Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried a good neoprene strap? It does not make the camera lighter, but it sure makes it feel lighter. Not so fast. Think of all the adorable baby neoprenes that died to produce each of those straps. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/21/2009 4:24 AM, Tim Bray wrote:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Tim Øslebymaritim...@gmail.com wrote:
Have you tried a good neoprene strap? It does not make the camera
lighter, but it sure makes it feel lighter.
Not so fast. Think of all the adorable baby neoprenes that died to
produce each of those straps.
-T
At least they're not endangered like Naugas...
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Oh, I thought the Neoprenes were cute baby Naugas...
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On 12/21/2009 4:24 AM, Tim Bray wrote:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Tim Øslebymaritim...@gmail.com wrote:
Have you tried a good neoprene strap? It does not make the camera
lighter, but it sure makes it feel lighter.
Not so fast. Think of all the adorable baby neoprenes that died to
produce each of those straps.
-T
At least they're not endangered like Naugas...
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LOL -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2009/12/21 Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried a good neoprene strap? It does not make the camera lighter, but it sure makes it feel lighter. Not so fast. Think of all the adorable baby neoprenes that died to produce each of those straps. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/12/21 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com: Oh, I thought the Neoprenes were cute baby Naugas... didn't you know most Naugas are gone into hyding this time of the year? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I am Tim, and I'm giggling. Hope you are old enough to take it. It is friendly giggling. Mainly because that's something I could ave done. Now, how does the new strap feel? -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2009/12/19 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net: - Original Message - From: steve harley p...@paper-ape.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:22 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? On 2009-12-17 18:06 , Christine Aguila wrote: No, can you recommend one, Tim? i'm not Tim, but i'm quite happy with an Op/Tech neoprene strap on my K200d Well, I feel really stupid. all the nice suggestions by Tim all the guys who aren't Tim :-)) got me thinking while cooking dinner--turns out, I, at some point in the past, bought 3 Quantaray neoprene straps. I've already put one on the K10D and another film camera I have. Turns out the 3rd one was for the K20D--just hadn't put it on yet. I dug this new strap out of a box of things in my closet and have just put it on the K20D. Geeze, how dopey of me. Thanks for the suggestions and being patient with the mentally aging. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com I am Tim, and I'm giggling. Hope you are old enough to take it. It is friendly giggling. Mainly because that's something I could ave done. Now, how does the new strap feel? So far so good! ;- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: steve harley p...@paper-ape.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:22 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? On 2009-12-17 18:06 , Christine Aguila wrote: No, can you recommend one, Tim? i'm not Tim, but i'm quite happy with an Op/Tech neoprene strap on my K200d Well, I feel really stupid. all the nice suggestions by Tim all the guys who aren't Tim :-)) got me thinking while cooking dinner--turns out, I, at some point in the past, bought 3 Quantaray neoprene straps. I've already put one on the K10D and another film camera I have. Turns out the 3rd one was for the K20D--just hadn't put it on yet. I dug this new strap out of a box of things in my closet and have just put it on the K20D. Geeze, how dopey of me. Thanks for the suggestions and being patient with the mentally aging. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 11:35 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? At 9:14 AM -0600 12/18/09, Christine Aguila wrote: From: Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca Looks like the local camera store has the K20D on sale, so I'm gonna try to snag one! Cool! Looking forward to seeing your 1st pics! Cheers, Christine Ack! They're holding one for me! I pick it up on the 28th! Woo Hoo, just in time for the New Year! Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Looks like the local camera store has the K20D on sale, so I'm gonna try to snag one! Cool! Looking forward to seeing your 1st pics! Cheers, Christine Ack! They're holding one for me! I pick it up on the 28th! Woo Hoo, just in time for the New Year! Cheers, Christine Lots of winter photography! -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I use a neoprene strap on my Kodak Medalist, it may make the camera feel lighter or not, as I doubt much could do that. (I use an old LX strap on the K20D). On 12/17/2009 5:03 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Have you tried a good neoprene strap? It does not make the camera lighter, but it sure makes it feel lighter. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2009/12/17 Christine Aguilacagu...@earthlink.net: Well, some lighter would help ;-). Seriously though, when I did the camera-store-try on the K7, it felt good to hold and had a nice feel. I do understand the point about weight/steadier grip/with longer lenses--and agree, but lately the kit feels so heavy--course so does by body. Maybe I'm just so out of shape, and I'm probably not shooting enough--actually, I just checked Lightroom; I shot 5887 frames so far for 2009. I suppose by PDML standards that's pretty wimpy, but certainly not out of character for the wimp I am :-). Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I don't know what the exact numbers are, but the K7 isn't a lot lighter than the K20. Somewhat smaller, but it's packed and well built, so it's rather hefty. I prefer a heavier camera. It makes for a steadier grip and balances substantial lenses better. The DA* 60-250 and the K7 with battery pack are a perfect match. Paul On Dec 17, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I thought the same with my K20 then I touched the K7 heard the shutter--ahhh, that was lovely to the ears. I do want the K7, so I'm *sort of* saving for it--but mainly for the weight--I'm so tired of the weight--my own--and camera gear weight; these days I'm traveling really light, and it's still heavy. I guess I'm a wimp. A few nights ago I dreamt of my old MX, and I moved around free and easy in that dream. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: gldnbearzgldnbearz.p...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I thought the same w/ my K200D. Then I had to touch a K7 listen to it's shutter sound. What to do with a K200D + grip? :\ - Pat On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Brian Walterssupera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Well, it's summer doldrums down here but I get your point I think that DSLR development has reached the point where incremental gains in performance are relatively small, so upgrading becomes a matter of trying to justify the expense when the current camera is 'good enough'. I my case, the K200D does pretty much everything I want, so I probably wont upgrade until a camera comes along with similar features but with a better high ISO performance and a sensor with a few more MP of resolution. (Oh, wait. Isn't that the K-x?) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/17/2009 4:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Subash wrote: frank theriaultknarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I for one miss those halcyon days of just a few months ago. We could talk about guns. Abortion. Religion. Politics. Yeah, politics! That Obama, what a guy, eh? How about that climate summit in Sweden! Or was that Denmark? Whatever! And how about Time's Person of the Year? Bernanke? 'Cause he's done such a bang-up job on the economy? Yeah, right! Okay, those should keep us going until Pentax releases a new product... Frank, you left out outsourcing/offshoring... Come on everyone, this is a Pentax mailing list! APERTURE SIMULATORS! Only worth discussing if it's on the new upcoming Full Frame camera. (Damn I still want an MZ-D). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Center of his chest, (leaning slightly to the left). On 12/17/2009 1:54 AM, Cotty wrote: On 16/12/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: And, yeah, I do like Obama. A bit right wing for my tastes, but I think his heart's in the right place. In his mouth? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2009-12-17 20:03, Tim Øsleby wrote: Have you tried a good neoprene strap? It does not make the camera lighter, but it sure makes it feel lighter. I'll second that. I originally got one for my bag, which tends to be a bit heavy when I'm moving around an event. I was simply amazed at the difference in feel when using the neoprene strap. That bag seemed like its weight was cut in half. I later put one on the camera, too. I won't go without one again. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Come on everyone, this is a Pentax mailing list! APERTURE SIMULATORS! Only worth discussing if it's on the new upcoming Full Frame camera. (Damn I still want an MZ-D). Was that to be full frame? I know it was to use the Foveon (sp?) chip. -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I checked BH and saw one for $19.95--inflation, hey?! :-) Thanks Tim. I'll try one. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 7:20 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I've used a Tamrac strap for nearly two years. No complaints so far. It has two nice pockets for extra cards, and it's easy to take off. IMO thats very handy when mouting the camera at a tripod, gets the strap out of the way. Bought it for about 15$ at BH. But there might be better straps out there. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2009/12/18 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net: No, can you recommend one, Tim? Thanks for the tip! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 7:03 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? Have you tried a good neoprene strap? It does not make the camera lighter, but it sure makes it feel lighter. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2009/12/17 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net: Well, some lighter would help ;-). Seriously though, when I did the camera-store-try on the K7, it felt good to hold and had a nice feel. I do understand the point about weight/steadier grip/with longer lenses--and agree, but lately the kit feels so heavy--course so does by body. Maybe I'm just so out of shape, and I'm probably not shooting enough--actually, I just checked Lightroom; I shot 5887 frames so far for 2009. I suppose by PDML standards that's pretty wimpy, but certainly not out of character for the wimp I am :-). Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I don't know what the exact numbers are, but the K7 isn't a lot lighter than the K20. Somewhat smaller, but it's packed and well built, so it's rather hefty. I prefer a heavier camera. It makes for a steadier grip and balances substantial lenses better. The DA* 60-250 and the K7 with battery pack are a perfect match. Paul On Dec 17, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I thought the same with my K20 then I touched the K7 heard the shutter--ahhh, that was lovely to the ears. I do want the K7, so I'm *sort of* saving for it--but mainly for the weight--I'm so tired of the weight--my own--and camera gear weight; these days I'm traveling really light, and it's still heavy. I guess I'm a wimp. A few nights ago I dreamt of my old MX, and I moved around free and easy in that dream. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: gldnbearz gldnbearz.p...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I thought the same w/ my K200D. Then I had to touch a K7 listen to it's shutter sound. What to do with a K200D + grip? :\ - Pat On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Well, it's summer doldrums down here but I get your point I think that DSLR development has reached the point where incremental gains in performance are relatively small, so upgrading becomes a matter of trying to justify the expense when the current camera is 'good enough'. I my case, the K200D does pretty much everything I want, so I probably wont upgrade until a camera comes along with similar features but with a better high ISO performance and a sensor with a few more MP of resolution. (Oh, wait. Isn't that the K-x?) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail
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From: Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca Looks like the local camera store has the K20D on sale, so I'm gonna try to snag one! Cool! Looking forward to seeing your 1st pics! Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Actually the prototypes had a full frame Philips 6MP chip. It would have probably shipped just about the time Kodak announced their 14mp and Canon their 11mp full frame SLRs. Contax persisted using the same chip and look what it did for them. On 12/18/2009 9:33 AM, Steve Sharpe wrote: Come on everyone, this is a Pentax mailing list! APERTURE SIMULATORS! Only worth discussing if it's on the new upcoming Full Frame camera. (Damn I still want an MZ-D). Was that to be full frame? I know it was to use the Foveon (sp?) chip. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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This one comes from the happy medium department. I thought the istD was a tad to small and the K10D about right for my hands. I;m not partial to a smaller unit, if thaqts what Pentax has up there extension tubes.:-) I like the feel of the bulkier bodies, the PZ-1 the K10D. The Nikons I have all fit nicely in my hands. Oh and don';t move the shutter release button from its current location. One reason i did not buy Canon digital at first was the location of the button was troublesome. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2009-12-17 18:06 , Christine Aguila wrote: No, can you recommend one, Tim? i'm not Tim, but i'm quite happy with an Op/Tech neoprene strap on my K200d -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Really? My K10D does not impress me one bit. It has serious White out issues. It seems to take most of it's pictures so white they are useless. Now the funny thing is, I won't buy a new one because I'm determined to figure out what is wrong with this one. (or maybe it is the lack of a job) Actually I'm wondering if maybe I have an issue with it reading one of my lenses. I've had the lens for awhile now. I'm at less than both of you on my K10D. Not just last year - since I bought it, three years ago. (I guess I go for quality, not quantity :-) I could have said the same for my K10D, pretty much word-for-word. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Steve Sharpe Come on everyone, this is a Pentax mailing list! APERTURE SIMULATORS! Only worth discussing if it's on the new upcoming Full Frame camera. (Damn I still want an MZ-D). Was that to be full frame? I know it was to use the Foveon (sp?) chip. Full frame, yes; Foveon, no. 6 megapixel (3072×2048) full 135 film frame sized (24×36 mm) CCD (model FTF3020-C) from Philips http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentax_MZ-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm not Tim, but maybe I can be helpful. I hated ALL straps before I got Pentax Noeprene Strap (art. 50151). It's really worth of trying out. BR, Margus Christine Aguila wrote: No, can you recommend one, Tim? Thanks for the tip! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 7:03 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? Have you tried a good neoprene strap? It does not make the camera lighter, but it sure makes it feel lighter. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2009/12/17 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net: Well, some lighter would help ;-). Seriously though, when I did the camera-store-try on the K7, it felt good to hold and had a nice feel. I do understand the point about weight/steadier grip/with longer lenses--and agree, but lately the kit feels so heavy--course so does by body. Maybe I'm just so out of shape, and I'm probably not shooting enough--actually, I just checked Lightroom; I shot 5887 frames so far for 2009. I suppose by PDML standards that's pretty wimpy, but certainly not out of character for the wimp I am :-). Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I don't know what the exact numbers are, but the K7 isn't a lot lighter than the K20. Somewhat smaller, but it's packed and well built, so it's rather hefty. I prefer a heavier camera. It makes for a steadier grip and balances substantial lenses better. The DA* 60-250 and the K7 with battery pack are a perfect match. Paul On Dec 17, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I thought the same with my K20 then I touched the K7 heard the shutter--ahhh, that was lovely to the ears. I do want the K7, so I'm *sort of* saving for it--but mainly for the weight--I'm so tired of the weight--my own--and camera gear weight; these days I'm traveling really light, and it's still heavy. I guess I'm a wimp. A few nights ago I dreamt of my old MX, and I moved around free and easy in that dream. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: gldnbearz gldnbearz.p...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I thought the same w/ my K200D. Then I had to touch a K7 listen to it's shutter sound. What to do with a K200D + grip? :\ - Pat On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Well, it's summer doldrums down here but I get your point I think that DSLR development has reached the point where incremental gains in performance are relatively small, so upgrading becomes a matter of trying to justify the expense when the current camera is 'good enough'. I my case, the K200D does pretty much everything I want, so I probably wont upgrade until a camera comes along with similar features but with a better high ISO performance and a sensor with a few more MP of resolution. (Oh, wait. Isn't that the K-x?) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Check the EXIF information for one of the blown-out images. In fact check the metadata for *all* of them, and see if the problems only occur with one particular lens. If that is the case the problem may well be with the lens, not the camera body. The lens may have sticky aperture blades, and not be stopping down fast enough. On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 08:50:02AM -0800, Sandra Hermann wrote: Really? My K10D does not impress me one bit. It has serious White out issues. It seems to take most of it's pictures so white they are useless. Now the funny thing is, I won't buy a new one because I'm determined to figure out what is wrong with this one. (or maybe it is the lack of a job) Actually I'm wondering if maybe I have an issue with it reading one of my lenses. I've had the lens for awhile now. ? I'm at less than both of you on my K10D. Not just last year - since I bought it, three years ago. (I guess I go for quality, not quantity :-) I could have said the same for my K10D, pretty much word-for-word. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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At 9:14 AM -0600 12/18/09, Christine Aguila wrote: From: Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca Looks like the local camera store has the K20D on sale, so I'm gonna try to snag one! Cool! Looking forward to seeing your 1st pics! Cheers, Christine Ack! They're holding one for me! I pick it up on the 28th! -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I haven't had a K10D, but had a K20D.The K-7 is a huge improvement On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Sandra Hermann jeepgirls2...@yahoo.com wrote: Really? My K10D does not impress me one bit. It has serious White out issues. It seems to take most of it's pictures so white they are useless. Now the funny thing is, I won't buy a new one because I'm determined to figure out what is wrong with this one. (or maybe it is the lack of a job) Actually I'm wondering if maybe I have an issue with it reading one of my lenses. I've had the lens for awhile now. I'm at less than both of you on my K10D. Not just last year - since I bought it, three years ago. (I guess I go for quality, not quantity :-) I could have said the same for my K10D, pretty much word-for-word. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I haven't had a K10D, but have a K20D. While the K20D also had similar issues, the K-7 is a great improvement in expossure accuracy. On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't had a K10D, but had a K20D.The K-7 is a huge improvement On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Sandra Hermann jeepgirls2...@yahoo.com wrote: Really? My K10D does not impress me one bit. It has serious White out issues. It seems to take most of it's pictures so white they are useless. Now the funny thing is, I won't buy a new one because I'm determined to figure out what is wrong with this one. (or maybe it is the lack of a job) Actually I'm wondering if maybe I have an issue with it reading one of my lenses. I've had the lens for awhile now. I'm at less than both of you on my K10D. Not just last year - since I bought it, three years ago. (I guess I go for quality, not quantity :-) I could have said the same for my K10D, pretty much word-for-word. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 18/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: 6 megapixel (3072*2048) full 135 film frame sized (24*36 mm) CCD (model FTF3020-C) from Philips From Boz's site: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html Those pictures make me weep. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 18, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Cotty wrote: On 18/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: 6 megapixel (3072*2048) full 135 film frame sized (24*36 mm) CCD (model FTF3020-C) from Philips From Boz's site: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html Those pictures make me weep. -- They should make you happy. We didn't get stuck with a camera built around a sensor that was doomed from day one. Paul Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Cotty On 18/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: 6 megapixel (3072*2048) full 135 film frame sized (24*36 mm) CCD (model FTF3020-C) from Philips From Boz's site: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html Those pictures make me weep. Still and all, I like the control layout on the *ist-D, K10, K20, K7 better. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks John I will look that up! Help me support Autism research! Join my team! http://www.walknowforautism.org/stlouis/blubiconsbuddies http://stampmine.blogspot.com/http://samsphotopage.blogspot.com/ --- On Fri, 12/18/09, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: From: John Francis jo...@panix.com Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 11:39 AM Check the EXIF information for one of the blown-out images. In fact check the metadata for *all* of them, and see if the problems only occur with one particular lens. If that is the case the problem may well be with the lens, not the camera body. The lens may have sticky aperture blades, and not be stopping down fast enough. On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 08:50:02AM -0800, Sandra Hermann wrote: Really? My K10D does not impress me one bit. It has serious White out issues. It seems to take most of it's pictures so white they are useless. Now the funny thing is, I won't buy a new one because I'm determined to figure out what is wrong with this one. (or maybe it is the lack of a job) Actually I'm wondering if maybe I have an issue with it reading one of my lenses. I've had the lens for awhile now. ? I'm at less than both of you on my K10D. Not just last year - since I bought it, three years ago. (I guess I go for quality, not quantity :-) I could have said the same for my K10D, pretty much word-for-word. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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At 1:12 PM -0500 12/18/09, John Sessoms wrote: From: Cotty On 18/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: 6 megapixel (3072*2048) full 135 film frame sized (24*36 mm) CCD (model FTF3020-C) from Philips From Boz's site: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html Those pictures make me weep. Still and all, I like the control layout on the *ist-D, K10, K20, K7 better. I can only speak for the MZ-S and the *ist-D, but I'll take the layout of the former anytime. Much more intuitive and easy to navigate. -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 01:07:37PM -0500, paul stenquist wrote: On Dec 18, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Cotty wrote: On 18/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: 6 megapixel (3072*2048) full 135 film frame sized (24*36 mm) CCD (model FTF3020-C) from Philips From Boz's site: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html Those pictures make me weep. -- They should make you happy. We didn't get stuck with a camera built around a sensor that was doomed from day one. And, IMO, a user interface inferior to the current two-wheel digital bodies. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 02:30:04PM -0400, Steve Sharpe wrote: At 1:12 PM -0500 12/18/09, John Sessoms wrote: From: Cotty On 18/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: 6 megapixel (3072*2048) full 135 film frame sized (24*36 mm) CCD (model FTF3020-C) from Philips From Boz's site: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html Those pictures make me weep. Still and all, I like the control layout on the *ist-D, K10, K20, K7 better. I can only speak for the MZ-S and the *ist-D, but I'll take the layout of the former anytime. Much more intuitive and easy to navigate. Intuitive is only another way of saying what you are used to. If you think Av mode is done by moving the aperture ring on the lens, then you're going to have a problem switching rapidly between Av and Tv (or program) which is what Hyper Program mode offers. It depends on what you want; if you want a camera body that works just like a K-1000 with all your old manual focus lenses the MZ/ZX bodies are great, but personally I found the advantages of the new Hyper modes far outweighed that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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At 2:49 PM -0500 12/18/09, John Francis wrote: On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 02:30:04PM -0400, Steve Sharpe wrote: At 1:12 PM -0500 12/18/09, John Sessoms wrote: From: Cotty On 18/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: 6 megapixel (3072*2048) full 135 film frame sized (24*36 mm) CCD (model FTF3020-C) from Philips From Boz's site: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html Those pictures make me weep. Still and all, I like the control layout on the *ist-D, K10, K20, K7 better. I can only speak for the MZ-S and the *ist-D, but I'll take the layout of the former anytime. Much more intuitive and easy to navigate. Intuitive is only another way of saying what you are used to. Exactly. If you think Av mode is done by moving the aperture ring on the lens, then you're going to have a problem switching rapidly between Av and Tv (or program) which is what Hyper Program mode offers. It depends on what you want; if you want a camera body that works just like a K-1000 with all your old manual focus lenses the MZ/ZX bodies are great, but personally I found the advantages of the new Hyper modes far outweighed that. I understand what you are saying but I do not agree. Up until the *istD (for me) the controls of each new generation of camera tended to build on the previous one, so learning a new camera was easy. The *istD's controls were quite a departure from the MZ-S and so meant that I had to spend extra time reading the owner's manual when I would have preferred to be out photographing. -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Curious as to what the histogram looks like on those blown out images. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Sandra Hermann jeepgirls2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? Really? My K10D does not impress me one bit. It has serious White out issues. It seems to take most of it's pictures so white they are useless. Now the funny thing is, I won't buy a new one because I'm determined to figure out what is wrong with this one. (or maybe it is the lack of a job) Actually I'm wondering if maybe I have an issue with it reading one of my lenses. I've had the lens for awhile now. I'm at less than both of you on my K10D. Not just last year - since I bought it, three years ago. (I guess I go for quality, not quantity :-) I could have said the same for my K10D, pretty much word-for-word. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 18/12/09, paul stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: They should make you happy. We didn't get stuck with a camera built around a sensor that was doomed from day one. Very true. But the design of the body, and to think what might have been, had it been done properly. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Steve Sharpe At 1:12 PM -0500 12/18/09, John Sessoms wrote: From: Cotty On 18/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: 6 megapixel (3072*2048) full 135 film frame sized (24*36 mm) CCD (model FTF3020-C) from Philips From Boz's site: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html Those pictures make me weep. Still and all, I like the control layout on the *ist-D, K10, K20, K7 better. I can only speak for the MZ-S and the *ist-D, but I'll take the layout of the former anytime. Much more intuitive and easy to navigate. I just find having the shutter speed aperture controls in the right hand convenient, although I think it would be slightly more intuitive if the aperture was on the front wheel and shutter speed was on the rear. But it allows me to control the camera without having to take my eye from the viewfinder to look at the controls. I'll have to check the manual and see if that's something that can be set in a Pentax Function. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2009-12-18 11:22, steve harley wrote: On 2009-12-17 18:06 , Christine Aguila wrote: No, can you recommend one, Tim? i'm not Tim, but i'm quite happy with an Op/Tech neoprene strap on my K200d I have an Op-Tech neoprene strap, too, and I've been quite happy with it. I would like it to have some of the little pockets like the old fabric Pentax straps used to have, but that's easy enough to fix with old film capsules. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Steve Sharpe At 2:49 PM -0500 12/18/09, John Francis wrote: On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 02:30:04PM -0400, Steve Sharpe wrote: At 1:12 PM -0500 12/18/09, John Sessoms wrote: From: Cotty On 18/12/09, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: 6 megapixel (3072*2048) full 135 film frame sized (24*36 mm) CCD (model FTF3020-C) from Philips From Boz's site: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html Those pictures make me weep. Still and all, I like the control layout on the *ist-D, K10, K20, K7 better. I can only speak for the MZ-S and the *ist-D, but I'll take the layout of the former anytime. Much more intuitive and easy to navigate. Intuitive is only another way of saying what you are used to. Exactly. If you think Av mode is done by moving the aperture ring on the lens, then you're going to have a problem switching rapidly between Av and Tv (or program) which is what Hyper Program mode offers. It depends on what you want; if you want a camera body that works just like a K-1000 with all your old manual focus lenses the MZ/ZX bodies are great, but personally I found the advantages of the new Hyper modes far outweighed that. I understand what you are saying but I do not agree. Up until the *istD (for me) the controls of each new generation of camera tended to build on the previous one, so learning a new camera was easy. The *istD's controls were quite a departure from the MZ-S and so meant that I had to spend extra time reading the owner's manual when I would have preferred to be out photographing. The MZ-S control layout doesn't build on the preceding Z/PZ series. Nor from the P or the SF series, although there does seem to be a logical progression from P to SF to Z/PZ to *ist-D and on through KxD into the new K series . MZ *ist (film) seem to make some kind of detour, as do the K-m and K-x. The *ist-D control layout does follow from the PZ-1/PZ-1p. It has the same control layout for Hyper-Program; front wheel controls shutter speed, rear wheel controls aperture. Speaking of K-x, did I post that I ran across the K-x IN STOCK at the CompUSA/Tiger Direct Outlet Store in Raleigh? I meant to. But that really belongs in whatever thread kvetching about Pentax having shed all their local dealers belongs. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I understand what you are saying but I do not agree. Up until the *istD (for me) the controls of each new generation of camera tended to build on the previous one, so learning a new camera was easy. The *istD's controls were quite a departure from the MZ-S and so meant that I had to spend extra time reading the owner's manual when I would have preferred to be out photographing. The MZ-S control layout doesn't build on the preceding Z/PZ series. Nor from the P or the SF series, although there does seem to be a logical progression from P to SF to Z/PZ to *ist-D and on through KxD into the new K series . MZ *ist (film) seem to make some kind of detour, as do the K-m and K-x. I owned (and still do) a ZX-5N. When I got the MZ-S I found the control layout easy to understand, though I missed the shutter speed knob. But the dial for exposure compensation and auto-bracketing was clearly an evolution from the ZX-5N. A quick twist of the aperture ring takes either camera from programme into aperture priority. I guess it all comes down to what you like and what you don't like...what you are used to and what you are not used to. It's taken me three years, but I've finally figured out what those little twirly wheels on the *istD do and now I like them. My complaint with them is that both aperture and shutter speed are controlled with the right hand, leaving the left with nothing to do but hold the lens, if it's a prime. Its job used to be to twist the aperture ring. I worry that it might find something else to twist and get me into trouble. I guess the solution is to only use zooms. The *ist-D control layout does follow from the PZ-1/PZ-1p. It has the same control layout for Hyper-Program; front wheel controls shutter speed, rear wheel controls aperture. Speaking of K-x, did I post that I ran across the K-x IN STOCK at the CompUSA/Tiger Direct Outlet Store in Raleigh? I meant to. Seems to be plenty of them up here around Halifax! -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 07:33:54PM -0400, Steve Sharpe wrote: It's taken me three years, but I've finally figured out what those little twirly wheels on the *istD do and now I like them. My complaint with them is that both aperture and shutter speed are controlled with the right hand, leaving the left with nothing to do but hold the lens, if it's a prime. Its job used to be to twist the aperture ring. I worry that it might find something else to twist and get me into trouble. I guess the solution is to only use zooms. Now you understand :-) By the time I got my MZ-S my main lens was the 80-200/2.8, and if I wasn't using that I was using either the 300/2.8 or the 250-600. The primary task for my left hand was to steady the lens on the monopod, and maybe to tweak the zoom slightly. But generally my hand was at or near the front element or lens hood, not all the way back near the camera body. If you mainly use (short-ish) primes, your left hand may well be free to adjust the aperture, although you also need that hand if you're not using auto-focus. Nowadays, of course, there's quick-shift focus touch up as well. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 19, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Cotty wrote: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html Those pictures make me weep. Me too. A body that size should be shooting medium format. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:12 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: We could talk about guns. You left out Global Warming. Jeepers. Even though you're Not Trying Hard Enough, I will nonetheless offer this amusing look under the Wikipedia covers to prove that when it comes to Serious Arguing, we're a bunch of rank amateurs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yeah, politics! That Obama, what a guy, eh? I suspected you were a fan of Osama. Now we have confirmation:-). No, no, Paul. That's O-B-ama. With a B. Him I like. The other one, not so much... (whew, what a difference one letter can make!) ;-) Yep. Ask Ramsay MacDonald. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinoviev_letter Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Subash wrote: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I for one miss those halcyon days of just a few months ago. We could talk about guns. Abortion. Religion. Politics. Yeah, politics! That Obama, what a guy, eh? How about that climate summit in Sweden! Or was that Denmark? Whatever! And how about Time's Person of the Year? Bernanke? 'Cause he's done such a bang-up job on the economy? Yeah, right! Okay, those should keep us going until Pentax releases a new product... Frank, you left out outsourcing/offshoring... Come on everyone, this is a Pentax mailing list! APERTURE SIMULATORS! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I don't know what the exact numbers are, but the K7 isn't a lot lighter than the K20. Somewhat smaller, but it's packed and well built, so it's rather hefty. I prefer a heavier camera. It makes for a steadier grip and balances substantial lenses better. The DA* 60-250 and the K7 with battery pack are a perfect match. Paul On Dec 17, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I thought the same with my K20 then I touched the K7 heard the shutter--ahhh, that was lovely to the ears. I do want the K7, so I'm *sort of* saving for it--but mainly for the weight--I'm so tired of the weight--my own--and camera gear weight; these days I'm traveling really light, and it's still heavy. I guess I'm a wimp. A few nights ago I dreamt of my old MX, and I moved around free and easy in that dream. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: gldnbearz gldnbearz.p...