Re: SPESO: "What is it"

[John Francis]

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 03:17:51PM -0400, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
> 
> Fun fact: "Kiska" in Russian means "kitty".
> Also, it is a vulgar/slang word for female genital.

So, basically, "pussy" ?


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Re: SPESO: "What is it"

[Larry Colen]

> On Jul 29, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> It's basically a pun on French for the phrase "what is it?"
>> 
>> Quis que c'est.
> 
> Qu’est-ce que c’est?

So you c'est.


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Re: SPESO: "What is it"

[Bob Pdml]

> 
> It's basically a pun on French for the phrase "what is it?"
> 
> Quis que c'est.

Qu’est-ce que c’est?


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Re: SPESO: "What is it"

[Larry Colen]

> On Jul 29, 2020, at 12:17 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Just in case (you might have googled it already): It is a Seattle-based crab 
> fisshing vessel.
> http://www.kiskasea.com
> https://www.facebook.com/FVKiskaSea/
> I am curious how they came up with that name.

It's basically a pun on French for the phrase "what is it?"

Quis que c'est.


> 
> 
> 
> Fun fact: "Kiska" in Russian means "kitty".
> It is also used as an endearment to kids and women (in the 3rd or 2nd person).
> Also, it is a vulgar/slang word for female genital.

Interesting, there could be multiple levels of puns going on.


> 
> I've just found that in Hindi, "kiska" means "whose":
> https://www.quora.com/What-does-kiska-mean-in-Hindi
> 
> 
> So, Larry, maybe you should've asked "Whose it is?" ;-)
> 
> 
> Igor
> 
> PS. An old real story told by one of the participants:
> There was some cultural event (on a ship cruise, if I remember correctly) 
> with youths from the UK and Russia. Someone's cat ran away and was hiding. 
> People from England started calling the cat: "Pss! Pss!"
> Russians were laughing: that's what they tell a toddler sitting on a potty to 
> initiate the process.
> Then Russians started helping, calling the cat, now with the Brits' turn to 
> laugh, as the calling sound was "Kis-kis-kiss!"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Larry Colen Mon, 27 Jul 2020 21:40:22 -0700 wrote:
> 
> Silly Photo Every So Often
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50161505156/in/album-72157715266804887/
> 
> 
> 
> No particular photographic merit, it just amused me.  Comments and wordplay 
> are welcome.
> 
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SPESO: "What is it"

[Igor PDML-StR]

Just in case (you might have googled it already): It is a Seattle-based 
crab fisshing vessel.

http://www.kiskasea.com
https://www.facebook.com/FVKiskaSea/
I am curious how they came up with that name.



Fun fact: "Kiska" in Russian means "kitty".
It is also used as an endearment to kids and women (in the 3rd or 2nd 
person).

Also, it is a vulgar/slang word for female genital.

I've just found that in Hindi, "kiska" means "whose":
https://www.quora.com/What-does-kiska-mean-in-Hindi


So, Larry, maybe you should've asked "Whose it is?" ;-)


Igor

PS. An old real story told by one of the participants:
There was some cultural event (on a ship cruise, if I remember correctly) 
with youths from the UK and Russia. Someone's cat ran away and was 
hiding. People from England started calling the cat: "Pss! Pss!"
Russians were laughing: that's what they tell a toddler sitting on a potty 
to initiate the process.
Then Russians started helping, calling the cat, now with the Brits' 
turn to laugh, as the calling sound was "Kis-kis-kiss!"





Larry Colen Mon, 27 Jul 2020 21:40:22 -0700 wrote:

Silly Photo Every So Often

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50161505156/in/album-72157715266804887/



No particular photographic merit, it just amused me.  Comments and 
wordplay are welcome.




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Re: SPESO: "What is it"

[Daniel J. Matyola]

If one lisps, that boat becomes a bloody sausage!

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On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 12:39 AM Larry Colen  wrote:

> Silly Photo Every So Often
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50161505156/in/album-72157715266804887/
>
>
> No particular photographic merit, it just amused me.  Comments and
> wordplay are welcome.
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Re: SPESO: "What is it"

[Daniel J. Matyola]

If you see any Japanese ships in the area, they will probably try to occupy
the boat.

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On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 12:39 AM Larry Colen  wrote:

> Silly Photo Every So Often
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50161505156/in/album-72157715266804887/
>
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> No particular photographic merit, it just amused me.  Comments and
> wordplay are welcome.
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Re: SPESO: "What is it"

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is a ratty little boat.
(pun intended.)

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On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 12:39 AM Larry Colen  wrote:

> Silly Photo Every So Often
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50161505156/in/album-72157715266804887/
>
>
> No particular photographic merit, it just amused me.  Comments and
> wordplay are welcome.
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Re: SPESO: "What is it"

[mike wilson]

Ce n'est pas une pipe.
René.

> On 28 July 2020 at 05:38 Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> Silly Photo Every So Often
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50161505156/in/album-72157715266804887/
> 
> 
> No particular photographic merit, it just amused me.  Comments and wordplay 
> are welcome.

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Re: SPESO: "What is it"

[Bob Pdml]

> 
> , at 05:39, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> Silly Photo Every So Often
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50161505156/in/album-72157715266804887/
> 
> 
> No particular photographic merit, it just amused me.  Comments and wordplay 
> are welcome.

A similar etymological tidbit, trinket or Scrabblist’s delicacy is the almost 
forgotten English word, kickshaws. 
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SPESO: "What is it"

[Larry Colen]

Silly Photo Every So Often

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50161505156/in/album-72157715266804887/


No particular photographic merit, it just amused me.  Comments and wordplay are 
welcome.



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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[John]

On 7/27/2020 05:28:55, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 26/7/20, Henk Terhell, discombobulated, unleashed:

A flip out screen is extremely useful in taking pictures of flowers and 
mushrooms or critters close to the ground. Also for landscapes when on a 
tripod. For me this is one of the most valued features of my K-1.


I also value a flip-out screen. But on top of that I prefer a fully
articulating screen that flips out, then can rotate in both directions, and
even fully close again with the screen facing inwards and not visible at all.
I have it on an Olympus Pen F and love it. So much so that I'm considering an
OM-D EM-1 mark II camera as another body with the same feature. (The original
OM-D EM-1 just has a flip-up screen.)

I'm really enjoying the M43 concept. I can easily get my head around the
lenses and their angle of acceptance, and there's some big bonuses,
particular at the long end. My A*85/1.4 is awesome on M43 and with the 5 axis
IS, is so usable handheld.

Actually I don't have any Oly lenses. The A*85 is joined by a 24/2.8 and a
50/1.4 - love using these lenses - they all have adapters on them for easy
swapping out.

The other two are Samyang 12/2 and Voigtlander 15/4.5

Enjoying the mirrorless life!




I really like the way the flip-out screen on the K-1 works.

I rarely use Live View, but the few times I have used it the articulating screen 
on the K-1 has been a treat. I'm also impressed by how sturdy it is.


I thought I had all the lenses I was ever going to want after scoring the 
FA600/4, but somehow the D FA 85/1.4 has managed to insinuate itself into my 
Christmas wish list.


Too bad I'm too poor to have Christmas in July.


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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Paul Stenquist]

I frequently use the K-1’s articulated screen. All magazine art directors want 
the long lens ground level front 3/4 shot of race cars, exotics and muscle 
cars. With the flip up screen I no longer have to get down on the ground, a 
maneuver that grows more difficult with every passing year.

Paul

> On Jul 27, 2020, at 10:01 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> I also own a Ref Con A , but it is of no value for shooting small flowers or 
> mushrooms with the camera near the ground unless you lay down.
> Last time I used this angle viewer,  the plastic holder of the glass of the 
> viewfinder of my MZ-S was damaged so since then  I never take off the rubber 
> protection piece.
> Many times for mushrooms I either use a bean bag or a wooden plate with an 
> Arca-Swiss clamp screwed on top, so the viewfinder is too low.
> 
> Henk
> 
>  Op 2020-07-26 om 23:56 schreef Ken Waller:
>> When I need that feature on my dslr I have a Ref Con A, which I seldom use 
>> and a tall enough tripod so I don’t have to stoop over.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: Henk Terhell 
>>> Subject: Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new 
>>> APS-C flagship
>>> 
>>> A flip out screen is extremely useful in taking pictures of flowers and
>>> mushrooms or critters close to the ground. Also for landscapes when on a
>>> tripod.
>>> For me this is one of the most valued features of my K-1.
>>> 
>>> Henk
>>> 
>>> Op 2020-07-23 om 18:07 schreef Ken Waller:
>>>> I have a Nikon Coolpix camera with a flip out/up view screen, and while 
>>>> I’ve used the feature a few times it would not be a deal killer if a 
>>>> camera I was interested in didn’t have the feature.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: "P. J. Alling" 
>>>>> Subject: Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new 
>>>>> APS-C flagship
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know, I think I'd buy it, a flippy screen is just something else
>>>>> to break, though I can see it's usefulness in some circumstances.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The new Prism looks like it could be duplicated by just using a O-ME53
>>>>> which I've been using since I got my *ist-Ds.  It's not perfect but it
>>>>> does give a view pretty close to an LX with a standard prism finder.
>>>>> Probably not the highest viewfinder magnification, but good enough.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm just glad that they haven't abandoned the high end APS-C DSLR segment.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/22/2020 10:18 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:
>>>>>> The button on the back on the left side above the panel shows no
>>>>>> symbol or text.
>>>>>> Perhaps it is attached to a spring for the panel to open.
>>>>>> Selling a new top camera with a fixed panel will be a mission impossible.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Henk
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Op 2020-07-22 om 15:16 schreef Pete McIntosh:
>>>>>>> At 20:21 in the 2nd video there's a good shot of the back. The LCD
>>>>>>> looks (to me) to be fixed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ciao,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Pete Mac in Melbourne
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Henk Terhell]

I also own a Ref Con A , but it is of no value for shooting small 
flowers or mushrooms with the camera near the ground unless you lay down.
Last time I used this angle viewer,  the plastic holder of the glass of 
the viewfinder of my MZ-S was damaged so since then  I never take off 
the rubber protection piece.
Many times for mushrooms I either use a bean bag or a wooden plate with 
an Arca-Swiss clamp screwed on top, so the viewfinder is too low.


