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On 12/5/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >Thats "whisky" you heathen sasanack. D'oh! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: worst day yet for list problems I'm a glass half full kind of guy. Well stop drinking that muck you call whiskey. Thats "whisky" you heathen sasanack. William Robb
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- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: worst day yet for list problems There's always self abuse ;-)) I hear it can be very gratifying. I'm married. Those issues are dealt with on a daily basis. William Robb
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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The only way to know what order the posts were made in with this list at present is to switch to digest mode and read the digests. Or use a mail client like Thunderbird and browse the list in "threaded" mode. That's what I do. S
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On 5/11/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If my friends can't abuse me, then who can? You could always abuse yourself... -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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On 11/5/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >I'm a glass half full kind of guy. Well stop drinking that muck you call whiskey. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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There's always self abuse ;-)) I hear it can be very gratifying. Shel > [Original Message] > From: William Robb > If my friends can't abuse me, then who can?
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You have friends William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: worst day yet for list problems I guess this means we can call you just about anything we want, eh? If my friends can't abuse me, then who can? William Robb -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
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- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: worst day yet for list problems I guess this means we can call you just about anything we want, eh? If my friends can't abuse me, then who can? William Robb
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Norman Baugher wrote: >From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Cotty wrote: >> >>>Hey, mock not yodler. I have a little role for you... >> >> Yodler??? Have you heard my latest? >> http://www.robertstech.com/files/gfm.mp3 >> >Nice Mark, very nice. >Norm > No sarcasm? All right, what have you done with the real Norm Baugher?
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Not mine. No wait, I didn't hit send... Tom C wrote: Ironic that all the posts about list problems seem to be getting through to me though!!! :-) Tom C. From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Subject: Re: worst day yet for list problems Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 16:39:54 -0400 I just downloaded today, first since last night & I have 125 messages to review! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: worst day yet for list problems The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
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Cotty wrote: >On 11/5/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>Yodler??? Have you heard my latest? >>http://www.robertstech.com/files/gfm.mp3 > >Sort of Marillion meets Camelot. > >And there *is* a bit of wailing in the middle there and at the end ;-) > >Very nice, I like it. I'm sure you sent me a CD containing that piece a >while back. Nope, not that one. I only wrote it three weeks ago! >I think it would work well in a cheese-making documentary ;-))) Well you know what they say: Blessed are the cheesemakers.
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On 11/5/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: >You're going to beam a movie of youself into the sky so that it reflects off >the moon rising over the mountain, and make speech, like a Hollywood actor >at the BAFTAs: "Gee, I'm sorry I can't be with y'all fer this award tonight, >but I have to reorganise my sock drawer". That's an insane thought, totally libellous. You think I'm organised enough to keep my socks in a drawer?? Actually I have magical socks. I swear to God, I take them off at night, leave them in a pile and Holy Moses there they are a couple of days later all folded neat and tidy. I must remember to ask my wife where she got such amazing socks from. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 11/5/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: >Yodler??? Have you heard my latest? >http://www.robertstech.com/files/gfm.mp3 Sort of Marillion meets Camelot. And there *is* a bit of wailing in the middle there and at the end ;-) Very nice, I like it. I'm sure you sent me a CD containing that piece a while back. I think it would work well in a cheese-making documentary ;-))) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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> However, I have a cunning plan for a limited > appearance..nyuk nyuk nyuk > > > > > Cheers, > Cotty You're going to beam a movie of youself into the sky so that it reflects off the moon rising over the mountain, and make speech, like a Hollywood actor at the BAFTAs: "Gee, I'm sorry I can't be with y'all fer this award tonight, but I have to reorganise my sock drawer". Bob
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I'll be there Saturday afternoonand yes, that is a threat. laugh here> Norm From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oh my god, is Norm coming to GFM again? Run away!
