[proletar] Re: cangkok pete fiq, bangun! (Dipo yang gila tidak bisa membedakan antara

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik johny_indon


elu yg jelas2 ngibul.
gua beli kaos non branded di duty free schiphol aja udah diatas 10 euro.
kalo yg branded kayak kaos hard rock cafe itu bisa 30an euro.

2 euro itu cuman 24 rebu perak.
elu punya duit segitu di indonesia cuman dapet kaos kaki.
kayaknya elu sering beli kaos di toko loak di leiden sono ya.
makanya kalo hidup melarat jangan sok makmur.

kalo coklat 5 euro sekotak emang bener, tapi kotak korek api.

dasar pembohong kelas ketombe lu.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote:

 Ngibul..
 
 Kaos di negeri Belanda cuma sekitar 2 atau 3 euro, gantungan konci 
 paling-paling satu setengah euro dan coklat juga paling-paling lima euro 
 sekotak..
 
 Dan tiap orang Belanda disamping gaji atau pensiun atau tunjangan, termasuk 
 gelandangan, juga dapat uang untuk pergi pakansi tiap tahun.
 






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[proletar] Re: Dipo, ayuh ikuti contoh Wawan...

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik rezameutia
hahaha

nah, itu baru dah ikutin contoh wawan.



--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, wawan selarasmilis@... wrote:

 
 Kang reza,ayuh ikuti contoh Wawan...
 
 segeralah pergi ke mangga besar, disana ayam-nya cuakep-cuakep...
 
 
 
 --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, rezameutia rezameutia@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote:
  
   Dipo, ayuh ikuti contoh Wawan...
  
  
  Jusfiq, ayuh ikuti contoh Wawan...
 







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[proletar] Re: Juspik pengidap sadomachosism

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik rezameutia

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, johny_indon johny_indon@... wrote:

 pik, elu pernah ngga merenung barang sebentar, iya sebentaar aja.
 merenung bahwa selama ini elu cuman jadi bahan olok2 di milis.
 coba deh pik mikir sebentar, pikirin nasib lu di sini.
 semua orang, bahkan dari kimhook sampe habe, sekarang mulai menjauhi elu.
 pernah kepikir ngga kenapa sampe begitu?
 
 coba mikir pik, bentaran aja.
 


lahh..., itu die yang si tua nggak bisa, mikir!!
orang nggak punya otak kok disuruh mikir?

aya aya wae...


 coba lu liat, semua tanggapan ke tulisan elu itu semuanya cuman olok2.
 elu kayak kucing yg dikasih bola trus asik dan serius mainin bola sementara 
 yg lempar bola ketawa2 kegirangan.
 


bukan kucing, kayak anjing chasing his own ass.


 atau elu emang menikmati semua olok2 itu ya, semacam penderita sadomachosist 
 yg mencapai orgasme kalo digebukin?
 


sodomichosist??
hehehe...

 --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote:
 
  
  Apakah hanya johny-indon yang nggk sanggup mikir dan menderita fobi mikir? 
  
  Ya nggak, semua orang Islam disini yang masih suka nongol, yaitu Dipo,  
  ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang juga sama-sama 
  menderita fobi mikir..
  
  Makanya nggak ada tuh yang berani baca buku Wansbrough, Lulling dan 
  Luxenberg...
  
  Beda dengan orang Nasrani seperti Richan Situmorang dan David Silalahi yang 
  pada bergegas membaca buku atau tulisan yang saya sinyalir. 
  
  Lagian saya sinyalir atau tidak mereka rajin nyari informasi dan menambah 
  pengetahuan.
 







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[proletar] Re: met weekend..

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik rezameutia
lagunya mantap.
artisnya mantap.
penontonnya fuck up..


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 Mantab bro..!! .. it's nice song
 
 --- On Thu, 2/17/11, rezameutia rezameutia@... wrote:
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   met weekend everybody.
 
 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH5ZE3N8cxUfeature=related
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
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[proletar] Re: Mantan

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik ndeboost

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/malaysia/T94DGOQOLKBAKB4LI
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/malaysia/T94DGOQOLKBAKB4LI

Ribuan Orang Kulit Putih Inggris Masuk Islam, Kebanyakan Para Elit !!!

Jul 6, 2010
...

Sebelumnya Birt pernah mengatakan, dia tidak memiliki alasan kenapa dia
masuk Islam.Namun dalam perenungan lebih lama, saya pikir Islam
merupakan ajaran lengkap, seimbang, dan integral seluruh aspek
ajarannya. Kehidupan spiritual orang-orang Islam juga menarik saya masuk
Islam, akunya.

Sementara itu, pekan ini juga seorang tokoh Inggris terkenal masuk
Islam. Dia adalah Emma Clark, cucu perempuan bekas PM Inggris, Herbert
Asquith.

..

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, PAREWA parewa70@... wrote:



 Di
 Depan Akademisi Cambridge, Mantan Pastor Itu Berkisah Kenapa Pilih
Islam

 REPUBLIKA.CO.ID, Bukan saya yang mencari Islam, Islam yang menemukan
 saya, kata Idris Tawfiq. Ia berbicara di depan akademisi dan keluarga
 besar universitas papan atas Inggris, Cambridge.
 Di perguruan tinggi ini tengah dihajat acara tahunan Experience Islam
Week,
 acara untuk pengenalan Islam dan toleransi.



 Ia mengaku, tak ada masalah dengan masa lalunya. Saya mencintai
pekerjaan
 dan masa lalu saya, namun hati saya seperti dipandu memilih Islam,
 katanya. Setelah menjadi Muslim, saya menemukan kedamaian yang tak
pernah
 saya temukan sebelumnya.



 Menurutnya, keputusannya memilih Islam adalah keputusan terbesar dalam
 hidupnya. Ia masih melakukan pelayanan, ketika kemudian hatinya
berbicara lain.
 Sampai suatu saat, timbul keberanian untuk menyatakan behenti dan
mundur.
 Saya merasa sendiri setelah itu, katanya.



 Pertama kali, ia menyatakan berhenti menjadi pastor. Namun, ia tetap
memegang
 kayakinan lamanya, sambil terus belajar Islam. Saya tidak bermaksud
 mengubah iman saya itu bukan bagian dari rencana saya sama sekali,
 katanya.



 Ia menyatakan, tinggal dan besar di Inggris selama 40 tahun, ia punya
pandangan
 stereotip tentang Muslim. Tapi saat liburan di Mesir, ia
 bertemu dan berteman dengan banyak orang Muslim, dan mengatakan bahwa
ia mulai
 menyadari persepsi tentang keyakinan Islam. Keyakinan lama saya
perlahan
 luntur, dan Islam menjadi lebih menarik perhatian saya, katanya.



 Menurutnya, ajaran Islam sebenarnya sangat indah. tak benar Islam
 mengajarkan kekerasan. Jika Anda menyelami ajaran Islam, Anda akan
 menemukan ajaran agama ini benar-benar sangat indah, sangat lembut,
dan
 manis, katanya.



 Ia menyarankan satu hal bagi mereka yang tengah belajar Islam.
Sebelum
 Anda membuah keputusan, tarik nafas dalam-dalam dan dengarkan apa kata
Islam.
 Kemudian, penahi pola pikir Anda, katanya.



 Saat ini, Tawfiq memutuskan untuk tinggal di Mesir. Ia mengaku tak
gamang
 dengan perubahan politik di negeri itu. Satu hal yang diajarkan Islam
 adalah, jangan pernah terkejut dengan apapun yang datang dalam
kehidupan kita.
 Di Mesir, semua terbukti. Siapa yang menduga hanya dalam tiga pekan
tiran yang
 30 tahun lebih berkuasa bisa tumbang, katanya.

 Red: Siwi
 Tri Puji B

 Sumber: Cambridge
 News/BBC







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[proletar] Re: Orang Islam jadi pada gila karena ikut mailing list ini, orang Nasrani menarik

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Dasar bencong bangkrut, njilat sana m(e)ledingi sini
Insentifnya sudah ga cukup ya? Makanya, yang lebih greget

m(e)ledingi: nunjukkan bokong ke lawan

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 Orang Islam seperti Dipo, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman
Proteus, Tawang jadi pada gila karena ikut mailing list ini..

 Orang Nasrani menarik manfaat: Richan Situmorang  misalnya terdorong
untuk membaca Dawkins dan David Silalahi berusaha menarik pelajaran dari
ruang diskusi ini.







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[proletar] Re: Isu agama di Australia

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Tapi kalau mau bisa makan enak setiap saat, maka tempatnya adalah
Indonesia.

Pendirian masing-masing, keknya bukan bagi para bencong. Kebanyakan
mereka milih tinggal di majikannya.
ABB demikian juga, para pengimpi sdh berapa kali berusaha memisahkannya
dari santrinya. Kasihan ya? Yang terakhir buntutnya hanya memvonis ABB
dg pelanggaran praturan keimigrasian, saking sdh ga punya alasan
lainnya.

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 Seorang juru bicara imigrasi dari Partai Liberal yang beroposisi
menyarankan agar dilakukan exploitasi atas kekuatiran orang banyak
mengenai imigrasi orang-orang Muslim, orang-orang Muslim yang sudah
berada di Australia dan ketidakmampuan mereka untuk berintegrasi di
Australia. Bocoran berita ini rupanya telah merugikan Partai Liberal
sendiri, walaupun diharapkan bisa menambah dukungan bagi Partai Liberal.

 Sementara itu seorang kolumnis juga menulis mengenai akan membanjirnya
para pengungsi Muslim yang datang dari Afrika Utara. Memang kenyataannya
sementara ini mereka sudah mulai membanjiri wilayah Italia dalam rangka
usaha mereka memasuki Eropa dan Italia sudah kelabakan menangani mereka.

 Sebagian orang Australia kuatir dengan semakin banyaknya orang-orang
Muslim di Australia maka suatu saat mereka akan menuntut diberlakukannya
hukum Syariah.

 Ada pertanyaan mengapa para pengungsi Muslim tidak bermukim saja di
Saudi Arabia atau negara-negara teluk lainnya yang tampaknya sangat
makmur? Jawabnya Saudi Arabia, negara yang demikian dipuja tinggi oleh
sementara orang di milis ini, dan negara-negara teluk lainnya TIDAK AKAN
PERNAH menerima warga negara lain sebagai warga negara mereka. Sementara
fasilitas yang aduhai tersebut hanya bisa dinikmati oleh warganya saja.

 Alasan itu yang menyebabkan pindahnya suatu keluarga Indonesia ke
Kanada seperti dalam URL berikut.
http://kolomkita.detik.com/baca/artikel/6/35/mengapa_kami_merantau_ke_ca\
nada_

 Di perusahaan tempat saya bekerja yang karyawannya lebih dari 8000
orang ada cukup banyak yang Muslim. Tidak ada diskriminasi apapun di
tempat kerja, misalkan ada orang berkulit hitam kelahiran Senegal yang
mengenyam pendidikan tingginya di Moskow di mana orang ini punya posisi
managerial. Dengan adanya ketampilan yang dimiliki orang bisa tinggal di
manapun juga, termasuk di Saudi Arabia dengan bekerja tentunya, tapi
jangan harap bisa menikmati fasilitas istimewa yang merupakan hak
warganya saja. Tapi kalau mau bisa makan enak setiap saat, maka
tempatnya adalah Indonesia.

 Berdasarkan statistik, walaupun dengan angka tingkat kelahiran yang
demikian tinggi, saya yakin Abu Bakar Bashir cuma bermimpi saja.
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[proletar] Repost: Palsu 'pa orisinil (7): Mrk 1:1 Pakai Anak Allah ga ya?

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Gak direspon nDeboost ga patheken do!!

LAI 06: Inilah permulaan Injil tentang Yesus Kristus,
Anak Allah.
The Gideons: The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ,
the Son of God;


Yag dibawah, ga ada Anak Allah.  Jadi mana yg orisinil?

Kitab Suci Injil : Inilah permulaan Injil mengenai Isa
Al Masih, Sang Anak yang datang dari Allah,

The Message Bible: The good news of Jesus Christ--the
Message! --begins here,

New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures: [The]
beginning of the good news about Jesus Christ:

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@... wrote:


 LAI 06: Inilah permulaan Injil tentang Yesus Kristus, Anak Allah.


 The Gideons: The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of
 God;

 Kitab Suci Injil : Inilah permulaan Injil mengenai Isa Al Masih, Sang
 Anak yang datang dari Allah,



 The Message Bible: The good news of Jesus Christ--the Message!--begins
 here,



 New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures:  [The] beginning of the
 good news about Jesus Christ:



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[proletar] Asyik nggak ujan, ngak ada salju, angin juga nggak kencang

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Asyik nggak ujan, ngak ada salju, angin juga nggak kencang dan temperatur juga 
nggak dingin betul, cuman 9 derajad celcius..

Saya mulai jogging sekitar jam 9 pagi.

Jalanan udah rame, tapi seperti kemarin, kebanyakan jalan yang saya lalui 
adalah jaln-jalan kecil yang tidak banyak dilalui kendaraan bermotor..

Dan nggak banyak yang istimewa. 

Di simpang Wittesingel dan Nordeinde saya lihat ada turis dari Asia Timur yang 
mengambil foto patung Rembrand..

Di Gerrit Dousstraat saya berpapasan dengan perempuan muda yang pakae jaket 
merah cerah..

Dan di ujung Schelpenkade saya berpapasan lagi dengan laki-laki setengah baya 
berpakaian lengkap dengan dasi dan berpici cowboy yang membawa anjingnya 
berjalan pagi..

Dengan takzimnya dia mengucapkan Goede morgen yang saya sambut dengan Goede 
morgen juga.
 
Walaupun jarak yang saya tempuh sama dengan yang kemarin, tapi hari ini saya 
sudah balik dirumah setelah 92 menit 57 detik.








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[proletar] Re: Orang Islam jadi pada gila karena ikut mailing list ini, orang Nasrani menar

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
Nggk bisa bantah apa yang saya katakan  ndeboost yang otaknya sudah rusak dan 
sudah jadi gila tentu tidk bisa membantah apa  yang saya katakan. Lalu seperti 
lazimnya dia dia cuap-cuap kayak nonok bebek yang baru dientoinmonyet bonobo 
sekedar untuk unjuk isi otaknya yang busuk, nista laagi menjijikkan.
 
Saya ulang menyampaikan apa yang saya tuls danyang tidak bisa dibantahnya.

Orang Islam seperti Dipo, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman
Proteus, Tawang jadi pada gila karena ikut mailing list ini..

Orang Nasrani menarik manfaat: Richan Situmorang misalnya terdorong
untuk membaca Dawkins dan David Silalahi berusaha menarik pelajaran dari
ruang diskusi ini.



--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@... wrote:

 Dasar bencong bangkrut, njilat sana m(e)ledingi sini
 Insentifnya sudah ga cukup ya? Makanya, yang lebih greget
 
 m(e)ledingi: nunjukkan bokong ke lawan
 
 --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote:
 
 
  Orang Islam seperti Dipo, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman
 Proteus, Tawang jadi pada gila karena ikut mailing list ini..
 
  Orang Nasrani menarik manfaat: Richan Situmorang  misalnya terdorong
 untuk membaca Dawkins dan David Silalahi berusaha menarik pelajaran dari
 ruang diskusi ini.
 







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[proletar] Re: Juspik pengidap sadomachosism

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

rezameutia yang hidup sengsara karena sudah gila dan mikir juga cuma bisa pake 
kontol pamer lagi fikiran najis yang keluar dari kontolnya sembari menjilat 
pantat johny-indon yang menderita fobi mikir...


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, rezameutia rezameutia@... wrote:

 
 --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, johny_indon johny_indon@ wrote:
 
  pik, elu pernah ngga merenung barang sebentar, iya sebentaar aja.
  merenung bahwa selama ini elu cuman jadi bahan olok2 di milis.
  coba deh pik mikir sebentar, pikirin nasib lu di sini.
  semua orang, bahkan dari kimhook sampe habe, sekarang mulai menjauhi elu.
  pernah kepikir ngga kenapa sampe begitu?
  
  coba mikir pik, bentaran aja.
  
 
 
 lahh..., itu die yang si tua nggak bisa, mikir!!
 orang nggak punya otak kok disuruh mikir?
 
 aya aya wae...
 
 
  coba lu liat, semua tanggapan ke tulisan elu itu semuanya cuman olok2.
  elu kayak kucing yg dikasih bola trus asik dan serius mainin bola sementara 
  yg lempar bola ketawa2 kegirangan.
  
 
 
 bukan kucing, kayak anjing chasing his own ass.
 
 
  atau elu emang menikmati semua olok2 itu ya, semacam penderita 
  sadomachosist 
  yg mencapai orgasme kalo digebukin?
  
 
 
 sodomichosist??
 hehehe...
 
  --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote:
  
   
   Apakah hanya johny-indon yang nggk sanggup mikir dan menderita fobi 
   mikir? 
   
   Ya nggak, semua orang Islam disini yang masih suka nongol, yaitu Dipo,  
   ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang juga sama-sama 
   menderita fobi mikir..
   
   Makanya nggak ada tuh yang berani baca buku Wansbrough, Lulling dan 
   Luxenberg...
   
   Beda dengan orang Nasrani seperti Richan Situmorang dan David Silalahi 
   yang pada bergegas membaca buku atau tulisan yang saya sinyalir. 
   
   Lagian saya sinyalir atau tidak mereka rajin nyari informasi dan menambah 
   pengetahuan.
  
