RE: 77mm 1.8 vs 85 mm f1.4
There's always the 105 F2.0 DC lens with adjustable spherical abberation. I hear it's very nice. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rob Brigham Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 5:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 77mm 1.8 vs 85 mm f1.4 Can anyone recommend a good portrait lens in this range which is perhaps a bit kinder to the subject? Or would you recommend just putting a soft focus filter or stockings or something over the lens? Alternatively, I could do stuff in photoshop I suppose, but when shooting negs I like to get 6*4s to put in the album when the film is developed, and only spend my time scanning and tweaking for exceptional shots. Ideally a sharp lens with some form of softening/diffusing 'filter' would be most versatile as I could stil have the sharpness when I want it, but my main goal is for a fast portrait lens only in this case, and if another (possibly cheaper) lens would do the job better then I may consider it. 50mm is too short for me though - I want one in the 75-100mm range. -Original Message- From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 08 March 2002 09:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 77mm 1.8 vs 85 mm f1.4 OK, so I am going to finally buy a great portrait lens. I still have not firmly decided which of the two to go for, although I am leaning towards the 85mm for it's faster speed and focal length. What are the reasons why I should even consider the 77mm 1.8; it seems a bit overpriced. 1) It's slighty cheaper than the FA*85/1.4. 2) The 77 is generally a sharper lens at all distance so it's great for many things. 3) Light and compact mean great balance on even small bodies. 4) Much smaller and cheaper 49mm filters. 5) The aperture ring is much easier to operate too. 6) The almost circle shape aperture blades at large aperture. 7) Nice bokeh (no, the FA*85 is not consistant on this one) Is it built better? Yes, at least there is no stick-on window to fall/peel off. Ask Pal and u will know. It feels like those good old M lenses. Is it sharper? Certainly, could be too sharp for most women though. regards, Alan Chan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: The e-ffects on retail pricing
I went to Penn in Rockville about 2 months ago to play with their MZ-S, so they at least had one at that time. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul F. Stregevsky Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 12:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The e-ffects on retail pricing snip supplies and film but their camera selection is limited to Nikon and Canon, with a few Leicas and Contax thrown in for show. Used? N, C and M. Last time I was there they had one ME Super and one 135mm Takumar and 0 MF and there prices were high. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 77mm 1.8 vs 85 mm f1.4
Sorry, I (of course) knew this was a Nikkor lens, and thought it would be a little light-hearted jab at a lens I wish Pentax would make. I've already received a couple of private e-mails from people asking about this lens. I thought everyone would get the joke. Sorry if anyone got their hopes up. :( Go ahead, throw your tomatoes now...ducking. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alan Chan Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 6:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 77mm 1.8 vs 85 mm f1.4 There's always the 105 F2.0 DC lens with adjustable spherical abberation. I hear it's very nice. I only know Nikkors DC. Never knew Pentax made any. But then DC is not a soft focus lens either. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: The Kodak talk
Hmmm. This local lab I go to is a small store also. I wonder if that might have something to do with their opinion about Kodak films The only thing that still bothers me a little about what the owner told me, is that recently, I have had a couple instances of specs on a random frame of T-Max here and there that I develop myself. I guess the jury is still out on this one. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bruce Dayton Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:32 AM To: Ed Mathews Subject: Re: The Kodak talk snip The camera store where I bought my 67II did give me a different Kodak talk. They have quit carrying Kodak films because of Kodak's requirement of carrying more films than they could sell. I believe Aaron experienced similar problems. Because of that, they mostly carry Fuji. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Switching to Pentax
And this little piece of junk also has a mirror pre-fire. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 9:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Switching to Pentax - Original Message - From: Ed Mathews Subject: RE: Switching to Pentax I'm not saying this just to be a anti Pentax jerk, but I feel I need to state it: My late father's one and only SLR was a new Nikon EM, and I still have it, and my kids still use it when they want to shoot with an SLR. It has NEVER seen a CLA, and I've replaced the battery only twice. It exposes perfectly and has never failed or produced a negative I could say was bad due to the camera. AND it accepts all my current AF Nikkor lenses with full camera functions. I suspect many could say the same about their old K-1000 too. Inexpensive does not necessarily mean junk. The camera that goes byup, byup. My wifes old boss had one of those. The only problem with the EM was that it was AE only. It was actually a pretty tough little camera. A knowedgable operator could set the aperture where he wanted it, then dial in the shutter speed using the ISO dial. The advantage of the EM was that it didn't have the flexible curcuit board that the FG/ FG20 had, which is what made that series so unreliable. The downside is that full camera functions is pretty limited on that camera. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Switching to Pentax
All AF Nikkors have always had an aperture lock. And Nikon has great compatibility amongst most of their bodies. I can use all my current AF lenses on my 20 year old F3 with full function, and old AI lenses from the 70's work fine on my F100. Sure, they have some issues with their amateur line cameras, but the people that buy those are by and large not looking for complete compatibility with old stuff anyway. And Pentax has some issues with some of their cheapest AF bodies also. I think both Pentax and Nikon need to be commended on their compatibility between most bodies for older and newer items working together, especially comparing AF and non AF items. They are in a different league than Canon and Minolta in this regard. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 10:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Switching to Pentax snip That was one of those things I never did figure out. Minolta MD lenses had an aperture lock, as did Canon FD lenses, and of course Pentax A lenses. Nikon, in their wisdom, never added this to their lenses. Interestingly, it has been the aperture coupling that has buggered up Nikons lens/body intercompatability, which is very Hoover like, with entire lens series being unusable on most bodies since the advent of the AI lenses. It was this incompatability issue that helped drive me from Nikon to Pentax in the first place. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Switching to Pentax
I'm not saying this just to be a anti Pentax jerk, but I feel I need to state it: My late father's one and only SLR was a new Nikon EM, and I still have it, and my kids still use it when they want to shoot with an SLR. It has NEVER seen a CLA, and I've replaced the battery only twice. It exposes perfectly and has never failed or produced a negative I could say was bad due to the camera. AND it accepts all my current AF Nikkor lenses with full camera functions. I suspect many could say the same about their old K-1000 too. Inexpensive does not necessarily mean junk. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of T Rittenhouse Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 7:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Switching to Pentax At one time the was the Nikon F. It was the only SLR Nikon made. The made two RFs back in those days but the difference was features, not quality. Nikon meant quality. Then Marketing looked around and said, Nikon means quality, we will produce junk cameras with the Nikon name on them, the unwashed will not know the difference. An behold, they were right, the unwashed show you their EM and said it's a Nikon! Then all the other Makers, said this is good! And proceed to make all kinds of cameras with their names on them. Most were cheap junk, but a few who were known for cheap junk actually made quality cameras and put their names on them. The fell by the wayside for the unwashed said, look how much they want for that cheap junk camer when I can get a Nikon for half the price. The moral of this story? The unwashed get what they deserve, screwed. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Portra Films
I've been using Portra 160NC lately, and found the color to very, very neutral. My negative scans are also excellent with this film, so maybe my scanner is also matched to Kodak? g. It just seems like a great film to me, and exposure has been terrific at the rated 160. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of tom Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 1:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Portra Films I went to the lab today to pick up some color proofs, and the guy who owns and runs the place took me aside. Tom, we need to have the Portra talk. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Adorama RC paper?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of tom Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 3:24 PM snip Cheapskate. Hey, I really represent that comment. What's the job? Some really cool promotional action shots I'm doing for my coworkers in the porn industry. You wouldn't believe what that stuff looks like with high speed flash synch at 1/8000. g Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: PMA News
You can buy one here: http://www.canogacamera.com/e/env/0001-435951-2967599013-77566631-2247-9 z5O3/price_list/grp074_75_list.html?link=%2e%2e/info_pages/cam_info.html item=invnew:27083 Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Butch Black Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:10 PM To: Pentax discussion group Subject: RE: PMA News For those that are interested Digital Photography Review; www.dpreview.com has some info on the Nikon D-100. Of most interest is their listing it as a prosumer model with competitive pricing, but no list price available yet. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Taking an interlude from the PDML.
Godspeed, my friend. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: auth 584e5e78 subscribe pentax-discuss thewho_@hotmail.com
So, you were the who AKA, Gregory all along? Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Oliver Raymond Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 12:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: auth 584e5e78 subscribe pentax-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] bugger. i guess the secrets out... I am an idiot... - Original Message - From: Oliver Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 12:50 PM Subject: auth 584e5e78 subscribe pentax-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] auth 584e5e78 subscribe pentax-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Popular Photography 31/1.8 Limited test (WAS: Re: Pentax a best ever prime lens at Pop?)
No, it's not lines per millimeter, it's their SQF numbers. SQF is Pop Photo's Subjective Quality Factor. It's a number based on MTF and converted to a system meant to show what you should expect in different size enlargements. It's like a grade in a class you take, where 90 + is an A, 80-89 is a B, etc. It's just meant to make it easier to see where the strengths and weaknesses are, and see how big an enlargement you can make before you lose grade A quality. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of T Rittenhouse Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 8:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Popular Photography 31/1.8 Limited test (WAS: Re: Pentax a best ever prime lens at Pop?) lpm snip - Original Message - From: Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 6:32 PM Subject: RE: Popular Photography 31/1.8 Limited test (WAS: Re: Pentax a best ever prime lens at Pop?) Ed, What does the number between the f/stop and the letter grade stand for? snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-S and infrared
Has anybody actually tried to shoot high speed infrared with the MZ-S yet? How much fogging? Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Misfocussing with 43mm limited?
