RE: stupid trivia
-Original Message- From: Walker, Jason [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 6:25 PM To: passenger side Subject: RE: stupid trivia It was Rickey Fataar, wasn't it? Barry Wom? [Matt Benz] Yep! The "George Harrison" character, naturally, since Fataar looks to be on Indian descent
crappy rock or punk?
Carl Wilson made some interesting points when he noted that many arguments about the relative merits of various types of country music can be distilled into preferences over which type of rock 'n roll is informing the country music. I'd agree, though I'd add that the same sort of arguments can be distilled into preferences over which sort of system has deliverered the music to our ears. If it's a system that tends to extinguish creativity by all but the most powerful and influential performers and producers, then I'd say, by and large, it's going to be a corrupt system, and a lot of the junk that comes out of it is going to be mediocre. As we've concluded repeatedly on this list after such debates, this is more or less the way it's been for a long time. It's nothing new. However, as some of us have also concluded, this sort of phenomenon is only reinforced and heightened by mass marketing, computers, concentration of ownership in radio, etc. Also, of course, punk influences are much more interesting than Doobie Brothers influences. That was a value judgment that I'd argue on any damn coffee table. -- Terry Smith ps off to San Francisco today for a newspaper conference. Maybe I'll try to hit Slim's for Geoff Muldaur and James McMurtry.
Re: Steve Del
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and I kinda missed the "Steve Earle isn't bluegrass" thread from a while back, so if anyone can remind me of what that was all about I'd appreciate it. From what I recall, one tentative objection (Jon W?) was to earle's voice, which was thought not to be a great bluegrass tool. But this was way back when the rumours first emerged. From the trickles of responses I have come across, purists have been pleasantly surprised by the results of the collaboration Looking forward to hearing it one day myself. Stevie
RE: Other Artists' Early Work (was Re: Dixie Chicks)
All right, I was paging through P2 stuff hastily, so there's a chance I missed it, but I do believe that no one's mentioned Emmylou Harris's efforts to erase history. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: Zevon (was Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm, this is interesting; is he a big pro-gun dude? And what's the deal with military stuff? I have none of his stuff but all of the talk about him around here of late has really peaked my interest... I suspect he is simply fascinated with the Hunter S Thompson/Duke persona and likes to write about that type of character. I doubt that he has any experience as a globe trotting drug running gun for hire. But I could be wrong. Bill Lavery http://villagerecords.com/
Re: One More Zevon note
Carl Abraham Zimring wrote: I'll Sleep When I'm Dead is a fine collection, but it lacks some of the strongest songs from his 1982 album The Envoy, including "Charlie's Medicine". Unfortunately Elektra has never issued The Envoy on disc, nor his excellent live record from 1980 (Stand in the Fire). I've been waiting for those two to come out since I first purchased a cd player back in 1987. The wait continues... I love this package. To me it demonstates a consistency in style that spans quite a bit of time without regard to his populartity at any point in time. In other words, this is what Warren does, and has done take it or leave it. Unlike many other career spanning double CDs, you don't feel a need to skip the first five or six songs or the last five or six songs. Like you might with the Edmunds package or the j. Geils one. BTW, I saw someone selling a vinyl copy of Stand In The Fire on eBay the other day. Bill Lavery http://villagerecords.com/
Re: Zevon (was Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt)
Carl Abraham Zimring wrote: Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 27-Jan-99 Re: Zevon (was Re: other vo.. by "William T. Cocke"@serve including what may be his only straight country song (the name of which escapes me now), a duet with Dwight Yoakum. "Heartache Spoken Here." Mr. Bad Example, as good as anything he ever did. Way underrated. Can usually be found in the used sections of your favorite indie store for almost nothing. Take a chance. Bill Lavery http://villagerecords.com/
Re: Lucindavision (was: Re: Night Flight (was: Re: I can't helpit...McHale's Navy TV-Rock Fluff))
Howdy, Amy says of Rob Thomas' contributions to the ABC television show, "Cupid,": Rob Thomas always peppers his novels with interesting and un-obvious music references, so it's a good bet that he's the source of any good music on the show. And the source for any *bad* music on the show would be...? g Take care, Shane Rhyne --- thinkin' about applying for the "bad music consultant" job if the networks have an opening. Knoxville, TN [EMAIL PROTECTED] NP: Bob Egan's new one
Re: stupid trivia
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 28-Jan-99 Re: stupid trivia by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oddly enough, Fataar was a drummer with the Beach Boys, though from what I can tell in the Rutles footage and albums, he's a very gifted guitarist, too. Possibly, though I'm pretty sure all the guitar, bass, keyboards and singing on the Rutles records was done by Neil Innes. He may also have played the drums. Carl Z.
