Re: OT I'm back
At first Liz did not want to go, but she can't stop talking about it now. :-) I'll post a few more soon. Dave On 4/15/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad I was able to share the tip you were able to experience the place. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT I'm back Hey all. Hope everyone was good. Looks like abit of mail to sift through. Arrived back from Vegas. LATE last night. The four of us had a great time. Liz even liked the Valley of Fire photo tour, i had to talk her into going on. That was my hi lite of the trip. Thanks again Ken for the tip. I took the polorizer with me and used it at first. I compensated for the loss of light, but the pictures looked washed out in the monitor, so i only used it occasionally. I've just looked quickly at my downloads, and i should have stayed with the filter and ignored the histo. I tried to get it over to the right for more high lites, but it seems i did not need to. I did shoot DNG so i should be able to adjust the brightness etc. Great tour, only 4 of us, so the guide let us spend extra time at places and made a stop or to that might not normally be made because we were doing well for return time. It was nice ot hear all that silence for a few hours. Got a few good rock art shots as well. Went to see the Wynn, Venetian Hotels. Back to the Mirage for the Secret Garden. Thursday night was going to be spent downtown, but they had very high winds which brought the temp down, and we all wimped out. Daughter and James did everything they wanted and then some. They did they trail ride, not far from our tour, and James wanted to try the gun range and the fully auto weapons. Got that on video. Their trip to LA went well, but they have convertible face now.LOL I'll work on some shots for Paws in a bit. Right now its off to a show. Vacation is now OVER .LOL Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT I'm back
Glad I was able to share the tip you were able to experience the place. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT I'm back Hey all. Hope everyone was good. Looks like abit of mail to sift through. Arrived back from Vegas. LATE last night. The four of us had a great time. Liz even liked the Valley of Fire photo tour, i had to talk her into going on. That was my hi lite of the trip. Thanks again Ken for the tip. I took the polorizer with me and used it at first. I compensated for the loss of light, but the pictures looked washed out in the monitor, so i only used it occasionally. I've just looked quickly at my downloads, and i should have stayed with the filter and ignored the histo. I tried to get it over to the right for more high lites, but it seems i did not need to. I did shoot DNG so i should be able to adjust the brightness etc. Great tour, only 4 of us, so the guide let us spend extra time at places and made a stop or to that might not normally be made because we were doing well for return time. It was nice ot hear all that silence for a few hours. Got a few good rock art shots as well. Went to see the Wynn, Venetian Hotels. Back to the Mirage for the Secret Garden. Thursday night was going to be spent downtown, but they had very high winds which brought the temp down, and we all wimped out. Daughter and James did everything they wanted and then some. They did they trail ride, not far from our tour, and James wanted to try the gun range and the fully auto weapons. Got that on video. Their trip to LA went well, but they have convertible face now.LOL I'll work on some shots for Paws in a bit. Right now its off to a show. Vacation is now OVER .LOL Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT I'm back
Hey all. Hope everyone was good. Looks like abit of mail to sift through. Arrived back from Vegas. LATE last night. The four of us had a great time. Liz even liked the Valley of Fire photo tour, i had to talk her into going on. That was my hi lite of the trip. Thanks again Ken for the tip. I took the polorizer with me and used it at first. I compensated for the loss of light, but the pictures looked washed out in the monitor, so i only used it occasionally. I've just looked quickly at my downloads, and i should have stayed with the filter and ignored the histo. I tried to get it over to the right for more high lites, but it seems i did not need to. I did shoot DNG so i should be able to adjust the brightness etc. Great tour, only 4 of us, so the guide let us spend extra time at places and made a stop or to that might not normally be made because we were doing well for return time. It was nice ot hear all that silence for a few hours. Got a few good rock art shots as well. Went to see the Wynn, Venetian Hotels. Back to the Mirage for the Secret Garden. Thursday night was going to be spent downtown, but they had very high winds which brought the temp down, and we all wimped out. Daughter and James did everything they wanted and then some. They did they trail ride, not far from our tour, and James wanted to try the gun range and the fully auto weapons. Got that on video. Their trip to LA went well, but they have convertible face now.LOL I'll work on some shots for Paws in a bit. Right now its off to a show. Vacation is now OVER .LOL Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: I'm back
Marnie - so glad to see you back - your computer woes made the problems I had setting up and the few I still have with not understanding XP stuff seem minor, indeed. I used to think I was computer literate - it appears to ahve been an illusion :) I've been away from list too but didn't unsub - have been meaning just to say hello off list to you but I see my attempts to do that would have been futile - hehe ann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Computer woes kept me away for about 3-31/2 weeks. Think it was the latter. Some may remember I had just got a new computer, a AMD 64X2. My old desktop still worked, but I was getting blue error screens (Windows) more and more. Plus it was only a Pentium III, so it was slow and I was pushing the memory and that was a problem too. So I figured time for an upgrade snip snip I should have made this long story brief. Except, frankly, I couldn't quite believe it -- what kept not working or going wrong -- as it happened. And if I wasn't pretty darn computer literate, what would I have done? Geeze. I pity the poor novices. Sometimes I really hate computers. When I don't love them. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: I'm back
In a message dated 1/17/2007 8:56:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And, she's an IT professional grin. = But not when it comes to networks. :-) Luckily I have an Internet friend fully conversant with that. Although he does Linux not Windows, but he still knew a lot. Hi Marnie, welcome back. While you were working on your new computer, I bought an old radio and have been working on it. Only I'm doing it for fun, strange how having to get it working right now is stressful, and just tinkering is relaxing, isn't it? -graywolf Yes, isn't it? ;-) Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: I'm back
In a message dated 1/18/2007 6:38:16 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie - so glad to see you back - your computer woes made the problems I had setting up and the few I still have with not understanding XP stuff seem minor, indeed. I used to think I was computer literate - it appears to ahve been an illusion :) I've been away from list too but didn't unsub - have been meaning just to say hello off list to you but I see my attempts to do that would have been futile - hehe ann === Yup. Hehehe. Re off list. Well, still busy with stuff, but will post some comments on PESOs in a day or two. Sorry if I missed any of yours. One of the things with not being on for a long time, AOL starts automatically emptying out my email box. So it had gotten down to 20 unread messages. It had started at 1,000 unread messages. OTOH, maybe that's not a bad thing, as AOL is ruthless, something I can't be. But I know I definitely missed some PESOs I would rather of not missed. Glad you are still here, us women gotta stick together. Marnie ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: I'm back