No, I've never even heald a PZ-1 or PZ-1N. I used to own an SF-1 and an SF-1N, and don't remember any problem with them. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 11:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Misfocussing with 43mm limited? Ed, Maybe it's time for the MZ-Sn? In any case this is very bad. Do you have any experience with the PZ-1p or the PZ-1? I haven't used the 43mm or 77mm much on these bodies. I guess that I'll have to check it out. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Misfocussing with 43mm limited?
Nope - it's not that. The central sensor is all I ever use on my ZX-5N because the outer ones suck at locking on to most things I shoot. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paris, Leonard Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 12:12 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Misfocussing with 43mm limited? I'd rather think that the problems are being caused by unfamiliarity with cameras using more than a central area for autofocussing. I got so used to locking focus on my subject snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Part for Besler Enlarger
http://www.beseler-photo.com/ Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of T Rittenhouse Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 7:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Part for Besler Enlarger Beselar is still in business, and most of the parts are interchangable. I do not have the URL, try a google search. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: True professional
That's a bit of a stretch. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ken Archer A photographer becomes a professional like a girl becomes a prostitute. First, he does it to please himself, then to please friends and finally for money.--Arthur Rothstein snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Held an MZ-S last night...
No. A diopter adjustment can only help with near and far-sightedness - not astigmatism. Astigmatism is caused by a cornea that is not spherical and has flat spots or steep spots, or any combination of these. It is highly individualized and specific to a portion of the eyeball, and no camera viewfinder an correct for it. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen Moore snip I've also got a mild astigmatism, so the NOT(wink) question I've been wanting to ask for a long time is whether a simple diopter would help me (e.g., getting an FA-1W for the LX)? snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Why do you choose or stay in Pentax ?
Yes. I thought I quoted that portion of Cesar's message. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of tom Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 10:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Why do you choose or stay in Pentax ? snip I thought Ed was talking about the Nikon 105Cesar said he only really liked one of his Nikons, Ed asked if it were the 105. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Why do you choose or stay in Pentax ?
105 F2.5? Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matamoros, Cesar A. Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 10:39 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Why do you choose or stay in Pentax ? snip I also have a Nikon F3 system that was given to me. There is one lens that stands out from the rest, snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Double sided Inkjet paper?
Hi, Does anybody know if any manufacturer makes an injet paper that's suitable for photos, and double sided? Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: FA 28-70/f4 AL why not F2.8?
All this discussion is based on assuming that the lens would open to F2.8 to begin with, which may not be the case at all. Sure, you can see the aperture mechanism reduce itself as you zoom toward the short end, but how do you know it would go to F2.8? What if it only went to F3.5? In that case, it certainly would make a lot more sense to keep it a constant F4.0. Personally, I'd have a hard time believing that this lens, with it's size and weight, could ever manage an F2.8. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: P67II or P645n
How often will you be making enlargements bigger than 16x20? Ever seen a 30x40 enlargement from a 35mm slide original using a 4x5 internegative? I also keep asking myself if I need medium format. Lately I've been selling off equipment I seldom use, so I've got this little stash in my camera account. Medium Format is something I've been considering, but I have to tell you - now that I've actually got the money to go and get it if I want to - I don't feel I need it. Enlargements from 4x5 internegatives can be VERY impressive also. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bruce Dayton Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 4:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: P67II or P645n snip I can say that all MF shots had it all over the 35mm stuff. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: new pics
I do love that baby in the crib. Brilliant. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Timo Hartikainen Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 1:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: new pics Hi! I have some new pics at my homepage; http://pp.hok.fi/hartikainen/kuvasivu.htm -- Timo _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What lens do you wish Pentax made?
A quality portrait lens around 105mm, Maybe F2 or F2.8. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What lens do you wish Pentax made?
I should have added: with AF. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 1:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What lens do you wish Pentax made? Would you not consider the K105/2.8, or the SMC Tak version, a quality portrait lens? Ed Mathews wrote: A quality portrait lens around 105mm, Maybe F2 or F2.8. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What lens do you wish Pentax made?
And a special plaque that comes with it, suitable for hanging on my wall. Oh, and a free toy (like a happy meal has). Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brendan Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 1:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What lens do you wish Pentax made? He wants a 101mm limited Prime in titanium with one of those green leather soft cases and non removable hoods. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Vs: Michael A.'s an ASS
And Michael is basically driving last year's car. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Christian Skofteland Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Vs: Michael A.'s an ASS snip Kimi's going to be good, for sure, but will he beat Schumi this year? I doubt it. By the way, your yong Finn was unable to keep up the pace. Yes, he has the track record but in the subsequent testing days when Michael was driving he failed to finish first in the times again. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: SMCP-67 75mm f2.8 AL bokeh examples
I think a lot of lenses do this, and most of us have never noticed. Maybe we discovered it here? Should we call this PDML Distortion? Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Aaron Reynolds Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 7:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SMCP-67 75mm f2.8 AL bokeh examples snip Yeah, that's what I was getting at. So, I suppose my 75 and your 77 have some things in common, eh? Except mine's a moderate wide angle and yours is a short telephoto... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT - Insanity test
Yes, now I recall. Seems the Porsche TAG McClaren was the most reliable of the bunch, and the BMW inline 4 in the Brabham was the most powerfull. Hard to imagine all that power in 1.5 liters. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Christian Skofteland Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 7:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - Insanity test Those were turbo V-6's in the early '80's. 1500hp in qualifying trim tuned down to 1000 in race trim Amazing. Michael Schumacher drove one as a publicity thing a couple of years ago and was scared of the power and the way it is so different than his modern ride. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Rubens (Was: Re: Insanity test)
He uses the same brutally honest approach in defense of his womanizing off the track too, and that seems to works for him also. Nobody can say he's not having his fun while he can. :) Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matjaz Osojnik Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Rubens (Was: Re: Insanity test) Yep. I liked Irvine for the same reason. Matjaz Star and Stooges I like it! You've hit it right on! I always liked Eddie Irvine because he took the money and sucked up to Michael without pretending that it was anything else... Don't get snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: drying FB prints...
Speaking of dry down, someone should do a test to see what papers suffer the most from this. I'm currently using Ilford MG FB and it seems to suffer badly from this. In fact, it appears to darken slightly even while wet and sitting in the fix or the Permawash. To get a print where I want it, I have to underexpose the paper to the point where I never believe it's ever going to come around, but it does when it's dry. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of William Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: drying FB prints... He did, to check for dry down, but only used it for work snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: drying FB prints...
So let me get this straight: You lay the wet prints on the screen and then cover them with a towel? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the screen (to allow air to circulate above and below them)? How long does it take to dry a DW print that way? Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: drying FB prints... snip You can dry them face down on fiberglass window screens (wash the screens well first to ensure there is no chaff on them). I usually just lay out a large well washed bath towel on the deep freeze outside my darkroom and put them face down on it, then lay another towel on top. The only problem with this is that sometimes the cat likes to sleep on the towel. Neither of these methods will give the high gloss that you are getting from the hot dryer. More like a low lustre. I prefer it to the high gloss, and the prints are easier to spot, and not as brittle. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: drying FB prints...
That's very similar to the drying rack I built, but I made it with black fiberglass screens stretched over wood frames. Notice that they have the print facing up, and for Fiber papers you should dry them print side down for less curl. It works pretty well, but you certainly will still get some curl. I usually make prints on 8x10 paper, so I just put them in a large heavy book after they are dry - to flatten them out nicely. But if I recall, the original post was referring to larger prints, which would require a book probably bigger than what is available. I've had that problem with 11x14 prints also, so I'm looking for a solution as well. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: drying FB prints... Here's something that takes Bill's suggestion and expands upon it somewhat. I've seen something similar recently - and if good fortune abounds I may be able to pick it for free - but in in any case, I'm sure you can use your imagination and creativity to build something similar for very little cost. http://www.infomaniak.ch/~bonavolt/papdryer.htm snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: drying FB prints...
