RE: [OT] MS certs - I'm on the way

[Jeff Fisher]

MCAD using C# Windows based then C#-XML

Quoting Stephen the Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
> Congratulations!
>
> What line are you going to go for in the MCAD?
>
>
> Stephen Russell
> DBA / .Net Developer
>
> Memphis TN 38115
> 901.246-0159
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RE: [OT] Born Baptist

[john harvey]

Well, I got the first part done this year, but I don't have any friends -
only acquaintances (until the elk runs out)

John

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john harvey <> wrote:
> I lak cayatfish, specially elk cayatfish!

Fisrt you have to kill one, then share with friends.  ;->


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RE: [OT] Born Baptist

[Stephen the Cook]

john harvey <> wrote:
> I lak cayatfish, specially elk cayatfish!

Fisrt you have to kill one, then share with friends.  ;->


Stephen Russell
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RE: [OT] MS certs - I'm on the way

[Stephen the Cook]

Jeff <> wrote:
> Some months ago, I asked the group about Microsoft certifications -
> your response was the catalyst that I needed. Even though I've been
> studying for over a year, I just didn't schedule an exam, didn't get
> serious enough with it. But I took one [70-229 - Designing and
> Implementing Database with MS SQL 2000 Enterprise - didn't start with
> an easy one!], passed and received my Welcome Kit last week.
> I'm patting myself on the back in front of all of you all but thanks
> again for the extra motivation. 
> 
> Now I'm working on two more to complete my MCAD!
 
Congratulations!  

What line are you going to go for in the MCAD?  


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RE: [OT] Born Baptist

[john harvey]

I lak cayatfish, specially elk cayatfish!

John 

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Born Baptist


Each Friday night after work, Bubba would fire up his outdoor grill and cook
a venison steak. But, all of Bubba's neighbors were CatholicAnd since it
was Lent, they were forbidden from eating meat on Friday. 

The delicious aroma from the grilled venison steaks was causing such a
problem for the Catholic faithful that they finally talked to their priest. 

The Priest came to visit Bubba, and suggested that he become a Catholic.
After several classes and much study, Bubba attended Mass.and as the
priest sprinkled holy water over him, he said, "You were born a Baptist, and
raised a Baptist, but now you are a Catholic." 

Bubba's neighbors were greatly relieved, until Friday night arrived, and the
wonderful aroma of 
grilled venison filled the neighborhood. 

The Priest was called immediately by the neighbors, and, as he rushed into
Bubba's yard, clutching a rosary and prepared to scold him, he stopped and
watched in amazement. 

There stood Bubba, clutching a small bottle of holy water which he carefully
sprinkled over the 
grilling meat and chanting: You wuz born a deer, you wuz raised a deer, but
now you a catfish. 

Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer
 
Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided
missiles and misguided men." 
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ 

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Re: @M Picture Clause in Textbox

[MB Software Solutions]

Philip Borkholder wrote:
> Hello all,
> is there a way to have a selection in a text box similar to like we can 
> with the get clause?
>
> Sample:
> lc_file= "Current"
>  @ 2, 10 GET lc_file ;
>  PICTURE "@M Current, History, Both   "
>
> Can we use the @M in a form's text box that will allow us to press the 
> space bar and choose only between the 3 selections in the @M list ?
>   

I'm in VFP as of version 5 for UIs, so I can't answer you exactly, but I 
wonderwhy not just use a dropdown listbox?

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[OT] Born Baptist

[Stephen Russell]

Born Baptist


Each Friday night after work, Bubba would fire up his outdoor grill and cook
a venison steak. But, all of Bubba's neighbors were CatholicAnd since it
was Lent, they were forbidden from eating meat on Friday. 

The delicious aroma from the grilled venison steaks was causing such a
problem for the Catholic faithful that they finally talked to their priest. 

The Priest came to visit Bubba, and suggested that he become a Catholic.
After several classes and much study, Bubba attended Mass.and as the
priest sprinkled holy water over him, he said, "You were born a Baptist, and
raised a Baptist, but now you are a Catholic." 

Bubba's neighbors were greatly relieved, until Friday night arrived, and the
wonderful aroma of 
grilled venison filled the neighborhood. 

The Priest was called immediately by the neighbors, and, as he rushed into
Bubba's yard, clutching a rosary and prepared to scold him, he stopped and
watched in amazement. 

There stood Bubba, clutching a small bottle of holy water which he carefully
sprinkled over the 
grilling meat and chanting: You wuz born a deer, you wuz raised a deer, but
now you a catfish. 

Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer
 
Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided
missiles and misguided men." 
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ 

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@M Picture Clause in Textbox

[Philip Borkholder]

Hello all,
is there a way to have a selection in a text box similar to like we can 
with the get clause?

Sample:
lc_file= "Current"
  @ 2, 10 GET lc_file ;
  PICTURE "@M Current, History, Both   "

Can we use the @M in a form's text box that will allow us to press the 
space bar and choose only between the 3 selections in the @M list ?

Thanks,

Philip


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@M Picture Clause in Textbox

[Philip Borkholder]

Hello all,
is there a way to have a selection in a text box similar to like we can 
with the get clause?

Sample:
lc_file= "Current"
 @ 2, 10 GET lc_file ;
 PICTURE "@M Current, History, Both   "

Can we use the @M in a form's text box that will allow us to press the 
space bar and choose only between the 3 selections in the @M list ?

Thanks,

Philip


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Re: MSDN Path to Product Key?

[Grigore Dolghin]

InList() would be a nicer approach, unless they don't have more than
25 of your aliases :)

On 1/15/07, Mike yearwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey Will 
>
> > They've got my last name _misspelled_!!
> >
> > So it'd have to be
> >
> > if caller = "Hentzen"
> >   or caller = "Henten"
> >   or caller = "Henzen"
> >   or caller = "Hertzen"
> >   or caller = "Hanson"
> >   or caller = "Henson" && that muppet guy?
> >   or caller = "Hansin"
> >   or caller = "Hertzenwerke"
> >   or 
>
> ROFL! That reminds me of Bugs Bunny in the episode with Hansel, Gretel
> and the Witch when he was saying "Hansel? Hansel?"
>
>
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[OT] End the unjust Jewish occupation of Muslim lands

[Michael Madigan]

http://protestwarrior.com/new_signs.php?sign=22

Saddam - Hung for the Holidays
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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Ricardo Aráoz]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> But the list is long of who Iraq did attack, gas, promoted terrorism against, 
> torture,...
> 

Do you really think that list is as long as the list of who did USA
'attack, gas, promoted terrorism against, torture,...'?


> - Original Message -
> From: Ricardo_Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: ProFox Email List 
> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:13:43 -0300
> Subject: Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan
> 
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>>> Lets see.
>>>
>>> Israel has never attacked us.  
>>>
>> Neither did Iraq
>>
>>


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Re: [OT] Thought for the Day

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> "Where are the white women at?"
> -  Martin Luther King
> 

"Mike is plain dumb"
- Ricardo Araoz


> 
> 
> --- Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>  "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent
>> about things that  
>> matter"
>>  - the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.
>>
>> -- Ed Leafe
>> -- http://leafe.com
>> -- http://dabodev.com
>>
>>
>>
>>


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Re: [OT] No, Bush is the new Keating

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> Paul Krugman is a vicious anti-American.  His writings
> have been thoroughly discredited.  
> 

Hey Mike! I've come to understand from your postings that US is full of
'anti-Americans' (I guess you meant 'anti-US'), so then there's no
wonder there are so many anti-US people outside your borders. hahaha

> 
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> based on what I'm reading here you would advocate
>> giving up before you even got started
>>
>> granted its a fine line but most people give up when
>> they're nearly there
>>
>> kind of like the old saying
>> its allways darkest before the dawn
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>> From:  Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subj:  [OT] No, Bush is the new Keating
>> Date:  Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:34 am
>> Size:  1K
>> To:  ProFox Mailing List 
>>
>>
> http://welcome-to-pottersville.blogspot.com/2007/01/paul-krugman-
>> texas-strategy
>> ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/yzdwkw )
>>
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> - - - - - - - - -
>> Hundreds of news articles and opinion pieces have
>> described President  
>> Bush’s decision to escalate the Iraq war as a “Hail
>> Mary pass.”
>>
>> But that’s the wrong metaphor.
>>
>> Mr. Bush isn’t Roger Staubach, trying to pull out a
>> win for the  
>> Dallas Cowboys. He’s Charles Keating, using other
>> people’s money to  
>> keep Lincoln Savings going long after it should have
>> been shut down —  
>> and squandering the life savings of thousands of
>> investors, not to  
>> mention billions in taxpayer dollars, along the way.
>>
>> The parallel is actually quite exact. During the
>> savings and loan  
>> scandal of the 1980s, people like Mr. Keating kept
>> failed banks going  
>> by faking financial success. Mr. Bush has kept a
>> failed war going by  
>> faking military success.
>>
>> The “surge” is just another stalling tactic,
>> designed to buy more time.
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> - - - - - - - - -
>>
>> -- Ed Leafe
>> -- http://leafe.com
>> -- http://dabodev.com
>>


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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[jeff]

But the list is long of who Iraq did attack, gas, promoted terrorism against, 
torture,...

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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:13:43 -0300
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> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > Lets see.
> > 
> > Israel has never attacked us.  
> > 
> 
> Neither did Iraq
> 
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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> Lets see.
> 
> Israel has never attacked us.  
> 

Neither did Iraq

> 
> --- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> What is it that makes it wrong to hate Jews, but
>> correct to hate Islamic 
>> Arabs of the Muslim religion or anyone else for that
>> matter.  Hitler 
>> hated (eg feared) the Jewish race.  Hate sentiments
>> today are being 
>> driven by propaganda against Islamic Arabs of ME
>> decent.  Compare and 
>> contrast what happened to the Jewish people under
>> Hitler's Nazi regime, 
>> and what is happening today against people of the ME
>> who are of Islamic 
>> Arab decent under the Neoconservative leader of the
>> US.
>>
>> 1)  Hitler cames to power using propaganda that the
>> Jewish people were 
>> the root of all Germany's problems.
>> 2)  When Hitler gained enough power, he required
>> that all Jewish people 
>> identify themselves by wearing a big, bright, yellow
>> star of David on 
>> their clothing.  This made it easy to identify the
>> Jewish people for 
>> discrimination and shunning.
>> 3)  Hitler enacted laws that divested ownership and
>> rights to property 
>> in the hand of the Jewish people.
>> 4)  Hitler physically separated the Jewish people;
>> isolating them in 
>> designated ghetto areas.  The Jewish people were
>> stripped of all their 
>> property and driven into the ghettos with nothing
>> more than the clothes 
>> on their backs.
>> 5)  Last came the "Final Solution"; the
>> extermination of the Jewish 
>> people from the face of the earth.
>>
>> I don't think Hitler originally planned an
>> extermination of all Jews.  
>> In reaching the final solution, Hitler, and the
>> German people, went 
>> through a progression of baby steps; each step
>> lending itself to the 
>> next, as Hitler's Germany marched towards the final
>> solution.  Anyone 
>> examining the progression of step should have
>> realized early on that the 
>> final solutions was the destination of Hitler's
>> anti-semitic ship, even 
>> if Hitler, and the German people, did not at the
>> time know they were on 
>> a course to a final solution.  The ship's rudder and
>> sails had been set, 
>> and nothing shot of a conscience change in course
>> could have prevented 
>> the Holocaust.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> LelandJ
>>
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't met on Israeli hater that wasn't a Jew
>>> Hater.  Holocaust deniers included.
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>>  
>>>
 Ricardo,

 Haven't you worked out yet that in Michaels mind,
>> if
 you criticize anything to do with Israel you are a
 Jew Hater. Likewise were you to criticize GWB's
>> tie
 then you'd be a traitor, were you to be American
 Citizen. If you criticicized and are not a US
 citizen then you're a terrorist.

 ::a

 PS He doesn't know the definition of liberal
>> either.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Ricardo Aráoz
 Sent: 15 January 2007 09:16
 To: ProFox Email List
 Subject: Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to
 offer own plan

 Michael Madigan wrote:


> Of course the dirty Arabs attacked Israel on a
>  
>
 Jewish


> holy day.  But of course a Jew-hater like you
>  
>
 would


> conveniently forget that.
>
>  
>
 Did you mean to say Israeli-hater? Can you
>> perceive
 the difference?



> --- Bill Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
> It wouldn't matter to us much if they didn't
>  
>
>> control a commodity
>> that
>>
>>
> the whole world has developed a dependence
>> on.
> Oil When OPEC decided to flex their muscle in
>  
>
>> the mid 70's, it sent
>> shock 
>>
>>
> waves through out the entire world
>  
>
 economically


>> speaking. Double 
>>
>>
> digit inflation, double digit unemployment
>> and
>  
>
>> the deepest economic
>>
>>
>>
> problems that the U.S. had faced since the
>  
>
>> great depression. 
>>
>>
 Yup, that really sucked.



>>> You seem to forget that was due to the fact
>> that
>>>  
>>>
>> USA broke 
>>
>>
>>> the Bretton Woods agreement which stated that
>>>  
>>>
>> dollar was to 
>>
>>
>>> be tied to gold reserves in USA. The dollar
>>>  
>>>
>> stopped being 
>>
>>
>>> backed by gold, it started devaluating and the
>>>  
>>>
>> OPEC took action.
>>

Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
> Its funny how the new show 24 parallels what I see happening in some aspects
> of our lives.
> 
> Don't know how many saw it last night, but the attitude was "That can't
> happen here"
> Yep it can.
> 
> I remember walking down an alley in the late 70's looking for a bar in
> alexandria egypt..
> A little ole guy come up missing an arm and knife cuts on his face and said
> you don't belong here.
> 
> Folks, these people are different then us and they don't have the same
> beliefs that we do and if you think that china or russia or india or any of
> these countries have our best interests at heart, then you're a fool.
> 

Don't know about Egyptians, but if the marines killed my family rest
assured that no matter how much money you poured into the country, no
matter how many acts of contrition you made, I would be seeking for
revenge forever. Is that different from what you'd do? If some foreign
army would kill your family, would you dismiss it as 'collateral
damage'? Would you trade money for the life of your family?
If you do, then the answer is yes, we are much different.

