Re: Anybody else enjoyed the Leonids?
Currently cloudy and light snow in Yellowknifeat 00:15. No wind and -8C. Tho get clear skies we would need a good -20C I'll try at 3:00, but no great hope. Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 19 November, 2002 0:04 Subject: Anybody else enjoyed the Leonids? Hi everybody, Just got back from the hills, chilled and in big need of a hot tea to warm up my fingers enough to be able to type. This is my very first meteor storm and I must say it deserved its name. At its peak I could count more than five bright flashes per minute, and this is in a fairly populated area, with lot of residual light. Fortunately, the air was transparent, with just a bit of haze above the city that scattered right before the storm apogee. I drove on top of a hill near the outskirts where I could have a large view over the town, southwards. The full moon setting over the town in the haze was too blinding so it forced me to pick a marginal subject at the beginning, somehow dull - so I started shooting with Ilford XP2 Super. Then, right after the apogee, the thin haze dissipated, the view towards the town opened, so I switched to Provia 100 F for the more colourful cityscape. Green meteors were glimpsing right over the city horizon. I took all the pictures at 28 mm - the largest wideangle I possess :o( - at f/8 and speeds ranging from 15 to 30 seconds. Shutter on B, was counting while staring at the sky (if I ever get that MZ-S, I'll take the intervalometer too). Yes I'm aware I risked some star trails but I wanted to improve my chances of capturing the meteor trails. Not that I was very lucky - it seemed that everything interesting happened elsewhere in the sky but still, of the 80 pictures, I reckon I got at least seven clear meteors traces, of which a couple with multiple trails. Just before the moon touched down behind the town lights I switched to 135 mm and tried a tight framing - was it just my imagination or I did got a scintillation in the frame? Anyway, I can't wait to see the pictures. This time I take my transparencies to the lab. God be merciful with them if they screw it up... Servus, Alin --- Xnet scaneaza automat toate mesajele impotriva virusilor folosind RAV AntiVirus. Xnet automatically scans all messages for viruses using RAV AntiVirus. Nota: RAV AntiVirus poate sa nu detecteze toti virusii noi sau toate variantele lor. Va rugam sa luati in considerare ca exista un risc de fiecare data cand deschideti fisiere atasate si ca MobiFon nu este responsabila pentru nici un prejudiciu cauzat de virusi. Disclaimer: RAV AntiVirus may not be able to detect all new viruses and variants. Please be aware that there is a risk involved whenever opening e-mail attachments to your computer and that MobiFon is not responsible for any damages caused by viruses.
Re: How do I price this?
Interesting. Having been an IT contractor for the last 5 years, I was familiar with that aspect of work-for-hire. Luckily, in this case, this has been a personal project. No contract, hiring or reimbursement of expenses as ever taken place, so I do believe the rights issue is clear. But for the sake of argument, how much would one expect to get paid on such an endeavor, when you have to set up and shoot everyday or so for eight months? I figure an average of 20 to 30 minutes a day, from -20C in April to -20C in November so far. Plus costs of supplies and lab ... Michel - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 14 November, 2002 20:02 Subject: Re: How do I price this? - Original Message - From: Michel Adam Subject: How do I price this? This will probably be limited to a dozen pictures, and I might not even do the scanning, but how do I go about pricing this? Price it reasonably, or else you may not get paid at all. Keeping in mind that I would want to protect my future potential income derived from the many hundreds of shots I took. Has anyone done anything similar to this before? Any pointers to sources on the web? What traps to avoid? Regarding pricing, I advise you to price your work in such a way as to ensure that you get paid for it. If you get greedy, or the customer thinks your price is unreasonable, you may not get paid at all. I was involved in an identical deal some years ago when an associate of mine was photographing a hotel being built. We went out once a week, same time of day, same locations precisely (we chalk marked where the tripod legs were to sit in as many places as we could). and yes, it worked out to several hundred images. When it came time to determine usage agreements, we discovered something about Canadian copyright law which was a bit of an eye opener. It turns out that the pictures were taken on a work for hire basis. If we hadn't been hired to do the job, and hadn't been paid to do the job, the pictures would not have been taken. The sad reality was that my friend didn't own the rights to the pictures. Under the law, he was considered a contractor to the developer. The guy who was paying the tab owned the rights to the images, the same way he owned the rights to the work of the people who were constructing the building. Unless you have rights and a usage agreement spelled out in a contract, the person who is actually paying for the work owns the work. End of story. William Robb Thanks Michel
Re: I saw digital film today!
- Original Message - From: Ryan K. Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 05 November, 2002 21:16 Subject: Re: I saw digital film today! Michel Adam wrote: Thanks, but I'll pass on this particular application of digital film... What does an endoscope have to do with digital film? R I thought that the connection was rather obvious, but: The application mentionned in the original message leads me to beleive they are using this digital film to replace the one-time-use x-ray films and holders the dentist sticks in your mouth, and while telling don't gag, don't move exit the room rapidely before irradiating you. The operative words is 'in the mouth'. Hence the sterilization question. Same issue as the endoscope procedure referred to in the article. Michel
Re: I saw digital film today!
Well, I hate to rain on this parade, but that is just the kind of application I think may not last very long. What sort of sterilization do they do in between patients? Up here, in the great white north (actually south of where I am in this instance) there was a case a few months ago where they had to track down 71 patients due to a case of potential (and remotely at that) contamination of medical instrumentation. http://www.vegsource.com/talk/madcow/messages/9911380.html A man died of mad cow disease. Turns out he had had a medical procedure performed on him shortly before, and the instrument used cannot be fully sterilized between patients without being destroyed in the process. Thanks, but I'll pass on this particular application of digital film... Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 05 November, 2002 18:19 Subject: OT: I saw digital film today! Yes, I did!. It was a small thing, about the size of a frame of 35mm film, but 1/8th of an inch thick. It had a wire running out the back to a PCMCIA card that plugged into a computer. They took pictures and I saw the results in 4 seconds. Not bad! Unfortunately, I was at the Dentist's office. Yes, he had bought a device that replaced those little films he used for x-rays of teeth. It is a perfect application for digital film as it doesn't require a camera, just an x-ray machine. It works just like the real film, but there is no more developing. 4 seconds later, they have an image on the computer screen. No more looking at tiny negatives of teeth, you can bump these pictures up to full screen size and the resolution looked good. I don't think this system was inexpensive. Each room of the Dentist's office has a chair, drills, and an x-ray machine, but the dental technician who took the pictures moved the film from room to room as they seem to have only one unit. Seeing this gives me lots of hope for digital backs for my old 35mm Pentax gear... maybe not next year, but sometime in the future. I'm using 20 year old cameras. I can wait. Regards, Bob S.