Clip: eBay investigated for fraud
Howdy, Not a drop of twang... but since you guys are addicted to that web site... eBay investigated for fraud Associated Press-- New York After vowing to combat fraud, online auction service eBay Inc. finds itself the subject of a fraud investigation being conducted by the city's Department of Consumer Affairs. The department is looking into whether people who use eBay to sell items [are] falsely label[ing] some sports memorabilia as "one-of-a-kind," a source close to the investigation told The Associated Press. Department officials confirmed the probe but refused further comment. The probe raises the question of whether eBay can be held accountable for allegedly unscrupulous sellers and how it could monitor claims made in each sale. eBay receives an average of 27 fraud complaints for every 1 million auctions, the company said. # # # Take care, Shane Rhyne Knoxville, TN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VCR Alert
9p EST TNN - HELLO DARLIN': A TRIBUTE TO CONWAY TWITTY - Vince Gill; Travis Tritt; Kathy Mattea; Sam Moore; K.T. Oslin; Michael Bolton; Reba McEntire; Wynonna; Joe Diffie; Mark Chesnutt; Sammy Kershaw; James Bonamy.(CC)(TVG) I don't know if this is a rebroadcast. There are likely to be some good performances there, most likely not including Michael Bolton's. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: VCR Alert
9p EST TNN - HELLO DARLIN': A TRIBUTE TO CONWAY TWITTY - Vince Gill; Travis Tritt; Kathy Mattea; Sam Moore; K.T. Oslin; Michael Bolton; Reba McEntire; Wynonna; Joe Diffie; Mark Chesnutt; Sammy Kershaw; James Bonamy.(CC)(TVG) I don't know if this is a rebroadcast. There are likely to be some good performances there, most likely not including Michael Bolton's. One more for the VCR watch: AE's country entertainers week will conclude w/ a live Vince Gill concert this Saturday night at 8:00.
RE: HNC
Hot New Country. i.e. "not your parents old twangy country" Promo slogan for denatured country music designed to appeal to a particular primo demographic. Soft and 70s rock crap with a fiddle buried way way back. So, this is what I learned today: HNC is not really "hot." It's new only in that its not "old." And it's barely "country." Hmm, I'm confused. No need to be confused; the first line of Stuart's definition is right. After that it's more problematic, insofar as it describes only a part of what's available on mainstream country radio; there's a good deal more fiddle and steel guitar to be heard from the mainstream than from the alt.country side. It's revealing, though, in terms of what Carl Wilson was discussing - i.e., the "soft and 70s rock crap" is a marker indicating that the underlying point is the writer's taste in rock music. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Booking info. on Big Sandy?
Does anyone have a contact number for a booking agent for Big Sandy His Flyrite Boys? Any help at all, on or off list, would be most gratefully received. Cheers Kirsty Fitzsimons
RE: Twitty (Re: VCR Alert)
Don't know where Twitty falls in the "country greats" pecking order #3 on Billboard's list of radio hitmeisters since 1944, right between George Jones and Johnny Cash. Deservedly so. "Linda on My Mind" is pretty damn cool... There's an understatement, as far as I'm concerned. "Linda" is a serious contender for any list of the very greatest country songs. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
RE: Steve Del
Working backwards... Stevie said: From what I recall, one tentative objection (Jon W?) was to earle's voice, which was thought not to be a great bluegrass tool. Not an objection, an observation. Which I stand by. Thinking about bluegrass voices, Earle basically hasn't got one. From which it does not follow, I hasten to add, that The Mountain is not a bluegrass album; by and large, it is. Stevie was replying to Jim, who said inter alia: It's due on February 23, I think, and contains some of Steve's best songs ever. 2/23 it is. Oddly enough, though I've had an advance for more than a month, and though I got the final a little more than a week ago, Del'n'em had not seen it until I showed them my copy yesterday. They were bemused by the cover art. The most likeable thing about it, is the looseness of it. For some folks, not for everyone g. For me, the most likeable thing about it is the songs, and Earle's dedication to really taking bluegrass seriously. I like the album. For a much lengthier discussion of The Mountain and the McCoury experience in making it, see my forthcoming article in Bluegrass Now; it should be in the April issue. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Jimmy Day