 







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[proletar] Penghukuman2 Yg Berat Dalam Islam http://answering-islam.org

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik siap murtad
http://answering-islam.org/indonesian/pemerintahan-islam/penghukuman-berat-dalam-islam.html
Penghukuman-Penghukuman Yang Berat Dalam Islam



Observasi terhadap akar-akar Qur’an untuk hukum 
kriminal Muslim
Dan aplikasinya oleh mazhab-mazhab yurisprudensi Muslim
Abd al-Masih
GRACE AND TRUTH – FELLBACH – GERMANY
 
Qur’an memuat 37 ayat yang berbicara mengenai 
penghukuman-penghukuman yang dijatuhkan karena: mengganggu kedamaian, 
perampokan, pembunuhan, melukai tubuh, pencurian, perzinahan, perkosaan 
dan dugaan adanya perzinahan. Berdasarkan ayat-ayat ini dan referensi 
hidup Muhammad (Sunnah), ke-lima mazhab yurisprudensi telah 
mengembangkan sebuah sistem hukum kriminal sebelum abad pertengahan.
Para pengacara Islam telah memberikan 
nilai-nilai yang berbeda dengan yang ada di Eropa, terhadap kejahatan. 
Hubungan-hubungan sebelum pernikahan dan perzinahan dipandang sebagai 
pelanggaran yang jauh lebih berat daripada pembunuhan atau pencurian. 
Melukai tubuh dan membayar uang darah ditangani secara lebih teliti 
dibandingkan dengan pembunuhan atau berpaling dari Islam. Orang yang 
hendak melakukan perjalanan ke negara-negara Islam harus terlebih dahulu
 memahami “budaya Timur” dan harus mengetahui perspektif Muslim mengenai
 hukum jika tidak ingin mendatangkan masalah atau mendapat masalah.
Islam tidak memahami dirinya sebagai agama 
anugerah, agama kasih dan yang tidak mementingkan diri sendiri, namun 
sebagai agama yang berdasar pada hukum Syariah. Islam tidak ingin 
mempertajam hati nurani orang atau memerintahkan pengampunan dosa, namun
 hendak memberlakukan hukum yang berdasarkan pada retribusi.
Islam dapat mencapai kekuatan penuhnya hanya 
jika pada saat yang sama Islam adalah agama dan juga negara. Hukum 
islami mewajibkan pihak-pihak yang berotoritas untuk memberlakukan hukum
 Islam. Islam dalam bentuk yang sepenuhnya haruslah berupa agama negara 
atau sebuah negara yang religius. Qur’an menginspirasi kaum 
fundamentalis Islam untuk  mengklaim bahwa bersembahyang, berpuasa, 
membayar zakat, ibadah haji dan berjuang demi Allah bukanlah Islam 
seutuhnya. Ini hanya bisa direalisasikan ketika keputusan-keputusan dan 
hukuman-hukuman dilaksanakan dengan ketat.
Islam berdasarkan pada takut kepada Allah dan 
hukuman-hukumanNya. Beberapa Muslim menyebut hukum retribusi (qisas) 
sebagai Syariah yang sebenarnya atau elemen utama Syariah. Qur’an 
menyatakan: Penghukuman (qisas) adalah hidupmu! (Sura 2:129)
Mazhab-mazhab hukum Islam membagi berbagai penghukuman ke dalam tiga kategori:

I. Penghukuman yang berat (hudud)  

Penghukuman-penghukuman yang berat didaftarkan 
dengan terperinci dalam Qur’an sebagai wahyu Allah dan dipandang sebagai
 kewajiban yang tidak dapat dihindari. Hukuman berat dijatuhkan atas 
serangan terhadap Islam, demikian pula hubungan seks sebelum pernikahan,
 perzinahan, perkosaan, penghinaan dan pencurian.

II.  Hukuman retribusi (qisas)

Hukuman retribusi dijatuhkan pada pembunuhan, 
bunuh diri, kecelakaan, juga melukai tubuh. Dapat berupa retribusi 
terhadap kejahatan tersebut atau membayar uang darah sebagai hukuman 
pengganti.

III. Tindakan-tindakan pendisiplinan (ta’zir)

Tindakan-tindakan pendisiplinan tidak dimuat 
dalam Qur’an dan merupakan keputusan para hakim pada masa-masa awal 
Islam. Dewasa ini negara-negara Islam menetapkan penghukuman-penghukuman
 juga atas kejahatan-kejahatan ini. Penghukuman seperti itu umumnya 
tidak didiskusikan oleh mazhab-mazhab yurisprudensi.
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[proletar] Re: cangkok pete fiq, bangun! (Dipo yang gila tidak bisa membedakan antara

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
Ya goblok.

Beli kaos di Schiphol.

Kemungkinan kaos untuk turis congekan yang pake teks I love  Amsterdam atau 
teks sebangsanya untuk dibangga-banggain sebagai bukti pernah ke Amsterdam...

Tapi di Supermarket Digros, Aldi atau Lidle atau Hoogvliet harga kaso cuman 2 
perak atau tiga tiga perak yang pake benang elastan.


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, johny_indon johny_indon@... wrote:

 
 
 elu yg jelas2 ngibul.
 gua beli kaos non branded di duty free schiphol aja udah diatas 10 euro.
 kalo yg branded kayak kaos hard rock cafe itu bisa 30an euro.
 
 2 euro itu cuman 24 rebu perak.
 elu punya duit segitu di indonesia cuman dapet kaos kaki.
 kayaknya elu sering beli kaos di toko loak di leiden sono ya.
 makanya kalo hidup melarat jangan sok makmur.
 
 kalo coklat 5 euro sekotak emang bener, tapi kotak korek api.
 
 dasar pembohong kelas ketombe lu.
 
 --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote:
 
  Ngibul..
  
  Kaos di negeri Belanda cuma sekitar 2 atau 3 euro, gantungan konci 
  paling-paling satu setengah euro dan coklat juga paling-paling lima euro 
  sekotak..
  
  Dan tiap orang Belanda disamping gaji atau pensiun atau tunjangan, termasuk 
  gelandangan, juga dapat uang untuk pergi pakansi tiap tahun.
 







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[proletar] Jadi orang Islam udah pada ngaku...

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Jadi orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka sudah keteteran dan cuma bisa 
ngerja'in orang, mengolok-olok orang dengan dusta, fitnah dan pameran 
kebusukan fikiran mereka.

Artinya bahwa mereka tidak punya argumen untuk membantah apa yang saya katakan 
yaitu bahwa agama biadab Islam yang mereka anut itu hanya berdasarkan omong 
kosong dan kibulan orang Arab primitif doang.

Artinya pula bahwa mereka itu telah kena tipu oleh orang Arab primitif.

Dan bahwa  mereka itu tidak  punya harga diri, karena walaupun mereka tahu 
bahwa mereka itu kena tipu tapi mereka tetap saja menjadikan buku taik anjing 
al-Mushaf sebagai kitab suci dan tetap saja sembah Allah yang tidak berbukti 
ada itu.



 
 





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[proletar] CNN: More protests break out in several areas in Bahrain

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

CNN.com 
 
More protests break out in several areas in Bahrain

Sitra, Bahrain (CNN) -- Protesters began to gather in several areas of Bahrain 
Friday morning, a day after a violent police and military crackdown left four 
dead and scores wounded.

What seemed like thousands of people -- some chanting anti-government slogans 
-- marched in the town of Sitra to attend the funerals of three of the four 
people killed Thursday.

With our souls, with our blood, we sacrifice ourselves for the martyrs, some 
chanted.

Many in the crowd carried black flags or Bahraini flags, and some referred to 
security forces involved in the crackdown as criminals.

There was no police in the area, but a helicopter hovered above keeping a 
watchful eye on the procession that stretched a half a mile down a road.

The crowd chanted praises to the people killed in the protests calling them 
martyrs and also leveled a strong message calling for death to Bahrain's ruling 
family.

Demonstrators also gathered in an area of the village of Karzakan for a funeral 
for another victim, about 7 miles west of the capital city Manama, witnesses 
said.

In total, six people have died since protesters took to the streets Monday 
demanding reform and the introduction of a constitutional monarchy in Bahrain.

The tiny but strategically critical island nation of Bahrain is an American 
ally and houses the headquarters of the U.S. Navy's Fifth Fleet.

On Thursday, police stormed protesters gathered in Manama's Pearl Roundabout, a 
landmark circle in the city center.

Witnesses described a blunt show of force by police who fired pellets, rubber 
bullets and tear gas to force out protesters who had been rallying and, in some 
cases, camping out throughout the week.

Zainab Farda said she was in a large tent for women and children with her two 
daughters, ages 6 and 8, when they woke up to tear gas. She said they placed 
onions over their noses, but had to flee after security forces set fire to 
their tent.

After all that has happened, we are not going to quit, Farda said. If we 
quit now, we're going to die.

While Bahrain defended its actions, the raid brought criticism from human 
rights groups and calls for restraint from officials in United Nations, the 
United States and the United Kingdom.

The U.K. Foreign Office said it was reviewing Britain's arms sales to Bahrain 
after the violence.

This government takes extremely seriously its arms export responsibilities, 
said Alistair Burt, Britain's minister for the Middle East and North Africa. 
We closely consider allegations of human rights abuses. We will not authorize 
any exports which, we assess, might provoke or prolong regional or internal 
conflicts, which might be used to facilitate internal repression.

Abdul Latif Bin Rashid Al Zayani, the Bahraini special envoy to the U.S., 
defended his country's actions in an interview with CNN Thursday night.

I have explained that the force used was really proportional, we had to use 
it, because it was necessary, and the process started to really destruct our 
national economy and scaring the people, he said.

Bahrain is one of the latest countries in the Middle East and North Africa to 
face a surge of dissent following the revolts that toppled longtime autocrats 
in Tunisia and Egypt.

CNN's Nic Robertson, Tim Lister and journalist Mansoor Al-Jamri in Bahrain 
contributed to this report.
 
 
Links referenced within this article


 
Find this article at:
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/02/18/bahrain.protests/index.html?hpt=T1
 
 
 
© 2008 Cable News Network.






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[proletar] Angin perubahan melanda Timur Tengah

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Angin perubahan melanda Timur Tengah

Tapi hingga pagi ini masih nggak banyak tuh orang Islam yang pada
dungu-dungu kayak anjing
seperti Dipo,
johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus,
Tawang dll. yang buka bacot tentang kejadian di Timur Tengah itu.

Nggak heran...

Pertama, karena dengan otak mereka yang sudah pada rusak berat, jelas
mereka
tidak tahu betapa pentingnya apa yang terjadi di Timur Tengah untuk dunia,
artinya juga
untuk Indonesia.

Kedua, dengan otak mereka yang sudah pada rusak berat pengetahuan
dasar tentang
Timur Tengah juga nyaris nihil.

Jadi ya pada melongo kayak babi.





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[proletar] Sebuah Perbandingan Dari Pendiri Dua Agama Terbesar Di Dunia

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik siap murtad
Sebuah Perbandingan Dari Pendiri Dua Agama Terbesar Di 
Duniahttp://answering-islam.org/indonesian/isu-isu-terkini/perbandingan-pendiri-dua-agama.html





Oleh: Silas
 
Pendahuluan

Yesus mendirikan Kekristenan, Muhammad 
mendirikan Islam. Ini adalah dua agama terbesar di dunia dengan 
masing-masing sekitar 1,8 milyar dan 1,1 milyar anggota. Tak diragukan 
lagi, kedua tokoh tersebut telah mempengaruhi umat manusia dengan cara 
yang luar biasa. Sebagai pemimpin agama mereka mengemukakan banyak 
prinsip-prinsip untuk kehidupan.

Kedua agama ini mempunyai banyak kesamaan 
tertentu, namun sangat berbeda dalam aspek yang lain. Seperti apakah 
karakter dari pendirinya? Bagaimanakah mereka dibandingkan satu dengan 
yang lain? Apa yang dikatakan Alkitab dan Al-Quran mengenai Yesus? 
Apakah dorongan yang muncul akibat dari ajaran dan tindakan mereka 
kepada para pengikut mereka? Artikel ini menjawab pertanyaan-pertanyaan 
tersebut dengan membandingkan dan membedakan beberapa dari tindakan dan 
ajaran mereka.

Catatan: Saya akan menggunakan Alkitab 
Terjemahan Baru dari LAI sebagai sumber untuk perkataan dan tindakan 
Yesus. Saya akan mengutip dari Quran, biasanya terjemahan N.J. Dawood 
[2], dan Hadis Al Bukhari [3] dan Muslim [4], Life of Muhammad 
(Kehidupan Muhammad) [5] yang diterjemahkan oleh A. Guillaume dari 
Sirat Rasulallah karya Ibnu Ishaq, Sejarah Tabari [6], dan Sunan Abu 
Dawud [7]. Secara umum, Hadis Al Bukhari dan Muslim adalah perkataan dan
 perbuatan Muhammad, dan diakui sebagai yang paling orisinil (abash) 
oleh kesarjanaan Islam. Sirat Rasulallah oleh Ibnu Ishaq diterima 
sebagai biografi panjang yang terbaik tentang Muhammad, dan sejarah 
Tabari merupakan keterangan sejarah terbaik mengenai Muhammad dan jemaah
 Islam mula-mula.

Beberapa kata-kata terakhir dari masing-masing menjelang kematiannya

Yesus: Ya Bapa, ampunilah mereka, sebab mereka
 tidak tahu apa yang mereka perbuat - Lukas 23:34. [Diucapkan saat 
menjelang kematian di kayu salib di Kalvari setelah dikhianati dan 
dijatuhi hukuman mati dengan alasan yang tidak masuk akal]
Muhammad: Kiranya Allah mengutuk Kaum Yahudi 
dan Kristiani karena mereka telah membuat tempat untuk penyembahan di 
kuburan para nabi. Bukhari, vol 1, no. 427 [Muhammad telah diracuni 
beberapa tahun sebelumnya oleh seorang wanita Yahudi yang suaminya 
dibunuh oleh Kaum Muslim, dan racun tersebut secara perlahan telah 
menunjukkan efeknya. Dia mengucapkan kata-kata ini saat menjelang 
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[proletar] CNN: More protests break out in several areas in Bahrain

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
 
CNN.com 

More protests break out in several areas in Bahrain

Sitra, Bahrain (CNN) -- Protesters began to gather in several areas of Bahrain 
Friday morning, a day after a violent police and military crackdown left four 
dead and scores wounded.

What seemed like thousands of people -- some chanting anti-government slogans 
-- marched in the town of Sitra to attend the funerals of three of the four 
people killed Thursday.

With our souls, with our blood, we sacrifice ourselves for the martyrs, some 
chanted.

Many in the crowd carried black flags or Bahraini flags, and some referred to 
security forces involved in the crackdown as criminals.

There was no police in the area, but a helicopter hovered above keeping a 
watchful eye on the procession that stretched a half a mile down a road.

The crowd chanted praises to the people killed in the protests calling them 
martyrs and also leveled a strong message calling for death to Bahrain's ruling 
family.

Demonstrators also gathered in an area of the village of Karzakan for a funeral 
for another victim, about 7 miles west of the capital city Manama, witnesses 
said.

In total, six people have died since protesters took to the streets Monday 
demanding reform and the introduction of a constitutional monarchy in Bahrain.

The tiny but strategically critical island nation of Bahrain is an American 
ally and houses the headquarters of the U.S. Navy's Fifth Fleet.

On Thursday, police stormed protesters gathered in Manama's Pearl Roundabout, a 
landmark circle in the city center.

Witnesses described a blunt show of force by police who fired pellets, rubber 
bullets and tear gas to force out protesters who had been rallying and, in some 
cases, camping out throughout the week.

Zainab Farda said she was in a large tent for women and children with her two 
daughters, ages 6 and 8, when they woke up to tear gas. She said they placed 
onions over their noses, but had to flee after security forces set fire to 
their tent.

After all that has happened, we are not going to quit, Farda said. If we 
quit now, we're going to die.

While Bahrain defended its actions, the raid brought criticism from human 
rights groups and calls for restraint from officials in United Nations, the 
United States and the United Kingdom.

The U.K. Foreign Office said it was reviewing Britain's arms sales to Bahrain 
after the violence.

This government takes extremely seriously its arms export responsibilities, 
said Alistair Burt, Britain's minister for the Middle East and North Africa. 
We closely consider allegations of human rights abuses. We will not authorize 
any exports which, we assess, might provoke or prolong regional or internal 
conflicts, which might be used to facilitate internal repression.

Abdul Latif Bin Rashid Al Zayani, the Bahraini special envoy to the U.S., 
defended his country's actions in an interview with CNN Thursday night.

I have explained that the force used was really proportional, we had to use 
it, because it was necessary, and the process started to really destruct our 
national economy and scaring the people, he said.

Bahrain is one of the latest countries in the Middle East and North Africa to 
face a surge of dissent following the revolts that toppled longtime autocrats 
in Tunisia and Egypt.

CNN's Nic Robertson, Tim Lister and journalist Mansoor Al-Jamri in Bahrain 
contributed to this report.
 
 
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[proletar] CNN: Death toll climbs as protests enter 2nd week in Yemen

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
Death toll climbs as protests enter 2nd week in Yemen

From Mohammed Jamjoom, CNN
February 18, 2011 -- Updated 1147 GMT (1947 HKT)

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

* NEW: Pro- and anti-government demonstrators clash
* Death toll from Thursday's violence grows to four
* Yemen has seen nearly a week of daily demonstrations as protests sweep 
the region
* Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh has been in power for 32 years

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Sanaa, Yemen (CNN) -- Thousands of anti-government demonstrators clashed with 
pro-government groups on the streets of the Yemeni capital of Sanaa following 
Friday's midday prayers, ushering in a second week of unrest to the Middle 
Eastern nation.

The protesters quickly gathered around Sanaa University as government security 
forces blocked some streets and medics waited for potential casualties. They 
didn't have to wait long as pro-government protesters plunged into the crowd, 
throwing rocks and brandishing sticks.

The developments came as hospital and local government officials upped the 
death toll from Thursday's violence to four people.

It was unclear whether a call for calm in the midst of the violence by the 
country's most influential religious cleric, Sheikh Abdulmajeed Al-Zindani, 
would be heeded. On Thursday, he said religious clerics in the country were 
calling for a unity government.
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An official government source expressed his surprise at the attention the 
unrest was generating worldwide, accusing some of the media of false, 
misleading and biased information, the state-run Saba news agency reported 
Thursday.

The Committee to Protect Journalists reported that at least four 
photojournalists were attacked, beaten and had their cameras confiscated by 
pro-government supporters at the protests.

The latest casualties bring the death toll from Wednesday and Thursday in Aden 
to five, after shots were fired into a crowd of anti-government protesters in 
the Al-Mansoora district.

Aref al-Qubati, a participant who said one of the victims was a friend, told 
CNN that police fired to disperse protesters.

Longtime Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh has called for an investigation 
into the violence in Aden and Vice President Abdu Rabo Mansour Hadi met with 
the governor Thursday, Saba reported.

The top European Union foreign policy official, Catherine Ashton, is very 
concerned about the events in Aden, her representative said in a statement 
Thursday.

Ashton strongly deplores the loss of life and violence and calls for calm and 
restraint of all parties, the statement said, calling for genuine, 
comprehensive and inclusive national dialogue.

And in Yemen's capital, Sanaa, at least 20 people were injured in clashes there 
between stone-throwing pro- and anti-government demonstrators, opposition 
lawmaker Ahmed Hashid said Thursday. Police at the scene did not try to 
intervene, he said.

In Taiz, thousands have been taking part in demonstrations that entered a 
seventh day Friday.

Saleh met with his National Defense Council on Wednesday to discuss 
developments in Yemen, Saba reported.

The council stressed all should practice their rights according to the 
constitution, in a peaceful way and without violence, chaos, sabotage and 
lawbreaking.

Saleh also spoke on Wednesday with Bahrain's King Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifah, 
whose country is also embroiled in unrest, Saba reported.

He pointed out that there are schemes aimed at plunging the region into chaos 
and violence targeting the nation's security and the stability of its 
countries, according to Saba. Those who commit acts of disorder and vandalism 
(are) simply implementing suspicious foreign agendas ...

The report didn't suggest who might be behind the agendas.

Yemen is among several Middle Eastern nations convulsed by daily protests after 
the revolts that toppled the leaders of Tunisia and Egypt in recent weeks. 
Anti-government protesters have called for the ouster of Saleh, who has ruled 
the country since 1978.

