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On 10/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: The main purpose i use the preview screen on my 10D for whilst shooting is to check for blown high lights (they flash black and white). Review. Lest anyone gets the wrong idea ;-) Its a great tool. Agreed. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
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Earlier Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main purpose i use the preview screen on my 10D for whilst shooting is to check for blown high lights (they flash black and white). and Robe Studdart wrote: It's not a loss of skill, it's a new set of tools. And I think that's the evolution. First we guessed. Then we used that little chart that came packed with every roll of Kodak film. Then we used a meter. Then we used a meter built into the camera. Then we used a meter built into the camera that actually controlled the shutter, aperture or both. Then we got really fancy built in meters The we got histograms Now we want flashing highlights. And on it continues... Every step along the way we made it a little faster or simpler, but at the same time we made it more difficult in a different way. Not complaining, just observing. See you later, gs www.georgesphotos.net
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Very nice! There´s an M* 300mm for sale here for about $350. Maybe I can buy it now :-) DagT På 9. jan. 2004 kl. 04.59 skrev William Robb: Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. EV comp im manual is a nice touch. The ist D camera just got a whole lot better. William Robb
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Very nice! There´s an M* 300mm for sale here for about $350. Maybe I can buy it now :-) DagT You're enabled ! Antti-Pekka --- Antti-Pekka Virjonen Computec Oy, Turku Finland Gsm: +358-500-789 753 www.computec.fi * www.estera.fi
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HORRRAAAY Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. EV comp im manual is a nice touch. The ist D camera just got a whole lot better. HORRRAAAY again! A big THANK YOU to Pentax for listening to us, for reading our letters, and for caring for our complaints This may be the best answer that you possibly could have given Another big THANK YOU to the Pentax staff who pushed, took and implemented this decision NOW I'll start saving for an *ist D Arnold
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Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. EV comp im manual is a nice touch. The ist D camera just got a whole lot better. Pretty much exactly what I predicted would be the best we could hope for, back when the camera was first released. I'm favourably impressed; while it was apparent that these capabilities were technically feasible, I still thought that the hyper manual stop-down metering was too much to expect.
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John Francis said: Pretty much exactly what I predicted would be the best we could hope for, back when the camera was first released. I'm favourably impressed; while it was apparent that these capabilities were technically feasible, I still thought that the hyper manual stop-down metering was too much to expect. I find it interesting that they chose to address M-lens compatibility with new firmware *first*, of all the other potential things they could have done. They could have, say, added flashing red blown highlights, which would seem to be of value to a wider audience. It does seem that they realised that a large number of (potential) *istD owners value their old lenses. For me, the fact that they issued a firmware update at all makes me more confident that they might issue a next one later, maybe adding blown highlight indication then and histogram on instant review then. But I also wanted M-lens compatibility *first* :-) -- ,_ /_) /| / / i e t e r/ |/ a g e l This message was sent using MetroWEB's AirMail service. http://www.metroweb.co.za/ - full access for only R59. Free WebMail, Calendar, Anti-Virus, Anti-Spam, 10 emails Phone Now! 086 11 11 440
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Anybody on the list capable of looking at the code to see if they've done anything in this update that they aren't talking about? Covert bug/exposure fixes? Then news is great and I wonder what else might be there... Cory - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:59 PM Subject: version 1.1 Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. EV comp im manual is a nice touch. The ist D camera just got a whole lot better. William Robb --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.559 / Virus Database: 351 - Release Date: 1/7/2004
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John Francis said: Pretty much exactly what I predicted would be the best we could hope for, back when the camera was first released. I'm favourably impressed; while it was apparent that these capabilities were technically feasible, I still thought that the hyper manual stop-down metering was too much to expect. Hello, this is Thomas from Germany! I also just installed the new firmware; all language settings and user settings are kept after doing this - nice! Only date and time had be set again. Stop-down metering works well, I think I won't sell my SMC-M 85/2.0 that soon now... :-) But the best part of it: Green button or not, in M you also have full metering now with the DOF-preview activated! This of course also works with the vertical grip, and with all lenses be in K, M, A, F or FA! Very nice! This quite adds a Spottie-feeling to the Starkist, and I think I will use most of my lenses more often out of A again...better useabililty when swapping between different (and older) bodies. :-) Thomas
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John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still thought that the hyper manual stop-down metering was too much to expect. This idea may have been nixed because of concerns about battery drain. The stop-down solenoid may not draw a *lot* of current, it's probably a significant amount in the context of an already-power-hungry DSLR. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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At 04:13 AM 09/01/2004 -0500, you wrote: From: Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very nice! There´s an M* 300mm for sale here for about $350. Maybe I can buy it now :-) DagT Sell you mine for that price if you want! Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada http://www.beard-redfern.com
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wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dag T wrote: Very nice! There´s an M* 300mm for sale here for about $350. Maybe I can buy it now :-) Sell you mine for that price if you want! Oh great. Prices on K and M lenses are going back up again already! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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I downloaded direct to the camera instead of putting the installer on a CF card and putting that to the camera. Date - time and all other settings were preserved. Stan Thomas Stach wrote: this is Thomas from Germany! I also just installed the new firmware; all language settings and user settings are kept after doing this - nice! Only date and time had be set again.
