Re: Cat Photo

[Jack Davis]

This appears to be one fed up feline,
Nicole!
Nice timing!

J

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> On Jun 9, 2016, at 10:36 PM, David Mann  wrote:
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> I initially interpreted that as saying you have at least 10 cats.
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Nicole Jacque  wrote:
>> 
>> I think that for every decent shot of my cats, I have at least 10, featuring 
>> close ups of their nose, blurry images of them suddenly leaping out of the 
>> picture, etc.
>> 
>> But hey, any excuse to post a cat photo: https://flic.kr/p/HRp2i5
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Re: Cat Photo

[Nicole Jacque]

No, no, trust me, 3 are enough cats for me.  Although Archer almost counts as 
two.

> On Jun 9, 2016, at 10:36 PM, David Mann  wrote:
> 
> I initially interpreted that as saying you have at least 10 cats.
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Nicole Jacque  wrote:
>> 
>> I think that for every decent shot of my cats, I have at least 10, featuring 
>> close ups of their nose, blurry images of them suddenly leaping out of the 
>> picture, etc.
>> 
>> But hey, any excuse to post a cat photo: https://flic.kr/p/HRp2i5
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Re: Cat Photo

[David Mann]

I initially interpreted that as saying you have at least 10 cats.

> On Jun 10, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Nicole Jacque  wrote:
> 
> I think that for every decent shot of my cats, I have at least 10, featuring 
> close ups of their nose, blurry images of them suddenly leaping out of the 
> picture, etc.
> 
> But hey, any excuse to post a cat photo: https://flic.kr/p/HRp2i5



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Re: Cat Photo

[Nicole Jacque]

I think that for every decent shot of my cats, I have at least 10, featuring 
close ups of their nose, blurry images of them suddenly leaping out of the 
picture, etc.

But hey, any excuse to post a cat photo: https://flic.kr/p/HRp2i5

> On Jun 8, 2016, at 6:37 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> Nice looking feline, not unlike our 'Blackjack':
> 
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/IMGP3193peso.html
> 
> Black cats rule!!
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
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> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016, at 10:10 AM, John wrote:
>> I managed to take photos of Baxter. She won't sit still anywhere but in
>> my lap, so she's kind of hard to photograph.
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/27451840062/
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>> I'm working on my laptop, trying to get it set up with Photoshop CS5 &
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>> 
>> Anyway, just fiddled with the photo to check out whether the Nik filters
>> worked after I installed them. I figure a cat photo is as good as
>> anything else for a test.
>> 
>> The photo has Analog Effects to make it look like old film; a channel
>> mixer red-blue swap to give it a faux IR look and then a high detail
>> Silver Efex Pro filter applied. I saw a presentation Monday where the
>> presenter suggested IR photos made a good basis for B conversions, so
>> I figured I'd play with it.
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Re: Cat Photo

[Brian Walters]

Nice looking feline, not unlike our 'Blackjack':

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/IMGP3193peso.html

Black cats rule!!


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> I managed to take photos of Baxter. She won't sit still anywhere but in
> my lap, so she's kind of hard to photograph.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/27451840062/
> 
> I'm working on my laptop, trying to get it set up with Photoshop CS5 &
> Nik filters. The laptop just doesn't have the power to run CS6 & I don't
> want CC.
> 
> Anyway, just fiddled with the photo to check out whether the Nik filters
> worked after I installed them. I figure a cat photo is as good as
> anything else for a test.
> 
> The photo has Analog Effects to make it look like old film; a channel
> mixer red-blue swap to give it a faux IR look and then a high detail
> Silver Efex Pro filter applied. I saw a presentation Monday where the
> presenter suggested IR photos made a good basis for B conversions, so
> I figured I'd play with it.
> 
> I'm going ahead applying all the Windoze Update files to Windoze 7 to
> get it ready to attempt Windoze 10.
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Re: Cat photo

[Bruce Walker]

Ha!  +1  :-)

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Fenway appears not to have given you permission to take that.

 Jack
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 Here's our little guy Fenway, age 9 months:
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Re: Cat photo

[Christine Aguila]

Nice! Great name too!  Cheers, Christine



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 Here's our little guy Fenway, age 9 months:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dc01723.jpg
 
 Yeah, I'm bored tonight...
 
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RE: Cat photo

[mary pitrone]

Looks like you woke the cat from a sleep. Nice

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 Ha!
 
 Terrific shot!
 
 That cat has a wise look beyond its young age. 
 
 Cheers,
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 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dc01723.jpg
 
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Re: Cat photo

[Mark Roberts]

Bruce Walker wrote:

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Fenway appears not to have given you permission to take that.

Ha!  +1  :-)

Oh, he looks all haughty and imperious, but he's the most skittish and
fearful cat I've ever known - really very sad. We adopted him and his
brother from an animal rescue group who picked them up abandoned at
around 10-11 weeks age. We don't know what happened to them but it
must have been fairly traumatic judging by their behavior. Fenway in
particular is afraid of just about everything, though he's getting
gradually more social. His brother Muddlety is much more outgoing,
though still totally afraid of strangers.

 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dc01723.jpg
 
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Re: Cat photo

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On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 11:56:43AM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Bruce Walker wrote:
 
 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Fenway appears not to have given you permission to take that.
 
 Ha!  +1  :-)
 
 Oh, he looks all haughty and imperious, but he's the most skittish and
 fearful cat I've ever known - really very sad. We adopted him and his
 brother from an animal rescue group who picked them up abandoned at
 around 10-11 weeks age. We don't know what happened to them but it
 must have been fairly traumatic judging by their behavior. Fenway in
 particular is afraid of just about everything, though he's getting
 gradually more social. His brother Muddlety is much more outgoing,
 though still totally afraid of strangers.