Re: AF 400T swivel head
Looking at my AF400T, and seen from the top, with the unit facing forward, I can swivel the head right (clockwise) 90 degrees, and I can swivel it left (counterclockwise) 180 degrees. Perhaps it is a feature that was added later in the production run? The serial number on my unit is 850011xx . The stops on the right is 45 and 90 degrees. On the left, it is 45, 90 and 180 (no stop at 135) YMMV... Michel - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 04 November, 2002 17:04 Subject: Re: AF 400T swivel head - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: AF 400T swivel head Rotating it in the bracket is basically what I do when using the AF400T with my 6x7 and the soft shoulder reflector. I just mount the flash on the soft shoulder so it's pointing backwards. Then I set it to manual and determine my stop with a flash meter. It's just a couple of extra steps. But TTL is awesome. My LX nails every exposure in TTL mode. You can't ask for more than that. My understanding of the manual (is that the best they can do? The pages aren't even straight) is that the head itself cannot be rotated 180º. Have you thought about pointing the head straight up and attaching a reflector to it to direct the light forwards? FWIW, the Metz 45 and 60 series can do precisely what you want. The 60 series can run multiple heads off a single power pack as well, although recycle times are pretty slow. William Robb
Re: AF 400T swivel head
If this is strictly a mechanical 'feature', you may be able to 'upgrade' your flash yourself? Cut, relocate and epoxy the stop another 90 degrees? Or buy a non functionning unit that has the 180 degree feature, and swap the handle and lower housing? Michel - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 04 November, 2002 19:02 Subject: Re: AF 400T swivel head Interesting. Someone else reported the same feature on their AF400T. Mine definitely doesn't go beyone 90 degrees in either direction. Paul
Re: Poll: Primes that we wish Pentax had built
Lens name: SMC-A 8mm f/1.0 Circular Fish-eye Length: Diameter: Weight: Filter Thread: Other:Fixed focus, ideal for all-sky aurora photography -- Lens name: SMC-A 12mm f/1.0 rectilinear Length: Diameter: Weight: Filter Thread: Other: Another lens for aurora photography -- Lens name: SMC-A 16mm f/1.0 full-frame Fish-eye Length: Diameter: Weight: Filter Thread: Other:A third lens for aurora photography -- These lens should be designed for maximum performance wide open. Finally, in the 'nice to have department' : Lens name: SMC-A 6mm f/4 Circular Fish-eye, 220 degree coverage Length: Diameter: Weight: Filter Thread: Other: Fixed focus, ideal for VR work. see 'SpereCam' , http://www.nearfield.com/~dan/photo/wide/sphere/index.htm --
Re: Auroras
Well, if I was down south, where it is dark, I would recommend this: Fast, Wide, Elite Chrome 200, maybe pushed to 400. i.e., 28mm f/2, or 24mm f/2, or 24mm f/1.4 Vary the exposure from 10 to 60 seconds, in steps of 10 seconds And REMOVE ANY FILTERS! Obviously tripod and cable release... You might try a fisheye wide open (f/2.8 ?) also. Untill darkness comes back up here, I can only envy you ... Michel Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: D. Glenn Arthur Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 17 July, 2002 15:34 Subject: OT: Auroras Well it's closer to being on-topic here than the mailing list I just saw this on ... http://www3.cosmiverse.com/news/space/0702/space07160208.html NOAA forecasters estimate a 10% chance of severe geomagnetic activity on Wednesday; sky watchers should be alert for auroras. What's the concise rule-of-thumb approach to photographing these if I'm lucky enough to see one this far south? -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
67 film advance question
Help needed: I just loaded a roll of 220 in the 67. I did make sure the pressure plate was set to 220, and then advanced it so that the counter shows '0'. But only then did I remember to turn the right switch to 220. Will I be able to shoot more than 10 frames? In other words, does the 120/220 switch on the side have to be set BEFORE you close the back and start winding? Do I have to go in the darkroom and open the back and try to salvage the situation? Thanks Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Peleng 8mm circular fisheye now in K mount?
I have just purchased a Sigma unit, similar to this one from the same vendor: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1320452055 I will post a report when I get it. I had the oportunity to look at the 'AF' version, in Canon mount, and hope the MF version is of even better build quality (being older). And for $129 + shipping ... Michel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 11 January, 2002 14:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Peleng 8mm circular fisheye now in K mount? A listing on German Ebay claims to have a Peleng 8/3.5 circular fisheye lens in K mount: http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1320219348 Is this possible? That would be quite a development. No mention whether it's autoaperture. I've written to an English-speaking Russian who sells the M42 version everyday for $199 shipped (http://www.geocities.com/belshop/index.html), asking him what he knows about this. I'll report his reply. There remains my unanswered question about how someone else can be selling Sigma 8/3.5 PKAs on EBay for under $200. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Yet another pic by MIR 20mm
Two things: 1 - Love your PUG entry. Climbing on the soap box: 2 - I am not so enthusiastic about photoblink.com.You might consider moving your business from this site, to a site that does not use scripting. For security, I have scripting turned off for all untrusted site, and VERY few sites in the trusted category. It saves having to deal with those pop-up advertisings, and 99.99% of the content out there has no need whatsoever, and I do mean NO NEED, for scripts on a web page. I believe that more and more surfers are taking this stance, and I hope that the PUG site stays a 'script-free zone'. I made an exception and turned scripting on briefly, but is it turned off again. And photoblink.com is still not on my list of trusted site. Off the soap box for now... BTW, nice picture of the ship. Reminds me to scan one I did of a pleasure craft, with a 15mm. This will be my next PUG entry... Michel Adam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Artur Ledchowski Sent: Friday, 04 January, 2002 06:19 To: PDML Subject: Yet another pic by MIR 20mm Hi, For those interested in the performanceof the MC MIR 20-M 20mm f/3,5 heres another example... http://www.photoblink.com/imageview.asp?imageid=25818cid=9page=1 Greetz Artur - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: some quick scans from the 75mm f2.8 AL for 6x7
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aaron Reynolds Sent: Friday, 04 January, 2002 16:38 To: Pentax Discuss Subject: some quick scans from the 75mm f2.8 AL for 6x7 Here are three quick scans: http://homepage.mac.com/aaronreynolds/.Pictures/bokeh.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/aaronreynolds/.Pictures/barn.jpg Now there's converging lines! Now, go back and do it again with the shift lens! Michel http://homepage.mac.com/aaronreynolds/.Pictures/window.jpg I like this lens. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: FREE SMC Pentax 28/2.0
I have the K version. It is of classic construction, not the 'FREE' type. Got it from a PDMLer from Europe. Works just dandy for auroras. Michel Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original Message- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Sunday, 30 December, 2001 23:30 Subject: Re: FREE SMC Pentax 28/2.0 Yes, it is the K that interests me - and there certainly is such an animal g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The M28/2.0 is NOT a FREE lens (from observation). I suppose you want to know about the K28/2.0. Is there such an animal? -- Shel Belinkoff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: My Fav's for this Month
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Jones Sent: Sunday, 30 September, 2001 21:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: My Fav's for this Month Here are my favorites in no particular order. With little comment, as i'm to busy to write any more :) [...] Ions by Michel Adams http://pug.komkon.org/01oct/ions.html I'm always fascinated by th Aurora shots. [...] Regards, Paul Jones Thanks, but no 's' in my name. Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: 20mm F1.4
David A. Mann writes: Antti-Pekka Virjonen writes: Hmm... do I need a time machine for that ? Probably more than that... if you're after the genuine Pentax check out the prototype lenses page on Boz's site. How many prototypes were made I don't know, but I'd love to know where they are :) Cheers, And what I would like to know is WHY they did not go through with it. Cost, quality, or what ??? Does anyone know? Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: lens brightness
On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Chris Brogden wrote: That might have something to do with lens-to-film distance. Maybe the smaller mount doesn't need as large an opening because it's closer to the film plane than the K-mount? (Total guess) That being said, it happens [...] No guess at all. Did everybody forgot their high school physics at the same time? The illumination from a light source fall by the inverse square root of the distance to that source. An object twice as far as another one will receive only a fourth the amount of light the first object is receiving. That is why you must adjust exposure when using bellows. In typical use (no bellows) the built-in meters of cameras compensate for the difference in lens to film distance between infinity and closest focusing. The effect would be more pronounced on tele than on ultrawide (the 15mm hardly moves at all, compared to a 135). I will speculate that the measuring point for the formula will likely show the distance is calculated from the center of a lens to the film plane for a simple one element lens, and from the rear nodal point for a compound lens. Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Kodak Photo-CD: Good or Bad ?