Computer woes kept me away for about 3-31/2 weeks. Think it was the latter. Some may remember I had just got a new computer, a AMD 64X2. My old desktop still worked, but I was getting blue error screens (Windows) more and more. Plus it was only a Pentium III, so it was slow and I was pushing the memory and that was a problem too. So I figured time for an upgrade. The new computer is fine, except for not having enough drive bays. I posted about two days worth of messages to the list before I had problems. I decided to network my old desktop with my new so I could copy files easier, not have to format and copy stuff to about 50 CDs. Uh. I think that took two weeks all by itself. First I tried just Ethernet cables -- a friend had told me that would work. Nope. Tried a crossover cable. Nope. Got a USB cable with software that worked. Except the USB cable while file copying would time out now and then. I also have an old LaserJet that needed a parallel port which the new machine doesn't have. A guy at Fry's convinced me I needed a print server thingee, and that didn't work either. So I went back to my Belkin router. When I got my router about a year and a half ago or more, I bought it because it could also be used just as a gateway, since I did not have broadband. Plugged everything in that and, bingo, it worked. Could also network in the laptop, wireless to the router. I had stopped using it wireless between old desktop and laptop because an upstairs neighbor complained that it interfered with his radio. Took back the print server, and finally found a simple parallel to USB cable. The simple solution to make the LaserJet work. The other had been overkill. But once the home network worked, my modem no longer did. Trying to sign onto AOL it seemed it kept trying to go through my network, although I kept trying to configure it just for phone modem. So I gave up and ordered a cable modem and service from Comcast. Got the self install kit, finally. Tried to set it up. Didn't work. Nothing in their literature/box said that you have to get the service turned on first. In fact it implied you could set up an account just using their software, at least if you are an existing Comcast TV customer. Well, finally called them. Yup, you have to call them to set up service first. Got all that done. Still didn't work. Called back a couple of times, finally they sent out a technician. There were filters on the cable nodes that he had to remove. He said they are supposed to that every time, send a technician out when some starts service, as this whole area has filters. Duh. While all this was going on, my old desktop stopped booting up. Have finally fixed that. Seems maybe I have a bad outlet that tripped the surge suppressor and it corrupted the BIOS boot up. Pressing F1 and redoing BIOS setup fixed that. But until I got around to it, I was a bit worried my board had fried. Still worried about the outlet. Well, everything works now. All computers -- new desktop, old desktop, and laptop are home networked -- cable modem is fast, fast, and now I can get AOL free. I should have made this long story brief. Except, frankly, I couldn't quite believe it -- what kept not working or going wrong -- as it happened. And if I wasn't pretty darn computer literate, what would I have done? Geeze. I pity the poor novices. Sometimes I really hate computers. When I don't love them. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: I'm back
Hi Marn, On 17/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: And if I wasn't pretty darn computer literate, what would I have done? Bought a Mac? --- JUST KIDDING --- ;-))) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: I'm back
On Jan 17, 2007, at 8:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Computer woes kept me away for about 3-31/2 weeks. Think it was the latter. ... Welcome back, Marnie. That's a curious fractional expression there. Shoulda boughta ... well, you know. ];-) No matter, it's good to hear from you again. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: I'm back
Wow, I surprised you could even remember all the different problems you had. Welcome back. -- Bruce Wednesday, January 17, 2007, 8:24:17 AM, you wrote: Eac Computer woes kept me away for about 3-31/2 weeks. Think it was the latter. Eac Some may remember I had just got a new computer, a AMD 64X2. My old desktop Eac still worked, but I was getting blue error screens (Windows) more and more. Eac Plus it was only a Pentium III, so it was slow and I was pushing the memory Eac and that was a problem too. So I figured time for an upgrade. Eac The new computer is fine, except for not having enough drive bays. I posted Eac about two days worth of messages to the list before I had problems. I decided Eac to network my old desktop with my new so I could copy files easier, not have Eac to format and copy stuff to about 50 CDs. Eac Uh. I think that took two weeks all by itself. First I tried just Ethernet Eac cables -- a friend had told me that would work. Nope. Tried a crossover cable. Eac Nope. Got a USB cable with software that worked. Except the USB cable while Eac file copying would time out now and then. Eac I also have an old LaserJet that needed a parallel port which the new Eac machine doesn't have. A guy at Fry's convinced me I needed a print server thingee, Eac and that didn't work either. Eac So I went back to my Belkin router. When I got my router about a year and a Eac half ago or more, I bought it because it could also be used just as a Eac gateway, since I did not have broadband. Plugged Eac everything in that and, bingo, it Eac worked. Could also network in the laptop, wireless to the router. I had Eac stopped using it wireless between old desktop and laptop because an upstairs Eac neighbor complained that it interfered with his radio. Eac Took back the print server, and finally found a simple parallel to USB Eac cable. The simple solution to make the LaserJet work. The other had been overkill. Eac But once the home network worked, my modem no longer did. Trying to sign Eac onto AOL it seemed it kept trying to go through my network, although I kept Eac trying to configure it just for phone modem. Eac So I gave up and ordered a cable modem and service from Comcast. Got the Eac self install kit, finally. Tried to set it up. Didn't work. Nothing in their Eac literature/box said that you have to get the service turned on first. In fact it Eac implied you could set up an account just using their software, at least if Eac you are an existing Comcast TV customer. Well, finally called them. Yup, you Eac have to call them to set up service first. Got all that done. Still didn't Eac work. Called back a couple of times, finally they sent out a technician. There Eac were filters on the cable nodes that he had to remove. He said they are Eac supposed to that every time, send a technician out when some starts service, as Eac this whole area has filters. Duh. Eac While all this was going on, my old desktop stopped booting up. Have finally Eac fixed that. Seems maybe I have a bad outlet that tripped the surge Eac suppressor and it corrupted the BIOS boot up. Pressing F1 Eac and redoing BIOS setup fixed Eac that. But until I got around to it, I was a bit worried my board had fried. Eac Still worried about the outlet. Eac Well, everything works now. All computers -- new desktop, old desktop, and Eac laptop are home networked -- cable modem is fast, fast, and now I can get AOL Eac free. Eac I should have made this long story brief. Except, frankly, I couldn't quite Eac believe it -- what kept not working or going wrong -- as it happened. Eac And if I wasn't pretty darn computer literate, what would I have done? Eac Geeze. I pity the poor novices. Eac Sometimes I really hate computers. Eac When I don't love them. Eac Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: I'm back
In a message dated 1/17/2007 9:45:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wow, I surprised you could even remember all the different problems you had. Welcome back. -- Bruce === Hehehehe. Actually, not sure I got them all, but close enough. Thanks for the welcome back, folks. Marnie the MaclessNyah, I am happy with Windows. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: I'm back
You were gone?:-P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Computer woes kept me away for about 3-31/2 weeks. Think it was the latter. Some may remember I had just got a new computer, a AMD 64X2. My old desktop still worked, but I was getting blue error screens (Windows) more and more. Plus it was only a Pentium III, so it was slow and I was pushing the memory and that was a problem too. So I figured time for an upgrade. The new computer is fine, except for not having enough drive bays. I posted about two days worth of messages to the list before I had problems. I decided to network my old desktop with my new so I could copy files easier, not have to format and copy stuff to about 50 CDs. Uh. I think that took two weeks all by itself. First I tried just Ethernet cables -- a friend had told me that would work. Nope. Tried a crossover cable. Nope. Got a USB cable with software that worked. Except the USB cable while file copying would time out now and then. I also have an old LaserJet that needed a parallel port which the new machine doesn't have. A guy at Fry's convinced me I needed a print server thingee, and that didn't work either. So I went back to my Belkin router. When I got my router about a year and a half ago or more, I bought it because it could also be used just as a gateway, since I did not have broadband. Plugged everything in that and, bingo, it worked. Could also network in the laptop, wireless to the router. I had stopped using it wireless between old desktop and laptop because an upstairs neighbor complained that it interfered with his radio. Took back the print server, and finally found a simple parallel to USB cable. The simple solution to make the LaserJet work. The other had been overkill. But once the home network worked, my modem no longer did. Trying to sign onto AOL it seemed it kept trying to go through my network, although I kept trying to configure it just for phone modem. So I gave up and ordered a cable modem and service from Comcast. Got the self install kit, finally. Tried to set it up. Didn't work. Nothing in their literature/box said that you have to get the service turned on first. In fact it implied you could set up an account just using their software, at least if you are an existing Comcast TV customer. Well, finally called them. Yup, you have to call them to set up service first. Got all that done. Still didn't work. Called back a couple of times, finally they sent out a technician. There were filters on the cable nodes that he had to remove. He said they are supposed to that every time, send a technician out when some starts service, as this whole area has filters. Duh. While all this was going on, my old desktop stopped booting up. Have finally fixed that. Seems maybe I have a bad outlet that tripped the surge suppressor and it corrupted the BIOS boot up. Pressing F1 and redoing BIOS setup fixed that. But until I got around to it, I was a bit worried my board had fried. Still worried about the outlet. Well, everything works now. All computers -- new desktop, old desktop, and laptop are home networked -- cable modem is fast, fast, and now I can get AOL free. I should have made this long story brief. Except, frankly, I couldn't quite believe it -- what kept not working or going wrong -- as it happened. And if I wasn't pretty darn computer literate, what would I have done? Geeze. I pity the poor novices. Sometimes I really hate computers. When I don't love them. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: I'm back