Henk

 Op 2020-07-26 om 23:56 schreef Ken Waller:

When I need that feature on my dslr I have a Ref Con A, which I seldom use and 
a tall enough tripod so I don’t have to stoop over.


-Original Message-

From: Henk Terhell 
Subject: Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C 
flagship

A flip out screen is extremely useful in taking pictures of flowers and
mushrooms or critters close to the ground. Also for landscapes when on a
tripod.
For me this is one of the most valued features of my K-1.

Henk

Op 2020-07-23 om 18:07 schreef Ken Waller:

I have a Nikon Coolpix camera with a flip out/up view screen, and while I’ve 
used the feature a few times it would not be a deal killer if a camera I was 
interested in didn’t have the feature.


-Original Message-

From: "P. J. Alling" 
Subject: Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C 
flagship

I don't know, I think I'd buy it, a flippy screen is just something else
to break, though I can see it's usefulness in some circumstances.

The new Prism looks like it could be duplicated by just using a O-ME53
which I've been using since I got my *ist-Ds.  It's not perfect but it
does give a view pretty close to an LX with a standard prism finder.
Probably not the highest viewfinder magnification, but good enough.

I'm just glad that they haven't abandoned the high end APS-C DSLR segment.

On 7/22/2020 10:18 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

The button on the back on the left side above the panel shows no
symbol or text.
Perhaps it is attached to a spring for the panel to open.
Selling a new top camera with a fixed panel will be a mission impossible.

Henk

Op 2020-07-22 om 15:16 schreef Pete McIntosh:

At 20:21 in the 2nd video there's a good shot of the back. The LCD
looks (to me) to be fixed.

Ciao,

Pete Mac in Melbourne



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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Henk Terhell]

I wouldn't mind mirrorless with its inherent light weight, but with all 
my Pentax lenses I'm hesitant to change brands.
And it is so useful now to be able to switch lenses of FF and APS-C in 
the Pentax system without any converters.
The K-1 is a perfect camera but not for carrying on long walks if 
combined with a tele.
As a walk-around camera I much like my K-5 with a small lens as the DA 
21/3.2,  but the fixed back screen is sometimes a handicap.
A compact APS-C with improved sensor and flip-out screen would therefore 
be on my wish list for Santa Claus.
In fact both K-70 and KP are good choices and we haven't seen yet what 
the new flagship has more to offer than a better prisma and two card slots.


Henk

Op 2020-07-27 om 11:28 schreef Steve Cottrell:

On 26/7/20, Henk Terhell, discombobulated, unleashed:


A flip out screen is extremely useful in taking pictures of flowers and
mushrooms or critters close to the ground. Also for landscapes when on a
tripod.
For me this is one of the most valued features of my K-1.

I also value a flip-out screen. But on top of that I prefer a fully 
articulating screen that flips out, then can rotate in both directions, and 
even fully close again with the screen facing inwards and not visible at all. I 
have it on an Olympus Pen F and love it. So much so that I'm considering an 
OM-D EM-1 mark II camera as another body with the same feature. (The original 
OM-D EM-1 just has a flip-up screen.)

I'm really enjoying the M43 concept. I can easily get my head around the lenses 
and their angle of acceptance, and there's some big bonuses, particular at the 
long end. My A*85/1.4 is awesome on M43 and with the 5 axis IS, is so usable 
handheld.

Actually I don't have any Oly lenses. The A*85 is joined by a 24/2.8 and a 
50/1.4 - love using these lenses - they all have adapters on them for easy 
swapping out.

The other two are Samyang 12/2 and Voigtlander 15/4.5

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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 27.07.20 um 11:28 schrieb Steve Cottrell:


I also value a flip-out screen.


What's the general consensus on the longevity of flip-out screens on
cameras? I suppose that the flexible conductors used to connect them
will break sooner or later, much like they do in other articulated parts
of laptop computers, hifi equipment etc.

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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Steve Cottrell]

On 26/7/20, Henk Terhell, discombobulated, unleashed:

>A flip out screen is extremely useful in taking pictures of flowers and 
>mushrooms or critters close to the ground. Also for landscapes when on a 
>tripod.
>For me this is one of the most valued features of my K-1.

I also value a flip-out screen. But on top of that I prefer a fully 
articulating screen that flips out, then can rotate in both directions, and 
even fully close again with the screen facing inwards and not visible at all. I 
have it on an Olympus Pen F and love it. So much so that I'm considering an 
OM-D EM-1 mark II camera as another body with the same feature. (The original 
OM-D EM-1 just has a flip-up screen.)

I'm really enjoying the M43 concept. I can easily get my head around the lenses 
and their angle of acceptance, and there's some big bonuses, particular at the 
long end. My A*85/1.4 is awesome on M43 and with the 5 axis IS, is so usable 
handheld.

Actually I don't have any Oly lenses. The A*85 is joined by a 24/2.8 and a 
50/1.4 - love using these lenses - they all have adapters on them for easy 
swapping out.

The other two are Samyang 12/2 and Voigtlander 15/4.5

Enjoying the mirrorless life!


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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Ken Waller]

When I need that feature on my dslr I have a Ref Con A, which I seldom use and 
a tall enough tripod so I don’t have to stoop over.


-Original Message-
>From: Henk Terhell 
>Subject: Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new 
>APS-C flagship
>
>A flip out screen is extremely useful in taking pictures of flowers and 
>mushrooms or critters close to the ground. Also for landscapes when on a 
>tripod.
>For me this is one of the most valued features of my K-1.
>
>Henk
>
>Op 2020-07-23 om 18:07 schreef Ken Waller:
>> I have a Nikon Coolpix camera with a flip out/up view screen, and while I’ve 
>> used the feature a few times it would not be a deal killer if a camera I was 
>> interested in didn’t have the feature.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: "P. J. Alling" 
>>> Subject: Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new 
>>> APS-C flagship
>>>
>>> I don't know, I think I'd buy it, a flippy screen is just something else
>>> to break, though I can see it's usefulness in some circumstances.
>>>
>>> The new Prism looks like it could be duplicated by just using a O-ME53
>>> which I've been using since I got my *ist-Ds.  It's not perfect but it
>>> does give a view pretty close to an LX with a standard prism finder.
>>> Probably not the highest viewfinder magnification, but good enough.
>>>
>>> I'm just glad that they haven't abandoned the high end APS-C DSLR segment.
>>>
>>> On 7/22/2020 10:18 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:
>>>> The button on the back on the left side above the panel shows no
>>>> symbol or text.
>>>> Perhaps it is attached to a spring for the panel to open.
>>>> Selling a new top camera with a fixed panel will be a mission impossible.
>>>>
>>>> Henk
>>>>
>>>> Op 2020-07-22 om 15:16 schreef Pete McIntosh:
>>>>>
>>>>> At 20:21 in the 2nd video there's a good shot of the back. The LCD
>>>>> looks (to me) to be fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ciao,
>>>>>
>>>>> Pete Mac in Melbourne
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Henk Terhell]

A flip out screen is extremely useful in taking pictures of flowers and 
mushrooms or critters close to the ground. Also for landscapes when on a 
tripod.

For me this is one of the most valued features of my K-1.

Henk

Op 2020-07-23 om 18:07 schreef Ken Waller:

I have a Nikon Coolpix camera with a flip out/up view screen, and while I’ve 
used the feature a few times it would not be a deal killer if a camera I was 
interested in didn’t have the feature.


-Original Message-

From: "P. J. Alling" 
Subject: Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C 
flagship

I don't know, I think I'd buy it, a flippy screen is just something else
to break, though I can see it's usefulness in some circumstances.

The new Prism looks like it could be duplicated by just using a O-ME53
which I've been using since I got my *ist-Ds.  It's not perfect but it
does give a view pretty close to an LX with a standard prism finder.
Probably not the highest viewfinder magnification, but good enough.

I'm just glad that they haven't abandoned the high end APS-C DSLR segment.

On 7/22/2020 10:18 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

The button on the back on the left side above the panel shows no
symbol or text.
Perhaps it is attached to a spring for the panel to open.
Selling a new top camera with a fixed panel will be a mission impossible.

Henk

Op 2020-07-22 om 15:16 schreef Pete McIntosh:


At 20:21 in the 2nd video there's a good shot of the back. The LCD
looks (to me) to be fixed.