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Nice Mark, very nice. Norm From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cotty wrote: Hey, mock not yodler. I have a little role for you... Yodler??? Have you heard my latest? http://www.robertstech.com/files/gfm.mp3
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Irony. My mom never figured out the irony in calling me a bastard. For that matter, my dad didn't figure out the irony in calling me a son of a bitch. I don't know if this says more about them or me... WW Maybe both were true? :-) I guess this means we can call you just about anything we want, eh? Tom C.
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Cotty wrote: >Hey, mock not yodler. I have a little role for you... Yodler??? Have you heard my latest? http://www.robertstech.com/files/gfm.mp3
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On 11/5/06, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: >ps: BTW, where the hell does Cotty get off with this "sarcasm >dripping off him" stuff, eh? You're only envious!!! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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The fix must be on. By far the best day for some time. I'm even getting through and receiving responses. Doug may be allowed to get some sleep soon. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Doug is fixing it. But I'm sure that requires a lot of work. We just > have to be patient. I wasn't complaining. Just pointing out the > slowdown. It's been MUCH better today, at least at my station. > Paul > -- Original message -- > From: "Norman Baugher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > I think whoever is managing this list needs to wake up and do > something > > about it! geez > > Norm > > > > > From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > >> The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages > are > > >> getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my > mailbox. > > >> And I've received only about a dozen overall. > > >> > > > > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: worst day yet for list problems Ironic that all the posts about list problems seem to be getting through to me though!!! :-) Irony. My mom never figured out the irony in calling me a bastard. For that matter, my dad didn't figure out the irony in calling me a son of a bitch. I don't know if this says more about them or me... WW
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On 11/5/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: >Oh my god, is Norm coming to GFM again? Run away! Actually I have a soft spot for Norm. It's a peat bog in Yorkshire. > >>Speaking of which, I'm wearing a black armband the week beginning May >>29th. And you know what? because my hours at work have piled up in a >>certain way, my roster queen has given me an extra day off on Monday >>June 6th. Like, rub some more salt in the wound baby. >> >>However, I have a cunning plan for a limited appearance..nyuk nyuk >>nyuk > >Ok... *now* run away! Hey, mock not yodler. I have a little role for you... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 5/11/06, Norman Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's just so inconsiderate of him. Hey, Normie, You gonna fly in for a few hours of GFM? I need someone to bum smokes from... cheers, frank ps: BTW, where the hell does Cotty get off with this "sarcasm dripping off him" stuff, eh? -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Ironic that all the posts about list problems seem to be getting through to me though!!! :-) Tom C. From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Subject: Re: worst day yet for list problems Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 16:39:54 -0400 I just downloaded today, first since last night & I have 125 messages to review! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: worst day yet for list problems The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall.
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Darn Global Warming! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: worst day yet for list problems Damn sunspots :-) I'm using Gmail & I'm not receiving some messages. So I don't think it's necessarily an ISP problem. Dave S. On 5/11/06, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, not here in Boone. In fact the other mail list I am on is bogged down too. Maybe a note to charter.net is in order. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Doug Franklin wrote: > William Robb wrote: >> Other than the occassional out of sequence thread, I don't seem to be >> having any problems with recieving messages. >> You might want to query your ISP regarding where in their chain the >> messages are getting dropped. > > Yep. Everything seems fine here in Atlanta. >
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I just downloaded today, first since last night & I have 125 messages to review! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: worst day yet for list problems The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall.
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Cotty wrote: >Paul, > >Norm's sarcasm literally drips off him. I don't think the man has ever >said anything in his life that wasn't tainted with humor. You will meet >him, it's only a matter of time. Oh my god, is Norm coming to GFM again? Run away! >Speaking of which, I'm wearing a black armband the week beginning May >29th. And you know what? because my hours at work have piled up in a >certain way, my roster queen has given me an extra day off on Monday >June 6th. Like, rub some more salt in the wound baby. > >However, I have a cunning plan for a limited appearance..nyuk nyuk >nyuk Ok... *now* run away!
