Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
On Thursday 17 April 2008 10:47, Matt Jarvis wrote: world wants to know I like to dress up as a Leprechaun and sing the aria from Madam Butterfly, Hi Matt! You ARE brave, I only sing Madame Butterfly when I am taking my insulin, and then only when I am using an injection site on the tummy. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
I have considered looking at GPG for eMail, but never got around to it. There are a few times when I prefer to have the content of my eMail not readable by just anyone - although I do make every reasonable effort to not expose too much smewhat sensitive info via Clear Text transport. With your esteemed prodding I will look at GPG, and see if it makes sense for me. Thanks you! Gil (my non-evil other self) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 8:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Gil Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And whenever I transmit any confidential information I will only send it as an eMail attachment or ftp transfer after the file has been encrypted at at least 128bit (ZipGenius at 256bit Blowfish). You might want to look at GPG. That allows you to encrypt email and attachments, verify the integrity of mail from folks you trust, and more. GPG has nice integration into Thunderbird with Enigmail. That way, you don't need to trust your email service provider, whomever they might be. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Gil Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And whenever I transmit any confidential information I will only send it as an eMail attachment or ftp transfer after the file has been encrypted at at least 128bit (ZipGenius at 256bit Blowfish). You might want to look at GPG. That allows you to encrypt email and attachments, verify the integrity of mail from folks you trust, and more. GPG has nice integration into Thunderbird with Enigmail. That way, you don't need to trust your email service provider, whomever they might be. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
Ted Roche wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Gil Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might want to look at GPG. That allows you to encrypt email and attachments, verify the integrity of mail from folks you trust, and more. GPG has nice integration into Thunderbird with Enigmail. That way, you don't need to trust your email service provider, whomever they might be. I've tried in the past to use E-mail encryption (pgp, etc), but the hitch I always run into is that of course, the person on the receiving end has to also use some form of encryption software to read the messages. Getting ANY of my family, friends or relatives to take this extra step has proven to be impossible for me. They just want to click on AOL LOL whatever, and read their e-mail. They don't want to be bothered even installing something that's transparent, once it's installed. I feel like the kid with the Captain Marvel decoder ring, that can't find any other kid with a ring to play with If I have to send data, I zip with encrypt, and place it on a new folder on an FTP site. (Yeah, I know - don't get me started about SFTP - same problem). Actually, whenever possible, I start up an ftp client on my laptop, give them the IP address, and have them pull the data down. This way I can monitor exactly who's connected, and can disconnect after they have the data. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
Unless you are encrypting all outbound eMail, and require senders of incoming eMail to do the same, any and all such communications are subject to being intercepted and read, letter by letter, as eMail communication over the Internet is all Clear Text. I figure it is always best to never send any correspondence via eMail that could come back to bite me, or could injure another party. And whenever I transmit any confidential information I will only send it as an eMail attachment or ftp transfer after the file has been encrypted at at least 128bit (ZipGenius at 256bit Blowfish). Almost ditto for an web sites I send out data on. If it does not have the little closed hasp indicating the site is secure, I will not send logons info or credit card info. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Johnson Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product I may be paranoid but I still don't feel comfortable with having customer emails on Google or Gmail. I have been using Thunderbird and Lightning for about eight months and really (*REALLY*) like it. It does everything I used to do in Outlook only considerably faster. Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Matt Jarvis wrote: Secondly we've been searching for a desktop solution to Calendaring and alarms etc. People around here can't seem to get their heads around Google calendar, but Lightning seems to be popular. I'd just like to see an integrated solution that put it all together. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