> I've worked with some good people from india and russia so don't take it
> wrong as I mean its their politicians I don't trust, nor do I trust our
> politiicans either.. 
> 
> 
> Virgil Bierschwale
> http://www.virgilslist.com
> http://www.tccutlery.com
> http://www.bierschwale.com
> http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Michael Madigan
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:34 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan
> 
> Based on past performance, what are the odds that Ed is right about it?
> Zero?  
> 
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> let's hope you're right and I'm wrong
>> -Original Message-
>>
>> From:  Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subj:  Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan
>> Date:  Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:14 am
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>>
>> On Jan 15, 2007, at 9:50 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> you don't know that for a fact
>>  Two words: Mission Accomplished.
>>
>>> I believe its just a matter of time before new
>> york is hit again
>>
>>  Hey, I believe that it's just a matter of time until the Packers win
> 
>> the Super Bowl.
>>
>>  See, I can throw out irrelevant predictions, too.
>>


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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> Kennedy stared the bastards in the eye and the
> Russians backed down.
> 
> That's what we have to do with the rag heads.
> 

Cool. So please, please go live in the twin towers when they rebuild
them. We'll see what the 'rag heads' have to do with you.

> 
> 
> 
> --- Bill Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
 We're at war today
>>> No. The war ended almost 4 years ago. We are an 
>>> occupying army now.
>>
>> We've got our finger stuck in Muslim/Arab eyes, and
>> we're one more
>> serious attack away from a far deeper appreciation
>> of what's been
>> wrought on us by the warmongers occupying our
>> capital and information
>> supply.
>>
>> We don't understand or respect our enemy. Despite
>> all the lessons of
>> history, we've been led to believe that all we have
>> to do is send in the
>> Marines and our enemies will cower under our "shock
>> and awe". What
>> actually happened on the way to that throne is
>> already history; what
>> happens next is anyone's guess, but by now we should
>> already know it's
>> not going to be the grand and glorious
>> victory-over-evil bill of goods
>> we've been sold on.
>>
>> Decades ago, we went through the Cuban missile
>> crisis, and a brush with
>> disaster the likes of which we still can't imagine,
>> yet with that
>> experience solidly under our belt, we have not taken
>> the steps necessary
>> to prevent that possibility from ever happening
>> again - instead we did
>> the opposite: more weapons, more bombs, more shock
>> and awe - and more
>> belligerence.
>>
>> What will it take for us to finally learn that war
>> in the nuclear age is
>> not an option? Why can't we grasp a simple truth:
>> that when we disagree
>> with the rulers of another country, the solution
>> isn't to kill or starve
>> all the people in that country, who were just
>> victims themselves, but to
>> use national and international diplomacy to deal
>> with the errant ruler?
>> We are aware that those "bunker-busters" being
>> readied for Iran are
>> actually nuclear weapons, right?
>>
>> I know - these are all statements of the obvious,
>> and shouldn't even
>> have to be said, but here we are today, closer to
>> nightmare scenarios at
>> home (Big Brother) and abroad (war) then we could
>> have imagined not too
>> many years ago. The scariest part isn't what's
>> happening already, but
>> what is very likely to happen next if we don't do
>> what we have to do.
>> We, the American people, didn't bring this on, it
>> was done for us, by
>> that gang and their cohorts. They're not telling us
>> this, but I'll say
>> it: we need to choose between their attitude and
>> their direction - and
>> the principles we want to live by. 
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>> -- Ed Leafe
>>
>>


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RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Virgil Bierschwale]

Possibly, but don't forget that there are powerful people financing their
efforts. 


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Leland Jackson
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 1:59 PM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

Neither has Iraq ever attacked the US.  We were attacked by a small group of
Terrorist/Pirate on 9/11.  The attackers pledged alliance to no country, nor
any flag, other than to the flag of Al Qauda's  Jolly Roger's skill and
bones.The attackers of 9/11 were not of a single race; although, they
we likely all of the same Islamic Sunni Muslim religion.

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:

>Lets see.
>
>Israel has never attacked us.  
>
>
>--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>What is it that makes it wrong to hate Jews, but correct to hate 
>>Islamic Arabs of the Muslim religion or anyone else for that matter.  
>>Hitler hated (eg feared) the Jewish race.  Hate sentiments today are 
>>being driven by propaganda against Islamic Arabs of ME decent.  
>>Compare and contrast what happened to the Jewish people under Hitler's 
>>Nazi regime, and what is happening today against people of the ME who 
>>are of Islamic Arab decent under the Neoconservative leader of the US.
>>
>>1)  Hitler cames to power using propaganda that the Jewish people were 
>>the root of all Germany's problems.
>>2)  When Hitler gained enough power, he required that all Jewish 
>>people identify themselves by wearing a big, bright, yellow star of 
>>David on their clothing.  This made it easy to identify the Jewish 
>>people for discrimination and shunning.
>>3)  Hitler enacted laws that divested ownership and rights to property 
>>in the hand of the Jewish people.
>>4)  Hitler physically separated the Jewish people; isolating them in 
>>designated ghetto areas.  The Jewish people were stripped of all their 
>>property and driven into the ghettos with nothing more than the 
>>clothes on their backs.
>>5)  Last came the "Final Solution"; the extermination of the Jewish 
>>people from the face of the earth.
>>
>>I don't think Hitler originally planned an extermination of all Jews.
>>In reaching the final solution, Hitler, and the German people, went 
>>through a progression of baby steps; each step lending itself to the 
>>next, as Hitler's Germany marched towards the final solution.  Anyone 
>>examining the progression of step should have realized early on that 
>>the final solutions was the destination of Hitler's anti-semitic ship, 
>>even if Hitler, and the German people, did not at the time know they 
>>were on a course to a final solution.  The ship's rudder and sails had 
>>been set, and nothing shot of a conscience change in course could have 
>>prevented the Holocaust.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>LelandJ
>>
>>Michael Madigan wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I haven't met on Israeli hater that wasn't a Jew Hater.  Holocaust 
>>>deniers included.
>>>
>>>
>>>--- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>  
>>>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
Ricardo,

Haven't you worked out yet that in Michaels mind,


>>if
>>
>>
you criticize anything to do with Israel you are a Jew Hater. 
Likewise were you to criticize GWB's


>>tie
>>
>>
then you'd be a traitor, were you to be American Citizen. If you 
criticicized and are not a US citizen then you're a terrorist.

::a

PS He doesn't know the definition of liberal


>>either.
>>
>>
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz
Sent: 15 January 2007 09:16
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

Michael Madigan wrote:
   



>Of course the dirty Arabs attacked Israel on a
> 
>
>  
>
Jewish
   



>holy day.  But of course a Jew-hater like you
> 
>
>  
>
would
   



>conveniently forget that.
>
> 
>
>  
>
Did you mean to say Israeli-hater? Can you


>>perceive
>>
>>
the difference?

   



>--- Bill Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
>
>  
>
>It wouldn't matter to us much if they didn't
> 
>
>  
>
>>control a commodity
>>that
>>   
>>
>>
>>
>the whole world has developed a dependence
>  
>
>>on.
>>
>>
>Oil When OPEC decided to flex their muscle in
> 
>>>

RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Virgil Bierschwale]

Just as bad in new york which is my point.
People are different based upon the culture that they were raised in.

Some such as myself have been exposed to a lot more by travelling, working,
studying and they have learned to adapt..

But for us or the muslim extremists to think that we can change a whole race
of people is the height of stupidity. 


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Ed Leafe
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 1:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

On Jan 15, 2007, at 1:39 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote:

> I remember walking down an alley in the late 70's looking for a bar in 
> alexandria egypt..
> A little ole guy come up missing an arm and knife cuts on his face and 
> said you don't belong here.

Sounds like some of the locals in Mississippi or Alabama, who aren't
exactly known for their hospitality and openness to people from other parts
of the country, especially folks from up north, or those whose ethnic
heritage doesn't match theirs. Not much difference between them and your
Egyptian friend.

-- Ed Leafe
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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Leland Jackson]

Below is a definition of "Islam". Based on my understanding of the 
Bible, as God's word to Christians, and all the divergence it has 
created among the many Christian branches and denominations, I do not 
understand how Islam in all of its divergence could unit as a group of 
terrorist against the US. Could you explain how this is possible, as the 
term "Islam" is very broad and encompasses many different 
interpretations of the Qur'an and many different beliefs. Could you be 
specific as to the exact branch within Islam that is the threat to the US:

#--

Definition of Islam: Major world religion founded by Muhammad 
 in Arabia in the early 7th 
century AD. The Arabic word /islam/ means “submission” — specifically, 
submission to the will of the one God, called Allah 
 in Arabic. Islam is a strictly 
monotheistic religion, and its adherents, called Muslims, regard the 
Prophet Muhammad as the last and most perfect of God's messengers, who 
include Adam , Abraham 
, Moses 
, Jesus 
, and others. The sacred 
scripture of Islam is the Qur'_a_n 
, which contains God's revelations 
to Muhammad. The sayings and deeds of the Prophet recounted in the sunna 
 are also 
an important source of belief and practice in Islam. The religious 
obligations of all Muslims are summed up in the Five Pillars of Islam, 
which include belief in God and his Prophet and obligations of prayer, 
charity, pilgrimage, and fasting. The fundamental concept in Islam is 
the Shar_i_'_a_h , or Law, which 
embraces the total way of life commanded by God. Observant Muslims pray 
five times a day and join in community worship on Fridays at the mosque 
, where worship is led by an imam 
. Every believer is required to make 
a pilgrimage to Mecca , the holiest 
city, at least once in a lifetime, barring poverty or physical 
incapacity. The month of Ramadan  
is set aside for fasting. Alcohol and pork are always forbidden, as are 
gambling, usury, fraud, slander, and the making of images. In addition 
to celebrating the breaking of the fast of Ramadan, Muslims celebrate 
Muhammad's birthday (/see/ /mawlid 
/) and his 
ascension into heaven (/see/ /mi'r_a_j 
/). The '_I_d al-A_d__h__a_ 
festival inaugurates the season of pilgrimage to Mecca. Muslims are 
enjoined to defend Islam against unbelievers through jihad 
. Divisions occurred early in Islam, 
brought about by disputes over the succession to the caliphate (/see/ 
caliph ). About 90% of Muslims 
belong to the Sunnite  branch. The 
Sh_i_'ite s broke away in the 7th 
century and later gave rise to other sects, including the Ism_a_'_i_l_i_ 
s. Another significant element in 
Islam is the mysticism known as Sufism 
. Since the 19th century the 
concept of the Islamic community has inspired Muslim peoples to cast off 
Western colonial rule, and in the late 20th century fundamentalist 
movements (/see/ Islamic fundamentalism 
) threatened or 
toppled a number of secular Middle Eastern governments. In the early 
21st century, there were more than 1.2 billion Muslims in the world.

#--

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:

>So has Islam.
>
>Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Actually, German declared war on 
>the U.S.:
>
>http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/germany-declares.htm
>
>The first Gulf war was not without consequence, but what does this all 
>have to do with the attack of 9/11 by a group of terrorist?
>
>http://www.historyguy.com/GulfWar.html
>
>Regards,
>
>LelandJ
>
>Michael Madigan wrote:
>
>  
>
>>No,
>>
>>Iraq invaded Kuwait, a US Ally. Germany never
>>attacked us either.
>>
>>
>>--- Leland Jackson wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>So, Iraq has never attacked the US, but we have
>>>attacked Iraq at least 
>>>twice. Is that correct?
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>LelandJ
>>>
>>>
>>>Michael Madigan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
We were still at war from their 1991 invasion of
Kuwait.


--- Leland Jackson wrote:







>Neither has Iraq ever attacked the US. We were
>>>

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=>  The problem is the server originating the message. I 
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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Michael Madigan]

So has Islam.

Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Actually, German declared war on the 
U.S.:

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/germany-declares.htm

The first Gulf war was not without consequence, but what does this all 
have to do with the attack of 9/11 by a group of terrorist?

http://www.historyguy.com/GulfWar.html

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:

>No,
>
>Iraq invaded Kuwait, a US Ally. Germany never
>attacked us either.
>
>
>--- Leland Jackson wrote:
>
> 
>
>>So, Iraq has never attacked the US, but we have
>>attacked Iraq at least 
>>twice. Is that correct?
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>LelandJ
>>
>>
>>Michael Madigan wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>>We were still at war from their 1991 invasion of
>>>Kuwait.
>>>
>>>
>>>--- Leland Jackson wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
Neither has Iraq ever attacked the US. We were
attacked by a small 
group of Terrorist/Pirate on 9/11. The attackers
pledged alliance to no 
country, nor any flag, other than to the flag of
 

>>Al
>> 
>>
Qauda's Jolly 
Roger's skill and bones. The attackers of
 

>>9/11
>> 
>>
were not of a 
single race; although, they we likely all of the
same Islamic Sunni 
Muslim religion.