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It's just so inconsiderate of him. Norm From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Go back to sleep, Norm. Doug has already posted is intended improvements. It probably will be all fixed by next week. Norman Baugher wrote: I think whoever is managing this list needs to wake up and do something about it! geez Norm From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall.
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On 11/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: >Doug is fixing it. But I'm sure that requires a lot of work. We just >have to be patient. I wasn't complaining. Just pointing out the >slowdown. It's been MUCH better today, at least at my station. >Paul Paul, Norm's sarcasm literally drips off him. I don't think the man has ever said anything in his life that wasn't tainted with humor. You will meet him, it's only a matter of time. Speaking of which, I'm wearing a black armband the week beginning May 29th. And you know what? because my hours at work have piled up in a certain way, my roster queen has given me an extra day off on Monday June 6th. Like, rub some more salt in the wound baby. However, I have a cunning plan for a limited appearance..nyuk nyuk nyuk Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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Go back to sleep, Norm. Doug has already posted is intended improvements. It probably will be all fixed by next week. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Norman Baugher wrote: I think whoever is managing this list needs to wake up and do something about it! geez Norm From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall.
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Doug is fixing it. But I'm sure that requires a lot of work. We just have to be patient. I wasn't complaining. Just pointing out the slowdown. It's been MUCH better today, at least at my station. Paul -- Original message -- From: "Norman Baugher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I think whoever is managing this list needs to wake up and do something > about it! geez > Norm > > > From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >> The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are > >> getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. > >> And I've received only about a dozen overall. > >> > > > >
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I think whoever is managing this list needs to wake up and do something about it! geez Norm From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall.
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Sez you! Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Same here for a lot of people's posts. Mind you, this is not a bad way to go. On one or two lists I've participated in, *all* the conversation happened in response to messages from a digest. It gives people time to think before responding and not just react out of hand. I'm not suggesting that this is what Doug should do, BTW, but it does generally reduce bandwidth and produce more thoughtful communications, in my experience. Godfrey On May 11, 2006, at 8:49 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: That also seems to be the only way I can see your posts. The last few days I've seen nothing directly from you on the list, only in the digest. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi The only way to know what order the posts were made in with this list at present is to switch to digest mode and read the digests. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
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I'd tell you, your an evil man, but I think you know that... Cotty wrote: On 11/5/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Have you got somthing against Gmail Cotty? Not at all. Please, go ahead and offer me a couple of dozen :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
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On May 11, 2006, at 9:58 AM, graywolf wrote: On this list the digest has consistently produced posts containing the whole digest as a quote. If I wanted to read a digest I would subscribe to the digest, but I would not post messages to the list from it. Also unless the digest has changed it is hard to follow threads in it. The proper way to reply to a post read from the digest is to: a) hit reply, delete the digest copy quotation that is usually auto- entered b) copy into the reply only the relevant material you want to quote c) replace the subject of the message with "re: subject>" d) add your response e) send to the list address It requires more than just hitting the reply button. I get both (two accounts subscribed) and respond from either, depending upon whether the post I want to respond to has made it to me individually or not. I often check the digest to see if other responses have already been made to a given post. Godfrey
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From: "Steve Jolly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jostein wrote: Apologies for eventual duplicates... Yep, got them both. :-) LOL. I got both your replies, but only the second of my own attempts. The trickle of posts has been quite stable today, but evidently not complete yet. Jostein
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What spam has made it to the list? Shel > [Original Message] > From: graywolf > I do find it funny that so much legitimate email goes > off into limbo, but the spam seems to have no problems > getting here.