Ciao,

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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Ken Waller]

I have a Nikon Coolpix camera with a flip out/up view screen, and while I’ve 
used the feature a few times it would not be a deal killer if a camera I was 
interested in didn’t have the feature.


-Original Message-
>From: "P. J. Alling" 
>Subject: Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new 
>APS-C flagship
>
>I don't know, I think I'd buy it, a flippy screen is just something else 
>to break, though I can see it's usefulness in some circumstances.
>
>The new Prism looks like it could be duplicated by just using a O-ME53 
>which I've been using since I got my *ist-Ds.  It's not perfect but it 
>does give a view pretty close to an LX with a standard prism finder.  
>Probably not the highest viewfinder magnification, but good enough.
>
>I'm just glad that they haven't abandoned the high end APS-C DSLR segment.
>
>On 7/22/2020 10:18 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:
>> The button on the back on the left side above the panel shows no 
>> symbol or text.
>> Perhaps it is attached to a spring for the panel to open.
>> Selling a new top camera with a fixed panel will be a mission impossible.
>>
>> Henk
>>
>> Op 2020-07-22 om 15:16 schreef Pete McIntosh:
>>>
>>>
>>> At 20:21 in the 2nd video there's a good shot of the back. The LCD 
>>> looks (to me) to be fixed.
>>>
>>> Ciao,
>>>
>>> Pete Mac in Melbourne
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[P. J. Alling]

I don't know, I think I'd buy it, a flippy screen is just something else 
to break, though I can see it's usefulness in some circumstances.


The new Prism looks like it could be duplicated by just using a O-ME53 
which I've been using since I got my *ist-Ds.  It's not perfect but it 
does give a view pretty close to an LX with a standard prism finder.  
Probably not the highest viewfinder magnification, but good enough.


I'm just glad that they haven't abandoned the high end APS-C DSLR segment.

On 7/22/2020 10:18 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:
The button on the back on the left side above the panel shows no 
symbol or text.

Perhaps it is attached to a spring for the panel to open.
Selling a new top camera with a fixed panel will be a mission impossible.

Henk

Op 2020-07-22 om 15:16 schreef Pete McIntosh:



At 20:21 in the 2nd video there's a good shot of the back. The LCD 
looks (to me) to be fixed.


Ciao,

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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Henk Terhell]

The button on the back on the left side above the panel shows no symbol 
or text.

Perhaps it is attached to a spring for the panel to open.
Selling a new top camera with a fixed panel will be a mission impossible.

Henk

Op 2020-07-22 om 15:16 schreef Pete McIntosh:



At 20:21 in the 2nd video there's a good shot of the back. The LCD 
looks (to me) to be fixed.


Ciao,

Pete Mac in Melbourne





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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Pete McIntosh]

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Sent: 22/07/20 20:50:28
Subject: Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on 
new APS-C flagship



There is a follow-up video from Ricoh/Pentax.
The new APS-C is claimed to have a new penta-prism, improved grip, new shutter, 
better image quality and also a silver model (also for star lenses and K-1 mark 
II)
No details on date of introduction.
I still have no clue on whether the back LCD panel is fixed or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4k0yKDJPg0

Henk




At 20:21 in the 2nd video there's a good shot of the back. The LCD looks 
(to me) to be fixed.


Ciao,

Pete Mac in Melbourne


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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 22.07.20 um 14:36 schrieb Henk Terhell:

Yes, and no doubt he will rush with the money to the camerashop ordering
the new silver flagship:)


They've forgotten the 10 steak knives.

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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Henk Terhell]

Yes, and no doubt he will rush with the money to the camerashop ordering 
the new silver flagship:)


Henk

Op 2020-07-22 om 14:12 schreef Paul Stenquist:

The guy wearing the pink pants must be getting a paycheck!

Paul


On Jul 22, 2020, at 6:51 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:

There is a follow-up video from Ricoh/Pentax.
The new APS-C is claimed to have a new penta-prism, improved grip, 
new shutter, better image quality and also a silver model (also for 
star lenses and K-1 mark II)

No details on date of introduction.
I still have no clue on whether the back LCD panel is fixed or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4k0yKDJPg0

Henk

Op 2020-07-16 om 19:54 schreef Henk Terhell:

Today on YouTube:

https://youtu.be/-tOfTmF7ahs

Henk







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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Paul Stenquist]

The guy wearing the pink pants must be getting a paycheck!

Paul

> On Jul 22, 2020, at 6:51 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> There is a follow-up video from Ricoh/Pentax.
> The new APS-C is claimed to have a new penta-prism, improved grip, new 
> shutter, better image quality and also a silver model (also for star lenses 
> and K-1 mark II)
> No details on date of introduction.
> I still have no clue on whether the back LCD panel is fixed or not.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4k0yKDJPg0
> 
> Henk
> 
> Op 2020-07-16 om 19:54 schreef Henk Terhell:
>> Today on YouTube:
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/-tOfTmF7ahs
>> 
>> Henk
>> 
> 
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Re: What PENTAX Values Most in Future Cameras - more info on new APS-C flagship

[Henk Terhell]

There is a follow-up video from Ricoh/Pentax.
The new APS-C is claimed to have a new penta-prism, improved grip, new 
shutter, better image quality and also a silver model (also for star 
lenses and K-1 mark II)

No details on date of introduction.
I still have no clue on whether the back LCD panel is fixed or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4k0yKDJPg0

Henk

Op 2020-07-16 om 19:54 schreef Henk Terhell:

Today on YouTube:

https://youtu.be/-tOfTmF7ahs

Henk




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Today on YouTube:

https://youtu.be/-tOfTmF7ahs

Henk

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Re: What to do with your camera during a lockdown

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Thanks Mark

> On 30 Mar 2020, at 03:42, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Bob Pdml wrote:
> 
>> Here’s a lugubrious diptych taken yesterday:
>> 
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/B-T4bHbgn3_/?igshid=blpk6588p8i1
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> Saw that on Instagram. It's fantastic.
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Re: What to do with your camera during a lockdown

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Bob Pdml wrote:

>Here’s a lugubrious diptych taken yesterday:
>
>https://www.instagram.com/p/B-T4bHbgn3_/?igshid=blpk6588p8i1

Saw that on Instagram. It's fantastic.
 
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Re: What to do with your camera during a lockdown

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Interesting, but the "art" on the wall is damn ugly.

Dan Matyola
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> Here’s a lugubrious diptych taken yesterday:
>
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B-T4bHbgn3_/?igshid=blpk6588p8i1
>
> B
>
> > On 29 Mar 2020, at 08:40, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, and thanks to everyone else.
> >
> >> On 29 Mar 2020, at 05:33, David Mann  wrote:
> >>
> >> Love it.  The Magnum stuff is amazing.  Maybe I should try something
> but I'm most likely to just get my daughter's "camera face".
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Dave
> >>
>  On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:19 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Here’s the Magnum link:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.instagram.com/p/B-P4AMbn7z_/?igshid=1ow17exuboo74
> >>>
> >>> And one from me, taken yesterday when I was returning from the
> supermarket:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.instagram.com/p/B-RZ9--ARp5/?igshid=1fuxf1br0kdcx
> >>
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Re: What to do with your camera during a lockdown

[John]

On 3/28/2020 05:19:45, Bob Pdml wrote:

On 28 Mar 2020, at 08:32, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:

Am 28.03.20 um 09:04 schrieb Bob Pdml:


Magnum photographers are posting their 'lockdown diaries' to Instagram.


Thanks for the link, Bob.

You might want to put such contributions into a thread of their own. I'd
almost missed it. Not everyone is still following the endless discussion
if an idiot should be called an idiot. :-)

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https://www.instagram.com/p/B-RZ9--ARp5/?igshid=1fuxf1br0kdcx



My dad used to joke with my mom she should get a gun and hold it on him to make 
him drink his coffee in the morning


... and then he'd hold it on her to return the favor.

But that "gun" looks like it might just do the trick.

PS: We never had any guns in our house. I don't even remember having any toy 
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Re: What to do with your camera during a lockdown

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Yes! All three are lovely. 
I particularly like the third photo .. just her red-clad legs and feet. It 
distances me from the literal and pulls my mind into more abstractive ideas.

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> On Mar 29, 2020, at 7:08 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Paul.
> 
> This morning I cycled to the other side of the river to have a cup of tea (I 
> brought my own) at a safe distance from an Italian friend who has been 
> feeling extremely anxious about all this and barely going out.
> 
> https://adobe.ly/2UoTMgG
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Re: What to do with your camera during a lockdown

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Thanks!

> On 29 Mar 2020, at 15:22, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
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> Yes! All three are lovely. 
> I particularly like the third photo .. just her red-clad legs and feet. It 
> distances me from the literal and pulls my mind into more abstractive ideas.
> 
> G
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> 
>> On Mar 29, 2020, at 7:08 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Paul.
>> 
>> This morning I cycled to the other side of the river to have a cup of tea (I 
>> brought my own) at a safe distance from an Italian friend who has been 
>> feeling extremely anxious about all this and barely going out.
>> 
>> https://adobe.ly/2UoTMgG
>> 
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Re: What to do with your camera during a lockdown

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> On 29 Mar 2020, at 15:20, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
>> 
>> https://adobe.ly/2UoTMgG
> 
> 
> There's a German saying:
> 
> Kopf kuehl und Füße warm
> macht den besten Doktor arm.
> 
> Literally:
> Cool head and warm feet
> make the best doctor poor.
> 
> Your Italian friend appears to believe in the opposite. :-

Her father was a doctor, which perhaps explains it!