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:

 

 

>Lets see.
>
>Israel has never attacked us. 
>
>
>--- Leland Jackson 
> 
>
>>wrote:
>> 
>>
>
> 
>
> 
>
>>What is it that makes it wrong to hate Jews, but
>>correct to hate Islamic 
>>Arabs of the Muslim religion or anyone else for
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
that
 

 

>>matter. Hitler 
>>hated (eg feared) the Jewish race. Hate
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
sentiments
 

 

>>today are being 
>>driven by propaganda against Islamic Arabs of ME
>>decent. Compare and 
>>contrast what happened to the Jewish people
>> 
>>
>>under
>> 
>>
>>Hitler's Nazi regime, 
>>and what is happening today against people of
>> 
>>
>>the
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
ME
 

 

>>who are of Islamic 
>>Arab decent under the Neoconservative leader of
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
the
 

 

>>US.
>>
>>1) Hitler cames to power using propaganda that
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
the
 

 

>>Jewish people were 
>>the root of all Germany's problems.
>>2) When Hitler gained enough power, he required
>>that all Jewish people 
>>identify themselves by wearing a big, bright,
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
yellow
 

 

>>star of David on 
>>their clothing. This made it easy to identify
>> 
>>
>>the
>> 
>>
>>Jewish people for 
>>discrimination and shunning.
>>3) Hitler enacted laws that divested ownership
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
and
 

 

>>rights to property 
>>in the hand of the Jewish people.
>>4) Hitler physically separated the Jewish
>> 
>>
>>people;
>> 
>>
>>isolating them in 
>>designated ghetto areas. The Jewish people were
>>stripped of all their 
>>property and driven into the ghettos with
>> 
>>
>>nothing
>> 
>>
>>more than the clothes 
>>on their backs.
>>5) Last came the "Final Solution"; the
>>extermination of the Jewish 
>>people from the face of the earth.
>>
>>I don't think Hitler originally planned an
>>extermination of all Jews. 
>>In reaching the final solution, Hitler, and the
>>German people, went 
>>through a progression of baby steps; each step
>>lending itself to the 
>>next, as Hitler's Germany marched towards the
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
final
 

 

>>solution. Anyone 
>>examining the progression of step should have
>>realized early on that the 
>>final solutions was the destination of Hitler's
>>anti-semitic ship, even 
>>if Hitler, and the German people, did not at the
>>time know they were on 
>>a course to a final solution. The ship's rudder
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
and
 

 

>>sails had been set, 
>>and nothing shot of a conscience change in
>> 
>>
>>course
>> 
>>
>>could have prevented 
>>the Holocaust.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>LelandJ
>>
>>Michael Madigan wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>>I haven't met on Israeli hater that wasn't a
>>> 
>>>
>>Jew
>> 
>>
>>>Hater. Holocaust deniers included.
>>>
>>>
>>>--- Adam Buckland 
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>wrote:
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
Ricardo,

Haven't you worked out yet that in Michaels
 

 

mind,
 
>>

Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Leland Jackson]

Actually, German declared war on the U.S.:

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/germany-declares.htm

The first Gulf war was not without consequence, but what does this all 
have to do with the attack of 9/11 by a group of terrorist?

http://www.historyguy.com/GulfWar.html

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:

>No,
>
>Iraq invaded Kuwait, a US Ally.  Germany never
>attacked us either.
>
>
>--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>So, Iraq has never attacked the US, but we have
>>attacked Iraq at least 
>>twice.  Is that correct?
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>LelandJ
>>
>>
>>Michael Madigan wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>We were still at war from their 1991 invasion of
>>>Kuwait.
>>>
>>>
>>>--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
Neither has Iraq ever attacked the US.  We were
attacked by a small 
group of Terrorist/Pirate on 9/11.  The attackers
pledged alliance to no 
country, nor any flag, other than to the flag of


>>Al
>>
>>
Qauda's  Jolly 
Roger's skill and bones.The attackers of


>>9/11
>>
>>
were not of a 
single race; although, they we likely all of the
same Islamic Sunni 
Muslim religion.

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:

   



>Lets see.
>
>Israel has never attacked us.  
>
>
>--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  
>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>
> 
>
>  
>
>>What is it that makes it wrong to hate Jews, but
>>correct to hate Islamic 
>>Arabs of the Muslim religion or anyone else for
>>   
>>
>>
>>
that
   



>>matter.  Hitler 
>>hated (eg feared) the Jewish race.  Hate
>>   
>>
>>
>>
sentiments
   



>>today are being 
>>driven by propaganda against Islamic Arabs of ME
>>decent.  Compare and 
>>contrast what happened to the Jewish people
>>
>>
>>under
>>
>>
>>Hitler's Nazi regime, 
>>and what is happening today against people of
>>
>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>   
>>
>>
>>
ME
   



>>who are of Islamic 
>>Arab decent under the Neoconservative leader of
>>   
>>
>>
>>
the
   



>>US.
>>
>>1)  Hitler cames to power using propaganda that
>>   
>>
>>
>>
the
   



>>Jewish people were 
>>the root of all Germany's problems.
>>2)  When Hitler gained enough power, he required
>>that all Jewish people 
>>identify themselves by wearing a big, bright,
>>   
>>
>>
>>
yellow
   



>>star of David on 
>>their clothing.  This made it easy to identify
>>
>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>Jewish people for 
>>discrimination and shunning.
>>3)  Hitler enacted laws that divested ownership
>>   
>>
>>
>>
and
   



>>rights to property 
>>in the hand of the Jewish people.
>>4)  Hitler physically separated the Jewish
>>
>>
>>people;
>>
>>
>>isolating them in 
>>designated ghetto areas.  The Jewish people were
>>stripped of all their 
>>property and driven into the ghettos with
>>
>>
>>nothing
>>
>>
>>more than the clothes 
>>on their backs.
>>5)  Last came the "Final Solution"; the
>>extermination of the Jewish 
>>people from the face of the earth.
>>
>>I don't think Hitler originally planned an
>>extermination of all Jews.  
>>In reaching the final solution, Hitler, and the
>>German people, went 
>>through a progression of baby steps; each step
>>lending itself to the 
>>next, as Hitler's Germany marched towards the
>>   
>>
>>
>>
final
   



>>solution.  Anyone 
>>examining the progression of step should have
>>realized early on that the 
>>final solutions was the destination of Hitler's
>>anti-semitic ship, even 
>>if Hitler, and the German people, did not at the
>>time know they were on 
>>a course to a final solution.  The ship's rudder
>>   
>>
>>
>>
and
   



>>sails had been set, 
>>and nothing shot of a conscience change in
>>
>>
>>course
>>
>>
>>could have prevented 
>>the Holocaust.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>LelandJ
>>
>>Michael Madigan wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>   
>>
>>
>>
>>>I haven't met on Israeli hater t

Re: Returned Messages From Profox

[Ed Leafe]

On Jan 15, 2007, at 3:25 PM, Hal Kaplan wrote:

> So Marge is a little behind in her work, eh?  Not a problem except  
> that emails such as this one is very similar to a rash of spam that  
> has been circulating recently.  IMHO, it's a counterproductive  
> message.

The problem is the server originating the message. I think that most  
bounced messages are counterproductive, too, in these days where spam  
outnumbers actual traffic by 10 to 1 or more.

-- Ed Leafe
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=>  I'm not sure, but if one of the subscriber's ISP 
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=> 
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=>

So Marge is a little behind in her work, eh?  Not a problem except that emails 
such as this one is very similar to a rash of spam that has been circulating 
recently.  IMHO, it's a counterproductive message.

B+
HALinNY


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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Michael Madigan]

No,

Iraq invaded Kuwait, a US Ally.  Germany never
attacked us either.


--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So, Iraq has never attacked the US, but we have
> attacked Iraq at least 
> twice.  Is that correct?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> 
> >We were still at war from their 1991 invasion of
> >Kuwait.
> >
> >
> >--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Neither has Iraq ever attacked the US.  We were
> >>attacked by a small 
> >>group of Terrorist/Pirate on 9/11.  The attackers
> >>pledged alliance to no 
> >>country, nor any flag, other than to the flag of
> Al
> >>Qauda's  Jolly 
> >>Roger's skill and bones.The attackers of
> 9/11
> >>were not of a 
> >>single race; although, they we likely all of the
> >>same Islamic Sunni 
> >>Muslim religion.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>LelandJ
> >>
> >>Michael Madigan wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Lets see.
> >>>
> >>>Israel has never attacked us.  
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> What is it that makes it wrong to hate Jews, but
> correct to hate Islamic 
> Arabs of the Muslim religion or anyone else for
> 
> 
> >>that
> >>
> >>
> matter.  Hitler 
> hated (eg feared) the Jewish race.  Hate
> 
> 
> >>sentiments
> >>
> >>
> today are being 
> driven by propaganda against Islamic Arabs of ME
> decent.  Compare and 
> contrast what happened to the Jewish people
> under
> Hitler's Nazi regime, 
> and what is happening today against people of
> the
> 
> 
> >>ME
> >>
> >>
> who are of Islamic 
> Arab decent under the Neoconservative leader of
> 
> 
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> US.
> 
> 1)  Hitler cames to power using propaganda that
> 
> 
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> Jewish people were 
> the root of all Germany's problems.
> 2)  When Hitler gained enough power, he required
> that all Jewish people 
> identify themselves by wearing a big, bright,
> 
> 
> >>yellow
> >>
> >>
> star of David on 
> their clothing.  This made it easy to identify
> the
> Jewish people for 
> discrimination and shunning.
> 3)  Hitler enacted laws that divested ownership
> 
> 
> >>and
> >>
> >>
> rights to property 
> in the hand of the Jewish people.
> 4)  Hitler physically separated the Jewish
> people;
> isolating them in 
> designated ghetto areas.  The Jewish people were
> stripped of all their 
> property and driven into the ghettos with
> nothing
> more than the clothes 
> on their backs.
> 5)  Last came the "Final Solution"; the
> extermination of the Jewish 
> people from the face of the earth.
> 
> I don't think Hitler originally planned an
> extermination of all Jews.  
> In reaching the final solution, Hitler, and the
> German people, went 
> through a progression of baby steps; each step
> lending itself to the 
> next, as Hitler's Germany marched towards the
> 
> 
> >>final
> >>
> >>
> solution.  Anyone 
> examining the progression of step should have
> realized early on that the 
> final solutions was the destination of Hitler's
> anti-semitic ship, even 
> if Hitler, and the German people, did not at the
> time know they were on 
> a course to a final solution.  The ship's rudder
> 
> 
> >>and
> >>
> >>
> sails had been set, 
> and nothing shot of a conscience change in
> course
> could have prevented 
> the Holocaust.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> 
>    
> 
> 
> 
> >I haven't met on Israeli hater that wasn't a
> Jew
> >Hater.  Holocaust deniers included.
> >
> >
> >--- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> >
> >  
> >
> wrote:
>    
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Ricardo,
> >>
> >>Haven't you worked out yet that in Michaels
> >>
> >>
> >>mind,
> >>
> >>
> >>   
> 
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Re: MSDN Path to Product Key?

[Mike yearwood]

Hey Will 

> They've got my last name _misspelled_!!
>
> So it'd have to be
>
> if caller = "Hentzen"
>   or caller = "Henten"
>   or caller = "Henzen"
>   or caller = "Hertzen"
>   or caller = "Hanson"
>   or caller = "Henson" && that muppet guy?
>   or caller = "Hansin"
>   or caller = "Hertzenwerke"
>   or 

ROFL! That reminds me of Bugs Bunny in the episode with Hansel, Gretel
and the Witch when he was saying "Hansel? Hansel?"


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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Leland Jackson]

So, Iraq has never attacked the US, but we have attacked Iraq at least 
twice.  Is that correct?

Regards,

LelandJ


Michael Madigan wrote:

>We were still at war from their 1991 invasion of
>Kuwait.
>
>
>--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Neither has Iraq ever attacked the US.  We were
>>attacked by a small 
>>group of Terrorist/Pirate on 9/11.  The attackers
>>pledged alliance to no 
>>country, nor any flag, other than to the flag of Al
>>Qauda's  Jolly 
>>Roger's skill and bones.The attackers of 9/11
>>were not of a 
>>single race; although, they we likely all of the
>>same Islamic Sunni 
>>Muslim religion.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>LelandJ
>>
>>Michael Madigan wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Lets see.
>>>
>>>Israel has never attacked us.  
>>>
>>>
>>>--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
What is it that makes it wrong to hate Jews, but
correct to hate Islamic 
Arabs of the Muslim religion or anyone else for


>>that
>>
>>
matter.  Hitler 
hated (eg feared) the Jewish race.  Hate


>>sentiments
>>
>>
today are being 
driven by propaganda against Islamic Arabs of ME
decent.  Compare and 
contrast what happened to the Jewish people under
Hitler's Nazi regime, 
and what is happening today against people of the


>>ME
>>
>>
who are of Islamic 
Arab decent under the Neoconservative leader of


>>the
>>
>>
US.

1)  Hitler cames to power using propaganda that


>>the
>>
>>
Jewish people were 
the root of all Germany's problems.
2)  When Hitler gained enough power, he required
that all Jewish people 
identify themselves by wearing a big, bright,


>>yellow
>>
>>
star of David on 
their clothing.  This made it easy to identify the
Jewish people for 
discrimination and shunning.
3)  Hitler enacted laws that divested ownership


>>and
>>
>>
rights to property 
in the hand of the Jewish people.
4)  Hitler physically separated the Jewish people;
isolating them in 
designated ghetto areas.  The Jewish people were
stripped of all their 
property and driven into the ghettos with nothing
more than the clothes 
on their backs.
5)  Last came the "Final Solution"; the
extermination of the Jewish 
people from the face of the earth.

I don't think Hitler originally planned an
extermination of all Jews.  
In reaching the final solution, Hitler, and the
German people, went 
through a progression of baby steps; each step
lending itself to the 
next, as Hitler's Germany marched towards the


>>final
>>
>>
solution.  Anyone 
examining the progression of step should have
realized early on that the 
final solutions was the destination of Hitler's
anti-semitic ship, even 
if Hitler, and the German people, did not at the
time know they were on 
a course to a final solution.  The ship's rudder


>>and
>>
>>
sails had been set, 
and nothing shot of a conscience change in course
could have prevented 
the Holocaust.

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:

   



>I haven't met on Israeli hater that wasn't a Jew
>Hater.  Holocaust deniers included.
>
>
>--- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>
>  
>
wrote:
   



> 
>
>  
>
>>Ricardo,
>>
>>Haven't you worked out yet that in Michaels
>>
>>
>>mind,
>>
>>
>>   
>>
>>
>>
if
   



>>you criticize anything to do with Israel you are
>>
>>
>>a
>>
>>
>>Jew Hater. Likewise were you to criticize GWB's
>>   
>>
>>
>>
tie
   



>>then you'd be a traitor, were you to be American
>>Citizen. If you criticicized and are not a US
>>citizen then you're a terrorist.
>>
>>::a
>>
>>PS He doesn't know the definition of liberal
>>   
>>
>>
>>
either.
   



>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>Ricardo Aráoz
>>Sent: 15 January 2007 09:16
>>To: ProFox Email List
>>Subject: Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to
>>offer own plan
>>
>>Michael Madigan wrote:
>>  
>>
>>   
>>
>>
>>
>>>Of course the dirty Arabs attacked Israel on a
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>Jewish
>>  
>>
>>   
>>
>>
>>
>>>holy day.

Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Michael Madigan]

We were still at war from their 1991 invasion of
Kuwait.