The country has been wracked by a Shiite Muslim uprising, a U.S.-aided 
crackdown on al Qaeda operatives, a secessionist movement in its 
once-independent south and a looming shortage of water.

In an attempt to quell growing discontent, Saleh has announced that he won't 
seek another term in 2013 and would postpone parliamentary elections scheduled 
for April to allow more time for reform talks with the opposition.





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[proletar] CNN: Thousands gather in Egypt's Tahrir Square for 'Day of Victory'

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
Thousands gather in Egypt's Tahrir Square for 'Day of Victory'
By the CNN Wire Staff
February 18, 2011 -- Updated 1209 GMT (2009 HKT)


A military band marches into Cairo's Tahrir Square on Friday during planned 
Victory Day celebrations.
STORY HIGHLIGHTS

* NEW: Organizers are calling for the release of political detainees
* They also want an end to Egypt's state of emergency
* The military has been in charge since the February 11 resignation of 
Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak

Cairo, Egypt (CNN) -- Waving flags and beating drums, thousands gathered in 
Cairo's Tahrir Square on Friday for a Day of Victory rally to celebrate the 
one-week anniversary of the ouster of former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.

In what was a symbol of the dramatic change taking hold across the society, 
Sheikh Yusuf Qaradawi, a Muslim cleric banned from entering the country during 
the Mubarak years, delivered the Friday sermon to the throng and the startling 
appearance was broadcast on state television.

O Egyptians, Coptic Christians and Muslims, this is your day, all of you. 
January 25 was your revolution, said Qaradawi, who has a program called 
Shariah and Life on the Al-Jazeera television network.

Qaradawi -- who returned to his Egyptian homeland on Thursday -- said the 
youth of the revolution has lifted the head of this country and made us proud 
once again.
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They are the new partisans of God. These are the young people of Egypt. The 
revolution is not over yet. The revolution just began. We need to rebuild 
Egypt. Be aware of those who want to take it away from you, he said.

Qaradawi insisted that the money stolen by the Mubarak regime be returned to 
the Egyptian people and praised the martyrs who died in the upheaval and for 
the sake of the religion.

The march at the square -- the epicenter of 18 days of protests that led to 
Mubarak stepping down -- is also meant to remind the military that Egyptians 
were watching the ongoing reform process.

Celebrations are expected in other cities across the nation as well.

Organizers said in a statement that the event was held to both celebrate the 
revolution and call for a number of demands that are yet to be fulfilled.

Some of those demands include freeing political detainees, issuing a statement 
on lost protesters, ending the state of emergency, holding corrupt officials 
accountable and tracing their assets, the statement said.

The military has been in charge since February 11, when Mubarak's resignation 
was announced. Top military leaders dissolved parliament, suspended the 
constitution and vowed to remain in charge until elections can be held in six 
months or so.

The sheikh praised the armed forces' statements on protecting the revolution 
and their promises for a democratic transition of power and hailed the 
nation's courage and unity.

The people changed so God changed their destiny. The state of fear crumbled. 
The old Pharaohs used to scare people and the old regime did the same but the 
young people insisted and they raised our heads with pride, said Qaradawi, who 
has lived in Qatar and has a Qatari passport.

Egyptians stood together, Muslims and Christians, and the revolution brought 
down the sectarianism that they (the old regime) promoted for so long. We saw 
Christians protecting their Muslim brothers while they prayed in Tahrir Square 
during the revolution.





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[proletar] CNN: Raucous supporters rally around Libyan leader after day of violence

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Raucous supporters rally around Libyan leader after day of violence
By the CNN Wire Staff

February 18, 2011 -- Updated 1052 GMT (1852 HKT)

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Protests, arrests continue in Libya
STORY HIGHLIGHTS

* NEW: State TV shows throngs of raucous supporters around Gadhafi's limo 
in Tripoli
* Security forces killed 7 after protesters got violent, a pro-Gadhafi 
report says
* Using social media, Libyans called A Day of Rage and protested in 
several cities
* A source tells CNN that Gadhafi is acutely aware of what is unfolding in 
the region

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(CNN) -- Raucous pro-government demonstrators took to the streets of Libya's 
capital overnight Thursday, state television reported, hours after at least 
seven were killed in clashes between security forces and those opposed to the 
North African nation's longtime leader Moammar Gadhafi.

Images from state television, labeled as live at what would be early Friday 
morning, featured men chanting pro-Gadhafi slogans, waving flags and singing 
around the Libyan leader's limousine as it crept through Tripoli.

Scores of supportive demonstrators packed the roadway and held up pictures of 
their leader, in power for four decades, as fireworks occasionally dotted the 
night sky. At multiple points, Gadhafi playfully popped up from his vehicle's 
sun roof to acknowledge the support.

That positive scene -- as well as reports out Thursday that Libya had released 
110 political prisoners and would convene a committee to examine major changes 
to its government -- appeared a far cry from what had happened earlier in the 
day in Benghazi. There, in Libya's second largest city, human rights groups and 
protesters themselves claimed they were attacked by pro-government security 
forces.

Demonstrations also took place elsewhere in Libya following calls posted on 
websites for a Day of Rage on Thursday, the five-year anniversary of an 
incident in which security forces killed at least 12 protesters.

Over the last several days, confrontations between anti-government factions and 
security forces have contributed to at least 21 deaths in the North African 
nation -- a figure that CNN, which does not have journalists in Libya, could 
not independently confirm. Officials at international human rights groups have 
said that they fear that death toll may be too low.
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Despite movement in recent years toward free expression, information is still 
difficult to get out of Libya. Moammar Gadhafi's government retains control 
over most of the nation's media and monitors and censors the fledgling private 
media outlets.

Ahmed Elgasir, a researcher at the Geneva, Switzerland-based Libyan Human 
Rights Solidarity, said that serious clashes between protesters and security 
forces occurred Thursday in Benghazi, located on Libya's eastern Mediterranean 
coast.

Citing an unnamed security source, the pro-Gadhafi publication Quryna reported 
that seven people were killed and a number of others wounded when security 
forces used live ammunition after demonstrators became violent.

The report claimed that protesters targeted government buildings, burned police 
stations and inflicted other damage around Benghazi, Libya's second-largest 
city.

A protester told CNN by phone that about 3,000 people gathered after midday 
prayers at the seaside corniche and marched toward the courthouse. The 
demonstrator, whose name has been withheld for safety reasons, said police -- 
some without uniforms and others in riot gear -- wielded knives and fired live 
ammunition to disperse the crowds.

The protester said that the crowds, angered by state television's portrayal of 
previous pro-Gadhafi demonstrations, grew to the thousands. They chanted 
anti-Gadhafi slogans and Peace!

Mohammed Ali Abdallah of the opposition National Front for the Salvation of 
Libya said that, as night fell Thursday, he still was receiving reports from 
his sources of ongoing clashes in Benghazi. That included reports, he said, of 
snipers targeting protesters.

The day before, at least 38 people were injured when police fired tear gas and 
used batons to disperse crowds in Benghazi, Quryna said

Novelist Idris al-Mismari told the Al-Jazeera network that plainclothes 
security officers used tear gas, batons and hot water on the crowds. During his 
live interview, the line went dead. Witnesses told Human Rights Watch that he 
was arrested then.

One of the protesters likened the situation in Libya to Egypt, telling Human 
Rights Watch that they are sending baltaqiyyas (thugs) to beat us.

Abdallah also reported protests in other towns across Libya -- Darna, Ijdadia, 
Kufra, Zintan and Al-Bayda. Medical sources told him five people died in 
Albeyda, he said.

Abdulla Darrat, spokesman for Enough Gaddafi, an anti-Gadhafi Libyan exile 
group in the 

[proletar] Aljazeera: Fresh protests hit Iraqi cities

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
Middle East
Fresh protests hit Iraqi cities

Thousands turn out across country, demanding better service delivery and jobs 
from government.

Last Modified: 18 Feb 2011 11:06 GMT

Earlier protests in the towns of Kut and Sulaimaniyah claimed the lives of at 
least three people [Reuters]

Violent protests have taken place at various locations in Iraq, with 
anti-government protesters taking out rallies against corruption, poor basic 
services and high unemployment.

In Basra, the country's second largest city, about 1,000 people rallied on 
Friday, demanding better service delivery from the government, jobs and 
improved pensions.

They called for the provincial governor to resign, and blocked a bridge for an 
hour. Protesters shouted slogans saying that while Friday's protests would be 
peaceful, ones held in the future may not be.

We're living in miserable conditions, no electricity, dirty, muddy streets. We 
have to make changes. We should not be silent, said Qais Jabbar, one of the 
protesters.

I have filed my papers with the provincial council but have gotten no job 
until now, said Hussein Abdel, an unemployed 25-year-old. There is corruption 
in Basra - they have to start taking care of this city and must stop making 
fake promises.

Protests in Kurdish region

Protests were also held in the autonomous Kurdish region of northern Iraq, 
which generally enjoys more economic prosperity than other parts of the country.

A Kurdish regional opposition party's offices were attacked by looters, 
officials said on Friday.

Seven offices of the Goran party in the northern Kurdish provinces of Arbil and 
Dohuk were attacked, in what officials say was a response to an attack on the 
ruling Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) offices in Sulaimaniyah a day earlier. 
Two people were killed in that protest, after security forces opened fire on 
demonstrators.

Iraqi and Kurdish leaders have pledged to bring the perpetrators of the 
violence to justice. They have also attempted to head off the protests by 
slashing the salaries of ministers and MPs and diverting cash earmarked for the 
purchase of fighter jets to buy food for the needy.

On Thursday, one person was killed during protests in the southern city of Kut. 
Forty-seven others were injured in the protests, prompting New York-based Human 
Rights Watch to call for an independent and transparent investigation.

Protests were also held on Friday in the southern city of Nasiriyah and 
elsewhere in the country.

Nouri al-Maliki, the Iraqi prime minister, said on Thursday that peaceful 
protests were the right of all Iraqis, but warned that those inciting violence 
would be brought to justice.

I welcome those who demonstrate peacefully for their legitimate rights, but I 
am not in favour of those who exploit those claims to incite riots, he told 
reporters in Baghdad.





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[proletar] Re: cangkok pete fiq, bangun! (Dipo yang gila tidak bisa membedakan antara

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik kim
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote:
 Ya goblok.
 Beli kaos di Schiphol.
Kemungkinan kaos untuk turis congekan yang pake teks I 
love  Amsterdam atau teks sebangsanya untuk dibangga-
banggain sebagai bukti pernah ke Amsterdam...

...

ya gak heran kalo johny o'on itu tukang ptantang-ptenteng;
dia mo be'kicau diantara kolega, udah pernah ke Eropa.
Tapi yang jelas mah bukan plancong klas-klas kitaan dah.

Masak sih mo bikin cerita sama kolega udah jlajah Eropa,
padahal dia khan cuman turun naek kereta dan bis doang 
he he he

Dia lihat pemandangan dari jendela bis dan kereta  oh
bgitu Eropa itu  cuman itu aja. Padahal kalo jenis asli
plancong dan aventurir mah keadaan bukan seperti disebuah
danau yg selalu tenang spt itu.

Musti tau, pgimana itu rasanya brantem sama beruang Grizly, 
karna kita kemah di utan Eropa sana dan diserang. Musti
tau juga pgimana rasanya masang obor buat hadepin se-
gerombolan anjing srigala, misalkan.

Juga, musti tau pgimana bikin api diantara tiupan badai
salju dan bikin tempat perlindungan dari balok es. Dan
jangan coba-coba, kalo lapar, pengen makan nasi dan sam-
bel sagala coy ! Makan itu daging mentah klinci dan Elan
yg masih segar, mentah.

Nah kalo udah ngalemin petualangan spt diatas, boleh aja
ptantang-ptenteng udah tau Eropa.











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[proletar] Hidayatullah: Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
Bagus dah..

Tinggal kita tunggu kapan orang Indonesia rame-rame berebut meniru Wawan dan 
mengambil al-Mushaf lalu menginjak-injaknya dihadapan keluarganya..

Ayuh Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, 
Tawang dll. mulai dah niru Wawan..

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Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad
 

Senin, 14 Februari 2011

Hidayatullah.com--Nabi Muhammad SAW memiliki akhlak yang mulia (Khuluqun 
`azim). Tak ada cela sedikitpun. Dan, tak ada orang yang mampu menandingi 
akhlaknya. Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an.

Karena itu, Allah SWT menyuruh hamba-Nya agar menjadikan Rasulullah sebagai 
idola (Uswatun hasanah) dalam segala aspek kehidupan; rumah tangga, sosial, 
bahkan politik sekalipun. Akhlak Rasulullah luas, tak hanya mencakup satu aspek 
saja.  

Hal itu dikatakan Ketua Umum Dewan Dakwah Islamiyah Indonesia (DDII), Ustadz 
Syuhada Bahri, Ahad (13/2). Tapi, sayangnya, kata Syuhada, jaman sekarang, tak 
banyak orang yang mau menjadikan Nabi Muhammad sebagai idola, panutan hidup. 

Masyarakat, kata Syuhada, lebih suka mengidolakan seseorang yang berbau 
materialistik dan hedonistik. Lihat saja, ujarnya, para artis yang begitu 
digandrungi oleh berbagai lapisan masyarakat. Bahkan, menurutnya, gaya para 
artis; dari pakaian, kendaraan, cara bicara dan sebagainya selalu diikuti. Hari 
ini, misalnya, keluar di layar kaca, besoknya sudah booming di pasaran.   

Sedangkan, jelas Syuhada, tidak dengan Nabi Muhammad. Pola hidup beliau 
sekarang justru dianggap kolot dan tidak jamani. Lebih dari itu, kata Syuhada, 
jika ada yang mau mengikuti cara hidup Nabi Muhammad, jenggot atau celana di 
atas lutut, misalnya, justru dianggap teroris, radikalis atau cap tak kalah 
tendensius lainnya. Hal itu, katanya, justru menjadikan orang jauh bahkan takut 
untuk mengikuti jejak Rasulullah.

Karena itu, Syuhada berpesan kepada umat Islam agar mau menjadikan Nabi 
Muhammad sebagai idola.

Jadikanlah Rasulullah sebagai idola, panutan hidup dalam sebagai aspek 
kehidupan, katanya. Kendati demikian, menurutnya, hal itu tidak mudah, butuh 
tarbiyah yang terus menerus, tanpa henti. * 

 





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[proletar] Jadi di Eropa orang Islam pada murtad, di Indonesia mulai tidak mengidolakan

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Jadi di Eropa banyak orang Islam yang murtad, yang muda-muda pâda  ngentot kiri 
kanan kayak orang kafir, di Indonesia mulai tidak mengidolakan nabi anjing 
Muhammad...

Makin cepat orang Islam sadar makin bagus..






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[proletar] :Naughty Retro Record Covers Photos!

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Spicy Janki
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[proletar] YAPI Dinilai Sering Mendakwahkan Syi'ah di Masyarakat

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
Gereja orang Nasrani dibakarin dan orang Nasrani dibunuhin. 

Ahmadiyah dibunuhin..

Sekarang syiah mulai digerecokin.. 

Islam itu, saya bilang dan saya ulang adalah laknat buat umma manusia, artinya 
juga buat orang Islam sendiri.

Kamis, 17 Februari 2011

Hidayatulalah.com--Majelis Ulama Indonesia (MUI) memberi bocoran dari hasil 
investigasi yang dilakukan atas kasus kekerasan di Al-Ma'Hadul Islami (YAPI), 
Pasuruan. Menurut  Ketua MUI Jawa Timur, KH. Abdussomad Bukhori,  konflik 
seperti itu memang telah terjadi sejak lama.

Sejak YAPI baru berdiri dan masih kecil, sebenarnya konflik telah terjadi, 
meski masih tahap kecil, ujarnya kepada hidayatullah.com Kamis, (17/2).

Menurut Abdussomad, lambat laun, masalah itu semakin besar, dan terjadi seperti 
kasus kemarin. 

Konflik itu, kata Abdussomad, disebabkan karena YAPI kerap menyebarkan paham 
syi'ah kepada masyarakat.

Mereka (YAPI) sering berdakwah paham Syi'ah kepada masyarakat. Dalam 
dakwahnya, mereka tidak mengakui keberadaan para sahabat Nabi, seperti Abu 
Bakar, Umar, Ustman, paparnya.

Tidak hanya itu, jelas Abdussomad, mereka juga kerap meyebarkan brosur  tentang 
Syi'ah.

Mungkin itu yang menyebabkan umat Islam di sana marah, apalagi di sana 
mayoritas sunni, ujarnya. Sekarang saja, di Pasuruan, tambahnya, praktik nikah 
mut'ah mulai marak terjadi.

Abdussomad tidak sedang mengarang cerita. Informasi penting itu ia dapatkan 
dari salah satu Ketua Kelompok Ahlussunah wal Jama'ah (Aswaja). Kendati 
demikian, dalam kejadian kemarin, kata Abdussomad, bukan atas instruksi Aswaja, 
melainkan aksi spontanitas massa biasa. 

Itu bermula karena saling ejek, kemudian berbuntut hingga aksi pelemparan, 
paparnya.

Agar kejadian serupa tidak terjadi, Abdussomad meminta pihak YAPI menghentikan 
dakwah Syi'ahnya.

Mestinya dilarang. Tidak boleh menyebarkan ajaran seperti itu, jelasnya.

Apalagi, tambahnya, Pasuruan dan Bangil basis Sunni.

Di sana mayoritas sunni. Kalau ada ajaran Syi'ah disebarkan, otomatis akan 
ditolak, ungkapnya. * 





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[proletar] Youtube: Syiah Laknatulloh_03.flv

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
Youtube: Syiah Laknatulloh_03.flv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5DgPDURTJE





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[proletar] Reuters: Corrected: Defense firms eye billion dollar Mideast deals

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
Corrected: Defense firms eye billion dollar Mideast deals

By Stanley Carvalho  Mahmoud HabboushPosted 2011/02/18 at 6:40 am EST

Feb. 18, 2011 (Corrects reference to oil price rise in 4th paragraph from end 
to show price at highest since September 2008, not 2009) — Global arms 
manufacturers will vie for deals worth billions of dollars at the Middle East's 
largest military expo as unrest sweeping across the region pushes countries to 
beef up security.


ABU DHABI (Reuters) - Global arms manufacturers will vie for deals worth 
billions of dollars at the Middle East's largest military expo as unrest 
sweeping across the region pushes countries to beef up security.

The International Defense Exhibition  Conference (IDEX) opens on Sunday in the 
capital of the United Arab Emirates with some 1,060 companies participating 
including Lockheed Martin Corp , Boeing Co , Dassault Aviation , and Italy's 
Finmeccanica .

At the last IDEX in 2009 more than 900 firms showcased their wares when the 
UAE, the biggest Gulf Arab spender there, announced deals worth 18.5 billion 
dirhams ($5 billion).

