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On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:27 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

> "Ephesus" sounded Greek to me (literally, literally!)


Of course, Ephesus, along with much of modern Turkey, including Istanbul,
was indeed very Greek 2,000 years ago.  It a Roman colony during its
heyday, and an important outpost of early Christianity, under the aegis of
St Paul.

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Re: PESO: Arch





 Daniel J. Matyola Thu, 08 Sep 2016 14:56:49 -0700 wrote:


I can crop out some of the top, although that will mean either cropping the
sides as well, which I do not want to do, or leaving the image a lot wider
than it is high (which is not necessarily bad).


That's exactly why I had reservations about _cropping_ in my followup 
response to Ken's message. I am not that keen on extremely elongated 
images, unless the subject warrants that (such as a panorama).



The scene was backlit, and I had trouble seeing and focusing, so I 
didn't compose it well.


Before you've written this, I actually had thought the exposure was 
handled very well (and I still think that way).




Thanks for looking, Igor, and for your helpful comments.  I must, however,
point out that Ephesus in in Turkey, not Greece.  


Oops! That shows my ignorance.
I was in a rush, and didn't look up what and where that is.
"Ephesus" sounded Greek to me (literally, literally!)
So, having seen a bunch of your photos from Greece recently, I just 
assumed that it was from Greece.

Although, now, having googled it, I confirmed that it _WAS_ a Greek city!
So, the corrected statement should be:

... you've left Greece already, and so has Ephesus. :-)

Cheers,

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Re: Arch

2016-09-08 Thread ann sanfedele

When I saw the comments about cropping a bit (before I actually looked 
at it) i moved it around to see if I agreed with the suggested trim 
offthe top... which drew -my- eye to the little puff of black smoke 
above the center of the top of the arch... , which caused me also to not 
the blackening of thestone in some of the crannies... I accepted the 
missing chink as part of the pattern.


ann


On 9/8/2016 11:34 AM, Alan C wrote:
It's interesting how people see things differently. The first thing I 
focused on was the missing block.


Alan C

-Original Message- From: Ken Waller
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Subject: Re: PESO: Arch

I agree Igor. Cutting out about half of the blank sky above the arch 
would be an improvement by forcing the eye to concentrate more on the 
arch.



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From: Igor PDML-StR 
Subject: PESO: Arch


Dan,

It's a fine image, nicely taken.
But from the moment I saw it, I couldn't get rid of the desire to 
reframe

it so that the arch would move up (leaving less empty space at the top).
I am not sure, it is likely that that would bring some portion of the
top of the arch (maybe the top of the head?) to the 2/3 horizontal 
line)?


(And I understand that you've left Greece already...)

Cheers,

Igor


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Architectural detail:
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Re: PESO: Arch

2016-09-08 Thread Mark Roberts

John wrote:

>If they're not in the British Museum, I'd look under Mario Draghi's desk.

Are they arch rivals?

>On 9/8/2016 1:27 AM, Alan C wrote:
>> Quite striking. Did you nick the missing block?
>>
>> Alan C
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola
>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 5:00 AM
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>> Subject: PESO: Arch
>>
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Re: The Prisoner is now 50 years old.

2016-09-08 Thread Bob W-PDML

The whole thing is a flashback explaining exactly what happened last year in 
Marienbad.

B

> On 8 Sep 2016, at 20:20, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> I like the finale.  There are no answers, and questions are a burden on
> others.
> 

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Re: PESO: Arch

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 2:34 PM, John  wrote:

> If they're not in the British Museum


That is still a sensitive subject in Greece.  They will never forgive the
Brits for stealing the Elgin Marbles.

They are, of course, spectacular.  After I saw them in the BM, I went back
again later on that trip and then a third time when we visited London in
February primarily to see the theater.

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Re: PESO: Arch

Thanks, Bob, and tanks for the pun.

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On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:34 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> Capital!
>
> > On 8 Sep 2016, at 04:01, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> >
> > Architectural detail:
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Re: PESO: Arch

Thank you also, Ken and Alan, for your comments.

As I said, Alan, the missing block adds interest to my eye, but then I am
quite odd.


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On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

>
> Dan,
>
> It's a fine image, nicely taken.
> But from the moment I saw it, I couldn't get rid of the desire to reframe
> it so that the arch would move up (leaving less empty space at the top).
> I am not sure, it is likely that that would bring some portion of the top
> of the arch (maybe the top of the head?) to the 2/3 horizontal line)?
>
> (And I understand that you've left Greece already...)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Igor
>
>
> Daniel J. Matyola Wed, 07 Sep 2016 20:02:08 -0700 wrote:
>
> Architectural detail:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18282482=lg
> K-5 IIs. DA 18-135 zoom
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Re: PESO: Arch

Thanks, Igor.

