Re: [PLUG] Temperature and Raspberry Pi.
I found a more current project and have one of my TEMPER2 sensors reading correctly. Seems that I can only do one sensor at a time, but that's a start ;-) This project uses CherryPy. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Temperature and Raspberry Pi.
> I would highly recommend the Maxim DS18B20 as mentioned in the link > by > Chuck if you need something more accurate. They cost under $2 in the > waterproof version. > Hat-down to the analog designers @ Maxim designing them so precise > within this wide temperature and voltage range (±0.5°C Accuracy from > -10°C to +85°C @ Vdd=3-5.5V) <-- the probe + reference + A/D > convertor > are at the same hot/cold temperature and at variable voltage for > about > $1 per sensor delivered. Amazing, in my opinion. > I hope it helps, Tomas Using the GPIO pins would work if I needed one temperature, but I'm trying to monitor the temperature of the air coming out of 7 servers. Maybe I need different scripts or maybe I need a special out of tree driver. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Temperature and Raspberry Pi.
I am using a Raspberry Pi 3 2016 Model B.
I'm trying to use USB TEMPer2 Thermometers to detect the temperature
of ice water and the temperature of nearly boiling water. I am not
getting the correct temperatures.
pi@raspbypi:~/project $ cat temper-pi.txt
http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/temper-pi
pi@raspbypi:~/project $
pi@raspbypi:~/project $ lsusb
Bus 001 Device 010: ID 0c45:7401 Microdia
Bus 001 Device 009: ID 0c45:7401 Microdia
Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0c45:7401 Microdia
Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0409:0058 NEC Corp. HighSpeed Hub
Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0a81:0205 Chesen Electronics Corp. PS/2
Keyboard+Mouse Adapter
Bus 001 Device 011: ID 0c45:7401 Microdia
Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0c45:7401 Microdia
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0409:0058 NEC Corp. HighSpeed Hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0424:ec00 Standard Microsystems Corp.
SMSC9512/9514 Fast Ethernet Adapter
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0424:9514 Standard Microsystems Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
pi@raspbypi:~/project $
pi@raspbypi:~/project $ lsusb -t
/: Bus 01.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=dwc_otg/1p, 480M
|__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Hub, Driver=hub/5p, 480M
|__ Port 1: Dev 3, If 0, Class=Vendor Specific Class,
Driver=smsc95xx, 480M
|__ Port 2: Dev 4, If 0, Class=Hub, Driver=hub/4p, 480M
|__ Port 1: Dev 6, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device,
Driver=, 1.5M
|__ Port 1: Dev 6, If 1, Class=Human Interface Device,
Driver=, 1.5M
|__ Port 4: Dev 11, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device,
Driver=, 1.5M
|__ Port 4: Dev 11, If 1, Class=Human Interface Device,
Driver=, 1.5M
|__ Port 3: Dev 5, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device,
Driver=usbhid, 1.5M
|__ Port 3: Dev 5, If 1, Class=Human Interface Device,
Driver=usbhid, 1.5M
|__ Port 4: Dev 7, If 0, Class=Hub, Driver=hub/4p, 480M
|__ Port 1: Dev 8, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device,
Driver=, 1.5M
|__ Port 1: Dev 8, If 1, Class=Human Interface Device,
Driver=, 1.5M
|__ Port 2: Dev 9, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device,
Driver=, 1.5M
|__ Port 2: Dev 9, If 1, Class=Human Interface Device,
Driver=, 1.5M
|__ Port 4: Dev 10, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device,
Driver=, 1.5M
|__ Port 4: Dev 10, If 1, Class=Human Interface Device,
Driver=, 1.5M
pi@raspbypi:~/project $
pi@raspbypi:~/project/temper-python $ cat take_temps.bash
#!/bin/bash
while (true)
do
sudo temper-poll -p
sleep 10
done
@raspbypi:~/project/temper-python $ ./take_temps.bash
Found 5 devices
Device #0 (bus 1 - port 4): 25.1°C 77.1°F
Device #1 (bus 1 - port 2): 24.1°C 75.3°F
Device #2 (bus 1 - port 1): 21.5°C 70.7°F
Device #3 (bus 1 - port 4): 23.8°C 74.9°F
Device #4 (bus 1 - port 1): 23.2°C 73.8°F
Found 5 devices
Device #0 (bus 1 - port 4): 25.1°C 77.1°F
Device #1 (bus 1 - port 2): 24.1°C 75.3°F
Device #2 (bus 1 - port 1): 21.5°C 70.7°F
Device #3 (bus 1 - port 4): 23.8°C 74.9°F
Device #4 (bus 1 - port 1): 23.2°C 73.8°F
Found 5 devices
Device #0 (bus 1 - port 4): 25.1°C 77.1°F
Device #1 (bus 1 - port 2): 24.1°C 75.4°F
Device #2 (bus 1 - port 1): 21.5°C 70.7°F
Device #3 (bus 1 - port 4): 23.8°C 74.9°F
Device #4 (bus 1 - port 1): 23.2°C 73.8°F
Found 5 devices
Device #0 (bus 1 - port 4): 25.1°C 77.1°F
Device #1 (bus 1 - port 2): 24.1°C 75.4°F
Device #2 (bus 1 - port 1): 21.5°C 70.7°F
Device #3 (bus 1 - port 4): 23.8°C 74.9°F
Device #4 (bus 1 - port 1): 23.2°C 73.8°F
Found 5 devices
Device #0 (bus 1 - port 4): 25.1°C 77.1°F
Device #1 (bus 1 - port 2): 24.2°C 75.5°F
Device #2 (bus 1 - port 1): 21.5°C 70.7°F
Device #3 (bus 1 - port 4): 23.8°C 74.9°F
Device #4 (bus 1 - port 1): 23.2°C 73.8°F
Found 5 devices
Device #0 (bus 1 - port 4): 25.1°C 77.1°F
Device #1 (bus 1 - port 2): 24.2°C 75.5°F
Device #2 (bus 1 - port 1): 21.5°C 70.7°F
Device #3 (bus 1 - port 4): 23.8°C 74.9°F
Device #4 (bus 1 - port 1): 23.2°C 73.8°F
^C
Please note the following changes to Raspbian, Jessie I believe...
pi@raspbypi:~/project/temper-python $ cat /boot/cmdline.txt
dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=serial0,115200 console=tty1
root=/dev/mmcblk0p7 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline fsck.repair=yes
rootwait quiet splash plymouth.ignore-serial-consoles
usbhid.quirks=0x0c45:0x7401:0x4
pi@raspbypi:~/project/temper-python $ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/99-
tempsensor.rules SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ACTION=="add",
ATTRS{idVendor}=="0c45", ATTRS{idProduct}=="7401", MODE="666"
The above changes allow non non root users to use temper-python and
they should prevent problems with the sensors being identified as
keyboards?
The following is an excerpt out of dmesg:
[ 206.199665] usb 1-1.2.1: new low-speed USB device number 14 using
dwc_otg
[ 206.317607] usb 1-1.2.1: New USB device found, idVendor=0c45,
idProduct=7401
[ 206.317619] usb 1-1.2.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
SerialNumber=0
[ 206.317626] usb 1-1.2.1: Product: TEMPer2_M12_V1.3
[ 206.317633] usb 1-1.2.1:
[PLUG] TEMPer v 25.6 Linux...
I'm trying to use it with my shiny new Raspberry Pi 3 2016 model B. I'm running Debian Jessie, but it's called Raspbian. Does anyone know if a different driver is available for version 25.6 of the thermometer? There is version 1.4, a driver exists for that. Unfortunately, there are so many temper usb thermometers that require different software. I'm curious if the Raspberry Pi can run apache and post temperature information to a web site? How many thermometers can I hook up to the Raspberry Pi simultaneously? I don't have just power to think about, I have to think about how much data the Raspberry Pi can deal with. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Slackpkg...
I'm running slackware 14.2 on a very simple server. The box is only a Pentium 4, so I decidedly don't want X Windows and I want to save space. I started out with slackware 14.1 and xfce I believe. I am manually removing via pkgtool everything X11 that is obvious and a few other things, but manual is dangerous. Is there a better way with slackpkg to catch those remaining libraries that can be removed safely to save even more space? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Plexmediaserver Slackware...
I'm trying to upgrade to Slackware 14.2 right now. Hopefully, that will make a significant difference in getting plex media server working. Debian is officially supported, but I'm not comfortable with it. I guess Fedora and CentOS are also supported. I'm a little worried that the makers of Plex Media Server are possibly violating the GPLv2. Got that the internal libraries in Slackware have changed significantly. It will take a while to update. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Plexmediaserver Slackware...
I've installed via the latest 32 bit debian package of Plex Media Server on a Slackware 14.1 server. I'm wondering if there's a problem with the slackbuild. plexmediaserver_1.2.7.2987-1bef33a_i386.deb I'm seeing strange behavior trying to start Plex: root@dodo:~/source# /etc/rc.d/rc.plexmediaserver start Starting plexmediaserver... root@dodo:~/source# 6 3000 /var/lib/plexmediaserver/Library/Application Support 8192 What is causing the last line? To get a shell prompt back, I have to press enter. Trying to log into the server via: http://dodo.w2.robinson-west.pri:32400/web Can I only set this up from localhost??? On the left side I see an endless, "Looking for servers..." Any help much appreciated, but I'm increasingly thinking that I need Debian and I'm wondering which version I need to get this working. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Linux job hunting...
I have a major problem, I'm a college grad in computer science with 0 years of experience. That PSU allows this when granting a degree is sad, but that's another issue for another time. Everything I can find is for senior level people and a lot of the programming jobs require .NET or some other Microsoft thing. Short of an internship, no college graduate can have experience programming in a Linux or any other environment professionally. How do you land a job in this market? With Intel laying off so many senior level people, I cannot compete with the talent out there. The tech industry in Oregon doesn't need college graduates and doesn't seem to want them either. I'm thinking of volunteering somewhere, possibly at freegeek. Thing is, I need coding experience. The only other thing I can think to do is build a code repository and certify in Java. Don't know if there are Python, C++, PHP, and Perl certifications that companies care about. I'm looking at seasonal work in retail because I can't get a computer job. That doesn't cut it, I worked too hard for a degree in computer science to be shut out of the field. I need in, I'm too old to wait: 1, 5, or 10 years longer for that first progamming job. I've been job hunting for 2 years as it is. Interested in any good tips or advice people may have. I admit I'm discouraged, but I'm not giving up. Giving up won't solve the problem of being unable to land that first programming job. This isn't a situation I want to deal with much longer, an entry level programming job would be very welcome. Barring that, all I can think to do is prove I have the experience necessary to function in a more senior position. That's a heck of a place to start though. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Trouble on the horde mailing list...
I'm getting blocked apparently. I'm having trouble lately with horde webmail 5.2.16 running on CentOS 6.x. Might be that CentOS 6.x is incompatible with the latest release of horde. I tried to ask about the specific error I'm getting and got this back: You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at horde-ow...@lists.horde.org. The following is what I tried to send that got rejected: Missing required connection parameter(s). I'm using MariaDB that comes with Slackware 14.1. I'm using Horde Groupware 5.2.16. Is this a problem with my MariaDB config or my Horde config? How do I provide my horde config? -- Michael C. Robinson I'm wondering if I should switch to Zimbra instead, but Zimbra looks proprietary and I'm having a hard time finding a cost associated with it. A free webmail framework is great, until you can't get support for it. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Slackware 14.1 IPX
I want to implement an IPX router on a Slackware 14.1 based gateway. Currently, an old 98se/XP Pro machine uses two network cards. One card bypasses the gateway and runs IPX only. The other card does IPv4 to the gateway. It would be preferable to remove the second network card from the Windows machine. I know back in the Redhat 6.2 days that IPX networking was well supported. Do the tools compile today? Where do I Linux-3 and Linux-4 compatible source code for the IPX tools? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] net responsibility
Apparently, the future of net responsibility is murky. Net responsibility aims to be an OSS replacement for Covenant Eyes. The main plus, it works on Linux. The project needs more C++ developers and has been in trouble since at least 2013. Few problems trying to get it to work on Fedora 24. First off, you need an old version of poco. Poco-1.4.7-all is what you need. As far as I can tell, you have to compile with --omit=Data/MySQL. When you compile net-responsibility and do a make install, you are asked for your username and password. Unfortunately, I can't get the registration email from net-responsibility's web site. I'd recommend that the server net-responsibility sends it's data to could be inside a company's network or inside a person's home instead of hosted at net-responsibility's web site. One major improvement that net-responsibility needs, it needs to be made multi-user aware. User a of system foo might have different allowances than user b. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] net-responsibility
Anyone know if net-responsibility is still being actively developed? Is anyone else having trouble registering on the net-responsibility site? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Net Responsibility.
