I'm looking for ...
... the protocol to control a DSLR via USB. Sometimes friends are more precise than google. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm looking for ...
on 2012-07-11 7:02 Collin Brendemuehl wrote ... the protocol to control a DSLR via USB. Sometimes friends are more precise than google. it's not one protocol, it's several a bunch of them are wrapped into libgphoto2: http://gPhoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/ (i got this info with Google's help) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm looking for ...
Which _specific_ dSLR? On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: ... the protocol to control a DSLR via USB. Sometimes friends are more precise than google. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm looking for ...
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Which _specific_ dSLR? And specifically what controls? I doubt that all controls are accessible via USB, which is currently mostly just an in/out port. Others have added camera abilities by creating alternative *firmware* which add new menu items, etc. but no one seems to have gotten far on doing this with Pentax. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm looking for ...
I'm going to construct a generic app with tables for and updateable for multiple cameras. The general functions will be both dashboard and enterprise image management. I tried this with EyeFi but those things are battery pigs. There is always another way. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm looking for ...
on 2012-07-11 10:34 Collin Brendemuehl wrote I'm going to construct a generic app with tables for and updateable for multiple cameras. The general functions will be both dashboard and enterprise image management. I tried this with EyeFi but those things are battery pigs. There is always another way. then i think you'll find that libgphoto2 which i mentioned has done a lot of the footwork for you; it's open source, so i expect they'd welcome your contributions -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm looking for ...
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:11:04 -0600 From: steve harley p...@paper-ape.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: I'm looking for ... Message-ID: 4ffdb3a8.9010...@paper-ape.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed then i think you'll find that libgphoto2 which i mentioned has done a lot of the footwork for you; it's open source, so i expect they'd welcome your contributions Except I'm going to make something for commercial use. And being a s/w developer I know how to re-write without copying and so avoid the open source restrictions. (Little s/w dev is truly original as there are only so many ways to do things. But the app structure will be entirely mine.) Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm looking for ...
on 2012-07-11 11:17 Collin Brendemuehl wrote Except I'm going to make something for commercial use. And being a s/w developer I know how to re-write without copying and so avoid the open source restrictions. you may not need to rewrite, it's GNU LGPL These are, essentially, programs that have been written to take advantage of the LGPL-licensed library but contain little or no actual code from the library in their uncompiled form. Such works may be distributed with the LGPL-licensed library and need not themselves be distributed under the LGPL. http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk/resources/lgpl.xml -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for a Metal screw in lens hood
Yes, I believe that's one of the 1.6 inch long hoods that were originally meant for 70mm or 70-210mm lenses. It's hard to tell from the photos, sometimes the sellers fool with the image to make the hood appear longer, but the description tells it all. On 4/20/2012 5:51 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2012-04-19 12:43 P. J. Alling wrote 62mm about 2 inches 51mm long. I want to use it on my Vivitar S1 70-210mm lenses on APS-C sensor cameras. if you find one let me know; i assume this is too short: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Metal-Tele-62mm-Screw-in-Lens-Hood-Telephoto-/360447596462?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item53ec59d7ae#ht_500wt_1156 The Takumar lens hood for 150mm f4.0 serves admirably when using the F 70-210mm on an APS-C camera, and is roughly that long, so I figure I can't go too wrong. Anybody know of a source for such a thing? Almost all of the affordable lens hoods I've found seem to be 4.1mm long designed for a roughly 70mm lens on a 35mm film body. but maybe somebody here knows of one. i just discovered that a Takumar 28/3.5 rectangular hood (the only piece of pentax gear i inherited from my stepfather) fits my newly acquired FA 28/2.8 well — it compression fits to the outside of the barrel, and i understand it could be narrower, but it does offer protection and some flare control -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for a Metal screw in lens hood
on 2012-04-19 12:43 P. J. Alling wrote 62mm about 2 inches 51mm long. I want to use it on my Vivitar S1 70-210mm lenses on APS-C sensor cameras. if you find one let me know; i assume this is too short: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Metal-Tele-62mm-Screw-in-Lens-Hood-Telephoto-/360447596462?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item53ec59d7ae#ht_500wt_1156 The Takumar lens hood for 150mm f4.0 serves admirably when using the F 70-210mm on an APS-C camera, and is roughly that long, so I figure I can't go too wrong. Anybody know of a source for such a thing? Almost all of the affordable lens hoods I've found seem to be 4.1mm long designed for a roughly 70mm lens on a 35mm film body. but maybe somebody here knows of one. i just discovered that a Takumar 28/3.5 rectangular hood (the only piece of pentax gear i inherited from my stepfather) fits my newly acquired FA 28/2.8 well — it compression fits to the outside of the barrel, and i understand it could be narrower, but it does offer protection and some flare control -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Looking for a Metal screw in lens hood
62mm about 2 inches 51mm long. I want to use it on my Vivitar S1 70-210mm lenses on APS-C sensor cameras. The Takumar lens hood for 150mm f4.0 serves admirably when using the F 70-210mm on an APS-C camera, and is roughly that long, so I figure I can't go too wrong. Anybody know of a source for such a thing? Almost all of the affordable lens hoods I've found seem to be 4.1mm long designed for a roughly 70mm lens on a 35mm film body. but maybe somebody here knows of one. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - For people looking for new computers/bargains
Recently, several PDMLers were mentioning that they are in the process of upgrading/buying new computers. So, I thought I'd share some info that might be useful. As of April 2, 2012, Intel started the process of discountinuing P67 Express chipset (ahead of the release of a new/several new chipsets). I suspect this may mean some discounts for that series. I see that currently Dell is running a few specials for XPS 8300 Core i7-2600 3.4GHz 8Gb 1TB HDD computer with or without a ultrasharp monitor. w/o monitor: $750: http://www.techbargains.com/news_displayItem.cfm/294164?r1=1 w. 24 U2412M IPS LCD monitor: $1089 http://www.techbargains.com/news_displayItem.cfm/294163 w.27 u2711 IPS LCD monitor: $1250: http://www.logicbuy.com/deals/dell-xps-desktop-combo/35070.aspx Not following the Dell sales strategies, I cannot say if the prices might yet come down or not. I am not a big fan of Dell computers (even though they are better then those by some other big computer makers, e.g. such as Acer/Gateway/eMachines), but I am seriously thinking about the latter deal. U2711 sounds like a reasonable display: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2922 I hope this info might be useful to somebody else. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for a cheap monitor
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 13:14:30 -0700 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Third question: Better alternatives for under $200? Especially if they could be picked up locally rather than shipped? LG W2442PA might suit. not sure of your local shops http://otvtech.com/catalogue?page=shop.product_detailsflypage=flypage_stock.tplproduct_id=8600category_id=778 we got ours at $160 per then my son got a second at 175 first were with systems -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Looking for a cheap monitor
I've had to move my office to another room. As such the old CRT that I've been using as a second monitor on my 24 iMac doesn't fit very comfortably on the table. What I want is something like a 24 whizbang LCD in portrait orientation for working on vertically formatted photos. Realistically, anything that works well enough for me to use it for all the menus and such, would make a huge difference. It seems that the most resolution I'm going to get for a reasonable amount of dinero (under $200) is 1920x1080. Damned HDTV specs, monitor resolution kept increasing until HDTV came along, now it's damn near impossible to get anything that isn't HDTV specs. There are a gazillion different technologies, and the specs aren't always clear on what is what. I think I want to avoid TN. I suspect that contrast ratios and the like will tell me a bit about what I'm looking for. Is IPS one of the key words to look for? I'm not quite sure what the difference between contrast ratio and dynamic contrast ratio is, and whether that matters for photography. I'm pretty sure I want, at a minimum VGA and DVI, hdmi might be nice if I were to ever connect it up to my camera. First question: Is anybody in the process of upgrading, and have a decent used monitor that I could get reasonably cheaply, including shipping? Second question: I've had people recommend Dell refurbished units as good value for the money. Looking on: http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/Online/InventorySearch.aspx?brandId=222806c=uscs=22l=enMODEL_DESC=ALLs=dfh Dell Refurbished UltraSharp U2311H 23-inch Widescreen Flat Panel Display seems interesting. Third question: Better alternatives for under $200? Especially if they could be picked up locally rather than shipped? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for a cheap monitor