She is also a doctor, but not of the medical variety.




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Re: What to do with your camera during a lockdown

[Rick Womer]

Lugubrious? That means “mournful.” 

Your mood may be lugubrious but the shot is certainly not.

Rick

> On Mar 29, 2020, at 4:23 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> Here’s a lugubrious diptych taken yesterday:
> 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B-T4bHbgn3_/?igshid=blpk6588p8i1
> 
> B
> 
>> On 29 Mar 2020, at 08:40, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, and thanks to everyone else.
>> 
>>> On 29 Mar 2020, at 05:33, David Mann  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Love it.  The Magnum stuff is amazing.  Maybe I should try something but 
>>> I'm most likely to just get my daughter's "camera face".
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dave
>>> 
> On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:19 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
 
 Here’s the Magnum link:
 
 https://www.instagram.com/p/B-P4AMbn7z_/?igshid=1ow17exuboo74
 
 And one from me, taken yesterday when I was returning from the supermarket:
 
 https://www.instagram.com/p/B-RZ9--ARp5/?igshid=1fuxf1br0kdcx
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Re: What to do with your camera during a lockdown

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 29.03.20 um 16:08 schrieb Bob Pdml:


This morning I cycled to the other side of the river to have a cup of tea (I 
brought my own) at a safe distance from an Italian friend who has been feeling 
extremely anxious about all this and barely going out.

https://adobe.ly/2UoTMgG



There's a German saying:

Kopf kuehl und Füße warm
macht den besten Doktor arm.

Literally:
Cool head and warm feet
make the best doctor poor.

Your Italian friend appears to believe in the opposite. :-)

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Re: What to do with your camera during a lockdown

[Bob Pdml]

Thanks Paul.

This morning I cycled to the other side of the river to have a cup of tea (I 
brought my own) at a safe distance from an Italian friend who has been feeling 
extremely anxious about all this and barely going out.

https://adobe.ly/2UoTMgG



> On 29 Mar 2020, at 13:55, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Nice. I like the position of the primate in frame one. Hope to get out in my 
> backyard today. That’s as far as I’ll venture.
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2020, at 4:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> Here’s a lugubrious diptych taken yesterday:
>> 
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/B-T4bHbgn3_/?igshid=blpk6588p8i1
>> 
>> B
>> 
 On 29 Mar 2020, at 08:40, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, and thanks to everyone else.
>>> 
> On 29 Mar 2020, at 05:33, David Mann  wrote:
 
 Love it.  The Magnum stuff is amazing.  Maybe I should try something but 
 I'm most likely to just get my daughter's "camera face".
 
 Cheers,
 Dave
 
>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:19 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> Here’s the Magnum link:
> 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B-P4AMbn7z_/?igshid=1ow17exuboo74
> 
> And one from me, taken yesterday when I was returning from the 
> supermarket:
> 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B-RZ9--ARp5/?igshid=1fuxf1br0kdcx
 
 
 
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Re: What to do with your camera during a lockdown

[Paul Stenquist]

Nice. I like the position of the primate in frame one. Hope to get out in my 
backyard today. That’s as far as I’ll venture.

Paul

> On Mar 29, 2020, at 4:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
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> Here’s a lugubrious diptych taken yesterday:
> 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B-T4bHbgn3_/?igshid=blpk6588p8i1
> 
> B
> 
>> On 29 Mar 2020, at 08:40, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, and thanks to everyone else.
>> 
 On 29 Mar 2020, at 05:33, David Mann  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Love it.  The Magnum stuff is amazing.  Maybe I should try something but 
>>> I'm most likely to just get my daughter's "camera face".
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dave
>>> 
> On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:19 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
 
 Here’s the Magnum link:
 
 https://www.instagram.com/p/B-P4AMbn7z_/?igshid=1ow17exuboo74
 
 And one from me, taken yesterday when I was returning from the supermarket:
 
 https://www.instagram.com/p/B-RZ9--ARp5/?igshid=1fuxf1br0kdcx
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Re: What to do with your camera during a lockdown

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Ha! Thank you! But now I have to be better today - oh dear...

> On 29 Mar 2020, at 09:37, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
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> Am 29.03.20 um 10:23 schrieb Bob Pdml:
>> Here’s a lugubrious diptych taken yesterday:
> 
> You're getting better by the day. This one has a cinematic quality. The
> kind of photo we call 'großes Kino' in German - grand cinema.
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Am 29.03.20 um 10:23 schrieb Bob Pdml:

Here’s a lugubrious diptych taken yesterday:


You're getting better by the day. This one has a cinematic quality. The
kind of photo we call 'großes Kino' in German - grand cinema.

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Here’s a lugubrious diptych taken yesterday:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-T4bHbgn3_/?igshid=blpk6588p8i1

B

> On 29 Mar 2020, at 08:40, Bob Pdml  wrote:
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> Thanks, and thanks to everyone else.
> 
>> On 29 Mar 2020, at 05:33, David Mann  wrote:
>> 
>> Love it.  The Magnum stuff is amazing.  Maybe I should try something but I'm 
>> most likely to just get my daughter's "camera face".
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>> 
 On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:19 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here’s the Magnum link:
>>> 
>>> https://www.instagram.com/p/B-P4AMbn7z_/?igshid=1ow17exuboo74
>>> 
>>> And one from me, taken yesterday when I was returning from the supermarket:
>>> 
>>> https://www.instagram.com/p/B-RZ9--ARp5/?igshid=1fuxf1br0kdcx
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Re: What to do with your camera during a lockdown

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Thanks, and thanks to everyone else.

> On 29 Mar 2020, at 05:33, David Mann  wrote:
> 
> Love it.  The Magnum stuff is amazing.  Maybe I should try something but I'm 
> most likely to just get my daughter's "camera face".
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:19 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> Here’s the Magnum link:
>> 
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/B-P4AMbn7z_/?igshid=1ow17exuboo74
>> 
>> And one from me, taken yesterday when I was returning from the supermarket:
>> 
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/B-RZ9--ARp5/?igshid=1fuxf1br0kdcx
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Love it.  The Magnum stuff is amazing.  Maybe I should try something but I'm 
most likely to just get my daughter's "camera face".

Cheers,
Dave

On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:19 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

> Here’s the Magnum link:
> 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B-P4AMbn7z_/?igshid=1ow17exuboo74
> 
> And one from me, taken yesterday when I was returning from the supermarket:
> 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B-RZ9--ARp5/?igshid=1fuxf1br0kdcx



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Re: What to do with your camera during a lockdown

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> On 28 March 2020 at 20:43 Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
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> 
> Am 28.03.20 um 10:19 schrieb Bob Pdml:
> 
> > And one from me, taken yesterday when I was returning from the supermarket:
> >
> > https://www.instagram.com/p/B-RZ9--ARp5/?igshid=1fuxf1br0kdcx
> 
> Brilliant!
> 
> Ralf

Absolutely!!

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Re: What to do with your camera during a lockdown

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I'm Elliot's alter ego, Eliot Dimwitt.

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> Doing my best...
>
> > On 28 Mar 2020, at 12:42, ann sanfedele  wrote:
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> >
> > xo,
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Doing my best...

> On 28 Mar 2020, at 12:42, ann sanfedele  wrote:
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Hey who do you think you are, Elliot Erwitt?

xo,
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On 3/28/2020 5:19 AM, Bob Pdml wrote:

On 28 Mar 2020, at 08:32, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:

Am 28.03.20 um 09:04 schrieb Bob Pdml:


Magnum photographers are posting their 'lockdown diaries' to Instagram.

Thanks for the link, Bob.

You might want to put such contributions into a thread of their own. I'd
almost missed it. Not everyone is still following the endless discussion
if an idiot should be called an idiot. :-)

Ralf


Here’s the Magnum link:

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Brilliant indeed!

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> Am 28.03.20 um 10:19 schrieb Bob Pdml:
>
> > And one from me, taken yesterday when I was returning from the
> supermarket:
> >
> > https://www.instagram.com/p/B-RZ9--ARp5/?igshid=1fuxf1br0kdcx
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> Brilliant!
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Re: What to do with your camera during a lockdown

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Fun stuff!

Paul

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 5:44 AM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 28.03.20 um 10:19 schrieb Bob Pdml:
> 
>> And one from me, taken yesterday when I was returning from the supermarket:
>> 
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/B-RZ9--ARp5/?igshid=1fuxf1br0kdcx
> 
> Brilliant!
> 
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Re: What to do with your camera during a lockdown

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> On 28 March 2020 at 09:19 Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> 
> > On 28 Mar 2020, at 08:32, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> > 
> > Am 28.03.20 um 09:04 schrieb Bob Pdml:
> > 
> >> Magnum photographers are posting their 'lockdown diaries' to Instagram.
> > 
> > Thanks for the link, Bob.
> > 
> > You might want to put such contributions into a thread of their own. I'd
> > almost missed it. Not everyone is still following the endless discussion
> > if an idiot should be called an idiot. :-)
> > 
> > Ralf
> > 
> 
> Here’s the Magnum link:
> 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B-P4AMbn7z_/?igshid=1ow17exuboo74
> 
> And one from me, taken yesterday when I was returning from the supermarket:
> 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B-RZ9--ARp5/?igshid=1fuxf1br0kdcx

Friendly cannon fire on thou
For you're not feeling human, now.