I'm trying to compile it on Fedora 24 workstation. I downloaded version 3.0.3. First I tried to find an rpm, no dice. I suspect that net-responsibility may require poco-1.4.2, which is old. The current poco complete version is 1.7.4. I tried the rpm, think on rpmforge, and net-responsibility doesn't work with it. Accountablity software seems to be lacking on Linux. Thing is, I think net-responsiblity is the only Linux compatible accountability software that is being actively developed. Unfortunately, there is a strong focus on Ubuntu which is Debian based where I'm using Fedora which is Redhat based. There is also slackware which has it's own package management that is different from both Redhat and Debian. [michael@eagle64 net-responsibility-3.0.3]$ make make all-am make[1]: Entering directory '/home/michael/temp/net-responsibility- 3.0.3' /bin/sh ./libtool --tag=CXX --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I./include -DPKGDATADIR='/usr/share/net-responsibility' -DPKGLIBDIR='/usr/lib64/net-responsibility' -DDATABASEDIR='/var/log' -DPIDDIR='/var/run' -I./include -g -O2 -g -O2 -MT ./src/libNetResponsibility_la-MainApplication.lo -MD -MP -MF ./src/.deps/libNetResponsibility_la-MainApplication.Tpo -c -o ./src/libNetResponsibility_la-MainApplication.lo `test -f './src/MainApplication.cpp' || echo './'`./src/MainApplication.cpp libtool: compile: g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I./include -DPKGDATADIR=/usr/share/net-responsibility -DPKGLIBDIR=/usr/lib64/net- responsibility -DDATABASEDIR=/var/log -DPIDDIR=/var/run -I./include -g -O2 -g -O2 -MT ./src/libNetResponsibility_la-MainApplication.lo -MD -MP -MF ./src/.deps/libNetResponsibility_la-MainApplication.Tpo -c ./src/MainApplication.cpp -fPIC -DPIC -o ./src/.libs/libNetResponsibility_la-MainApplication.o In file included from ./include/MyXml.h:38:0, from ./include/Options.h:33, from ./include/MainApplication.h:34, from ./src/MainApplication.cpp:21: ./include/Blacklist.h:33:30: fatal error: Poco/Data/Common.h: No such file or directory ^ compilation terminated. Makefile:690: recipe for target 'src/libNetResponsibility_la- MainApplication.lo' failed make[1]: *** [src/libNetResponsibility_la-MainApplication.lo] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/michael/temp/net-responsibility- 3.0.3' Makefile:348: recipe for target 'all' failed make: *** [all] Error 2 [michael@eagle64 net-responsibility-3.0.3]$ I suspect that /usr/local/include/Poco/Data/Common.h doesn't exist because that file got dropped in the current release of poco. One way to address this, not ideal, is to install the older version of Poco. Another way to address this, much better, is to port net- responsibility to the current version of Poco. If anyone knows of a Fedora 24 compatible rpm for net-responsibility I'd love to hear about it. Any tips on porting this software to the current Poco will also be appreciated. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Running out of disk space LVM...
Disks are fairly inexpensive. Anything under IT, you can get an SSD instead of a hard disk for a somewhat reasonable price. Advantages are higher speed and greater reliability. If you have an existing Linux system where you absolutely cannot lose the system but you need more space, consider buying a bigger disk or add an SSD. I think the person's disk is 250G, so get a 500G SSD and dedicate the whole entire disk to boot, swap, and /. For 500G, an SSD will cost around $200 or less. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-850-EVO-500-GB-Internal-2-5-MZ-75E500B- AM-SSD-/252467674737?hash=item3ac83efe71:g:mrkAAOSw0HVWC6yK I've had very good luck with Samsung SSDs. There should be a way with the LVM2 tools to copy / to a new disk or SSD. A 1 terabyte SSD isn't too expensive. Consider /, boot, and swap on a 1 TB disk or SSD. If you copy your existing system to a larger disk and disconnect the original drive, your chances of borking your system beyond retrieval are lessened. I'm not recommending E-Bay to buy an SSD, but I've bought a number of these from E-Bay and haven't had any issues. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Horde trouble...
I'm running horde 5.2.15 and no matter which application I use there is a problem of the session expiring. Your session has expired, you need to log in again. Uge! ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Ban me? Ban yourselves.
If you don't like me bringing up open source projects that don't involve Linux, you don't have to read the PLUG list. You should listen to David Mandel who says that bringing up non Linux OSS is acceptable. If you don't like religious comments from me, you don't have to put up with them from Keith or anyone else either. Same goes for political comments. --Don't take the next two paragraphs too seriously-- Know what I should do, I should come to the PLUG meeting with enough dynamite strapped to my body to take out a building. I'd go to hell for it, but at least I'd take some bigots down with me. Seriously though, I'm not going to join the conservative army of the Midwest unless Obama becomes president again and ruins whats left of our economy. When that happens, all bets are off. When the second civil war comes, at least I know which side I'll be on. When eastern Oregon purges western Oregon of liberal life hating democrats, I know which side I'll be on. Those who pollute my home with their socialist and anti life rhetoric will see no mercy shown to them. Still reading? No, I'm not a sleeping terrorist. This should be seen as far enough out there that it can make a point, but not cause undo alarm. How do you think the list reads for me when people twist every comment I make and preferentially target me for ridicule? I don't believe in worship of one's wife. I do not believe that high taxes on the rich is a legitimate strategy to stimulate the economy, but I am adamant about protecting the environment and helping the poor. Taxing the rich to give jobs to the poor will only undermine people's incentive to work. I am still deeply offended by Keith's wife worship and I will never apologize to Keith concerning the vulgar display he put on here. Indeed, nobody can have a religious or political opinion that is not in line with those who are receiving preferential treatment here. Why should I have to put up with wife idolatry or comments on how great Obama is? Do I have to care about Obama's shoe problems? How about the way Obama pulled us out of a fight we were winning in Iraq only to bungle the fight in Afghanistan? How many people have to die in Afghanistan before we realize that being there isn't the answer? It's just Vietnam all over, we don't know who to trust and our people are frequently outgunned and outflanked. How many Chinook helicopters do we have to lose? The civil war I speak of is fictional at the moment, thank God. Thing is, if we the American people don't get our moral bearings, we can expect one soon enough. The way liberal news reporters rip at Republican candidates, there is going to be a backlash. There is more than just a difference of opinion between liberals and conservatives, Republicans and Democrats, there is genuine hatred bubbling up. Unfortunately, I see both Republicans and Democrats heading to the extremes. This is dangerous, the need for common ground and common values is greater than it has been for probably a century. I want a candidate who: respects human life, respects the environment, sees the need to replace our reliance on foreign oil with hydrogen, and I want a candidate who will get us out of Afghanistan as soon as possible. I want a candidate who will not endanger marriage by giving the title married to same sex couples. Every child deserves to be the result of a loving union between a husband and a wife, not two women and a dozen anonymous sperm donors. We deserve male and female parents and we deserve to be both well treated and well raised by them. In short, tune out if you must. Let the hatred bubble and the country turn in on itself. Democracy is fragile where only the grace of God, because there is freedom of religion, allows our democracy to persevere. There is no religious freedom when idolatry is the norm and you can't protest it. There is no religious freedom when an anti life president is literally worshiped by his most ardent followers and his detractors are excluded from public discourse. Obama is the least ethical and weakest president this nation has ever had. Obama has almost, by his policies, set off another great depression. Ban me? Ignore me at your peril. There is another viewpoint that is opposite to the preferred one, a viewpoint that could be correct and that could carry with it dire consequences. Franklin Delano Roosevelt did not pull this nation out of the Great Depression, World War 2 did. Obama is not the answer. Civil war is not the answer. If the exodus from moderate politics continues though, civil war will come. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ban me? Ban yourselves.
Liar. This wasn't a private message to me. You asked for a response Daniel by putting this on the list. I won't email you privately, but if you get the message because you publicly follow the PLUG list which you have polluted with your post, that's your problem. Prove that I actually intend to destroy the PLUG list. The only thing I want to destroy is preferential treatment and blatant prejudice. Oh and by the way, suck is a bit juvenile. The reaction I want Daniel is to wake people up and if it takes shock and awe to do that, so be it. The hatred has to stop, or maybe we can simply take this outside till everyone is lying dead face down on the streets of Portland. On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 21:32 -0700, Daniel Pittman wrote: On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 21:18, Michael C. Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: If you don't like me bringing up open source projects that don't involve Linux, you don't have to read the PLUG list. You should listen to David Mandel who says that bringing up non Linux OSS is acceptable. Y'know what? I have better things to do with my time than hang about a Linux list that will do nothing to prevent trolls making a mess of the place. If I wanted to watch trolls destroying community I already know where to find 4chan; I don't need this from a nominally Linux-focus group. Michael, you suck. Seriously, suck. Sadly, I know this is the reaction you want to get, but whatever. Continue to try and destroy, and hopefully any other places I run into you will take a stand against this sort of awfulness. Michael, please do not contact me privately to whine about my position, or statements. I have no interest in discussion with you on the subject. Daniel ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Old DSL modem...
I had to replace my DSL modem with one that is PPPoE capable. My old modem is pre ADSL2/2+. It is bridged where Opus threw the manuals for it out a long time ago. Should I simply take this to the dump and put it in the computers section or is anyone interested? The modem is a D-Link DSL 500 modem. The modem still works, but CenturyLink requires PPPoE now. Note that the modem is bridged and that I lack the necessary information to change that. I can throw in a microfilter that came with it and the D-Link CD. I also have a serial cable that came with it. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] I really do need help with Asterisk...blacklists
This is a historically proven and very fair statement of his behavior on this mailing list. Not to mention that when people do attempt to help him he tends to very argumentative and always seems to have some unique situation, according to him, in which no one's suggestions can be successfully implemented. Any question that more than one person has about a Linux related issue that is answered on this mailing list is valuable. Openly attacking me on list when I cannot respond on list without being accused of hostile behavior is extremely rude and unacceptable. Is to be any semblance of professionalism in this community at all? I have been silent for days, but still people are attacking me on list with arguably little to no provocation at this point so that I have to speak out against it. Offering help if I do not know the issue well enough to give reasonable let alone correct advice is not help by the way. Nowhere in the terms of use for this list does it say that I am aware of, you cannot ask for help if you do not give help to others. That people have to go after divisive threads that are over 10 years old to accuse me of having a, history of hostility, is ridiculous. I am not hostile towards Keith, I am hostile towards calling God a woman on list. I stand by my comment that I hope Linus converts to some form of religion. Believing in God makes it easier to accept God. Aceepting that which one does not believe is probably the hardest thing to do, yet for the believer, it is no trouble at all. For those who totally reject God, there is only Hell. Every thread that answers a question about a Linux or OSS related topic is a good thread for this list. This thread does not pass this test and frankly, it needs to die. If answering the questions of all but certain people, people who agree with you on everything, is offensive to you, this list is not for you. If you can't agree to disagree and instead decide to openly attack a person who has been silent for days, you are not affecting this list in a good way. Does anyone honestly think that I want to see attack posts from this list in my inbox day after day, week after week? I don't. The statement that I am hostile towards this list is NOT a fair statement. I have been hostile towards only political/religious statements which are technically not acceptable list material in the first place. I have never been hostile towards people helping each other use Linux more effectively. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] The problem with scapegoats...
Keith was wrong to do what he did on multiple levels where saying that all beliefs are equal has a name, it's called pluralism. Pluralism is nonsense because it makes believing anything too controversial if the opposite of that is just as relevant. If you want to live in a world where nobody can believe anything because they might offend someone else, be my guest. I won't be joining you. I merely tried to argue against what Keith said with facts and requested that there be more respect and less censorship. Clearly, this is too much to expect from some people on this list. This list isn't about religion, but does that mean it should be filled with religious/political commentary that is controversial and by and large unbalanced? Keith has done this before and will do this again, as will others who are trying to use me as a scapegoat for their lack of professionalism, balance, and courtesy. Oh, and for those who have commented, consider looking at my arguments and doing some homework. I'm sure you'll find that there isn't much evidence to back up the notion that God is female. More important than winning that argument, there is no argument for what Keith did let alone for letting one person, but not me, get away with it. What I have done is call Keith on his off topic religious statement to provide some semblance of balance. If you can't respect or understand what I've tried to do here, that is really your problem. And a thought, if the church is the bride of Christ, than the church is female and God is male. From that imagery, mankind is essentially a woman and only God is a man. Just another line of argument one might follow. There are many lines of argument for God being masculine. When it comes to religion, there can be and are absolutes where the alternative, called Pluralism, is really quite absurd. Belief becomes worthless if all opposite beliefs are deemed equally valid. There is a logic problem. Pluralism is not a way to honor diversity, it is a fallacy, a major cop out. Disagree with me on God's gender, that is minor compared to disagreeing with me on the problems that exist with pluralism and preferential treatment. The preferential censorship has to stop. The only thing that can stop the censorship, a critical mass of people in this community calling for a stop to it. There should be a rule if someone inappropriately posts a religious statement that it is fair game for someone to post the other side. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] I really do need help with Asterisk...
Talking about censoring someone on list when that person is following the list is cyber bullying and it is wrong. Someone please speak out against the bullies. Danial, I agree, however we have gone down this road a dozen times before... always with the same individual. I am constantly on the edge of unsubscribing to this mailing list, despite all the GOOD information that is on it. I have found that the only way to deal with it is to have an autodelete filter for any post that contains his name. sometimes a few messages (like this one) get through, but it is much better than without the filter. Jason On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Daniel Pittman dan...@rimspace.net wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 20:59, Benjamin Kerensa bkere...@gmail.com wrote: I'm unsure when this list became a religious or political debate forum but last I checked this is a linux user group general mailing list. Can we drop this argument shakehands and move on. There are better places and ways to address such. It would, indeed, be awesome if folks could keep this off-topic religious discussion off this list. Aside from anything else, this divisive and unpleasant tone drives away valuable contributions and otherwise interesting members of the list; it would be a shame if we let that happen. Daniel -- ♲ Made with 100 percent post-consumer electrons ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] I really do need help with Asterisk...