Hang in there.  We have a family of tabbies that were like that for
the first six years.  Then suddenly, about a year ago, one of them
ventured up onto the bed at night (although after a short while
he had to jump back down in case something sneaked up on him).
Now two of them spend the night (and a good part of the day) on the
bed, and the third one stops by for a quarter of an hour at bedtime,
and the same again (or a little longer) in the morning.

There again, we've also got another cat we got a year after them.
In all that time I've never managed to pick her up, and only very
rarely been able to stroke her (and then only for a few seconds).
I describe her as a cat who lives with us, not a cat that we own.

When we got her she was no more than six or seven weeks old, and
we know her full history.  The shelter volunteer who had her from
a few days old to when we took her is one of the best nurturers
I have known, so there is nothing in her background that would in
any way explain this - she's just an anti-social creature.o

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Re: Cat photo

[David J Brooks]

Wonderful shot. MJ would love this one

Dave

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Re: Cat photo

[Ann Sanfedele]

Sweet photo and I look forward to remeeting Fenway in person

annsan is BACK!

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Re: Cat photo

[kwaller]

Great pose of a pretty cat.

My only nit - I'd like the LH side of the face to be more brightly 
illuminated.


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Subject: Cat photo



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Re: Cat photo

[P. J. Alling]

The expression on the cat's face is pure cat though.

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Yeah, I'm bored tonight...




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Re: Cat photo

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I HATE cat photos, but that is a very nice image.
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Re: Cat photo

[Walter Hamler]

Too Cute!! I am a cat lover BTW.

Walt

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Re: Cat photo

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Too Cute!!



ditto


I am a cat lover BTW.



ditto



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I HATE cat photos, but that is a very nice image.
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Here's our little guy Fenway, age 9 months:
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Yeah, I'm bored tonight...

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RE: Cat photo

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Nice cat capture... Wish mine would stay in one spot when I get down to get
an eye level capture she comes over for some loving.


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Re: Cat photo

[Steven Desjardins]

You caught a very cattish expression.

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 Nice cat capture... Wish mine would stay in one spot when I get down to get
 an eye level capture she comes over for some loving.

 
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Re: Cat photo

[Walt Gilbert]

On 4/5/2012 7:31 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Here's our little guy Fenway, age 9 months:
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Yeah, I'm bored tonight...


Well, he's a great-looking cat -- a lot like mine, only back in the 70's.

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Re: Cat photo

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Mark, that is a nicely done cat photo, Joe



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RE: Cat photo

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Ha!

Terrific shot!

That cat has a wise look beyond its young age. 

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RE: Cat photo

[Jim King]

Jeffery Johnson wrote on Thu, 05 Apr 2012 18:37:47 -0700

 Nice cat capture... Wish mine would stay in one spot when I get down to get
 an eye level capture she comes over for some loving.

Ain't it the truth!  Our cat has become so camera shy that unless she is 
sleeping or I creep up on her unawares I can't get a decent shot any more.

Regards, Jim

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Re: Cat photo

[Jack Davis]

Fenway appears not to have given you permission to take that.
 
Jack
From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com
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Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 5:31 PM
Subject: Cat photo

Here's our little guy Fenway, age 9 months:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dc01723.jpg

Yeah, I'm bored tonight...

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RE: Cat photo

[John Sessoms]

From: Mark Roberts

Our little friend Zephyr died Saturday ant age 17+
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/

I've always been more of a dog person myself, but since meeting Lisa
and her cats I've come to the conclusion that it's the owner and how
they raise the pet that makes the difference. Zephyr was the
friendliest, most affectionate cats I've ever known. He used to follow
me around like a puppy at times. He'd had chronic pancreatitis for
years and then eventually became diabetic, requiring twice-daily
insulin injections. He also has asthma, with occasional noisy
mid-night coughing attacks. He had a good, long life and was
definitely high maintenance but we still miss the little guy.


I'm sorry for your loss. I know what it's like to lose a little buddy 
like that.



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Re: Cat photo

[Christine Aguila]

Lovely photographic tribute, Mark.  Sorry for your loss.  Christine


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Subject: Cat photo



Our little friend Zephyr died Saturday ant age 17+
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/

I've always been more of a dog person myself, but since meeting Lisa
and her cats I've come to the conclusion that it's the owner and how
they raise the pet that makes the difference. Zephyr was the
friendliest, most affectionate cats I've ever known. He used to follow
me around like a puppy at times. He'd had chronic pancreatitis for
years and then eventually became diabetic, requiring twice-daily
insulin injections. He also has asthma, with occasional noisy
mid-night coughing attacks. He had a good, long life and was
definitely high maintenance but we still miss the little guy.

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Re: Cat photo

[David Mann]

On Jun 29, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Our little friend Zephyr died Saturday ant age 17+
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/

That's a lovely photo (I like the tail) and very sad news.  Sounds like he was 
a lucky kitty for having such caring servants.

Cheers,
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Re: Cat photo

[Boris Liberman]

On 6/29/2011 01:17, Mark Roberts wrote:

Our little friend Zephyr died Saturday ant age 17+
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/

I've always been more of a dog person myself, but since meeting Lisa
and her cats I've come to the conclusion that it's the owner and how
they raise the pet that makes the difference. Zephyr was the
friendliest, most affectionate cats I've ever known. He used to follow
me around like a puppy at times. He'd had chronic pancreatitis for
years and then eventually became diabetic, requiring twice-daily
insulin injections. He also has asthma, with occasional noisy
mid-night coughing attacks. He had a good, long life and was
definitely high maintenance but we still miss the little guy.


Sorry to hear that, Mark. It is always sad to loose a four-legged friend...

Boris

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Re: Cat photo

[Larry Colen]

On Jun 28, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Our little friend Zephyr died Saturday ant age 17+
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/

Nice photo.