Amy Haugesag wrote: The prospect of a new Kimmie record and our own Sir President Joe Gracey Sir back amongst us is almost too much good news to take in at once. Luckily, there's no heat in my apartment (er, that is, the one room of my apartment that's habitable), so I can't get *too* happy all at once. Welcome back, Joe. You've been missed. --Amy did you say "dissed"? It is currently 95 degrees in Austin. God-damn, I had forgotten about the pedal steel guitar. Yesterday at Jimmy Day's funeral (made fragrant by the odor of band bus fumes wafting through the room when the doors would open, fittingly) I remembered. Jimmy Day, possibly the greatest steel player of all time, was buried yesterday in a little town south of Austin. There were a bunch of people there, overflowing out into the front yard, a testament to how much love and respect he engendered. Jimmy and I went back to the early seventies when he was in Willie's band and I was a progressive-country DJ and music writer. I remember the first time I noticed him much; Willie played at a Ford dealer's here (in return for a new station wagon so they could get around) and I suddenly noticed what a beautiful sound he created around Willie's voice. I subsequently became a producer and used him every chance I could on sessions. Kimmie and I brought him into our Texas Swing band for several years, then he turned around and started a band and pretty soon we were in it, traveling around Texas doing gigs. We'd play a dance hall down in Bandera that Wills and Willie and Bush had consecrated, turn around and drive back home at 4 AM and Kimmie would be up two hours later to go to her job in town. Having Jimmy in your band was pure joy. He was always the one you could turn to to give you a rock-solid intro, even if he had only heard the song one time three years before. You could always lean on him for a great solo, with a perfect handoff into the chorus. His pickup notes would be cues to everybody else in the band so they all knew where it was headed next. Sessions were the same. He defined "pro". He came on time, sober, didn't talk about his problems, kept his mouth shut unless asked for his opinion, and played totally useable, brilliant stuff, normally on the first take. He wouldn't write a chord chart; he would just play through the song a couple of times, memorize it (no matter how tough the changes might be) and nail it. He said he learned his studio chops doing demos at Tree Music, where they got paid ten dollars per demo. This encouraged speed and not screwing up, since the more songs you got cut in a session the more money you got paid. Later I got to record several records for him. They turned into great projects, with guests like Johnny Bush and Willie and Rodriquez. One of them transmogrified into a Willie Nelson record because Willie came in to sing a song and stayed for four days. Not long after that Willie and I recorded "Spirit", so I have Jimmy to thank for that. I considered him to be a soul brother, something far beyond a professional relationship. If I was still a hippie I'd say I'd known him for a thousand lifetimes. There is debate, of course, on who is the best. I have worked with Tom Brumley (Buck Owens, Rick Nelson), Buddy Emmons (Ernest Tubb, everybody), Leon McAuliffe (Bob Wills), Herb Remington (Bob Wills), and a lot of other players, including getting to watch Lloyd Green do a session with Gene Watson, and to my way of thinking Jimmy had the ability to project more of his spirit into his playing than anybody. Obviously all of those guys could play their asses off, and most people probably give Emmons the nod as to technical proficiency, but for pure searing blue soul, it was Jimmy for me. Jimmy's Blue Darlin' steel and amp were set up and turned on next to the casket, ready to be played, at the funeral. This was pretty tough, but I was OK. But then they started to play some of his famous records- Crazy Arms, Patsy Cline stuff, Willie, George Jones, and finally some of the stuff we did together for his last sessions. The enormous depth of feeling in his playing hit me harder than ever before and I couldn't help but cry like an idiot then. Man, steel is such an emotional instrument in the right hands. (Sometimes when people would say something about how great his steel sounded, he'd hold up his long, beautiful hands and say "These help..." as a gentle, humourous reminder that it was the driver, not the hardware. He was not falsely modest, nor did he hold forth on himself. He just recognized that he was a single-purpose instrument and he had accomplished what he was supposed to.) I am glad that Jimmy Day played on our most recent recordings. He played on every record that Kimmie and I have made. We recorded one of his songs, "Home John", on "West Texas Heaven". I almost wish I could die right now just to hear Jimmy Day play steel with Bob Wills and Hank Williams. I am honored to have known him and loved him and
RE: Booking info. on Big Sandy?