I have Dell 24 in. monitors (used with my MacBook Pro at work, and my Mac Mini at home). They are excellent and calibrate well. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 4:14 PM Subject: Looking for a cheap monitor I've had to move my office to another room. As such the old CRT that I've been using as a second monitor on my 24 iMac doesn't fit very comfortably on the table. What I want is something like a 24 whizbang LCD in portrait orientation for working on vertically formatted photos. Realistically, anything that works well enough for me to use it for all the menus and such, would make a huge difference. It seems that the most resolution I'm going to get for a reasonable amount of dinero (under $200) is 1920x1080. Damned HDTV specs, monitor resolution kept increasing until HDTV came along, now it's damn near impossible to get anything that isn't HDTV specs. There are a gazillion different technologies, and the specs aren't always clear on what is what. I think I want to avoid TN. I suspect that contrast ratios and the like will tell me a bit about what I'm looking for. Is IPS one of the key words to look for? I'm not quite sure what the difference between contrast ratio and dynamic contrast ratio is, and whether that matters for photography. I'm pretty sure I want, at a minimum VGA and DVI, hdmi might be nice if I were to ever connect it up to my camera. First question: Is anybody in the process of upgrading, and have a decent used monitor that I could get reasonably cheaply, including shipping? Second question: I've had people recommend Dell refurbished units as good value for the money. Looking on: http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/Online/InventorySearch.aspx?brandId=222806c=uscs=22l=enMODEL_DESC=ALLs=dfh Dell Refurbished UltraSharp U2311H 23-inch Widescreen Flat Panel Display seems interesting. Third question: Better alternatives for under $200? Especially if they could be picked up locally rather than shipped? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for a cheap monitor
There looks to be some pretty decent deals here: http://dealnews.com/c69/Computers/Peripherals/ Hope you find something you can use! -- Walt On 4/4/2012 3:14 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I've had to move my office to another room. As such the old CRT that I've been using as a second monitor on my 24 iMac doesn't fit very comfortably on the table. What I want is something like a 24 whizbang LCD in portrait orientation for working on vertically formatted photos. Realistically, anything that works well enough for me to use it for all the menus and such, would make a huge difference. It seems that the most resolution I'm going to get for a reasonable amount of dinero (under $200) is 1920x1080. Damned HDTV specs, monitor resolution kept increasing until HDTV came along, now it's damn near impossible to get anything that isn't HDTV specs. There are a gazillion different technologies, and the specs aren't always clear on what is what. I think I want to avoid TN. I suspect that contrast ratios and the like will tell me a bit about what I'm looking for. Is IPS one of the key words to look for? I'm not quite sure what the difference between contrast ratio and dynamic contrast ratio is, and whether that matters for photography. I'm pretty sure I want, at a minimum VGA and DVI, hdmi might be nice if I were to ever connect it up to my camera. First question: Is anybody in the process of upgrading, and have a decent used monitor that I could get reasonably cheaply, including shipping? Second question: I've had people recommend Dell refurbished units as good value for the money. Looking on: http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/Online/InventorySearch.aspx?brandId=222806c=uscs=22l=enMODEL_DESC=ALLs=dfh Dell Refurbished UltraSharp U2311H 23-inch Widescreen Flat Panel Display seems interesting. Third question: Better alternatives for under $200? Especially if they could be picked up locally rather than shipped? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for a cheap monitor
I ended up ordering the refurbished u2311h : http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/Online/InventorySearch.aspx?brandId=222806c=uscs=22l=enMODEL_DESC=ALLs=dfh It's an IPS display, a good size, and free shipping. Thanks to everyone for their pointers and advice. At some point I hope to be able to afford the time and money to shop for what works the best, rather than just trying to find a reasonable compromise. Hell, I couldn't even really afford the compromise. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
That new 41 MP camera you've been looking for
http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/27/tech/mobile/mobile-gadgets/index.html -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: That new 41 MP camera you've been looking for
Oops. Missed the other thread. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/27/tech/mobile/mobile-gadgets/index.html -- Steve Desjardins -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Forums, looking for all images by a certain lens
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com: Hi all, I know the Pentax Forum site is strictly verboten, but does anyone know how to search for images by a certain lens? I think I saw an email recently saying that you could find all photos by lex X for example. I don't know if you can do this in Pentax Forums but you can in the Pentax Photo Gallery. I case you don't know about this feature, go to the PPG, and select 'Cameras and Lenses' from the top right. I thought I was thinking PF, but maybe I was really thinking PPG. Thanks for that pointer! (Not that I have any business browser photos by lens as I lack both time and money!). --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax Forums, looking for all images by a certain lens
Hi all, I know the Pentax Forum site is strictly verboten, but does anyone know how to search for images by a certain lens? I think I saw an email recently saying that you could find all photos by lex X for example. Thanks! --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Forums, looking for all images by a certain lens
It's not verboten, I'd just avoid it if I valued my sanity. (Yea, Yea, Yea, I know there ain't no sanity clause). To answer your question, sorry I never cared enough to find out. Maybe WW knows. On 1/23/2012 3:06 PM, Sam L wrote: Hi all, I know the Pentax Forum site is strictly verboten, but does anyone know how to search for images by a certain lens? I think I saw an email recently saying that you could find all photos by lex X for example. Thanks! --- Sam -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Forums, looking for all images by a certain lens
On 1/23/2012 12:10 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: It's not verboten, I'd just avoid it if I valued my sanity. (Yea, Yea, Yea, I know there ain't no sanity clause). http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5133567061 To answer your question, sorry I never cared enough to find out. Maybe WW knows. On 1/23/2012 3:06 PM, Sam L wrote: Hi all, I know the Pentax Forum site is strictly verboten, but does anyone know how to search for images by a certain lens? I think I saw an email recently saying that you could find all photos by lex X for example. Thanks! --- Sam -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Forums, looking for all images by a certain lens
Quoting Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com: Hi all, I know the Pentax Forum site is strictly verboten, but does anyone know how to search for images by a certain lens? I think I saw an email recently saying that you could find all photos by lex X for example. I don't know if you can do this in Pentax Forums but you can in the Pentax Photo Gallery. I case you don't know about this feature, go to the PPG, and select 'Cameras and Lenses' from the top right. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Forums, looking for all images by a certain lens
Do you mean that Pentax Photo Gallery (instead of Pentax Forums)? In the upper right-hand corner of most pages: http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/collection/2 you'll see a link for cameras lenses. Click that and you can select the lens and/or camera you want to see. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Forums, looking for all images by a certain lens
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/post-your-photos/ There are search boxes for Search by Camera and Search by Lens. The names aren't very rigorous, it'd be best to start with the focal length or range and see what you get. On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I know the Pentax Forum site is strictly verboten, but does anyone know how to search for images by a certain lens? I think I saw an email recently saying that you could find all photos by lex X for example. Thanks! --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Forums, looking for all images by a certain lens
On 1/23/2012 3:14 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On 1/23/2012 12:10 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: It's not verboten, I'd just avoid it if I valued my sanity. (Yea, Yea, Yea, I know there ain't no sanity clause). http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5133567061 I stand, or rather sit, corrected. To answer your question, sorry I never cared enough to find out. Maybe WW knows. On 1/23/2012 3:06 PM, Sam L wrote: Hi all, I know the Pentax Forum site is strictly verboten, but does anyone know how to search for images by a certain lens? I think I saw an email recently saying that you could find all photos by lex X for example. Thanks! --- Sam -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Forums, looking for all images by a certain lens
On 24 January 2012 07:17, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: It's not verboten, I'd just avoid it if I valued my sanity. (Yea, Yea, Yea, I know there ain't no sanity clause). http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5133567061 I stand, or rather sit, corrected. Don't surrender so easily, Chico is on your side. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS2khYJZKwA regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inside Looking Out