--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Neither has Iraq ever attacked the US.  We were
> attacked by a small 
> group of Terrorist/Pirate on 9/11.  The attackers
> pledged alliance to no 
> country, nor any flag, other than to the flag of Al
> Qauda's  Jolly 
> Roger's skill and bones.The attackers of 9/11
> were not of a 
> single race; although, they we likely all of the
> same Islamic Sunni 
> Muslim religion.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> 
> >Lets see.
> >
> >Israel has never attacked us.  
> >
> >
> >--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>What is it that makes it wrong to hate Jews, but
> >>correct to hate Islamic 
> >>Arabs of the Muslim religion or anyone else for
> that
> >>matter.  Hitler 
> >>hated (eg feared) the Jewish race.  Hate
> sentiments
> >>today are being 
> >>driven by propaganda against Islamic Arabs of ME
> >>decent.  Compare and 
> >>contrast what happened to the Jewish people under
> >>Hitler's Nazi regime, 
> >>and what is happening today against people of the
> ME
> >>who are of Islamic 
> >>Arab decent under the Neoconservative leader of
> the
> >>US.
> >>
> >>1)  Hitler cames to power using propaganda that
> the
> >>Jewish people were 
> >>the root of all Germany's problems.
> >>2)  When Hitler gained enough power, he required
> >>that all Jewish people 
> >>identify themselves by wearing a big, bright,
> yellow
> >>star of David on 
> >>their clothing.  This made it easy to identify the
> >>Jewish people for 
> >>discrimination and shunning.
> >>3)  Hitler enacted laws that divested ownership
> and
> >>rights to property 
> >>in the hand of the Jewish people.
> >>4)  Hitler physically separated the Jewish people;
> >>isolating them in 
> >>designated ghetto areas.  The Jewish people were
> >>stripped of all their 
> >>property and driven into the ghettos with nothing
> >>more than the clothes 
> >>on their backs.
> >>5)  Last came the "Final Solution"; the
> >>extermination of the Jewish 
> >>people from the face of the earth.
> >>
> >>I don't think Hitler originally planned an
> >>extermination of all Jews.  
> >>In reaching the final solution, Hitler, and the
> >>German people, went 
> >>through a progression of baby steps; each step
> >>lending itself to the 
> >>next, as Hitler's Germany marched towards the
> final
> >>solution.  Anyone 
> >>examining the progression of step should have
> >>realized early on that the 
> >>final solutions was the destination of Hitler's
> >>anti-semitic ship, even 
> >>if Hitler, and the German people, did not at the
> >>time know they were on 
> >>a course to a final solution.  The ship's rudder
> and
> >>sails had been set, 
> >>and nothing shot of a conscience change in course
> >>could have prevented 
> >>the Holocaust.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>LelandJ
> >>
> >>Michael Madigan wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I haven't met on Israeli hater that wasn't a Jew
> >>>Hater.  Holocaust deniers included.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> Ricardo,
> 
> Haven't you worked out yet that in Michaels
> mind,
> 
> 
> >>if
> >>
> >>
> you criticize anything to do with Israel you are
> a
> Jew Hater. Likewise were you to criticize GWB's
> 
> 
> >>tie
> >>
> >>
> then you'd be a traitor, were you to be American
> Citizen. If you criticicized and are not a US
> citizen then you're a terrorist.
> 
> ::a
> 
> PS He doesn't know the definition of liberal
> 
> 
> >>either.
> >>
> >>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Ricardo Aráoz
> Sent: 15 January 2007 09:16
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to
> offer own plan
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
>    
> 
> 
> 
> >Of course the dirty Arabs attacked Israel on a
> > 
> >
> >  
> >
> Jewish
>    
> 
> 
> 
> >holy day.  But of course a Jew-hater like you
> > 
> >
> >  
> >
> would
>    
> 
> 
> 
> >conveniently forget that.
> >
> > 
> >
> >  
> >
> Did you mean to say Israeli-hater? Can you
> 
> 
> >>perceive
> >>
> >>
> the difference?
> 
>    
> 
> 
> 
> >--- Bill Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 
> 
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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Leland Jackson]

Neither has Iraq ever attacked the US.  We were attacked by a small 
group of Terrorist/Pirate on 9/11.  The attackers pledged alliance to no 
country, nor any flag, other than to the flag of Al Qauda's  Jolly 
Roger's skill and bones.The attackers of 9/11 were not of a 
single race; although, they we likely all of the same Islamic Sunni 
Muslim religion.

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:

>Lets see.
>
>Israel has never attacked us.  
>
>
>--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>What is it that makes it wrong to hate Jews, but
>>correct to hate Islamic 
>>Arabs of the Muslim religion or anyone else for that
>>matter.  Hitler 
>>hated (eg feared) the Jewish race.  Hate sentiments
>>today are being 
>>driven by propaganda against Islamic Arabs of ME
>>decent.  Compare and 
>>contrast what happened to the Jewish people under
>>Hitler's Nazi regime, 
>>and what is happening today against people of the ME
>>who are of Islamic 
>>Arab decent under the Neoconservative leader of the
>>US.
>>
>>1)  Hitler cames to power using propaganda that the
>>Jewish people were 
>>the root of all Germany's problems.
>>2)  When Hitler gained enough power, he required
>>that all Jewish people 
>>identify themselves by wearing a big, bright, yellow
>>star of David on 
>>their clothing.  This made it easy to identify the
>>Jewish people for 
>>discrimination and shunning.
>>3)  Hitler enacted laws that divested ownership and
>>rights to property 
>>in the hand of the Jewish people.
>>4)  Hitler physically separated the Jewish people;
>>isolating them in 
>>designated ghetto areas.  The Jewish people were
>>stripped of all their 
>>property and driven into the ghettos with nothing
>>more than the clothes 
>>on their backs.
>>5)  Last came the "Final Solution"; the
>>extermination of the Jewish 
>>people from the face of the earth.
>>
>>I don't think Hitler originally planned an
>>extermination of all Jews.  
>>In reaching the final solution, Hitler, and the
>>German people, went 
>>through a progression of baby steps; each step
>>lending itself to the 
>>next, as Hitler's Germany marched towards the final
>>solution.  Anyone 
>>examining the progression of step should have
>>realized early on that the 
>>final solutions was the destination of Hitler's
>>anti-semitic ship, even 
>>if Hitler, and the German people, did not at the
>>time know they were on 
>>a course to a final solution.  The ship's rudder and
>>sails had been set, 
>>and nothing shot of a conscience change in course
>>could have prevented 
>>the Holocaust.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>LelandJ
>>
>>Michael Madigan wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I haven't met on Israeli hater that wasn't a Jew
>>>Hater.  Holocaust deniers included.
>>>
>>>
>>>--- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>  
>>>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
Ricardo,

Haven't you worked out yet that in Michaels mind,


>>if
>>
>>
you criticize anything to do with Israel you are a
Jew Hater. Likewise were you to criticize GWB's


>>tie
>>
>>
then you'd be a traitor, were you to be American
Citizen. If you criticicized and are not a US
citizen then you're a terrorist.

::a

PS He doesn't know the definition of liberal


>>either.
>>
>>
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Ricardo Aráoz
Sent: 15 January 2007 09:16
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to
offer own plan

Michael Madigan wrote:
   



>Of course the dirty Arabs attacked Israel on a
> 
>
>  
>
Jewish
   



>holy day.  But of course a Jew-hater like you
> 
>
>  
>
would
   



>conveniently forget that.
>
> 
>
>  
>
Did you mean to say Israeli-hater? Can you


>>perceive
>>
>>
the difference?

   



>--- Bill Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
>
>  
>
>It wouldn't matter to us much if they didn't
> 
>
>  
>
>>control a commodity
>>that
>>   
>>
>>
>>
>the whole world has developed a dependence
>  
>
>>on.
>>
>>
>Oil When OPEC decided to flex their muscle in
> 
>
>  
>
>>the mid 70's, it sent
>>shock 
>>   
>>
>>
>>
>waves through out the entire world
> 
>
>  
>
economically
   



>>speaking. Double 
>>   
>>
>>
>>
>digit inflatio

Re: MSDN Path to Product Key?

[MB Software Solutions]

Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote:
>>> Don't you just love them?
>>> 
>>>   
>> That's because they have something in their call center logic like this:
>>
>> IF Caller = 'HENTZEN' then && f*ck with him since he's a Linux guy
>> do quality1_1
>> ELSE && regular customer
>> do quality2_0
>> endif
>> 
>
> HAVEN'T YOU BEEN READING THE THREAD??
>
> They've got my last name _misspelled_!!
>
> So it'd have to be
>
> if caller = "Hentzen"
>or caller = "Henten"
>or caller = "Henzen"
>or caller = "Hertzen"
>or caller = "Hanson"
>or caller = "Henson" && that muppet guy?
>or caller = "Hansin"
>or caller = "Hertzenwerke"
>or 
>
> 
>
> Whil
>
>   
ROFL!


-- 
Michael J. Babcock, MCP
MB Software Solutions, LLC
http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com
http://fabmate.com
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Re: MSDN Path to Product Key?

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

>> Don't you just love them?
>> 
> That's because they have something in their call center logic like this:
> 
> IF Caller = 'HENTZEN' then && f*ck with him since he's a Linux guy
> do quality1_1
> ELSE && regular customer
> do quality2_0
> endif

HAVEN'T YOU BEEN READING THE THREAD??

They've got my last name _misspelled_!!

So it'd have to be

if caller = "Hentzen"
   or caller = "Henten"
   or caller = "Henzen"
   or caller = "Hertzen"
   or caller = "Hanson"
   or caller = "Henson" && that muppet guy?
   or caller = "Hansin"
   or caller = "Hertzenwerke"
   or 



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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Michael Madigan]

Lets see.

Israel has never attacked us.  


--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What is it that makes it wrong to hate Jews, but
> correct to hate Islamic 
> Arabs of the Muslim religion or anyone else for that
> matter.  Hitler 
> hated (eg feared) the Jewish race.  Hate sentiments
> today are being 
> driven by propaganda against Islamic Arabs of ME
> decent.  Compare and 
> contrast what happened to the Jewish people under
> Hitler's Nazi regime, 
> and what is happening today against people of the ME
> who are of Islamic 
> Arab decent under the Neoconservative leader of the
> US.
> 
> 1)  Hitler cames to power using propaganda that the
> Jewish people were 
> the root of all Germany's problems.
> 2)  When Hitler gained enough power, he required
> that all Jewish people 
> identify themselves by wearing a big, bright, yellow
> star of David on 
> their clothing.  This made it easy to identify the
> Jewish people for 
> discrimination and shunning.
> 3)  Hitler enacted laws that divested ownership and
> rights to property 
> in the hand of the Jewish people.
> 4)  Hitler physically separated the Jewish people;
> isolating them in 
> designated ghetto areas.  The Jewish people were
> stripped of all their 
> property and driven into the ghettos with nothing
> more than the clothes 
> on their backs.
> 5)  Last came the "Final Solution"; the
> extermination of the Jewish 
> people from the face of the earth.
> 
> I don't think Hitler originally planned an
> extermination of all Jews.  
> In reaching the final solution, Hitler, and the
> German people, went 
> through a progression of baby steps; each step
> lending itself to the 
> next, as Hitler's Germany marched towards the final
> solution.  Anyone 
> examining the progression of step should have
> realized early on that the 
> final solutions was the destination of Hitler's
> anti-semitic ship, even 
> if Hitler, and the German people, did not at the
> time know they were on 
> a course to a final solution.  The ship's rudder and
> sails had been set, 
> and nothing shot of a conscience change in course
> could have prevented 
> the Holocaust.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> 
> >I haven't met on Israeli hater that wasn't a Jew
> >Hater.  Holocaust deniers included.
> >
> >
> >--- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Ricardo,
> >>
> >>Haven't you worked out yet that in Michaels mind,
> if
> >>you criticize anything to do with Israel you are a
> >>Jew Hater. Likewise were you to criticize GWB's
> tie
> >>then you'd be a traitor, were you to be American
> >>Citizen. If you criticicized and are not a US
> >>citizen then you're a terrorist.
> >>
> >>::a
> >>
> >>PS He doesn't know the definition of liberal
> either.
> >>
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> >>Ricardo Aráoz
> >>Sent: 15 January 2007 09:16
> >>To: ProFox Email List
> >>Subject: Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to
> >>offer own plan
> >>
> >>Michael Madigan wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Of course the dirty Arabs attacked Israel on a
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>Jewish
> >>
> >>
> >>>holy day.  But of course a Jew-hater like you
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>would
> >>
> >>
> >>>conveniently forget that.
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>Did you mean to say Israeli-hater? Can you
> perceive
> >>the difference?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>--- Bill Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>>It wouldn't matter to us much if they didn't
> >>>  
> >>>
> control a commodity
> that
> 
> 
> >>>the whole world has developed a dependence
> on.
> >>>Oil When OPEC decided to flex their muscle in
> >>>  
> >>>
> the mid 70's, it sent
> shock 
> 
> 
> >>>waves through out the entire world
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>economically
> >>
> >>
> speaking. Double 
> 
> 
> >>>digit inflation, double digit unemployment
> and
> >>>  
> >>>
> the deepest economic
> 
> 
> 
> >>>problems that the U.S. had faced since the
> >>>  
> >>>
> great depression. 
> 
> 
> >>Yup, that really sucked.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >You seem to forget that was due to the fact
> that
> >  
> >
> USA broke 
> 
> 
> >the Bretton Woods agreement which stated that
> >  
> >
> dollar was to 
> 
> 
> >be tied to gold reserves in USA. The dollar
> >  
> >
> stopped being 
> 
> 
> >backed by gold, it started devaluating and the
> >  
> >
> OPEC took action.
> 
> 
> The 1973 oil crisis first began on October 17,
> 
> 
> >>1973
> 
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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Ed Leafe]

On Jan 15, 2007, at 1:39 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote:

> I remember walking down an alley in the late 70's looking for a bar in
> alexandria egypt..
> A little ole guy come up missing an arm and knife cuts on his face  
> and said
> you don't belong here.

Sounds like some of the locals in Mississippi or Alabama, who aren't  
exactly known for their hospitality and openness to people from other  
parts of the country, especially folks from up north, or those whose  
ethnic heritage doesn't match theirs. Not much difference between  
them and your Egyptian friend.