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I used the card, and date and time was preserved. DagT På 9. jan. 2004 kl. 13.46 skrev Stan Halpin: I downloaded direct to the camera instead of putting the installer on a CF card and putting that to the camera. Date - time and all other settings were preserved. Stan Thomas Stach wrote: this is Thomas from Germany! I also just installed the new firmware; all language settings and user settings are kept after doing this - nice! Only date and time had be set again.
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Interesting. I wonder why Thomas lost his date-time settings. stan Dag T wrote: I used the card, and date and time was preserved. DagT På 9. jan. 2004 kl. 13.46 skrev Stan Halpin: I downloaded direct to the camera instead of putting the installer on a CF card and putting that to the camera. Thomas Stach wrote: I also just installed the new firmware; all language settings and user settings are kept after doing this - nice! Only date and time had be set again.
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Funny, but someone (or several folks) actually suggested the use of the DOF feature for the use of M/K lenses. I wonder if someone at Pentax picked up on this, or if they had already thought to do this and had simply rushed the camera to market before they could implement this feature. You know, with these fixes and at $1350 (BH) this is a pretty nice camera. vbg I'm now deeply curious at the proposed low end Baby D. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/04 03:58AM Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. EV comp im manual is a nice touch. The ist D camera just got a whole lot better. Pretty much exactly what I predicted would be the best we could hope for, back when the camera was first released. I'm favourably impressed; while it was apparent that these capabilities were technically feasible, I still thought that the hyper manual stop-down metering was too much to expect.
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Steve Desjardins wrote: You know, with these fixes and at $1350 (BH) this is a pretty nice camera. vbg I'm now deeply curious at the proposed low end Baby D. Hmm, Jessops (UK) have it listed at £1199.00, which with the exchange rate currently at ~$1.80 to the pound isn't very funny... unlike the rather unfortunate Jessops Code for the camera: http://www.jessops.com/search/viewproduct.cfm?PRODUCT=PENISTD S
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I'm curious about the high end baby... Ziggy -Original Message- From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 January 2004 15:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: version 1.1 Funny, but someone (or several folks) actually suggested the use of the DOF feature for the use of M/K lenses. I wonder if someone at Pentax picked up on this, or if they had already thought to do this and had simply rushed the camera to market before they could implement this feature. You know, with these fixes and at $1350 (BH) this is a pretty nice camera. vbg I'm now deeply curious at the proposed low end Baby D. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/04 03:58AM Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. EV comp im manual is a nice touch. The ist D camera just got a whole lot better. Pretty much exactly what I predicted would be the best we could hope for, back when the camera was first released. I'm favourably impressed; while it was apparent that these capabilities were technically feasible, I still thought that the hyper manual stop-down metering was too much to expect.