On Thursday, January 28, 1999 11:41 AM, Loud Promotions [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Does anyone have a contact number for a booking agent for Big Sandy His Flyrite Boys? Any help at all, on or off list, would be most gratefully received. Cheers Kirsty Fitzsimons Mongrel Music 415-512-7877. Fax 415-512-1439
Re: Jimmy Day
Thanks Joe!
Re: Lucindavision (was: Re: Night Flight (was: Re: I can't help it...McHale's Navy TV-Rock Fluff))
Amy Haugesag wrote: Jerald writes: Also worth mentioning that the new ABC show "Cupid" recently featured a Lucinda Williams song. I don't know enough about her songs to tell one from the other, but it had the lines "I thought I'd lost, but I'm glad I found it" or something like that. One of the creators of that show is a former Austinite, Rob Thomas. Former Austinite and current young adult novelist--and a damn good one, too. Rob Thomas always peppers his novels with interesting and un-obvious music references, so it's a good bet that he's the source of any good music on the show. FWIW, ABC just halted production on "Cupid". Details at http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/en/story.html?s=v/nm/19990128/en/television-cupid_2.html Too bad, though the TV season is never complete without the cancellation of a show that deserved a bigger audience. That ABC had 2 others that come to mind for me right away (My So Called Life and Murder One) is totally random, I'm sure. g May the Walt Disney Co. rot in hell, with Eisner as one of Lucifer's bestest buds. former Disney employee, for a year or so anyway, b.s. n.p. Git Gone
Re: soul
Claire Nixon wrote: Does anyone here like motown? I'm not real fond of the records, but I love the bass player... -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: soul
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 28-Jan-99 Re: soul by Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone here like motown? I'm not real fond of the records, but I love the bass player... James Jamerson, for those of you scoring at home. Carl Z. fond of Jamerson, many Motown records, and Joe's fine post on Jimmy Day
The Judybats
I am wondering if anyone knows what's up with this band. Yjey put out 4 albums between 1990- and 94. Then they broke up, reformed under the name The Doubters Club and self-released and album. then they disappeared. In fact searches on Musicblvd, CDNow and those types of places turn up nothing despite the fact that they release 4 albums on a major label(Sire). I can't remember where, but I seem to remember reading something awile back about the band regforming under a name very similar to the Judybats(I think it just had another word or something added on to it). Does anyone know anything about this? Especially people from Tenesse, they were a Knoxville based band, and I thought I read something about them playing a show in their newest incarnation. Any info would be appreciated.
Re: SV: Zevon (was Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt)
Reply to: Re: SV: Zevon (was Re: other voices - Linda Ronstadt) One of the Zevon websites (http://members.aol.com/zevonfan1/private/zevon.htm) has a great interview culled from Goldmine. A lengthy, and fascinating look at the Excitable Boy. Can't remember if it covers Stravinsky but it's still fascinating as are Warren's recollections of being a studio musician in the 60's. Warren couldn't play a lick (then) but he had a 12 String just like Roger McQuinn so he got hired for a lot of dates. Funny stuff. Check it out. CD Geffry King wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Geir Nyborg wrote: Some years ago I read an article about Zevon at the age of 12 or 13, and how his music teacher got him an audience with Igor Stravinsky at his home in So. Cal. Won't even try to quote it or name the source but it was fascinating.
Re: The Judybats
If I'm not mistaken, there is a former Judybat or two (along with a former V-Roy) in a band called the Nevers who are supposed to have a new CD out this month. --Slonedog
Re: soul
On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Claire Nixon wrote: Does anyone here like motown? When it comes to Soul music I prefer Stax stuff, but...yeah! Motown Records put out some very heavy sides, especially in the '60's. Twang content: Records that *successfully* combine country and soul elements are as wonderful as they are rare.
Re: soul
Some but prefer Stax/Volt Memphis stuff Iceman Claire Nixon wrote: Does anyone here like motown?
Re: The Sopranos (was:Lucindavision and a bunch of stuff)
Shannon Lasater wrote: On a happier note, I don't think anyone has mentioned HBO's new series The Sopranos. Besides being a very well written show about a subject (a mob family) that I though was exhausted, it also has an incredible soundtrack. The opening sequence uses A3's "Woke Up This Morning" and during the first three weeks viewers have heard Nick Lowe's "The Beast In Me", Booker T and the MGs songs, and numerous other tunes which should be of interest to P2ers. Also, thanks to Joe Gracey for that incredible post, writing like that is the reason I lurk here. Um, what Shannon said, %101. And hey Shannon, you're not lurking if you're posting. gSo why lurk? b.s.