1) 25% at least, arguably more, of the people on this planet believe as I do. Besides, what about respect for minorities? 2) Tongue in cheek is not determinable when one is discussing email. What makes Keith putting religiously controversial statements on PLUG right even if his statement was tongue in cheek? 3) Oregon is probably the least churched state in the entire country. I've heard that as few as 30% of Oregonians regularly attend weekly services. Oregon is not at all, especially western Oregon, representative of what people believe world wide let alone nation wide. Saying that Oregon is representative is called lying or in some circles just statistics. 4) Linus is an atheist last time I checked where I'd love to see him convert. It would make his chances of getting to heaven far greater. So as far as picking ones battles, fighting atheism with the prospect of influencing Linus could make a major difference in the world. Linus isn't the only atheist that would leave atheism most likely upon his conversion. Only God can ultimately convert Linus or anyone else for that matter, but I can try to argue for and pray for his conversion. 5) I didn't pick this forum to argue the gender of God. Keith did. This is a major issue that nobody seems willing to address. This needs to be addressed, putting all the responsibility on me for this is wrong. 6) I have to stand and fight prejudice or it will just be there tomorrow waiting for me. It's not the gender issue I can't let go of so much as the preferential treatment issue. I bet nobody who is criticizing me would be doing so if they agreed with my position. Nobody is criticizing Keith that I know of anywhere near the level that I am being criticized at. 7) I have tried to reason with the community, but the people who have written so far appear to be unreasonable. 8) What I really want is a statement against censoring people, especially those who follow the rule Linux/Unix and/or the occasional open source non-Linux topic. Another thing, nobody is a problem in a truly diverse group of people. Sure there are those who break the laws that society depends on to function, but just annoying people doesn't rise to anywhere near that level. I'm sorry that people are bringing religious/political hostility to this list where it typically takes two or more people for a fight to start. A sad day it will be if Linux becomes something that only jerks talk about. Jerks that are intolerant, unprofessional, and inconsiderate. Make no mistake, I will continue to argue for what needs to happen in this community until the prejudice is stamped out. Not everyone believes as you, and you of all people should understand that in this country, ALL beliefs are valued. The beliefs you are defending so adamantly are held by a minority of humans on the earth. When you allow others to believe what they wish, you will find that your relationship with the other 7 billion people in the world will be much more pleasant. What you or I believe about the gender or non-gender of any supreme being is irrelevant in the discussion of Linux. My mother always taught me to 'Pick my battles'. This is not the time nor the place to argue religion. Keith made a tongue in cheek (I'm assuming here) remark, and you took the bait. I don't know if he intended it as such or not. Stop taking the bait, and the baiting will stop. You have as much control over letting it go as anyone else. More so in fact, since you are the one taking the heat for taking the bait. Let it go. On Sep 27, 2011, at 2:14 PM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: Not until I am afforded the same privileges and respect as Keith concerning this argument. Russell Johnson r...@dimstar.net ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Domain move...
I've been forced to move my static ip's to different ones because my ISP got bought out. At PSU at least, my second web server xerxes is apparently not being detected at the new number. I'm also noticing that my posts to this list don't seem to be showing up. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] What is changing with Linux 3.0.4?
The Linux 3.0.4 kernel is the current kernel. What is changing from the long running 2.6 series which has gotten up around 2.6.40 or so? CentOS 6 unfortunately is down at the 2.6.34 kernel level. I'm curious if there are stability and/or other end of life issues for the 2.6 kernel? Is it true that you have to have a gigabyte or more of ram now to install CentOS 6? Huh, my old servers don't have that. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] What is changing with Linux 3.0.4?
On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 00:19 -0700, Michael C. Robinson wrote: The Linux 3.0.4 kernel is the current kernel. What is changing from the long running 2.6 series which has gotten up around 2.6.40 or so? CentOS 6 unfortunately is down at the 2.6.34 kernel level. I'm curious if there are stability and/or other end of life issues for the 2.6 kernel? Is it true that you have to have a gigabyte or more of ram now to install CentOS 6? Huh, my old servers don't have that. I hope that David Mandel isn't the only person paying attention to my posts. He said himself that this Linux list is for the occasional discussion about non Linux OSS, but I'm being singled out it seems for community wide censorship. If that is the case, at least my complaint will make the mailing list on http://www.pdxlinux.org where people will hopefully see it and reconsider what they are doing. Censorship, especially when the person is asking about Linux on a Linux list, is just plain wrong. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Asterisk FXS ports...
Does anyone know what to add to extensions.conf in Asterisk 1.8 to allow dialing from FXS connected devices? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] What is changing with Linux 3.0.4?
So then, replacing 2.6.34 with 3.0.4 should work just fine? How about for CentOS 6 which is traditionally behind for stability reasons? Is 3.0.4 more stable than 2.6.34? The Linux 3.0.4 kernel is the current kernel. What is changing from the long running 2.6 series which has gotten up around 2.6.40 or so? The 3.0.x series is just an incremental upgrade from 2.6.x. Linus wrote: START QUOTE So what are the big changes? NOTHING. Absolutely nothing. Sure, we have the usual two thirds driver changes, and a lot of random fixes, but the point is that 3.0 is *just* about renumbering, we are very much *not* doing a KDE-4 or a Gnome-3 here. No breakage, no special scary new features, nothing at all like that. We've been doing time-based releases for many years now, this is in no way about features. If you want an excuse for the renumbering, you really should look at the time-based one (20 years) instead. So no ABI changes, no API changes, no magical new features - just steady plodding progress. END QUOTE See http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1147415. CentOS 6 unfortunately is down at the 2.6.34 kernel level. I'm curious if there are stability and/or other end of life issues for the 2.6 kernel? Red Hat regularly backports security updates and other key enhancements from the current kernel into its production kernel. I imagine that process won't change at all with the renumbering. Is it true that you have to have a gigabyte or more of ram now to install CentOS 6? Huh, my old servers don't have that. You need to have that much for the graphical installer to run. You can still run the text installer with less than 1 GB, but you won't get access to as many install-time options. If you have a serious need to run CentOS 6 on a machine with less that a gigabyte of RAM, I suggest you learn how to configure and use the Red Hat/CentOS kickstart installation tools; that's the only route to a fully configurable installation on low-memory machines. PS: Ignoring you isn't censorship. Claiming it is completely and utterly devalues the experience of people who have actually been the victim of censors: those who have lost their livelihood, been cast into prison, or dragged to interminable legal proceedings. Your right to free speech does not now and never will mean that anyone has to listen to you. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] VOIP phones for Asterisk
God is not a woman. God is a man, Mary's son, and Mary is his female mother. Calling God a woman is offensive to both me and Him. Please refrain from doing so again. Building an Asterisk system for my wife's office. 3 voice lines coming in. She Who Must Be Obeyed says, no hook switch flash, no touch tones, I want lights and buttons. So - suggestions for IP phones to look at or avoid? This is temporary. Long term, I want to use headsets and computer screens for the caller information and routing info, but short term we do it with buttons the old fashioned way. Interesting that someone and I are both working on Asterisk problems. God has a weird sense of humor, she does. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] I really do need help with Asterisk...
With Keith's baiting of me to get others upset, why are you upset with me??? I really do need help figuring out how to get FXS connected telephone handsets to dial out. I can dial to them, but I can't dial from them. Just so everyone is clear, God is a man. Second, He is the same God as your God because there is only one. Third, women were judges and land owners 2000 years ago, so Christ could have called women to the priesthood if He wanted to. Read the bible, Christ is clearly identified as a man and as God. Check the historical records of ancient Rome, Christ is identified as a man. And while we are on the subject if Keith has a privilege to post religious opinions that people won't censor, than I should be allowed to do the same without facing censorship. Maybe Keith you should be more professional and avoid religious/political controversy on a technical support list. If you and your wife want to call God a woman despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, please do it elsewhere. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] I really do need help with Asterisk...
Not until I am afforded the same privileges and respect as Keith concerning this argument. If Keith has a right to put blatant and wrong religious statements on this Linux list, than anyone else should have the right to disagree with him both openly and intelligently. Disproportionately blaming this argument on one person is wrong, needs to stop, and it can only be stopped by the community. I am owed an apology for Keith's lack of professionalism and from other people as well who know who they are. I have been singled out for censorship but Keith has not and the sad truth is, I really do need help with Asterisk. The only reason Keith started this argument is to get me censored so that other people won't help me. This wasn't a joke between him and his wife, it was blatant trolling. Why can't the community see that and the list moderators reprimand him? On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 20:59 -0700, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: Hi Guys, I'm unsure when this list became a religious or political debate forum but last I checked this is a linux user group general mailing list. Can we drop this argument shakehands and move on. There are better places and ways to address such. - Benjamin Kerensa Team Lead Ubuntu Oregon ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] I really do need help with Asterisk...
I'm unsure when this list became a religious or political debate forum but last I checked this is a linux user group general mailing list. Can we drop this argument shakehands and move on. There are better places and ways to address such. - Benjamin Kerensa Team Lead Ubuntu Oregon I think you are wrong. I have been trying to be a part of this list for years where trouble has been ongoing. The Linux community may be welcoming somewhere else, but not here in Portland. I want to be a part of the Linux list in my community, but this community is very unchurched and way too liberal. This invariably comes up one way or another over and over and over. The liberals causing the problem, like Keith, are never criticized for their behavior and frankly they are never called on it. Nobody ever says, hey Keith, you are blatantly intolerant of the opposite viewpoint on an issue you shouldn't have brought up in the first place. Keith and others have not just done this once, this happens over and over and over. It is high time, it is past time for David Mandel or someone to take corrective action. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] I really do need help with Asterisk...
Well Bill, you are wrong where trying to harass me privately is still harassment. At least by posting this on PLUG others can see that you are clearly part of the problem and not part of the solution. If people do leave this list, it will not be because I tried to logically and respectfully argue a different viewpoint to Keith's controversial and wrong religious statement. I'm still awaiting a community solution to the Keith can use this as a political/religious rag problem. If he is allowed to do so, I should be allowed to do so along with anyone else who wants to. That is called free speech by the way. If nobody should be allowed to do this, then nobody includes Keith. If I'm wrong and people do leave this list because they are intolerant of reasonable and correct religious beliefs, good riddance. On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 21:49 -0700, Bill Ensley wrote: Michael, There is a reason other lists kick you off. I'm sorry you can't see it. When you turn in a circle and everyone you see is wrong, perhaps it's not them. -Bill Ensley On 9/27/2011 2:14 PM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: Not until I am afforded the same privileges and respect as Keith concerning this argument. If Keith has a right to put blatant and wrong religious statements on this Linux list, than anyone else should have the right to disagree with him both openly and intelligently. Disproportionately blaming this argument on one person is wrong, needs to stop, and it can only be stopped by the community. I am owed an apology for Keith's lack of professionalism and from other people as well who know who they are. I have been singled out for censorship but Keith has not and the sad truth is, I really do need help with Asterisk. The only reason Keith started this argument is to get me censored so that other people won't help me. This wasn't a joke between him and his wife, it was blatant trolling. Why can't the community see that and the list moderators reprimand him? On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 20:59 -0700, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: Hi Guys, I'm unsure when this list became a religious or political debate forum but last I checked this is a linux user group general mailing list. Can we drop this argument shakehands and move on. There are better places and ways to address such. - Benjamin Kerensa Team Lead Ubuntu Oregon ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] I really do need help with Asterisk...
On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 21:44 -0700, Daniel Pittman wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 20:59, Benjamin Kerensa bkere...@gmail.com wrote: I'm unsure when this list became a religious or political debate forum but last I checked this is a linux user group general mailing list. Can we drop this argument shakehands and move on. There are better places and ways to address such. It would, indeed, be awesome if folks could keep this off-topic religious discussion off this list. Aside from anything else, this divisive and unpleasant tone drives away valuable contributions and otherwise interesting members of the list; it would be a shame if we let that happen. Daniel You just did let that happen by making this comment. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] spam_processor.pl
This is my current version that looks for a received from line to get an IP address to list. I hope the attachment doesn't get dumped... I'm posting the script so others can use it if they want and I'm also after comments on how to improve it. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] spam_processor.pl
On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 21:26 -0700, Michael C. Robinson wrote: This is my current version that looks for a received from line to get an IP address to list. I hope the attachment doesn't get dumped... I'm posting the script so others can use it if they want and I'm also after comments on how to improve it. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug Uge! It was cut... here is a link to it: ftp://ftp.robinson-west.com/pub/linux/spam_processor.pl ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] What does postfix...
stamp in the email headers? I'm trying to set up amavis, spamassassin, and clamav. Before I set these three things up, incoming email had an X-Originating-IP header line. I've been using that line thinking that my Postfix server was appending it with the IP address of the connecting server. Looking at the email headers now, the last received from line is the local IP address of my relay which is useless. Somewhere down the line, there is a foreign IP address. Knowing what was added by my postfix server though verses what was added by say the spam bot is very important. I want amavis or postfix before amavis engages to stamp the IP address of the remote server and the time it connected. This doesn't appear to be happening anymore. Help! ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Open Source project suing a stranger...