 
 I've always been more of a dog person myself, but since meeting Lisa
 and her cats I've come to the conclusion that it's the owner and how
 they raise the pet that makes the difference. Zephyr was the
 friendliest, most affectionate cats I've ever known. He used to follow
 me around like a puppy at times. He'd had chronic pancreatitis for
 years and then eventually became diabetic, requiring twice-daily
 insulin injections. He also has asthma, with occasional noisy
 mid-night coughing attacks. He had a good, long life and was
 definitely high maintenance but we still miss the little guy.

And you'll continue to do so for quite a while.

Losing a pet is very much like losing family.  My condolences.

 
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Re: Cat photo

[Carlos R.]

I'm sory about your loss, Mark. He reminds me of one of my cats, who 
died last 28th of December, mine was smaller in size (it was a female), 
but Zephyr's eyes and face are nearly identical to my cat's, she was 
called Dona. We still miss her a lot.


El 29/06/2011 0:17, Mark Roberts escribió:

Our little friend Zephyr died Saturday ant age 17+
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/

I've always been more of a dog person myself, but since meeting Lisa
and her cats I've come to the conclusion that it's the owner and how
they raise the pet that makes the difference. Zephyr was the
friendliest, most affectionate cats I've ever known. He used to follow
me around like a puppy at times. He'd had chronic pancreatitis for
years and then eventually became diabetic, requiring twice-daily
insulin injections. He also has asthma, with occasional noisy
mid-night coughing attacks. He had a good, long life and was
definitely high maintenance but we still miss the little guy.




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Re: Cat photo

[Miserere]

On 28 June 2011 18:17, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Our little friend Zephyr died Saturday ant age 17+
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/

 I've always been more of a dog person myself, but since meeting Lisa
 and her cats I've come to the conclusion that it's the owner and how
 they raise the pet that makes the difference. Zephyr was the
 friendliest, most affectionate cats I've ever known. He used to follow
 me around like a puppy at times. He'd had chronic pancreatitis for
 years and then eventually became diabetic, requiring twice-daily
 insulin injections. He also has asthma, with occasional noisy
 mid-night coughing attacks. He had a good, long life and was
 definitely high maintenance but we still miss the little guy.

 --
 Mark Roberts - Photography  Multimedia
 www.robertstech.com


Is Zephyr the guy I met? He *was* friendly by cat standards. I'm sure
he's happy now, chasing dogs around cat heaven.


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Re: Cat photo

[David J Brooks]

That is sad to hear Mark. They do grow onus don't they.

Dave

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Our little friend Zephyr died Saturday ant age 17+
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/

 I've always been more of a dog person myself, but since meeting Lisa
 and her cats I've come to the conclusion that it's the owner and how
 they raise the pet that makes the difference. Zephyr was the
 friendliest, most affectionate cats I've ever known. He used to follow
 me around like a puppy at times. He'd had chronic pancreatitis for
 years and then eventually became diabetic, requiring twice-daily
 insulin injections. He also has asthma, with occasional noisy
 mid-night coughing attacks. He had a good, long life and was
 definitely high maintenance but we still miss the little guy.

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Re: Cat photo

[steve harley]

On 2011-06-28 16:17 , Mark Roberts wrote:

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my sympathies ... that is a hauntingly beautiful photo, capturing the 
grace of an older cat


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Re: Cat photo

[Bruce Walker]

On 11-06-28 6:17 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Our little friend Zephyr died Saturday ant age 17+
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/

I've always been more of a dog person myself, but since meeting Lisa
and her cats I've come to the conclusion that it's the owner and how
they raise the pet that makes the difference. Zephyr was the
friendliest, most affectionate cats I've ever known. He used to follow
me around like a puppy at times. He'd had chronic pancreatitis for
years and then eventually became diabetic, requiring twice-daily
insulin injections. He also has asthma, with occasional noisy
mid-night coughing attacks. He had a good, long life and was
definitely high maintenance but we still miss the little guy.


My heartfelt condolences, Mark.  That's a wonderful portrait of Zephyr.

-bmw

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Re: Cat photo

[Brian Walters]

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:17 -0400, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com
wrote:
 Our little friend Zephyr died Saturday ant age 17+
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/
 
 I've always been more of a dog person myself, but since meeting Lisa
 and her cats I've come to the conclusion that it's the owner and how
 they raise the pet that makes the difference. Zephyr was the
 friendliest, most affectionate cats I've ever known. He used to follow
 me around like a puppy at times. He'd had chronic pancreatitis for
 years and then eventually became diabetic, requiring twice-daily
 insulin injections. He also has asthma, with occasional noisy
 mid-night coughing attacks. He had a good, long life and was
 definitely high maintenance but we still miss the little guy.



Ah, that's sad.  

A wonderful photograph to remember him by.



Cheers

Brian

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RE: Cat photo

[Jeffery Johnson]

Very nice capture and sorry to read about your cat. Never easy...

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Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 5:18 PM
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Subject: Cat photo

Our little friend Zephyr died Saturday ant age 17+
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/

I've always been more of a dog person myself, but since meeting Lisa and
her cats I've come to the conclusion that it's the owner and how they raise
the pet that makes the difference. Zephyr was the friendliest, most
affectionate cats I've ever known. He used to follow me around like a puppy
at times. He'd had chronic pancreatitis for years and then eventually became
diabetic, requiring twice-daily insulin injections. He also has asthma, with
occasional noisy mid-night coughing attacks. He had a good, long life and
was definitely high maintenance but we still miss the little guy.
 
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Re: Cat photo

[Stan Halpin]

All my condolences to you and Lisa Mark. In some ways the high maintenance are 
even more special - we invest so much to keep them happy and functioning. Which 
makes it even more bitter when they go. 

stan

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 28, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Our little friend Zephyr died Saturday ant age 17+
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/
 
 I've always been more of a dog person myself, but since meeting Lisa
 and her cats I've come to the conclusion that it's the owner and how
 they raise the pet that makes the difference. Zephyr was the
 friendliest, most affectionate cats I've ever known. He used to follow
 me around like a puppy at times. He'd had chronic pancreatitis for
 years and then eventually became diabetic, requiring twice-daily
 insulin injections. He also has asthma, with occasional noisy
 mid-night coughing attacks. He had a good, long life and was
 definitely high maintenance but we still miss the little guy.
 