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Re: What to do with your camera during a lockdown

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Am 28.03.20 um 10:19 schrieb Bob Pdml:


And one from me, taken yesterday when I was returning from the supermarket:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-RZ9--ARp5/?igshid=1fuxf1br0kdcx


Brilliant!

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What to do with your camera during a lockdown

[Bob Pdml]

> On 28 Mar 2020, at 08:32, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 28.03.20 um 09:04 schrieb Bob Pdml:
> 
>> Magnum photographers are posting their 'lockdown diaries' to Instagram.
> 
> Thanks for the link, Bob.
> 
> You might want to put such contributions into a thread of their own. I'd
> almost missed it. Not everyone is still following the endless discussion
> if an idiot should be called an idiot. :-)
> 
> Ralf
> 

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https://www.instagram.com/p/B-P4AMbn7z_/?igshid=1ow17exuboo74

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Re: Peso: What do you mean you need to sit here to work?

[John]

It's not general delivery like we get during the week, they only go to specific 
houses.


I think it has something to do with a contract the Postal Service has with 
UPS/FedEx to handle the final mile of deliveries.


But I don't think that's who he was barking at, 'cause I could hear kids playing 
outside.


On 3/15/2020 18:15:32, P. J. Alling wrote:
It's funny you should mention mailmen not delivering on Sunday, because I saw a 
mail truck delivering mail while walking the dog earlier.  I didn't know that 
they did that anymore.


On 3/15/2020 12:55 PM, John wrote:

I like the calculating expression on her face.

"How many nom-noms will you give me to let you sit here?"

Prince does that too. Just as soon as I get up for any reason, he hops up on 
my "work" chair. He usually gets down as soon as I come back into the room & 
waits for me to sit down so he can get into my lap.


Right now, he's in the living room barking at the mailman through the front 
door. The mailman doesn't deliver on Sunday, but Prince doesn't know that.




On 3/14/2020 20:04:32, ann sanfedele wrote:

Ashley, of course

https://annsan.smugmug.com/The-Kitty-Corner/Ashley-ultimate-alpha-tabby/i-VZxQRxM/A 











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Re: Peso: What do you mean you need to sit here to work?

[P. J. Alling]

It's funny you should mention mailmen not delivering on Sunday, because 
I saw a mail truck delivering mail while walking the dog earlier.  I 
didn't know that they did that anymore.


On 3/15/2020 12:55 PM, John wrote:

I like the calculating expression on her face.

"How many nom-noms will you give me to let you sit here?"

Prince does that too. Just as soon as I get up for any reason, he hops 
up on my "work" chair. He usually gets down as soon as I come back 
into the room & waits for me to sit down so he can get into my lap.


Right now, he's in the living room barking at the mailman through the 
front door. The mailman doesn't deliver on Sunday, but Prince doesn't 
know that.




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Ashley, of course

https://annsan.smugmug.com/The-Kitty-Corner/Ashley-ultimate-alpha-tabby/i-VZxQRxM/A 









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Re: Peso: What do you mean you need to sit here to work?

[ann sanfedele]

I get a bit of that as well!

ann

On 3/15/2020 5:22 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Nice pic, that shows her personality well!

One of our cats would occupy my wife’s chair in our study. When she sat down to 
work, the cat would hop up on the desk and march back and forth across the 
keyboard.




On Mar 14, 2020, at 8:04 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Ashley, of course

https://annsan.smugmug.com/The-Kitty-Corner/Ashley-ultimate-alpha-tabby/i-VZxQRxM/A



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Re: Peso: What do you mean you need to sit here to work?

[Rick Womer]

Nice pic, that shows her personality well!

One of our cats would occupy my wife’s chair in our study. When she sat down to 
work, the cat would hop up on the desk and march back and forth across the 
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> On Mar 14, 2020, at 8:04 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Ashley, of course
> 
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Re: Peso: What do you mean you need to sit here to work?

[John]

I like the calculating expression on her face.

"How many nom-noms will you give me to let you sit here?"

Prince does that too. Just as soon as I get up for any reason, he hops up on my 
"work" chair. He usually gets down as soon as I come back into the room & waits 
for me to sit down so he can get into my lap.


Right now, he's in the living room barking at the mailman through the front 
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Ashley, of course

https://annsan.smugmug.com/The-Kitty-Corner/Ashley-ultimate-alpha-tabby/i-VZxQRxM/A






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Pretty kitty!

Paul

> On Mar 14, 2020, at 8:05 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
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Re: Peso: What do you mean you need to sit here to work?

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Cute!
When my son comes to visit, my dog will jump up on the couch where my son
usually sits.  After an appropriate exchange of greetings, he will get back
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Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive

[Rob Studdert]

I'm late to the party but I'll chime in, much like Doug my income is
highly variable these days (photography being what it is) but still I
value the work-flow inherent in LR enough to submit to their
ransom-ware tactics (which I loathe). I stay within LR for most of my
edits if possible and venture out to PS only when absolutely
necessary, all my images are accessible via a single catalogue (as I
am regularly required to delve into past shoots) and it's currently
sitting at just shy of 600k images without a hitch.

In the last year I've also been running an Xtouch Mini MIDI mixer via
MIDI2LR to facilitate direct control of my major adjustments and image
selection and this has significantly increased the pace of my
work-flow when managing larger shoots.

On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 at 09:49, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
>
> Am 24.11.19 um 20:48 schrieb Steve Cottrell:
>
> > I'm still using Final Cut Pro 7 and so unless I want to make the jump to 
> > FCPX, I have no choice.
> >
> > And I don't want to make the jump.
>
> Same here for various software and I'd hate to give up the only surround
> sound headphone system that's ever worked for me.
>
> Ralf
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Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 24.11.19 um 20:48 schrieb Steve Cottrell:


I'm still using Final Cut Pro 7 and so unless I want to make the jump to FCPX, 
I have no choice.

And I don't want to make the jump.


Same here for various software and I'd hate to give up the only surround
sound headphone system that's ever worked for me.

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Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive

[Steve Cottrell]

On 24/11/19, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Nothing wrong with that.

I'm still using Final Cut Pro 7 and so unless I want to make the jump to FCPX, 
I have no choice.

And I don't want to make the jump.

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Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 12:43 PM Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> On 23/11/19, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >So, I'm afraid I and many of us will be stuck with Mojave for a long
> >time to come.
>
> Holding at El Capitan indefinitely!
>

Moi too

Dave

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Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 24.11.19 um 18:42 schrieb Steve Cottrell:


Holding at El Capitan indefinitely!


Nothing wrong with that.

Ralf

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Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive

[Steve Cottrell]

On 23/11/19, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:

>So, I'm afraid I and many of us will be stuck with Mojave for a long
>time to come.

Holding at El Capitan indefinitely!

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Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive

[Postmaster]

Larry, I bought the last non-ransomware version of Lightroom and
didn't bother even installing until almost two years later! The
"dehaze" tool was a useful addition but other than that it didn't have
anything to recommend it over previous versions as far as I'm
concerned. I can't see any reason to upgrade further, myself.

If you really need better HDR and panorama tools you'll get better
results with specialized third-party applications and probably save
money, too. Photomatix Pro is the benchmark for HDR and it's only
$99.00 and worth twice that, at least.

There are several panorama apps that better Pholtoshop and Lightroom
for prices between $30 and $100.

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Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

> 
> Lightroom 6.14 runs okay on MacOS Mojave. It runs “ok” on Catalina also, as 
> long as you installed Catalina over an existing Mojave system with LR already 
> installed. It’s the Adobe installer/license management app that doesn’t run 
> on Catalina preventing LR 6 installation. 
> 
> My solution to this and other future Adobe nonsense is to freeze my 2012 Mac 
> mini at Mojave and use it as a backup for when I need to access currently 
> existing LR work. I purchased a new 2019 Mac mini with far more processing 
> power and RAM that came preinstalled with Catalina, and am building a new 
> Adobe free and MS free working environment on it for new work going forwards. 
> 
> I see no purpose to moving backwards to assure compatibility with already 
> obsolete software. 
> 
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Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive

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Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Lightroom 6.14 runs okay on MacOS Mojave. It runs “ok” on Catalina also, as 
long as you installed Catalina over an existing Mojave system with LR already 
installed. It’s the Adobe installer/license management app that doesn’t run on 
Catalina preventing LR 6 installation. 

My solution to this and other future Adobe nonsense is to freeze my 2012 Mac 
mini at Mojave and use it as a backup for when I need to access currently 
existing LR work. I purchased a new 2019 Mac mini with far more processing 
power and RAM that came preinstalled with Catalina, and am building a new Adobe 
free and MS free working environment on it for new work going forwards. 

I see no purpose to moving backwards to assure compatibility with already 
obsolete software. 

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Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive

[Doug Brewer]

HDR and panorama functions don't do anything for me whatsoever. I don't 
use face recognition or GPS info because I know who it is and where I am 
most of the time.


