Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

2010-12-14 Thread Peter McIntosh
On 14 December 2010 11:07, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 G'day all

 Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
 January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
 week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
 easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:

 January: Patterns in Nature
 February: Life's Simple Pleasures
 March: Big Weather
 April: Memories of Kodachrome
 May: Found Objects
 June: Close to Home
 July: Strange
 August: Monochrome Landscapes
 September: Self Portrait
 October: Roads
 November: Underfoot
 December: The Ravages of Time

 The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking at
 past gallery themes.

 Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
 can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.

 +++

 As mentioned in my previous post of a few days ago, the January
 Submission form is now open at:

 http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

 And the Submission Guidelines are here:

 http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html

 Submissions will be accepted until 31 December, at least



Hi Brian,

Top stuff. And it looks like I'll finally have some time to myself now
(we've sold and move to Melbourne next weekend), so I'll be trying to
get an entry in for each month.  Hmmm... January may be an issue (busy
unpacking), but all other months should be do-able.  And most likely a
new camera to boot!

Compliments of the season to you (and all other PDML-ers),

Pete Mac

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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

2010-12-14 Thread Boris Liberman

On 12/14/2010 2:07 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:


Great work, Brian. I hope to be able to submit to the most of the themed 
galleries.


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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

2010-12-14 Thread eckinator
Great job Brian - are images for any given month only accepted during
that month or is it OK to submit in advance so as to not forget?
Cheers
Ecke

2010/12/14 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm:
 G'day all

 Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
 January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
 week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
 easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:

 January: Patterns in Nature
 February: Life's Simple Pleasures
 March: Big Weather
 April: Memories of Kodachrome
 May: Found Objects
 June: Close to Home
 July: Strange
 August: Monochrome Landscapes
 September: Self Portrait
 October: Roads
 November: Underfoot
 December: The Ravages of Time

 The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking at
 past gallery themes.

 Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
 can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.

 +++

 As mentioned in my previous post of a few days ago, the January
 Submission form is now open at:

 http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

 And the Submission Guidelines are here:

 http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html

 Submissions will be accepted until 31 December, at least



 Cheers

 Brian

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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

2010-12-14 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Any news on the Dec 2010 PUG?

Dan
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:14 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 Great job Brian - are images for any given month only accepted during
 that month or is it OK to submit in advance so as to not forget?
 Cheers
 Ecke

 2010/12/14 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm:
 G'day all

 Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
 January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
 week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
 easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:

 January: Patterns in Nature
 February: Life's Simple Pleasures
 March: Big Weather
 April: Memories of Kodachrome
 May: Found Objects
 June: Close to Home
 July: Strange
 August: Monochrome Landscapes
 September: Self Portrait
 October: Roads
 November: Underfoot
 December: The Ravages of Time

 The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking at
 past gallery themes.

 Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
 can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.

 +++

 As mentioned in my previous post of a few days ago, the January
 Submission form is now open at:

 http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

 And the Submission Guidelines are here:

 http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html

 Submissions will be accepted until 31 December, at least



 Cheers

 Brian

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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

2010-12-14 Thread Brian Walters
G'day Pete

On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 20:01 +1100, Peter McIntosh peter...@gmail.com
wrote:

 
 Top stuff. And it looks like I'll finally have some time to myself now
 (we've sold and move to Melbourne next weekend), so I'll be trying to
 get an entry in for each month.  Hmmm... January may be an issue (busy
 unpacking), but all other months should be do-able.  And most likely a
 new camera to boot!
 
 Compliments of the season to you (and all other PDML-ers),
 


Thanks - and the same to you.  I'm looking forward to your submissions.

Best of luck in the new city.  I think you'll enjoy it down there. 
Despite the so-called Sydney-Melbourne rivalry, and much as I like
Sydney, I always enjoy going to Melbourne.  Great vineyards nearby, too!


Cheers

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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

2010-12-14 Thread Brian Walters
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 14:14 +0100, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Great job Brian - are images for any given month only accepted during
 that month or is it OK to submit in advance so as to not forget?
 Cheers


Yes - once I amend the submission form (in a few days), all months will
be listed and you will be able to submit for any month at any time.


Cheers

Brian

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 Ecke
 
 2010/12/14 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm:
  G'day all
 
  Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
  January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
  week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
  easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:
 
  January: Patterns in Nature
  February: Life's Simple Pleasures
  March: Big Weather
  April: Memories of Kodachrome
  May: Found Objects
  June: Close to Home
  July: Strange
  August: Monochrome Landscapes
  September: Self Portrait
  October: Roads
  November: Underfoot
  December: The Ravages of Time
 
  The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking at
  past gallery themes.
 
  Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
  can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.
 
  +++
 
  As mentioned in my previous post of a few days ago, the January
  Submission form is now open at:
 
  http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
 
  And the Submission Guidelines are here:
 
  http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html
 
  Submissions will be accepted until 31 December, at least
 

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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

2010-12-14 Thread Brian Walters
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 09:32 -0500, Daniel J. Matyola
danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Any news on the Dec 2010 PUG?


Should be soon.  Scott has taken down the December submission form in
the last day or so  - I expect he'll be posting the December gallery
shortly.

Cheers

Brian

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 Dan
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
 On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:14 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
  Great job Brian - are images for any given month only accepted during
  that month or is it OK to submit in advance so as to not forget?
  Cheers
  Ecke
 
  2010/12/14 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm:
  G'day all
 
  Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
  January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
  week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
  easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:
 
  January: Patterns in Nature
  February: Life's Simple Pleasures
  March: Big Weather
  April: Memories of Kodachrome
  May: Found Objects
  June: Close to Home
  July: Strange
  August: Monochrome Landscapes
  September: Self Portrait
  October: Roads
  November: Underfoot
  December: The Ravages of Time
 
  The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking at
  past gallery themes.
 
  Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
  can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.
 
  +++
 
  As mentioned in my previous post of a few days ago, the January
  Submission form is now open at:
 
  http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
 
  And the Submission Guidelines are here:
 
  http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html
 
  Submissions will be accepted until 31 December, at least
 
 
 

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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

2010-12-13 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Brian - Good work!  I think those are great.  
What is the deadline for January?

(forgive me if you told us already)

ann
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Brian Walters wrote:


G'day all

Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:

January: Patterns in Nature
February: Life's Simple Pleasures
March: Big Weather
April: Memories of Kodachrome
May: Found Objects
June: Close to Home
July: Strange
August: Monochrome Landscapes
September: Self Portrait
October: Roads
November: Underfoot
December: The Ravages of Time

The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking at
past gallery themes.

Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.

+++

As mentioned in my previous post of a few days ago, the January
Submission form is now open at:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

And the Submission Guidelines are here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html

Submissions will be accepted until 31 December, at least



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

2010-12-13 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Ann

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 19:13 -0500, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
wrote:
 Brian - Good work!  I think those are great.  
 What is the deadline for January?
 (forgive me if you told us already)
 

You're forgiven! It was at the bottom of my post.

31 December, nominally, but given that I'll probably be celebrating on
New Year's Eve, the form will be open until my head clears - probably a
day or two into 2011, at least. 

:-)




Cheers

Brian


 Brian Walters wrote:
 
 G'day all
 
 Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
 January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
 week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
 easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:
 
 January: Patterns in Nature
 February: Life's Simple Pleasures
 March: Big Weather
 April: Memories of Kodachrome
 May: Found Objects
 June: Close to Home
 July: Strange
 August: Monochrome Landscapes
 September: Self Portrait
 October: Roads
 November: Underfoot
 December: The Ravages of Time
 
 The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking at
 past gallery themes.
 
 Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
 can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.
 