Calling for input on Kodak Photo-CD. Is it worth it? In my area, scans are $2.50 per 35mm frames, $6 for medium format (for the 5 pack resolution), and the CD's are $13. How good is the quality? All I need it for at this point is to put a panorama together, i.e. scan, do the pano in photoshop, and then send it back to the lab for producing a 6x12 or 4x5 neg. or transparancy, and then print. Would I be better off with custom scans instead of mucking about with the Kodak YCC color profiles? Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Aurora Borealis shooting (WAS: Re: LX OTF metering, useful to you?)
Would it not result in a more detailed, less 'diffuse' image of the aurora if the exposure was kept as short as possible, i.e. with the largest f-stop possible? At 245 seconds, (that is over 4 minutes!), I have seen auroral curtains move half way across the sky (actually, right off the frame when using a 15mm), and have had to resort to the 16mm fisheye on the LX, and the Arsat 30mm fisheye on the 645, all of them wide open. Being shot at infinity, using wide angles, this should take care of the foreground being in focus as well, even wide open, no? As for the moon, do you have a trick? I'd like to increase the number of nights I can shoot, but I find that the moon washes out the sky in no time at all, and have resorted to simply not shoot between half moons. When you mention pushing with E100VS, do you exceed 1 stop ? And do you have any views on Elitechrome 200 ? As for the film flatness, I fear that cold temperatures will simply exacerbate the problems. One would need to keep the camera back warm without affecting the optics, assuming it makes a noticeable difference. Michel -Original Message- Subject: Aurora Borealis shooting (WAS: Re: LX OTF metering, useful to you?) Do you find it a problem that the city lights will shorten the exposure too much when trying to get the Aurora on film? Pål wrote: I avoid city lights when shooting auroras. I prefer no signs of the hand of man in my pictures. I do, howewer, usually include parts of the landscape in my aurora images; I treat it as landscape photography. I don't go for those grainy and fuzzy aurora pictures usually published but aim for landscape images that can take enlargement. When not using the OTF metering, do you have a preferred routine for exposing, i.e. 5, 10, 15, 30 sec, f/1.4 sort of thing ? I determine exposure by using the LX then dial in that exposure on my 645n. I use exposure compensation on the LX; usually minus 2/3 stop because I don't want it to look light daylight; you need the night feel. I does depend though on how powerful the Aurora is. If its very bright I might not compensate at all because the meter treat it like any backlit subject and will give the desired underexposure. The degree of compensation depends of course on the reciprocity characteristics of the film. I use the lens at F:4 because wider apertures don't give desired sharpness. The 645n is a totall hit and miss (mostly miss) affair because of film flatness problems that seems unsolveable (more of that in another post). And which emulsion(s) do you find gives better results? Kodak E100VS by a far margin. Give the most realistic colors due to its blue bias. The Aurora is very green (usually) but our brains compensate for it. By using a more neutral film the result is far greener than our brain experience the phenomena. The Ektachrome E-emulsion also have excellent reciprocity chracteristics also the way it renders blue yields punchy images. It also reacts well to pushing. At 100 ISO and F:4 shutter speed varies typically from 90s (full moon) to 245s. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Aurora Borealis shooting (WAS: Re: LX OTF metering, useful to you?)
I meant to say that the presence of the moon washes out the sky where the aurora display is taking place, and I cant get decent dark sky then. I dont think there is anything that can be done about it. It can certainly improve the landscape lighting, but the conditions must be just right (moon at your back, reasonably low on the horizon, with the aurora happening on the other side of the sky. Michel - Original Message - From: Bob Rapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 5:32 AM Subject: Re: Aurora Borealis shooting (WAS: Re: LX OTF metering, useful to you?) Re shooting the moon The moon is illuminated by the same light as the earth. The F16 rule applies. Add a 1/2 stop increase for moon rise and fall. For moon scapes expose first for the moon then block the moon and make a second exposure using the OTF. - Original Message - From: Michel Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:13 PM Subject: RE: Aurora Borealis shooting (WAS: Re: LX OTF metering, useful to you?) [...] As for the moon, do you have a trick? I'd like to increase the number of nights I can shoot, but I find that the moon washes out the sky in no time at all, and have resorted to simply not shoot between half moons. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Cleaning up 67 slides in Photoshop ?
To keep this on topic, slides where taken with a Pentax 67 and 105/2.4. Literally, my first roll with the 67! I REALLY like the size of the transparencies! Now that this is out of the way, I have a question about how to apply filters in Photoshop 5.5 (on a PC). If I scan with the Agfa Duoscan T1200, I can produce TIFF files with more than 8 bit per channel, but when imported in Photoshop, all the filters are grayed out. Only when using 8bits/channel can I apply filters. I would very much like to scan with the maximum resolution and color depth. Right now, I am testing the waters with Photoshop for the manipulations I will need to do( cleaning up the dust, and panorama stitching), and would like to get a pro-lab to do the final scans, but what would be the point of getting potentially more expensive scans done if I have to lose bits right away in order to manipulate the pictures? Am I missing something completely here? And lastly, has anyone used the PanoTools plugin to do stitching? Is there anything easier and more effective to use? Thanks Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cleaning up 67 slides in Photoshop ?
I am scanning in RGB mode, output to TIFF files. If I pick 24bit color, I can apply filters, but if I save with more than 24bit (still in RGB), then I can't use any filters. The help in Photoshop says as much (no filter in higher than 8bits/channel), but does not explain why, or how to get around this real or perceived limitation. I guess my question is: is IT a real limit, or a perceived one? And if perceived, what about getting around it with more than 12 or 16 bits per channel? Michel From: John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cleaning up 67 slides in Photoshop ? Hi Michel: On Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:34 PM, Michel Adam [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: If I scan with the Agfa Duoscan T1200, I can produce TIFF files with more than 8 bit per channel, but when imported in Photoshop, all the filters are grayed out. Are you scanning in Indexcolour mode? I find that only RGB colour mode will allow the use of manipulation with filters etc., in Photoshop SLE SNIP Michel John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What to charge for photos ...