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On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Steve Jolly wrote: Hmm, Jessops (UK) have it listed at £1199.00, which with the exchange rate currently at ~$1.80 to the pound isn't very funny... We (UK) will never match US prices. However, our mate from sunny Brighton gives you the grip as well for the same price (bundle listed under Other Brands-Pentax Manual Focus - Miscellaneous Accessories, for some reason :-) http://www.camera-direct.com/other.asp Also, Park cameras offer it (w/o grip) at 1099.99. http://www.parkcameras.com/ I also cannot see what you could lose if you haggled even with your local Jessops. unlike the rather unfortunate Jessops Code for the camera: http://www.jessops.com/search/viewproduct.cfm?PRODUCT=PENISTD That's a screamer... Never heard of a Turbo Diesel one. High torque, low revs? I will get my coat. Kostas
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Very, Very Funny. Now I understand the stupid name. . . Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/04 10:30AM Steve Desjardins wrote: You know, with these fixes and at $1350 (BH) this is a pretty nice camera. vbg I'm now deeply curious at the proposed low end Baby D. Hmm, Jessops (UK) have it listed at £1199.00, which with the exchange rate currently at ~$1.80 to the pound isn't very funny... unlike the rather unfortunate Jessops Code for the camera: http://www.jessops.com/search/viewproduct.cfm?PRODUCT=PENISTD S
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You know, with these fixes and at $1350 (BH) this is a pretty nice camera. vbg I'm now deeply curious at the proposed low end Baby D. Steven Desjardins $1350? Andre
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Yes. The listed price is $1699 and you need to do the Add this to your cart to see a better price to see $1349.95. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/04 12:21PM You know, with these fixes and at $1350 (BH) this is a pretty nice camera. vbg I'm now deeply curious at the proposed low end Baby D. Steven Desjardins $1350? Andre
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On 9/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: unlike the rather unfortunate Jessops Code for the camera: http://www.jessops.com/search/viewproduct.cfm?PRODUCT=PENISTD ROTFL!! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: version 1.1
I assume the update is only for MSMC-M and SMC lenses, not for A If you want to use the lens off the A position, you need to set that in the menu. AT least in V1.00, I assume that didn't change. On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 22:59, Tom Lesser wrote: Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. I've just installed v1.1 and have tried several A lenses in off A apertures and when I press the green button in Manual, all I get is a flashing Av-- in the LCD panel. In fact, I get the flashing Av-- whether the mode is set to P, Tv, Av, M or B. Any help out there? Yes, the upgrade installation appears to have been successful ... when I hold down the Menu button and switch the camera ON, its says Version 1.1. Thanks. Tom Lesser -- Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The camera still is not aware of the aperture set on the lens. That's what is missing from the *ist series. Set an A lens off A use a small aperture i.e. F16 or F22 (I did this with one of my lenses this morning after upgrading to test it) Set Mode dial to Manual look in viewfinder and press green button. the aperture won't show up (it NEVER will with a lens off the A position) but the shutter speed will change and the viewfinder will get dark for a fraction of a second. You've just used stop-down metering. take a picture. it should be exposed properly Christian - Original Message - From: Tom Lesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 4:59 PM Subject: Re: version 1.1 Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. I've just installed v1.1 and have tried several A lenses in off A apertures and when I press the green button in Manual, all I get is a flashing Av-- in the LCD panel. In fact, I get the flashing Av-- whether the mode is set to P, Tv, Av, M or B. Any help out there? Yes, the upgrade installation appears to have been successful ... when I hold down the Menu button and switch the camera ON, its says Version 1.1. Thanks. Tom Lesser
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That is probably normal. What should change is shutter speed. Bill - Original Message - From: Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 5:04 PM Subject: Re: version 1.1 I assume the update is only for MSMC-M and SMC lenses, not for A If you want to use the lens off the A position, you need to set that in the menu. AT least in V1.00, I assume that didn't change. On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 22:59, Tom Lesser wrote: Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. I've just installed v1.1 and have tried several A lenses in off A apertures and when I press the green button in Manual, all I get is a flashing Av-- in the LCD panel. In fact, I get the flashing Av-- whether the mode is set to P, Tv, Av, M or B. Any help out there? Yes, the upgrade installation appears to have been successful ... when I hold down the Menu button and switch the camera ON, its says Version 1.1. Thanks. Tom Lesser -- Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks Bill, After reading the initial release (and being totally unfamiliar with the *istD) i was wonder4ing if this change would improve K lens compatability. This is very good news and may cause me to rethink the *istD. On Jan 8, 2004, at 10:59 PM, William Robb wrote: Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. EV comp im manual is a nice touch. The ist D camera just got a whole lot better. William Robb
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If an M lens works, a K lens will work. On Jan 8, 2004, at 11:19 PM, Bill Owens wrote: It says M lenses, doesn't mention K.