 +++
 
 As mentioned in my previous post of a few days ago, the January
 Submission form is now open at:
 
 http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
 
 And the Submission Guidelines are here:
 
 http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html
 
 Submissions will be accepted until 31 December, at least
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
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 http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

2010-12-13 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 11:07:29 +1100
Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 January: Patterns in Nature
 February: Life's Simple Pleasures
 March: Big Weather
 April: Memories of Kodachrome
 May: Found Objects
 June: Close to Home
 July: Strange
 August: Monochrome Landscapes
 September: Self Portrait
 October: Roads
 November: Underfoot
 December: The Ravages of Time
 
 The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking
 at past gallery themes.
 
 Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
 can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.


This is a good list and I am going to be trying to offer something for
each gallery this year even if i do the open one...  strange should be
fun.


these will all be at http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ correct?

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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

2010-12-13 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Bran

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 18:40 -0600, Bran Everseeking
bran.everseek...@sasktel.net wrote:

 This is a good list and I am going to be trying to offer something for
 each gallery this year even if i do the open one...  strange should be
 fun.
 

Looking forward to seeing them!


 
 these will all be at http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ correct?
 


Yes, I'll amend the form to include the full list shortly.


Cheers

Brian


 On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 11:07:29 +1100
 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 
  January: Patterns in Nature
  February: Life's Simple Pleasures
  March: Big Weather
  April: Memories of Kodachrome
  May: Found Objects
  June: Close to Home
  July: Strange
  August: Monochrome Landscapes
  September: Self Portrait
  October: Roads
  November: Underfoot
  December: The Ravages of Time
  
  The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking
  at past gallery themes.
  
  Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
  can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.
 
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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

2010-12-13 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Brian Walters wrote:


Hi Ann

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 19:13 -0500, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
wrote:
 

Brian - Good work!  I think those are great.  
What is the deadline for January?

(forgive me if you told us already)

   



You're forgiven! It was at the bottom of my post.

31 December, nominally, but given that I'll probably be celebrating on
New Year's Eve, the form will be open until my head clears - probably a
day or two into 2011, at least. 


:-)




Cheers

Brian

Phew!   and thanks for the forgiveness.   I SHOULD be able to find a 
pattern by then...


Amy Lowell








 


Brian Walters wrote:

   


G'day all

Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:

January: Patterns in Nature
February: Life's Simple Pleasures
March: Big Weather
April: Memories of Kodachrome
May: Found Objects
June: Close to Home
July: Strange
August: Monochrome Landscapes
September: Self Portrait
October: Roads
November: Underfoot
December: The Ravages of Time

The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking at
past gallery themes.

Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.

+++

As mentioned in my previous post of a few days ago, the January
Submission form is now open at:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

And the Submission Guidelines are here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html

Submissions will be accepted until 31 December, at least



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

2010-12-13 Thread Ken Waller

Thanks Brian.

Did I miss the December PUG ?

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
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Subject: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011



G'day all

Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:

January: Patterns in Nature
February: Life's Simple Pleasures
March: Big Weather
April: Memories of Kodachrome
May: Found Objects
June: Close to Home
July: Strange
August: Monochrome Landscapes
September: Self Portrait
October: Roads
November: Underfoot
December: The Ravages of Time

The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking at
past gallery themes.

Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.

+++

As mentioned in my previous post of a few days ago, the January
Submission form is now open at:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

And the Submission Guidelines are here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html

Submissions will be accepted until 31 December, at least



Cheers

Brian

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Western Sydney Australia
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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

2010-12-13 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:49 -0500, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
wrote:
 Thanks Brian.
 
 Did I miss the December PUG ?
 


No - I think Scott's still working on it.


Cheers

Brian

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 - Original Message - 
 From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
 
 Subject: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011
 
 
  G'day all
  
  Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
  January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
  week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
  easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:
  
  January: Patterns in Nature
  February: Life's Simple Pleasures
  March: Big Weather
  April: Memories of Kodachrome
  May: Found Objects
  June: Close to Home
  July: Strange
  August: Monochrome Landscapes
  September: Self Portrait
  October: Roads
  November: Underfoot
  December: The Ravages of Time
  
  The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking at
  past gallery themes.
  
  Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
  can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.
  
  +++
  
  As mentioned in my previous post of a few days ago, the January
  Submission form is now open at:
  
  http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
  
  And the Submission Guidelines are here:
  
  http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html
  
  Submissions will be accepted until 31 December, at least
  
  
  
  Cheers
  
  Brian
  
  ++
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  Western Sydney Australia
  http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
 
 
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Theme for January 2011

2010-12-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Sounds great!

Dan
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 G'day all

 Just to get you all thinking, let's ease into 2011 with a theme that
 shouldn't be too taxing on the brain cells - probably a good thing
 during the holiday season...

 * Patterns in Nature *

 In response to suggestions on the list, you can submit a non-themed
 image to the 'Open Gallery' if you don't want to submit for the theme.
 Pete Loveday also raised the issue of increasing the file size limits.
 I'm looking into that but, for January, the limits are the same as for
 2010.

 So..

 Go at it!

 +

 The submission form is at:

 http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

 * This is a different address to that which Scott used.

 * Although, the official deadline for submission of images is 20
 December, submissions up until 31 December (at least) will be accepted.

 Submissions Guidelines are here:

 http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html

 The submission form looks much the same as in previous years except that
 there is now a drop-down list next to the 'Gallery Month item.  You
 just select the month that you're submitting for, either 'Theme' or
 'Open Gallery'.  At present, there's just January listed but once the
 remaining 2011 themes are finalised, you will be able to submit for any
 month at any time.

 The form now includes a 'spam minimizer' feature where you need to enter
 a two word code into a panel before uploading - you will have used a
 similar feature on many other sites - but let me know if it (or any
 other part of the form) causes problems.

 ++

 (PS.  Scott still has the December submission form active so presumably
 you can still submit a 'Pentax Photo Gallery Reject' if you're quick!
 The December submission form is at: http://pdmlpug.org/?page_id=58)



 Cheers

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-07 Thread eckinator
2010/12/7 Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org:
 
 that will give a whole new meaning to the MP spec of a sensor...

 Too nerdy... Even I am lost now... Are you talking about Meow Police
 censorship? ;-)

sounds even better than the MegaPussy rating I had in mind ]=)
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Yes, I think that we should have a section for Open Gallery or
non-theme images in every monthly gallery, as we did some time ago.
That may encourage more people to contribute.

Speaking of which, any news on the December PUG?

As an exercise, I went back and downloaded all my PUG entries, over
the past 11 years --  122 in total -- to my photo.met gallery.  Some I
had forgotten about, some I coulde no longer locate on my computer.
It was an interesting exercise.

Dan M
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On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:33 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 12/5/2010 5:32 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

 On 6 December 2010 09:16, Brian Walterssupera1...@fastmail.fm  wrote:

 So, any interest in including 'Open Galleries'? Feedback would be
 appreciated

 Yep, it's difficult to find a Pentax Photo Gellery Reject if you've
 never sunmitted ;-)

 I never submitted because I figured they'd all be rejected.  It takes a
 certain kind of mind to appreciate my lack of vision.

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-06 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 00:33:25 -0500
P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 I never submitted because I figured they'd all be rejected.  It takes
 a certain kind of mind to appreciate my lack of vision.
!MARK!

not only that I think i want that on my tomb pebble

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-06 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Peter Loveday pe...@loveday.org wrote:
 I'd really like to see the limits increased a bit on the PUG.  256K? 720
 pixels?  Welcome to 1998 :)

1998, I'm, still trying to claw my way out of 1968.

Dave

 - Peter

 -Original Message- From: Brian Walters
 Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 10:09 AM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

 G'day all

 As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
 I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
 see...

 Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:

 The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
 do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
 members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
 compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
 enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
 back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.

 The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
 Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.

 There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
 operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
 Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
 Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
 much the same as in the past.

 I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.



 Cheers

 Brian

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-06 Thread Igor Roshchin
Sun Dec 5 15:17:39 CST 2010
eckinator wrote:

 2010/12/5 Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org:
 
   p.s. So... what month are we having the cat photos?
  
   I don't remember catastrophy, catapults or catalogs suggested
   as themes for the next year..
 
  that is because this year's cat theme will be concatenated RAW
  files
  - PDML takes ASCII art to the next level and beyond. separate
  categories for PEF and DNG as well as lower and upper case ]=)
 
  man cat(1)
 
  It will be called steganocatography.
 
  At that point the PUssycatGallery will be watched by the
  Cat Investigation Agency and Feline Bureau of Investigation.
 
 that will give a whole new meaning to the MP spec of a sensor...
 
Too nerdy... Even I am lost now... Are you talking about Meow Police
censorship? 
;-)

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-05 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks for stepping up and carrying the PUG on your back.

Dave

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 G'day all

 As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
 I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
 see...

 Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:

 The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
 do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
 members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
 compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
 enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
 back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.

 The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
 Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.

 There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
 operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
 Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
 Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
 much the same as in the past.

 I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.



 Cheers

 Brian

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-05 Thread eckinator
2010/12/5 Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org:


 p.s. So... what month are we having the cat photos?

 I don't remember catastrophy, catapults or catalogs suggested
 as themes for the next year..

that is because this year's cat theme will be concatenated RAW files
- PDML takes ASCII art to the next level and beyond. separate
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-05 Thread Igor Roshchin


Sun Dec 5 07:38:47 CST 2010
eckinator wrote:

 2010/12/5 Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org:
 
 
  p.s. So... what month are we having the cat photos?
 
  I don't remember catastrophy, catapults or catalogs suggested
  as themes for the next year..
 
 that is because this year's cat theme will be concatenated RAW files
 - PDML takes ASCII art to the next level and beyond. separate
 categories for PEF and DNG as well as lower and upper case ]=)

man cat(1)

It will be called steganocatography.

At that point the PUssycatGallery will be watched by the
Cat Investigation Agency and Feline Bureau of Investigation.

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-05 Thread P. J. Alling
In the past IIRC the past  part of gallery was set aside for non themed 
submissions.


I don't think that Scott stopped accepting those submissions but I don't 
think that JAlbum supports a way to segregate a second sub-album on the 
same page.


I guess I have two questions, are we now not going to accept non-themed 
submissions or are we just going to continue on as before with the 
themed and non themed photos mixed together?  Not that I remember the 
last time a non-themed photo was submitted mind you, and I phrased that 
as one question didn't I.  Oh well...


On 12/4/2010 6:39 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
see...

Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:

The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.

The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.

There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
much the same as in the past.

I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-05 Thread Ken Waller

My thanks in advance for taking this over Brian.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm

Subject: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011



G'day all

As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
see...

Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:

The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.  


The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.

There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
much the same as in the past.

I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-05 Thread eckinator
2010/12/5 Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org:

  p.s. So... what month are we having the cat photos?
 
  I don't remember catastrophy, catapults or catalogs suggested
  as themes for the next year..

 that is because this year's cat theme will be concatenated RAW files
 - PDML takes ASCII art to the next level and beyond. separate
 categories for PEF and DNG as well as lower and upper case ]=)

 man cat(1)

 It will be called steganocatography.

 At that point the PUssycatGallery will be watched by the
 Cat Investigation Agency and Feline Bureau of Investigation.

that will give a whole new meaning to the MP spec of a sensor...

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-05 Thread Brian Walters
On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 13:49 -0500, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 In the past IIRC the past  part of gallery was set aside for non themed 
 submissions.
 
 I don't think that Scott stopped accepting those submissions but I don't 
 think that JAlbum supports a way to segregate a second sub-album on the 
 same page.
 
 I guess I have two questions, are we now not going to accept non-themed 
 submissions or are we just going to continue on as before with the 
 themed and non themed photos mixed together?  Not that I remember the 
 last time a non-themed photo was submitted mind you, and I phrased that 
 as one question didn't I.  Oh well...


The 'Open Gallery' component of the PUG seems to have declined since
about 2006.  I had assumed that this was because of the increased
popularity of PESO/PAWs and that there were very few open gallery
submissions.

There's no real reason why they couldn't be re-instituted if members
want that feature.  I think JAlbum could be set up to do it using
sub-folders as part of the gallery compilation process but, even if not,
it wouldn't be difficult to separate the themed and non-themed sections
by editing the index file manually.

So, any interest in including 'Open Galleries'? Feedback would be
appreciated



Cheers

Brian

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 On 12/4/2010 6:39 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
  G'day all
 
  As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
  I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
  see...
 
  Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:
 
  The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
  do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
  members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
  compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
  enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
  back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.
 
  The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
  Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.
 
  There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
  operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
  Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
  Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
  much the same as in the past.
 
  I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.
 
 
 
  Cheers
 
  Brian
 
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-05 Thread Brian Walters
Just another thought

We could include an 'Open Gallery' as one of the monthly themes


Cheers

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On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 09:16 +1100, Brian Walters
supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 13:49 -0500, P. J. Alling
 webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
  In the past IIRC the past  part of gallery was set aside for non themed 
  submissions.
  
  I don't think that Scott stopped accepting those submissions but I don't 
  think that JAlbum supports a way to segregate a second sub-album on the 
  same page.
  
  I guess I have two questions, are we now not going to accept non-themed 
  submissions or are we just going to continue on as before with the 
  themed and non themed photos mixed together?  Not that I remember the 
  last time a non-themed photo was submitted mind you, and I phrased that 
  as one question didn't I.  Oh well...
 
 
 The 'Open Gallery' component of the PUG seems to have declined since
 about 2006.  I had assumed that this was because of the increased
 popularity of PESO/PAWs and that there were very few open gallery
 submissions.
 
 There's no real reason why they couldn't be re-instituted if members
 want that feature.  I think JAlbum could be set up to do it using
 sub-folders as part of the gallery compilation process but, even if not,
 it wouldn't be difficult to separate the themed and non-themed sections
 by editing the index file manually.
 
 So, any interest in including 'Open Galleries'? Feedback would be
 appreciated
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
 ++
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 Western Sydney Australia
 http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
 
 
 
  
  On 12/4/2010 6:39 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
   G'day all
  
   As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
   I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
   see...
  
   Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:
  
   The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
   do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
   members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
   compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
   enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
   back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.
  
   The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
   Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.
  
   There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
   operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
   Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
   Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
   much the same as in the past.
  
   I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.
  
  
  
   Cheers
  
   Brian
  
   ++
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-05 Thread Rob Studdert
On 6 December 2010 09:16, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 So, any interest in including 'Open Galleries'? Feedback would be
 appreciated

Yep, it's difficult to find a Pentax Photo Gellery Reject if you've
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Well, if one has never submitted to PPG, then one has never had an
image accepted, which is pretty much the same as having them all
rejected, so, anything is eligible!

Dan
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On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 6 December 2010 09:16, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 So, any interest in including 'Open Galleries'? Feedback would be
 appreciated

 Yep, it's difficult to find a Pentax Photo Gellery Reject if you've
 never sunmitted ;-)

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-05 Thread eckinator
2010/12/5 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:

 Well, if one has never submitted to PPG, then one has never had an
 image accepted, which is pretty much the same as having them all
 rejected, so, anything is eligible!

wow... talk about incomplete deduction... sounds like military logic,
Lt. Dan ]=P

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Hey, I'm just trying to get everyone to submit to the PUG!