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 7:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: drying FB prints... We first put ours in a photo blotter book until they are mostly dry and then lay them out to air dry, like overnight. Yes there is a bit snip Where do you get a photo blotter or blotter paper these days? I stopped in a local mall art supply store (Art Emporium) yesterday and they have never carried blotter paper. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT -- Really nasty virus around (defending MS)
I don't use Outlook Express, but I do use Outlook. Why? Because I can drag and drop any e-mail, task, appointment, or note into another folder and work with it there as it becomes that new item, or drag and drop between other MS applications and it all works smooth for me. I've never gotten a virus from any e-mail where I did not open the attachment, and the program also offers ways to disable the windows that offer the possibility of catching a virus. Furthermore, MS is aware of security leaks when they exist, and they are fast to respond with patches for them. Overall, I feel MS makes a good product, with decent cooperation between applications, and I think the biggest reason that these viruses are written for MS products in the first place, is because of their popularity. Who's going to write a virus for an e-mail product that few people even use? Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Frantisek Vlcek Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 7:15 AM To: Robert Harris Subject: Re: OT -- Really nasty virus around snip Even though my reply is even more off-topic, but I don't understand why people still use OE when they could for a few bucks buy an email client which is almost absolutely (well, nothing is absolute in virus/hacking/cracking world) resistant to script/html/exe/screensaver virus attacks. There snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: website - actual link
Excellent site, Alexey. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alexey Tikhonov Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 5:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: website - actual link Hello forgetting the link was a good thing to do, hehe;) http://www.altert.spb.ru/gallery/exhibitions.html -- Best regards, Alexey mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Eye relief on MZ-S
Hey, Being a spectacle wearer, I wrote to Pentax Colorado and asked them about the eyepoint on the MZ-S, as compared to something I own, the ZX-5N. They replied, the eye relief is about 5mm greater than that of the ZX-5n. I've spent very limited time with the MZ-S, so I can't recall that this feels about right in my experience, but it seems a little exaggerated to me. What is the opinion of people out there that own both cameras? Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 77 specular bokeh talk (again!)
OK Yoshihiko, I'll accept this explanation from you and Dan (mostly because I don't know any better myself and trust others on this). But I do wonder why I have only noticed it with the 43 and the 77. At some point, I would also like to see some sort of illustration showing what spherical aberration looks like, if possible. I've become intrigued by it and way too interested in it for my own good. I'm still considering buying an MZ-S, mainly so I can keep this 77 because I like it so much. As I sell more stuff and actually get the money, that decision might become even more difficult. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Yoshihiko Takinami Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 5:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 77 specular bokeh talk (again!) Hi Ed and everyone, SNIP It's not bokeh but just vignetting as Dan wrote. BTW, I was really impressed at the very smooth outlines of the football shapes of out-of-focus background spotlights while you stopped down about one and a half stops. Hope this helps. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 77 specular bokeh talk (again!)
Yup. And pretty edgy for sure. Seems you have a lot off bad bokeh luck. :) Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rob Studdert Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 11:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 77 specular bokeh talk (again!) snip Ed, See http://pug.komkon.org/00marc/tracy.htm same thing but with my 50 f/1.2, a little bit more edgy though. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Your favorite model, your ideal model
I can see why she would be your favorite model, Pat. I think she just became my favorite model also. :) Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Pat White Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Your favorite model, your ideal model My favorite model was, and is, my ex-girlfriend, who's been posing for me for seven years now, in spite of a succession of boyfriends. As an esthetician, she knows plenty about makeup, and she really enjoys posing, occasionally asking me to come over and shoot her. When I used to rent studios, before I set up at home, she would split the cost of the shoot with me, including studio rental! We've shot for hours at a time, indoors and out, and I now have over 2000 pictures of her, one of which was published in the French magazine PHOTO, and is still on their website, under 'resultats du concours newton', or directly, at: www.photo.fr/concours/gagnantsnewton/gagnants2 .html . Not all the photos are as shocking/daring as that one (we do a lot of fashion shots as well), and I hope to see some less controversial ones in print in the future. I've hired pros in the past, with mixed results. For nudes, I somtimes felt shy to ask someone I'd just met for certain poses, and I found that willing to pose nude doesn't always mean ought to pose nude, so three recommended pros didn't get a second session. The best-looking pro, on the other hand, did great fashion and portrait work with me, but refused to do nudes. Also, pro models often have little desire to contribute their own ideas, while with my favorite model, it was always a collaboration, so that she was my muse as much as my model. While some shooters approach each session with a predetermined image in their mind (so do I, occasionally), I often try various things, and 'know it when I see it'. For this to work, I have to have a relationship (working or otherwise) with the model, so each session tends to be better than the last, as we get to know each other. As for dream models, I'd like a session with Nadja Auerman, the German former super-model (see the book Nadja, with pictures of her by nearly all the top fashion shooters). Pat White - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 77 specular bokeh talk (again!)
Hi Kristian, Yes, I saw it with the 43 also, and your photo shows it nicely. And it's a quality I've seen in photos taken with Leica lenses too. It's well discussed that great bokeh has been associated with a degree of spherical aberration, and in fact the 105 F2 DC Nikkor portrait lens actually allows the user to dial in some spherical aberration. Since what we're looking at happens differently off axis, and appears to revolve around the center axis of the lens, I wonder if this is indeed just a picture of spherical aberration? This is probably why the lens exhibits such nice background blur at larger apertures with smooth transitions when there are no real highlights but just more even tones. Is it literally distorting the background and blurring it into the next tone like an artist who would be smearing wet paint? We need a lens guru for this one. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kristian Walsh Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 6:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 77 specular bokeh talk (again!) Hi Ed, I agree, and I've seen this with pictures taken with the 43 too. The only example I have isn't as clear-cut as yours, but if you compare the shape of the spots in the top right to those at the top of the frame in: http://homepage.mac.com/walshk/moira.jpeg ...you might see it. The distortion is very slight, and I only notice the squashing of the highlights with the lens wide open. Once stopped down, it's very difficult to see a difference. Nothing I'm losing sleep over, and far outweighed by the wonderful pictures this lens produces... -- Kristian On Saturday, January 5, 2002, at 10:26 pm, Ed Mathews wrote: Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water. A week or so ago there was some limited g discussion about the Nikon 105, it's bokeh, and the 77 bokeh. I mentioned that the 77 yields nice bokeh, with some football (American football) shaped highlights. Nobody commented about that, and probably nobody understood what I meant. So I thought I'd take a picture of my Christmas tree lights out of focus to show you. This is background bokeh, with the brightest lights about 7 feet away, and the lens focused to about 3 feet. In this shot, the lens is at F2.8. In other shots I took at smaller apertures, the highlights of course get smaller, and the football shapes start to get more round. It appears to me that the shape becomes more oblong closer to the edge, and that they kind of look like they circle around the center axis. Tell me what you think. http://lightandsilver.com/Temp/77.htm Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
tonerbuys.com
Has anybody here ever delt with these people? http://www.tonerbuys.com/ It looks like generic ink to me, but the prices are incredible! My normal black cartrige for my Epson 740 usually sells for close to $30.00, and here it's $5.50. I wonder if it's OK for just printing regular words on regular paper. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Web Page Development
I'm just a stupid novice, so my opinion is admittedly not worth much, but I've been using Frontpage since 1998 and have never had a problem. I used Frontpage 98 up until about 6 months ago and then switched to Frontpage 2002. I skipped over Frontpage 2000, but there's not much difference between 98 and 2002, so I can't imagine it's too different. It's not the most powerful program out there I'm sure, but I've never lost anything, or had any problems with it on my Toshibas. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of aimcompute Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 6:02 PM To: Pentax Discuss Subject: Web Page Development Hi Gang, I know there's been some discussion quite recently about HTML editors and web page development tools, but I've been paying little attention. I've been using FrontPage 2000 and am ABSOLUTELY FED UP with it. Among other things, when using shared borders and saving a file, it is very easy to lose contents that have been present for days. Can someone give me the recommendations for editors. Are there any free ones out there that have a good amount of power? Since I'm a developer, I have no real desire to now code my own HTML as well. Thanks, Tom C. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Questions for Beseler 23CII Users
The negative stage does not move on the 23CII when adjusting for different formats, the light source and condenser lenses above it do the moving. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Rittenhouse Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 4:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Questions for Beseler 23CII Users 'Cept that don't work with a Beseler condenser head. The Beseler moves the negative stage up and down the cone of light until it just covers the negative area. The enlarger works pretty well if you have the neg higher up than optimum but you lose some light intensity, if the neg is to lower it won't have enough coverage. Ciao, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 2:21 PM Subject: Re: Questions for Beseler 23CII Users - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Questions for Beseler 23CII Users OK, I understand the math ... but what is the diffuser? How do I measure it? Where do I find it? On a colour head, the diffuser is the white plastic or opal glass that sits just above the negative carrier. Condensor heads, by definition don't have diffuser discs, but you can measure the diameter of the bottom condensor to get an approximation of the coverage the light source is capable of. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Interesting lens design bokeh explained
Rob, I've seen this shot of yours before, and indeed it is ugly. But these OOF areas have an edge to them that is more defined and dense than the inner surrounding area, more like a donut produced by a mirror lens. No Nikkor or Pentax lens that I have has ever exhibited that. And if I recall, you had said before that this was a 50mm Nikkor? I've got an AIS 50mm F1.4 and an AF 50mm F1.8 and neither is close to being like what you show here. To me, the 77 produces oval or egg shaped specular highlights which are smooth and equal in density from edge to center. I think they exhibit some coma also because their shape changes in different parts of the frame. I've seen similar results from some Leica glass. I guess some like it and some don't. In non specular OOF areas, the transitions are very smooth, and there's nothing to dislike about that by anybody. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rob Studdert Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 7:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Interesting lens design bokeh explained On 1 Jan 2002 at 17:52, Ed Mathews wrote: It is very personal indeed. I found the bokeh on all the shots to be very pretty, and very similar to what I get with the 77 F1.8 Ltd. Highlights take on a very distinct and recognizable circular pattern. Hi Ed, Ok, my favourite lenses produce an indiscernible melding of the images OOF back/fore ground, I don't wish the OOF areas to have shape of their own, this is why I find this image so distracting. If the 77Ltd behaves like this I'm not interested in it one iota. See my classic Nikkor 50f1.4 woeful bokeh shot: http://www.home.aone.net.au/audiobias/bw0503.jpg Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax New Year's Predictions?