As final word, we have the right to sue YOU if you reregister with another name for bypassing our ban. In germany we call this Hausrecht. If you wanna discuss this, feel free to join #reactos in about three hours. I will be there. Feel free to sue me, could be real fun ^^ ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Can't get overscan correction...
to stick. I have an NVIDIA GT220 HDMI video card hooked to a projection television. This is my media server. So far, I've been able to find the proprietary NVIDIA driver's overscan correction slider. Trouble is, I have to run nvidia-settings every time I log in to X and there is no correction on the graphical login page. The system is CentOS 5.6. NVIDIA-Linux-x86-190.42-pkg1.run I have been able to put a bash script that simply runs nvidia-settings on the Desktop where it will be seen so people can fix this issue with the mouse, but this isn't ideal obviously. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Asterisk 1.8
Below is my asterisk 1.8 extensions.conf file. What do I need to change
to allow my DAHDI FXS connected phones to dial other phones? I can call
the DAHDI FXS connected phones from SIP phones, but I can't do the
opposite. I have the O'Reilly book on Asterisk 1.8, but I'm not sure
where to look in it.
[globals]
CENTURYLINK=DAHDI/1
COMCAST=DAHDI/2
ANDREWROOM=DAHDI/3
SERVERROOM=DAHDI/4
[external]
exten = _9NXXNXX,1,Dial(${CENTURYLINK}/${EXTEN:1})
exten = _8NXXNXX,1,Dial(${COMCAST}/${EXTEN:1})
[my-phones]
exten = 2000,1,Dial(SIP/2000,10)
same = n,VoiceMail(2000,u)
exten = 2002,1,Dial(SIP/2002,10)
same = n,VoiceMail(2002,u)
exten = 2004,1,Dial(SIP/2004,10)
same = n,VoiceMail(2004,u)
exten = 2006,1,Dial(SIP/2006,10)
same = n,VoiceMail(2006,u)
exten = 2007,1,Dial(SIP/2007,10)
same = n,VoiceMail(2007,u)
exten = 2008,1,Dial(SIP/2008,10)
same = n,VoiceMail(2008,u)
exten = 2009,1,Dial(SIP/2009,10)
same = n,VoiceMail(2009,u)
exten = 2010,1,Dial(${SERVERROOM},10)
same = n,VoiceMail(2010,u)
exten = 2011,1,Dial(${ANDREWROOM},10)
same = n,VoiceMail(2011,u)
exten = 2999,1,VoiceMailMain(${CALLERID(num)},s)
include = external
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[PLUG] Censorship...
I'm threatened with a lawsuit by an open source project moderator/developer and mostly what I get posting the threat on this list is discussion about how to censor me. Never mind that my questions about Postfix, Asterisk, and overscan correction are getting ignored. What is with people who are censoring what I say about ReactOS? I certainly won't go to the ReactOS forums because I am being threatened there. I thought an open source community that functions would be a reasonable forum to discuss one that doesn't. I guess I was wrong. There are people here, you know who you are, who are behaving no better than those in the ReactOS community who are threatening me. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] I am NOT a troll...
I am trying to get people to care about a very real threat I am receiving. I am NOT a troll. I post the actual threat and all I get is censorship? What about my questions concerning Asterisk and my questions concerning other Linux related topics? The censorship means that I'm going to get ignored on everything. Is this how you want to be treated? Do you want to be called a troll? I learned to treat others the way I want to be treated, I guess you didn't Heinlein. Do I post real spam to the plug list? Do I post messages asking you to buy this or buy that? Do I send messages saying that I'm horny and looking for someone else who is? No. I get those kinds of messages though as well as Nigerian scam email where my Postfix questions need to be answered for me to have any hope of blocking it. I maintain my own Linux based web site, Asterisk server, etcetera. Guess if I get ignored by everyone that I'll have to carry on by myself without any help from anyone locally. +--+ |PLEASE| | DO NOT FEED | | THE TROLLS | |--The Mgt.| +--++--+ || o o o ||* ,,\|/,,,||,,,/,,, ---+-- -- Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com http://www.madboa.com/ ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Censorship...
I don't write poorly, it's easy enough to use evolution's spell checker and I'm pretty decent at spelling anyways. As far as grammar, nobody is perfect. Define arcane, I try my best to write clear questions. How do you know I haven't tried to find the answer first on my own? I'm not abusive and it is disingenuous to take what I write as an insult. What mean things do I say about other people? I tried to point out difficulties I'm having with another open source community, and people started attacking me for that. I have facts to back up what I'm saying. I don't take lightly criticizing another open source community. What does you don't act as a plug member mean? That is a vague accusation. I never try to help others? Maybe I don't have the answer they need where making something up is far worse than not saying anything at all. Never mind that my questions about Postfix, Asterisk, and overscan correction are getting ignored. No, they aren't. Unanswered != ignored. Folks don't want to answer your questions because: * they're poorly written, * they're usually arcane, * you don't try to find the answer first, * you insult and abuse people when they try to help you, * you say mean things about other people, * you don't act as a PLUG member, * you basically never offer help to others. These are all things that can changed. Short of me uploading a music file that is a recording of me whining, it isn't possible to whine in an email. Furthermore, calling an excerpt of what someone actually wrote drama isn't accurate. Life is dramatic sometimes and you can say, sorry that's dramatic go away, or you can take a look and see if there is some way you can help. As far as they exist because God put them there, are you saying that we don't necessarily have a purpose? I'd say we all have a purpose and that part of life is asking questions to try to discover and fulfill that purpose. As far as saying that I view the people on this list as slaves, that is an objective judgment call you are making and nothing more. I don't. Furthermore, some questions should be asked even though Google can generate some kind of answer because Google isn't always right. There is a lot of misinformation on the Net and a lot of just old information that gets in the way. Linux is not static after all and probably nobody can completely catch up. That might be. Guess what, people don't exist to serve your whims, listen to you whine or play to your sense of drama. They exist for the same reason you do, because God put 'em there. What is a Linux mailing list worth if nobody asks questions for fear they will be branded the questioner and asked to leave? People who are knowledgeable are hopefully happy to answer questions, especially well asked ones. I attempt to ask reasonable questions, how impolite for someone to suggest otherwise. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Odd error setting up amavis...
Sep 6 23:16:47 web amavis[8289]: (08123-02) (!!)[8289] run_as_subprocess: child done (8.8 ms), sending results: res_len=67, STATUS: FAILURE Not an ARRAY reference at (eval 102) line 735. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Odd error setting up amavis...
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 23:18 -0700, Michael C. Robinson wrote: Sep 6 23:16:47 web amavis[8289]: (08123-02) (!!)[8289] run_as_subprocess: child done (8.8 ms), sending results: res_len=67, STATUS: FAILURE Not an ARRAY reference at (eval 102) line 735. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug This is also cropping up a lot... Sep 7 03:13:31 web amavis[8123]: (08123-08) (!)Mail::ClamAV av-scanner FAILED: statchkdir() only works if a database directory was specified to new() at (eval 102) line 71. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Amavis wants...
[root@web admin]# cat /var/log/maillog|grep 'No decoder for ' Sep 7 06:52:49 web amavis[12457]: No decoder for .lzo tried: lzop -d Sep 7 06:52:49 web amavis[12457]: No decoder for .arc tried: nomarch, arc Sep 7 06:52:49 web amavis[12457]: No decoder for .zoo tried: zoo, unzoo [root@web admin]# I'm on a CentOS 5.6 system, how do I resolve these dependencies? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Amavis wants...
On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 09:02 -0700, plug...@martinconsulting.com wrote: Michael, # cat /var/log/maillog|grep 'No decoder for ' Sep 7 06:52:49 web amavis[12457]: No decoder for .lzo tried: lzop -d Sep 7 06:52:49 web amavis[12457]: No decoder for .arc tried: nomarch, arc Sep 7 06:52:49 web amavis[12457]: No decoder for .zoo tried: zoo, unzoo I'm on a CentOS 5.6 system, how do I resolve these dependencies? I'm not sure if I understand your question, but I'll give it a shot. If you're asking why those messages come up, it's because amavis will make use of external (de)compression packages like gunzip, bunzip2, etc. if they're available.The ones listed above are kinds of compression/decompression packages that amavis understands, but aren't present on your system. They're not dependencies in the classic sense. Amavis will work fine without them, and mine has run for years without some packages similar to these. It just means that if someone sends you an e-mail with, say, a .zoo attachment, Amavis can't decompress it to scan the contents. The solution is either to not worry about .zoo attachments and the other ones listed, or to install the external packages that know how to compress/decompress these kinds of files. You'll have to look to your distro to find out which packages are needed to support those kinds of files. I hope that helps. -Brian Martin Yes, I've supported various formats that weren't standardly supported by finding for example cabextract rpms or the source for freeze, etcetera. Seems that zoo is harder to support, but there is a Slackware package for it??? I have libraries for lzo but not lzop, don't know where to get it. I guess the question becomes, how do you reject anything you don't have a scanner for and generate a message about who sent it and other information for the intended recipient? Another problem, I'm getting about 2-3 different errors in my mail log that seem to be coming from amavis. Sep 7 09:04:20 xerxes amavis[12705]: (12705-03) (!)Mail::ClamAV av-scanner FAILED: statchkdir() only works if a database directory was specified to new() at (eval 102) line 71. Sep 7 06:54:57 xerxes amavis[12852]: (12704-01) (!!)[12852] run_as_subprocess: child done (6.1 ms), sending results: res_len=67, STATUS: FAILURE Not an ARRAY reference at (eval 102) line 735. I suspect that virus scanning isn't working at all where I haven't done much with the spam assassin part. For example, how do I avoid changing the header if I don't virus scan or spam assassin scan it? I have some server generated messages that need to be left unchanged. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] [OT] Problems in the ReactOS community...
Windows, especially NT based Windows, is beyond the scope of Freedos.
Unfortunately, there have been suggestions to look at the ReactOS
project. I think this transcript which needs to get out despite the
rules details why the ReactOS project is a disaster that needs to be
cleaned up. Anyone can work on an OSS project. Keyword here is anyone.
Please, someone go ahead and get the code, form another community, and
continue development if this project is still
worthwhile.
Supposedly, Linux+WINE is not a better way to go, but the way things are
going in the ReactOS community, I'd have to say that it is a better way
to go.
Is there a way I can complain about the reactos.org site and get them
sanctioned? Taking the site down would be a good way to adjust
attitudes in that community.
Here is a transcript showing how bad ReactOS IRC has gotten:
Guest9187 None of your business.
tower _what_the_xuck_i_couldn't_get_my_own_one_at_once
encod3d it says it right there
* Alex_I hides his whois :)
encod3d ok im gonna play some halo
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joined #reactos
Python interface unloaded
* Now talking on #reactos
* Topic for #reactos is: Official ReactOS Channel |
http://www.reactos.org | Use paste service:
http://www.reactos.org/paste/ | Testman URL: http://reactos.org/testman
| 0.3.12 is out!
* Topic for #reactos set by dangerground!
~dangergro@reactos/developer/dangerground at Mon Nov 15 05:01:09 2010
-ChanServ- [#reactos] Welcome to #ReactOS! || ***Please Identify your
Nickname! Ask for help if you don't know what this is!*** || Project
Information: http://www.reactos.org/?page=about || Developer Chat:
#reactos-dev || Enjoy your stay!
* #reactos :http://www.reactos.org
ghz|work oh noes
ghz|work opcode is still in his INT 3,NOP loop of death
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* Now talking on #reactos
* Topic for #reactos is: Official ReactOS Channel |
http://www.reactos.org | 0.3.13 has been released! | Use paste service:
http://www.reactos.org/paste/ | Testman URL: http://reactos.org/testman
| lwIP has been integrated! || please test iso from themes branch:
http://www.mediafire.com/?u714qliwjswmte2
* Topic for #reactos set by Usurp!~syl@reactos/developer/Usurp at Sun
Aug 21 13:43:27 2011
-ChanServ- [#reactos] Welcome to #ReactOS! || ***Please Identify your
Nickname! Ask for help if you don't know what this is!*** || Project
Information: http://www.reactos.org/?page=about || Developer Chat:
#reactos-dev || Enjoy your stay!
* #reactos :http://www.reactos.org
-NickServ- You failed to identify in time for the nickname Michael
* You are now known as Guest39028
Guest39028 Why is logging in as zimbra messed up?
* Wr4i7h (~a...@a89-154-41-86.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #reactos
Guest39028 Is anyone else's forum login screwed up?
}i{ sudo #reactos
Guest39028 Syllable being a different OS doesn't have to be directly
compatible with Windows and better yet there are efforts to use portable
programming languages like REBOL soon to be replaced with RED. Why
develop ReactOS which has to mimic Windows?
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ThFabba Because it's fun
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Guest39028 The Syllable approach may make more sense in the long run.
One of the major problems with Windows has been that it doesn't just
work. If Windows was the dominant server system that would be one
thing, but it isn't.
Guest39028 People are writing commercial software for Linux now which
is somewhat similar to MacOS, why not Syllable?
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Guest39028 Syllable admittedly has problems with SATA and probably
isn't 64 bit, but ReactOS isn't 64 bit either.
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Guest39028 Why ReactOS over Syllable???
Guest39028 Is anyone else's forum login screwed up?
zwabbit what's your login name
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Guest39028 zimbra
zwabbit because daniel banned you?
Guest39028 Since when?
zwabbit
http://www.reactos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13t=8852hilit=zimbrastart=15#p82148
Guest39028 I can't view anything on the forum, so why are you
bothering?
