Re: question on finance capital

2003-08-14 Thread michael
Can you point me to the source, please.  I remember you mentioning this
before.  Was it in LBO?

Doug Henwood wrote:

 michael wrote:

 Business Week describes GM becoming almost entirely dependent on its
 finance unit.  I recall seeing something similar about Ford.

 A few years ago, Ford was making money on its finance division and
 breaking even on cars. But the finance division was almost
 exclusively devoted to financing the purchase of Ford vehicles. So,
 they were capturing a business formerly engaged in by bankers, and
 their finance business was dependent on what they manufactured (which
 undermines the usual postindustrial story).

 Doug

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Economics Department
California State University
michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901


Re: Isaac Deutscher's anecdote about the readership of Marx's Capital in the ...

2003-08-14 Thread Michael Perelman
I missed this the first time, but this Hitler stuffdoes not belong here.

On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 11:24:44PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 8/6/03 5:06:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  You seem to be trying out your little Marxist Hitler style again ! Prove
  that the main source of difference was over democracy or shut up. What sort
  of language is this ? How can you expect people to debate with you on this
  basis ?
 
 

 So my working class politics are fascist. Great. I seek no debate. I assure
 you that is nothing fascistic about my particular form of Marxism. My political
 culture is and has always been based on the specific of electoral politics in
 a union setting. You may scream Stalin until you are blue in the face, makes
 me no difference.

 Melvin P

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Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
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Re: The Road to Serfdom

2003-08-14 Thread Michael Perelman
In my new book, I have a short section on Mises v. Neurath, where the
dispute began, just as Jim said.  Neurath was a plannist-marxist.

On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 02:31:32PM -0700, Devine, James wrote:
 Mises main target was Marx and the Marxists.

 Maybe, but the Austrians also opposed the plannist schools that were popular 
 between the two world wars in Europe. There were leftist non-Marxists such as the 
 followers of Edward Bellamy and rightist plannists such as Stackelberg.

 
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California State University
Chico, CA 95929

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Re: Euro Tigers

2003-08-14 Thread Eugene Coyle
Wow, this is in sharp contrast to the front page feature story in
today's WSJ which argued that Europe was on the fast track to expansion,
along with the USA and Japan.
   Is the glass half-assed?
Gene Coyle

Eubulides wrote:

New tigers bare their teeth

As Europe's traditional economic success stories struggle, seven countries
in the east of the continent are forging ahead. Mark Tran explains
Tuesday August 12, 2003
The Guardian
The first estimates of economic growth in Germany and euroland for the
second quarter, due this week, are likely to make bleak reading.
Both are expected to show very subdued activity, in line with the weak
survey numbers and industrial production figures that have already
appeared.
With Italy also in recession, countries that account for 60% of eurozone
gross domestic product (GDP) were probably stagnant in the second quarter.
So euroland is doing a poor job of picking up the slack at a time when the
world's traditional economic locomotive, the US, is having difficulty
picking up steam.
However, while Europe's traditional economic powerhouses are barely
ticking over, the continent is not entirely without its success stories.
To find them, you need to look east, to the three Baltic states (Estonia,
Latvia and Lithuania) in the north, through Slovakia in central Europe, to
the Balkans in south-east Europe (Bulgaria, Croatia and Romania).
In a report by HSBC, released last week, the seven countries are given a
catchy name: new Europe's new tigers.
The new tigers should all record growth of more than 4% in 2003, according
to economic experts. To put that into perspective, the UK, western
Europe's fastest-growing economy, will be lucky to grow by 1.7% this year.
The figure is well short of the chancellor, Gordon Brown's, forecast of
between 2% and 2.5%.
Latvia and Lithuania are likely to match or outstrip even China's
impressive growth this year. Admittedly, the new tigers started from a low
base, emerging from inefficient, centrally-planned systems, so there was
plenty of untapped potential. Still, their success should not be
underestimated.
The Baltic states, after breaking away from the former Soviet Union, had
to set up public institutions from scratch, while having to overcome the
collapse of Russian markets. Meanwhile, Croatia was coping with the
aftermath of the bloody Bosnian conflict of 1991-1995, and Bulgaria and
Romania were weak states.
HSBC attributes the success of the new tigers to their zeal for economic
reform. While central European countries such as Poland showed a
diminishing appetite for reform, a byword for austerity programmes, the
new tigers have yet to hit the wall.
The prospect of EU membership also acted as a spur to whip their economies
into shape. Only Estonia received an invitation to open negotiations for
EU accession in 1997, giving the others had plenty of incentive to put
their economic houses in order to prepare the ground for entry into the EU
club.
The reward for economic reform has been increasing direct foreign
investment at the expense of central european countries such as Hungary
and Poland.
This not only provides a short-term stimulus for growth, but implies
expanding manufacturing capacity, which is why we believe that this region
will continue to grow rapidly over the medium term, says HSBC in a
research note.
Another key advantage the new tigers have enjoyed is that they did not
hitch their economic wagons to the stagnant German economy.
Instead, the Baltic states trade much more with Scandinavia. Italy, which
should escape recession this year, is an important market for the Balkan
countries, which also export heavily to the former Yugoslavia and Turkey.
In addition, the new tigers have all benefited from exports to Russia,
which is currently enjoying an economic rebound.
But - and there is usually a but - the new tigers suffer from big current
account deficits (the broadest measure of trade). This is something of
particular concern to the International Monetary Fund.
The IMF warns that they have to carefully watch government spending and
tax cut commitments in order to meet balanced budget targets, as these are
key to retaining investor confidence.
However, HSBC takes a bullish attitude even here, arguing that these
current account deficits have been caused largely by the private sector:
namely, equipment imported by private companies. Since such imports will
eventually boost exports growth, they should be viewed as positive in the
long run, it argues.
In a continent marked by lacklustre economic performance, new Europe's new
tigers provide about the only bright spot. Maybe their vigour will rub off
on the larger euroland economies.
· Mark Tran is Guardian Unlimited's business editor

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Re: quote du jour

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
It's from the movie Pumping Iron, as quoted by MS SLATE. The film also shows Ah-nold 
smoking pot. 
-- Jim

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source, please.

max

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James
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I was always dreaming about very powerful people, dictators, people
like Jesus, being remembered for thousands of years. -- Arnold
Schwartzenegger


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Re: The Road to Serfdom

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
JKS refers to  the well worn territory of how markets are BAD

actually, my understanding is that (except for Mike B), the main trend of the 
anti-market socialism side was not  that markets are BAD. (Could you name someone 
who says that markets are evil?) Rather, it was that real-world markets do not 
correspond to the textbook ideal of markets, which doesn't exist in reality, while 
real-world markets have a large number of imperfections that prevent them from serving 
socialist-democratic goals. It's the pro-market socialism side that puts forth that 
markets are good, or at least better than central planning, which is BAD. Frankly, I 
think that the whole plan vs. market discussion misses the point (i.e., the need for 
democracy as part of the abolition of class and to avoid the inequality-generating 
characteristics of both markets and central plans).

Rather than discussing market socialism, I think it would be worth pen-l's while to 
discuss Charlie Andrews' proposal for competing not-for-profit enterprises (in his 
FROM CAPITALISM TO EQUALITY). Maybe Charlie could be dragooned into participating.

Jim

 

 

 




Re: The Road to Serfdom

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
I don't want to get into defending Charlie Andrews' concepts (since I don't agree with 
them completely). But the idea involves not profit-max but minimization of costs, 
subject to constraints imposed by the democratically-run government and the system of 
enterprise governance that Charlie describes. If I were to point to an analogy, it 
wouldn't be China but to the non-profit foundation sector in the US. Obviously, that 
sector serves those who donate money, but in Charlie's scheme, that sector is 
different.
Jim

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Jim, the notion of competing enterprises was precisely at the heart of
the Chinese position in the early days of reform.  But how do you
promote competition, well you need some sort of profit inducement.  So,
early on the Chinese encouraged firms to operate independently and
pursue profits.  But, competition also means change and response to
market needs.  Thus, critical to the entire process is labor market
flexibility, or the freedom for management to hire and fire workers.
In fact, the Chinese state encouraged foreign investment at each stage
of the reform process, including joint ventures pretty early in the
process, because it saw foreign capital as setting the basis for
capitalist labor relations and encouraging profit maximizing in the
state sector.

In short, based on my study of the Chinese experience, while there were
some in the state that just supported growing marketization for their
own gain, there were many in the party that saw the need to overcome
problems of imbalance and inefficiency from the Mao era and sought to
do so by encouraging competition between firms and this lead step by
step to promotion of profits, and the creation of a labor market and ...

Marty

Quoting Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Rather than discussing market socialism, I think it would be worth
 pen-l's while to discuss Charlie Andrews' proposal for competing
 not-for-profit enterprises (in his FROM CAPITALISM TO EQUALITY).
 Maybe Charlie could be dragooned into participating.

 Jim












Two new books of note

2003-08-14 Thread Louis Proyect
The American Axis: Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, and the Rise of the Third
Reich
By Max Wallace
ISBN: 0312290225
Format: Hardcover, 416pp
Pub. Date: July 2003  Publisher: St. Martin's Press
Barnes  Noble Sales Rank: 341,138
Kirkus Reviews
Whisper an antiwar sentiment today, and you're branded a traitor. Hinder
the Allied war effort and champion the Nazi cause, as did a captain of
industry and a pioneer of aviation, and you'll be remembered as a hero. So
Wallace, a researcher for Steven Spielberg's Shoah Project, demonstrates in
this eye-opening if sometimes circumstantial account of automaker Henry
Ford's and pilot Charles Lindbergh's multifaceted dealings with the Hitler
regime. Ford was singularly instrumental, Wallace charges, with Hitler's
rise; not only did Hitler and other Nazis credit their conversion to
anti-Semitism in part to Ford's scurrilous The International Jew, but Ford
also funded the early Nazi party unstintingly and, knowingly or not, gave
Nazi operatives access to manufacturing specifications and other documents
at least until America entered the war. Hitler himself said, I regard
Henry Ford as my inspiration, not least for providing a model of mass
production for the Nazi killing machine. Direct evidence of Ford's
financial role in bringing Hitler to power is scanty, Wallace writes, a
significant amount of the [Ford Motor] company's early days-particularly
material pertaining to Ford's anti-Semitism having been carefully
discarded. Lindbergh, famed for his transatlantic solo flight, brought
pseudoscientific theories of eugenics to his own admiration for the Nazi
regime, and the Nazis reciprocated by depicting the blond, blue-eyed
Lindbergh as the exemplar of Aryan manhood. Strangely, by Wallace's
account, both men seemed mystified when the Roosevelt administration did
not court their services at the outbreak of WWII, on which occasion Ford
remarked, The whole thing has just been made up by Jewbankers. Though
Lindbergh served as a consultant to Ford in the development of the B-24
bomber, he was unable to gain a military commission-and for good reason,
inasmuch as even in 1945 he was publicly lamenting the destruction of
Germany, a civilization that was basically our own, stemming from the same
Christian beliefs. A finely wrought, careful, and utterly damning case
that ought to prompt a widespread reevaluation of both Ford and Lindbergh.


Seven Myths of the Spanish Conquest
By Matthew Restall
ISBN: 0195160770
Format: Hardcover, 218pp
Pub. Date: July 2003
Kirkus Reviews
Provocative if dry essay in New World historiography, gainsaying a large
body of received wisdom. Over the last half-century, many writers on the
Spanish conquest of the Americas have confronted such thorny problems as
the Black Legend and the demography of the pre-Columbian hemisphere,
dispelling once-prevailing notions about, for example, why Coronado found
so few Indians on his trip across the Great Plains and why Montezuma's
Mexico fell so quickly to Cortez and company. But many of those notions
remain, writes Restall (History/Penn. State Univ.), even in such
contemporary texts as the supposedly iconoclastic works of Tzvetan Todorov
and Kirkpatrick Sale. Using the word loosely enough to give folklorists
fits, Restall brands as myth the idea, for instance, that a mere handful
of conquistadors took down Mexico and Peru, and the concomitant canard that
the Indians thought that the Spanish were strange gods from across the sea.
The Spanish were indeed few, he acknowledges, but backed by great numbers
of Indian allies and, more to the point, by non-Spanish conquistadors,
particularly black Africans like Juan Garcia, who hauled a comfortable
amount of gold to Spain from Peru and lived well thereafter. There was no
apotheosis, he adds, no 'belief that the Spaniards are gods,' and no
resulting native paralysis. Some of these myths, Restall holds, came from
the pens of Columbus and certain of his contemporaries, who had an
understandable interest in promoting themselves as lone heroes; others came
from the likes of Washington Irving, whose romantic views of Columbus the
visionary entered the historical record in the 19th century and have been
hard to root out ever since. Restall's alternative history of the Conquest
emphasizes the multiethnic nature of the newcomers and the practicality of
those who ceded land and wealth to them. For specialists, mainly, though
useful to those interested in how empires-and myths-are made.


Louis Proyect, Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org


Re: Guardian Unlimited | The Guardian | Study of Bush's psyche touches a nerve

2003-08-14 Thread Doug Henwood
Devine, James wrote:

what kind of neurosis -- or psychosis -- do we leftists suffer from?
Moral masochism? Self-denial, self-marginalization, and love of suffering?


Re: Guardian Unlimited | The Guardian | Study of Bush's psyche touches a nerve

2003-08-14 Thread Doug Henwood
Devine, James wrote:

I wrote:

 what kind of neurosis -- or psychosis -- do we leftists suffer from?
Doug:
 Moral masochism? Self-denial, self-marginalization, and love
 of suffering?
strength of character, an unwillingness to sacrifice principle to
the demands of the moment? an ability to understand that even though
the world as we know it is a bucket of sh*t, it could be better?
commitment to working together with others rather than succumbing to
narrow-minded greed or narcissistic depression?
Probably both Doug  I are right.
We both are. I was just being gloomy.


Re: Guardian Unlimited | The Guardian | Study of Bush's psyche touches a nerve

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
what kind of neurosis -- or psychosis -- do we leftists suffer from? 


Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




 -Original Message-
 From: ravi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:27 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PEN-L] Guardian Unlimited | The Guardian | Study of Bush's
 psyche touches a nerve
 
 
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1017505,00.html
 
 Study of Bush's psyche touches a nerve
 
 Julian Borger in Washington
 Wednesday August 13, 2003
 The Guardian
 
 A study funded by the US government has concluded that 
 conservatism can
 be explained psychologically as a set of neuroses rooted in fear and
 aggression, dogmatism and the intolerance of ambiguity.
 
 As if that was not enough to get Republican blood boiling, 
 the report's
 four authors linked Hitler, Mussolini, Ronald Reagan and the rightwing
 talkshow host, Rush Limbaugh, arguing they all suffered from the same
 affliction.
 
 All of them preached a return to an idealised past and condoned
 inequality.
 
 Republicans are demanding to know why the psychologists behind the
 report, Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition, received
 $1.2m in public funds for their research from the National Science
 Foundation and the National Institutes of Health.
 
 The authors also peer into the psyche of President George Bush, who
 turns out to be a textbook case. The telltale signs are his preference
 for moral certainty and frequently expressed dislike of nuance.
 
 This intolerance of ambiguity can lead people to cling to 
 the familiar,
 to arrive at premature conclusions, and to impose simplistic 
 cliches and
 stereotypes, the authors argue in the Psychological Bulletin.
 
 One of the psychologists behind the study, Jack Glaser, said the
 aversion to shades of grey and the need for closure could 
 explain the
 fact that the Bush administration ignored intelligence that 
 contradicted
 its beliefs about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.
 
 The authors, presumably aware of the outrage they were likely to
 trigger, added a disclaimer that their study does not mean that
 conservatism is pathological or that conservative beliefs are
 necessarily false.
 
 Another author, Arie Kruglanski, of the University of 
 Maryland, said he
 had received hate mail since the article was published, but 
 he insisted
 that the study is not critical of conservatives at all. 
 The variables
 we talk about are general human dimensions, he said. These are the
 same dimensions that contribute to loyalty and commitment to 
 the group.
 Liberals might be less intolerant of ambiguity, but they may be less
 decisive, less committed, less loyal.
 
 But what drives the psychologists? George Will, a Washington Post
 columnist who has long suffered from ingrained conservatism, noted,
 tartly: The professors have ideas; the rest of us have emanations of
 our psychological needs and neuroses.
 



Re: split in the humanitarian imperialist camp

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
you're right, but it's quite possible that the growing quagmire in Iraq (and 
Afghanistan) will make any further interventions very expensive. 


Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




 -Original Message-
 From: Carrol Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 8:51 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PEN-L] split in the humanitarian imperialist camp
 
 
 Devine, James wrote:
 
  Iraq has wrecked our case for humanitarian wars
 
  The US neo-cons have broken the Kosovo liberal intervention 
 consensus
 
  David Clark
 
 
  As long as US power remains in the hands of the Republican right, it
  will be impossible to build a consensus on the left behind 
 the idea that
  it can be a power for good. Those who continue to insist 
 that it can,
  risk discrediting the concept of humanitarian intervention 
 and thereby
  render impossible the task of mobilising the international 
 community to
  act in the future.
 
 But after a Democratic victory in the U.S. in 2004 or 2008, and this
 same aggressive policy is carried out with more sophisticated rhetoric
 and a visible blunting of brutality _on the surface_ (I am thinking
 partly of the use to which Carter's campaign for human rights 
 was put),
 _then_ these temporary opponents of humanitarian intervention can once
 more happily and contentedly rally around the flag.
 
 Carrol
 
 
  Indeed, the backlash has already started. At last
  month's conference on progressive governance, the assembled leaders
  rejected the section of Blair's draft communique supporting the
  principle that the responsibility to protect trumps state 
 sovereignty.
 
  The problem is this: the interventionists who supported the Iraq war
  want those of us who didn't to believe that George Bush is a useful
  idiot in the realisation of Blair's humanitarian global 
 vision. We can
  only see truth in the opposite conclusion.
 
  * David Clark is a former Foreign Office special adviser.
 



Re: Buffett joins team Terminator

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
I have believed from Day 1 that the White House is involved [in organizing 
the recall against California Gov. Davis], long-time
Davis adviser Garry South said. No one can convince me that if Karl
Rove did not want it to happen that he couldn't call off the dogs, he
said, referring to Mr. Bush's political adviser.

This ignores the fact that the GOP in California has a big component of 
ultra-rightists who may be ideologically pleasant to Rove, Cheney, and their Bush, but 
is self-destructive and therefore pragmatically unacceptable. I don't think Darrell 
Issa -- the guy who got this circus started -- was responding to the White House's 
instructions.
Jim



a thought

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
pen-l is pretty quiet today, so:

If Cher were to marry U-2's Bono, together they'd make a complete
person.


Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine



Guardian Unlimited | The Guardian | Study of Bush's psyche touches a nerve

2003-08-14 Thread ravi
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1017505,00.html

Study of Bush's psyche touches a nerve

Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday August 13, 2003
The Guardian

A study funded by the US government has concluded that conservatism can
be explained psychologically as a set of neuroses rooted in fear and
aggression, dogmatism and the intolerance of ambiguity.

As if that was not enough to get Republican blood boiling, the report's
four authors linked Hitler, Mussolini, Ronald Reagan and the rightwing
talkshow host, Rush Limbaugh, arguing they all suffered from the same
affliction.