RE: The Sopranos
On Thursday, January 28, 1999 2:11 PM, Shannon Lasater [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: b.s. wrote: FWIW, ABC just halted production on "Cupid". That stinks, I only watch a few shows regularly and that happens to be one of them. Jeremy Piven and the show deserve better. On a happier note, I don't think anyone has mentioned HBO's new series The Sopranos. Besides being a very well written show about a subject (a mob family) that I though was exhausted, it also has an incredible soundtrack. The opening sequence uses A3's "Woke Up This Morning" and during the first three weeks viewers have heard Nick Lowe's "The Beast In Me", Booker T and the MGs songs, and numerous other tunes which should be of interest to P2ers. I have to second the recommendation of this show, for its music as well as the show itself. It's really good. Nancy Marchand is great in it, as is Edie Falco, who has been on Homicide a lot (another show with a very talented music supervisor).
Re: The Sopranos
James Gerard Roll wrote: I got cable just in time to catch the opening 3 episodes and it is my show of the year for plot and music. and I am italian, so it is resonating great. BIG EXTRA -- has anyone mentioned Little Steven's role -- he is perfect. I agree, Little Sugar Miami Steven Van Zandt is damn near the best thing in a show full of great actors. And the music IS fantastic! John Holcomb
RE: Jimmy Day
I was so moved I went and got all my albums and had my own little memorial, right here at the station, in front of everyone. Wynn
RE: Twitty (Re: VCR Alert)
Don't know where Twitty falls in the "country greats" pecking order #3 on Billboard's list of radio hitmeisters since 1944, right between George Jones and Johnny Cash. Deservedly so. "Linda on My Mind" is pretty damn cool... There's an understatement, as far as I'm concerned. "Linda" is a serious contender for any list of the very greatest country songs. But where would you rank "Tight Fittin' Jeans"? g jim
RE: soul
O, yeahh. A day without some soul music is like a day without sunshine. Favourites: Arthur Alexander - Back Roads, In The Middle Of It All Aretha Franklin, James Carr, Percy Sledge, Otis, Booker T The MGs - I know they're not strictly Motown but, what the hell. Junior Walker -- From: Claire Nixon[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 29 January 1999 5:47 To: passenger side Subject: soul Does anyone here like motown?
FYI:SF Bay Area RAB/Country Calendar
WEDNESDAY JANUARY 27 Big Sandy the Fly Rite Boys @ Agenda Lounge, 399 S. 1st, SJ 10pm THURSDAY JANUARY 28 Big Sandy the Fly Rite Boys @ Powerhouse Brewing Co., Sebastopol Hot Club of Cowtown @ Morgan's Coffee Tea, Monterey FRIDAY JANUARY 29 Hot Club of Cowtown/Andrea Hurley her Very Attractive Band @ Starry Plough, 3101 Shattuck, Berkeley 945pm $6 Big Sandy the Fly Rite Boys @ Rancho Nicasio, Town Sq., Nicasio 830pm SATURDAY JANUARY 30 Hot Club of Cowtown @ Amoeba Music, 1855 Haight, SF 2pm free in-store Hot Club of Cowtown/Kuntry K's @ Cafe DuNord, 2170 Market, SF 10pm $7 Red Meat/86 @ Starry Plough, 3101 Shattuck, Berkeley 945pm $5 TUESDAY FEBRUARY 2 Sean Kennedy the King Kats @ Fuel, 44 Alamden Ave., San José 9pm WEDNESDAY FEBRUARY 3 The Haywoods @ Agenda Lounge, 399 S. 1st, SJ 10pm record release party The Stillmen @ Elbo Room, 647 Valencia, San Francisco SATURDAY FEBRUARY 6 Red Meat/Jeff Bright Sunshine Boys @ El Rio, 3158 Mission, SF 9pm SUNDAY FEBRUARY 7 Naugahyde w/ Kate Shepard @ Club DeLuxe, 1509-11 Haight, SF 930pm WEDNESDAY FEBRUARY 10 The Rounders @ Elbo Room, 647 Valencia, San Francisco THURSDAY FEBRUARY 11 Cadillac Angels @ Pat O'Shea's Mad Hatter, 3848 Geary, San Francisco 9pm SATURDAY FEBRUARY 13 Red Meat/The Hollisters @ Club Deluxe, 1509-11 Haight, San Francisco SUNDAY FEBRUARY 14 Blue Bell Wranglers @ Club DeLuxe, 1509-11 Haight, San Francisco 930pm TUESDAY FEBRUARY 23 Big Guitar Show Live - Benefit for Big Myke Destiny: Cadillac Angels/The Chop Tops/Chicken Coupe DeVille/The Haywoods/Sean Kennedy the King Kats @ Fuel, 44 Alamden Ave., San José 9pm THURSDAY FEBRUARY 25 Cadillac Angels @ Moe's Alley, 1535 Commercial, Santa Cruz THURSDAY MARCH 12 The Haywoods @ Henfling's, 9450 Hwy 9, Ben Lomond Steve Hathaway, San Jose, California
Re: Daniel Johnston