Matt Jarvis wrote: Ted Roche wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Matt Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's gmail-ish w/o the google stuff, integrated calendar, task list, contacts, private/public-ness So, it's... email? Had a client who had it in 2007 and they were dissatisfied. I'm sure Rackspace has thousands of happy customers, but... What is it you are looking for? Web-interfaced email? My main motivation is to reduce spam... I personally don't get much, but apparently I'm the only one that can figure out how to invoke junk mail controls in Thunderbird... I'm getting tired of people whining about it... Secondly we've been searching for a desktop solution to Calendaring and alarms etc. People around here can't seem to get their heads around Google calendar, but Lightning seems to be popular. I'd just like to see an integrated solution that put it all together. Plus it would/should free up a server class machine (current mail server) for other duties. Gamer Box for the IT Manager perhaps??? g And they'd worry about spam/virus/backups and all that I'm just asking it might be nice to have everyone all in the same sandbox Malcolm has been singing the praises of FastMail...check the archives. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
Malcolm has been singing the praises of FastMail...check the archives. I am a huge Fastmail fan (love their service and their web interface) but the Noteworthy service also sounds great. Assuming equal reliability, here are 4 things I like about the Noteworthy service: 1. A control panel so one can manage multiple accounts easily. Fastmail is still focused on individuals (although they claim to be working on a multi-account control panel interface as well) 2. Migration services to help you migrate from your existing email service to their service (move all your saved emails and folders). (Note that this service does not migrate spam settings, folder filing rules, etc - its just a bulk transfer of email) 3. A variety of archival options including bcc to an an archival account and DVD snapshots of a mail account. 4. Secondary data backup via Amazon's S3 storage service. I would love to hear feedback from anyone using the Noteworthy service. Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
Paul McNett wrote: I'm not comfortable with it either. If they decide to put their stuff on a public server, that's one thing. But I will recommend against it almost every time. It isn't that I'm paranoid that Google will turn evil (I am, though). It is that by storing valuable data offsite like that, especially on such a high-profile place, the risk of data theft or hacking where I am not in control is too great. Google employs a lot of highly intelligent people. Highly intelligent people have a way of pulling of highly intricate crimes, and it just takes one bad apple. Paul I'll be the FIRST to admit I'm paranoid Remember way back when we were all learning the rules of the net - Thou shalt not put anything anywhere on the net that you wouldn't want seen on a public bulletin board driving down the freeway. I still feel the same way (tho I slip up from time to time)... I only use GMail for my personal stuff. My gripe w/ GMail is they archive/scan the content of your emails so they can tailor advertising to you. Hey - it's a free service so I expect them to get something out of my using it, but that doesn't mean I like it. But then again, if the world wants to know I like to dress up as a Leprechaun and sing the aria from Madam Butterfly, I guess they're welcome to that info -- Matthew S. Jarvis IT Manager, MCP Bike Friday - Performance That Packs! www.bikefriday.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Matt Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul McNett wrote: I'm not comfortable with it either. If they decide to put their stuff on a public server, that's one thing. But I will recommend against it almost every time. It isn't that I'm paranoid that Google will turn evil (I am, though). It is that by storing valuable data offsite like that, especially on such a high-profile place, the risk of data theft or hacking where I am not in control is too great. Google employs a lot of highly intelligent people. Highly intelligent people have a way of pulling of highly intricate crimes, and it just takes one bad apple. Paul I'll be the FIRST to admit I'm paranoid Remember way back when we were all learning the rules of the net - Thou shalt not put anything anywhere on the net that you wouldn't want seen on a public bulletin board driving down the freeway. I still feel the same way (tho I slip up from time to time)... I only use GMail for my personal stuff. My gripe w/ GMail is they archive/scan the content of your emails so they can tailor advertising to you. Hey - it's a free service so I expect them to get something out of my using it, but that doesn't mean I like it. But then again, if the world wants to know I like to dress up as a Leprechaun and sing the aria from Madam Butterfly, I guess they're welcome to that info - Funny is reading this in gMail and seeing all the ads on right about bikes for sale as well as rackspace and Opera tickets. Just kidding about the tickets. -- Matthew S. Jarvis IT Manager, MCP Bike Friday - Performance That Packs! www.bikefriday.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
Anyone familiar with this? http://www.rackspace.com/solutions/mail/noteworthy.php It's gmail-ish w/o the google stuff, integrated calendar, task list, contacts, private/public-ness This could be the answer to a lot of my needs around here and would like to talk to somebody that's used it. And it's dirt cheap too -- Matthew S. Jarvis IT Manager, MCP Bike Friday - Performance That Packs! www.bikefriday.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Matt Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone familiar with this? http://www.rackspace.com/solutions/mail/noteworthy.php It's gmail-ish w/o the google stuff, integrated calendar, task list, contacts, private/public-ness This could be the answer to a lot of my needs around here and would like to talk to somebody that's used it. And it's dirt cheap too --- Suckin up to management here? - Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Mimeo.com Memphis TN 901.246-0159 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