All of them preached a return to an idealised past and condoned
inequality.

Republicans are demanding to know why the psychologists behind the
report, Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition, received
$1.2m in public funds for their research from the National Science
Foundation and the National Institutes of Health.

The authors also peer into the psyche of President George Bush, who
turns out to be a textbook case. The telltale signs are his preference
for moral certainty and frequently expressed dislike of nuance.

This intolerance of ambiguity can lead people to cling to the familiar,
to arrive at premature conclusions, and to impose simplistic cliches and
stereotypes, the authors argue in the Psychological Bulletin.

One of the psychologists behind the study, Jack Glaser, said the
aversion to shades of grey and the need for closure could explain the
fact that the Bush administration ignored intelligence that contradicted
its beliefs about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

The authors, presumably aware of the outrage they were likely to
trigger, added a disclaimer that their study does not mean that
conservatism is pathological or that conservative beliefs are
necessarily false.

Another author, Arie Kruglanski, of the University of Maryland, said he
had received hate mail since the article was published, but he insisted
that the study is not critical of conservatives at all. The variables
we talk about are general human dimensions, he said. These are the
same dimensions that contribute to loyalty and commitment to the group.
Liberals might be less intolerant of ambiguity, but they may be less
decisive, less committed, less loyal.

But what drives the psychologists? George Will, a Washington Post
columnist who has long suffered from ingrained conservatism, noted,
tartly: The professors have ideas; the rest of us have emanations of
our psychological needs and neuroses.


Re: Michael Yates on Orthodox Economics vs Marxism, and more

2003-08-14 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Sounds really great... if only I could get my PC speakers to work again...

J.

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Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 12:15 AM
Subject: [PEN-L] Michael Yates on Orthodox Economics vs Marxism, and more


 Michael Yates was interviewed today on our program
 Living Room -- the archived audio can be found at
 www.livingroomradio.org -- on why Marxism has greater
 explanatory power than neoclassical economics (see
 below).  And although he was on NPR's Talk of the
 Nation last week, we had booked him long before that!


 Other currently archived shows that might interest
 people are programs on the International Longshore and
 Warehouse Union's organization of agricultural labor
 in Hawaii; Israeli scholar Baruch Kimmerling on Israel
 and Ariel Sharon; Bertolt Brecht; Marx and Freud; the
 Jewish and Palestinian editors of Between the Lines on
 what's wrong with the Left in Israel and Palestine;
 Robin DG Kelley on his book Freedom Dreams; myths
 about the decline of the family; limiting the work
 week; and much more.


 Wed 8.13.03| Orthodox Economics vs. Marxism

 Neoliberal prescriptions applied around the globe have
 left many progressives skeptical of orthodox economic
 theory. And yet what alternative theories exist? Labor
 economist Michael Yates argues that Marxism provides
 us with a means of understanding our world, with all
 its poverty and inequality, in a way that isn't
 abstracted from reality


 Sasha Lilley
 Producer, KPFA's Living Room
 510/848-6767 x209
 www.livingroomradio.org


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Kosovo/Iraq

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
A pattern of aggression

Iraq was not the first illegal US-led attack on a sovereign state in
recent times. The precedent was set in 1999 in Yugoslavia writes Kate
Hudson

Kate Hudson

Thursday August 14, 2003

The Guardian

The legality of the war against Iraq remains the focus of intense debate
- as is the challenge it poses to the post-second-world-war order, based
on the inviolability of sovereign states. That challenge, however, is
not a new one. The precursor is without doubt Nato's 1999 attack on
Yugoslavia, also carried out without UN support. Look again at how the
US and its allies behaved then, and the pattern is unmistakable.

Yugoslavia was a sovereign state with internationally recognised
borders; an unsolicited intervention in its internal affairs was
excluded by international law. The US-led onslaught was therefore
justified as a humanitarian war - a concept that most international
lawyers regarded as having no legal standing (the Commons foreign
affairs select committee described it as of dubious legality). The
attack was also outside Nato's own remit as a defensive organisation -
its mission statement was later rewritten to allow for such actions.

In Yugoslavia, as in Iraq, the ultimate goal of the aggressor nations
was regime change. In Iraq, the justification for aggression was the
possession of weapons of mass destruction; in Yugoslavia, it was the
prevention of a humanitarian crisis and genocide in Kosovo. In both
cases, the evidence for such accusations has been lacking: but while
this is now widely accepted in relation to Iraq, the same is not true of
Yugoslavia.

In retrospect, it has become ever clearer that the justification for war
was the result of a calculated provocation - and manipulation of the
legitimate grievances of the Kosovan Albanians - in an already tense
situation within the Yugoslav republic of Serbia. The constitutional
status of Kosovo had been long contested and the case for greater
Kosovan Albanian self-government had been peacefully championed by the
Kosovan politician, Ibrahim Rugova.

In 1996, however, the marginal secessionist group, the Kosovo Liberation
Army, stepped up its violent campaign for Kosovan independence and
launched a series of assassinations of policemen and civilians in
Kosovo, targeting not only Serbs, but also Albanians who did not support
the KLA. The Yugoslav government branded the KLA a terrorist
organisation - a description also used by US officials. As late as the
beginning of 1998, Robert Gelbard, US special envoy to Bosnia, declared:
The UCK (KLA) is without any question a terrorist group.

KLA attacks drew an increasingly heavy military response from Yugoslav
government forces and in the summer of 1998 a concerted offensive
against KLA strongholds began. In contrast to its earlier position, the
US administration now threatened to bomb Yugoslavia unless the
government withdrew its forces from the province, verified by the
Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE). The US was
now clearly determined to remove Milosevic, who was obstructing
Yugoslavia's integration into the western institutional and economic
framework.

Agreement was reached in October 1998 and 1,000 OSCE observers went to
Kosovo to oversee the withdrawal of government troops. But the KLA used
the pullback to renew armed attacks. In January 1999 an alleged massacre
of 45 Kosovan Albanians by Yugoslav government forces took place at
Racak. Both at the time and subsequently, evidence has been
contradictory and fiercely contested as to whether the Racak victims
were civilians or KLA fighters and whether they died in a firefight or
close-range shootings.

Nevertheless, Racak was seized on by the US to justify acceleration
towards war. In early 1999, the OSCE reported that the current security
environment in Kosovo is characterised by the disproportionate use of
force by the Yugoslav authorities in response to persistent attacks and
provocations by the Kosovan Albanian paramilitaries. But when the
Rambouillet talks convened in February 1999, the KLA was accorded the
status of national leader. The Rambouillet text, proposed by the then US
secretary of state, Madeleine Albright, included a wide range of
freedoms and immunities for Nato forces within Yugoslavia that amounted
to an effective occupation. Even the former US secretary of state, Henry
Kissinger, described it as a provocation, an excuse to start bombing.
The Yugoslavs refused to sign, so bombing began on March 24 1999.

Despite claims by western leaders that Yugoslav forces were conducting
genocide against the Kosovan Albanians, reports of mass killings and
atrocities - such as the supposed concealment of 700 murdered Kosovan
Albanians in the Trepca mines - were often later admitted to be wrong.
Atrocities certainly were carried out by both Serb and KLA forces. But
investigative teams did not find evidence of the scale of dead or
missing claimed at the time, responsibility for which was attributed 

Re: Guardian Unlimited | The Guardian | Study of Bush's psyche touches a nerve

2003-08-14 Thread Dan Scanlan
Devine, James wrote:
 what kind of neurosis -- or psychosis -- do we leftists suffer from?

self-importance? determinism? is that a neurosis?

--ravi


When I told my psychiatrist I was having an identity crisis, he said,
Just who in the hell do you think you are?
Dan Scanlan


Re: Guardian Unlimited | The Guardian | Study of Bush's psyche touches a nerve

2003-08-14 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
 what kind of neurosis -- or psychosis -- do we leftists suffer from?

- we are not worthy, we are not worthy

J.


Re: Guardian Unlimited | The Guardian | Study of Bush's psyche touches a nerve

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Jim wrote:

Hmm... how would Lenin score?

Any guy allowing himself to be photographed scratching a cat, with his
legs crossed, is flexible on your F-scale.

Ken.

--
The awareness of the ambiguity of one's highest
achievements (as well as one's deepest failures)
is a definite symptom of maturity.
  -- Paul Tillich


Unique tobacco co. sales channels -- part II

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Ottawa back in court against tobacco firms

By KIM LUNMAN
Globe and Mail Update
Aug. 14, 2003


OTTAWA — The federal government resurrected its legal battle against Big
Tobacco yesterday to recover $1.5-billion in taxes it claims it lost to
a cigarette smuggling scam during the early 1990s.

We allege [the tobacco companies] devised and implemented a scheme to
make illicit profits out of the smuggling trade, said Gordon Bourgard,
a Justice Department spokesman.

The lawsuit, filed in Ontario Superior Court in Toronto, alleges that
R.J. Reynolds and Japan Tobacco groups of companies were behind the
scheme. The companies named as defendants include: R.J. Reynolds Tobacco
Holdings Inc., R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co., R.J. Reynolds Tobacco
International Inc., JTI-Macdonald Corp., Northern Brands International
Inc., Japan Tobacco Inc., JT International SA, JTI-Macdonald TM Corp.,
JT Canada LLC II Inc., JT Canada LLC Inc., JT International Holding
B.V., JT International B.V. and JT International (BVI) Canada Inc.

In a statement issued last night, JTI-Macdonald Corp. called the
government's latest lawsuit ill conceived, noting that it had already
spent $20-million on a similar claim in the United States that was
dismissed.

These worn-out allegations are being pumped up by an overzealous
antitobacco lobby whose very existence depends on repeatedly attacking
the Canadian tobacco industry.

In December of 1999, Ottawa filed a lawsuit in the United States against
RJR-Macdonald Inc., claiming $1-billion (U.S.) in lost tax revenue
stemming from alleged cigarette smuggling by RJR affiliates. The U.S.
Federal Court dismissed the suit, stating that U.S. courts can't be used
to collect taxes for another country. A U.S. appeals court later
declined to hear the case and a final appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court
was rejected last November.

The new lawsuit alleges that the defendants used the St. Regis
Mohawk/Akwesasne reserve on the Canada-U.S. border as a funnel for the
smuggling of RJR-Macdonald's tobacco products.

The conspirators [RJR-Macdonald and RJR International] agreed and
conspired together to implement an unlawful scheme, the purpose of which
was to injure the plaintiff, deprive the plaintiff of excise and import
tax revenues and force the rollback of Canadian excise taxes and
duties.

In the early 1990s, increased taxes in Canada doubled the price of
cigarettes.

Tobacco products cost half as much in the United States, creating a huge
black market for the product.

This is good news, said Garfield Mahood, executive director of the
Non-Smokers' Rights Association, which has been lobbying the government
to pursue the case. The health community is extremely pleased the
Attorney-General has filed this lawsuit.

In March, eight top tobacco executives with JTI-Macdonald Corp.
(formerly known as RJR-Macdonald) were charged in Toronto with fraud and
conspiracy after a four-year RCMP investigation into what has been
described as an unholy alliance between the tobacco giant and
smugglers.

Ottawa launched the first lawsuit with fanfare in late 1999, alleging
that the company ran a vast illegal smuggling operation designed to
thwart federal efforts to deter Canadian teens from smoking.

According to court documents, Ottawa alleges that the tobacco company
and related firms began extensive smuggling operations in the early
1990s that involved shipping products to the United States and then
smuggling them into Canada through the St. Regis Mohawk reservation.

Mohawk territory -- the St. Regis reservation in New York state, the
Akwesasne reserve on the Canadian side -- straddles the international
border and the Quebec-Ontario boundary.


more California mayhem

2003-08-14 Thread Eubulides
California investigates US banks' tax shelters

David Teather in New York
Friday August 8, 2003
The Guardian

Some of the biggest banks in the US have avoided paying hundreds of millions of 
dollars in
state tax by shifting money into investment funds that did little more than provide 
shelters
from the taxman, it was claimed yesterday.

According to a report in the Wall Street Journal, at least ten large financial 
institutions in
1999 and 2000 moved more than $17bn into the funds that did not sell shares but paid 
tax-exempt
dividends back to the banks.

Bank of America transferred at least $8bn into one fund, protecting $750m of income, 
the report
said.

Funds of this kind need at least 100 shareholders, according to securities and exchange
commission rules. In an apparent effort to meet the obligation, the Bank of America 
subsidiary
distributed shares to 125 charities.

The banks argue that the funds were legitimate means of raising investment capital.

Many of the funds have been closed and state officials in cash-strapped California are 
looking
into whether they are owed back taxes.

The funds came under the microscope after California officials received complaints, 
including
an anonymous letter they believe came from within KPMG.

In all but one case, the funds were set up on the advice of accounting firm KPMG, 
which is
already under scrutiny by the inland revenue service for its tax shelter policies. A 
spokesman
yesterday stood by the investment vehicles.

California law fully supports the tax results associated with the planning involving 
regulated
investment companies.

He said an audit by the state of the funds is the appropriate forum to study the tax
consequences of these legitimate business transactions. Ultimately the tax consequences
associated with the transactions will be sustained.

The other banks named in the Journal include Washington Mutual, Summit Bancorp, Zions 
First
National Bank and East-West Bancorp. A spokesman for Bank of America said that its 
fund in
question had been liquidated in the normal course of business and it had been a 
legitimate
means of bank funding and a vehicle for public offerings.

He also noted that the bank's 2002 tax bill in California was $180m, one of the 
highest in the
state.

California revenue officials said a sampling of tax returns from just a handful of the 
banks
showed that the investment funds had cut their tax liability by $46m.

California controller Steve Westly told the Guardian: We do not believe this is 
appropriate.
This is something we need to fix.


Globalised shipping torpedoed by court

2003-08-14 Thread Grant Lee
smh.com.au - The Sydney Morning HeraldBy John Garnaut

August 8, 2003

Paying foreign shipping crews foreign wages while working Australian waters,
a cost-cutting scheme defended by the Howard Government, was sinking fast
after a union victory yesterday.

In a unanimous decision, the High Court ruled that two Canadian-controlled,
Bahamas-registered and Ukrainian-crewed ships working in domestic waters
fall under the jurisdiction of an Australian tribunal.

The Australian Industrial Relations Commission may now consider an
application for the crews of the cement cargo vessel CSL Pacific to be
protected by Australian pay and conditions.

If the commission accepts the application - which lawyers yesterday said was
likely - the ship's owner, CSL Group, could be forced to lift wages for its
foreign workers from $19,600 to the local rate of $52,100 while carting
cargo between domestic ports.

* * * *

CSL bought the two ships from the Government-owned shipping line ANL.
The decision is the climax in a long-running controversy involving Canadian
politics, Caribbean tax havens and international wage and safety standards.

The CSL Group was owned by Paul Martin, a controversial former Canadian
finance minister before he passed ownership to his sons earlier this year.

* * * *

Copyright   2003. The Sydney Morning Herald.


imf-usa 'consultation'

2003-08-14 Thread Eubulides
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/scr/2003/cr03244.pdf

More at:

http://www.imf.org/


Background of David Kay

2003-08-14 Thread k hanly
Interesting that when it was announced that David Kay a former UN weapons
inspector was hired by the US to look for weapons in Iraq there is zilch
about questionable parts of his background. For one thing he has absolutely
no training as a scientist. Secondly, he admitted in effect making a
Faustian bargain with US intelligence sources. He was fired by Blix and
consequently vilified him.

Cheers, Ken Hanly

http://www.wanniski.com/showarticle.asp?articleid=2728


Re: The Road to Serfdom

2003-08-14 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Shit, Justin, if this keeps up, Condoleeza is going to throw her handbag at
me. Point is, can we not find an axis of discussion (a mode of discussion)
that would be amenable or palatable to Michael P. ? It's his list, I'm a
guest, I don't want to piss him off, we need Michael P. But there may be
another angle of discussing the topic, PEN-Lers are always so good at this,
at a different take on the same subject?

Yes, the weather is improving. There is a difference in the heterodox
socialist lexicon between (1) Greenies, (2) Greens and (3) the Green Party
(4) The Irish Republican Movement.

Jurriaan

- Original Message -
From: andie nachgeborenen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] The Road to Serfdom


 You're not going to get  anywhere with this, Micahel P
 will not allow this to proceed. That markets are BAD
 is axiomatic, it's not up for discussion. I am not
 permited to dispute the proposition, and neither are
 you. This is a market-free zone, a litle space where
 leftist economists can gather safe in the quieta
 ssurance that everyoneelse agrees that the only things
 to be said about markets are that they are
 exploitative and ineffective and wasteful, and we can
 all laugh at the market worshippers in the rest of the
 economics community. We all repeat variations on this
 mantra and never have to face any criticism of it
 here. It's so obvious that it's not even allowed to be
 disputed. I hope we are all clear on this now. So shut
 up, and talk about something that reasonable people
 can disagree about. Speaking for Michael, if I may,
 I'm cuttting this discussion off NOW. No more. End of
 story. Full stop. Period.

 Nice weather we're having this summer, eh?

 jks

 --- Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  But that is crazy. Not all markets are bad ! Marx
  did not argue this, nor
  did any Marxist revolutionary who actually was
  involved in a successful
  revolution. If you did argue this, then that would
  imply capitalism has
  meant no economic progress at all in any way, which
  is a ridiculous and
  undialectical view.
 
  I would say that this general dogma or prejudice
  about markets are bad was
  responsible for not a few economic disasters in the
  USSR and China, and it
  hides what the real issue is precisely about, namely
  exactly which property
  relations promote a just and efficient allocation of
  economic resources in
  the given context. It is evident that markets or
  the market is not a
  homogeneous category, but that a wide range of types
  of markets is possible,
  and that what is decisive is the property forms,
  ownership relations, social
  class relations and legal framework within which
  market transactions occur.
 
  In this context, Marx's own argument as I understand
  it is essentially (1)
  about the generalisation (universalisation) and
  overextension of markets
  based on bourgeois private property relations, which
  acquires an objective,
  independent, reified dynamic, causing a great deal
  of harm to human society,
  as well as developing the productive forces; (2)
  that a dictatorship of the
  proletariat would be able to experiment with a
  variety of property forms,
  in order to discover methods of resource allocation
  which fit best with
  social priorities - an experimentation which cannot
  occur in bourgeois
  society except in a very marginal sense; (3) that
  the historic objective is
  to supplant market allocation increasingly by direct
  methods of allocation
  which are more just, effective and efficient -
  methods which already
  anticipated in society as it exists today in many
  cases.
 
  The loss of this discourse in the socialist movement
  divides radicalism into
  two camps: sectarian socialists jabbering and
  blabbering about reform
  versus revolution without knowing what they are
  talking about, and applying
  wrongheaded critiques of social democracy, on the
  one hand; and Greenies who
  want to introduce all sorts of alternatives with a
  deformed view of what
  markets are, and how they really function in
  capitalist society, abstracting
  from the relations of social classes in so doing.
  If this situation continues, we might as well kiss
  socialism goodbye.
 