-- Ed Leafe
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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Leland Jackson]

What is it that makes it wrong to hate Jews, but correct to hate Islamic 
Arabs of the Muslim religion or anyone else for that matter.  Hitler 
hated (eg feared) the Jewish race.  Hate sentiments today are being 
driven by propaganda against Islamic Arabs of ME decent.  Compare and 
contrast what happened to the Jewish people under Hitler's Nazi regime, 
and what is happening today against people of the ME who are of Islamic 
Arab decent under the Neoconservative leader of the US.

1)  Hitler cames to power using propaganda that the Jewish people were 
the root of all Germany's problems.
2)  When Hitler gained enough power, he required that all Jewish people 
identify themselves by wearing a big, bright, yellow star of David on 
their clothing.  This made it easy to identify the Jewish people for 
discrimination and shunning.
3)  Hitler enacted laws that divested ownership and rights to property 
in the hand of the Jewish people.
4)  Hitler physically separated the Jewish people; isolating them in 
designated ghetto areas.  The Jewish people were stripped of all their 
property and driven into the ghettos with nothing more than the clothes 
on their backs.
5)  Last came the "Final Solution"; the extermination of the Jewish 
people from the face of the earth.

I don't think Hitler originally planned an extermination of all Jews.  
In reaching the final solution, Hitler, and the German people, went 
through a progression of baby steps; each step lending itself to the 
next, as Hitler's Germany marched towards the final solution.  Anyone 
examining the progression of step should have realized early on that the 
final solutions was the destination of Hitler's anti-semitic ship, even 
if Hitler, and the German people, did not at the time know they were on 
a course to a final solution.  The ship's rudder and sails had been set, 
and nothing shot of a conscience change in course could have prevented 
the Holocaust.

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:

>I haven't met on Israeli hater that wasn't a Jew
>Hater.  Holocaust deniers included.
>
>
>--- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Ricardo,
>>
>>Haven't you worked out yet that in Michaels mind, if
>>you criticize anything to do with Israel you are a
>>Jew Hater. Likewise were you to criticize GWB's tie
>>then you'd be a traitor, were you to be American
>>Citizen. If you criticicized and are not a US
>>citizen then you're a terrorist.
>>
>>::a
>>
>>PS He doesn't know the definition of liberal either.
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>Ricardo Aráoz
>>Sent: 15 January 2007 09:16
>>To: ProFox Email List
>>Subject: Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to
>>offer own plan
>>
>>Michael Madigan wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Of course the dirty Arabs attacked Israel on a
>>>  
>>>
>>Jewish
>>
>>
>>>holy day.  But of course a Jew-hater like you
>>>  
>>>
>>would
>>
>>
>>>conveniently forget that.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>Did you mean to say Israeli-hater? Can you perceive
>>the difference?
>>
>>
>>
>>>--- Bill Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>It wouldn't matter to us much if they didn't
>>>  
>>>
control a commodity
that


>>>the whole world has developed a dependence on.
>>>Oil When OPEC decided to flex their muscle in
>>>  
>>>
the mid 70's, it sent
shock 


>>>waves through out the entire world
>>>  
>>>
>>economically
>>
>>
speaking. Double 


>>>digit inflation, double digit unemployment and
>>>  
>>>
the deepest economic



>>>problems that the U.S. had faced since the
>>>  
>>>
great depression. 


>>Yup, that really sucked.
>>
>>
>>
>You seem to forget that was due to the fact that
>  
>
USA broke 


>the Bretton Woods agreement which stated that
>  
>
dollar was to 


>be tied to gold reserves in USA. The dollar
>  
>
stopped being 


>backed by gold, it started devaluating and the
>  
>
OPEC took action.


The 1973 oil crisis first began on October 17,


>>1973
>>
>>
when the
Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting


>>Countries
>>
>>
(OAPEC), consisting
of the Arab members of Organization of Petroleum
Exporting
Countries(OPEC) plus Egypt and Syria, announced


>>as a
>>
>>
result of the
ongoing Yom Kippur War, that they would no longer
ship petroleum to
nations that had supported Israel in its conflict
with Syria and Egypt.
This included the United States and its allies in
Western Europe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wi

RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Virgil Bierschwale]

Nope that’s it

Its interesting how they mix current day events into the show though..

If you're looking for something more then fiction though, well its just
entertainment...

I try not to watch too many shows because they are a big time killer and I
have things I want to accomplish.
I do like this one and ncis and the unit...

Other then that, its just an occasional movie 


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of john harvey
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:37 PM
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

I like the show, but I'm having a hard time figuring it out. I don't watch
it all the time, but it seems everytime I do, the president is going along
with a plan to kill Jack Bauer. Jack just keeps on keeping on though, and
winds up shooting a bunch of people, saving the day and then goes right back
into the fold. Am I missing something, or is this what is happening?

John

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Virgil Bierschwale
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:22 PM
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

Never saw it...
Was typing on the treo earlier so couldn't type much..

24 last night has a little weasel that advises the president..
He's doing his best to throw all the laws out and arrest everybody...

This is one area that I do agree with bill on and that is that there are
people who would like to do this to us now. 


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Helio W.
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:26 AM
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Subject: Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

Wrong show. You should watch Battlestar Galactica.

On 1/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> one thing I do agree with bill on
> if you watched 24 last night there is a guy taking all rights away 
> forget his name, just look for the weasel


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RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Virgil Bierschwale]

Its funny how the new show 24 parallels what I see happening in some aspects
of our lives.

Don't know how many saw it last night, but the attitude was "That can't
happen here"
Yep it can.

I remember walking down an alley in the late 70's looking for a bar in
alexandria egypt..
A little ole guy come up missing an arm and knife cuts on his face and said
you don't belong here.

Folks, these people are different then us and they don't have the same
beliefs that we do and if you think that china or russia or india or any of
these countries have our best interests at heart, then you're a fool.

I've worked with some good people from india and russia so don't take it
wrong as I mean its their politicians I don't trust, nor do I trust our
politiicans either.. 


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
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Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

Based on past performance, what are the odds that Ed is right about it?
Zero?  

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> let's hope you're right and I'm wrong
> -Original Message-
> 
> From:  Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subj:  Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan
> Date:  Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:14 am
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> To:  ProFox Email List 
> 
> On Jan 15, 2007, at 9:50 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > you don't know that for a fact
> 
>   Two words: Mission Accomplished.
> 
> > I believe its just a matter of time before new
> york is hit again
> 
>   Hey, I believe that it's just a matter of time until the Packers win

> the Super Bowl.
> 
>   See, I can throw out irrelevant predictions, too.
> 
> -- Ed Leafe
> -- http://leafe.com
> -- http://dabodev.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[john harvey]

I like the show, but I'm having a hard time figuring it out. I don't watch
it all the time, but it seems everytime I do, the president is going along
with a plan to kill Jack Bauer. Jack just keeps on keeping on though, and
winds up shooting a bunch of people, saving the day and then goes right back
into the fold. Am I missing something, or is this what is happening?

John

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Virgil Bierschwale
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:22 PM
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

Never saw it...
Was typing on the treo earlier so couldn't type much..

24 last night has a little weasel that advises the president..
He's doing his best to throw all the laws out and arrest everybody...

This is one area that I do agree with bill on and that is that there are
people who would like to do this to us now. 


Virgil Bierschwale
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Helio W.
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:26 AM
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Wrong show. You should watch Battlestar Galactica.

On 1/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> one thing I do agree with bill on
> if you watched 24 last night there is a guy taking all rights away 
> forget his name, just look for the weasel


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Re: [OT] Thought for the Day

[Michael Madigan]

"Where are the white women at?"
-  Martin Luther King



--- Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent
> about things that  
> matter"
>   - the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.
> 
> -- Ed Leafe
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RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Michael Madigan]

Kennedy stared the bastards in the eye and the
Russians backed down.

That's what we have to do with the rag heads.




--- Bill Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > > We're at war today
> > 
> > No. The war ended almost 4 years ago. We are an 
> > occupying army now.
> 
> 
> We've got our finger stuck in Muslim/Arab eyes, and
> we're one more
> serious attack away from a far deeper appreciation
> of what's been
> wrought on us by the warmongers occupying our
> capital and information
> supply.
> 
> We don't understand or respect our enemy. Despite
> all the lessons of
> history, we've been led to believe that all we have
> to do is send in the
> Marines and our enemies will cower under our "shock
> and awe". What
> actually happened on the way to that throne is
> already history; what
> happens next is anyone's guess, but by now we should
> already know it's
> not going to be the grand and glorious
> victory-over-evil bill of goods
> we've been sold on.
> 
> Decades ago, we went through the Cuban missile
> crisis, and a brush with
> disaster the likes of which we still can't imagine,
> yet with that
> experience solidly under our belt, we have not taken
> the steps necessary
> to prevent that possibility from ever happening
> again - instead we did
> the opposite: more weapons, more bombs, more shock
> and awe - and more
> belligerence.
> 
> What will it take for us to finally learn that war
> in the nuclear age is
> not an option? Why can't we grasp a simple truth:
> that when we disagree
> with the rulers of another country, the solution
> isn't to kill or starve
> all the people in that country, who were just
> victims themselves, but to
> use national and international diplomacy to deal
> with the errant ruler?
> We are aware that those "bunker-busters" being
> readied for Iran are
> actually nuclear weapons, right?
> 
> I know - these are all statements of the obvious,
> and shouldn't even
> have to be said, but here we are today, closer to
> nightmare scenarios at
> home (Big Brother) and abroad (war) then we could
> have imagined not too
> many years ago. The scariest part isn't what's
> happening already, but
> what is very likely to happen next if we don't do
> what we have to do.
> We, the American people, didn't bring this on, it
> was done for us, by
> that gang and their cohorts. They're not telling us
> this, but I'll say
> it: we need to choose between their attitude and
> their direction - and
> the principles we want to live by. 
> 
> 
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> > -- Ed Leafe
> 
> 
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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Michael Madigan]

Based on past performance, what are the odds that Ed
is right about it?  Zero?  

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> let's hope you're right and I'm wrong
> -Original Message-
> 
> From:  Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subj:  Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer
> own plan
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> On Jan 15, 2007, at 9:50 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
> 
> > you don't know that for a fact
> 
>   Two words: Mission Accomplished.
> 
> > I believe its just a matter of time before new
> york is hit again
> 
>   Hey, I believe that it's just a matter of time
> until the Packers win  
> the Super Bowl.
> 
>   See, I can throw out irrelevant predictions, too.
> 
> -- Ed Leafe
> -- http://leafe.com
> -- http://dabodev.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Michael Madigan]

The same old shit.  Mission Accomplished.  He can't
come up with anything better.


--- Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Jan 15, 2007, at 9:50 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
> 
> > you don't know that for a fact
> 
>   Two words: Mission Accomplished.
> 
> > I believe its just a matter of time before new
> york is hit again
> 
>   Hey, I believe that it's just a matter of time
> until the Packers win  
> the Super Bowl.
> 
>   See, I can throw out irrelevant predictions, too.
> 
> -- Ed Leafe
> -- http://leafe.com
> -- http://dabodev.com
> 
> 
> 
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Re: MSDN Path to Product Key?

[MB Software Solutions]

Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote:
> Step 3. I respond:
>
> Yes, I know that. (Look in the "Subscriber Information" section below.)
>
> As I stated in my email, I've already tried that, and I still get the
> "The data you provided could not be located in our system"
>
> Step 4. They respond:
>
> Thank you for your reply. However, we do not have a fix or work around 
> for this problem at this time.
>
> Don't you just love them?
> 
That's because they have something in their call center logic like this:

IF Caller = 'HENTZEN' then && f*ck with him since he's a Linux guy
do quality1_1
ELSE && regular customer
do quality2_0
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Re: [OT] No, Bush is the new Keating

[Michael Madigan]

Paul Krugman is a vicious anti-American.  His writings
have been thoroughly discredited.  


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> based on what I'm reading here you would advocate
> giving up before you even got started
> 
> granted its a fine line but most people give up when
> they're nearly there
> 
> kind of like the old saying
> its allways darkest before the dawn
> 
> -Original Message-
> 
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http://welcome-to-pottersville.blogspot.com/2007/01/paul-krugman-
> 
> texas-strategy
> ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/yzdwkw )
> 
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - -
> Hundreds of news articles and opinion pieces have
> described President  
> Bush’s decision to escalate the Iraq war as a “Hail
> Mary pass.”
> 
> But that’s the wrong metaphor.
> 
> Mr. Bush isn’t Roger Staubach, trying to pull out a
> win for the  
> Dallas Cowboys. He’s Charles Keating, using other
> people’s money to  
> keep Lincoln Savings going long after it should have
> been shut down —  
> and squandering the life savings of thousands of
> investors, not to  
> mention billions in taxpayer dollars, along the way.
> 
> The parallel is actually quite exact. During the
> savings and loan  
> scandal of the 1980s, people like Mr. Keating kept
> failed banks going  
> by faking financial success. Mr. Bush has kept a
> failed war going by  
> faking military success.
> 
> The “surge” is just another stalling tactic,
> designed to buy more time.
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - -
> 
> -- Ed Leafe
> -- http://leafe.com
> -- http://dabodev.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [NF] IE7 and MS Virtual Earth Mapping conflict with FireFox

[Charlie Coleman]

At 09:25 AM 1/14/2007 -0500, Bill Arnold wrote:

>Ran into a problem yesterday that might affect others, so will mention.
>
>I'm using the MS Virtual Earth mapping service (customized based on Dave
>Crozier's example), and it worked fine, but this week my customer
>started getting 'access denied' messages when using it.
...

>Lessons learned:
>
>1. FireFox cannot be running when the mapping service is accessed (and
>IE7 is installed).
>2. It seems that having (temporarily) made IE7 the default browser was a
>factor in solving this

Why the hell are people still using IE

Better lesson learned: get the hell away from MS stuff!


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RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Michael Madigan]

I haven't met on Israeli hater that wasn't a Jew
Hater.  Holocaust deniers included.


--- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ricardo,
> 
> Haven't you worked out yet that in Michaels mind, if
> you criticize anything to do with Israel you are a
> Jew Hater. Likewise were you to criticize GWB's tie
> then you'd be a traitor, were you to be American
> Citizen. If you criticicized and are not a US
> citizen then you're a terrorist.
> 
> ::a
> 
> PS He doesn't know the definition of liberal either.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Ricardo Aráoz
> Sent: 15 January 2007 09:16
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to
> offer own plan
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > Of course the dirty Arabs attacked Israel on a
> Jewish
> > holy day.  But of course a Jew-hater like you
> would
> > conveniently forget that.
> > 
> 
> Did you mean to say Israeli-hater? Can you perceive
> the difference?
> 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Bill Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > It wouldn't matter to us much if they didn't
> >> control a commodity
> >> that
> > the whole world has developed a dependence on.
> > Oil When OPEC decided to flex their muscle in
> >> the mid 70's, it sent
> >> shock 
> > waves through out the entire world
> economically
> >> speaking. Double 
> > digit inflation, double digit unemployment and
> >> the deepest economic
> >>
> > problems that the U.S. had faced since the
> >> great depression. 
> 
>  Yup, that really sucked.
> 
> >>>
> >>> You seem to forget that was due to the fact that
> >> USA broke 
> >>> the Bretton Woods agreement which stated that
> >> dollar was to 
> >>> be tied to gold reserves in USA. The dollar
> >> stopped being 
> >>> backed by gold, it started devaluating and the
> >> OPEC took action.
> >>
> >>
> >> The 1973 oil crisis first began on October 17,
> 1973
> >> when the
> >> Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting
> Countries
> >> (OAPEC), consisting
> >> of the Arab members of Organization of Petroleum
> >> Exporting
> >> Countries(OPEC) plus Egypt and Syria, announced
> as a
> >> result of the
> >> ongoing Yom Kippur War, that they would no longer
> >> ship petroleum to
> >> nations that had supported Israel in its conflict
> >> with Syria and Egypt.
> >> This included the United States and its allies in
> >> Western Europe.
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
> >>
> >> But on October 17, OPEC struck back against the
> West
> >> by imposing an oil
> >> embargo on the U.S., while increasing prices by
> 70%
> >> to America's Western
> >> European allies. Overnight, the price of a barrel
> of
> >> oil to these
> >> nations rose from $3 to $5.11. [In January 1974,
> >> they raised it further
> >> to $11.65.] The U.S. and the Netherlands, in
> >> particular, were singled
> >> out for their support of Israel in the war.
> >>
> >
>
http://www.buyandhold.com/bh/en/education/history/2002/arab.html
> >> The embargo was applied to oil-importing
> countries
> >> on a sliding scale
> >> depending on each country's relationship with
> >> Israel. The United States,
> >> the Netherlands, and South Africa were Israel's
> >> strongest supporters and
> >> thus bore the brunt of the embargo-a total ban on
> >> the shipment of Arab
> >> oil.
> >>
> >
>
http://www.referenceforbusiness.com/encyclopedia/Oli-Per/Organization-of
> >> -Petroleum-Exporting-Countries-OPEC.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bill
> >>
> >>
> 
> 
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[OT] Thought for the Day

[Ed Leafe]

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that  
matter"
- the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Michael Madigan]

There is no difference.  I haven't met one Israeli
hater that wasn't a Jew-hater.


--- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > Of course the dirty Arabs attacked Israel on a
> Jewish
> > holy day.  But of course a Jew-hater like you
> would
> > conveniently forget that.
> > 
> 
> Did you mean to say Israeli-hater? Can you perceive
> the difference?
> 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Bill Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > It wouldn't matter to us much if they didn't
> >> control a commodity
> >> that
> > the whole world has developed a dependence on.
> > Oil When OPEC decided to flex their muscle in
> >> the mid 70's, it sent
> >> shock 
> > waves through out the entire world
> economically
> >> speaking. Double 
> > digit inflation, double digit unemployment and
> >> the deepest economic
> >>
> > problems that the U.S. had faced since the
> >> great depression. 
> 
>  Yup, that really sucked.
> 
> >>>
> >>> You seem to forget that was due to the fact that
> >> USA broke 
> >>> the Bretton Woods agreement which stated that
> >> dollar was to 
> >>> be tied to gold reserves in USA. The dollar
> >> stopped being 
> >>> backed by gold, it started devaluating and the
> >> OPEC took action.
> >>
> >>
> >> The 1973 oil crisis first began on October 17,
> 1973
> >> when the
> >> Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting
> Countries
> >> (OAPEC), consisting
> >> of the Arab members of Organization of Petroleum
> >> Exporting
> >> Countries(OPEC) plus Egypt and Syria, announced
> as a
> >> result of the
> >> ongoing Yom Kippur War, that they would no longer
> >> ship petroleum to
> >> nations that had supported Israel in its conflict
> >> with Syria and Egypt.
> >> This included the United States and its allies in
> >> Western Europe.
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
> >>
> >> But on October 17, OPEC struck back against the
> West
> >> by imposing an oil
> >> embargo on the U.S., while increasing prices by
> 70%
> >> to America's Western
> >> European allies. Overnight, the price of a barrel
> of
> >> oil to these
> >> nations rose from $3 to $5.11. [In January 1974,
> >> they raised it further
> >> to $11.65.] The U.S. and the Netherlands, in
> >> particular, were singled
> >> out for their support of Israel in the war.
> >>
> >
>
http://www.buyandhold.com/bh/en/education/history/2002/arab.html
> >> The embargo was applied to oil-importing
> countries
> >> on a sliding scale
> >> depending on each country's relationship with
> >> Israel. The United States,
> >> the Netherlands, and South Africa were Israel's
> >> strongest supporters and
> >> thus bore the brunt of the embargo-a total ban on
> >> the shipment of Arab
> >> oil.
> >>
> >
>
http://www.referenceforbusiness.com/encyclopedia/Oli-Per/Organization-of
> >> -Petroleum-Exporting-Countries-OPEC.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bill
> >>
> >>
> 
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RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Virgil Bierschwale]

Never saw it...
Was typing on the treo earlier so couldn’t type much..

24 last night has a little weasel that advises the president..
He's doing his best to throw all the laws out and arrest everybody...

This is one area that I do agree with bill on and that is that there are
people who would like to do this to us now. 


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Wrong show. You should watch Battlestar Galactica.

On 1/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> one thing I do agree with bill on
> if you watched 24 last night there is a guy taking all rights away 
> forget his name, just look for the weasel


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RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Virgil Bierschwale]

I agree with everything you're saying except for the last two lines. 


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Bill Arnold
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:52 AM
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> > We're at war today
> 
>   No. The war ended almost 4 years ago. We are an occupying army now.


We've got our finger stuck in Muslim/Arab eyes, and we're one more serious
attack away from a far deeper appreciation of what's been wrought on us by
the warmongers occupying our capital and information supply.

We don't understand or respect our enemy. Despite all the lessons of
history, we've been led to believe that all we have to do is send in the
Marines and our enemies will cower under our "shock and awe". What actually
happened on the way to that throne is already history; what happens next is
anyone's guess, but by now we should already know it's not going to be the
grand and glorious victory-over-evil bill of goods we've been sold on.

Decades ago, we went through the Cuban missile crisis, and a brush with
disaster the likes of which we still can't imagine, yet with that experience
solidly under our belt, we have not taken the steps necessary to prevent
that possibility from ever happening again - instead we did the opposite:
more weapons, more bombs, more shock and awe - and more belligerence.

What will it take for us to finally learn that war in the nuclear age is not
an option? Why can't we grasp a simple truth: that when we disagree with the
rulers of another country, the solution isn't to kill or starve all the
people in that country, who were just victims themselves, but to use
national and international diplomacy to deal with the errant ruler?
We are aware that those "bunker-busters" being readied for Iran are actually
nuclear weapons, right?

I know - these are all statements of the obvious, and shouldn't even have to
be said, but here we are today, closer to nightmare scenarios at home (Big
Brother) and abroad (war) then we could have imagined not too many years
ago. The scariest part isn't what's happening already, but what is very
likely to happen next if we don't do what we have to do.
We, the American people, didn't bring this on, it was done for us, by that
gang and their cohorts. They're not telling us this, but I'll say
it: we need to choose between their attitude and their direction - and the
principles we want to live by. 



Bill





 
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RE: [NF] SQL Server: Bulk insert error

[David Crooks]

On Monday, January 15, 2007 1:04 PM I wrote:

>I am creating a temporary cursor then a bulk insert and I get an error:
>The current user is not the database or object owner of table
'#temptable'. Cannot perform the 
>SET operation.

I found the KB #302621 that says it is a Bug.  Thanks anyway... 

David L. Crooks


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RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Virgil Bierschwale]

Its only irrelevant if it doesn’t happen.
Way too soon for you to say it ain't going to happen.

But for what its worth, I hope you're right and I'm wrong. 


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
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Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:14 AM
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On Jan 15, 2007, at 9:50 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> you don't know that for a fact

Two words: Mission Accomplished.

> I believe its just a matter of time before new york is hit again

Hey, I believe that it's just a matter of time until the Packers win
the Super Bowl.

See, I can throw out irrelevant predictions, too.

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[NF] SQL Server: Bulk insert error

[David Crooks]

I am creating a temporary cursor then a bulk insert and I get an error:
The current user is not the database or object owner of table
'#temptable'. Cannot perform the SET operation.

I did verify the user I login as does have rights to bulk insert on the
database.

Any ideas? TIA!

David L. Crooks


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Re: MSDN Path to Product Key?

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote:
> On Jan 15, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote:
> 
>> turns out the data entry
>> idiots at MSFT spelled my name wrong - despite the fact that my email
>> address, with my name in it, was the next item to enter.
 >
> Did they see "Whil" and oh-so-helpfully "correct" it for you? I  
> suppose that there are at least a few folks who would assume _you_  
> made a data entry error, just because they hadn't seen it before. How  
> many variations of "Whil" do you get?

Nope, it was the 'hentzen' part.

Of course, on my msdn sub, it's '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. And that part 
was found in their database. Just not "Whil Hentzen".

Step 1. I send them this email:

 > I've received an MSDN subscription as part of the MVP program
 > (where MVPs can offer a complementary one year MSDN sub to a business
 > associate). I have received the MSDN box and am trying to install
 > WinXP on a test machine, but I need a Benefit Access Number:   .
 >
 > https://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-US/subscriptions/add/default.aspx
 >
 > I can't find this number on any of the paperwork I've got here. I've
 > tried the MSDN Subscriber ID I received in an email (see below) as
 > well as the ID on the shipping paper (nn) but neither were
 > found in your system.

Step 2. They answer:

 > Hello Whil,
 >
 > Thank you for your question. The Benefit Access Number is your MSDN
 > Subscriber number: nn

Step 3. I respond:

Yes, I know that. (Look in the "Subscriber Information" section below.)

As I stated in my email, I've already tried that, and I still get the
"The data you provided could not be located in our system"

Step 4. They respond:

Thank you for your reply. However, we do not have a fix or work around 
for this problem at this time.

Don't you just love them?

> I admit that I did a triple take on it the first time I saw it. (Then  
> again, etching in stone isn't usually as prone to errors as plain ol'  
> typing!)

Yes, many people look at me odd when they first see it. I've thought 
about switching it back but that would cause even more problems 
Prolly shouldn't have ever gone to college in the first place.

Whil


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Re: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!

[Ed Leafe]

On Jan 15, 2007, at 3:54 AM, Tristan Leask wrote:

> Oh dear.

I've looked around the site, and apparently it's a PocketPC site  
that had posted a way to copy the look of iPhone to a PocketPC. They  
weren't just showing pictures, but rather were copying the iPhone  
images.

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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Ed Leafe]

On Jan 15, 2007, at 10:52 AM, Bill Arnold wrote:

>> No. The war ended almost 4 years ago. We are an
>> occupying army now.
>
> We don't understand or respect our enemy.

We should be able to understand that they aren't that different from  
us when it comes to dealing with an occupying army. Imagine being in  
the same situation: don't you think that, no matter how nice and  
sweet the intentions of the occupiers were, that every patriotic  
American would be doing anything they could to attack them? To drive  
them out? To take back our country from this occupying force?

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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Leland Jackson]

Below is the Neoconservative National Anthem from Notable Quotes:

#
No one likes us. I don't know why. We may not be perfect, We give them 
money, But heaven knows we try. But are they grateful? But all around, 
No, they're spiteful, Even our old friends put us down. And they're 
hateful. Let's drop the big one, They don't respect us, And see what 
happens. So let's surprise them We'll drop the big one, And pulverize 
'em. Asia's crowded, Europe's too old, Africa is far too hot, We'll save 
Australia. And Canada's too cold. Don't wanna hurt no kangaroos. And 
South America stole our name We'll build an All-American amusement Let's 
drop the big one, park there-- There'll be no one left to blame us. They 
got surfin', too! Boom! goes London, And Boom! Paree. More room for you, 
Oh, how peaceful it'll be! And more room for me, We'll set everybody 
free! And every city, You'll wear a Japanese kimono, babe; The whole 
world round, There'll be Italian shoes for me! Will just be another 
American town. They all hate us anyhow, So, let's drop the big one now. 
Let's drop the big one now! -- Randy Newman, "Drop the Big One"

#--

Regards,

LelandJ

Bill Arnold wrote:

>We're at war today, and I believe it's in large measure due to the
>influence of 'Soliders of Israel' in our gov't and media. They've teamed
>up with bedfellows in Big Oil and the MI Complex to pull off "The most
>dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since Vietnam," as Sen
>Hagel put it.
>
>I think we have yet to fully appreciate the depth of what they've done -
>that this war is more of a go-for-broke proposition then Vietnam ever
>was. If we don't stop them, they'll keep steering us into a storm that
>will make war in Vietnam look like a sun shower.
>
>This war isn't about Iraq, Afghanistan, or even Iran; and it's not about
>terrorism (which is nothing more or less then a tactic), it's about
>authority in the ME - something that we will *never* achieve, yet they
>are dedicated to exactly that cause, and they've managed to sucker many
>Mr & Mrs Smith's into sending their children to kill and die for their
>cause - not to mention the staggering debt and transfer of still more
>money-thus-power to the MI Complex and Big Oil.
>
>Distilled to a word, this is about attitudes. Their attitude - and the
>attitude of our gov't under their influence - is foreign and anathema to
>the core values that - I thought - made America great. For example, all
>that's being done in the name of 'security' is the exact opposite of
>what should be done in the name of 'freedom'. Soon we'll have less
>privacy then we could have ever imagined, and more people around the
>world hating us then we can live with. Then, when everything is said and
>done, and someone finally asks "what happened?", the one-word answer
>will be "attitude".
>
>If we really want to fix this problem before they make it worse, we'll
>put the neocon gang on trial for war crimes and get people into
>Washington that care about THIS country. And, yes, it is criminal to
>dupe a nation into war. There was no "faulty intelligence", there was
>deceit.
>
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>  
>
>>Ricardo,
>>
>>Haven't you worked out yet that in Michaels mind, if you 
>>criticize anything to do with Israel you are a Jew Hater. 
>>Likewise were you to criticize GWB's tie then you'd be a 
>>traitor, were you to be American Citizen. If you criticicized 
>>and are not a US citizen then you're a terrorist.
>>
>>::a
>>
>>PS He doesn't know the definition of liberal either.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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RE: Showing the time only portion of a VFP datetime field in a gridcolumn

[Dave Crozier]

Michael,

Controlsource="=Substr(Transform(Datetime()),12)"

Dave Crozier

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To: Profox
Subject: Showing the time only portion of a VFP datetime field in a
gridcolumn

VFP8 SP1 -- I've got a datetime field that is essentially used to store 
start/stop times.  I want to only show the time portion in the grid 
column.  The source for the grid is a view.  I'm thinking I should just 
create a field in the view with the TTOC(tField,2) expression. 