- Original Message - From: Nicholas Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What to charge for photos ... From: Paul M. Provencher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: What to charge for photos ... First, do not let the negs go anywhere under someone else's control. In addition to this, I would strongly recommend not selling your proofs either. It's a big slap in the face when you walk into Eckerd Photo and see a customer making digital copies of the proofs you just sold her less than a couple of hours ago. What was to prevent her from scanning the 5x7 or 8x12 later on? Granted you had the sale of the enlargement, but how can you prevent the scans of prints? Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Ebay 20mm/4.5
- Original Message - From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] As an aside, why do people like 20mm lenses so much? Almost no photographer I know of uses them well (I can think of only one photographer of the hundreds if not thousands I know who works a lot with a 21mm lens and does good work with it). They're unnatural and hard to shoot with and difficult to see well with. What the heck is the big deal? I've shot with 20s but I've never felt the slightest hankering to own one. Just wondering. --Mike Ever tried a 15mm ? I find it's perspective quite natural, approximating what one can see when moving only the eyes from one side to the other. Far more useable than a 20, IMHO. I find that from a composition perspective, it forces you to really think the picture through. Your milleage will definitely varie with these lenses. Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A Harder Game
- Original Message - From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 7:12 PM Subject: A Harder Game Okay, now how about this for a slightly different and more difficult game: Let's say you suddenly win a grant. It allows you to photograph full-time for six months, of subjects and locales of your choice, and the results stand a chance of being published as a book. All your film is provided and all your travel expenses are paid. However, you can only use only one type of Pentax camera body and two Pentax prime lenses. Which body and two lenses would you choose? Totally optional: name the subject and/or locales you'd choose to photograph. I think fewer people will brave this game --Mike LX A16/2.8 Fisheye FA*24/2 AL, or better yet, 20/1.4 prototype Northern Lights Easy as pie... Michel (looking forward to the darkness in Yellowknife...) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photo Life Magazine contest: Is it a scam ?
Well this thread certainly generated some vigorous opinions. This will be my closing post on this. - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Photo Life Magazine contest: Is it a scam ? - Original Message - From: Michel Adam Subject: Photo Life Magazine contest: Is it a scam ? Has it come down to that even apparently reputable magazines are charging an entry fee, like all the scam photo publications outfit we hear about? Photo life is reputable? They are pretty much the bottom feeders of the photopublications, IMHO. Since I am not usually paying attention to this magazine, and not having formed an opinion from past issues/subscription, I felt I could not characterize it other than 'reputable untill proven otherwise'. This thread has certainly established what some of us more familliar with this publication think of it. And to top it all, the government of Canada, via it's information office, reserves the right to use your submitted photo on one of their web site! (Rule 10 of the contest). Wrong, Photo Life has sold rights to the entries to the Government of Canada. This allows them to make money on all fronts. Pretty scummy, but if you want to enter the contest, they do get to make the rules. You can choose to enter and abide by them, or not enter. I wouldn't enter it, myself For CANUCKS only: the way I spell my first name will be sufficient comment on that item. [...] And what does it say about all the sponsors/prize providers (Kodak is one of them...) ? I don't see how that would help the Canada Information Office to have pictures of Penguin for winner in the Nature category (but then again, what are we to expect from bureaucrats, business smarts ?). I doubt if the sponsors were aware of the entry rules prior to the contest. If you want to hurt Photo life on this one, I would send real, on paper, in envelopes, with a stamp on them, complaints to the sponsors. My opinion, they deserve to get their pee-pee whacked. William Robb I should just print out the messages and send them to some sponsors. Anyone objects to this? Is the act of posting to the list considered public communication (like a usenet posting) or is it still semi-private? Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Some perspective...
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 4:29 AM Subject: OT: Firearms was Howdy Digest folks! (with photo element) My biggest weapon is a 2 foot long Mighty Mag flashlight. It's black and very manly. The bear didn't like it. He was eating stale Fritos. That was OK, I didn't want them. His eyes just glowed back at me in an exquisite emerald green. Then he wuffed and walked up the driveway after finishing the corn chips. Great Scott, man! Did you get a few frames of this encounter? 'Bear-in-garden PUG' on the cards maybe??? Cotty Just to put things in perspective: http://www.nnsl.com/frames/newspapers/archive01-1/jun01/jun4_01bear.html http://www.nnsl.com/frames/newspapers/archive01-1/jun01/jun6_01edit.html http://www.nnsl.com/frames/newspapers/archive01-1/jun01/jun11_01bear.html http://www.nnsl.com/frames/newspapers/archive01-1/jun01/jun13_01bear1.html http://www.nnsl.com/frames/newspapers/archive01-1/jun01/jun13_01bear.html http://www.nnsl.com/frames/newspapers/archive01-1/jun01/jun18_01bear.html http://www.nnsl.com/frames/newspapers/archive01-1/jun01/jun22_01high.html http://www.nnsl.com/frames/newspapers/archive01-1/jun01/jun22_01bear.html ( http://www.nnsl.com/ and then do a search for 'bear' ) I normally don't carry a firearm, but I do carry pepper spray. Wilderness starts 500 meters before the last beer bottle... Michel Adam Yellowknife, N.W.T. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Some perspective...
- Original Message - From: Robert Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 2:29 PM Subject: Re: Some perspective... Michel Adam wrote: Just to put things in perspective: http://www.nnsl.com/frames/newspapers/archive01-1/jun01/jun4_01bear.html [more links snipped] Thanks for all of those articles on the joy of city life. Bob, New York City I neglected to mention that pepper spray is equally effective with two legged bears as well. Unless they are on PCP... Your milleage may vary. Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Salvaging unprocessed overexposed negs ?
