Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!
The real reason is that programming is an art, not a science... Can't certify art... Dave Crozier wrote: Hal wrote: ...A thorough understanding of algorithmic principles, database, some math, regression, ETHICS, etc. is what should qualify someone to be a computer professional TOTALLY WRONG Hal I'm afraid. The thing that qualifies someone to be a computer professional in its true sense (where software is concerned anyhow) is the ability to write GOOD software, and the definition of good will change depending upon the environment you are working in. Good in an emergency situation is a fix that works and gets the system live again however it is done. Good in a production environment means reliable and stable. Good in a performance dictated situation means fast and reliable. It's just like driving. All drivers make mistakes, the difference between a good driver and a bad driver is that the good driver will always know whenever he/she has made a mistake and the majority of outsiders/onlookers will never ever notice the mistake. The bad driver is just a danger to others because he doesn't understand the ramification(s) of making a mistake - or even worse, what a mistake constitutes. Remember you don’t have to be able to read music to be a great musician. I'll take natural talent as opposed to paper qualifications any day of the week. Try and teach dancing to someone who has no sense of rhythm and you'll see exactly what I mean. Having all the paper qualifications only gives you a head start in the ability to understand basic methodology but there is absolutely NO substitute for experience and natural ability in this business. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Kaplan Sent: 17 January 2007 20:55 To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty! = And the second problem is that all of the folks in the biz = would want to be grandfathered in. Who in their right mind = would submit to having to gain credentials (that they may or = may not be qualified to earn) to do what they've been doing = for the last 10 or 20 years? = = So, just like the answer about how God created the world in = 6 days = He didn't have to worry about the installed base. = = Whil = During those 6 days, G-d did not create the AMA, ABA, AIA, AICPA, or any other professional group except perhaps for clergy. The installed base existed for all of these professions and it is now all a matter of history. Some practioners fared better than others but on the whole society gained. BTW, you do not need a degree in architecture to be an architect, or a law degree to be an attorney (I am not sure about medicine and accounting). You can become a licensed professional through well-documented experience. Of course you still need to take and pass the state licensing exam. And I dare say that if a similarly-structured arrangement existed for people like us, a good number would pass the exam and gain grandfather status, others would fail, and still others would walk away or do nothing because the effective date for all of the lead-ins to congeal would probably be 6 to 10 years off. What is needed to achieve widespread licensing is a catalyst such as a massive lapse of public safety or security that could be laid at the feet of the profession as it exists today. There are no questions of impartiality or any nonsense like that. Those arguments are specious. All professions have competing suppliers who will do almost anything to get and keep business ... ruthlessly and illegally too! But the basics of these professions: the chemistry of life, anatomy, legal precedent, torts, etc. are independent of commercialism. Intel and AMD may be making a lot of bits, but they did not invent them. A thorough understanding of algorithmic principles, database, some math, regression, ETHICS, etc. is what should qualify someone to be a computer professional. B+ HALinNY [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Virgin birth again.....
Laugh it up baby! Your clock is ticking. --- Helio W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps the birth of a female chimpanzee prophet? On 1/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/01/17/pregnant.chimp.ap/index.html or http://tinyurl.com/2xtqup A female chimpanzee at a sanctuary has given birth, despite the fact that the facility's entire male chimp population has had vasectomies. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Loading Ubuntu now even easier
You can al try Ubuntu now even if you don't have a distribution PC. The latest Ubuntu Project Install.exe allows you to install Ubuntu on the fly assuming you have a broadband link with minimal intervention. http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/17/ubuntu-installation-now-easier-than- ever-in-windows/ or http://tinyurl.com/3duhkt ...This project aims to solve this problem by allowing installation from within Windows using an install.exe file, and eliminating the need to partition the hard drive or burn a CD to install. It will allow a faster and more user-friendly installation for Windows users, the ability to install without the risk of data loss through repartitioning, and the ability to install on ultra-portable laptops without CD drives Simple and fast installation No-risk installation No repartitioning the hard disk No changing the Windows boot loader Easy uninstallation Doesn't use a virtual machine Doesn't significantly reduce performance of the resulting installation Resulting installation supports everything a normal install does. Dave Crozier ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Loading Ubuntu now even easier
Have they finally got it working for Wifi connections using WPA? That was my main gripe about the last couple of versions. Wifi WPA didn't work out of the box for me. Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Posted At: 18 January 2007 08:59 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: [NF] Loading Ubuntu now even easier Subject: [NF] Loading Ubuntu now even easier You can al try Ubuntu now even if you don't have a distribution PC. The latest Ubuntu Project Install.exe allows you to install Ubuntu on the fly assuming you have a broadband link with minimal intervention. Dave Crozier -- This email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless otherwise agreed expressly in writing by Marine Software Limited, this communication and attachments are to be treated as confidential and the information in it may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it was sent. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication you should destroy it without copying, disclosing or otherwise using its contents. Please notify the sender immediately of the error. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marine Software Limited. Registered in England Wales. No 2576494 Regsitered Office. Unit3, Aylesham Business Pk, Aylesham. Kent. UK -- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: FoxPro on Vista
Thanks Rick For some reason my mails are not getting out very quick. So much for 1and1.co.uk service. Anyway, I have already mentioned the resolve for MSXML so I'm quite happy with it now. I will add the sedna2 later as I'm not really bothered by Vista's goodies yet. And I think most people are not stupid enough to put Vista on their work machine until at least the first SP :) Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Schummer Sent: 17 January 2007 17:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: FoxPro on Vista Allen, VFP7 moans about MSXML4 and the task manager does not work. Assuming you meant VFP 9, did you apply the SP2 CTP patch? I am not sure this fixes your problem or not, and if it does not I would report this to the VFP team via the Connect Web site (https://connect.microsoft.com/feedback/default.aspx?SiteID=210wa=wsignin1. 0) as a possible bug. As for the general complaining about Fox not working under Vista, this is one of the things Microsoft is working on for VFP 9 SP2 as stated in the roadmap. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 740 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.12/631 - Release Date: 16/01/2007 08:25 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!