Guest39028 My account is so screwed up, that I can't set the language
correctly and I can't even look at the forum.
zwabbit then don't sign in
Guest39028 Too late.
zwabbit it's not hard to log out
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zwabbit go to the myRosCMS page and on the left hand side there's a
logout link
Guest39028 I've posted so much that I assumed I wouldn't be banned,
especially considering that there were no loggers.
Guest39028 I've posted so much that I assumed I wouldn't be banned,
especially
[PLUG] Windows or stick with Linux compatible...
hardware and software? There is a thread about a USB printer not working right under Linux and other hardware threads pop up now and then. What tools are available to improve this situation long term? Some people say ReactOS is the answer, but as my transcript from ReactOS IRC shows, that is a very nasty community. ReactOS is over 12 years old and still way behind. They are pursuing a moving target where they may have to make a bad decision now and then to remain compatible. Syllable on the other hand is younger where there is no moving target per se and hey, Syllable server is based on Linux. I've played around with Syllable under VirtualBox and I have to say that it is impressive. If fewer people decide that they want Windows, there will be less of a need for a Windows clone. Software companies who don't support Linux, Syllable, Freedos, etcetera will lose. I think the best bet with a hardware device that won't work in Linux is to recycle it and replace with something that will. I would like to see some sanction imposed on the current ReactOS developers to bring them back down to the Earth. Barring that, I would like to see a new community form with it's own web site and a different non profit foundation supporting it. There used to be more than one attempt to make a free Windows clone, but the ReactOS project is the only one that exists today. Why is that? Some people claim that 3d video acceleration is a problem in Linux and that Linux is slower than Windows. Well, maybe some cards from AMD don't accelerate easily, but NVIDIA's offerings seem to be a different story. I have an Athlon 635 quad core system where the Radeon HD5450 has been taken out because it doesn't work well in Fedora 15. I'm looking for a replacement video card. One of the beauties of Linux, there is more than one source. With ReactOS, there is only one source and in my case this isn't a friendly source. The ReactOS community currently enjoys a monopoly over the category of open source Windows NT clone. Maybe this should be rectified. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] [OT] Problems in the ReactOS community
Take it over there. As a Linux user I don't care. However it is *their* project and appealing for people to hack their servers is objectionable. big snip Please do not post about it here. You know the rules. PLUG is for Linux. Robert I NEVER advocated for anyone to hack their servers. I would like to see them taken down for a while by the proper legal authorities though. I can't complain on their forums, I am being threatened with imprisonment if I ever get on the ReactOS forums or ReactOS IRC chat again. I don't know German law, so I don't know how realistic the threats are. This is not completely off topic because Linux is essentially OSS software and thus could, but hasn't fortunately, succumb to the same kinds of issues. Fortunately in the Linux world, there are hundreds of distributions and even more user groups. This is OT, but it is also germane because this is a functional open source software community where the ReactOS community is not. I'm only advocating for someone to download the source and form a new group to develop it further that is completely detached from the original. Just because one person is disinterested doesn't mean that everyone is. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Problems getting clamd to start...
[root@web ~]# clamd ERROR: Please define server type (local and/or TCP). [root@web ~]# Google is not helping. I am using the exact same config files from a server that works on the one that doesn't work. That is, I'm using the same clamd.conf and amavisd.conf. What else causes this error to crop up? I'm trying to set up a TCP port, 3310. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Problems getting clamd running...
[root@web ~]# clamd ERROR: Please define server type (local and/or TCP). [root@web ~]# Google is not helping. I am using the exact same config files from a server that works on the one that doesn't work. That is, I'm using the same clamd.conf and amavisd.conf. What else causes this error to crop up? I'm trying to set up a TCP port, 3310. The servers in question are running CentOS 5.6. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Old television shows and Linux...
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 09:21 -0700, Aaron Burt wrote: On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 09:32:11PM -0700, Michael C. Robinson wrote: Star Trek Voyager ended in like 2001 or so. Star Trek Deep Space Nine snip Answered on PLUG-Talk. Please do try to be a better citizen, Aaron ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug Excuse you. This is not a PLUG-talk topic considering that using a Linux based server as the media server is a PLUG topic. I'm trying to ask what is legal as far as recording of live television and long term archival of those recordings. I'm also trying to ask, what is there to stop me legally from copying copyrighted commercial DVDs that I have purchased where I intend to air the copy privately from my Linux based server? If there are legal verses illegal ways to go about this, I want to know about that. Do TiVOs and the like not keep the recording long term? How about services like Comcast's On Demand? If I were to publish a HOWTO on recording live television with a Linux based server or converting DVDs/Blu Rays to a file for private viewing, would that be illegal? The technical question of can it be done seems to be answered, the problem is what about the legal side of this? From a technical standpoint, there is very little difference from a digital recording on a hard disk verses one on a Blu Ray disc. As far as the don't talk about this comments, if this isn't ever talked about publicly it definitely won't be legal and people not doing it will make it even less so. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Old television shows and Linux...
Concerning the plug-talk piracy accusation, I am not a pirate and I don't condone piracy either. Pirates are people who acquire copyrighted materials illegally and sell those copies or give those copies away free of charge. If I copy my Windows installation for later retrieval in the event of hard disk failure, I am not a pirate. If I do this for a Linux based system, I am definitely not a pirate. Furthermore, if I copy a copyrighted movie that aired on television using a Linux based server, I am not a pirate. Where does you can only have the copy for so long come into play? Show me the law that says you can only view a copyrighted show so many times if you record it off of the air or you copy it from a legally purchased DVD. I have never heard of such a law. In fact, I have heard quite the opposite. Saying that hard drive copies, CDs, and DVDs not produced by the copyright holder are carte blank illegal is a ridiculous definition of piracy. There is a clear difference between piracy and making a private software/video collection accessible and usable. It used to be that you could make backup CDs of the installation files for Windows easily. This was legal if you purchased your copy and didn't share it with others. This was reasonable in a day and age when Windows still got distributed on floppy disks. Was it safer to purchase genuine CDs? Yes, of course. But the genuine CDs were and still are prohibitively expensive. I am not saying that it is legal to bypass the technical barrier to copying Windows install files in order to share them, that is piracy. I emphatically disagree with the notion that all copying is piracy. If people don't defend legitimate copying, this definition of piracy will probably take hold though in time. I hate that Microsoft doesn't give most people install disks anymore. You can make a backup that will install to a specific computer, but you can't make install disks. If the only thing I can put on a Linux based media server is non copyrighted material, what's the point? Yes, it is nice to have a server that can dump family photos and family movies to the television. Streaming your purchased and personal DVDs and VHS movies to hard disk seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to do. If this isn't legal, it should be. I have no intention of copying borrowed materials from a library. I'm being picked on for talking about media in general and I don't appreciate this. I will not be silenced on this subject for fear that it will lead to unfair and unjust laws being passed. Imagine a world where you can't even share Linux because everything has to come from the copyright holder. Maybe this kind of world will materialize if everyone shuts up. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Old television shows and Linux...
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 10:24 -0700, Aaron Burt wrote: On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 09:34:12AM -0700, Michael C. Robinson wrote: Excuse you. This is not a PLUG-talk topic considering that snip Answered on PLUG-Talk. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug Stop with this rudeness. PLUG Talk is a don't respect or listen to each other politely rag that I have no intention of partaking of. It is a junk list where my views and beliefs rarely match those of anyone else who posts on there. Nothing was answered by your post on plug-talk. All you did is call me a pirate. I have never seen opposing views on plug-talk. Usually, one person who has a different view gets attacked by everyone else who posts. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Old television shows and Linux...
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 10:47 -0700, MJang wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 09:34 -0700, Michael C. Robinson wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 09:21 -0700, Aaron Burt wrote: On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 09:32:11PM -0700, Michael C. Robinson wrote: Star Trek Voyager ended in like 2001 or so. Star Trek Deep Space Nine snip Answered on PLUG-Talk. Please do try to be a better citizen, Aaron ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug Excuse you. This is not a PLUG-talk topic considering that using a Linux based server as the media server is a PLUG topic. I'm trying to ask what is legal as far as recording of live television and long term archival of those recordings. I'm also trying to ask, what is there to stop me legally from copying copyrighted commercial DVDs that I have purchased where I intend to air the copy privately from my Linux based server? If there are legal verses illegal ways to go about this, I want to know about that. Since you are asking questions on what is legal, on topics subject to debate, I suggest that you consult a lawyer. As far as I know, there are no lawyers on this list, or on plug-talk. Furthermore, I suggest that you'll get a better response with kindness. You ask for a lot of help on this list, and generally get it. Rarely do I ever see you thanking anyone for their efforts here. Thanks, Mike I haven't avoided saying Thank You, I simply haven't remembered to at times on list. Also, asking for help on list should make the answers available to anyone which is a type of Thank You. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Old television shows and Linux...
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3513_7-5128652-1.html The review above isn't necessarily valid legal advice, but I think it explains how the DMCA is causing problems with the traditional understanding of fair use. http://dvd-copy-review.upickreviews.com/is-copying-dvds-legal.html Another site to look at on this issue. I think it is ridiculous to have a law protecting CSS encryption. The point of CSS encryption is to stop pirating, but it will also stop legitimate copying. Fair use doesn't mean you can give copies away or sell copies, but it does allow you to make copies. http://www.winxdvd.com/resource/rip-copy-protected-dvd.htm Maybe this third link is to a company selling illegal software. What they say leans heavily though on the fair use concept. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripping Interesting, don't know how to rate this though. What concerns me is that the DMCA makes circumvention of copy protection schemes apparently illegal. Trouble is, how can one fairly circumvent the schemes for making legal personal use copies if it is illegal for anyone to give you information on how to do this? If my understanding is correct, the DMCA should be amended. Maybe it should be permissible to have a third party defeat the encryption to give you one personal use only DVD without the encryption. Or, maybe the information to defeat the encryption should be legal to share. Another option, make encrypted media sold to the public at large illegal. http://www.pcworld.com/article/119549/dvd_ripping_flourishes.html This fourth link is to what seems to be a good article on DVD ripping. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/08/judge-copying-dvds-is-illegal/ I agree with the notion that Hollywood is crippling technology and that this is the wrong way to address losing money on DVDs, VHS, and Blu Ray discs. I want to ignore the whole cannot acquire or share copy protection circumvention tools. Otherwise, I can't play these legitimately purchased movies off of a computer hard drive. The problem is definitely that the law is unclear and completely inconsistent. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Any Linux compatible alternative?
Slysoft puts out AnyDVD and AnyDVD HD. This package will only work for 21 days and it requires Windows XP or newer. Yikes! What's worse, the purchase price is over $100. There is something called DeCSS, but I guess this is old and whether or not there is a Linux version is not clear. Is there anything newer that works in Linux? Commercial is okay if the price is reasonable. Slysoft appears to have the best software for this, is this true? Technically it is supposedly illegal to play DVDs on a Linux box because of digital restrictions management and the DMCA. This affects us all where I hope people are working to redress this. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Any Linux compatible alternative?
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 17:14 -0700, C W wrote: maybe k9copy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K9copy Thank you, this looks like it will work. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Old television shows and Linux...
Star Trek Voyager ended in like 2001 or so. Star Trek Deep Space Nine was over about the same time or sooner than that. My dad has lots of recordings of episodes, but they are probably low quality and his collection is undoubtedly incomplete. I want him to throw them out, these VHS tapes take up a lot of space. He probably will throw them out if I can get DVD copies of both series. I'll be happy if I can master to mpeg4 files say 3 or 4, no more than 14 please, DVDs. That takes up a lot less space than say 30+ VHS tapes. Question, is there an inexpensive alternative to startrek.com's $300+ DVD sets? Problem 1, that is a lot of money for a series that I've watched most of. Problem 2, I'm concerned that these DVD's won't copy so I can play them off of hard disk under CentOS 5.6. What do people think of http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/ ? I am not so sure that I like the you have won redirects that they do, they give you very little time to claim whatever and they want a cell phone number. What's worse, it looks like they don't have a complete episode set for either of the Star Trek series that I mentioned earlier. The site seems too good to be true to me. Does anyone know of a legitimate site where you download as mp4s specific old television shows very inexpensively or free? With MythTV so popular, I wonder if there are any Linux enthusiast networks that share decent quality recordings of old shows? Why reinvent the wheel if I don't have to? What I don't want to do is download a low quality knockoff from some random site and get in trouble. I see nothing wrong with someone who has a decent recording of what I want sharing it with me for very little or nothing. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] VoIP group?
I need help with a Digium TDM410P analog card configured with 2 FXS and 2 FXO ports. I have the O'Reilly book on Asterisk 1.8, but I don't know where to look in the book for how to configure outbound calling from an FXS connected handset. On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 14:53 -0700, Aaron Burt wrote: I know there's folks here who work with VoIP and other telephony stuff. Is there an active VoIP list/forum/group for the PDX area? Looks like the Oregon VoIP User Group never took off: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Oregon+VoIP+User+Group Context: I'm hoping to find folks who can use a couple Digium TE110P PCI T1 cards (for Asterisk) before they go completely obsolete. I inherited them from an old job. (There's also some Chenbro 2U rackmount cases.) Thanks, Aaron ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Copy protection question...