List wisdom needed: Over the week-end, at an outdoor concert, I mistakenly shot two rolls at ISO/ASA 100. One was a Kodak TMY 400 (bw), the other was a Konica Centuria 800 (C-41 process). Since I am sending this to a pro-lab, can I expect to get back something usable? Any suggestions as to what tricks I should ask them to perform? Thanks Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S; First impression
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 3:36 PM Subject: MZ-S; First impression Dataimprinting: Why on earth is the use of auto bracketting imprinted but not focal length (like on the 645n)? I mean, the bracketed exposure values are of course imprinted anyway but why imprint whether bracketing was done with the auto bracketing function or done manually? I rather know what lens I used. The MZ-S may not imprint actual shutter speed in bulb mode. This is a major bug; shutterspeed information is particularly important in low light photography in B mode. I'm not sure the MZ-S do this - the manual is a bit unclear here. It clearly says that bulb is a separate exposure mode. However, in the overview of imprinted exposure modes bulb is not listed. However, in the list of shutterspeed imprinting it says that in bulb mode BU is imprinted - but is it really imprinted in the shutterspeed field? If so, what is imprinted in the exposure mode field? Ah ah, score one for the 645N... On the 645n BU is imprinted in the exposure mode field and the actual time is imprinted in the shutterspeed field. The fact that the 645n print actual shutterspeed is not mentioned in the manual so I have a brochure that VERY CLEARLY states that actual exposure time is imprinted for the 645N in Bulb mode. theres still hope for that the MZ-S do this as well. Please let us know ASAP. I know shooting low light / astro type photo is a tall order right now up north, but even a black frame with lens cap on would clear this up. Say, 35 seconds, f2 ... Oh...and mine came with both batteries and a stainless steel Pentax cofee mug! Pål At this point, I think I would save for the 645N, assuming it has good cold weather performance... This business of BUlb mode not imprinting the actual time is a MAJOR, MAJOR show stopper for me. Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX Metering
Are you guys testing with film in the camera? The differences I'm seeing (the shutter only opened for two minutes with the body cap on vs. I made a 45 minute exposure at night) seem to be explainable that way. Personally, I've made fifteen minute exposures at ISO 1600 with my LX (3200 ISO dial). -Aaron Should not make any difference. In total darkness, the reflectivity of the pressure plate vs the film should be the same (zilch). In theory anyway... Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S gripes
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 15:07 Subject: Re: MZ-S gripes Mark wrote: Absolutely. Seeing an LED bargraph go up for overexposure and down for underexposure just plain makes sense. But the point wasn't if it makes sense isolated. But whether it makes sense in conjunction with its control dial which goes left right. For me at least, theres no logic direction for a left/right wheel in order to make, say, the scale go up. In addition, that the bar graph goes up for overexposure certainly isn't in hamony with other, older Pentax bodies. On eg. the LX making the the bar graph go up means shorter shutter speeds - underexposure. Most people, and all text books, visualize exposure as varying around a zero value on a horizontal scale. Hell, all trains of numbers that relate to each other are visualized on a horizontal scale. The same is the case for the aperture scale used in calculating exposure. Pål With the significant exception of temperature scales... :-) But seriously, I can sympatize with your position, but it is dependent on a number of other factors. On classic Pentax cameras, a left to right under/overexposure scale would only work with a clockwise arrangements of speed selection on the shutter dial (LX, MX...). But then, Pentax would have to reverse the sequence of F-stop on their lenses for this to hold true. Right now, you turn the ring __towards the right__ (clockwise) to reduce overexposure, whereas you turn the shutter speed knob __toward the left__ (counterclockwise) to accomplish the same thing. One of them would have to change, or we would end up buying Sigma lenses, or maybe Chinon. Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
645N data imprinting (was Re: MZ-S Data Imprinting)
Speaking of data imprinting, can someone who uses this feature with the 645N clarify the following point: How is the 'bulb' exposure data printed, as 'B' or with the ACTUAL time ? Thanks Michel I developed some tri-x from this weekend. As I was filing it, I saw some funny exposure blotches along the edges. Hey, that there's data imprinting! So, here's a scan: http://bigdayphoto.com/tom/images/mzs-data.jpg That's Doug...Jeepgirl and Jessie are in the background. There will be more to follow. The lens is the 31mm wide open. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 645N data imprinting (was Re: MZ-S Data Imprinting)
AHA! That would be different than the way the MZ-S reportedly does it (imprinting only 'B'). Does the 645N imprint WHILE the film is advancing to the next frame, one row/column of dots at a time, or is it done all at once? Michel - Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pål wrote: It prints the actual exposure time at the B setting. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 645N data imprinting (was Re: MZ-S Data Imprinting)
Does the 645N imprint WHILE the film is advancing to the next frame, one row/column of dots at a time, or is it done all at once? I believe its done one dots at a time while rewinding the film. Not sure though Pål REWINDING ? On the 645N ? What I meant was: Is the data imprinting done as one large array of pixel, or like an old-style dot matrix printer, where there is only a column of dots that moves across and forms the letters as it is moving? In this last instance, the 'single column' of dots would be fixed and the film would be moving in front of the column. Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Attention Canadians!
Just saw today's Post. What type of film did you use for the picture of Villeneuve in the crowd ? Did they manipulate it in any way? Now I guess I should find my slides of him spraying the crowd from the podium with a giant beer bottle at the '78 Grand Prix in Montreal... Michel - Original Message - From: Frank Theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 15:15 Subject: Re: Attention Canadians! I know what you mean, Aaron. I'd prefer to give Conrad as little of my hard-earned money as possible. Especially since the cheap sob isn't paying me for the images. Oh well, at least I can now maintain my amateur status! :-) Maybe you could borrow a copy. regards,. frank Aaron Reynolds wrote: Frank Theriault wrote: This Saturday, June 2, pick up a copy of the National Post. Look for the Grand Prix of Canada feature section. Look for two images of Gilles Villeneuve, taken at Mosport in the '70's. Check the photo credit. Rock 'n' roll! I'll have to break my vow never to buy the National Post just this once. ;) -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: French Burgers (Was June PUG)
---Original Message- ... and no more Filet Mignon in France, get a BigMac. Um, isn't that called a Royale? :-) No, no, no. A Royale is a quarter pounder with cheese, a BigMac is a BigMac. Hallo Vincent and Jules!!! Mary Jane (also known as Quentin T :) Then what is a Whopper called? :) Geordie Clarke Victoria, BC Malbouffe... Michel Yellowknife, NWT - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-3/5N Multiple Exposure.
The only thing I can think off would be to use a leaf shutter lens from a 645 or 67 with the appropriate adapter, and 'B' mode. And even there, apparentely only one of the LS lens for the 67 can do it properly. Your best/cheapest solution would be to get one of the body that can do it for this application. From http://phred.org/pentax/k/ the LX, Z1p/PZ1p, Z1/PZ1, Z-5/Z-5p, MZ-7/ZX-7, MZ-30/ZX-30 would work. You might also look at a CHINON CE-4, which has a clutch mechanism for this purpose, and is also K mount. Michel - Original Message - From: Ayash Kanto Mukherjee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:56 AM Subject: MZ-3/5N Multiple Exposure. Hi! I just need to know one thing. Is it possible to do multiple exposure in MZ-3/5N? If yes, is it double exposure or more than two exposures? With regards, Ayash Kanto. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cable Release F? Who needs it.....