computer professionals. Or imagine the converse: that doctors made their recommendations not on the best interests of the patient, but on what would generate the most revenue for the doctor himself ?? You don't think this is happening already? Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Loading Ubuntu now even easier
Tristan, Worked out of the box with my Gateway PC with no problems in V6 but I had to load the network drivers. Version 7 is due out shortly so that may solve your problem. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Leask Sent: 18 January 2007 09:02 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Loading Ubuntu now even easier Have they finally got it working for Wifi connections using WPA? That was my main gripe about the last couple of versions. Wifi WPA didn't work out of the box for me. Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Posted At: 18 January 2007 08:59 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: [NF] Loading Ubuntu now even easier Subject: [NF] Loading Ubuntu now even easier You can al try Ubuntu now even if you don't have a distribution PC. The latest Ubuntu Project Install.exe allows you to install Ubuntu on the fly assuming you have a broadband link with minimal intervention. Dave Crozier -- This email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless otherwise agreed expressly in writing by Marine Software Limited, this communication and attachments are to be treated as confidential and the information in it may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it was sent. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication you should destroy it without copying, disclosing or otherwise using its contents. Please notify the sender immediately of the error. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marine Software Limited. Registered in England Wales. No 2576494 Regsitered Office. Unit3, Aylesham Business Pk, Aylesham. Kent. UK -- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FoxPro on Vista
Hi Allen, We use 1and1 too. They seem to be having problems over the past few days. There are huge delays on all incomming email. On 1/18/07, Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Rick For some reason my mails are not getting out very quick. So much for 1and1.co.uk service. -- Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FoxPro on Vista
On Jan 18, 2007, at 5:48 AM, Paul Hill wrote: We use 1and1 too. They seem to be having problems over the past few days. There are huge delays on all incomming email. FWIW, I get a *ton* of spam from 1and1, as well as a lot of bot requests for accounts on OpenTech. Doesn't surprise me that this is coming back to bite them. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Index on collector tag collector unique
Michael Madigan wrote: Yep, you're right, I should have a collector database. This was a band-aid added quick and dirty. Turned out to be too dirty. Why not create it via a select distinct into a table and then just normalize your data? Probably a lot of work after you hit all your input forms as well as reports. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.14/636 - Release Date: 1/18/2007 4:00 AM ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: FoxPro on Vista
Hello Paul Its not the first time either. I have a lot of problems with them using mail, FrontPage to do the site and often clients say they cannot reach the web site/s. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hill Hi Allen, We use 1and1 too. They seem to be having problems over the past few days. There are huge delays on all incomming email. On 1/18/07, Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Rick For some reason my mails are not getting out very quick. So much for 1and1.co.uk service. -- Paul -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 753 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.14/636 - Release Date: 18/01/2007 04:00 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming Skeptics
When did the US get rid of free speech and dissenting opinion in a free and democratic society? Is this the continuation of McCarthyism, Gitmo and another tactic on the war in terrorism? Or did I miss something? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:44 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming Skeptics The liberals just love freedom of speech http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.BlogsContentRec ord_id=32abc0b0-802a-23ad-440a-88824bb8e528 Saddam - Hung for the Holidays http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming Skeptics
On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:58 AM, Alan Lukachko wrote: When did the US get rid of free speech and dissenting opinion in a free and democratic society? When we put the neo-conservatives in power. This made free speech, as well as the rest of our Bill of Rights, into something to be despised as 'weak' and 'liberal'. Is this the continuation of McCarthyism, Gitmo and another tactic on the war in terrorism? Or did I miss something? They are more scared about people telling the truth about what they are up to than they are about terrorism. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Cracking down on CEO salaries
Customers still do stick with you if you do good work and provide good service for them. Tomorrow, I'm going to a client that I first did work for in July, 1982. His business keeps growing and he keeps calling me back. First I developed an app with GW-BASIC, then FoxBase, then Visual FoxPro 3, 5 and now 9. At one point, he even lent me money during one of my drought periods. Today I'm going to a client that I've had since October, 1999. We started off in the wrong direction early on, but turned it around. Since then, we've always tried to develop the best system for their needs and nothing more. Sometimes I've suggested things that resulted in less money for us. Maybe that's part of why they stick with us. Next week I'm off to see a client that I've had since May 1990. Their sales were $5 million. By Feb, 2006, their sales were over $200 million. They were bought by a publicly traded company last year for $485 million. While there is more bureaucracy with the now public company, they still stick with me. There are other long time clients that continue to stick with us But then that maybe only a result of the Canadian business climate. Only in Canada you say? Pity! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:24 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Cracking down on CEO salaries On Wednesday 17 January 2007 2:46 pm, Michael Madigan wrote: Hi Michael! As you know I am getting up in years. I have had the experience of businesses and people doing right by me for a while and then slipping me the pickle once they had my trust. The last twenty years, I haven't trusted anyone. I also think it's a chicken and egg thing. I think the time when customers used to stick with one business because the service was that good, is long gone. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Determining the type of active index
Malcolm Greene wrote: There's also the new(?) binary indexes in VFP 9 that are even smaller/faster in some scenarios. Besides an index on DELETED( ), why would you use a binary index? An example please? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Easy way to count total lines of code in complete project?
Ted Roche wrote: On 1/16/07, MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an easy way to determine the total number of lines of code in an app/project? http://www.tedroche.com/Present/2000/ProjScan.zip Pretty self-documenting, the associated paper can be found at: http://www.tedroche.com/Present/2000/E-MAINTDoc.htm Thanks, Ted. But what are all of those strange question-mark-in-the-diamond boxes? A character that didn't translate well perhaps? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FoxPro on Vista
Malcolm Greene wrote: Cipher50 is simple encryption that's easy to break. Craig's encryption FLL supports major industry encryption standards (AES, Blowfish, RC4) in stream and block formats with support for various levels of encryption (128 bit +). There are easy to use functions for encrypting/decrypting strings and files. Craig has also included support for generating hashes (SHA, MD5, and RIPE formats). Thanks, Malcolm! -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Determining the type of active index
Micheal, Besides an index on DELETED( ), why would you use a binary index? An example please? Disclosure: I haven't personally used binary indexes. Possible uses: - male vs. female (I recognize this is no longer a binary conditiong) - test vs. production - active vs. non-active I think there was an article on binary indexes in a past FoxTalk issue - when FoxTalk was a REAL publication (don't get me started on THAT topic) Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FoxPro on Vista
Michael, Don't forget the 'marketing' pitch you can make regarding FAB's new INDUSTRY STANDARD encryption! Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] IPhone Manufacturers unfortunate name
Mmmm, Just found out the name of the company who will be making the IPhone. http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/jan2007/gb20070110_531125.htm? chan=tc or http://tinyurl.com/359su5 Quote: ...Hon Hai will assemble Apple's new wireless handset called the iPhone, a product launch that could energize the consumer electronics industry later this year And the secret revealed at last: ...Hon Hai, which operates under the trade name of FOXCONN... Maybe there is a connection with VFP somewhere or maybe the phone is secretly powered by the Mac version of VFPBG Dave Crozier ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Determining the type of active index
Malcolm Greene wrote: Micheal, Besides an index on DELETED( ), why would you use a binary index? An example please? Disclosure: I haven't personally used binary indexes. Possible uses: - male vs. female (I recognize this is no longer a binary conditiong) - test vs. production - active vs. non-active I think there was an article on binary indexes in a past FoxTalk issue - when FoxTalk was a REAL publication (don't get me started on THAT topic) So basically...it's for times where the choices are 1/0. (slapping forehead) Doh! Thanks, Mal! -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FoxPro on Vista
Malcolm Greene wrote: Michael, Don't forget the 'marketing' pitch you can make regarding FAB's new INDUSTRY STANDARD encryption! Note to self: mention Malcolm in the credits. g -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] IPhone Manufacturers unfortunate name
They make motherboards as well. Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Posted At: 18 January 2007 14:30 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: [NF] IPhone Manufacturers unfortunate name Subject: [NF] IPhone Manufacturers unfortunate name ...Hon Hai, which operates under the trade name of FOXCONN... -- This email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless otherwise agreed expressly in writing by Marine Software Limited, this communication and attachments are to be treated as confidential and the information in it may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it was sent. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication you should destroy it without copying, disclosing or otherwise using its contents. Please notify the sender immediately of the error. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marine Software Limited. Registered in England Wales. No 2576494 Regsitered Office. Unit3, Aylesham Business Pk, Aylesham. Kent. UK -- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Loading Ubuntu now even easier
Dave Crozier wrote: Tristan, Worked out of the box with my Gateway PC with no problems in V6 but I had to load the network drivers. I tried the latest version (as of 2 weeks ago), and it STILL won't mount my hard drives. It's weird. I only have this problem with Ubuntu, nothing else. I WANT to be able to wave the Ubuntu flag ,but... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FoxPro on Vista
Note to self: mention Malcolm in the credits. To hell with the credits, I'll be checking my mailbox for a royalty check ... gLMAO!g Seriously, a big thank you to Ed and this list would certainly be appropriate. Mal ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!