Yeah, what he said. And I'll add that in addition to what Dan said about the criticisms: 1. They'll be pockets of people defending whatever they (Pentax) do or don't do. 2. Some will threaten to sell all their gear because of it. 3. Some will ACTUALLY sell all their gear. 4. Some people will buy lots of older gear from the above people. 5. Some will buy the new stuff and praise it. 6. Some will buy the new stuff and criticise it. 7. Few who buy anything new or used, will find that it actually improved their photography. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 2:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax New Year's Predictions? I predict a blizzard of speculation on new Pentaz products for 2002, many quite sophisticated. I also predict that Pentax will introduce 2 or 3 modest innovations, which will be throroughly criticized by the list for failure to include all the wonderful things we had wished for. Dan snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Interesting lens design bokeh explained
Sorry that this is referring to a Nikkor, but this makes a real interesting read for anybody interested in bokeh: http://www.nikon.co.jp/main/eng/society/nikkor/n05_e.htm Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Outdated Oriental Seagull
Shel, That's some of the best paper ever made. Ansel was fond of it. Just 2 days ago I printed an 11x14 on old Oriental VC FB that was at least 5 years old. I had some new oriental in 8x10, and just for kicks I cut a sheet up and used it for test strips to see how close it was before I wasted a sheet of the old stuff. It was within 10%, and the tones and contrast were identical. Go forth and enjoy the cold tone and brilliant white. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 7:28 PM To: Pentax List Subject: Outdated Oriental Seagull I recently acquired some new darkroom equipment, and, along with the hardware I got a few packages of Oriental Seagull graded paper, fiber base. Some packages were opened, some not. All were kept in a cool dark room. These packages have to be at least five or six years old, and certainly go back to the time before Oriental stopped exporting to the US, and long before Cachet was marketing a product with the Oriental name. So, what problems might I expect from a paper this old? Loss of speed? Reduced or increased contrast? Fogging? While I know that I can just expose a few sheets and see what the results are, it would be nice to have some idea of what to expect. Thanks! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Questions for Beseler 23CII Users
Hi Shel, I use a 23CII, but I've replaced the original condenser head with an Aristo cold light source. I used it for several years with the condenser lenses though. The bellows adjustment is there in order to adjust the light source for even distribution and focusing of the point light source over the negative, depending on the size of the film you have to cover and the standard enlarging lens. If using an 80mm lens for 35mm work, I would think that leaving it in the position for 35mm film would cause the light rays to converge too much, and not in the proper place under the lens. But really, the best way to check this is to raise the enlarger up to the highest point you can, put a large white sheet of paper in the easel, and then without a negative in the carrier, just look at the distribution of light. Adjust the bellows to be in the position where the best coverage occurs. As others have said, the filter drawer is for VC filters, color filters, or as you mention - heat absorbing glass. I bought a piece of that special heat absorbing glass from Beseler. It cost an arm and a leg. Since I'm using cold light now, I don't have it installed, so let me know if you want it cheap. Also, when using the cold light head with the diffused light source, it's interesting that the bellows adjustment no longer really does anything, because the light is no focused with the condenser lenses any longer. So I moved it to the lowest position and it allows me to raise the enlarger higher for bigger enlargements under my low ceiling. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 2:51 AM To: Pentax List Subject: Questions for Beseler 23CII Users I just picked up a fine Beseler 23CII condenser enlarger to complement the dichro head model that I have. There's an adjustment on it that allows the condenser to be moved up and down relative to the negative, and it's marked for different formats - 8/16/35mms and 110; 2¼x2¼, etc. Essentially it's self explanatory, but I do have a question: if a longer lens, such as an 80mm is used instead of a normal 50mm lens for 35mm work, should the condenser be moved to the 2¼x2¼ position? There's a drawer above the condenser that looks like it's for VC filters, or for heat absorbing glass. Is that correct, or is there another purpose for that drawer? Man, it's a neat machine! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Copying old photos with limited equipment.
I have to strongly agree with JC here. Scanning is the way to go with old prints. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Copying old photos with limited equipment. WHY NOT SCAN THEM AND PRINT DIGITAL? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Malcolm Smith Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 11:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Copying old photos with limited equipment. Hi everyone, My mother was lent a box of photos at Xmas of family taken many years ago (all B W). She only has it for a few more days, and I'd love to copy them. Of course, now would be a great time to own a camera stand, but I don't, so any advice on taking copies with either the LX or MX with a 50mm F1.2. I don't own that much Pentax equipment blush. Malcolm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Double messages
Is anybody else getting sporadic double messages, sometimes at the same time, sometimes days apart? Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 28-80 range zooms. Which One?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Carlos Royo Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 1:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 28-80 range zooms. Which One? snip (about the FA28-70) really low corner resolution at 28 mm. 4.0. Distortion is not very important, and it is the best 28-70 zoom in its price range. If you want to spend a little more, you can look for a snip Carlos, What do you mean by, distortion is not very important? This zoom has quite a bit of distortion at the 28mm end, and that may be very important to some people. I agree it's one of the best standard zooms around, but it is far from distortion free at anywhere except around 40mm. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 28-80 range zooms. Which One?
Hi Carlos, I wasn't trying to give you a hard time or disagree with you - basically I also feel it's a great lens. It was your wording I wanted to clarify. For the record, I've had a few pictures ruined by linear distortion that were not really architectural in nature, and I think the 28-70 has a fair amount of barrel distortion compared to others in it's class. Damn aspherics! But it is indeed very sharp. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Carlos Royo Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 28-80 range zooms. Which One? Ed Mathews wrote: Carlos, What do you mean by, distortion is not very important? This zoom has quite a bit of distortion at the 28mm end, and that may be very important to some people. I agree it's one of the best standard zooms around, but it is far from distortion free at anywhere except around 40mm. Hi Ed: I didn't say that it is a distortion free lens. It has some distortion at both ends, 28 mm. and 70 mm., but it is not very visible except if you want the better quality in, say, architecture photography, but in such case you would use a prime, not a zoom lens. The FA 28-70 has excellent flare resistance, very good contrast and more than acceptable sharpness for a wide angle to short tele zoom, in my view, and if Philip is looking for a good zoom lens for a budget, I think it is one of the best choices. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Let's talk darkrooms, again
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Collin Brendemuehl Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 2:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Let's talk darkrooms, again snip stapling some inexpensive vinyl material to the frame. Then painting the walls black. snip FWIW, If you seal it from light pretty well, and control any light leaks from the enlarger and safelight, you really don't have to paint it black. Paint will only reflect whatever wavelengths are hitting it, not add any new ones to it. So in theory, if your safelight is indeed safe, then your walls could be white and it would not matter. But most enlargers do leak some light during exposure, which bounces around, so I would suggest either a medium gray color overall, or black around the enlarger area and lighter around the processing area. You're going to want to reflect as much of the safelight as possible for viewing things in the dark, but control the leaks from the enlarger during the exposure to eliminate any fogging of the paper. And stick with as pure a black, white, and gray as possible - without any other colors in it. That way, when you turn the room lights on - you won't be evaluating the print in lighting that has a weird cast to it. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Aperture Ring Use on MZ-S is a Pain
Hey, I feel like Shel probably does here, just sitting back and enjoying this PZ1P vs. MZ-S feud, and wondering why anyone would take the time and effort to try and convince someone else that one is better than the other. But, in an effort to be social, I'll quip in here about this aperture thing. I have tried to use the aperture control from the dials instead of the aperture ring on the lens, and I found it totally unnatural. I cannot imagine that anything could be easier or more intuitive than simply turning the aperture ring. Furthermore, when stopping down the lens using the DOF preview, you can turn the aperture ring on the lens and select the aperture based on the apparent DOF changes you see while spinning through the apertures, forward and backward, and looking at the changes. You can't do that with the dials. OK, I'm ducking, so bring on the rock-throwing Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-S AF sensitivity to HV?
A while back, someone had written how the MZ-S AF sensors were each sensitive to both horizontal and vertical lines, because of (I think) some software design. Can someone point me to where that information is explained? And why doesn't Pentax market it? Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Picture mounting and framing...