On 17/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Marnie the Macless That does have a certain ring to it :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: I'm back
And, she's an IT professional grin. Hi Marnie, welcome back. While you were working on your new computer, I bought an old radio and have been working on it. Only I'm doing it for fun, strange how having to get it working right now is stressful, and just tinkering is relaxing, isn't it? -graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Computer woes kept me away for about 3-31/2 weeks. Think it was the latter. Some may remember I had just got a new computer, a AMD 64X2. My old desktop still worked, but I was getting blue error screens (Windows) more and more. Plus it was only a Pentium III, so it was slow and I was pushing the memory and that was a problem too. So I figured time for an upgrade. The new computer is fine, except for not having enough drive bays. I posted about two days worth of messages to the list before I had problems. I decided to network my old desktop with my new so I could copy files easier, not have to format and copy stuff to about 50 CDs. Uh. I think that took two weeks all by itself. First I tried just Ethernet cables -- a friend had told me that would work. Nope. Tried a crossover cable. Nope. Got a USB cable with software that worked. Except the USB cable while file copying would time out now and then. I also have an old LaserJet that needed a parallel port which the new machine doesn't have. A guy at Fry's convinced me I needed a print server thingee, and that didn't work either. So I went back to my Belkin router. When I got my router about a year and a half ago or more, I bought it because it could also be used just as a gateway, since I did not have broadband. Plugged everything in that and, bingo, it worked. Could also network in the laptop, wireless to the router. I had stopped using it wireless between old desktop and laptop because an upstairs neighbor complained that it interfered with his radio. Took back the print server, and finally found a simple parallel to USB cable. The simple solution to make the LaserJet work. The other had been overkill. But once the home network worked, my modem no longer did. Trying to sign onto AOL it seemed it kept trying to go through my network, although I kept trying to configure it just for phone modem. So I gave up and ordered a cable modem and service from Comcast. Got the self install kit, finally. Tried to set it up. Didn't work. Nothing in their literature/box said that you have to get the service turned on first. In fact it implied you could set up an account just using their software, at least if you are an existing Comcast TV customer. Well, finally called them. Yup, you have to call them to set up service first. Got all that done. Still didn't work. Called back a couple of times, finally they sent out a technician. There were filters on the cable nodes that he had to remove. He said they are supposed to that every time, send a technician out when some starts service, as this whole area has filters. Duh. While all this was going on, my old desktop stopped booting up. Have finally fixed that. Seems maybe I have a bad outlet that tripped the surge suppressor and it corrupted the BIOS boot up. Pressing F1 and redoing BIOS setup fixed that. But until I got around to it, I was a bit worried my board had fried. Still worried about the outlet. Well, everything works now. All computers -- new desktop, old desktop, and laptop are home networked -- cable modem is fast, fast, and now I can get AOL free. I should have made this long story brief. Except, frankly, I couldn't quite believe it -- what kept not working or going wrong -- as it happened. And if I wasn't pretty darn computer literate, what would I have done? Geeze. I pity the poor novices. Sometimes I really hate computers. When I don't love them. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: I'm back
Welcome. As it turns out you picked a good time to be away :-) Dave On 11/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm back, after a 2 week trip to the SW -- Arizona and New Mexico. Did a loop, Phoenix to Tucson to Las Cruces to Albuquerque to Santa Fe to Taos to Flagstaff then on home to California Bay Area. So, no, no Grand Canyon, no Bandolier, no Monument Valley. This was a fact finding trip, not a photography trip, but I did start the trip with some vacation, about two days in Yosemite. And I also grabbed a few other photos along the way. Will post them as time goes along. This was the fall color time of year and that was nice. Reactions overall? I *love* California! Hehehehehe. Especially Northern California. But it's very expensive, so got to do some major figuring on how to stay here somewhere, somehow. Although Albuquerque wasn't bad at all. Not bad at all. Anyway, I'm back. It's good not to be staying at a new motel each night. That gets old. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: I'm back
In a message dated 11/15/2006 5:23:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Welcome. As it turns out you picked a good time to be away :-) Dave === Not being overly stupid, I won't ask. Marnie aka Doe Hehehehehe. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: I'm back
I'm back, after a 2 week trip to the SW -- Arizona and New Mexico. Did a loop, Phoenix to Tucson to Las Cruces to Albuquerque to Santa Fe to Taos to Flagstaff then on home to California Bay Area. So, no, no Grand Canyon, no Bandolier, no Monument Valley. This was a fact finding trip, not a photography trip, but I did start the trip with some vacation, about two days in Yosemite. And I also grabbed a few other photos along the way. Will post them as time goes along. This was the fall color time of year and that was nice. Reactions overall? I *love* California! Hehehehehe. Especially Northern California. But it's very expensive, so got to do some major figuring on how to stay here somewhere, somehow. Although Albuquerque wasn't bad at all. Not bad at all. Anyway, I'm back. It's good not to be staying at a new motel each night. That gets old. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: I'm back, Everyone Happy?, PS Class Questions
I'm back from trip. Had fun, will share some photos later. Is everyone happy with the K10D? Looks pretty good to me, and I didn't even know it was going to have two new sensitivity settings -- which I like. Okay, I started a Photoshop class last night. Taught by our local civic arts. Arrived back in time for the class just as I returned from trip. Not what I hoped for since they are using Elements 2 and PS 6. However, I already learned two new things (new to me) so I will stick with it. I will learn something despite the older software. But when cameras were discussed the first night the teacher only mentioned: Canon, Nikon, and Olympus -- basically saying they are the only serious players. I was not Pentaxian enough to debate him, or not Pentaxian again enough to debate him. :-) Thinking about taking in a specification sheet for the K10D before the class is over, and maybe sales numbers for the DLs and DSs. Isn't Pentax outselling Olympus? Or is it? Anyone have any other suggestions of what to take in to get this guy better informed? He didn't know about Elements 5 with curves, so I told him about that. Obviously he's a bit behind, but since he teaches classes to a fair number of people over the course of a year maybe he should be upgraded. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: OT: I'm back, Everyone Happy?, PS Class Questions