On 1/18/07, Dave Crozier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TOTALLY WRONG Hal I'm afraid. The thing that qualifies someone to be a computer professional in its true sense (where software is concerned anyhow) is the ability to write GOOD software, That's certainly one opinion. I think there are likely many different definitions, and that is one of the struggles groups like ACM have had in determining what they should be certifying. Some favor system software and admin, other computer science concepts like compiler design, still others more production-oriented issues faced by computer information systems professionals. I've tried to avoid generic certifications that want me to prove proficiency in Pascal, for example. Similarly, an A+ certification expects me to know the IRQ of COM1. My Mac, Amiga, SUN workstation and laptop don't have a COM1... -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!
On 1/18/07, Chet Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The real reason is that programming is an art, not a science... Can't certify art... Practitioners might argue that good practice of many professions qualify as art: medicine, law, plumbing, carpentry... basic proficiency and perhaps basic business skills and ethics ought to be testable, shouldn't they? -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Easy way to count total lines of code in complete project?
On 1/18/07, MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Ted. But what are all of those strange question-mark-in-the-diamond boxes? A character that didn't translate well perhaps? It's a bad Word-export-to-HTML, I suspect. View Source might tell you. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] IPhone Manufacturers unfortunate name
On Jan 18, 2007, at 9:30 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: Maybe there is a connection with VFP somewhere or maybe the phone is secretly powered by the Mac version of VFPBG VFP/Mac? Geez, that would mean that iPhone will be DOA and never supported by Apple, just as VFP/Mac was DOA and never supported by Microsoft. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FoxPro on Vista
Malcolm Greene wrote: Note to self: mention Malcolm in the credits. To hell with the credits, I'll be checking my mailbox for a royalty check ... gLMAO!g Seriously, a big thank you to Ed and this list would certainly be appropriate. Absolutely!! Ok, it's done, and will be included with future versions: http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com/images/fabmate_about.jpg -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Freak Accident
Check this out: turns out that Mother Nature is not a football fan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIKdK-T-jZM -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: FoxPro on Vista
On Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:16 AM Michael wrote: Ok, it's done, and will be included with future versions: http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com/images/fabmate_about.jpg Sure, give Ed a bigger ego than what he has already! :-) David L. Crooks ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Drew Speedie death ruled murder-suicide
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,650223251,00.html Wow, this is a real shock. I knew Drew and Brent pretty well, but not anywhere near close enough to comment on this ruling. All I can do is echo the sentiment of the lead investigator: This is an unpleasant thing, Smith said. Regardless of what we think happened, it's a tragedy to everyone involved. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FoxPro on Vista
On Jan 18, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Malcolm Greene wrote: http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com/images/fabmate_about.jpg Brillant! I'll let the rest of you know when my FAB royalty check arrives.g Probably right after I get mine! ;-) -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FoxPro on Vista
Malcolm Greene wrote: Michael, http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com/images/fabmate_about.jpg Brillant! I'll let the rest of you know when my FAB royalty check arrives.g In order to be eligible, you must refer to it correctly with proper capitalization: FabMate. ;-) -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: RE: FoxPro on Vista
I do know about Craig's class and use it in new work. I have one large app that uses the crypt class which I know is flaky but its what is in use. I looked in the registry and the provider is there so it looks like the flaky class is even worse under vista. I will see if I can fine the reason Allen PS Still having chronic problems with 1and1's email. Now its the IMAP gone wrong. Allen, Check out Craig's free encryption fll on his www.sweetpotatosoftware.com blog. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Drew Speedie death ruled murder-suicide
On Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:24 AM Ed Leafe wrote: http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,650223251,00.html Wow, this is a real shock. I knew Drew and Brent pretty well, but not anywhere near close enough to comment on this ruling. All I can do is echo the sentiment of the lead investigator: This is an unpleasant thing, Smith said. Regardless of what we think happened, it's a tragedy to everyone involved. I am not sure I mentioned this before, but I had an interview for job at Mobil Oil when Drew was working on a project there (at the time one of the largest FoxPro applications ever). I met Drew and his infant son (Brent) at a restaurant for the interview. Drew was a character and it is hard to believe that this is how they ended their lives. David L. Crooks ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Drew Speedie death ruled murder-suicide
Ed Leafe wrote: http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,650223251,00.html Wow, this is a real shock. That's awful! I really hope it's not true. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Determining the type of active index
it's for times where the choices are 1/0 Yes, that is why they are called *Binary* Indexes - bg. Don't worry, you are not the last person to understand this concept. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.rickschummer.com 586.254.2530 - office 586.254.2539 - fax ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Freak Accident
Proof once again that God hates soccer. --- Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check this out: turns out that Mother Nature is not a football fan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIKdK-T-jZM -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Drew Speedie death ruled murder-suicide
I never met the guy but as a father of a young boy I dread to think what brings a man to that point, if indeed it was premeditated. -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Charlie you could be an expert witness also.
http://www.iowaconsumercase.org/Media_Update_January_5_2007.pdf Alepin and Charlie seem to be two peas in a pod. You cna change the day # in the url above to get the next days media highlights. It's a funny short read of 1.5 pages in a large font. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Drew Speedie death ruled murder-suicide
Alan Bourke wrote: I never met the guy but as a father of a young boy I dread to think what brings a man to that point, if indeed it was premeditated. Like others saidit doesn't matter at this point. The end is still tragic. On a side note, and not one I care to debate, I wonder if that voids a life insurance award? Some cases void amounts for suicide, iirc. SHEEP. Let's stop this thread now. Not pleasant by any means. -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Cracking down on CEO salaries
Getting that way myself... If I could sum up every mistake I ever made, they are all the same in that I trusted somebody to do what was right.. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:24 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Cracking down on CEO salaries On Wednesday 17 January 2007 2:46 pm, Michael Madigan wrote: Hi Michael! As you know I am getting up in years. I have had the experience of businesses and people doing right by me for a while and then slipping me the pickle once they had my trust. The last twenty years, I haven't trusted anyone. I also think it's a chicken and egg thing. I think the time when customers used to stick with one business because the service was that good, is long gone. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!