I've been through the matted photos in a box scenario. The problems are that they are not the easiest thing to view and hold, and they wear and the mattes get dirty with bent corners. So I finally decided on a leather zip-up case from Light Impressions. I was worried about the acetate over the sheets causing glare, but that has not been a problem. The sheets are of very high quality - not your tyical photo album crap. I make fiber prints and then cut off the entire border with my paper cutter. Then I use this little gadget that rolls out archival quality dots of glue, go around the back perimeter of the photo with it and then make a big X in the middle, and then paste the print down and cover it up with the acetate. The sheets come in three colors: Black; White; and Gray. I've ordered and tried all three, and like the white the best by far (BW prints only). The white is VERY white, so even fiber prints with paper base on the edge still show a difference and line border up against the sheet. I've also successfully taken a couple of the prints off and re-used the sheets for other prints, but I would not suggest you do it too many times with the same sheet. There. Now someone's finally answered your damn question. Happy now?? :) Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com snip This reminds me that no one answered my portfolio question, so here it is again: For those of you planning to put together a portfolio (as Mike was suggesting a couple of weeks ago), how do you plan to display it? Matted prints in a box? An album? One of those leather-like sprial binder thingies? snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 85mm vs 77mm, and 43mm
OK, call me crazy, but I'm in the s-l-o-w process of selling all of my Pentax equipment, EXCEPT THE 77mm F1.8. I like that lens so much, that I'm still considering buying an MZ-S someday (even though I'm really not that impressed with it) just to have a nice AF body to use it with. Yes, I realize this idea is stupid, and that I don't need it, and that it won't even match, and that it looks wasteful and decadent to most people. But there is something about it... Maybe I can buy Cesar's MZ-S for cheap in a few months after he beats it to a pulp Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 85mm vs 77mm, and 43mm snip Without being specific, lenses of the same focal length can have differences in bokeh - the out of focus area - contrast, sharpness, the ability to resolve fine detail, light fall off, the relationship of the main subject to depth of field, and color rendition. snip Apart from optical characteristics, one has the physical differences to consider. The size of a lens may be more important to one person than another. snip So, only you can determine what qualities are important to you. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Picture mounting and framing...
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of tom Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 6:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Picture mounting and framing... snip Is this the pleather one? I used one of those for a while... No, it's real leather. Hmm...I think I was using the same book and pages, but with rc prints since I can't get fiber to lay very flat. I used a 3M glue stick (as LI recommends). The glue sort of sopped though to the other side if I wasn't very careful, and didn't look very nice. This archival roll-on is really cool. Works great. Plus I'd get fingerprints all over the acetate. Not a problem for me. I must keep my fingers cleaner than you do for some reason. :) There. Now someone's finally answered your damn question. Happy now?? :) Happy? Not really, I have a bit of a headache and Jeepgirl hasn't spoken to me in at least a month. Plus this stupid cell phone I bought today seems to have a battery life of maybe 6 minutes. You need to cognitively re-appraise this situation: Jeepgirl is married now, and you'd just get yourself into trouble if she was talking to you. And the longer you talk on a cell phone, the more it costs. And have you ever heard that phrase, Please hit me over the head with a hammer, because it feels so goo when you stop.? Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Another PDML outing!
Cesar's a great guy. Great company. A good time was had by all and I'd love to do it again. Maybe someplace safer and prettier next time. :) Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matamoros, Cesar A. Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:45 PM To: Pentax Subject: Another PDML outing! Tuesday afternoon I got together with fellow PDMLer Ed Mathews in Baltimore, Maryland. What a wonderful time. The weather was wonderful, except for the slight haze. We ended up going to an older section of Baltimore and taking some shots around the docks. This is an area he has always wanted to check out. I am glad I was able to enjoy it too. I was not even aware that this section existed. I won't even bring up what we were shooting :-) It was interesting to see how he was viewing these scenes as opposed to me. From there we ended up having a wonderful dinner with more talking of things photographic and even the PDML. I do have to admit we also went off topic:-) And no, the wine did not help us in that vein. We ended the evening in the Fell's Point section, the older port section of Baltimore. This used to be a place I was very familiar with. It was great walking about and checking it out. A great send off to my vacation in NYC. Thanks Ed, César Matamoros II Panama City, Florida in New York City for a bit - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 77/18 Ltd.vs. FA* 85/1.4(Was Re: Pentax SMC-FA* 85mm/1.4 IF on E-bay)
I own the 77, and I would suggest you would not be disappointed with it in any respect. I only have one 85mm lens to compare it to - an 85mm F1.8 AF Nikkor, and it takes in approximately the same field of view. The Nikkor is a rear focusing design, so I don't know if that affects the focal length at short distances like internal focusing does - I don't think it should. So my guess is that the 77 is indeed a little longer than advertised - maybe in the low 80s. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Walsh Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 77/18 Ltd.vs. FA* 85/1.4(Was Re: Pentax SMC-FA* 85mm/1.4 IF on E-bay) At portrait distances (say 4 to 6 feet) or at mid-range say 10 feet), just how different is the angle of view of the subject lenses? I've seen test reports that suggest that the 77 is actually a bit longer than that, and the 85 is not quite that (at least close in, due to the IF), so they seem like they might be virtually identical in focal length at such focus distances. Since I use my 85/1.4 essentially only at 10 feet and closer, but I sometimes _carry_ the lens long distances, the lighter-weight Limited lens seems quite attractive. Because the 85/1.4 is--really--the bulk of my family kit, I carry it sometimes when I'm hiking with medium format gear (my I will Create Art kit), even though, on those occasions, I also often carry one member of the family. My four year-old daughter is unlikely to grow lighter; I wonder if my family kit should. I enjoyed the linked photos, but I still can't decide to sell an excellent lens and buy another excellent (lighter, but shorter?) lens, especially if the focal length is significantly shorter than the length (and what length is that?) that works for me. I'm sorta-kinda leaning towards self-enablement. Should somebody stop me? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: New Pentax digital SLR
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Pål Audun Jensen Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New Pentax digital SLR snip They only ones who can justify this cost are people who are producing lot of images. For 35mm photography these are the photo journalist. They have heavily invested in Nikon and Canon lenses and won't switch to Pentax just because it offers (for the time being) a few Mpix more. Theres no way Pentax can make a viable digital slr until it reaches prices the amateur can afford. These prices will be reached in a relative short while but not with that Philips chip. snip This seems to me, purely logical, rational, and smart business. My thoughts exactly. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S AF pattern - strange verticals?
This theory could only be considered if everyone held the camera the same way (shutter release on top, or bottom). That's about 50/50 from what I've seen. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Frantisek Vlcek Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 5:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MZ-S AF pattern - strange verticals? Hi, Just out of curiosity, why do you think (if you find it lacking) MZ-S lacks a bottom (far-right when vertical) AF point? For me, it would make AFing portraits pretty difficult, as we (the part of PDML using Latin alphabet or writing in leftright direction) tend to read photos from left to right, so an optimized portrait placing is looking to the left, on right side of frame (if I can exaggerate it somehow). I am just curious if this missing AF point is beacuse of Japanese reverse rightleft reading direction. Our reading direction has a definite impact on reading photographs, and their has probably too. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: A Fond Memory ...
:) Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 7:07 PM To: Pentax List Subject: A Fond Memory ... This took place back in 1968. At the time I had a small photo studio in San Francisco, in the Mission District, and had very little money. Early one day I photographed a couple of fish mongers in their shop window, setting out their fish for display. They were standing in the window, holding a huge fish that was so big that it took both of them to hold it. Seeing me with my camera, they posed for a photograph, standing in ice above their ankles, wearing high, black rubber boots and white smocks. The guys were quite a sight. Upon returning to the studio I made then an 11x14, and went back to the shop later in the day. They paid me for the photo with crabs and shrimp and scallops. That night my girlfriend and I opened a bottle of inexpensive white wine, made a salad, and feasted on the generosity of the fish mongers. The table was a wooden box, set in the middle of the studio, and we sat on pillows on the floor, savoring every bite of the food and every sip of the wine. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/xmas- story.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed!
Wow, that must be one fast baby and some real fast adults too! Looks more like 1/6 second to me than 1/60. Actually, I kind of like the effect, and I'm note sure I'd like the photo any better if it were static. But, I'll admit I'm weird that way. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Mustarde Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 9:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed! On Sat, 01 Dec 2001 09:55:25 -0600, you wrote: Of course, 1/60th sucks as a flash sync speed - 1/100th is bad enough. Flash sync at 1/60 is inadequate for people in motion. Here's an example of why I try to avoid slow sync speeds: http://www.photolin.com/C-Image014.jpg snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Exposure Difference: SMC-A 50/2.0, SMC-M 135/3.5, SMC-M 200/4
This is not unusual, it is in fact, common that different lenses and camera combinations result in different exposures. Sometimes it's the camera's shutter at certain speeds, and sometimes it's the lens' particular certain aperture not being exact. The cumulative effect of the shutter and aperture errors can be significant, as you found out. Advanced BW books often suggest establishing film speeds and development times by testing every lens individually at each aperture on the same single camera, and finding where the correct exposure is by bracketing and establishing where base + fog is on the film verses maximum density. Even then, you've only established it for a single lens and camera combination, and it's also quite possible that your camera/lens would perform differently in different auto exposure modes, as well as in manual exposure. I find this to be a pretty impractical approach to 35mm shooting, but certainly valid for larger formats. In a practical sense, you've taken the first step to realizing that you have some variables that cumulatively add up pretty significantly. If I were you, I'd waste a few rolls on a gray card, maybe in the exposure mode you use most often and see which lenses and apertures perform how, and just file that information away in your brain for the future in case you feel the need to want to compensate for it. I would think the biggest factor in deciding afterwards whether it's an issue or not might be the type of film you use most often. With color negative film, it's probably not an issue at all. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brent Hutto Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 8:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Exposure Difference: SMC-A 50/2.0, SMC-M 135/3.5, SMC-M 200/4 snip The bad news is that the exposures were not the same. The shot at snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: strictions on photographing
Much of this depends on how you use the image, how you depict it, and who finds out. It's not really where you are standing, so much as what's in your viewfinder. I submit some work for stock, and in addition to needing model releases for every recognizable person, you also need property releases for recognizable private property. I don't worry about it too much on my website, because I'm not making money on it there, and the photo is not likely to be seen by enough people to increase the odds that someone will ever complain about it. But for commercial work - most agencies are very strict about what's in the photograph that someone could potentially sue them for. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com snip I would think that it would depend where in the world you were. Here in the US there was no restrictions as long as you were on public property. After 9/11, who knows. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed!