Does anyone know what kind of copy protection is employed by a VHS copy of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory 25th Anniversary Edition? The GREX can't handle it whatever it is. Another movie giving me trouble is Star Trek First Contact. For another example of a problematic movie, there is Alice in Wonderland, the animated one by Disney. Considering I have a right to play these tapes privately as many times as I want on as many VCRs as I want, it stands to reason that I should be allowed to copy them to a personal DVD or to a personal computer. As long as I don't give away or sell the copies, these are just backups in more convenient formats. Though I am trying to save space, I am keeping the original VHS tapes for proof of purchase. A computer with a large hard drive is easier to work with than a pile of DVDs or a pile of VHS tapes, so there is a convenience issue as well as a space issue. VCRs are going away, so there is an issue of losing access to this media entirely if something isn't done. Is there any way to hook a VCR up to a Linux system directly to get around copy protection schemes that the GREX doesn't handle? Macrovision isn't the only scheme in widespread use. I think the VHS DVD combo recorder that I have, which I am feeding video to via component jacks, GREX in the feed, from an external VCR, is getting anti copy codes from some tapes. This suggests a scheme(s) that the GREX is not designed to handle. I need to know whether the undefeated scheme(s) are video or audio schemes. I also need to know if there are reasonably priced hardware devices that defeat them. Barring a hardware solution, is there a Linux compatible software solution? Out of about 100 tapes, I have maybe 10 that didn't copy. Is there any way to fight industry use of anti copying technology? One of the reasons to stay away from Windows 7, digital restrictions management. I have heard horror stories of people not being allowed to access their own personal movies. The industry by and large has the computers belonging to most people wasting CPU cycles to determine whether or not they should be permitted to view a particular media source. This in my opinion is not what most people buy a computer for. If more people knew what Windows 7 is doing and they knew about Linux which is DRM free, I bet there would be more Linux users. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Dirk Dashing 2 Fedora 15... [resolved]
Evidently, my xorg video drivers etcetera were corrupt. On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 21:56 -0700, Michael C. Robinson wrote: On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 15:40 -0700, Michael C. Robinson wrote: The games author is at a complete loss as to why the game crashes on Fedora 15. If it isn't available yet, it should be on the 26th from http://www.mygamecompany.com. I was forced to upgrade to Fedora 15 to run HandBrake. Uge! I wish the Fedora team would release an update that unbreaks this. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug [root@eagle64 michael]# /sbin/lspci | grep VGA 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS880 [Radeon HD 4200] [root@eagle64 michael]# [root@eagle64 michael]# glxinfo name of display: :0.0 Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig [root@eagle64 michael]# [root@eagle64 michael]# glxgears Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual [root@eagle64 michael]# Looks like I'm having problems getting OpenGL to work correctly... ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Can't call out FXS port...
No matter what I dial on phones hooked to the FXS ports, I get a busy
signal.
[root@robin ~]# dahdi_scan
[1]
active=yes
alarms=OK
description=Wildcard TDM410P Board 1
name=WCTDM/0
manufacturer=Digium
devicetype=Wildcard TDM410P
location=PCI Bus 02 Slot 05
basechan=1
totchans=4
irq=201
type=analog
port=1,FXO
port=2,FXO
port=3,FXS
port=4,FXS
[root@robin ~]#
My extensions.conf follows:
[global]
[external]
exten = _9NXXNXX,1,Dial(DAHDI/1/${EXTEN:1})
exten = _8NXXNXX,1,Dial(DAHDI/2/${EXTEN:1})
[my-phones]
exten = 2000,1,Dial(SIP/2000,20)
same = 2,VoiceMail(2000,u)
exten = 2002,1,Dial(SIP/2002,20)
same = 2,VoiceMail(2002,u)
exten = 2004,1,Dial(SIP/2004,20)
same = 2,VoiceMail(2004,u)
exten = 2006,1,Dial(SIP/2006,20)
same = 2,VoiceMail(2006,u)
exten = 2007,1,Dial(SIP/2007,20)
same = 2,VoiceMail(2007,u)
exten = 2008,1,Dial(SIP/2008,20)
same = 2,VoiceMail(2008,u)
exten = 2009,1,Dial(SIP/2009,20)
same = 2,VoiceMail(2009,u)
exten = 2010,1,Dial(DAHDI/3)
same = 2,VoiceMail(2010,u)
exten = 2011,1,Dial(DAHDI/4)
same = 2,VoiceMail(2011,u)
exten = 2999,1,VoiceMailMain(${CALLERID(num)},s)
include = external
I want to be able to call the local extensions at a bare minimum.
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[PLUG] Dirk Dashing 2 Fedora 15...
The games author is at a complete loss as to why the game crashes on Fedora 15. If it isn't available yet, it should be on the 26th from http://www.mygamecompany.com. I was forced to upgrade to Fedora 15 to run HandBrake. Uge! I wish the Fedora team would release an update that unbreaks this. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Dirk Dashing 2 Fedora 15...
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 15:40 -0700, Michael C. Robinson wrote: The games author is at a complete loss as to why the game crashes on Fedora 15. If it isn't available yet, it should be on the 26th from http://www.mygamecompany.com. I was forced to upgrade to Fedora 15 to run HandBrake. Uge! I wish the Fedora team would release an update that unbreaks this. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug [root@eagle64 michael]# /sbin/lspci | grep VGA 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS880 [Radeon HD 4200] [root@eagle64 michael]# [root@eagle64 michael]# glxinfo name of display: :0.0 Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig [root@eagle64 michael]# [root@eagle64 michael]# glxgears Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual [root@eagle64 michael]# Looks like I'm having problems getting OpenGL to work correctly... ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Hiss in mpeg4 file...
I ripped a DVD using HandBrake on my Fedora 15 system. The video quality is okay, but the audio has a hiss in it that makes the sound hard to hear. I think this can be traced back to the VHS tape that I copied to the DVD. The tape itself has a hiss. What is the best way to remove odd noises from an mpeg4 file? Before anyone goes all self righteous on me and says, you shouldn't copy that tape, please note that I am a legal owner of it and the copy is for personal viewing on a personal television set. All I'm trying to do is eliminate the need for a VCR. VCR machines are getting harder to find, the one I have will wear out soon, tapes take up a lot of space, and DVDs work with portable DVD players whereas tapes don't. On the space issue, I can't throw the tapes away as they are proof of ownership, but I don't have to store them next to the television if they are ripped to a hard drive. On the subject of copying, the digital millennium copyright act is supposed to allow copying in cases where you can no longer work with the media because the equipment needed for it is going away. VHS tape to DVD for example. Lately, seems there may be some confusion because some bad laws have passed. I am not trying to profit from the copying of copyrighted video tapes that have been legitimately purchased over the years. If there was a legitimate service to get these VHS tapes converted to a usable format, I would consider it. Some movies won't copy, Willy Wonka's 25th Anniversary VHS tapes for example. I have a Grex, but the copy protection in Willy Wonka and a few other videos isn't defeated by it. Five to eight minutes into the movie, recording stops automatically. I'd like to see people copy movies themselves. Get a Grex and start copying copyrighted material you have purchased for non profit purposes. I think most judges are reasonable enough to accept that as legitimate. If people become scared and don't copy copyrighted material when it is reasonable to do so, the chances of this being allowed in the future are bleak. Think about this for a second, only when people copy and sell a production is it really damaging to the owners. You have to both copy and sell/give away the copy to really hurt the profitability of copyrighted material. Copying material can actually boost profitability if people who don't like their copy purchase another copy from the copyright holders. Besides this, some old movies have been shown on television and copyrighted or not, you can argue that you have a right to copy them when they air. I believe the courts have defended recording live television in the past. This recording of broadcast programs could become impossible in an era when most people have cable and the cable companies are starting to encrypt programs. Recording the football game for example so you can watch it later may become impossible. If you like the prospect of not being to copy a copyrighted video ever, don't ever copy one. If you care about reasonable copying though, some civil disobedience is appropriate. It isn't possible to arrest everyone. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Using DNS information to close smtp port...
On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 09:22 -0700, Aaron Burt wrote: On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 08:09:38PM -0700, Michael C. Robinson wrote: Hmm, people are being kinda quiet... Yup. Maybe while you're waiting, you can research the existing solutions. If you are talking about spamcannibal and MailScanner, I have tried them. MailScanner I don't like because of the strange way it hooks into postfix and there are a lot of steps to set it up. Spamcannibal is too confusing where I never have been able to get it working. I have done research, email is not the easiest thing to research. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] The problem with DNS blacklists...
I'm experimentally rejecting unlisted IP addresses that don't reverse resolve. Probably the wrong thing to do, but how bad is this? I've noted that a few important sites don't reverse resolve. What percentage of sites on the Internet don't have a reverse PTR record and why? Is it legitimate for their to be no reverse record when one site is hosted on the IP block of another? I'm looking to keep what I'm doing simple where I want to do something with the DNS infrastructure to make my spam wall stronger. One thought is to have a white list of IP addresses in cases where there is no reverse name resolution. I simply have to check the white list prior to rejecting an IP for not being reverse listed. This approach is a patching approach though and patches make things more complex. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Can I modify email headers with Perl script...
Apparently I'm not supposed to reject email when there is no reverse PTR record. Can I have my Perl script add a line to the email headers that says essentially, reverse resolution failed? I'm using iptables QUEUE on SMTP connection packets. What I'm asking is, what is the extent of what I have to work with? If I have headers, how do I access them to change them? I know I can grab the destination and source IP addresses, but do I have email headers yet? Maybe I should just query a list of IP's which don't reverse resolve that I should relay, a white list. Is there a Perl module that will allow me to query DNS blacklist servers? If so, what is the module called and which DNS blacklist server do I want to query? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] The problem with DNS blacklists...
On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 09:34 -0700, Russell Johnson wrote: On Aug 16, 2011, at 11:20 PM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: Is it legitimate for their to be no reverse record when one site is hosted on the IP block of another? Unfortunately, there are a lot of DNS admins out there that don't reverse list their forward tables. Russell Johnson r...@dimstar.net I think my Postfix implementation uses a third party SPF checking Perl script already where I question whether SPF checks are simple enough to do for a should we close the door or not script. Remember, I'm a Perl novice where one of my goals is to write something that a fellow Perl novice would pick up. To improve my script, I've written a second function and I've moved the Net::DNS stuff to it. I have the standard is the IP listed check and I've added a call to my function when the answer is NO. I try a PTR record check on the IP where failing that, the DNS test passes. On success, I take the host name answer and do an A record query. If the IP I started with for the PTR query shows up when the A query is done, there is a match. If no match and a PTR record exists, this test fails. I noticed doing DNS checking that the PTR record is sometimes absurd. The worst I have seen is localhost. Is it sensible to reject based on there being an absurd PTR record? There is more than just SPF checking, there are encrypted signatures where you use public key cryptography... This is beyond simple, but is there anything I can use??? If I can provide an English explanation that a novice would be able to follow, I think I can bend the simple rule a bit. My other thought is, there has to be an MX record to tell you where to reply to. Okay, can I use that information somehow in deciding whether or not to close the door? In other words, is it more informative to look at MX records than PTR records? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Using DNS information to close smtp port...
My perl based subroutine that does Net::DNS based checking follows,
comments please...
sub dns_rev_resolve()
{ # Check for a PTR record and try to match it up with an A query...
($ipsrc)=@_;
my $target_IP = join('.', reverse split(/\./,
$ipsrc))..in-addr.arpa;
my $res = Net::DNS::Resolver-new;
my $query = $res-query($target_IP, PTR);
if ( $query ) # Okay, there is a PTR record...
{
foreach my $rr ($query-answer)
{
next unless $rr-type eq PTR;
$rev_addr = $rr-rdatastr;
}
my $res2 = Net::DNS::Resolver-new;
my $forward_query = $res2-query($rev_addr);
if ( $forward_query )
# Okay, the PTR record forward resolved...
{
foreach my $rr2 ($forward_query-answer)
{
next unless $rr2-type eq A;
$forward_addr = $rr2-address;
}
}
}
else # NO PTR record will be treated as a match for now...
{
return YES;
}
if ( $forward_addr =~ /$ipsrc/ )
# Check for a real match in this case...
{
return YES;
}
else
{
return NO;
}
} # END of dns_rev_resolve...
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Re: [PLUG] Using DNS information to close smtp port...
Hmm, people are being kinda quiet... There is code at the beginning of this thread, but trust me when I say there isn't a lot of code. Well, the DNS checking is increasing my rejection rate. Figuring out if I'm blocking at the right times is another issue. Is there ever a situation where a PTR record that doesn't resolve back to the IP you started with is legitimate? For example, one popular PTR record is localhost which obviously will not resolve to a remote IP address. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Tarpit project...
Well, I have user space queueing of SMTP packets working. Found out my IP server had a bug, I wasn't saying NO when an IP wasn't found. So far I have 83 IP's listed, but I'm still getting spam of course. I don't seem to be getting quite as much spam though. When a spammer gets past my partially open port, they don't always get all the way through fortunately. So the amount of spam I get isn't directly correlated to the number of times that the spammer's IP address isn't listed yet. It would be nice if I could use reliable third party information about IP addresses I haven't seen before. The biggest problem with the shut the door approach is knowing when to shut it. I imagine Perl may have packages other than IPTables::IPv4::IPQueue that could be useful and potentially allow me to use remote DNS blacklist information. When the answer is NO from my IP server, I want to do a DNS blacklist query to see if I should list the IP after all and say YES of course. In essence, this would facilitate closing the door more often. The goal was to implement a tarpit, I have a list driven port closer instead. There's no slowing down of connection requests, I simply don't honor them sometimes. Not quite what I'd like to be doing. I wonder if it would be wise when the SMTP connection request packets are queued to do an additional check if the IP is not listed? I'm thinking try to do a DNS lookup and if that fails, reject. A legitimate email source has to have a valid PTR record, does it not? Are there any other checks along these lines that I should be thinking about? Can Perl scripts do DNS queries? How long do DNS queries take? Do they take too long? A thought is to get help from a Perl guru to improve my three scripts enough that other people will want to use them. Once multiple sites are using the system, maybe the IP lists can be shared somehow. The only way to stop spam is to block the connection requests from bot nets and other spam sources. I want to share my scripts as an alternative to spamcannibal. To be a good alternative though, I need a PHP interface possibly and really I should probably be aging the entries in the IP list. Also, there is an argument to use encryption for the port connections. I use Net::EasyTCP to connect the IP server to what I currently call the tarpit script. Since I queue the whole entire TCP connection request packet, what else can I pull out of it for informational purposes??? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Building an IP server in perl...