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Re: Cat photo

[Doug Brewer]

Sorry to hear about Zephyr. Give my best to Lisa.

Dougbrewer.posterous.com

On Jun 28, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Our little friend Zephyr died Saturday ant age 17+
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/
 
 I've always been more of a dog person myself, but since meeting Lisa
 and her cats I've come to the conclusion that it's the owner and how
 they raise the pet that makes the difference. Zephyr was the
 friendliest, most affectionate cats I've ever known. He used to follow
 me around like a puppy at times. He'd had chronic pancreatitis for
 years and then eventually became diabetic, requiring twice-daily
 insulin injections. He also has asthma, with occasional noisy
 mid-night coughing attacks. He had a good, long life and was
 definitely high maintenance but we still miss the little guy.
 
 -- 
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Re: Cat photo

[Paul Stenquist]

A cute kitty. Sorry to hear of your loss.
Paul
On Jun 28, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Our little friend Zephyr died Saturday ant age 17+
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/
 
 I've always been more of a dog person myself, but since meeting Lisa
 and her cats I've come to the conclusion that it's the owner and how
 they raise the pet that makes the difference. Zephyr was the
 friendliest, most affectionate cats I've ever known. He used to follow
 me around like a puppy at times. He'd had chronic pancreatitis for
 years and then eventually became diabetic, requiring twice-daily
 insulin injections. He also has asthma, with occasional noisy
 mid-night coughing attacks. He had a good, long life and was
 definitely high maintenance but we still miss the little guy.
 
 -- 
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Re: Cat photo

[Bob Sullivan]

Mark,
Sorry to hear about your pet.
They become part of the family.
I hope Dr. Lisa is not too distressed.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 All my condolences to you and Lisa Mark. In some ways the high maintenance 
 are even more special - we invest so much to keep them happy and functioning. 
 Which makes it even more bitter when they go.

 stan

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 28, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Our little friend Zephyr died Saturday ant age 17+
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/

 I've always been more of a dog person myself, but since meeting Lisa
 and her cats I've come to the conclusion that it's the owner and how
 they raise the pet that makes the difference. Zephyr was the
 friendliest, most affectionate cats I've ever known. He used to follow
 me around like a puppy at times. He'd had chronic pancreatitis for
 years and then eventually became diabetic, requiring twice-daily
 insulin injections. He also has asthma, with occasional noisy
 mid-night coughing attacks. He had a good, long life and was
 definitely high maintenance but we still miss the little guy.

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RE: Cat photo

[Bill Sawyer]

Very expressive image, Mark. Thank you for sharing that...

Bill Sawyer

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Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:18 PM
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Our little friend Zephyr died Saturday ant age 17+
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/

I've always been more of a dog person myself, but since meeting Lisa
and her cats I've come to the conclusion that it's the owner and how
they raise the pet that makes the difference. Zephyr was the
friendliest, most affectionate cats I've ever known. He used to follow
me around like a puppy at times. He'd had chronic pancreatitis for
years and then eventually became diabetic, requiring twice-daily
insulin injections. He also has asthma, with occasional noisy
mid-night coughing attacks. He had a good, long life and was
definitely high maintenance but we still miss the little guy.
 
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Re: Cat photo

[Doug Franklin]

On 2011-06-28 18:17, Mark Roberts wrote:

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So sorry to hear that, Mark.  My condolences.  It's a great photo of 
Zephyr, though.


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Re: Cat photo

[Mark Cassino]

I'm sorry for your loss, Mark. Your photo of Zypher is great - a fine memorial 
to an obviously fine cat.

MCC



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Subject: Cat photo

Our little friend Zephyr died Saturday ant age 17+
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I've always been more of a dog person myself, but since meeting Lisa
and her cats I've come to the conclusion that it's the owner and how
they raise the pet that makes the difference. Zephyr was the
friendliest, most affectionate cats I've ever known. He used to follow
me around like a puppy at times. He'd had chronic pancreatitis for
years and then eventually became diabetic, requiring twice-daily
insulin injections. He also has asthma, with occasional noisy
mid-night coughing attacks. He had a good, long life and was
definitely high maintenance but we still miss the little guy.

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Re: Cat photo

[Ken Waller]

Sorry for you  Lisa's loss.

Zephyr looks like a Seal Point Siamese - Yes?.
Our two lived long also - around 20 years.

Nice to hear a ' dog person' has good thoughts  memories of a cat.  


Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Cat photo



Our little friend Zephyr died Saturday ant age 17+
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/

I've always been more of a dog person myself, but since meeting Lisa
and her cats I've come to the conclusion that it's the owner and how
they raise the pet that makes the difference. Zephyr was the
friendliest, most affectionate cats I've ever known. He used to follow
me around like a puppy at times. He'd had chronic pancreatitis for
years and then eventually became diabetic, requiring twice-daily
insulin injections. He also has asthma, with occasional noisy
mid-night coughing attacks. He had a good, long life and was
definitely high maintenance but we still miss the little guy.

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Re: Cat photo :(

[Joseph McAllister]

On Dec 4, 2009, at 11:48 , Ken Waller wrote:

Our experience with dogs was limited to 1 pure bred Malamute - Bear  
- who lived for 13 years. At around 105 lbs he was considered a big  
dog. The attending vet thought he was old for his breed.


I've owned 6 male  female Malamutes in the past 35 years, usually two  
at a time, alternately overlapping. All but one lived to be 13 + years  
old.


One female wandered out of the yard when she was 12 and could hardly  
get around. She plodded out into the street and committed suicide, I  
like to think. Of the others, only one had to be put down. The others  
all died with a howl, a long yell and a whimper. Either heart attacks  
or brain aneurisms according to vets that knew us.