I ended up doing something similar, but only as far as the extension cords. The last fireworks we shot here, March 30th, I controlled 3 cameras remotely, two of them at 100 metres, by using extension cords, connected at the control end to light switches (the wall mounted kind), affixed to a piece of wood. But at the other end (a Z1p, an MZ3 and a 645), I simply used cable switch F ends, and a remote trigger cord end for the 645 (the same one that can be used for a Super A / SuperProgram). At 20 below zero, the fiddling with aluminium foil is just not an option. Also the fact that everyone was counting on this to be the pictures of record did not allow for a reshoot (aside from the $10,000 of fireworks). Another advantage of using light switches instead of the regular switches, is that when set to 'B', you don't have to hold the switches closed for the duration of the shot, typically 5 to 20 seconds. In the end, when reliability in adverse condition is an issue, the manufacturer's connectors was the only way to go. In this case, all three rolls came out fine. Even had two of them scanned to photocd. I guess I have no excuse not submit to the PUG ... Michel - Original Message - From: Bob Keefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 18:34 Subject: Cable Release F? Who needs it. Suddenly needing to remotely trigger my PZ-20 from about 15 feet away for a series of photos this weekend, I called the local camera store this morning and was told the Pentax Cable Release F was a mere $50. For a switch? So here's what I did: In the absence of any plug I could find around the house that remotely resembled the Pentax release socket, I took a length of two-strand speaker wire, stripped insulation from the ends, and wrapped one end of each strand around a smallish piece of aluminum foil, so it formed a ball about the size of a matchhead on the end of each wire. Then I stuffed the foil balls into the release socket, one each next to the middle and top contacts on the camera. A strip of black electrician's tape held it all in place. For firing, I first wrapped the other ends of the speaker wire around the twin prongs of a household extension cord, and plugged an HH-PC flash cord into the other end. The theory was I could plug the PC end of the cord into my flash meter and trigger the camera by hitting the cord-flash-meter button. This Rube Goldberg solution actually worked, although intermittently; I suspect by the time the camera trigger voltage made its way through all that wire, it was able to be stymied by any contact corrosion or lack of alignment. Eventually I gave up on the flash meter and triggered the camera by shorting across the PC connector with a car key, which worked just fine. Inelegant, perhaps, but very effective. And dead cheap. I shot two rolls and didn't waste $50 on photo price gouging. (By the way, this apparently only triggers the shutter, so you need to set focus and exposure manually...The third contact seems to do AE and AF.) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FA31/1.8 AL Limited Specifications
Denis wrote: BTW: here http://www.penta-club.org/penta/archive/2001/009/exhibition_03_rus.shtml I'm writing (yes, right now) article about this lens. But now only Russian version. English will be later. But images (just one now) of course doesn't have language :-) You can see how Pentax MZ-S imprint information to the film (right now) here also... Den Den, For the data imprinting, do you know what would be the data written when using 'B' mode? Would it be the ACTUAL time the shutter was open, or just 'B' ? Thanks Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Thanks to everyone (Was : 6x7 enabled, and questions ...)
Thanks to everyone who contributed to the thread. This will get me started. Now I'll hunt for a manual... Michel - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:03 PM Subject: Re: 6x7 enabled, and questions ... - Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds Subject: Re: 6x7 enabled, and questions ... Norman Baugher wrote: And always remember to never turn it counter-clockwise... What happens? I've never even thought of trying that... It buggers up the frame counter. The manual specifically warns against it. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 6x7 enabled, and questions ...
- Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 18:01 Subject: Re: 6x7 enabled, and questions ... Yes and no, if you want to fool the camera that it it loaded for dry firing simply open the back, manually advance the film counter so that it is at a frame number (ie past the dots) and close the back up with the counter held. Rob Studdert Is the counter supposed to increase when the back is open? or is it tied to the left hand spool? It does not advance when winding... stays at -3, and switching between 120 and 220 makes no difference (I assume the 120/220 setting near the hinge is tied to the counter ? Thanks Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 6x7 enabled, and questions ...
Thanks. I'll go grab some a past date 120 roll... Michel - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 18:30 Subject: Re: 6x7 enabled, and questions ... On 14 May 2001, at 18:23, Michel Adam wrote: Is the counter supposed to increase when the back is open? or is it tied to the left hand spool? It does not advance when winding... stays at -3, and switching between 120 and 220 makes no difference (I assume the 120/220 setting near the hinge is tied to the counter ? Without film loaded the counter will not advance and yes the film selector on the side of the camera body controls the counter action but more importantly allows you to continuously advance the 120 film at its end. Don't forget to set the pressure plate too when changing film types. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Lenses 28 mm (was RE: Gallery Themes)
- Original Message - From: Kevin Thornsberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 20:30 Subject: Lenses 28 mm (was RE: Gallery Themes) Dave, Check the following link http://www.photocritique.net/cgi-bin/phtg?GREG+SUMMERS And work through Greg's images. He takes quite a few shots with a 14 mm Sigma. (Please forgive me, he doesn't use a Pentax mount) Granted, he lives in Boulder Colorado and has some pretty nice subject matter to work with but following his work has made me lust for one of the 14 mm lenses. Some 14mm images I noted are: Sunrise Flash I have problems with that one. Where was the sun, at his back? To get that kind of cloud lighting, I think (just from personal experience) that you would need the sun facing you, which does not account for the shadows on the vegetation. Please, someone tell me they have seen that kind of lighting on clouds with the sun at their backs Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: lens of the week: 15/3.5 and A 15/3.5
I have had my 15/3.5 for two years now. What is your opinion of this lens? Very good. Makes a 28 look like a normal lens. Rectilinear correction is excellent. What do you use it for? Mostly fireworks, and Northern Lights. You can never have too much coverage with the Northern Lights. What do you like about it? The sheer 100 degree of coverage on one axis. How is the lens handling (weight, size, etc.)? Heavy, must take precautions when tilting the tripod head for portrait shots that the camera does not rotate due to the weight. How about optical qualities: resolution, contrast, color, distortion, bokeh, light fall-off, etc.? Bokeh? I almost always use it wide open, at infinity. Not applicable VERY PRONE to GHOSTING (flaring ?) when any source of light outside the field of view manage to reach the front element. I have had numerous shots of Northern Lights ruined by a lone street light some distance away that was not blocked properly. Ended up getting a gobo (Flare Buster) to try to improve things. Other than that, it is an astonishing lens, and my favorite one. Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Ultra-Wide Angle Lens Recommendations
This is a slippery slope. To get a 'fix' that last, I would recommend a 15mm, or maybe the Tamron or the Sigma 14mm/2.8. This much I know: after the first time you look through the viewfinder with a 15mm, nothing is ever the same. The 15 is not my favorite lens. Michel - Original Message - From: "Ed Dombek" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ultra-Wide Angle Lens Recommendations Question for the group: I'm looking to purchase an ultra-wide angle lens for use with my ZX-5n. The Phoenix AF 19-35mm f:3.5-4.5 seems to be in my budget range. Any comments on this particular lens or other recommendations? I'm looking to supplement my Pentax SMCP-FA 28-80mm f:3.5/5.6 and Pentax SMCP-FA 80-320mm f:4.5/5.6. Thanks in advance!!! -Ed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Happiness is...
... popping a few vitamin C pills with a nice cup of hot chocolate at 3 in the morning, after 2 hours on the ice shooting a few rolls of transparencies of the Aurora... and not a cloud in the sky! Now I have a cold... Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: scarce primes on ebay. bis
and now there's a LN SMC 85/1.8-K just showed up. I bet there'll be a 15/3.5-K coming up soon... Daphne Ain't gonna be mine... Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Saw the Aurora Last Night!