  Jurriaan
 
  - Original Message -
  From: andie nachgeborenen
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 4:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [PEN-L] The Road to Serfdom
 
 
   You don't understand. There are two thins Michael
  has
   forbidden on pen-l. One is rudeness. The other is
   discussion of market socialism. Markets are BAD,
  that
   is settled, leftist economists don't have to think
   about that any more -- and on pen-l, they can't
  talk
   about it. I am too tired and busy to talk about it
   anymore anyway. jks


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Re: Martix for price discrimination

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
but there must be exceptions to that law or price discrimination wouldn't be so 
common. Perhaps the economist's definition of price discrimination differs from the 
lawyer's? the former would include senior discounts at movie theaters, coupons at 
grocery stores, etc., etc. 
Jim

-Original Message- 
From: andie nachgeborenen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Fri 8/8/2003 2:58 PM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Martix for price discrimination



Price discrimination is an antitrust violation -- the
statute is the Robinson-Patman Act -- that can expose
the defendant to treble damages in a civil action, and
even if you win you have to pay me, or someone like
me, really godawful amounts of money to get you off.
(This is in fact largely what I do for a living.) So,
the citizen plaintiff is not without recourse! jks


--- michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anon. 2003. Is Price Discrimination The Next Big
 Trend In Commerce?
 San Jose Mercury News (7 August).
 The Internet also gives sellers more information
 about consumers than
 ever before -- how many products they buy and when,
 perhaps even how
 many each can afford.  Eventually, two people might
 get the same pop-up
 ad for the same Zippo lighter, but one ad pitches
 them for $15 while
 another says they're $10.
 This vision of the Internet is the basis of a new
 analysis from Andrew
 Odlyzko, a former Bell Labs mathematician now at the
 University of
 Minnesota's Digital Technology Center.  Odlyzko
 expects price
 discrimination to become more pervasive not only
 because so much
 personal data is being collected in online commerce
 but also as
 technology, in the name of protecting copyrights,
 limits what people can
 do with online content.
 a few years ago, Coca-Cola Co. experimented with a
 vending machine that
 automatically raised prices in hot weather.
 the economy could suffer if technology helps
 suppliers engage in price
 discrimination against producers of important goods
 and services.

http://www.dtc.umn.edu/7/8odlyzko/doc/privacy.economics.pdf


 --

 Michael Perelman
 Economics Department
 California State University
 michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
 Chico, CA 95929
 530-898-5321
 fax 530-898-5901


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Re: Martix for price discrimination

2003-08-14 Thread andie nachgeborenen
--- andie nachgeborenen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Of course there are ways around such laws. That's
 what
 they pay me all this money for! But they are not
 foolproof, and litigation is a cost (a very
 substantial cost -- they do pay us lots and los of
 money) ans also a risk. You might lose and get stuck
 with treble damages. That would be very bad. jks

 --- Found this: on the cost of litigating a price
discrimination lawsuit. This is very low end. I will
about $250/hr. Senior partners at my firm bill
$500/hr+:

http://www.lawmall.com/rpa/rpaexpen.html

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'clean' diamonds

2003-08-14 Thread Eubulides
[Federal Register: August 11, 2003 (Volume 68, Number 154)]
[Notices]
[Page 47626-47627]
From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov]
[DOCID:fr11au03-109]


[[Page 47626]]

===
---

DEPARTMENT OF STATE

[Public Notice 4438]


Bureau of Economic and Business Affairs; Participating Countries
(Hereinafter Known as ``Participants'') Eligible for Trade in Rough
Diamonds under the Clean Diamond Trade Act (Pub. L 108-19) and Section
2 of Executive Order 13312 of July 29, 2003

AGENCY: Department of State.

ACTION: Notice.

---

SUMMARY: In accordance with Sections 3 and 6 of the Clean Diamond Trade
Act (Pub. L. 108-19) and Section 2 of Executive Order 13312 of July 29,
2003, the Department of State is identifying all the Participants
eligible for trade in rough diamonds under the Act, and their
respective Importing and Exporting authorities.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Jay L. Bruns, Special Negotiator for
Conflict Diamonds, Bureau of Economic and Business Affairs, Department
of State, (202) 647-2857.

SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION: Section 4 of the Clean Diamond Trade Act
(the ``Act'') requires the President to prohibit the importation into,
and the exportation from, the United States of any rough diamond, from
whatever source, that has not been controlled through the Kimberley
Process Certification Scheme (KPCS). Under Section 3(2) of the Act,
``controlled through the Kimberley Process Certification Scheme'' means
an importation from the territory of a Participant or exportation to
the territory of a Participant of rough diamonds that is either (i)
Carried out in accordance with the KPCS, as set forth in regulations
promulgated by the President, or (ii) controlled under a system
determined by the President to meet substantially the standards,
practices, and procedures of the KPCS. The referenced regulations are
contained at 31 CFR part 592 (``Rough Diamond Control Regulations'').
Section 6(b) of the Act requires the President to publish in the
Federal Register a list of all Participants, and all Importing and
Exporting Authorities of Participants. Section 2 of Executive Order
13312 of July 29, 2003 delegates this function to the Secretary of
State. Section 3(7) of the Act defines ``Participant'' as a state,
customs territory, or regional economic integration authority
identified by the Secretary of State. Section 3(3) of the Act defines
``Exporting Authority'' as one or more entities designated by a
Participant from whose territory a shipment of rough diamonds is being
exported as having the authority to validate a Kimberley Process
Certificate. Section 3(4) of the Act defines ``Importing Authority'' as
one or more entities designated by a Participant into whose territory a
shipment of rough diamonds is imported as having the authority to
enforce the laws and regulations of the Participant regarding imports,
including the verification of the Kimberley Process Certificate
accompanying the shipment. The List of Participants will be updated
periodically as additional entities meet the requirements of the Act.
Pursuant to Section 3 of the Clean Diamond Trade Act (the Act),
Section 2 of the Executive Order 13312 of July 29, 2003, and Delegation
of Authority No. 245 (April 23, 2001), I hereby identify the following
entities as Participants under section 6(b) of the Act. Included in
this List are the Importing and Exporting Authorities for Participants,
as provided in Section 6(b) of the Act.

List of Participants

Algeria--Ministry of Energy and Mines.
Angola--Ministry of Geology and Mines.
Armenia--Ministry of Trade and Economic Development.
Australia--Export Authority--Department of Industry, Tourism and
Resources; Importing Authority--Australian Customs Service.
Belarus--Department of Finance.
Botswana--Ministry of Minerals, Energy and Water Resources.
Brazil--Ministry of Mines and Metallurgy.
Burkina Faso--Importing and Exporting Authority not currently
available.
Cameroon--Importing and Exporting Authority not currently available.
Canada--Natural Resources Canada.
Central African Republic--Ministry of Energy and Mining.
China--General Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and
Quarantine.
Democratic Republic of the Congo--Ministry of Mines and Hydrocarbons.
Republic of the Congo--Ministry of Mines and Geology.
Cyprus--Importing and Exporting Authority not currently available.
Czech Republic--Ministry of Finance.
European Community--DG/External Relations/A.2.
Gabon--Ministry of Mines, Energy, Oil and Hydraulic Resources.
Ghana--Precious Metals Marketing Company, Limited.
Guinea--Ministry of Mines and Geology.
Guyana--Geology and Mines Commission.
Hungary--Ministry of Economy and Transport.
India--The Gem and Jewellery Export Promotion Council.
Israel--The Diamond 

Re: The Road to Serfdom

2003-08-14 Thread Michael Perelman
Oh, my God!  I opened up that thread again

On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 02:36:51PM -0700, andie nachgeborenen wrote:
 --- Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  In my new book, I have a short section on Mises v.
  Neurath, where the
  dispute began, just as Jim said.  Neurath was a
  plannist-marxist.

 Who thought that the plan should mimic market outcomes
 . . .

 On the basis of actual planning experience in postwar
 Poland, he later became much more of a market
 socialist.

 jks

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Re: quote du jour

2003-08-14 Thread Mike Ballard
--- Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 4. No one could ever meet death for his country
 without the hope of
 immortality.
 - Cicero (Marcus Tullius Cicero), Tusculanarum
 Disputationum (I, 15)
**

I remember Grace Slick singing:  War's good business,
so give your sons, but I'd rather have my country die
for me.  The lyrics were from a song which was on the
Airplane's first or second albumn.

Cheers,
Mike B)

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*
Cognitive dissonance is the inner conflict produced when long-standing beliefs are 
contradicted by new evidence.

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Re: The Road to Serfdom

2003-08-14 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
At 6:28 AM -0700 8/9/03, andie nachgeborenen wrote:
That markets are BAD is axiomatic
The Markets might be Good if they came without Pains of Bankruptcy
and Unemployment.
--
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Re: The Road to Serfdom

2003-08-14 Thread andie nachgeborenen
S'all right, I haven't the time or energy for it
either. jks

--- Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Oh, my God!  I opened up that thread again

 On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 02:36:51PM -0700, andie
 nachgeborenen wrote:
  --- Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   In my new book, I have a short section on Mises
 v.
   Neurath, where the
   dispute began, just as Jim said.  Neurath was a
   plannist-marxist.
 
  Who thought that the plan should mimic market
 outcomes
  . . .
 
  On the basis of actual planning experience in
 postwar
  Poland, he later became much more of a market
  socialist.
 
  jks
 
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query: credit rationing

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
what's a good data series that can be used to measure the degree of bank
(non-interest) credit-rationing in the US?


Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine



Martix for price discrimination

2003-08-14 Thread michael
Anon. 2003. “Is Price Discrimination The Next Big Trend In Commerce?”
San Jose Mercury News (7 August).
“The Internet also gives sellers more information about consumers than
ever before -- how many products they buy and when, perhaps even how
many each can afford.  Eventually, two people might get the same pop-up
ad for the same Zippo lighter, but one ad pitches them for $15 while
another says they're $10.”
“This vision of the Internet is the basis of a new analysis from Andrew
Odlyzko, a former Bell Labs mathematician now at the University of
Minnesota's Digital Technology Center.  Odlyzko expects price
discrimination to become more pervasive not only because so much
personal data is being collected in online commerce but also as
technology, in the name of protecting copyrights, limits what people can
do with online content.”
“a few years ago, Coca-Cola Co. experimented with a vending machine that
automatically raised prices in hot weather.”
“the economy could suffer if technology helps suppliers engage in price
discrimination against producers of important goods and services.”
http://www.dtc.umn.edu/7/8odlyzko/doc/privacy.economics.pdf


--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901



The Road to Serfdom

2003-08-14 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
The real disagreement between Keynes and Hayek was identified by Keynes...
(as being about) the question of knowing where to draw the line between
intervention and non-intervention. Keynes's criticism of Hayek was that he
accepted that the logical extreme of no intervention at all was not
possible, but gave no guidance in The Road to Serfdom as to where the line
should be drawn. This was the same criticism made later by the libertarians.
But unlike them, Keynes thought that it was a matter of practical judgement,
not principle. He acknowledged that Hayek would draw the line differently
than he would, but criticized him for underestimating the practicability for
a middle course. He also argued that since Hayek accepted that a line had to
be drawn, it was disingenuous of him to imply that 'as soon as one moves an
inch in the planned direction you are necessarily launched on the slippery
path which will lead you in due course over the precipice... Keynes proposed
his middle way as a means of harmonizing individualism and socialism'. -
Andrew Gamble, Hayek: The Iron Cage of Liberty. Boulder: Westview Press,
1996, p. 159-160.

Mises main target was Marx and the Marxists. In that sense, his original
article was a further episode in the long-running Methodenstreit. Marx's
refusal to speculate about the form a socialist society would take, struck
Mises as a supreme evasion, and typical of historicism. Marx always refused
to lay down blueprints in the manner of 'utopian socialists' like Owen and
Fourier, on the grounds that principles of organisationwere intimately
related to particular modes of historical organisation, which were always
worked out practically and could only be understood theoretically in
retrospect. This impeccable Hegelianism did not impress Mises, because it
refused to consider the question of how the universal problems of any human
society would be addressed, One consequence of this methodological gulf
between the Austrian school and Marxism was that there was no Marxist
response to Mises. His criticisms were regarded as irrelevant. Bukharin had
already analysed the Austrian school and marginalism as a retreat from
scientific analysis into ideology. Marginalism was dismissed as the ideology
of the rentier class, because it regarded all incomes, including 'unearned
incomes', as equally productive, and therefore legitimate, so long as they
were generated through the market Andrew Gamble, Hayek: The Iron Cage of
Liberty. Boulder: Westview Press, 1996, p. 63.


Re: Serfdom/China

2003-08-14 Thread Mike Ballard
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 8/9/03 1:22:52 PM Pacific
 Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Dear PEN-Listers,
 
  I hate commodity production and I hate the
 marketplace
  of commodities.  They have both outlived their
  usefulness.  Controlled or planned commodity
  production only maintains the agony of
 wage-slavery.
 
 
  For the end of pre-history,
  Mike B)
 
 
 

 Most certainly a sentiment I deeply share. Under
 what conditions is it
 possible to render the commodity form of the social
 product obsolete?
***

Primarily under conditions where the working class is
the overwhelming majority and in that majority becomes
class conscious enough to organise a social revolution
for themselves.  The industrial, productive capacity
for this transition out of commodity production has
been achieved by workers (under the political,
physical and psychological lash of their masters) in
many countries for many decades now.

Best,
Mike B)

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Re: The Road to Serfdom

2003-08-14 Thread Mike Ballard
--- Martin Hart-Landsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In short, based on my study of the Chinese experience,
while there were
some in the state that just supported growing
marketization for their
own gain, there were many in the party that saw the
need to overcome
problems of imbalance and inefficiency from the Mao
era and sought to
do so by encouraging competition between firms and
this lead step by
step to promotion of profits, and the creation of a
labor market and
...

ta-da-doomthe coninuation of wage-slavery,
classes, the State and all the undemocratic baggage
that goes with that sort of political-economy.  Not
that the more Mao inspired system of State controlled
commodity production didn't result in much the same
system with, of course, variations on all the
abovementioned themes.

China is richer these days because the wage-slaves are
more productive than ever.  The same is true for the
USA where according to the New York Times, The
Labor Department reported that productivity -- the
amount that an employee produces per hour of work --
rose at an annual rate of 5.7 percent in the April to
June quarter. That was the best performance since the
third quarter of 2002.  The question is, Who
controls and owns the social product of labour, the
marketeers or the producers?


Best,
Mike B)



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A Cuban revolutionary writes to Joanne Landy

2003-08-14 Thread Louis Proyect
(Eloquent response by a revolutionary Cuban who knows, from his very own 
personal experience what democracy Washington offers to Cubans.

(Particularly pointed for those people on the political left who also 
oppose the Cuban Revolution and advocate the overthrow of the government 
of Cuba, by the workers, of course.)



July 15, 2003

Dear Ms. Joanne Landy:

Being a Cuban revolutionary all of my life, having fought in Angola 
against the South African invasion and being, at the present time, 
incarcerated in a U.S. federal prison for protecting the Cuban people 
from the terrorist actions supported, encouraged and silenced by the 
United States government, I hope that - if being progressive is still to 
fight for a better world - I might be entitled to the benefit of being 
considered a progressive person.

So, when I opened a magazine called precisely, The Progressive, and read 
an ad by the Campaign for Peace and Democracy requesting signatures in 
order to condemn Cuba for its alleged repression on dissidents, I was, 
at best, in disbelief.

I can't imagine that somebody can consider himself a progressive person 
and then take at its word the endemic slandering and lies of the U.S. 
media in regards to Cuba. It would only take a little bit of 
intellectual honesty and some research to discover that the money to pay 
dissidents is appropriated, overtly and openly, by the U.S. 
authorities to be distributed through entities like NED and USAID among 
whomever, on the island, decides to make a living as a dissident.

Who gives any moral authority to the American government to create a 
paid opposition in Cuba? What international principle of law applies to 
this behavior? Since when it is a role of a U.S. diplomat to tour the 
island organizing the opposition and giving out money?

Whoever, in his country, receives money from a foreign power to 
undermine his government, is considered a traitor, be it in Cuba or in 
any other nation of the world, including the United States.

These so-called dissidents have - contrary to what appears in the ad - 
all the right to express their opinions in Cuba. All they have to do is 
to stand up at a nomination meeting and explain to their neighbors that 
they want to take the country back to 1959, return the Cuban land to the 
United Fruit Company, recall the terrorists that now live in Miami to 
the island and give them their properties back, sell the country to the 
transnationals and become themselves the political class who will take 
care of all those people's petty interests. If their neighbors agree 
with them they will be nominated would happen to them for looking stupid 
while expressing their political platform in front of the electorate.

But if they run into a revolutionary constituency - and their neighbors 
are committed to their country and support the government of the people, 
for the people and by the people; and having fought and died for their 
society, don't want to betray the memory of the patriots who have given 
their lives for the sovereignty and independence of Cuba - no 
dissident will be nominated nor will he obtain any vote.

And if they don't deserve the confidence of their people, they don't 
have the right to go to the American embassy - the last place I would 
think of as a haven for democracy - to find a source of sovereignty that 
only lies in the Cubans.

Cuba, for more than 40 years, has faced a state of hostility and war 
that has caused more than 3,000 deaths and more than 2,000 jured on 
account of terrorist and armed actions carried out by traitors paid, 
trained and supplied for by the U.S. government. Those mercenaries were 
dealt with through the legal system. They weren't arbitrarily declared 
enemy or illegal combatants, or disposed of through a drone-launched 
rocket so that Fidel could pose to the cameras declaring them no longer 
a problem, or subjected to secret military tribunals, nor were their 
families' homes demolished by the Cuban military.

They were given sentences according to their involvement in their 
terrorist activities instead of the irrational punishment accorded here 
to the Puerto Rican patriots, just for their affiliation to a given 
organization, or the vindictive treatment given to me and my 
co-defendants for protecting Cuba from those mercenaries who now, with 
their money and connections to the U.S. administration, sponsor schemes 
like the one of the dissidents or the encouragement to illegal 
immigration from Cuba in order to justify the aggressive policy against 
Cuba.

The Cuban people has had no other option than to take their losses and 
to keep building the socialist society that too many have fought for, 
leaving it to history to make us justice and relying on extreme patience 
and enormous courage.

I don't know how many real progressive people are adhering to this 
campaign against Cuba, being things here so relative that somebody can 
be labeled as liberal 

EU research: many workplaces are lethal

2003-08-14 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
UTRECHT - 06/08/03 One in five workers in Europe are exposed in the
workplace to cancer-causing substances. This finding resulted from research
of the European agency for safety and health in the workplace.

Cancers, asthma, eczema and neurological problems are said to be only some
of the risks which could be caused by the 30,000 chemical substances most
often used. About 21 percent of employees comes into contact with substances
such as benzine, organic solvents, vapours which escape in welding projects,
dyes, or crystalline silica which are contained in building materials.

Nearly 22 percent of employees breathes in the mentioned substances, during
at least a quarter of the time at work. Research shows that one-third of the
asthma cases, and 45 percent of cancers, is work-related. The health
problems caused by these substances are estimated to cost 3,5 billion euro.
The substances are said to be the largest single cause of the 350 million
sickdays which are taken annually in the EU.

Translated from: http://www.tiscali.nl/content/article/bin/582602.htm


Re: Reply to an Observer article by the Italian Refounded CP

2003-08-14 Thread Louis Proyect
Kenneth Campbell wrote:
Lou --

I hesitate to write... but I must state...