influential '80's avant-pop band Glass Eye (along with K McCarty and Stella Weir). Which also included some members of the Meat Purveyors?? No, we just cover their song, "Dempsey Nash." Or, as they spell it, "Dimsey Naish." Or something like that. Although Purveyor Bill is on many fine Daniel Johnston records including the latest. Cherilyn (who considers Daniels resurfacing the best thing to happen to Austin music in 98 and I'll stand on Fastball's coffee table in my Manolos and say so)
Re: soul (of Carol Kaye)
On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Joe Gracey wrote: Jeff Sohn wrote: Don't forget Carol Kaye who also played on many Motown sessions including those of Stevie Wonder, Four Tops, Supremes, and Marvin Gaye. I may be completely wrong, but wouldn't that be later on after Motown moved out to LA? She was the LA session player who was part of the Wrecking Crew with Leon Russell and all them guys who played on everything from Phil Spector to Beach Boys to Byrds etc. Check out her web site - http://www.carolkaye.com She has also been a regular contributor to several bass players' lists I've been on such as the Bottom Line, and she always manages to hold her own in the rough and tumble world of the Internet. -- Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/ "We were having trouble getting a good clean bass sound. So instead of going with a standard 2/4 beat, I said, `Let's try a 4/4 bass and a shuffle rhythm,' and it cut. It cut clean through." -- Ray Price, on recording 'Crazy Arms'
Re: soul
Kip: Twang content: Records that *successfully* combine country and soul elements are as wonderful as they are rare. Neal: totally, because the down side means twangless groove rock with an acoustic guitar. Can you say "Dave Matthews Band"? Care to share some good examples? Well, the first one that really pops into my head as a prime example of good country-soul fusion is...the Band! Think of the way Danko's groovy bass works with Levon's dry-as-dust drumming style, and how the rhythm section then complimented the slinky guitar parts of Robbie Robertson, all while playing songs that easily and organically combined country, folk, blues and rock'n'roll elements. M. Mighty tasty. Kip
Re: soul
totally, because the down side means twangless groove rock with an acoustic guitar. Can you say "Dave Matthews Band"? Exactly. In fact, the more I thought about it, the more it seems like the country-soul equation gone awry equals AAA in general. Anyhoo, the Band is a marvelous example. Guess I gotta go hear some right now. In some way, I think Dave Alvin might be living in between such genres, but I guess it's more blues and country than it is soul. Neal Weiss
Barry and the Remains (Boston content)
From today's Boston Phoenix. --Jon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wollaston, Massachusetts The two preeminent punks bands to come out of Boston in the '60s, the Remains and the Lost, are making plans to share a bill at Avalon on March 20. This will be the first local show for either band since a brief Remains reunion in the '70s. Fronted by latter-day country artist Barry Tashian, the Remains made the classic single "Don't Look Back" and opened for the Beatles at Shea Stadium in 1965; Tashian has lately revived the group for a couple of recent New York shows. Willie Alexander's original band, the Lost, haven't played anywhere in more than 30 years. The week of the show will also see a reissue of the Lost's long-unavailable Capitol sessions on Arf-Arf. --Brett Milano
Playlist Jan 28 1999 - PBS-FM, Melbourne, Australia
Richard Buckner Faithful Shooter (Since) Richmond Fontaine Watsonville Waltz (Safety) Chris Buhalis Footprints in the Snow (Kenai Dreams) Brian Lillie the Squirrel Mountain Orchestra Too Early/Too Late (Row Boats) Birddog Fruita (Ghost of the Season) Last Train Home Who Could Blame Me (Last Train Home) - So Long Baby Goodbye (Blastered) Dave Alvin Laurel Lynn (Blackjack David) King Kerosene Help You Dream (Blastered) Jon Langford Im Stopping This Train (Skull Orchard) Waco Brothers Bad Times (To the Last Dead Cowboy) Bottle Rockets Chattanooga (Leftovers) - Things You Didnt Know (24 Hours a Day) The Gourds When Wine Was Cheap (Dems Good Beeble) Wagon Angeline (No Kinder Room) Beaver Nelson Drive You Home (The Last Hurrah) Bob Egan Satellite (Bob Egan) Wayward Angels Pay No Mind (Wayward Angels) Ghost Rockets Comin Up for Air (Bootlegs) Deliberate Strangers Marcella (Mood Music for Snake Handlers) Greta Lee You Just Dont Want Me (This Aint Over Yet) Matt Walker Ashley Davies Got You On My Mind (I Listen to the Night) Vidalias End of the Night (Melodyland) Uncle Tupelo Anodyne (Long Cut + 5 Live) Blue Mountain Epitaph (Dog Days) Rock Roll Summer Camp Sail Away Lady (Rock Roll Summer Camp) Trailer Bride Chatham Co. Militia (Trailer Bride) Jonathan Richman The Night Is Still Young (Im So Confused) == "If at first you don't succeed, try again. Then quit. No use being a damn fool about it." _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Jimmy Day