Yeah, what Chris said. To sum up, it depends on the ambient light level. The camera sets a faster sync speed in brighter light and a slower on in dim light in order to (attempt to) balance the flash and ambient light better. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Brogden Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 1:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HELP: my MZ-5 thinks 1/60th is a great flash sync speed! On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Tom Rittenhouse wrote: I think that your camera is actually using 1/100 sec. but the dislay does not have that speed so it shows the next lower speed. No, the display shows that speed. I noticed this with the MZ-7 a few days ago... it seems to set a sync speed of 1/15 to 1/45 when used on the fully automatic mode indoors, which snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re[2]: Illegal Street Photography?
But is this the same or similar law that HCB himself sited in order to keep the recent photos of himself in Faceless by David Douglas Duncan? He was successful in keeping that from being available in France, right? Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bob Walkden Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 8:50 PM To: frank theriault Subject: Re[2]: Illegal Street Photography? Hi, I go to talks by big name photographers quite frequently, and have been to several by Magnum photographers and they all moan like hell about it. As the article says, it makes HCB a criminal. snip - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Interesting question about digital: Infrared
Yes, the current one's CAN, and they actually can do an extremely good job at IR. Find an explanation here: http://www.cocam.co.uk/CoCamWS/Infrared/INFRARED.HTM#eIR And find an excellent example here: http://www.animalu.com/pics/photos.htm Thanks, Ed -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 9:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Interesting question about digital: Infrared Someone on the rec.photo.digital newsgroup just posted asking if a digital camera can do infrared photography. I'm pretty sure current ones can't and wonder if it would ever be possible (even if it's possible technically, it probably would require a special CCD, for which there wouldn't be enough demand to justify producing). So perhaps I should start shooting infrared to show those smartass digicam owners what old fashioned film can do? -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: ZX-5 vs MZ-S use this past weekend.
Yes, a major complaint of mine. Dim LEDs, bad placement, and glare on the eyepiece. Thanks, Ed -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matamoros, Cesar A. Snip. At first when I switched to it (ZX5) I was complaining about not being able to read the viewfinder information. Snip. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: ZX-5 vs MZ-S use this past weekend.
I've tried that, and it helps, but still it's a problem. In bright sun, I actually end up shielding my right eye and glasses with most of my hand, leaving just my pinky to press the shutter release. Sometimes I feel like the only good solution for me would be a black cloth, like a view camera. A bit inconvenient for 35mm. Thanks, Ed -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of dick graham Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 5:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ZX-5 vs MZ-S use this past weekend. I have found that moving my right thumb up on the right side of the eye cup of the viewfinder I have solved the problem of back lit glare in the viewfinder. DG At 04:29 PM 8/21/01 -0400, you wrote: Yes, a major complaint of mine. Dim LEDs, bad placement, and glare on the eyepiece. Thanks, Ed -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matamoros, Cesar A. Snip. At first when I switched to it (ZX5) I was complaining about not being able to read the viewfinder information. Snip. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: August PUG - Bill Casselberry
I don't think there's any IR sensor in the ZX5N. I've used it extensively for infrared and there has never been a problem, and I recall Pentax saying at some point that there was no IR sensor in that camera. Thanks, Ed Tom said: Snip.. However, other MZ bodies have a sensor as well, and don't. I've tested this with the ZX-5n. Snip.. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More RE: Amateur Photographer MZ-S review
Jaroslaw wrote: EOS-3 and Nikon F100 are labelled as high-end cameras - whatever it means. Quite distinct from their pro: models you say? Not very much so: EOS-3 build quality is similar to the old EOS-1N (shutter durability, sealing and gasketing against the elements, the chassis etc.) and definitely above EOS amateur models. Just to set the record straight, the F100 brochure clearly says Professional in big letter on the cover, and references it many times inside. As far as ISO settings with it, if you manually change the ISO, and then insert the same type of file again and again, it remembers the manually set ISO rating and continues with that rating. If you change to a different type of film, it goes back to setting it via the DX coding. Thanks, Ed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
E-film details
Maybe this has been posted, but I just found it, so I'll share. It explains the e-film principals pretty well. I still don't know if it's really actually available. http://www.e-insite.net/ednmag/index.asp?layout=articlearticleId=CA9076 1 Thanks, Ed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: ZX-5N?
And the Nikon F3, and the Nikon F100, and the Pentax Super Program, and even the K-1000. From: petit miam Subject: RE: ZX-5N? Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 02:30:32 -0700 And the Spotmatic :) On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 11:03:10 +1000, John Coyle wrote: I have the ZX5, which I'm reasonably certain is not much different to the 5n in viewfinder construction. I find it easy enough to shade the eyepiece with one hand to check the exposure information in bright sunlight. Are you aware of _any_ SLR camera that will not have this problem in the same conditions (particularly if you wear glasses)? Sure, the Pentax LX :-) Regards, JvW Thanks,Ed
Re: OT (sort of) Ilfospeed Deluxe paper
Thanks to those who replied to this. I'm not going into all the details about why I think I would prefer a graded paper, but suffice to say I've been printing for a while. I've arrived at and have been using graded Fiber with cold light for some time now, and I want to extend that preference to my quicker RC prints. The response about Ilfospeed was all positive, so I ordered a pack of grade 2 and a pack of grade 3. Thanks for the input, gang. Most the time, I do better when I have less choices. Less choices leads to less confusion and better familiarity for my simple mind. Thanks, Ed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT (sort of) Ilfospeed Deluxe paper
Hi, I'm in search of a graded RC paper to use with my cold light head. About the only I see out there in stock is Ilfospeed Deluxe. Has anybody on the list used this stuff? I've use Ilford Multicontrast RC quite a lot. Is it similar? Thanks, Ed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
June Pop Photo: 24-90 overpriced?
Peter wrote: Keppler's SLR column...snip..but the Pentax at $600 stands out like a sore thumb. It is the most expensive of the bunch, with the shortest zoom range. ..snip Yeah, when I tried out the MZ-S with that lens, the local rep told me that he thought the lens cost way too much for what it was, and he was afraid they had priced it too high. Thanks, Ed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax stuff for sale
Hello, In an effort to clean out some of my never or seldom used camera items, I have the following things to offer the list before I head elsewhere with them: * Super Program * Pentax 135 F3.5 M * Tamron FA 28-105 F4-5.6 AF * Pentax FA 28-70 F4 AF * Pentax F 80-200 F4.7-5.6 AF Condition of all is excellent and prices are very attractive. See more details at: http://www.komkon.org/~itsed/Temp/lens.htm E-mail me privately if interested in anything. Thanks, Ed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax stuff for sale
I didn't check new prices, only used prices at KEH. If it's too high then someone can either make me an offer or I'll take it to E-Bay. I would take less if necessary. Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: Gary L. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ed Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 4:20 PM Subject: Re: Pentax stuff for sale On Sun, 6 May 2001 08:32:03 -0400, Ed Mathews wrote: * Pentax FA 28-70 F4 AF Ed, Isn't $120 a bit steep? BH sells them for $149. :-) Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
New Kodak/Nikon 6MP camera
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0103/01032206kodakdcs760.asp Thanks, Ed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ZX-5N AF again (was Re: ZX-5n - Good price at BH photo: A Question to All....)
