well made as far as electronics went. So
again I have OEM grip and it is performing flawlessly...


I felt the same way, but last year I wanted to have a few extra batteries
for an extended trip where I wouldn't have reliable access to electricity.
The Fuji especially is a battery hog, getting at best a few hundred shots on
a battery, so I bit the bullet and bought a couple of aftermarket batteries
for the Pentax and 3 for the Fuji. My net outlay was about 1/3 of the cost
of OEM batteries, and the dealer is in Canada so if there are problems I can
resolve them without having the hassle of dealing with a foreign company.
The end result is that I have 5 extra batteries for my cameras that are
indistiguishable in performance from their OEM cousins.
The Fuji batteries are listed as a couple of hundred milli amps lower
capacity, but I haven't noticed a performance difference. The new Fuji is a
battery hog, I will probably buy a few more batteries for it. At best, I get
a couple of hundred shots on a battery with it.

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Re: Recommendations for a Third party K-5 battery


On 27/03/2014 9:30 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

That is kind of why I asked advice.  I bought a Flashpoint battery with
better specifications that the OEM battery for the K20D.  It's reliable,
charges quickly, and in keeping with that seems to hold about 1/2 the
power of the OEM battery.  It's good in a pinch, but...

I'm looking for a sense of the list, if a particular brand gets decent
reviews.  I'll look into buying it.



My third party batteries come from batterycanada.com. No problems at 
all. It occurs to me I bought a laptop battery from them as well, also 
no problems.
I'm not sure if it makes a difference, but I suspect buying directly 
from Asia might be more of a crap shoot.


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Re: The use of Canned gas for cleaning sensors

David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 27/03/2014 8:36 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

 The frozen gas hitting your focusing screen will spiderweb it.  Hitting
 your mirror can remove the silver, On a sensor it probably won't do the
 glass cover plate a lot of good either.

 Except that there were no harmful results from the frozen spray hitting the
 insides of the camera. This was the point, debunking exactly what you are
 saying as being untrue.

And dont forget it was Bil that debunked the 6x7 mirror shake theory.

Bill revealed the truth behind that video to me at GFM! :)


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Re: OT:Linux

2014-03-27 Thread Toralf Lund


On 3/27/14 13:25, Mark C wrote:

On 3/27/2014 2:48 AM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote:

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
This weekend I installed Ubuntu on my scanning PC - tonight I 
finally fired
up the scanner running the linux version of VueScan and it is 
churning away,

[ ... ]
I've been trying to wrap my head around the basic design of Linux - 
thinks like sudo and chmod were totally alien to me. Ditto with the 
different command prompts based on the status of user permissions. 
Makes sense one you unravel it but it is not intuitive, to me at 
least.  Starting to get an understanding of it The only program I 
actually installed myself - VueScan - is sitting in the downloads 
folder. So even things like figuring out where to install programs is 
a mystery (I assume they should go somewhere in the usr folder...)
Actually, for this kind of thing, the recommended location these days is 
/opt, or a sub-directory of /opt named after the software vendor.


Most of the time you shouldn't think about this, though, but instead use 
software packages that have built-in target locations. You probably want 
to find out more about about APT and software repositories (a.k.a. 
repos). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool might be 
a good starting point...


- Toralf
But part of my motivation for using this was to learn it in hopes of 
someday unshackling from Windows completely.


Thanks again

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Re: OT:Linux

2014-03-27 Thread Ciprian Dorin Craciun

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 On 3/27/2014 2:48 AM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote:
  To directly answer your question of which Linux distribution is
 better suited for photo processing, I don't think there is such a
 distribution out there, although I guess Ubuntu fits the bill. ...


 I will probably stick with this one... I noticed that there were versions
 Ubuntu and Kubuntu (?) that were tweak very specifically - e.g. a Bioscience
 version, a multimedia version (video editing, I think) etc... I was hoping
 there might be a photographers version!

There seems to be an Ubuntu Studio distribution, which is geared
towards Audio, Graphics, Photography, etc.  However I have the feeling
that the only difference between this and the classical Ubuntu is
the default packages that come installed, maybe some menus, and the
bling;  else they (and the others like Kubuntu, etc.) share the same
software packages.

  http://ubuntustudio.org/

Ciprian.

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Photoshop fakery in big prize winner?

Have a look:
http://petapixel.com/2014/03/18/hipa-grand-prize-winner-looks-like-may-big-photoshop-fail/

I'm just about to head off to class but to me this looks like a
photoshop fake that one of my students would do (not very good, that
is).


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Re: Photoshop fakery in big prize winner?

The teacher’s arm does seem to have been pasted on, but that could be an 
illusion. The  position of the arm juxtaposed against the cloak makes it appear 
to be unnatural. The teacher could have long arms, and the second layer of very 
loose fitting clothing might disguise the position of his arm. His left arm 
would also have to be bent at the elbow, making it appear to be shorter than 
the right arm.So it might be kosher. Although I’d have to say it’s probably a 
bad fake. But difficult to prove.

On Mar 27, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Have a look:
 http://petapixel.com/2014/03/18/hipa-grand-prize-winner-looks-like-may-big-photoshop-fail/
 
 I'm just about to head off to class but to me this looks like a
 photoshop fake that one of my students would do (not very good, that
 is).
 
 
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Mac Digital Camera Raw 5.04 adds K-3

2014-03-27 Thread Larry Colen

I just got the notice for the Mac Digital Camera Raw 5.04 update which adds 
compatibility with the K-3. 
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BESO - Cone of Shame or Cone of Happiness?

2014-03-27 Thread Christine Nielsen

Hell out there!

It's been a long, cold winter here, and my photo mojo has been MIA for a while. 
Last week, I found inspiration in the strangest of places - The Cone of Shame. 
Wally the Dog had surgery, and has been sentenced to wearing one of those 
aggravating Elizabethan collars as he heals.  My kids have been getting 
creative with it, and I have been shooting the results.  I've even resurrected 
my long-neglected blog for posting the images. 

So, for your amusement...

 http://www.crapmanagement.com

If nothing else, I've finally busted out the new-to-me 31mm ltd, which I 
enabled myself with earlier this winter, thanks to Miserere... I think I'm 
gonna like it. 

:)
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Re: Photoshop fakery in big prize winner?

Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

The teachers arm does seem to have been pasted on, but that could be an
illusion.
The position of the arm juxtaposed against the cloak makes it appear to be
unnatural. The teacher could have long arms, and the second layer of very
loose
fitting clothing might disguise the position of his arm. His left arm would
also
have to be bent at the elbow, making it appear to be shorter than the right
arm.
So it might be kosher. Although Id have to say its probably a bad fake.
But difficult to prove.

Look at the magnified crop below the main picture. The sleeve is
clearly a different material than the rest of the outer garment. Could
be a different garment under a cloak? Nope, because it extends outside
the cloak (or whatever it is) at bottom left.

And try drawing a mental picture (or a physical one, in Photoshop) of
how that arm is positioned. Where's his elbow? You'll find no remotely
plausible location for his elbow, given the angle of his arm.

I just loaded the image into Photoshop and brightened it up with
Curves. It's even more obviously a ghastly fake.

On Mar 27, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

Have a look:
http://petapixel.com/2014/03/18/hipa-grand-prize-winner-looks-like-may-big-photoshop-fail/

I'm just about to head off to class but to me this looks like a
photoshop fake that one of my students would do (not very good, that
is).

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Re: BESO - Cone of Shame or Cone of Happiness?

Those are great, Christine. Your kids are very imaginative indeed! And
you all managed to do this without making Wally look depressed, which
is a big plus. :-)


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:
 Hell out there!