Dan
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On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:45 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/12/5 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:

 Well, if one has never submitted to PPG, then one has never had an
 image accepted, which is pretty much the same as having them all
 rejected, so, anything is eligible!

 wow... talk about incomplete deduction... sounds like military logic,
 Lt. Dan ]=P

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-05 Thread Peter Loveday
I'd really like to see the limits increased a bit on the PUG.  256K? 720 
pixels?  Welcome to 1998 :)


- Peter

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Walters

Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 10:09 AM
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Subject: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

G'day all

As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
see...

Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:

The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.

The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.

There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
much the same as in the past.

I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-05 Thread eckinator
2010/12/6 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:

 Hey, I'm just trying to get everyone to submit [...]

just as I said...

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-05 Thread Paul Sorenson
JAlbum/Chameleon lets you create multiple album folders.  You can either 
put submissions in separate theme/non-theme folders on an index page - 
like this...


http://jalbum.net/browse/user/album/835317/

Or you can put the themed album on the main index page along with the 
icon for the non-themed sub-album.  Either way you need to go back to 
the main index page to navigate to the sub-albums.


You can also designate an image to show as a thumbnail for any given 
folder instead of the generic folder image.


-p

On 12/5/2010 12:49 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
In the past IIRC the past  part of gallery was set aside for non 
themed submissions.


I don't think that Scott stopped accepting those submissions but I 
don't think that JAlbum supports a way to segregate a second sub-album 
on the same page.


I guess I have two questions, are we now not going to accept 
non-themed submissions or are we just going to continue on as before 
with the themed and non themed photos mixed together?  Not that I 
remember the last time a non-themed photo was submitted mind you, and 
I phrased that as one question didn't I.  Oh well...


On 12/4/2010 6:39 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
see...

Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:

The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.

The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.

There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
much the same as in the past.

I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-05 Thread P. J. Alling

On 12/5/2010 5:32 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

On 6 December 2010 09:16, Brian Walterssupera1...@fastmail.fm  wrote:


So, any interest in including 'Open Galleries'? Feedback would be
appreciated

Yep, it's difficult to find a Pentax Photo Gellery Reject if you've
never sunmitted ;-)

I never submitted because I figured they'd all be rejected.  It takes a 
certain kind of mind to appreciate my lack of vision.


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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Congrats and condolences :-)

seriously, _ I'm sure you'll do a terrific job  - though why anyone 
would want to do it is way beyond me... I'm awfully glad
someone did!  


ann the traditionalist

p.s. So... what month are we having the cat photos?



Brian Walters wrote:


G'day all

As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
see...

Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:

The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.  


The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.

There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
much the same as in the past.

I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-04 Thread Brian Walters
On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 18:53 -0500, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
wrote:
 Congrats and condolences :-)
 
 seriously, _ I'm sure you'll do a terrific job  - though why anyone 
 would want to do it is way beyond me... I'm awfully glad
 someone did!  
 
 ann the traditionalist
 
 p.s. So... what month are we having the cat photos?
 



I think cat photos can be interpreted to fit any theme


Cheers

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 Brian Walters wrote:
 
 G'day all
 
 As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
 I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
 see...
 
 Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:
 
 The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
 do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
 members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
 compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
 enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
 back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.  
 
 The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
 Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.
 
 There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
 operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
 Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
 Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
 much the same as in the past.
 
 I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-04 Thread Igor Roshchin

On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 18:53 -0500, Ann Sanfedele annsan at nyc.rr.com
wrote:
 
 ann the traditionalist
 
 p.s. So... what month are we having the cat photos?
 

I don't remember catastrophy, catapults or catalogs suggested
as themes for the next year..

:-)

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Brian Walters wrote:


On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 18:53 -0500, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
wrote:
 


Congrats and condolences :-)

seriously, _ I'm sure you'll do a terrific job  - though why anyone 
would want to do it is way beyond me... I'm awfully glad
someone did!  


ann the traditionalist

p.s. So... what month are we having the cat photos?

   





I think cat photos can be interpreted to fit any theme


Cheers

Brian

 


lol - well yes that is true

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-04 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 18:53:16 -0500
Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 ann the traditionalist
 
 p.s. So... what month are we having the cat photos?

Every month. just need to stretch on the themes a bit.

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-04 Thread Christine Aguila
You'll be great, Brian.  Looking forward to the 2011 PUG.  And thanks for 
all your hard work, Scott.  Very much appreciated.  Cheers, Christine




- Original Message - 
From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm

To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 5:39 PM
Subject: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011



G'day all

As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
see...

Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:

The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.

The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.

There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
much the same as in the past.

I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

2010-12-04 Thread Boris Liberman

On 12/5/2010 1:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
see...


Let me point out that I have a hunch, just a hunch, Brian that you'll do 
great.


I hope to be able to participate in the project in more orderly manner.

Boris

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2009-06-08 Thread P. J. Alling

John Sessoms wrote:

From: Matthew Miller

On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 08:17:27PM -0400, Graydon wrote:

  Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930
 Really splendid photo but it's violent (at least implicatively) so 
the

 PUG won't generally take it.


Took me a while to figure out where the implicit violence was in the 
banjo
scene.  :) 


What you really need is an accordion.  Burns longer and gives a 
brighter flame.



So now it begins the Banjo Jokes.,,

Question:  How do you know the stage is level at a bluegrass concert?

Amswer:  The banjo player is drooling out of both sides of his mounth.


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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2009-06-07 Thread John Sessoms

From: Matthew Miller

On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 08:17:27PM -0400, Graydon wrote:

  Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930

 Really splendid photo but it's violent (at least implicatively) so the
 PUG won't generally take it.


Took me a while to figure out where the implicit violence was in the banjo
scene.  :) 


What you really need is an accordion.  Burns longer and gives a brighter 
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2009-06-06 Thread Bong Manayon
These are great--I especially like Reflection.

I had a string of accepted photos the previous month then an equal
number of rejected photos this month; the ones accepted were color
touristy type photos while the recent rejects had a collection of
black and whites (which included the Stripes photo which I PESOd
earlier).

Sigh...

On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:35 AM, 27...@comcast.net wrote:
 I just had three more not accepted. I give up.
 Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296946

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296949

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2009-06-06 Thread Graydon
On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 01:19:01AM -0400, Matthew Miller scripsit:
 On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 08:17:27PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
   Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe
   http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930
  Really splendid photo but it's violent (at least implicatively) so the
  PUG won't generally take it.
 
 Took me a while to figure out where the implicit violence was in the banjo
 scene. :)

It's a _banjo_.  Of course there's going to be violence. :)

And yah, responded to those in browser order, not listed order, so that
response goes with the burning car.

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2009-06-06 Thread Scott Loveless
On 6/5/09, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:35:55PM +, 27...@comcast.net scripsit:

  I just had three more not accepted. I give up.
   Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe
  
   http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930


 Really splendid photo but it's violent (at least implicatively) so the
  PUG won't generally take it.

Can we please not refer to the Pentax Photo Gallery as the PUG?  While
most of us know the difference, there may be a newcomer who doesn't.

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2009-06-06 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Scott Loveless

Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery





Can we please not refer to the Pentax Photo Gallery as the PUG?  While
most of us know the difference, there may be a newcomer who doesn't.



Absolutely
Refering to that upstart newbie gallery as the PUG is totally unacceptable.

William Robb

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2009-06-06 Thread Scott Loveless
On 6/6/09, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:

  - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless
  Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery

 
  Can we please not refer to the Pentax Photo Gallery as the PUG?  While
  most of us know the difference, there may be a newcomer who doesn't.
 
 

  Absolutely
  Refering to that upstart newbie gallery as the PUG is totally unacceptable.