"R.W.Shamy Jr." wrote: Joe I personally want to say Thank You for the Jimmy Day piece. Also I would like to add I have never met anyone who left such an impression on me as you did when I was first introduced to you in Austin this past summer at the Arc of Austin benefit. Again, thank youRW Shamy WDVR-FM Thanks, RW. My pleasure. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: soul
Thanks to Joe for that great Jimmy Day piece. This is what music is all about, isnt it? Joe also wrote about Muscle Shoals: Yeah, I produce an artist from France who recorded there and told me stories. Another great source for good stories is Peter Guralnick's "Sweet Soul Music," which has some wonderful stuff about those old music backwaters like Muscle Shoals and Macon. Will Miner Denver, CO
Re: soul
Boy, when I hear the words "country" and "soul" in the same sentence, the first person that comes to mind is Buddy Miller. I guess over the last couple years his albums have stayed in my favorites as long as anyones. Tasty! Ah yes, another fine example. Although one I'll suggest doesn't quite work as well as I'd hope is what I've heard of Jim Lauderdale's work. A wonderful voice and the boy's got plenty of twang 'n soul in him. So how come I find it all mostly dull? Neal Weiss
RE: soul
All this re:soul business has jogged my memory about something - postcarders who own a copy of "On Golden Smog" may care to look at the hand-drawn cover, theres a sign above a barroom door that reads "Tonight: Resoul Hawkrun". As you can see, I have too much time on my hands. Junior Walker -Original Message- From: Ph. Barnard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 29 January 1999 5:25 To: passenger side Subject: Re: soul Although Stax-Volt and Al Green ultimately rule the roost, as far as I'm concerned, that early Muscle Shoals stuff is right up there with it. Up until Barry Beckett and the other Muscle Shoals session guys had their falling out with Rick Hall (Fame Studios), that unit could go head-to-head with the Memphis boys. Not only the Arthur Alexander tracks someone mentioned earlier today, but lots of others by Aretha, Otis, Wilson Pickett, Clarence Carter, etc. If you ever want to hear some good Muscle Shoals gossip, drop by Fame the next time you're driving through northern Alabama (assuming you have occasion to drive through northern Alabama...). Rick Hall's wife still works the front desk at the studio, and she can dish dirt with the best of them!!! g. Neal also mentions: Ah yes, another fine example. Although one I'll suggest doesn't quite work as well as I'd hope is what I've heard of Jim Lauderdale's work. A wonderful voice and the boy's got plenty of twang 'n soul in him. So how come I find it all mostly dull? Sadly (sort of?), I have to agree. I respect Lauderdale, he's worked with a lot of great people, etc., but his own stuff just never moves me. Oh well. --junior
RE: HNC
OK, so these are not traditional ways of categorizing things, but I'm kind of confused on just what the boundaries are or why they are important, although they clearly are. If you're confused on what they are and why they're important, maybe you shouldn't be spending time plotting them, then. I kind of take comments about "denatured" country music and a description of one kind of what is generally accepted as country music as "soft and 70s rock crap" as leaning in the direction of drawing boundaries. But unless the "70s" part of that phrase is purely objective description - rock music made between 1970 and 1979 - then by golly, a difference of opinion regarding what kind of rock is better than what other kind is the, or at least a critical part of, the underlying point. And calling Owens rock and late 60s Rolling Stones country