 It's been a long, cold winter here, and my photo mojo has been MIA for a 
 while. Last week, I found inspiration in the strangest of places - The Cone 
 of Shame. Wally the Dog had surgery, and has been sentenced to wearing one of 
 those aggravating Elizabethan collars as he heals.  My kids have been getting 
 creative with it, and I have been shooting the results.  I've even 
 resurrected my long-neglected blog for posting the images.

 So, for your amusement...

  http://www.crapmanagement.com

 If nothing else, I've finally busted out the new-to-me 31mm ltd, which I 
 enabled myself with earlier this winter, thanks to Miserere... I think I'm 
 gonna like it.

 :)
 -c

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Re: Photoshop fakery in big prize winner?

2014-03-27 Thread Paul Sorenson

Yeah. It really becomes obvious when you lighten it some. That's a
really ham-handed job of photoshopping.

-p

On 3/27/2014 12:47 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

The teacher’s arm does seem to have been pasted on, but that could be an
illusion.
The position of the arm juxtaposed against the cloak makes it appear to be
unnatural. The teacher could have long arms, and the second layer of very loose
fitting clothing might disguise the position of his arm. His left arm would also
have to be bent at the elbow, making it appear to be shorter than the right arm.
So it might be kosher. Although I’d have to say it’s probably a bad fake.
But difficult to prove.

I just loaded the image into Photoshop and brightened it up with
Curves. It's even more obviously a ghastly fake.

On Mar 27, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

Have a look:
http://petapixel.com/2014/03/18/hipa-grand-prize-winner-looks-like-may-big-photoshop-fail/

I'm just about to head off to class but to me this looks like a
photoshop fake that one of my students would do (not very good, that
is).

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On Mar 27, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

The teacher’s arm does seem to have been pasted on, but that could be an
illusion.
The position of the arm juxtaposed against the cloak makes it appear to be
unnatural. The teacher could have long arms, and the second layer of very
loose
fitting clothing might disguise the position of his arm. His left arm would
also
have to be bent at the elbow, making it appear to be shorter than the right
arm.
So it might be kosher. Although I’d have to say it’s probably a bad fake.
But difficult to prove.

Look at this magnified, brightened and sharpened crop of the magnified crop:-).
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17719831size=lg
The inter garment appears to be merely protruding from the outer garment, and
there is a suggestion of the inner garment material behind the left hand as
well. While it may very iell be a fake there doesn’t appear to be definitive
evidence here. Perhaps more telling than the material of the garment on the
arm is the bit of blur where it intersects the outer garment and the overlap of
the light colored material. But none of that is positive proof of fakery..
Powerful suggestion, yes, but not posit proof. An examination of the high-res
version may be much more revealing of course.

Paul

I just loaded the image into Photoshop and brightened it up with
Curves. It's even more obviously a ghastly fake.

On Mar 27, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com
wrote:

Have a look:
http://petapixel.com/2014/03/18/hipa-grand-prize-winner-looks-like-may-big-photoshop-fail/

I'm just about to head off to class but to me this looks like a
photoshop fake that one of my students would do (not very good, that
is).

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Re: K-3 and CS3 fail

Thanks for the reply Ken, Brian, Bill and Dave.
And Brian, I viewed the Creative Live 3 day presentation from Jared Platt
on Lightroom 5.  It was good to see a pro working Lightroom!
Just seeing how much he adjusted sliders was instructive.
Thanks for the recommendation.
Regards, Bob S.

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:48 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 26/03/2014 10:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 A friend tells me the DGN's from his new K-3 can't be processed in CS3.
 Any suggestions???
 Regards,  Bob S.

 Tell him to set the camera for DNG rather than PEF. His K3 DNGs have to work
 in CS3. I was able to process K3 DNGs in CS (though it took a while, slow
 computer, big files).

 My version of PSCS reads the K-5 DNG's fine

 Dave

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Re: The use of Canned gas for cleaning sensors

Bought some canned air at Fry's Electronics and noticed a residual.
The spray left something behinda kind of film.
I wish I had a video of when I used it on the barbecue grill.
The hair on the back of my hand was gone in a flash,
and nearly my eyebrows as well.
But if your's doesn't do that, great!
Regards,  Bob S.


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 One of the things that will turn grown men into mewling kittens is any
 mention of using canned gas as a dust removing method for cameras.

 Don't do it, they say, it is instant death for your camera. Sometimes so
 stridently that one would think they were having kittens.

 But really, how unsafe is it? What is the very worst case scenario? How
 about a blast of liquid straight from the can?

 I invite you to watch a  short 1 minute (very amateur) video. The white
 blast at the 15 second mark is a blast from an upside down canned gas
 container being unloaded into the mirror box of a Pentax *istD camera.

 The camera suffered absolutely no ill effects from this abuse.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI3rk1sAPxc

 as always, have fun.

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Re: Photoshop fakery in big prize winner?

Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

On Mar 27, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 The teachers arm does seem to have been pasted on, but that could be an 
 illusion. 
 The  position of the arm juxtaposed against the cloak makes it appear to be 
 unnatural. The teacher could have long arms, and the second layer of very 
 loose 
 fitting clothing might disguise the position of his arm. His left arm would 
 also 
 have to be bent at the elbow, making it appear to be shorter than the right 
 arm.
 So it might be kosher. Although Id have to say its probably a bad fake. 
 But difficult to prove.
 
 Look at the magnified crop below the main picture. The sleeve is
 clearly a different material than the rest of the outer garment. Could
 be a different garment under a cloak? Nope, because it extends outside
 the cloak (or whatever it is) at bottom left.

Look at this magnified, brightened and sharpened crop of the magnified 
crop:-). http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17719831size=lg

Shame about that genetic deformity he as. With the 20-inch-long
forearm and the 8-inch-long upper arm.

Sorry, but that just makes the fakery even more obvious.

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Re: Recommendations for a Third party K-5 battery

2014-03-27 Thread steve harley


on 2014-03-27 7:58 Boris Liberman wrote

I don't think that saving few pennies on the battery and then
accidentally having to deal with the issues that may arise is worth
it.


hmmm, this sounds like a truism - issues may arise either way, so i don't think 
buying brand names is a clear predictor of risk; and it's not just pennies so 
there's an opportunity cost - on what else of greater benefit could the 
difference in cost be spent?


in my case the two ebay batteries i bought last November have been problem free 
and the capacity difference is not evident in moderate use; as i mentioned 
then, their rated capacity is 1400mAh, or 75% of OEM; capacity was not my goal 
- i rarely ran my one battery down, but i wanted to have a spare to carry and a 
third to allow for when one is charging; for a net price of about $5 each, i 
met my goal and saved about $80


the seller was power-alternatives, but no D-Li90s in stock currently; those 
for whom higher capacity *is* the goal might consider the 2800mAh models going 
for $8.50 each right now on eBay


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Re: BESO - Cone of Shame or Cone of Happiness?

Great shots Christine,
and I'm sure you'll enjoy the 31mm Limited.
It rarely leaves my K-5IIs.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:
 Hell out there!

 It's been a long, cold winter here, and my photo mojo has been MIA for a 
 while. Last week, I found inspiration in the strangest of places - The Cone 
 of Shame. Wally the Dog had surgery, and has been sentenced to wearing one of 
 those aggravating Elizabethan collars as he heals.  My kids have been getting 
 creative with it, and I have been shooting the results.  I've even 
 resurrected my long-neglected blog for posting the images.

 So, for your amusement...

  http://www.crapmanagement.com

 If nothing else, I've finally busted out the new-to-me 31mm ltd, which I 
 enabled myself with earlier this winter, thanks to Miserere... I think I'm 
 gonna like it.