The one that had to be put down had become unbalanced  by a huge  
(probably) benign growth one one side, and (I surmise - was not there)  
fell down a flight of stairs and hurt his back or neck bad enough that  
he couldn't get up without someone lifting his rear end up and  
allowing him to steady himself. He'd plop back down after a few steps.


All were loving and loved animals.

As are the two I have now, a 3.5 yr Canaan Dog, and a 2 yr mixed breed  
who looks like a small Canaan. I expect them to have long lives, being  
close to pariah dogs.



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Re: Cat photo :(

[Christian]

I've known several cats that lived beyond 20 years.

I was talking to a neighbor who has a very old Australian Cattle Dog 
(Blue Heeler) and he mentioned a remarkable cattle dog that lived to be 29.


I found this quote while checking out the story: The longest-lived dog 
as recorded by the Guinness Book of World Records is, in fact, an 
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[Charles Robinson]

On Dec 4, 2009, at 6:19, Christian wrote:

 I've known several cats that lived beyond 20 years.
 

We've got one (last of three, sadly) who is pushing 19.  He's still doing 
pretty well, surprisingly.  

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2008/peso/content/IMGP1819_2008_PESO_large.html

I missed the part about William's photo that it was of a cat who had recently 
passed away.  I'm sorry for your loss, man.  It's never easy to take, even if 
you see it coming.

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[Bruce Walker]

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Beautiful image of Webster.  Very sorry to hear of his passing. My 
condolences to you.


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Re: Cat photo :(

[Ken Waller]

We've had a number of cats  1 dog since the late 60's.
The longest lived cats were our pure bred Abyssinians (Abu  Wasmale) who 
both lived to around 19 years 9 (which the vets told us was longer than most 
cats they were tending to at the time - 1988). Our most recent cat, 
(Samantha) we inherited from my mom 15 years ago. We think she was around 3 
years old in 1994. She died this spring - so approx 18 years old.
Our experience with dogs was limited to 1 pure bred Malamute - Bear - who 
lived for 13 years. At around 105 lbs he was considered a big dog. The 
attending vet thought he was old for his breed.


BTW none of these animals actually died on their own, we kept them comfy 
until near the end when we finally had the vet euthanize them.


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Subject: Re: Cat photo :(



I've known several cats that lived beyond 20 years.

I was talking to a neighbor who has a very old Australian Cattle Dog (Blue 
Heeler) and he mentioned a remarkable cattle dog that lived to be 29.


I found this quote while checking out the story: The longest-lived dog as 
recorded by the Guinness Book of World Records is, in fact, an Australian 
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Re: Cat photo :(

[Stan Halpin]

On Dec 3, 2009, at 10:06 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:

 I had a rescued feral cat who lived past 20 -- Bandit. He died 20 years and 
 two months after we took him in. Don't know exactly how old he was. But 
 regardless of age, it's still sad when they go. I sat up with him most of the 
 night on his last day and petted him until he stopped breathing.
 Paul
 

I've had that privilege with several dogs and cats. It is amazing how much joy 
they can bring to a household. It is only right, it is their due that they 
should be cared for until the end.

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Really sad. 

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[Cotty]

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oh man that's sad. great photo as well. How old was he?
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Looks like a cat I would have liked to know.

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[mike wilson]

 Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: 
 On 2/12/09, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
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 oh man that's sad. great photo as well. How old was he?
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[Carlos R]

I'm really sorry about the demise of your cat/friend. I have been 
through the same a pair of months ago, and also lost my dear dog in 
April, it still hurts a lot (to say the least) and miss them both. Your 
Webster seemed to be a good boy and companion, and the portrait is very 
nice.


Carlos

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Sorry, Mark! Treasured photo and memories.

Jack

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So sorry Mark about your loss. Fabulous shot, hopefully as a reminder
for merry, not mournful memories - the dead don't want us sad...
Cheers
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On Dec 2, 2009, at 11:58 PM, frank theriault wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
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 Dear me.  I didn't scroll down far enough to see that poor Webster has
 passed on (only noticed when I read the other comments).

Likewise. Always tough to lose a family member. My condolences.
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Sorry to hear about Webster, Mark.  Handsome photo.  Cheers, Christine


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[Bob Sullivan]

Mark,
Like Christine said...
Isn't 16 years a pretty long life for a cat?
Regards,  Bob S.

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 Sorry to hear about Webster, Mark.  Handsome photo.  Cheers, Christine


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Oh no!  
much condolences

beautiful shot

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[P N Stenquist]

I had a rescued feral cat who lived past 20 -- Bandit. He died 20  
years and two months after we took him in. Don't know exactly how old  
he was. But regardless of age, it's still sad when they go. I sat up  
with him most of the night on his last day and petted him until he  
stopped breathing.

Paul

On Dec 3, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:


Mark,
Like Christine said...
Isn't 16 years a pretty long life for a cat?
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net 
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Sorry to hear about Webster, Mark.  Handsome photo.  Cheers,  
Christine



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[David J Brooks]

Nice photo, but sorry to see it on such a said note.

Dave

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[David J Brooks]

We had one make it to 17 and another to 22.

Dave

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 I had a rescued feral cat who lived past 20 -- Bandit. He died 20 years and
 two months after we took him in. Don't know exactly how old he was. But
 regardless of age, it's still sad when they go. I sat up with him most of
 the night on his last day and petted him until he stopped breathing.
 Paul

 On Dec 3, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Mark,
 Like Christine said...
 Isn't 16 years a pretty long life for a cat?
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net
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 Sorry to hear about Webster, Mark.  Handsome photo.  Cheers, Christine


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[John Sessoms]

From: Jim King

Mark Roberts wrote on Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:13:41 -0800


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Sorry to hear of Webster's passing.  Losing a pet is like losing a
family member.  The best therapy is to get another one soon...


Not my experience. Better to allow yourself time to grieve.