Skip said: I don't understand what you're saying here Ed, about the ZX-5n. Isn't locking on a subject and staying focused with it exactly what is supposed to happen in the Spot Focus mode? My comments: What I meant was that the camera has no continuous focus mode, so it tends to lock on to subjects and remain focused at that point, rather than follow them. It's supposed to follow moving subjects, using "predictive AF", but you can't depend on that happening all the time. It depends on the subject, and how fast it's moving. You have no control over "predictive AF", it's up to the camera to decide whether to kick it in or not. Skip said: And what happens then when you switch over to the Six Segment AF mode? And what do you mean by "no continuous focus mode"? Doesn't this camera have something called Predictive AF, which is supposed to be one step ahead of a moving object[s] in order to keep in focus?? My comments: I explained precdictive AF above. You have no control over it, and it works sometimes and sometimes not. I find it works less often than not. And there is no such thing as "six-segment AF mode". I don't know where you ever head of that, but I can assure you - the ZX5N has nothing like it. Skip said: Can you please explain more? Are you using all of the AF modes, or maybe just sticking with one? Or does this camera simply not really do what's claimed for it? My comments: The ZX5N has no user controlable AF modes. It simply tries to achieve focus and lock at that point, or it makes up it's own mind that a subject is moving and tries to follow it by itself. The only aspect controlable by the user is whether you choose to use just the center AF bracket, or all three at once in the viewfinder, in which case the camera again makes up it's own mind about which one to use to achieve focus Skip said: Plus, if you look at the Pentax AF codes, the PZ1[p] uses something called Safox 1, while the ZX-5n uses Safox IV. Are you saying Pentax's AF systems have gotten worse as they've updated them??? My comments: Over the years, of the many people that have owned both cameras, many people have said the the PZ1P AF seems better to them. Others say the ZX5N AF is better. I don't know which is better. But, what you can be assured of is this: 1. The difference is probably not that great, or there would be no arguing about which is better. 2. The PZ1P has a "stronger" AF motor. 3. The PZ1P has a continuous AF mode that the ZX5N does not have, allowing it to keep changing it's focus with a moving subject. So that's why I said what I did. Ultimately, for moving subjects, the best Pentax camera is the MS-S in continuous focus mode. But if you can't afford that, then the PZ1P might be a better choice than the ZX5N because although it's AF system is outdated, at least it has a continuous AF mode that no other current Pentax has. Thanks, Ed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Test Drive results (long)h
I did not check the eyepiece to see if it was glass or plastic, but it's dished like the ZX5N, and so similar, that I would bet it's the same. Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: "Alan Chan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 7:29 PM Subject: Re: MZ-S Test Drive results (long)h Hi Ed, I think this is the least interested question, but I have decided to ask anyway. Was the eyepiece made of glass, or still plastic (if it was uncoated, it's usually plastic)? It's the most hatred part on my Z-1p, and I hope the one on MZ-S is not plastic anymore. 8-( regards, Alan Chan _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax FA 35 mm f2.0 AL vs Stylus Epic
Hi Peter, I really enjoyed your page on AF testing. Confirms the same thing I've found with the ZX5N, although I've also found a decent amount of error at infinity with some lenses too. Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: "Peter Spiro" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 10:50 PM Subject: Re: Pentax FA 35 mm f2.0 AL vs Stylus Epic The Stylus Epic has a great lens for the price, and generally gives very nice results. I have actually done comparison shots between it and my Pentax 40mm f/2.8, both at about f/5.6, and the Pentax was noticeably sharper in the details (e.g., small letters on a sign). Probably the most significant problem with the Stylus is the perverse program that's built into it, which is very much biased toward fast action (or photographers with really shaky hands). Until the light is enough to give you a shutter speed over 1/200th, it shoots with the lens wide open at f/2.8. This gives you very limited depth of field, and no lens is at its best wide open. So you need to use ASA 400 or 800 film with it unless you are always going to be in bright sunshine. I do like its tiny size, and I use it for travelling when an SLR is just too bulky (or I'm using the SLR for slides and the Stylus for prints). A few shots I've taken with it can be found at http://ca.geocities.com/spirope/photopage.htm _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Grace
Hi Shel, I received your print of grace today. It's beautiful and so is she. It says so much. I thank you, and I will proudly display it. Let me know if I can reciprocate sometime. Thanks, Ed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Fw: Grace
Sorry Shel, and list folks. This was obviously meant to be private. Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: "Ed Mathews" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 2:54 PM Subject: Grace Hi Shel, I received your print of grace today. It's beautiful and so is she. It says so much. I thank you, and I will proudly display it. Let me know if I can reciprocate sometime. Thanks, Ed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Another question about ...(was Re: FA 24-90)
No, the front element does not rotate on the 24-90. :) Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 1:44 AM Subject: Another question about ...(was Re: FA 24-90) I Can't remember if this has been mentioned before, but does the front element rotate when focussing? i.e. for polarizer use This is the one nasty thing that I can't stand about the 28-70 F4... other than that I love the lens... Cheers, Brian On 27 Feb 2001, at 18:32, Ed Mathews wrote: I cannot be certain, but I believe it does. It looks and feels a lot like the 28-70 F4. It's not very heavy, and it's very compact but well built. The hood is very nice with a built-in removable door for being able to use/rotate polorizers. The hood also reverses for storage (as you would expect). The rep said he shot a roll of film with it and was amazed by the sharpness and lack of distortionat both ends, but of course, you would expect him to say that. He also said he and the other U.S. reps think it's overpriced against the competition, but there's nothing they can do about that. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The Tri-X Chronicles: Heifitz, Highlights, French Tea
Shel, I've found the same thing. IDII is a little higher energy than D76. But if you compensate for the higher energy and reduce the development time, the results are similar. Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Pentax List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 2:15 AM Subject: The Tri-X Chronicles: Heifitz, Highlights, French Tea This evening I ran a roll of TX through Ilford's ID-11, and another roll through Kodak's venerable D-76, gently rolling the tanks while enjoying Heifitz playing the music of Saint-Sans and sipping a warming cup of Casablanca blend tea from Mariage Frres. Tonight's exploration into the qualities of Tri-X and ID-11 centered around Anchell's comments that, since ID-11 and D-76 are, for all intents and purposes, identical formulations, development times for each developer should be the same. Of course, the formulation and packaging of the two developers are not precisely identical, and, therefore, using the time-temp chart from one or the other developer may not give identical results. This is what I wanted to determine. The last couple of rolls of TX that I souped in ID-11 seemed to indicate that Anchell was wrong in his assertion. The contrast range of the negatives seemed a little greater than what I'd been getting when using D-76. Today I shot a few frames of the same subject on two rolls of film, using the same camera and lens to minimize any exposure differences caused by equipment, in order to more directly compare the results of TX in each developer. Each roll was processed separately in 600cc of developer mixed 1:1, using, of course, the same time, temperature, and agitation routine for each roll. As suspected, the results showed that ID-11 produced a negative with somewhat greater highlight density than the negs produced using D-76. The difference was observed by viewing the negatives side-by-side through a 5.5X Pentax loupe on a light box with a 5000-degree K light. The subjects were a BW teddy bear, the exposure of which was determined by measuring a Kodak grey card, and the grey card, which was also included in the scene. So, for accurate and precise results, run your own tests and don't consider ID-11 and D-76 to be interchangeable. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S focus point selection
Comments interspersed: Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: "Erwin Vereecken" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 5:04 AM Subject: MZ-S focus point selection Hi, Reading the reports saying you have to use your left hand for the switch to enable focus point selection, I thought the following: Can't you operate this switch with the tip of the middle finger of the right hand? That is, WITHOUTH removing your right hand from the grip. You would have to have a really, really long, and dexterous middle finger. :) I thought that was the most logical way of doing it, and is how I usually do it with my MZ5n. You don't even have to take your finger from the shutter button, which was probably the idea to start with, and the reason why it is so hard to reach with the index finger. The MZ5N has the wide or spot position switch there, and I don't find that at all easy to move repeatedly with my middle finger. Since it's against the lens mount and not the camera body, are you using the back of your finger where your fingernail is for it? If not, are you somehow able to twist your middle finger into position while not affecting your shutter finger? And for the focus point selection you only have to hold it up against a spring load, instead of clicking it into a position, so that should be even easier. Well, so far, nobody who has handled the camera has found it easy to do with the right hand, while keeping a finger on the shutter, and simultaneously using the thumb or another finger to turn the right side command dial to select the focus point. Erwin. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S focus point selection