 :)
 -c

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Re: The use of Canned gas for cleaning sensors


On 27/03/2014 1:11 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Bought some canned air at Fry's Electronics and noticed a residual.
The spray left something behinda kind of film.
I wish I had a video of when I used it on the barbecue grill.
The hair on the back of my hand was gone in a flash,
and nearly my eyebrows as well.
But if your's doesn't do that, great!


I've heard that. I try to use Dust-Off specifically. Not all canned 
gasses are the same, there's seems to be the cleanest. And yes, it is a 
volatile.


bill

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Re: Photoshop fakery in big prize winner?


On 27/03/2014 12:21 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:


Look at this magnified, brightened and sharpened crop of the
magnified crop:-).
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17719831size=lg The inter
garment appears to be merely protruding from the outer garment, and
there is a suggestion of the inner garment material behind the left
hand as well. While it may very iell be a fake there doesn’t appear
to be definitive evidence here.  Perhaps more telling than the
material of the garment on the arm is the bit of blur where it
intersects the outer garment and the overlap of the light colored
material. But none of that is positive proof of fakery.. Powerful
suggestion, yes, but not posit proof. An examination of the high-res
version may be much more revealing of course.



His arm appears to be growing out of the middle of his chest. Hopefully 
this was a mercy win given to a grade 4 student.


bill

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OT - getting great dog portraits

500px has a blog entry up on Elke Vogelsang's wonderful and whimsical
dog portraiture and how she does it ...

http://500px.com/blog/1091/the-secrets-to-taking-awesome-dog-portraits-by-elke-vogelsang

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Re: Photoshop fakery in big prize winner?


On Mar 27, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 On Mar 27, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 
 Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 The teacher’s arm does seem to have been pasted on, but that could be an 
 illusion. 
 The  position of the arm juxtaposed against the cloak makes it appear to 
 be 
 unnatural. The teacher could have long arms, and the second layer of very 
 loose 
 fitting clothing might disguise the position of his arm. His left arm 
 would also 
 have to be bent at the elbow, making it appear to be shorter than the 
 right arm.
 So it might be kosher. Although I’d have to say it’s probably a bad fake. 
 But difficult to prove.
 
 Look at the magnified crop below the main picture. The sleeve is
 clearly a different material than the rest of the outer garment. Could
 be a different garment under a cloak? Nope, because it extends outside
 the cloak (or whatever it is) at bottom left.
 
 Look at this magnified, brightened and sharpened crop of the magnified 
 crop:-). http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17719831size=lg
 
 Shame about that genetic deformity he as. With the 20-inch-long
 forearm and the 8-inch-long upper arm.
 
 Sorry, but that just makes the fakery even more obvious.

Yes, it does make it more obvious, but I still contend it’s not a slam dunk. 
His arm could be bent within that sleeve, so we might be seeing both part of 
the forearm and upper arm there. It doesn’t look right, but I’m not sure that 
the weirdness isn’t an illusion created by the garments. I do agree that it’s 
probably a fake, but I’m not sure that a jury could convict.

 
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PESO: Moving House

It's amazing the lengths they'll go to to move a house around here...

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/789/#peso

Cheers,
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Re: PESO: Moving House

very cute  :-)

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:38 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's amazing the lengths they'll go to to move a house around here...

 http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/789/#peso

 Cheers,
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Re: Photoshop fakery in big prize winner?

2014-03-27 Thread Jack Davis

Just for discussion;
Appears as though he is wearing something, perhaps of different material, 
draped over his shoulders.
I think I can make out what MIGHT be an elbow bump near the bottom of a very 
full sleeve and in a possibly logical position.(??)
All very murky and, maybe, for good reason.

Jack




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Subject: Re: Photoshop fakery in big prize winner?

Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

The teacher’s arm does seem to have been pasted on, but that could be an 
illusion. 
The  position of the arm juxtaposed against the cloak makes it appear to be 
unnatural. The teacher could have long arms, and the second layer of very 
loose 
fitting clothing might disguise the position of his arm. His left arm would 
also 
have to be bent at the elbow, making it appear to be shorter than the right 
arm.
So it might be kosher. Although I’d have to say it’s probably a bad fake. 
But difficult to prove.

Look at the magnified crop below the main picture. The sleeve is
clearly a different material than the rest of the outer garment. Could
be a different garment under a cloak? Nope, because it extends outside
the cloak (or whatever it is) at bottom left.

And try drawing a mental picture (or a physical one, in Photoshop) of
how that arm is positioned. Where's his elbow? You'll find no remotely
plausible location for his elbow, given the angle of his arm.

I just loaded the image into Photoshop and brightened it up with
Curves. It's even more obviously a ghastly fake.



On Mar 27, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Have a look:
 http://petapixel.com/2014/03/18/hipa-grand-prize-winner-looks-like-may-big-photoshop-fail/
 
 I'm just about to head off to class but to me this looks like a
 photoshop fake that one of my students would do (not very good, that
 is).
 
 
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PESO: Bug on a Flower

Here's a bug I found on a marigold flower a few weeks ago.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/790/#peso

I had to do a bit of contortion to get this view.  As usually happens I took 
two photos and preferred the composition of the first but the second had better 
focus.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO: Moving House

2014-03-27 Thread Jack Davis

LoL...

J




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Subject: PESO: Moving House

It's amazing the lengths they'll go to to move a house around here...

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/789/#peso

Cheers,
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Re: BESO - Cone of Shame or Cone of Happiness?


How embarrassing for the pup!

Nice pics!

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

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Subject: BESO - Cone of Shame or Cone of Happiness?



Hell out there!

It's been a long, cold winter here, and my photo mojo has been MIA for a 
while. Last week, I found inspiration in the strangest of places - The 
Cone of Shame. Wally the Dog had surgery, and has been sentenced to 
wearing one of those aggravating Elizabethan collars as he heals.  My kids 
have been getting creative with it, and I have been shooting the results. 
I've even resurrected my long-neglected blog for posting the images.


So, for your amusement...

http://www.crapmanagement.com

If nothing else, I've finally busted out the new-to-me 31mm ltd, which I 
enabled myself with earlier this winter, thanks to Miserere... I think I'm 
gonna like it.


:)
-c

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Re: Fwd: OT_ If it's not one thing.. (off again, and back again)


I believe Credit Unions are by law Not-for-profit, which I don't think
applies to Mutual Banks.

You have to be a member of a Credit Union, and there are limits on who
can become a member. You have to have some common interest with the
other members in order to become a member. Sometimes that interest can
be a bit tenuous and you'll still be eligible to join.

The two big Credit Unions around here are Coastal Federal Credit Union
and North Carolina State Employees' Credit Union. You had to have some
affiliation with someone who worked for the Federal Government to be
eligible for the former and/or an affiliation with the state government
here in North Carolina to be eligible for the latter.

I was in the North Carolina National Guard, so that was close enough to
make me eligible to join the NC SECU. And because it was the ARMY
National Guard, I could have joined Coastal Federal if I had wanted to.

SECU had more convenient branch offices at the time, so I chose them.

I know there are other credit unions around here. IBM had a large
presence out at Research Triangle Park, and their employees had a credit
union available to them.

On 3/26/2014 7:34 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

That's also a description of an old fashioned, Mutual savings bank,
after they were allowed to offer Checking accounts, (called something
 else but I don't remember what right now).  Credit unions have one
advantage, they're tax free, also I don't think it's legal to convert
a Credit Union into a Stock company, but it was perfectly legal to do
that with Mutual banks, Hence the current dearth of Mutual banks,
(especially as the converters could often make hefty profits).