Mark, you have my sympathy. I know what you're experiencing.

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[Tim Bray]

Sad times; few cats get such a lovely visual eulogy.

Our second-string cat vanished for a few days last summer.  We were
awfully happy when he came home, but didn't let him know we'd been
well into discussion of new-kitten options.  -Tim

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[Cotty]

On 3/12/09, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

Nothing to say about Mark's ginger pussy?  You disappoint me.

Dead cat mate. Black armbands all around.

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[Cotty]

On 3/12/09, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed:

Isn't 16 years a pretty long life for a cat?

It's a good life span. We have one at 15 and one at 17. The elder is
going deaf but she still can hold her own in an argument. The younger
romps about still and will cause all sorts of mayhem...

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[John Francis]

On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 08:07:08AM -0600, Bob Sullivan wrote:
 Mark,
 Like Christine said...
 Isn't 16 years a pretty long life for a cat?
 Regards,  Bob S.

That depends.  As with dogs, purebreeds have shorter lifespans.
A typical lifespan for an otherwise healthy mixed breed would be
12-15 years, but there is considerable variation even there.
I've had a couple of cats that didn't make it to eight (although
each of those had other medical problems), and three that made
it past twenty (one managing to attain the age of twenty-five!).
Currently my oldest is 15, but she's failing - I don't know that
she'll make it another year.  There again, I said the same thing
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When my fathers purebreed English Cocker was 12 years old one of the 
Vets would remark at his annual checkup, He probably won't be around 
much longer.  He said this for three years, then left the partnership 
for a job in research.  The Dog lived another four years.  At 19 he was 
a very old dog...


John Francis wrote:

On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 08:07:08AM -0600, Bob Sullivan wrote:
  

Mark,
Like Christine said...
Isn't 16 years a pretty long life for a cat?
Regards,  Bob S.



That depends.  As with dogs, purebreeds have shorter lifespans.
A typical lifespan for an otherwise healthy mixed breed would be
12-15 years, but there is considerable variation even there.
I've had a couple of cats that didn't make it to eight (although
each of those had other medical problems), and three that made
it past twenty (one managing to attain the age of twenty-five!).
Currently my oldest is 15, but she's failing - I don't know that
she'll make it another year.  There again, I said the same thing
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Our Ginger bloke (seen here doing the gardening: 
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 is coming up 15 and will still dash around now and again. He's now on tablets 
for a Thyroid condition and medicated food to prevent urinary tract problems 
but is basically healthy and happy.  

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 Isn't 16 years a pretty long life for a cat?
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[Doug Franklin]

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Mark,
Like Christine said...
Isn't 16 years a pretty long life for a cat?


It's not that out of line for an indoor-only moggy.  Pure bred animals 
tend not to live as long, and being and outdoor kitty definitely reduces 
average life span, for city kitties, anyway.  I've had one live to 
nearly 20, another to 17 and a bit, and I've got two 12-year-olds in the 
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[Doug Franklin]

P. J. Alling wrote:

At 19 he was 
a very old dog...


For some reason, I have it in my head that the average lifespan for pet 
cats is a couple of years longer than for pet dogs.


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Re: Cat photo :(

[Tim Øsleby]

I raise my glass for Webster.

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Re: Cat photo :(

[John Francis]

On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 05:12:53PM -0500, Doug Franklin wrote:
 P. J. Alling wrote:

 At 19 he was a very old dog...

 For some reason, I have it in my head that the average lifespan for pet  
 cats is a couple of years longer than for pet dogs.

That's because they are smaller.  Seriously (albeit slightly tongue-in-
cheek; different species are not directly comparable).  But large dog
breeds have, generally speaking, shorter lifespans than smaller breeds.


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Re: Cat photo :(

[Jack Davis]

That vet probably made a wise move. :(

Jack

--- On Thu, 12/3/09, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Cat photo :(
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 1:52 PM
 When my fathers purebreed English
 Cocker was 12 years old one of the 
 Vets would remark at his annual checkup, He probably won't
 be around 
 much longer.  He said this for three years, then left
 the partnership 
 for a job in research.  The Dog lived another four
 years.  At 19 he was 
 a very old dog...
 
 John Francis wrote:
  On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 08:07:08AM -0600, Bob Sullivan
 wrote:
    
  Mark,
  Like Christine said...
  Isn't 16 years a pretty long life for a cat?
  Regards,  Bob S.
      
 
  That depends.  As with dogs, purebreeds have
 shorter lifespans.
  A typical lifespan for an otherwise healthy mixed
 breed would be
  12-15 years, but there is considerable variation even
 there.
  I've had a couple of cats that didn't make it to eight
 (although
  each of those had other medical problems), and three
 that made
  it past twenty (one managing to attain the age of
 twenty-five!).
  Currently my oldest is 15, but she's failing - I don't
 know that
  she'll make it another year.  There again, I said
 the same thing
  twelve months ago; time will tell.
 
 
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Re: Cat photo :(

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:40 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:



 That depends.  As with dogs, purebreeds have shorter lifespans.
 A typical lifespan for an otherwise healthy mixed breed would be
 12-15 years, but there is considerable variation even there.
 I've had a couple of cats that didn't make it to eight (although
 each of those had other medical problems), and three that made
 it past twenty (one managing to attain the age of twenty-five!).
 Currently my oldest is 15, but she's failing - I don't know that
 she'll make it another year.  There again, I said the same thing
 twelve months ago; time will tell.

When I was married we had a Devon Rex who passed on due to congestive
heart failure at about 12.  Vet said that was quite normal for a
purebred.

I currently (she's still at my ex', but I hope to have her back in a
month or two - long story) have a mixed breed cat who's 20 (or
possibly even 21 - when I got her in '96 her previous owner said she
was 6 or 7, I can't remember which.  She's in remarkably good shape
for her years.  Alert, still jumps relatively well, runs about every
so often, even plays once in a while (when she feels like it every few
days or so).  Might have a bit of arthritis in her rear hips and her
kidney and liver counts are high (but not shockingly so according to
the vet), but for her age she's doing great.