I can crop out some of the top, although that will mean either cropping the
sides as well, which I do not want to do, or leaving the image a lot wider
than it is high (which is not necessarily bad).  The scene was backlit, and
I had trouble seeing and focusing, so I didn't compose it well.  (Also, my
wife was already moving on and grumbling that I was spending too much time
at that arch.)  The image had a bluish tint, so I ignored it on my first
go-around of my images from Ephesus.  I was looking for something the other
day, and ran across it again, and like the detain in the arch (and the
Missing Piece), so I played with it and finally got something I like.  I
will play a bit more with the placement of the arch in the frame, to see
what I can do.

Thanks for looking, Igor, and for your helpful comments.  I must, however,
point out that Ephesus in in Turkey, not Greece.  

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

>
> Dan,
>
> It's a fine image, nicely taken.
> But from the moment I saw it, I couldn't get rid of the desire to reframe
> it so that the arch would move up (leaving less empty space at the top).
> I am not sure, it is likely that that would bring some portion of the top
> of the arch (maybe the top of the head?) to the 2/3 horizontal line)?
>
> (And I understand that you've left Greece already...)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Igor
>
>
> Daniel J. Matyola Wed, 07 Sep 2016 20:02:08 -0700 wrote:
>
> Architectural detail:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18282482=lg
> K-5 IIs. DA 18-135 zoom
> Comments invited.
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Re: The Prisoner is now 50 years old.

2016-09-08 Thread Gonz

A pint of what tho?  :)


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> On 8/9/16, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Where I work we have a carbon-neutral policy, and are required to
>>collect a large pink balloon first thing in the morning, attach it to
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>>
>>At home-time it's collected by someone from facilities management, and
>>the contents are used to power the building the following day.
>>
>>Except after a curry evening, and for vegetarians, it's proved next to
>>impossible to generate enough wind by fart-power alone, so many people
>>just fill them with the guff that comes out during management meetings.
>>
>>Occasionally one escapes and bounces Rover-like through the West End of
>>London, causing all sorts of nervousness.
>
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Re: The Prisoner is now 50 years old.

Well, FWIW, I loved Lost almost as much as the Prisoner.

BTW, any Ender fans here?  Anyone else read the new prequel that come out
last month?


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On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 4:53 PM, P.J. Alling 
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> On 9/8/2016 4:41 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 4:31 PM, P.J. Alling 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Don't you mean 42?
>>>
>>
>> Of course.  I was trying to be cute and dyslexic and confusing, like the
>> finale.
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> Having watched the ending several times I think that the produces were
> told, we're out of money and the series is ending, make the best of it.
> They'd painted themselves into a corner, and tried to keep everyone from
> noticing that they ended it by ignoring the walls.
>
> In other words kind of like every episode of Lost, there was no
> overarching story, or theory of the series, just random stuff that the
> viewer attached meaning to.  At least with the Prisoner that only describes
> the last episode.
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Re: The Prisoner is now 50 years old.

2016-09-08 Thread Steve Cottrell

On 8/9/16, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Where I work we have a carbon-neutral policy, and are required to
>collect a large pink balloon first thing in the morning, attach it to
>our arses, and inflate it with fart gasses throughout the day. 
>
>At home-time it's collected by someone from facilities management, and
>the contents are used to power the building the following day.
>
>Except after a curry evening, and for vegetarians, it's proved next to
>impossible to generate enough wind by fart-power alone, so many people
>just fill them with the guff that comes out during management meetings.
>
>Occasionally one escapes and bounces Rover-like through the West End of
>London, causing all sorts of nervousness.

I love it when Bob has a pint

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Re: The Prisoner is now 50 years old.

2016-09-08 Thread P.J. Alling


On 9/8/2016 4:41 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 4:31 PM, P.J. Alling 
wrote:


Don't you mean 42?


Of course.  I was trying to be cute and dyslexic and confusing, like the
finale.

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Having watched the ending several times I think that the produces were 
told, we're out of money and the series is ending, make the best of it.  
They'd painted themselves into a corner, and tried to keep everyone from 
noticing that they ended it by ignoring the walls.