Sky watch (a Canadian magazine) had some test done, and there recommendation: Centuria 400 800 for the color negative side, and Elitechrome 200 pushed to 800 for the transparencies. Open wide (f2 or better), and start at 15 seconds and go up to 90 seconds. Michel Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "William Robb" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 12:08 Subject: Re: Saw the Aurora Last Night! Hopefully the weather will be clear in SK tonight. If so I will take a whack at it. Ummm, any film reccomendations? Fast I suppose is better. I have some 800 Portra left over from a wedding, and some Fuji RD100 in one of the LX's. Suggestions? TIA William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PZ-1pN
Thats a nice point of view. What about 35 mm fashion photographers? Or architecture photographers? What do fashion or architecture photographers require that the MZ-S or Z1-p do not offer? -Aaron - Larger negatives/transparencies (for architecture) ? For fashion, no camera in existence can improve ugly clothes. Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PS en francais (Was: MZ-S worth)
Ou, pour paraphraser Henri Cartier-Bresson, 'Pointez et tirez vous!' ("aim properly, shoot quick and scram"). Michel - Original Message - From: "Lasse Karlsson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 17:54 Subject: PS en francais (Was: MZ-S worth) Pentax Clover wrote: Please, can you tell me what PS means ??? (my english is not as good as I wish ) Pardonnez moi, je ne parle pas Francais trs bien, mais quand mme je voudrais bien essayer de repondre cette question en Francais. "PS" veut dire "Point and shoot", comme (en Francais) "Pointer(?) et tirer(?)" ou, si vous voulez, "Pointez et tirez". On utilise cette phrase pour les cameras compactes (par example le Pentax Espio etc), parce que on peut les utiliser tres facilement, seulment par pointer et tirer... (Did this make any sense in French?) Lasse - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MF lens block...
The MZ3 does, and the audible signal can be turned off as well. Michel - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 14:09 Subject: Re: MF lens block... In a message dated 2/15/01 3:46:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: have! I once got the 100mm/2.8 and the 200mm/4.0 for $120 total! Your ZX-5n will beep for you when you are in what it thinks focus is! Tiger Moses OK Tiger ~anyone~: which PENTAX bodies "beep" to confirm focus? Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Picture Funnel on eBay :-D
Occam's razor (the simplest explanation is likely the correct one) naturally leads us to Einstein's observation, that "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." I vote for Herr Professor's explanation. Michel - Original Message - From: "Len Paris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 16:11 Subject: RE: Picture Funnel on eBay :-D The silly part is that three people apparently know what it is and want it. Looks like a lens hood to me. Maybe the seller is just trying to be funny. Len --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rob Studdert Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 1:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Picture Funnel on eBay :-D Hi, Just a little respite from the MZ-S thread, one of the guys on the Leica list just posted this link. I don't want some of the drugs the dude running the auction must be on :-) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem =1214173450 Enjoy, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 Fax +61-2-9554-9259 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: News from PMA - MZ-S and other stuff
- Original Message - From: Gary L. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 11:00 AM Subject: Re: News from PMA - MZ-S and other stuff On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 10:45:38 -0700, aimcompute wrote: I'm assuming there's no such body in the works. The words "Pentax Introduces the New Flagship of Its 35mm Autofocus SLR Lineup" would indicate this is as good as it gets. Obviously Pentax believes there only competing But if you read further it says: "Heralded as the new flagship model of its popular MZ-series lineup.." Notice the "MZ-series". I would read that as meaning there is quite possibly a new "Flagship" to the complete line of SLR's which would be targeted to replace the aging PZ-1p and to go head to head with the other "top of the line" systems that are out there. [...] And I would read that as meaning we don't know how well the translator understand both English and Japanese. I am afraid that "your mileage will vary" applies here. Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: two 135mm *A F1.8 in one week.....eBay #1214261750
Half the fun is watching the action. We would not want to cut the fun short with a BIN, so I just bid the first $0.99... Michel - Original Message - From: Douglas E Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 10:38 PM Subject: FW: two 135mm *A F1.8 in one week.eBay #1214261750 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1214261750 l8r, Douglas E Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://personal.mia.bellsouth.net/~genius91/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: VIRUS
Speaking of filtering the mail, are you using Outlook Express on a Mac or PC? If on PC, do you have a foolproof set of rules to do the filtering? I am currently applying rules on the To and the CC line for 'pentax-discuss', and even looking for a significant part of the disclaimer, but I still get some messages going unfiltered, mostly from a small list of regulars.. Is there a way of filtering on the 'reply-to' line with Microlimp Lookout? Michel stuck with a PC - Original Message - From: John Glover [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 10:06 PM Subject: Re: VIRUS Yep Frank, both message from Dick and Rusty came through my filters in Outlook Express as well. I do the same thing as well, I filter messages from all my mailing list into separate folders to keep my inbox relatively clear. However, as I noted in my previous post, if I do not know who or what it is and *especially* if it has an attachment, it is automatically trashed, killed and all my folders compacted. So far so good, as I've yet to get a an email virus. John - Original Message - From: "Frank Theriault" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 4:46 PM Subject: Re: VIRUS I've got my Netscape set up to filter all my PDML messages into a separate file, so they don't "clog" up my other e-mails, and I can go through the PDML e-mails at my leisure. For some reason the e-mail from Mr. Graham, below, didn't get filtered off. Being suspicious, I didn't open the programme or file or whatever it is. Now, I'm glad I didn't. Anyone else have this "non-filtering" happen to them? regards, frank - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: SMC Pentax-M 1.4/35mm: received info from AOCo
Try adding '.htm' at the end. http://digilander.iol.it/aohc/faq3e.htm I got there via the link in his signature, then selected english, and faq. Michel - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 15:14 Subject: Re: SMC Pentax-M 1.4/35mm: received info from AOCo In a message dated 2/1/2001 5:03:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here you'll read what I believe to be the final word on the 1.4/35mm lens saga. http://digilander.iol.it/aohc/faq3e The link didn't work for me, Dario. (Unless the directory "faq3e" has an "index.html" or some other default file, it would seem that something is missing in the URL.) Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org.
Re: MY WEBPAGE WITH PHOTOS
Same here. I am using Internet Explorer 5 on an NT box, and all I see is snow. Michel - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 05:29 Subject: Re: MY WEBPAGE WITH PHOTOS At 05:00 23.1.2001 -0500, you wrote: Are these all pictures of polar bears in recent snowstorms? All I see is a blank page. Thanks, Ed Hmm... They show all right in my two old browsers (Opera Netscape 3.0), but I will check the source again. Try it again, use the exact address: http://www.volny.cz/ffranta/index.html Fr. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org.