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On this list the digest has consistently produced posts containing the whole digest as a quote. If I wanted to read a digest I would subscribe to the digest, but I would not post messages to the list from it. Also unless the digest has changed it is hard to follow threads in it. Doug has said he is changing things, both the list software and the ISP. That will take a while to set up, I guess. I can certainly put up with this for a week or two. I do find it funny that so much legitimate email goes off into limbo, but the spam seems to have no problems getting here. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Same here for a lot of people's posts. Mind you, this is not a bad way to go. On one or two lists I've participated in, *all* the conversation happened in response to messages from a digest. It gives people time to think before responding and not just react out of hand. I'm not suggesting that this is what Doug should do, BTW, but it does generally reduce bandwidth and produce more thoughtful communications, in my experience. Godfrey On May 11, 2006, at 8:49 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: That also seems to be the only way I can see your posts. The last few days I've seen nothing directly from you on the list, only in the digest. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi The only way to know what order the posts were made in with this list at present is to switch to digest mode and read the digests. --No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/335 - Release Date: 5/9/2006
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Same here for a lot of people's posts. Mind you, this is not a bad way to go. On one or two lists I've participated in, *all* the conversation happened in response to messages from a digest. It gives people time to think before responding and not just react out of hand. I'm not suggesting that this is what Doug should do, BTW, but it does generally reduce bandwidth and produce more thoughtful communications, in my experience. Godfrey On May 11, 2006, at 8:49 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: That also seems to be the only way I can see your posts. The last few days I've seen nothing directly from you on the list, only in the digest. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi The only way to know what order the posts were made in with this list at present is to switch to digest mode and read the digests.
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That also seems to be the only way I can see your posts. The last few days I've seen nothing directly from you on the list, only in the digest. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > The only way to know what > order the posts were made in > with this list at present is to > switch to digest mode and read the digests.
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The only way to know what order the posts were made in with this list at present is to switch to digest mode and read the digests. Godfrey
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I think whoever is managing this list needs to wake up and do something about it! geez Norm From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall.
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On 5/11/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/5/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: >Have you got somthing against Gmail Cotty? Not at all. Please, go ahead and offer me a couple of dozen :-) Ahhh. You can't trick me. :-) Dave
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Jostein wrote: > The cumulative response time (latency) is effectively doubled by this, which > could affect email transmission. Especially in high-traffic periods. > > Routing is in general determined by routing agreements between different ISPs > and their network operators, which could contribute to explain why the problem > is different from ISP to ISP. > > Jostein Jostein, In short: unless the latency time is several (many!) seconds (as opposed to tens or hundreds milliseconds) mail traffic will not be affected. If the latency is a few seconds occasionally you can see messages arriving out of order. If you can reliably browse american websites, e-mail traffic will not be affected by the latency time. In a bit more detail: 1. Packet routing is a dynamic process. Besides, it might not be (and very often it is not) symmetric, i.e. packets going from you to another computer could be following a different route from those coming back. 2. If the latency is high, but steady (i.e. doesn't fluctuate wildly), this should not cause TCP packets being lost 3. SMTP protocol implementation is such that if transmission is not successful, it will be retried until completed successfully or until the delay due to retries exceeds some preset time (usual default - 5 days). 4. SMTP protocol (high level protocol used for transmitting e-mails) uses so-called TCP connection (low-level packet transmission protocol), which is capable of retransmitting dropped packets (TCP packets) and reassembling them in the right order if they came out of order due to mildly fluctuating latency. 5. Traceroute that you are using to check packet routing has different implementations and could use different packets (in most cases those are so-called ICMP packets). Depending on the implementation of the router, these packets can have much-much lower priority then the TCP packets, or sometimes could be completely blocked by some ISPs. So, while usually one can get a rather adequate picture using traceroute, in some weird cases, such a picture could be irrelevant to the real situation. I've seen such cases. As far as I can tell, the response time from your ISP to the US does not exceed 200-300 ms which is rather standard for transatlantic connection. Igor
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Doug Franklin wrote: > > William Robb wrote: > > Other than the occassional out of sequence thread, I don't seem to be > > having any problems with recieving messages. > > You might want to query your ISP regarding where in their chain the > > messages are getting dropped. > > Yep. Everything seems fine here in Atlanta. > > -- > Thanks, > DougF (KG4LMZ) Since Sunday (and this is now THursday in my part of the world) the number of posts in my inbox for PDML numbers only 351. I probably wouldn't bother writing this but don't want anyone to think I'm ignoring their replies to something - I only saw one post of mine come back into my PDML folder... and 351 is roughly 1/4 of the number of posts I was used to seeing. I skim anyway, but if my "me too" is at all useful in solving the glitch for any reason, thought I'd pipe up. annsan