In other words kind of like every episode of Lost, there was no 
overarching story, or theory of the series, just random stuff that the 
viewer attached meaning to.  At least with the Prisoner that only 
describes the last episode.



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Re: The Prisoner is now 50 years old.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 4:31 PM, P.J. Alling 
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> Don't you mean 42?


Of course.  I was trying to be cute and dyslexic and confusing, like the
finale.

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Re: The Prisoner is now 50 years old.

2016-09-08 Thread P.J. Alling


On 9/8/2016 3:54 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 3:44 PM, mike wilson  wrote:


There's only one answer.


24


Don't you mean 42?



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Re: The Prisoner is now 50 years old.

2016-09-08 Thread Ken Waller


42

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- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: Re: The Prisoner is now 50 years old.


On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 3:44 PM, mike wilson  
wrote:



There's only one answer.



24



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On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 3:44 PM, mike wilson  wrote:

> There's only one answer.


24

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Re: The Prisoner is now 50 years old.

2016-09-08 Thread mike wilson

There's only one answer.

> On 08 September 2016 at 20:19 "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I like the finale.  There are no answers, and questions are a burden on
> others.
> 
> 
> Dan Matyola
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> 
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 3:05 PM, Mark Roberts 
> wrote:
> 
> > John wrote:
> >
> > >I generally enjoyed the series up until the final episode, which to this
> > >day is still elicits a hearty WTF?
> >
> > http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/379/what-was-the-
> > cult-tv-series-the-prisoner-all-about
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > >On 9/8/2016 5:31 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
> > >> Been to Portmeirion with the Mrs many years ago - really interesting
> > place.
> > >>
> > >> Couldn't stand the TV series - I can suspend disbelief with the best of
> > >> them but having a giant fucking beachball bouncing up and down the beach
> > >> was a step too far for me and reeked of cheapskate SFX. Much rather not
> > >> see anything at all than (effectively) the rubber-suit syndrome.
> > >>
> > >> Always wanted a Mini Moke though ;-)

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Re: The Prisoner is now 50 years old.

I like the finale.  There are no answers, and questions are a burden on
others.


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On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 3:05 PM, Mark Roberts 
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> John wrote:
>
> >I generally enjoyed the series up until the final episode, which to this
> >day is still elicits a hearty WTF?
>
> http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/379/what-was-the-
> cult-tv-series-the-prisoner-all-about
>
> ;-)
>
> >On 9/8/2016 5:31 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
> >> Been to Portmeirion with the Mrs many years ago - really interesting
> place.
> >>
> >> Couldn't stand the TV series - I can suspend disbelief with the best of
> >> them but having a giant fucking beachball bouncing up and down the beach
> >> was a step too far for me and reeked of cheapskate SFX. Much rather not
> >> see anything at all than (effectively) the rubber-suit syndrome.
> >>
> >> Always wanted a Mini Moke though ;-)
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Re: PESO: Arch

2016-09-08 Thread Ken Waller

Igor, in most cases I try to get it right in camera, but if the image is 
strong enough I have no issue cropping to suit the subject.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Igor PDML-StR" 

Subject: Re: PESO: Arch




Alan,
The brick is something that Dan is unlikely to control. :)

Ken,
I was thinking more along the lines of re-framing. I am not sure if 
cutting at this point would help: it would change the proportions of the 
photo (more panoramish). ... but maybe...


Igor





 Alan C Thu, 08 Sep 2016 08:36:04 -0700  wrote:

It's interesting how people see things differently. The first thing I
focused on was the missing block.

Alan C

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: PESO: Arch

I agree Igor. Cutting out about half of the blank sky above the arch would
be an improvement by forcing the eye to concentrate more on the arch.


-Original Message-

From: Igor PDML-StR 
Subject: PESO: Arch


Dan,

It's a fine image, nicely taken.
But from the moment I saw it, I couldn't get rid of the desire to reframe
it so that the arch would move up (leaving less empty space at the top).
I am not sure, it is likely that that would bring some portion of the
top of the arch (maybe the top of the head?) to the 2/3 horizontal line)?

(And I understand that you've left Greece already...)

Cheers,

Igor


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Re: The Prisoner is now 50 years old.

2016-09-08 Thread Mark Roberts

John wrote:

>I generally enjoyed the series up until the final episode, which to this
>day is still elicits a hearty WTF?