No its not.. Menu's are akin to doors Reports are akin to windows.. There isn't one thing in the programming world that couldn't benefit from fixed objects, and by that I mean you pass a text string to a box with the coordinates and it displays the message with the appropriate buttons.. If we'd spend less time reinventing the wheel and more time benefiting from the combined experience of all our minds, we would be 100 times better off then we are now. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:26 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty! The real reason is that programming is an art, not a science... Can't certify art... Dave Crozier wrote: Hal wrote: ...A thorough understanding of algorithmic principles, database, some math, regression, ETHICS, etc. is what should qualify someone to be a computer professional TOTALLY WRONG Hal I'm afraid. The thing that qualifies someone to be a computer professional in its true sense (where software is concerned anyhow) is the ability to write GOOD software, and the definition of good will change depending upon the environment you are working in. Good in an emergency situation is a fix that works and gets the system live again however it is done. Good in a production environment means reliable and stable. Good in a performance dictated situation means fast and reliable. It's just like driving. All drivers make mistakes, the difference between a good driver and a bad driver is that the good driver will always know whenever he/she has made a mistake and the majority of outsiders/onlookers will never ever notice the mistake. The bad driver is just a danger to others because he doesn't understand the ramification(s) of making a mistake - or even worse, what a mistake constitutes. Remember you don’t have to be able to read music to be a great musician. I'll take natural talent as opposed to paper qualifications any day of the week. Try and teach dancing to someone who has no sense of rhythm and you'll see exactly what I mean. Having all the paper qualifications only gives you a head start in the ability to understand basic methodology but there is absolutely NO substitute for experience and natural ability in this business. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Kaplan Sent: 17 January 2007 20:55 To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty! = And the second problem is that all of the folks in the biz = would want to be grandfathered in. Who in their right mind = would submit to having to gain credentials (that they may or = may not be qualified to earn) to do what they've been doing = for the last 10 or 20 years? = = So, just like the answer about how God created the world in = 6 days = He didn't have to worry about the installed base. = = Whil = During those 6 days, G-d did not create the AMA, ABA, AIA, AICPA, or any other professional group except perhaps for clergy. The installed base existed for all of these professions and it is now all a matter of history. Some practioners fared better than others but on the whole society gained. BTW, you do not need a degree in architecture to be an architect, or a law degree to be an attorney (I am not sure about medicine and accounting). You can become a licensed professional through well-documented experience. Of course you still need to take and pass the state licensing exam. And I dare say that if a similarly-structured arrangement existed for people like us, a good number would pass the exam and gain grandfather status, others would fail, and still others would walk away or do nothing because the effective date for all of the lead-ins to congeal would probably be 6 to 10 years off. What is needed to achieve widespread licensing is a catalyst such as a massive lapse of public safety or security that could be laid at the feet of the profession as it exists today. There are no questions of impartiality or any nonsense like that. Those arguments are specious. All professions have competing suppliers who will do almost anything to get and keep business ... ruthlessly and illegally too! But the basics of these professions: the chemistry of life, anatomy, legal precedent, torts, etc. are independent of commercialism. Intel and AMD may be making a lot of bits, but they did not invent them. A thorough understanding of algorithmic principles, database, some math, regression, ETHICS, etc. is what should qualify someone to be a computer professional. B+ HALinNY [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com
Re: Drew Speedie death ruled murder-suicide
On Jan 18, 2007, at 9:24 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: I knew Drew and Brent pretty well, but not anywhere near close enough to comment on this ruling. I am going with this scenario: Brent was sitting on the rail and slipped and fell. Drew couldn't handle it and followed. It seems to fit the disclosed facts, and it is the only way I can resolve the tragedy with what I knew of Drew. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: select from table
Wow, I knew that the select command was powerful, but this is incredible Is there a book out on this ? Anyhow, Ricardo, many thanks for below example. Unfortunately, it is not quite right. It gives me the result for the most recent 52 records I need the result for the most recent 52 records PER EMPLOYEE (empcode) Are you able to assist, please Sytze If you want the last 52 cycles (sequentially last) : select empcode ; into cursor newtable ; from mytable my ; where my.cycle in (SELECT x.cycle ; FROM (SELECT TOP 52 aux.cycle, RECNO(); from mytable as aux ; order by 2 desc) as x) ; order by empcode ; group by empcode Regards Sytze [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: select from table
You may want to have a look at hentzenwerke.com - Taming VFP SQL. On 1/18/07, Sytze de Boer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, I knew that the select command was powerful, but this is incredible Is there a book out on this ? Anyhow, Ricardo, many thanks for below example. Unfortunately, it is not quite right. It gives me the result for the most recent 52 records I need the result for the most recent 52 records PER EMPLOYEE (empcode) Are you able to assist, please Sytze If you want the last 52 cycles (sequentially last) : select empcode ; into cursor newtable ; from mytable my ; where my.cycle in (SELECT x.cycle ; FROM (SELECT TOP 52 aux.cycle, RECNO(); from mytable as aux ; order by 2 desc) as x) ; order by empcode ; group by empcode Regards Sytze [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: select from table
Short but a great book. Helped a LOT when switching back and forth from MS SQL and VFP SQL - Original Message - From: Grigore Dolghin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: profox@leafe.com Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:22:45 -0600 Subject: Re: select from table You may want to have a look at hentzenwerke.com - Taming VFP SQL. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Virgin birth again.....
At 08:00 PM 1/17/2007 -0200, Helio W. wrote: Perhaps the birth of a female chimpanzee prophet? Possibly God might be thinking, I thought the message was pretty simple the first time.sigh I guess I'll have to step it down a notch for the remaining unbelievers. ;-) -Charlie On 1/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/01/17/pregnant.chimp.ap/index.html or http://tinyurl.com/2xtqup A female chimpanzee at a sanctuary has given birth, despite the fact that the facility's entire male chimp population has had vasectomies. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Cracking down on CEO salaries
At 06:25 PM 1/17/2007 -0800, Michael Madigan wrote: What language is this? LOL Who did you get any? ;- Why, it's .Net-speak of course. ;-) -Charlie ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Cracking down on CEO salaries
Things that have happened to me: Change in marketing director, he brings in his own people and we stop getting work. A year later owner calls us to take over botched job, tells us that we need to learn their new system on our own time, unpaid, then bill us for just the time it takes to fix their system. We tell them to go pound sand. Owner's retarded brother-in-law gets fired from his job, owner gives our contract to brother-in-law. Owner swears I'm not returning his calls and emails even though I swear to him he must be calling someone else because I'm not getting any of his calls or emails. He stops giving me work because I'm unresponsive. I think this guy may have been going senile. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] All the Write Stuff
It's a decade old, but a very well-written piece: http://www.fastcompany.com/online/06/writestuff.html -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Virgin birth again.....
He may have to send a virgin-birth cockroach for Helio. --- Charlie Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:00 PM 1/17/2007 -0200, Helio W. wrote: Perhaps the birth of a female chimpanzee prophet? Possibly God might be thinking, I thought the message was pretty simple the first time.sigh I guess I'll have to step it down a notch for the remaining unbelievers. ;-) -Charlie On 1/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/01/17/pregnant.chimp.ap/index.html or http://tinyurl.com/2xtqup A female chimpanzee at a sanctuary has given birth, despite the fact that the facility's entire male chimp population has had vasectomies. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!