Does anyone have a better idea?

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Re: MSDN Path to Product Key?

[Kevin Cully]

* XP Is full installed
* 63 patches installed
* VFP Installed with SP1 installed

... and it's pretty peppy!  My vfp benchmarks are showing that it's
about twice as fast inside of VMware with XP on my Duo Core 2 1.8GHz
than my XP P4 2.4GHz.  Of course, I'm not running virus protection,
firewall, or adware either.  And it hasn't had a chance to slow down
over the years of registry abuse. 

I'm going to keep doing my major VFP development on the P4.  It's nice
to know that VFP is there for me when I visit a client.

Kevin Cully wrote:
> Whew.  I think I finally figured it out.  I had to associate my Partner
> program subscription with the MSDN thingie and then all sorts of other
> things showed up.  One of them allowed me to get product keys.
> 
> Confusing as heck!
> 
> Thanks Rodney!
> 
> Rodney Dixon wrote:
>> 1.  Go to http://msdn.microsoft.com
>>
>> 2.  There should be a link almost at the top on the right hand side
>> named Manage My Subscriptions, click on this.  Do you Passport stuff if
>> necessary.
>>
>> 3.  You should be on the MSDN Subscription Management page.  The first
>> link should be Subscriber Downloads and Product Keys.
>>
>> I can't go any farther than that because it seems that my employer has
>> let my subscription expire.  But, that should get you close enough to
>> where you can view/request the needed installation keys.
>>
>> Regards
>> Rodney
>>
> 
> 
> 
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Showing the time only portion of a VFP datetime field in a grid column

[MB Software Solutions]

VFP8 SP1 -- I've got a datetime field that is essentially used to store 
start/stop times.  I want to only show the time portion in the grid 
column.  The source for the grid is a view.  I'm thinking I should just 
create a field in the view with the TTOC(tField,2) expression. 

Does anyone have a better idea?

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Re: MSDN Path to Product Key?

[Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh]

On Jan 15, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote:

> turns out the data entry
> idiots at MSFT spelled my name wrong - despite the fact that my email
> address, with my name in it, was the next item to enter.

Did they see "Whil" and oh-so-helpfully "correct" it for you? I  
suppose that there are at least a few folks who would assume _you_  
made a data entry error, just because they hadn't seen it before. How  
many variations of "Whil" do you get?

I admit that I did a triple take on it the first time I saw it. (Then  
again, etching in stone isn't usually as prone to errors as plain ol'  
typing!)

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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Helio W.]

Wrong show. You should watch Battlestar Galactica.

On 1/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> one thing I do agree with bill on
> if you watched 24 last night there is a guy taking all rights away
> forget his name, just look for the weasel


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RE: MSDN Path to Product Key?

[Rodney Dixon]

LOL

Regards
Rodney

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Ted Roche
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 11:12 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: MSDN Path to Product Key?
> 
> On 1/15/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Quality is Job 1.1 over there
> >
> 
> Well, it was supposed to be in Job 1.1, but it didn't make the cut:
> when Job 1.1 was due to ship, Microsoft decided that Quality didn't
> meet its standards, so it has been deferred to Job 1.1 Service Pack 2,
> which Microsoft says should be ready first half of 2005, er, 2006, no,
> 2007...
> --
> Ted Roche
> Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
> http://www.tedroche.com
> 
> 
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Re: MSDN Path to Product Key?

[Ted Roche]

On 1/15/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Quality is Job 1.1 over there
>

Well, it was supposed to be in Job 1.1, but it didn't make the cut:
when Job 1.1 was due to ship, Microsoft decided that Quality didn't
meet its standards, so it has been deferred to Job 1.1 Service Pack 2,
which Microsoft says should be ready first half of 2005, er, 2006, no,
2007...
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Re: MSDN Path to Product Key?

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

Rodney Dixon wrote:
> I ran into that same problem when I went from a subscription that was
> individually purchased to one that was on a volume license.  It took
> several attempts to get it associated correctly with my Passport.  I
> just love the way MS makes things "simple"

I ran into similar problems when I entered my name to associate my 
Passport, it kept telling me it was invalid... turns out the data entry 
idiots at MSFT spelled my name wrong - despite the fact that my email 
address, with my name in it, was the next item to enter.

Quality is Job 1.1 over there

Whil

> Regards
> Rodney
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Kevin Cully
>> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:15 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: MSDN Path to Product Key?
>>
>> Whew.  I think I finally figured it out.  I had to associate my
> Partner
>> program subscription with the MSDN thingie and then all sorts of other
>> things showed up.  One of them allowed me to get product keys.
>>
>> Confusing as heck!
>>
>> Thanks Rodney!
>>
>> Rodney Dixon wrote:
>>> 1.  Go to http://msdn.microsoft.com
>>>
>>> 2.  There should be a link almost at the top on the right hand side
>>> named Manage My Subscriptions, click on this.  Do you Passport stuff
> if
>>> necessary.
>>>
>>> 3.  You should be on the MSDN Subscription Management page.  The
> first
>>> link should be Subscriber Downloads and Product Keys.
>>>
>>> I can't go any farther than that because it seems that my employer
> has
>>> let my subscription expire.  But, that should get you close enough
> to
>>> where you can view/request the needed installation keys.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Rodney
>>>
>>
>>
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RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Bill Arnold]

> > We're at war today
> 
>   No. The war ended almost 4 years ago. We are an 
> occupying army now.


We've got our finger stuck in Muslim/Arab eyes, and we're one more
serious attack away from a far deeper appreciation of what's been
wrought on us by the warmongers occupying our capital and information
supply.

We don't understand or respect our enemy. Despite all the lessons of
history, we've been led to believe that all we have to do is send in the
Marines and our enemies will cower under our "shock and awe". What
actually happened on the way to that throne is already history; what
happens next is anyone's guess, but by now we should already know it's
not going to be the grand and glorious victory-over-evil bill of goods
we've been sold on.

Decades ago, we went through the Cuban missile crisis, and a brush with
disaster the likes of which we still can't imagine, yet with that
experience solidly under our belt, we have not taken the steps necessary
to prevent that possibility from ever happening again - instead we did
the opposite: more weapons, more bombs, more shock and awe - and more
belligerence.

What will it take for us to finally learn that war in the nuclear age is
not an option? Why can't we grasp a simple truth: that when we disagree
with the rulers of another country, the solution isn't to kill or starve
all the people in that country, who were just victims themselves, but to
use national and international diplomacy to deal with the errant ruler?
We are aware that those "bunker-busters" being readied for Iran are
actually nuclear weapons, right?

I know - these are all statements of the obvious, and shouldn't even
have to be said, but here we are today, closer to nightmare scenarios at
home (Big Brother) and abroad (war) then we could have imagined not too
many years ago. The scariest part isn't what's happening already, but
what is very likely to happen next if we don't do what we have to do.
We, the American people, didn't bring this on, it was done for us, by
that gang and their cohorts. They're not telling us this, but I'll say
it: we need to choose between their attitude and their direction - and
the principles we want to live by. 



Bill





 
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RE: MSDN Path to Product Key?

[Rodney Dixon]

I ran into that same problem when I went from a subscription that was
individually purchased to one that was on a volume license.  It took
several attempts to get it associated correctly with my Passport.  I
just love the way MS makes things "simple"

Regards
Rodney

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Kevin Cully
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:15 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: MSDN Path to Product Key?
> 
> Whew.  I think I finally figured it out.  I had to associate my
Partner
> program subscription with the MSDN thingie and then all sorts of other
> things showed up.  One of them allowed me to get product keys.
> 
> Confusing as heck!
> 
> Thanks Rodney!
> 
> Rodney Dixon wrote:
> > 1.  Go to http://msdn.microsoft.com
> >
> > 2.  There should be a link almost at the top on the right hand side
> > named Manage My Subscriptions, click on this.  Do you Passport stuff
if
> > necessary.
> >
> > 3.  You should be on the MSDN Subscription Management page.  The
first
> > link should be Subscriber Downloads and Product Keys.
> >
> > I can't go any farther than that because it seems that my employer
has
> > let my subscription expire.  But, that should get you close enough
to
> > where you can view/request the needed installation keys.
> >
> > Regards
> > Rodney
> >
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?

[Hal Kaplan]

=> 
=> Steve will be going in about a month from now for a hip 
=> replacement on his right hip. We do seem to be getting the 
=> care we need after a few false starts here and there, but we 
=> also wonder about what it would be like if we weren't so 
=> pushy about making sure we got it.
=> 
=> Kristyne McDaniel
=>

I hope all goes well.  Fortunately that is not an uncommon procedure so the 
odds are well in your favor for a complete and successful recovery.  As far as 
what would happen if you weren't so pushy ... you're intelligent and savvy, I 
think you know the answer to that question.  Medical attention is like anything 
else that you buy.  Caveat emptor.

B+
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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[vbiersch]

let's hope you're right and I'm wrong
-Original Message-

From:  Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On Jan 15, 2007, at 9:50 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> you don't know that for a fact

Two words: Mission Accomplished.

> I believe its just a matter of time before new york is hit again

Hey, I believe that it's just a matter of time until the Packers win  
the Super Bowl.

See, I can throw out irrelevant predictions, too.

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Re: MSDN Path to Product Key?

[Kevin Cully]

Whew.  I think I finally figured it out.  I had to associate my Partner
program subscription with the MSDN thingie and then all sorts of other
things showed up.  One of them allowed me to get product keys.

Confusing as heck!

Thanks Rodney!

Rodney Dixon wrote:
> 1.  Go to http://msdn.microsoft.com
> 
> 2.  There should be a link almost at the top on the right hand side
> named Manage My Subscriptions, click on this.  Do you Passport stuff if
> necessary.
> 
> 3.  You should be on the MSDN Subscription Management page.  The first
> link should be Subscriber Downloads and Product Keys.
> 
> I can't go any farther than that because it seems that my employer has
> let my subscription expire.  But, that should get you close enough to
> where you can view/request the needed installation keys.
> 
> Regards
> Rodney
> 



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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Ed Leafe]

On Jan 15, 2007, at 9:50 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> you don't know that for a fact

Two words: Mission Accomplished.

> I believe its just a matter of time before new york is hit again

Hey, I believe that it's just a matter of time until the Packers win  
the Super Bowl.

See, I can throw out irrelevant predictions, too.

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RE: MSDN Path to Product Key?

[Rodney Dixon]

1.  Go to http://msdn.microsoft.com

2.  There should be a link almost at the top on the right hand side
named Manage My Subscriptions, click on this.  Do you Passport stuff if
necessary.

3.  You should be on the MSDN Subscription Management page.  The first
link should be Subscriber Downloads and Product Keys.

I can't go any farther than that because it seems that my employer has
let my subscription expire.  But, that should get you close enough to
where you can view/request the needed installation keys.

Regards
Rodney

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Kevin Cully
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:14 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: MSDN Path to Product Key?
> 
> I've received my DVDs for the M$ Empower program (MSDN) and I'm trying
> to install XP inside of VMware on my Linux laptop.  All is going well
> until ... I have to enter the product key.  They gave me a card with
> several product keys but not for any of the XP OSs.  The card states
to
> do this and that and to click the "Request Keys" button.  I have yet
to
> find it.  The instructions don't match the web site, of course.  I
> called the 800 number but it's a holiday today.
> 
> Could someone provide me with a walk through of the web site on how to
> get the product keys?
> 
> If only there was an OS where it didn't need a product key to get it
> installed and working!!!  
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[vbiersch]

you don't know that for a fact
I believe its just a matter of time before new york is hit again

one thing I do agree with bill on
if you watched 24 last night there is a guy taking all rights away
forget his name, just look for the weasel
-Original Message-

From:  Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On Jan 15, 2007, at 9:04 AM, Bill Arnold wrote:

> We're at war today

No. The war ended almost 4 years ago. We are an occupying army now.

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Re: Returned Messages From Profox

[Ed Leafe]

On Jan 15, 2007, at 2:44 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:

> Today I received 2 x "failed message" email regarding messages that  
> I sent
> to Profox some time ago and which appeared correctly on the List  
> some time
> ago.
>
> Has anyone else had this happen?

I'm not sure, but if one of the subscriber's ISP actively bounces an  
email, my server will forward the bounce to the originator. I get  
them occasionally when I post to the list, too, so it isn't just  
picking on you.

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Re: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!

[Ed Leafe]

On Jan 15, 2007, at 3:54 AM, Tristan Leask wrote:

> I wonder if Ed has had an email from Apple about this post?

Why would they write to me?

> http://www.modaco.com/index.php? 
> s=0cc2b08f572c749e2acefd4d30ef1f41&showt
> opic=251112
>
> "We represent Apple Computer, Inc. ("Apple") and are authorized to act
> on Apple's behalf to investigate and take legal action with respect to
> the unauthorized dissemination of Apple's copyrighted material"
>
> Oh dear.

What, did you think that Apple's lawyers are nice?

Apple Legal is nearly as evil as Microsoft Legal. They're lawyers,  
every one.

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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Ed Leafe]

On Jan 15, 2007, at 9:04 AM, Bill Arnold wrote:

> We're at war today

No. The war ended almost 4 years ago. We are an occupying army now.

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MSDN Path to Product Key?