is just a Humpty Dumpty way of muddying the waters. there's a good deal more fiddle and steel guitar to be heard from the mainstream than from the alt.country side. Well I can't engage this claim without seeing a lineup of the teams and the exact criteria by which the players are placed in column A or column B. Column A(=bands w/fiddle and/or steel) Column B (bands w/o fiddle and/or steel) mainstream country acts,alt.country acts, e.g., Garth Brooks e.g., Bottlerockets Always glad to help clear things up. Of course, there is the occasional steel-carrying alt.country act, and there are some mainstream acts that don't carry one, but all in all that's a reasonably accurate map. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: soul
On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the down side of (fusing country and soul) means twangless groove rock with an acoustic guitar. In fact, the more I thought about it, the more it seems like the country-soul equation gone awry equals AAA in general. Ouch! But I must agree. AAA, or the worst of it anyway, takes elements of soul, rock and country-folk and then blends it all into a sort of bland porridge test marketed to dentists receptionists and hair salon clerks, carefully removing any of the grittier or more alarming aspects of the genres plundered. Remember, AAA radio consultants *will* be among the first up against the wall when the revolution comes. Che Kip
Re: Barry and the Remains (Boston content)
Hi Jon - Thanks for posting the article about my friend Barry Tashian. I don't know if I would classify The Remains as punk (but what do I know?). The article didn't mention Barry's nine years (80-89) with Emmylou Harris (The Hot Band). Or his recent work with his wife, Holly (bluegrass duo). Barry and The Remains did their first reunion show this past September 23rd in Leon, Spain and another show at Coney Island High in October. Barry wrote a book about his experiences with The Beatles (The Remains toured with them in 1966). The book is called Ticket to Ride and can be bought though his web site along with The Remains cd's. For all those in the NY area - Another friend of mine, Dale Watson will be at the Rodeo Bar in NYC on April 1st. Dale is also scheduled 3-31 at the Tin Angel in Philly. On 3-2 Dale will be in Richmond at Moondance. Also, Barry and Holly Tashian will be performing at the Levitt Pavilion in Westport, CT (their hometown) on June 25th. (203) 226-7600. Back to lurking P.S. Buddy, 12 days 'till Willie
Re: soul
If you ever want to hear some good Muscle Shoals gossip, drop by Fame the next time you're driving through northern Alabama (assuming you have occasion to drive through northern Alabama...). Rick Hall's wife still works the front desk at the studio, and she can dish dirt with the best of them!!! g. I did just that a few years ago on a trip to Northern Miss. to visit relatives and sure enough, at the front desk, the lovely wife and Rick in the studio with Shenandoah. I was able to weasel into the studio for an hour and watch Rick work. The place is filled with Gold records wall to wall and just perusing the history on the walls is great fun, Mike Hays np:Elena Skye NOW ONLINE, www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry netcast 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays www.MikeHays.RealCountry.net For the best country artist web hosting, www.RealCountry.net
RE: Barry and the Remains (Boston content)
I don't know if I would classify The Remains as punk (but what do I know?). Yeah, that baffled me, too. What would prompt such a description (not a rhetorical question)? Or his recent work with his wife, Holly (bluegrass duo). Well, er, bluegrass harmonies, and certainly a lot of songs that are amenable to bluegrass treatments, but acoustic country might be a better description. Good stuff, no matter what you call it. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
RE: Barry and the Remains (Boston content)
Hi Jon - I read the article to a good friend of Barry's (In fact, he played bass with Barry in The Schemers - pre-Remains). His thought is the writer probably is too young to remember the Remains. He always considered the Remains (and the Schemers) a "garage" band. He wasn't sure when punk was first coined but thought it post-dated the Remains. Will be a great show back to lurking.. Kat