I know you are smart... But these ambush letters in which you ask a
question and copy it to a list... is not right. Private is private.
I assume that this was meant as a private communication, but I will
answer it publicly since Ken should no better than to start up with me
again. When I threw him off Marxmail for making fun of Mine Doyran's sig
file (but did not do this to Mike Friedman, whose sig file also alludes
to his abd status), he demanded that all his posts be removed from
Marxmail archives. It turns out that he had no legal legs to stand on,
but when he threatened to complain to U. of Utah, we decided to
accomodate him. But to this day, as far as I know, the same stupid
messages with all their smart-alec baiting, are on mail-archive.com. Ken
won't waste time demanding that his messages be removed from that site,
because the owners know their intellectual property law and can't be
bothered by such petty harrassment.
So, go to hell, Ken.

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Andrew Johnson impeachment and the Nation Magazine

2003-08-14 Thread Louis Proyect
Have plowed through about 1000 pages of civil war history and plan to get
through another 1000 before posting a reply to Charlie Post's article that
I have been commenting on here occasionally.
I have come to one conclusion already that I doubt any additional reading
will budge me from. And that is the dubious character of the second
American revolution, at least from the standpoint of the Northern ruling
class being the agency of such an event.
I am taking a close look at the close class affinities between the Northern
bourgeoisie and its purported deadly enemy, the plantocracy, that is
revealed in a number of places. At its best, the Northern elite had *no
interest* in creating a class of yeoman farmers in the south from the
emancipated African population. While swearing allegiance to free labor,
free soil was another matter altogether.
One of the most revealing aspects of this was the editorial footprints of
the Nation Magazine, founded in 1865 by abolitionist E. L. Godkin. As I
pointed out in an article I posted a while back on the Nation Magazine,
Godkin was a *liberal* in the late 19th century sense. He was for free
trade, competition and all the sorts of economic measures associated with
people like Alan Greenspan today. He opposed slavery because it was
inimical to his own economic philosophy.
That being said, Godkin and his associates were not at all predisposed to
an all-out assault on the plantation system, as long as it was based on
*free labor*. In 1867, President Johnson had run into a conflict with the
Radical Republicans in the Congress, who passed legislation to break the
back of Southern reaction. When Johnson kept cutting deals to maintain
white power in the South, he was impeached. In an December 5th 1867
editorial on the impeachment, the Nation spelled out its opposition to the
impeachment:
It must now be confessed those who were of this way of thinking [namely
that the Radical Republicans were going too far], and they were many, have
proved to be not very far wrong. It is not yet too late for the majority in
Congress to retrace its steps and turn to serious things. The work before
it is to bring the South back to the Union on the basis-of equal rights,
and not to punish the President or provide farms for negroes or remodel the
American Government.
If the abolitionist Nation Magazine was opposed to providing farms for
negroes [sic] and remodeling the US government, then which class was it
speaking for? And what was its political and economic agenda? More to come...
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Re: hot enough for you?

2003-08-14 Thread Mike Ballard
--- Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Global warming may be speeding up, fears scientist

 Alarm at 'unusual' heatwaves across northern
 hemisphere

*

Reminds me of an old Frank Zappa song quip:  Do you
like it?  Do you hate it?  There it is the way you
made it?

We produce Capital when we go to work each day and
thus re-produce the power of our irresponsible ruling
class.  Meanwhile, the capitalist machine marches into
the abyss.

For the works!
Mike B)



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Michael Yates on Talk of the Nation

2003-08-14 Thread Louis Proyect
http://discover.npr.org/features/feature.jhtml?wfId=1388017

Unions and Politics

Aug. 7, 2003

All nine democratic presidential hopefuls wooed the AFL-CIO convention
this week, but union membership stagnates. Meanwhile, Verizon and its
union workers struggle over job security and health care. Join Neal
Conan for a look at the importance of unions in this economic and
political climate. BR
Guests:
Michael Yates
*Labor Economist
*Author of Why Unions Matter (Monthly Review Press, 1999)
Steven Greenhouse
*Covers Labor and Workplace issues for The New York Times
Aaron Bartley
*Union Organizer for the Service Employees International Union (SEIU),
Chapter 615 (Boston Janitors Union)
*Organized janitors at Harvard for better wages and benefits (1998-2001)
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Re: The Road to Serfdom

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
Mike B writes:China is richer these days because the wage-slaves are
more productive than ever. 
 
they're richer (per capita) partly because richer and productivity are measured in 
terms of GDP, which ignores non-market costs and benefits.
Jim

-Original Message- 
From: Mike Ballard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sat 8/9/2003 2:01 PM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] The Road to Serfdom



--- Martin Hart-Landsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In short, based on my study of the Chinese experience,
while there were
some in the state that just supported growing
marketization for their
own gain, there were many in the party that saw the
need to overcome
problems of imbalance and inefficiency from the Mao
era and sought to
do so by encouraging competition between firms and
this lead step by
step to promotion of profits, and the creation of a
labor market and
...

ta-da-doomthe coninuation of wage-slavery,
classes, the State and all the undemocratic baggage
that goes with that sort of political-economy.  Not
that the more Mao inspired system of State controlled
commodity production didn't result in much the same
system with, of course, variations on all the
abovementioned themes.

China is richer these days because the wage-slaves are
more productive than ever.  The same is true for the
USA where according to the New York Times, The
Labor Department reported that productivity -- the
amount that an employee produces per hour of work --
rose at an annual rate of 5.7 percent in the April to
June quarter. That was the best performance since the
third quarter of 2002.  The question is, Who
controls and owns the social product of labour, the
marketeers or the producers?


Best,
Mike B)



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Re: The Road to Serfdom

2003-08-14 Thread Doug Henwood
Martin Hart-Landsberg wrote:

So, my point is that this kind of strategy is not one that we should be
endorsing as providing a real framework for general advancement of
working class interests.
Well yeah, but how? Suppose you were advising the S Korean government
- what would you say? Or the Haitian government?
Years ago, at a little roundtable on the World Bank organized by
Susan George, a bunch of us were gassing on in our usual radical
manner when a former official in Manley's finance ministry in Jamaica
said, You have no idea what it's like to have to come up with $100
million in hard currency next week. I've never forgotten that. He's
right - I had no idea, and still don't. But I think about it a lot.
Doug


Re: Help California - Help. Place on the net.

2003-08-14 Thread Waistline2

Seeking help from anyone that knows anyone that could spring for room and board in California for at least 30 days and a maximum of 90 days for the up coming election. Travel is negotiable. 

The recall is significant and I want to help anyone do anything. Bags packed. Really know how to talk to people and conduct a campaign. Will commit to 1000 contacts once I hit the ground. Will work tirelessly. Do know the difference between a theory debate and getting that vote and fighting to win. 

Revolution and counterrevolution evolves as a unity. Dangerous situation has erupted. Has the potential to change history. It is that big. 

Hey, Larry Flynt and Arnold are running. Arnold - The Terminator, is big recognition factor but anyone can be beat. Arnold wants to Terminate all social programs for the poor. 


Melvin P (not real name) 


Re: query

2003-08-14 Thread Dan Scanlan
does anyone know how to get a complete list of the registered and
announced candidates to replace Gray Davis as CA's guv?
Look on the comics page.


Re: Reply to an Observer article by the Italian Refounded CP

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
And isn't time for us to ditch the epithet anti-globalization,
to beat a dead horse already?

absolutely! that's why I put that word in quotation marks when I posted the article by 
Fausto Bertinotti to pen-l. It's his mistake to use that term. 

Jim



Re: The Road to Serfdom

2003-08-14 Thread Martin Hart-Landsberg
Hi Grant,

Well there is a lot surrounding the issue but I would say first of all
that the left should be careful to endorse a strategy of growth that
promotes exports in one country at the expense of worker well-being in
others.  So, rather than just see China as practicing some wonderful
economic strategy that other countries could adopt (and here the right
might say that the strategy is free-market and the left might say state
direction), we should see that China's exports are coming from FDI that
is leaving Mexico because Mexican wages were starting to rise although
they were still below their 1994 level, and being redirected away from
ASEAEN countries where there is still great poverty as in Thailand and
Indonesia.  And the process is squeezing South Korean workers as well
as China has become the favorite location for South Korean investors.
Already about 55 percent of South Korean workers are now classified as
daily or temporary, as opposed to regular.  South Korea is not only
losing FDI to China it is not getting much anymore from US and Japan.
Thus the government is now seeking to restrict workers even more and
open up new free investment zones with all sorts of benefits to foreign
investors which domestic firms now want.

So, the first point is that we need a broader frame to understand
China's recent growth and that frame should make us realize that
China's economic gains are not generalizable but rather are a
reflection and in turn intensification of capitalist dynamics that work
against workers.

In China itself it appears that workers are increasingly not benefiting
as the economy moves to export directed growth.  Studies are showing
that while wages are rising, workers have much greater costs for health
care and housing which means that they are not getting ahead.  Moreover
urban unemployment is now approaching 13 percent and that does not
include the hundred million peasants who are in the cities looking for
work.

Beyond that it is my impression that FDI flows are becoming increasing
concentrated in fewer and fewer third world countries and not going to
the poorest.  And in many cases those countries that are joining in the
process of export growth as part of transnational production networks
are seeing no increase in their value added and thus no real
development gains.

That is not to say that at a given moment some countries are not
increasing their exports and more workers are not gaining new wage
jobs.  But it does not appear that such activity is sustainable or
bringing any lasting benefits to workers.

You should see the Trade and Development Report 2002 for some really
interesting stuff about the lack of value added for countries involved
in export production organized by transnational corporations.

So, my point is that this kind of strategy is not one that we should be
endorsing as providing a real framework for general advancement of
working class interests.

I hope I am addressing your question which is a good one and not
talking past it.

Marty

Quoting Grant Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 Hi Marty,

 The question is: helpful to whom? The case of Mexico is often
 raised when
 this question comes up, but the overall trend in terms of the flight
 of
 capital is from more developed countries to less developed (which,
 by
 definition, does not include S.Korea, Malaysia or Singapore).

 It's bad news for wage earners in developed and semi-developed
 countries.
 This includes me, but I find it hard and --- I would say futile ---
 to
 begrudge those in China, Kenya, Vanuatau, wherever.

 Regards,

 Grant.



Re: Green

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Jim writes:

is there a color which represents democracy? I'd prefer 
democracy to anarchism (which precludes democracy).

Democracy would be the color of the ruling cohort. Everyone is a democrat, even Hitler.

Anarchism is okay... if you have the other two sides of the flag supporting it.

Ken.

--
Between the desire
And the spasm
Between the potency
And the existence
Between the essence
And the descent
Falls the Shadow
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Re: Buffett joins team Terminator

2003-08-14 Thread Michael Perelman
I just read a story a few days ago (Buzzflash ???) detailing Rove's
involvement.  This time Rove's strategy is capable of uniting all the
Repugs -- at least so far.

On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 09:25:50AM -0700, Devine, James wrote:
 I have believed from Day 1 that the White House is involved [in organizing
 the recall against California Gov. Davis], long-time
 Davis adviser Garry South said. No one can convince me that if Karl
 Rove did not want it to happen that he couldn't call off the dogs, he
 said, referring to Mr. Bush's political adviser.

 This ignores the fact that the GOP in California has a big component of 
 ultra-rightists who may be ideologically pleasant to Rove, Cheney, and their Bush, 
 but is self-destructive and therefore pragmatically unacceptable. I don't think 
 Darrell Issa -- the guy who got this circus started -- was responding to the White 
 House's instructions.
 Jim

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higher interest rates???

2003-08-14 Thread Michael Perelman
I just ran across this quote from Richard Clarida of the Treasury Dept.

We tend to think of automatic stabilizers in textbook
Keynesian terms, but a new automatic stabilizer for the
United States is the interaction between
long-term interest rates and mortgage refinancing.

I wonder what he will think if the bond market continues to sag.


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Re: question on finance capital

2003-08-14 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
At 6:24 PM -0700 8/13/03, michael wrote:
Doug Henwood wrote:
  michael wrote:
  Business Week describes GM becoming almost entirely dependent on its
 finance unit.  I recall seeing something similar about Ford.

 A few years ago, Ford was making money on its finance division and
 breaking even on cars. But the finance division was almost
 exclusively devoted to financing the purchase of Ford vehicles. So,
 they were capturing a business formerly engaged in by bankers, and
 their finance business was dependent on what they manufactured (which
 undermines the usual postindustrial story).
  Doug

Can you point me to the source, please.  I remember you mentioning
this before.  Was it in LBO?
*   The New York Times
December 15, 1996, Sunday, Late Edition - Final
SECTION: Section 3;  Page 1;  Column 3;  Money and Business/Financial Desk
LENGTH: 2908 words
HEADLINE: Will Ford Become The New Repo Man?;
Financial Powerhouse Takes Aim at Bad Credit Risks
BYLINE:  By ROBYN MEREDITH
DATELINE: DEARBORN, Mich.
BODY: HENRY FORD famously insisted that buyers could have any color
of car they wanted, as long as it was black. But he was just as
reluctant to offer them credit. Only in 1923, two decades after he
began selling cars, did he begin to experiment, cautiously, with
financing.
Ford customers could buy a $265 Model T on layaway, paying $5 a week
for a year. Only then were they allowed to drive the shiny black car
home. (Not until four years later did Mr. Ford give in to demands for
more colors.)
Ford long ago overcame its founder's misgivings about making loans.
With Americans now financing four-fifths of all new cars, the Ford
Motor Company has earned more as a banker than as a car builder in
five of the last six years. Its banking businesses had higher profits
last year than all but two of the nation's commercial banks.
And while Ford's automotive divisions are struggling to hold up
against stiff competition worldwide, a subsidiary, the Ford Motor
Credit Company, has become the biggest auto financing company in the
world. In the third quarter, Ford Credit earned $299 million,
compared with a paltry $15 million for the company's worldwide
automotive operations.
Now Ford Credit has an ambitious plan to extend its lending reach
into an area that would have baffled Henry Ford: borrowers with
proven records of not paying back their loans on time, a group
collectively known as the subprime lending market.
The lure is the $100 billion that people with flawed credit ratings
borrow each year to buy new and used cars, and the interest rates of
18 percent and higher that Ford will be able to charge on loans to
its share of that market. That is the equivalent of paying for a car
at credit-card rates.
Ford Credit's new business is risky on two counts. First, whether a
company makes money depends on which loan applicants it decides to
trust, and how far it trusts them before sending out the repo man to
seize the collateral. Secondly, Ford's image could be damaged if the
company is seen as profiting at the expense of the poor.
Consumer advocates already say a Ford consumer lending unit, the
Associates, charges unfairly steep interest rates and fees. That
unit's target market is similar to that of the new subprime
auto-finance operation, named Fairlane Credit after Henry Ford's
gracious Fair Lane estate here.
Ford Motor Credit doesn't want to be seen charging 40 percent
interest rates or repossessing cars, said Jordan Hymowitz, an auto
services analyst at Montgomery Securities in San Francisco. It is a
potential public relations problem if the rates get too egregious.
But at a time when profits are down and default rates are up at Ford
Credit, the cornerstone of Ford's financial businesses, its
executives say they have studied the companies in the subprime
lending market, are proceeding cautiously and are confident they can
make good money.
Ford is also planning to move slowly to build its new business. We
aren't going to make any big, bad boo-boos with Fairlane, William E.
Odom, the chairman of Ford Credit, said.
But he said he expected Fairlane's returns to be more volatile than
its parent's. Fairlane must be tough enough to compete with the
dozens of scrappy, small companies that dominate subprime auto
lending. But Fairlane will be walking a tightrope, particularly on
the repossessions that come after people stop making car payments.
If we pull the trigger too quickly on a repo, the customer is going
to be upset with us and with the Ford Motor Company, Jerry
Heimlicher, president of Fairlane, said.
Mr. Heimlicher said that Fairlane had not decided what interest rates
it would charge, but that he expected them to be in a range of 18 to
22 percent, and perhaps higher. While other subprime lenders charge
rates of 18 to 40 percent, where state laws permit, Mr. Heimlicher
said Fairlane's rates will never get into the range of 40 percent.
He added, We are going to charge the fairest rates that we can
charge, and still make a fair 

No napalm in Iraq just clean old Mark 77 firebombs

2003-08-14 Thread k hanly
Officials confirm dropping firebombs on Iraqi troops




Results are 'remarkably similar' to using napalm

By James W. Crawley
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

August 5, 2003

American jets killed Iraqi troops with firebombs - similar to the
controversial napalm used in the Vietnam War - in March and April as Marines
battled toward Baghdad.

Marine Corps fighter pilots and commanders who have returned from the war
zone have confirmed dropping dozens of incendiary bombs near bridges over
the Saddam Canal and the Tigris River. The explosions created massive
fireballs.



Mark 77 Firebomb
We napalmed both those (bridge) approaches, said Col. James Alles in a
recent interview. He commanded Marine Air Group 11, based at Miramar Marine
Corps Air Station, during the war. Unfortunately, there were people there
because you could see them in the (cockpit) video.

They were Iraqi soldiers there. It's no great way to die, he added. How
many Iraqis died, the military couldn't say. No accurate count has been made
of Iraqi war casualties.

The bombing campaign helped clear the path for the Marines' race to Baghdad.

During the war, Pentagon spokesmen disputed reports that napalm was being
used, saying the Pentagon's stockpile had been destroyed two years ago.

Apparently the spokesmen were drawing a distinction between the terms
firebomb and napalm. If reporters had asked about firebombs, officials
said yesterday they would have confirmed their use.

What the Marines dropped, the spokesmen said yesterday, were Mark 77
firebombs. They acknowledged those are incendiary devices with a function
remarkably similar to napalm weapons.

Rather than using gasoline and benzene as the fuel, the firebombs use
kerosene-based jet fuel, which has a smaller concentration of benzene.

Hundreds of partially loaded Mark 77 firebombs were stored on pre-positioned
ammunition ships overseas, Marine Corps officials said. Those ships were
unloaded in Kuwait during the weeks preceding the war.

You can call it something other than napalm, but it's napalm, said John
Pike, defense analyst with GlobalSecurity.org, a nonpartisan research group
in Alexandria, Va.

Although many human rights groups consider incendiary bombs to be inhumane,
international law does not prohibit their use against military forces. The
United States has not agreed to a ban against possible civilian targets.

Incendiaries create burns that are difficult to treat, said Robert Musil,
executive director of Physicians for Social Responsibility, a Washington
group that opposes the use of weapons of mass destruction.

Musil described the Pentagon's distinction between napalm and Mark 77
firebombs as pretty outrageous.

That's clearly Orwellian, he added.

Developed during World War II and dropped on troops and Japanese cities,
incendiary bombs have been used by American forces in nearly every conflict
since. Their use became controversial during the Vietnam War when U.S. and
South Vietnamese aircraft dropped millions of pounds of napalm. Its effects
were shown in a Pulitzer Prize-winning photograph of Vietnamese children
running from their burned village.

Before March, the last time U.S. forces had used napalm in combat was the
Persian Gulf War, again by Marines.

During a recent interview about the bombing campaign in Iraq, Marine Corps
Maj. Gen. Jim Amos confirmed aircraft dropped what he and other Marines
continue to call napalm on Iraqi troops on several occasions. He commanded
Marine jet and helicopter units involved in the Iraq war and leads the
Miramar-based 3rd Marine Air Wing.

Miramar pilots familiar with the bombing missions pointed to at least two
locations where firebombs were dropped.