The UAE is in the final stages of negotiating arms deals worth billions of 
dollars, Major General Obaid al Ketbi, spokesman for IDEX, told Reuters.

Most of the large projects are in the final tuning stage. We hope the amount 
will be within the range of last time's deals, he said.

Heightened security concerns due to turmoil in the Arab world and escalating 
tensions between the West and Iran could see wealthy oil-producing Gulf states 
ramp up their defense spending.

Crowds have taken to the streets in Libya, Yemen, Iran and Bahrain in recent 
days, inspired by popular revolts in Tunisia and Egypt that saw veteran leaders 
of both countries driven out of office.

Given the current environment, spending levels will remain or may go higher. 
And a lot of technology is expensive, said Theodore Karasik, director, RD at 
the Institute of Near East  Gulf Military Analysis, a Dubai-based think-tank.

Arab countries and Israel have been big buyers of U.S. warplanes, missile 
defense equipment and other weapons in recent years. The U.S. government in 
October announced an arms sale with Saudi Arabia worth as much as $60 billion.

The UAE has been in negotiations since 2008 with France's Dassault to replace 
its existing Mirage-2000 fleet with Rafale warplanes.

The negotiations faltered last year when the UAE requested technical 
information on Boeing's F/A-18E/F Super Hornet. But French and UAE sources have 
suggested that the Rafale negotiations were back on track.

The world's third largest oil exporter has also been negotiating to buy the 
Terminal High Altitude Area Defense, or THAAD, an advanced missile defense 
system developed by Lockheed Martin.

The two deals could be worth as much as $17 billion.

Figures released by the U.S. Congress last year showed that the six Gulf Arab 
states signed arms deals worth about $66.9 billion from 2002 to 2009.

Oil revenues are helping Gulf countries to increase their defense spending with 
oil prices rising toward $103 a barrel on Friday having closed at its highest 
level since September 2008 on Wednesday.

Defense experts say acquisitions were largely aimed at preventing a potential 
attack from Iran, which is at odds with its Arab neighbors and the West over 
its nuclear program.

But Ketbi said UAE acquisitions were not aimed at Iran.

Every state has an armaments plan and we have our own. It's not targeted 
against a particular state.

(Editing by Jason Benham; Editing by Jon Loades-Carter)





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[proletar] Reuters: Bahrain police attack a massacre-top Shia cleric

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Bahrain police attack a massacre-top Shia cleric
Reuters, Friday 18 Feb 2011
Top Shia cleric Sheikh Issa Qassem condemns attack on Bahraini protesters


Bahrain's top Shia cleric said on Friday a police attack on protesters which 
killed five people was a massacre and the government has shut the door to 
dialogue.

Sheikh Issa Qassem, seen as the most revered Shia cleric in Bahrain, spoke at a 
mosque in a Shia village on the northwestern edge of Bahrain, where thousands 
gathered for the Friday prayer.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/5870.aspx






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[proletar] Pada melongo kayak babi..

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq


Angin perubahan melanda Timur Tengah

Tapi hingga siang ini masih nggak banyak tuh orang Islam yang pada
dungu-dungu kayak anjing
seperti Dipo,
johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus,
Tawang dll. yang buka bacot tentang kejadian di Timur Tengah itu.

Nggak heran...

Pertama, karena dengan otak mereka yang sudah pada rusak berat, jelas
mereka
tidak tahu betapa pentingnya apa yang terjadi di Timur Tengah untuk dunia,
artinya juga
untuk Indonesia.

Kedua, dengan otak mereka yang sudah pada rusak berat pengetahuan
dasar tentang
Timur Tengah juga nyaris nihil.

Jadi ya pada melongo kayak babi.





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[proletar] Fw Reuters: Apple's Steve Jobs at tech CEO meeting with Obama

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik rezameutia
obama disamping merekrut steve jobs (apple), eric schmidt (google), larry 
ellison (oracle), mark zuckerberg (facebook), juga merekrut paul otellini 
(intel), semuanya dibawah pimpinan jeffrey immelt (general electric).  bill 
gates nggak dipake.

para ceo dari high tech diharapkan dapat membantu recovery ekonomi amerika dan 
menekan pengangguran yang saat ini mencapai 9%.



===
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/18/us-obama-meeting-jobs-idUSTRE71G3JH20110218


Apple's Steve Jobs at tech CEO meeting with Obama

 
By Matt Spetalnick and Gabriel Madway
WOODSIDE, California | Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:46am EST
(Reuters) - Apple Inc.chief executive Steve Jobs, on medical leave from the 
company he co-founded, attended a meeting of technology industry leaders with 
U.S. President Barack Obama in northern California on Thursday.

Jobs, a pancreatic cancer survivor, was joined by Facebook founder Mark 
Zuckerberg, Google Inc Chief Executive Eric Schmidt, Oracle CEO Larry Ellison 
and other members of the Silicon Valley elite for talks with Obama at a venture 
capitalist's sprawling estate outside San Francisco.

Jobs, 55, a high-tech visionary who has come to embody Apple's turbulent 
history and some of the industry's most cutting-edge products, stepped away 
from the company on medical leave last month. It was the third time in seven 
years that he has taken time out because of health reasons.

Obama's two-day West Coast visit was aimed at promoting technological 
innovation to help boost the struggling U.S. economy and reduce stubbornly high 
unemployment -- considered crucial to his 2012 re-election chances.

Obama met with 12 leaders from technology companies and discussed ways to work 
together to invest in innovation and promote private sector job growth, White 
House Press Secretary Jay Carney said after the meeting.

The president specifically discussed his proposals to invest in research and 
development and expand incentives for companies to grow and hire, along with 
his goal of doubling exports over five years to support millions of American 
jobs, Carney said.

The group also discussed the importance of new investments in education, 
Carney said, adding that Obama expressed a desire to keep the dialogue going.

The meeting was also part of Obama's efforts to mend fences with the U.S. 
business community after his Democrats were routed in the November 
congressional elections, and garner support for a $3.7 trillion budget proposal 
released this week and already facing stiff Republican resistance.

The National Enquirer on Thursday published pictures that purported to show 
Jobs arriving at the Stanford Cancer Center in Palo Alto, California.

A spokeswoman for Stanford Hospital declined to comment.

The company has refused to provide any details on Jobs' health, comment on the 
recent reports or say when he might return from leave.

Shares of Apple closed down 1.3 percent in Thursday's trading.

Jobs was not seen by a pool of White House reporters who were kept out of sight 
of participants at Thursday's working dinner at venture capitalist John Doerr's 
secluded home in the affluent suburb of Woodside. But a White House official 
confirmed that all those on the guest list were present.

HEALTH TROUBLES

Jobs had surgery in 2004 for an unusual type of tumor on his pancreas called a 
neuroendocrine tumor. He had a liver transplant in 2009.









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[proletar] Re: cangkok pete fiq, bangun! (Dipo yang gila tidak bisa membedakan antara

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik rezameutia
2 perak atau 3 perak harga selinting ganja di bulldogs kali?!




--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote:

 Ya goblok.
 
 Beli kaos di Schiphol.
 
 Kemungkinan kaos untuk turis congekan yang pake teks I love  Amsterdam atau 
 teks sebangsanya untuk dibangga-banggain sebagai bukti pernah ke Amsterdam...
 
 Tapi di Supermarket Digros, Aldi atau Lidle atau Hoogvliet harga kaso cuman 2 
 perak atau tiga tiga perak yang pake benang elastan.
 
 
 --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, johny_indon johny_indon@ wrote:
 
  
  
  elu yg jelas2 ngibul.
  gua beli kaos non branded di duty free schiphol aja udah diatas 10 euro.
  kalo yg branded kayak kaos hard rock cafe itu bisa 30an euro.
  
  2 euro itu cuman 24 rebu perak.
  elu punya duit segitu di indonesia cuman dapet kaos kaki.
  kayaknya elu sering beli kaos di toko loak di leiden sono ya.
  makanya kalo hidup melarat jangan sok makmur.
  
  kalo coklat 5 euro sekotak emang bener, tapi kotak korek api.
  
  dasar pembohong kelas ketombe lu.
  
  --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote:
  
   Ngibul..
   
   Kaos di negeri Belanda cuma sekitar 2 atau 3 euro, gantungan konci 
   paling-paling satu setengah euro dan coklat juga paling-paling lima euro 
   sekotak..
   
   Dan tiap orang Belanda disamping gaji atau pensiun atau tunjangan, 
   termasuk gelandangan, juga dapat uang untuk pergi pakansi tiap tahun.
  
 







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[proletar] Re: cangkok pete fiq, bangun! (Dipo yang gila tidak bisa membedakan antara

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Omongan najis yang keluar dari kontol rezameutia yang hidup sengsara karena 
sudah gila..



--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, rezameutia rezameutia@... wrote:

 2 perak atau 3 perak harga selinting ganja di bulldogs kali?!
 
 
 
 
 --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote:
 
  Ya goblok.
  
  Beli kaos di Schiphol.
  
  Kemungkinan kaos untuk turis congekan yang pake teks I love  Amsterdam 
  atau teks sebangsanya untuk dibangga-banggain sebagai bukti pernah ke 
  Amsterdam...
  
  Tapi di Supermarket Digros, Aldi atau Lidle atau Hoogvliet harga kaso cuman 
  2 perak atau tiga tiga perak yang pake benang elastan.
  
  
  --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, johny_indon johny_indon@ wrote:
  
   
   
   elu yg jelas2 ngibul.
   gua beli kaos non branded di duty free schiphol aja udah diatas 10 euro.
   kalo yg branded kayak kaos hard rock cafe itu bisa 30an euro.
   
   2 euro itu cuman 24 rebu perak.
   elu punya duit segitu di indonesia cuman dapet kaos kaki.
   kayaknya elu sering beli kaos di toko loak di leiden sono ya.
   makanya kalo hidup melarat jangan sok makmur.
   
   kalo coklat 5 euro sekotak emang bener, tapi kotak korek api.
   
   dasar pembohong kelas ketombe lu.
   
   --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote:
   
Ngibul..

Kaos di negeri Belanda cuma sekitar 2 atau 3 euro, gantungan konci 
paling-paling satu setengah euro dan coklat juga paling-paling lima 
euro sekotak..

Dan tiap orang Belanda disamping gaji atau pensiun atau tunjangan, 
termasuk gelandangan, juga dapat uang untuk pergi pakansi tiap tahun.
   
  
 







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[proletar] Afghan Rights Fall Short for Christian Converts

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Agama anjing Islam yang dianut Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, 
rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang itu sungguh mengerikan..

Bunuh..buniuh..bunuh...
 
--

February 5, 2011
Afghan Rights Fall Short for Christian Converts
By RAY RIVERA

KABUL, Afghanistan — The jail commander had remained silent as the prisoner, 
Sayed Mussa, told a reporter about his journey from Islam to Christianity: his 
secret baptism nine years earlier, his faith in Jesus Christ and the promise of 
heaven.

But when Mr. Mussa said he believed in the Bible but also loved the Koran's 
teachings, it was too much. So you love the Koran and the Bible? the 
commander broke in incredulously. What kind of love is this?

A guard thumbing Muslim prayer beads squared his shoulders and started to rise. 
You want me to beat him? he asked.

No, no, the commander said, calming himself and waving off the guard. 
Everyone has the right to express themselves.

Such has been Mr. Mussa's life since his arrest for converting to Christianity 
nine months ago in a case that illustrates the contradictions — and limits — of 
religious freedom in Afghanistan.

Afghanistan's Constitution, established in 2004, guarantees that people are 
free to exercise their faith. But it also leaves it open for the courts to 
rely on Shariah, or Islamic law, on issues like conversion. Under some 
interpretations of Shariah, leaving Islam is considered apostasy, an offense 
punishable by hanging.

Mr. Mussa, 46, is staring at the prospect of a death sentence.

Mr. Mussa was arrested after a television station in Kabul broadcast images 
that it claimed showed Westerners baptizing Afghans and other Afghans praying 
at private Christian meetings. The broadcast stoked fears of proselytizing 
brought on by the influx of foreigners since the American-led invasion in 2001. 
Some lawmakers publicly declared that converts should die.

Since his arrest, Mr. Mussa said, guards at one jail slapped him and beat him 
with sticks. At another, two prisoners who learned of the charges against him 
assaulted and raped him, urged on by Taliban inmates.

The Taliban were saying, `He is an infidel, he is filthy and he needs to be 
killed,'  he recalled.

Mr. Mussa has not seen his wife and six children in months, since they fled to 
Pakistan for their safety. He is not even sure if he has a lawyer; he signed 
agreements with two, then never saw them again.

His treatment has been better, he said, since the American Embassy intervened 
on his behalf about two months ago to have him transferred here to the Kabul 
Detention Center.

Diplomats and Afghan officials, meanwhile, have tried to keep it out of the 
spotlight, fearing that publicity, particularly from the local news media, 
could set off an outcry from hard-line conservatives, endangering him and other 
Afghan Christians.

Embassy officials have been quietly trying to find a political solution that 
could allow Mr. Mussa asylum in another country. But after months of 
intermittent measures by diplomats to free him, Christian advocates and members 
of Congress are growing frustrated, not least with the larger issue of 
underwriting an Afghan government that has not ensured religious freedom.

We cannot justify taxpayer dollars going to a government that allows the same 
restrictions on basic human rights that existed under the Taliban, two 
Republican members of Congress, Representatives Trent Franks of Arizona, 
co-chairman of the International Religious Freedom Caucus, and Doug Lamborn of 
Colorado, wrote in a letter last fall to Ambassador Karl W. Eikenberry, urging 
stronger action.

In a sign of the case's delicacy, officials with the Ministry of Justice and 
the Ulema Council, which advises the president on religious matters, refused to 
discuss it, even to talk in general about the law as it applies to conversion, 
which is not mentioned in the Afghan criminal code.

A senior prosecutor closely involved in Mr. Mussa's case, however, suggested 
that officials were feeling the weight of international pressure.

Based on Shariah law, whoever converts from Islam should be sentenced to 
death, said the prosecutor, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. But 
based on international agreements that Afghanistan has accepted and agreed 
with, Sayed Mussa has a chance to be released.

The Afghan government has not executed anyone for religious crimes since the 
Taliban's fall, though at least one person has been sentenced to death: Parvez 
Kambakhsh, a journalism student, who in 2008 was condemned for blasphemy for 
distributing material found on the Internet questioning women's rights under 
Islam. A court later commuted the sentence to 20 years before President Hamid 
Karzai pardoned him.

Another man, Shoaib Assadullah Musawi, has been jailed in the northern city of 
Mazar-i-Sharif since November after being accused of giving the New Testament 
to a friend, who then turned him in.

Afghan and American legal experts say such cases 

Bls: [proletar] Re: cangkok pete fiq, bangun! (Dipo yang gila tidak bisa membedakan antara

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik PAREWA
maklum dia ngga pernah belanja disana...

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elu yg jelas2 ngibul.

gua beli kaos non branded di duty free schiphol aja udah diatas 10 euro.

kalo yg branded kayak kaos hard rock cafe itu bisa 30an euro.



2 euro itu cuman 24 rebu perak.

elu punya duit segitu di indonesia cuman dapet kaos kaki.

kayaknya elu sering beli kaos di toko loak di leiden sono ya.

makanya kalo hidup melarat jangan sok makmur.



kalo coklat 5 euro sekotak emang bener, tapi kotak korek api.



dasar pembohong kelas ketombe lu.



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 Ngibul..

 

 Kaos di negeri Belanda cuma sekitar 2 atau 3 euro, gantungan konci 
 paling-paling satu setengah euro dan coklat juga paling-paling lima euro 
 sekotak..

 

 Dan tiap orang Belanda disamping gaji atau pensiun atau tunjangan, termasuk 
 gelandangan, juga dapat uang untuk pergi pakansi tiap tahun.

 






 





 



  







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Bls: [proletar] Re: Dipo, ayuh ikuti contoh Wawan...

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik PAREWA
sayangnya ibu anda, tak seperti ibunya wawan, tak pernah membawa anda ke 
psikiater. Begini akibatnya, makin tua makin gila 

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  Kasihan saya melihat rezamautia yang nggak sembuh-sembuh walaupun sudah 
begitu lama menjalani terapi.



Masih saja dia bisanya mikir pake kontol.



Pertama: Wawan tidak pergi sendiri ke psikiater, tapi dibawa ibunya yang salah 
paham tentng keadaan anaknya..



Kedua: contoh Wawan yang kudu diturutkan oleh orang Islam yang dungu-dungu 
kayak anjing itu adalah berfikir secara rasional, cara berfikir yang dari kecil 
telah diajarkan oleh orang tua kami danmemang kami pakai.



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  Dipo, ayuh ikuti contoh Wawan...

 

 

 Jusfiq, ayuh ikuti contoh Wawan...

 

 Segeralah menemui psikiater.  

 Anda sudah parah mengalami nervous breakdown.  Warga kampung disini sudah 
 mengatakan anda 'totally insane'.

 

 

 

 

  

  Ambil tu buku taik anjing al-Mushaf susunan orang Arab primitif yang anda

  jadikan kitab suci, lalu injak-injak didepan keluarga anda.

  

  Selanjutnya biasakan berfikir secara rasional dengan berpedoman pada

  materialislem, dialektika dan logika seperti yang dijelaskan oleh Wawan.

 








 





 



  







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Bls: [proletar] Pada melongo kayak babi..

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik PAREWA
ni babinya lagi cuap2 

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Angin perubahan melanda Timur Tengah



Tapi hingga siang ini masih nggak banyak tuh orang Islam yang pada

dungu-dungu kayak anjing

seperti Dipo,

johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus,

Tawang dll. yang buka bacot tentang kejadian di Timur Tengah itu.



Nggak heran...



Pertama, karena dengan otak mereka yang sudah pada rusak berat, jelas

mereka

tidak tahu betapa pentingnya apa yang terjadi di Timur Tengah untuk dunia,

artinya juga

untuk Indonesia.



Kedua, dengan otak mereka yang sudah pada rusak berat pengetahuan

dasar tentang

Timur Tengah juga nyaris nihil.



Jadi ya pada melongo kayak babi.






 





 



  







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Bls: [proletar] Asyik nggak ujan, ngak ada salju, angin juga nggak kencang

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik PAREWA
manusia sia-sia.

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Asyik nggak ujan, ngak ada salju, angin juga nggak kencang dan temperatur juga 
nggak dingin betul, cuman 9 derajad celcius..



Saya mulai jogging sekitar jam 9 pagi.



Jalanan udah rame, tapi seperti kemarin, kebanyakan jalan yang saya lalui 
adalah jaln-jalan kecil yang tidak banyak dilalui kendaraan bermotor..



Dan nggak banyak yang istimewa. 



Di simpang Wittesingel dan Nordeinde saya lihat ada turis dari Asia Timur yang 
mengambil foto patung Rembrand..



Di Gerrit Dousstraat saya berpapasan dengan perempuan muda yang pakae jaket 
merah cerah..