Amen, Brother Bill.

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2009-06-06 Thread 272yb
I am glad I did not call it that !!

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Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery

On 6/6/09, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:

  - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless
  Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery

 
  Can we please not refer to the Pentax Photo Gallery as the PUG?  While
  most of us know the difference, there may be a newcomer who doesn't.
 
 

  Absolutely
  Refering to that upstart newbie gallery as the PUG is totally unacceptable.

Amen, Brother Bill.

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2009-06-06 Thread Igor Roshchin

I agree with John about posting to the Pentax Photo Gallery
(note that it is not a Pentax USER Gallery aka PUG!)

I might be overly cynical, - but with the huge number of shots in the
gallery, the likelyhood of some random visitor seeing your shot is
rather small (unless your photos are the featured ones, - like those
of Paul S.). Only those who went via direct link to the page with
your shots will make it there. But then, - it is not much different
from your own website gallery.
Hence, the main motivation to get your shots accepted is to get
the warm fuzzy feeling from that fact itself.

To rephrase an old joke:
What is common between posting your pictures to Pentax Photo Gallery and
peeing dark pants?
Nobody notices it but gives a warm feeling.

(I don't mean to offend the feelings of anybody who has their photos 
in the gallery, I'm just being facetious.)

I would also agree with what John said about the first 2 photos.
As for the 3rd photo, on the initial viewing, I missed that sign 
on the photo.  Indeed, it makes the situation rather ironical.

Cheers,

Igor

272yb at comcast.net 272yb at comcast.net wrote:

 John, OUCH, but thank you, I guess part of it is my fault because I 
 photographed the 11x14 prints outside with a K20D rather than scanning the 
 negs.I was in a hurry..As far as the fireman in the burning car photo, what 
 was more important to me was the intense flames and the no parking fire zone 
 sign. That is what made the photo and that is why it was published in a few 
 newspapers. Without the sign in the picture, it is just another car fire 
 photo. The person who owned the car went into the movie house and left the 
 car where it should not have been parked..Joe


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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml at pdml.net
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 7:54:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery


On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:35:55PM +, 272yb at comcast.net wrote:
 I just had three more not accepted. I give up.
 Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe

I think it's pretty much pointless to submit to the gallery
now - your shots get rejected by people who obviously have
a very different opinion of what makes a good image.

That said:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930

On my (admittedly uncalibrated) monitor, the wall to the
right of the banjo is a distracting burned-out area, as
is part of the page of the music.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296946

Here I'd be happier to see the entire chair in the
reflection, rather than having the top (?bottom?) cut off.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296949

The main figure - the firefighter - is almost lost against
the dark part of the background; a different angle would
be better, silhouetting the figure against the blaze.


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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2009-06-06 Thread Ken Waller
I try to make a daily visit to the Gallery  rate images  I have to say 
that I find myself rejecting most of what is presented. If I go thru 20 
images, on a good night there might be 4 or 5 that I will give the thumbs up 
to.


A lot of same ole same ole  family portraits, and Cats !

Kenneth Waller
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From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org

Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery




I agree with John about posting to the Pentax Photo Gallery
(note that it is not a Pentax USER Gallery aka PUG!)

I might be overly cynical, - but with the huge number of shots in the
gallery, the likelyhood of some random visitor seeing your shot is
rather small (unless your photos are the featured ones, - like those
of Paul S.). Only those who went via direct link to the page with
your shots will make it there. But then, - it is not much different
from your own website gallery.
Hence, the main motivation to get your shots accepted is to get
the warm fuzzy feeling from that fact itself.

To rephrase an old joke:
What is common between posting your pictures to Pentax Photo Gallery and
peeing dark pants?
Nobody notices it but gives a warm feeling.

(I don't mean to offend the feelings of anybody who has their photos
in the gallery, I'm just being facetious.)

I would also agree with what John said about the first 2 photos.
As for the 3rd photo, on the initial viewing, I missed that sign
on the photo.  Indeed, it makes the situation rather ironical.

Cheers,

Igor

272yb at comcast.net 272yb at comcast.net wrote:

John, OUCH, but thank you, I guess part of it is my fault because I 
photographed the 11x14 prints outside with a K20D rather than scanning 
the negs.I was in a hurry..As far as the fireman in the burning car 
photo, what was more important to me was the intense flames and the no 
parking fire zone sign. That is what made the photo and that is why it 
was published in a few newspapers. Without the sign in the picture, it is 
just another car fire photo. The person who owned the car went into the 
movie house and left the car where it should not have been parked..Joe



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From: John Francis johnf at panix.com
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Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 7:54:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery


On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:35:55PM +, 272yb at comcast.net wrote:

I just had three more not accepted. I give up.
Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe


I think it's pretty much pointless to submit to the gallery
now - your shots get rejected by people who obviously have
a very different opinion of what makes a good image.

That said:


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930


On my (admittedly uncalibrated) monitor, the wall to the
right of the banjo is a distracting burned-out area, as
is part of the page of the music.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296946


Here I'd be happier to see the entire chair in the
reflection, rather than having the top (?bottom?) cut off.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296949


The main figure - the firefighter - is almost lost against
the dark part of the background; a different angle would
be better, silhouetting the figure against the blaze.



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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2009-06-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Ken Waller wrote:

I try to make a daily visit to the Gallery  rate images  I have to say 
that I find myself rejecting most of what is presented. If I go thru 20 
images, on a good night there might be 4 or 5 that I will give the thumbs up 
to.

I find my acceptance rate varies between 5% and 10%.
But I do find it's great visual exercise to go through judging these
photos and thinking about what should be done better.

I often wish I could send the photographer a message like, You're
*so* close to something really good! Just crop... or use a curves
adjustment... or go back in better light.. etc. Of course, it's
totally impractical for them to accept comments - I can just imagine
the kind of flame wars that would erupt. But I often feel the
overpowering desire to offer encouragement for a promising effort
rather than just clicking no.

And I think everyone should spend 5 minutes browsing through the
recently accepted images before uploading their own. That's a dose of
reality!


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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2009-06-06 Thread Ken Waller


Kenneth Waller
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From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com


Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery



Ken Waller wrote:


I try to make a daily visit to the Gallery  rate images  I have to say
that I find myself rejecting most of what is presented. If I go thru 20
images, on a good night there might be 4 or 5 that I will give the thumbs 
up

to.


I find my acceptance rate varies between 5% and 10%.
But I do find it's great visual exercise to go through judging these
photos and thinking about what should be done better.


Same here.



I often wish I could send the photographer a message like, You're
*so* close to something really good! Just crop... or use a curves
adjustment... or go back in better light.. etc.


Again, same here.


Of course, it's
totally impractical for them to accept comments - I can just imagine
the kind of flame wars that would erupt. But I often feel the
overpowering desire to offer encouragement for a promising effort
rather than just clicking no.

And I think everyone should spend 5 minutes browsing through the
recently accepted images before uploading their own. That's a dose of
reality!


Agreed!



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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2009-06-06 Thread Jack Davis

What Mark said. I continuously experience that same helpless if only feeling 
of wanting to pass along a clue that might even have a positive application 
throughout their photo life.
Voting, for me, is never boring because however tender the experience, I can 
always relate.

Jack 

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 From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com
 Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 2:58 PM
 Ken Waller wrote:
 
 I try to make a daily visit to the Gallery  rate
 images  I have to say 
 that I find myself rejecting most of what is presented.
 If I go thru 20 
 images, on a good night there might be 4 or 5 that I
 will give the thumbs up 
 to.
 
 I find my acceptance rate varies between 5% and 10%.
 But I do find it's great visual exercise to go through
 judging these
 photos and thinking about what should be done better.
 