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/379/what-was-the-cult-tv-series-the-prisoner-all-about

;-)

>On 9/8/2016 5:31 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>> Been to Portmeirion with the Mrs many years ago - really interesting place.
>>
>> Couldn't stand the TV series - I can suspend disbelief with the best of
>> them but having a giant fucking beachball bouncing up and down the beach
>> was a step too far for me and reeked of cheapskate SFX. Much rather not
>> see anything at all than (effectively) the rubber-suit syndrome.
>>
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Re: The Prisoner is now 50 years old.

2016-09-08 Thread John


I generally enjoyed the series up until the final episode, which to this
day is still elicits a hearty WTF?

On 9/8/2016 5:31 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Been to Portmeirion with the Mrs many years ago - really interesting place.

Couldn't stand the TV series - I can suspend disbelief with the best of
them but having a giant fucking beachball bouncing up and down the beach
was a step too far for me and reeked of cheapskate SFX. Much rather not
see anything at all than (effectively) the rubber-suit syndrome.

Always wanted a Mini Moke though ;-)



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Re: PESO: Arch

2016-09-08 Thread John


If they're not in the British Museum, I'd look under Mario Draghi's desk.

On 9/8/2016 1:27 AM, Alan C wrote:

Quite striking. Did you nick the missing block?

Alan C

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Subject: PESO: Arch

Architectural detail:
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Comments invited.

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The K-3II also has the Pixel shift technology that Ricoh is putting into
all the new Pentax cameras. I don't think that that technology is
available in the K-3 even with a firmware upgrade. Whether that's a
hardware limitation or just a corporate decision to keep give the two
models greater differentiation, is left for the users to speculate.

On 9/8/2016 12:47 PM, Immanuel wrote:

Larry,

Upon further investigation, it seems the K-3 has almost the exact same
video features as the K-3ii. Correct me if I'm mistaken but it seems
the only two differences are built in GPS and longer battery life. Is
this correct?

Cheers,
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On 2016-09-04 04:54 PM, Immanuel wrote:
That does sound like a good deal. I'm looking for the high frame
rates of the K-3 though...

I'd like to buy used for economical reasons. I'm getting into doing
some video work and I've been using a K-5 (borrowed from my brother)
which produces beautiful shots but the short recording time in an
issue and the low frame rate options.

Larry, let me know if you'd be interested in selling either of your
cameras and what price you were thinking. Also, thanks for the good
tip on search tempest.

Cheers!
Immanuel

On 2016-09-04 04:10 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I have a K-5 that I'll let go for $200. Don't know if that's a good
deal, but I would think so.

Paul via phone

On Sep 4, 2016, at 5:34 PM, Paul wrote:

If you're looking to buy new, B currently beats that price on a
K-3 with the K-3ii about $150 more.

-p

On 9/4/2016 4:25 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
Far be it from me to take money out of the hands of a list member,
but Amazon has at least one vendor selling New K-3 cameras for
$735.00.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00FKLQ0LW/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8=1473024057=8-1=Pentax+K-3=new

It's coming from Taiwan so it might be an international warranty,
but even then the price is pretty much the same as you'd pay for
an Ex++ used copy.

On 9/4/2016 4:49 PM, Immanuel wrote:
I was thinking $400 — $700 if this seems reasonable. I am
interested in the K-3, although since I'll mostly be using it for
video, I like the external mic & headphone jacks that the K-3ii has.

Let me know if you'd be interested in selling either of yours!

On 2016-09-04 01:27 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Immanuel wrote:

Greetings Pentaxians,

I am looking to buy a used K-3ii and wondering if you have any
leads.
I've looked extensively on Craigslist and haven't found a
single one for

sale...
What price range are you looking at? Would you be interested in
a K-3?

I ended up with one of each, but was going to keep the K-3ii as
a backup body.

Thanks,
Immanuel

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Re: Pentax K-3

2016-09-08 Thread Immanuel

Larry,

Upon further investigation, it seems the K-3 has almost the exact same
video features as the K-3ii. Correct me if I'm mistaken but it seems the
only two differences are built in GPS and longer battery life. Is this
correct?

Cheers,
Immanuel

On 2016-09-04 04:54 PM, Immanuel wrote:
That does sound like a good deal. I'm looking for the high frame rates
of the K-3 though...

Larry, let me know if you'd be interested in selling either of your
cameras and what price you were thinking. Also, thanks for the good
tip on search tempest.

Cheers!
Immanuel

On 2016-09-04 04:10 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I have a K-5 that I'll let go for $200. Don't know if that's a good
deal, but I would think so.