Longest relationship I've had with a female (who isn't a blood relative)...

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Re: Cat photo :(

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: Doug Franklin 
Subject: Re: Cat photo :(




P. J. Alling wrote:

At 19 he was 
a very old dog...


For some reason, I have it in my head that the average lifespan for pet 
cats is a couple of years longer than for pet dogs.



Oldest cat I've kept died at 8. Oldest dog, just short of 16.
Cars are a geat equalizer.
Mark, sorry for your loss.

William Robb


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Re: Cat photo :(

[William Robb]

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Subject: Re: Cat photo :(



On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 05:12:53PM -0500, Doug Franklin wrote:

P. J. Alling wrote:


At 19 he was a very old dog...


For some reason, I have it in my head that the average lifespan for pet
cats is a couple of years longer than for pet dogs.


That's because they are smaller.  Seriously (albeit slightly tongue-in-
cheek; different species are not directly comparable).  But large dog
breeds have, generally speaking, shorter lifespans than smaller breeds.


This is true, and some of the large breeds are getting decidedly shaky. I 
was talking to a trial judge last year who told me that over the past decade 
or so, the Great Dane has grown several inches, often as much as 36-38 
inches, which is 8 inches over the minimum height standard.
Breeders have done this to win shows, but have done it by breeding big to 
big with less attention paid to other criteria.
These big Danes also live a couple of years less than a more normally sized 
dog of 32 inches, which is the preferred height.
Some of the larger toys can have very long lives, and Cockers do seem to be 
capable of long lives. Our girl who died at 16 was a Cocker crossed with 
some sort of terrier.
She was the typical little brown dog, which seems to have the best chance 
of carrying a light genetic load.


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Re: Cat photo

[John Sessoms]

From: Cotty

On 3/12/09, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed:


Isn't 16 years a pretty long life for a cat?


It's a good life span. We have one at 15 and one at 17. The elder is
going deaf but she still can hold her own in an argument. The younger
romps about still and will cause all sorts of mayhem...

http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/nature/images/pic21.html


Baily was 11 when he got sick and died last summer. Baxter is about the 
same age, seems to be doing ok.


Their predecessors, Demon  Scooter, lived to be 17 and 16 respectively.

None of 'em pure breeds. Just whatever mixture of cat that cats get up to.

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Re: Cat photo :(

[John Sessoms]

From: frank theriault

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:40 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:




 That depends. ?As with dogs, purebreeds have shorter lifespans.
 A typical lifespan for an otherwise healthy mixed breed would be
 12-15 years, but there is considerable variation even there.
 I've had a couple of cats that didn't make it to eight (although
 each of those had other medical problems), and three that made
 it past twenty (one managing to attain the age of twenty-five!).
 Currently my oldest is 15, but she's failing - I don't know that
 she'll make it another year. ?There again, I said the same thing
 twelve months ago; time will tell.


When I was married we had a Devon Rex who passed on due to congestive
heart failure at about 12.  Vet said that was quite normal for a
purebred.

I currently (she's still at my ex', but I hope to have her back in a
month or two - long story) have a mixed breed cat who's 20 (or
possibly even 21 - when I got her in '96 her previous owner said she
was 6 or 7, I can't remember which.  She's in remarkably good shape
for her years.  Alert, still jumps relatively well, runs about every
so often, even plays once in a while (when she feels like it every few
days or so).  Might have a bit of arthritis in her rear hips and her
kidney and liver counts are high (but not shockingly so according to
the vet), but for her age she's doing great.

Longest relationship I've had with a female (who isn't a blood relative)...


I think Siamese are supposed to be very long lived. In 1965, someone 
gave my mom a full grown Siamese - supposedly 7 or 8 years old at the 
time. It lived 'til 1975.


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Re: Cat photo :(

[Doug Franklin]

frank theriault wrote:


Longest relationship I've had with a female (who isn't a blood relative)...


There are about 900 jokes there, but I don't know you well enough to 
tell any of them. :-)


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Re: Cat photo :(

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote:

 There are about 900 jokes there, but I don't know you well enough to tell
 any of them. :-)


Sure you do.

But I'd prefer you not tell any of them anyway...

;-)

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Re: Cat photo :(

[Doug Franklin]

John Francis wrote:

On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 05:12:53PM -0500, Doug Franklin wrote:

P. J. Alling wrote:


At 19 he was a very old dog...
For some reason, I have it in my head that the average lifespan for pet  
cats is a couple of years longer than for pet dogs.


That's because they are smaller.  Seriously (albeit slightly tongue-in-
cheek; different species are not directly comparable).  But large dog
breeds have, generally speaking, shorter lifespans than smaller breeds.


Hmmm. That seems strange, to me.  Again, going by biology classes a lot 
more years ago than I'd really care to admit, I thought that larger 
species typically lived longer than smaller species, when considered on 
the gross scale, like hamster versus cat/dog versus horse rather than 
hamster versus mouse.  As I recall, something about the smaller ones 
having higher metabolism or something (e.g., higher average resting 
heart rate).  Seems like Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) might have been in 
the explanation somewhere. :-)


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Re: Cat photo :(

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: Doug Franklin

Subject: Re: Cat photo :(



frank theriault wrote:

Longest relationship I've had with a female (who isn't a blood 
relative)...


There are about 900 jokes there, but I don't know you well enough to tell 
any of them. :-)


Get real Doug.
People who don't know Frank at all have known him far longer than long 
enough to make those sorts of jokes.


William Robb


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Re: Cat photo :(

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: Doug Franklin

Subject: Re: Cat photo :(



John Francis wrote:

On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 05:12:53PM -0500, Doug Franklin wrote:

P. J. Alling wrote:


At 19 he was a very old dog...
For some reason, I have it in my head that the average lifespan for pet 
cats is a couple of years longer than for pet dogs.