On Apr 16, 2008, at 4:08 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: Suckin up to management here? Did you think I asked the question? -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
Stephen Russell wrote: Suckin up to management here? He's just trying to get a free ProFox subscription. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Matt Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's gmail-ish w/o the google stuff, integrated calendar, task list, contacts, private/public-ness So, it's... email? Had a client who had it in 2007 and they were dissatisfied. I'm sure Rackspace has thousands of happy customers, but... What is it you are looking for? Web-interfaced email? -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
Ted Roche wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Matt Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's gmail-ish w/o the google stuff, integrated calendar, task list, contacts, private/public-ness So, it's... email? Had a client who had it in 2007 and they were dissatisfied. I'm sure Rackspace has thousands of happy customers, but... What is it you are looking for? Web-interfaced email? My main motivation is to reduce spam... I personally don't get much, but apparently I'm the only one that can figure out how to invoke junk mail controls in Thunderbird... I'm getting tired of people whining about it... Secondly we've been searching for a desktop solution to Calendaring and alarms etc. People around here can't seem to get their heads around Google calendar, but Lightning seems to be popular. I'd just like to see an integrated solution that put it all together. Plus it would/should free up a server class machine (current mail server) for other duties. Gamer Box for the IT Manager perhaps??? g And they'd worry about spam/virus/backups and all that I'm just asking it might be nice to have everyone all in the same sandbox -- Matthew S. Jarvis IT Manager, MCP Bike Friday - Performance That Packs! www.bikefriday.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Matt Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Secondly we've been searching for a desktop solution to Calendaring and alarms etc. People around here can't seem to get their heads around Google calendar, but Lightning seems to be popular. I'd just like to see an integrated solution that put it all together. How about Google Apps for Business? I've set up a couple of small businesses with the free (10-person) version. It provides the interfaces so that you can use it as a remote email server (POP and maybe IMAP) and Calendaring via iCal so you could use Thunderbird and Lightening as front ends. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
Yahoo business mail had all that you're looking for and the Spam filters are pretty good. My main motivation is to reduce spam... I personally don't get much, but apparently I'm the only one that can figure out how to invoke junk mail controls in Thunderbird... I'm getting tired of people whining about it... Secondly we've been searching for a desktop solution to Calendaring and alarms etc. People around here can't seem to get their heads around Google calendar, but Lightning seems to be popular. I'd just like to see an integrated solution that put it all together. Plus it would/should free up a server class machine (current mail server) for other duties. Gamer Box for the IT Manager perhaps??? g And they'd worry about spam/virus/backups and all that I'm just asking it might be nice to have everyone all in the same sandbox ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
I may be paranoid but I still don't feel comfortable with having customer emails on Google or Gmail. I have been using Thunderbird and Lightning for about eight months and really (*REALLY*) like it. It does everything I used to do in Outlook only considerably faster. Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Matt Jarvis wrote: Secondly we've been searching for a desktop solution to Calendaring and alarms etc. People around here can't seem to get their heads around Google calendar, but Lightning seems to be popular. I'd just like to see an integrated solution that put it all together. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Rackspace Noteworthy product
Jeff Johnson wrote: I may be paranoid but I still don't feel comfortable with having customer emails on Google or Gmail. I have been using Thunderbird and Lightning for about eight months and really (*REALLY*) like it. It does everything I used to do in Outlook only considerably faster. I'm not comfortable with it either. If they decide to put their stuff on a public server, that's one thing. But I will recommend against it almost every time. It isn't that I'm paranoid that Google will turn evil (I am, though). It is that by storing valuable data offsite like that, especially on such a high-profile place, the risk of data theft or hacking where I am not in control is too great. Google employs a lot of highly intelligent people. Highly intelligent people have a way of pulling of highly intricate crimes, and it just takes one bad apple. Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