On 3/26/2014 4:07 PM, steve harley wrote:

on 2014-03-26 12:53 Ann Sanfedele wrote

Thanks, Steve..

I confess, I really don't understand what a credit union is,
actually..


a non-profit cooperative bank, basically; all the same services
except checks are called share drafts; plus you get a small say
in how things are run



I need a bank that has lots of locations and near me - the one I
 chose seems very good - I should have switched long ago.


the credit union i use belongs to a network of credit unions that
share ATMs and physical branch services; so i have free ATMs and
teller services at locations nationwide; when i'm traveling an app
 tells me where find them

perhaps not worth pursuing now that you are settled, but for
others' reference:

http://www.co-opsharedbranch.org/participating-cus/






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Re: OT: Eagle Cam


On 3/27/2014 12:13 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Mar 27, 2014, at 12:27 pm, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:


The Bald Eagle has been on the comeback everywhere in the US since they
banned DVD


Did they go on strike until they got Blu-Ray?

Cheers,
Dave




Duh! I don't know how that got through. I *do* try to proof-read before 
hitting send.


That should have been since they banned DDT.


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Re: K-3 and CS3 fail


Quoting Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com:


On 26/03/2014 10:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

A friend tells me the DGN's from his new K-3 can't be processed in CS3.
Any suggestions???
Regards,  Bob S.

Tell him to set the camera for DNG rather than PEF. His K3 DNGs have  
to work in CS3. I was able to process K3 DNGs in CS (though it took  
a while, slow computer, big files).



The failure of Bob's friends K-3 DNGs to be read by CS3 surprised me  
as I thought shooting DNGs future-proofed newer cameras from having to  
continually upgrade Photoshop.  That's why I wanted to check out the  
problem.


I couldn't find any sample K-3 DNGs online so I grabbed a K-3 PEF and  
put it through DNG converter, which opened in CS3 just fine.


It seems odd that an out-of-camera DNG would choke in CS3 but a PEF   
DNG converted file opens OK. Bob, is your friend actually shooting  
PEFs (which won't open in CS3 - I checked) rather than DNGs?  I think  
the K-3's default RAW format is PEF.



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Re: Fwd: OT_ If it's not one thing.. (off again, and back again)

2014-03-27 Thread steve harley


on 2014-03-27 15:09 John wrote

You have to be a member of a Credit Union, and there are limits on who
can become a member. You have to have some common interest with the
other members in order to become a member. Sometimes that interest can
be a bit tenuous and you'll still be eligible to join.


the rules have gradually become quite loose; as an example, the Denver 
Community Credit Union (not mine) accepts memberships from anyone who lives or 
works in one of three counties; once you're a member, a member of your family 
may also join


(i was also surprised to learn it accepts business members - didn't realize 
credit unions could do that)


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Re: OT:Linux


I ran across one called AV Linux that is aimed at multimedia production.
I don't know how well suited it would be for still photography.

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=avlinux

I mean, still photography is a component of multimedia isn't it?

I was looking for something I could do with the old computers my mom no
longer needs  was searching for audio recording tools. AV Linux looked
real interesting.

But, I don't think that old Pentium 3 system is powerful enough to run it,
even if I maxed out the memory. It's just too old, too obsolete. I have
the feeling that it is fated for the scrap heap sooner, rather than later.

Apparently, even Linux has minimum hardware requirements.

I have more hope for the other system.

On 3/27/2014 2:48 AM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote:

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

This weekend I installed Ubuntu on my scanning PC - tonight I finally fired
up the scanner running the linux version of VueScan and it is churning away,
batch scanning 12 35mm exposures. Great!


 Huray!  Welcome to the Linux world!

 However I would love to hear your feedback on your experience with
Linux for photography, thus keep us (or at least me :) ) posted on
this topic.



After installing Unbuntu I learned that there are several other linux builds
out there. Is there one better suited for photo processing?


 To directly answer your question of which Linux distribution is
better suited for photo processing, I don't think there is such a
distribution out there, although I guess Ubuntu fits the bill.


 A distribution mainly boils down to the following:
 * the selection of packages --- how many are available, and how
old are the versions;  (in essence they all run the same software;)
 * the choice of desktop environment --- KDE vs. Gnome mainly;  (in
essence you can choose one or another on any distribution;)
 * the choice of management tools (saving you the trouble of
getting your hands dirty in the configuration files) --- my guess is
that Ubuntu / OpenSUSE win here;
 * the size of the community, which is proportional to the amount
of available documentation and support;
 * the bling, i.e., default colors, fonts, logos, backgrounds, etc.;


 Out of all the Linux distributions, the most popular and stress
free for the end-user would be the following (or at least to my
opinion):

 * Ubuntu;  (use the LTS edition 14.04 when it appears, if you
don't intend to upgrade / reinstall it every two years or so;)  out of
all I think it offers the most stream-line experience for
non-technical people, it features quite a lot of software, although
not at the latest version;  (however there is the thing called PPA
repositories which tends to solve this issue;)

 * Debian (which Ubuntu is based on);  however although it has in
its repositories almost all the software you can get running on Linux,
the versions tend to be quite old especially in the stable version;
(I would recommend this for more experienced people with Linux;)

 * OpenSUSE  (use the latest 13.x variant), which could be as
streamline in experience as Ubuntu for the end-user, although I have
the feeling they have less software ready available than Ubuntu;

 * ArchLinux (the one I use), which has the advantage of having
always the bleeding-edge software versions, although probably in
lesser numbers than Ubuntu;  (and I guess you'll have more hassle in
installing and managing it than the others, thus I'll recommend it to
more experienced users;)

 * of course there is http://distrowatch.com/ which provides a lot
of information (statistics, overviews, etc.) of various Linux and BSD
distributions;

 (Please note that when I say software available I actually mean
precompiled ready to be installed software from their repositories,
because you can certainly compile software yourself even if it's not
in their repositories, but this can be a daunting task sometimes.)



Are there any good LInux Photo Editors out there?  I am scanning BW and
need something that support 16 bit gray scale, which I think excludes Gimp.


 To my knowledge there is no stable (and open-source) 16 bit
image editor for Linux.  There is however CinePaint which is a GIMP
fork (?) to support 16 bit image manipulation:
http://www.cinepaint.org/ , however I haven't used it thus I can't say
much about it.

 For RAW processing --- which you could try to use with your 16 bit
TIFF --- I can recommend RawTherapee (the one I use, although there
are others like Darktable), and there was discussion about this in
July 2013 with the subject: `Linux RAW editor/manager? (was Re: OT -
Lightzone Open Source Photo Editor (Windows, Linux))`.  The following
is my reply regarding Darktable and RawTherapee:

   http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2013-July/351722.html


 Related to this topic, I've made a list of software related to
photography (which run on Linux, that I

Re: BESO - Cone of Shame or Cone of Happiness?

Christine Nielsen wrote:


 http://www.crapmanagement.com

Great stuff! My class really enjoyed 'em :)

 
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Re: OT:Linux

2014-03-27 Thread Larry Colen

I already mentioned this to Mark, but it is a good way to understand why
unix shells work the way they do:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy

One suggestion that I have, if you can, is to put /home and any other 
directory trees that have data, rather than system files on them, on a 
disk other than you root / system disk.  This way, if you want to try 
another distribution, you can easily swap system drives and immediately
have all of your important data.

It also makes it easy to back up all of your important data.

One thing that is a little bit inconsistent is that there are two main
editors: vi and emacs.  Commands like less (less is more, only better)
use the vi search commands ( /, ?) while bash (the command line) uses 
the emacs search commands: ^R and ^S. 