And yet, still, 90% of lawyers and doctors are only maginally competent at best... As for plumbers and carpenters -- certification is not designed to weed out the incompetent but rather to raise the bar for entry into lucrative professions to the favored few. In many cases, originally, it was to keep out the Blacks and the Irish. s Basic business skills are irrelevant to a good computer program and, if you believe the many pro-m$ types, so are ethics... Ted Roche wrote: On 1/18/07, Chet Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The real reason is that programming is an art, not a science... Can't certify art... Practitioners might argue that good practice of many professions qualify as art: medicine, law, plumbing, carpentry... basic proficiency and perhaps basic business skills and ethics ought to be testable, shouldn't they? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!
= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner = Subject: Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty! = = The real reason is that programming is an art, not a science... = = Can't certify art... = Chet, you are absolutely right that programming is an art. So is ... An architect designing a building. A plumber wiping a sweat joint just right to make it look good. A dentist matching the color of a replacement tooth to the rest of the mouth. An attorney doing a benefit performance in front of a jury. A surgeon making just the right incision to get the job done ... no more, no less. And the list goes on. No, you cannot certify art (let alone define it) but every artist has an understanding of his media and his methods and the ramifications of his actions. And that understanding can be quantified and certified and should be. B+ HALinNY ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!
= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner = = And yet, still, 90% of lawyers and doctors are only = maginally competent at best... = = As for plumbers and carpenters -- certification is not = designed to weed out the incompetent but rather to raise the = bar for entry into lucrative professions to the favored few. = In many cases, originally, it was to keep out the Blacks = and the Irish. s = = Basic business skills are irrelevant to a good computer = program and, if you believe the many pro-m$ types, so are ethics... = Chet, you are kidding, right? Plumbers are certified because the lives of people are at risk from bad plumbing practices. Remember that in most jurisdictions, plumbers also handle natural gas installations too. Carpentry certification is also based on public safety. The line about keeping out minorities is certainly true but the trade unions are primarily responsible for that. B+ HALinNY ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!
As a young kid, I worked as an electricians helper and carpenters helper. I have also worked as a marine electrician at bath iron works on naval frigates. When everything went to hell on me, I thought about opening a business as an electrician, but I found out that the entry bar is very high as you have to serve as an apprentice, etc, for a very long time. So in a nutshell, I too sometimes think that licenses are sometimes utilized to keep people out of the business, even if the license may have originally been planned with the best of intentions. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Kaplan Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:52 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty! = [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner = = And yet, still, 90% of lawyers and doctors are only = maginally competent at best... = = As for plumbers and carpenters -- certification is not = designed to weed out the incompetent but rather to raise the = bar for entry into lucrative professions to the favored few. = In many cases, originally, it was to keep out the Blacks = and the Irish. s = = Basic business skills are irrelevant to a good computer = program and, if you believe the many pro-m$ types, so are ethics... = Chet, you are kidding, right? Plumbers are certified because the lives of people are at risk from bad plumbing practices. Remember that in most jurisdictions, plumbers also handle natural gas installations too. Carpentry certification is also based on public safety. The line about keeping out minorities is certainly true but the trade unions are primarily responsible for that. B+ HALinNY [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] IPhone Manufacturers unfortunate name
I thought Apple was getting rid of the smug guy in their ads, but there he is on the right hand side. --- Dave Crozier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mmmm, Just found out the name of the company who will be making the IPhone. http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/jan2007/gb20070110_531125.htm? chan=tc or http://tinyurl.com/359su5 Quote: ...Hon Hai will assemble Apple's new wireless handset called the iPhone, a product launch that could energize the consumer electronics industry later this year And the secret revealed at last: ...Hon Hai, which operates under the trade name of FOXCONN... Maybe there is a connection with VFP somewhere or maybe the phone is secretly powered by the Mac version of VFPBG Dave Crozier ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!
I don't agree -- we can agree to disagree that that understanding can be quantified and certified and should be. You CAN'T QUANTIFY the artistic side of anything! If you can't quantify it, you can't reasonably certify it. I guess I'm old school. I come from the time when there was no understanding of media and methods. There were these things called computers made out of lots of vacuum tubes and we had to learn to rigorously talk their language (except somewhat for Bouroughs :-) ) and we had to translate real world needs into these bizarre, literal language structures with no schematic for how to do so (except the IF statement -- that's a really good one!). So we winged it. I am also a musician. certifying musicians is total bullshit. You can be TRAINED, a little, to use the tools of the art but, if one is really good, one can shake off most of that crap and begin to be an artist. I'm glad I no longer make my living in computers 'cause folks, it's getting to be way too regimented and structured for my artist's taste... Certify away!! Cheers; Hal Kaplan wrote: = [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner = Subject: Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty! = = The real reason is that programming is an art, not a science... = = Can't certify art... = Chet, you are absolutely right that programming is an art. So is ... An architect designing a building. A plumber wiping a sweat joint just right to make it look good. A dentist matching the color of a replacement tooth to the rest of the mouth. An attorney doing a benefit performance in front of a jury. A surgeon making just the right incision to get the job done ... no more, no less. And the list goes on. No, you cannot certify art (let alone define it) but every artist has an understanding of his media and his methods and the ramifications of his actions. And that understanding can be quantified and certified and should be. B+ HALinNY [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!
You're right. It was the white TRADE unions** who were keeping out those others. I was stretching an argument when I didn't have to. Silly me. :-) Hmmm, are lives at risk from bad BUSINESS programming practices? I can see where lives could be at risk from programmers who write process control programs for nucular power plants or automobiles. Interesting question, eh? C PS: No matter, m$ is still evil -- there I brought it back on-topic... ** We need ONE BIG UNION of all of the working class or we'll just continue to all get screwed... www.iww.org http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1576754146/ref=nosim/thomhartmann/ www.thomhartmann.com Hal Kaplan wrote: = [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner = = And yet, still, 90% of lawyers and doctors are only = maginally competent at best... = = As for plumbers and carpenters -- certification is not = designed to weed out the incompetent but rather to raise the = bar for entry into lucrative professions to the favored few. = In many cases, originally, it was to keep out the Blacks = and the Irish. s = = Basic business skills are irrelevant to a good computer = program and, if you believe the many pro-m$ types, so are ethics... = Chet, you are kidding, right? Plumbers are certified because the lives of people are at risk from bad plumbing practices. Remember that in most jurisdictions, plumbers also handle natural gas installations too. Carpentry certification is also based on public safety. The line about keeping out minorities is certainly true but the trade unions are primarily responsible for that. B+ HALinNY [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] All the Write Stuff
= = It's a decade old, but a very well-written piece: = = http://www.fastcompany.com/online/06/writestuff.html = = Ted Roche = It reminds me of the way we did things 40 years ago. Nothing online ... everything was batch. During a good week, you could get 4 turnarounds. You wrote code and bench-checked it at least twice. Then you keypunched the code and you spent a lot of time looking at all the little holes in the cards to make sure that you punched it right and did not get a used card (with someone else's punches) in your deck. Then you submitted it and rested a bit. Then repeat the process. Write, bench-check, review the last run. Slow. Methodic. And now that you have a clean compilation, a decent object module, and an executable (no, Microsoft did not invent all those things; they can't even steal them without screw-ups), you tested your program. You used a carefully assembled collection of data that blew the program in the past (regression testing) and new data that exercised whatever you were coding new. And when the reporting was done, half-a-dozen of your co-workers got to rip it apart (or try to) just for the fun of it. And when it went into production, you were justifiably proud and everyone in the organization knew how much effort went into making it good and appreciated your effort. You were the star of the day (or week) because you did everything by the book. And then somebody said ... OLTP ... instant gratification! ... and that was the beginning of the age of progress. B+ HALinNY ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Storing code in a table
I have a table called export_list, and a column called exec_code (type memo). In my program I want to execute the code stored in the 'exec_code' column if the column is not empty. Is this possible? My thought was that I could use macro expansion, but I get various errors when trying to execute multi-line statements. Do you all have any tips? Thanks, Justin Darnell ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Storing code in a table
Justin: - - -- - Sure, just strToFile() into some temp file name, COMPILE it, and run it. I do it all the time. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Storing code in a table
Various ways - you could dump it to a temporary file with STRTOFILE() and then _VFP.DoCmd(DO tempfile.prg) -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] IPhone Manufacturers unfortunate name
He's definitely 10lb of smug in a 5lb bag ... -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Storing code in a table
Thanks to both of you for your responses. That does work. Do you have to take it to a file? Not a big deal, just curious. Thanks again, J On 1/18/07, Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Various ways - you could dump it to a temporary file with STRTOFILE() and then _VFP.DoCmd(DO tempfile.prg) -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!
= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner = Hmmm, are lives at risk from bad BUSINESS programming = practices? I can see where lives could be at risk from = programmers who write process control programs for nucular = power plants or automobiles. Interesting question, eh? = = C Hey, if Big Jim Collisimo had computers when he was running his business, we may never have heard of Al Capone g. Seriously, every once in a while we hear how someone on Social Security or Medicare stops getting their benefits because they died. If you are on a fixed income and your checkie does not show up, that could be pretty close to life-threatening. Or if the electricity to your iron lung is shut off for alleged failure to pay the bill. As a retiree, you should start becoming a lot more interested in these kinds of scenarios, Pops. B+ HALinNY P.S. And M$ is not evil, it's just drawn badly s ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Storing code in a table
You may be able to use ExecScript. Tracy -Original Message- From: Justin Darnell Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:02 PM Thanks to both of you for your responses. That does work. Do you have to take it to a file? Not a big deal, just curious. Thanks again, J ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Storing code in a table
It is funny, I am sitting here trying to figure out whether and how to do the same thing in PHP. I have always liked the idea of maintaining validation language and other utility code in tables. Developing my own framework in PHP is bringing out my Wish I would have done it's of my VFP framework. Ken On Jan 18, 2007, at 4:15 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote: You may be able to use ExecScript. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Storing code in a table
On 1/18/07, Justin Darnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to both of you for your responses. That does work. Do you have to take it to a file? Not a big deal, just curious. Are you running VFP9? EXECSCRIPT() should do the trick without a tempfile. -- Dave Thayer Denver, CO ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Windows Media Player 10 -- hog?
I use a little utility called AllPlayer. it does just that: plays (nearly) everything: most music formats and video formats, including Real, QT, and all of the usual Windows suspects. www.marbit.com.pl A bit flukey, in that some of the menu items are in Polish, but worth it. On Jan 17, 2007, at 10:51 AM, MB Software Solutions wrote: WMP 10 seems to be much more of a resource hog than the previous versions. I've used Yahoo Music Jukebox and am thinking about just using it instead of WMP 10. What do the rest of you folks use (that isn't a hog like WMP 10 seems to be)? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming Skeptics
Madigan, The liberals just love freedom of speech Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. They are not entitled to keeping their certifications even if they manufacture their own 'facts', however. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.tenajahome.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Gonzales warns judges not to meddle
And a dip-shit, pipsqueek, ass-kissing, pro-torture, anti-Constitution ATTORNEY knows more than judges about national security? http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/18/MNGNINKGA91.DTLfeed=rss.news ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global WarmingSkeptics
Or put another way, if they don't toe the mark, they will be ousted! Didn't Galileo have a small problem like that? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristyne McDaniel Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:26 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global WarmingSkeptics Madigan, The liberals just love freedom of speech Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. They are not entitled to keeping their certifications even if they manufacture their own 'facts', however. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.tenajahome.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global WarmingSkeptics
On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:38 PM, john harvey wrote: Or put another way, if they don't toe the mark, they will be ousted! Didn't Galileo have a small problem like that? Except that the mark in this case is the standard scientific peer review process. In Galileo's case, and in what you're trying to imply, it was because he reached a conclusion that differed from the non-scientific, religious-based world view. This is exactly the opposite of that: people who want to call themselves 'scientists', but who subjugate the scientific method to their belief system. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming Skeptics
Liberals usually can't tell facts from emotions. --- Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Madigan, The liberals just love freedom of speech Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. They are not entitled to keeping their certifications even if they manufacture their own 'facts', however. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.tenajahome.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:41 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: None of us know, and so it should only be labeled a theory by both sides.. The word 'theory' doesn't mean a guess. It means an explanation that has withstood extensive testing and verification. You do realize that gravity is a theory, right? -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Gonzales warns judges not to meddle
= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner = = And a dip-shit, pipsqueek, ass-kissing, pro-torture, = anti-Constitution ATTORNEY knows more than judges about = national security? = = http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/18/M NGNINKGA91.DTLfeed=rss.news = 'Smatta, Chet? You don't like the guy? He's an expert on job security and since he works for the nation, he must be an expert on national security. s THERE IS NO NATIONAL SECURITY GAP. THERE IS NO MAJOR NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT. Let's not forget the Shadow Government=Neocon=Bush plan: Let one happen. Stop the rest. They let 9-11 happen to get everyone all excited and hopped-up about national security and so they could eliminate our Constitutional rights (Ben Franklin would have had a few choice words for this). Now, allowing another threat to actually materialize and manifest itself would be counterproductive. All they want is the THREAT, the SIZZLE. The moronic middle America that 60 years of congressional-dumbing-down has created will buy the steak. George and his puppeteers and Cheney and Rumsfeld are criminals who allowed 3000 people to die on 9-11 and then used that as an excuse to have another 3000 Americans murdered in Iraq. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO STOP THIS CRAP, PUT THESE CRIMINALS ON TRIAL, AND APOLOGIZE TO THE REST OF THE WORLD??? B+ HALinNY ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Gonzales warns judges not to meddle
You forgot the anti-latino words. --- Chet Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a dip-shit, pipsqueek, ass-kissing, pro-torture, anti-Constitution ATTORNEY knows more than judges about national security? http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/18/MNGNINKGA91.DTLfeed=rss.news ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global WarmingSkeptics
I believe he did. I believe Columbus was told that he would sail off the edge of the world. I believe they had snow in Malibu today. Blame that on global warming. --- john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or put another way, if they don't toe the mark, they will be ousted! Didn't Galileo have a small problem like that? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristyne McDaniel Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:26 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global WarmingSkeptics Madigan, The liberals just love freedom of speech Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. They are not entitled to keeping their certifications even if they manufacture their own 'facts', however. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.tenajahome.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
I believe it was the automobile that ended the great ice age. Blame the automobile for killing off the wooly mamouths. --- Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how in the hell can you know which side of the theory is right until history proves it. No doubt in my mind that the temperature is changing, but is it a cycle that happens every once in awhile or a permanent thing. None of us know, and so it should only be labeled a theory by both sides.. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:38 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Or put another way, if they don't toe the mark, they will be ousted! Didn't Galileo have a small problem like that? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristyne McDaniel Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:26 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global WarmingSkeptics Madigan, The liberals just love freedom of speech Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. They are not entitled to keeping their certifications even if they manufacture their own 'facts', however. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.tenajahome.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