Having said that, I use LR Classic and gladly pay the monthly because 
it's as much a part of my photography as my cameras, electricity, and 
bills for studio time, and my income is likely at this point in time 
more uncertain than yours.


99% of my editing is LR, with the periodic visit to PS for layers or a 
more molecular edit if necessary, maybe a content-aware fill here and 
there, but the cataloging function and workflow ecosystem of LR is 
arguably more important to me.


I can't tell you what features of the program are going to be important 
enough to you to justify the cost. I can say that a few bucks a month is 
easier for me to cover than the full price package, so I live with it in 
order to stay functional and on top of the very many moving parts of my 
current work.




On 11/22/19 5:55 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

I recently came into the possession of a macbook pro that is a lot newer than 
mine, the downside is it only has a 1TB drive, and no ethernet port, but it 
does have USB 3 and two thunderbolt ports.  It had OSX Mojave installed on it, 
which it turns out won’t run LR 6.

I’m in the process of installing High Sierra, so that I can run LR 6.

I was happy to upgrade lightroom every couple of years.  However, when they 
went to ransomware, I declined.  My income is uncertain these days and I don’t 
want to be committed to paying an annual ransom to not be locked out of working 
on my photos.  I just haven’t had time to try out alternatives to lightroom and 
make the switch.  LR 6 had a couple of new features that I considered pretty 
cool, HDR and panoramas.  The face recognition is kind of nifty, but not as 
nifty as character recognition would be.  They also work pretty well, but have 
enough shortcomings that I’m not entirely happy with them.

Are there any absolutely must have features of the current lightroom that would 
make it worth $120 per year?  Mind you I have practically no interest in photo 
shop, certainly not enough to pay any extra for it.

Side question.  I’ve got what I want on an external drive and I’d love to just 
copy that over, but if I boot off the external drive, migration assistant won’t 
seem to just transfer everything to the recently formatted internal drive, so 
I’m doing the long slow installation of High Sierra, which is going to take 2 
hours, before I can even start the copy of data off the external drive.

Is there a quicker way to do this that I’m missing?



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Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 23.11.19 um 14:26 schrieb Jan van Wijk:


It is the reason I will NOT upgrade my latest macBook to 10.15 Catalina for now.


Given that Mojave appears to be the last OSX version that runs 32 bit
software, an upgrade to Catalina would be software suicide for most of us.

I keep getting those "Your software isn't optimized..." messages since I
upgraded to Mojave, so I guess I'd lose a few essential pieces of
software that can't be easily replaced because there are no 64 versions
available.

I'm still using Microsoft Expression Media 2 for cataloguing and
browsing my audio files (recorded soundscapes, not music) and can't find
a modern replacement. My Beyerdynamic Headzone Pro surround headphone
system has only 32 bit software, so I'd even lose the use of some of my
hardware.

So, I'm afraid I and many of us will be stuck with Mojave for a long
time to come.

Ralf

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Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive

[Jan van Wijk]

Hi Larry,

On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 14:55:36 -0800 Larry Colen wrote:
>
>I recently came into the possession of a macbook pro that is a lot newer than 
>mine, the downside is it only has a 1TB drive, and no ethernet port, but it 
>does 
have USB 3 and two thunderbolt ports.  It had OSX Mojave installed on it, which 
it turns out wont run LR 6.
>
>Im in the process of installing High Sierra, so that I can run LR 6.

As I think you discovered by now, LR6 DOES run on macOS 10.14, Mojave.

It is the reason I will NOT upgrade my latest macBook to 10.15 Catalina for now.

I am run LR 6.14 without any problems really ...

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Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 22.11.19 um 23:55 schrieb Larry Colen:


Are there any absolutely must have features of the current lightroom that would 
make it worth $120 per year?


That depends on what *you* must have...

To me, the library side is at least as important as the RAW development.
Also, I have 'bought' Lightroom Classic because the map function in LR6
was broken and I use it to quickly find out what photos I have from a
particular location when I want to illustrate one of my blog posts.
Next, I'd hate to be without lens profiles. And lastly LR not only
accepts RAW but also TIFF which is the format of my film scans. These
are my must haves, yours may differ.

You might want to have a look at RAW Power. It offers about 90 percent
of the functionality of Lightroom at a fraction of the price. I even
doubt that I had bought Lightroom Classic if I'd been aware of RAW Power
at the time.

Ralf

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Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive

[Larry Colen]

> On Nov 22, 2019, at 11:36 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> 
> You might want to take a look at On1 Photo RAW 2020 as a replacement for LR.  
> There will be a learning curve but it's a pretty powerful program which 
> includes HDR, panoramas, focus stacking and their resize engine is based on 
> Genuine Fractals. The 30 day trial is fully functional and if you don't like 
> it you can dump it.  I still have LR6 on my machine but I don't think I've 
> used it in more than 6 months.

Cool, thanks.  I just looked at it. Unfortunately my main machine (early 2009 
mac pro) won’t run the 64 bit OS, and On 1 2020 won’t run on the earlier OSX.  

Moving to On1 would mean investing in a new computer, which isn’t in my budget 
this week.  Mind you a modern mac that would support internal drives won’t be 
available for a while,  and when it is the buy in for a new mac pro would be 
far beyond my personal budget.

I’m also planning on looking at darktable, which has the advantage of also 
running on Linux.  A Linux box would be a lot more affordable than a mac pro 
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Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive

[Paul Sorenson]

You might want to take a look at On1 Photo RAW 2020 as a replacement for 
LR.  There will be a learning curve but it's a pretty powerful program 
which includes HDR, panoramas, focus stacking and their resize engine is 
based on Genuine Fractals. The 30 day trial is fully functional and if 
you don't like it you can dump it.  I still have LR6 on my machine but I 
don't think I've used it in more than 6 months.


-p

On 11/22/2019 4:55 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

I recently came into the possession of a macbook pro that is a lot newer than 
mine, the downside is it only has a 1TB drive, and no ethernet port, but it 
does have USB 3 and two thunderbolt ports.  It had OSX Mojave installed on it, 
which it turns out won’t run LR 6.

I’m in the process of installing High Sierra, so that I can run LR 6.

I was happy to upgrade lightroom every couple of years.  However, when they 
went to ransomware, I declined.  My income is uncertain these days and I don’t 
want to be committed to paying an annual ransom to not be locked out of working 
on my photos.  I just haven’t had time to try out alternatives to lightroom and 
make the switch.  LR 6 had a couple of new features that I considered pretty 
cool, HDR and panoramas.  The face recognition is kind of nifty, but not as 
nifty as character recognition would be.  They also work pretty well, but have 
enough shortcomings that I’m not entirely happy with them.

Are there any absolutely must have features of the current lightroom that would 
make it worth $120 per year?  Mind you I have practically no interest in photo 
shop, certainly not enough to pay any extra for it.

Side question.  I’ve got what I want on an external drive and I’d love to just 
copy that over, but if I boot off the external drive, migration assistant won’t 
seem to just transfer everything to the recently formatted internal drive, so 
I’m doing the long slow installation of High Sierra, which is going to take 2 
hours, before I can even start the copy of data off the external drive.

Is there a quicker way to do this that I’m missing?



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Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive

[Larry Colen]

> 
> Side question.  I’ve got what I want on an external drive and I’d love to 
> just copy that over, but if I boot off the external drive, migration 
> assistant won’t seem to just transfer everything to the recently formatted 
> internal drive, so I’m doing the long slow installation of High Sierra, which 
> is going to take 2 hours, before I can even start the copy of data off the 
> external drive.
> 
> Is there a quicker way to do this that I’m missing?

update:  it’s possible it would have run on Mojave, after I upgraded back to 
High Sierra, I still had the same problem, ended up having to reinstall LR6 
from a DMG.

It’s now working.  


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What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive

[Larry Colen]

I recently came into the possession of a macbook pro that is a lot newer than 
mine, the downside is it only has a 1TB drive, and no ethernet port, but it 
does have USB 3 and two thunderbolt ports.  It had OSX Mojave installed on it, 
which it turns out won’t run LR 6.

I’m in the process of installing High Sierra, so that I can run LR 6.

I was happy to upgrade lightroom every couple of years.  However, when they 
went to ransomware, I declined.  My income is uncertain these days and I don’t 
want to be committed to paying an annual ransom to not be locked out of working 
on my photos.  I just haven’t had time to try out alternatives to lightroom and 
make the switch.  LR 6 had a couple of new features that I considered pretty 
cool, HDR and panoramas.  The face recognition is kind of nifty, but not as 
nifty as character recognition would be.  They also work pretty well, but have 
enough shortcomings that I’m not entirely happy with them.

Are there any absolutely must have features of the current lightroom that would 
make it worth $120 per year?  Mind you I have practically no interest in photo 
shop, certainly not enough to pay any extra for it.

Side question.  I’ve got what I want on an external drive and I’d love to just 
copy that over, but if I boot off the external drive, migration assistant won’t 
seem to just transfer everything to the recently formatted internal drive, so 
I’m doing the long slow installation of High Sierra, which is going to take 2 
hours, before I can even start the copy of data off the external drive.

Is there a quicker way to do this that I’m missing?



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what is lightroom version 9.0?

[Jos de Fotograaf]

Dear Group,
Googlin I found for down load:


 Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Classic CC 2020 9.0.0.10 RePack

What is this Newer than 8.4?