The vi and emacs religious war would put ford/chevy or nikon/canon 
debates to shame, and is only slightly less productive. 

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Re: OT:Linux


On 3/27/2014 8:25 AM, Mark C wrote:


I've been trying to wrap my head around the basic design of Linux -
thinks like sudo and chmod were totally alien to me. Ditto with the
different command prompts based on the status of user permissions. Makes
sense one you unravel it but it is not intuitive, to me at least.
Starting to get an understanding of it The only program I actually
installed myself - VueScan - is sitting in the downloads folder. So even
things like figuring out where to install programs is a mystery (I
assume they should go somewhere in the usr folder...) But part of my
motivation for using this was to learn it in hopes of someday
unshackling from Windows completely.

Thanks again

Mark


Unix (and/or Linux) isn't so much an operating system as it is an
agglomeration of programmers tools that hang around together, all
striving to outdo all the others with their geekness.

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Re: BESO - Cone of Shame or Cone of Happiness?


It's all fun and games, until, someone ends up in a cone.

On 3/27/2014 1:43 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

Hell out there!

It's been a long, cold winter here, and my photo mojo has been MIA for a while. 
Last week, I found inspiration in the strangest of places - The Cone of Shame. 
Wally the Dog had surgery, and has been sentenced to wearing one of those 
aggravating Elizabethan collars as he heals.  My kids have been getting 
creative with it, and I have been shooting the results.  I've even resurrected 
my long-neglected blog for posting the images.

So, for your amusement...

  http://www.crapmanagement.com

If nothing else, I've finally busted out the new-to-me 31mm ltd, which I 
enabled myself with earlier this winter, thanks to Miserere... I think I'm 
gonna like it.

:)
-c

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Re: K-3 and CS3 fail


On 3/27/2014 1:23 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com:


A friend tells me the DGN's from his new K-3 can't be processed in
CS3. Any suggestions??? Regards,  Bob S.



I don't have a K-3 but this is an interesting problem so I downloaded
a K-3 PEF from Pentax Forums
(http://www.pentaxforums.com/news/pentax-k-3-full-size-samples.html).
 As expected, CS3 couldn't open the PEF file so then I ran it through
the latest DNG Converter.  The resultant DNG opened in CS3 without
problems.

So one solution seems to be to shoot PEFs, batch convert to DNG with
the latest Adobe DNG Converter and then open them in CS3.

I'm not sure if DNG Converter will convert K-3 DNGs to CS3-compatible
 DNGs, so this solution might not help with any existing RAWs that
your friend has.  He might have to use the Silkypix software that
came with the K-3 to process those DNGs.




Still, that begs the question about K-3 DNG files.

Isn't the whole idea of DNG files was that they were supposed to be
compatible with any software that processed DNG files without having to
worry about the files from newer cameras not working?

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Re: Recommendations for a Third party K-5 battery


On 3/27/2014 1:27 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:


I though the K20D battery took a long time to fully charge.

Started to do some research and then decided ask the people who know.



I bought some third party batteries for my K-5 on eBay (they're branded
'DSTE').  I haven't noticed any difference in performance or charging
time in comparison with the OEM Pentax battery - not that I've done any
specific tests.




What about a charger for the D-LI90 battery? Is there a good aftermarket
charger available?

I looked on the Pentax site and it seems like the Pentax chargers are
out of stock.

Also, what about a charger that would work off the 12V socket in the
car? (Assuming there's a time when it's not in use powering a cell
phone, gps, etc.)

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Re: Photoshop fakery in big prize winner?


On 3/27/2014 12:51 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Have a look:
http://petapixel.com/2014/03/18/hipa-grand-prize-winner-looks-like-may-big-photoshop-fail/

I'm just about to head off to class but to me this looks like a
photoshop fake that one of my students would do (not very good, that
is).




Gotta' wonder about the judges that they couldn't see it.

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Re: Fwd: OT_ If it's not one thing.. (off again, and back again)


On 3/27/2014 5:39 PM, steve harley wrote:

on 2014-03-27 15:09 John wrote

You have to be a member of a Credit Union, and there are limits on who
can become a member. You have to have some common interest with the
other members in order to become a member. Sometimes that interest can
be a bit tenuous and you'll still be eligible to join.


the rules have gradually become quite loose; as an example, the Denver
Community Credit Union (not mine) accepts memberships from anyone who
lives or works in one of three counties; once you're a member, a member
of your family may also join

(i was also surprised to learn it accepts business members - didn't
realize credit unions could do that)



There are some credit unions set up to provide business services, but
most are not, especially due to the power commercial banks have over
banking regulators to block credit union competition. More surprising
than the existence of a credit union that offers business services is
that such a credit union would still offer services to natural persons.

I think generally credit unions are chartered to serve one or the other,
but not both.

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Re: K-3 and CS3 fail


Quoting John johnsess...@yahoo.com:


Still, that begs the question about K-3 DNG files.

Isn't the whole idea of DNG files was that they were supposed to be
compatible with any software that processed DNG files without having to
worry about the files from newer cameras not working?



That was the theory as I understood it.  I'd like to get hold of a K-3  
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PESO -- Special Pleading.

This is Sally the escape artist.  The neighbor's Golden Doodle which 
despite her lineage is a very black dog.  In fact up until now with any 
DSLR I've owned I would have struggled to get any detail in her fir and 
not blow out the white door behind her.  I was able to render this with 
very little fiddling, though I'm really going to have to build a new 
Photo Editing machine, a couple of operations were beyond painfully slow.


Sally's story is slightly complex.  Her owners had a fenced in back yard 
which kept their other dog nicely confined, but not Sally she could 
leave and return anytime she liked. Easily jumping the five foot fence.  
They finally figured this out and apparently gave up. The fence is being 
removed and Sally has the run of the neighborhood.  This is both good 
and bad for Sally, she gets to explore and visit all her friends, 
however if she isn't home before everyone has to leave she's condemned 
to stay out until someone arrives to let her in.  This is what seems to 
have happened today, so after running over to greet me and my Cocker 
Spaniel, she wanted me to let her into her house...  Smart but not smart 
enough.



Anyway the story is more interesting than the picture.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20specialpleading.html

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Re: Recommendations for a Third party K-5 battery

2014-03-27 Thread Stanley Halpin

I have a Pearstone charger for D-Li90’s. The same basic charger is sold with 
various slide-in clip-in battery cradles for various battery styles. The unit 
plugs directly into the wall with fold-out prongs - no messy cords to cope 
with. I’ve used this for a least a couple of years with no issues.
Charging speed compared to OEM? I have no idea. I put the battery in, 
eventually it is ready, I take it out and repeat as needed with additional 
batteries.But I don’t think it is appreciably slower than the Pentax charger.  
Do the D-Li90’s get as completely charged? Over-charged? Do they hold the 
charge as long? Again, I have no idea. That is why I carry spare batteries so I 
needn’t worry about such details. My spares are mostly OEM with 1-2 3rd party 
purchased via BH IIRC. Never any issues. The only non-Pentax that I can lay my 
hands on at the moment is labeled Watson, 7.4v, 1800mAh.

stan

On Mar 27, 2014, at 6:16 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:

 On 3/27/2014 1:27 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
 Quoting P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
 
 I though the K20D battery took a long time to fully charge.
 
 Started to do some research and then decided ask the people who know.
 
 
 I bought some third party batteries for my K-5 on eBay (they're branded
 'DSTE').  I haven't noticed any difference in performance or charging
 time in comparison with the OEM Pentax battery - not that I've done any
 specific tests.
 