 I often wish I could send the photographer a message like,
 You're
 *so* close to something really good! Just crop... or use a
 curves
 adjustment... or go back in better light.. etc. Of course,
 it's
 totally impractical for them to accept comments - I can
 just imagine
 the kind of flame wars that would erupt. But I often feel
 the
 overpowering desire to offer encouragement for a promising
 effort
 rather than just clicking no.
 
 And I think everyone should spend 5 minutes browsing
 through the
 recently accepted images before uploading their own. That's
 a dose of
 reality!
 
 
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2009-06-05 Thread John Francis

On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:35:55PM +, 27...@comcast.net wrote:
 I just had three more not accepted. I give up.
 Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe

I think it's pretty much pointless to submit to the gallery
now - your shots get rejected by people who obviously have
a very different opinion of what makes a good image.

That said:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930

On my (admittedly uncalibrated) monitor, the wall to the
right of the banjo is a distracting burned-out area, as
is part of the page of the music.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296946

Here I'd be happier to see the entire chair in the
reflection, rather than having the top (?bottom?) cut off.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296949

The main figure - the firefighter - is almost lost against
the dark part of the background; a different angle would
be better, silhouetting the figure against the blaze.




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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2009-06-05 Thread Graydon
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:35:55PM +, 27...@comcast.net scripsit:
 I just had three more not accepted. I give up.
 Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930

Really splendid photo but it's violent (at least implicatively) so the
PUG won't generally take it.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296946

Crop is too tight; the top of the chair goes away in the reflection and
the image loses its unities.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296949

Same, I think, but with the page corner.  It's also, however well
executed, kinda bland.  And a banjo.

-- Graydon

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2009-06-05 Thread 272yb
John, OUCH, but thank you, I guess part of it is my fault because I 
photographed the 11x14 prints outside with a K20D rather than scanning the 
negs.I was in a hurry..As far as the fireman in the burning car photo, what was 
more important to me was the intense flames and the no parking fire zone sign. 
That is what made the photo and that is why it was published in a few 
newspapers. Without the sign in the picture, it is just another car fire photo. 
The person who owned the car went into the movie house and left the car where 
it should not have been parked..Joe


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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 7:54:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery


On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:35:55PM +, 27...@comcast.net wrote:
 I just had three more not accepted. I give up.
 Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe

I think it's pretty much pointless to submit to the gallery
now - your shots get rejected by people who obviously have
a very different opinion of what makes a good image.

That said:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930

On my (admittedly uncalibrated) monitor, the wall to the
right of the banjo is a distracting burned-out area, as
is part of the page of the music.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296946

Here I'd be happier to see the entire chair in the
reflection, rather than having the top (?bottom?) cut off.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296949

The main figure - the firefighter - is almost lost against
the dark part of the background; a different angle would
be better, silhouetting the figure against the blaze.




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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2009-06-05 Thread Graydon
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 08:17:27PM -0400, Graydon scripsit:
 On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:35:55PM +, 27...@comcast.net scripsit:
  I just had three more not accepted. I give up.
  Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe
  
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930
 
 Really splendid photo but it's violent (at least implicatively) so the
 PUG won't generally take it.
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296946
 
 Crop is too tight; the top of the chair goes away in the reflection and
 the image loses its unities.
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296949
 
 Same, I think, but with the page corner.  It's also, however well
 executed, kinda bland.  And a banjo.

And of firefighter and the banjo are in reverse order because I didn't
check the IDs; sorry!

-- Graydon

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2009-06-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 08:17:27PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
  Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930
 Really splendid photo but it's violent (at least implicatively) so the
 PUG won't generally take it.

Took me a while to figure out where the implicit violence was in the banjo
scene. :)


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Re: RE railroads - was Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme:

2003-09-14 Thread David Mann
Dave wrote:

  you go training, you use nothing but a 135mm and take nothing but
  details... How about Sunday 28 Sept? (My birthday by the way...)
 
 Its mine too.
 What say all those who were born on Sept 28 take out a 135 and shoot a
 train/RR shot on said day and post there results.Yes no???

Am I allowed to join in?  Mine's the 27th.

Cheers,

- Dave

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Re: RE railroads - was Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme:

2003-09-14 Thread brooksdj
 Dave wrote:
 
   you go training, you use nothing but a 135mm and take nothing but
   details... How about Sunday 28 Sept? (My birthday by the way...)
  
  Its mine too.
  What say all those who were born on Sept 28 take out a 135 and shoot a
  train/RR shot on said day and post there results.Yes no???
 
 Am I allowed to join in?  Mine's the 27th.

You can use a 105,Dave.lol

Dave
 
 Cheers,
 
 - Dave
 
 http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
 
 






Re: RE railroads - was Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

2003-09-14 Thread Eactivist
Its mine too.
What say all those who were born on Sept 28 take out a 135 and shoot a 
train/RR shot on
said day and post there results.Yes no???

Dave

Weird. My birthday is the 29th. Unfortunately there are few trains around 
here.

Marnie aka Doe :-) Which is besides the point because I don't have a 135, 
although I do have a zoom in that range.



Re: RE railroads - was Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

2003-09-13 Thread Anders Hultman
Stan Halpin:

Hi Anders! I think I would half agree with Paul about your train photos. He
says too touristic. For me that would mean that you are using cliche
composition. I think the issue is rather that you are being a recorder of
events rather than an artist.
I haven't thought so much about my goal with these pictures, but when 
you say it, it may be that my aim is to record and document rather 
than being overly artistic. Or touristic, for that matter.

In the case of the pictures from the abandoned railroad cars and 
tracks in the industrial park, the aim definitely was to document how 
the site once looked like; it is now torn down.

For the excursion pictures, the aim is not that clear cut, but since 
these excursions are more or less one-off events, one of the most 
important reasons for taking pictures at all is to save what I 
experience during the ride. And it's quite hard to both photographing 
artistically and participarting in the excursion at the same time. I 
have thought of going to some railway on any ordinary day and then 
I'd have more room to concentrate on the images.

Touristic to me means the classic this is me in front of X, this 
is me in front of Y pictures, and those I want to avoid :-)

I would suggest as an exercise that the next time
you go training, you use nothing but a 135mm and take nothing but
details... How about Sunday 28 Sept? (My birthday by the way...)
Now, that would really be a challenge! I happen to have a 135 prime, 
but I very seldom use that, or the 135 position on my 28-200 zoom for 
that matter. I tend to use 28-50-200 most of the time. Maybe I should 
do some dedicated 135 mm exercises, just to get a feel for it.

anders
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Re: RE railroads - was Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

2003-09-13 Thread brooksdj
Stan scribed: I would suggest as an exercise that 
the next 
time
 you go training, you use nothing but a 135mm and take nothing but
 details... How about Sunday 28 Sept? (My birthday by the way...)
 
 on 9/12/03 10:53 AM, Paul Delcour at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Its mine too.
What say all those who were born on Sept 28 take out a 135 and shoot a train/RR shot on
said day and post there results.Yes no???

Dave





Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2003-09-12 Thread frank theriault
Hi,

Well, some months I critique my faves, once in a while I do them all - it depends on my
time and inclination.  I don't think I've done it in a few months, mostly because my
monitor only does bw, I'm too cheap to buy a new one, and I feel uncomfortable
commenting on colour pics if I can't see the colours! g

A few years ago, Chris Brogden, late of this list, organized a little critque group.
Each month, all those who were part of the group were assigned a number of photos,
and critiqued them on-list.  It went on for maybe 6 months, and kind of devolved.
People didn't complete their assignments, and I think it just became too much for
Chris.  All photos were open to criticism unless a specific no comments please was on
the photo.