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- Original Message - From: Tom Lesser Subject: Re: version 1.1 Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. I've just installed v1.1 and have tried several A lenses in off A apertures and when I press the green button in Manual, all I get is a flashing Av-- in the LCD panel. In fact, I get the flashing Av-- whether the mode is set to P, Tv, Av, M or B. Any help out there? Have you got the custom function set to allow shutter release with the lens off A? The upgrade allows any lens to be used off the A position, no matter what series it is. William Robb
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So the prices of K/M lenses on eBay will surge once again? vbg Pentax must receive enormous amount of complaints to make such decision. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. EV comp im manual is a nice touch. The ist D camera just got a whole lot better. William Robb _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
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Bill said (among other things): It says M lenses, doesn't mention K. I think when Pentax uses this language: ... SMC Pentax or SMC Pentax-M lenses that do not have an A position on the aperture ring the term SMC Pentax means the same lenses you mean by the term K. That would seem consistent with the way they've referred to those lenses before. The K and M lenses work the same way, don't they?
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Works just the same on K lenses... stan Bill Owens wrote: It says M lenses, doesn't mention K. It's basically aperture priority with the added step of pressing the green button. When it's pressed, the lens stops down to the selected aperture, the shutter speed is selected, and the lens opens back up. Pressing the shutter release then takes the photo at the selected settings. I now no longer have to use an external meter with my M lens, and get center weighted metering from the camera. Bill - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 11:11 PM Subject: Re: version 1.1 Just for clarification: does this upgrade mean that K and M lenses are useable in aperture priority mode, or stopped down? William Robb wrote: Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. EV comp im manual is a nice touch. The ist D camera just got a whole lot better. William Robb
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Sounds like K to me. Anyway, is there anything different between the way the K and the M lenses work that might cause the istD to reject one and not the other? Not that I know of, but I'm not an expert, quite the opposite This is pretty good news indeed ;-)) Yes indeed, makes my M macro, Vivitar Series 1 70-210 3.5 (hey, only 1/2 stop slower that an 80-200 2.8 and a lot less expensive!), and Zenit 16mm fisheye all compatible Bill
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Now I'm disappointed that I sold my 16mm Zenit ;- Yes indeed, makes my M macro, Vivitar Series 1 70-210 3.5 (hey, only 1/2 stop slower that an 80-200 2.8 and a lot less expensive!), and Zenit 16mm fisheye all compatible
16mm Zenit, was Re: version 1.1
Shel, to make you even sadder, since the ist D only uses the center of the image circle, the distortion is considerably reduced. It's still obvious, but not quite as severe. Bill - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 11:44 PM Subject: Re: version 1.1 Now I'm disappointed that I sold my 16mm Zenit ;- Yes indeed, makes my M macro, Vivitar Series 1 70-210 3.5 (hey, only 1/2 stop slower that an 80-200 2.8 and a lot less expensive!), and Zenit 16mm fisheye all compatible
Re: version 1.1
I now no longer have to use an external meter with my M lens, and get center weighted metering from the camera. Bill Or even matrix metering with Mark Roberts' low-cost mount modification or Michel Carrere-Gee do-it-yourself Kapton taping. Especially nice for wide-angles. Andre
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The release mentions HyperManual mode, but doesn't specify aperture priority. If I stop an M or K lens down and press the green button, will this give a correct shutter speed in both manual and aperture priority modes? If it works for aperture priority, will the shutter speed vary with the light, or do I need to press the green button each time I want to meter the scene? chris On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Bill Owens wrote: It says M lenses, doesn't mention K. It's basically aperture priority with the added step of pressing the green button. When it's pressed, the lens stops down to the selected aperture, the shutter speed is selected, and the lens opens back up. Pressing the shutter release then takes the photo at the selected settings. I now no longer have to use an external meter with my M lens, and get center weighted metering from the camera. Bill - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 11:11 PM Subject: Re: version 1.1 Just for clarification: does this upgrade mean that K and M lenses are useable in aperture priority mode, or stopped down? William Robb wrote: Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. EV comp im manual is a nice touch. The ist D camera just got a whole lot better. William Robb
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Hi! WR Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. WR Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the WR green button will give the correct shutter speed. WR EV comp im manual is a nice touch. WR The ist D camera just got a whole lot better. WR William Robb Anyone willing to loan me $1500? VBG Now, I think I would buy an *istD on sight if I had the green. Excellent news... Boris