Dan di ujung Schelpenkade saya berpapasan lagi dengan laki-laki setengah baya 
berpakaian lengkap dengan dasi dan berpici cowboy yang membawa anjingnya 
berjalan pagi..



Dengan takzimnya dia mengucapkan Goede morgen yang saya sambut dengan Goede 
morgen juga.

 

Walaupun jarak yang saya tempuh sama dengan yang kemarin, tapi hari ini saya 
sudah balik dirumah setelah 92 menit 57 detik.






 





 



  







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[proletar] milis ini paling lucuuu.....

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik wawan

saya tertawa terpingkal-pingkal baca posting2 di milis ini...

lucu tenan...

benernya disini banyak yg kreatip...

banyak orang aneh bakalan dilahirkan dari milis ini :))





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[proletar] Aljazeera: Suicide blast targets Afghan police

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik utusan.allah
Pengikut agama anjing Islam itu rajin betul saling berbunuhan...

Saya bilang dan saya ulang: agama Islam itu adalah laknat buat ummat manusia, 
jadi juga buat orangIslam sendiri.


Central  South Asia
Suicide blast targets Afghan police
At least nine killed in attack on checkpoint on road connecting Khost and 
Paktia provinces, according to police.
Last Modified: 18 Feb 2011 08:24 GMT

On February 14, a suicide attacker targeted a popular Kabul shopping mall, 
killing at least two people [AFP]

A suicide car bomber in eastern Afghanistan has killed at least nine people, 
including two police officers, according to the Afghan police.

Abdul-Hakim Isaqzai, the police chief in Khost, said the powerful explosion 
occurred on Friday morning at a checkpoint inside the province's main city, 
also named Khost. The checkpoint was located on a road to neighbouring Paktia 
province.

Amir Pacha, the director of hospitals in Khost, told the Associated Press news 
agency that 30 other people, mostly civilians, were wounded in the blast. 

Isaqzai said that local hospitals were in danger of being overwhelmed by the 
casualities.

The police chief said that officers were suspicious of the bomber. He responded 
to their suspicions by detonating the explosives that were packed into his car.

Houses and shops in the area were damaged in the explosion, and the road was 
covered with blood and body parts.

This is an act of terror and is done by the enemies of the people and 
government of Afghanistan, Isaqzai said.

This phrase is often used by Afghan officials to refer to the Taliban, who have 
been battling international forces in Afghanistan since 2001.

The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack, according to an AP report.

Earlier this week, 19 people including 15 police and an intelligence agent died 
in a string of attacks centred on police headquarters in Afghanistan's de facto 
southern capital, Kandahar





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[proletar] Penyelesaian Ahmadiah Masalah Hukum Bukan Syariah Islam !!!

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik muskitawati
Penyelesaian Ahmadiah Masalah Hukum Bukan Syariah Islam !!!
   
Masih banyak pembaca dan masyarakat di Indonesia buta hukum yang berlaku, 
mereka selalu merujuk kepada Syariah Islam dalam menyalahkan Islam Ahmadiah.

Kelompok masyarakat yang masing menganggap bahwa dalam penyelesaian kasus 
Ahmadiah harus lebih dulu memahami dan mengerti Islam.

Itu tidak benar, kasus Ahmadiah adalah kasus pelanggaran hukum oleh mereka yang 
anti-Ahmadiah--dengan melakukan kekerasan, pembunuhan, dan perusakan property.

Apa perbedaan isi akidah Ahmadiah dan Islam mainstream bukan masalah hukum, dan 
hukum negara tidak berpihak kepada akidah Islam manapun juga, jadi tidak perlu 
memahami atau mengerti akidah Islam manapun juga selain betul2 memahami hukum 
negara yang berlaku.

Kalo ada perbedaan akidah itu biasa, semua aliran agama lain pun beda2 
akidahnya, kalo harus disamakan mana bisa ada aliran2 lain???

Demikianlah, artinya kalo ada perbedaan akidah dimana masing2 yakin kebenaran 
pihaknya... silahkan ambil jalan masing2 yang tidak melanggar hukum, 
berdakwahlah se-baik2nya, bersaing melalui dakwah, biarkan masyarakat yang 
memilih mana yang terbaik untuk diri mereka...

Jadi dalam bersaing antara agama dan aliran2nya, janganlah sekali2 menggunakan 
kekerasan yang melanggar hukum yang berlaku, bersainglah merebut pendapat dari 
masyarakat secara kompetisi yang fair bukan dengan teror2.  Silahkan 
mengeluarkan fatwa2, dan tidak salah kalo Islam Ahmadiah nantinya membentuk MUI 
tandingan yang juga mengeluarkan fatwa2, dan bersainglah melalui fatwa bukan 
melalui teror berdarah.

Demikianlah, pemerintah sudah menyalahi konstitusi yang berlaku dengan 
melindungi FPI pelaku kekerasan ini.  Oleh karena itu, SBY seharusnya 
meletakkan jabatannya untuk pelanggaran konstitusi yang seharusnya dijunjung 
tinggi olehnya.

Ny. Muslim binti Muskitawati.








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[proletar] Re: milis ini paling lucuuu.....

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik blubps
posting iseng ini.
kayaks laki gak punya bini.
jomblo mlongo.

napa gak tereak2 kayaks kernet aja, sih?
kayaks gini niii

mubarak!
munarmaaannn!

(sapa tau dapet award sebage kernet teladan)


blub! 


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 saya tertawa terpingkal-pingkal baca posting2 di milis ini...
 
 lucu tenan...
 
 benernya disini banyak yg kreatip...
 
 banyak orang aneh bakalan dilahirkan dari milis ini :))







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[proletar] Re: Ingkar Janji Bakrie Life, Nasabah Gigit Jari

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik wawan

nah, yg menarik di Russia adalah, jaminan kesehatan merupakan hak setiap warga 
negara dan itu tercantum dalam konstitusi

artinya warga negara russia tidak dipotong apapun sbg insurance kesehatan, ini 
bisa dimaklumi karena BUMN Russia macam Gazprom, Sibneft dan Sberbank, mencetak 
laba besar sehingga keuntungannya bisa digunakan untuk subsidi kesehatan rakyat

apakah di negeri eropa barat,insurance kesehatan warganegara itu diambilkan 
dari potongan gaji misalnya?  atau memang dicover penuh oleh negara tanpa 
potongan pajak/potongan pendapatan warganegara?


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 Jadi, kalau saya tidak salah tangkap, di Rusia ada dua tingkat asuransi: 
 pertama yang dikelola negara, artinya basic dan yang level tinggi 
 dikelola oleh perusahaan asuransi.
 
 Tidak  mesti jelek sistem ini, tergantung apakah Parlemen dan civil society 
 bisa ikut mengotrol perusahaan asuransi. Tapi mungkin lebih boros dari sistem 
 Belanda yang sebahagian besar dari jaminan kesehatan diurus oleh perusahaan 
 asuransi yang dengan jeli mengawasi kemungkinan pemborosan oleh rumah sakit 
 dan dokter (yang selalu dirayu oleh perusahaan farmasi untuk ngasih obat yang 
 nggak begitu perlu kepada pasiennnya..).
 
 





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[proletar] Re: Beras Vs Gandum/Terigu

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik blubps


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 Beras organik itu bukanlah milik petani, karena petani tidak mampu menanam 
 yang organik, semua yang namanya organik itu betul2 alamiah enggak ada 
 pestisidanya karena ditanam dalam ruang kaca.  Mana ada petani punya ruang 
 kaca???
 


emang cuma taneman yang berkaca2 doang yang bole disebut organik?

padi lokal dari bibit ngorganik yang oleh petani organik dipupuk pake kompos or 
pupuk kandang, trus hamanya disemprot pake aer tembako, misale, ga bole disebut 
organik, napa?


 Tapi kalopun memang dari petani, hanya bisa di eksport kalo ada kerja sama 
 antara si petani dan tengkulaknya.  Tentu tengkulak selalu untung, sedangkan 
 si petani selalu buntung.
 


saya pernah denger ada orang/lembaga yang bekerja bersama para petani, termasuk 
untuk urusan pasar-nya (jadi petani gak ada ketergantungan ma tengkulak).  
bisnis kayaks ginian, konon, bole disebut sebagai social business. soale 
profit, tapi juga punya visi pemberdayaan. 


 Ny. Muslim binti Muskitawati



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Re: [proletar] milis ini paling lucuuu.....

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik ayub yahya
lucu dan menyedihkan.. 

ada aki-aki yg mustinya di denger pengalaman hidupnya,
saat dia ngadepin pimpinan otoriter.. yg nyaksiin sendiri
pembantaian PKI...

boro boro di dengerin.. malah di pakai jithak2-an

menyedihkan tenan...

celakanya !!.. dia menikmati palanya buat jithak2-an




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saya tertawa terpingkal-pingkal baca posting2 di milis ini...



lucu tenan...



benernya disini banyak yg kreatip...



banyak orang aneh bakalan dilahirkan dari milis ini :))






 





 



  






  

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Re: [proletar] Hidayatullah: Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik ayub yahya
ini pernyataan terselubung dari Hidayatullah kalo sebenarnya 
Nabi Muhammad SAW adalah Allah swt.

perhatikan kalimat dibawah pada bagian :
 Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an.

katanya Al-Quran tuh turun dari langit melalui jibril di forward ke
Nabi Muhammad SAW 
skarang Hidayatulah bilangnya akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an

itu jelas niru orang keresten yang memang yesus di tuhan-kan,
karena orang2 keresten menganggap 'yesus adalah firman yg hidup'

oleh Hidayatulah sedikit dipelesetkan jadi: akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an
dengan kata lain al-Quran tuh sebatas rasulullah itu sendiri...

gitu kan yg dimaksud Hidayatulah ?





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Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad

 



Senin, 14 Februari 2011



Hidayatullah.com--Nabi Muhammad SAW memiliki akhlak yang mulia (Khuluqun 
`azim). Tak ada cela sedikitpun. Dan, tak ada orang yang mampu menandingi 
akhlaknya. Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an.


 







 





 



  






  

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[proletar] Re: Membosankan

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik blubps


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Mira Wijaya Kusuma la_luta@... wrote:

 Membosankan
 
 
 Hidup ini begitu membosankan
 pertama pergi tidur dan mendengkur
 


ya, jangan mendengkur, Mbak


 Bangun, mandi, berpakaian dan berdandan
 berangkat kerja, hanya untuk menyambung hidup
 


mungkin, ga usah bangun sekali2, Mbak


 Waktu setengah jam untuk makan siang
 Tak ada waktu buat mengunyah tenang
 


sekali2 makannya diganti minum doang, kali, Mbak


 Kembali ke pekerjaan rutin
 Menghadapi bos yang brengsek
 


mungkin, sekali2 bosnya jangan diadepin, Mbak. jadi pas ketemu bos, Mbak 
melengos aja


 Ketika waktu kerja hampir selesai
 perjalanan pulang tak bisa cepat sampai
 


kerjaan dikelarin dulu kali, Mbak, baru cabut pulang. biar kesannya ga mbolosan 
gitu lhoh


 Agh menuju  ke rumah tua, kumuh dan reot
 di rumah, mempersiapkan makan malam
 


emang di blanda ada rumah tua-kumuh-reot, Mbak?


 Setelah itu, duduk nonton TV idiot
 menatap kotak layar tak ada yang dilihat
 

ya dah, Mbak, mending ga punya tipi kayaks saya


 Lalu apa? terasa capek dan ngantuk terus pergi tidur
 hidup bagaikan tombol tekan personal komputer
 

lhah, daripada kayaks robot, Mbak, malah ndak isa ngantuks dan ndak isa 
bubuks

 
 Putaran roda berotasi di pijakan setempat
 Bangun dan tidur tak ada yang  melihat
  


emangnya pengen diliatin sapa, sih, Mbak?

(met wiken, yah, Mbak ... semoga segar-bugar dan gembira)


 MiRa - Amsterdam, 17 Februari 2011 
 


blubps - indonesia - 18 februari 2011





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[proletar] Re: milis ini paling lucuuu.....(dan ayub yahya yang berotak anjing ikut

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

dan ayub yahya yang sedeng dan berotak anjing ikut geromblon orang Islam buat 
menyebar dusta dan fintah...

Bagusnya orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka ngerja'in atau 
berolok-olok yang adalah pengakuan bahwa mereka itu bangsat yang sudah 
kehabisan argumen daan atidak bisa membantah apa yagn saya katakan..

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@... wrote:

 lucu dan menyedihkan.. 
 
 ada aki-aki yg mustinya di denger pengalaman hidupnya,
 saat dia ngadepin pimpinan otoriter.. yg nyaksiin sendiri
 pembantaian PKI...
 
 boro boro di dengerin.. malah di pakai jithak2-an
 
 menyedihkan tenan...
 
 celakanya !!.. dia menikmati palanya buat jithak2-an
 
 
 
 
 --- On Fri, 2/18/11, wawan selarasmilis@... wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Â 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
 
 saya tertawa terpingkal-pingkal baca posting2 di milis ini...
 
 
 
 lucu tenan...
 
 
 
 benernya disini banyak yg kreatip...
 
 
 
 banyak orang aneh bakalan dilahirkan dari milis ini :))
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
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[proletar] ayub yahya ikut gerombolan orang Islam penyebar dusta dan fitnah..

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik utusan.allah

ayub yahya yang katanya abangan ikut gerombolan orang Islam penyebar dusta dan 
fitnah.. 

Dan beda kapasitas otak ayub yahya itu memang nggak banyak beda kok dengan 
kapasita otak Tawang atau ndeboost..

 





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[proletar] BBC: Bahrain troops 'fire on crowds'

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik utusan.allah

BBC News Middle East

18 February 2011 Last updated at 16:59 GMT

Bahrain troops 'fire on crowds'


Fleeing protesters near Pearl Square, 18/02 Protesters fled as soldiers fired 
tear gas near Pearl Square

Bahraini security forces have opened fire on anti-government protesters, 
witnesses and opposition activists say.

The protesters were fired on after they had streamed into the centre of the 
capital Manama from the funerals of protesters killed in a security crackdown 
earlier this week.

Witnesses said the army fired live rounds and tear gas, and officials said at 
least 25 people had been hurt.

Many of the protesters are calling for the overthrow of the royal family.

Crown Prince Sheikh Salman bin Hamad Al Khalifa appeared on state TV on Friday 
to promise a national dialogue once calm has returned.

The prince, who is also deputy supreme commander of the army, called for 
everyone to withdraw from the streets.
Sectarian divide

The BBC's Caroline Hawley, in Manama, says the funeral procession of one of the 
dead protesters turned into another anti-government demonstration.

The mourners were trying to make their way to the Salmaniya Hospital, where 
their injured colleagues are being treated.

Bahrain protesters: We shall never accept humiliation

But they came under fire as they passed close to Pearl Square, which has been 
sealed off by the army for the past day to prevent further large-scale 
demonstrations.

An eyewitness told al-Jazeera TV that the authorities gave no warning.

They just started shooting us. Now there is more than 20 injured in the 
hospital. One guy has already passed away because he got shot in his head, 
said the witness.

One protester, 27-year-old bank clerk Ali al-Haji, told AP news agency that 
live ammunition was used.

People started running in all directions and bullets were flying, I saw people 
getting shot in the legs, chest and one man was bleeding from his head, he 
said.

AP earlier reported that soldiers had fired anti-aircraft guns over the heads 
of the protesters.

Medical officials say 25 people were wounded, but other reports from witnesses 
said many more had been hurt.

Bahrain is ruled by a royal family and a Sunni Muslim elite, but has a Shia 
majority who make up the bulk of the protesters.
International concern

Earlier, the country's most senior Shia cleric Sheikh Issa Qassem described 
attacks on protesters as a massacre and said the government had shut the door 
to dialogue.

As he spoke at emotionally charged Friday prayers in the Duraz neighbourhood, 
supporters shouted victory for Islam, death for Al Khalifa [the ruling 
family] and we are your soldiers.

Western countries have urged Bahrain to show restraint in dealing with 
protesters and called for meaningful reform in the small Gulf state kingdom.

The UN's rights chief Navi Pillay condemned the use of force by governments 
across the region, and singled out the Bahraini authorities for targeting 
medical workers while they were treating protesters.

The nature and scope of the human rights violations taking place in several 
countries in the region in response to those who are largely demonstrating 
peacefully for their fundamental human rights and freedoms is alarming, she 
said.

Since independence from the UK in 1971, tensions between the Sunni elite and 
the less affluent Shia have frequently caused civil unrest. Shia groups say 
they are marginalised, subject to unfair laws and repressed.

Washington is watching with growing concern as unrest and violence spread 
across the Middle East, threatening its regional interests, correspondents say.

While Bahrain is tiny, with a population of less than one million, it is home 
to the US Navy's Fifth Fleet and is near another key US ally in the region, 
Saudi Arabia.






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[proletar] Re: Ingkar Janji Bakrie Life, Nasabah Gigit Jari

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
Di Perancis dipotong dari penghasilan (gaji, pensiun, penghasilan pedagang, 
dokter, notaris dll.). 

Dan karena dari sumber itu nggak cukup untuk membiayai pengeluaran untuk 
kesehatan, maka ditombok dengan uang pajak.

Sistem ini berresiko boros, dan memang itulah yang terjadi, karena lembaga 
negara tidak bisa mengawasi dengan ketat pengluaran rumah sakit dan biaya obat 
yang didorong boros oleh perusahan farmasi.   

Di negeri Belanda hybrid: tiap orang kudu punya asuransi dari perusahaan 
asuransi yang bersaing dan sebagian kecil dipotong dari penghasilan. 

Sistem ini bisa mengurangi pemborosan karena perusahaan asuransi yang nyari 
untung mengawasi pengluaran rumah sakit dan pengeluaran untuk obat.   

Tapi kawalitas rawatan dikedua negeri itu tetap bagus sekali.


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, wawan selarasmilis@... wrote:

 
 nah, yg menarik di Russia adalah, jaminan kesehatan merupakan hak setiap 
 warga negara dan itu tercantum dalam konstitusi
 
 artinya warga negara russia tidak dipotong apapun sbg insurance kesehatan, 
 ini bisa dimaklumi karena BUMN Russia macam Gazprom, Sibneft dan Sberbank, 
 mencetak laba besar sehingga keuntungannya bisa digunakan untuk subsidi 
 kesehatan rakyat
 
 apakah di negeri eropa barat,insurance kesehatan warganegara itu diambilkan 
 dari potongan gaji misalnya?  atau memang dicover penuh oleh negara tanpa 
 potongan pajak/potongan pendapatan warganegara?
 
 
 --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote:
 
  
  Jadi, kalau saya tidak salah tangkap, di Rusia ada dua tingkat asuransi: 
  pertama yang dikelola negara, artinya basic dan yang level tinggi 
  dikelola oleh perusahaan asuransi.
  