Sure, how do I do that in a Perl script??? No, and no. You should use an RBL focused DNS server instead, if you want to maintain your own blacklist or whitelist. HTH, HAND, Daniel ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] The problem with DNS blacklists...
1) How do I pick one where the expectation is that I will almost always block the spammers? 2) How do I use them from a Perl script working with actual packets thrown up to user space? 3) How can I keep this simple so that a novice Perl user will be able to do what I'm doing, granted, I need to get better with Perl? So how does one maintain a DNS blacklist? Do the IPs in the list have to be aged? Is it enough to have a web page where blocked site admins can send an email requesting clearance to get through? My blacklisting philosophy right now is simple, I blacklist any IP that spams me. A curious question, shouldn't I be able to look up any IP that is claiming to be a mail server via the DNS system? My thought is, I can ignore infected personal computers if there are no DNS records listing them as legitimate email servers for legitimate domains or better yet no IP records at all. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Building an IP server in perl...
So far, I have a perl script that pulls the originating IP from email and another perl script that uses the file created by it to serve that information. Question is, should I implement an IP whitelist and if so, how do I do partial pattern matches? For example, 192.168. could represent private class C subnets. Another fragment that would likely be used is 127.0.0., which represents loopback addresses. I might want to add a partial remote address for pdx.edu, 131 something. I need to check the IP's that are listed for partial matches and remove matches from the list. What I am envisioning, a spammer manages to forge an IP address I have to accept email from causing me to lose legitimate email. While spam is not going to have an RFC1918 address in it, someone may put a local message in their spam folder accidentally. If the timing is right, that message ends up in the spam account and could end up being processed. While this is only a problem if the IP server is probed by an internal email server, having bad information in the IP server is probably a bad idea. All the server does is answer YES meaning that the IP is listed or NO which means that it isn't listed. I don't know how to encrypt data transmissions that are established using Net::EasyTCP, another issue. Logically, it should say NO if asked about a local address or an address that should never be listed. What is the likelihood of a spammer forging say pdx.edu or the google address that hosts gmail? Is this a problem I need to solve or not? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Build a tarpit in perl...
#!/usr/bin/perl # # Purpose: Slow down the spammers by delaying the smtp transaction when # a recognized problem IP connects. use strict; use Net::PcapUtils; use NetPacket::Ethernet qw(:strip); use NetPacket::IP; use IPTables::IPv4::IPQueue; use Net::EasyTCP; Can someone explain why I need Net::PcapUtils, NetPacket::Ethernet, and NetPacket::IP? I assume that I need IPTables::IPv4::IPQueue to work with userspace queueing of packets. I'm queueing all packets coming to port 25 from the Internet, or I will be when I get this script written ;-) Do I need any other use statements? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Wireless broadband and Linux...
Comcast is expensive. I pay for my cable Internet every month and at the end of the 1st year, even if I drop digital voice service, I'll probably pay more. Yeah Comcast is reasonably fast, no it is not cheap. I don't like the games Comcast plays with special offers where it's cheap in the beginning and excruciatingly expensive 6 months to a year down the road. At least the basic phone service is cheaper than CenturyLink basic line. Forget the deluxe phone service. So one question I'm asking is, what kind of backup broadband service do I want, if any, in the future? Another question I'm asking, will that be wireless broadband? I own my cable modem and was thinking, I can disconnect and later reconnect service... Trouble is, for how long will the current Arris TM722G be the ideal cable modem to have? I'm hovering just below $64/month right now and will be till Christmas probably. I really don't have any complaints about Comcast service overall, just the price bothers me. So I see that Sprint offers wireless broadband in the Portland/Scappoose area and ATT of course has some offerings as well. There's Verizon, but I think Verizon equals expensive. Pay as you go could be attractive, but I see ripoff big time. For pay as you go to be attractive, it has to be purchasable in one month increments and should be preferably less than $60/month for a reasonable amount of time online to unlimited time online. Also mandatory, no contract and no automatic re-enrollment. If voice service can be thrown in with the wireless broadband, great. What I want to know is what works with Linux as far as wireless broadband is concerned? What doesn't work with Linux? If I'm going to be paying $60/month or more for broadband staying with Comcast, can I get portable broadband for the same price or less? SO far using google I'm haven't been impressed with what I've found out. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Wireless broadband and Linux...
Okay, I checked out Clear which has a great 4G package, but unfortunately it doesn't cover 97201 or 97056 yet. I'm on the list though for when it becomes available. I hope that list grows enough to convince Clear to expand to Portland and beyond. I wish Comcast would reconsider their pricing policy. Penalizing customers for staying with you seems ludicrous. Christmas is the magic date when I have to change. Either I drop Digital Voice service and continue with cable Internet or I do something altogether different. What does Android cost and who offers service for it? On Sat, 2011-08-13 at 11:38 -0700, Bill Barry wrote: On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Michael C. Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: So one question I'm asking is, what kind of backup broadband service do I want, if any, in the future? Another question I'm asking, I use a Verizon Android as a backup to my DSL service. You tether the phone to the system via a USB cable and a tethering app and if you have good 3G coverage, your in business. I have had to use this as a backup about 3 times over the last year. Bill ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] MPEG4 file editing...
I'm looking at Arcsoft's package for doing this under Windows, but I wonder if there is a decent open source free alternative? I use handbrake to go from DVD to MPEG4. So far this works because the DVDs aren't encrypted. I want to do things like trim out commercials and dead space from when I fell asleep and let the tape run out. The machine I'm using to record the DVD's has a 1 hour setting, a 2 hour 4 minutes setting, a 3 hour something setting, and I believe a 4 hour setting. Unfortunately, you can't look on the tape box, dial in the time plus 4-5 minutes, and leave. The machine should be modified, but modifying it isn't trivial. A unit with built-in Grex and/or a unit that doesn't recognize copy protection codes would be great. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] IPTables::IPv4::IPQueue on CentOS...
Has anyone gotten this to install? Using install IPTables::IPv4::IPQueue in cpan, I get an error during the test phase: Test Summary Report --- t/simple.t (Wstat: 0 Tests: 4 Failed: 1) Failed test: 3 Files=1, Tests=4, 0 wallclock secs ( 0.12 usr 0.01 sys + 0.06 cusr 0.02 csys = 0.21 CPU) Result: FAIL Failed 1/1 test programs. 1/4 subtests failed. make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255 /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK Running make install make test had returned bad status, won't install without force I'm running the stock Perl 5.8.8 right now. Using CPAN, I have installed IPTables::IPv4, Net::EasyTCP, Test::Harness, and ExtUtils::MakeMaker. [root@web netfilter]# ls libnetfilter_queue-1.0.0 libnetfilter_queue-1.0.0.tar.bz2 libnetfilter_queue-1.0.0.tar.bz2.md5sum libnetfilter_queue-1.0.0.tar.bz2.sha1sum libnetfilter_queue-1.0.0.tar.bz2.sig libnfnetlink-1.0.0-2.el5.i386.rpm libnfnetlink-devel-1.0.0-2.el5.i386.rpm [root@web netfilter]# Note the above listing, I installed libnetfilter_queue-1.0.0 using a /usr prefix and I have installed the two rpms. I also installed iptables-devel via yum. Seems I should have everything needed to install the mentioned CPAN module, so what's missing? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] IPTables::IPv4::IPQueue on CentOS...
Did you look at the 't/simple.t' test file for a test 3 (it's clearly
labelled)? What the test is doing is verifying that you have a proc file at
'/proc/net/ip_queue' and that it can find a line that looks like the
following:
Peer PID : 0
I'm guessing that you don't have the proc file it's looking for. Try
loading the ip_queue kernel module:
$ modprobe ip_queue
[root@xerxes perlipq-1.25]# cat /proc/net/ip_queue
Peer PID : 0
Copy mode : 0
Copy range: 0
Queue length : 0
Queue max. length : 1024
Queue dropped : 0
Netlink dropped : 0
[root@xerxes perlipq-1.25]#
What else would make test 3 fail???
Looking at the code below for test 3, nothing is jumping out at me.
#
# Test 3 - Verify against /proc entry
#
$procfile = '/proc/net/ip_queue';
if (!open PROC, $procfile) {
print not ok 3\n;
die Fatal: unable to open $procfile: $!;
}
while (PROC) {
if (/^Peer pid\s+:\s+(\d+)/) {
$procpid = $1;
last;
}
}
close PROC;
if (!$procpid) {
print not ok 3\n;
} else {
if ($procpid != $$) {
print not ok 3\n;
} else {
print ok 3\n;
}
}
[root@xerxes perlipq-1.25]# /sbin/lsmod |grep ip_queue
ip_queue 14433 0
[root@xerxes perlipq-1.25]#
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[PLUG] Hmm, no IP address???
I'm planning on using IPTables::IPv4::IPQueue where I need to know the source IP address, a logical address, to know what to do. What I think I want to do is create two Perl programs that communicate via Net::EasyTCP connections. One program will get the spam source IP addresses from the spam and answer yes/no to the do you have this IP address from the other Perl program. The other Perl program will handle asking the question, queue up the email, and then if appropriate slow the email down. Basically, one Perl program is a very simplified name server where the other Perl program is a tarpit driven by the presence/absence of the connecting IP in the name server. Looking over the CPAN site, it doesn't look like remote IP address is something that is easily grabbed. Is there a way when the packet is queued to get the IP addresses? The hardware MAC addresses are not what I need. For the tarpit program, I think the first step is queue the packets and retrieve the remote IP address followed by reinjecting them. Step 2 is to ask the name server Perl program about the remote IP address. Step 3 is to tarpit when appropriate. I will undoubtedly need some more help, but I am starting to get a clear picture of what these two Perl programs need to do. As far as the broken test, why hasn't the author of IPTables::IPv4::IPQueue fixed that? I tried manually testing with a manual fix, test 4 failed. I figure that test 4 wasn't failing before, so I force installed the package. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Perl sorting problem...
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 16:00 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Michael == Michael C Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com writes: Show me what might be in $a and $b there, and what order you want them in. Michael I saw $a = $b described as magic on the web, I know nothing Michael about it. It's two elements of the list. Michael Binary format as in I went from a string to a binary number via: Michael Net::IP::ip_iptobin($ip_string,4); Oh, those are simple. They're already just a series of bits. Sort them string-wise: my @sorted = sort @original_list; Done. :) Yes, awesome, done. Okay, stage 1 completed. For stage 2, I need to take an existing sorted list of binary numbers, sort a new list of these numbers, and combine the two in sorted order. I think I'll use perl to maintain the IP list and build a server to serve requests for these numbers from a C program. First things first, how to sort into a preexisting sorted list new numbers. Can arrays be concatenated in perl? If so, I'm thinking concatenate the new list and the old one and do a sort on the result. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] AMD HD5450 Catalyst driver...
There seems to be no overscan correction available. I'm running the latest Catalyst driver: ati-driver-installer-11-7-x86.x86_64.run The driver works great on CentOS, must be the fact that the X implementation is older. The Hitachi Ultravision doesn't seem to have built in overscan correction either. I'm on a rear projection HDTV. Anyone know where overscan correction is buried in catalyst control panel? Barring that, is there a way to fix this manually? I'm running 1920x1080, there is overlap on the top and bottom and on the sides. The GT220 Nvidia card I was using is bad and needs to go back for replacement. I assume the screen should look decent at POST and that junk suggests a damaged video card. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Asterisk 1.8 and dahdi...
I can call phones connected to the FXS ports on my Dahdi analog card, but I can't call anywhere from those phones. Anyone know the config changes I need to make to fix this? Only being able to receive calls is very limiting to say the least. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Perl sorting problem...
On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 16:32 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
someone == someone plu...@robinson-west.com writes:
someone By the way, I can't get Perl's sort function to do the right thing
someone exactly either.
someone my @sorted_ips=sort {$a = $b} @ip_list;
someone This command sorts the first octet correctly, but not the second,
someone third, or fourth octets. The numbers are in binary format when sort
someone is run on them.
What is binary format
Show me what might be in $a and $b there, and what order you want them
in.
I saw $a = $b described as magic on the web, I know nothing about it.
Binary format as in I went from a string to a binary number via:
Net::IP::ip_iptobin($ip_string,4);
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Re: [PLUG] Blu-Ray nonsense...