Take a class in the current v of PS - the teacher is an idiot. The diff tween 6 and CS or CS2 is SUBSTANTIAL! why learn something that's not going to be very valuable or useful. Welcome back. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Date: 9/19/2006 10:37:39 AM Subject: OT: I'm back, Everyone Happy?, PS Class Questions I'm back from trip. Had fun, will share some photos later. Is everyone happy with the K10D? Looks pretty good to me, and I didn't even know it was going to have two new sensitivity settings -- which I like. Okay, I started a Photoshop class last night. Taught by our local civic arts. Arrived back in time for the class just as I returned from trip. Not what I hoped for since they are using Elements 2 and PS 6. However, I already learned two new things (new to me) so I will stick with it. I will learn something despite the older software. But when cameras were discussed the first night the teacher only mentioned: Canon, Nikon, and Olympus -- basically saying they are the only serious players. I was not Pentaxian enough to debate him, or not Pentaxian again enough to debate him. :-) Thinking about taking in a specification sheet for the K10D before the class is over, and maybe sales numbers for the DLs and DSs. Isn't Pentax outselling Olympus? Or is it? Anyone have any other suggestions of what to take in to get this guy better informed? He didn't know about Elements 5 with curves, so I told him about that. Obviously he's a bit behind, but since he teaches classes to a fair number of people over the course of a year maybe he should be upgraded. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: I'm back, Everyone Happy?, PS Class Questions
I agree with Shel. If you're paying for this class you could probably do with a more current version of PS - unless you're totally new to PS. Also if the teacher is a graphic artist/designer not a photographer, you'll get a totally different view of PS. I say this from experience after attending a couple of PS classes being taught by a non photographer. I don't think you need to do anything to inform your instructor about Pentax except show him some images taken with a Pentax. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT: I'm back, Everyone Happy?, PS Class Questions Take a class in the current v of PS - the teacher is an idiot. The diff tween 6 and CS or CS2 is SUBSTANTIAL! why learn something that's not going to be very valuable or useful. Welcome back. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Date: 9/19/2006 10:37:39 AM Subject: OT: I'm back, Everyone Happy?, PS Class Questions I'm back from trip. Had fun, will share some photos later. Is everyone happy with the K10D? Looks pretty good to me, and I didn't even know it was going to have two new sensitivity settings -- which I like. Okay, I started a Photoshop class last night. Taught by our local civic arts. Arrived back in time for the class just as I returned from trip. Not what I hoped for since they are using Elements 2 and PS 6. However, I already learned two new things (new to me) so I will stick with it. I will learn something despite the older software. But when cameras were discussed the first night the teacher only mentioned: Canon, Nikon, and Olympus -- basically saying they are the only serious players. I was not Pentaxian enough to debate him, or not Pentaxian again enough to debate him. :-) Thinking about taking in a specification sheet for the K10D before the class is over, and maybe sales numbers for the DLs and DSs. Isn't Pentax outselling Olympus? Or is it? Anyone have any other suggestions of what to take in to get this guy better informed? He didn't know about Elements 5 with curves, so I told him about that. Obviously he's a bit behind, but since he teaches classes to a fair number of people over the course of a year maybe he should be upgraded. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: I'm back, Everyone Happy?, PS Class Questions
In a message dated 9/19/2006 10:54:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Take a class in the current v of PS - the teacher is an idiot. The diff tween 6 and CS or CS2 is SUBSTANTIAL! why learn something that's not going to be very valuable or useful. Welcome back. Shel === Well, it isn't him. It's the computers they have, that the city can afford. They are running Windows NT, so they don't support newer versions of software. Supposedly they will upgrade someday to new computers and XP, but he did not expect it soon. It's easy to say he's an idiot, but the only classes I found with current software are through the local camera store and they don't go into very much depth -- only four weeks and about what I know already. Shel, they guy must reach about 50 people a year in his classes, so it wouldn't hurt to get him better informed about Pentax regardless of what you or I or anyone else thinks of him. Thanks, it was a good trip. Marnie -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: I'm back, Everyone Happy?, PS Class Questions
In a message dated 9/19/2006 11:26:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think you need to do anything to inform your instructor about Pentax except show him some images taken with a Pentax. Kenneth Waller === No, he's a photographer. Had a portfolio of some of his work. Not bad, not great, but not bad and some experimental stuff. Good idea re the last. Marnie aka Doe Except I don't have a Pentax camera --- yet. :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: I'm back, Everyone Happy?, PS Class Questions
On Sep 19, 2006, at 10:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm back from trip. Had fun, will share some photos later. Glad you had a good trip, welcome back! Is everyone happy with the K10D? Looks pretty good to me, and I didn't even know it was going to have two new sensitivity settings -- which I like. I expect to be. ;-) Okay, I started a Photoshop class last night. Taught by our local civic arts. Arrived back in time for the class just as I returned from trip. Not what I hoped for since they are using Elements 2 and PS 6. However, I already learned two new things (new to me) so I will stick with it. I will learn something despite the older software. But when cameras were discussed the first night the teacher only mentioned: Canon, Nikon, and Olympus -- basically saying they are the only serious players. I was not Pentaxian enough to debate him, or not Pentaxian again enough to debate him. :-) Thinking about taking in a specification sheet for the K10D before the class is over, and maybe sales numbers for the DLs and DSs. Isn't Pentax outselling Olympus? Or is it? Anyone have any other suggestions of what to take in to get this guy better informed? He didn't know about Elements 5 with curves, so I told him about that. Obviously he's a bit behind, but since he teaches classes to a fair number of people over the course of a year maybe he should be upgraded. I wouldn't want to judge an instructor without knowing more about his background and reviewing his class. Using software that is somewhat behind the times, or lower spec than you're using, you have to evaluate what is being articulated and apply the concepts to your current tool suite. Regards his comments about cameras, well, I'm pretty tired of trying to justify Pentax or Sony or Panasonic .. .or anything else ... even to photographers who should know better. So he has a prejudice to prefer Canon, Nikon and Olympus: so do thousands of other photographers, although Olympus less so than the other two. A Photoshop class should be camera agnostic. From the standpoint of image processing, what camera made a particular image file, RAW or JPEG, is almost completely irrelevant presuming that Photoshop's RAW conversion is applicable. Given the level of the software being used, you're not going to get into RAW processing with Camera Raw at all, which is a darn shame as that is where most of the capabilities of digital cameras are, in RAW format capture. You'll be talking entirely RGB level editing capabilities, and almost entirely 8bit work. There's a lot to be had there, if the instructor is any good. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: I'm back, Everyone Happy?, PS Class Questions
In a message dated 9/19/2006 11:54:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A Photoshop class should be camera agnostic. From the standpoint of image processing, what camera made a particular image file, RAW or JPEG, is almost completely irrelevant presuming that Photoshop's RAW conversion is applicable. Given the level of the software being used, you're not going to get into RAW processing with Camera Raw at all, which is a darn shame as that is where most of the capabilities of digital cameras are, in RAW format capture. You'll be talking entirely RGB level editing capabilities, and almost entirely 8bit work. There's a lot to be had there, if the instructor is any good. Godfrey Yeah, I know that is why I was disappointed, not using RAW conversion in CS (which I have) or CS2. I really did want that. He taught art and photography classes in colleges for something like 20 years. Basically retired now, I guess, and teaching classes at the local civic arts (adult ed). They get some pretty decent teachers here. I picked up a few things already, but I plan to go through some books afterwards, like Frasier's. I need sort of hands on to learn better, just reading and doing my own exercises doesn't do it for me. Maybe a book followup will. Hopefully. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: I'm back, Everyone Happy?, PS Class Questions
Except I don't have a Pentax camera --- yet. :-) That can change quick around here ! LOL Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: I'm back, Everyone Happy?, PS Class Questions In a message dated 9/19/2006 11:26:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think you need to do anything to inform your instructor about Pentax except show him some images taken with a Pentax. Kenneth Waller === No, he's a photographer. Had a portfolio of some of his work. Not bad, not great, but not bad and some experimental stuff. Good idea re the last. Marnie aka Doe Except I don't have a Pentax camera --- yet. :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: I'm back, Everyone Happy?, PS Class Questions