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I thought the same w/ my K200D. Then I had to touch a K7 listen to it's shutter sound. What to do with a K200D + grip? :\ - Pat On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Well, it's summer doldrums down here but I get your point I think that DSLR development has reached the point where incremental gains in performance are relatively small, so upgrading becomes a matter of trying to justify the expense when the current camera is 'good enough'. I my case, the K200D does pretty much everything I want, so I probably wont upgrade until a camera comes along with similar features but with a better high ISO performance and a sensor with a few more MP of resolution. (Oh, wait. Isn't that the K-x?) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/12/17 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com: APERTURE SIMULATORS! screw-in for the filter thread? including a zoom version? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: APERTURE SIMULATORS! Mark, Why did you HAVE TO BRING UP that topic?!?!? Are you mocking the IMPORTANCE OF APERTURE SIMULATORS??? Don't you realize that PENTAX' failure to INCLUDE aperture simulators in their cameras MARKS the SINGLE BIGGEST BETRAYAL of any CORPORATION TOWARDS its CUSTOMERS in the history of CAMERA MANUFACTURING Now you've DONE IT! We're in for a HUGE FLAME WAR now! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:12 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: We could talk about guns. You left out Global Warming. Jeepers. Even though you're Not Trying Hard Enough, I will nonetheless offer this amusing look under the Wikipedia covers to prove that when it comes to Serious Arguing, we're a bunch of rank amateurs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars Well, I did mention the Copenhagen Conference... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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frank theriault wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:12 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: We could talk about guns. You left out Global Warming. Jeepers. Even though you're Not Trying Hard Enough, I will nonetheless offer this amusing look under the Wikipedia covers to prove that when it comes to Serious Arguing, we're a bunch of rank amateurs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars Well, I did mention the Copenhagen Conference... We thought that was something to do with chewing tobacco. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The winter doldrums are approaching and the fact that Pentax has finally given us a couple of camera bodies that, (with /appropriately/ lowered expectations), seem to be what most of us want, the of the discussion of future developments has stopped. Ok, I know that DPreview, Pentax Forums and others have such discussion but they're just silly... I for one miss those halcyon days of just a few months ago. You must be missing half the posts on this list. Typically, the what lens do you want Pentax to produce? sort. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, some lighter would help ;-). Seriously though, when I did the camera-store-try on the K7, it felt good to hold and had a nice feel. I do understand the point about weight/steadier grip/with longer lenses--and agree, but lately the kit feels so heavy--course so does by body. Maybe I'm just so out of shape, and I'm probably not shooting enough--actually, I just checked Lightroom; I shot 5887 frames so far for 2009. I suppose by PDML standards that's pretty wimpy, but certainly not out of character for the wimp I am :-). Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I don't know what the exact numbers are, but the K7 isn't a lot lighter than the K20. Somewhat smaller, but it's packed and well built, so it's rather hefty. I prefer a heavier camera. It makes for a steadier grip and balances substantial lenses better. The DA* 60-250 and the K7 with battery pack are a perfect match. Paul On Dec 17, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I thought the same with my K20 then I touched the K7 heard the shutter--ahhh, that was lovely to the ears. I do want the K7, so I'm *sort of* saving for it--but mainly for the weight--I'm so tired of the weight--my own--and camera gear weight; these days I'm traveling really light, and it's still heavy. I guess I'm a wimp. A few nights ago I dreamt of my old MX, and I moved around free and easy in that dream. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: gldnbearz gldnbearz.p...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I thought the same w/ my K200D. Then I had to touch a K7 listen to it's shutter sound. What to do with a K200D + grip? :\ - Pat On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Well, it's summer doldrums down here but I get your point I think that DSLR development has reached the point where incremental gains in performance are relatively small, so upgrading becomes a matter of trying to justify the expense when the current camera is 'good enough'. I my case, the K200D does pretty much everything I want, so I probably wont upgrade until a camera comes along with similar features but with a better high ISO performance and a sensor with a few more MP of resolution. (Oh, wait. Isn't that the K-x?) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/16/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:41 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Oh Obama!! Now I feel better:-). And, yeah, I do like Obama. A bit right wing for my tastes, but I think his heart's in the right place. You are, obviously, new to Illinois politics. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Bob W Yeah, politics! ?That Obama, what a guy, eh? I suspected you were a fan of Osama. Now we have confirmation:-). No, no, Paul. That's O-B-ama. With a B. Him I like. The other one, not so much... (whew, what a difference one letter can make!) ;-) Yep. Ask Ramsay MacDonald. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinoviev_letter Bob Or more recently the Nigerian yellowcake letter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_uranium_forgeries -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: frank theriault On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:12 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: We could talk about guns. You left out Global Warming. ?Jeepers. ?Even though you're Not Trying Hard Enough, I will nonetheless offer this amusing look under the Wikipedia covers to prove that when it comes to Serious Arguing, we're a bunch of rank amateurs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars Well, I did mention the Copenhagen Conference... I know ... A Copenhagen Conference on Obama's plan to use Aperture Simulators for Gun Control. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:55 -0600, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Well, some lighter would help ;-). Seriously though, when I did the camera-store-try on the K7, it felt good to hold and had a nice feel. I do understand the point about weight/steadier grip/with longer lenses--and agree, but lately the kit feels so heavy--course so does by body. Maybe I'm just so out of shape, and I'm probably not shooting enough--actually, I just checked Lightroom; I shot 5887 frames so far for 2009. I suppose by PDML standards that's pretty wimpy, but certainly not out of character for the wimp I am :-). Cheers, Christine You call 5887 wimpy? How about 5465? And that included the trip across Australia. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I don't know what the exact numbers are, but the K7 isn't a lot lighter than the K20. Somewhat smaller, but it's packed and well built, so it's rather hefty. I prefer a heavier camera. It makes for a steadier grip and balances substantial lenses better. The DA* 60-250 and the K7 with battery pack are a perfect match. Paul On Dec 17, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I thought the same with my K20 then I touched the K7 heard the shutter--ahhh, that was lovely to the ears. I do want the K7, so I'm *sort of* saving for it--but mainly for the weight--I'm so tired of the weight--my own--and camera gear weight; these days I'm traveling really light, and it's still heavy. I guess I'm a wimp. A few nights ago I dreamt of my old MX, and I moved around free and easy in that dream. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: gldnbearz gldnbearz.p...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I thought the same w/ my K200D. Then I had to touch a K7 listen to it's shutter sound. What to do with a K200D + grip? :\ - Pat On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Well, it's summer doldrums down here but I get your point I think that DSLR development has reached the point where incremental gains in performance are relatively small, so upgrading becomes a matter of trying to justify the expense when the current camera is 'good enough'. I my case, the K200D does pretty much everything I want, so I probably wont upgrade until a camera comes along with similar features but with a better high ISO performance and a sensor with a few more MP of resolution. (Oh, wait. Isn't that the K-x?) -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm -actually, I just checked Lightroom; I shot 5887 frames so far for 2009. I suppose by PDML standards that's pretty wimpy, but certainly not out of character for the wimp I am :-). Cheers, Christine You call 5887 wimpy? How about 5465? And that included the trip across Australia. Well, let's be wimps together! ;-) cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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At 4:19 PM -0600 12/17/09, Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm -actually, I just checked Lightroom; I shot 5887 frames so far for 2009. I suppose by PDML standards that's pretty wimpy, but certainly not out of character for the wimp I am :-). Cheers, Christine You call 5887 wimpy? How about 5465? And that included the trip across Australia. Well, let's be wimps together! ;-) cheers, Christine Geez, I shot about a thousand, and I was so proud of myself! Looks like the local camera store has the K20D on sale, so I'm gonna try to snag one! -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Have you tried a good neoprene strap? It does not make the camera lighter, but it sure makes it feel lighter. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2009/12/17 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net: Well, some lighter would help ;-). Seriously though, when I did the camera-store-try on the K7, it felt good to hold and had a nice feel. I do understand the point about weight/steadier grip/with longer lenses--and agree, but lately the kit feels so heavy--course so does by body. Maybe I'm just so out of shape, and I'm probably not shooting enough--actually, I just checked Lightroom; I shot 5887 frames so far for 2009. I suppose by PDML standards that's pretty wimpy, but certainly not out of character for the wimp I am :-). Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I don't know what the exact numbers are, but the K7 isn't a lot lighter than the K20. Somewhat smaller, but it's packed and well built, so it's rather hefty. I prefer a heavier camera. It makes for a steadier grip and balances substantial lenses better. The DA* 60-250 and the K7 with battery pack are a perfect match. Paul On Dec 17, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I thought the same with my K20 then I touched the K7 heard the shutter--ahhh, that was lovely to the ears. I do want the K7, so I'm *sort of* saving for it--but mainly for the weight--I'm so tired of the weight--my own--and camera gear weight; these days I'm traveling really light, and it's still heavy. I guess I'm a wimp. A few nights ago I dreamt of my old MX, and I moved around free and easy in that dream. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: gldnbearz gldnbearz.p...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I thought the same w/ my K200D. Then I had to touch a K7 listen to it's shutter sound. What to do with a K200D + grip? :\ - Pat On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Well, it's summer doldrums down here but I get your point I think that DSLR development has reached the point where incremental gains in performance are relatively small, so upgrading becomes a matter of trying to justify the expense when the current camera is 'good enough'. I my case, the K200D does pretty much everything I want, so I probably wont upgrade until a camera comes along with similar features but with a better high ISO performance and a sensor with a few more MP of resolution. (Oh, wait. Isn't that the K-x?) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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No, can you recommend one, Tim? Thanks for the tip! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 7:03 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? Have you tried a good neoprene strap? It does not make the camera lighter, but it sure makes it feel lighter. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2009/12/17 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net: Well, some lighter would help ;-). Seriously though, when I did the camera-store-try on the K7, it felt good to hold and had a nice feel. I do understand the point about weight/steadier grip/with longer lenses--and agree, but lately the kit feels so heavy--course so does by body. Maybe I'm just so out of shape, and I'm probably not shooting enough--actually, I just checked Lightroom; I shot 5887 frames so far for 2009. I suppose by PDML standards that's pretty wimpy, but certainly not out of character for the wimp I am :-). Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I don't know what the exact numbers are, but the K7 isn't a lot lighter than the K20. Somewhat smaller, but it's packed and well built, so it's rather hefty. I prefer a heavier camera. It makes for a steadier grip and balances substantial lenses better. The DA* 60-250 and the K7 with battery pack are a perfect match. Paul On Dec 17, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I thought the same with my K20 then I touched the K7 heard the shutter--ahhh, that was lovely to the ears. I do want the K7, so I'm *sort of* saving for it--but mainly for the weight--I'm so tired of the weight--my own--and camera gear weight; these days I'm traveling really light, and it's still heavy. I guess I'm a wimp. A few nights ago I dreamt of my old MX, and I moved around free and easy in that dream. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: gldnbearz gldnbearz.p...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I thought the same w/ my K200D. Then I had to touch a K7 listen to it's shutter sound. What to do with a K200D + grip? :\ - Pat On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Well, it's summer doldrums down here but I get your point I think that DSLR development has reached the point where incremental gains in performance are relatively small, so upgrading becomes a matter of trying to justify the expense when the current camera is 'good enough'. I my case, the K200D does pretty much everything I want, so I probably wont upgrade until a camera comes along with similar features but with a better high ISO performance and a sensor with a few more MP of resolution. (Oh, wait. Isn't that the K-x?) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've used a Tamrac strap for nearly two years. No complaints so far. It has two nice pockets for extra cards, and it's easy to take off. IMO thats very handy when mouting the camera at a tripod, gets the strap out of the way. Bought it for about 15$ at BH. But there might be better straps out there. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2009/12/18 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net: No, can you recommend one, Tim? Thanks for the tip! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 7:03 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? Have you tried a good neoprene strap? It does not make the camera lighter, but it sure makes it feel lighter. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2009/12/17 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net: Well, some lighter would help ;-). Seriously though, when I did the camera-store-try on the K7, it felt good to hold and had a nice feel. I do understand the point about weight/steadier grip/with longer lenses--and agree, but lately the kit feels so heavy--course so does by body. Maybe I'm just so out of shape, and I'm probably not shooting enough--actually, I just checked Lightroom; I shot 5887 frames so far for 2009. I suppose by PDML standards that's pretty wimpy, but certainly not out of character for the wimp I am :-). Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I don't know what the exact numbers are, but the K7 isn't a lot lighter than the K20. Somewhat smaller, but it's packed and well built, so it's rather hefty. I prefer a heavier camera. It makes for a steadier grip and balances substantial lenses better. The DA* 60-250 and the K7 with battery pack are a perfect match. Paul On Dec 17, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I thought the same with my K20 then I touched the K7 heard the shutter--ahhh, that was lovely to the ears. I do want the K7, so I'm *sort of* saving for it--but mainly for the weight--I'm so tired of the weight--my own--and camera gear weight; these days I'm traveling really light, and it's still heavy. I guess I'm a wimp. A few nights ago I dreamt of my old MX, and I moved around free and easy in that dream. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: gldnbearz gldnbearz.p...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I thought the same w/ my K200D. Then I had to touch a K7 listen to it's shutter sound. What to do with a K200D + grip? :\ - Pat On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Well, it's summer doldrums down here but I get your point I think that DSLR development has reached the point where incremental gains in performance are relatively small, so upgrading becomes a matter of trying to justify the expense when the current camera is 'good enough'. I my case, the K200D does pretty much everything I want, so I probably wont upgrade until a camera comes along with similar features but with a better high ISO performance and a sensor with a few more MP of resolution. (Oh, wait. Isn't that the K-x?) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm at 9300 on my K7D. I know I burned through thousands on my K20D when I was shooting a lot of virtual tours. I'd guess I'm at about 20,000 for the year. Three or four keepers in there too! Paul On Dec 17, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote: At 4:19 PM -0600 12/17/09, Christine Aguila wrote: - Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm -actually, I just checked Lightroom; I shot 5887 frames so far for 2009. I suppose by PDML standards that's pretty wimpy, but certainly not out of character for the wimp I am :-). Cheers, Christine You call 5887 wimpy? How about 5465? And that included the trip across Australia. Well, let's be wimps together! ;-) cheers, Christine Geez, I shot about a thousand, and I was so proud of myself! Looks like the local camera store has the K20D on sale, so I'm gonna try to snag one! -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca • http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 08:41:39AM +1100, Brian Walters wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:55 -0600, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Well, some lighter would help ;-). Seriously though, when I did the camera-store-try on the K7, it felt good to hold and had a nice feel. I do understand the point about weight/steadier grip/with longer lenses--and agree, but lately the kit feels so heavy--course so does by body. Maybe I'm just so out of shape, and I'm probably not shooting enough--actually, I just checked Lightroom; I shot 5887 frames so far for 2009. I suppose by PDML standards that's pretty wimpy, but certainly not out of character for the wimp I am :-). Cheers, Christine You call 5887 wimpy? How about 5465? And that included the trip across Australia. I'm at less than both of you on my K10D. Not just last year - since I bought it, three years ago. (I guess I go for quality, not quantity :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 18, 2009, at 6:14 PM, John Francis wrote: I'm at less than both of you on my K10D. Not just last year - since I bought it, three years ago. (I guess I go for quality, not quantity :-) I could have said the same for my K10D, pretty much word-for-word. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Personally, loving the K-7... I still disbelieve the reality of a 645D and question the saleability/profitability of such a system if it were to be produced. I also would like to know, where does Pentax go from here? Tom On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The winter doldrums are approaching and the fact that Pentax has finally given us a couple of camera bodies that, (with /appropriately/ lowered expectations), seem to be what most of us want, the of the discussion of future developments has stopped. Ok, I know that DPreview, Pentax Forums and others have such discussion but they're just silly... I for one miss those halcyon days of just a few months ago. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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P. J. Alling wrote: The winter doldrums are approaching and the fact that Pentax has finally given us a couple of camera bodies that, (with /appropriately/ lowered expectations), seem to be what most of us want, the of the discussion of future developments has stopped. Yeah. How could they? I mean, spoil all the fun like that... Ok, I know that DPreview, Pentax Forums and others have such discussion but they're just silly... I for one miss those halcyon days of just a few months ago. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:15 -0500, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The winter doldrums are approaching and the fact that Pentax has finally given us a couple of camera bodies that, (with /appropriately/ lowered expectations), seem to be what most of us want, the of the discussion of future developments has stopped. Ok, I know that DPreview, Pentax Forums and others have such discussion but they're just silly... I for one miss those halcyon days of just a few months ago. Well, it's summer doldrums down here but I get your point I think that DSLR development has reached the point where incremental gains in performance are relatively small, so upgrading becomes a matter of trying to justify the expense when the current camera is 'good enough'. I my case, the K200D does pretty much everything I want, so I probably wont upgrade until a camera comes along with similar features but with a better high ISO performance and a sensor with a few more MP of resolution. (Oh, wait. Isn't that the K-x?) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I thought the same w/ my K200D. Then I had to touch a K7 listen to it's shutter sound. What to do with a K200D + grip? :\ - Pat On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Well, it's summer doldrums down here but I get your point I think that DSLR development has reached the point where incremental gains in performance are relatively small, so upgrading becomes a matter of trying to justify the expense when the current camera is 'good enough'. I my case, the K200D does pretty much everything I want, so I probably wont upgrade until a camera comes along with similar features but with a better high ISO performance and a sensor with a few more MP of resolution. (Oh, wait. Isn't that the K-x?) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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At 8:57 AM +1100 12/17/09, Brian Walters wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:15 -0500, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The winter doldrums are approaching and the fact that Pentax has finally given us a couple of camera bodies that, (with /appropriately/ lowered expectations), seem to be what most of us want, the of the discussion of future developments has stopped. Ok, I know that DPreview, Pentax Forums and others have such discussion but they're just silly... I for one miss those halcyon days of just a few months ago. Well, it's summer doldrums down here but I get your point I think that DSLR development has reached the point where incremental gains in performance are relatively small, so upgrading becomes a matter of trying to justify the expense when the current camera is 'good enough'. I my case, the K200D does pretty much everything I want, so I probably wont upgrade until a camera comes along with similar features but with a better high ISO performance and a sensor with a few more MP of resolution. (Oh, wait. Isn't that the K-x?) I'm ready for an upgrade from my *istD. It's a nice camera but my response to it has always been lukewarm at best. I've had it three years and it only has ~3200 actuations on it. I'm waiting to see what the Boxing Day sales offer...hopefully an K-7D or a K20D at a good price. -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If Pentax could give me AF speed and fill flash consistancy that was like my D2h and D200, i would buy it and keep the faith. Dave On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca wrote: At 8:57 AM +1100 12/17/09, Brian Walters wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:15 -0500, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The winter doldrums are approaching and the fact that Pentax has finally given us a couple of camera bodies that, (with /appropriately/ lowered expectations), seem to be what most of us want, the of the discussion of future developments has stopped. Ok, I know that DPreview, Pentax Forums and others have such discussion but they're just silly... I for one miss those halcyon days of just a few months ago. Well, it's summer doldrums down here but I get your point I think that DSLR development has reached the point where incremental gains in performance are relatively small, so upgrading becomes a matter of trying to justify the expense when the current camera is 'good enough'. I my case, the K200D does pretty much everything I want, so I probably wont upgrade until a camera comes along with similar features but with a better high ISO performance and a sensor with a few more MP of resolution. (Oh, wait. Isn't that the K-x?) I'm ready for an upgrade from my *istD. It's a nice camera but my response to it has always been lukewarm at best. I've had it three years and it only has ~3200 actuations on it. I'm waiting to see what the Boxing Day sales offer...hopefully an K-7D or a K20D at a good price. -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca • http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Pentax has introduced too many new cameras for us to complain. No wait, this group can always complain! The US is running a special price on the K-7 with WP kit lens, $150 below K-7 price alone and offering $100 off on each lens purchased at the same time. If the K-20 didn't have a 3 year damage warranty on it, I might have gone for a 2nd K-7 and a DA16-45/2.8 or DA200/2.8. And I had to sell my K10D because I couldn't justify keeping 2 generations back. Maybe Pentax has a new paradigm. Sell the family new cameras to use their old lenses! Before the *ist DS, my lens collection was big but my new camera purchases were an initial ME, Super Program, and PZ-1. Since buying the *ist DS, I've fell for the K10D, K20D, and K7D. That's some $3500+ in the last 3-4 years vs under $900 in the first 20+ years. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:13 PM, gldnbearz gldnbearz.p...@gmail.com wrote: I thought the same w/ my K200D. Then I had to touch a K7 listen to it's shutter sound. What to do with a K200D + grip? :\ - Pat On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Well, it's summer doldrums down here but I get your point I think that DSLR development has reached the point where incremental gains in performance are relatively small, so upgrading becomes a matter of trying to justify the expense when the current camera is 'good enough'. I my case, the K200D does pretty much everything I want, so I probably wont upgrade until a camera comes along with similar features but with a better high ISO performance and a sensor with a few more MP of resolution. (Oh, wait. Isn't that the K-x?) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:57:34 +1100 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: I my case, the K200D does pretty much everything I want, so I probably wont upgrade until a camera comes along with similar features but with a better high ISO performance and a sensor with a few more MP of resolution. (Oh, wait. Isn't that the K-x?) i'd never felt comfortable with the bigger size of the k10d, so after two years, just found a good and caring home for it. :) will buy the k-x if i can get hold of one (it will probably have to come through the grey market from singapore, as with any pentax body/lens here)... regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2009-12-16 21:50, Subash wrote: will buy the k-x if i can get hold of one (it will probably have to come through the grey market from singapore, as with any pentax body/lens here)... I'll go for the K7 when the price comes down a bit and my personal finances clear up a bit (got a lot to spend on the house soon). If nothing else, I want the higher frame rates. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, I've been thinkin'... I was really attracted to the K7 because of its smaller size, faster performance, more accurate metering, and artificial horizon. However... I am really happy with my K10D, whose RAW low-light performance is actually a bit better (see dxomark.com), whose AF is adequate to my needs, whose quirky metering I understand, which has just under 20K exposures on the clock, and which is =not= the weak link in my photography (the wetware is). Besides, I'm a cheapskate. So, I'm currently planning to sit back and wait to see what comes after the K7. Unless, of course, I impusively change my mind. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 12/16/09, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: On 2009-12-16 21:50, Subash wrote: will buy the k-x if i can get hold of one (it will probably have to come through the grey market from singapore, as with any pentax body/lens here)... I'll go for the K7 when the price comes down a bit and my personal finances clear up a bit (got a lot to spend on the house soon). If nothing else, I want the higher frame rates. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The winter doldrums are approaching and the fact that Pentax has finally given us a couple of camera bodies that, (with /appropriately/ lowered expectations), seem to be what most of us want, the of the discussion of future developments has stopped. Ok, I know that DPreview, Pentax Forums and others have such discussion but they're just silly... I for one miss those halcyon days of just a few months ago. We could talk about guns. Abortion. Religion. Politics. Yeah, politics! That Obama, what a guy, eh? How about that climate summit in Sweden! Or was that Denmark? Whatever! And how about Time's Person of the Year? Bernanke? 'Cause he's done such a bang-up job on the economy? Yeah, right! Okay, those should keep us going until Pentax releases a new product... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:12:46 -0500 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I for one miss those halcyon days of just a few months ago. We could talk about guns. Abortion. Religion. Politics. Yeah, politics! That Obama, what a guy, eh? How about that climate summit in Sweden! Or was that Denmark? Whatever! And how about Time's Person of the Year? Bernanke? 'Cause he's done such a bang-up job on the economy? Yeah, right! Okay, those should keep us going until Pentax releases a new product... Frank, you left out outsourcing/offshoring... :) regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:12 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The winter doldrums are approaching and the fact that Pentax has finally given us a couple of camera bodies that, (with /appropriately/ lowered expectations), seem to be what most of us want, the of the discussion of future developments has stopped. Ok, I know that DPreview, Pentax Forums and others have such discussion but they're just silly... I for one miss those halcyon days of just a few months ago. We could talk about guns. Abortion. Religion. Politics. Yeah, politics! That Obama, what a guy, eh? I suspected you were a fan of Osama. Now we have confirmation:-). How about that climate summit in Sweden! Or was that Denmark? Whatever! And how about Time's Person of the Year? Bernanke? 'Cause he's done such a bang-up job on the economy? Yeah, right! Okay, those should keep us going until Pentax releases a new product... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:31 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Yeah, politics! That Obama, what a guy, eh? I suspected you were a fan of Osama. Now we have confirmation:-). No, no, Paul. That's O-B-ama. With a B. Him I like. The other one, not so much... (whew, what a difference one letter can make!) ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2009-12-16 23:11, Rick Womer wrote: However... I am really happy with my K10D [...] Besides, I'm a cheapskate. I am, too, for the most part. I also don't want to get on the same upgrade treadmill with cameras that governed personal computers for so long. My K10 is up to 11 or 12,000 cycles, and it's doing pretty well. The only real problem I have with it operationally is the goofy flash metering, especially with the Sigma EF500. I shoot flash so rarely that it doesn't make a ton of sense to replace the Sigma. So, I'm currently planning to sit back and wait to see what comes after the K7. Unless, of course, I impusively change my mind. A furnace, an air conditioner, a roof, and an exterior painting of the house will conspire to prevent those impulses, for me, for the next few months. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oh Obama!! Now I feel better:-). Paul On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:35 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:31 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Yeah, politics! That Obama, what a guy, eh? I suspected you were a fan of Osama. Now we have confirmation:-). No, no, Paul. That's O-B-ama. With a B. Him I like. The other one, not so much... (whew, what a difference one letter can make!) ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:41 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Oh Obama!! Now I feel better:-). And, yeah, I do like Obama. A bit right wing for my tastes, but I think his heart's in the right place. ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:56:26 +0530 Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:12:46 -0500 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I for one miss those halcyon days of just a few months ago. We could talk about guns. Abortion. Religion. Politics. Yeah, politics! That Obama, what a guy, eh? How about that climate summit in Sweden! Or was that Denmark? Whatever! And how about Time's Person of the Year? Bernanke? 'Cause he's done such a bang-up job on the economy? Yeah, right! Okay, those should keep us going until Pentax releases a new product... Frank, you left out outsourcing/offshoring... i just read Christian's mail and my remarks above were probably a little too facetious given the context. apologies... subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Doug Franklin On 2009-12-16 23:11, Rick Womer wrote: So, I'm currently planning to sit back and wait to see what comes after the K7. Unless, of course, I impusively change my mind. A furnace, an air conditioner, a roof, and an exterior painting of the house will conspire to prevent those impulses, for me, for the next few months. :-) Months? Try years. I've lived this long without the furnace and central air, I can forgo them a bit longer. I will have to do the roof next summer, but I should still be able to get up there myself, which should minimize the cost. Probably slap a coat of paint on too, just to keep the neighbors from complaining. Don't really care what they think, just don't want to have to deal with the whining. I might be looking for a good used K20D some time in the new year. I can't justify a K7 as much as I want one. I've got other things coming up, and there's opportunities I don't want to miss. The repairs will still be waiting when I get back. It's not like I'm ever going to sell this house. And after I'm dead the damn thing can fall down for all I care. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Peter, I reckon that gear discussions for sake of gear discussions are silly. However, if there is a particular point or question - I'd gladly join the talk should I think I might contribute information. By the way, sir, I've sent you a message of list some time ago and you did not seem to reply ;-). Boris On 12/16/2009 10:15 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: The winter doldrums are approaching and the fact that Pentax has finally given us a couple of camera bodies that, (with /appropriately/ lowered expectations), seem to be what most of us want, the of the discussion of future developments has stopped. Ok, I know that DPreview, Pentax Forums and others have such discussion but they're just silly... I for one miss those halcyon days of just a few months ago. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 16/12/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: And, yeah, I do like Obama. A bit right wing for my tastes, but I think his heart's in the right place. In his mouth? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I thought the same with my K20 then I touched the K7 heard the shutter--ahhh, that was lovely to the ears. I do want the K7, so I'm *sort of* saving for it--but mainly for the weight--I'm so tired of the weight--my own--and camera gear weight; these days I'm traveling really light, and it's still heavy. I guess I'm a wimp. A few nights ago I dreamt of my old MX, and I moved around free and easy in that dream. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: gldnbearz gldnbearz.p...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? I thought the same w/ my K200D. Then I had to touch a K7 listen to it's shutter sound. What to do with a K200D + grip? :\ - Pat On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Well, it's summer doldrums down here but I get your point I think that DSLR development has reached the point where incremental gains in performance are relatively small, so upgrading becomes a matter of trying to justify the expense when the current camera is 'good enough'. I my case, the K200D does pretty much everything I want, so I probably wont upgrade until a camera comes along with similar features but with a better high ISO performance and a sensor with a few more MP of resolution. (Oh, wait. Isn't that the K-x?) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