Greetz, Jos
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Re: OT: What is happening to British Universities?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

American universities face many of the same issues.  Our biggest problems
are the excessive cost of a college education and the amount of debt many
students incur via student loans.

Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 1:00 PM mike wilson  wrote:

>
> > On 25 August 2019 at 11:27 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 25/8/19, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> > >No subscription - no read.  Very liberal.
> >
> > Strange, I had no problem reading it.
> >
> > Reproduced below...
> >
> > The UK's reputedly world-class higher education sector has long been a
> source of pride and consolation for a diminished power. At first glance,
> universities have relentlessly expanded without any reduction in standards.
> Since 1990, the number of undergraduate degrees awarded has increased
> fivefold, while the proportion of Firsts granted has quadrupled. But this
> facade of success masks profound and long-standing problems. In this week's
> cover story, Harry Lambert exposes what we call "the great university con".
> For decades, successive governments have systematically undermined the
> value and prestige of a British degree as education has been forced to
> operate under market conditions.
> >
> > In a 2016 OECD study, which assessed basic skill levels among recent
> graduates from 23 countries, England ranked in the bottom third. In spite
> of spending about £21,000 per student (more than any country except the
> United States), England's skill levels are around three times worse than
> the top eight countries (which spend around £15,000 per student). One in
> two recent British graduates is not in graduate work, a rate that has
> consistently risen since 2001.
> >
> >
> > The purpose of university expansion, pursued by both Conservative and
> Labour governments, was once a noble one. Lionel Robbins, a professor at
> the London School of Economics, and the author of the 1963 report on higher
> education, emphasised that "the standard traditionally attached to the term
> 'degree' in this country will be fully maintained".
> >
> > But it has not been. On 12 July, faced with the number of students
> achieving "good honours" - a First or 2:1 - rising from 47 per cent in 1994
> to 79 per cent, Damian Hinds, the former education secretary, emphasised
> that "artificial grade inflation is not in anyone's interests". And yet, as
> Harry Lambert writes, the "perverse incentives" imposed by the state have
> made this a logical outcome.
> >
> > In common with so many current issues, the origins of today's problems
> go back to the market turn of the 1980s. The 1985 Jarratt Report declared
> that "universities are first and foremost corporate enterprises" and
> inaugurated a trend of continual marketisation. As students were rebranded
> as "customers", institutions sought less to test them than to appease them.
> Grade inflation - designed to boost universities' league table standing -
> has followed.
> >
> > Subsequent reforms have merely compounded the problem. The decision by
> the 2010-15 coalition government largely to abolish direct state funding
> for university teaching (replaced by tuition fees of £9,000) introduced a
> system in which money "followed the student", creating an additional
> incentive to manipulate standards and results.
> >
> > The British higher education system retains some formidable strengths
> and the benefits of a university experience extend far beyond the awarding
> of a degree. The stereotype of students as indolent hedonists is undeserved
> (indeed, data suggests they have seldom been more abstemious). But grade
> inflation and the unqualified expansion of universities should end. For too
> long, the higher education sector has allowed its reputation to obscure a
> mediocre reality. British students - who now pay the developed world's
> highest public university fees - deserve much better.
> >
>
> Nothing to argue with there.  In fact, it sums up British education from
> nursery upwards.
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Re: OT: What is happening to British Universities?

[mike wilson]

> On 25 August 2019 at 11:27 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 25/8/19, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >No subscription - no read.  Very liberal.
> 
> Strange, I had no problem reading it.
> 
> Reproduced below...
> 
> The UK's reputedly world-class higher education sector has long been a source 
> of pride and consolation for a diminished power. At first glance, 
> universities have relentlessly expanded without any reduction in standards. 
> Since 1990, the number of undergraduate degrees awarded has increased 
> fivefold, while the proportion of Firsts granted has quadrupled. But this 
> facade of success masks profound and long-standing problems. In this week's 
> cover story, Harry Lambert exposes what we call "the great university con". 
> For decades, successive governments have systematically undermined the value 
> and prestige of a British degree as education has been forced to operate 
> under market conditions. 
> 
> In a 2016 OECD study, which assessed basic skill levels among recent 
> graduates from 23 countries, England ranked in the bottom third. In spite of 
> spending about £21,000 per student (more than any country except the United 
> States), England's skill levels are around three times worse than the top 
> eight countries (which spend around £15,000 per student). One in two recent 
> British graduates is not in graduate work, a rate that has consistently risen 
> since 2001.
> 
> 
> The purpose of university expansion, pursued by both Conservative and Labour 
> governments, was once a noble one. Lionel Robbins, a professor at the London 
> School of Economics, and the author of the 1963 report on higher education, 
> emphasised that "the standard traditionally attached to the term 'degree' in 
> this country will be fully maintained".
> 
> But it has not been. On 12 July, faced with the number of students achieving 
> "good honours" - a First or 2:1 - rising from 47 per cent in 1994 to 79 per 
> cent, Damian Hinds, the former education secretary, emphasised that 
> "artificial grade inflation is not in anyone's interests". And yet, as Harry 
> Lambert writes, the "perverse incentives" imposed by the state have made this 
> a logical outcome.
> 
> In common with so many current issues, the origins of today's problems go 
> back to the market turn of the 1980s. The 1985 Jarratt Report declared that 
> "universities are first and foremost corporate enterprises" and inaugurated a 
> trend of continual marketisation. As students were rebranded as "customers", 
> institutions sought less to test them than to appease them. Grade inflation - 
> designed to boost universities' league table standing - has followed.
> 
> Subsequent reforms have merely compounded the problem. The decision by the 
> 2010-15 coalition government largely to abolish direct state funding for 
> university teaching (replaced by tuition fees of £9,000) introduced a system 
> in which money "followed the student", creating an additional incentive to 
> manipulate standards and results.
> 
> The British higher education system retains some formidable strengths and the 
> benefits of a university experience extend far beyond the awarding of a 
> degree. The stereotype of students as indolent hedonists is undeserved 
> (indeed, data suggests they have seldom been more abstemious). But grade 
> inflation and the unqualified expansion of universities should end. For too 
> long, the higher education sector has allowed its reputation to obscure a 
> mediocre reality. British students - who now pay the developed world's 
> highest public university fees - deserve much better. 
> 

Nothing to argue with there.  In fact, it sums up British education from 
nursery upwards.

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Re: OT: What is happening to British Universities?

[Steve Cottrell]

On 24/8/19, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Duh!  I forgot the link:

<https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/education/2019/08/leader-great-british-university-con>

> >I am concerned about the quality of higher education in the US.  I read
> >this article about what is happening in the UK, and would like to see
> >reactions from informed citizens of the UK.

Difficult to make much of it when referring to such a short article big on 
headline but low on detail.

I haven't read anything else recently which highlights a problem in UK 
universities.

As far as I am aware, the UK has some of the top universities int he world, and 
I haven't heard of or worked on any news stories recently which echo the 
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Re: OT: What is happening to British Universities?

[Steve Cottrell]

On 25/8/19, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

>No subscription - no read.  Very liberal.

Strange, I had no problem reading it.

Reproduced below...

The UK's reputedly world-class higher education sector has long been a source 
of pride and consolation for a diminished power. At first glance, universities 
have relentlessly expanded without any reduction in standards. Since 1990, the 
number of undergraduate degrees awarded has increased fivefold, while the 
proportion of Firsts granted has quadrupled. But this facade of success masks 
profound and long-standing problems. In this week's cover story, Harry Lambert 
exposes what we call "the great university con". For decades, successive 
governments have systematically undermined the value and prestige of a British 
degree as education has been forced to operate under market conditions. 

In a 2016 OECD study, which assessed basic skill levels among recent graduates 
from 23 countries, England ranked in the bottom third. In spite of spending 
about £21,000 per student (more than any country except the United States), 
England's skill levels are around three times worse than the top eight 
countries (which spend around £15,000 per student). One in two recent British 
graduates is not in graduate work, a rate that has consistently risen since 
2001.


The purpose of university expansion, pursued by both Conservative and Labour 
governments, was once a noble one. Lionel Robbins, a professor at the London 
School of Economics, and the author of the 1963 report on higher education, 
emphasised that "the standard traditionally attached to the term 'degree' in 
this country will be fully maintained".

But it has not been. On 12 July, faced with the number of students achieving 
"good honours" - a First or 2:1 - rising from 47 per cent in 1994 to 79 per 
cent, Damian Hinds, the former education secretary, emphasised that "artificial 
grade inflation is not in anyone's interests". And yet, as Harry Lambert 
writes, the "perverse incentives" imposed by the state have made this a logical 
outcome.

In common with so many current issues, the origins of today's problems go back 
to the market turn of the 1980s. The 1985 Jarratt Report declared that 
"universities are first and foremost corporate enterprises" and inaugurated a 
trend of continual marketisation. As students were rebranded as "customers", 
institutions sought less to test them than to appease them. Grade inflation - 
designed to boost universities' league table standing - has followed.

Subsequent reforms have merely compounded the problem. The decision by the 
2010-15 coalition government largely to abolish direct state funding for 
university teaching (replaced by tuition fees of £9,000) introduced a system in 
which money "followed the student", creating an additional incentive to 
manipulate standards and results.