Kenneth Waller wrote: Except I don't have a Pentax camera --- yet. :-) That can change quick around here ! LOL Kenneth Waller Indeed it can ;-) -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: I'm back, Everyone Happy?, PS Class Questions
I agree that the difference between PS v6.0 CS2 is substantial, but the basics haven't changed. Curves, Levels, layers, layer masking, adjustment layers, USM (the major tools for image processing as far as I'm concerned), are the same. Once you have a firm grounding using those tools, then you can start in on the extras offered in CS CS2. Have fun Marnie. Cheers, Dave On 9/20/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a class in the current v of PS - the teacher is an idiot. The diff tween 6 and CS or CS2 is SUBSTANTIAL! why learn something that's not going to be very valuable or useful. Welcome back. Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT - I'm back Monterey Trip
I'll try to be brief. Or as brief as I can be. :-) Mom had a colostomy operation a week ago. She's been home about two days. Seems to be doing okay. But the big issue will be getting her back on her feet and walking. She hasn't walked since she went into the hospital. Nothing really wrong with her legs and feet, but the floors there were slick and she was/is weak. I am afraid of her losing her mind/body connection with her feet. But I think I can get her up again. I am hiring a caregiver to help me too. She went in last Friday, had the operation Saturday night and was supposed to be there for a week. Since she was gone and I didn't have the expense of paying someone to take care of her, I thought, sheesh, I should take advantage of this and go somewhere. I okayed it with her doctor. I went last Wed - Thurs. I went to Monterey for 2 1/2 days and 2 nights. Saw the 17-mile drive (and took shots), Carmel (didn't), scenic drive in Carmel (didn't), the Monterey Aquarium (did), and Monterey Fisherman's Wharf (did). The weather was nice both days, just clouding up at night the last day. It was sort of whirlwind, and I was a bit pushed and tired, but I am glad I got away. Also while searching for one particular gallery in Carmel to look at one particular painter's paintings (which I did finally see), I came across a photographic gallery. With 8-9 original (resales, not reprints) Ansel Adams!!! A few other famous photographers too. It was neat to be able to get up and eyeball them closely. Impressive. One was an Indian pueblo type village with the moon over it. It was selling for $55,000. One of the smaller cheaper ones was $12,000. I should have written the titles down, but didn't. Sooner or later I may find them all, I think I've seen reproductions in books of some of them. Too bad he couldn't make that much during his lifetime, huh? And I had a nice geeky photo hobbyist type talk with the clerk in the gallery. I also saw George Lepp's California Poppy Show at the Monterey Natural History Museum. I didn't know it was going to be there, I just discovered it was there by reading a little tourist magazine they hand out in all the hotels and shops there. I had seen some of his poppy pictures before in a digital slideshow when I went to a Lepp weekend about a year ago. But it was nice to see some prints in person. (Still wish I knew where he found all those fields of poppies in CA, he told me, but I never found them. Maybe I will try again.) All in all, a satisfying trip. Although I was still pretty tired during it. And a quite photographic trip. :-) I hadn't planned to come back to PDML for about another month. Not until my programming project is finished. But Mom's operation has derailed me. I think I'll mainly be busy with her this week. So I'll hang around for a week or so until she is better. Then unsubscribe again to get back to my programming project undistracted. I simply don't lurk well. :-) Hi guys. Missed you. Marnie aka Doe
Re: OT - I'm back Monterey Trip
On 23/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Hi guys. Missed you. Hi Marn, Hope things work out for you and your mum. best wishes Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: OT - I'm back Monterey Trip
Welcome back, Marnie. The aging ailing parent thing is tough. Rick --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll try to be brief. Or as brief as I can be. :-) Mom had a colostomy operation a week ago. She's been home about two days. Seems to be doing okay. But the big issue will be getting her back on her feet and walking. She hasn't walked since she went into the hospital. Nothing really wrong with her legs and feet, but the floors there were slick and she was/is weak. I am afraid of her losing her mind/body connection with her feet. But I think I can get her up again. I am hiring a caregiver to help me too. She went in last Friday, had the operation Saturday night and was supposed to be there for a week. Since she was gone and I didn't have the expense of paying someone to take care of her, I thought, sheesh, I should take advantage of this and go somewhere. I okayed it with her doctor. I went last Wed - Thurs. I went to Monterey for 2 1/2 days and 2 nights. Saw the 17-mile drive (and took shots), Carmel (didn't), scenic drive in Carmel (didn't), the Monterey Aquarium (did), and Monterey Fisherman's Wharf (did). The weather was nice both days, just clouding up at night the last day. It was sort of whirlwind, and I was a bit pushed and tired, but I am glad I got away. Also while searching for one particular gallery in Carmel to look at one particular painter's paintings (which I did finally see), I came across a photographic gallery. With 8-9 original (resales, not reprints) Ansel Adams!!! A few other famous photographers too. It was neat to be able to get up and eyeball them closely. Impressive. One was an Indian pueblo type village with the moon over it. It was selling for $55,000. One of the smaller cheaper ones was $12,000. I should have written the titles down, but didn't. Sooner or later I may find them all, I think I've seen reproductions in books of some of them. Too bad he couldn't make that much during his lifetime, huh? And I had a nice geeky photo hobbyist type talk with the clerk in the gallery. I also saw George Lepp's California Poppy Show at the Monterey Natural History Museum. I didn't know it was going to be there, I just discovered it was there by reading a little tourist magazine they hand out in all the hotels and shops there. I had seen some of his poppy pictures before in a digital slideshow when I went to a Lepp weekend about a year ago. But it was nice to see some prints in person. (Still wish I knew where he found all those fields of poppies in CA, he told me, but I never found them. Maybe I will try again.) All in all, a satisfying trip. Although I was still pretty tired during it. And a quite photographic trip. :-) I hadn't planned to come back to PDML for about another month. Not until my programming project is finished. But Mom's operation has derailed me. I think I'll mainly be busy with her this week. So I'll hang around for a week or so until she is better. Then unsubscribe again to get back to my programming project undistracted. I simply don't lurk well. :-) Hi guys. Missed you. Marnie aka Doe http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT - I'm back Monterey Trip
Good to see you back, Marnie. Sorry to hear about your mother's problems. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll try to be brief. Or as brief as I can be. :-)
Re: OT - I'm back Monterey Trip
Welcome back. Good to hear you had some time for yourself. You're a saint for taking such good care of your mom. It's something many of us have to do at a time when we had hoped to start taking it easy. Best of health to her and good luck to you. Paul On Apr 23, 2006, at 12:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll try to be brief. Or as brief as I can be. :-) Mom had a colostomy operation a week ago. She's been home about two days. Seems to be doing okay. But the big issue will be getting her back on her feet and walking. She hasn't walked since she went into the hospital. Nothing really wrong with her legs and feet, but the floors there were slick and she was/is weak. I am afraid of her losing her mind/body connection with her feet. But I think I can get her up again. I am hiring a caregiver to help me too. She went in last Friday, had the operation Saturday night and was supposed to be there for a week. Since she was gone and I didn't have the expense of paying someone to take care of her, I thought, sheesh, I should take advantage of this and go somewhere. I okayed it with her doctor. I went last Wed - Thurs. I went to Monterey for 2 1/2 days and 2 nights. Saw the 17-mile drive (and took shots), Carmel (didn't), scenic drive in Carmel (didn't), the Monterey Aquarium (did), and Monterey Fisherman's Wharf (did). The weather was nice both days, just clouding up at night the last day. It was sort of whirlwind, and I was a bit pushed and tired, but I am glad I got away. Also while