Re: My current prime lens A-Team
2009/7/26 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: Btw, Neither Bridge nor ACS recognises the 60-250 zoom yet. I recently purchased a Tokina AT-X 400mm f/5.6, which Bridge identifies as a 35-70mm. It's funny to open an image in ACR and read 35-70mm @ 400mm. Is that what you would call an overreaching zoom? --M. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.EnticingTheLight.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yes, after seeing what the DA* 300/4 can do I'd buy a DA* 200/2.8 in a heartbeat, if I could afford one right now. John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of paul stenquist [pnstenqu...@comcast.net] Sent: 27 July 2009 02:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: My current prime lens A-Team Yes, but the DA* is a good lens. I would think it's probably the best value you'll find in a fast 200. Paul On Jul 26, 2009, at 9:01 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: And if you can find one, Pentax made a K-200 ƒ2.5 back in the day. Probably a shitty lens. 77mm filter size. On Jul 26, 2009, at 14:46 , paul stenquist wrote: Pentax makes a DA* 200/2.8. That's quite fast for a lens of that length, and anything faster is going to be very large and very heavy. And very expensive. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com I couldn't remember most of what I know today if it weren't for others sharing their knowledge of my past on the Internet. Thank you… -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 03:33:07PM -0400, J.C. O'Connell scripsit: On Pentax digital, you are most likely going to get a lot more use out of a 135,200, or 300, than the 400. 400mm is just very very long on digital and will rarely be needed. Unless you do birds, in which case 400mm is awfully short. You must know some awfully big birds. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:12:08PM +0100, mike wilson scripsit: Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 03:33:07PM -0400, J.C. O'Connell scripsit: On Pentax digital, you are most likely going to get a lot more use out of a 135,200, or 300, than the 400. 400mm is just very very long on digital and will rarely be needed. Unless you do birds, in which case 400mm is awfully short. You must know some awfully big birds. 400mm = 40 cm ~= 16 in; less than half crow wingspan. No need to invoke swans and ostriches. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ive never tried the smcA 135/f1.8 lens, but I have used the smcK/f2.5 and the smcK/f2.5 is a fantastic lens, fairly fast, and only costs around $250 near mint, which is a small fraction of the cost of the F1.8 lens. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rob Studdert Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 11:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: My current prime lens A-Team On 26/07/2009, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: I take it that A* 135/ƒ1.8 can't be had for love nor money? That's not quite true, they do occasionally become available but for big money, far more than the photographic value IMO. It's a lovely looking piece of glass but has attained its legendary status more due to its obscurity than its performance in my opinion. I sold mine quite a few years back and never regretted the sale, it's not so hot until stopped down a bit, lots of CA and low contrast, it does look impressive though. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC +10 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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well, a quick stopgap would be a 24mm lens from Pentax. If you could get two instead, then the 20 and 28 should do the trick. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Desjardins, Steve Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:49 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: My current prime lens A-Team Some great typos here. that would be the FA 50 1.4 and the FA135 2.8. I guess it can't be a misspelling if it's numbers, can it? From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Desjardins, Steve [desjard...@wlu.edu] Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: My current prime lens A-Team I have this problem now. I have: DA14 DA40 FA10 1.4 A50 2.8 macro FA 100 2.8 macro FA125 2.8 K 300 4 I desperately need some prime lenses between 14 an 40. The 40 is bit too long in many cases and need a shorter normal. I often use the FA20-35 but I would like to get the DA21 and something in the low to mid 30's. one good results was that the FA 135 suddenly became a most useful lens with the DX format. From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of J.C. O'Connell [hifis...@gate.net] Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 5:45 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: My current prime lens A-Team well, there are exceptions to every rule I guess, but in general the further you get away from 50mm ( 33mm on digital ), the less often you are going to need it. That's why they call normal normal. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Graydon Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: My current prime lens A-Team On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 03:33:07PM -0400, J.C. O'Connell scripsit: On Pentax digital, you are most likely going to get a lot more use out of a 135,200, or 300, than the 400. 400mm is just very very long on digital and will rarely be needed. Unless you do birds, in which case 400mm is awfully short. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/7/26 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com: or ExposurePlot for windows users, http://www.cpr.demon.nl/prog_plotf.html Nice tool. Pity it's only for JPG. :-( Adobe Bridge in CS4 will provide usage statistics directly too, on the filter panel. There's a switch on the View meny that lets you see images from subfolders. Btw, Neither Bridge nor ACS recognises the 60-250 zoom yet. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The primes i use the most would be.: Sigma 300 F4 APO Pentax 77 Ltd Pentax D FA 50 f2.8 Zenitar 16 F2.8 fish eye. I have the tak versions of the 55, 105 135 and 200, but rarely use them. I should give them a try. 90 leaf and 200 tak for the 6x7 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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My excellent 135/2.5 went for $201 on ebay a couple weeks ago. Great lens, but I wasn't using it. The DA* 50-135/2.8 is at least its equal, especially wide open. Paul On Jul 26, 2009, at 1:48 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: Ive never tried the smcA 135/f1.8 lens, but I have used the smcK/f2.5 and the smcK/f2.5 is a fantastic lens, fairly fast, and only costs around $250 near mint, which is a small fraction of the cost of the F1.8 lens. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rob Studdert Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 11:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: My current prime lens A-Team On 26/07/2009, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: I take it that A* 135/ƒ1.8 can't be had for love nor money? That's not quite true, they do occasionally become available but for big money, far more than the photographic value IMO. It's a lovely looking piece of glass but has attained its legendary status more due to its obscurity than its performance in my opinion. I sold mine quite a few years back and never regretted the sale, it's not so hot until stopped down a bit, lots of CA and low contrast, it does look impressive though. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC +10 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've sold quite a few of my primes, but have kept these -- and still use them quite a bit: A 400/5.6 Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 macro SMC Pentax 85/1.8 FA 50/1.4 FA 35/2 On the wide end where the zooms are almost as fast and just as capable as the primes, I don't really need primes. I'd love to have the DA* 200/2.5 and 300/4, but they're not in the budget right now. Oh... I could use an FA 600/4 too:-). I have a number of M42 primes as well, but they're relegated to the display case. Paul On Jul 26, 2009, at 7:35 AM, David J Brooks wrote: The primes i use the most would be.: Sigma 300 F4 APO Pentax 77 Ltd Pentax D FA 50 f2.8 Zenitar 16 F2.8 fish eye. I have the tak versions of the 55, 105 135 and 200, but rarely use them. I should give them a try. 90 leaf and 200 tak for the 6x7 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 01:04:15PM +1000, Rob Studdert scripsit: On 26/07/2009, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: I take it that A* 135/ƒ1.8 can't be had for love nor money? That's not quite true, they do occasionally become available but for big money, far more than the photographic value IMO. It's a lovely looking piece of glass but has attained its legendary status more due to its obscurity than its performance in my opinion. I sold mine quite a few years back and never regretted the sale, it's not so hot until stopped down a bit, lots of CA and low contrast, it does look impressive though. That's a pity. Pentax seems to have decided that there's no reason to go faster than ƒ2.8 on digital. The only exception I can think of is the DA* 55/ƒ1.4, and it's got a sort of vast penumbra of expectation attached if it's to serve as the APS-C 85/1.4. (Oh, wait, DA 70/2.4 Ltd.) I'd like to see some much faster medium -- 100 to 150 mm -- teles; at the 77mm filter size, they ought to be able to do a 100/1.4, a 135/1.8 (just squeaking, but that's the size listed for the A* 138/1.8), or a 150/2; a DA* 150/2 Macro would be especially welcome. And, yes, perhaps I should stop trying to take pictures of wretchedly crepuscular songbirds. Or inside zoo buildings on cloudy days. Or under forest canopies. Or at the other end of long rooms inside. Or of specific members of the orchestra after the house lights have dimmed. But, well, I've been known to try all of those, and a sharp-wide-open fast medium tele -- what I suspect Pentax thinks of as a long tele -- would be really useful. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Graydon wrote: Pentax seems to have decided that there's no reason to go faster than ƒ2.8 on digital. The only exception I can think of is the DA* 55/ƒ1.4, and it's got a sort of vast penumbra of expectation attached if it's to serve as the APS-C 85/1.4. (Oh, wait, DA 70/2.4 Ltd.) I'd like to see some much faster medium -- 100 to 150 mm -- teles; at the 77mm filter size, they ought to be able to do a 100/1.4, a 135/1.8 (just squeaking, but that's the size listed for the A* 138/1.8), or a 150/2; a DA* 150/2 Macro would be especially welcome. Oh man! I'd be willing to walk barefoot across crushed glass (SMC or otherwise) to get a DA*135/1.8. I think Pentax has just decided that *most* people would prefer glass they can hand-hold (or monopod) *most* of the time. Such lenses balance nicely with smaller lighter bodies like the K-7. The DA*50-135 mounted on a K20D is just at the limit of what I can tolerate hand-holding for an hour or so. Though I imagine that a DA*135/1.8 would actually weigh less than that. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Graydono...@uniserve.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 01:04:15PM +1000, Rob Studdert scripsit: On 26/07/2009, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: I take it that A* 135/ƒ1.8 can't be had for love nor money? That's not quite true, they do occasionally become available but for big money, far more than the photographic value IMO. It's a lovely looking piece of glass but has attained its legendary status more due to its obscurity than its performance in my opinion. I sold mine quite a few years back and never regretted the sale, it's not so hot until stopped down a bit, lots of CA and low contrast, it does look impressive though. That's a pity. Pentax seems to have decided that there's no reason to go faster than ƒ2.8 on digital. The only exception I can think of is the DA* 55/ƒ1.4, and it's got a sort of vast penumbra of expectation attached if it's to serve as the APS-C 85/1.4. (Oh, wait, DA 70/2.4 Ltd.) I'd like to see some much faster medium -- 100 to 150 mm -- teles; at the 77mm filter size, they ought to be able to do a 100/1.4, a 135/1.8 (just squeaking, but that's the size listed for the A* 138/1.8), or a 150/2; a DA* 150/2 Macro would be especially welcome. And, yes, perhaps I should stop trying to take pictures of wretchedly crepuscular songbirds. Or inside zoo buildings on cloudy days. Or under forest canopies. Or at the other end of long rooms inside. Or of specific members of the orchestra after the house lights have dimmed. But, well, I've been known to try all of those, and a sharp-wide-open fast medium tele -- what I suspect Pentax thinks of as a long tele -- would be really useful. -- Graydon Is AF a requirement? If not I can think of 7 different current-production lenses that fit your requirements. of course none are Pentax's. All are KA mount. They are: Cosina/Voigtlander: Ultron 40mm f2 Aspherical Pancake Nokton 58mm f1.4 Zeiss ZK: Distagon 28mm f2 Distagon 35mm f2 Makro-Planar 50mm f2 Planar 50mm f1.4 Planar 85mm f1.4 Makro-Planar 100mm f2 Samyang: 85mm f1.4 Aspherical (also sold under a variety of other names such as Vivitar and Phoenix) The Zeiss 35mm f2 and 100mm f2 are arguably the finest lenses ever sold at those focal length/aperture combinations. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 04:55:47PM -0400, Bruce Walker scripsit: Graydon wrote: Pentax seems to have decided that there's no reason to go faster than ƒ2.8 on digital. The only exception I can think of is the DA* 55/ƒ1.4, and it's got a sort of vast penumbra of expectation attached if it's to serve as the APS-C 85/1.4. (Oh, wait, DA 70/2.4 Ltd.) I'd like to see some much faster medium -- 100 to 150 mm -- teles; at the 77mm filter size, they ought to be able to do a 100/1.4, a 135/1.8 (just squeaking, but that's the size listed for the A* 138/1.8), or a 150/2; a DA* 150/2 Macro would be especially welcome. Oh man! I'd be willing to walk barefoot across crushed glass (SMC or otherwise) to get a DA*135/1.8. I don't think I'd go quite as far as crushed glass, but I'd certainly be willing to pay DA* prices for them. :) I think Pentax has just decided that *most* people would prefer glass they can hand-hold (or monopod) *most* of the time. This does fit with the shake-reduction-is-a-tripod-replacement marketing story, and it's not like carrying a worthwhile tripod fills anybody's soul with joy in the first place. Such lenses balance nicely with smaller lighter bodies like the K-7. The DA*50-135 mounted on a K20D is just at the limit of what I can tolerate hand-holding for an hour or so. Though I imagine that a DA*135/1.8 would actually weigh less than that. I would hope! The A* 138/1.8 is listed as 865 g; the DA* 50-135 at 765g. So I think it's reasonable to expect that a DA* 135/1.8 could be done for no heavier than the 50-135. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 05:03:36PM -0400, Adam Maas scripsit: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Graydono...@uniserve.com wrote: [snip] And, yes, perhaps I should stop trying to take pictures of wretchedly crepuscular songbirds. Or inside zoo buildings on cloudy days. Or under forest canopies. Or at the other end of long rooms inside. Or of specific members of the orchestra after the house lights have dimmed. But, well, I've been known to try all of those, and a sharp-wide-open fast medium tele -- what I suspect Pentax thinks of as a long tele -- would be really useful. Is AF a requirement? Nice, but not necessary. If not I can think of 7 different current-production lenses that fit your requirements. of course none are Pentax's. All are KA mount. Well, one of the requirements is _length_ -- 100 to 200 mm. [snip] Makro-Planar 100mm f2 [snip] The Zeiss 35mm f2 and 100mm f2 are arguably the finest lenses ever sold at those focal length/aperture combinations. Which is why the ZK 100/2 is on the list right after the 60-250. Oddly enough, it doesn't look like anyone makes a really sharp 200/2 in KA mount. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Graydono...@uniserve.com wrote: Oddly enough, it doesn't look like anyone makes a really sharp 200/2 in KA mount. -- Graydon If you want a fast 180-200, the Summicron-R 180/2 is one of the best out there and can be converted to K mount via a Leitax adapter (as can the Contax 180/2, but it isn't nearly as good). There are only a few 180-200 f2 or faster lenses out there and none were natively K mount. The best option for a fast K mount lens in the 180-200 range is the Tamron SP 180/2.5 or Angeniuex 180/2.3. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Pentax makes a DA* 200/2.8. That's quite fast for a lens of that length, and anything faster is going to be very large and very heavy. And very expensive. Paul On Jul 26, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Graydon wrote: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 05:03:36PM -0400, Adam Maas scripsit: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Graydono...@uniserve.com wrote: [snip] And, yes, perhaps I should stop trying to take pictures of wretchedly crepuscular songbirds. Or inside zoo buildings on cloudy days. Or under forest canopies. Or at the other end of long rooms inside. Or of specific members of the orchestra after the house lights have dimmed. But, well, I've been known to try all of those, and a sharp-wide- open fast medium tele -- what I suspect Pentax thinks of as a long tele -- would be really useful. Is AF a requirement? Nice, but not necessary. If not I can think of 7 different current-production lenses that fit your requirements. of course none are Pentax's. All are KA mount. Well, one of the requirements is _length_ -- 100 to 200 mm. [snip] Makro-Planar 100mm f2 [snip] The Zeiss 35mm f2 and 100mm f2 are arguably the finest lenses ever sold at those focal length/aperture combinations. Which is why the ZK 100/2 is on the list right after the 60-250. Oddly enough, it doesn't look like anyone makes a really sharp 200/2 in KA mount. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 05:23:57PM -0400, Adam Maas scripsit: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Graydono...@uniserve.com wrote: Oddly enough, it doesn't look like anyone makes a really sharp 200/2 in KA mount. If you want a fast 180-200, the Summicron-R 180/2 is one of the best out there At ~ 4 kCAD, one would hope! :) and can be converted to K mount via a Leitax adapter (as can the Contax 180/2, but it isn't nearly as good). There are only a few 180-200 f2 or faster lenses out there and none were natively K mount. The best option for a fast K mount lens in the 180-200 range is the Tamron SP 180/2.5 or Angeniuex 180/2.3. Thank you! One of the truly good things about the PDML is finding out about useful things one had no idea existed. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oddly enough, it doesn't look like anyone makes a really sharp 200/2 in KA mount. If you want a fast 180-200, the Summicron-R 180/2 is one of the best out there At ~ 4 kCAD, one would hope! :) and can be converted to K mount via a Leitax adapter (as can the Contax 180/2, but it isn't nearly as good). There are only a few 180-200 f2 or faster lenses out there and none were natively K mount. The best option for a fast K mount lens in the 180-200 range is the Tamron SP 180/2.5 or Angeniuex 180/2.3. Thank you! One of the truly good things about the PDML is finding out about useful things one had no idea existed. -- Graydon Zeiss makes (or made until recently) a 200/2 in Contax MM mount. It could probably have been fitted to a Pentax body with appropriate adapters. Although if you were paying that much money for a lens it would probably make more sense just to buy a Contax body to put it on. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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the tamron adaptall2 spif 200mm f2.5 is a steal sleeper. You can get one for around $400 in nice shape and it's a phenomenally good performer. Definitely better than the Pentax SMCK 200/2.5 which had more CA. You can get a KA mount for it, so the only thing lacking is AF for some people. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 5:54 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: My current prime lens A-Team Oddly enough, it doesn't look like anyone makes a really sharp 200/2 in KA mount. If you want a fast 180-200, the Summicron-R 180/2 is one of the best out there At ~ 4 kCAD, one would hope! :) and can be converted to K mount via a Leitax adapter (as can the Contax 180/2, but it isn't nearly as good). There are only a few 180-200 f2 or faster lenses out there and none were natively K mount. The best option for a fast K mount lens in the 180-200 range is the Tamron SP 180/2.5 or Angeniuex 180/2.3. Thank you! One of the truly good things about the PDML is finding out about useful things one had no idea existed. -- Graydon Zeiss makes (or made until recently) a 200/2 in Contax MM mount. It could probably have been fitted to a Pentax body with appropriate adapters. Although if you were paying that much money for a lens it would probably make more sense just to buy a Contax body to put it on. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Zeiss makes (or made until recently) a 200/2 in Contax MM mount. It could probably have been fitted to a Pentax body with appropriate adapters. Although if you were paying that much money for a lens it would probably make more sense just to buy a Contax body to put it on. Bob Note the Summicron is both easier to find and a superior performer. And it has a conversion kit available, which the Contax does not. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Graydono...@uniserve.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 05:23:57PM -0400, Adam Maas scripsit: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Graydono...@uniserve.com wrote: Oddly enough, it doesn't look like anyone makes a really sharp 200/2 in KA mount. If you want a fast 180-200, the Summicron-R 180/2 is one of the best out there At ~ 4 kCAD, one would hope! :) $4k is competitive for a 180 or 200 f2. That's about what you'd pay for the Nikkor or Canon 200/2's. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 07:03:55PM -0400, Adam Maas scripsit: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Graydono...@uniserve.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 05:23:57PM -0400, Adam Maas scripsit: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Graydono...@uniserve.com wrote: Oddly enough, it doesn't look like anyone makes a really sharp 200/2 in KA mount. If you want a fast 180-200, the Summicron-R 180/2 is one of the best out there At ~ 4 kCAD, one would hope! :) $4k is competitive for a 180 or 200 f2. That's about what you'd pay for the Nikkor or Canon 200/2's. Oh, certainly -- I'm not saying it's excessive, I was more asserting a belief that the price point does not admit of a so-so lens. Your basic central Canadian focus on value for money. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 06:33:55PM -0400, J.C. O'Connell scripsit: the tamron adaptall2 spif 200mm f2.5 is a steal sleeper. You can get one for around $400 in nice shape and it's a phenomenally good performer. Definitely better than the Pentax SMCK 200/2.5 which had more CA. You can get a KA mount for it, so the only thing lacking is AF for some people. Good to know! -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 26, 2009, at 14:12 , Graydon wrote: This does fit with the shake-reduction-is-a-tripod-replacement marketing story, and it's not like carrying a worthwhile tripod fills anybody's soul with joy in the first place. Here's my deal on that. Once you've mounted a large/long lens on your camera body and zoomed it to it's longest focal length, then tripod mounted it, if will hook over your shoulder, you should take a tripod with you and use it. Otherwise, hand holding is OK. If it doesn’t excite you, This thing that you see, Why in the world, Would it excite me? —Jay Maisel Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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And if you can find one, Pentax made a K-200 ƒ2.5 back in the day. Probably a shitty lens. 77mm filter size. On Jul 26, 2009, at 14:46 , paul stenquist wrote: Pentax makes a DA* 200/2.8. That's quite fast for a lens of that length, and anything faster is going to be very large and very heavy. And very expensive. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com I couldn't remember most of what I know today if it weren't for others sharing their knowledge of my past on the Internet. Thank you… -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yes, but the DA* is a good lens. I would think it's probably the best value you'll find in a fast 200. Paul On Jul 26, 2009, at 9:01 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: And if you can find one, Pentax made a K-200 ƒ2.5 back in the day. Probably a shitty lens. 77mm filter size. On Jul 26, 2009, at 14:46 , paul stenquist wrote: Pentax makes a DA* 200/2.8. That's quite fast for a lens of that length, and anything faster is going to be very large and very heavy. And very expensive. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com I couldn't remember most of what I know today if it weren't for others sharing their knowledge of my past on the Internet. Thank you… -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 09:23:09PM -0400, paul stenquist scripsit: Yes, but the DA* is a good lens. I would think it's probably the best value you'll find in a fast 200. I have no doubt of this. (Pentax is generally the best value, after all, and people have had good things to say about the DA* 200 specifically.) And, realistically, it's also the lens to get for the niche. But being unrealistically hopeful in this thread has made me much more informed than I would otherwise be, so it's at least that much of a win. :) (And that 180mm Leica Summicron-R looks amazing, even if affording it would take rather a lot of time and planning.) -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 24/7/09, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: My actual working kit consists of: CV S-W-Heliar 15/4.5 CV Ultron 28/1.9 Canon 50mm f1.5 To which camera do these attach? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hello. Mine is slightly different line up: DA 21/3.2 limited FA 31/1.8 limited FA 43/1.9 limited A 50/1.2 (practically unlimited, wonder of a lens, truly) FA 77/1.8 limited FA 100/3.5 macro Used only when zoom is necessary: Tamron 28-75/2.8 (letter salad omitted for brevity) Soon to arrive (mostly for my daughter Galia) FA 50/1.4 I usually take with me just one lens, or at most two if I am not exactly sure what I am going to do. On a trip I take with me 3 lenses, one mounted on the camera, and two in the bag. Boris J.C. O'Connell wrote: How does this sound for a prime lens setup from 18-300mm for Pentax DSLR? 18 - smck f3.5 28 - smck f3.5 50 - smcA f1.4 85 - smck f1.8 120- smck f2.8 180- tamron spif f2.5 300- smcA* f4.0 kinda expensive, not very light or compact but workable. Just don't wanna get the bag lost or stolen for sure! I might wanna add a 14mm later. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I should have mentioned, this 7 lens kit is the anything and everything kit, so I can shoot whatever with the best possible quality. If I know exactly what I am going to do and its limited to only say, near the wide to normal end, I might carry the 18,20,24,28,35mm only. Well, you get the point. The 7 mentioned were just the widest possible range with the most quality, and kept total lenses to a reasonable number. FWIW, if I could only carry/use one prime for lightness and readyness, it would be a 28mm F3.5 SMCK or possibly the 24mm F3.5 SMCK lens but that's another subject matter. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- J.C. O'Connell wrote: How does this sound for a prime lens setup from 18-300mm for Pentax DSLR? 18 - smck f3.5 28 - smck f3.5 50 - smcA f1.4 85 - smck f1.8 120- smck f2.8 180- tamron spif f2.5 300- smcA* f4.0 kinda expensive, not very light or compact but workable. Just don't wanna get the bag lost or stolen for sure! I might wanna add a 14mm later. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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For now, usual kit (which I brought to Lisbon, a week ago) is as follows: Sigma 28/1.8 EX FA 50/1.4 DA 16-45 DA 50-200 DA 40 Limited When weight isn't an issue, my lovely K30/2.8 will go in the bag as well. I'll see if I'll change anything now with both WR kit lenses. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Cottycotty...@mac.com wrote: On 24/7/09, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: My actual working kit consists of: CV S-W-Heliar 15/4.5 CV Ultron 28/1.9 Canon 50mm f1.5 To which camera do these attach? -- Cheers, Cotty G1 and/or Bessa R -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ooh; ooh, I'm going to guess Leica. Cotty wrote: On 24/7/09, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: My actual working kit consists of: CV S-W-Heliar 15/4.5 CV Ultron 28/1.9 Canon 50mm f1.5 To which camera do these attach? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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All right since everyone else is doing this I guess I'll chime in. smc Pentax 17mm fisheye smc Pentax A 24mm f2.8 smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 limited smc Pentax M 50mm f1.4, or 55mm f1.8, (if I want to feel traditional) smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0 smc Pentax 135mm f2.5 smc Pentax A* 300mm f4.0 vmc Vivitar Series 1 Solid Cat 600mm I usually only carry the 24, 43, and 85 if I'm carrying primes. J.C. O'Connell wrote: How does this sound for a prime lens setup from 18-300mm for Pentax DSLR? 18 - smck f3.5 28 - smck f3.5 50 - smcA f1.4 85 - smck f1.8 120- smck f2.8 180- tamron spif f2.5 300- smcA* f4.0 kinda expensive, not very light or compact but workable. Just don't wanna get the bag lost or stolen for sure! I might wanna add a 14mm later. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ok, so I was wrong, a poor man's Leica. (Like I could justify owning a Bessa R, it looks like a lovely camera from everything I've read), Adam Maas wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Cottycotty...@mac.com wrote: On 24/7/09, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: My actual working kit consists of: CV S-W-Heliar 15/4.5 CV Ultron 28/1.9 Canon 50mm f1.5 To which camera do these attach? -- Cheers, Cotty G1 and/or Bessa R -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 7:31 AM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, so I was wrong, a poor man's Leica. (Like I could justify owning a Bessa R, it looks like a lovely camera from everything I've read), Not only a great little camera, but _cheap_. I got mine as NOS for $340CDN. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Adam Maas wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 7:31 AM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, so I was wrong, a poor man's Leica. (Like I could justify owning a Bessa R, it looks like a lovely camera from everything I've read), Not only a great little camera, but _cheap_. I got mine as NOS for $340CDN. Geez, last time I was looking at them the price for a used one was twice that. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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A 20mm f2.8 FA 31mm f1.8 LTD A 50mm f1.4 A* 85mm f1.4 VS1 105mm f2.5 Macro A 400mm f5.6 Usually only the 31 and the 85 come along with me. Every once in a while I take the 20 or the 50. The 400 is almost never used and will probably be sold and replaced with a DA* series long prime, probably the 200 or 300. - Original Message From: J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 10:33:39 AM Subject: My current prime lens A-Team How does this sound for a prime lens setup from 18-300mm for Pentax DSLR? 18 - smck f3.5 28 - smck f3.5 50 - smcA f1.4 85 - smck f1.8 120- smck f2.8 180- tamron spif f2.5 300- smcA* f4.0 kinda expensive, not very light or compact but workable. Just don't wanna get the bag lost or stolen for sure! I might wanna add a 14mm later. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/7/25 Brendan MacRae brendanmacrae1...@yahoo.com: A 20mm f2.8 FA 31mm f1.8 LTD A 50mm f1.4 A* 85mm f1.4 VS1 105mm f2.5 Macro A 400mm f5.6 Usually only the 31 and the 85 come along with me. Every once in a while I take the 20 or the 50. The 400 is almost never used and will probably be sold and replaced with a DA* series long prime, probably the 200 or 300. Brendan, That is a very nice, LBA-less kit. I envy the A* 85...but you knew that. Why don't you wait for the DA* 400mm f/5.6? ;-) Cheers, --M. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.EnticingTheLight.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/7/25 William Robb war...@gmail.com: I kinda have 3 kits now. Good point. :-) My lens park is not as extensive as Robb's, so I constantly have to make subsets of what I have to suit the occasion. The first lens to be considered is of course the 600. Weighing what it does. However the only prime lenses that are guaranteed a place are the 200 macro and the 14mm because their functions are not duplicated by zooms. I noticed the 60-250 figured in two of mr. Robb's kits too. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Miserere wrote: 2009/7/25 Brendan MacRae brendanmacrae1...@yahoo.com: A 20mm f2.8 FA 31mm f1.8 LTD A 50mm f1.4 A* 85mm f1.4 VS1 105mm f2.5 Macro A 400mm f5.6 Usually only the 31 and the 85 come along with me. Every once in a while I take the 20 or the 50. The 400 is almost never used and will probably be sold and replaced with a DA* series long prime, probably the 200 or 300. Brendan, That is a very nice, LBA-less kit. I envy the A* 85...but you knew that. Why don't you wait for the DA* 400mm f/5.6? ;-) Cheers, --M. Dear M. I'm drawing a blank on LBA. Please convert to the long form for me... keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Keith Whaleykeit...@dslextreme.com wrote: Dear M. I'm drawing a blank on LBA. Please convert to the long form for me... keith whaley Lens Buying Addiction -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Pentax digital, you are most likely going to get a lot more use out of a 135,200, or 300, than the 400. 400mm is just very very long on digital and will rarely be needed. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Miserere Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 12:32 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: My current prime lens A-Team 2009/7/25 Brendan MacRae brendanmacrae1...@yahoo.com: A 20mm f2.8 FA 31mm f1.8 LTD A 50mm f1.4 A* 85mm f1.4 VS1 105mm f2.5 Macro A 400mm f5.6 Usually only the 31 and the 85 come along with me. Every once in a while I take the 20 or the 50. The 400 is almost never used and will probably be sold and replaced with a DA* series long prime, probably the 200 or 300. Brendan, That is a very nice, LBA-less kit. I envy the A* 85...but you knew that. Why don't you wait for the DA* 400mm f/5.6? ;-) Cheers, --M. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.EnticingTheLight.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 7/25/09, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Keith Whaleykeit...@dslextreme.com wrote: Dear M. I'm drawing a blank on LBA. Please convert to the long form for me... keith whaley Lens Buying Addiction LBA is one of the two required ingredients for a successful enablement. The other being money. Some people like a dash of encouragement in theirs, while others are simply content to top the finished dish with a healthy dose of gloat. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Adam Maas wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Keith Whaleykeit...@dslextreme.com wrote: Dear M. I'm drawing a blank on LBA. Please convert to the long form for me... keith whaley Lens Buying Addiction Boy. THAT's a reach. I would never have got it! Thanks, keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Scott Loveless wrote: On 7/25/09, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Keith Whaleykeit...@dslextreme.com wrote: Dear M. I'm drawing a blank on LBA. Please convert to the long form for me... keith whaley Lens Buying Addiction LBA is one of the two required ingredients for a successful enablement. The other being money. Some people like a dash of encouragement in theirs, while others are simply content to top the finished dish with a healthy dose of gloat. Heh, heh... been guilty of both (all three?) from time to time. keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 03:33:07PM -0400, J.C. O'Connell scripsit: On Pentax digital, you are most likely going to get a lot more use out of a 135,200, or 300, than the 400. 400mm is just very very long on digital and will rarely be needed. Unless you do birds, in which case 400mm is awfully short. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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well, there are exceptions to every rule I guess, but in general the further you get away from 50mm ( 33mm on digital ), the less often you are going to need it. That's why they call normal normal. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Graydon Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: My current prime lens A-Team On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 03:33:07PM -0400, J.C. O'Connell scripsit: On Pentax digital, you are most likely going to get a lot more use out of a 135,200, or 300, than the 400. 400mm is just very very long on digital and will rarely be needed. Unless you do birds, in which case 400mm is awfully short. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 05:45:08PM -0400, J.C. O'Connell scripsit: -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Graydon On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 03:33:07PM -0400, J.C. O'Connell scripsit: On Pentax digital, you are most likely going to get a lot more use out of a 135,200, or 300, than the 400. 400mm is just very very long on digital and will rarely be needed. Unless you do birds, in which case 400mm is awfully short. well, there are exceptions to every rule I guess, but in general the further you get away from 50mm ( 33mm on digital ), the less often you are going to need it. That's why they call normal normal. Normal is normal for taking pictures where you want it to look roughly like what someone would see if they were standing where the camera was when it took that picture. While this is a whole lot of how people take pictures, and even more of where the emotional responses are, it's not *all* of how people take pictures. I find I use normal lengths less often than longer -- the FA100 gets as much use as everything shorter combined -- and while this is doubtless a side effect of not being all that interested in taking pictures of people, I don't think it's an indication of doing something wrong. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I stand by what I said, the *FURTHER** you get away from normal, the less often you need it. Sure, ultrawides and ultrateles have their uses on occasion, but not nearly as often as moderate wides and teles. I didn't mean to imply the normal lens is the best or most useful, its just the further and further you get away from normal, the less often its going be what you need. My post was made in the context of a 600mm lens on digital, while maybe useful for birds, its just going to be too long for nearly everything else. That's a very specialty focal length. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Graydon Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 5:57 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: My current prime lens A-Team On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 05:45:08PM -0400, J.C. O'Connell scripsit: -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Graydon On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 03:33:07PM -0400, J.C. O'Connell scripsit: On Pentax digital, you are most likely going to get a lot more use out of a 135,200, or 300, than the 400. 400mm is just very very long on digital and will rarely be needed. Unless you do birds, in which case 400mm is awfully short. well, there are exceptions to every rule I guess, but in general the further you get away from 50mm ( 33mm on digital ), the less often you are going to need it. That's why they call normal normal. Normal is normal for taking pictures where you want it to look roughly like what someone would see if they were standing where the camera was when it took that picture. While this is a whole lot of how people take pictures, and even more of where the emotional responses are, it's not *all* of how people take pictures. I find I use normal lengths less often than longer -- the FA100 gets as much use as everything shorter combined -- and while this is doubtless a side effect of not being all that interested in taking pictures of people, I don't think it's an indication of doing something wrong. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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one thing I don't understand here, and that is that taking a lot of people pictures would incur MORE use of a longer lens like 100mm, not the shorter ones. Normal and wide lenses generally are no-no's for people photos. Your saying you don't use the normal and short lenes because you don't do much people shots, but if you did, you would use the longer lenses even more wouldn't you? -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Graydon Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 5:57 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: My current prime lens A-Team On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 05:45:08PM -0400, J.C. O'Connell scripsit: -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Graydon On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 03:33:07PM -0400, J.C. O'Connell scripsit: On Pentax digital, you are most likely going to get a lot more use out of a 135,200, or 300, than the 400. 400mm is just very very long on digital and will rarely be needed. Unless you do birds, in which case 400mm is awfully short. well, there are exceptions to every rule I guess, but in general the further you get away from 50mm ( 33mm on digital ), the less often you are going to need it. That's why they call normal normal. Normal is normal for taking pictures where you want it to look roughly like what someone would see if they were standing where the camera was when it took that picture. While this is a whole lot of how people take pictures, and even more of where the emotional responses are, it's not *all* of how people take pictures. I find I use normal lengths less often than longer -- the FA100 gets as much use as everything shorter combined -- and while this is doubtless a side effect of not being all that interested in taking pictures of people, I don't think it's an indication of doing something wrong. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 25, 2009, at 13:13 , Scott Loveless wrote: Lens Buying Addiction LBA is one of the two required ingredients for a successful enablement. The other being money. Some people like a dash of encouragement in theirs, while others are simply content to top the finished dish with a healthy dose of gloat. OK. I won't gloat. Just a list. :-) Pentax SMC-P DA 14mm ƒ2.8 ED (IF) Sigma MC-A15mm ƒ2.8 Fish-Eye Pentax SMCP-A 15mm ƒ3.5 Pentax SMC-P 17mm ƒ4.0 Fish-Eye Pentax SMCP-A 20mm ƒ2.8 Pentax SMCP-DA 21mm ƒ3.2 AL Limited (B) Pentax SMCP-FA*24mm ƒ2.0 not yet replaced Pentax SMCP-A 24mm ƒ2.8 Pentax SMCP-A 28mm ƒ2.8 Pentax SMCP 28mm ƒ3.5 Shift Pentax SMCP-F28mm ƒ2.8 Pentax SMCP-FA 31mm ƒ1.8 Limited (B) Pentax SMCP-A 35mm ƒ2.0 Pentax SMCP-M 40mm ƒ2.8 Pentax SMCP-A 50mm ƒ1.4 Pentax SMCP-F50mm ƒ1.7 Pentax SMCP-M 50mm ƒ2.0 Pentax SMCP-A 50mm ƒ2.8 Macro Pentax SMCP-K 55mm ƒ1.8 Pentax SMCP-DA 70mm ƒ2.4 Limited Pentax SMCP-FA 77mm ƒ1.8 Limited Pentax SMCP 85mm ƒ2.2 Soft Pentax SMCP-FA* 85mm ƒ1.4 not yet replaced Pentax SMCP-FA 100mm ƒ2.8 Macro not yet replaced Pentax SMCP-D FA 100mm ƒ2.8 Macro Pentax SMCP-A* 135mm ƒ1.8not yet replacedwon't be Pentax SMCP-A 135mm ƒ2.8 Pentax SMCP 200mm ƒ2.5 Pentax SMCP-A 200mm ƒ4.0 Pentax SMCP-DA* 200mm ƒ2.8 ED (IF) SDM Pentax SMCP-A* 300mm ƒ4.0 Tamron SP AF 300mm ƒ2.8 LD (IF) Celestron 300mm ƒ5.6 SCT Celestron 500mm ƒ5.6 MTO Sigma 600mm ƒ8.0 SCT Meade 1000mm ƒ10.0 SCT Celestron 2000mm ƒ10.0 SCT My daily carry around lens has now become the DA*60-250 ƒ4.0, replacing the DA 18-250, for my daily sessions at the dog park. If I'm out and about for some other reason at some other time, I drag along: DA 12-24 DA 21mm Ltd. DA 31mm Ltd. DA 70mm Ltd. D FA 100mm Macro and the 60-250 attached to the camera. Otherwise, I take an appropriate kit for the intended. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com Gaudeamus igitur, juvenes dum sumus... http://tinyurl.com/me52my -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 03:37:08PM -0700, Joseph McAllister scripsit: OK. I won't gloat. Just a list. :-) [snip] Pentax SMCP-FA*24mm ƒ2.0not yet replaced Pentax SMCP-FA* 85mm ƒ1.4 not yet replaced Pentax SMCP-FA 100mm ƒ2.8 Macro not yet replaced Pentax SMCP-A* 135mm ƒ1.8 not yet replacedwon't be [more snip] And these would need replacing why, precisely? -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 25, 2009, at 15:46 , Graydon wrote: [snip] Pentax SMCP-FA*24mm ƒ2.0not yet replaced Pentax SMCP-FA* 85mm ƒ1.4 not yet replaced Pentax SMCP-FA 100mm ƒ2.8 Macro not yet replaced Pentax SMCP-A* 135mm ƒ1.8 not yet replacedwon't be [more snip] And these would need replacing why, precisely? They were all stolen out of my car last October, along with most of my 67 kit, and the A15ƒ3.5, and the K28ƒ3.5 Shift. Where you been?:-) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ It is still true, as was first said many years ago, that people are the only sophisticated computing devices that can be made at low cost by unskilled workers!” — Martin G. Wolf, PhD -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Maybe he lost them. Personally I'd kill to have the A* 135 and the FA*24 in my kit. The FA*85 would be nice too, but I think I'd rather have the A*85 Graydon wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 03:37:08PM -0700, Joseph McAllister scripsit: OK. I won't gloat. Just a list. :-) [snip] Pentax SMCP-FA*24mm ƒ2.0not yet replaced Pentax SMCP-FA* 85mm ƒ1.4 not yet replaced Pentax SMCP-FA 100mm ƒ2.8 Macro not yet replaced Pentax SMCP-A* 135mm ƒ1.8 not yet replacedwon't be [more snip] And these would need replacing why, precisely? -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Heck I didn't list my full kit, just my most used prime lenses. I have three kits, two made up primarily of zooms or varifocals, and one that is basicly the 24 43 and 85 with additions or replacements depending on the conditions I expect to encounter. AlunFoto wrote: 2009/7/25 William Robb war...