Paul via phone

On Sep 4, 2016, at 5:34 PM, Paul wrote:

If you're looking to buy new, B currently beats that price on a
K-3 with the K-3ii about $150 more.

-p

On 9/4/2016 4:25 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
Far be it from me to take money out of the hands of a list member,
but Amazon has at least one vendor selling New K-3 cameras for
$735.00.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00FKLQ0LW/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8=1473024057=8-1=Pentax+K-3=new

It's coming from Taiwan so it might be an international warranty,
but even then the price is pretty much the same as you'd pay for an
Ex++ used copy.

Let me know if you'd be interested in selling either of yours!

On 2016-09-04 01:27 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Immanuel wrote:

Greetings Pentaxians,

I am looking to buy a used K-3ii and wondering if you have any
leads.
I've looked extensively on Craigslist and haven't found a single
one for

sale...
What price range are you looking at? Would you be interested in
a K-3?

I ended up with one of each, but was going to keep the K-3ii as a
backup body.

Thanks,
Immanuel

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Re: The Prisoner is now 50 years old.

have you no politicians to fill the bags for you?


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On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> On 8 Sep 2016, at 12:43, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Steve Cottrell 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Couldn't stand the TV series - I can suspend disbelief with the best of
> >> them but having a giant fucking beachball bouncing up and down the beach
> >> was a step too far for me and reeked of cheapskate SFX. Much rather not
> >> see anything at all than (effectively) the rubber-suit syndrome.
> >
> > In the cube farm where I work, some people went through a phase of
> > sitting on a large inflatable ball rather than a chair. One person,
> > having given up on the idea, wedged their translucent white ball
> > between the top of their cube and the ceiling, so it hovered
> > menacingly over the walkway. I was always a bit unnerved walking past.
> >
>
> Where I work we have a carbon-neutral policy, and are required to collect
> a large pink balloon first thing in the morning, attach it to our arses,
> and inflate it with fart gasses throughout the day.
>
> At home-time it's collected by someone from facilities management, and the
> contents are used to power the building the following day.
>
> Except after a curry evening, and for vegetarians, it's proved next to
> impossible to generate enough wind by fart-power alone, so many people just
> fill them with the guff that comes out during management meetings.
>
> Occasionally one escapes and bounces Rover-like through the West End of
> London, causing all sorts of nervousness.
>
> B
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Re: The Prisoner is now 50 years old.

2016-09-08 Thread Bob W-PDML

On 8 Sep 2016, at 12:43, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>> 
>> Couldn't stand the TV series - I can suspend disbelief with the best of
>> them but having a giant fucking beachball bouncing up and down the beach
>> was a step too far for me and reeked of cheapskate SFX. Much rather not
>> see anything at all than (effectively) the rubber-suit syndrome.
> 
> In the cube farm where I work, some people went through a phase of
> sitting on a large inflatable ball rather than a chair. One person,
> having given up on the idea, wedged their translucent white ball
> between the top of their cube and the ceiling, so it hovered
> menacingly over the walkway. I was always a bit unnerved walking past.
> 

Where I work we have a carbon-neutral policy, and are required to collect a 
large pink balloon first thing in the morning, attach it to our arses, and 
inflate it with fart gasses throughout the day. 

At home-time it's collected by someone from facilities management, and the 
contents are used to power the building the following day.

Except after a curry evening, and for vegetarians, it's proved next to 
impossible to generate enough wind by fart-power alone, so many people just 
fill them with the guff that comes out during management meetings.

Occasionally one escapes and bounces Rover-like through the West End of London, 
causing all sorts of nervousness.

B
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Re: PESO: Arch



Alan,
The brick is something that Dan is unlikely to control. :)

Ken,
I was thinking more along the lines of re-framing. I am not sure if 
cutting at this point would help: it would change the proportions of the 
photo (more panoramish). ... but maybe...


Igor





 Alan C Thu, 08 Sep 2016 08:36:04 -0700  wrote:

It's interesting how people see things differently. The first thing I
focused on was the missing block.

Alan C

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Subject: Re: PESO: Arch

I agree Igor. Cutting out about half of the blank sky above the arch would
be an improvement by forcing the eye to concentrate more on the arch.


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From: Igor PDML-StR 
Subject: PESO: Arch


Dan,

It's a fine image, nicely taken.
But from the moment I saw it, I couldn't get rid of the desire to reframe
it so that the arch would move up (leaving less empty space at the top).
I am not sure, it is likely that that would bring some portion of the
top of the arch (maybe the top of the head?) to the 2/3 horizontal line)?