Re: Ebay! Item #1208414897
On the Ebay subject, how does one get the COMPLETE listings, when searching? It seems that some cookie is set that normally restrict the items displayed to either the US site, UK site or the German site. Any way around that? Michel - Original Message - From: "William Kane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 13:05 Subject: Ebay! Item #1208414897 Hey guys, Take a look at this lens at ebay (Item #1208414897) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1208414897 It's huge, a 650-1300/8-16. Anyone have anyidea on a translation here? I'm thinking it's not too bad of a price . . . around 240 USD . .. Illinois Bill --- Exakta Zoom-Objektiv mit dem unglaublichen Brennweitenbereich von 650-1300mm bei Lichtstrke 8,0-16,0. Durch das T2-Anschlusystem kann das Objektiv mit dem jeweiligen T2-Adapter an 19 verschiedene Kamerasysteme angeschlossen werden. Der Adapter fr Pentax Bajonett ist im Preis enthalten. Weitere Kameraadapter sind ber uns erhltlich. Das Objektiv ist aufwendig produziert - Ganzmetallfassung und Glaslinsen, die hochwertig vergtet sind. Es wird per Innenfokussierung scharfgestellt, d.h. die Frontlinse dreht sich beim Fokussieren nicht mit - wichtig beim Einsatz von Filtern. Mit Hilfe der Stativschelle lt sich das Objektiv ohne Probleme auf einem Stativ fixieren.(Stativeinsatz wird empfohlen) Proffessionelle weie Lackierung. Naheinstellgrenze: 5 m, Filtergewinde 95 mm, Lnge 46 cm, Gewicht 1,9 kg. Neu und ovp. Mit passender Objektivtasche. 10 DM Porto bei Vorabbezahlung (Scheck/berweisung), 15 DM bei Nachnahme..-manuelle Fokussierung, Zeitautomatik ist verwendbar-- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org.
Re: F* 300/4.5 EDIF on ebay
That is the same one who failed to sell yesterday at less than $600. Michel - Original Message - From: Mark Stringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 7:21 AM Subject: F* 300/4.5 EDIF on ebay Has a buy now price of $625. That's not bad. I have one and it is great. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org.
Re: just talked to Pentax ...(about the MZ-S)
I would have done the same. By NOT hosting this list officially, they remove a subtle pressure to hold back criticism. And constructive criticism is worth it's weight in gold for a company. They were getting superior feedback whitout the expense of organising focus group, and they are getting even more now. Their new 'flagship' camera is targeted at just the kind of sophisticated users that makes up the readership of this list. That some point-and-shoot crowd might have money to burn and buy this new camera because of status is just a bonus for them. Michel From: Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] I kinda doubt that, otherwise they would still be hosting this list. Norm From: Alan Chan I was thinking, maybe Pentax did indeed monitor this list and value our opinions carefully. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org.
Re: What the hell is Quanteray anyway????
- Original Message - From: "Chris Brogden" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 16:01 Subject: Re: What the hell is Quanteray anyway On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Michel Adam wrote: I was not aware that Pentax even HAD an AF teleconverter. When did this come out? Pentax does not make an AF teleconverter, though other companies offer AF teleconverters in Pentax AF mount. Go figure. I've heard some good things about Tamron's 7-element TC's, and they offer 4-element budget versions as well. chris If you can point me to a dealer who has something (PRO version of TC in Pentax AF mount) that Tamron does not make, please let me know. Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org.
Re: Questions about film scanners (off-topic) help needed
I was looking at buying this model, and then came across the feedback. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/photo/B4TH24/customer-reviews/002-1977447-1545605 It is mixed, to say the least. I am still looking. Michel - Original Message - From: "Tom Rittenhouse" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 17:12 Subject: Re: Questions about film scanners (off-topic) help needed $200 and up. Way up. I have one of the $200 ones, a Tamarack 2400FS. I am amazed at how well it works. I would, in my option, have to spend a lot more to get a film scanner that is worth the extra money to me. Some flat bed scanners have slide attachment but everything I have hear indicates that is not the way to go if you want high quality scans. --Tom Ann Sanfedele wrote: I'm getting green with envy over you guys that have slide scanners I only have a umax 1220p which is just fine for my prints but i have zillions of slides stashed away and about 10,000 BW negs, too - The darkroom is increasingly taxing on my back and id love to be able to work more with the scanner for some stuff. Anyway... What's a good one, how much do they cost? I've been told they are VERY expensive. Is there anyway I can gerryrig the flat bed to scan a slide? - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org.
Re: A great body ... too bad it is not by Pentax
If you go with 9 perforations instead of 8, no problems. You give up some frames at the end of the roll, or the beginning if you are winding back in the cartridge. You might need a slide mount with more room for the extra perf, but for negs, the existing equipment would mostly handle it without too much fuss, I would guess. I would gladly give up a few franes per roll for this feature. Michel - Original Message - From: Jeff Tsai [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 9:09 PM Subject: RE: A great body ... too bad it is not by Pentax This would have been a cool feature. Would there be sufficient space on the negative to store the necessary information? I know the medium-formats do, but 35mm seems awfully small... Would the associated cost for this be so significant? Cheers, Jeff -Original Message- From: Bolo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A great body ... too bad it is not by Pentax [snip] A decent back that prints exposure info between frames. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Visit the PUG at http://pug.komkon.org.
Re: Charlie Rose and Henri Cartier-Bresson
They must have been short of material, and simply used it as a filler. And not a very good editing job at that. The original which aired about 6 months ago would have been nice. Michel - Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 09:45 Subject: Re: Charlie Rose and Henri Cartier-Bresson Mike Johnston wrote: I must confess that I stayed up TWO HOURS past my usual beddy-bye time last night to watch the putative "interview" performed by Charlie Rose with Henri Cartier-Bresson, and I'm pissed as a wet cat. I was, as you put it, likewise "pissed.." because I totally forgot the show until the last 20 mins or so - turns out I tuned in just a couple of minutes before the Bresson segment and was wondering who the photog was just before Bresson. I agree that Rose's interview of Bresson was lacking - geez... I have a strong suspicion that Rose knows nothing about photography - suspicion is a tad too mild I guess. What a shame. He can be pretty interesting a savvy about other matters as I recally, though I haven't really watched his show in a long time. had to sit through three sappy female National Geographic photographers who had not a thing to say but who looked like geniuses compared to the next photographer at bat, Hey - could you maybe just have called them sappy photographers? (ann, female photog, pouts.) (snip, snip about Weber) Next up, the piece de merde, ten of the emptiest minutes of TV I've ever watched on purpose, a rat-a-tat-tat of awkward questions posed to a halting old man struggling against the language barrier by an interviewer who was apparently only interested in, guess what, the celebrity value of the subjects of some of the portraits, and whose idea of a piercing journalistic question is "Who is better for you, Matisse or Picasso...to your eye [points to eye] and your heart [points to heart]?" Gag me with a stirring rod. I would not have put it quite that strongly, but it was pretty awful. About the only scant reward of the entire exercise was Henri's smile (still charming after all these years) and the sight of him saying "I never crop" while sitting directly in front of the _one_ famous picture of his which is always cropped. Hmm I might have missed this - but I do remember him pointing to the photo of the Buddist monk and muttering that it was a bad picture (that should have been cropped?) But even that was ruined when Charlie Rose (who I've never really watched before but who has now permanently convinced me of his hopeless superficiality) teased Cartier that maybe one of his celebrity photographs needed cropping and then laughed uproariously for way too long about it before gazing soulfully at the camera and truncating the non-interview with a "see you next time." NOT. Yeah, it was pretty sad. I didn't mean to just "me too" this , MIke, but wondered if we were talking about the same picture re the cropping. I was multi-tasking a bit while the end of the show was on. annsan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions.