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I wrote to Leica last night, telling them the sordid history of my M8s. The card fail defect seems to be extremely common. I suggested a firmware upgrade thst bypasses the write protect feature altogether. Sent from my iPad Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, Louisiana USA On May 29, 2012, at 0:19, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On May 29, 2012, at 6:25 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote: And you say you bought the Gear from BH, who cannot shirk their prime responsibility and pass the buck on to you. You should send your gear to BH under US Law and tell them to sweat it put with Leica, as you bought the camera from BH and not Leica. That's the advice I'd give as the law in NZ places responsibility on the retailer, but I don't know if the same applies in the USA. Either way it sounds like a terrible situation. Maybe a polite-but-nasty letter from your lawyer would help to get things moving. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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AFAIK the write protect is like that on an old 3 1/2 inch floppy. Leica would have to write the firmware patch as the firmware resides entirely in the camera. That is if the card-reader itself doesn't have it's own inviolable firmware. . On 5/29/2012 7:11 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I wrote to Leica last night, telling them the sordid history of my M8s. The card fail defect seems to be extremely common. I suggested a firmware upgrade thst bypasses the write protect feature altogether. Sent from my iPad Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, Louisiana USA On May 29, 2012, at 0:19, David Manndmann...@gmail.com wrote: On May 29, 2012, at 6:25 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote: And you say you bought the Gear from BH, who cannot shirk their prime responsibility and pass the buck on to you. You should send your gear to BH under US Law and tell them to sweat it put with Leica, as you bought the camera from BH and not Leica. That's the advice I'd give as the law in NZ places responsibility on the retailer, but I don't know if the same applies in the USA. Either way it sounds like a terrible situation. Maybe a polite-but-nasty letter from your lawyer would help to get things moving. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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An SD card's write protect feature is implemented in hardware on the card and cannot be defeated by software in the card reader or camera. There's no reason an M8 should be so fragile or impossible to fix. Lots of people are getting excellent service out of their M8s without these kinds of sensitivities to which card is used. And there's certainly no reason for Jeffery's customer service experience. While most companies are poor on returning telephone calls these days, a courteous and prompt response via email to a customer with a $5000 purchase problem in their hand is the norm that I've experienced. Go for it, Jeffery. :-) Godfrey On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:06 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: AFAIK the write protect is like that on an old 3 1/2 inch floppy. Leica would have to write the firmware patch as the firmware resides entirely in the camera. That is if the card-reader itself doesn't have it's own inviolable firmware. . On 5/29/2012 7:11 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I wrote to Leica last night, telling them the sordid history of my M8s. The card fail defect seems to be extremely common. I suggested a firmware upgrade thst bypasses the write protect feature altogether. Sent from my iPad Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, Louisiana USA ... -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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on 2012-05-29 9:47 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote An SD card's write protect feature is implemented in hardware on the card and cannot be defeated by software in the card reader or camera. that's not correct; tape over the switch to demonstrate, or read about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Card_security_.28non-DRM.29 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I tried with two of mine. Didn't unlock the card. G On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:56 AM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2012-05-29 9:47 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote An SD card's write protect feature is implemented in hardware on the card and cannot be defeated by software in the card reader or camera. that's not correct; tape over the switch to demonstrate, or read about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Card_security_.28non-DRM.29 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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on 2012-05-29 11:10 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote I tried with two of mine. Didn't unlock the card. i just tried it on one of mine and it worked — maybe you were using a Leica? ;? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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steve harley wrote: on 2012-05-29 11:10 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote I tried with two of mine. Didn't unlock the card. i just tried it on one of mine and it worked maybe you were using a Leica? ;? Ouch! :-) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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steve harley wrote: on 2012-05-29 11:10 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote I tried with two of mine. Didn't unlock the card. i just tried it on one of mine and it worked — maybe you were using a Leica? Very funny. No, my MacBook Air. Happens to be what I have with me today, aside from the Nikon F. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:55:04PM -0400, Dmitry Gromov wrote: Hi! On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: BHPhoto. They told me to contact Leica. Leica replaced the camera after several months of unreturned phone calls (I contacted their president). The second camera was also defective. After another month of unreturned phone calls, I put it in a drawer. If you aren't a pro photographer, Leica shows no responsibility for defective equipment. Why not to try and recover your money with small claims court or something and put them for some other good use (Pentax gear)? Dmitry The terms 'Leica' and 'Small Claims Court' are mutually exclusive. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi! On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:47 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: The terms 'Leica' and 'Small Claims Court' are mutually exclusive. Yeah, you are right, I almost forgot that limit in small claims court in US is just $5000 - far cry from the prices charged by that German outlet... D. -- //DG LOC(NJ) //* -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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on 2012-05-29 12:42 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote steve harley wrote: on 2012-05-29 11:10 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote I tried with two of mine. Didn't unlock the card. i just tried it on one of mine and it worked — maybe you were using a Leica? Very funny. No, my MacBook Air. Happens to be what I have with me today, aside from the Nikon F. i had used a Pentax K200d; just tried it with a MacBook pro, worked there too; tried a second card with the same positive results in both camera and computer to be specific, i slid the tab to the locked position and inserted into the computer's card slot; the volume appeared with the unwritable symbol (pencil with a slash through it); ejected card, placed a small piece of Scotch removable tape over the slide area like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/aw8cwy0px7pod9o/sd-write-lock-defeat.jpg re-inserted and volume was writable; copied a file to it successfully -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yes, I use SanDisk cards and have had no problems with them in my M8. B Hmmm. Sounds like a camera problem. On May 27, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I seem to always buy SanDisk, and not one of them will work in a Leica M8. I just ordered a Kingston in hopes that it will work. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bypassing all the card failure talk for a moment, Christine, let's talk rapid shooting with the K-5. I've been stymied a few times when I was shooting RAW+JPEG with JPEG at 4 stars and large image size (the two JPEG conditions you can adjust) and the camera set on 'Continuous - Hi Speed. The camera will shoot quite a few shots under the circumstances, I don't know the limits at the moment. Once you stop shooting, the writing can go on for quite some time, though it should let you shoot some more frames as the buffer gets emptied. Turning the camera on off while the camera is writing it's buffers to card seems to me to be a good way to corrupt the data being written, even to the point where, like an old floppy, the writing of the directory gets corrupted. At that point it makes sense that the camera may tell you it has '0' room left on it, as the card cannot tell the camera what it has because it doesn't know itself. Try hooking the card up to your computer and see if it mounts to the desktop. If it does, format it as a Mac or PC removable device, as you would a USB memory stick. If you can do that, putting it back in the camera and formatting it again (not erase - format) may salvage it. Next thing to try is to see if the maker of the card has a downloadable software program to save the data on a corrupted SD card like SanDisk does. I may be anal, but as I purchased them (SanDisks, usually from Costco) I went on the SanDisk site and registered them to my account. Comes in handy when they fail years later - you might even get a free replacement. I had two of my 1 TB Iomega Mac Minidisks fail in the past six months. Turns out I had gotten extended warranty on them because I had registered them right away when I bought them. Like Pentax's offer for a 3 year vs a 1 year warranty if you register the piece within 30 days or some-such. Anyway, both drives extended warranties are up July 1st. So Monday, off they go for replacement which, except for shipping to Iomega, is much cheaper than buying a couple of replacement drives and sticking them in the Iomega cases. Gook Luck with all this - Jos. J. McAllister Optimist Extraordinair On May 27, 2012, at 11:36 , Christine Nielsen wrote: Yesterday I was trying to catch a few shots of my guy in action at the state division track meet. I had my trusty k-5 plus 50-135 combo. I had just reformatted the sd card, and took some pics, just to chimp. So far, so good. The race started -- the one mile event -- and I shot off a burst as the runners came past me. Since they have to travel another 400 meters before they come around again, I took the opportunity to peek at what I got... only the previews weren't yet available. OK, I wait but the little red light stayed on... and wouldn't go off... and now here the runners come again (66 seconds later) crap, there they go, and still my camera is hung up. No shooting, no previews, just a little red light. I turn off the camera. Red light remains, and on the top lcd screen, the image remaining count still shows, approx 216 shots left. Then, I forget exactly what I did -- probably turned it off on, swore at it a few times, and cheered for my runner -- but in the end, memory card error on the back screen, and a remaining image count now at 0. And then the race was over. I've never had a memory card fail on me this way... it was traumatic! I think it's just the card -- I popped another one in, and there were no other problems. Does this behavior fit the profile of sd card failures you've known? How much worse do you think I made the situation with my frantic button-pushing? ;) Thanks, -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. If it doesn’t excite you, This thing that you see, Why in the world, Would it excite me? —Jay Maisel Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If I thought Leica would make it right, I would have sent it back in a heartbeat. If you aren't a pro, they don't return your phone calls. Great glass, but if you cannot convince them that you are a professional photographer, you don't exist. Over the years, I have bought about $40,000 of Leica cameras and lenses. I'll never buy another Leica product, nor will I recommend one. There are alternatives. I'm sure that I could fabricate a web presence that suggested I was a pro, but why stoop to that? If Leica feels that they can exist supporting only pro photographers while f*cking amateurs, let's see how that works for them. I'll stick with Pentax before I ever buy Leica again. I'll shoot with Sigma exclusively before I ever consider Leica again. By the way, the Fuji X100 is really sweet, and it recognizes SD cards, And if it didn't, Fuji would make it right, even if you are an amateur. Jeffery Sent from my iPad Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, Louisiana USA On May 28, 2012, at 1:33, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Yes, I use SanDisk cards and have had no problems with them in my M8. B Hmmm. Sounds like a camera problem. On May 27, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I seem to always buy SanDisk, and not one of them will work in a Leica M8. I just ordered a Kingston in hopes that it will work. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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on 2012-05-27 20:23 Jeffery Smith wrote I final note…the guys on the LUG told me that I should have been using Transcend cards (which were the cheapest SD cards at BHPhoto at the time). I bought some. They didn't work in the Leica, nor did they work more than a few weeks in the Pentax. I think they are considered to be one-use cards, like Depends undergarments. anecdotal evidence on this type of product is worth about as much as those Depends; i've used Transcend, ADATA and now Team — cheapo brands — without problems; if i have problems, how could i possibly know it is the brand's fault? unless there are subsidiary arrangements i don't know of it seems like Samsung is the only company actually manufacturing NAND flash chips and controllers and selling SD cards; the reset are labeling and distribution companies; there may be variations, but all the effort at building brand loyalty seems a bit of a farce to me -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:53 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I've never had a card fail that way, I've had the case crack and the write protect tab fall out, (why the heck do we have a feature that first appeared on floppy disks, and wasn't such a good idea then still on a solid state memory device). It sounds like a reasonable error message. The camera cannot access the card, so of course the camera will report that there is space for 0 images. That doesn't rule out that the read/write device in the camera isn't defective and somehow damaged the card, but it seems much more likely that the card simply died. Like all electronics heat stress will eventually kill it. Sandisk claims a MTBF of 1,000,000 hours, I don't know what brand you use, I could find a number for Sandisk, but that's an arithmetic average, so a card could die at any time, it just has the probability of lasting about 114 years, (if I did the math correctly). I'd like to know how that MTBF was calculated. I bet with the card mostly sitting in your backpack :) I had a card go bad, once - IIRC it was a Transcend. The camera (an *istD) was writing the images just fine, but the file wasn't (like it had a bad sector it couldn't write on). Since then, all my cards are Sandisk; and I had a Sandisk going bad, too, completely fried - but that was because of some lousy reader. Since then, all my readers are SandiskLexars :) The camera behaviour seems indeed reasonable. -- Best regards, Alex Sarbu -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2012-05-27 16:55, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! On the other hand, I've got six or eight PNY cards that I've been using for 3+ years with nary a problem. -- Doug Lefty Franklin NutDriver Racing http://NutDriver.org Facebook NutDriver Racing Sponsored by Murphy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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all my cards are sandisk and Ive never had a problem in my istDS with any of them in 5 years - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Doug Franklin Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 7:54 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: card FAIL? On 2012-05-27 16:55, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! On the other hand, I've got six or eight PNY cards that I've been using for 3+ years with nary a problem. -- Doug Lefty Franklin NutDriver Racing http://NutDriver.org Facebook NutDriver Racing Sponsored by Murphy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Jeffery needs to buy German HAMA Cards for his German Leica Camera. I always use SanDisk Extreme Cards and these have never let me down. But in an emergency on our Europe trip, I had to go into Media Mart Cologne and buy HAMA 8 GB Class 10 Cards. They are pretty good too. Cards need to be handled with care, like you don't switch off your camera in an ongoing read / write / format operation. You don't eject it under the same conditions. And they do have a life - in terms of number of formats, read / write operation etc. And sadly they can fail suddenly too. Some cameras have (2) card slots and may be helpful. Perhaps Pentax can emulate this design. Regards. Bipin - from a far away enchanting land. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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on 2012-05-28 1:01 Joseph McAllister wrote I had two of my 1 TB Iomega Mac Minidisks fail in the past six months. [...] So Monday, off they go for replacement which, except for shipping to Iomega, is much cheaper than buying a couple of replacement drives and sticking them in the Iomega cases. fwiw it's somewhat more likely the cases (power supply or driver board) and not the drives that have failed -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Cards do fail, very occasionally, but it's rare. Buy premium quality cards - Sandisk Extreme, Lexar pro, etc - for reduced incidence of failures. I've never had a card fail. G I've had one card to fail. First symptom was the computer would not read the card when I tried to download the images. When I put the card back into the camera and tried to view the images on the LCD, I got the memory card error message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Where did you purchase the camera? They're required to make it good. There's a thing called a Warranty of Merchantability, which means that unless the camera was specifically sold as is or defective, you can use it for its intended purpose, i.e. as a camera. If you cannot, the vendor must either replace it with a functional camera or refund your money. From: Jeffery Smith Can't. It refuses to format a card that it thinks is write protected. But it would read the firmware update. Jeffery Sent from my iPad Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, Louisiana USA On May 27, 2012, at 22:33, ma...@redwoodhorses.com wrote: Are you formatting the card with the camera? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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BHPhoto. They told me to contact Leica. Leica replaced the camera after several months of unreturned phone calls (I contacted their president). The second camera was also defective. After another month of unreturned phone calls, I put it in a drawer. If you aren't a pro photographer, Leica shows no responsibility for defective equipment. I'll still shoot film in my other Leica bodies. I hate to lose access to all of those lenses, and have thought about buying a Sony NEX and an adapter. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 28, 2012, at 11:14 AM, John Sessoms wrote: Where did you purchase the camera? They're required to make it good. There's a thing called a Warranty of Merchantability, which means that unless the camera was specifically sold as is or defective, you can use it for its intended purpose, i.e. as a camera. If you cannot, the vendor must either replace it with a functional camera or refund your money. From: Jeffery Smith Can't. It refuses to format a card that it thinks is write protected. But it would read the firmware update. Jeffery Sent from my iPad Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, Louisiana USA On May 27, 2012, at 22:33, ma...@redwoodhorses.com wrote: Are you formatting the card with the camera? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi! On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: BHPhoto. They told me to contact Leica. Leica replaced the camera after several months of unreturned phone calls (I contacted their president). The second camera was also defective. After another month of unreturned phone calls, I put it in a drawer. If you aren't a pro photographer, Leica shows no responsibility for defective equipment. Why not to try and recover your money with small claims court or something and put them for some other good use (Pentax gear)? Dmitry -- //DG LOC(NJ) //* -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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After months of trying to get Leica to return an email or phone call, I was so burnt out I just decided to put it behind me as a very costly mistake. I was literally calling the service manager every 15 minutes for hours at a time only to be told by his secretary (every 15 minutes) that He just stepped away from his desk. They have very effective obstacles. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 28, 2012, at 11:55 AM, Dmitry Gromov wrote: Hi! On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: BHPhoto. They told me to contact Leica. Leica replaced the camera after several months of unreturned phone calls (I contacted their president). The second camera was also defective. After another month of unreturned phone calls, I put it in a drawer. If you aren't a pro photographer, Leica shows no responsibility for defective equipment. Why not to try and recover your money with small claims court or something and put them for some other good use (Pentax gear)? Dmitry -- //DG LOC(NJ) //* -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'd say that's a problem with your dealer, assuming you did not buy directly from Leica. Over here I would take the camera to the dealer and he has the legal responsibility to sort things out because my sale contract is with him, not with his suppliers. If he pisses people off he quickly gets a bad name and goes out of business. My dealers have always been very good, and if I'd spent that much money with them I'd expect at least a leave it to your imagination every time I walked into the shop. B If I thought Leica would make it right, I would have sent it back in a heartbeat. If you aren't a pro, they don't return your phone calls. Great glass, but if you cannot convince them that you are a professional photographer, you don't exist. Over the years, I have bought about $40,000 of Leica cameras and lenses. I'll never buy another Leica product, nor will I recommend one. There are alternatives. I'm sure that I could fabricate a web presence that suggested I was a pro, but why stoop to that? If Leica feels that they can exist supporting only pro photographers while f*cking amateurs, let's see how that works for them. I'll stick with Pentax before I ever buy Leica again. I'll shoot with Sigma exclusively before I ever consider Leica again. By the way, the Fuji X100 is really sweet, and it recognizes SD cards, And if it didn't, Fuji would make it right, even if you are an amateur. Jeffery Sent from my iPad Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, Louisiana USA On May 28, 2012, at 1:33, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Yes, I use SanDisk cards and have had no problems with them in my M8. B Hmmm. Sounds like a camera problem. On May 27, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I seem to always buy SanDisk, and not one of them will work in a Leica M8. I just ordered a Kingston in hopes that it will work. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Jeffery Sir, I believe you have to be persistent in making your point and ensuring you get a perfectly working product, as European Laws are stricter than North America. I too am a Leica user - my family since 1938 - and have never had a problem unresolved by these guys. Perhaps my position as an Advisor in one of the largest conglomerates in the Middle East may have helped, but I believe this is not true. And you say you bought the Gear from BH, who cannot shirk their prime responsibility and pass the buck on to you. You should send your gear to BH under US Law and tell them to sweat it put with Leica, as you bought the camera from BH and not Leica. Ofcourse under the RMA of BH you may ship it to the Leica Service Center in the US or in Europe directly, as advised by BH. Sorry friend, but I see the weak link in you. Regards. Bipin - from a far away enchanting land. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yep, Dmitry is right. Here in India we have Consumer Courts, where the charge is peanuts and you do not require Lawyers to represent you. There is something similar in Europe, and Jeffrey needs to explore these avenues instead of excusing himself with Burnt Out obstacles. Get hold of BH dammit, by their x, and let them sweat it out with Leica Europe. Regards. Bipin - from a far away enchanting land. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I have ordered several other cards made by someone other than SanDisk. I did some searching on the 'net, and it appears that the manager of service at Leica is no longer employed by them (Bob Fisk). If the new cards don't work, I'll call Leica and see what my options are. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 28, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote: Yep, Dmitry is right. Here in India we have Consumer Courts, where the charge is peanuts and you do not require Lawyers to represent you. There is something similar in Europe, and Jeffrey needs to explore these avenues instead of excusing himself with Burnt Out obstacles. Get hold of BH dammit, by their x, and let them sweat it out with Leica Europe. Regards. Bipin - from a far away enchanting land. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: Bypassing all the card failure talk for a moment, Christine, let's talk rapid shooting with the K-5. Ok, let's! :) I've been stymied a few times when I was shooting RAW+JPEG with JPEG at 4 stars and large image size (the two JPEG conditions you can adjust) and the camera set on 'Continuous - Hi Speed. The camera will shoot quite a few shots under the circumstances, I don't know the limits at the moment. Once you stop shooting, the writing can go on for quite some time, though it should let you shoot some more frames as the buffer gets emptied. Yes, I have experienced this as well... though I don't usually shoot RAW +, just RAW, but the same thing happens when I shoot off several bursts in quick succession... it does need time to catch up. This time, it seemed to be taking extra-long... I couldn't have taken more than 6 or 8 shots, and it was hung up for over a minute (based on quarter mile splits...). Turning the camera on off while the camera is writing it's buffers to card seems to me to be a good way to corrupt the data being written, even to the point where, like an old floppy, the writing of the directory gets corrupted. At that point it makes sense that the camera may tell you it has '0' room left on it, as the card cannot tell the camera what it has because it doesn't know itself. I accept that my panicky button pushing likely made things worse... at least, if there had been any chance of images being written to the card eventually, I effectively put a stop to that. Argh. Try hooking the card up to your computer and see if it mounts to the desktop. If it does, format it as a Mac or PC removable device, as you would a USB memory stick. If you can do that, putting it back in the camera and formatting it again (not erase - format) may salvage it. It does mount to the desktop... and on it appear two images. Well, one image, fully formed... the other looks to be the start of an image, represented only by the DNG icon, no preview, a file containing 0kb. So, there you have it. The first image was the chimp, the next, must have been the first of the burst. Next thing to try is to see if the maker of the card has a downloadable software program to save the data on a corrupted SD card like SanDisk does. We do have something like that on hand -- my next step. I may be anal, but as I purchased them (SanDisks, usually from Costco) I went on the SanDisk site and registered them to my account. Comes in handy when they fail years later - you might even get a free replacement. Will keep that in mind for my future (near future) purchases... Thanks! -c I had two of my 1 TB Iomega Mac Minidisks fail in the past six months. Turns out I had gotten extended warranty on them because I had registered them right away when I bought them. Like Pentax's offer for a 3 year vs a 1 year warranty if you register the piece within 30 days or some-such. Anyway, both drives extended warranties are up July 1st. So Monday, off they go for replacement which, except for shipping to Iomega, is much cheaper than buying a couple of replacement drives and sticking them in the Iomega cases. Gook Luck with all this - Jos. J. McAllister Optimist Extraordinair On May 27, 2012, at 11:36 , Christine Nielsen wrote: Yesterday I was trying to catch a few shots of my guy in action at the state division track meet. I had my trusty k-5 plus 50-135 combo. I had just reformatted the sd card, and took some pics, just to chimp. So far, so good. The race started -- the one mile event -- and I shot off a burst as the runners came past me. Since they have to travel another 400 meters before they come around again, I took the opportunity to peek at what I got... only the previews weren't yet available. OK, I wait but the little red light stayed on... and wouldn't go off... and now here the runners come again (66 seconds later) crap, there they go, and still my camera is hung up. No shooting, no previews, just a little red light. I turn off the camera. Red light remains, and on the top lcd screen, the image remaining count still shows, approx 216 shots left. Then, I forget exactly what I did -- probably turned it off on, swore at it a few times, and cheered for my runner -- but in the end, memory card error on the back screen, and a remaining image count now at 0. And then the race was over. I've never had a memory card fail on me this way... it was traumatic! I think it's just the card -- I popped another one in, and there were no other problems. Does this behavior fit the profile of sd card failures you've known? How much worse do you think I made the situation with my frantic button-pushing? ;) Thanks, -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit
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From: Jeffery Smith After months of trying to get Leica to return an email or phone call, I was so burnt out I just decided to put it behind me as a very costly mistake. I was literally calling the service manager every 15 minutes for hours at a time only to be told by his secretary (every 15 minutes) that He just stepped away from his desk. They have very effective obstacles. Regards, Jeffery I wouldn't even have wasted a month on Leica. I'd call them one time. If they won't stand behind their merchandise FUCK 'EM! I'd have returned it to BH for a refund. IF BH didn't want to provide that refund, I would have contacted the NY State Attorney General's Office ... among others. I would also have contacted my credit card company and disputed the charge. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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BH is very good about defective merchandise. I always call them first. Paul On May 28, 2012, at 5:35 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Jeffery Smith After months of trying to get Leica to return an email or phone call, I was so burnt out I just decided to put it behind me as a very costly mistake. I was literally calling the service manager every 15 minutes for hours at a time only to be told by his secretary (every 15 minutes) that He just stepped away from his desk. They have very effective obstacles. Regards, Jeffery I wouldn't even have wasted a month on Leica. I'd call them one time. If they won't stand behind their merchandise FUCK 'EM! I'd have returned it to BH for a refund. IF BH didn't want to provide that refund, I would have contacted the NY State Attorney General's Office ... among others. I would also have contacted my credit card company and disputed the charge. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On May 29, 2012, at 6:25 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote: And you say you bought the Gear from BH, who cannot shirk their prime responsibility and pass the buck on to you. You should send your gear to BH under US Law and tell them to sweat it put with Leica, as you bought the camera from BH and not Leica. That's the advice I'd give as the law in NZ places responsibility on the retailer, but I don't know if the same applies in the USA. Either way it sounds like a terrible situation. Maybe a polite-but-nasty letter from your lawyer would help to get things moving. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yesterday I was trying to catch a few shots of my guy in action at the state division track meet. I had my trusty k-5 plus 50-135 combo. I had just reformatted the sd card, and took some pics, just to chimp. So far, so good. The race started -- the one mile event -- and I shot off a burst as the runners came past me. Since they have to travel another 400 meters before they come around again, I took the opportunity to peek at what I got... only the previews weren't yet available. OK, I wait but the little red light stayed on... and wouldn't go off... and now here the runners come again (66 seconds later) crap, there they go, and still my camera is hung up. No shooting, no previews, just a little red light. I turn off the camera. Red light remains, and on the top lcd screen, the image remaining count still shows, approx 216 shots left. Then, I forget exactly what I did -- probably turned it off on, swore at it a few times, and cheered for my runner -- but in the end, memory card error on the back screen, and a remaining image count now at 0. And then the race was over. I've never had a memory card fail on me this way... it was traumatic! I think it's just the card -- I popped another one in, and there were no other problems. Does this behavior fit the profile of sd card failures you've known? How much worse do you think I made the situation with my frantic button-pushing? ;) Thanks, -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Cards do fail, very occasionally, but it's rare. Buy premium quality cards - Sandisk Extreme, Lexar pro, etc - for reduced incidence of failures. I've never had a card fail. G On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Yesterday I was trying to catch a few shots of my guy in action at the state division track meet. I had my trusty k-5 plus 50-135 combo. I had just reformatted the sd card, and took some pics, just to chimp. So far, so good. The race started -- the one mile event -- and I shot off a burst as the runners came past me. Since they have to travel another 400 meters before they come around again, I took the opportunity to peek at what I got... only the previews weren't yet available. OK, I wait but the little red light stayed on... and wouldn't go off... and now here the runners come again (66 seconds later) crap, there they go, and still my camera is hung up. No shooting, no previews, just a little red light. I turn off the camera. Red light remains, and on the top lcd screen, the image remaining count still shows, approx 216 shots left. Then, I forget exactly what I did -- probably turned it off on, swore at it a few times, and cheered for my runner -- but in the end, memory card error on the back screen, and a remaining image count now at 0. And then the race was over. I've never had a memory card fail on me this way... it was traumatic! I think it's just the card -- I popped another one in, and there were no other problems. Does this behavior fit the profile of sd card failures you've known? How much worse do you think I made the situation with my frantic button-pushing? ;) Thanks, -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 5/27/2012 2:36 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Yesterday I was trying to catch a few shots of my guy in action at the state division track meet. I had my trusty k-5 plus 50-135 combo. I had just reformatted the sd card, and took some pics, just to chimp. So far, so good. The race started -- the one mile event -- and I shot off a burst as the runners came past me. Since they have to travel another 400 meters before they come around again, I took the opportunity to peek at what I got... only the previews weren't yet available. OK, I wait but the little red light stayed on... and wouldn't go off... and now here the runners come again (66 seconds later) crap, there they go, and still my camera is hung up. No shooting, no previews, just a little red light. I turn off the camera. Red light remains, and on the top lcd screen, the image remaining count still shows, approx 216 shots left. Then, I forget exactly what I did -- probably turned it off on, swore at it a few times, and cheered for my runner -- but in the end, memory card error on the back screen, and a remaining image count now at 0. And then the race was over. I've never had a memory card fail on me this way... it was traumatic! I think it's just the card -- I popped another one in, and there were no other problems. Does this behavior fit the profile of sd card failures you've known? How much worse do you think I made the situation with my frantic button-pushing? ;) Thanks, -c I've never had a card fail that way, I've had the case crack and the write protect tab fall out, (why the heck do we have a feature that first appeared on floppy disks, and wasn't such a good idea then still on a solid state memory device). It sounds like a reasonable error message. The camera cannot access the card, so of course the camera will report that there is space for 0 images. That doesn't rule out that the read/write device in the camera isn't defective and somehow damaged the