[Kevin Cully]

I've received my DVDs for the M$ Empower program (MSDN) and I'm trying
to install XP inside of VMware on my Linux laptop.  All is going well
until ... I have to enter the product key.  They gave me a card with
several product keys but not for any of the XP OSs.  The card states to
do this and that and to click the "Request Keys" button.  I have yet to
find it.  The instructions don't match the web site, of course.  I
called the 800 number but it's a holiday today.

Could someone provide me with a walk through of the web site on how to
get the product keys?

If only there was an OS where it didn't need a product key to get it
installed and working!!!  



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RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Bill Arnold]

We're at war today, and I believe it's in large measure due to the
influence of 'Soliders of Israel' in our gov't and media. They've teamed
up with bedfellows in Big Oil and the MI Complex to pull off "The most
dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since Vietnam," as Sen
Hagel put it.

I think we have yet to fully appreciate the depth of what they've done -
that this war is more of a go-for-broke proposition then Vietnam ever
was. If we don't stop them, they'll keep steering us into a storm that
will make war in Vietnam look like a sun shower.

This war isn't about Iraq, Afghanistan, or even Iran; and it's not about
terrorism (which is nothing more or less then a tactic), it's about
authority in the ME - something that we will *never* achieve, yet they
are dedicated to exactly that cause, and they've managed to sucker many
Mr & Mrs Smith's into sending their children to kill and die for their
cause - not to mention the staggering debt and transfer of still more
money-thus-power to the MI Complex and Big Oil.

Distilled to a word, this is about attitudes. Their attitude - and the
attitude of our gov't under their influence - is foreign and anathema to
the core values that - I thought - made America great. For example, all
that's being done in the name of 'security' is the exact opposite of
what should be done in the name of 'freedom'. Soon we'll have less
privacy then we could have ever imagined, and more people around the
world hating us then we can live with. Then, when everything is said and
done, and someone finally asks "what happened?", the one-word answer
will be "attitude".

If we really want to fix this problem before they make it worse, we'll
put the neocon gang on trial for war crimes and get people into
Washington that care about THIS country. And, yes, it is criminal to
dupe a nation into war. There was no "faulty intelligence", there was
deceit.


Bill



> Ricardo,
> 
> Haven't you worked out yet that in Michaels mind, if you 
> criticize anything to do with Israel you are a Jew Hater. 
> Likewise were you to criticize GWB's tie then you'd be a 
> traitor, were you to be American Citizen. If you criticicized 
> and are not a US citizen then you're a terrorist.
> 
> ::a
> 
> PS He doesn't know the definition of liberal either.
> 
> 



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Re: [OT] No, Bush is the new Keating

[vbiersch]

based on what I'm reading here you would advocate giving up before you even got 
started

granted its a fine line but most people give up when they're nearly there

kind of like the old saying
its allways darkest before the dawn

-Original Message-

From:  Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subj:  [OT] No, Bush is the new Keating
Date:  Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:34 am
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To:  ProFox Mailing List 

http://welcome-to-pottersville.blogspot.com/2007/01/paul-krugman- 
texas-strategy
( -or- http://tinyurl.com/yzdwkw )

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Hundreds of news articles and opinion pieces have described President  
Bush’s decision to escalate the Iraq war as a “Hail Mary pass.”

But that’s the wrong metaphor.

Mr. Bush isn’t Roger Staubach, trying to pull out a win for the  
Dallas Cowboys. He’s Charles Keating, using other people’s money to  
keep Lincoln Savings going long after it should have been shut down —  
and squandering the life savings of thousands of investors, not to  
mention billions in taxpayer dollars, along the way.

The parallel is actually quite exact. During the savings and loan  
scandal of the 1980s, people like Mr. Keating kept failed banks going  
by faking financial success. Mr. Bush has kept a failed war going by  
faking military success.

The “surge” is just another stalling tactic, designed to buy more time.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

-- Ed Leafe
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[OT] No, Bush is the new Keating

[Ed Leafe]

http://welcome-to-pottersville.blogspot.com/2007/01/paul-krugman- 
texas-strategy
( -or- http://tinyurl.com/yzdwkw )

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Hundreds of news articles and opinion pieces have described President  
Bush’s decision to escalate the Iraq war as a “Hail Mary pass.”

But that’s the wrong metaphor.

Mr. Bush isn’t Roger Staubach, trying to pull out a win for the  
Dallas Cowboys. He’s Charles Keating, using other people’s money to  
keep Lincoln Savings going long after it should have been shut down —  
and squandering the life savings of thousands of investors, not to  
mention billions in taxpayer dollars, along the way.

The parallel is actually quite exact. During the savings and loan  
scandal of the 1980s, people like Mr. Keating kept failed banks going  
by faking financial success. Mr. Bush has kept a failed war going by  
faking military success.

The “surge” is just another stalling tactic, designed to buy more time.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

-- Ed Leafe
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Re: Returned Messages From Profox

[Kevin Cully]

I received one this morning from a post I made several days ago.

Dave Crozier wrote:
> Today I received 2 x "failed message" email regarding messages that I sent
> to Profox some time ago and which appeared correctly on the List some time
> ago.
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> Has anyone else had this happen?
> 



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Re: Returned Messages From Profox

[Paul Hill]

On 1/15/07, Dave Crozier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Today I received 2 x "failed message" email regarding messages that I sent
> to Profox some time ago and which appeared correctly on the List some time
> ago.
>
> Has anyone else had this happen?

I got one a few days ago.  The post definately made it because there
were replies...

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Re: Weird menu effect for SkipFor clause (VFP8 SP1)

[Peter Cushing]

MB Software Solutions wrote:
> I've got some "future online" menu options that I disabled with a "1=1" 
> in the SkipFor clause.  Yet my tester is still able to run that menu 
> option when he does his testing??!?!??? 
>
> Anyone else encounter something like this?
>
>   
The only odd thing I've had to do with skipping menus was when having 
say a public var ps_edit and I would put skip for !ps_edit in the 
expression.  This did not work for some reason but skip for ps_edit = 
.f. did work.  Don't know why but as long as it works!

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RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

[Alan Bourke]

On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:28:37 -0500, "Hal Kaplan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> However could you please provide a
> definition for ...
> 
> FIDDLINESS

Fiddly (Adjective) Awkward to do or use, requiring a degree of manual
dexterity

> 
> FURTLE
> 

Well, I used it in the South Yorkshire context of "messing around with,
possibly in a furtive manner". However there is another very hilarious
usage of an adult nature. 
-- 
  Alan Bourke
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RE: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Adam Buckland]

Ricardo,

Haven't you worked out yet that in Michaels mind, if you criticize anything to 
do with Israel you are a Jew Hater. Likewise were you to criticize GWB's tie 
then you'd be a traitor, were you to be American Citizen. If you criticicized 
and are not a US citizen then you're a terrorist.

::a

PS He doesn't know the definition of liberal either.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz
Sent: 15 January 2007 09:16
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

Michael Madigan wrote:
> Of course the dirty Arabs attacked Israel on a Jewish
> holy day.  But of course a Jew-hater like you would
> conveniently forget that.
> 

Did you mean to say Israeli-hater? Can you perceive the difference?

> 
> 
> --- Bill Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> It wouldn't matter to us much if they didn't
>> control a commodity
>> that
> the whole world has developed a dependence on.
> Oil When OPEC decided to flex their muscle in
>> the mid 70's, it sent
>> shock 
> waves through out the entire world economically
>> speaking. Double 
> digit inflation, double digit unemployment and
>> the deepest economic
>>
> problems that the U.S. had faced since the
>> great depression. 

 Yup, that really sucked.

>>>
>>> You seem to forget that was due to the fact that
>> USA broke 
>>> the Bretton Woods agreement which stated that
>> dollar was to 
>>> be tied to gold reserves in USA. The dollar
>> stopped being 
>>> backed by gold, it started devaluating and the
>> OPEC took action.
>>
>>
>> The 1973 oil crisis first began on October 17, 1973
>> when the
>> Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries
>> (OAPEC), consisting
>> of the Arab members of Organization of Petroleum
>> Exporting
>> Countries(OPEC) plus Egypt and Syria, announced as a
>> result of the
>> ongoing Yom Kippur War, that they would no longer
>> ship petroleum to
>> nations that had supported Israel in its conflict
>> with Syria and Egypt.
>> This included the United States and its allies in
>> Western Europe.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
>>
>> But on October 17, OPEC struck back against the West
>> by imposing an oil
>> embargo on the U.S., while increasing prices by 70%
>> to America's Western
>> European allies. Overnight, the price of a barrel of
>> oil to these
>> nations rose from $3 to $5.11. [In January 1974,
>> they raised it further
>> to $11.65.] The U.S. and the Netherlands, in
>> particular, were singled
>> out for their support of Israel in the war.
>>
> http://www.buyandhold.com/bh/en/education/history/2002/arab.html
>> The embargo was applied to oil-importing countries
>> on a sliding scale
>> depending on each country's relationship with
>> Israel. The United States,
>> the Netherlands, and South Africa were Israel's
>> strongest supporters and
>> thus bore the brunt of the embargo-a total ban on
>> the shipment of Arab
>> oil.
>>
> http://www.referenceforbusiness.com/encyclopedia/Oli-Per/Organization-of
>> -Petroleum-Exporting-Countries-OPEC.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>


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Re: [OT] the root of our problem

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Pete Theisen wrote:
> On Saturday 13 January 2007 8:46 am, Bill Arnold wrote:
>> A major example of what I'm saying, which I should have mentioned, is
>> Bush's recent speech.
>>
>> While listening to it, I found myself really wanting that, for each
>> point he made, equal space existed - in that same space - for
>> counter-points.
> 
> Hi Bill!
> 
> Oh, that's right. That you are the status to debate Bush.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Pete
> 

Yeah Bill! You should get a lobotomy first.




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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> Of course the dirty Arabs attacked Israel on a Jewish
> holy day.  But of course a Jew-hater like you would
> conveniently forget that.
> 

Did you mean to say Israeli-hater? Can you perceive the difference?

> 
> 
> --- Bill Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> It wouldn't matter to us much if they didn't
>> control a commodity
>> that
> the whole world has developed a dependence on.
> Oil When OPEC decided to flex their muscle in
>> the mid 70's, it sent
>> shock 
> waves through out the entire world economically
>> speaking. Double 
> digit inflation, double digit unemployment and
>> the deepest economic
>>
> problems that the U.S. had faced since the
>> great depression. 

 Yup, that really sucked.

>>>
>>> You seem to forget that was due to the fact that
>> USA broke 
>>> the Bretton Woods agreement which stated that
>> dollar was to 
>>> be tied to gold reserves in USA. The dollar
>> stopped being 
>>> backed by gold, it started devaluating and the
>> OPEC took action.
>>
>>
>> The 1973 oil crisis first began on October 17, 1973
>> when the
>> Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries
>> (OAPEC), consisting
>> of the Arab members of Organization of Petroleum
>> Exporting
>> Countries(OPEC) plus Egypt and Syria, announced as a
>> result of the
>> ongoing Yom Kippur War, that they would no longer
>> ship petroleum to
>> nations that had supported Israel in its conflict
>> with Syria and Egypt.
>> This included the United States and its allies in
>> Western Europe.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
>>
>> But on October 17, OPEC struck back against the West
>> by imposing an oil
>> embargo on the U.S., while increasing prices by 70%
>> to America's Western
>> European allies. Overnight, the price of a barrel of
>> oil to these
>> nations rose from $3 to $5.11. [In January 1974,
>> they raised it further
>> to $11.65.] The U.S. and the Netherlands, in
>> particular, were singled
>> out for their support of Israel in the war.
>>
> http://www.buyandhold.com/bh/en/education/history/2002/arab.html
>> The embargo was applied to oil-importing countries
>> on a sliding scale
>> depending on each country's relationship with
>> Israel. The United States,
>> the Netherlands, and South Africa were Israel's
>> strongest supporters and
>> thus bore the brunt of the embargo-a total ban on
>> the shipment of Arab
>> oil.
>>
> http://www.referenceforbusiness.com/encyclopedia/Oli-Per/Organization-of
>> -Petroleum-Exporting-Countries-OPEC.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>


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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Michael Madigan wrote:
> Retard,
> 
> Where did I say deport?  I said they would obviously
> be more happy in another country.  Maybe they can all
> go to Argentina where all the other Nazis went.
> 

Nah! We are all retards around here. Ask your SS (a.k.a. secret service).

> 
> 
> --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>>> Thanks Jeff.
>>>
>>> Sometimes you wonder if some of the people on this
>>> list wouldn't enjoy the rest of their life better
>> in
>>> some other country.  What's keeping them here? 
>> Isn't
>>> it immoral for them to remain in such a terrible
>>> place?  I think maybe they should move to France.
>>>
>>>
>> I wonder what you'll have to say about my post. At
>> least you won't be
>> telling me to go live somewhere else hahaha.
>>
>> BTW, what happened with the land of the free? Are
>> you now deporting
>> those who don't follow Big Brother's line of
>> thought?
>>
>>


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Re: [OT] Bush challenges war critics to offer own plan

[Ricardo Aráoz]

Pete Theisen wrote:
> On Sunday 14 January 2007 3:07 pm, Bill Arnold wrote:
> 
>> The only real way to stop them is to stop people from wanting to use
>> them.
> 
> Hi Bill!
> 
> That is called "appeasement" Never worked.

Wow! And you know the 'correct' word. How's that called?
Anyway, if you know it is called 'appeasement' you MUST be right.



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RE: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!

[Tristan Leask]

I wonder if Ed has had an email from Apple about this post?

http://www.modaco.com/index.php?s=0cc2b08f572c749e2acefd4d30ef1f41&showt
opic=251112

"We represent Apple Computer, Inc. ("Apple") and are authorized to act
on Apple's behalf to investigate and take legal action with respect to
the unauthorized dissemination of Apple's copyrighted material"

Oh dear.

Tristan


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Posted At: 12 January 2007 01:16
Posted To: Profox Archive
Conversation: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!
Subject: RE: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!

I think I spy an iPhoney
Jim

 -Original Message-
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Behalf
Of Tristan Leask
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http://www.tleask.plus.com/iphone.bmp

And here is the post with the plugins...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1097832&postcount=70

Tristan

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Subject: RE: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!

Doh, hang on

Tristan



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