  Tidak  mesti jelek sistem ini, tergantung apakah Parlemen dan civil society 
  bisa ikut mengotrol perusahaan asuransi. Tapi mungkin lebih boros dari 
  sistem Belanda yang sebahagian besar dari jaminan kesehatan diurus oleh 
  perusahaan asuransi yang dengan jeli mengawasi kemungkinan pemborosan oleh 
  rumah sakit dan dokter (yang selalu dirayu oleh perusahaan farmasi untuk 
  ngasih obat yang nggak begitu perlu kepada pasiennnya..).
  
 







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[proletar] Re: Hidayatullah: Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik sikebenaran

Betul betul betul kata Upin Upin :)


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@... wrote:

 ini pernyataan terselubung dari Hidayatullah kalo sebenarnya 
 Nabi Muhammad SAW adalah Allah swt.
 
 perhatikan kalimat dibawah pada bagian :
  Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an.
 
 katanya Al-Quran tuh turun dari langit melalui jibril di forward ke
 Nabi Muhammad SAW 
 skarang Hidayatulah bilangnya akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an
 
 itu jelas niru orang keresten yang memang yesus di tuhan-kan,
 karena orang2 keresten menganggap 'yesus adalah firman yg hidup'
 
 oleh Hidayatulah sedikit dipelesetkan jadi: akhlak rasulullah ibarat 
 al-Qur'an
 dengan kata lain al-Quran tuh sebatas rasulullah itu sendiri...
 
 gitu kan yg dimaksud Hidayatulah ?
 
 
 
 
 
 --- On Fri, 2/18/11, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote:
  
 
 Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad
 
  
 
 
 
 Senin, 14 Februari 2011
 
 
 
 Hidayatullah.com--Nabi Muhammad SAW memiliki akhlak yang mulia (Khuluqun 
 `azim). Tak ada cela sedikitpun. Dan, tak ada orang yang mampu menandingi 
 akhlaknya. Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an.
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
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[proletar] BBC: Libya protests: 'Mass gathering' in Benghazi

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq


British Broadcasting CorporationBBCHome

BBC News Africa

18 February 2011 Last updated at 15:41 GMT

Libya protests: 'Mass gathering' in Benghazi


Amateur video posted online purportedly shows unrest in Libya

Witnesses in the Libyan city of Benghazi say thousands of people have gathered 
for an anti-government protest outside the city's courthouse.

There are also reports that some prisoners escaped from a city jail but that 
100 were later arrested.

Benghazi has been the scene of protests in recent days, with reports that at 
least 15 people were killed in clashes with security forces on Thursday.

Large protests are rare in Libya, where dissent is seldom allowed.

A leading pro-government newspaper, Al-Zahf Al-Akhdar, called for tough action 
against the protesters.

Any risk from these miniscule groups [protesters] - this people and the noble 
revolutionary power will violently and thunderously respond, the paper said.

The people's power, the Jamahiriya [system of rule], the revolution, and 
Colonel Gaddafi are all red lines and those who try to cross or come near these 
lines are suicidal and playing with fire.

Pro-democracy protests have recently swept through several Arab nations, with 
the presidents of Tunisia and Egypt forced from power amid growing unrest.

The US-based Human Rights Watch said at least 24 people had been killed across 
Libya in unrest on Wednesday and Thursday.

Many others were wounded in the clashes between security forces and protesters, 
the campaign group said.
'Buildings on fire'

Witnesses told the BBC there were no police at the protest at the courthouse, 
though security forces have been widely deployed around the city.

The protesters said they planned to march to the hospital later to take 23 
bodies to the cemetery.

Other witness reports spoke of three deaths in clashes in another part of the 
city, and of more people killed elsewhere in Benghazi and al-Bayda.

Two exile groups told Reuters news agency that al-Bayda was now out of the 
control of the Gaddafi regime. The reports cannot be independently verified.

Meanwhile the chief editor of the Quryna newspaper, Ramadan Briki, told the BBC 
that some prisoners had escaped from Benghazi's al-Kuifya prison and set fire 
to the local prosecutor's office, a bank and a police station.

Police later arrested 100. It was not clear if any prisoners remained at large, 
Mr Briki said.

A doctor at Benghazi's Jalla hospital told the BBC that he had seen 15 bodies - 
all dead from gunshot wounds - by the time he left the hospital in the early 
hours of Friday.

He said one of them was a 13-year-old boy.

Other witnesses said six police cars in front of the hospital had been set on 
fire by relatives of the victims.

It has been impossible for the BBC to verify witness reports on the ground.

However, our correspondent Jon Leyne in Cairo says violent confrontations are 
reported to have spread to five Libyan cities in demonstrations so far, but not 
yet to Tripoli, the capital, in any large numbers.

Funerals of some of those killed are expected to be held on Friday in Benghazi 
and al-Bayda, which correspondents say could spur more protests.

Activists supporting Libya's leader, Muammar Gaddafi, have also been out on the 
streets in Tripoli, chanting pro-government slogans in Green Square.

Col Gaddafi briefly visited the square in the early hours of Friday, according 
to images aired by state TV.

He is the Arab world's longest-serving leader, having ruled oil-rich Libya 
since a coup in 1969.






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salju sperma [proletar] Re: milis ini paling lucuuu.....

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik ayub yahya

cieelaahh..!! .. lagi blajar jilat pantat orang2 islam yg di maki2 nih???

btw, dimilis ini pernah ada yg nanyain elu pig,
fiq, tau bedanya salju dan sperma ?

sumpah !!.. gw gak tau maksudnya apa pertanyaan itu
kayaknya anjing aja tau salju ama sperma tuh beda banget.. it's real !!

bisa2 nya lu ditanya pertanyaan kayak gitu..mana nanya nya di milis lagi

segitu parahnya otak lu pig.. 
pinteran anjing dibanding elu..

menyedihkan ... tapi dinikmatin 



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Bagusnya orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka ngerja'in atau 
berolok-olok  



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 lucu dan menyedihkan.. 

 

 ada aki-aki yg mustinya di denger pengalaman hidupnya,

 saat dia ngadepin pimpinan otoriter.. yg nyaksiin sendiri

 pembantaian PKI...

 

 boro boro di dengerin.. malah di pakai jithak2-an

 

 menyedihkan tenan...

 

 celakanya !!.. dia menikmati palanya buat jithak2-an

 

 

 

 

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 saya tertawa terpingkal-pingkal baca posting2 di milis ini...

 

 

 

 lucu tenan...

 

 

 

 benernya disini banyak yg kreatip...

 

 

 

 banyak orang aneh bakalan dilahirkan dari milis ini :))

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

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[proletar] Re: YAPI Dinilai Sering Mendakwahkan Syi'ah di Masyarakat

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik sikebenaran

Menurut Syi'ah, Sunni adalah pembunuh nabi.

Teks Syi'ah menganjurkan u/ membunuhi Sunni  Sunni lebih buruk dr Yahudi - 
Kristen.


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 Gereja orang Nasrani dibakarin dan orang Nasrani dibunuhin. 
 
 Ahmadiyah dibunuhin..
 
 Sekarang syiah mulai digerecokin.. 
 
 Islam itu, saya bilang dan saya ulang adalah laknat buat umma manusia, 
 artinya juga buat orang Islam sendiri.
 
 Kamis, 17 Februari 2011
 
 Hidayatulalah.com--Majelis Ulama Indonesia (MUI) memberi bocoran dari hasil 
 investigasi yang dilakukan atas kasus kekerasan di Al-Ma'Hadul Islami (YAPI), 
 Pasuruan. Menurut  Ketua MUI Jawa Timur, KH. Abdussomad Bukhori,  konflik 
 seperti itu memang telah terjadi sejak lama.
 
 Sejak YAPI baru berdiri dan masih kecil, sebenarnya konflik telah terjadi, 
 meski masih tahap kecil, ujarnya kepada hidayatullah.com Kamis, (17/2).
 
 Menurut Abdussomad, lambat laun, masalah itu semakin besar, dan terjadi 
 seperti kasus kemarin. 
 
 Konflik itu, kata Abdussomad, disebabkan karena YAPI kerap menyebarkan paham 
 syi'ah kepada masyarakat.
 
 Mereka (YAPI) sering berdakwah paham Syi'ah kepada masyarakat. Dalam 
 dakwahnya, mereka tidak mengakui keberadaan para sahabat Nabi, seperti Abu 
 Bakar, Umar, Ustman, paparnya.
 
 Tidak hanya itu, jelas Abdussomad, mereka juga kerap meyebarkan brosur  
 tentang Syi'ah.
 
 Mungkin itu yang menyebabkan umat Islam di sana marah, apalagi di sana 
 mayoritas sunni, ujarnya. Sekarang saja, di Pasuruan, tambahnya, praktik 
 nikah mut'ah mulai marak terjadi.
 
 Abdussomad tidak sedang mengarang cerita. Informasi penting itu ia dapatkan 
 dari salah satu Ketua Kelompok Ahlussunah wal Jama'ah (Aswaja). Kendati 
 demikian, dalam kejadian kemarin, kata Abdussomad, bukan atas instruksi 
 Aswaja, melainkan aksi spontanitas massa biasa. 
 
 Itu bermula karena saling ejek, kemudian berbuntut hingga aksi pelemparan, 
 paparnya.
 
 Agar kejadian serupa tidak terjadi, Abdussomad meminta pihak YAPI 
 menghentikan dakwah Syi'ahnya.
 
 Mestinya dilarang. Tidak boleh menyebarkan ajaran seperti itu, jelasnya.
 
 Apalagi, tambahnya, Pasuruan dan Bangil basis Sunni.
 
 Di sana mayoritas sunni. Kalau ada ajaran Syi'ah disebarkan, otomatis akan 
 ditolak, ungkapnya. *







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Re: [proletar] Re: met weekend..

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik ayub yahya
kalo gak liat bajunya.. kagak nyangka ntu artisnya cewe
di akhir video.. gokil banget tuh main pianonya...
bener2 mantab !!

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  lagunya mantap.

artisnya mantap.

penontonnya fuck up..



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 Mantab bro..!! .. it's nice song

 

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salju sperma [proletar] Re: milis ini paling lucuuu.....

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
Inilah yang saya tulis:

dan ayub yahya yang sedeng dan berotak anjing ikut gerombolon orang Islam buat 
menyebar dusta dan fintah...

Bagusnya orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka ngerja'in atau
berolok-olok yang adalah pengakuan bahwa mereka itu bangsat yang sudah 
kehabisan argumen dan tidak bisa membantah apa yagn saya katakan.

Lantas ayub yahya yang memang sedeng dan telah bergabung dengan gerombolan 
orang Islam yang otaknya sudah pada rusak hingga tu otak jadi busuk, nista lagi 
menjijikkan itu unjuk isi otaknya yang juga busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan 
seperti dibawahini.

Kasihan saya melihat orang abangan yagn satu ini.

Otaknya betul-betul sudah rusak dan jadi busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan.


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@... wrote:

 
 cieelaahh..!! .. lagi blajar jilat pantat orang2 islam yg di maki2 nih???
 
 btw, dimilis ini pernah ada yg nanyain elu pig,
 fiq, tau bedanya salju dan sperma ?
 
 sumpah !!.. gw gak tau maksudnya apa pertanyaan itu
 kayaknya anjing aja tau salju ama sperma tuh beda banget.. it's real !!
 
 bisa2 nya lu ditanya pertanyaan kayak gitu..mana nanya nya di milis lagi
 
 segitu parahnya otak lu pig.. 
 pinteran anjing dibanding elu..
 
 menyedihkan ... tapi dinikmatin 
 
 
 
 ---On Fri, 2/18/11, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote:
 Â 
 
 
 
 Bagusnya orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka ngerja'in atau 
 berolok-olok  
 
 
 
 --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@ wrote:
 
 
 
  lucu dan menyedihkan.. 
 
  
 
  ada aki-aki yg mustinya di denger pengalaman hidupnya,
 
  saat dia ngadepin pimpinan otoriter.. yg nyaksiin sendiri
 
  pembantaian PKI...
 
  
 
  boro boro di dengerin.. malah di pakai jithak2-an
 
  
 
  menyedihkan tenan...
 
  
 
  celakanya !!.. dia menikmati palanya buat jithak2-an
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  --- On Fri, 2/18/11, wawan selarasmilis@ wrote:
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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  saya tertawa terpingkal-pingkal baca posting2 di milis ini...
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  lucu tenan...
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  benernya disini banyak yg kreatip...
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  banyak orang aneh bakalan dilahirkan dari milis ini :))
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
  
 
  
 

 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 

 
  
 
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[proletar] ayub yahya yang betul-betul dungu kayak kerbau..

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Saya menunjukkan kedunguan dan kebusukan orang Islam yang tidak punya harga 
diri digilangnya saya menjilat pantat orang Islam.

ayub yahya itu betul-betul dungu kayak kerbau..

Betul-betul menyedihkan.
 





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[proletar] kayak ndeboost ayub yahya itu juga suka OOT..

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Perhatikan posting ayub yahya yang otaknya sudah rusak dan jadi bangsat 
pendusta dan pememfitnah yang busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan..

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/302536

Dari topik kelakuan gerombolan orang Islam di mùailing list ini dia OOT 
kepertanyaan sedeng yang diajukan orang disini..

Saya sudah bilang, beda ayub yahya dan ndeboost itu tidak banyak. 







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[proletar] ayub yahya yang betul-betul dungu kayak kerbau..

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Saya menunjukkan kedunguan dan kebusukan orang Islam yang tidak punya harga 
diri dibilangnya saya belajar menjilat pantat orang Islam.

ayub yahya itu betul-betul dungu kayak kerbau..

Betul-betul menyedihkan.
 





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[proletar] Aljazeera: Bahrain forces fire at protesters

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
Lihat videoya:


Middle East
Bahrain forces fire at protesters
Troops open live fire around Pearl roundabout in Manama after nightfall, at 
least 50 wounded.
Last Modified: 18 Feb 2011 18:37 GMT

[WARNING: This video contains images that some viewers may find disturbing]

Shots were fired by soldiers around Pearl roundabout in Manama, the Bahraini 
capital, a day after police forcibly cleared a protest encampment from the 
traffic circle.

The circumstances of the shooting after nightfall on Friday were not clear. 
Officials at the main Salmaniya hospital said at least 50 people were injured, 
some with gunshot wounds.
LIVE BLOG

Some doctors and medics on emergency medical teams were in tears as they tended 
to the wounded. X-rays showed bullets still lodged inside victims.

This is a war, said Dr. Bassem Deif, an orthopedic surgeon examining people 
with bullet-shattered bones.

Protesters described a chaotic scene of tear gas clouds, bullets coming from 
many directions and people slipping in pools of blood as they sought cover.

Bahrain's crown prince, meanwhile, called for calm, saying it was time for 
dialogue, not fighting.

The dialogue is always open and the reforms continue, Crown Prince Sheikh 
Salman bin Hamad al-Khalifa said on Bahrain TV.

 We need to call for self-restraint from all sides, the armed forces, security 
men and citizens, he said. I urge you, there should be calm. Now is time for 
calm.

Jalal Firooz, of the Wefaq bloc that resigned from parliament on Thursday, said 
demonstrators had been elsewhere in the city, marking the death of a protester 
killed earlier this week. The demonstrators then made for the roundabout, where 
army troops are deployed.

A doctor of Salmaniya hospital told Al Jazeera that the hospital is full of 
severely injured people after the latest shootings.

We need help! Our staff is entirely overwhelmed. They are shooting at people's 
heads. Not at the legs. People are having their brains blown out,  a 
distraught Dr Ghassan said, describing the chaos at the hospital as something 
close to a war zone.

Our online producer interviews a protester at a funeral in Sitra

He said the hospital was running short of blood and appealed for help to get 
more supplies. Police had no immediate comment.

An Associated Press cameraman saw army units shooting anti-aircraft weapons, 
fitted on top of armored personnel carriers, above the protesters in apparent 
warning shots and attempts to drive them back from security cordons about 200 
meters from the roundabout.

One marcher claimed live ammunition was used against protesters.

People started running in all directions and bullets were flying, said Ali 
al-Haji, a 27-year-old bank clerk. I saw people getting shot in the legs, 
chest and one man was bleeding from his head.

In the past, security forces had mostly used rubber bullets.

Witnesses said about 20 police cars had driven toward the roundabout after the 
initial shooting.

Earlier, troops backed by tanks had locked down Manama and announced a ban on 
public gatherings. Tanks and armoured personnel carriers were patrolling the 
streets of Manama and checkpoints set up.
Tents at Manama's Pearl Roundabout were cleared of protesters by riot police in 
a raid on Thursday [Reuters]

Riot police using clubs and tear gas broke up a crowd of protesters in the 
city's financial district in a pre-dawn swoop on Thursday, killing at least 
four people and injuring more than 200.

Al Jazeera's correspondent, who cannot be named for security reasons, reported 
from Manama on Friday that thousands of people observed the funerals of those 
killed in the police raid on the protesters' tents in the city's Pearl 
Roundabout area.

Many of those present chanted slogans against Bahrain's ruling Al Khalifa 
family. They said they were both grief-stricken and angry at the 
heavy-handedness of the police, and that they were demanding that the 
international community take notice of what they call the brutality of the 
security forces.

As Friday prayers commenced, Sheikh Issa Qassem, a prominent Bahraini Shia 
Muslim religious leader, delivering his sermon in a northwestern village, 
described Thursday's violence as a massacre.

Our correspondent reported that Qassem said the government was attempting to 
create a sectarian divide between Sunnis and Shias. He advocated peaceful 
protests, saying violence is the way of the government, and that protesters 
should not espouse violent actions.

The crowd at the funerals in Sitra were not as large as those seen during 
previous funerals, our correspondent reported.

He said this was because of a heavy security presence on the streets, with 
police and army closing off roads across the country.

No security forces personnel were reported to be present at Sitra on Friday, 
though a helicopter was seen hovering over the funeral procession.

Many of those who in the past came out [to protests] ... are afraid. They're 
frightened and they don't 

[proletar] Aljazeera ( Opinion): Sandy Tolan: Two-state solution: A postmortem

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
 Opinion
Two-state solution: A postmortem
In the wake of the Palestine Papers and the Egyptian uprising the 'peace 
process' as we know it is dead.

Sandy Tolan Last Modified: 18 Feb 2011 14:10 GMT

The US' tone-deaf approach to Palestinian realities is a key reason for the 
failure of the 'peace process' [GALLO/GETTY]

Among the time-honoured myths in the long tragedy of Israel and Palestine is 
the deal that almost was. The latest entry, what we might call the near deal 
of 2008, comes from Ehud Olmert, the former Israeli prime minister, chronicled 
in excerpts from his forthcoming memoir and feverishly promoted in The New York 
Times as the Israel peace plan that almost was and still could be.
 