card, but it seems much more likely that the card simply died. Like all electronics heat stress will eventually kill it. Sandisk claims a MTBF of 1,000,000 hours, I don't know what brand you use, I could find a number for Sandisk, but that's an arithmetic average, so a card could die at any time, it just has the probability of lasting about 114 years, (if I did the math correctly). -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... :/ -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 2:53 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/27/2012 2:36 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Yesterday I was trying to catch a few shots of my guy in action at the state division track meet. I had my trusty k-5 plus 50-135 combo. I had just reformatted the sd card, and took some pics, just to chimp. So far, so good. The race started -- the one mile event -- and I shot off a burst as the runners came past me. Since they have to travel another 400 meters before they come around again, I took the opportunity to peek at what I got... only the previews weren't yet available. OK, I wait but the little red light stayed on... and wouldn't go off... and now here the runners come again (66 seconds later) crap, there they go, and still my camera is hung up. No shooting, no previews, just a little red light. I turn off the camera. Red light remains, and on the top lcd screen, the image remaining count still shows, approx 216 shots left. Then, I forget exactly what I did -- probably turned it off on, swore at it a few times, and cheered for my runner -- but in the end, memory card error on the back screen, and a remaining image count now at 0. And then the race was over. I've never had a memory card fail on me this way... it was traumatic! I think it's just the card -- I popped another one in, and there were no other problems. Does this behavior fit the profile of sd card failures you've known? How much worse do you think I made the situation with my frantic button-pushing? ;) Thanks, -c I've never had a card fail that way, I've had the case crack and the write protect tab fall out, (why the heck do we have a feature that first appeared on floppy disks, and wasn't such a good idea then still on a solid state memory device). It sounds like a reasonable error message. The camera cannot access the card, so of course the camera will report that there is space for 0 images. That doesn't rule out that the read/write device in the camera isn't defective and somehow damaged the card, but it seems much more likely that the card simply died. Like all electronics heat stress will eventually kill it. Sandisk claims a MTBF of 1,000,000 hours, I don't know what brand you use, I could find a number for Sandisk, but that's an arithmetic average, so a card could die at any time, it just has the probability of lasting about 114 years, (if I did the math correctly). -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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All of the 2 gigs cards I bought for the K10 have failed, but over years of shooting and tens of thousands of read/right cycles. I won't mention the brand because I don't feel like the cards owed me anything - they simply wore out. They lasted through my K10 and K7 years and failed more recently in the K5. The failures were orderly - I'd pop in the camera and get an error message that the card was not formatted. A couple times they formatted Ok but then failed later, other times they refused to format at all. A sudden failure of what sounds like a fairly new card - like you had - is not something I have experienced. MCC On 5/27/2012 2:36 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Yesterday I was trying to catch a few shots of my guy in action at the state division track meet. I had my trusty k-5 plus 50-135 combo. I had just reformatted the sd card, and took some pics, just to chimp. So far, so good. The race started -- the one mile event -- and I shot off a burst as the runners came past me. Since they have to travel another 400 meters before they come around again, I took the opportunity to peek at what I got... only the previews weren't yet available. OK, I wait but the little red light stayed on... and wouldn't go off... and now here the runners come again (66 seconds later) crap, there they go, and still my camera is hung up. No shooting, no previews, just a little red light. I turn off the camera. Red light remains, and on the top lcd screen, the image remaining count still shows, approx 216 shots left. Then, I forget exactly what I did -- probably turned it off on, swore at it a few times, and cheered for my runner -- but in the end, memory card error on the back screen, and a remaining image count now at 0. And then the race was over. I've never had a memory card fail on me this way... it was traumatic! I think it's just the card -- I popped another one in, and there were no other problems. Does this behavior fit the profile of sd card failures you've known? How much worse do you think I made the situation with my frantic button-pushing? ;) Thanks, -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've never had a card fail. I'm a Lexar shooter, mostly. Calumet photo makes an sd card that I use and no problems there either. Cheers, Christine/Chicago On May 27, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Yesterday I was trying to catch a few shots of my guy in action at the state division track meet. I had my trusty k-5 plus 50-135 combo. I had just reformatted the sd card, and took some pics, just to chimp. So far, so good. The race started -- the one mile event -- and I shot off a burst as the runners came past me. Since they have to travel another 400 meters before they come around again, I took the opportunity to peek at what I got... only the previews weren't yet available. OK, I wait but the little red light stayed on... and wouldn't go off... and now here the runners come again (66 seconds later) crap, there they go, and still my camera is hung up. No shooting, no previews, just a little red light. I turn off the camera. Red light remains, and on the top lcd screen, the image remaining count still shows, approx 216 shots left. Then, I forget exactly what I did -- probably turned it off on, swore at it a few times, and cheered for my runner -- but in the end, memory card error on the back screen, and a remaining image count now at 0. And then the race was over. I've never had a memory card fail on me this way... it was traumatic! I think it's just the card -- I popped another one in, and there were no other problems. Does this behavior fit the profile of sd card failures you've known? How much worse do you think I made the situation with my frantic button-pushing? ;) Thanks, -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric I've had good success with the Transcend cards. The only kind that's ever failed on me was a Lexar 8GB. It was one I bought at Target in an emergency so it cost twice what it should had I purchased it online. I started noticing weird things within weeks of purchase. I've had film bind/strip on the sprocket more times than a card failure. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I seem to always buy SanDisk, and not one of them will work in a Leica M8. I just ordered a Kingston in hopes that it will work. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hmmm. Sounds like a camera problem. On May 27, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I seem to always buy SanDisk, and not one of them will work in a Leica M8. I just ordered a Kingston in hopes that it will work. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It is. My first M8 came non-functioning with a shutter fault message every time I tried to trip the shutter. It took two months to get Leica to return a phone call. I finally, through the LUG, got the email of the president of the US division of Leica, and he replaced the camera. It came non-functioning with a card error and Leica would not return my phone calls (you have to convince them that you are a professional photographer or they won't acknowledge you). I waited a year or so until the next firmware upgrade came out and that seemed to fix the problem, for about a month. It has been in a drawer until this week when I installed the latest firmware upgrade. Same problem. An error message of SD card is write protected!. When I bitched about it on the LUG (after someone referred to Leica's customer support as the best in the world), I was excoriated and ended up quitting the LUG. On a positive note, I bought a few Pentaxes and have lived happily ever after, though I lie awake some nights thinking about how much I spent on a camera that only shot about 8 frames. That's about $900 per frame, and they were just test shots. Think I can sell them on ebay? They are of my electric light meter on the side of my house, and I was using a Pentax 43 LE lens. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Hmmm. Sounds like a camera problem. On May 27, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I seem to always buy SanDisk, and not one of them will work in a Leica M8. I just ordered a Kingston in hopes that it will work. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I final note…the guys on the LUG told me that I should have been using Transcend cards (which were the cheapest SD cards at BHPhoto at the time). I bought some. They didn't work in the Leica, nor did they work more than a few weeks in the Pentax. I think they are considered to be one-use cards, like Depends undergarments. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Hmmm. Sounds like a camera problem. On May 27, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I seem to always buy SanDisk, and not one of them will work in a Leica M8. I just ordered a Kingston in hopes that it will work. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've been using PNY Class 10 cards lately, I have a number of Sandisk class 4 cards for backup. However the only two cards I had problems with were Sandisk when their cases separated and I lost the write protect tabs. I used them in the *ist-Ds with a bit of tape over the gap. The tolerances in the K20D's card slot were too tight for me to get away with that. On 5/27/2012 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsench...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Maybe the camera's a snob. On 5/27/2012 9:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Hmmm. Sounds like a camera problem. On May 27, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I seem to always buy SanDisk, and not one of them will work in a Leica M8. I just ordered a Kingston in hopes that it will work. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsench...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It occurred to me to sell it, and then ignore all of the phone calls of the shafted buyer. It wouldn't be unprecedented. I wish they would just do away with the write protect feature. It is just another thing to go wrong and require many fixes to defeat it. Regards, Jeffery _ Jeffery Smith Irish Channel, New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 9:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Maybe the camera's a snob. On 5/27/2012 9:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Hmmm. Sounds like a camera problem. On May 27, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I seem to always buy SanDisk, and not one of them will work in a Leica M8. I just ordered a Kingston in hopes that it will work. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsench...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Are you formatting the card with the camera? Jonathan [ma...@redwoodhorses.com] -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 6:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: card FAIL? Hmmm. Sounds like a camera problem. On May 27, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I seem to always buy SanDisk, and not one of them will work in a Leica M8. I just ordered a Kingston in hopes that it will work. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5025 - Release Date: 05/27/12 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: card FAIL?
Can't. It refuses to format a card that it thinks is write protected. But it would read the firmware update. Jeffery Sent from my iPad Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, Louisiana USA On May 27, 2012, at 22:33, ma...@redwoodhorses.com wrote: Are you formatting the card with the camera? Jonathan [ma...@redwoodhorses.com] -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 6:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: card FAIL? Hmmm. Sounds like a camera problem. On May 27, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I seem to always buy SanDisk, and not one of them will work in a Leica M8. I just ordered a Kingston in hopes that it will work. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5025 - Release Date: 05/27/12 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