On Dec 28, 2011, at 17:32 , Mark C wrote: On 12/28/2011 8:05 AM, frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/12/inside-looking-out.html Just a little snapshot from a walk yesterday. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank I love it too! Very sapient look to that beast - nice shot. Very big word Mark. I'll have to look it up, though I can guess. H. Wise? Or relating to Humans? Both work, it seems. It's not that life is too short, it's that you're dead for so long.. — Anon Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inside Looking Out
Hmmm... Now you got me wondering. I just looked up the word. I mean I was pretty certain I knew its meaning, and as it turns out I was close enough, but I did look and I'm glad I know for sure. I think Mark was sapient to use the word. ;-) And speaking of words, thanks for your kind words. They are appreciated. cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com Sent: December 29, 2011 12/29/11 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Inside Looking Out On Dec 28, 2011, at 17:32 , Mark C wrote: On 12/28/2011 8:05 AM, frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/12/inside-looking-out.html Just a little snapshot from a walk yesterday. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank I love it too! Very sapient look to that beast - nice shot. Very big word Mark. I'll have to look it up, though I can guess. H. Wise? Or relating to Humans? Both work, it seems. It's not that life is too short, it's that you're dead for so long.. — Anon Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Inside Looking Out
http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/12/inside-looking-out.html Just a little snapshot from a walk yesterday. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inside Looking Out
That's wonderful! :-) G On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 5:05 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/12/inside-looking-out.html Just a little snapshot from a walk yesterday. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inside Looking Out
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: That's wonderful! :-) G Ditto Dave On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 5:05 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/12/inside-looking-out.html Just a little snapshot from a walk yesterday. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inside Looking Out
On 28/12/11, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/12/inside-looking-out.html Just a little snapshot from a walk yesterday. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. LOVE IT! Fantastic grab mate - beautifully framed - superb. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inside Looking Out
On 29 December 2011 01:54, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 28/12/11, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/12/inside-looking-out.html Just a little snapshot from a walk yesterday. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. LOVE IT! Fantastic grab mate - beautifully framed - superb. ^ What he said. DS -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inside Looking Out
On 12/28/2011 8:05 AM, frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/12/inside-looking-out.html Just a little snapshot from a walk yesterday. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank Very sapient look to that beast - nice shot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inside Looking Out
Ooooh, I like that. Good catch. Paul On Dec 28, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Mark C wrote: On 12/28/2011 8:05 AM, frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/12/inside-looking-out.html Just a little snapshot from a walk yesterday. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank Very sapient look to that beast - nice shot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inside Looking Out
Excellent, Frank! Everything just right to my eye. Cheers, Christine On Dec 28, 2011, at 7:05 AM, frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/12/inside-looking-out.html Just a little snapshot from a walk yesterday. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inside Looking Out
So how do you get them to pose for you? On 12/28/2011 8:05 AM, frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/12/inside-looking-out.html Just a little snapshot from a walk yesterday. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inside Looking Out
On 12/28/2011 20:34, Paul Stenquist wrote: Ooooh, I like that. Good catch. Paul Absolutely agree ann On Dec 28, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Mark C wrote: On 12/28/2011 8:05 AM, frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/12/inside-looking-out.html Just a little snapshot from a walk yesterday. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank Very sapient look to that beast - nice shot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inside Looking Out
Thanks, Ann. Glad you enjoyed. And thanks to everyone else who looked and commented. Cheers, Frank --- Original Message --- From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Sent: December 28, 2011 12/28/11 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Inside Looking Out On 12/28/2011 20:34, Paul Stenquist wrote: Ooooh, I like that. Good catch. Paul Absolutely agree ann On Dec 28, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Mark C wrote: On 12/28/2011 8:05 AM, frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/12/inside-looking-out.html Just a little snapshot from a walk yesterday. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank Very sapient look to that beast - nice shot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Looking for a white elephant...
Does anyone have an Imacon film scanner they might be willing to part with? I may be in the market. Drop me a line, off-list, if you have one or know of one. Thanks! Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT Looking for design assistance
My plan for the shed door was to paint the main part of the door the same brown colour that the shed is, and leave the trim white. Now, having primed the door and trim, it does not look bad as all white. My dilemma, keep it all white: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/_IGP6520-2.JPG or paint it brown and leave trim white.: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/_IGP6520-1.JPG Pleas excuse the poor colouring on the door, the sample eye dropper did not get it close at all. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Looking for design assistance
Brown? Wassamatterwichu? http://somoag.org/files/WebPages/Missions/redBarn.jpg : ) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Looking for design assistance
I'd go with all-white. Aside from looking just fine that way, it's less hassle. And, if you decide you need to repaint it someday, you'll be glad you went with white. -- Walt On 9/26/2011 9:44 AM, David J Brooks wrote: My plan for the shed door was to paint the main part of the door the same brown colour that the shed is, and leave the trim white. Now, having primed the door and trim, it does not look bad as all white. My dilemma, keep it all white: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/_IGP6520-2.JPG or paint it brown and leave trim white.: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/_IGP6520-1.JPG Pleas excuse the poor colouring on the door, the sample eye dropper did not get it close at all. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Looking for design assistance
I think you should buy a can of Paisley, you're an artist dammit act like one. On 9/26/2011 10:44 AM, David J Brooks wrote: My plan for the shed door was to paint the main part of the door the same brown colour that the shed is, and leave the trim white. Now, having primed the door and trim, it does not look bad as all white. My dilemma, keep it all white: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/_IGP6520-2.JPG or paint it brown and leave trim white.: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/_IGP6520-1.JPG Pleas excuse the poor colouring on the door, the sample eye dropper did not get it close at all. Dave -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Looking for design assistance
Use a spray gun so it looks exactly like it does in the picture... ;] -p On 9/26/2011 9:44 AM, David J Brooks wrote: My plan for the shed door was to paint the main part of the door the same brown colour that the shed is, and leave the trim white. Now, having primed the door and trim, it does not look bad as all white. My dilemma, keep it all white: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/_IGP6520-2.JPG or paint it brown and leave trim white.: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/_IGP6520-1.JPG Pleas excuse the poor colouring on the door, the sample eye dropper did not get it close at all. Dave -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Looking for design assistance
Brown On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:44 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: My plan for the shed door was to paint the main part of the door the same brown colour that the shed is, and leave the trim white. Now, having primed the door and trim, it does not look bad as all white. My dilemma, keep it all white: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/_IGP6520-2.JPG or paint it brown and leave trim white.: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/_IGP6520-1.JPG Pleas excuse the poor colouring on the door, the sample eye dropper did not get it close at all. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Looking for design assistance
White would look better IMHO. Unless you are trying to de-emphasize the shed's presence. Brown would be less obtrusive. By the way, I think it was a very fine job you did on this project! But no more than I would expect from someone who shares a birthday with me (:-) stan On Sep 26, 2011, at 10:44 AM, David J Brooks wrote: My plan for the shed door was to paint the main part of the door the same brown colour that the shed is, and leave the trim white. Now, having primed the door and trim, it does not look bad as all white. My dilemma, keep it all white: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/_IGP6520-2.JPG or paint it brown and leave trim white.: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/_IGP6520-1.JPG Pleas excuse the poor colouring on the door, the sample eye dropper did not get it close at all. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
A friend has some provia etc. that he's looking for a home for.