Clearly, the dwindling number of promoters of the two-state solution are in a 
post-Cairo, post-Palestine Papers attempt to keep afloat what is, in the end, a 
sinking ship: A bad deal that even the weak Palestinian negotiating team would 
not accept. Israel has an overwhelming interest in going the extra mile, a 
nervous Thomas Friedman wrote as protestors filled Tahrir Square, warning: 
There is a huge storm coming, Israel. Get out of the way. 
 
At the heart of the effort to salvage the busted remnants of Oslo is the near 
deal of 2008.  We were very close, more than ever before, Olmert writes in 
his memoirs. 
 
But as they say in a famous TV ad in the US: Not exactly.

Old myths die hard
 
Like other such fictions - chief among them Israel's generous offer at Camp 
David in 2000 - this one is not entirely without substance. As the Palestine 
Papers show, the two sides did agree on various security arrangements, land 
swaps and some principles of the right of return, much to the alarm of many 
Palestinians. Just as significantly, Palestinian negotiators agreed to allow 
Israel to annex major settlement blocs in East Jerusalem - a fact that, in the 
wake of the document dump, is eroding what is left of Abbas' credibility among 
his own people. (As if to underscore that point, chief negotiator Saeb Erekat 
resigned last week in disgrace, after revelations that the Palestine Papers 
were leaked from his very own office.)
 
Yet despite the 2008 concessions, the documents also show that the negotiations 
did not bring the sides close to a deal. Rather, they revealed red lines that 
signal the end of the peace process as we know it, and - especially after Cairo 
- the death of the two-state solution. Nowhere is this more clear than in the 
discussions over two huge settlement blocs, where Israel, backed by an 
arm-twisting US, undermined its last chance for a two-state deal.
 
In 1993, at the beginning of the Oslo peace process, 109,000 Israeli settlers 
lived on West Bank Palestinian land, not including East Jerusalem. That number 
has now nearly tripled. One of the settlements, Ariel, juts well into the West 
Bank, nearly half the way to Jordan from the Mediterranean coast, and is 
protected by Israel's separation barrier. Ariel, with nearly 20,000 people, 
promotes itself as the aspiring capital of Samaria with its own industrial 
park and even a university.

There is no Israeli leader who will sign an agreement that does not include 
Ariel, Tzipi Livni, Olmert's foreign minister, told Palestinian negotiators in 
April 2008.

 And there is no Palestinian leader who will sign an agreement that includes 
Ariel, negotiator Ahmad Qurei replied. Qurei was not just posturing. Ariel 
bifurcates the Palestinian district of Salfit and helps make a mockery of US 
diplomats' stated goal of a viable and contiguous Palestinian state.

Another red line is Ma'ale Adumim. Despite the significant concessions in East 
Jerusalem - which Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said amounted to the 
biggest Yerushalayim in Jewish history - the Palestinians see Ma'ale Adumim as 
a wedge between East Jerusalem and the West Bank. For them, the settlement is 
another barrier to a contiguous land base on which to build their state. For 
Israelis, Ma'ale Adumim, founded with the support of then defence minister 
Shimon Peres in 1975 and now a city of more than 34,000 settlers, is 
untouchable.
 
In theory, the self-described honest broker, the US, could have tried to 
bridge the differences. But that is not what Condoleezza Rice, the then US 
secretary of state, had in mind when she leaned on the weak Palestinian 
delegation in a July 2008 meeting in Jerusalem:
 
I don't think that any Israeli leader is going to cede Ma'ale Adumim, she 
told Qurei.
 
Or any Palestinian leader, Qurei replied.
 
Then you won't have a state! Rice declared.

On the wrong side of history
 
The US has long been hypersensitive to Israeli domestic political 
considerations while ignoring those of the Palestinians and the broader Arab 
and Muslim worlds. In 2000, Yasser Arafat turned down Israel's generous 
offer, refusing to agree to a sovereign presidential compound in the Old 
City - essentially, a golden cage near the Muslim holy sites. Arafat understood 
that 

[proletar] Muhammedan = Pecandu Porno

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Si Kebenaran




Muhammedan = Pecandu Porno.
Pengakuan para Muhammedan


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kitab kuning yang untuk kepentingan ilmu dan ajaran,  menjelaskan secara
vulgar tentang persusuan, darah haid, nifas, janabah, dan etika berhubungan
seks, apakah ini juga dikategorikan pornografi dan pornoaksi? Beliau termasuk
orang yang menolak RUU APP ini karena ketidakjelasan batasannya dan bisa
berakibat pada pemasungan kreatifitas seni budaya dan kebebasan berpendapat dan
berkespresi.





Jesus, Buddha, Gurus Sikh, Baha’i,  Karl Marx can be compared because of they 
teach love  justice.



It is different wih Muhammad.



I read Koran, Hadith, and Sira and found that Muhammad is a ROBBER, MURDERER, 
TERRORIST, PEDOPHILE, NECROPHILE, CHILD MOLESTER, DAUGHTER-IN-LAW MOLESTER, 
AUNT MOLESTER.



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[proletar] France24: Sarkozy sets sights on role of Islam in secular France

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Sarkozy sets sights on role of Islam in secular France

Following last year's controversial ban on the full Islamic veil in public 
places, French President Nicolas Sarkozy now wants to formalise the 
relationship between Islam and France's fiercely secular state.
By Tony Todd (text)

French President Nicolas Sarkozy has set his sights on the role of Islam in a 
secular France, which looks set to become a major theme ahead of the 2012 
presidential elections.

Sarkozy said Tuesday that he wants to launch a debate in April on the role and 
influence of the country's second-biggest religion.
The call for a discussion on Islam follows comments Sarkozy made last week that 
multiculturalism is not working and is seen as a bid to win back voters from 
the far-right National Front party.
 
There is a growing gulf between the media portrayal of Islam and the 
preoccupations of the French people, Sarkozy told members of his conservative 
Union for a Popular Movement (UMP) party at a dinner he hosted this week.
 
And while it remains unclear whether the president would look to encode the 
debate's findings in a new law, one unnamed UMP lawmaker told right-wing daily 
Le Figaro, The role of Islam in France is going to be a central issue in the 
2012 presidential campaign.
 
`This is a secular country'
 
Sarkozy told his UMP dinner guests that a refusal to address Islam's role would 
lead France down the wrong path. In the 1980s we were careless about 
immigration because it was a taboo subject – and now we are paying the price 
for it, Sarkozy told the party members dining at the Elysée presidential 
palace. The same thing is happening with Islam in France right now.
 
It is out of the question that French society should be influenced by Islam, 
he continued. This is a secular country.
 
Sarkozy went on to set a deadline for a final decision on what role religion 
should play in France: We need to formalise our position on the role of 
religions in France once and for all, and I want this to be achieved in 2011.
 
Religion and the law
 
Secularism in France, a country with Catholic roots but a deep-rooted suspicion 
of religion, has been enforced by law for over a century.
 
The Republic does not officially recognise, pay salaries for, nor subsidise 
any religion, states a December 1905 law on the separation between church and 
state.
 
The law adds: It is henceforth forbidden to erect or display any religious 
signs or emblems publicly, and political meetings may not take place in places 
of worship.
 
Legislation in 2004 reinforced this position, by outlawing the display of 
religious symbols in schools – such as headscarves and crucifixes – as well as 
the ban introduced last autumn on the wearing of the full Islamic veil in 
public places.
 
The law also bans religious processions but does not address prayer meetings in 
the city streets (some mosques in France have overcrowding issues, thus leading 
to an overspill into the streets), which is a particular bugbear of the 
National Front.
 
We need to have a debate on prayer meetings in the streets, Sarkozy told his 
UMP party faithful, echoing the concerns of the far right. In a secular 
country, we cannot tolerate having a public call to prayer.
 
Speaking at a rally in Lyon in December, National Front leader Marine Le Pen 
went even further, comparing prayers in the street to the World War II Nazi 
occupation.
 
There are of course no tanks, there are no soldiers, but it is nevertheless an 
occupation, and it weighs heavily on local residents, she said.  





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[proletar] TKI Overstayers Tak Tahu Cara Mengadu

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik sunny
Refleksi : Pengiriman tenaga kerja ke luarnegeri sudah  kurang lebih 40 tahun, 
Kalau TKI tidak tahu cara mengadu adalah keslahan orgaanisasi buruh karena 
tidak memperhatikan kepentaingan buruh dan begitupun para pengirim dan 
pemerintah. Sepatutnya setiap buruh harus tahu akan haknya, dengan begitu tidak 
jadikan budak oleh pemerintah NKRI  dan pengirim buruh. Buruh harus bisa 
bersatu dalam berorganisasi, jangan percaya bahwa ke tanah suci lalu semua 
beres, disana  pun banyak lintah darat yang bengis. Buruh harus berwawasan luas 
dengan berafiliasi pada gerakan progresif agar tidak mudah ditipu, sekalipun 
rezim berkuasa NKRI menjalankan politik pembodohan masyarakat.

Banyak wanita (TKW) yang kembali dari luarnegeri membawa kecil, kalau 
seandainya anak yang dibawa ialah anak diluar nikah, maka sepatut ibu/anak  
dibayar alimentasioleh sang ayah hingga anak tersebut berumur 18 tahun. Di 
banyak negara sudah ada peraturan ini, jadi sang ayah sulit lari dari kewajiban 
membayar tunjangan tsb. Bila peraturan ini belum ada di NKRI maka harus 
diperjuangkan agar ada dan dipatuhi dalam aplikasinya.

http://news.okezone.com/read/2011/02/18/337/426087/tki-overstayers-tak-tahu-cara-mengadu

Lari dari Majikan
TKI Overstayers Tak Tahu Cara Mengadu
Jum'at, 18 Februari 2011 - 11:18 wib
Hasan Kurniawan - Okezone 
 
TKI (Okezone) 
JAKARTA - Sebanyak 335 Tenaga Kerja Indonesia (TKI) overstayers di Jeddah, Arab 
Saudi, tiba dengan selamat di Bandara Soekarno-Hatta, Tangerang.

Mereka diterbangkan dari Arab Saudi dengan Garuda Airlines GA 981. Kepala Badan 
Nasional Penempatan dan Perlindungan Tenaga Kerja Indonesia (BNP2TKI) Moh 
Jumhur Hidayat turut menyambut kedatangan TKI yang umumnya dikirim secara 
ilegal itu.  

Menurut dia, para TKI ini memang berniat bekerja di Arab, tapi akhirnya lari 
dari majikan karena banyak mendapat perlakukan tidak menyenangkan. Mereka 
dapat kekerasan dari majikan, tidak mendapat gaji sampai pelecehan seks. Mereka 
lari dari majikan dan bergabung dengan temannya, jelas dia di Bandara 
Soekarno-Hatta, Tangerang, Jumat (18/2/2011). 

Tidak mengadukan tindakan majikan itu disayangkan Jumhur. Pasalnya, jika TKI 
ini melapor ke KBRI setempat maka akan difasilitasi untuk menyelesaikan 
masalahnya. Tapi TKI ini tak mengetahui mekanisme untuk menyampaikan keluhan, 
sehingga memilih bergabung dengan lainnya, ungkap dia.

Sementara itu dari pantauan, TKI bermasalah ini mulai meninggalkan ruangan 
pertemuan menuju bus yang akan mengangkutnya. Sebanyak 8 bus khusus TKI 
disiapkan untuk mengantar para TKI ini ke luar bandara menuju daerah asal 
masing-masing.(ram)


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[proletar] Protests spread to Iraqi Kurdistan

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik sunny
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MB19Ak03.html

Feb 19, 2011 

Protests spread to Iraqi Kurdistan 
By Mohammed A Salih 


SULAIMANIYA - At least one person died and dozens were injured on Thursday in 
Iraqi Kurdistan's second largest city as angry protesters attacked the local 
headquarters of one of the two ruling Kurdish parties, while an opposition 
building was set ablaze in the Kurdish capital. 

The violence broke out in Sulaimaniya following a rally organized by a number 
of civil society groups to express solidarity with protesters in Egypt and 
Tunisia and protest the poor state of public services and corruption in the 
autonomous Kurdish region. 

Hours after the attack on the Kurdistan Democratic Party's (KDP) building in 
Sulaimaniya, the local headquarters of the Gorran (Change) opposition movement 
in Irbil was set on fire. 

A Gorran leader told Inter Press Service (IPS) his group held the KDP 
responsible for the attack on its Irbil branch. Security forces in Irbil are 
mostly loyal to the KDP. 

Mohammed Tofiq, Gorran's spokesman, said his party has had nothing to do with 
the protests in Sulaimaniya and the attack on KDP's building. 

We are fundamentally against what happened today. If we wanted to organize 
protests we would have done it publicly, Tofiq said. He criticized the guards 
at the KDP's building for shooting at demonstrators. 

The KDP is led by Massoud Barzani, the president of the Kurdistan region of 
Iraq. KDP's old rival and current ally, the patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), 
is the other major ruling party in the Kurdish government. Jalal Talabani, the 
PUK's head, is president of Iraq. 

Thursday's incidents in northern Iraq broke out amid a wave of mass protests 
that has galvanized several Middle Eastern countries in the recent weeks, 
leading to the collapse of two governments in Egypt and Tunisia. 

Iraqi Kurdistan has witnessed several demonstrations in the past few years 
where people protested corruption and mismanagement. A number of people were 
killed and injured during those protests as well. 

The organizers of the Thursday rally in Sulaimaniya had called on the 
protesters to disperse after a few speeches were read out in line with the 
protest's objectives. But many people continued marching toward nearby Salim 
Street, where a number of high-profile government and party buildings are 
based. 

On arriving at the local headquarters of the KDP, the protesters started 
chanting slogans against Kurdish rulers. Minutes later, they began throwing 
stones at the KDP's building, shattering its windows. 

Eyewitness accounts say panicking guards of the building started opening fire 
on the demonstrators. Sulaimaniya's top health official told the local media 
that one person died and over 50 others were injured as a result of the 
shooting. 

I could hear the sound of bullets whizzing by my head. At that second I 
thought that I was going to die. They were shooting right into the crowd, 
Karzan Kardozi, a blogger who was among the protesting crowd Thursday, told 
IPS. We hid in a parking lot for about three minutes and they were still 
shooting. 

There should be an inquiry, Kardozi said. Those who shot the people should 
be brought to justice or the government will further lose credibility with its 
people. 

There are fears that increasing tensions in Iraqi Kurdistan might lead to 
serious instability, especially in light of regional events and the prospect of 
further protests. 

Many see Thursday's demonstrations as an outburst of pent-up frustrations among 
sections of the Kurdish society toward the failure of Kurdish authorities to 
deliver in key areas such as providing services, combating what is often seen 
as rampant corruption and undertaking serious political reforms. 

The ruling establishment in Kurdistan has failed to carry out serious 
self-criticism, review of its action and take serious measures accordingly to 
address the public grievances, said Rahman Gharib, an activist who was among 
the protesters. 

The fact that there is widespread domestic discontent coupled with the current 
storm of protests in the region must have compelled the Kurdish authorities to 
meet public demands, he said. 

Shortly after the bloody incident in Sulaimaniya, the KDP put out a statement 
saying, The security forces did not play their role adequately, the small 
number of guards protecting the [KDP's] building had to defend themselves. 
Unfortunately, as a result a number of attackers were hit. 

Unlike Irbil, most of the security forces in Sulaimaniya are loyal to the PUK. 

Sulaimaniya, once a stronghold of the PUK, is currently dominated by the Gorran 
opposition movement. Inspired by the popular uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia, 
Gorran issued a statement in late January calling for the dissolution of the 
Kurdish government and parliament. 

That infuriated the governing parties, which accused the opposition group of 
attempting to launch a coup on 

[proletar] Re: Hidayatullah: Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Tawangalun
Al Quran itu isinya ada:
Ar Rahman jadi Rasulpun welas asih.
Al Kudus jadi Rasulpun bersih dari dosa.
Al Ghafar jadi Rasul juga Pemaaf.
Tapi juga Al Jabar jadi Rasul itu gagah juga.

Shalom,
Tawangalun.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, sikebenaran sikebenaran@... wrote:

 
 Betul betul betul kata Upin Upin :)
 
 
 --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@ wrote:
 
  ini pernyataan terselubung dari Hidayatullah kalo sebenarnya 
  Nabi Muhammad SAW adalah Allah swt.
  
  perhatikan kalimat dibawah pada bagian :
   Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an.
  
  katanya Al-Quran tuh turun dari langit melalui jibril di forward ke
  Nabi Muhammad SAW 
  skarang Hidayatulah bilangnya akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an
  
  itu jelas niru orang keresten yang memang yesus di tuhan-kan,
  karena orang2 keresten menganggap 'yesus adalah firman yg hidup'
  
  oleh Hidayatulah sedikit dipelesetkan jadi: akhlak rasulullah ibarat 
  al-Qur'an
  dengan kata lain al-Quran tuh sebatas rasulullah itu sendiri...
  
  gitu kan yg dimaksud Hidayatulah ?
  
  
  
  
  
  --- On Fri, 2/18/11, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote:
   
  
  Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad
  
   
  
  
  
  Senin, 14 Februari 2011
  
  
  
  Hidayatullah.com--Nabi Muhammad SAW memiliki akhlak yang mulia (Khuluqun 
  `azim). Tak ada cela sedikitpun. Dan, tak ada orang yang mampu menandingi 
  akhlaknya. Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an.
  
  
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
  
  
  
  
  
   
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
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[proletar] Kegiatan Ahmadiyah Dilarang di Banten

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik sunny
http://www.suarapembaruan.com/home/kegiatan-ahmadiyah-dilarang-di-banten/3827

Kegiatan Ahmadiyah Dilarang di Banten
Jumat, 18 Februari 2011 | 19:45
 Gubernur Banten Hj Ratu Atut Chosiyah [google] 
















[SERANG] Rapat koordinasi sejumlah lembaga dan instansi di wilayah Provinsi 
Banten yang dilakukan di Pendopo Kantor Gubernur Banten, Jumat sore secara 
bulat menyepakati larangan terhadap aktivitas Jemaah Ahmadiyah di Banten. 
Larangan ini akan dikristalisasikan dan diimplementasikan dalam bentuk payung 
hukum baik itu dalam bentuk peraturan daerah (perda) maupun dalam bentuk Surat 
Keputusan (SK) bupati.   

Rapat koordinasi tersebut dihadiri oleh unsur TNI, Wakapolda Banten Komisaris 
Besar (Kombes) Pol Nandang Jumantara, Ketua Majelis Ulama Indonesia (MUI) 
Banten KH Aminudin Ibrahim, Wakil Ketua DPRD Banten Irfan Maulidi, Wakil 
Gubernur Banten HM Masduki,  

Penjabat Bupati Pandeglang Asmudji HW, Sekda Banten Muhadi dan Asda I Pemprov 
Banten Anwas Mas,ud. Rapat koordinasi tersebut dipimpin langsung oleh Gubernur 
Banten Hj Ratu Atut Chosiyah.   Ketua MUI Banten KH Aminudin Ibrahim 
menjelaskan, rapat koordinasi itu menyepakati beberapa hal yakni larangan 
terhadap Jemaah Ahmadiyah di Banten untuk melakukan aktivitas. Jika Ahmadiyah 
tetap melakukan aktivitas maka pilihan kedua adalah Jemaah Ahmadiyah diminta 
untuk membentuk agama sendiri di luar Islam dan dilarang menggunakan atribut 
Islam.  