 
 
 What about a charger for the D-LI90 battery? Is there a good aftermarket
 charger available?
 
 I looked on the Pentax site and it seems like the Pentax chargers are
 out of stock.
 
 Also, what about a charger that would work off the 12V socket in the
 car? (Assuming there's a time when it's not in use powering a cell
 phone, gps, etc.)
 
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Re: K-3 and CS3 fail

2014-03-27 Thread Stanley Halpin

OK. I’ll put one in my Dropbox later and send you a link off-list.

stan

On Mar 27, 2014, at 7:04 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 Quoting John johnsess...@yahoo.com:
 
 Still, that begs the question about K-3 DNG files.
 
 Isn't the whole idea of DNG files was that they were supposed to be
 compatible with any software that processed DNG files without having to
 worry about the files from newer cameras not working?
 
 
 That was the theory as I understood it.  I'd like to get hold of a K-3 DNG to 
 try it on my copy of CS3.
 
 
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Re: K-3 and CS3 fail

Here’s a K-3 DNG for you:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/79914167/_IMG2191.DNG

Paul
On Mar 27, 2014, at 7:04 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 Quoting John johnsess...@yahoo.com:
 
 Still, that begs the question about K-3 DNG files.
 
 Isn't the whole idea of DNG files was that they were supposed to be
 compatible with any software that processed DNG files without having to
 worry about the files from newer cameras not working?
 
 
 That was the theory as I understood it.  I'd like to get hold of a K-3 DNG to 
 try it on my copy of CS3.
 
 
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Re: PESO -- Special Pleading.


I had a Bouvier des Flandres that looked a lot like that when his coat
was trimmed.

Same kind of personality I think. A six foot fence would keep him from
going over, but I ended up having to trench around the perimeter and add
a skirt underground to keep him from tunneling under.

He was the most lovable dog, but VERY HIGH MAINTENANCE; required hours
of combing every day to keep the coat from matting, and he didn't very
much like being groomed.

I wonder if an invisible fence would work. I worry about dogs on the
loose nowadays. It has become a dangerous world out there.

On 3/27/2014 7:05 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

This is Sally the escape artist.  The neighbor's Golden Doodle which
despite her lineage is a very black dog.  In fact up until now with any
DSLR I've owned I would have struggled to get any detail in her fir and
not blow out the white door behind her.  I was able to render this with
very little fiddling, though I'm really going to have to build a new
Photo Editing machine, a couple of operations were beyond painfully slow.

Sally's story is slightly complex.  Her owners had a fenced in back yard
which kept their other dog nicely confined, but not Sally she could
leave and return anytime she liked. Easily jumping the five foot fence.
They finally figured this out and apparently gave up. The fence is being
removed and Sally has the run of the neighborhood.  This is both good
and bad for Sally, she gets to explore and visit all her friends,
however if she isn't home before everyone has to leave she's condemned
to stay out until someone arrives to let her in.  This is what seems to
have happened today, so after running over to greet me and my Cocker
Spaniel, she wanted me to let her into her house...  Smart but not smart
enough.


Anyway the story is more interesting than the picture.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20specialpleading.html


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Re: OT:Linux


On 3/27/2014 12:02 PM, Toralf Lund wrote:

 ]
I've been trying to wrap my head around the basic design of Linux - 
thinks like sudo and chmod were totally alien to me. Ditto with the 
different command prompts based on the status of user permissions. 
Makes sense one you unravel it but it is not intuitive, to me at 
least.  Starting to get an understanding of it The only program I 
actually installed myself - VueScan - is sitting in the downloads 
folder. So even things like figuring out where to install programs is 
a mystery (I assume they should go somewhere in the usr folder...)
Actually, for this kind of thing, the recommended location these days 
is /opt, or a sub-directory of /opt named after the software vendor.


Most of the time you shouldn't think about this, though, but instead 
use software packages that have built-in target locations. You 
probably want to find out more about about APT and software 
repositories (a.k.a. repos). 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool might be a good 
starting point...


- Toralf

Thanks - I will check that out.

Mark

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Re: Recommendations for a Third party K-5 battery


For the D-Li50s that powered the K10D/K20D I have 5 batteries  3
chargers. I have the two Pentax chargers that came with the cameras and
an after-market charger I bought that has the folding prongs for 110VAC
and plug-in adapter for the 12VDC in the car.

The only non-Pentax battery I have is a Konica Minolta NP-400 1500mAh.
I've never noticed it being any different than the Pentax branded
batteries. The Pentax batteries came with the K10D, the K20D, the K20D
battery grip and Wolf Camera when it was going out of business.

I like being able to keep the spare battery on the charger even in the
car. That way the length of time it takes to charge becomes moot.

I'd like to be able to do the same for the D-Li90s. The cost of the
Pentax branded batteries doesn't bother me that much, given that I've
not yet seen any of the aftermarket batteries with a higher rated capacity.

On 3/27/2014 7:14 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

I have a Pearstone charger for D-Li90’s. The same basic charger is
sold with various slide-in clip-in battery cradles for various
battery styles. The unit plugs directly into the wall with fold-out
prongs - no messy cords to cope with. I’ve used this for a least a
couple of years with no issues. Charging speed compared to OEM? I
have no idea. I put the battery in, eventually it is ready, I take it
out and repeat as needed with additional batteries.But I don’t think
it is appreciably slower than the Pentax charger.  Do the D-Li90’s
get as completely charged? Over-charged? Do they hold the charge as
long? Again, I have no idea. That is why I carry spare batteries so I
needn’t worry about such details. My spares are mostly OEM with 1-2
3rd party purchased via BH IIRC. Never any issues. The only
non-Pentax that I can lay my hands on at the moment is labeled
Watson, 7.4v, 1800mAh.

stan

On Mar 27, 2014, at 6:16 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:


On 3/27/2014 1:27 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:


I though the K20D battery took a long time to fully charge.

Started to do some research and then decided ask the people who
know.



I bought some third party batteries for my K-5 on eBay (they're
branded 'DSTE').  I haven't noticed any difference in performance
or charging time in comparison with the OEM Pentax battery - not
that I've done any specific tests.




What about a charger for the D-LI90 battery? Is there a good
aftermarket charger available?

I looked on the Pentax site and it seems like the Pentax chargers
are out of stock.

Also, what about a charger that would work off the 12V socket in
the car? (Assuming there's a time when it's not in use powering a
cell phone, gps, etc.)



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Re: Recommendations for a Third party K-5 battery

I bought a battery through Amazon that claims 2800 mAH and the box
(High Voltage Technologies) says 2900 mAH. I haven't managed to run
it down yet, but I've only had a couple of 4-5 hours shoots so far.

Cost under $20 Canadian, free shipping. The OEM battery is easily four
times that price here.

http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B004F0EX5O


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 7:51 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:
 For the D-Li50s that powered the K10D/K20D I have 5 batteries  3
 chargers. I have the two Pentax chargers that came with the cameras and
 an after-market charger I bought that has the folding prongs for 110VAC
 and plug-in adapter for the 12VDC in the car.

 The only non-Pentax battery I have is a Konica Minolta NP-400 1500mAh.
 I've never noticed it being any different than the Pentax branded
 batteries. The Pentax batteries came with the K10D, the K20D, the K20D
 battery grip and Wolf Camera when it was going out of business.

 I like being able to keep the spare battery on the charger even in the
 car. That way the length of time it takes to charge becomes moot.

 I'd like to be able to do the same for the D-Li90s. The cost of the
 Pentax branded batteries doesn't bother me that much, given that I've
 not yet seen any of the aftermarket batteries with a higher rated capacity.