Hi Erwin, I see how it works for you. Unfortunately for me, I almost exclusively use aperture priority mode, so I am always forced to support a good chunk of the camera's weight with my right hand. Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: "Erwin Vereecken" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 9:44 AM Subject: Re: MZ-S focus point selection Hi Ed, It was just an idea from my side based on my experience with the MZ5n. So the following story is most based on that ofcourse, and explains why I 'think' it would work for me. First I would like to say it took me a long time (a year) before I knew how to use my MZ5n properly, ergonomically speaking. I was very unhappy with it's ergonomics, I have big hands, found no room to place my fingers, my index finger was halfway over the shutter button, the neck strap was always in the way, and I got cramps if I held it for a long time. And also relating to the MZ-S subject, the AF selector switch was a nightmare to use. I didn't like the idea of adding a battery grip either, the MZ5n is already roughly the size of a K1000, I don't need AA because I don't shoot that many rolls as an amateur, and I often use a tripod, so I don't like the idea of putting a battery pack inbetween. So I much preferred to use my SFX, with it's big and comfortable grip. However, not to long ago I noticed that when I was handholding the MZ5n with my F*300 f4.5, the ergonomics all of a sudden started to fit. So I studied why, and to put it in short, the MZ5n is a left hand camera, not a right hand camera like the SFX. With this I mean you have to take it to your eye with your left hand, and add your right hand when the camera is between chest and eye height. When the F*300 was on it, I did this naturally, because of the size and weight of the lens. But with smaller lenses, I tried to hold and handle it as my SFX, and that caused all the problems. Just try this: Bring the camera to upper chest height, quite close to the chest, with the left hand only (holding it more or less like you were adjusting the aperture ring) Now add the right hand. Because the position the camera is in, your right hand should now come from a front/ below direction, with the palm of the hand turned in a 90 corner with your chest. Now take the camera to your eye, but keep roughly 90% of the weight supported by the left hand, and keep a relatively loose grip with the right hand. Now I don't know what this will do for you, but for me it's just perfect. The index finger drops right over the shutter, the thumb fits nicely, and to come back to the subject, the back of the fingernail of my middle finger rests against the AF switch. Now in this position you can't really hold the full weight of camera and lens properly with the right hand, but it makes more sense anyway to do this with the left arm, which, cradled to the chest, gives more stability. And that's why I say the MZ5n is a left hand camera. Asfar as reach is concerned to operate the AF switch, my middle finger is almost complety turned inwards when the nail rests again the switch, when I stretch it out, withouth changing the position of my hand, it reaches the middle of the lens, just in front of the top of the aperure ring. So this should work also for smaller hands. And the MZ-S grip is only deeper, and does not make the camera wider, so this reach should be the same. Asfar a dexterity is concerned, flipping the switch up and down with the fingernail is quite easy for me, and especially flipping it up with the back of the nail is really easy. And in case of selecting focussing points with the MZ-S, all that's needed could be a slight pressure with the back of the fingernail. And you said: "Well, so far, nobody who has handled the camera has found it easy to do with the right hand, while keeping a finger on the shutter, and simultaneously using the thumb or another finger to turn the right side command dial to select the focus point" Because I use the right hand only "loosely" with my present MZ5n technique, I don't see much problems in using thumb and middle finger at the same time. I do tighten the right hand grip slightly when focussing manually (but we are talking about AF), and adjusting the aperture ring (but my brain couldn't handle that much actions simultaniously), but only then. So based on this experience, I suspect it could work for me, but that doesn't mean it would work for everybody, and I would have to try it first ofcourse. So sofar it's just an idea, but I thought it was worth mentioning, because it would make the AF system more suitable for fast action, espescially with big lens/monopod/tripod combo's, where you don't want your left hand reaching underneath the camera. Erwin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't
Re: Test-Driving the MZ-S
Smartass. You're gonna get me in trouble. :) Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: "tom" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 9:01 AM Subject: Re: Test-Driving the MZ-S Ed, could you unscrew the bottom plate, and tell us what color the wiring is? Also, pop the RTF 3 or 4 hundred times. I'm curious to see how well it holds up. Thanks. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-S Test Drive results (long)h
First, thanks to the Pentax rep who let me handle the camera. I spent about 45 minutes with it and the new 24-90 lens. I'm going to ramble here, and I know I did not get to everything everyone wants to know, but I found out about what was important to me, and tried to find out other things for some people. Bear in mind that the rep has not had the camera very long, has only run 1 roll of film through it, and received no instruction manual with it. U.S. arrival is expected in May, and the MAP will be about $999.00. You might want to open 4 browsers to all these images as you read this: http://digilander.iol.it/aohc/pma2001/mzs01.jpg http://digilander.iol.it/aohc/pma2001/mzs02.jpg http://digilander.iol.it/aohc/pma2001/mzs03.jpg http://digilander.iol.it/aohc/pma2001/mzs04.jpg Ergonomically, the camera handles much like a ZX/MZ anything, and it weighs not much more. The grip is more substantial and it feels more solid. And the sound of the shutter is much more metallic. The command dial on the right side woks well and is equally and easily accessible to either the right index finger from the front, or the right thumb from behind. The DOF preview is a spring activated additional notch beyond the on switch, and is very easy use and to get used to. The focus bracket selection switch is located on the right side near the lens release mounting tab where you would normally find the DOF preview. You need to push it while turning the right control dial to select focus points. I found it very awkward or near impossible to get to with the right hand, and the rep told me it's better to get with the left hand by reaching around under the lens barrel as you cradle the lens. That way indeed works well, but I wonder how comfortable that would be with a heavy lens because it requires you cradle the lens near the camera body. The AF lock button on the back can be programmed to either just lock AF or lock AF and AE. I found this to be placed a little too close to the center of the camera, causing my thumb to almost push my eye away from the viewfinder, but not quite. I also found that you needed to push that button in pretty far before it activates, which might be a problem for people with larger, less "pointy" thumbs. The button with the green dot on the right front of the camera is like an "idiot button". It returns all the custom functions to factory presets, and puts you back in auto modes automatically, in case you get lost. The command dial on the left side has an inner and outer dial which both rotate. The outer dial rotates easily, but the inner one is not easy to grasp with just three little ridges for grip. It would be impossible to turn with gloves on or if your fingers were real cold. The hold button on the back right side is used for holding the camera in a program mode, or whatever mode you have it in, and keeps you from changing modes electronically. I'm sure there must be more to this, as this does not make much sense to me, but again, the rep had no manual. The 24-90 lens is very sweet, but the aperture ring is a little hard to grasp because of the thickness of the lens barrel close to the camera body. I'm told this lens will sell for about $500.00 U.S. Aesthetically, the camera looks great, but my chrome limited lenses didn't look so good on it. The rep shared that Pentax brought out the chrome lenses for an upcoming range-finder camera that ended up getting shelved. As far as future chrome lenses - nobody knows right now. Functions: The fast shutter sync is 1/180 except for the new flash unit, which can sync at all speeds. The rep did not know if the data imprinting slows winding. There is no flash compensation on the body for an external flash, but the rep said it was there for the built-in flash by using the exposure compensation dials. Personally, I doubt this can be used just for flash, but suspect it's for the entire exposure. Exposure comp is set in either full or stops, and as expected, you can combine that with auto bracketing. AV mode involves turning the aperture ring - unlike the PZ1P, there is no way to control it otherwise in that mode. Viewfinder: The eyepoint is about the same as my ZX5N, which I took with me, but not having to move the eye all the way to the side to see the information really helps. The information along the bottom is sharp and unobtrusive, yet easy to see. It did not look real bright, but I was only able to try the camera in the store and out the front door. I had no problems seeing it, but it might be a little difficult in very bright light - I would wonder. The scale on the right is not activated unless needed for exposure comp, or manual mode, so that's nice. The AF brackets indicator is to the left of the shutter speed and aperture readouts, and a mini view of the viewfinder and works well enough. The viewfinder eyepiece external glass has the same dished curve to it that my ZX5N has, which is a pool for
Re: MZ-S worth
The MZ-S will have a minimum advertised price (MAP) in the U.S. I don't feel I'm at liberty (as of yet) to announce what that is, because I have not asked permission, but tomorrow I will and I don't anticipate it being a problem. But I post this now in response to the wild speculation we've seen so far about pricing in the U.S. I can tell you it competes squarely with the F100. So relax, no big surprises. Thanks, Ed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Updated web site
Nice work, Juan. Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: "Juan J. Buhler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 6:44 PM Subject: Updated web site Hi List, I have just finished updating my web pages. I added a few galleries with new pictures, reorganized the thing a little bit, etc. Check it out, link is in my .sig. Comments, especially negative ones, are welcome. j -- - Juan J. Buhler | FX Animator @ PDI | http://www.crosswinds.net/~jbuhler - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rinsing BW
Shel, Permawash is cheap, relatively speaking, and it saves even more water and time. I use a variation on Ilford's method, where I fill and invert 5 times, then use a 2 minute soak in Permawash, and then fill and invert another 5 times. Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Pentax List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 3:42 AM Subject: Rinsing BW Recently I began using Ilford's method of rinsing BW film. That's where you fill the tank, make five inversions, empty the tank, refill it, make ten inversions, and then repeat for twenty inversions. I then give the film another rinse just for good measure. Does anyone else use the Ilford method? I like it because it saves water and time. Any comments on its efficiency compared to a running water rinse for ten or twenty minutes? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Hey, darkroom junkies
Cold light is diffused and from a tube that does not generate heat, like a standard condenser enlarger head does. The advantage is very even illumination (unlike condensers, which yield a hot spot in the center) and no heat means no negative warping and popping during exposures. Diffused light of any nature will render many dust particles and small scratches on negatives invisible on prints, unlike condenser light, which tends to really exaggerate dust problems and minor scratches. Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: "Collin Brendemuehl" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 8:49 AM Subject: Re: Hey, darkroom junkies So tell me about "cold light". At 08:34 PM 2/23/01 -0500, you wrote: Print with cold light or diffusion. It makes a world of difference. If you still have problems and you're using diffusion, then you, sir, are simply a dirty person. Thanks, Ed *** "The accumulation of all powers legislative, executive and judiciary in the same hands . . . may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny." --James Madison, Federalist 47 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cutting Foam
Use an electric knife, like the kind used to filet fish or cut meat. It works great. Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: "Bill Kane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 10:32 AM Subject: Cutting Foam Hey guys, Well, this is somewhat on topic . . . I recently bought myself a nice new 4 inch telescope by Celstrong (NexStar 4) . . . I also bought a padded case with closed cell foam. I know this was discussed before on the OLD list, but What is the best method of cutting closed cell foam? To keep this on topic, the case is rather nice and big. I should have enough room to cut in a space for my MX and it's T-adapter to hook it up to the scope. I'll have pics soon, I hope. THANKS!! Illinois Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