It was fun, but I have to admit, it was hard to comment of photos that I really didn't
like.  I'd always try to find something positive to say to temper my criticism, but
that's not always easy.

I think such a loosely organized critique circle might be fun to start up again
though.  Anyone interested?

cheers,
frank

Boris Liberman wrote:

 Hi!

 Just by the way, getting a critique on one photographs should help
 them to extract more from their equipment and learn/advance a
 technique they are using.

 So, at least by the above reason we might need to increase PUG
 critique volume grin and duck.


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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2003-09-12 Thread Eactivist
I think such a loosely organized critique circle might be fun to start up 
again
though.  Anyone interested?

cheers,
frank

Sure. But one little hitch. I organize a critique sort of board in another 
realm, another genre -- one that gives out assignments. And believe me the 
little hitch isn't that little, getting people to follow through. I keep telling 
people I am not their Mom and hate nagging, but push come to shove I just about 
always have to do follow-up letters nagging them to complete their reviews. 
(Well, 90-99% of the time, some just do it.) (We are talking reviews of hobbyist 
computer games here, BTW.)

Maybe just encouraging people to do some comments is better. Like, say, you 
do some comments, I do some, others do some, and just put at the end of our 
posts a general call for more comments. Hey, I did some, you do some too!

I find just picking out 5-8-10 is best. Hard to do them all.

And sometimes I hesitate because I am not an experienced photographer and my 
comments tend to be more toward color balance and composition, and sort of 
arty, but no technical stuff. And probably uninformed.

But I figure people like feedback, even if brief or not what they 
particularly wanted to hear about their stuff.

I have noticed, since I've been on the list, that people usually, actually 
get more comments when they post a URL to their latest stuff than when they 
submit things to the PUG. Comments on submissions to the PUG are hit and miss. 
Maybe 30 people submitted, but only 8-10 got comments ;-). But posting URLs, just 
about everyone gets a comment or two.

Anyway, if you want to organize something feel free, frank, but I recommend 
not volunteering for something that may become more of a headache than you 
think.

Maybe just a general call for more PUG comments at the end of one's post of 
comments would be best.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)



Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2003-09-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

I'm new to the group and have a question.  I noticed in the gallery this 
coming month's gallery theme is Professional.  What is the criteria for 
Professional?  Is this in regards to professional photography, photographs 
of a profession or speaks of a profession or what?  Please give me a hint, 
thanks.

Charlton

Over to you, Bill...


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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2003-09-11 Thread dagt
 Fra: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Charlton Vaughan
 
  I'm new to the group and have a question.  I noticed in the gallery this
  coming month's gallery theme is Professional.  What is the criteria for
  Professional?  Is this in regards to professional photography, photographs
  of a profession or speaks of a profession or what?  Please give me a hint,
  thanks.

 Think about what the word professional means to you.
 Then try to capture it in a single frame.
 Good luck.
 I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery.

So do I :-)

Maybe we'll even have some non-technical discussions...

DagT



Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

2003-09-11 Thread Paul Delcour
If people look at me and say, but you're a professional conductor, they mean
that word implies I know it all, or at least a lot. I don't of course. The
word just means I conduct for a living, no matter how good ar bad: that has
nothing to do with it. Amateurs can be better at things than many a pro.
However, the experience and routine of a pro nearly always outdo the
amateur.

:-)

Paul Delcour

 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:44:58 -0600
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:45:18 -0400
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Charlton Vaughan
 Subject: Pentax Users Gallery
 
 
 
 I'm new to the group and have a question.  I noticed in the gallery this
 coming month's gallery theme is Professional.  What is the criteria for
 Professional?  Is this in regards to professional photography, photographs
 of a profession or speaks of a profession or what?  Please give me a hint,
 thanks.
 
 Think about what the word professional means to you.
 Then try to capture it in a single frame.
 Good luck.
 I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery.
 
 William (blame this one on me) Robb
 



RE: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

2003-09-11 Thread Bill Owens
Musical type conductor? If so, where.

Bill

-Original Message-
From: Paul Delcour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional


If people look at me and say, but you're a professional conductor, they
mean that word implies I know it all, or at least a lot. I don't of
course. The word just means I conduct for a living, no matter how good
ar bad: that has nothing to do with it. Amateurs can be better at things
than many a pro. However, the experience and routine of a pro nearly
always outdo the amateur.

:-)

Paul Delcour

 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:44:58 -0600
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:45:18 -0400
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Charlton Vaughan
 Subject: Pentax Users Gallery
 
 
 
 I'm new to the group and have a question.  I noticed in the gallery 
 this coming month's gallery theme is Professional.  What is the 
 criteria for Professional?  Is this in regards to professional 
 photography, photographs of a profession or speaks of a profession or

 what?  Please give me a hint, thanks.
 
 Think about what the word professional means to you.
 Then try to capture it in a single frame.
 Good luck.
 I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery.
 
 William (blame this one on me) Robb
 





Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

2003-09-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Musical type conductor? If so, where.

And if *not* a musical type conductor, what type???
(I've never met a professional electrical conductor!)


-Original Message-
From: Paul Delcour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional


If people look at me and say, but you're a professional conductor, they
mean that word implies I know it all, or at least a lot. I don't of
course. The word just means I conduct for a living, no matter how good
ar bad: that has nothing to do with it. Amateurs can be better at things
than many a pro. However, the experience and routine of a pro nearly
always outdo the amateur.

:-)

Paul Delcour

 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:44:58 -0600
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:45:18 -0400
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Charlton Vaughan
 Subject: Pentax Users Gallery
 
 
 
 I'm new to the group and have a question.  I noticed in the gallery 
 this coming month's gallery theme is Professional.  What is the 
 criteria for Professional?  Is this in regards to professional 
 photography, photographs of a profession or speaks of a profession or

 what?  Please give me a hint, thanks.
 
 Think about what the word professional means to you.
 Then try to capture it in a single frame.
 Good luck.
 I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery.
 
 William (blame this one on me) Robb
 



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RE: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

2003-09-11 Thread Bill Owens
Railroad

Bill

-Original Message-
From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional


Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Musical type conductor? If so, where.

And if *not* a musical type conductor, what type???
(I've never met a professional electrical conductor!)


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From: Paul Delcour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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If people look at me and say, but you're a professional conductor, they
mean that word implies I know it all, or at least a lot. I don't of
course. The word just means I conduct for a living, no matter how good
ar bad: that has nothing to do with it. Amateurs can be better at things
than many a pro. However, the experience and routine of a pro nearly
always outdo the amateur.

:-)

Paul Delcour

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 - Original Message -
 From: Charlton Vaughan
 Subject: Pentax Users Gallery
 
 
 
 I'm new to the group and have a question.  I noticed in the gallery 
 this coming month's gallery theme is Professional.  What is the 
 criteria for Professional?  Is this in regards to professional 
 photography, photographs of a profession or speaks of a profession or

 what?  Please give me a hint, thanks.
 
 Think about what the word professional means to you.
 Then try to capture it in a single frame.
 Good luck.
 I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery.
 
 William (blame this one on me) Robb
 



-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com




Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

2003-09-11 Thread Chris Stoddart

Bus or Tram (at least in Europe) :-)

 Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Musical type conductor? If so, where.

 And if *not* a musical type conductor, what type???
 (I've never met a professional electrical conductor!)

Chris ding, ding all aboard.



Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

2003-09-11 Thread Paul Delcour
Hilversum and surrounding areas, Netherlands.

:-)

Paul

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 Musical type conductor? If so, where.
 