The British higher education system retains some formidable strengths and the 
benefits of a university experience extend far beyond the awarding of a degree. 
The stereotype of students as indolent hedonists is undeserved (indeed, data 
suggests they have seldom been more abstemious). But grade inflation and the 
unqualified expansion of universities should end. For too long, the higher 
education sector has allowed its reputation to obscure a mediocre reality. 
British students - who now pay the developed world's highest public university 
fees - deserve much better. 

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Re: OT: What is happening to British Universities?

[mike wilson]

> On 24 August 2019 at 23:27 "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
> 
> 
> Duh!  I forgot the link:
> 
> https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/education/2019/08/leader-great-british-university-con

No subscription - no read.  Very liberal.

> 
> Dan Matyola
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> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 1:52 PM Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> > On 24/8/19, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> > >I am concerned about the quality of higher education in the US.  I read
> > >this article about what is happening in the UK, and would like to see
> > >reactions from informed citizens of the UK.
> >
> > Oh, and what is happening in the UK?
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >   Cotty
> >
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Re: OT: What is happening to British Universities?

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On Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 4:28 PM Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:

> Duh!  I forgot the link:
>

That's pretty ironic...

Sorry Dan. I just couldn't resist that one.

>
>
> https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/education/2019/08/leader-great-british-university-con
>
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> On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 1:52 PM Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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> > On 24/8/19, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> > >I am concerned about the quality of higher education in the US.  I read
> > >this article about what is happening in the UK, and would like to see
> > >reactions from informed citizens of the UK.
> >
> > Oh, and what is happening in the UK?
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
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> >
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Re: OT: What is happening to British Universities?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Duh!  I forgot the link:

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/education/2019/08/leader-great-british-university-con

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On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 1:52 PM Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> On 24/8/19, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >I am concerned about the quality of higher education in the US.  I read
> >this article about what is happening in the UK, and would like to see
> >reactions from informed citizens of the UK.
>
> Oh, and what is happening in the UK?
>
> --
>
>
> Cheers,
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Re: OT: What is happening to British Universities?

[Steve Cottrell]

On 24/8/19, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I am concerned about the quality of higher education in the US.  I read
>this article about what is happening in the UK, and would like to see
>reactions from informed citizens of the UK.

Oh, and what is happening in the UK?

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OT: What is happening to British Universities?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

This is for the list members in the UK.

I am concerned about the quality of higher education in the US.  I read
this article about what is happening in the UK, and would like to see
reactions from informed citizens of the UK.

To avoid getting into political discussions, it might br preferable to send
me any comments or reactions off-list.

TIA, Dan

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Re: Anyone know what brand this tripod is?

[Anthony Farr]

The style of the feet suggests Slik to me.

regards, Anthony

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> Brand X? 
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> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 5:57 PM Collin Brendemuehl 
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> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/albums/72157706725437421
> >
> > I can't find any markings on it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Collin Brendemuehl
> >
> > 614-354-6686 (texting ok)
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Re: Anyone know what brand this tripod is?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Brand X? 

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> https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/albums/72157706725437421
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Anyone know what brand this tripod is?

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/albums/72157706725437421

I can't find any markings on it.

 

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Re: What Kind of Critter?

[John]

On 3/7/2019 12:31:49, Paul Stenquist wrote:


When I opened the front door to get the paper, I saw a row of paw prints,
each single print followed by another, all in a straight line. Each print is
about 2 inches wide and the prints were about 8 inches apart. The critter
came all the way up on the front porch then seems to have walked away
immediately. The closest match I can find on the web is an otter. Some
populate the wetlands down the street. Might also be a skunk. It's something
with five pads. Too big to be a squirrel I think. Any guesses?


https://www.photo.net/photo/18526825/Paw-print-in-snow



Best guess I can come up with based on searching the internet for five toed 
mammals is something from the family Mustelidae, which would include the Striped 
Skunk.



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Re: What Kind of Critter?

[David Mann]

Looks like Bigfoot to me.

Cheers,
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> On Mar 8, 2019, at 6:31 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> 
> When I opened the front door to get the paper, I saw a row of paw prints, 
> each single print followed by another, all in a straight line. Each print is 
> about 2 inches wide and the prints were about 8 inches apart. The critter 
> came all the way up on the front porch then seems to have walked away 
> immediately. The closest match I can find on the web is an otter. Some 
> populate the wetlands down the street. Might also be a skunk. It's something 
> with five pads. Too big to be a squirrel I think. Any guesses?
> 
> 
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18526825/Paw-print-in-snow
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Re: What Kind of Critter?

[ann sanfedele]

damn - I should have just used the link instead of quoting it..  there 
were pictures that showed them looking the same  now I can't find it



On 3/7/2019 7:27 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
The hind paw prints from skunk are much different than the fore paw 
prints.s


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- Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" 
Subject: Re: What Kind of Critter?


I looked up some prints online and it certainly looks like skunk from 
what I read..


"Skunks have five toes on their hind and front feet. Unlike most 
mammal that have large hind feet, and small
front feet the front and hind feet of the skunk are approximately the 
same size. They also have claws that show up in many of their prints."


/ann//
/

On 3/7/2019 12:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
When I opened the front door to get the paper, I saw a row of paw 
prints, each single print followed by another, all in a straight 
line. Each print is about 2 inches wide and the prints were about 8 
inches apart. The critter came all the way up on the front porch 
then seems to have walked away immediately. The closest match I can 
find on the web is an otter. Some populate the wetlands down the 
street. Might also be a skunk. It's something with five pads. Too 
big to be a squirrel I think. Any guesses?



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Re: What Kind of Critter?

[Ken Waller]

The hind paw prints from skunk are much different than the fore paw prints.s

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- Original Message - 
From: "ann sanfedele" 

Subject: Re: What Kind of Critter?


I looked up some prints online and it certainly looks like skunk from what 
I read..


"Skunks have five toes on their hind and front feet. Unlike most mammal 
that have large hind feet, and small
front feet the front and hind feet of the skunk are approximately the same 
size. They also have claws that show up in many of their prints."


/ann//
/

On 3/7/2019 12:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
When I opened the front door to get the paper, I saw a row of paw prints, 
each single print followed by another, all in a straight line. Each print 
is about 2 inches wide and the prints were about 8 inches apart. The 
critter came all the way up on the front porch then seems to have walked 
away immediately. The closest match I can find on the web is an otter. 
Some populate the wetlands down the street. Might also be a skunk. It's 
something with five pads. Too big to be a squirrel I think. Any guesses?



https://www.photo.net/photo/18526825/Paw-print-in-snow


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Re: What Kind of Critter?

[Ken Waller]

Although I don’t know what they do in the wee hours.


WEE WEE !

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- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" 

Subject: Re: What Kind of Critter?


Yes, all the same, and all in a straight line. There are some coyotes in 
the wooded area behind my house, but they generally don’t come very close. 
Although I don’t know what they do in the wee hours.



On Mar 7, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

Might also be a fox or coyote. Were all the tracks the same?

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- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" 


Subject: What Kind of Critter?




When I opened the front door to get the paper, I saw a row of paw 
prints, each single print followed by another, all in a straight line. 
Each print is about 2 inches wide and the prints were about 8 inches 
apart. The critter came all the way up on the front porch then seems to 
have walked away immediately. The closest match I can find on the web is 
an otter. Some populate the wetlands down the street. Might also be a 
skunk. It's something with five pads. Too big to be a squirrel I think. 
Any guesses?



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Re: What Kind of Critter?

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Ann. Skunk is quite likely. The claws aren’t visible, but the dusting of 
snow that partially covered the track may have obscured them.

Paul

> On Mar 7, 2019, at 4:38 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I looked up some prints online and it certainly looks like skunk from what I 
> read..
> 
> "Skunks have five toes on their hind and front feet. Unlike most mammal that 
> have large hind feet, and small
> front feet the front and hind feet of the skunk are approximately the same 
> size. They also have claws that show up in many of their prints."
> 
> /ann//
> /
> 
>> On 3/7/2019 12:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> When I opened the front door to get the paper, I saw a row of paw prints, 
>> each single print followed by another, all in a straight line. Each print is 
>> about 2 inches wide and the prints were about 8 inches apart. The critter 
>> came all the way up on the front porch then seems to have walked away 
>> immediately. The closest match I can find on the web is an otter. Some 
>> populate the wetlands down the street. Might also be a skunk. It's something 
>> with five pads. Too big to be a squirrel I think. Any guesses?
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18526825/Paw-print-in-snow
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Re: What Kind of Critter?

[Steve Cottrell]

On 7/3/19, l...@red4est.com, discombobulated, unleashed:

>tail would drag in the snow, and for that matter its belly.

You rang!?!?

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Re: What Kind of Critter?

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Can you show a group of them?  An otter's tail would drag in the snow, and for 
that matter its belly.

On March 7, 2019 9:31:49 AM PST, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
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>When I opened the front door to get the paper, I saw a row of paw
>prints, each single print followed by another, all in a straight line.
>Each print is about 2 inches wide and the prints were about 8 inches
>apart. The critter came all the way up on the front porch then seems to
>have walked away immediately. The closest match I can find on the web
>is an otter. Some populate the wetlands down the street. Might also be
>a skunk. It's something with five pads. Too big to be a squirrel I
>think. Any guesses?
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>https://www.photo.net/photo/18526825/Paw-print-in-snow
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