That's because they are smaller.  Seriously (albeit slightly tongue-in-
cheek; different species are not directly comparable).  But large dog
breeds have, generally speaking, shorter lifespans than smaller breeds.


Hmmm. That seems strange, to me.  Again, going by biology classes a lot 
more years ago than I'd really care to admit, I thought that larger 
species typically lived longer than smaller species, when considered on 
the gross scale, like hamster versus cat/dog versus horse rather than 
hamster versus mouse.  As I recall, something about the smaller ones 
having higher metabolism or something (e.g., higher average resting heart 
rate).  Seems like Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) might have been in the 
explanation somewhere. :-)


Larger dog breeds tend to carry more genetic loading, making them more prone 
to things that kill them, such as various cancers and auto immune problems.


William Robb 



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Re: Cat photo :(

[Doug Franklin]

frank theriault wrote:

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote:


There are about 900 jokes there, but I don't know you well enough to tell
any of them. :-)



Sure you do.

But I'd prefer you not tell any of them anyway...

;-)


It's OK, I've forgotten them.

Eh, what?

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Re: Cat photo :(

[Doug Franklin]

William Robb wrote:


Get real Doug.
People who don't know Frank at all have known him far longer than long 
enough to make those sorts of jokes.


I guess I'm wearing my Southern Gentleman hat tonight.

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Re: Cat photo :(

[William Robb]

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Subject: Re: Cat photo :(




William Robb wrote:


Get real Doug.
People who don't know Frank at all have known him far longer than long 
enough to make those sorts of jokes.


I guess I'm wearing my Southern Gentleman hat tonight.


Well that's totally lost on this lot.

William Robb

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Re: Cat photo :(

[Graydon]

On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 09:13:32PM -0500, Mark Roberts scripsit:
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Sorry for your loss.

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Re: Cat photo :(

[Graydon]

On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 09:59:22PM -0500, Doug Franklin scripsit:
 John Francis wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 05:12:53PM -0500, Doug Franklin wrote:
 P. J. Alling wrote:

 At 19 he was a very old dog...
 For some reason, I have it in my head that the average lifespan for 
 pet  cats is a couple of years longer than for pet dogs.

 That's because they are smaller.  Seriously (albeit slightly tongue-in-
 cheek; different species are not directly comparable).  But large dog
 breeds have, generally speaking, shorter lifespans than smaller breeds.

 Hmmm. That seems strange, to me. 

The default dog is quite small; 10 to 15 kg.  Moving away from that via
selective breeding tends to introduce issues that there hasn't been
enough time for natural selection to remove, especially since people
keep up the selective breeding.

 Again, going by biology classes a lot  more years ago than I'd really
 care to admit, I thought that larger  species typically lived longer
 than smaller species, when considered on  the gross scale, like
 hamster versus cat/dog versus horse rather than  hamster versus mouse.

There's a roughly constant number of heartbeats per lifetime in mammals.
Smaller critters have much higher heart rates so much shorter lives.

There are exceptions to this curve; humans live about three times longer
than we ought on the basis of that relation between heartbeats and
lifespan.  (Heavy selection pressure for cultural transmission,
probably.)

Dogs, though, are skewed by the selective breeding; the default dog
lifespan is probably whatever Asian pariah dogs (which are probably
pretty close to the default dog) manage.

-- Graydon

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Re: Cat photo :(

[272yb]

Very nice Mark, Joe

www.photo.net/photos/pjjdxn

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Re: Cat photo :(

[P. J. Alling]

Doug Franklin wrote:

P. J. Alling wrote:


At 19 he was a very old dog...


For some reason, I have it in my head that the average lifespan for 
pet cats is a couple of years longer than for pet dogs.


On average cats live two to four years longer than dogs.  IIRC the 
oldest house cat lived to be about thirty four.  The oldest dog about 
twenty, maybe twenty five.  I'd have to look it up...


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Re: Cat photo :(

[P. J. Alling]

Doug Franklin wrote:

John Francis wrote:

On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 05:12:53PM -0500, Doug Franklin wrote:

P. J. Alling wrote:


At 19 he was a very old dog...
For some reason, I have it in my head that the average lifespan for 
pet  cats is a couple of years longer than for pet dogs.


That's because they are smaller.  Seriously (albeit slightly tongue-in-
cheek; different species are not directly comparable).  But large dog
breeds have, generally speaking, shorter lifespans than smaller breeds.


Hmmm. That seems strange, to me.  Again, going by biology classes a 
lot more years ago than I'd really care to admit, I thought that 
larger species typically lived longer than smaller species, when 
considered on the gross scale, like hamster versus cat/dog versus 
horse rather than hamster versus mouse.  As I recall, something about 
the smaller ones having higher metabolism or something (e.g., higher 
average resting heart rate).  Seems like Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) 
might have been in the explanation somewhere. :-)


The dog's ancestors are an animal of about 30 to 40 pounds, much loarger 
than that you start seeing system failures early.  Too much smaller and 
you have other problems.  Pretty much like humans.  It takes a lot of 
time for all the kinks to work in evolution if you the failures aren't 
immediately fatal.  I haven't seen a lot of outsized cats.  Maybe we 
don't have quite as much control over feline breeding, or cats have a 
less diverse gene pool.  Then again maybe it's just that after a cat 
reaches a certian size a human looks more like lunch to a solitary 
hunter, as opposed to a pack leader to a cooperative hunter...


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Re: Cat photo :(

[David Mann]

On Dec 3, 2009, at 3:13 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

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What a lovely photo.

My sincere condolences... we have some friends whose cat passed away earlier 
this year.  They said the house just isn't the same.

We'll get a couple of cats one of these days, maybe once we get a stronger lid 
on the fish tank.

Cheers,
Dave
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He looks like such a sweetie.  Sorry for your lose.

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Well done:-((
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