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On 11/5/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: >Have you got somthing against Gmail Cotty? Not at all. Please, go ahead and offer me a couple of dozen :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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I'm Comcast, also, and having the same erratic sluggish experience with the list. All other folders appear to be handling mail normally. Jack --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm on comcast. I'm getting all my normal mail. But my outgoing and > incoming list messages are disappearing. I would imagine many other > people on the list are comcast. > Paul > On May 10, 2006, at 11:25 PM, William Robb wrote: > > > Other than the occassional out of sequence thread, I don't seem to > be > > having any problems with recieving messages. > > You might want to query your ISP regarding where in their chain the > > > messages are getting dropped. > > > > William Robb > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" > > Subject: worst day yet for list problems > > > > > >> The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages > are > >> getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my > >> mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall. > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Jostein wrote: Apologies for eventual duplicates... Yep, got them both. :-) S
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Apologies for eventual duplicates... Quoting Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are > getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my > mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall. Join the club, Paul! :-) The number of list oddities has indeed been on the sharp rise lately. I expect that spam is part of the problem, but I think it's not the only problem. >From here, the routing seems to have changed lately. When pinging the list server with NeoTrace!, the signal used to go this way: Norway -> Amsterdam -> New York -> Baltimore Baltimore is as far as NeoTrace! can follow it. Now, however, it takes a more complicated route: Norway -> Amsterdam -> New York -> Southwark (London, UK) -> Washington DC -> Baltimore The cumulative response time (latency) is effectively doubled by this, which could affect email transmission. Especially in high-traffic periods. Routing is in general determined by routing agreements between different ISPs and their network operators, which could contribute to explain why the problem is different from ISP to ISP. Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. - End forwarded message - This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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Quoting Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are > getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my > mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall. Join the club, Paul! :-) The number of list oddities has indeed been on the sharp rise lately. I expect that spam is part of the problem, but I think it's not the only problem. >From here, the routing seems to have changed lately. When pinging the list server with NeoTrace!, the signal used to go this way: Norway -> Amsterdam -> New York -> Baltimore Baltimore is as far as NeoTrace! can follow it. Now, however, it takes a more complicated route: Norway -> Amsterdam -> New York -> Southwark (London, UK) -> Washington DC -> Baltimore The cumulative response time (latency) is effectively doubled by this, which could affect email transmission. Especially in high-traffic periods. Routing is in general determined by routing agreements between different ISPs and their network operators, which could contribute to explain why the problem is different from ISP to ISP. Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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Quoting Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I seem to get most messages, but the timing is very odd. > It has been like that for some time now. And I am frustrated by this. TeleNor has quite good routing agreements with the operators of the American backbones. NextGenTel, which is my provider, has not. :-( Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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I seem to get most messages, but the timing is very odd. It has been like that for some time now. And I am frustrated by this. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11. mai 2006 04:03 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: worst day yet for list problems > > The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are > getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my > mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall. >
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Have you got somthing against Gmail Cotty? Dave S On 5/11/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/5/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: >I'm using Gmail & I'm not receiving some messages. Mark! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 11/5/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: >I'm using Gmail & I'm not receiving some messages. Mark! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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On 11 May 2006 at 1:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I may not be the only one hesitating. Which would certainly also cut down on > traffic. I'm sure you're not, I find it too frustrating to post at the moment, I have to be in a particularly good mood to do so :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:/home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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In a message dated 5/10/2006 7:05:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall. I've had problems with the list for the last year or so. Never sure it doesn't have something to do with me unsubscribing and subscribing repeatedly. But it does seem worse lately. Not seeing original posts, not seeing 1/2 of my own posts show up in my in box, and missing some threads altogether. (I looked at the archive and frank recently posted a biker shot and got replies and never saw that thread at all.) I could say it's AOL, and I like complaining about AOL. :-) But, truthfully, I've never had this happen with any of my other email and not with other mailing lists that I have been on at various times. Not that I have ever been aware of, anyway. AOL has lots of spam filters, it's true, but what it seems to do is to shuffle spam off into a spam in box so I can check them myself. No PDML mail has ever gone into the spam in box. So I don't think it is all downstream from Doug. But I will be patient and see if he can tweak things so they work a bit better. Yes, it's getting highly aggravating (especially since I've been showing PESOs and one GESO lately, and I don't always). I keep wondering if I should wait to post any more PESOs. And it is also making me hesitate to post replies to others' posts because I am not sure if they will ever see them. Or if they will look into the archive to see them. I may not be the only one hesitating. Which would certainly also cut down on traffic. BTW, I made a comment on your last photo, Paul, but it never showed up in my in box. Marnie aka Doe
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- Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: worst day yet for list problems Damn sunspots :-) I'm using Gmail & I'm not receiving some messages. So I don't think it's necessarily an ISP problem. It pretty much has to be something downstream from Doug's place. If it was a list problem, then all the subscribers would be missing stuff. William Robb
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Damn sunspots :-) I'm using Gmail & I'm not receiving some messages. So I don't think it's necessarily an ISP problem. Dave S. On 5/11/06, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, not here in Boone. In fact the other mail list I am on is bogged down too. Maybe a note to charter.net is in order. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Doug Franklin wrote: > William Robb wrote: >> Other than the occassional out of sequence thread, I don't seem to be >> having any problems with recieving messages. >> You might want to query your ISP regarding where in their chain the >> messages are getting dropped. > > Yep. Everything seems fine here in Atlanta. >
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Well, not here in Boone. In fact the other mail list I am on is bogged down too. Maybe a note to charter.net is in order. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Doug Franklin wrote: William Robb wrote: Other than the occassional out of sequence thread, I don't seem to be having any problems with recieving messages. You might want to query your ISP regarding where in their chain the messages are getting dropped. Yep. Everything seems fine here in Atlanta.
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I'm on comcast. I'm getting all my normal mail. But my outgoing and incoming list messages are disappearing. I would imagine many other people on the list are comcast. Paul On May 10, 2006, at 11:25 PM, William Robb wrote: Other than the occassional out of sequence thread, I don't seem to be having any problems with recieving messages. You might want to query your ISP regarding where in their chain the messages are getting dropped. William Robb - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: worst day yet for list problems The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall.
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William Robb wrote: Other than the occassional out of sequence thread, I don't seem to be having any problems with recieving messages. You might want to query your ISP regarding where in their chain the messages are getting dropped. Yep. Everything seems fine here in Atlanta. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ)
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Other than the occassional out of sequence thread, I don't seem to be having any problems with recieving messages. You might want to query your ISP regarding where in their chain the messages are getting dropped. William Robb - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: worst day yet for list problems The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall.
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I've seen three or five messages, almost all late in the afternoon and early this evening. Never saw anything I posted, and have supplemented reading the list by reading the archives, which also seem to be spotty. I'm sure Doug is doing what he can ... I suppose we can thank the spammers and the virus and worm writers for making the internet what it is today ... Shel > [Original Message] > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are > getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my > mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall.
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I agree. Very few have made it to my folder today. I believe most of mine show up in the archives, but rarely on the "list". I've come to depend, almost entirely, on the archives. A little tedious. Jack --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are > getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my > mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall. > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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I've receiving messages OK. JimA. > The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are > getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my > mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall. > >
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On May 10, 2006, at 10:03 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The list is gasping for breath. It seems that very few messages are getting through. I sent about five today. Only one made it to my mailbox. And I've received only about a dozen overall. Strange -- I've seen quite a bit of list traffic today. -Aaron