(And I understand that you've left Greece already...)

Cheers,

Igor


Daniel J. Matyola Wed, 07 Sep 2016 20:02:08 -0700 wrote:

Architectural detail:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18282482=lg
K-5 IIs. DA 18-135 zoom
Comments invited.




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Re: Arch

2016-09-08 Thread Alan C

It's interesting how people see things differently. The first thing I 
focused on was the missing block.


Alan C

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From: Ken Waller

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 5:28 PM
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Subject: Re: PESO: Arch

I agree Igor. Cutting out about half of the blank sky above the arch would 
be an improvement by forcing the eye to concentrate more on the arch.



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From: Igor PDML-StR 
Subject: PESO: Arch


Dan,

It's a fine image, nicely taken.
But from the moment I saw it, I couldn't get rid of the desire to reframe
it so that the arch would move up (leaving less empty space at the top).
I am not sure, it is likely that that would bring some portion of the
top of the arch (maybe the top of the head?) to the 2/3 horizontal line)?

(And I understand that you've left Greece already...)

Cheers,

Igor


Daniel J. Matyola Wed, 07 Sep 2016 20:02:08 -0700 wrote:

Architectural detail:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18282482=lg
K-5 IIs. DA 18-135 zoom
Comments invited.



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Re: PESO: Arch

2016-09-08 Thread Ken Waller

I agree Igor. Cutting out about half of the blank sky above the arch would be 
an improvement by forcing the eye to concentrate more on the arch.


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>From: Igor PDML-StR 
>Subject: PESO: Arch
>
>
>Dan,
>
>It's a fine image, nicely taken.
>But from the moment I saw it, I couldn't get rid of the desire to reframe 
>it so that the arch would move up (leaving less empty space at the top).
>I am not sure, it is likely that that would bring some portion of the 
>top of the arch (maybe the top of the head?) to the 2/3 horizontal line)?
>
>(And I understand that you've left Greece already...)
>
>Cheers,
>
>Igor
>
>
>Daniel J. Matyola Wed, 07 Sep 2016 20:02:08 -0700 wrote:
>
>Architectural detail:
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18282482=lg
>K-5 IIs. DA 18-135 zoom
>Comments invited.


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Re: PESO - Enmeshed #1

Thank you very much, Ken!

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> Great work Bruce. Some very,very good images. Great lighting, great subjects 
> and poses.
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: Bruce Walker 
>>Subject: PESO - Enmeshed #1
>>
> >From a series I'm calling Body Language.
>>
>>http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I1XDXAVxsYUs
>>
>>(100% safe for viewing anywhere, in case you're concerned.)
>>
>>645Z, DFA645 55mm/2.8, f:11, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO
>>Three gridded reflectors.
>>
>>Comments are welcome.
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Re: PESO - Enmeshed #1

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 11:27 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> on akneed to know basis?

I'll go out on a limb and say yes.


> nice geometry
>
> ann

Thank you, Ann.


> On 9/7/2016 11:01 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
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>> >From a series I'm calling Body Language.
>>
>> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I1XDXAVxsYUs
>>
>> (100% safe for viewing anywhere, in case you're concerned.)
>>
>> 645Z, DFA645 55mm/2.8, f:11, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO
>> Three gridded reflectors.
>>
>> Comments are welcome.

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Re: PESO - Enmeshed #1

> Perhaps it's samon you know?

Salmon, of course. Now it's spoiled.

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Re: PESO - Enmeshed #1

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> On 7/9/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >From a series I'm calling Body Language.
>>
>>http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I1XDXAVxsYUs
>
> Curious image, warrants further inspection. A tad low-key for my taste
> but I like the subtle highlights.

I spent some time going back and forth with the overall brightness. I
desired to emphasize the highlights for shape and 3D effect, but when
I increased the brightness the highlights faded too much. So I opted
for a lower key look.

> Reminds me of a fish catch for some reason!

Perhaps it's samon you know?

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PESO: Arch



Dan,

It's a fine image, nicely taken.
But from the moment I saw it, I couldn't get rid of the desire to reframe 
it so that the arch would move up (leaving less empty space at the top).
I am not sure, it is likely that that would bring some portion of the 
top of the arch (maybe the top of the head?) to the 2/3 horizontal line)?


(And I understand that you've left Greece already...)

Cheers,

Igor


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Re: GESO -- Memorial Day 2016