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It only works in manual mode with basically aperture priority. Set the aperture, press the green button and you've got the correct shutter speed for center weighted metering (matrix is not available except on A lenses. As long as the light is constant, the setting is fine, but does not automatically change if the light does. In that case, press the green button again. It takes less than 1 second for the camera to compute the correct shutter speed. Bill - Original Message - From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 12:14 AM Subject: Re: version 1.1 The release mentions HyperManual mode, but doesn't specify aperture priority. If I stop an M or K lens down and press the green button, will this give a correct shutter speed in both manual and aperture priority modes? If it works for aperture priority, will the shutter speed vary with the light, or do I need to press the green button each time I want to meter the scene? chris On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Bill Owens wrote: It says M lenses, doesn't mention K. It's basically aperture priority with the added step of pressing the green button. When it's pressed, the lens stops down to the selected aperture, the shutter speed is selected, and the lens opens back up. Pressing the shutter release then takes the photo at the selected settings. I now no longer have to use an external meter with my M lens, and get center weighted metering from the camera. Bill - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 11:11 PM Subject: Re: version 1.1 Just for clarification: does this upgrade mean that K and M lenses are useable in aperture priority mode, or stopped down? William Robb wrote: Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. EV comp im manual is a nice touch. The ist D camera just got a whole lot better. William Robb
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Glad I stuck it out. Pentax heard the complaints and did something to correct it. Jim A. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 21:59:57 -0600 To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: version 1.1 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 22:59:56 -0500 Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. EV comp im manual is a nice touch. The ist D camera just got a whole lot better. William Robb
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Also note: 1. You can turn the camera off, turn it back on, and the previous setting is still there. Just like as though it were a manual camera! It stays there until you press the green button again or change the lens. 2. You can adjust the aperture (using the oldfashioned ring around the base of the lens) and the setting stays the same. Until you hit the green button. 3. You can activate the DOF lever and then twirl either the Tv or the Av dial. And the new settings stay the same until you hit the green button. It will be interesting to see how this interacts with the 330 external flash... You may have noticed my grumbling about the poorly designed grip the other day. Add another grumble: the vertical grip does not have a green button... Stan - Bill Owens wrote: It only works in manual mode with basically aperture priority. Set the aperture, press the green button and you've got the correct shutter speed for center weighted metering (matrix is not available except on A lenses. As long as the light is constant, the setting is fine, but does not automatically change if the light does. In that case, press the green button again. It takes less than 1 second for the camera to compute the correct shutter speed. Bill - Original Message - From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 12:14 AM Subject: Re: version 1.1 The release mentions HyperManual mode, but doesn't specify aperture priority. If I stop an M or K lens down and press the green button, will this give a correct shutter speed in both manual and aperture priority modes? If it works for aperture priority, will the shutter speed vary with the light, or do I need to press the green button each time I want to meter the scene? chris On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Bill Owens wrote: It says M lenses, doesn't mention K. It's basically aperture priority with the added step of pressing the green button. When it's pressed, the lens stops down to the selected aperture, the shutter speed is selected, and the lens opens back up. Pressing the shutter release then takes the photo at the selected settings. I now no longer have to use an external meter with my M lens, and get center weighted metering from the camera. Bill - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 11:11 PM Subject: Re: version 1.1 Just for clarification: does this upgrade mean that K and M lenses are useable in aperture priority mode, or stopped down? William Robb wrote: Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. Now, with the lens off A, putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the correct shutter speed. EV comp im manual is a nice touch. The ist D camera just got a whole lot better. William Robb
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One of you guys with a 300baud modem is draging the Pentax site down and I cant download! Can someone send me the EXE file directly? Please
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Sorry - I got the Mac version... stan Tiger Moses wrote: One of you guys with a 300baud modem is draging the Pentax site down and I cant download! Can someone send me the EXE file directly? Please
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I now no longer have to use an external meter with my M lens, and get center weighted metering from the camera. Or even matrix metering with Mark Roberts' low-cost mount modification or Michel Carrere-Gee do-it-yourself Kapton taping. That would be great. Has anyone actually tried this now (with v.1.1)? Fred
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Seems to work fine. Bill - Original Message - From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 1:30 AM Subject: Re: version 1.1 I now no longer have to use an external meter with my M lens, and get center weighted metering from the camera. Or even matrix metering with Mark Roberts' low-cost mount modification or Michel Carrere-Gee do-it-yourself Kapton taping. That would be great. Has anyone actually tried this now (with v.1.1)? Fred