 On 3/27/2014 7:14 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

 I have a Pearstone charger for D-Li90’s. The same basic charger is
 sold with various slide-in clip-in battery cradles for various
 battery styles. The unit plugs directly into the wall with fold-out
 prongs - no messy cords to cope with. I’ve used this for a least a
 couple of years with no issues. Charging speed compared to OEM? I
 have no idea. I put the battery in, eventually it is ready, I take it
 out and repeat as needed with additional batteries.But I don’t think
 it is appreciably slower than the Pentax charger.  Do the D-Li90’s
 get as completely charged? Over-charged? Do they hold the charge as
 long? Again, I have no idea. That is why I carry spare batteries so I
 needn’t worry about such details. My spares are mostly OEM with 1-2
 3rd party purchased via BH IIRC. Never any issues. The only
 non-Pentax that I can lay my hands on at the moment is labeled
 Watson, 7.4v, 1800mAh.

 stan

 On Mar 27, 2014, at 6:16 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:

 On 3/27/2014 1:27 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

 Quoting P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:

 I though the K20D battery took a long time to fully charge.

 Started to do some research and then decided ask the people who
 know.



 I bought some third party batteries for my K-5 on eBay (they're
 branded 'DSTE').  I haven't noticed any difference in performance
 or charging time in comparison with the OEM Pentax battery - not
 that I've done any specific tests.



 What about a charger for the D-LI90 battery? Is there a good
 aftermarket charger available?

 I looked on the Pentax site and it seems like the Pentax chargers
 are out of stock.

 Also, what about a charger that would work off the 12V socket in
 the car? (Assuming there's a time when it's not in use powering a
 cell phone, gps, etc.)


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Re: BESO - Cone of Shame or Cone of Happiness?

2014-03-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele


LOL!  Pr doggie!

That's quite adorable, though.

ann

On 3/27/2014 13:43, Christine Nielsen wrote:

Hell out there!

It's been a long, cold winter here, and my photo mojo has been MIA for a while. 
Last week, I found inspiration in the strangest of places - The Cone of Shame. 
Wally the Dog had surgery, and has been sentenced to wearing one of those 
aggravating Elizabethan collars as he heals.  My kids have been getting 
creative with it, and I have been shooting the results.  I've even resurrected 
my long-neglected blog for posting the images.

So, for your amusement...

  http://www.crapmanagement.com

If nothing else, I've finally busted out the new-to-me 31mm ltd, which I 
enabled myself with earlier this winter, thanks to Miserere... I think I'm 
gonna like it.

:)
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Re: PESO: Bug on a Flower

2014-03-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele


Ahem - make that _insect_ on a flower puleeze :-)

Looks something like a Katydid to me - or a leaf hopper?
But imagine your little beasties down there are a bit different than 
ours. cute little guy


ann

On 3/27/2014 16:47, David Mann wrote:

Here's a bug I found on a marigold flower a few weeks ago.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/790/#peso

I had to do a bit of contortion to get this view.  As usually happens I took 
two photos and preferred the composition of the first but the second had better 
focus.

Cheers,
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Re: Photoshop fakery in big prize winner?

2014-03-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele


fake or real, I wouldn't have shelled out that much for that photo..

ann

On 3/27/2014 18:35, John wrote:

On 3/27/2014 12:51 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Have a look:
http://petapixel.com/2014/03/18/hipa-grand-prize-winner-looks-like-may-big-photoshop-fail/


I'm just about to head off to class but to me this looks like a
photoshop fake that one of my students would do (not very good, that
is).




Gotta' wonder about the judges that they couldn't see it.



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Re: OT:Linux


On 3/27/2014 12:13 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote:


 There seems to be an Ubuntu Studio distribution, which is geared
towards Audio, Graphics, Photography, etc.  However I have the feeling
that the only difference between this and the classical Ubuntu is
the default packages that come installed, maybe some menus, and the
bling;  else they (and the others like Kubuntu, etc.) share the same
software packages.

   http://ubuntustudio.org/

 Ciprian.

That looks like it has darktable and a photo organizer called shotwell - 
I was planning on trying dark table and I'll shotwell to the list of 
things to try as well. If I wind up re-installing I might try this 
studio dist instead of vanilla Ubuntu. Thanks - Mark


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Re: OT:Linux

A Pentium 3 is getting pretty long in the tooth, but I'm not sure what 
the minimum standards for various Linux builds are. My scanning machine 
is an Athlong 64 X2 4200+ and it is too old for Win 8.1 - lacks some 
instruction set that is now required. It is still a pretty decent 
machine, though.


Mark

On 3/27/2014 5:44 PM, John wrote:

I ran across one called AV Linux that is aimed at multimedia production.
I don't know how well suited it would be for still photography.

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=avlinux

I mean, still photography is a component of multimedia isn't it?

I was looking for something I could do with the old computers my mom no
longer needs  was searching for audio recording tools. AV Linux looked
real interesting.

But, I don't think that old Pentium 3 system is powerful enough to run 
it,

even if I maxed out the memory. It's just too old, too obsolete. I have
the feeling that it is fated for the scrap heap sooner, rather than 
later.


Apparently, even Linux has minimum hardware requirements.

I have more hope for the other system.



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Re: K-3 and CS3 fail


Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:


Here?s a K-3 DNG for you:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/79914167/_IMG2191.DNG



Thanks Paul (and Stan).  Both of those DNGs opened fine in CS3, so not  
sure why Bob's friend is having problems (unless he is, in fact, using  
PEFs).



Cheers

Brian

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Paul
On Mar 27, 2014, at 7:04 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:


Quoting John johnsess...@yahoo.com:


Still, that begs the question about K-3 DNG files.

Isn't the whole idea of DNG files was that they were supposed to be
compatible with any software that processed DNG files without having to
worry about the files from newer cameras not working?



That was the theory as I understood it.  I'd like to get hold of a  
K-3 DNG to try it on my copy of CS3.



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Re: The use of Canned gas for cleaning sensors


Quoting Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com:

One of the things that will turn grown men into mewling kittens is  
any mention of using canned gas as a dust removing method for cameras.


Don't do it, they say, it is instant death for your camera.  
Sometimes so stridently that one would think they were having kittens.


But really, how unsafe is it? What is the very worst case scenario?  
How about a blast of liquid straight from the can?


I invite you to watch a  short 1 minute (very amateur) video. The  
white blast at the 15 second mark is a blast from an upside down  
canned gas container being unloaded into the mirror box of a Pentax  
*istD camera.


The camera suffered absolutely no ill effects from this abuse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI3rk1sAPxc

as always, have fun.



Bill's mentioned this several times over the years, so a couple of  
years ago I took a deep breath, crossed fingers and toes and cleaned  
the sensor of my *ist DS with Dust-Off.  No problems.


Not long after that I bought a K200D and later a K-5 and found that  
the in-camera the dust removal was effective enough (especially with  
the K-5) that I've never needed to repeat the exercise.  I'm happy to  
clean up the few persistent dust spots in post.



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Re: BESO - Cone of Shame or Cone of Happiness?

2014-03-27 Thread Christine Nielsen

Thanks, guys... and Ann!

Poor Wally, indeed.  He puts up with a lot.  :)

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 LOL!  Pr doggie!

 That's quite adorable, though.

 ann


 On 3/27/2014 13:43, Christine Nielsen wrote:

 Hell out there!

 It's been a long, cold winter here, and my photo mojo has been MIA for a
 while. Last week, I found inspiration in the strangest of places - The Cone
 of Shame. Wally the Dog had surgery, and has been sentenced to wearing one
 of those aggravating Elizabethan collars as he heals.  My kids have been
 getting creative with it, and I have been shooting the results.  I've even
 resurrected my long-neglected blog for posting the images.