My friend John Dubois spce...@armory.com who I've cc'd, posted the following to his facebook wall today. I suspect that if any group has someone that would want some free film, it would be this group of technological throwbacks. I have 10 rolls of Provia 1600 slide film (actually 400 speed, intended to be pushed to 800-3200), 6 rolls of Provia 100F, and a few other rolls of assorted 35mm film. It's all 3+ years old, but has been in the fridge continuously since I bought it. It seems unlikely at this point that I'll ever expose it, so if you'd like to take it off my hands, let me know. So, don't contact me, email John at: spce...@armory.com -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Looking Downstream
From: P. J. Alling It seems that Dropbox changed the way they generate Public Addresses, which I'd devised a way to cheat on, saving myself a step, when posting. I deleted the old html page and uploaded another. Try this one. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20lookingdownstream.html Yep. That did it. You can see the faintest hint that spring is on the way. On 3/23/2011 3:09 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling Another the calendar say's it's spring but the weather won't cooperate image. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/GESO%20--%20lookingdownstream.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. Error 404 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO -- Looking Downstream
From: P. J. Alling Another the calendar say's it's spring but the weather won't cooperate image. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/GESO%20--%20lookingdownstream.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. Error 404 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Looking Downstream
It seems that Dropbox changed the way they generate Public Addresses, which I'd devised a way to cheat on, saving myself a step, when posting. I deleted the old html page and uploaded another. Try this one. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20lookingdownstream.html On 3/23/2011 3:09 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling Another the calendar say's it's spring but the weather won't cooperate image. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/GESO%20--%20lookingdownstream.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. Error 404 -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- Looking Downstream
Another the calendar say's it's spring but the weather won't cooperate image. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/GESO%20--%20lookingdownstream.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Looking Downstream
Well composed, Peter. Do one of these in all four seasons, OK? Guess you'll have to wait awhile for the spring version, however. ;) Jack --- On Tue, 3/22/11, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO -- Looking Downstream To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 11:38 AM Another the calendar say's it's spring but the weather won't cooperate image. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/GESO%20--%20lookingdownstream.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Looking Downstream
Nice rich blues in this Dave On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 2:38 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Another the calendar say's it's spring but the weather won't cooperate image. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/GESO%20--%20lookingdownstream.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- Looking Up Stream
Another from my not quite spring suite. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20lookingupstream.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Looking Up Stream
and tomorrow we get the snow again I like both of your stream shots, PJ - tranquil and inviting scenes ann P. J. Alling wrote: Another from my not quite spring suite. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20lookingupstream.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: paw week 8--please read before looking
On 2/26/2011 10:58 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:16 -0600, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views on anyone here, so I hope no one will be offended. From a pure photographic standpoint, I am rather proud of the two photos I posted to my PAW blog this week. Frankly, I'm amazed I was able to get any pictures taken, since I was constantly alternating between being demonstrator then photographer--and in the end, mostly demonstrator. If anyone is interested, there's a link below the second picture to a more comprehensive gallery of the day's events. Cheers, Christine from Chicago, Local 1600 :-) http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/paw-week-8 Yes apparently if you serve in the Senate in Wisconsin you need a good excuse medical or compassionate, (Death in the family, that sort of thing), to be absent while while in session. According to the LA Times it''s rule 15. Rule 84 allows the members present to secure a quorum. The absent members can be compelled to appear. Since it's up to the Sargent at Arms of that body to enforce that rule, I would assume by force if necessary. Excellent. What with the situation in Libya and the Christchurch earthquake, the demonstrations in the US haven't received a lot of coverage here - at least on the few news broadcasts I watch these days. I did some googling to inform myself a bit more - one bizarre thing I found was that Wisconsin democrats have apparently gone interstate to avoid being brought to the state legislature by the State police. The report I read says The Republican controlled Senate dispatched the state troopers to find the Democrats, but they were unsuccessful. A group of them have opted to stay in a hotel just on the other side of the state line in Illinois. Is that real? Anyway - two excellent documentary images. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: paw week 8--please read before looking
In this instance the Firemen and Police, who actually risk their lives in performance of the duty are exempted. . By the way there are plenty of protests against CEO's and executives compensation. Usually in stock holders meetings. The difference is that they can't hold a gun to your head and say pay up. If enough people are unhappy with how a company is run they sell their stock and the price plummets. If you don't like a companies products no one buys them and the company goes bust. It's a voluntary relationship. Being a taxpayer, (statements on the IRS forms to the contrary), is not. By the way you must have missed the protests against the executives of a number of mutual funds who had the temerity to demand that the GM bankruptcy be handled by the Standard US Code. Rather than with the special deal that was cooked up by the current administration. to reward it's supporters. On 2/27/2011 9:56 AM, frank theriault wrote: On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Boris, No armed revolts here, but many unhappy people. The perception is that public employees - teachers, police, firemen are retiring at 2/3 or 3/4 of annual salary as paid by the state government. Most people are not covered by such pensions and have seen their retirement 'nest egg' fall by 50% or more in the financial crisis. (Falling home prices vs fixed mortgage loans have wiped out homes as assets.) So the 'have-nots' now resent the union deals and see pensions as something they will pay increased taxes to cover in the future. snip These people (the unionized public employees) perform important functions in our society, and for the most part deserve their salaries and other benefits. They unionized and made their deals when times were good, and one can't blame them for holding on to them as best they can. I don't know about Chicago or elsewhere in the US, but here there has been an ongoing attack on unionized public sector workers for some time. Since government can't simply wipe out contracts already made, they now have things like hiring freezes, hire loads of part time employees (who aren't unionized) or contract out lots of work (which studies show often don't save money in the long run). Services are being trimmed and shut down to the detriment of those who can least afford it. But hey, it saves tax payers' money, so that's okay, right? Funny, but I don't see mass protests about how much CEOs and executives at car companies or banks make - or what their pension plans are worth. I'd bet it's a lot more than what the average cop or teacher makes. How many billions of government dollars went into bailing out those two industries? cheers, frank -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 500px, not bad looking at all
Beautiful site with a fresh look. Thanks for letting us know. Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It seems like another photo aggregation community portfolio whatnot, but prettier than most: http://500px.com/ -Tim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2/28/2011 1:14 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: GM's new Cruze is very competitive with the best of the small imports: http://www.nytimes.com/pages/automobiles/index.html Paul Over here Cruze is often seen on the street, yet it does not have the same reputation or pedigree as its Japanese or even European rivals. To that end, I think that Hyundai i30/Kia C'eed is more successful. I drove C'eed for 2.5 years - I can say about it only good things. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It will be interesting to see how things work out for the big three over the next decade or so. Yeah - Go FORD ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before looking On 27/02/2011 17:51, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Feb 27, 2011, at 10:37 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 27/02/2011 17:28, frank theriault wrote: On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: And Frank, I want to tell you something that will make you happy. We visited rich friends in a gated community in Naples Florida. 4 people on their block were early retirees from General Motors. Their pension benefits were capped at $72K. (I know that's a lot, but it's a lot less than they were getting.) And the highest ranked among them has already sold and move back to Michigan. They were all drawing money from 'defered compensation plans', where GM held back some salary to pay them later at a lower tax rate. Guess what. In bankruptcy, all those funds go to the creditors. It puts a 6 figure crimp in their lifestyles... Regards, Bob S. That doesn't make me particularly happy, Bob. First of all, I'm sure these people worked hard for their money, often working long hours, weekends, with many business trips and lots of pressure. I may not agree that the work they did was for the betterment of all, but they had every right to rely on agreements made with their company and to pattern their life accordingly. The fact that due to GM making bad decisions they lost their pensions or a portion thereof only means that creditors got that money - and I'm sure that banks reaped most of that benefit. I'd rather see the money in the hands of an individual than a huge faceless corporation. I don't think there's anything happy about your story. Agreed. If they had been in a union, it would hopefully not have allowed those funds to be kept in a place available to creditors. Did GM actually go bankrupt? -- GM declared bankruptcy and was reorganized as two companies: one held the bad assets, and the new GM held the good assets. It was a necessary step due to way too many dealerships that had become non performers but had franchise agreements that compelled GM to continue to keep them in business. It was also necessary due to onerous obligations to the union. Many of those agreements were made at a time when the Detroit automakers monopolized the U.S. car market. The union would strike, and the automakers would give them whatever they wanted and roll it into the price of the cars. That usually meant taking quality out. So bad management practice, at least as much as greedy unions. Now, many of GM's union obligations have been brought more in line with reality, although they are still more of a burden than other automakers have to contend with. Toyota, Honda and most other foreign automakers build cars in non-union U.S. factories, located in right-to-work states (states with laws barring compulsory union membership). The lack of union commitments on the part of other auto manufacturers made the Detroit automakers union contracts untenable if they were to compete. This is what I find hard to understand. Workers organise themselves to improve their conditions. Weekends off, paid holidays, health benefits, living wages. Management did its best to minimise those improvements and continues to do so. Yet in the USA the very people who would benefit from the organised effort are often, it seems, the ones who oppose it - the working class. They seem to have a classic death wish in their urge to participate in a race to the bottom and the people who are orchestrating the race are held up as bastions of industry, opposing some kind of socialist takeover of the American dream. Utterly bizarre to the outside, dispassionate viewer. There also seems to be a more noticable corruption problem in US unions than many other places, although the people that I talk to about it are equally vehement about corruption in politics, media, police forces and business. GM has already paid back a substantial amount of its government loans, and the government has been selling off its GM stock at a profit. The same is happening at Chrysler, although at a slower pace. The industry bailout was well planned and well executed. It saved a major U.S. industry and an entire region, and in the end, it will cost the taxpayers nothing. Paul It will be interesting to see how things work out for the big three over the next decade or so. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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All of my GMC and or Chevy trucks, 4x4, have had transmission issues, expensive ones to. It will most likely keep me from buying another, but, i do like the ride and seat in the gm'S dave On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:26 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: William Robb On 27/02/2011 2:14 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Read today's NY Times review of the Chevrolet Cruze, it puts Accord and Civic to shame. GM has always had a nice car off the line. What will separate the Cruze from the Civic is life expectancy. This is why I put very little stock in car tests. My Grand Am was a gorgeous car until about 20K Kilometres, which was the life expectancy of the Quad4. My own experience with The General has been bad enough to make buying anything but a GM vehicle a lifetime decision. Mixed review here. I've owned and driven several Chevrolet vehicles over the years. Thinking back about it, the only one that was really crap was the 1980 Chevrolet Citation. That was Chevy's first FWD vehicle and the CV-joints were crap, plus the dealer's service didn't know a CV-joint from a hole in the ground. Couldn't recognize the problem, so they couldn't fix it. Drove Chevy's before that; drove Chevy Vans after that, currently driving a Ford. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3472 - Release Date: 02/27/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: William Robb On 27/02/2011 2:14 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Read today's NY Times review of the Chevrolet Cruze, it puts Accord and Civic to shame. GM has always had a nice car off the line. What will separate the Cruze from the Civic is life expectancy. This is why I put very little stock in car tests. My Grand Am was a gorgeous car until about 20K Kilometres, which was the life expectancy of the Quad4. My own experience with The General has been bad enough to make buying anything but a GM vehicle a lifetime decision. Mixed review here. I've owned and driven several Chevrolet vehicles over the years. Thinking back about it, the only one that was really crap was the 1980 Chevrolet Citation. That was Chevy's first FWD vehicle and the CV-joints were crap, plus the dealer's service didn't know a CV-joint from a hole in the ground. Couldn't recognize the problem, so they couldn't fix it. Drove Chevy's before that; drove Chevy Vans after that, currently driving a Ford. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3472 - Release Date: 02/27/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: snip I do find it interesting that a lot of teachers buy Hondas and Toyota that are produced in right to work states by non-union workers. There's a bit of do as I say, not as I do in that kind of reasoning. Your posts absolutely reek of anti-unionism, Paul. That's fine, you don't like unions, you're entitled. But at least admit that you don't like them. The above non-empirical purely anecdotal statement doesn't prove a thing, except that you'll say just about anything to bash unions and their members. I've got news for you, Paul. I've been to the US. ~Lots~ of people drive foreign cars. I don't know how you can tell the professions or labour leanings of all those drivers. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: snip the UAW raises my hacklessnip Really? I hadn't noticed... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views on anyone here, so I hope no one will be offended. From a pure photographic standpoint, I am rather proud of the two photos I posted to my PAW blog this week. http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/paw-week-8 Ooh! I do like that first one. She has such a lovely face, and it's so obviously weighed down with worry and concern. Your moment was quite decisive. -- Scott (the non-union, American-made-Nissan driving, bicycle riding, small-l libertarian) Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ __o _'\,_ (*)/ (*) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's a really good set Christine. Your first choice is a good one, but I think this one is much more powerful than your second choice: http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chglaborrally/content/_IGP7155_large.html Chris On 27 February 2011 03:16, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views on anyone here, so I hope no one will be offended. From a pure photographic standpoint, I am rather proud of the two photos I posted to my PAW blog this week. Frankly, I'm amazed I was able to get any pictures taken, since I was constantly alternating between being demonstrator then photographer--and in the end, mostly demonstrator. If anyone is interested, there's a link below the second picture to a more comprehensive gallery of the day's events. Cheers, Christine from Chicago, Local 1600 :-) http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/paw-week-8 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Despite the fact that you eventually turned demonstrator, you did an excellent job as a photographer, Christine. I am not offended, obviously, though a little devil inside me begs me to type down the question - aren't you going to overthrow your government too? And then another little devil asking - has the world revolution finally started? But seriously, there is much sense in what's going on now practically everywhere in the world. At least that's how methinks... Boris On 2/27/2011 5:16 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views on anyone here, so I hope no one will be offended. From a pure photographic standpoint, I am rather proud of the two photos I posted to my PAW blog this week. Frankly, I'm amazed I was able to get any pictures taken, since I was constantly alternating between being demonstrator then photographer--and in the end, mostly demonstrator. If anyone is interested, there's a link below the second picture to a more comprehensive gallery of the day's events. Cheers, Christine from Chicago, Local 1600 :-) http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/paw-week-8 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Really nicely caught, Christine! Especially like #1. Jack --- On Sat, 2/26/11, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net Subject: paw week 8--please read before looking To: pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 7:16 PM Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views on anyone here, so I hope no one will be offended. From a pure photographic standpoint, I am rather proud of the two photos I posted to my PAW blog this week. Frankly, I'm amazed I was able to get any pictures taken, since I was constantly alternating between being demonstrator then photographer--and in the end, mostly demonstrator. If anyone is interested, there's a link below the second picture to a more comprehensive gallery of the day's events. Cheers, Christine from Chicago, Local 1600 :-) http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/paw-week-8 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That first picture is very strong. Maybe crop it a bit at the right? -T On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Christine - I love these... and I'm with you, too. Good job! ann Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views on anyone here, so I hope no one will be offended. From a pure photographic standpoint, I am rather proud of the two photos I posted to my PAW blog this week. Frankly, I'm amazed I was able to get any pictures taken, since I was constantly alternating between being demonstrator then photographer--and in the end, mostly demonstrator. If anyone is interested, there's a link below the second picture to a more comprehensive gallery of the day's events. Cheers, Christine from Chicago, Local 1600 :-) http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/paw-week-8 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I like them both, however i really like the first shot. Great detail and emotion here. Dave On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views on anyone here, so I hope no one will be offended. From a pure photographic standpoint, I am rather proud of the two photos I posted to my PAW blog this week. Frankly, I'm amazed I was able to get any pictures taken, since I was constantly alternating between being demonstrator then photographer--and in the end, mostly demonstrator. If anyone is interested, there's a link below the second picture to a more comprehensive gallery of the day's events. Cheers, Christine from Chicago, Local 1600 :-) http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/paw-week-8 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Boris, No armed revolts here, but many unhappy people. The perception is that public employees - teachers, police, firemen are retiring at 2/3 or 3/4 of annual salary as paid by the state government. Most people are not covered by such pensions and have seen their retirement 'nest egg' fall by 50% or more in the financial crisis. (Falling home prices vs fixed mortgage loans have wiped out homes as assets.) So the 'have-nots' now resent the union deals and see pensions as something they will pay increased taxes to cover in the future. The percieved injustice of the situation complicates things. The public employee unions have been very successful negotiating with the politicians. And the politicians have hidden that success in future IOU's, not raising taxes to fund the future debts. The unions are often the most powerful supporters of politicians with loose purse strings, and the cycle continues. From time to time, we throw out the old politicians and elect new ones. Often the new politicians have no idea how to solve the problems, but propose some outlandish remedies that make the 'have nots' feel better. After a lot of shouting and protest, the problems get sorted and painfull solutions are implemented. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Despite the fact that you eventually turned demonstrator, you did an excellent job as a photographer, Christine. I am not offended, obviously, though a little devil inside me begs me to type down the question - aren't you going to overthrow your government too? And then another little devil asking - has the world revolution finally started? But seriously, there is much sense in what's going on now practically everywhere in the world. At least that's how methinks... Boris On 2/27/2011 5:16 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views on anyone here, so I hope no one will be offended. From a pure photographic standpoint, I am rather proud of the two photos I posted to my PAW blog this week. Frankly, I'm amazed I was able to get any pictures taken, since I was constantly alternating between being demonstrator then photographer--and in the end, mostly demonstrator. If anyone is interested, there's a link below the second picture to a more comprehensive gallery of the day's events. Cheers, Christine from Chicago, Local 1600 :-) http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/paw-week-8 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Boris, No armed revolts here, but many unhappy people. The perception is that public employees - teachers, police, firemen are retiring at 2/3 or 3/4 of annual salary as paid by the state government. Most people are not covered by such pensions and have seen their retirement 'nest egg' fall by 50% or more in the financial crisis. (Falling home prices vs fixed mortgage loans have wiped out homes as assets.) So the 'have-nots' now resent the union deals and see pensions as something they will pay increased taxes to cover in the future. snip These people (the unionized public employees) perform important functions in our society, and for the most part deserve their salaries and other benefits. They unionized and made their deals when times were good, and one can't blame them for holding on to them as best they can. I don't know about Chicago or elsewhere in the US, but here there has been an ongoing attack on unionized public sector workers for some time. Since government can't simply wipe out contracts already made, they now have things like hiring freezes, hire loads of part time employees (who aren't unionized) or contract out lots of work (which studies show often don't save money in the long run). Services are being trimmed and shut down to the detriment of those who can least afford it. But hey, it saves tax payers' money, so that's okay, right? Funny, but I don't see mass protests about how much CEOs and executives at car companies or banks make - or what their pension plans are worth. I'd bet it's a lot more than what the average cop or teacher makes. How many billions of government dollars went into bailing out those two industries? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bob, Frank, I was merely making a passing joke on the way Christine described her being both the part of the demonstration and an external observer with the camera. I realize that social and economic pressure is high in your country, although specifics vary with areas, etc. We have very similar issues here as well, although they are somewhat different in specifics, which I cannot possibly give, because I don't follow on this, mostly because I don't really understand all the details and all the nuances. If you (either of you) want to discuss it further, I reckon we can do it off the list, for obvious reasons. Boris On 2/27/2011 4:56 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Boris, No armed revolts here, but many unhappy people. The perception is that public employees - teachers, police, firemen are retiring at 2/3 or 3/4 of annual salary as paid by the state government. Most people are not covered by such pensions and have seen their retirement 'nest egg' fall by 50% or more in the financial crisis. (Falling home prices vs fixed mortgage loans have wiped out homes as assets.) So the 'have-nots' now resent the union deals and see pensions as something they will pay increased taxes to cover in the future. snip These people (the unionized public employees) perform important functions in our society, and for the most part deserve their salaries and other benefits. They unionized and made their deals when times were good, and one can't blame them for holding on to them as best they can. I don't know about Chicago or elsewhere in the US, but here there has been an ongoing attack on unionized public sector workers for some time. Since government can't simply wipe out contracts already made, they now have things like hiring freezes, hire loads of part time employees (who aren't unionized) or contract out lots of work (which studies show often don't save money in the long run). Services are being trimmed and shut down to the detriment of those who can least afford it. But hey, it saves tax payers' money, so that's okay, right? Funny, but I don't see mass protests about how much CEOs and executives at car companies or banks make - or what their pension plans are worth. I'd bet it's a lot more than what the average cop or teacher makes. How many billions of government dollars went into bailing out those two industries? cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Bob, Frank, I was merely making a passing joke on the way Christine described her being both the part of the demonstration and an external observer with the camera. I realize that social and economic pressure is high in your country, although specifics vary with areas, etc. We have very similar issues here as well, although they are somewhat different in specifics, which I cannot possibly give, because I don't follow on this, mostly because I don't really understand all the details and all the nuances. If you (either of you) want to discuss it further, I reckon we can do it off the list, for obvious reasons. He started it. cheers, frank ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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No, No now Frank, I was trying to be neutral about it. The teachers, police, and firemen make valuable contributions, and we have a contract with them that we must honor. I'm just reflecting what I heard last Monday at dinner with my car buddies. One is a retired teacher headed to Florida for 2 months of sunshine. The other guy is a 67 year old car salesman without any pension. Guess which one was bending my ear about goverment worker pensions. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:21 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Bob, Frank, I was merely making a passing joke on the way Christine described her being both the part of the demonstration and an external observer with the camera. I realize that social and economic pressure is high in your country, although specifics vary with areas, etc. We have very similar issues here as well, although they are somewhat different in specifics, which I cannot possibly give, because I don't follow on this, mostly because I don't really understand all the details and all the nuances. If you (either of you) want to discuss it further, I reckon we can do it off the list, for obvious reasons. He started it. cheers, frank ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 27/02/2011 15:40, Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris, No armed revolts here, but many unhappy people. The perception is that public employees - teachers, police, firemen are retiring at 2/3 or 3/4 of annual salary as paid by the state government. Most people are not covered by such pensions and have seen their retirement 'nest egg' fall by 50% or more in the financial crisis. (Falling home prices vs fixed mortgage loans have wiped out homes as assets.) So the 'have-nots' now resent the union deals and see pensions as something they will pay increased taxes to cover in the future. The percieved injustice of the situation complicates things. The public employee unions have been very successful negotiating with the politicians. And the politicians have hidden that success in future IOU's, not raising taxes to fund the future debts. The unions are often the most powerful supporters of politicians with loose purse strings, and the cycle continues. You do know that about 2/3 of the highest grossing US companies and 68% of foreign companies working in the US paid virtually no tax last year? The injustice of the situation is radically different to the perception. Many people outside the US are astonished at the way turkeys keep voting for Christmas. From time to time, we throw out the old politicians and elect new ones. Often the new politicians have no idea how to solve the problems, but propose some outlandish remedies that make the 'have nots' feel better. After a lot of shouting and protest, the problems get sorted and painfull solutions are implemented. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote: Despite the fact that you eventually turned demonstrator, you did an excellent job as a photographer, Christine. I am not offended, obviously, though a little devil inside me begs me to type down the question - aren't you going to overthrow your government too? And then another little devil asking - has the world revolution finally started? But seriously, there is much sense in what's going on now practically everywhere in the world. At least that's how methinks... Boris On 2/27/2011 5:16 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views on anyone here, so I hope no one will be offended. From a pure photographic standpoint, I am rather proud of the two photos I posted to my PAW blog this week. Frankly, I'm amazed I was able to get any pictures taken, since I was constantly alternating between being demonstrator then photographer--and in the end, mostly demonstrator. If anyone is interested, there's a link below the second picture to a more comprehensive gallery of the day's events. Cheers, Christine from Chicago, Local 1600 :-) http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/paw-week-8 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: No, No now Frank, I was trying to be neutral about it. The teachers, police, and firemen make valuable contributions, and we have a contract with them that we must honor. I'm just reflecting what I heard last Monday at dinner with my car buddies. One is a retired teacher headed to Florida for 2 months of sunshine. The other guy is a 67 year old car salesman without any pension. Guess which one was bending my ear about goverment worker pensions. Regards, Bob S. I hope you saw the smiley at the bottom of my last post, Bob. I know you were trying to be neutral - so was I, believe it or not. My beef (bad choice of words for a vegan) isn't with you, it's with those who blame unions for everything. However, as Boris says, this isn't the place, is it? ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Paul. I wish I could say I totally planned the composition at the point of capture, but I can't :-). I think I got a bit lucky there. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 9:16 PM Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before looking Well done. I like the composition on the second shot, where you took advantage of the interesting background. Nice tonality on both as well. Paul On Feb 26, 2011, at 10:16 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views on anyone here, so I hope no one will be offended. From a pure photographic standpoint, I am rather proud of the two photos I posted to my PAW blog this week. Frankly, I'm amazed I was able to get any pictures taken, since I was constantly alternating between being demonstrator then photographer--and in the end, mostly demonstrator. If anyone is interested, there's a link below the second picture to a more comprehensive gallery of the day's events. Cheers, Christine from Chicago, Local 1600 :-) http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/paw-week-8 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Tim. I'll take a look at a possible crop. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 9:43 PM Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before looking That first picture is very strong. Maybe crop it a bit at the right? -T On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Christine - I love these... and I'm with you, too. Good job! ann Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views on anyone here, so I hope no one will be offended. From a pure photographic standpoint, I am rather proud of the two photos I posted to my PAW blog this week. Frankly, I'm amazed I was able to get any pictures taken, since I was constantly alternating between being demonstrator then photographer--and in the end, mostly demonstrator. If anyone is interested, there's a link below the second picture to a more comprehensive gallery of the day's events. Cheers, Christine from Chicago, Local 1600 :-) http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/paw-week-8 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Brian. I see Stan answered your question about quorum and the 14 Dems. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 9:58 PM Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before looking On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:16 -0600, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views on anyone here, so I hope no one will be offended. From a pure photographic standpoint, I am rather proud of the two photos I posted to my PAW blog this week. Frankly, I'm amazed I was able to get any pictures taken, since I was constantly alternating between being demonstrator then photographer--and in the end, mostly demonstrator. If anyone is interested, there's a link below the second picture to a more comprehensive gallery of the day's events. Cheers, Christine from Chicago, Local 1600 :-) http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/paw-week-8 Excellent. What with the situation in Libya and the Christchurch earthquake, the demonstrations in the US haven't received a lot of coverage here - at least on the few news broadcasts I watch these days. I did some googling to inform myself a bit more - one bizarre thing I found was that Wisconsin democrats have apparently gone interstate to avoid being brought to the state legislature by the State police. The report I read says The Republican controlled Senate dispatched the state troopers to find the Democrats, but they were unsuccessful. A group of them have opted to stay in a hotel just on the other side of the state line in Illinois. Is that real? Anyway - two excellent documentary images. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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And Frank, I want to tell you something that will make you happy. We visited rich friends in a gated community in Naples Florida. 4 people on their block were early retirees from General Motors. Their pension benefits were capped at $72K. (I know that's a lot, but it's a lot less than they were getting.) And the highest ranked among them has already sold and move back to Michigan. They were all drawing money from 'defered compensation plans', where GM held back some salary to pay them later at a lower tax rate. Guess what. In bankruptcy, all those funds go to the creditors. It puts a 6 figure crimp in their lifestyles... Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 8:56 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Boris, No armed revolts here, but many unhappy people. The perception is that public employees - teachers, police, firemen are retiring at 2/3 or 3/4 of annual salary as paid by the state government. Most people are not covered by such pensions and have seen their retirement 'nest egg' fall by 50% or more in the financial crisis. (Falling home prices vs fixed mortgage loans have wiped out homes as assets.) So the 'have-nots' now resent the union deals and see pensions as something they will pay increased taxes to cover in the future. snip These people (the unionized public employees) perform important functions in our society, and for the most part deserve their salaries and other benefits. They unionized and made their deals when times were good, and one can't blame them for holding on to them as best they can. I don't know about Chicago or elsewhere in the US, but here there has been an ongoing attack on unionized public sector workers for some time. Since government can't simply wipe out contracts already made, they now have things like hiring freezes, hire loads of part time employees (who aren't unionized) or contract out lots of work (which studies show often don't save money in the long run). Services are being trimmed and shut down to the detriment of those who can least afford it. But hey, it saves tax payers' money, so that's okay, right? Funny, but I don't see mass protests about how much CEOs and executives at car companies or banks make - or what their pension plans are worth. I'd bet it's a lot more than what the average cop or teacher makes. How many billions of government dollars went into bailing out those two industries? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Christine, I do like Stan's choices better than yours. (Well they're all your choices aren't they...) Thanks for taking us to the protest! Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Very nice! Though I don't much care for the second - too blah. I think either of the below from your larger set, particularly the second one, is stronger. In fact, I think 7155 is the best overall. What strikes me (pun somewhat unintentional) about 7155 is that it shows the crowd, passion, action, but doesn't blatantly identify the issue(s). Most of the others are good record shots, this one is a strong generic protest shot that will live after the current flapdoodle is resolved one way or another. IMVHO (No, I am not suggesting that the protests are nonsense, but rather that the governor is purposely stirring up a fuss in order to slip something else by while people are looking the other way. What is he going to do next, call out the Pinkertons?) [Pardon the obscure reference to 130-year-old events in America's struggle for balance between worker dignity and corporate greed.] http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chglaborrally/content/_IGP3266_large.html or http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chglaborrally/content/_IGP7155_large.html stan On Feb 26, 2011, at 10:16 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views on anyone here, so I hope no one will be offended. From a pure photographic standpoint, I am rather proud of the two photos I posted to my PAW blog this week. Frankly, I'm amazed I was able to get any pictures taken, since I was constantly alternating between being demonstrator then photographer--and in the end, mostly demonstrator. If anyone is interested, there's a link below the second picture to a more comprehensive gallery of the day's events. Cheers, Christine from Chicago, Local 1600 :-) http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/paw-week-8 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: And Frank, I want to tell you something that will make you happy. We visited rich friends in a gated community in Naples Florida. 4 people on their block were early retirees from General Motors. Their pension benefits were capped at $72K. (I know that's a lot, but it's a lot less than they were getting.) And the highest ranked among them has already sold and move back to Michigan. They were all drawing money from 'defered compensation plans', where GM held back some salary to pay them later at a lower tax rate. Guess what. In bankruptcy, all those funds go to the creditors. It puts a 6 figure crimp in their lifestyles... Regards, Bob S. That doesn't make me particularly happy, Bob. First of all, I'm sure these people worked hard for their money, often working long hours, weekends, with many business trips and lots of pressure. I may not agree that the work they did was for the betterment of all, but they had every right to rely on agreements made with their company and to pattern their life accordingly. The fact that due to GM making bad decisions they lost their pensions or a portion thereof only means that creditors got that money - and I'm sure that banks reaped most of that benefit. I'd rather see the money in the hands of an individual than a huge faceless corporation. I don't think there's anything happy about your story. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks Ann Stan: I'm considering doing a BW conversion on 7155 and then a print--just to see what it would look like--that shot intrigued me as well--though part of me feels it's kind of a messy composition--to my eye anyway--I'm wondering if a Bw conversition might simplfy the frame, perceptually anyway. I agree 3266 is acceptable in terms of composition, but it leaves me flat emotionally and I think the color balance needs to be tweaked a bit and some curves tweaking might be needed as well. I'll know for sure once I print out the contact sheets. Thanks for the great feedback, Ann and Stan! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 10:24 PM Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before looking Stan Halpin wrote: Very nice! Though I don't much care for the second - too blah. I think either of the below from your larger set, particularly the second one, is stronger. In fact, I think 7155 is the best overall. What strikes me (pun somewhat unintentional) about 7155 is that it shows the crowd, passion, action, but doesn't blatantly identify the issue(s). Most of the others are good record shots, this one is a strong generic protest shot that will live after the current flapdoodle is resolved one way or another. IMVHO (No, I am not suggesting that the protests are nonsense, but rather that the governor is purposely stirring up a fuss in order to slip something else by while people are looking the other way. What is he going to do next, call out the Pinkertons?) [Pardon the obscure reference to 130-year-old events in America's struggle for balance between worker dignity and corporate greed.] http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chglaborrally/content/_IGP3266_large.html or http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chglaborrally/content/_IGP7155_large.html stan Christine I really like what Stan picked too... but more the first than the second... though the point about its generic one is well taken. lots of good shots here... but IGP3266 is really handsome graphically. ann On Feb 26, 2011, at 10:16 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views on anyone here, so I hope no one will be offended. From a pure photographic standpoint, I am rather proud of the two photos I posted to my PAW blog this week. Frankly, I'm amazed I was able to get any pictures taken, since I was constantly alternating between being demonstrator then photographer--and in the end, mostly demonstrator. If anyone is interested, there's a link below the second picture to a more comprehensive gallery of the day's events. Cheers, Christine from Chicago, Local 1600 :-) http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/paw-week-8 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Frank. Yep, the emotion that frame conveys is what caught my eye. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 10:28 PM Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before looking On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views on anyone here, so I hope no one will be offended. From a pure photographic standpoint, I am rather proud of the two photos I posted to my PAW blog this week. Frankly, I'm amazed I was able to get any pictures taken, since I was constantly alternating between being demonstrator then photographer--and in the end, mostly demonstrator. If anyone is interested, there's a link below the second picture to a more comprehensive gallery of the day's events. Cheers, Christine from Chicago, Local 1600 :-) http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/paw-week-8 I especially like the first shot. Depicts her emotions and feelings wonderfully. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Chris! This is so interesting that 7155 is preferred among some; it's a shot that nagged at me when going through the frames, so I included it. Glad I did. Thanks Chris! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 2:10 AM Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before looking That's a really good set Christine. Your first choice is a good one, but I think this one is much more powerful than your second choice: http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chglaborrally/content/_IGP7155_large.html Chris On 27 February 2011 03:16, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views on anyone here, so I hope no one will be offended. From a pure photographic standpoint, I am rather proud of the two photos I posted to my PAW blog this week. Frankly, I'm amazed I was able to get any pictures taken, since I was constantly alternating between being demonstrator then photographer--and in the end, mostly demonstrator. If anyone is interested, there's a link below the second picture to a more comprehensive gallery of the day's events. Cheers, Christine from Chicago, Local 1600 :-) http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/paw-week-8 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 27/02/2011 17:28, frank theriault wrote: On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: And Frank, I want to tell you something that will make you happy. We visited rich friends in a gated community in Naples Florida. 4 people on their block were early retirees from General Motors. Their pension benefits were capped at $72K. (I know that's a lot, but it's a lot less than they were getting.) And the highest ranked among them has already sold and move back to Michigan. They were all drawing money from 'defered compensation plans', where GM held back some salary to pay them later at a lower tax rate. Guess what. In bankruptcy, all those funds go to the creditors. It puts a 6 figure crimp in their lifestyles... Regards, Bob S. That doesn't make me particularly happy, Bob. First of all, I'm sure these people worked hard for their money, often working long hours, weekends, with many business trips and lots of pressure. I may not agree that the work they did was for the betterment of all, but they had every right to rely on agreements made with their company and to pattern their life accordingly. The fact that due to GM making bad decisions they lost their pensions or a portion thereof only means that creditors got that money - and I'm sure that banks reaped most of that benefit. I'd rather see the money in the hands of an individual than a huge faceless corporation. I don't think there's anything happy about your story. Agreed. If they had been in a union, it would hopefully not have allowed those funds to be kept in a place available to creditors. Did GM actually go bankrupt? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 2:23 AM Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before looking Despite the fact that you eventually turned demonstrator, you did an excellent job as a photographer, Christine. Thanks, Boris. The my hood on my DA* 50-135mm is not working correctly, so it sometimes falls off the lens. Everytime I started shouting and chanting with the crowd, I'd soon discover the hood had fallen off, and I'd panic, then have to find it. Fortunately, I found it both times it fell off. Time for a new hood, I'd say. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Jack! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 7:37 AM Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before looking Really nicely caught, Christine! Especially like #1. Jack --- On Sat, 2/26/11, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net Subject: paw week 8--please read before looking To: pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 7:16 PM Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views on anyone here, so I hope no one will be offended. From a pure photographic standpoint, I am rather proud of the two photos I posted to my PAW blog this week. Frankly, I'm amazed I was able to get any pictures taken, since I was constantly alternating between being demonstrator then photographer--and in the end, mostly demonstrator. If anyone is interested, there's a link below the second picture to a more comprehensive gallery of the day's events. Cheers, Christine from Chicago, Local 1600 :-) http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/paw-week-8 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Dave! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 8:34 AM Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before looking I like them both, however i really like the first shot. Great detail and emotion here. Dave On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views on anyone here, so I hope no one will be offended. From a pure photographic standpoint, I am rather proud of the two photos I posted to my PAW blog this week. Frankly, I'm amazed I was able to get any pictures taken, since I was constantly alternating between being demonstrator then photographer--and in the end, mostly demonstrator. If anyone is interested, there's a link below the second picture to a more comprehensive gallery of the day's events. Cheers, Christine from Chicago, Local 1600 :-) http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/paw-week-8 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Bob. Stan does make some good points. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 10:26 AM Subject: Re: paw week 8--please read before looking Christine, I do like Stan's choices better than yours. (Well they're all your choices aren't they...) Thanks for taking us to the protest! Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Very nice! Though I don't much care for the second - too blah. I think either of the below from your larger set, particularly the second one, is stronger. In fact, I think 7155 is the best overall. What strikes me (pun somewhat unintentional) about 7155 is that it shows the crowd, passion, action, but doesn't blatantly identify the issue(s). Most of the others are good record shots, this one is a strong generic protest shot that will live after the current flapdoodle is resolved one way or another. IMVHO (No, I am not suggesting that the protests are nonsense, but rather that the governor is purposely stirring up a fuss in order to slip something else by while people are looking the other way. What is he going to do next, call out the Pinkertons?) [Pardon the obscure reference to 130-year-old events in America's struggle for balance between worker dignity and corporate greed.] http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chglaborrally/content/_IGP3266_large.html or http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chglaborrally/content/_IGP7155_large.html stan On Feb 26, 2011, at 10:16 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: I know things are a bit politically charged in the U.S. right now given the labor issue, and I'm sure most of you know by now, I'm pro labor. I just wanted to say I'm not pushing my political views on anyone here, so I hope no one will be offended. From a pure photographic standpoint, I am rather proud of the two photos I posted to my PAW blog this week. Frankly, I'm amazed I was able to get any pictures taken, since I was constantly alternating between being demonstrator then photographer--and in the end, mostly demonstrator. If anyone is interested, there's a link below the second picture to a more comprehensive gallery of the day's events. Cheers, Christine from Chicago, Local 1600 :-) http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/paw-week-8 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You do know that about 2/3 of the highest grossing US companies and 68% of foreign companies working in the US paid virtually no tax last year? The injustice of the situation is radically different to the perception. Many people outside the US are astonished at the way turkeys keep voting for Christmas. the French have the right attitude. Start work at 35, retire at 40 and let the Germans pay for it. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: the French have the right attitude. Start work at 35, retire at 40 and let the Germans pay for it. ...and drink lots of wine... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Mike, GM did go bankrupt. US tax laws structured how the funds were kept. (Yes, we'll allow these tax breaks for your higher paid individuals, but the money will be co-mingled with all other corporate assets.) Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:37 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 27/02/2011 17:28, frank theriault wrote: On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: And Frank, I want to tell you something that will make you happy. We visited rich friends in a gated community in Naples Florida. 4 people on their block were early retirees from General Motors. Their pension benefits were capped at $72K. (I know that's a lot, but it's a lot less than they were getting.) And the highest ranked among them has already sold and move back to Michigan. They were all drawing money from 'defered compensation plans', where GM held back some salary to pay them later at a lower tax rate. Guess what. In bankruptcy, all those funds go to the creditors. It puts a 6 figure crimp in their lifestyles... Regards, Bob S. That doesn't make me particularly happy, Bob. First of all, I'm sure these people worked hard for their money, often working long hours, weekends, with many business trips and lots of pressure. I may not agree that the work they did was for the betterment of all, but they had every right to rely on agreements made with their company and to pattern their life accordingly. The fact that due to GM making bad decisions they lost their pensions or a portion thereof only means that creditors got that money - and I'm sure that banks reaped most of that benefit. I'd rather see the money in the hands of an individual than a huge faceless corporation. I don't think there's anything happy about your story. Agreed. If they had been in a union, it would hopefully not have allowed those funds to be kept in a place available to creditors. Did GM actually go bankrupt? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 27, 2011, at 10:37 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 27/02/2011 17:28, frank theriault wrote: On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: And Frank, I want to tell you something that will make you happy. We visited rich friends in a gated community in Naples Florida. 4 people on their block were early retirees from General Motors. Their pension benefits were capped at $72K. (I know that's a lot, but it's a lot less than they were getting.) And the highest ranked among them has already sold and move back to Michigan. They were all drawing money from 'defered compensation plans', where GM held back some salary to pay them later at a lower tax rate. Guess what. In bankruptcy, all those funds go to the creditors. It puts a 6 figure crimp in their lifestyles... Regards, Bob S. That doesn't make me particularly happy, Bob. First of all, I'm sure these people worked hard for their money, often working long hours, weekends, with many business trips and lots of pressure. I may not agree that the work they did was for the betterment of all, but they had every right to rely on agreements made with their company and to pattern their life accordingly. The fact that due to GM making bad decisions they lost their pensions or a portion thereof only means that creditors got that money - and I'm sure that banks reaped most of that benefit. I'd rather see the money in the hands of an individual than a huge faceless corporation. I don't think there's anything happy about your story. Agreed. If they had been in a union, it would hopefully not have allowed those funds to be kept in a place available to creditors. Did GM actually go bankrupt? -- GM declared bankruptcy and was reorganized as two companies: one held the bad assets, and the new GM held the good assets. It was a necessary step due to way too many dealerships that had become non performers but had franchise agreements that compelled GM to continue to keep them in business. It was also necessary due to onerous obligations to the union. Many of those agreements were made at a time when the Detroit automakers monopolized the U.S. car market. The union would strike, and the automakers would give them whatever they wanted and roll it into the price of the cars. That usually meant taking quality out. Now, many of GM's union obligations have been brought more in line with reality, although they are still more of a burden than other automakers have to contend with. Toyota, Honda and most other foreign automakers build cars in non-union U.S. factories, located in right-to-work states (states with laws barring compulsory union membership). The lack of union commitments on the part of other auto manufacturers made the Detroit automakers union contracts untenable if they were to compete. GM has already paid back a substantial amount of its government loans, and the government has been selling off its GM stock at a profit. The same is happening at Chrysler, although at a slower pace. The industry bailout was well planned and well executed. It saved a major U.S. industry and an entire region, and in the end, it will cost the taxpayers nothing. Paul PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: snip It was also necessary due to onerous obligations to the union. Heaven forbid we should pay workers a fair wage... Many of those agreements were made at a time when the Detroit automakers monopolized the U.S. car market. The union would strike, and the automakers would give them whatever they wanted and roll it into the price of the cars. That usually meant taking quality out. Hey, don't blame the unions for the decision of the automakers to make lousy cars. They ~could~ have said, We'll just keep making the best cars we can, whatever the price may be (or even better, at a reduced profit), because the consumer doesn't mind spending a fair price for a quality product. But no, they thought more about short term gain than long-term customer satisfaction. The consumers (not such a stupid lot after all) voted with their feet. They bought foreign quality, even well after the price gap between domestic and foreign was minimal to nil. The other thing you're not factoring into the equation is how Detroit handled the rising price of fuel in the 70's along with government enforced safety and pollution standards. (which standards wouldn't have been necessary if Detroit had done the right thing all along and made safe, clean cars). Detroit's downfall began when they stopped doing what they did best (front-engined rear-wheel-drive vehicles) and tried to out-Japanese the Japanese with small cars that were simply pieces of crap. Can you say Firenza? Those were management decisions, not union decisions. The unions didn't kill Detroit (as we once knew it), Detroit did. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