But, it's exactly the same as Galileo, because he went against group think which is what you have here, and not even ALL scientists agree. It's just those on the left side of center. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:45 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:38 PM, john harvey wrote: Or put another way, if they don't toe the mark, they will be ousted! Didn't Galileo have a small problem like that? Except that the mark in this case is the standard scientific peer review process. In Galileo's case, and in what you're trying to imply, it was because he reached a conclusion that differed from the non-scientific, religious-based world view. This is exactly the opposite of that: people who want to call themselves 'scientists', but who subjugate the scientific method to their belief system. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] All the Write Stuff
They also have unlimited time and money to do their work. Software development will probably diverge into two paths -- one boring and predictable for critical applications and the other interesting and artsy. In some ways, it already has. In my life I've been lucky enough to spend about 30 of my 42 programming years on one-person projects with relatively complete autonomy and could indulge my artistic tendencies because I'm also VERY GOOD at designing interfaces that real people can use with minimal frustration. So, I guess I've mainly been on the artsy track. Those few harrowing years when I was a tiny cog in a big (slow, inefficient, hypocritical corporate) environment -- didn't have fun...didn't get much done... But...they got to the moon (and back) using the transistor version of the tube computer I used in my first job... Hal Kaplan wrote: = = It's a decade old, but a very well-written piece: = = http://www.fastcompany.com/online/06/writestuff.html = = Ted Roche = It reminds me of the way we did things 40 years ago. Nothing online ... everything was batch. During a good week, you could get 4 turnarounds. You wrote code and bench-checked it at least twice. Then you keypunched the code and you spent a lot of time looking at all the little holes in the cards to make sure that you punched it right and did not get a used card (with someone else's punches) in your deck. Then you submitted it and rested a bit. Then repeat the process. Write, bench-check, review the last run. Slow. Methodic. And now that you have a clean compilation, a decent object module, and an executable (no, Microsoft did not invent all those things; they can't even steal them without screw-ups), you tested your program. You used a carefully assembled collection of data that blew the program in the past (regression testing) and new data that exercised whatever you were coding new. And when the reporting was done, half-a-dozen of your co-workers got to rip it apart (or try to) just for the fun of it. And when it went into production, you were justifiably proud and everyone in the organization knew how much effort went into making it good and appreciated your effort. You were the star of the day (or week) because you did everything by the book. And then somebody said ... OLTP ... instant gratification! ... and that was the beginning of the age of progress. B+ HALinNY [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. So which one is correct ? The problem with extensive testing and verification, at least in my opinion is that most people when testing, already have the outcome in their mind, which makes them arrive at the conclusion they wanted in the first place.. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:51 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:41 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: None of us know, and so it should only be labeled a theory by both sides.. The word 'theory' doesn't mean a guess. It means an explanation that has withstood extensive testing and verification. You do realize that gravity is a theory, right? -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get?
I'm about to upgrade my cellphone and I was thinking about getting something that would allow me to browse the internet. I've had blackberries, and palm pilots, and didn't care for either. I'm looking at the Palm Treo 650: http://www.cingular.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?q_list=trueq _phoneName=Palm+Treo+650q_sku=sku154-1 Anybody familiar with this phone? Pros? Cons? Is there a better phone for the money? I'm on Cingular, er make that ATT, unless they've divested again! John ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!
I was rather pleased at how quickly and efficiently that nasty government bureaucracy, the SSA, got me signed up and money dropping into my account... Hal Kaplan wrote: = [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner = Hmmm, are lives at risk from bad BUSINESS programming = practices? I can see where lives could be at risk from = programmers who write process control programs for nucular = power plants or automobiles. Interesting question, eh? = = C Hey, if Big Jim Collisimo had computers when he was running his business, we may never have heard of Al Capone g. Seriously, every once in a while we hear how someone on Social Security or Medicare stops getting their benefits because they died. If you are on a fixed income and your checkie does not show up, that could be pretty close to life-threatening. Or if the electricity to your iron lung is shut off for alleged failure to pay the bill. As a retiree, you should start becoming a lot more interested in these kinds of scenarios, Pops. B+ HALinNY P.S. And M$ is not evil, it's just drawn badly s [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get?
Try this link, the other was from my account and won't work for others. http://www.cingular.com/treo650 John ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: And how in the hell can you know which side of the theory is right until history proves it. No doubt in my mind that the temperature is changing, but is it a cycle that happens every once in awhile or a permanent thing. None of us know, and so it should only be labeled a theory by both sides.. We have been on a warming cycle for thousands of years. Just ask the glaicers that use to cover 1/3 of the USA. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.14/636 - Release Date: 1/18/2007 4:00 AM ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get?
I'm using the 650 now... Love it... Download a software package called pdanet and connect it via usb to your laptop, or use the bluetooth (finally getting that working reliably) Only thing I don't like and I think it is my ISP is that when I'm roaming, I can no longer receive my email on it. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:03 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get? I'm about to upgrade my cellphone and I was thinking about getting something that would allow me to browse the internet. I've had blackberries, and palm pilots, and didn't care for either. I'm looking at the Palm Treo 650: http://www.cingular.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?q_list=trueq _phoneName=Palm+Treo+650q_sku=sku154-1 Anybody familiar with this phone? Pros? Cons? Is there a better phone for the money? I'm on Cingular, er make that ATT, unless they've divested again! John [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Yep, but is it a cycle, or are we headed in one direction only ? Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen the Cook Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:06 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Virgil Bierschwale wrote: And how in the hell can you know which side of the theory is right until history proves it. No doubt in my mind that the temperature is changing, but is it a cycle that happens every once in awhile or a permanent thing. None of us know, and so it should only be labeled a theory by both sides.. We have been on a warming cycle for thousands of years. Just ask the glaicers that use to cover 1/3 of the USA. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.14/636 - Release Date: 1/18/2007 4:00 AM [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:55 PM, john harvey wrote: But, it's exactly the same as Galileo, because he went against group think which is what you have here, and not even ALL scientists agree. It's just those on the left side of center. Wrong. Galileo didn't start with his conclusion and discard everything that didn't fit it; instead he tested things and arrived at a better explanation of the phenomena he was observing. Group think is a derogatory term that implies that the only reason for anyone holding that position is because nearly everyone else does, too. It disparages the work that has gone into the analysis of the data that has been collected. And your lame attempt at attacking the data by inventing some stupid label just goes to show how unthinking your objections are. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:59 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. LOL!! So which one is correct ? Certainly not the silliness of your first sentence. I thought you were trying to be serious. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Like I said... Some planets have gravity Some don't.. Which one is correct ? Does gravity pull down, or does it have no pull at all ? Your wonderful way with words and your superior intellect makes me think that perhaps neither is correct and that the theory of gravity, is only a theory. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:11 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:59 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. LOL!! So which one is correct ? Certainly not the silliness of your first sentence. I thought you were trying to be serious. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: select from table