Before the Marines crossed the Saddam Canal in central Iraq, jets dropped
several firebombs on enemy positions near a bridge that would become the
Marines' main crossing point on the road toward Numaniyah, a key town 40
miles from Baghdad.

Next, the bombs were used against Iraqis near a key Tigris River bridge,
north of Numaniyah, in early April.

There were reports of another attack on the first day of the war.

Two embedded journalists reported what they described as napalm being
dropped on an Iraqi observation post at Safwan Hill overlooking the Kuwait
border.

Reporters for CNN and the Sydney (Australia) Morning Herald were told by
unnamed Marine officers that aircraft dropped napalm on the Iraqi position,
which was adjacent to one of the Marines' main invasion routes.

Their reports were disputed by several Pentagon spokesmen who said no such
bombs were used nor did the United States have any napalm weapons.

The Pentagon destroyed its stockpile of napalm canisters, which had been
stored near Camp Pendleton at the Fallbrook Naval Weapons Station, in April
2001.

Yesterday military spokesmen described what they see as the distinction
between the two types of incendiary bombs. They said mixture used in modern
firebombs is a less harmful mixture than Vietnam War-era napalm.

This 

Michael Yates on Orthodox Economics vs Marxism, and more

2003-08-14 Thread Sasha Lilley
Michael Yates was interviewed today on our program
Living Room -- the archived audio can be found at
www.livingroomradio.org -- on why Marxism has greater
explanatory power than neoclassical economics (see
below).  And although he was on NPR's Talk of the
Nation last week, we had booked him long before that!


Other currently archived shows that might interest
people are programs on the International Longshore and
Warehouse Union's organization of agricultural labor
in Hawaii; Israeli scholar Baruch Kimmerling on Israel
and Ariel Sharon; Bertolt Brecht; Marx and Freud; the
Jewish and Palestinian editors of Between the Lines on
what's wrong with the Left in Israel and Palestine;
Robin DG Kelley on his book Freedom Dreams; myths
about the decline of the family; limiting the work
week; and much more.


Wed 8.13.03| Orthodox Economics vs. Marxism

Neoliberal prescriptions applied around the globe have
left many progressives skeptical of orthodox economic
theory. And yet what alternative theories exist? Labor
economist Michael Yates argues that Marxism provides
us with a means of understanding our world, with all
its poverty and inequality, in a way that isn't
abstracted from reality


Sasha Lilley
Producer, KPFA's Living Room
510/848-6767 x209
www.livingroomradio.org


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Re: Background of David Kay

2003-08-14 Thread Michael Perelman
It might depend on your definition of finds.  I bet that he finds
something awful once the election starts to heat up.

On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 01:21:08PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If he verifiably finds or meaningfully helps find
 whatever it is that also verifiably is confirmed to be
 WMD (however defined), what difference will his
 backgound have made?  And to whatever if any exent
 that he will not have done this, why is it [i]nteresting
 what his background may be (WHATEVER his
 background is)?

--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

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Re: Reply to an Observer article by the Italian Refounded CP

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Lou --

I hesitate to write... but I must state...

I know you are smart... But these ambush letters in which you ask a
question and copy it to a list... is not right. Private is private.

Ken.

--
Literature is the art of writing something that will be
read twice; journalism what will be read once.
  -- Cyril Connolly


Re: What is to be done in Argentina

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
my feeling is that for a book to have a big impact, it has to fall on a fertile 
field. That is, the societal situation -- including the balance of class forces -- 
has to be such that people are looking for the kinds of ideas that the book presents. 


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 -Original Message-
 From: Jurriaan Bendien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:05 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PEN-L] What is to be done in Argentina
 
 
  do you think that writing a book can have that big an effect?
 
 Whether or not a book has a big effect, depends I think on numerous
 factors, and a publisher would affirm this:
 
 - its content and form
 - who wrote it
 - the life and doings of the author
 - the specific context it is written in, or written for
 - who it is written for
 - how the book is marketed
 - whether it is bought in order to read it, or for some other 
 reason or
 fashion (a book might have an effect which has nothing to do 
 with its real
 content, or it might sell lots of copies without its content 
 influencing
 anybody very much).
 
 I have commented on the anthropology of the uses of books as cultural
 artifacts already once before on Marxmail, referring to postmodernist
 culture. If you consider Marx's book Capital, it had very 
 little readership
 in the 19th century, and if it did, this owed more to Marx's political
 engagements or reputation probably. It became a hit in, of all places,
 Russia. Pamphlets or short books by Kautsky, Lafargue, 
 Engels, Mehring,
 Bebel, Jaures, Lenin etc. were far more popular, and there 
 were literally
 hundreds in that genre.
 
 Rosa Luxemburg, Isaac Deutscher and Ernest Mandel all 
 remarked upon the
 fact, that even among selfstyled Marxists in the 1920s, 
 Marx's magnum opus
 had mostly not been read beyond the first volume or extracts 
 thereof (it
 wasn't exactly holiday reading of course), never mind digested and
 understood. Only after the founding of the Marx-Engels Institute and
 subsequently the transformation of Marxism into a state 
 ideology, were large
 quantities of the book sold.
 
 To this day, communication theory remains a very much 
 under-researched topic
 in Marxist circles.
 
 References:
 Ernest Mandel, The place of Marxism in history
 Paul Dukes, October and the World
 
 (According to the Guiness book of records, the bestselling 
 book of all time
 is the Bible, the highest circulation magazine is the US 
 Parade, and the
 honour of the highest circulation attained by a newspaper went to
 Komsomolskaya Pravda selling just under 22 million copies in 1990.)
 



An economic indicator

2003-08-14 Thread Eugene Coyle
When I pick up my WSJ from the lawn in the morning I find it very thin.
Those big biznesses aint spending on print advertising.
Gene Coyle


contradictions of EU Federalism

2003-08-14 Thread Eubulides
Economic dispatch

Staying afloat on state life raft

The French government's aid to a beleaguered engineering company has
Brussels concerned, says David Gow

Monday August 11, 2003
The Guardian

Alstom, the French engineering group desperately trying to stay afloat,
highlights the dilemma facing European governments when companies
employing thousands of people or occupying a strategic role threaten to go
under.

In France, where a centre-right government is working frantically to
introduce market reforms, including large-scale privatisations to meet a
budget deficit that will bust the Maastricht rules, the state stepped in.

Thirty thousand jobs were enough to persuade it to take almost a one-third
stake in Alstom, undermining its core economic philosophy. In Britain,
where Alstom employs 10,000, the government stood off as the group
announced plans to close its train-making facility at Washwood Heath, near
Birmingham, with the loss of up to 1,400 jobs - and said that it would
effectively halve its British workforce.

An entire set of new trains for the London tube's Victoria line is,
instead, to be made in France or Spain. This has provoked outrage among
trade unions and, at the very least, deep-seated concern among British
industrialists.

The Trades Union Congress and Confederation of British Industry are
joining forces to press the government to re-think its manufacturing
strategy.

For, not only has Alstom UK underlined again the ease with which
multinational groups can dismiss staff in Britain, it has also shown that
the government's liberal economic policy - enabling foreign groups to buy
up large swathes of manufacturing and then closing them when the going
gets rough - is inadequate to protect strategic industries.

Yesterday, the European commission said that the government of Jean-Louis
Raffarin had not yet formally notified it of its plans to save Alstom from
the knacker's yard - and the company is already receiving state aid under
the terms of the emergency refinancing package announced last week.

Another case has highlighted the vagaries of state aid. Almost a year ago,
the UK government was forced to step in and set the pace on a bail-out for
British Energy, the privately-owned nuclear operator that provides more
than a fifth of UK energy.

We now know via leaked papers from Brussels that the scale of the state
aid, much of it hidden from the public, is between £4bn and £5bn. The UK
government at least met the EU's strict timetable for giving the aid and
submitting the required restructuring plan to Brussels for approval by the
competition authorities - before paying the aid. And now an 18-month
investigation is under way.

France, which faces the same kind of investigation, has already paid out
some of the aid and has yet to bother to fully notify the EU. We do not
know why the UK government effectively let Alstom take its own commercial
decision to semi-quit Britain - and it remains highly contentious why it
committed so much public money to keep British Energy going.

In a preliminary analysis, Brussels already has ruled that key elements of
the British state aid are unlawful - and France, which normally escapes
scot-free, may yet face a similar challenge over Alstom.

Both these cases have illustrated a sharp contradiction at the heart of
the EU's single market: the disruption to normal liberal policies caused
by the perceived need to protect national champions or strategic
industries from competition. Theoretically, state aid should be gradually
run down: in practice, it is applied when political imperatives dictate it
should be.

· David Gow is the Guardian's industrial editor

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weapons inspector's triumph

2003-08-14 Thread Michael Perelman
The Sacramento Bee reports that our friend, David Kay, the weapons
inspector has already discovered that Saddam had ordered a weapons attack
on the US soldiers, but his orders were not carried out.  Boy that's
quick.

 -- Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
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Re: Drug user for California governor?

2003-08-14 Thread Max B. Sawicky
The guy in the race to get behind is Jack Grisham,
formerly with the Dead Kennedys.  Drugs, feh. Doesn't
everybody in California do drugs?

max

Kill the Poor (DKs)

Efficiency and progress is ours once more
Now that we have the Neutron bomb
It's nice and quick and clean and gets things done
Away with excess enemy
But no less value to property
No sense in war but perfect sense at home.

The sun beams down on a brand new day
No more welfare tax to pay
Unsightly slums gone up in flashing light
Jobless millions whisked away
At last we have more room to play
All systems go to kill the poor tonight

Gonna
Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor.Tonight

Behold the sparkle of champagne
The crime rate's gone
Feel free again
O' life's a dream with you, Miss Lily White
Jane Fonda on the screen today
Convinced the liberals it's okay
So let's get dressed and dance away the night

While they.
Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor . . . Tonight





-Original Message-
From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Lear
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Drug user for California governor?


It's all fine with me if Californians want to elect Schwarzenegger, a
drug user, to be their next governor.  But he's never come clean about
his drug habit, only saying on the tonight show with Johnny Carson
that he experimented with illegal drugs.

Do you think Fox News will be conducting its standard Witch Hunt
to find out the details of Arnold's drug habit?


Bill


Re: The Road to Serfdom

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
JKS writesI concede it, marketsa re
BAD, or maybe good in theory but BAD in practice,
whatever. Democracy will make everything great.
Efficiency is a bourgeois notion. 
 
I never said that anything was BAD. In fact, that was the point of what I said, 
i.e., that I never said that markets were bad. 
 
And I NEVER said that democracy will make everything great. Rather, the only 
legitimate way to run a country -- or the world -- has to be based on the active 
democratic consent of the governed (and NOT the tacit consent so loved by Locke and 
his followers). Rule by elites or markets must be subordinate to democratic 
principles. If markets undermine democracy, that's a point against them.
 
Further, I NEVER said that efficiency was a bourgeois notion. One thing I do know is 
that markets do not encourage efficiency, except following the narrowest definition fo 
efficiency, i.e., minimum _private_ cost, where private cost is cost to the 
decision-maker (the wealth controller). That definition of efficiency is part and 
parcel of bourgeois propaganda. A more sophisticated and more complete definition of 
efficiency has been used as part as critique of markets (cf. Albert  Hahnel).
 
Jim

-Original Message- 
From: andie nachgeborenen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sat 8/9/2003 4:02 PM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] The Road to Serfdom



--- Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 JKS refers to  the well worn territory of how
 markets are BAD

 actually, my understanding is that (except for Mike
 B), the main trend of the anti-market socialism
 side was not  that markets are BAD. (Could you
 name someone who says that markets are evil?)

Right here, right now, Mike Ballard.

Look, are you trying to provoke me into participating
in this discussion? You know that Micahel P is going
to shut it down immediately. Besides, I am too tired
and busy to do this now. I concede it, marketsa re
BAD, or maybe good in theory but BAD in practice,
whatever. Democracy will make everything great.
Efficiency is a bourgeois notion. Whatever. I don't
care anymore. Leave me alone.

jks

 Rather, it was that real-world markets do not
 correspond to the textbook ideal of markets, which
 doesn't exist in reality, while real-world markets
 have a large number of imperfections that prevent
 them from serving socialist-democratic goals. It's
 the pro-market socialism side that puts forth that
 markets are good, or at least better than central
 planning, which is BAD. Frankly, I think that the
 whole plan vs. market discussion misses the point
 (i.e., the need for democracy as part of the
 abolition of class and to avoid the
 inequality-generating characteristics of both
 markets and central plans).

 Rather than discussing market socialism, I think
 it would be worth pen-l's while to discuss Charlie
 Andrews' proposal for competing not-for-profit
 enterprises (in his FROM CAPITALISM TO EQUALITY).
 Maybe Charlie could be dragooned into participating.

 Jim










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risk sharing, supply chains

2003-08-14 Thread Eubulides
Monday, August 11, 2003

Sharing the risk for 7E7
Partners and suppliers expected to bear more costs for Boeing

By JAMES WALLACE
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER AEROSPACE REPORTER

Not willing to bet the company on the development of its next all-new
jetliner as it has done with past planes such as the 747, The Boeing Co.
is looking at a bold and different approach with the 7E7 that will spread
the risk and development costs among partners and suppliers.

With the program facing a critical review by a cost-conscious board of
directors in a few months, Boeing appears to be closing in on key
decisions about these risk-sharing partnerships.

Partners and suppliers that shoulder the risks and help foot the bill
could save Boeing hundreds of millions of dollars in the overall design
and development of the new plane. They would then have the opportunity to
share in the long-term revenue potential of the plane.

The idea is not new. Brazilian airplane maker Embraer is relying on 16
risk-sharing partners for its new 70- and 90-seat regional jet program.
And risk-sharing partners and equipment suppliers will cover about $3.1
billion of the $10.7 billion development cost of the Airbus A380
superjumbo

What Boeing envisions for the 7E7, however, would go far beyond what the
industry has ever seen.

Boeing has typically had their hands in all facets of design and
development of new planes, said Peter Jacobs, an analyst with Ragen
MacKenzie who once worked for Boeing.

But times have changed and development techniques have evolved. It is now
appropriate that they use partners to share their risks. Part of that is
the increase in the level of outsourcing (work once done by Boeing that is
now done by others). To be effective, you need to give those third parties
more control of the tasks assigned to them so they can also reap the
benefits while assuming part of the downside risk.

It is not, however, without controversy within Boeing. Many engineers are
concerned that Boeing may be giving away the design, development and
manufacturing secrets and expertise that made it the world's commercial
airplane leader.

Although Boeing has not yet said what parts of the 7E7 its partners will
make, Japanese industry is expected to manufacture the composite wings of
the 7E7. Boeing has never allowed a supplier to take the lead in
production of its high-value jetliner wings.

Boeing is expected to announce later this year who will manufacture what
parts of the 7E7. The company has only said the Japanese will get about 35
percent of the 7E7 airframe work. That's more than the 21 percent that
Japanese companies now have on the 777 airframe.

It's not yet known to what extent Boeing's partners and suppliers will
buy -- or already have bought -- into the 7E7 program.

We have no target set for that sort of thing, Mike Bair, vice president
of the 7E7 program, said when asked how much of the 7E7 development costs
would be shouldered by risk-sharing partners and suppliers.

A couple things weigh on that, he said. What is the appetite for
partners to be risk sharing? One of the things we have to balance is that
if you give away risks you also give away the upside. We think this plane
is going to be a runaway best seller. So part of our thought process is
how much of that do we want to give away?

Boeing will not reveal design and development costs of the 7E7, but
analysts have estimated the total could range from $7 billion to $10
billion.

It is believed that the development of Boeing's last all-new jetliner, the
777, cost the company about $7 billion. Boeing has never disclosed the
amount.

Bair said the design, development and production costs of the 7E7 will be
significantly less than for the 777.

Some industry analysts say they think risk-sharing partners and suppliers
could pick up as much as 40 percent of the design and development costs.
In exchange, they will get a bigger chunk of the work and more opportunity
to make money if the program is successful. But they also assume more risk
if the 7E7 is not a best seller.

Although the three Japanese heavies -- Fuji, Kawasaki and Mitsubishi
heavy industries -- are sometimes referred to as risk-sharing partners on
the 777 program, it depends on how the term is defined.

Airbus wanted these Japanese companies to take an equity stake in its
A380. It didn't happen. Boeing made it clear to the Japanese companies
that they could have only one partner -- Boeing. Japanese companies will
build parts for the A380, but they are not risk-sharing partners.

Some of the suppliers that Airbus is counting on for that $3.1 billion in
A380 development costs are not full revenue-sharing partners. Rather, they
are only assuming non-recurring tooling and infrastructure costs.

In the past, Boeing has also had many suppliers who fund some portion of
the non-recurring costs of their product and then hope to earn that
investment back over the life of the contract. But Boeing has never had
partners or suppliers that 

Re: green pensions?

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
from BusinessWeek, Au. 18-25, 2003:

The Greening of Pension Plans

Cash-strapped U.S. steel (X ) may have hit on a solution for companies
scrounging for the dough to pump up pension funds that were recently
flattened by the stock market's slide. Just sign over some forests -- or
other valuable assets.

On Aug. 4, the steelmaker told analysts it was asking for government
permission to transfer 170,000 acres of timberland, mostly in Alabama,
to its pension funds. The company values the assets at $100 million. But
the trees are young so the valuation will grow over time,

Ian writes:
So Paul Davidson is wrong and money does grow on trees? :-)

Of course, Marx knew all about  this, in a footnote in volume III of
CAPITAL, chapter 22, note 7 (found at
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894-c3/ch22.htm#n7): 

J G. Opdyke, for instance, in his Treatise on Political Economy (New
York, 1851) makes a very unsuccessful attempt to explain the
universality of a 5% rate of interest [the natural rate of interest --
JD] by eternal laws. Mr. Karl Arnd is still more naive  It is stated
there: In the natural course of goods production there is just one
phenomenon, which, in the fully settled countries, seems in some measure
to regulate the rate of interest; this is the proportion, in which the
timber in European forests is augmented through their annual growth.
This new growth occurs quite independently of their exchange-value, at
the rate of 3 or 4 to 100. (How queer that trees should see to their
new growth independently of their exchange-value!) According to this a
drop in the rate of interest below its present level in the richest
countries cannot be expected (p. 124). (He means, because the new
growth of the trees is independent of their exchange-value, however much
their exchange-value may depend on their new growth.) This deserves to
be called the primordial forest rate of interest. Its discoverer makes
a further laudable contribution in this work to our science as the
philosopher of the dog tax. [Marx ironically calls K. Arnd the
philosopher of the dog tax because in a special paragraph in his book
(? 88, 5.420-24) he advocated that tax. -- Ed.]

Jim



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Correction to correction

2003-08-14 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Jeez, I'm losing it. I wrote:

See for instance her essay Stagnation and Progress of Marxism (1903),
first published in 1927 by David Riazanov,
the original director of the Marx-Engels Institute founded in 1920 in
Moscow.

Should be:

See for instance her essay Stagnation and Progress of Marxism (1903),
first published in English in 1927 by David Riazanov, the original director
of the Marx-Engels Institute founded in 1920 in Moscow.

J.