searching for one particular gallery in Carmel to look at one particular painter's paintings (which I did finally see), I came across a photographic gallery. With 8-9 original (resales, not reprints) Ansel Adams!!! A few other famous photographers too. It was neat to be able to get up and eyeball them closely. Impressive. One was an Indian pueblo type village with the moon over it. It was selling for $55,000. One of the smaller cheaper ones was $12,000. I should have written the titles down, but didn't. Sooner or later I may find them all, I think I've seen reproductions in books of some of them. Too bad he couldn't make that much during his lifetime, huh? And I had a nice geeky photo hobbyist type talk with the clerk in the gallery. I also saw George Lepp's California Poppy Show at the Monterey Natural History Museum. I didn't know it was going to be there, I just discovered it was there by reading a little tourist magazine they hand out in all the hotels and shops there. I had seen some of his poppy pictures before in a digital slideshow when I went to a Lepp weekend about a year ago. But it was nice to see some prints in person. (Still wish I knew where he found all those fields of poppies in CA, he told me, but I never found them. Maybe I will try again.) All in all, a satisfying trip. Although I was still pretty tired during it. And a quite photographic trip. :-) I hadn't planned to come back to PDML for about another month. Not until my programming project is finished. But Mom's operation has derailed me. I think I'll mainly be busy with her this week. So I'll hang around for a week or so until she is better. Then unsubscribe again to get back to my programming project undistracted. I simply don't lurk well. :-) Hi guys. Missed you. Marnie aka Doe
Re: OT - I'm back Monterey Trip
In a message dated 4/23/2006 11:45:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Welcome back. Good to hear you had some time for yourself. You're a saint for taking such good care of your mom. It's something many of us have to do at a time when we had hoped to start taking it easy. Best of health to her and good luck to you. Paul == Thanks, Paul, Cotty, Rick. Paul, I ain't no saint. Just stupid. That's my story and I am sticking to it. Marnie ;-)
Re: OT - I'm back Monterey Trip
Welcome back. Hope your mom gets better. Stick around. Cheers, Gautam On 4/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll try to be brief. Or as brief as I can be. :-) Mom had a colostomy operation a week ago. She's been home about two days. Seems to be doing okay. But the big issue will be getting her back on her feet and walking. She hasn't walked since she went into the hospital. Nothing really wrong with her legs and feet, but the floors there were slick and she was/is weak. I am afraid of her losing her mind/body connection with her feet. But I think I can get her up again. I am hiring a caregiver to help me too. She went in last Friday, had the operation Saturday night and was supposed to be there for a week. Since she was gone and I didn't have the expense of paying someone to take care of her, I thought, sheesh, I should take advantage of this and go somewhere. I okayed it with her doctor. I went last Wed - Thurs. I went to Monterey for 2 1/2 days and 2 nights. Saw the 17-mile drive (and took shots), Carmel (didn't), scenic drive in Carmel (didn't), the Monterey Aquarium (did), and Monterey Fisherman's Wharf (did). The weather was nice both days, just clouding up at night the last day. It was sort of whirlwind, and I was a bit pushed and tired, but I am glad I got away. Also while searching for one particular gallery in Carmel to look at one particular painter's paintings (which I did finally see), I came across a photographic gallery. With 8-9 original (resales, not reprints) Ansel Adams!!! A few other famous photographers too. It was neat to be able to get up and eyeball them closely. Impressive. One was an Indian pueblo type village with the moon over it. It was selling for $55,000. One of the smaller cheaper ones was $12,000. I should have written the titles down, but didn't. Sooner or later I may find them all, I think I've seen reproductions in books of some of them. Too bad he couldn't make that much during his lifetime, huh? And I had a nice geeky photo hobbyist type talk with the clerk in the gallery. I also saw George Lepp's California Poppy Show at the Monterey Natural History Museum. I didn't know it was going to be there, I just discovered it was there by reading a little tourist magazine they hand out in all the hotels and shops there. I had seen some of his poppy pictures before in a digital slideshow when I went to a Lepp weekend about a year ago. But it was nice to see some prints in person. (Still wish I knew where he found all those fields of poppies in CA, he told me, but I never found them. Maybe I will try again.) All in all, a satisfying trip. Although I was still pretty tired during it. And a quite photographic trip. :-) I hadn't planned to come back to PDML for about another month. Not until my programming project is finished. But Mom's operation has derailed me. I think I'll mainly be busy with her this week. So I'll hang around for a week or so until she is better. Then unsubscribe again to get back to my programming project undistracted. I simply don't lurk well. :-) Hi guys. Missed you. Marnie aka Doe
Re: OT - I'm back Monterey Trip
(Still wish I knew where he found all those fields of poppies in CA, he told me, but I never found them. Maybe I will try again.) I believe he lists places where he shot the poppies, in his poppy book. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT - I'm back Monterey Trip I'll try to be brief. Or as brief as I can be. :-) Mom had a colostomy operation a week ago. She's been home about two days. Seems to be doing okay. But the big issue will be getting her back on her feet and walking. She hasn't walked since she went into the hospital. Nothing really wrong with her legs and feet, but the floors there were slick and she was/is weak. I am afraid of her losing her mind/body connection with her feet. But I think I can get her up again. I am hiring a caregiver to help me too. She went in last Friday, had the operation Saturday night and was supposed to be there for a week. Since she was gone and I didn't have the expense of paying someone to take care of her, I thought, sheesh, I should take advantage of this and go somewhere. I okayed it with her doctor. I went last Wed - Thurs. I went to Monterey for 2 1/2 days and 2 nights. Saw the 17-mile drive (and took shots), Carmel (didn't), scenic drive in Carmel (didn't), the Monterey Aquarium (did), and Monterey Fisherman's Wharf (did). The weather was nice both days, just clouding up at night the last day. It was sort of whirlwind, and I was a bit pushed and tired, but I am glad I got away. Also while searching for one particular gallery in Carmel to look at one particular painter's paintings (which I did finally see), I came across a photographic gallery. With 8-9 original (resales, not reprints) Ansel Adams!!! A few other famous photographers too. It was neat to be able to get up and eyeball them closely. Impressive. One was an Indian pueblo type village with the moon over it. It was selling for $55,000. One of the smaller cheaper ones was $12,000. I should have written the titles down, but didn't. Sooner or later I may find them all, I think I've seen reproductions in books of some of them. Too bad he couldn't make that much during his lifetime, huh? And I had a nice geeky photo hobbyist type talk with the clerk in the gallery. I also saw George Lepp's California Poppy Show at the Monterey Natural History Museum. I didn't know it was going to be there, I just discovered it was there by reading a little tourist magazine they hand out in all the hotels and shops there. I had seen some of his poppy pictures before in a digital slideshow when I went to a Lepp weekend about a year ago. But it was nice to see some prints in person. (Still wish I knew where he found all those fields of poppies in CA, he told me, but I never found them. Maybe I will try again.) All in all, a satisfying trip. Although I was still pretty tired during it. And a quite photographic trip. :-) I hadn't planned to come back to PDML for about another month. Not until my programming project is finished. But Mom's operation has derailed me. I think I'll mainly be busy with her this week. So I'll hang around for a week or so until she is better. Then unsubscribe again to get back to my programming project undistracted. I simply don't lurk well. :-) Hi guys. Missed you. Marnie aka Doe
Re: OT - I'm back Monterey Trip
Hello Marnie! Was wondering where you'd gotten to. Sorry to hear about your mom ... Hang in there and do the best you can for her. But take care of yourself too. Glad you had some good time in Monterey. I've not been down there for too long. best Godfrey
Re: OT - I'm back Monterey Trip
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys. Missed you. Hi, Marnie. Good to see you back for a while. Hope all goes well with your mum. m
Re: OT - I'm back Monterey Trip
Hi Marnie, nice to see you back. I'm almost back myself... give me a week and I'll be all the way back. My last final in the last semester of my masters program is Tuesday May 2. I'm gonna be frazzled until than but ready to party afterwards!
Re: OT: I'm Back -- Follow Up on Image Tank Saga
On 19/5/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Nice to see you back, all rested up, Marnie. And, glad you got some satisfaction WRT that Image Tank (whatever that is...). Not heard if it Frank? It's a new Canon digital that is so big and heavy it comes with a set of caterpillar tracks to ride on. The lens sits on a turret that you aim by crawling inside and swishing to and fro in search of a candid street snap or two. No memory cards needed, it uploads vis satellite link straight to the mothership in low orbit... Right, I'm definitely off to lie down. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
OT: I'm Back -- Follow Up on Image Tank Saga
Well, I went off list for a while, when I put Mom in a nursing home for a week to get a rest. Then I have been involved in other things. Mom is had been home for a long time, none the worst for wear, although the nursing home lost 1/2 her clothes and one of her hearing aids and I had to sue them in small claims court. That is a long, long story that isn't finished yet. And I doubt I will share more here -- but beware if you have an aged relative with dementia -- nursing homes may not be good places for them. I have done much better with hired caregivers at home. And if I ever put her somewhere again so I can get a rest, I think I will go with a private home that takes in people. Nursing homes are understaffed and the staff is stressed and overworked and maybe not that good either -- undertrained. == On to the Image Tank saga. As some of you know, I bought an Image Tank about a year ago and used it about four times during that year and after the last time it went belly up. Didn't work. I had used it on a NorCal PDML meet in San Jose and it still had pictures on it on it. So I went to Fry's and they removed the laptop hard disk, and I got the pictures off it, and shared some on PDML. I had written the manufacturer and they said they weren't the manufacturer (as it turns out). I shared that on this list. Then several on the list said write mydigitaldiscount.com where I had originally bought it. I had doubts they would do anything since it had been over a year since I bought it. Well, with one thing and another (mainly Mom stuff), I didn't get around to writing them until about three weeks ago. I also felt I had to find the receipt -- but it turns out I could just have gone to mydigitaldiscount.com since they keep the receipts on file with one's account info. I finally wrote them. They said the warranty (they give a year's warranty on things, which I had not really thought about at all), had expired by TWO WEEKS. I felt totally dumb. But, OTOH, I had thought it had expired by months. I really hadn't paid any attention to that. So I said, Hey, I am on a camera list of 500 people. Think of all the good things I can say about mydigitaldiscount.com. Besides, I obviously got a lemon. So here is what they did -- He (the customer service representative I talked to/back and forth through emails) sold me an extended warranty (which, I obviously, had to really buy at the time I bought it, or before the year's warranty had run out). He also sold it to me at a major discount. Then he let me return the Image Tank. He was going to exchange it for another, newer model, but I took a look at it, and it looked exactly the same (in the web picture). I didn't want another one, no way I would trust one again. Besides, I had thought from the beginning that it was poorly made even before it went belly up. Since I bought the Image Tank for $200 originally, I tried to get him to let me exchange it for a storage device with picture review (the Image Tank had none) that now sells for $250 -- with me paying $50 more for the difference. See, the price of the Image Tank has gone way down from when I first bought it. With one thing and another he said he couldn't do that, they wouldn't consider it a comparable exchange. I couldn't really argue with that -- and I didn't figure arguing would get me anywhere either. :-) I did want a working storage device without having to pay a lot more money, get something out of the defunct Image Tank purchase. (I could have gotten one with picture review with spending another $150, but that would have been pointless. I wouldn't really have gotten any benefit out of my original Image Tank purchase.) So I agreed to pay $20 more to get a Vosonic X-Drive VP2160. No picture review, but pretty small and probably more reliable than the Image Tank. (Let's hope.) While I'd prefer picture review, when I originally bought the Image Tank, one could only get it on a few really expensive devices. (BOY, things change in a year). The Vosonic will be arriving next week. I am happy. I really just wanted a working storage device and not feel I had p***ed money away on the Image Tank. And I said I would rave about mydigitaldiscount.com. So here's my rave -- They didn't have to sell me an extended warranty so I could return the Image Tank. I felt this customer service representative really worked with me to reach a mutually happy solution. I always felt mydigitaldiscount.com was a pretty good place, now I *know* they are. RAVE, RAVE, RAVE. ;-) Marnie aka Doe
Re: OT: I'm Back -- Follow Up on Image Tank Saga
Glad to hear you got that straightened out satisfactory, Marnie. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.13 - Release Date: 5/19/2005
Re: OT: I'm Back -- Follow Up on Image Tank Saga
Yo Marn, I thought you were a bit quiet ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: OT: I'm Back -- Follow Up on Image Tank Saga
On 5/19/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yo Marn, I thought you were a bit quiet ;-) ...and it's not like Marnie to be quiet! LOL Nice to see you back, all rested up, Marnie. And, glad you got some satisfaction WRT that Image Tank (whatever that is...). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT: I'm Back with a new to me K1000 !!!
Heoo gents and ladies :) After having lunch with Frank and David Brooks and Jeff I decided that I'd come back to the list to see what's cooking. I've got a question about my new to me k1000 - it's been a while since I owned one and I'm almost a newbie again me thinks - but here's my question: Where do I put the memory card in the K1000??? ;) Glad to be back, Cheers, Dave Good to see your back Dave. At least i should not get a K1000 and LX mixed up as i sometimes do.LOL As for the memory card,you'll need to give them all to me.:-) Dave
Re: OT: I'm Back with a new to me K1000 !!!
Another great thing about these memory cassettes is that, once processed, you can hold the exposed capture area up to the light for quick and easy viewing. No need to tie into a laptop or satellite system. Shel [Original Message] From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] These memory cassettes have good points and bad points. On the bad side, they'll only take 36 frames. One the good side, there's only one resolution to choose from (highest) - you can compress the files later in your computer for Internet purposes. And, if your batteries run out, the capture system still works! Just shoot away, setting your own aperture and shutter speed manually! How's that for innovation!!
Re: OT: I'm Back with a new to me K1000 !!!
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 07:54:56 -0800, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another great thing about these memory cassettes is that, once processed, you can hold the exposed capture area up to the light for quick and easy viewing. No need to tie into a laptop or satellite system. Is that like analogue chimping? -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT: I'm Back with a new to me K1000 !!!
LOL Poor man's digital? Shel [Original Message] From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Another great thing about these memory cassettes is that, once processed, you can hold the exposed capture area up to the light for quick and easy viewing. No need to tie into a laptop or satellite system. Is that like analogue chimping?
OT: I'm Back with a new to me K1000 !!!
Heoo gents and ladies :) After having lunch with Frank and David Brooks and Jeff I decided that I'd come back to the list to see what's cooking. I've got a question about my new to me k1000 - it's been a while since I owned one and I'm almost a newbie again me thinks - but here's my question: Where do I put the memory card in the K1000??? ;) Glad to be back, Cheers, Dave
Re: OT: I'm Back with a new to me K1000 !!!
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:26:00 -0500, David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heoo gents and ladies :) After having lunch with Frank and David Brooks and Jeff I decided that I'd come back to the list to see what's cooking. I've got a question about my new to me k1000 - it's been a while since I owned one and I'm almost a newbie again me thinks - but here's my question: Where do I put the memory card in the K1000??? ;) go away -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT: I'm Back with a new to me K1000 !!!
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:26:00 -0500, David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heoo gents and ladies :) After having lunch with Frank and David Brooks and Jeff I decided that I'd come back to the list to see what's cooking. I've got a question about my new to me k1000 - it's been a while since I owned one and I'm almost a newbie again me thinks - but here's my question: Where do I put the memory card in the K1000??? ;) Glad to be back, Cheers, Dave Seriously, we're always glad to see you here (again), David. WRT the memory card, the K1000 has an innovative and daring new type of memory card: a sort of anologue memory strip. Instead of fiddling with little slots, the whole back of the camera opens to accept the card. The card itself is a largish, ergonomically shaped cylinder. Just pull the cellulose capture area across the back of the shutter to a handy take-up spool, close the back of the camera, and you're set to go. These memory cassettes have good points and bad points. On the bad side, they'll only take 36 frames. One the good side, there's only one resolution to choose from (highest) - you can compress the files later in your computer for internet purposes. And, if your batteries run out, the capture system still works! Just shoot away, setting your own aperture and shutter speed manually! How's that for innovation!! Have fun! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT - I'm back, Suckers!
On 31/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: So, since I had no computer, I couldn't check e-mails, my Hotmail inbox overflowed, I bounced e-mails, and got unsubbed. I think I'm now resubbed (we'll see). I thought it was nice and quiet around here ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: OT - I'm back, Suckers!