Sytze de Boer wrote: Wow, I knew that the select command was powerful, but this is incredible Is there a book out on this ? Anyhow, Ricardo, many thanks for below example. Unfortunately, it is not quite right. It gives me the result for the most recent 52 records I need the result for the most recent 52 records PER EMPLOYEE (empcode) Are you able to assist, please I would have wanted to do : select my.empcode, sum(my.gross) as GrossTotal ; into cursor newtable ; from mytable my ; where my.cycle in (SELECT x.cycle ; FROM (SELECT TOP 52 aux.cycle, RECNO(); from mytable as aux ; where aux.empcode = my.empcode ; order by 2 desc) as x) ; order by empcode ; group by empcode But I cant. The only think I could think of would be : create cursor myresult (empcode C(10), gross N(10,2), cycle N(5)) select empcode into cursor emps from mytable group by empcode scan select empcode, sum(gross) as GrossTotal ; into cursor newtable ; from mytable my ; where my.cycle in (SELECT x.cycle ; FROM (SELECT TOP 52 aux.cycle, RECNO(); from mytable as aux ; where aux.empcode=emps.empcode ; order by 2 desc) as x) ; and my.empcode = emps.empcode group by empcode ; order by empcode select myresult append from dbf('mytable') use in select('mytable') select emps endscan But can't think of something with SQL only. You might also use an INSERT INTO myresult SELECT (and here comes the select) as the only instruction inside the scan. Don't know if it will work being myresult a cursor (maybe dbf('mycursor')?). Beware, haven't had the time to test the code, its coming from the top of my head. As for books, I have : Learning SQL By Alan Beaulieu - Publ. O'Reilly The Art of SQL by Stéphane Faroult and Peter Robson - Publ. O'Reilly Sams Teach Yourself SQL in 24 Hours By Ronald R. Plew and Ryan K. Stephens - Publ. Sams Publishing SQL Bible by Alex Kriegel and Boris M. Trukhnov - Publ. Wiley Sytze If you want the last 52 cycles (sequentially last) : select empcode ; into cursor newtable ; from mytable my ; where my.cycle in (SELECT x.cycle ; FROM (SELECT TOP 52 aux.cycle, RECNO(); from mytable as aux ; order by 2 desc) as x) ; order by empcode ; group by empcode Regards Sytze [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get?
Have you tried gps tracking from the phone? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virgil Bierschwale Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:08 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get? I'm using the 650 now... Love it... Download a software package called pdanet and connect it via usb to your laptop, or use the bluetooth (finally getting that working reliably) Only thing I don't like and I think it is my ISP is that when I'm roaming, I can no longer receive my email on it. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:03 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get? I'm about to upgrade my cellphone and I was thinking about getting something that would allow me to browse the internet. I've had blackberries, and palm pilots, and didn't care for either. I'm looking at the Palm Treo 650: http://www.cingular.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?q_list=trueq _phoneName=Palm+Treo+650q_sku=sku154-1 Anybody familiar with this phone? Pros? Cons? Is there a better phone for the money? I'm on Cingular, er make that ATT, unless they've divested again! John [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Everything has gravity, it's a matter of degree. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virgil Bierschwale Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:14 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Like I said... Some planets have gravity Some don't.. Which one is correct ? Does gravity pull down, or does it have no pull at all ? Your wonderful way with words and your superior intellect makes me think that perhaps neither is correct and that the theory of gravity, is only a theory. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:11 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:59 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. LOL!! So which one is correct ? Certainly not the silliness of your first sentence. I thought you were trying to be serious. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get?
I do not believe it does that.. I need a GPS receiver for my site http://www.virgilslist.com as I'm going to be adding cemetary's to it. Possibly that is an extra software package that can be bought ? If not, and its part of the phone and you figure it out, let me know as I've played with all the menu options and I havent seen anything having to do with GPS on them. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:20 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get? Have you tried gps tracking from the phone? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virgil Bierschwale Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:08 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get? I'm using the 650 now... Love it... Download a software package called pdanet and connect it via usb to your laptop, or use the bluetooth (finally getting that working reliably) Only thing I don't like and I think it is my ISP is that when I'm roaming, I can no longer receive my email on it. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:03 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get? I'm about to upgrade my cellphone and I was thinking about getting something that would allow me to browse the internet. I've had blackberries, and palm pilots, and didn't care for either. I'm looking at the Palm Treo 650: http://www.cingular.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?q_list=trueq _phoneName=Palm+Treo+650q_sku=sku154-1 Anybody familiar with this phone? Pros? Cons? Is there a better phone for the money? I'm on Cingular, er make that ATT, unless they've divested again! John [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get?
I think all new cellphones are required to have gps (E-911) included. How to access that might be a trick. I'm ordering the phone now. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virgil Bierschwale Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:22 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get? I do not believe it does that.. I need a GPS receiver for my site http://www.virgilslist.com as I'm going to be adding cemetary's to it. Possibly that is an extra software package that can be bought ? If not, and its part of the phone and you figure it out, let me know as I've played with all the menu options and I havent seen anything having to do with GPS on them. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:20 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get? Have you tried gps tracking from the phone? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virgil Bierschwale Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:08 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get? I'm using the 650 now... Love it... Download a software package called pdanet and connect it via usb to your laptop, or use the bluetooth (finally getting that working reliably) Only thing I don't like and I think it is my ISP is that when I'm roaming, I can no longer receive my email on it. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:03 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get? I'm about to upgrade my cellphone and I was thinking about getting something that would allow me to browse the internet. I've had blackberries, and palm pilots, and didn't care for either. I'm looking at the Palm Treo 650: http://www.cingular.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?q_list=trueq _phoneName=Palm+Treo+650q_sku=sku154-1 Anybody familiar with this phone? Pros? Cons? Is there a better phone for the money? I'm on Cingular, er make that ATT, unless they've divested again! John [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get?
I'm very satisfied with it myself... Let me know when you figure out the GPS portion as I would like to use that if its available.. Thanks Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:36 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get? I think all new cellphones are required to have gps (E-911) included. How to access that might be a trick. I'm ordering the phone now. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virgil Bierschwale Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:22 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get? I do not believe it does that.. I need a GPS receiver for my site http://www.virgilslist.com as I'm going to be adding cemetary's to it. Possibly that is an extra software package that can be bought ? If not, and its part of the phone and you figure it out, let me know as I've played with all the menu options and I havent seen anything having to do with GPS on them. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:20 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get? Have you tried gps tracking from the phone? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virgil Bierschwale Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:08 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get? I'm using the 650 now... Love it... Download a software package called pdanet and connect it via usb to your laptop, or use the bluetooth (finally getting that working reliably) Only thing I don't like and I think it is my ISP is that when I'm roaming, I can no longer receive my email on it. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:03 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] Cell phone upgrade - what to get? I'm about to upgrade my cellphone and I was thinking about getting something that would allow me to browse the internet. I've had blackberries, and palm pilots, and didn't care for either. I'm looking at the Palm Treo 650: http://www.cingular.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?q_list=trueq _phoneName=Palm+Treo+650q_sku=sku154-1 Anybody familiar with this phone? Pros? Cons? Is there a better phone for the money? I'm on Cingular, er make that ATT, unless they've divested again! John [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.