Re: Green

2003-08-14 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
At 9:11 AM -0400 8/12/03, Kenneth Campbell wrote:
the next unifying revolutionary force will be green, not red.
I'd prefer Red, Black, and Green together (the colors of
revolutionary socialism, anarchism, and environmentalism), also the
colors of the pan-African Black Liberation Flag.
At 9:11 AM -0400 8/12/03, Kenneth Campbell wrote:
Everyone is immediately interested.
There is no cause in which a numerical majority of the population --
not even a numerical majority of the proletariat -- will get
immediately interested.  A social movement always starts with a
minority of organizers.  Get one third of the population committed to
the movement, and it will be literally revolutionary.
--
Yoshie
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pensions, again

2003-08-14 Thread Eubulides
Deficit Strains Pension Agency
Guaranteed Benefits in No Danger Now, but Long-Term Worry Grows

By Albert B. Crenshaw
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, August 8, 2003; Page E01


Ten years ago, the government agency that insures traditional corporate
pension plans racked up record deficits. Some policymakers feared that the
agency would collapse, requiring a government bailout.

Five years later, thanks to the bull stock market of the late 1990s, the
Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. was on its way to record surpluses.

Today, the agency is in deficit again, raising new concerns for its
future.

Workers don't have to be worried that we are going to run out of money
here in the near term, said Steven A. Kandarian, the PBGC's executive
director. But there are serious structural problems, in my judgment, in
the system that need to be addressed soon.

Many of the pension plans the agency insures are also in deficit. The
combination has prompted a political debate on Capitol Hill.

The immediate focus is on proposed changes in the rules for pension plan
funding. The Treasury Department is calling for rules that would force
many companies to put more money into their pension plans, while employers
are seeking changes that would ease the funding requirements until markets
return to normal.

A broader issue is the future of the nation's retirement system, when only
about half the workers in the country are covered by any kind of pension
plan.

Traditional pensions, also known as defined benefit plans because they
promise a specific benefit in retirement, became very popular after World
War II, especially in unionized industries, but have been in decline in
recent years. Growing numbers of employers are using defined
contribution plans, such as 401(k)s, instead.

The federal pension agency covers about 33,000 pension plans for a total
of 44 million workers. The number of plans is down from more than 100,000
in the mid-1980s.

The number of 401(k) type retirement savings plans rose from just over
200,000 in 1975 to nearly 700,000 in 1998.

A key difference is who bears the investment risk. In a traditional
pension, the company promises to pay the benefit and the government stands
behind that promise through the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. In a
401(k), the worker and/or employer make specified contributions and the
retirement benefit is whatever the invested money produces.

The Bush administration favors a system in which workers invest and save
for retirement on their own, encouraged by tax benefits. It has proposed a
wide-scale system of tax-favored lifetime and retirement savings accounts
that would cover almost everyone. They, and backers of defined
contribution plans, say such plans better serve workers who change jobs
often, as so many do.

They also note, and employers agree, that all private pensions are
voluntary, and forcing additional funding, or boosting regulation and
federal insurance premium costs, will encourage employers to drop their
traditional plans entirely or switch to 401(k)s.

Some employers view the administration's proposals on funding as part of
an agenda to further reduce the number of traditional pensions. One
business lobbyist complained of opposition from a group of very
conservative Republicans who seem to view such pensions as a form of
corporate socialism they would like to see go away.

The immediate concern for the federal pension agency is whether loosening
the rules would allow pension plans to get further into the red so it
would have more to make up if it should have to take them over. Last year,
the agency estimated its exposure to claims regarded as reasonably
possible was more than $30 billion. So far this year, it has added the
pension plans of Bethlehem Steel ($3.9 billion in claims), National Steel
($1.3 billion), and the US Airways pilots ($600 million).

The funding rules have been tightened over the years, most recently in
1994. But changes in the U.S. economy raised new worries. With traditional
pensions concentrated in old unionized companies, many of which are under
pressure from imports, the agency is concerned that more plans will be
thrust upon it in the next few years.

While the situation is not analogous to that of federal deposit insurance
for savings and loans, there are some similarities. During the SL crisis,
regulators repeatedly relaxed rules governing thrifts in hope that they
could recover. When they didn't, the cost to the government was much
higher than it would have been had the rules been tightened earlier.

Among the lessons learned from the SL debacle is you don't want to
mask the problem by defining away the problem, Kandarian said. You also
don't want to get to the point where you're encouraging more risk to be
taken within a system, as was the case with the SLs, where they were
investing in riskier and riskier assets, tying to get themselves out of a
hole.

Employers don't foresee such problems. Just as in the case of their own
plans, a 

a turn in TV news coverage

2003-08-14 Thread Louis Proyect
On ABC world news tonight, the lead story was about how the arms dealer
in the news yesterday was nothing of the sort. He was a failing textile
merchant who was convinced by US agents to buy missiles that didn't exist
and sell them to customers that did not exist. Reporter Brian Ross said
that if it were not for the participation of the FBI, nothing would have
happened.
Then, it gave a brief coverage of a press conference of Stan Goff's Bring
them Home group.
Then, it moved on to a longer story about how US injuries were being
under-reported in Iraq. Not only that, it described wounded men as bitter
and demoralized and quoted a spouse of a GI who had his arm amputated
after an RPG attack, who said that medical care was totally inadequate.
I strongly suspect that the tide is turning against continued intervention
in Iraq. Columbia professor Nick De Genova was right. It will take
something like another Mogadishu to stop the USA. He was tactless but correct.
Louis Proyect, Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org


Re: Reply to an Observer article by the Italian Refounded CP

2003-08-14 Thread Doug Henwood
Devine, James wrote:

 I'd say the Empire thesis has some life in it yet.

in 25 words or less, how would you summarize the Empire thesis?
What's relevant here is that imperial power is far more dispersed and
polycentric than the old-fashioned Washington/Hollywood/Wall Street
rules the world models would have it. A major part of the Bush agenda
in Iraq was to show the world that the U.S. runs the show, and the
messy outcome is showing that it doesn't.
That was more like 50 words, but it's still pretty short.

Doug


WTO farm deal, again

2003-08-14 Thread Eubulides
Farm deal puts WTO talks at risk

Washington-Brussels pact angers developing world by backtracking on
subsidies

Charlotte Denny and Andrew Osborn in Brussels
Thursday August 14, 2003
The Guardian

A battle between the west and the developing world at next month's World
Trade Organisation meeting in Cancun was looming last night after India
rejected a late deal on farm subsidies stitched together by Washington and
Brussels.

The world's two largest trading blocs claimed the deal would inject new
life into deadlocked trade liberalisation talks but faced immediate
objections from India, one of the WTO's most powerful developing country
members.

It is not feasible. It does not take into account our farmers'
interests, said India's ambassador to the World Trade Organisation, KM
Chandrasekhar.

With less than a month to go before the trade ministers arrive in Mexico,
agriculture remains one of the most contentious issues on the table.

To break the logjam, the European Union and the United States are offering
limited cuts to the most trade-distorting subsidies and some reductions in
the high tariffs that hit developing country farm exports.

But aid agencies said western countries were backtracking on the pledge
they made when the new round of talks was launched, two years ago, that
developing country interests would be the priority.

One of the crucial promises western trade ministers made at the beginning
of the new round in Doha - to abolish all export subsidies - would be
watered down under the EU-US plan. Instead, Brussels and Washington are
offering a more limited deal to phase out subsidies on a range of
interests to developing countries.

But, for a product to appear on the list, farm lobbies in Europe will have
to give their approval, and sceptics argue the EU will never agree to put
sugar on it - one of the most heavily subsidised products that is harming
farmers in the developing world.

This is world class comedy from the world's subsidy super-powers, said
Kevin Watkins, Oxfam's head of research. They are completely reneging on
the commitments they made two years ago.

Mr Watkins said Europe and the US appeared to have agreed to turn a blind
eye to each other's lavish spending on farm subsidies. Campaigners say
this encourages mountains of surplus food, which is dumped in the
developing world, bankrupting local farmers in the process.

Washington enraged its trading partners last year when it increased
spending on farm subsidies by $180bn over the following 10 years. Just
months later, the EU came under equally heavy fire after France and
Germany forced other member states to agree to keep spending on the common
agricultural policy virtually unchanged until 2013.

The draft deal allows the EU and the US to claim most of their spending is
non-trade distorting and so not subject to demands for cuts.

This deal is designed to accommodate the US farm bill and the non-reform
of the common agricultural policy, Mr Watkins said. This is a reckless
assault on the Doha development round.

Officials in Brussels believe the deal is the best chance that talks will
be wrapped up by the end of 2004, as planned. The three-page framework
leaves out much of the detail - such as how swingeing any cuts in
subsidies might be - and will still have to be negotiated.

However, both sides insist privately that they have given real ground and
signed up to concrete concessions - at least in principle.


Re: Guardian Unlimited | The Guardian | Study of Bush's psyche touches a nerve

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Geez, Jim...

This should be some kind of Lefty U. screening test.

Ken.

--
The advantage of a bad memory is that one enjoys several
times the same good things for the first time.
  -- Friedrich Nietzsche


Devine, James wrote:
 what kind of neurosis -- or psychosis -- do we leftists suffer from?


self-importance? determinism? is that a neurosis?

--ravi


Degrees of Separation Are Likely More Than 6, Especially in E-Mail Age

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
I always like to see the words urban myth used when talking about
academics. So much of accepted stuff is legendary.

The connectedness of the world via the Net was always lauded in academia
and SEC prospective alike. While I think Stanley Milgram was brilliant,
things ain't really that different after all. Even with email and
ecommerce.

Ken.

--
The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do.
  -- B.F. Skinner



Degrees of Separation Are Likely More Than 6, Especially in E-Mail Age

By KENNETH CHANG
New York Times
August 12, 2003


Socially, it may be a small world, but it's hard to get from here to
there.

In the current issue of the journal Science, researchers at Columbia
University report the first large-scale experiment that supports the
notion of six degrees of separation, that a short chain of
acquaintances can be found between almost any two people in the world.
But the same study finds that trying to contact a distant stranger via
acquaintances is likely to fail.

The six degrees of separation notion came from an experiment in 1967
by Dr. Stanley Milgram, a social psychologist, where a few hundred
people tried to forward a letter to a particular person in Boston by
sending it through people they knew personally. About a third of the
letters reached their destination, after an average of six mailings.

Dr. Milgram's experiment inspired a notion that the billions of people
in the world, widely separated by geography and culture, actually form a
close-knit network of social acquaintances, that you are a friend of a
friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of anyone anywhere.

Until now, few scientists have tried to confirm Dr. Milgram's findings,
which some scientists find unconvincing because of the small number of
participants and other shortcomings of the experiment.

The advent of the Internet enabled the researchers to more carefully
explore the problem, which is part mathematical — the structure of the
network — and part psychological — what motivates people to participate
or not, and how do people decide whom to send the message to? The
answers are of interest both to computer scientists studying the ebb and
flow of information on the Internet and sociologists studying the spread
of gossip and cultural trends.

In this global study, more than 60,000 people tried to get in touch with
one of 18 people in 13 countries. The targets included a professor at
Cornell University, a veterinarian in the Norwegian army and a police
officer in Australia. Despite the ease of sending e-mail, the failure
rate turned out much higher than what Dr. Milgram had found, possibly
because many of the recipients ignored the messages as drips in a daily
deluge of spam.

Of the 24,613 e-mail chains that were started, a mere 384, or fewer than
2 percent, reached their targets. The successful chains arrived quickly,
requiring only four steps to get there. The rest foundered when someone
in the middle did not forward the e-mail.

As in most social networks, it is not just a question of who knows whom,
but who is willing to help.

Just because President Bush is six degrees from me doesn't mean I'm
going to be invited for dinner at the White House, said Dr. Duncan J.
Watts, a professor of sociology at Columbia and senior author of the
Science paper. You can ask a friend of a friend for a favor, but that's
about it.

Of the people who received an unsolicited e-mail message in the
experiment, 37 percent sent it on, a relatively high participation rate.
But with nearly two-thirds of the recipients not forwarding the message
at all, the number of continuing e-mail chains dwindled quickly with
each successive step.

When the researchers asked people why they did not participate, less
than 1 percent replied that they could not think of anyone to send the
e-mail message to, suggesting that most simply did not want to be
bothered.

Thus, the researchers assumed that many more of the e-mail chains could
have been completed. They calculated that half of them would have been
finished in five steps or less if the first sender and the target lived
in the same country, and seven steps otherwise.

That sounds like we're pretty connected, Dr. Watts said. But the 98
percent attrition rate would suggest we're really not connected, Dr.
Watts said. It all depends on what this attrition rate is.

Dr. Mark Granovetter, a professor of sociology at Stanford who wrote an
accompanying commentary in Science, said the similar findings of Dr.
Watts and Dr. Milgram suggest the phenomenon of close links in social
networks is pretty robust.

Dr. Judith S. Kleinfeld, a professor of psychology at the University of
Alaska who has described six degrees of separation as an academic
equivalent of an urban myth, said the conclusion was not warranted.

Instead of showing we live in a small world, it really shows the
opposite, she said. Ninety-eight percent of people can't reach
anybody. What do they conclude? `Hey, we're all 

Re: The Road to Serfdom

2003-08-14 Thread Michael Perelman
No. It was not my intention to open a thread.


On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 02:56:20AM +0200, Jurriaan Bendien wrote:
 Michael, if you want to open another thread, go ahead... my own philosophy
 is that the whole problem or art is how one can thread a thread into
 another thread that ties a solid knot into the thread one was operating on.
 I mean, you might like a thread for a while, but then you feel you need to
 get into another thread, but you still have the previous thread, and you
 have to thread that previous thread into another different thread, so that
 you can start another new thread yourself. In my own life, I have a bit of a
 threading problem at the moment, which I have to resolve somehow (difficult,
 since I don't have a lot of friends here who can help out with the warp and
 woof), but anyway I will try to stay out of the thread you appear not to
 like, even although you said previously You are welcome to do what you
 want.

 Regards

 Jurriaan

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 Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 11:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [PEN-L] The Road to Serfdom


  Oh, my God!  I opened up that thread again
 

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Re: Reply to an Observer article by the Italian Refounded CP

2003-08-14 Thread Carrol Cox
Doug Henwood wrote:

 Devine, James wrote:

   I'd say the Empire thesis has some life in it yet.
 
 in 25 words or less, how would you summarize the Empire thesis?

 What's relevant here is that imperial power is far more dispersed and
 polycentric than the old-fashioned Washington/Hollywood/Wall Street
 rules the world models would have it. A major part of the Bush agenda
 in Iraq was to show the world that the U.S. runs the show, and the
 messy outcome is showing that it doesn't.

Not really. Empires that are strong enough can take a lot of messy
outcomes and go merrily on the way. There are various potential
weaknesses in u.s. hegemony but only potential. That hegemony will
survive, even flourish, until it is militarily/politically driven from
the mid-east and far-east and until a large and militant mass movement
at home demands that it _acccept_ that foreign defeat.

The USSR used to look favorably on its negative balance of payments. The
whole world was sending it wealth. Until there is serious political
resistance (backed by reasonable military force) from other nations, the
u.s. balance of payments 'problem' should be regarded not as a problem
but merely as an index of the amount of tribute it is collecting from
its empire (and even more from its junior partners in that empire --
Japan  EU).

Carrol



 That was more like 50 words, but it's still pretty short.

 Doug


Re: US war against Iraq post-mortem

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
General Winter won three in Russia.

But I wonder if all three were not really won by Russian feudalism.

Feudalist culture (declining or not) had the singular ability to absorb
massive blows to the communications infrastructure without collapsing.
(That's why they had fiefdoms... and created knights...)

Ken.

--
Sometimes a scream is better than a thesis.
  -- R.W. Emerson


Re: The Road to Serfdom

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
My understanding is that the reason why Michael Perelman opposes pen-l discussions of 
market socialism is (1) we've had them before, mostly killing the subject, and (2) 
they degenerated into a tone similar to the one below. 
 
That said, I see nothing wrong with a pen-l discussion of market socialism. Maybe 
some new points will come up, though I doubt it. 
Jim

-Original Message- 
From: andie nachgeborenen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sat 8/9/2003 6:28 AM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] The Road to Serfdom



You're not going to get  anywhere with this, Micahel P
will not allow this to proceed. That markets are BAD
is axiomatic, it's not up for discussion. I am not
permited to dispute the proposition, and neither are
you. This is a market-free zone, a litle space where
leftist economists can gather safe in the quieta
ssurance that everyoneelse agrees that the only things
to be said about markets are that they are
exploitative and ineffective and wasteful, and we can
all laugh at the market worshippers in the rest of the
economics community. We all repeat variations on this
mantra and never have to face any criticism of it
here. It's so obvious that it's not even allowed to be
disputed. I hope we are all clear on this now. So shut
up, and talk about something that reasonable people
can disagree about. Speaking for Michael, if I may,
I'm cuttting this discussion off NOW. No more. End of
story. Full stop. Period.

Nice weather we're having this summer, eh?

jks

--- Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But that is crazy. Not all markets are bad ! Marx
 did not argue this, nor
 did any Marxist revolutionary who actually was
 involved in a successful
 revolution. If you did argue this, then that would
 imply capitalism has
 meant no economic progress at all in any way, which
 is a ridiculous and
 undialectical view.

 I would say that this general dogma or prejudice
 about markets are bad was
 responsible for not a few economic disasters in the
 USSR and China, and it
 hides what the real issue is precisely about, namely
 exactly which property
 relations promote a just and efficient allocation of
 economic resources in
 the given context. It is evident that markets or
 the market is not a
 homogeneous category, but that a wide range of types
 of markets is possible,
 and that what is decisive is the property forms,
 ownership relations, social
 class relations and legal framework within which
 market transactions occur.

 In this context, Marx's own argument as I understand
 it is essentially (1)
 about the generalisation (universalisation) and
 overextension of markets
 based on bourgeois private property relations, which
 acquires an objective,
 independent, reified dynamic, causing a great deal
 of harm to human society,
 as well as developing the productive forces; (2)
 that a dictatorship of the
 proletariat would be able to experiment with a
 variety of property forms,
 in order to discover methods of resource allocation
 which fit best with
 social priorities - an experimentation which cannot
 occur in bourgeois
 society except in a very marginal sense; (3) that
 the historic objective is
 to supplant market allocation increasingly by direct
 methods of allocation
 which are more just, effective and efficient -
 methods which already
 anticipated in society as it exists today in many
 cases.

 The loss of this discourse in the socialist movement
 divides radicalism into
 two camps: sectarian socialists jabbering and
 blabbering about reform
 versus revolution without knowing what they are
 talking about, and applying
 wrongheaded critiques of social democracy, on the
 one hand; and Greenies who
 want to introduce all sorts of alternatives with a
 deformed view of what
 markets are, and how they really function in
 capitalist society, abstracting
 from the relations of social classes in so doing.
 If this situation continues, we might as well kiss
 socialism goodbye.

 Jurriaan

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Re: The Road to Serfdom

2003-08-14 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message -
From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] The Road to Serfdom


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Re: Kautsky and imperialism

2003-08-14 Thread Waistline2
Karl Kautsky : Imperialism and the War
Source: International Socialist Review, November 1914
Translated: William E. Bohn
Transcribed: for marxists.org, March, 2002

If imperialism were necessary to the continued existence of the capitalist
method of production-these arguments against it would make little impression on
the capitalist mind. But they will make a deep impression if imperialism is
only one among several means of achieving this object.