People rip Blu-Ray discs, encrypted or not, all the time. In many cases, they are putting the movies on a hard drive as that is more convenient. The hard disk is usually on a computer that is on a local area network. This way, sneaker net is not necessary to be able to watch a movie in different places in your own home. Sneaker net is undeniably legal, but it is inconvenient. Now, this is not as bad as typically what happens with sheet music. Typically, free copies are made of the sheet music and these copies are given to the choir. No royalty is typically paid for the copies. Worse yet, people who use sheet music often transpose it or otherwise modify it. Do these musicians have the right to do what they are doing? To repeat: If it's encrypted, fair use exceptions do not apply. Take that in for a second. According to the DMCA, you have the right to make media compatible with different playback devices. Maybe there's a problem with the law or just an inconsistency. I can't really comment too much about local law, and I am not a lawyer, but I can assure you that in Australia that interpretation is backed by at least some court precedent. It varies all over the place. The law is a mess. Nothing new there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-circumvention Sad to say, these technical measures *are* effective ways of preventing people doing legitimate things with legitimate data they paid for. See, this is where your argument has problems. You did not pay for the right to decrypt *and* copy the data for personal use. That's not a legitimate use, nor is it protected. That's what copy-right is, where all of this mess comes from... you do *not* have a right to make unencrypted copies. You can call it a backup, if you leave it encrypted, bit for bit, and get some legal cover, but once you alter it, things get sketchy really fast. If you have to decrypt a video to legitimately copy it for personal use, where personal use is allowed, there is a problem. It is preposterous to encrypt Blu-Ray discs in the first place and protecting encryption by abusing the copyright system is even more preposterous. Most encryption is easily overcome by serious pirates. Putting people in jail for defeating encryption schemes regardless of their reason for doing so and their intentions afterwards seems ludicrous. Encrypting videos is not fair to the public. If it was a military video, that might make sense. I don't think however that the Book of Eli or Transformers needs to be encrypted. What happens to Linux if you have to have a proprietary Windows based player to watch these movies? Are we going to reach a point where there is a charge per person to watch a Blu-Ray movie? There should be more emphasis on catching the ring leaders of illegal copy operations that turn out 1000's of copies and sell them. Average Joe who wants to play the Blu-Ray movie off of his hard drive running Linux should be left alone. The encryption does not add value to the movie for the consumer and the bad guys aren't stopped by it. If the law says that movies can be encrypted and that you have to leave the encryption intact no matter what, the law is badly written. Copyright was never supposed to trump fair use or reduce public benefit. Copyright has seemingly grown into a monster over time, not a temporary monopoly over a piece of original art that it was supposed to be. The idea behind the copyright is that people need to be able to profit from their art where they supposedly need a temporary monopoly to do that. I am not advocating that people be allowed to copy videos they haven't purchased. I am not trying to say that you should be able to copy a video and give your friend that copy. I do think that you shouldn't have to engage in sneakernet and you shouldn't have to worry that your only copy will get scratched. Plus, Blu-Ray collections that are large become inconvenient and impractical if you don't copy the movies to a single hard disk. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Blu-Ray nonsense...
On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 09:33 -0700, Russell Johnson wrote: Please allow this off topic thread to die on plug talk. On Aug 2, 2011, at 11:31 PM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: People rip Blu-Ray discs, encrypted or not, all the time. What makes talking about what people need to do to put videos on the hard drive of their Linux media server off topic on a Linux list??? What makes talking about having access to media from Linux in general off topic on a Linux mailing list??? This isn't off topic and it doesn't belong on that unfriendly rag called plug-talk. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Blu-Ray nonsense...
Where is the suggestion that I'm trying to legally entrap someone coming from? I'm neither a lawyer nor a judge and even if I was I'd have no interest in entrapping people who in my opinion want to legitimately adapt their video collections to work with Linux. Why is everybody running scared and crying that the sky is falling? I see nothing inherently wrong with trying to build a Linux based media center even if I do intend to play the content of Blu-Ray discs off of a hard drive for what should be obvious and reasonable reasons. Maybe the law right now is stupid and maybe the FBI warning on videos has gotten out of control. If the law as it is is bad news and it isn't challenged aggressively, it won't change. If we don't speak up against imprisonment of people who are not Blu-Ray pirates, will that stop either? Are you telling me quite honestly that there is a go ahead and break the encryption but don't talk about it attitude? Or worse is their a, yes we question the use of encryption on Blu-Ray discs, but you shouldn't break the law attitude? Bad laws have to be broken, to not do so is to accept the status quo and perpetuate a potentially major problem. Maybe we should be proud of people who have gone to prison for cracking Blu-Ray encryption and telling their friends how to do it. I believe Finland is forward thinking in that people aren't thrown in prison for defeating the encryption on a Blu-Ray disc that they have purchased. I realize that people don't want to go to prison, but standing by and doing nothing, the situation will only get worse. I have never advocated profiting from the decryption of DVDs/Blu_Rays. All I ask is that fair use be restored, after all I'm talking about people who have purchased the DVD/Blu-Ray disc they want to put on their hard drive. All I'm asking for is the right to play the movie I purchased from a Linux based computer. What is the real problem with copying anyways? I can understand being upset if guy a copies movie x and gives that copy to guy b who sells it to people c-z. Oops, the holder of the copyright lost on those sales. But what I am talking about is what should be an easily prosecuted movie copying operation. If the major copy houses are prosecuted, that should be enough for the authors to reasonably profit from their work. Do small time copying operations where the copies are used for personal entertainment really pose a problem? The common sense answer is no, but I guess that common sense doesn't prevail this close to Redmond. Frankly, the abuse of the MPAA and the RIAA are an embarrassment to me. The greed of the MPAA and RIAA has to be reined in before the situation becomes completely untenable. I hope it doesn't take a revolution to end abuses perpetuated through our horribly bastardized copyright law. I have not contributed to this thread earlier because it isn't really of any interest to me, but your latest question is. (a) the technical aspect of your quest is on topic (in my opinion) (b) the legal aspect of your quest belongs, possibly on plug-talk, probably in a lawyer's office (again, in my opinion) I should venture to suggest that few on this list are legal experts, and it would be inappropriate, possibly even deemed as entrapment, to solicit legal opinions on this list. Possibly no legal professional would care to express an opinion here, on the matter, either. While I may or may not sympathize with your predicament and your quest, that would be all that I would be interested in saying. Regards Fred James ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Blu-Ray nonsense...
On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 01:57 -0700, Vincent L. Damewood wrote: On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Michael C. Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: Personally? I would just buy a Blu-Ray player box if I wanted to watch the things. Any real computing platform is going to make it way, way more pain than just pirating the content would be. For your protection, of course. ;) Daniel I'm not trying to pirate Blu-Ray discs. I do have a legal right to circumvent copy protection for making legitimate backup copies if I own the Blu-Ray disc. No, you don't, if the Blu-Ray Disc is encrypted. I respectfully disagree with you. A judge would have to enforce your interpretation which is ridiculous from the standpoint of fair use. I believe there are countries already that are refusing to prosecute people who circumvent copy protection schemes to make legitimate personal use copies. Now then, if a vendor wants to offer me a digital copy that I can download legally, that is a whole lot easier than trying to overcome copy protection. Section 1201 Circumvention of Copyright Protection Systems [...] No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title. http://www.copyright.gov/title17/ ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Spamcannibal MakeMaker mess...
I installed perl-5.14.1 from source and followed a Redhat Enterprise Linux how to upgrade to 5.10.0 to deduce what perl packages need to be added manually. None of the GD packages want to install, don't know how important these are though. I couldn't get the Glib or Gtk packages to install either. I had trouble as well with the IO::SSLeay package. The real trouble though is with Spamcannibal. Apparently, Michael Robinton hacked MakeMaker, and it has since been updated. I got a bunch of warnings in CPAN. Is there a way to back a package out in perl? I hate to start over entirely again. At least I stored a list of what packages I added to try to satisfy what the stock perl has. True that perl is a dependency for many things, but Redhat is so slow to upgrade perl and so many bugs are getting squashed that it is downright scary to stick with the stock 5.8.8. Back to MakeMaker, how do I safely use the older version temporarily to get past the warnings? Is there any chance that someone has a competing package that does the same thing without ugly hacks? How about a commercial tarpit program? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] XID database for Windows and Linux???
XID is a program that allows you to have say a picture and multiple ways to reference that picture. The software works on Windows. Is there a Linux version? Has anyone used XID under WINE? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Blu-Ray nonsense...
Are most or all PCI express video cards these days designed for encrypted Blu Ray disc compatibility? I don't want to deal with anything encrypted and I certainly don't want a video card that will keep me from viewing certain content. This is one reason why a lot of folks stay away, far away, from Windows. I'm looking for a high end PCI express graphics or at least one that doesn't require proprietary drivers to work under Linux. The card must have an HDMI port and I prefer that that be all that it has. I have an onboard vga port, so if I want a second monitor, I can use that. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Blu-Ray nonsense...
Personally? I would just buy a Blu-Ray player box if I wanted to watch the things. Any real computing platform is going to make it way, way more pain than just pirating the content would be. For your protection, of course. ;) Daniel I'm not trying to pirate Blu-Ray discs. I do have a legal right to circumvent copy protection for making legitimate backup copies if I own the Blu-Ray disc. I so far am not dealing with Blu-Ray discs. I'm merely trying to replace the AMD Radeon HD5450 that burned out, second time, which was installed in my desktop computer. I don't care about plugging in HD tv's and if I want a second monitor, I have a VGA plug on the motherboard. Don't confuse my video card burning out again with a separate project I'm working on to build a Linux based set top box. For the set top box, I'm merely trying to set the computer up on one of the inputs of an HDTV and I have numerous movies ripped to m4v files sitting on a local hard drive. Hopefully, overscan won't be a problem with the NVIDIA GeForce 220 low profile card I'm getting. I also have pictures on the set top computer. Even Blu-Ray players get to be a royal pain if you have any decent number of Blu-Ray discs. This is what large hard drives are for. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] AMD HD5450 problems...
I think another one has blown. The proprietary Linux driver is no good, Catalyst needs to be fixed. I think this video card only works well in Windows 7. I can't even get the card to post right now. I get a no input error. So, I've switched to the Internal VGA port. I might be able to use the VGA output on the HD5450, but I shouldn't have to. Anyone have any idea at all why the HDMI port on the HD5450 goes out? It fails so completely that the computer won't even display video at POST. This motherboard has a standard PCI express port, can I replace this junk video card with one that will perform well under Linux? I want something that does NOT need a proprietary driver like Catalyst which has serious bugs. I am not sending this video card in for replacement again. It should not be failing so soon, the card should work with the board as it came with the Barebones kit. I went to AMD thinking, maybe my video woes will end. Now I'm thinking, AMD is as bad or worse than Intel. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Confused about multi core processors...
I have a D945GCZ Intel Motherboard with an LGA 775 processor socket and a 3.06 Ghz P4 on it. I'm trying to stream mpeg 4 files to a television. So far, I'm testing playback using the onboard video. I notice there are stopping issues with the video. Obvious question, do I need a video card? Maybe I need to upgrade from 1 gig to 4 gigs of ram, not too expensive. Maybe I need a faster processor? It appears that I can install a Pentium D processor, but these are very inefficient processors power wise and I'd have to switch to 64 bit CentOS. Apparently, Core Duo processors are 32 bit and multi core but I can't find any. There are Celeron D processors as well to confuse matters more. There are Core 2 Quad and Core 2 Duo processors, but these don't seem to be compatible with my motherboard. I'm ordering an Nvidia GT220 video card, I'm hoping that will work well in Linux. The trouble obviously is that there are three upgrade paths. I can increase the memory, I am upgrading the video, and I can change the processor. So there are two upgrade paths left assuming that I have chosen wisely when it comes to the video card. Do I need to run the other two upgrade paths down? Does MPEG4 playback require a dual core or better processor? Will an atom processor outperform a Pentium 4? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Qwest no more?
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[PLUG] Whiite Linux questions...
True or false, the Wii is not capable of HD resolution? True or false, the cube driver cannot be adjusted to fit the screen? True or false, Homebrew Linux on the Wii is not a good way to stream local videos and pictures? The Wii does have a Nintendo provided Netflix app, how does that work if the Wii can't output in high resolution? If the Wii won't work, what is the best pci express video card with DVI output for this purpose Linux wise? Needed, a card that doesn't require a proprietary Linux driver. I have a mini btx Pentium 4 system I can use instead of the Wii. It is bulky and I'd prefer not to, but I don't see any good low cost alternatives at this point. How does one adjust the Linux console on a Linux PC to fit the television screen? This isn't really a problem on the Wii if you use the right kernel. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] fetchmail problem...
If I leave the smtphost part out, fetchmail tries to go to localhost port 25 which is the relay host and the email disappears, probably because spam is not a valid relay destination. I have another server on port 26 that will deliver spam locally, but I can't seem to tell fetchmail to go to a different port. Even if I add an IP address and a REDIRECT rule, fetchmail is rejected. Maybe I need to add the name of the other IP address to the port 26 Postfix server? I don't understand why fetchmail has to use an SMTP server to deliver mail locally. I also don't get why the email showed up on the right machine when I had a .forward file feeding it to procmail. A thought is to use procmail somehow on the mail hub to redirect, change the to address to spam at relay hostname. If email hits port 25 on the internal address of the relay, it gets redirected to port 26 automatically and my problem is solved. Well, getting email to sc_mailfilter.pl is only one problem. Note that forwarding the email where the source address changes defeats the whole purpose of sending the spam to sc_mailfilter.pl. Also note that there are two gateways which rules out a .forward file on the mailhub. I'm currently using fetchmail on the mail hub to get spam into the spam account. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