 So, for your amusement...

   http://www.crapmanagement.com

 If nothing else, I've finally busted out the new-to-me 31mm ltd, which I
 enabled myself with earlier this winter, thanks to Miserere... I think I'm
 gonna like it.

 :)
 -c

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 http://facebook.com/ChristineNielsenPhotography



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Re: Recommendations for a Third party K-5 battery

2014-03-27 Thread steve harley


on 2014-03-27 18:28 Bruce Walker wrote

I bought a battery through Amazon that claims 2800 mAH and the box
(High Voltage Technologies) says 2900 mAH. I haven't managed to run
it down yet, but I've only had a couple of 4-5 hours shoots so far.


earlier today, i saw some 2800mAh D-Li90s on eBay for $8.50 shipped; they are 
DSTE brand, seller tianlin2010, and i can't vouch for them, but if i were 
buying today and not in a hurry (free shipping from Hong Kong), i'd get them



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Re: K-3 and CS3 fail

So one solution seems to be to shoot PEFs, batch convert to DNG with  
the latest Adobe DNG Converter and then open them in CS3.


Why not just capture in DNG and use the Adobe convertor?

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org

Subject: Re: K-3 and CS3 fail



Quoting Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com:


A friend tells me the DGN's from his new K-3 can't be processed in CS3.
Any suggestions???
Regards,  Bob S.



I don't have a K-3 but this is an interesting problem so I downloaded  
a K-3 PEF from Pentax Forums  
(http://www.pentaxforums.com/news/pentax-k-3-full-size-samples.html).   
As expected, CS3 couldn't open the PEF file so then I ran it through  
the latest DNG Converter.  The resultant DNG opened in CS3 without  
problems.


So one solution seems to be to shoot PEFs, batch convert to DNG with  
the latest Adobe DNG Converter and then open them in CS3.


I'm not sure if DNG Converter will convert K-3 DNGs to CS3-compatible  
DNGs, so this solution might not help with any existing RAWs that your  
friend has.  He might have to use the Silkypix software that came with  
the K-3 to process those DNGs.



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Re: K-3 and CS3 fail


His K3 DNGs have to work in CS3.

My K3 DNGS won't work in CS2.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: K-3 and CS3 fail



On 26/03/2014 10:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

A friend tells me the DGN's from his new K-3 can't be processed in CS3.
Any suggestions???
Regards,  Bob S.

Tell him to set the camera for DNG rather than PEF. His K3 DNGs have to 
work in CS3. I was able to process K3 DNGs in CS (though it took a 
while, slow computer, big files).


bill



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Re: Recommendations for a Third party K-5 battery

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From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: Recommendations for a Third party K-5 battery

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:

The Sony A7 is another power hog. I bought a Wasabi set

I would imagine that's the hot setup...

Another pun thread is going to get a chili reception. But my own kit
bag is peppered with spare non-OEM batteries.

I'll salt that away for future reference.

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Re: The use of Canned gas for cleaning sensors


On 27/03/2014 8:50 PM, Brian Walters wrote:


Not long after that I bought a K200D and later a K-5 and found that the
in-camera the dust removal was effective enough (especially with the
K-5) that I've never needed to repeat the exercise.  I'm happy to clean
up the few persistent dust spots in post.


I'm happy to report that I haven't had to clean a sensor in several 
years, it seems. Even the little Fuji has an ultrasonic cleaner that 
appears to work.


bill

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Re: PESO: Bug on a Flower

Here's another one I saw today, on the back of a small sunflower.  He/she is a 
bit smaller than the other one.

I took a couple of photos but didn't quite nail the focus.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/791/#peso

There were a few of them out there so I might get a few more chances in days to 
come.

Cheers,
Dave

On Mar 28, 2014, at 1:38 pm, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 Ahem - make that _insect_ on a flower puleeze :-)
 
 Looks something like a Katydid to me - or a leaf hopper?
 But imagine your little beasties down there are a bit different than ours. 
 cute little guy
 
 ann
 
 On 3/27/2014 16:47, David Mann wrote:
 Here's a bug I found on a marigold flower a few weeks ago.
 
 http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/790/#peso
 
 I had to do a bit of contortion to get this view.  As usually happens I took 
 two photos and preferred the composition of the first but the second had 
 better focus.
 
 Cheers,
 Dave
 
 
 
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Re: Photoshop fakery in big prize winner?


On 27/03/2014 6:39 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

fake or real, I wouldn't have shelled out that much for that photo..


As always, Ann gets right to the heart of the matter. :)


bill

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Re: PESO: Moving House


On 27/03/2014 2:38 PM, David Mann wrote:

It's amazing the lengths they'll go to to move a house around here...

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/789/#peso

Cheers,
Dave



That is one bad ass balloon. It would be a bitch to keep in the air though.

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Re: PESO -- Special Pleading.


On 27/03/2014 5:33 PM, John wrote:

I had a Bouvier des Flandres that looked a lot like that when his coat
was trimmed.

Same kind of personality I think. A six foot fence would keep him from
going over, but I ended up having to trench around the perimeter and add
a skirt underground to keep him from tunneling under.

He was the most lovable dog, but VERY HIGH MAINTENANCE; required hours
of combing every day to keep the coat from matting, and he didn't very
much like being groomed.

I wonder if an invisible fence would work. I worry about dogs on the
loose nowadays. It has become a dangerous world out there.


The problem with them is that if the dog is aroused enough to bull 
through the fence, it likely won't have the drive to return through it. 
Now the fence has become a powerful incentive to move someplace else.


I'm not above using shock therapy on a dog, but I don't think the shock 
fences are a good idea.



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Re: OT:Linux

On Mar 28, 2014, at 1:10 am, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

 Thanks, Dave - I actually didn't know about Virtual box so that's one 
 reason...  But on the hardware side the Nikon scanner is Firewire and backup 
 Canoscan is either USB 1.1 or SCSI (when I used it I used SCSI). So the 
 hardware issues moved me to put the scanner on a separate machine. I have not 
 yet tested the SCSI card in Ubuntu.

Firewire is a popular feature request but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for 
it.  It's why I have to keep an old scanner machine too :)

I'd expect the SCSI card to work in Linux but won't offer any guarantees!

Cheers,
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Re: K-3 and CS3 fail


On 27/03/2014 4:08 PM, John wrote:

On 3/27/2014 1:23 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com:


A friend tells me the DGN's from his new K-3 can't be processed in
CS3. Any suggestions??? Regards,  Bob S.



I don't have a K-3 but this is an interesting problem so I downloaded
a K-3 PEF from Pentax Forums
(http://www.pentaxforums.com/news/pentax-k-3-full-size-samples.html).
 As expected, CS3 couldn't open the PEF file so then I ran it through
the latest DNG Converter.  The resultant DNG opened in CS3 without
problems.

So one solution seems to be to shoot PEFs, batch convert to DNG with
the latest Adobe DNG Converter and then open them in CS3.

I'm not sure if DNG Converter will convert K-3 DNGs to CS3-compatible
 DNGs, so this solution might not help with any existing RAWs that
your friend has.  He might have to use the Silkypix software that
came with the K-3 to process those DNGs.




Still, that begs the question about K-3 DNG files.

Isn't the whole idea of DNG files was that they were supposed to be
compatible with any software that processed DNG files without having to
worry about the files from newer cameras not working?



Bob's friend is doing something wrong.
The image linked below is a DNG conversion through CS3 on my old laptop.
Other than being slow, there were no problems.

bill

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