We can say of imperialism what Marx said of capitalism: Monopoly creates
competition and competition creates monopoly.

The violent competition of great concerns led to the formation of trusts and
the destruction of small concerns. Just so there may develop in the present
war a combination of the stronger nations, which will put an end to the
competitive building of armaments.

From a purely economic point of view, therefore, it is not impossible that
capitalism is now to enter upon a new phase, a phase marked by the transfer of
trust methods to international politics, a sort of super-imperialism. The
working class would be forced to fight this new form of capitalism as it did the
old, but the danger from it would lie in a new direction.

This analysis was completed before Austria surprised us with her ultimatum to
Servia. The conflict between these two nations did not result from
imperialistic tendencies alone. In eastern Europe nationalism still plays a role as a
revolutionary force and the present conflict has a nationalist as well as an
imperialist cause. Austria attempted to carry out an imperialist policy; she
annexed Bosnia and appeared to be on the point of bringing Albania within her
sphere of influence. Through these activities she roused the nationalist spirit of
Servia, which felt itself threatened by Austria and thus became a danger to
the Austrian government.

The world-war was brought on, not because imperialism was necessary to
Austria, but because Austria, on account of the peculiarity of its organization,
endangered itself through following an imperialist policy. Such a policy can be
successfully followed only by a state which is internally united and which has
for its field of operations a region far behind it in civilization. But in
this case a state divided against itself, a state half Slavic in population,
attempted to carry out an imperialist policy at the expense of a Slavic neighbor
state which is quite the equal in civilization of the adjacent parts of its
imperialistic enemy. (End of quote)


Re: Isaac Deutscher's anecdote about the readership of Marx's Capital in the ...

2003-08-14 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Michael Perelman wrote:

 I missed this the first time, but this Hitler stuffdoes not belong here.

I agree with you entirely. Melvin P., whoever that is, typically imputes
to me statements and opinions which I do not hold, and then he tells me to
shut up or prove something I am not even concerned with in the given
context. In future, Melvin P. will get zero response from me on PEN-L, and
an extremely nasty response off-list if he deliberately misrepresents my
views in public again.

Jurriaan


Re: Green

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
I wrote:

 But in this particular battle of definitions, I agree with
 all the Yoshies out there. They call anarchism what Mr.
 Marx would call democracy.

I think it's useful to avoid mushing concepts together that way.

I don't see that as mushing. I see it as evolving language.

But we can call it Fred if it helps the discussion along.

I would distinguish between democracy from below (which I
see Yoshie and I as advocating) and democracy from above
(parliamentarism).

Then we are in agreement.

Anarchism is a word that means little in a formal sense.

:)


god, I wish I were. Los Angeles and mediocre Catholic academia
are not good places for activism. Nor do the responsibilities
of fatherhood encourage activism (at least with my kid).

Brother, I know. I meant no offense.

In any event, I was talking about democracy as a basic
political principle. We need such principles to guide our
visions for what we want, along with our strategy and tactics.
I don't see anarchists as providing those.

As a theory of meaning, anarchists are weak. As a theory for action, they are exemplar.

Long life to them,

Ken.



Re: Martix for price discrimination

2003-08-14 Thread Michael Perelman
Right.  What about airline tickets?  There are ways around such laws.

On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 02:58:50PM -0700, andie nachgeborenen wrote:
 Price discrimination is an antitrust violation -- the
 statute is the Robinson-Patman Act -- that can expose
 the defendant to treble damages in a civil action, and
 even if you win you have to pay me, or someone like
 me, really godawful amounts of money to get you off.
 (This is in fact largely what I do for a living.) So,
 the citizen plaintiff is not without recourse! jks


 --- michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Anon. 2003. “Is Price Discrimination The Next Big
  Trend In Commerce?”
  San Jose Mercury News (7 August).
  “The Internet also gives sellers more information
  about consumers than
  ever before -- how many products they buy and when,
  perhaps even how
  many each can afford.  Eventually, two people might
  get the same pop-up
  ad for the same Zippo lighter, but one ad pitches
  them for $15 while
  another says they're $10.”
  “This vision of the Internet is the basis of a new
  analysis from Andrew
  Odlyzko, a former Bell Labs mathematician now at the
  University of
  Minnesota's Digital Technology Center.  Odlyzko
  expects price
  discrimination to become more pervasive not only
  because so much
  personal data is being collected in online commerce
  but also as
  technology, in the name of protecting copyrights,
  limits what people can
  do with online content.”
  “a few years ago, Coca-Cola Co. experimented with a
  vending machine that
  automatically raised prices in hot weather.”
  “the economy could suffer if technology helps
  suppliers engage in price
  discrimination against producers of important goods
  and services.”
 
 http://www.dtc.umn.edu/7/8odlyzko/doc/privacy.economics.pdf
 
 
  --
 
  Michael Perelman
  Economics Department
  California State University
  michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
  Chico, CA 95929
  530-898-5321
  fax 530-898-5901


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Family shot dead by panicking US troops

2003-08-14 Thread Alejandro Valle Baeza
Family shot dead by panicking US troops
Firing blindly during a power cut, soldiers kill a father and three
children in their car
The Independent, By Justin Huggler in Baghdad
10 August 2003


The abd al-Kerim family didn't have a chance. American soldiers opened
fire on their car with no warning and at close quarters. They killed the
father and three of the children, one of them only eight years old. Now
only the mother, Anwar, and a 13-year-old daughter are alive to tell how
the bullets tore through the windscreen and how they screamed for the
Americans to stop.

We never did anything to the Americans and they just killed us, the
heavily pregnant Ms abd al-Kerim said. We were calling out to them 'Stop,
stop, we are a family', but they kept on shooting.

The story of how Adel abd al-Kerim and three of his children were killed
emerged yesterday, exactly 100 days after President George Bush declared
the war in Iraq was over. In Washington yesterday, Mr Bush declared in a
radio address: Life is returning to normal for the Iraqi people ... All
Americans can be proud of what our military and provisional authorities
have achieved in Iraq.

But in this city Iraqi civilians still die needlessly almost every day at
the hands of nervous, trigger-happy American soldiers.

Doctors said the father and his two daughters would have survived if they
had received treatment quicker. Instead, they were left to bleed to death
because the Americans refused to allow anyone to take them to hospital.

It happened at 9.30 at night, an hour after sunset, but long before the
start of the curfew at 11pm. The Americans had set up roadblocks in the
Tunisia quarter of Baghdad, where the abd al-Kerims live. The family
pulled up to the roadblock sensibly, slowly and carefully, so as not to
alarm the Americans.

But then pandemonium broke out. American soldiers were shooting in every
direction. They just turned on the abd al-Kerims' car and sprayed it with
bullets. You can see the holes in the front passenger window and in the
rear window. You can see the blood of the dead all over the grey,
imitation velvet seat covers.

A terrible misunderstanding took place. The Americans thought they were
under attack from Iraqi resistance forces, according to several Iraqi
witnesses. These are the circumstances of most killings of Iraqi
civilians: a US patrol comes under rocket-propelled grenade attack and the
soldiers panic and fire randomly.

This time there was no attack. Another car, driven by an Iraqi youth,
Sa'ad al-Azawi, drove too fast up to another checkpoint further up the
street. Al-Azawi and his two passengers did not hear an order to stop, as
their stereo was turned up too loud. The US soldiers, thinking they were
under attack, panicked and opened fire.

In the darkness of one of Baghdad's frequent power cuts, other US soldiers
on the street heard gunfire and thought they were under attack. They, too,
reacted by opening fire, though they could not see what was going on.
Soldiers manning look-out posts on a nearby building joined in, firing
down the street in the dark.

It was then that the abd al-Kerims drew up to the checkpoint. The
panicking US soldiers turned on their car and shot the family to pieces.

It was anarchy, said Ali al-Issawi, who lives on the street and
witnessed the whole thing. The Americans were firing at each other.

There was plenty of evidence lying in the street under the hot sun. Empty
bullet casings lay everywhere. Bullet holes marked the walls and gates of
nearby houses. Several parked cars were riddled with bullet-holes, their
windows smashed and tyres shredded. From the spread of the bullet holes
all over the street, it was clear the soldiers had fired in every
direction.

Sa'ad al-Azawi, the driver of the other car, was killed. The Americans
dragged his two passengers out and beat them, still thinking they were
resistance, Mr al-Issawi said. Watching from his house nearby, Mr
al-Issawi did not know that al-Azawi was dead, and when the car burst into
flames, he tried to rush over to help the young man.

The Americans did not let me, he said. A soldier came over and told me
'Inside'. He pushed me, even though my eight-year-old daughter was with
me. They didn't let us get the young guy's body out of the car until he
looked like he had been cooked.

Further down the street, Anwar abd al-Kerim, who was heavily pregnant and
had somehow managed to escape injury in the car as bullets rained all
around her, got out of the car, holding her wounded eight-year-old
daughter Mervet, and sought help from her brother, who lived down the
road.

She had to leave in the car her injured daughters, 16-year-old Ia and
13-year-old Haded, along with her husband, Adel, who was bleeding badly
and groaning. Her 18-year-old son, Haider, was already dead. A bullet went
between his eyes.

I saw my sister running towards me with her daughter in her arms and
blood pouring from her, said Ms abd al-Kerim's brother, Tha'er Jawad.
She was 

quotation du jour

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
He's a nice fellow. You can't find a better fraternity brother.
-- Sen. Ernest Hollings, about Pres. Bush-2. 


Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine



Re: The Road to Serfdom

2003-08-14 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message -
From: Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 The real disagreement between Keynes and Hayek was identified by Keynes...
 (as being about) the question of knowing where to draw the line between
 intervention and non-intervention. Keynes's criticism of Hayek was that he
 accepted that the logical extreme of no intervention at all was not
 possible, but gave no guidance in The Road to Serfdom as to where the line
 should be drawn. This was the same criticism made later by the libertarians.
 But unlike them, Keynes thought that it was a matter of practical judgement,
 not principle. He acknowledged that Hayek would draw the line differently
 than he would, but criticized him for underestimating the practicability for
 a middle course. He also argued that since Hayek accepted that a line had to
 be drawn, it was disingenuous of him to imply that 'as soon as one moves an
 inch in the planned direction you are necessarily launched on the slippery
 path which will lead you in due course over the precipice... Keynes proposed
 his middle way as a means of harmonizing individualism and socialism'. -
 Andrew Gamble, Hayek: The Iron Cage of Liberty. Boulder: Westview Press,
 1996, p. 159-160.

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Forwarded from Nestor Gorojovsky (Argentina update)

2003-08-14 Thread Louis Proyect
INTRODUCTION

I owe the list a long posting on Argentinean politics. Rodríguez Saá, the 
Peronist candidate my own group supported critically during the campaign, 
seems to have been shattered by electoral defeat, and my silence may be 
understood as an indication that I have been shattered with my candidate.

Well, news on my shattering are greatly exaggerated (and if we are to 
listen to the hardest core of the imperialist press, even those on 
Rodríguez Saá's, but this is something I can´t discuss here now). As a 
result of my not being shattered at all, however, I am extremely busy, and 
IMHO a good report in English on the Argentinean situation in the last 
couple of months needs more than some minutes snatched off my employer´s time.

Today, I will give my views on Lou Pr.´s posting on what should be done in 
Argentina. But in order to answer, I will have to begin with some comments 
on the general political situation. Since no serious comment of it can fail 
being traced back to the April 27th election and the performance of 
Rodríguez Saá and his MNyP during the election and, particularly, AFTER it, 
in part at least, I am beginning to give my own account of what has 
happened here during these two eventful months.

THE GENERAL SETTING OF THE CURRENT SITUATION: A BOTCHED POST-ELECTORAL 
SITUATION FOR THE LEFT OF THE NATIONAL CAMP

During the Presidential campaign, and against the forebodings of many among 
his followers, Rodríguez Saá expected to arrive to a runoff with Menem and 
overwhelm him. There were times when he would even dream with a result on 
the first round that made the runoff unnecessary. He didn´t accept that 
there would exist a possibility not to be (at the very least) second after 
Menem, and April 27th, which left him out of the Great Game, took him 
completely unawares.

He felt it had been a terrible defeat, a veredict by the Argentinean 
people that they do not want our program now, and decided that for the 
time being, this is Kirchner time. He made many other mistakes, all of 
which in the end turned what was no defeat at all but a grand beginning 
into an actual -post-electoral- defeat.

The MNyP, in spite of many organizative and political shortcomings, in 
spite of the venomous attitude of the media, in spite of the relative 
desire for tranquility that had gained the spirit of the Argentinean masses 
once the worst exponents of neo-liberalism were ejected, managed to impose 
the agenda of the electoral debate, had been unable to beat the immense 
forces conjured up against it. But it had obtained a 15% of the vote for a 
hard, national-revolutionary set of immediate measures (not a general 
programme, but a hundred or so of concrete measures, sometimes even stating 
the date when they would be taken) in a very complex election where the 
strongly government-backed winner obtained 22%.

It would moreover be added that Kirchner got to the Presidency thanks to 
Rodríguez Saá. Without him, Duhalde would have chosen another, more 
moderate, candidate. In order to fight off the man of the default (more 
on this latter on), he had to strike an agreement with the most progressive 
of the mainstream Peronist candidates, a candidate who would have never got 
to Presidency without the MNyP on the streets.

Nothing of the above was enough, however, for Rodríguez Saá, and during the 
first two months after the elections he heaped mistake. That is why I 
stated above that he had not suffered was an _electoral_ defeat, but a 
_post-electoral_ (to a great deal self-inflicted) one. (Some day I hope I 
have the time to go on deeper on this issue, but today cannot do so: those 
who can read Spanish may have interesting insights through the debates 
collected on the Reconquista Popular archives). What really matters here is 
that the net result of Rodríguez Saá's self-injuring blunders was that no 
organized left-wing opposition to Kirchner has appeared _on the national 
camp_, and Kirchner´s first interesting signals won the attention of most 
of the anti-neoliberal voters in Argentina. This is the general setting of 
my reply to Lou´s observation on what is to be done.

THE WHAT IS TO BE DONE ISSUE: CAN THE LEFT OF THE ANTI-NATIONAL CAMP 
FARE BETTER?

Lou Proyect writes:

The more I read about Argentina, the more it appears that the political 
crisis on the left stems from the failure of the Marxist groups to rid 
themselves of sectarian and dogmatic habits. The challenge to the Marxist 
left seems to come primarily from autonomist and libertarian socialist 
figures like Adamovsky who fetishize localized forms of resistance. If you 
stop and think about it, the autonomist left has the same kind of 
micropolitical orientation that the Russian economist current had in the 
early 1900s. All Argentina needs is a few latter-day Lenins who can write a 
What is to be Done updated for the current struggle.

IMHO, this is partly accurate partly wrong.

First, the _accurate_ side. The failure of 

Microsoft loses one

2003-08-14 Thread Eubulides
[ LA Times]
Microsoft Loses UC Patent Case
A jury sets damages of $520.6 million, the largest award ever against the
company.
By Joseph Menn
Times Staff Writer

August 12, 2003

A federal jury found Monday that Microsoft Corp.'s Web browser infringed a
University of California patent and directed the company to pay $520.6
million in damages, the biggest award ever against the Redmond,
Wash.-based software giant.

The jury, which deliberated for two days after a four-week trial, decided
that Microsoft should pay the University of California and Eolas
Technologies Inc., a tiny Chicago company that licenses the technology
from the university.

The 12-member jury determined the damage award by concluding that
Microsoft owed $1.47 for each copy of the Windows operating system that
included Internet Explorer during a nearly three-year period.

Should the verdict stand, the university system could gain 10% of the
award, or about $52 million, under the terms of its licensing contract, a
person familiar with the case said. The university system could use the
money: The recently approved state budget for the 2003-04 fiscal year cut
$410 million in UC programs.

The verdict underscores both the uncertainty of patent issues in the world
of high technology and the variety of legal challenges facing Microsoft.

The dominant maker of basic software for personal computers has settled
cases with federal antitrust officials and classes of consumers but still
is battling a European Union probe, lawsuits by competitors including Sun
Microsystems Inc. and claims by 20 patent holders. In the last three
years, a dozen patent cases against Microsoft have been dismissed before
reaching a jury.

Many successful companies are faced with this type of litigation. We will
continue to vigorously defend our claims, said Microsoft spokesman Jim
Desler.

The technology in question allows Web browsers to alter the display of
Internet pages, by rotating a picture, for example. It was invented by,
among others, Eolas President Michael D. Doyle when he was a professor at
UC San Francisco. The university licensed the patent to Eolas in 1994.

No major maker of browsers has permission to use the technology, said
Eolas attorney Jan Conlin.

The verdict marks Microsoft's first significant loss in a patent case
since 1994, when Stac Electronics in Carlsbad won $120 million. That case
was appealed and then settled for about $80 million.

Though it would take Microsoft less than three weeks to earn enough money
to pay the new judgment, the company said it would appeal.

Before that happens, the judge in the case may hear arguments about
whether more recent sales of Windows should be included in the royalty
calculations and whether, as Microsoft attorneys claim, Doyle misled
patent officials in 1998 about the possibility that someone else developed
similar capabilities before he did.

We are confident the facts will support our position, Desler said.

It's important to note that the court has already rejected claims that
there was any willful infringement. We believe the evidence will
ultimately show that there was no infringement of any kind.

Microsoft investors shrugged off the news, leaving the company's shares
little changed in late trading from their pre-verdict close of $25.61, up
3 cents, on Nasdaq.

Everybody knows that there are legal risks at Microsoft, said U.S.
Bancorp Piper Jaffray analyst Eugene Munster. Get comfortable with it if
you want to own the stock.

Munster predicted that Microsoft would drag the case out in appeals, then
settle. He said Internet Explorer could use different techniques to
achieve the same effect as achieved by the technology at issue, so that
consumers won't perceive any changes if Microsoft is forced to stop using
the technology.

In making their case, Eolas attorneys tried to show that Microsoft had a
small share of the browser market when it began using the disputed
technology in November 1998. By September 2001, the end of the period in
which the jury found infringement, Microsoft had vanquished browser
pioneer Netscape Communications Corp. by including Internet Explorer with
Windows.

The bundling of Explorer with Windows was a key part of the federal and
state antitrust suits against Microsoft and of Netscape's private suit,
which was settled this year for $750 million. In their pursuit of a
claimed $1.2 billion in damages, Eolas' lawyers sought to piggyback on the
antitrust claims.

Eolas is a technology development firm that aims to license its patents.
Its biggest financial success may have been licensing the stylized E in
its logo to IBM Corp., which uses a version for its ebusiness marketing
campaign. And Eolas' trademark claims include one for the phrase invented
here, according to its Web site.

Should Eolas collect from Microsoft, attorney Conlin said, it would expand
its operations.

It has always been Eolas' intent to have an ongoing business, she said.


