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Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: .. have you participated in the PDML, in its various iterations. While sitting in traffic this afternoon, the thought crossed my mind that some of us have been here a *very* long time. While I can't recall exactly when I joined, I think it was some time in 1999, maybe 1998 - before the arrival of many, if not all, of the MZ/ZX cameras I believe, when the LX reigned supreme. That seems like a long time to be on a mailing list, yet there are some folks here who were here when I arrived and who are still here. Bill Robb, Steady Stenquist, Stan Halpin, Rob Studdert, and Steve Larson are just a few names that come to mind. Bill Castleberry, up on the Oregon Coast, was here, disappeared, popped up again briefly, and then disappeared again. Do any of the old timers recall how they heard about the list? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Hallo Shel, I heard about the list in the time, when it was officially managed by PENTAX and long before the great change went on. And I stayed with it until today ... I'm very good understanding Your language, but it's hard for me to write in English. And it's hard for me to understand all the many abbreviations: OT and PESO and GESO and so on. Nothing to find in my WEBSTERs Dictionary ... Could You or anybody else please make a Explanation List for me ? So I seldom or never answered, but had all the long time a look at the list and the monthly pictures. Season greetings to all list members from Germany Sincerely Yours Kristian-Heinrich Schuessler PENTAX-owner since first SPOTMATICs (Now working with many K2s and one LX, one MZ-3, one Z-1 p and working - not collecting - with a great set of original PENTAX lenses, beginning with TAKUMARs) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html Will answer some of your questions about abbreviations. Kristian-H. Schüssler wrote: I heard about the list in the time, when it was officially managed by PENTAX and long before the great change went on. And I stayed with it until today ... I'm very good understanding Your language, but it's hard for me to write in English. And it's hard for me to understand all the many abbreviations: OT and PESO and GESO and so on. Nothing to find in my WEBSTERs Dictionary ... Could You or anybody else please make a Explanation List for me ? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/06 Wed AM 12:23:40 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: How Long ... The list certainly has seen it's share of interesting characters - Valentine, Mafud, The Who... Then there are the less colorful but unforgotten - Steve Graham, Roberto Burgos and others... - MCC I sometimes wonder what happened to Len Paris. Not a controversial person but someone who had an abundance of knowledge of various camera systems and was able to pass that information on without coming over as smug. Worked in the Pentagon, IIRC. K.Takeshita wrote: On 12/04/06 7:10 PM, Bob Sullivan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Valentin the 'Caveman' was with us Oh, Valentine! I remember two PhD's in geology battling out every turn of corners of threads, which was becoming a sort of institution' of the days. I thought the Who was cute and did not really bother me. There were more colourful character those days. There also was a self-proclaimed PJ (forgot his name) but some say he was a.k.a. Kirkland Ramsey? And there was a lunatic Bruce R. It seems that when digital almost suddenly swept us, the list became a bit techno-geek oriented and those interesting characters left. Or Pentax was so slow on everything and they probably jumped the ship. But it is amazing that this list kept its basic character which you cannot find in any other lists :-). Ken -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/06 Wed AM 01:20:01 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: How Long ... Antonio And how so? Norm He misspelled narcissistic. William Robb wrote: From: Mark Roberts Ah yes! Now I remember him! I also remember this response from Bill Robb specifically. Not so much because he stood up to someone obnoxious (he'd done that plenty of times before!) but because nailed the narcisitic part right on the head. Very perceptive. That was embarrassing -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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- Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: How Long ... Antonio From: Norm Baugher Subject: Re: How Long ... Antonio And how so? Norm He misspelled narcissistic. Yup. I missed spell checking that one. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Hi Subash As far as I understood it is quite easy to join the PDML but you will never find a way out to leave it again. greetings Markus You can check-out any time you like, but you can never leave! Hotel California Eagles I'm not yet a long-timer/old-timer on the PDML. I found the list by doing an Internet search while I was considering my first dSLR. I was looking at offerings from the behemoths that bribe salesfolks to push their product(s). Since I already owned the venerable and recently maligned K1000 and a couple of lenses, I was hoping that Pentax had something available or in the works. I bought the DS in November 2004. Followed by a 2nd DS body in April 2005. You folks have helped my enablement to the tune of several thousand dollars. A few lenses and other necessities have found their way to me since then. The K10D joined the family last week. Heaven only knows where the next bit of enablement will take me. Yolanda -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 12/06/06 6:00 PM, Yolanda Rowe (Hughes), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The K10D joined the family last week. Heaven only knows where the next bit of enablement will take me. You came to the right place to lick each other's self-inflicted wounds :-). Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Greetings, don't recall seeing your posts before. Anyway, glad you hollered - sounds like your acquisitions give you something to holler about. I hope that you will show us some pictures in the future - either through the PUG or your own postings. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, December 6, 2006, 3:00:31 PM, you wrote: YRH Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Hi Subash As far as I understood it is quite easy to join the PDML but you will never find a way out to leave it again. greetings Markus YRH You can check-out any time you like, but you can never leave! YRHHotel California Eagles YRH I'm not yet a long-timer/old-timer on the PDML. I found the list by doing an YRH Internet search while I was considering my first dSLR. I was looking at YRH offerings from the behemoths that bribe salesfolks to push their product(s). YRH Since I already owned the venerable and recently maligned K1000 and a couple YRH of lenses, I was hoping that Pentax had something available or in the works. YRH I bought the DS in November 2004. Followed by a 2nd DS body in April 2005. YRH You folks have helped my enablement to the tune of several thousand dollars. YRH A few lenses and other necessities have found their way to me since then. YRH The K10D joined the family last week. Heaven only knows where the next bit YRH of enablement will take me. YRH Yolanda -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Yolanda Rowe (Hughes) wrote: The K10D joined the family last week. Heaven only knows where the next bit of enablement will take me. SSM lenses in the Spring! :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Valentin the 'Caveman' was with us Oh, Valentine! I remember two PhD's in geology battling out every turn of corners of threads, which was becoming a sort of institution' of the days. I thought the Who was cute and did not really bother me. There were more colourful character those days. There also was a self-proclaimed PJ (forgot his name) but some say he was a.k.a. Kirkland Ramsey? Oh man, Suda Mafud, AKA Kirkland Ramsey, AKA MT Greene AKA several others (Doug has told me he's been re-subbed under a variety of names, albeit briefly). Now there was a character. And there was a lunatic Bruce R. Bruce was a lunatic and a classic Nikon Weenie (that's a term the people at *Nikon* use!) but he at least knew a thing or two about photography. I think Brad Dobo was the pinnacle of lunacy. He probably holds the record for becoming persona non grata in the shortest amount of time. The first year Norm Baugher showed up at GFM he introduced himself to Tom Van Veen with Hi, I'm Brad Dobo. I just wish I'd witnessed it! No, no, no. Brad Dobo was a beginner compared to The Who and Kirkland Ramsey III (Presbyterian). Regards Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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And they followed up with a crippled whore. On Dec 4, 2006, at 11:34 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: How Long ... Bruce never returned to eat his hat. Remember how certain he was that Pentax would never go digitial? The best they could come up with was a cheap plastic toy. WW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 05/12/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/04/06 7:10 PM, Bob Sullivan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Valentin the 'Caveman' was with us Oh, Valentine! I remember two PhD's in geology battling out every turn of corners of threads, which was becoming a sort of institution' of the days. I had a chat with Valentin last month, he's no longer teaching and is now an IT dude. Ha made mention of the K10D but is only currently a PS digicam user. He still delivers the same wit :-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Mark Roberts wrote: I think Brad Dobo was the pinnacle of lunacy. He probably holds the record for becoming persona non grata in the shortest amount of time. Hmmm... Anyone remember that italian guy working in UK? I think Cotty managed to dig up that he was an awarded author of technical documentation. He wasn't around for long either. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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How about me? I got hooked in summer 2005. I have no idea about why and how, just like any addiction. But I just realised the bright side. I never got a message about being on probation. I think that means that I never have bee on the hook? I'm off, into real life, bye ;-) BTW. This is a totally useless, but very entertaining thread. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Womer Sent: 4. desember 2006 16:25 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: How Long ... It depends. Frank and Cotty have been on probation for years! Rick --- SJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am just wondering how long before i pass the period of probation... :)) regards, subash On 12/4/06, Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just passed the period of probation :-) greetings Markus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Do you mean Antonio? I actually found him to be the most aggravating personality on the list to deal with. In fact I named a Roman Head flower pot after him and grew coleus out of it the summer he was on the list . The others at least generated a small feeling of amusement. Tom C. From: Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: How Long ... Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 15:20:28 +0100 Mark Roberts wrote: I think Brad Dobo was the pinnacle of lunacy. He probably holds the record for becoming persona non grata in the shortest amount of time. Hmmm... Anyone remember that italian guy working in UK? I think Cotty managed to dig up that he was an awarded author of technical documentation. He wasn't around for long either. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 5/12/06, Jostein Øksne, discombobulated, unleashed: Hmmm... Anyone remember that italian guy working in UK? I think Cotty managed to dig up that he was an awarded author of technical documentation. He wasn't around for long either. I'd forgotten him until you mentioned him just now. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 5/12/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: Do you mean Antonio? Ack. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Mark Roberts wrote: K.Takeshita wrote: Bob Sullivan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Valentin the 'Caveman' was with us Oh, Valentine! I remember two PhD's in geology battling out every turn of corners of threads, which was becoming a sort of institution' of the days. I thought the Who was cute and did not really bother me. There were more colourful character those days. There also was a self-proclaimed PJ think Brad Dobo was the pinnacle of lunacy. He probably holds the record for becoming persona non grata in the shortest amount of time. The first year Norm Baugher showed up at GFM he introduced himself to Tom Van Veen with Hi, I'm Brad Dobo. I just wish I'd witnessed it! I was there but didn't actualy witness the comment - I think you were not back from your overnighter on the mountain... Or had left for it. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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That's the man. He may have been good with tech, but his socials were nasty pieces of work. :-( Jostein On 12/5/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you mean Antonio? I actually found him to be the most aggravating personality on the list to deal with. In fact I named a Roman Head flower pot after him and grew coleus out of it the summer he was on the list . The others at least generated a small feeling of amusement. Tom C. From: Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: How Long ... Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 15:20:28 +0100 Mark Roberts wrote: I think Brad Dobo was the pinnacle of lunacy. He probably holds the record for becoming persona non grata in the shortest amount of time. Hmmm... Anyone remember that italian guy working in UK? I think Cotty managed to dig up that he was an awarded author of technical documentation. He wasn't around for long either. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hi I joined early 2003. I had a ME super 2 consumer zooms and a m50 1.7 at the time. Now it is 2 ME supers, a MZ 7 and a *istD 9 pentax primes 3 pentax zooms. I have also bought and sold some others. I have learnt a lot but have had periods that I have deleted lots without reading. Patrick in South Africa -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Jostein Øksne wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: I think Brad Dobo was the pinnacle of lunacy. He probably holds the record for becoming persona non grata in the shortest amount of time. Hmmm... Anyone remember that italian guy working in UK? I think Cotty managed to dig up that he was an awarded author of technical documentation. For astronomy, I think. For someone with his head higher than the clouds, he certainly managed to get under a lot of folks' skin. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I think Brad Dobo was the pinnacle of lunacy. He probably holds the record for becoming persona non grata in the shortest amount of time. Hmmm... Anyone remember that italian guy working in UK? I think Cotty managed to dig up that he was an awarded author of technical documentation. For astronomy, I think. For someone with his head higher than the clouds, he certainly managed to get under a lot of folks' skin. I don't remember that person. Give us some examples of his subcutaneous behaviour. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Bob W wrote: I think Brad Dobo was the pinnacle of lunacy. He probably holds the record for becoming persona non grata in the shortest amount of time. Hmmm... Anyone remember that italian guy working in UK? I think Cotty managed to dig up that he was an awarded author of technical documentation. For astronomy, I think. For someone with his head higher than the clouds, he certainly managed to get under a lot of folks' skin. I don't remember that person. Give us some examples of his subcutaneous behaviour. Bob Odd. He mentioned you personally. Taken out of context, they don't look as bad as some others but he had such supercilious air it was difficult to hold a conversation with him on any level. Let me know when you've had enough. === Antonio Aparicio Mon, 17 May 2004 14:46:55 -0700 Jostein, so would one of the unwritten rules of this list be that you can only disagree if you do so constructively and that you must try and befriend those you are debating things with? Antonio Antonio Sat, 14 Aug 2004 23:25:28 -0700 I'll reply to the bit of you post that acutally is relevant tot he topic. For the last time (I hope). When people sax an xmm lens is the 35mm equivalent of a ymm lens they are not saying it is exacctly the same in all respects, but rather the AOV is simimilar because of the crop factor brought about by the smaller digital sensor. It is not a literal statement as you, greyworld and peter alling seem to read it. |Antonio = Antonio Sat, 14 Aug 2004 07:45:07 -0700 Trolling again William? Why is it so hard for you to accept that most people use and understand the term 35mm equivalent when refering to non-35mm formats? A. = Antonio Sat, 14 Aug 2004 13:46:55 -0700 Yet another abusive post ERN. Very good. Well done. I am sure your gallery will love it. However calling someone a Jackass doesnt win an argument, nor make you right, it just makes you look abusive. 50mm becomes xmm on a digital camera is easy enough to understand, as is the 35mm equivalent of lens x is y. Both are acceptable phrasing and language - only you, greyworld and alling seem to have problems with it. The rest of the web, and some more authoritative sites than this seem to use them without a problem. I have not misrepresented greyworld at all. Did you miss the bit that said (and I quote): My 50mm lens becomes 200mm lens is just BS pure and simple. The whole thing seems to be a form of penis envy, Mine is bigger than yours. It is not bullshit as greyworld has said - it means that my 50mm lens becomes a xmm lens (i.e. The AOV changes) when you use it on a digital camera. Antonio P.s. Penis envy is a term originally applied to women, as they do not have a penis of their own ;-). Antonio Mon, 16 Aug 2004 10:25:43 -0700 Don¹t worry Norm, you were included amongst the few others, along with the other sheep (Coty, Don Co.) By the way, what is it with you guys and Penis size? Antonio On 16/8/04 2:15 am, Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget me, you little prick. - We were all thinking this. Norm From: Antonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] In fact I am starting to get a feel for who the abusers are on this list (you, Tom C, Greyworld, Peter Alling, Bob W and a few others). === -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I don't remember that person. Give us some examples of his subcutaneous behaviour. Bob Here's what some of us said about him... On 8 Jul 2004 at 10:24, Norm Baugher wrote: You're damn right Antonio! What does vitriol mean? It's empathy, tolerance, compromise and integration that he doesn't understand :-( Antonio, You're supposed to stop typing your keyboard, and pause for thought. In fact, this is one of the least inflammable photo lists around today. We would _very_ much appreciate your contribution to keep it that way. Of course we all disagree with each other all the time. The clue is on another level; the _ways_ you forfeit your points. Disagreement can be either constructive or a way to make your discussion partners pissed off. It's all in the language. Choose words you would use among strangers you want to befriend. Cheers, Jostein Bob, Not sure what I have lost. Nobody has called the other bob a Nazi. Antonio On 14 Jul 2004, at 21:23, Bob W wrote: Hi, Yea, Antonio, I'm a Nazi. Go revel at the wondrous name you've tacked onto me. All the others on the list will be proud of you, send you many accolades, etc. Naw, they'll just be silent. RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K M lenses) J. C. O'Connell Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:18:43 -0700 After I fully just explained ALL exposure systems in existance, my experience with their usage and pros and cons of each you give a really lame, dumb reply like that? Green button mode aint as good as a true AE mode period. See my last post, I explained why. I don't need to buy or hold or use the the thing to KNOW that. Just like I don't need to go to Alaska to know there is snow there. Go ahead, like your istD but don't try to tell me the sky is green when it is obvious it is blue. Oh, Maybe if I push a a little green button the sky will turn green for me? JCO WHOOPS SORRY - that was JCO in September 2 years ago Antonio Aparicio Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:25:57 -0700 Tom, And there was me all sad because you said you didn't want to talk to me again! LOL. A. On 8 Jul 2004, at 18:14, Tom C wrote: Antonio, I have only one thing to say to you. SHUTUP! Tom C. From: Antonio Aparicio Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME Well Bob, calling someone an idiot is pretty inflammatory in most peoples book, not to mention rude. Well, Antonio, Let's take this beyond rude. You are a *** a**hole. A bombastic piece of . And a narcisitic sociopath. You don't care about anyone other than yourself. You have no concern for anyones feelings other than your own. Consider yourself lucky that this is an email list, rather than a face to face discussion. I'd be putting the boots to your head about now. I don't suffer fools in silence, and you certainly are a fool. Regards William Robb Ahhh the good old days. :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Tom C wrote: Here's what some of us said about him... Bill Robb wrote: Well Bob, calling someone an idiot is pretty inflammatory in most peoples book, not to mention rude. Well, Antonio, Let's take this beyond rude. You are a *** a**hole. A bombastic piece of . And a narcisitic sociopath. You don't care about anyone other than yourself. You have no concern for anyones feelings other than your own. Consider yourself lucky that this is an email list, rather than a face to face discussion. I'd be putting the boots to your head about now. I don't suffer fools in silence, and you certainly are a fool. Regards William Robb Ah yes! Now I remember him! I also remember this response from Bill Robb specifically. Not so much because he stood up to someone obnoxious (he'd done that plenty of times before!) but because nailed the narcisitic part right on the head. Very perceptive. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I joined up in 1999 I believe after I bought an ME Super, I was so impressed with the image quality (this was my first Pentax) I went on their website to find out more and clicked on the link to perpetual abuse... Norm Shel Belinkoff wrote: .. have you participated in the PDML, in its various iterations. While sitting in traffic this afternoon, the thought crossed my mind that some of us have been here a *very* long time. While I can't recall exactly when I joined, I think it was some time in 1999, maybe 1998 - before the arrival of many, if not all, of the MZ/ZX cameras I believe, when the LX reigned supreme. That seems like a long time to be on a mailing list, yet there are some folks here who were here when I arrived and who are still here. Bill Robb, Steady Stenquist, Stan Halpin, Rob Studdert, and Steve Larson are just a few names that come to mind. Bill Castleberry, up on the Oregon Coast, was here, disappeared, popped up again briefly, and then disappeared again. Do any of the old timers recall how they heard about the list? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I liked the vocabulary lesson. :-) narcisitic - characteristic of a self-adoring parasite Tom C. From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: RE: How Long ... Antonio Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:57:54 -0500 (EST) Tom C wrote: Here's what some of us said about him... Bill Robb wrote: Well Bob, calling someone an idiot is pretty inflammatory in most peoples book, not to mention rude. Well, Antonio, Let's take this beyond rude. You are a *** a**hole. A bombastic piece of . And a narcisitic sociopath. You don't care about anyone other than yourself. You have no concern for anyones feelings other than your own. Consider yourself lucky that this is an email list, rather than a face to face discussion. I'd be putting the boots to your head about now. I don't suffer fools in silence, and you certainly are a fool. Regards William Robb Ah yes! Now I remember him! I also remember this response from Bill Robb specifically. Not so much because he stood up to someone obnoxious (he'd done that plenty of times before!) but because nailed the narcisitic part right on the head. Very perceptive. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hey, I'm still here... Norm (the Who, Mafud + aliases, Dodo, some of my favorites) Steven Larson wrote: Steve (seen a lot of flakes comes and go, lol) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hmm. Still a blank. Perhaps I should go into Recovered Memory Therapy. I don't remember anyone calling me a Nazi. Usually when they do I disembowel them and feed their faces to dogs, just to prove how liberal I am. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: 05 December 2006 22:00 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: How Long ... Antonio I don't remember that person. Give us some examples of his subcutaneous behaviour. Bob Here's what some of us said about him... On 8 Jul 2004 at 10:24, Norm Baugher wrote: You're damn right Antonio! What does vitriol mean? It's empathy, tolerance, compromise and integration that he doesn't understand :-( Antonio, You're supposed to stop typing your keyboard, and pause for thought. In fact, this is one of the least inflammable photo lists around today. We would _very_ much appreciate your contribution to keep it that way. Of course we all disagree with each other all the time. The clue is on another level; the _ways_ you forfeit your points. Disagreement can be either constructive or a way to make your discussion partners pissed off. It's all in the language. Choose words you would use among strangers you want to befriend. Cheers, Jostein Bob, Not sure what I have lost. Nobody has called the other bob a Nazi. Antonio On 14 Jul 2004, at 21:23, Bob W wrote: Hi, Yea, Antonio, I'm a Nazi. Go revel at the wondrous name you've tacked onto me. All the others on the list will be proud of you, send you many accolades, etc. Naw, they'll just be silent. RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K M lenses) J. C. O'Connell Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:18:43 -0700 After I fully just explained ALL exposure systems in existance, my experience with their usage and pros and cons of each you give a really lame, dumb reply like that? Green button mode aint as good as a true AE mode period. See my last post, I explained why. I don't need to buy or hold or use the the thing to KNOW that. Just like I don't need to go to Alaska to know there is snow there. Go ahead, like your istD but don't try to tell me the sky is green when it is obvious it is blue. Oh, Maybe if I push a a little green button the sky will turn green for me? JCO WHOOPS SORRY - that was JCO in September 2 years ago Antonio Aparicio Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:25:57 -0700 Tom, And there was me all sad because you said you didn't want to talk to me again! LOL. A. On 8 Jul 2004, at 18:14, Tom C wrote: Antonio, I have only one thing to say to you. SHUTUP! Tom C. From: Antonio Aparicio Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME Well Bob, calling someone an idiot is pretty inflammatory in most peoples book, not to mention rude. Well, Antonio, Let's take this beyond rude. You are a *** a**hole. A bombastic piece of . And a narcisitic sociopath. You don't care about anyone other than yourself. You have no concern for anyones feelings other than your own. Consider yourself lucky that this is an email list, rather than a face to face discussion. I'd be putting the boots to your head about now. I don't suffer fools in silence, and you certainly are a fool. Regards William Robb Ahhh the good old days. :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Monday 04 December 2006 00:16, Shel Belinkoff wrote: .. have you participated in the PDML, in its various iterations. While sitting in traffic this afternoon, the thought crossed my mind that some of us have been here a *very* long time. While I can't recall exactly when I joined, I think it was some time in 1999, maybe 1998 - before the arrival of many, if not all, of the MZ/ZX cameras I believe, when the LX reigned supreme. That seems like a long time to be on a mailing list, yet there are some folks here who were here when I arrived and who are still here. Bill Robb, Steady Stenquist, Stan Halpin, Rob Studdert, and Steve Larson are just a few names that come to mind. Bill Castleberry, up on the Oregon Coast, was here, disappeared, popped up again briefly, and then disappeared again. Do any of the old timers recall how they heard about the list? Shel I joined while I lived in Allentown, PA, I think. So it must have been late 1995 or first half 1996. Then I moved to Wichita, KS, then to he Netherlands, then the UK and then back to the Netherlands, I stayed on the list all that time, it is so addictive. I wish the list was free though. It has cost me a lot of money, following the enablement the list gave me. I am waiting for my K10D. I found the list through the website of Pentax USA at the time. -- Frits Wüthrich -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Quoting Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey, I'm still here... Norm Well there goes my day. g Dave (the Who, Mafud + aliases, Dodo, some of my favorites) Steven Larson wrote: Steve (seen a lot of flakes comes and go, lol) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Bob W wrote: Hmm. Still a blank. Perhaps I should go into Recovered Memory Therapy. I don't remember anyone calling me a Nazi. Usually when they do I disembowel them and feed their faces to dogs, just to prove how liberal I am. -- Bob That actually doesn't read like you. Wonder if he misquoted the other Bob? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: 05 December 2006 22:00 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: How Long ... Antonio I don't remember that person. Give us some examples of his subcutaneous behaviour. Bob Here's what some of us said about him... On 8 Jul 2004 at 10:24, Norm Baugher wrote: You're damn right Antonio! What does vitriol mean? It's empathy, tolerance, compromise and integration that he doesn't understand :-( Antonio, You're supposed to stop typing your keyboard, and pause for thought. In fact, this is one of the least inflammable photo lists around today. We would _very_ much appreciate your contribution to keep it that way. Of course we all disagree with each other all the time. The clue is on another level; the _ways_ you forfeit your points. Disagreement can be either constructive or a way to make your discussion partners pissed off. It's all in the language. Choose words you would use among strangers you want to befriend. Cheers, Jostein Bob, Not sure what I have lost. Nobody has called the other bob a Nazi. Antonio On 14 Jul 2004, at 21:23, Bob W wrote: Hi, Yea, Antonio, I'm a Nazi. Go revel at the wondrous name you've tacked onto me. All the others on the list will be proud of you, send you many accolades, etc. Naw, they'll just be silent. RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K M lenses) J. C. O'Connell Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:18:43 -0700 After I fully just explained ALL exposure systems in existance, my experience with their usage and pros and cons of each you give a really lame, dumb reply like that? Green button mode aint as good as a true AE mode period. See my last post, I explained why. I don't need to buy or hold or use the the thing to KNOW that. Just like I don't need to go to Alaska to know there is snow there. Go ahead, like your istD but don't try to tell me the sky is green when it is obvious it is blue. Oh, Maybe if I push a a little green button the sky will turn green for me? JCO WHOOPS SORRY - that was JCO in September 2 years ago Antonio Aparicio Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:25:57 -0700 Tom, And there was me all sad because you said you didn't want to talk to me again! LOL. A. On 8 Jul 2004, at 18:14, Tom C wrote: Antonio, I have only one thing to say to you. SHUTUP! Tom C. From: Antonio Aparicio Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME Well Bob, calling someone an idiot is pretty inflammatory in most peoples book, not to mention rude. Well, Antonio, Let's take this beyond rude. You are a *** a**hole. A bombastic piece of . And a narcisitic sociopath. You don't care about anyone other than yourself. You have no concern for anyones feelings other than your own. Consider yourself lucky that this is an email list, rather than a face to face discussion. I'd be putting the boots to your head about now. I don't suffer fools in silence, and you certainly are a fool. Regards William Robb Ahhh the good old days. :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hmm. Still a blank. Perhaps I should go into Recovered Memory Therapy. I don't remember anyone calling me a Nazi. Usually when they do I disembowel them and feed their faces to dogs, just to prove how liberal I am. -- Bob I take it you don't remember what I called you then? Tom C. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: 05 December 2006 22:00 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: How Long ... Antonio I don't remember that person. Give us some examples of his subcutaneous behaviour. Bob Here's what some of us said about him... On 8 Jul 2004 at 10:24, Norm Baugher wrote: You're damn right Antonio! What does vitriol mean? It's empathy, tolerance, compromise and integration that he doesn't understand :-( Antonio, You're supposed to stop typing your keyboard, and pause for thought. In fact, this is one of the least inflammable photo lists around today. We would _very_ much appreciate your contribution to keep it that way. Of course we all disagree with each other all the time. The clue is on another level; the _ways_ you forfeit your points. Disagreement can be either constructive or a way to make your discussion partners pissed off. It's all in the language. Choose words you would use among strangers you want to befriend. Cheers, Jostein Bob, Not sure what I have lost. Nobody has called the other bob a Nazi. Antonio On 14 Jul 2004, at 21:23, Bob W wrote: Hi, Yea, Antonio, I'm a Nazi. Go revel at the wondrous name you've tacked onto me. All the others on the list will be proud of you, send you many accolades, etc. Naw, they'll just be silent. RE: *ist series support for setting the aperture on the lens (was: ist D AE mode for K M lenses) J. C. O'Connell Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:18:43 -0700 After I fully just explained ALL exposure systems in existance, my experience with their usage and pros and cons of each you give a really lame, dumb reply like that? Green button mode aint as good as a true AE mode period. See my last post, I explained why. I don't need to buy or hold or use the the thing to KNOW that. Just like I don't need to go to Alaska to know there is snow there. Go ahead, like your istD but don't try to tell me the sky is green when it is obvious it is blue. Oh, Maybe if I push a a little green button the sky will turn green for me? JCO WHOOPS SORRY - that was JCO in September 2 years ago Antonio Aparicio Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:25:57 -0700 Tom, And there was me all sad because you said you didn't want to talk to me again! LOL. A. On 8 Jul 2004, at 18:14, Tom C wrote: Antonio, I have only one thing to say to you. SHUTUP! Tom C. From: Antonio Aparicio Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Why can't they just... was Re: Anyone still using windows ME Well Bob, calling someone an idiot is pretty inflammatory in most peoples book, not to mention rude. Well, Antonio, Let's take this beyond rude. You are a *** a**hole. A bombastic piece of . And a narcisitic sociopath. You don't care about anyone other than yourself. You have no concern for anyones feelings other than your own. Consider yourself lucky that this is an email list, rather than a face to face discussion. I'd be putting the boots to your head about now. I don't suffer fools in silence, and you certainly are a fool. Regards William Robb Ahhh the good old days. :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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lol, Dobo has to be my favorite, sharp as a marble. Steve - Original Message - From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 3:01 PM Subject: Re: How Long ... Hey, I'm still here... Norm (the Who, Mafud + aliases, Dodo, some of my favorites) Steven Larson wrote: Steve (seen a lot of flakes comes and go, lol) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I had forgotten, good times... --- Note quotation marks denoting irony. mike wilson wrote: Bob W wrote: I think Brad Dobo was the pinnacle of lunacy. He probably holds the record for becoming persona non grata in the shortest amount of time. Hmmm... Anyone remember that italian guy working in UK? I think Cotty managed to dig up that he was an awarded author of technical documentation. For astronomy, I think. For someone with his head higher than the clouds, he certainly managed to get under a lot of folks' skin. I don't remember that person. Give us some examples of his subcutaneous behaviour. Bob Odd. He mentioned you personally. Taken out of context, they don't look as bad as some others but he had such supercilious air it was difficult to hold a conversation with him on any level. Let me know when you've had enough. === Antonio Aparicio Mon, 17 May 2004 14:46:55 -0700 Jostein, so would one of the unwritten rules of this list be that you can only disagree if you do so constructively and that you must try and befriend those you are debating things with? Antonio Antonio Sat, 14 Aug 2004 23:25:28 -0700 I'll reply to the bit of you post that acutally is relevant tot he topic. For the last time (I hope). When people sax an xmm lens is the 35mm equivalent of a ymm lens they are not saying it is exacctly the same in all respects, but rather the AOV is simimilar because of the crop factor brought about by the smaller digital sensor. It is not a literal statement as you, greyworld and peter alling seem to read it. |Antonio = Antonio Sat, 14 Aug 2004 07:45:07 -0700 Trolling again William? Why is it so hard for you to accept that most people use and understand the term 35mm equivalent when refering to non-35mm formats? A. = Antonio Sat, 14 Aug 2004 13:46:55 -0700 Yet another abusive post ERN. Very good. Well done. I am sure your gallery will love it. However calling someone a Jackass doesnt win an argument, nor make you right, it just makes you look abusive. 50mm becomes xmm on a digital camera is easy enough to understand, as is the 35mm equivalent of lens x is y. Both are acceptable phrasing and language - only you, greyworld and alling seem to have problems with it. The rest of the web, and some more authoritative sites than this seem to use them without a problem. I have not misrepresented greyworld at all. Did you miss the bit that said (and I quote): My 50mm lens becomes 200mm lens is just BS pure and simple. The whole thing seems to be a form of penis envy, Mine is bigger than yours. It is not bullshit as greyworld has said - it means that my 50mm lens becomes a xmm lens (i.e. The AOV changes) when you use it on a digital camera. Antonio P.s. Penis envy is a term originally applied to women, as they do not have a penis of their own ;-). Antonio Mon, 16 Aug 2004 10:25:43 -0700 Don¹t worry Norm, you were included amongst the few others, along with the other sheep (Coty, Don Co.) By the way, what is it with you guys and Penis size? Antonio On 16/8/04 2:15 am, Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget me, you little prick. - We were all thinking this. Norm From: Antonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] In fact I am starting to get a feel for who the abusers are on this list (you, Tom C, Greyworld, Peter Alling, Bob W and a few others). === -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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P. J. Alling wrote: I had forgotten, good times... --- Note quotation marks denoting irony. Ooh! I just remembered another! This guy also (quite coincidentally) had one of the best names I've ever come across: Nitin Garg. Another one who earned the well-deserved wrath or Mr. Robb. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hmm. Still a blank. Perhaps I should go into Recovered Memory Therapy. I don't remember anyone calling me a Nazi. Usually when they do I disembowel them and feed their faces to dogs, just to prove how liberal I am. -- Bob I take it you don't remember what I called you then? Oh, yes. You I keep tabs on... (FX: sound of knive on grinder; distant barking of dogs) Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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The list certainly has seen it's share of interesting characters - Valentine, Mafud, The Who... Then there are the less colorful but unforgotten - Steve Graham, Roberto Burgos and others... - MCC K.Takeshita wrote: On 12/04/06 7:10 PM, Bob Sullivan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Valentin the 'Caveman' was with us Oh, Valentine! I remember two PhD's in geology battling out every turn of corners of threads, which was becoming a sort of institution' of the days. I thought the Who was cute and did not really bother me. There were more colourful character those days. There also was a self-proclaimed PJ (forgot his name) but some say he was a.k.a. Kirkland Ramsey? And there was a lunatic Bruce R. It seems that when digital almost suddenly swept us, the list became a bit techno-geek oriented and those interesting characters left. Or Pentax was so slow on everything and they probably jumped the ship. But it is amazing that this list kept its basic character which you cannot find in any other lists :-). Ken -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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That cracks me up, forgot about that one... Norm mike wilson wrote: On 16/8/04 2:15 am, Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget me, you little prick. - We were all thinking this. Norm From: Antonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] In fact I am starting to get a feel for who the abusers are on this list (you, Tom C, Greyworld, Peter Alling, Bob W and a few others). === -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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And how so? Norm William Robb wrote: From: Mark Roberts Ah yes! Now I remember him! I also remember this response from Bill Robb specifically. Not so much because he stood up to someone obnoxious (he'd done that plenty of times before!) but because nailed the narcisitic part right on the head. Very perceptive. That was embarrassing -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: RE: How Long ... Antonio Ah yes! Now I remember him! I also remember this response from Bill Robb specifically. Not so much because he stood up to someone obnoxious (he'd done that plenty of times before!) but because nailed the narcisitic part right on the head. Very perceptive. That was embarrassing William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Sorry. :-( Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: RE: How Long ... Antonio Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 19:01:04 -0600 - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: RE: How Long ... Antonio Ah yes! Now I remember him! I also remember this response from Bill Robb specifically. Not so much because he stood up to someone obnoxious (he'd done that plenty of times before!) but because nailed the narcisitic part right on the head. Very perceptive. That was embarrassing William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I'm trying to think of why I missed that - and then I saw the date (16/8/04 in uS = 8/16/04) I was, happily, on the road again.I do remember him though. ann Norm Baugher wrote: That cracks me up, forgot about that one... Norm mike wilson wrote: On 16/8/04 2:15 am, Norman Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget me, you little prick. - We were all thinking this. Norm From: Antonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] In fact I am starting to get a feel for who the abusers are on this list (you, Tom C, Greyworld, Peter Alling, Bob W and a few others). === -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Dec 3, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I think it was 2001 that the list was liberated. The list guy would know for sure. Paul Yep, Christmas 2000 the guy who ran the server for Pentax went on vacation, and the whole thing blew up. I had just been contacted a few weeks before that about taking over, and had just started looking at the software. The implosion sort of forced our hand, and I just ran the whole thing up live, figuring I'd catch on to the software eventually. I think another five, six years, I'll have it down. Doug Brewer http://www.drivingtheflies.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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You did good, Doug. -graywolf Doug Brewer wrote: On Dec 3, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I think it was 2001 that the list was liberated. The list guy would know for sure. Paul Yep, Christmas 2000 the guy who ran the server for Pentax went on vacation, and the whole thing blew up. I had just been contacted a few weeks before that about taking over, and had just started looking at the software. The implosion sort of forced our hand, and I just ran the whole thing up live, figuring I'd catch on to the software eventually. I think another five, six years, I'll have it down. Doug Brewer http://www.drivingtheflies.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I seem to recall that you did. -graywolf Bob W wrote: Hmm. Still a blank. Perhaps I should go into Recovered Memory Therapy. I don't remember anyone calling me a Nazi. Usually when they do I disembowel them and feed their faces to dogs, just to prove how liberal I am. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I've been around since the days of Pentax patronage... sometime in 99, probably. I fell away for a little while but I've been here steady since at least 2002. Cory In stereo - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML PDML@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 6:16 PM Subject: How Long ... .. have you participated in the PDML, in its various iterations. While sitting in traffic this afternoon, the thought crossed my mind that some of us have been here a *very* long time. While I can't recall exactly when I joined, I think it was some time in 1999, maybe 1998 - before the arrival of many, if not all, of the MZ/ZX cameras I believe, when the LX reigned supreme. That seems like a long time to be on a mailing list, yet there are some folks here who were here when I arrived and who are still here. Bill Robb, Steady Stenquist, Stan Halpin, Rob Studdert, and Steve Larson are just a few names that come to mind. Bill Castleberry, up on the Oregon Coast, was here, disappeared, popped up again briefly, and then disappeared again. Do any of the old timers recall how they heard about the list? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/565 - Release Date: 12/2/2006 9:39 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I got tired of not seeing email whenever I opened Outlook Express, so I joined the PDML. Not too late in the year for Mark! to collect that one... I think I joined in about 1998/9 because I had a problem with an LX. I don't like to think about how long ago that is. I found it from a link on the Pentax website. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 December 2006 00:48 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: How Long ... I joined in the late 1990s. I got tired of not seeing email whenever I opened Outlook Express, so I joined the PDML. I don't recall how I found out about it. Jim A. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hanging here, with just a couple short breaks, since August/September 1997. As soon as I went online, I started looking for everything Pentax, so I found the PDML (then more or less managed by Pentax USA). Dario - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML PDML@pdml.net Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 12:16 AM Subject: How Long ... .. have you participated in the PDML, in its various iterations. While sitting in traffic this afternoon, the thought crossed my mind that some of us have been here a *very* long time. While I can't recall exactly when I joined, I think it was some time in 1999, maybe 1998 - before the arrival of many, if not all, of the MZ/ZX cameras I believe, when the LX reigned supreme. That seems like a long time to be on a mailing list, yet there are some folks here who were here when I arrived and who are still here. Bill Robb, Steady Stenquist, Stan Halpin, Rob Studdert, and Steve Larson are just a few names that come to mind. Bill Castleberry, up on the Oregon Coast, was here, disappeared, popped up again briefly, and then disappeared again. Do any of the old timers recall how they heard about the list? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Me too. Altavista was perceived as THE search engine back then. Dario - Original Message - From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 2:11 AM Subject: Re: How Long ... On 04/12/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tough question. I think I googled Pentax. Har, I think I AltaVista'd it :-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I'm only new. I subscribed on the 23rd January '05, introduced myself on the 26th. (Not even 2 years!!!. It feels longer :-) Before then I had spent about 5-6 months lurking in the archive. I came across, the PDML (archive) while searching for information on the *istD. Cheers, Dave On 12/4/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. have you participated in the PDML, in its various iterations. While sitting in traffic this afternoon, the thought crossed my mind that some of us have been here a *very* long time. While I can't recall exactly when I joined, I think it was some time in 1999, maybe 1998 - before the arrival of many, if not all, of the MZ/ZX cameras I believe, when the LX reigned supreme. That seems like a long time to be on a mailing list, yet there are some folks here who were here when I arrived and who are still here. Bill Robb, Steady Stenquist, Stan Halpin, Rob Studdert, and Steve Larson are just a few names that come to mind. Bill Castleberry, up on the Oregon Coast, was here, disappeared, popped up again briefly, and then disappeared again. Do any of the old timers recall how they heard about the list? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I'm not sure if I have or will pass, how long is that period? I'm still one of the new guys as I've only been here since summer 2003... DagT Fra: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just passed the period of probation :-) greetings Markus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/03 Sun PM 11:16:21 GMT To: PDML PDML@pdml.net Subject: How Long ... .. have you participated in the PDML, in its various iterations. While sitting in traffic this afternoon, the thought crossed my mind that some of us have been here a *very* long time. While I can't recall exactly when I joined, I think it was some time in 1999, maybe 1998 - before the arrival of many, if not all, of the MZ/ZX cameras I believe, when the LX reigned supreme. That seems like a long time to be on a mailing list, yet there are some folks here who were here when I arrived and who are still here. Bill Robb, Steady Stenquist, Stan Halpin, Rob Studdert, and Steve Larson are just a few names that come to mind. Bill Castleberry, up on the Oregon Coast, was here, disappeared, popped up again briefly, and then disappeared again. Do any of the old timers recall how they heard about the list? I think your memory may be playing tricks, because you were here before me (I think) and I was here early '98 or before. Found it by trawling the Pentax USA website, looking for information on LX accessories. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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1996. I found the list following a link in Pentax USA website, if I remember well. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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My older filed message is form 2001, but that's because I changed my email address...I think that it was late 1998 or 1999 when I first subscribed. __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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That might have been my first post, although I definitely remember being here in 99. My first PUG was sometime early in 2000. Too busy to look now. Paul On Dec 3, 2006, at 10:30 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: Re: How Long ... Anal retentive response, Bill. So you've only been here a few months longer than me? Nope, January 14, 2000 is when Paul Stenquist came aboard. I'm pretty sure I found the place in the fall of 1997. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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The earliest message I have in my archive is one I sent to the list on 5 January 2000, but I'm sure I was around before that. I tend to just sit back quietly and read most of the time. I heard about the list off one of the various forums that were around at the time when someone mentioned that the reason for the lack of any Pentax participation was that everyone who used Pentax equipment was on this list. So I came over and have never left. I remember downloading many thousands of messages after a 6 week trip away and spending weeks scanning it all for interesting threads. -- Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon Shel Belinkoff wrote: .. have you participated in the PDML, in its various iterations. While sitting in traffic this afternoon, the thought crossed my mind that some of us have been here a *very* long time. While I can't recall exactly when I joined, I think it was some time in 1999, maybe 1998 - before the arrival of many, if not all, of the MZ/ZX cameras I believe, when the LX reigned supreme. That seems like a long time to be on a mailing list, yet there are some folks here who were here when I arrived and who are still here. Bill Robb, Steady Stenquist, Stan Halpin, Rob Studdert, and Steve Larson are just a few names that come to mind. Bill Castleberry, up on the Oregon Coast, was here, disappeared, popped up again briefly, and then disappeared again. Do any of the old timers recall how they heard about the list? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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My first PUG submission was to the very first PUG. It was also my last submission, guilty me. Dario - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:54 AM Subject: Re: How Long ... That might have been my first post, although I definitely remember being here in 99. My first PUG was sometime early in 2000. Too busy to look now. Paul On Dec 3, 2006, at 10:30 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: Re: How Long ... Anal retentive response, Bill. So you've only been here a few months longer than me? Nope, January 14, 2000 is when Paul Stenquist came aboard. I'm pretty sure I found the place in the fall of 1997. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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feb'02, iirc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Sun, 3 Dec 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote: .. have you participated in the PDML, in its various iterations. 22 July 2003. I found out about it as I was struggling with the aperture simulator of my MZ-50 missing and decided to buy a MZ-5n or a MZ-6. I asked a question about the relative merits; the first person to answer was gfen, the second was Boris. Blame them... Actually I had been browsing the archive for aperture-simulator reasons since March of that year. One of the first posts that I read off there was Boj's goodbye. As for enablement... Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Do any of the old timers recall how they heard about the list? I hadn't a clue, but just searched the archives online and found my first pdml message; dated December 13, 2001... which, I'm guessing, doesn't qualify me for an old timer g Nonetheless, to answer your question, Mark Cassino was the first person I started corresponding with on the list... but I can't remember if I found him via the list or vice versa. If it's the former, then I'd say I likely found it via a web search or a reference on a photo.net forum. __ Jerome Reyes Photography http://exposedfilm.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Dario Bonazza wrote: My first PUG submission was to the very first PUG. It was also my last submission, guilty me. Dario Speaking of which, April 2007 will be the 10th Anniversary of the PUG, so perhaps, in the light of needing theme ideas, something about that could be considered. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hmm. I'm not sure how long I've been on the list. I'm guessing about 1998. Certainly it was in the days before Doug took over. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Here are some theme ideas for it: 10 X Celebration Pictures Galleries Pugs (small dogs) (let's not do that one) Beer Single malts Minutiae -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Brewer Sent: 04 December 2006 13:59 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: How Long ... Dario Bonazza wrote: My first PUG submission was to the very first PUG. It was also my last submission, guilty me. Dario Speaking of which, April 2007 will be the 10th Anniversary of the PUG, so perhaps, in the light of needing theme ideas, something about that could be considered. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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So my photo entry couldn't be in the first PUG as I happened to remember. It was the fourth one: July/August 1997 (just checked the PUG archives). Dario - Original Message - From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 2:59 PM Subject: Re: How Long ... Dario Bonazza wrote: My first PUG submission was to the very first PUG. It was also my last submission, guilty me. Dario Speaking of which, April 2007 will be the 10th Anniversary of the PUG, so perhaps, in the light of needing theme ideas, something about that could be considered. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/04 Mon PM 01:59:02 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: How Long ... Dario Bonazza wrote: My first PUG submission was to the very first PUG. It was also my last submission, guilty me. Dario Speaking of which, April 2007 will be the 10th Anniversary of the PUG, so perhaps, in the light of needing theme ideas, something about that could be considered. Theme 10 8-) - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/04 Mon PM 02:13:16 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: How Long ... Here are some theme ideas for it: snip Beer Single malts Minutiae I see a theme developing. Just because he's called Brewer, you don't need to mention the affliction. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hmmm - maybe snaps of Pentaxians we met in real life after meeting them here? Just a thought ann Doug Brewer wrote: Dario Bonazza wrote: My first PUG submission was to the very first PUG. It was also my last submission, guilty me. Dario Speaking of which, April 2007 will be the 10th Anniversary of the PUG, so perhaps, in the light of needing theme ideas, something about that could be considered. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Shel Belinkoff wrote: .. have you participated in the PDML, in its various iterations. Do any of the old timers recall how they heard about the list? Shel Either 1999 or early 2000 for me. I got on the list after I sold a 300mm prime to a list memeber named Terry something. He later wrote me that he had gotten published, sort of and sent me a link to the PUG. I sent a photo in to it of Capitol Reef, simultaneously joining the list... which was also the start of a cyberpalship with Wheatfield (aka Bill Robb) due to our admiration for Southeast Utah. It has always been a pleasure to meet listies in person over the years. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Here are some theme ideas for it: snip Beer Single malts Minutiae I see a theme developing. Just because he's called Brewer, you don't need to mention the affliction. There's a very important anniversary tomorrow for our bourbon-drinking colonial cousins (and those canny Highlanders with their wee kilts and peaty bournes), which we should all join them in celebrating appropriately: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-first_Amendment_to_the_United_Stat es_Constitution Na zdarovye! Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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It depends. Frank and Cotty have been on probation for years! Rick --- SJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am just wondering how long before i pass the period of probation... :)) regards, subash On 12/4/06, Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just passed the period of probation :-) greetings Markus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 12/4/06, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm - maybe snaps of Pentaxians we met in real life after meeting them here? Just a thought ann That's kinda what I was thinking, too. 10 wouldn't bother me. I think I first came to the list back in 2002 or 2003. Stuck around for a few days, switched to digest, then lost interest. I can't read the digest mode. I resubbed almost two years ago once I had an email account that would handle the load without requiring me to sort/delete every day. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Why not both of them? '10' and PDMLer portraits. 10 years online...this deserves more than one dedicated month ;-) - Mensaje original De: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: lunes, 4 de diciembre, 2006 16:26:24 Asunto: Re: How Long ... On 12/4/06, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm - maybe snaps of Pentaxians we met in real life after meeting them here? Just a thought ann That's kinda what I was thinking, too. 10 wouldn't bother me. I think I first came to the list back in 2002 or 2003. Stuck around for a few days, switched to digest, then lost interest. I can't read the digest mode. I resubbed almost two years ago once I had an email account that would handle the load without requiring me to sort/delete every day. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Yes ... that might be nice ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: ann sanfedele Hmmm - maybe snaps of Pentaxians we met in real life after meeting them here? Just a thought ann Doug Brewer wrote: Speaking of which, April 2007 will be the 10th Anniversary of the PUG, so perhaps, in the light of needing theme ideas, something about that could be considered. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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LOL Hey, you only saw one of three I took that day. I'm going to send you what I think is a nicer one off list. Shel [Original Message] From: ann sanfedele ohoh be careful, Shel! ann Shel Belinkoff wrote: Yes ... that might be nice ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: ann sanfedele Hmmm - maybe snaps of Pentaxians we met in real life after meeting them here? Just a thought ann Doug Brewer wrote: Speaking of which, April 2007 will be the 10th Anniversary of the PUG, so perhaps, in the light of needing theme ideas, something about that could be considered. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Why not both of them? '10' and PDMLer portraits. 10 years online...this deserves more than one dedicated month ;-) I was thinking mainly of shots we took of someone else on the list that we met subsequently / due to meeting on the list. I ann - Mensaje original De: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: lunes, 4 de diciembre, 2006 16:26:24 Asunto: Re: How Long ... On 12/4/06, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm - maybe snaps of Pentaxians we met in real life after meeting them here? Just a thought ann That's kinda what I was thinking, too. 10 wouldn't bother me. I think I first came to the list back in 2002 or 2003. Stuck around for a few days, switched to digest, then lost interest. I can't read the digest mode. I resubbed almost two years ago once I had an email account that would handle the load without requiring me to sort/delete every day. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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ohoh be careful, Shel! ann Shel Belinkoff wrote: Yes ... that might be nice ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: ann sanfedele Hmmm - maybe snaps of Pentaxians we met in real life after meeting them here? Just a thought ann Doug Brewer wrote: Speaking of which, April 2007 will be the 10th Anniversary of the PUG, so perhaps, in the light of needing theme ideas, something about that could be considered. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Yes, that is what I understood, and I think that it is a great idea for a 2007 PUG theme. I also liked the theme '10', so I proposed to use it for another month in 2007 (not the same as the previous one). - Mensaje original De: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: lunes, 4 de diciembre, 2006 17:38:43 Asunto: Re: How Long ... Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Why not both of them? '10' and PDMLer portraits. 10 years online...this deserves more than one dedicated month ;-) I was thinking mainly of shots we took of someone else on the list that we met subsequently / due to meeting on the list. I ann - Mensaje original De: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: lunes, 4 de diciembre, 2006 16:26:24 Asunto: Re: How Long ... On 12/4/06, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm - maybe snaps of Pentaxians we met in real life after meeting them here? Just a thought ann That's kinda what I was thinking, too. 10 wouldn't bother me. I think I first came to the list back in 2002 or 2003. Stuck around for a few days, switched to digest, then lost interest. I can't read the digest mode. I resubbed almost two years ago once I had an email account that would handle the load without requiring me to sort/delete every day. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I just passed the period of probation :-) Are you sure ? ;+} Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How Long ... I just passed the period of probation :-) greetings Markus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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That's what I did too, in '97. I had just got a Pentium 100 machine, iirc. Jostein On 12/4/06, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 04/12/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tough question. I think I googled Pentax. Har, I think I AltaVista'd it :-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Theme 10 Things associated with the 10th anniversary - Tin, Aluminum Silver blue Daffodil Diamonds HTH Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How Long ... From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/04 Mon PM 01:59:02 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: How Long ... Dario Bonazza wrote: My first PUG submission was to the very first PUG. It was also my last submission, guilty me. Dario Speaking of which, April 2007 will be the 10th Anniversary of the PUG, so perhaps, in the light of needing theme ideas, something about that could be considered. Theme 10 8-) - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Just because he's called Brewer, you don't need to mention the affliction. Yeah, hop to it. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How Long ... From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/04 Mon PM 02:13:16 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: How Long ... Here are some theme ideas for it: snip Beer Single malts Minutiae I see a theme developing. Just because he's called Brewer, you don't need to mention the affliction. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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There's a very important anniversary tomorrow for our bourbon-drinking colonial cousins (and those canny Highlanders with their wee kilts and peaty bournes), which we should all join them in celebrating appropriately: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-first_Amendment_to_the_United_Stat es_Constitution I'll drink to that - Knob Creek, my poison of choice. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How Long ... Here are some theme ideas for it: snip Beer Single malts Minutiae I see a theme developing. Just because he's called Brewer, you don't need to mention the affliction. There's a very important anniversary tomorrow for our bourbon-drinking colonial cousins (and those canny Highlanders with their wee kilts and peaty bournes), which we should all join them in celebrating appropriately: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-first_Amendment_to_the_United_Stat es_Constitution Na zdarovye! Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I think it was the falll of 1998 for me. I also found the link from the Pentax website. My first post was on the purchase of a PZ-1p and how camera shops tried to avoid selling it to me. In the end they didn't. I bought it over the web from Camera World of Oregon, before they were just another Ritz outfit. Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: How Long ... Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 17:34:41 -0600 - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: How Long ... .. have you participated in the PDML, in its various iterations. Do any of the old timers recall how they heard about the list? Probably the fall of 1997. I found the PDML via a link off the Pentax USA website. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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subash, don't worry about experience, probation or any of that stuff. Just comment when you have a comment to make. the comments of even relative newcomers can be surprising and insightful. i've been on this mailing list since january 2005 G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Earliest evidence I can find in my personal archives is May1998. Been in and out numerous times since then. dk On 12/3/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. have you participated in the PDML, in its various iterations. While sitting in traffic this afternoon, the thought crossed my mind that some of us have been here a *very* long time. While I can't recall exactly when I joined, I think it was some time in 1999, maybe 1998 - before the arrival of many, if not all, of the MZ/ZX cameras I believe, when the LX reigned supreme. That seems like a long time to be on a mailing list, yet there are some folks here who were here when I arrived and who are still here. Bill Robb, Steady Stenquist, Stan Halpin, Rob Studdert, and Steve Larson are just a few names that come to mind. Bill Castleberry, up on the Oregon Coast, was here, disappeared, popped up again briefly, and then disappeared again. Do any of the old timers recall how they heard about the list? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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There's a very important anniversary tomorrow for our bourbon-drinking colonial cousins (and those canny Highlanders with their wee kilts and peaty bournes), which we should all join them in celebrating appropriately: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-first_Amendment_to_the_United_Stat es_Constitution I'll drink to that - Knob Creek, my poison of choice. Kenneth Waller Really? You're sure it's not a medical condition? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 3/12/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: January 14, 2000. My 40th birthday. William Robb is 73. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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1998. Sucked in with a question about re-celling a battery pack for a motor drive for the MX. A certain Aussie responded with fabulous instructions on his web site. I promised him a beer. The bleeder only came over and collected it (the beer, not the battery pack ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Since Friday December 1st 2006. (two days after my k10d arrived). I did lurk for a couple of months back in March on a tip from this fellow I know from when I used to live back east. Claims he isn't a post-modern bard. Michael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 3/12/06, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: I saw the pdml, clicked the link, decided that Doug was funny, a nd signed up. ROTFL Excellent. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 3/12/06, John Poirier, discombobulated, unleashed: Hi. I've been lurking on this list since sometime in the late 90s. I've rarely participated because my day job involved demanding imaging work and I didn't feel much like trying to interact on a computer on my down time. I have greatly enjoyed monitoring the group, though. I recently retired and moved, so will have much more time to mess around with with my own gear. Just got a film scanner going a few minutes ago. I'm looking forward to posting some pics and getting involved with the group. John Poirier Hi John, Er, film is dead. You have a sc..scscaaaner? That how you pronounce it?? (With apologies to Bob Newhart ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 12/4/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what I did too, in '97. I had just got a Pentium 100 machine, iirc. And what, Jostein, did you think you were joining the Pentium Discuss Mail List? ;-) -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 12/3/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. have you participated in the PDML, in its various iterations. snip Do any of the old timers recall how they heard about the list? Well, I don't consider myself an old timer, but I've been here a while, I guess. Got my first computer around the spring of 2000 - the girl I just broke up with gave it to me (out of guilt? pity?). I know that I got onto a Spotmatic discussion group (Peter Jonkman's) which morphed into a Group that was taken over by Yahoo - afaik, they're still there. Someone from that Spottie group (a certain Ray Allen of Sydney, Oz, FWIW) told me about this one, and I think I started lurking somewhere around the summer or early fall of 2000. Started posting/submitting to PUG shortly thereafter, if memory serves. So, my best guess would be mid-2000 sometime. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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LOL Did you say Puntiu...? Nah, couldn't be. Cheers, Jostein PS. Actually, computer generations are a good way of matching timeframes for other events. :-) And coming to think of it, I think I actually joined some time in autumn-96. It was the list and PUG that inspired me to make my own first webpage. On 12/4/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/4/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what I did too, in '97. I had just got a Pentium 100 machine, iirc. And what, Jostein, did you think you were joining the Pentium Discuss Mail List? ;-) -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Cotty wrote: On 3/12/06, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: I saw the pdml, clicked the link, decided that Doug was funny, a nd signed up. ROTFL Excellent. Since you didn't say it I will: Mark! All right. Got it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: How Long ... On 3/12/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: January 14, 2000. My 40th birthday. William Robb is 73. I feel much younger.. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I can't exactly pinpoint the time I began to subscribe here. Pentax still supported the list on their server. The Who was babbling badly (Imagine a poor English speaker who contested everything in an incoherent way and wouldn't shut up.) Valentin the 'Caveman' was with us as was Roberto Burgos from Costa Rica. The PUG was on hiatus, and I didn't know it. A guy from the Philippines suggested having a gallery and I sent him a picture of a squirrel in a blizzard at my feeder. He published a few pictures and then the list got embarrassed and recalled that they had done this earlier, but had let it slip. It was revived and really grew. I learned that my best camera, my PZ-1, didn't matrix meter with anything older than an 'A' lens (Thanks Ken) and was enabled to buy all manner of gear. Regards, Bob S. On 12/4/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/3/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. have you participated in the PDML, in its various iterations. snip Do any of the old timers recall how they heard about the list? Well, I don't consider myself an old timer, but I've been here a while, I guess. Got my first computer around the spring of 2000 - the girl I just broke up with gave it to me (out of guilt? pity?). I know that I got onto a Spotmatic discussion group (Peter Jonkman's) which morphed into a Group that was taken over by Yahoo - afaik, they're still there. Someone from that Spottie group (a certain Ray Allen of Sydney, Oz, FWIW) told me about this one, and I think I started lurking somewhere around the summer or early fall of 2000. Started posting/submitting to PUG shortly thereafter, if memory serves. So, my best guess would be mid-2000 sometime. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 12/04/06 7:10 PM, Bob Sullivan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Valentin the 'Caveman' was with us Oh, Valentine! I remember two PhD's in geology battling out every turn of corners of threads, which was becoming a sort of institution' of the days. I thought the Who was cute and did not really bother me. There were more colourful character those days. There also was a self-proclaimed PJ (forgot his name) but some say he was a.k.a. Kirkland Ramsey? And there was a lunatic Bruce R. It seems that when digital almost suddenly swept us, the list became a bit techno-geek oriented and those interesting characters left. Or Pentax was so slow on everything and they probably jumped the ship. But it is amazing that this list kept its basic character which you cannot find in any other lists :-). Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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K.Takeshita wrote: Bob Sullivan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Valentin the 'Caveman' was with us Oh, Valentine! I remember two PhD's in geology battling out every turn of corners of threads, which was becoming a sort of institution' of the days. I thought the Who was cute and did not really bother me. There were more colourful character those days. There also was a self-proclaimed PJ (forgot his name) but some say he was a.k.a. Kirkland Ramsey? Oh man, Suda Mafud, AKA Kirkland Ramsey, AKA MT Greene AKA several others (Doug has told me he's been re-subbed under a variety of names, albeit briefly). Now there was a character. And there was a lunatic Bruce R. Bruce was a lunatic and a classic Nikon Weenie (that's a term the people at *Nikon* use!) but he at least knew a thing or two about photography. I think Brad Dobo was the pinnacle of lunacy. He probably holds the record for becoming persona non grata in the shortest amount of time. The first year Norm Baugher showed up at GFM he introduced himself to Tom Van Veen with Hi, I'm Brad Dobo. I just wish I'd witnessed it! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