Hi, again, Lukasz, Well, as you now know I bought an LX. And, you're right, I was broke. And, in fact, I'm still broke. I paid for the LX by cheque; just wait until Vic tries to cash it. Hee hee hee... But, seriously, yeah, this summer I was having serious cash flow problems. Two things changed a little bit. First, over the last few weeks we've gotten a little busier at work (it may be only temporary, but it's meant two 1/2 decent paycheques). Plus, I changed residences last month, and that saves me quite a bit of rent each month. Those two situations combined to allow me this purchase. Besides, when you hear of something you really want, you figure out a way, right? vbg I mean, this is the first body I've bought in well over a year. I've been a very reasonable boy... And, your joke is in no way offensive. I'd have sold a kidney for it, but I only have one left, and I need that one. I already sold the first one to pay for my Leica... cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Lukasz Kacperczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stop teasing us! BTW - have you sold one of your kidneys to get the money for the enablement (you said you were broke)? vbg Regards, Lukasz PS. Hope the joke wasn't in bad taste (at least not too bad for you). [EMAIL PROTECTED] === www.fotopolis.pl === internetowy magazyn o fotografii _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Re: [OT] I'm back :)
Not me Lon.:) We actually lost another this weekend(see http://brooks1952.tripod.com/epson2450 )so we are down to 3.Classic case of he adopted usg Now to find my Juxtaposition picture for the 20th. Dave Begin Original Message From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:53:58 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] I'm back :) Does this mean you slam any cute lil' kitty pix posted on PUG? Grin. -Lon William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: David Brooks Subject: Re: Re: [OT] I'm back :) What kind pray tell.You have big dogs correct? I'v been trying to talk the SO into a puppy but she's a cat person(4):) I was as commited a cat person as you could hope to meet until Leica came into my life. Now I see cats for what they are: foul, filthy little alergen creating parasites. William Robb End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: [OT] I'm back :)
- Original Message - From: Jeff In a few months, that puppy will have the cat for breakfast. Nah, they are absolutely the best of friends. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/Leica_T-Max4.jpg William Robb
Re: [OT] I'm back :)
Hmmm, My computer doesn't appear to HAVE a J drive . .. Bill William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Lon Williamson Subject: Re: [OT] I'm back :) Does this mean you slam any cute lil' kitty pix posted on PUG? Grin. Find me a kitty picture cuter than this.. file:///J:/photo/puppies/leica_tmax.html Pentax content: Shot on a Zoom 105 Super William Robb -- William Kane http://www.KaneScience.com IABT Advisory Board Member http://www.iabt.net Tinley Park High School 6111 W. 175th Street Tinley Park, IL 60477 V: 708/532-1900 ext 3909 http://www.bhsd228.com
RE: [OT] I'm back :)
URL no good William. Shaun Canning Archaeology Department La Trobe University, Bundoora, Victoria, 3086. Phone: 0414-967 644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:w_robb;accesscomm.ca] Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2002 9:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] I'm back :) - Original Message - From: Lon Williamson Subject: Re: [OT] I'm back :) Does this mean you slam any cute lil' kitty pix posted on PUG? Grin. Find me a kitty picture cuter than this.. file:///J:/photo/puppies/leica_tmax.html Pentax content: Shot on a Zoom 105 Super William Robb
Re: [OT] I'm back :)
- Original Message - From: William Kane Subject: Re: [OT] I'm back :) Hmmm, My computer doesn't appear to HAVE a J drive . .. HAR!! http://www.reginakennelclub.ca/photo/puppies/leica_tmax.html Teach me to send a URL out from a website I am working on. William Robb
Re: [OT] I'm back :)
- Original Message - From: Shaun Canning Subject: RE: [OT] I'm back :) URL no good William. Ya, I know... http://www.reginakennelclub.ca/photo/puppies/leica_tmax.html DOH!! William Robb
RE: [OT] I'm back :)
Erm, how do we get to your J: drive? Len --- -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:w_robb;accesscomm.ca] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 4:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] I'm back :) - Original Message - From: Lon Williamson Subject: Re: [OT] I'm back :) Does this mean you slam any cute lil' kitty pix posted on PUG? Grin. Find me a kitty picture cuter than this.. file:///J:/photo/puppies/leica_tmax.html Pentax content: Shot on a Zoom 105 Super William Robb
Re: [OT] I'm back :)
In a few months, that puppy will have the cat for breakfast. Jeff. - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [OT] I'm back :) - Original Message - From: William Robb Subject: Re: [OT] I'm back :) Bill, you big old dork. That link won't get anyone anywhere. Idiot. Fool. http://www.reginakennelclub.ca/photo/puppies/leica_tmax.html William Robb - Original Message - From: Lon Williamson Subject: Re: [OT] I'm back :) Does this mean you slam any cute lil' kitty pix posted on PUG? Grin. Find me a kitty picture cuter than this.. file:///J:/photo/puppies/leica_tmax.html Pentax content: Shot on a Zoom 105 Super William Robb
Re: [OT] I'm back :)
I was as commited a cat person as you could hope to meet until Leica came into my life. Now I see cats for what they are: foul, filthy little alergen creating parasites. William Robb Wow. Must be some kinda weird rangefinder vibe . . . Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] I'm back :)
Hi there, due to a sudden failure of my computer I've been unable to receive and answers emails (and not only that) from saturday morning until now, but now I'm back. Are you as happy as me? ;) Regards, ukasz
Re: [OT] I'm back :)
Yes, we were so lost without you that Doug temporarily shut down the PDML until you overcame your technical difficulties ;-) - Original Message - From: ukasz Kacperczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:28 AM Subject: [OT] I'm back :) Hi there, due to a sudden failure of my computer I've been unable to receive and answers emails (and not only that) from saturday morning until now, but now I'm back. Are you as happy as me? ;) Regards, ukasz
Odp: [OT] I'm back :)
The 950 messages in my inbox say otherwise, but what the heck - I forgive you ;-) ukasz - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [OT] I'm back :) Yes, we were so lost without you that Doug temporarily shut down the PDML until you overcame your technical difficulties ;-) - Original Message - From: ukasz Kacperczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:28 AM Subject: [OT] I'm back :) Hi there, due to a sudden failure of my computer I've been unable to receive and answers emails (and not only that) from saturday morning until now, but now I'm back. Are you as happy as me? ;) Regards, ukasz
Re: Odp: [OT] I'm back :)
I guess you know what you will be doing :-) From: £ukasz Kacperczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Odp: [OT] I'm back :) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:50:30 +0100 The 950 messages in my inbox say otherwise, but what the heck - I forgive you ;-) £ukasz - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [OT] I'm back :) Yes, we were so lost without you that Doug temporarily shut down the PDML until you overcame your technical difficulties ;-) - Original Message - From: £ukasz Kacperczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:28 AM Subject: [OT] I'm back :) Hi there, due to a sudden failure of my computer I've been unable to receive and answers emails (and not only that) from saturday morning until now, but now I'm back. Are you as happy as me? ;) Regards, £ukasz _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: Re: [OT] I'm back :)
- Original Message - From: David Brooks Subject: Re: Re: [OT] I'm back :) What kind pray tell.You have big dogs correct? I'v been trying to talk the SO into a puppy but she's a cat person(4):) I was as commited a cat person as you could hope to meet until Leica came into my life. Now I see cats for what they are: foul, filthy little alergen creating parasites. William Robb
Re: [OT] I'm back :)
- Original Message - From: Wendy Beard Medium sized dogs ;-) I have a Bernese Mountain dog and a Belgian Tervuren (or Belgian Sheepdog of the Tervuren variety according to the CKC). Puppy is also a Terv. Prepare for all my submissions to the PUG for the next year to have a distinctly doggy flavour You can tell the hardcore dog people. Most of the people I know would classify a Belgian Shepherd or a Bernese as a big dog. My Rottie bitch is 90 pounds and 27 inches at the shoulder, my male is 28 inches and 100 pounds. I don't think of them as big dogs, more like chihuahuas. I had both a Belgian and a Bernese in a couple of obedience classes a while back. Nice dogs. Especially the Bernese and the Belgian. William Robb
Re: [OT] I'm back :)
Weird. I got a Leica this summer, and I still like my cat. Go figure. As a cat lover, though, I have to agree with your assessment of the beasts. Maybe I like them because they remind me of ~me~. I've always said that dogs are what we wish humans to be; cats reflect us as we really are. g -frank William Robb wrote: I was as commited a cat person as you could hope to meet until Leica came into my life. Now I see cats for what they are: foul, filthy little alergen creating parasites. William Robb -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