Re: question on finance capital

2003-08-14 Thread Doug Henwood
I got it from reading Ford's financial statements, maybe 2-3-4 years
ago. I think it came out in an exchange on PEN-L with Patrick Bond.
Doug

michael wrote:

Can you point me to the source, please.  I remember you mentioning this
before.  Was it in LBO?
Doug Henwood wrote:

 michael wrote:

 Business Week describes GM becoming almost entirely dependent on its
 finance unit.  I recall seeing something similar about Ford.
 A few years ago, Ford was making money on its finance division and
 breaking even on cars. But the finance division was almost
 exclusively devoted to financing the purchase of Ford vehicles. So,
 they were capturing a business formerly engaged in by bankers, and
 their finance business was dependent on what they manufactured (which
 undermines the usual postindustrial story).
 Doug
--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901


AG and the bond market

2003-08-14 Thread Eubulides
All talk and no action - how the US bond market rodeo broke away from the
Fed

Charlotte Denny
Monday August 11, 2003
The Guardian

Faced with the harsh reality of cutting the deficit to please the markets,
one aide in the Clinton White House is reported to have said that if he
could be reborn, he'd come back as the bond market. Then I could
intimidate everybody.

After the turmoil in the bond markets over the past two weeks, Alan
Greenspan must be wondering if he should chuck in his day job and get a
job in the bond markets as well.

The market's two-decade long bull run has finally ended, and with it Mr
Greenspan's carefully crafted strategy of keeping long-term interest rates
on government debt (which move in the opposite direction to prices) low to
prop up the economy.

In the early spring when the build up to war had driven the world's
largest economy into what Mr Greenspan called a soft spot, the Fed
embarked upon a deliberate strategy of talking down long-term borrowing
costs.

Members of the Fed's open markets committee (FOMC) talked about radical
solutions like pumping money directly into the economy by buying bonds.
After its May meeting, the Fed made history when it noted that one of the
risks was that inflation could go too low. Even though the FOMC left
borrowing costs unchanged, the markets decided that with central bankers
openly talking about deflation, there was no risk that their returns would
be eroded by rising prices. They snapped up more long-term debt, pushing
down yields even further, giving the economy a boost without the Fed even
having to cut short term borrowing costs.

By mid-June, yields on 10-year treasury bills had reached 3.1%, their
lowest since the late 50s. Encouraged by bargain deals, US households
rushed to remortgage their homes. As in Britain, consumers took the
opportunity to extract some of the equity out of their homes, switching to
larger but cheaper mortgages, and then spent the proceeds - sometimes
paying off more expensive credit card debt, but more often in America's
malls and car showrooms, keeping the economy ticking over at a time when
business was still too nervous to start investing.

But the party ended abruptly in late June when the Fed surprised the mar
kets with a smaller than expected borrowing cut - just 25 basis points -
and played down the chances that it might have to resort to unorthodox
techniques such as buying long-term bonds to keep the economy afloat.
Long-term yields have risen by 1% since mid-June, back to more normal
levels, but pushing the rate on a 15-year mortgage up from about 4.5% to
more than 6%. Unsurprisingly, remortgaging has collapsed, and with it,
some worry, the fledgling US recovery.

Stephen Lewis, at Monument Securi ties in London, says there was a fatal
flaw at the heart of the Fed's policy. As householders remortgaged, the
duration of their loans dropped, forcing the lenders to buy up more
long-dated debt to rebalance their portfolios, thus exacerbating the bond
bubble. The reverse process occurred when yields started rising, and
households cut back on remortgaging. To prevent their portfolios
lengthening, players in the mortgage backed market sold bonds, reinforcing
the fall in prices and rise in yields. The mortgage-backed market is now
one and half times the size of the treasuries market, raising questions
about whether risks can be safely laid off on to government debt. Mr Lewis
doubts they can. The Fed, he says, has created a self-destruct mechanism
at the heart of the US financial system. With cruel precision, such a
mechanism could be triggered only when investors begin to feel better
about economic prospects.

The sharp switch in investors' expectations may also prompt
reconsideration about whether the Fed should follow other central banks in
adopting an inflation target. Although on paper the Fed is the least
transparent of the world's large central banks, in practice it has been
the easiest one for markets to predict. Research by Joachim Fels at Morgan
Stanley shows that economists polled ahead of central bank meetings have a
much better track record at predicting the FOMC than either the European
Central Bank governing board, or the Bank of England's monetary policy
committee. The reason is that the Fed usually signals its moves in advance
through speeches by FOMC members.

This time, however, the Fed has seriously wrongfooted the markets to the
point where some are wondering what its strategy really is. In the spring
it seemed the idea was to keep short-term interest rates low as an
insurance against the risk of outright falls in prices, while holding up
the possibility that if a Japanese-style deflationary spiral threatened,
the Fed would use tactics like buying up bonds to expand the money supply.
Since June, however, the markets have simply been confused.

The statement following this week's Fed meeting will be all the more
closely scrutinised as a result. The bond market appears to have decided
that the 

Re: The Road to Serfdom

2003-08-14 Thread joanna bujes
Michael Perelman wrote:

Actually, there are three things.  Humor is also forbidden.

I didn't know that. I suspected it was more a case of self-censorship :)

Joanna


Reply to an Observer article by the Italian Refounded CP

2003-08-14 Thread Louis Proyect
I am commenting on selected passages from an article that can be read in
its entirety at:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1016107,00.html


Reformist social democracy is no longer on the agenda
The anti-globalisation movement is the basis of a left alternative
Fausto Bertinotti
The anti-globalisation movement is the first movement that represents a
break with the 20th century and its truths and myths. At present it is
the main source of politics for an alternative to the global right.
When, on February 15, 100 million people took to the streets, the New
York Times referred to it as a second world power, a power that in the
name of peace opposed those who wanted war.
But the February 15th demonstrations were mounted despite the grumbling
of Michael Hardt that it was diverting attention from the real
movement, namely anti-globalization.
It has countered the crisis of democracy with embryonic new democratic
institutions. It has challenged the division of political labour among
trade unions, parties and cooperatives and shifted the focus of
political debate from institutions to social relations, bringing
feelings and everyday life back into the realm of politics.
It has also tackled the theme of power, in terms not of achieving and
keeping it, but of transforming, dissolving and reconstructing power
through self-government. And it has challenged the model of a party
leading the movement, proposing instead the notion of networks and links
among groups, associations, parties and newspapers.
transforming, dissolving and reconstructing power through
self-government? Does anybody know what he is saying? I certainly don't.
An alternative European left can find its strategy only within the
anti-globalisation movement. The key issue both for the movement and for
us is the clash between peace and war. The movement has identified the
global dimension of war and the fact that it is inbuilt in a system
which cannot do without it. It was this conviction that turned the
anti-globalisation movement into the backbone of the peace movement.
Really? As far as I can tell, the backbone of the peace movement in the
USA is the much-pilloried ANSWER coalition. Meanwhile, the UPJ, which
has much more of a quotient of antiglobalization outfits like Global
Exchange in its ranks, is working overtime to figure out how to involve
the movement in stopping Bush. For veterans of the American left,
especially those familiar with the CPUSA, this can mean only one thing
and it ain't good. And you also have the hard-core anti-globalization
black block types, like Chuck Zero, who despise UPJ and ANSWER equally.
The animosity seems driven by the same considerations that perturb
Michael Hardt. With imperialism going at full blast, they wish that the
mass movement would return to breaking Starbucks windows--as if that
will get US troops out of Iraq or prevent nuclear war with North Korea.
In Italy, the Refounded Communists, together with others, tried to do
this through the referendum on extending employment protection to all
workers. We were defeated, but the referendum took its inspiration from
the movement, the idea of the struggle for equal rights against job
insecurity. This battle, however, has not taken on a European dimension.
The European trade unions decided not to call a general strike against
the war, which would have also been a boost to the fight against
neo-liberalism.
Now there is the chance of re-opening a Europe-wide battle over the
welfare state. In the face of converging government policies, only an
organisation fighting at European level can make its case.
I have no idea why this should be a precondition. When the
multinationals in combination with the comprador bourgeoisie in Bolivia
tried to privatize water, the indigenous people fought like hell to beat
 back this attack and they were successful. The way to move forward in
politics is militancy, not necessarily creating continent-wide
formations. It seems to me that the main problem in Europe is not
related to geography but to opportunism, a long-time problem for the
left that predates Naomi Klein. When the French left backed Chirac, it
ceded ground to the class enemy. Moves such as this have to be
challenged in order for us to go on the offensive.
Unless they move in this direction, the European anti-capitalist
leftwing parties risk disappearing in terms of political representation;
and within the anti-globalisation movement there could develop a
temptation to flee from politics. The forces of the European left cannot
depend on social democracy. They must break away with a radical, united
initiative. Not only the prospects of the left and the
anti-globalisation movement, but even the existence of Europe as an
autonomous entity, is at stake.


Hate to sound old-fashioned, but what about socialism?


* Fausto Bertinotti is national secretary of Italy's Refounded Communist
party (Rifondazione Comunista) and a member of the Italian and European
parliaments.

Re: Green

2003-08-14 Thread Mike Ballard
--- Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 the one thing that all anarchists seem to agree with
 is that centralized government (the state) should be
 abolished -- as soon as possible.

The State is the governmental expression of class
rule.
I've never met anyone--anarchists included--who argued
that that State could be abolished by decree.  All
socialists worth their salt (and most anarchists worth
their salt are socialists e.g. Chomsky) realize that
the State cannot be replaced with self-government
until classes have ceased to exist.  Classes cannot
die out until the social revolution is made and that
can't be done without its being an act of the class
workers themselves.


Wobbly greetings,
Mike B)


But without a
 centralized govt, how do people deal with issues
 that affect us all, e.g., global warming? how do we
 prevent the neighboring anarchist collective from
 building nukes?

 I prefer Marx, whose vision of the withering away
 of the state (as I understand it) refers to the
 _subodination_ of the state to the people, so that
 the _distinction_ between the state and society
 withers away.

 That's a long-term goal, one that can't be achieved
 if one abolishes the state as soon as possible.
 Abolition of the state NOW simply unleashes the
 forces of Hobbesian havoc  (anarchy in the worst
 sense of the word) that are present in
 actually-existing capitalist society. Instead, the
 state needs to be controlled.

 Some anarchists would say that delaying the
 withering away was opportunist or something,
 allowing a new class of state managers to arise. But
 abolishing the state right away allows rule by those
 with the most AK-47s.

 of course, it ain't bloody likely that the state
 will be abolished soon -- unless the system melts
 down.  I doubt that an environmental crisis would
 produce a very attractive anarchy.

 The IWW (OBU) was great, as a first step in the
 development of a working-class movement. Politics
 are needed too.

 Jim

   -Original Message-
   From: Yoshie Furuhashi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Sent: Tue 8/12/2003 7:31 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc:
   Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Green



   is there a color which represents democracy? I'd
 prefer democracy to
   anarchism (which precludes democracy).
   Jim

   Anarchy, to me, means democracy, i.e., collective
 self-government,
   the very ideal to which Lenin spoke in _The State
 and Revolution.
   Not all those who call themselves anarchists agree
 with me on this
   interpretation, though.  :-

   I also like the idea of One Big Union.  Would you
 have freedom from
   wage slavery?  Then come join the Grand Industrial
 Band!  Would you
   from mis'ry and hunger be free?  Come on, do your
 share, lend a
   hand!  Listen to Utah Phillips sing the Joe Hill
 song There Is a
   Power in a Union at


http://video.pbs.org:8080/ramgen/joehill/UPThereIsPowerInAUnion.rm?altplay=UPThereIsPowerInAUnion.rm.

   I like the Black Cat log of the Industrial Workers
 of the World, too
   (I have a T-shirt with the logo on it), except that
 cats rarely go
   for collective actions.  :-0
   --
   Yoshie

   * Bring Them Home Now!
 http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/
   * Calendars of Events in Columbus:
   http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/calendar.html,
   http://www.freepress.org/calendar.php, 
 http://www.cpanews.org/
   * Student International Forum:
 http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/
   * Committee for Justice in Palestine:
 http://www.osudivest.org/
   * Al-Awda-Ohio:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Al-Awda-Ohio
   * Solidarity: http://solidarity.igc.org/





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Re: Reply to an Observer article by the Italian Refounded CP

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
I'd say the Empire thesis has some life in it yet.

in 25 words or less, how would you summarize the Empire thesis? 

Jim



US, Eu cut farm deal

2003-08-14 Thread Eubulides
EU and US seal farm trade deal

Mark Tran
Wednesday August 13, 2003
The Guardian

The EU and the US today agreed on a joint plan for agricultural trade
reform designed to boost the chances of success at global trade talks next
month.

The plan, to be put to the full World Trade Organisation (WTO) membership
later today, came as negotiators tried to make headway before the crucial
ministerial meeting next month in Mexico.

The proposal, which still needs approval from EU member states, was
concluded late yesterday negotiators after several weeks of intensive
talks.

There is an agreement in principle, said the EU ambassador to the WTO,
Carlo Trojan.

Few details of the accord were immediately available, but diplomats said
it covered the three key areas of agricultural trade - domestic support,
export subsidies and market access.

The two main sticking points had been export subsidies and market access.
The EU felt it was unjustly targeted for providing export refunds to its
farmers while US export credits were off the negotiating table. On market
access, the EU wanted smaller cuts on import tariffs than the US.

Today's deal between the world's two largest providers of farm subsidies
followed what the EU described as landmark reform of its common
agricultural policy (CAP) in June. In that package, the EU agreed to break
the link between subsidies and farm output and so reduce the surplus
produce Europe dumps in poor countries, where the practice bankrupts local
farmers.

Trade ministers from the developing world have already dismissed the CAP
reform as a fudge because it leaves the worst excesses of the Û40bn
(£28bn) programme untouched. Nevertheless, it paved the way for today's
deal.

Agriculture is one of the stickiest issues for the WTO, with the EU and a
handful of other countries with strong agricultural lobbies pitted against
the US, Canada, New Zealand and Australia, as well as developing
countries.

The latter argue that farm subsidies paid by rich states - running to over
$300bn (£186.5bn) a year - prevent them from competing on equal terms in
international markets.

Despite giving heavy financial support to its own farmers, the US had
allied itself with major agricultural exporters such as Argentina, Brazil
and other members of the Cairns group in calling for the sharp cuts in
tariffs and an end to export subsidies.

The EU and individual WTO members such as Japan, South Korea, Switzerland
and Norway have demanded a more gradual approach. An EU official admitted
that today's compromise might not satisfy the Cairns group.

ActionAid, an international development agency, argues that rich countries
must agree to slash their subsidies, while allowing poor countries
flexibility to develop policies to support small-scale farmers.

With only weeks to go before the Cancun meeting, WTO negotiators face an
enormous task in bridging differences on thorny issues such as
agriculture, access to cheap medicines and investment.

WTO members were supposed to have reached a common position on agriculture
back in March, and the overall talks that began nearly two years ago in
Doha are supposed to be wrapped up by the end of 2004.


Re: The Road to Serfdom

2003-08-14 Thread Carrol Cox
I don't believe I've engaged in this argument over market socialism
since the days of the first Spoons marxism list -- and I'm not going to
now. But I have a sort of external observation.

However socialism arrives, if it ever does, not much will change
overnight. So early socialism will be, tautologically, a market
socialism in process. I presume that jumbled market socialism will exist
in a context of high political participation (after all, any socialist
regime will arise, peacefully or violently, out of a mass movement and
the revolutionizing practice which such a mass movement implies) --
and _that_ is the context in which it will be possible and necessary to
debate the ways in which the market will be modified, transformed,
eliminated, etc. I think it is the nature of the issue that debates on
it at present will just go round and round, see Omar the Tentmaker.

Carrol


Re: how to lead the revolution

2003-08-14 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote:

I have a sense that we tend to discuss radical economic strategy for other
countries -- and probably for our own -- with a tone that sounds like
books that tell people how to raise children or win the affection of
others.
Aren't radical economists supposed to have the expertise to do that?
People look to us, man. I don't have a lot of answers, and it often
embarrasses me. We can affect a certain modesty - it's not for us to
prescribe, we should listen to the people - and while there's a
certain truth to that, it's also a lot of buck-passing.
Doug


Re: Green

2003-08-14 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
is there a color which represents democracy? I'd prefer democracy to
anarchism (which precludes democracy).
Jim
Anarchy, to me, means democracy, i.e., collective self-government,
the very ideal to which Lenin spoke in _The State and Revolution.
Not all those who call themselves anarchists agree with me on this
interpretation, though.  :-
I also like the idea of One Big Union.  Would you have freedom from
wage slavery?  Then come join the Grand Industrial Band!  Would you
from mis'ry and hunger be free?  Come on, do your share, lend a
hand!  Listen to Utah Phillips sing the Joe Hill song There Is a
Power in a Union at
http://video.pbs.org:8080/ramgen/joehill/UPThereIsPowerInAUnion.rm?altplay=UPThereIsPowerInAUnion.rm.
I like the Black Cat log of the Industrial Workers of the World, too
(I have a T-shirt with the logo on it), except that cats rarely go
for collective actions.  :-0
--
Yoshie
* Bring Them Home Now! http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/
* Calendars of Events in Columbus:
http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/calendar.html,
http://www.freepress.org/calendar.php,  http://www.cpanews.org/
* Student International Forum: http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/
* Committee for Justice in Palestine: http://www.osudivest.org/
* Al-Awda-Ohio: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Al-Awda-Ohio
* Solidarity: http://solidarity.igc.org/


Isaac Deutscher's anecdote about the readership of Marx's Capital in the glory days of Classical marxism

2003-08-14 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
'Das Kapital' sei eine zu harte Nuss, meinte Ignacy Daszynski, einer der
bekanntesten sozialistischen 'Volkstribune' um die Jahrhundertwende, er habe
es deshalb nicht gelesen. Aber Karl Kautsky habe es gelesen und vom ersten
Band eine populäre Zusammenfassung geschrieben. Diese habe er zwar ebenfalls
nicht rezipiert, aber Kelles-Krausz, der Partei-Theoretiker, habe Kautskys
Buch gelesen und es zusammengefasst. Kelles-Krausz Schrift habe er zwar auch
nicht gelesen, aber der Finanzexperte der Partei, Hermann Diamand, habe sie
gelesen und ihm, Daszynski, alles darüber erzählt.

Source: http://www.rote-ruhr-uni.org/seminare/lesekreis.shtml

(Capital is a tough nut to crack, opined Ignacy Daszynski, one of the most
wellknown socialist people's tribunes around the turn of the 20th century,
but anyhow he had not read it. But, he said, Karl Kautsky had read it, and
written a popular summary of the first volume. He hadn't read this either,
but Kelles-Krausz, the party theoretician, had read Kautsky's pamphlet and
summarised it. He also had not read Kelles-Krausz's text, but the financial
expert of the party, Hermann Diamand, had read it and had told him, i.e.
Daszynski, everything about it).

I think Deutscher's essay on Das Kapital appeared in English in his
collection of essays Marxism in our time.

Jurriaan



immunity for oil companies in Iraq

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
From MS SLATE's on-line summary of major US newspapers today:
The LA [TIMES] goes inside with word of concerns over an executive order
signed by President Bush two months ago that may give U.S. oil
companies blanket immunity from lawsuits and criminal prosecution
over the sale of Iraqi oil. As written, the executive order
cancels the rule of law for oil companies, a lawyer for the
non-profit Government Accountability Project says. According to
the group, the measure cancels out liability--even if it\'s proved
that the companies committed human rights violations or caused
environmental damage in the course of their Iraqi-related
business. The White House, however, says the immunity won\'t be
that broad--and instead protects the Iraqi people\'s money since
profits from the sales will go into rebuilding the country. 

Jim



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