@gmail.com: I kinda have 3 kits now. Good point. :-) My lens park is not as extensive as Robb's, so I constantly have to make subsets of what I have to suit the occasion. The first lens to be considered is of course the 600. Weighing what it does. However the only prime lenses that are guaranteed a place are the 200 macro and the 14mm because their functions are not duplicated by zooms. I noticed the 60-250 figured in two of mr. Robb's kits too. :-) Jostein -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 03:52:02PM -0700, Joseph McAllister scripsit: On Jul 25, 2009, at 15:46 , Graydon wrote: [snip] Pentax SMCP-FA*24mm ƒ2.0not yet replaced Pentax SMCP-FA* 85mm ƒ1.4 not yet replaced Pentax SMCP-FA 100mm ƒ2.8 Macro not yet replaced Pentax SMCP-A* 135mm ƒ1.8 not yet replacedwon't be [more snip] And these would need replacing why, precisely? They were all stolen out of my car last October, along with most of my 67 kit, and the A15ƒ3.5, and the K28ƒ3.5 Shift. Where you been?:-) Wasn't here then! Sorry for your loss, and to have misunderstood; I thought you intended to replace them, in the sense of getting rid of them for something else, not replace in the sense of have to get it again. I take it that A* 135/ƒ1.8 can't be had for love nor money? -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 06:20:23PM -0400, J.C. O'Connell scripsit: one thing I don't understand here, and that is that taking a lot of people pictures would incur MORE use of a longer lens like 100mm, not the shorter ones. Normal and wide lenses generally are no-no's for people photos. Your saying you don't use the normal and short lenes because you don't do much people shots, but if you did, you would use the longer lenses even more wouldn't you? The limited people-shooting I do is all indoor candids -- meaning, pictures of neeves and siblings at family gatherings -- and gets done with the 31, 50, and 77 almost exclusively, an awful lot with the 31 (which is normalish on a K20D). Posed portraits go up, traditionally, to 135mm, at least as I understand it; candid street shots are generally normal or slightly tele, again as I understand it/have seen going by here. (There seems to exist the occasional exception like the fellow who was shooting 800mm/ƒ4 medium format because he wanted completely candid, they have no notion there's a photographer on this block, candid photographs.) -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I have this problem now. I have: DA14 DA40 FA10 1.4 A50 2.8 macro FA 100 2.8 macro FA125 2.8 K 300 4 I desperately need some prime lenses between 14 an 40. The 40 is bit too long in many cases and need a shorter normal. I often use the FA20-35 but I would like to get the DA21 and something in the low to mid 30's. one good results was that the FA 135 suddenly became a most useful lens with the DX format. From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of J.C. O'Connell [hifis...@gate.net] Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 5:45 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: My current prime lens A-Team well, there are exceptions to every rule I guess, but in general the further you get away from 50mm ( 33mm on digital ), the less often you are going to need it. That's why they call normal normal. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Graydon Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: My current prime lens A-Team On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 03:33:07PM -0400, J.C. O'Connell scripsit: On Pentax digital, you are most likely going to get a lot more use out of a 135,200, or 300, than the 400. 400mm is just very very long on digital and will rarely be needed. Unless you do birds, in which case 400mm is awfully short. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Some great typos here. that would be the FA 50 1.4 and the FA135 2.8. I guess it can't be a misspelling if it's numbers, can it? From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Desjardins, Steve [desjard...@wlu.edu] Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: My current prime lens A-Team I have this problem now. I have: DA14 DA40 FA10 1.4 A50 2.8 macro FA 100 2.8 macro FA125 2.8 K 300 4 I desperately need some prime lenses between 14 an 40. The 40 is bit too long in many cases and need a shorter normal. I often use the FA20-35 but I would like to get the DA21 and something in the low to mid 30's. one good results was that the FA 135 suddenly became a most useful lens with the DX format. From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of J.C. O'Connell [hifis...@gate.net] Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 5:45 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: My current prime lens A-Team well, there are exceptions to every rule I guess, but in general the further you get away from 50mm ( 33mm on digital ), the less often you are going to need it. That's why they call normal normal. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Graydon Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: My current prime lens A-Team On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 03:33:07PM -0400, J.C. O'Connell scripsit: On Pentax digital, you are most likely going to get a lot more use out of a 135,200, or 300, than the 400. 400mm is just very very long on digital and will rarely be needed. Unless you do birds, in which case 400mm is awfully short. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Wow. You just made my really should hate him list. ;-) From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Joseph McAllister [pentax...@mac.com] Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 6:37 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: My current prime lens A-Team On Jul 25, 2009, at 13:13 , Scott Loveless wrote: Lens Buying Addiction LBA is one of the two required ingredients for a successful enablement. The other being money. Some people like a dash of encouragement in theirs, while others are simply content to top the finished dish with a healthy dose of gloat. OK. I won't gloat. Just a list. :-) Pentax SMC-P DA 14mm ƒ2.8 ED (IF) Sigma MC-A15mm ƒ2.8 Fish-Eye Pentax SMCP-A 15mm ƒ3.5 Pentax SMC-P 17mm ƒ4.0 Fish-Eye Pentax SMCP-A 20mm ƒ2.8 Pentax SMCP-DA 21mm ƒ3.2 AL Limited (B) Pentax SMCP-FA*24mm ƒ2.0 not yet replaced Pentax SMCP-A 24mm ƒ2.8 Pentax SMCP-A 28mm ƒ2.8 Pentax SMCP 28mm ƒ3.5 Shift Pentax SMCP-F28mm ƒ2.8 Pentax SMCP-FA 31mm ƒ1.8 Limited (B) Pentax SMCP-A 35mm ƒ2.0 Pentax SMCP-M 40mm ƒ2.8 Pentax SMCP-A 50mm ƒ1.4 Pentax SMCP-F50mm ƒ1.7 Pentax SMCP-M 50mm ƒ2.0 Pentax SMCP-A 50mm ƒ2.8 Macro Pentax SMCP-K 55mm ƒ1.8 Pentax SMCP-DA 70mm ƒ2.4 Limited Pentax SMCP-FA 77mm ƒ1.8 Limited Pentax SMCP 85mm ƒ2.2 Soft Pentax SMCP-FA* 85mm ƒ1.4 not yet replaced Pentax SMCP-FA 100mm ƒ2.8 Macro not yet replaced Pentax SMCP-D FA 100mm ƒ2.8 Macro Pentax SMCP-A* 135mm ƒ1.8not yet replacedwon't be Pentax SMCP-A 135mm ƒ2.8 Pentax SMCP 200mm ƒ2.5 Pentax SMCP-A 200mm ƒ4.0 Pentax SMCP-DA* 200mm ƒ2.8 ED (IF) SDM Pentax SMCP-A* 300mm ƒ4.0 Tamron SP AF 300mm ƒ2.8 LD (IF) Celestron 300mm ƒ5.6 SCT Celestron 500mm ƒ5.6 MTO Sigma 600mm ƒ8.0 SCT Meade 1000mm ƒ10.0 SCT Celestron 2000mm ƒ10.0 SCT My daily carry around lens has now become the DA*60-250 ƒ4.0, replacing the DA 18-250, for my daily sessions at the dog park. If I'm out and about for some other reason at some other time, I drag along: DA 12-24 DA 21mm Ltd. DA 31mm Ltd. DA 70mm Ltd. D FA 100mm Macro and the 60-250 attached to the camera. Otherwise, I take an appropriate kit for the intended. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com Gaudeamus igitur, juvenes dum sumus... http://tinyurl.com/me52my -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I was going to ask if you'd been taking spelling lessons from Brooks, but I guess you've been taking typing lessons from me. Desjardins, Steve wrote: Some great typos here. that would be the FA 50 1.4 and the FA135 2.8. I guess it can't be a misspelling if it's numbers, can it? From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Desjardins, Steve [desjard...@wlu.edu] Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: My current prime lens A-Team I have this problem now. I have: DA14 DA40 FA10 1.4 A50 2.8 macro FA 100 2.8 macro FA125 2.8 K 300 4 I desperately need some prime lenses between 14 an 40. The 40 is bit too long in many cases and need a shorter normal. I often use the FA20-35 but I would like to get the DA21 and something in the low to mid 30's. one good results was that the FA 135 suddenly became a most useful lens with the DX format. From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of J.C. O'Connell [hifis...@gate.net] Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 5:45 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: My current prime lens A-Team well, there are exceptions to every rule I guess, but in general the further you get away from 50mm ( 33mm on digital ), the less often you are going to need it. That's why they call normal normal. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Graydon Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: My current prime lens A-Team On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 03:33:07PM -0400, J.C. O'Connell scripsit: On Pentax digital, you are most likely going to get a lot more use out of a 135,200, or 300, than the 400. 400mm is just very very long on digital and will rarely be needed. Unless you do birds, in which case 400mm is awfully short. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My current prime lens A-Team
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 06:11:00PM -0400, J.C. O'Connell scripsit:
I stand by what I said, the *FURTHER** you get away from
normal, the less often you need it. Sure, ultrawides and ultrateles
have their uses on occasion, but not nearly as often as moderate wides
and teles. I didn't mean to imply the normal lens is the best or most
useful, its just the further and further you get away from normal, the
less often its going be what you need.
I seem to be peculiar with respect to this principle.
If I change to the 2009 directory, which has everything by month and
then day directories in it, I can use:
for x in */*/*dng; do echo `exiftool -FocalLength $x` lengths; done
to get a list of all the focal lengths used so far this year. (This
takes awhile.)
sort -u lengths unique_lengths
gets me the individual focal lengths; there are 25, ranging from 0
(really a telescope) to 800mm. Stuffing that through a quick bit of
perl [1] gives me, after a bit of hand-sorting (500 sorts right after
50, etc.), and some column tweaking:
Total 7645 shots so far in 2009
Focal Length# of shots
14.0 mm 9
31.0 mm295
35.0 mm399
50.0 mm282
55.0 mm274
62.5 mm 18
70.0 mm110
77.0 mm546
77.5 mm 42
87.5 mm 60
97.5 mm 65
100.0 mm 1287
107.5 mm101
120.0 mm 47
135.0 mm 38
150.0 mm 37
170.0 mm 97
190.0 mm100
210.0 mm171
230.0 mm 92
260.0 mm 86
300.0 mm 1259
0.0 mm134 [2]
500.0 mm596
800.0 mm 1500
[2] Celestron 80mm ED spotting scope; listed focal length 480mm
Whatever I am doing, I'm not following the further from normal the less
use rule.
My post was made in the context of a 600mm lens on digital, while
maybe useful for birds, its just going to be too long for nearly
everything else. That's a very specialty focal length.
Oh, I agree, but I am coming to think that pretty much everybody is a
speciality photographer.
[1] Just in case anyone might want it:
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
#
# deliver us from evil
use warnings;
use strict;
use Tie::File;
my $shots = /home/graydon/photo/K20D/2009/lengths;
my $focal = /home/graydon/photo/K20D/2009/unique_lengths;
my $leader = Focal Length : ;
tie my @AllShots, 'Tie::File', $shots or die Could not open file
$shots\n$!\$?\n;
tie my @lengths, 'Tie::File', $focal or die Could not open file
$focal\n$!\$?\n;
for my $length (@lengths) {
my $uses = grep { /$length/ } @AllShots;
$length =~ s/$leader//;
print $length,:,$uses,\n;
};
untie @AllShots;
untie @lengths;
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Re: My current prime lens A-Team
On 26/07/2009, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
[1] Just in case anyone might want it:
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
#
# deliver us from evil
use warnings;
use strict;
use Tie::File;
my $shots = /home/graydon/photo/K20D/2009/lengths;
my $focal = /home/graydon/photo/K20D/2009/unique_lengths;
my $leader = Focal Length : ;
tie my @AllShots, 'Tie::File', $shots or die Could not open file
$shots\n$!\$?\n;
tie my @lengths, 'Tie::File', $focal or die Could not open file
$focal\n$!\$?\n;
for my $length (@lengths) {
my $uses = grep { /$length/ } @AllShots;
$length =~ s/$leader//;
print $length,:,$uses,\n;
};
untie @AllShots;
untie @lengths;
or ExposurePlot for windows users, http://www.cpr.demon.nl/prog_plotf.html
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Re: My current prime lens A-Team
On 26/07/2009, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: I take it that A* 135/ƒ1.8 can't be had for love nor money? That's not quite true, they do occasionally become available but for big money, far more than the photographic value IMO. It's a lovely looking piece of glass but has attained its legendary status more due to its obscurity than its performance in my opinion. I sold mine quite a few years back and never regretted the sale, it's not so hot until stopped down a bit, lots of CA and low contrast, it does look impressive though. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC +10 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 25, 2009, at 17:52 , Desjardins, Steve wrote: Wow. You just made my really should hate him list. ;-) You may hate. It's ok. Just don't ask to borrow! :-) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com Gaudeamus igitur, juvenes dum sumus... http://tinyurl.com/me52my -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
My current prime lens A-Team
How does this sound for a prime lens setup from 18-300mm for Pentax DSLR? 18 - smck f3.5 28 - smck f3.5 50 - smcA f1.4 85 - smck f1.8 120- smck f2.8 180- tamron spif f2.5 300- smcA* f4.0 kinda expensive, not very light or compact but workable. Just don't wanna get the bag lost or stolen for sure! I might wanna add a 14mm later. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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So long as it's not me carrying your bag, I don't see a problem with it :-) But you wouldn't have these all on you at all times, right? Have you considered an FA 20mm f/2.8? Or are you wanting to keep it all manual focus? --M. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.EnticingTheLight.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 2009/7/24 J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net: How does this sound for a prime lens setup from 18-300mm for Pentax DSLR? 18 - smck f3.5 28 - smck f3.5 50 - smcA f1.4 85 - smck f1.8 120- smck f2.8 180- tamron spif f2.5 300- smcA* f4.0 kinda expensive, not very light or compact but workable. Just don't wanna get the bag lost or stolen for sure! I might wanna add a 14mm later. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: My current prime lens A-Team
I'm currently using the following with a Sigma 10-20 EX Dc to cover the wide end: Sigma AF 24mm/2.8 Super Wide SMC Pentax FA 28mm/2.8 SMC Pentax FA 35mm/2 SMC Pentax FA 50mm/1.4 SMC Pentax DA 70mm/2.4 Limited Tamron AF 90mm/2.8 Di SMC Pentax FA 135mm/2.8 SMC Pentax DA* 300mm/4 Tamron 1.4x AF TC Hopefully I'll get the SMC Pentax DA* 200mm/2.8 sometime soon, I was thinking about the the DA 15mm/4 at one point but decided it was too expensive for what it offered, so I'll be keeping the Sigma zoom for the foreseeable future. I also use the Sigma with the following as a second kit: Sigma 24-70/2.8 EX DG Sigma 70-200/2.8 EX Sigma 300/4 APO Macro Super Sigma 1.4x EX TC Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of J.C. O'Connell [hifis...@gate.net] Sent: 24 July 2009 18:33 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: My current prime lens A-Team How does this sound for a prime lens setup from 18-300mm for Pentax DSLR? 18 - smck f3.5 28 - smck f3.5 50 - smcA f1.4 85 - smck f1.8 120- smck f2.8 180- tamron spif f2.5 300- smcA* f4.0 kinda expensive, not very light or compact but workable. Just don't wanna get the bag lost or stolen for sure! I might wanna add a 14mm later. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I like tend to favor FF manual focus optics for now. NO, I don't carry all these all the time, I have many other prime and zoom combos but if I had to cover widest range at best possible quality, this would be it for now. My minimal kit is a 18mm prime smck f3.5 24-50/A F4 70-210/a F4 300 A* F4 Zooms would cut down on this all prime kit quite a bit, and many of them are indeed quite sharp, but they are generally not in same class as these from a contrast/tonal range standpoint. One thing I have learned with lenses is that you may not always be able to see or exploit the better sharpness of a sharper lens but you can almost always see and exploit the better tonal range/contrast of a better contrast range/ better tonality lens. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Miserere Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 2:53 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: My current prime lens A-Team So long as it's not me carrying your bag, I don't see a problem with it :-) But you wouldn't have these all on you at all times, right? Have you considered an FA 20mm f/2.8? Or are you wanting to keep it all manual focus? --M. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.EnticingTheLight.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 2009/7/24 J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net: How does this sound for a prime lens setup from 18-300mm for Pentax DSLR? 18 - smck f3.5 28 - smck f3.5 50 - smcA f1.4 85 - smck f1.8 120- smck f2.8 180- tamron spif f2.5 300- smcA* f4.0 kinda expensive, not very light or compact but workable. Just don't wanna get the bag lost or stolen for sure! I might wanna add a 14mm later. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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that's a nice setup, but its more lenses than I would want to carry along or risk losing. I have lenses in nearly every fl from 15mm to 1000mm but I wouldn't want to bring them all with me. That's why I spaced it out to seven total and even that's pushing it in terms of number of lenses to carry along. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Whittingham Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 3:29 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: My current prime lens A-Team I'm currently using the following with a Sigma 10-20 EX Dc to cover the wide end: Sigma AF 24mm/2.8 Super Wide SMC Pentax FA 28mm/2.8 SMC Pentax FA 35mm/2 SMC Pentax FA 50mm/1.4 SMC Pentax DA 70mm/2.4 Limited Tamron AF 90mm/2.8 Di SMC Pentax FA 135mm/2.8 SMC Pentax DA* 300mm/4 Tamron 1.4x AF TC Hopefully I'll get the SMC Pentax DA* 200mm/2.8 sometime soon, I was thinking about the the DA 15mm/4 at one point but decided it was too expensive for what it offered, so I'll be keeping the Sigma zoom for the foreseeable future. I also use the Sigma with the following as a second kit: Sigma 24-70/2.8 EX DG Sigma 70-200/2.8 EX Sigma 300/4 APO Macro Super Sigma 1.4x EX TC Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of J.C. O'Connell [hifis...@gate.net] Sent: 24 July 2009 18:33 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: My current prime lens A-Team How does this sound for a prime lens setup from 18-300mm for Pentax DSLR? 18 - smck f3.5 28 - smck f3.5 50 - smcA f1.4 85 - smck f1.8 120- smck f2.8 180- tamron spif f2.5 300- smcA* f4.0 kinda expensive, not very light or compact but workable. Just don't wanna get the bag lost or stolen for sure! I might wanna add a 14mm later. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi John I rarely carry anything longer than the 135 on a regular basis, unless I'm shooting motorsport or wildlife. I sometimes replace the FA 135 and 1.4 TC with the F 70-210 zoom or Tamron 70-300 LD Di. The Tamron is actually sharper than the F 70-210 and works really well with the 1.4 TC if needed, it forms a part of my light travel kit with the DA 18-55 II zoom. FYI I find the SMCK 18mm/3.5 a little disappointing on digital, at least on the K10D and K20D. Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of J.C. O'Connell [hifis...@gate.net] Sent: 24 July 2009 20:44 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: My current prime lens A-Team that's a nice setup, but its more lenses than I would want to carry along or risk losing. I have lenses in nearly every fl from 15mm to 1000mm but I wouldn't want to bring them all with me. That's why I spaced it out to seven total and even that's pushing it in terms of number of lenses to carry along. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Whittingham Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 3:29 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: My current prime lens A-Team I'm currently using the following with a Sigma 10-20 EX Dc to cover the wide end: Sigma AF 24mm/2.8 Super Wide SMC Pentax FA 28mm/2.8 SMC Pentax FA 35mm/2 SMC Pentax FA 50mm/1.4 SMC Pentax DA 70mm/2.4 Limited Tamron AF 90mm/2.8 Di SMC Pentax FA 135mm/2.8 SMC Pentax DA* 300mm/4 Tamron 1.4x AF TC Hopefully I'll get the SMC Pentax DA* 200mm/2.8 sometime soon, I was thinking about the the DA 15mm/4 at one point but decided it was too expensive for what it offered, so I'll be keeping the Sigma zoom for the foreseeable future. I also use the Sigma with the following as a second kit: Sigma 24-70/2.8 EX DG Sigma 70-200/2.8 EX Sigma 300/4 APO Macro Super Sigma 1.4x EX TC Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of J.C. O'Connell [hifis...@gate.net] Sent: 24 July 2009 18:33 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: My current prime lens A-Team How does this sound for a prime lens setup from 18-300mm for Pentax DSLR? 18 - smck f3.5 28 - smck f3.5 50 - smcA f1.4 85 - smck f1.8 120- smck f2.8 180- tamron spif f2.5 300- smcA* f4.0 kinda expensive, not very light or compact but workable. Just don't wanna get the bag lost or stolen for sure! I might wanna add a 14mm later. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks for your reply, J.C. I hope you didn't take my comment the wrong way! :-) Just to prove that I understand your plight (oh do I understand it), here is my prime kit: FA 20mm f/2.8 Kiron 24mm f/2 P/KA Sigma EX DG 24mm f/1.8 Vivitar (Kiron) 28mm f/2 P/KA FA 31mm f/1.8 Ltd FA 50mm f/1.4 A 50mm f/1.2 FA 77mm f/1.8 Ltd Sigma EX DG 105mm f/2.8 macro Cosina 135mm f/2.8 Vivitar Series 1 (Komine) 200mm f/3.0 Tokina AT-X 400mm f/5.6 I don't carry them all at the same time either! Hmmm... looking at that list I'm starting to think that maybe...just maybe...I might be coming down with a bit of LBA ;-) I do have some zooms, which I generally favour for convinience, but sometimes I'm just in the mood for prime shooting. Plus I only use primes when doing indoor shooting, which I do a lot of. One thing I have learned with lenses is that you may not always be able to see or exploit the better sharpness of a sharper lens but you can almost always see and exploit the better tonal range/contrast of a better contrast range/ better tonality lens. Quite true, J.C.! Cheers, --M. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.EnticingTheLight.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My current prime lens A-Team
Okay I'll bite: DA 14 FA 31 FA 43 FA 77 A* 200 macro DA 300 FA* 600 Jostein 2009/7/24 Miserere miser...@gmail.com: Thanks for your reply, J.C. I hope you didn't take my comment the wrong way! :-) Just to prove that I understand your plight (oh do I understand it), here is my prime kit: FA 20mm f/2.8 Kiron 24mm f/2 P/KA Sigma EX DG 24mm f/1.8 Vivitar (Kiron) 28mm f/2 P/KA FA 31mm f/1.8 Ltd FA 50mm f/1.4 A 50mm f/1.2 FA 77mm f/1.8 Ltd Sigma EX DG 105mm f/2.8 macro Cosina 135mm f/2.8 Vivitar Series 1 (Komine) 200mm f/3.0 Tokina AT-X 400mm f/5.6 I don't carry them all at the same time either! Hmmm... looking at that list I'm starting to think that maybe...just maybe...I might be coming down with a bit of LBA ;-) I do have some zooms, which I generally favour for convinience, but sometimes I'm just in the mood for prime shooting. Plus I only use primes when doing indoor shooting, which I do a lot of. One thing I have learned with lenses is that you may not always be able to see or exploit the better sharpness of a sharper lens but you can almost always see and exploit the better tonal range/contrast of a better contrast range/ better tonality lens. Quite true, J.C.! Cheers, --M. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.EnticingTheLight.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My current prime lens A-Team
I generally carry one zoom, the 18-250. The lenses I prefer to use are the primes I carry with me: FA 31/1.8 DA 40/2.8 (probably my most fun lens to use) PFA 50/1.4 FA 77 Tamron 90/2.5 macro (my DFA 50/2.8 comes in closer, but the tammy makes prettier pictures) A* 200/2.8 I haven't been using my 135/2.5 as often lately and it got bumped from my bag in favor of the 200. I really need to get some lenses wider than the 31, when money permits. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 7/24/09, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: So long as it's not me carrying your bag, I don't see a problem with it :-) But you wouldn't have these all on you at all times, right? Have you considered an FA 20mm f/2.8? Or are you wanting to keep it all manual focus? My current kit consists of, let's see, an M 50/2 and a, well, that's about it. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Scott Lovelesssdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/24/09, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: So long as it's not me carrying your bag, I don't see a problem with it :-) But you wouldn't have these all on you at all times, right? Have you considered an FA 20mm f/2.8? Or are you wanting to keep it all manual focus? My current kit consists of, let's see, an M 50/2 and a, well, that's about it. -- Scott Loveless My Pentax kit consists of: Tamron SP 17/3.5 Tamron 28/2.5 Super-Takumar 35/3.5 S-M-C Takumar 50/1.4 Tamron SP 90/2.5 Macro My actual working kit consists of: CV S-W-Heliar 15/4.5 CV Ultron 28/1.9 Canon 50mm f1.5 -Adam I don't really do the zoom thing anymore. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My current prime lens A-Team
At 7:51 PM -0400 7/24/09, Scott Loveless wrote: On 7/24/09, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: So long as it's not me carrying your bag, I don't see a problem with it :-) But you wouldn't have these all on you at all times, right? Have you considered an FA 20mm f/2.8? Or are you wanting to keep it all manual focus? My current kit consists of, let's see, an M 50/2 and a, well, that's about it. I try to tailor my kit to what I think I'll be photographing. Of course I'm always wrong. -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 24, 2009, at 17:02 , Steve Sharpe wrote: I try to tailor my kit to what I think I'll be photographing. Of course I'm always wrong. MARK! Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My current prime lens A-Team
- Original Message - From: AlunFoto Subject: Re: My current prime lens A-Team Okay I'll bite: DA 14 FA 31 FA 43 FA 77 A* 200 macro DA 300 FA* 600 I kinda have 3 kits now. I won't necessarily be carrying them all, but the bag I have with me will have either of the following: DA14/2.8 (soon to become the 15/4 LTD thanks to the kindness of some good people who bought those lenses from me) 21 LTD A24/2.8 31LTD or FA35/2 DA*55/1.4 70LTD or 77 LTD 60-250/4. Or: A15/3.5 A20/2.8 A35/2 A50/1.4 A*85/1.4 K105/2.8 A135/2.8 60-250. My long kit, in a seperate bag, doesn't get out as often as it should. FA200/4 Macro f*300/4.5 A400/5.6 A*600/5.6 VW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My current prime lens A-Team
I'll chime in with my prime set - A*200 macro FA300 f4.5 FA600 f4.0 Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: William Robb war...@gmail.com Subject: Re: My current prime lens A-Team - Original Message - From: AlunFoto Subject: Re: My current prime lens A-Team Okay I'll bite: DA 14 FA 31 FA 43 FA 77 A* 200 macro DA 300 FA* 600 I kinda have 3 kits now. I won't necessarily be carrying them all, but the bag I have with me will have either of the following: DA14/2.8 (soon to become the 15/4 LTD thanks to the kindness of some good people who bought those lenses from me) 21 LTD A24/2.8 31LTD or FA35/2 DA*55/1.4 70LTD or 77 LTD 60-250/4. Or: A15/3.5 A20/2.8 A35/2 A50/1.4 A*85/1.4 K105/2.8 A135/2.8 60-250. My long kit, in a seperate bag, doesn't get out as often as it should. FA200/4 Macro f*300/4.5 A400/5.6 A*600/5.6 VW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