 Bill
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Delcour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:18 AM
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 Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional
 
 
 If people look at me and say, but you're a professional conductor, they
 mean that word implies I know it all, or at least a lot. I don't of
 course. The word just means I conduct for a living, no matter how good
 ar bad: that has nothing to do with it. Amateurs can be better at things
 than many a pro. However, the experience and routine of a pro nearly
 always outdo the amateur.
 
 :-)
 
 Paul Delcour
 
 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:44:58 -0600
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:45:18 -0400
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Charlton Vaughan
 Subject: Pentax Users Gallery
 
 
 
 I'm new to the group and have a question.  I noticed in the gallery
 this coming month's gallery theme is Professional.  What is the
 criteria for Professional?  Is this in regards to professional
 photography, photographs of a profession or speaks of a profession or
 
 what?  Please give me a hint, thanks.
 
 Think about what the word professional means to you.
 Then try to capture it in a single frame.
 Good luck.
 I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery.
 
 William (blame this one on me) Robb
 
 
 
 



Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

2003-09-11 Thread Paul Delcour
You'be amazed at much electricity I conduct when conducting...

:-)

Paul Delcour

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 Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Musical type conductor? If so, where.
 
 And if *not* a musical type conductor, what type???
 (I've never met a professional electrical conductor!)
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Delcour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:18 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional
 
 
 If people look at me and say, but you're a professional conductor, they
 mean that word implies I know it all, or at least a lot. I don't of
 course. The word just means I conduct for a living, no matter how good
 ar bad: that has nothing to do with it. Amateurs can be better at things
 than many a pro. However, the experience and routine of a pro nearly
 always outdo the amateur.
 
 :-)
 
 Paul Delcour
 
 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:44:58 -0600
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:45:18 -0400
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Charlton Vaughan
 Subject: Pentax Users Gallery
 
 
 
 I'm new to the group and have a question.  I noticed in the gallery
 this coming month's gallery theme is Professional.  What is the
 criteria for Professional?  Is this in regards to professional
 photography, photographs of a profession or speaks of a profession or
 
 what?  Please give me a hint, thanks.
 
 Think about what the word professional means to you.
 Then try to capture it in a single frame.
 Good luck.
 I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery.
 
 William (blame this one on me) Robb
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Mark Roberts
 Photography and writing
 www.robertstech.com
 



Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

2003-09-11 Thread Paul Delcour
I'd love to have railroad as a theme being a mad train lover myself, though,
whenever I take pictures of trains myself I am never happy with the result.
Somnehow I do not seem to have the feel for how to put them in the frame
properly. O well, I'll just enjoy the real thing.

:-)

Paul Delcour



Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

2003-09-11 Thread Alin Flaider

  Actually I met several picturesque coach drivers. They certainly
  displayed a conductor's sobriety. Anyone around? ;o)

  Servus,Alin
  
Chris wrote:

CS Bus or Tram (at least in Europe) :-)

 Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Musical type conductor? If so, where.

 And if *not* a musical type conductor, what type???
 (I've never met a professional electrical conductor!)

CS Chris ding, ding all aboard.



Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

2003-09-11 Thread Eactivist
P.S. Your best choice for automatic field fill in, is probably creating some 
drop down lists. You cam do this in the form wizard. 

Marnie aka Doe  And linking your tables, as others have mentioned.



Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2003-09-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Fra: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]


   Think about what the word professional means to you.
   Then try to capture it in a single frame.
   Good luck.
   I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery.

 So do I :-)

 Maybe we'll even have some non-technical discussions...

 DagT

Oh-oh...

annsan




Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2003-09-11 Thread Steve Desjardins
Let's face it, the _vast_ majority of PDML
posts are technoweenie posts, and I'm as guilty as anyone.

Technoweenie?  I resent the accuracy of that remark.

Steve (sulking)



Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

2003-09-11 Thread Anders Hultman
Paul Delcour:

I'd love to have railroad as a theme being a mad train lover myself, though,
whenever I take pictures of trains myself I am never happy with the result.
Somnehow I do not seem to have the feel for how to put them in the frame
properly. O well, I'll just enjoy the real thing.
What makes you unhappy with the results?

I find that railroads are a bit tricky to take pictures of, since 
both cars and tracks are so very, very big. You can't back off to get 
a bigger picture since then you'll get unwanted objects in the 
foreground, often hiding the main thing, and if you use wide angle 
the perspective gets distorded and straight lines get inclined in a 
bad way.

Here are some of my railroad pictures, feel free to comment. (The 
captions are in Swedish, but they mostly tell the names of places, 
and you'll get the picture anyway :-)

Steam engine excursion on a Stockholm commuter railway.
  http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/alok-saltsj-1999
Steam engine excursion on another Stockholm commuter railway.
  http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/alok-nyn-2001
On picture 25 and 26 I drive the steam engine myself! Unfortunately 
the film wind lever on my newly bought used ProgramA jammed, so they 
are double exposed, and looks quite strange, but nevertheless...

A mile long museum track, all what's left of the railways on Gotland island.
  http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/dalhem-2002
Sweden's longest museum railway, a 20 mile/33 km narrow gauge track.
  http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/lennakatten-2002
Steam engine excursion on a cargo track in Stockholm.
  http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/alok-vartan-2002
Abandoned railroad cars and tracks in a Stockholm industrial park.
  http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/liljeholmen-1996
Delivery of a newly built subway car from the factory.
  http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/C20-lil
Building of a new tramline in Stockholm's southern suburbs.
Delivery of a newly built subway car from the factory.
  http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/C20-gup
anders
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http://anders.hultman.nu/


Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2003-09-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

Just by the way, getting a critique on one photographs should help
them to extract more from their equipment and learn/advance a
technique they are using.

So, at least by the above reason we might need to increase PUG
critique volume grin and duck.

Boris

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LW I've gotten into commenting on the PUG here on PDML in the
LW last few months.  Let's face it, the _vast_ majority of PDML
LW posts are technoweenie posts, and I'm as guilty as anyone.

LW But the PUG shots let us see a different side of each other:
LW The camera-eye side.  And that is very nifty.  I agree with
LW AnnaSan that PUG comments should be a bigger part of the PDML.

LW Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Actually, there is very little comment on the PUG sumissions any more,
compared to what occured some time ago.  I think that more comments from more
PDMLers would be beneficial to all concerned, even if the comments got a bit
nasty at times.  We're all adults, capable of submitting photos to a
professional themed gallery, and we can take criticism that is base on
photographic ideas and values.
 
 
 We don't really know there are not a lot of comments -- remember people can
 comment directly to the photographers individually.  I think, on the whole, that
 is
 a much better idea.
 
 annsan
 
 


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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

2003-09-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Lon Williamson wrote:

 

 But the PUG shots let us see a different side of each other:
 The camera-eye side.  And that is very nifty.  I agree with
 AnnaSan that PUG comments should be a bigger part of the PDML.

OOOPS!  Yikes!
Nope not moi, I didn't say that
I quoted Dan who said .

 Actually, there is very little comment on the PUG sumissions any more,
 compared to what occured some time ago.  I think that more comments from more
 PDMLers would be beneficial to all concerned..

THen I, annsan, replied:

  We don't really know there are not a lot of comments -- remember people can
  comment directly to the photographers individually.  I think, on the whole, that
  is  a much better idea.
 
  annsan
 

I am and was more  in favor of keeping _critiques_ off-list except for the
concept of faves or that tech stuff that sometimes in interesting.   I think the idea
of mention favorites and why the speak to you is fine, but correct and critique in
private.

What I Had gone on about recently was merely suggesting that no oneshould submit
a photo to the PUG that they are not pleased with themselves..

PDML is fine for showing stuff to each other one is not happy with and asking for
help,
but keep that separate from our gallery.

Ugh - now I'm getting into this and don't have much time to elaborate

annsan (who likes to stay in lower case :)  )