 Jika Ahmadiyah tetap tidak mau melaksanakan dua pilihan tersebut, maka kami 
mendesak pemerintah untuk bersikap tegas terhadap keberadaan Ahmadiyah, 
ujarnya.   

Sementara, Wakil Ketua DPRD Banten Irfan Maulidi mengatakan, dalam rapat 
koordinasi tersebut juga diwacanakan untuk dibuat payung hukum dalam bentuk 
Perda. Substansi dari Perda tersebut belum disepakati namun ada sejumlah 
alternatif yang bisa dilakukan yakni larangan terhadap Ahmadiyah untuk 
melakukan aktivitas, membubarkan Ahmadiyah atau Ahmadiyah membentuk agama 
sendiri.  

 Pembuatan Perda tentu membutuhkan waktu yang relatif lama. Langkah yang 
paling cepat untuk dilakukan yakni Penjabat Bupati Pandeglang Asmudji HW harus 
segera mengeluarkan SK larangan terhadap aktivitas Ahmadiyah di Banten, 
ujarnya.   

Gubernur Banten Hj Ratu Atut Chosiyah mengatakan, pihaknya akan menunggu usulan 
tertulis dari pihak MUI dan ormas Islam. Usulan tertulis itu, katanya akan 
menjadi acuan bagi Pemprov Banten untuk mengambil langkah.  

 Kami belum bisa memastikan payung hukum yang akan dibuat. Apakah nanti akan 
dibuat Peraturan  Gubernur (Pergub) atau Perda, nanti kami kaji terlebih dahulu 
usulan tertulis dari sejumlah elemen terkait tersebut, katanya. [149]

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[proletar] Re: Hidayatullah: Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik muskitawati


 Tawangalun tawangalun@... wrote:
 Al Quran itu isinya ada:
 Ar Rahman jadi Rasulpun welas asih.
 Al Kudus jadi Rasulpun bersih dari dosa.
 Al Ghafar jadi Rasul juga Pemaaf.
 Tapi juga Al Jabar jadi Rasul itu gagah juga.
 

Ada yang penting kelupaan, Rasul juga Al Capone, artinya Rasul juga terorist.

Ny. Muslim binti MUskitawati.











 Shalom,
 Tawangalun.
 
 --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, sikebenaran sikebenaran@ wrote:
 
  
  Betul betul betul kata Upin Upin :)
  
  
  --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@ wrote:
  
   ini pernyataan terselubung dari Hidayatullah kalo sebenarnya 
   Nabi Muhammad SAW adalah Allah swt.
   
   perhatikan kalimat dibawah pada bagian :
    Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an.
   
   katanya Al-Quran tuh turun dari langit melalui jibril di forward ke
   Nabi Muhammad SAW 
   skarang Hidayatulah bilangnya akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an
   
   itu jelas niru orang keresten yang memang yesus di tuhan-kan,
   karena orang2 keresten menganggap 'yesus adalah firman yg hidup'
   
   oleh Hidayatulah sedikit dipelesetkan jadi: akhlak rasulullah ibarat 
   al-Qur'an
   dengan kata lain al-Quran tuh sebatas rasulullah itu sendiri...
   
   gitu kan yg dimaksud Hidayatulah ?
   
   
   
   
   
   --- On Fri, 2/18/11, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote:
    
   
   Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad
   

   
   
   
   Senin, 14 Februari 2011
   
   
   
   Hidayatullah.com--Nabi Muhammad SAW memiliki akhlak yang mulia (Khuluqun 
   `azim). Tak ada cela sedikitpun. Dan, tak ada orang yang mampu menandingi 
   akhlaknya. Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an.
   
   
    
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

   
   
   
   
   

   
   
   
 
   
   
   
   
   
   
 
   
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[proletar] Re: Kegiatan Ahmadiyah Dilarang di Banten

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Wong kito galo  duluan .. Tahun (CMIIW) 2008 yl,
kalau ga salah.

Sumatera Selatan Resmi Larang Ahmadiyah
Jemaahnya masih menjalankan aktivitas.

PALEMBANG -- Pemerintah Provinsi Sumatera Selatan mulai kemarin resmi 
melarang aktivitas Ahmadiyah di provinsi tersebut. Sumatera Selatan 
adalah daerah pertama yang resmi melarang aktivitas Ahmadiyah di 
Indonesia.

Keputusan tersebut dibacakan langsung oleh Gubernur Sumatera Selatan 
Mahyudin N.S. kemarin di hadapan Kepala Kepolisian Daerah Sumatera 
Selatan Inspektur Jenderal Ito Sumardi, Panglima Kodam II Sriwijaya 
Mayor Jenderal Moh. Sochib, dan Kepala Kejaksaan Tinggi Sumatera Selatan
Armansyah.

Gubernur menyatakan Ahmadiyah harus menghentikan segala aktivitasnya 
yang mengatasanamakan Islam dan bertentangan dengan ajaran agama Islam 
di wilayah tersebut.


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 Jumat, 18 Februari 2011 | 19:45
  Gubernur Banten Hj Ratu Atut Chosiyah [google]
















 [SERANG] Rapat koordinasi sejumlah lembaga dan instansi di wilayah
Provinsi Banten yang dilakukan di Pendopo Kantor Gubernur Banten, Jumat
sore secara bulat menyepakati larangan terhadap aktivitas Jemaah
Ahmadiyah di Banten. Larangan ini akan dikristalisasikan dan
diimplementasikan dalam bentuk payung hukum baik itu dalam bentuk
peraturan daerah (perda) maupun dalam bentuk Surat Keputusan (SK)
bupati.

 Rapat koordinasi tersebut dihadiri oleh unsur TNI, Wakapolda Banten
Komisaris Besar (Kombes) Pol Nandang Jumantara, Ketua Majelis Ulama
Indonesia (MUI) Banten KH Aminudin Ibrahim, Wakil Ketua DPRD Banten
Irfan Maulidi, Wakil Gubernur Banten HM Masduki,

 Penjabat Bupati Pandeglang Asmudji HW, Sekda Banten Muhadi dan Asda I
Pemprov Banten Anwas Mas,ud. Rapat koordinasi tersebut dipimpin langsung
oleh Gubernur Banten Hj Ratu Atut Chosiyah.   Ketua MUI Banten KH
Aminudin Ibrahim menjelaskan, rapat koordinasi itu menyepakati beberapa
hal yakni larangan terhadap Jemaah Ahmadiyah di Banten untuk melakukan
aktivitas. Jika Ahmadiyah tetap melakukan aktivitas maka pilihan kedua
adalah Jemaah Ahmadiyah diminta untuk membentuk agama sendiri di luar
Islam dan dilarang menggunakan atribut Islam.

  Jika Ahmadiyah tetap tidak mau melaksanakan dua pilihan tersebut,
maka kami mendesak pemerintah untuk bersikap tegas terhadap keberadaan
Ahmadiyah, ujarnya.

 Sementara, Wakil Ketua DPRD Banten Irfan Maulidi mengatakan, dalam
rapat koordinasi tersebut juga diwacanakan untuk dibuat payung hukum
dalam bentuk Perda. Substansi dari Perda tersebut belum disepakati namun
ada sejumlah alternatif yang bisa dilakukan yakni larangan terhadap
Ahmadiyah untuk melakukan aktivitas, membubarkan Ahmadiyah atau
Ahmadiyah membentuk agama sendiri.

  Pembuatan Perda tentu membutuhkan waktu yang relatif lama. Langkah
yang paling cepat untuk dilakukan yakni Penjabat Bupati Pandeglang
Asmudji HW harus segera mengeluarkan SK larangan terhadap aktivitas
Ahmadiyah di Banten, ujarnya.

 Gubernur Banten Hj Ratu Atut Chosiyah mengatakan, pihaknya akan
menunggu usulan tertulis dari pihak MUI dan ormas Islam. Usulan tertulis
itu, katanya akan menjadi acuan bagi Pemprov Banten untuk mengambil
langkah.

  Kami belum bisa memastikan payung hukum yang akan dibuat. Apakah
nanti akan dibuat Peraturan  Gubernur (Pergub) atau Perda, nanti kami
kaji terlebih dahulu usulan tertulis dari sejumlah elemen terkait
tersebut, katanya. [149]

 Berita Terkait

   a.. Tak Ada Jalan Ditutup Selama Demo Pembubaran Ahmadiyah
   b.. Temuan Fakta Serangan di Desa Cikeusik Dibeberkan
   c.. Polisi Awasi Kegiatan Ahmadiyah di Bogor
   d.. Diharapkan Ada Solusi Permanen Soal Ahmadiyah


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[proletar] Re: Hidayatullah: Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik ndeboost
nDeboost  asbun: @Mustikawati bledug!!

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  Tawangalun tawangalun@ wrote:
  Al Quran itu isinya ada:
  Ar Rahman jadi Rasulpun welas asih.
  Al Kudus jadi Rasulpun bersih dari dosa.
  Al Ghafar jadi Rasul juga Pemaaf.
  Tapi juga Al Jabar jadi Rasul itu gagah juga.
 

 Ada yang penting kelupaan, Rasul juga Al Capone, artinya Rasul juga
terorist.

 Ny. Muslim binti MUskitawati.











  Shalom,
  Tawangalun.
 
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   Betul betul betul kata Upin Upin :)
  
  
   --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@ wrote:
   
ini pernyataan terselubung dari Hidayatullah kalo sebenarnya
Nabi Muhammad SAW adalah Allah swt.
   
perhatikan kalimat dibawah pada bagian :
 Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an.
   
katanya Al-Quran tuh turun dari langit melalui jibril di forward
ke
Nabi Muhammad SAW
skarang Hidayatulah bilangnya akhlak rasulullah ibarat
al-Qur'an
   
itu jelas niru orang keresten yang memang yesus di tuhan-kan,
karena orang2 keresten menganggap 'yesus adalah firman yg hidup'
   
oleh Hidayatulah sedikit dipelesetkan jadi: akhlak rasulullah
ibarat al-Qur'an
dengan kata lain al-Quran tuh sebatas rasulullah itu sendiri...
   
gitu kan yg dimaksud Hidayatulah ?
   
   
   
   
   
--- On Fri, 2/18/11, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote:
Â
   
Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad
   
   
   
   
   
Senin, 14 Februari 2011
   
   
   
Hidayatullah.com--Nabi Muhammad SAW memiliki akhlak yang mulia
(Khuluqun `azim). Tak ada cela sedikitpun. Dan, tak ada orang yang mampu
menandingi akhlaknya. Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat
al-Qur'an.
   
   
Â
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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[proletar] Re: Kegiatan Ahmadiyah Dilarang di Banten

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Wong bukan Islam kok  keukeh haji, lalu curi curi malah.
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, sunny ambon@... wrote:


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 Kegiatan Ahmadiyah Dilarang di Banten
 Jumat, 18 Februari 2011 | 19:45
  Gubernur Banten Hj Ratu Atut Chosiyah [google]
















 [SERANG] Rapat koordinasi sejumlah lembaga dan instansi di wilayah
Provinsi Banten yang dilakukan di Pendopo Kantor Gubernur Banten, Jumat
sore secara bulat menyepakati larangan terhadap aktivitas Jemaah
Ahmadiyah di Banten. Larangan ini akan dikristalisasikan dan
diimplementasikan dalam bentuk payung hukum baik itu dalam bentuk
peraturan daerah (perda) maupun dalam bentuk Surat Keputusan (SK)
bupati.

 Rapat koordinasi tersebut dihadiri oleh unsur TNI, Wakapolda Banten
Komisaris Besar (Kombes) Pol Nandang Jumantara, Ketua Majelis Ulama
Indonesia (MUI) Banten KH Aminudin Ibrahim, Wakil Ketua DPRD Banten
Irfan Maulidi, Wakil Gubernur Banten HM Masduki,

 Penjabat Bupati Pandeglang Asmudji HW, Sekda Banten Muhadi dan Asda I
Pemprov Banten Anwas Mas,ud. Rapat koordinasi tersebut dipimpin langsung
oleh Gubernur Banten Hj Ratu Atut Chosiyah.   Ketua MUI Banten KH
Aminudin Ibrahim menjelaskan, rapat koordinasi itu menyepakati beberapa
hal yakni larangan terhadap Jemaah Ahmadiyah di Banten untuk melakukan
aktivitas. Jika Ahmadiyah tetap melakukan aktivitas maka pilihan kedua
adalah Jemaah Ahmadiyah diminta untuk membentuk agama sendiri di luar
Islam dan dilarang menggunakan atribut Islam.

  Jika Ahmadiyah tetap tidak mau melaksanakan dua pilihan tersebut,
maka kami mendesak pemerintah untuk bersikap tegas terhadap keberadaan
Ahmadiyah, ujarnya.

 Sementara, Wakil Ketua DPRD Banten Irfan Maulidi mengatakan, dalam
rapat koordinasi tersebut juga diwacanakan untuk dibuat payung hukum
dalam bentuk Perda. Substansi dari Perda tersebut belum disepakati namun
ada sejumlah alternatif yang bisa dilakukan yakni larangan terhadap
Ahmadiyah untuk melakukan aktivitas, membubarkan Ahmadiyah atau
Ahmadiyah membentuk agama sendiri.

  Pembuatan Perda tentu membutuhkan waktu yang relatif lama. Langkah
yang paling cepat untuk dilakukan yakni Penjabat Bupati Pandeglang
Asmudji HW harus segera mengeluarkan SK larangan terhadap aktivitas
Ahmadiyah di Banten, ujarnya.

 Gubernur Banten Hj Ratu Atut Chosiyah mengatakan, pihaknya akan
menunggu usulan tertulis dari pihak MUI dan ormas Islam. Usulan tertulis
itu, katanya akan menjadi acuan bagi Pemprov Banten untuk mengambil
langkah.

  Kami belum bisa memastikan payung hukum yang akan dibuat. Apakah
nanti akan dibuat Peraturan  Gubernur (Pergub) atau Perda, nanti kami
kaji terlebih dahulu usulan tertulis dari sejumlah elemen terkait
tersebut, katanya. [149]

 Berita Terkait

   a.. Tak Ada Jalan Ditutup Selama Demo Pembubaran Ahmadiyah
   b.. Temuan Fakta Serangan di Desa Cikeusik Dibeberkan
   c.. Polisi Awasi Kegiatan Ahmadiyah di Bogor
   d.. Diharapkan Ada Solusi Permanen Soal Ahmadiyah


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[proletar] Re: Kegiatan Ahmadiyah Dilarang di Banten

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Habib Rizieq: Gubernur Sumsel Lebih Berani dari Presiden SBY!
Wednesday, 03 September 2008

Habib Rizieq Syihab, ketua Front Pembela Islam (FPI)  menilai sosok 
Gubernur Sumatera Selatan, Mahyudin, ternyata lebih berani dibanding 
Presiden Susilo Bambang Yudhodyono dalam menuntaskan masalah Ahmadiyah. 
Subhanallah Alhamdulillah Walilahailallahu Akbar!!! Ternyata
Gubernur  Sumsel lebih berani dari Presiden RI, ujar Habib yang
disampaikan ke  Suara Islam via SMS.

Habib mengatakan bahwa sang gubernur dengan gagah telah mengeluarkan SK 
PELARANGAN AHMADIYAH seprovinsi Sumatera Selatan sejak 1 September 2008.
Kapan sang Presiden RI punya nyali keluarkan KEPRES PEMBUBARAN 
AHMADIYAH? ujarnya.

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 Kegiatan Ahmadiyah Dilarang di Banten
 Jumat, 18 Februari 2011 | 19:45
  Gubernur Banten Hj Ratu Atut Chosiyah [google]
















 [SERANG] Rapat koordinasi sejumlah lembaga dan instansi di wilayah
Provinsi Banten yang dilakukan di Pendopo Kantor Gubernur Banten, Jumat
sore secara bulat menyepakati larangan terhadap aktivitas Jemaah
Ahmadiyah di Banten. Larangan ini akan dikristalisasikan dan
diimplementasikan dalam bentuk payung hukum baik itu dalam bentuk
peraturan daerah (perda) maupun dalam bentuk Surat Keputusan (SK)
bupati.

 Rapat koordinasi tersebut dihadiri oleh unsur TNI, Wakapolda Banten
Komisaris Besar (Kombes) Pol Nandang Jumantara, Ketua Majelis Ulama
Indonesia (MUI) Banten KH Aminudin Ibrahim, Wakil Ketua DPRD Banten
Irfan Maulidi, Wakil Gubernur Banten HM Masduki,

 Penjabat Bupati Pandeglang Asmudji HW, Sekda Banten Muhadi dan Asda I
Pemprov Banten Anwas Mas,ud. Rapat koordinasi tersebut dipimpin langsung
oleh Gubernur Banten Hj Ratu Atut Chosiyah.   Ketua MUI Banten KH
Aminudin Ibrahim menjelaskan, rapat koordinasi itu menyepakati beberapa
hal yakni larangan terhadap Jemaah Ahmadiyah di Banten untuk melakukan
aktivitas. Jika Ahmadiyah tetap melakukan aktivitas maka pilihan kedua
adalah Jemaah Ahmadiyah diminta untuk membentuk agama sendiri di luar
Islam dan dilarang menggunakan atribut Islam.

  Jika Ahmadiyah tetap tidak mau melaksanakan dua pilihan tersebut,
maka kami mendesak pemerintah untuk bersikap tegas terhadap keberadaan
Ahmadiyah, ujarnya.

 Sementara, Wakil Ketua DPRD Banten Irfan Maulidi mengatakan, dalam
rapat koordinasi tersebut juga diwacanakan untuk dibuat payung hukum
dalam bentuk Perda. Substansi dari Perda tersebut belum disepakati namun
ada sejumlah alternatif yang bisa dilakukan yakni larangan terhadap
Ahmadiyah untuk melakukan aktivitas, membubarkan Ahmadiyah atau
Ahmadiyah membentuk agama sendiri.

  Pembuatan Perda tentu membutuhkan waktu yang relatif lama. Langkah
yang paling cepat untuk dilakukan yakni Penjabat Bupati Pandeglang
Asmudji HW harus segera mengeluarkan SK larangan terhadap aktivitas
Ahmadiyah di Banten, ujarnya.

 Gubernur Banten Hj Ratu Atut Chosiyah mengatakan, pihaknya akan
menunggu usulan tertulis dari pihak MUI dan ormas Islam. Usulan tertulis
itu, katanya akan menjadi acuan bagi Pemprov Banten untuk mengambil
langkah.

  Kami belum bisa memastikan payung hukum yang akan dibuat. Apakah
nanti akan dibuat Peraturan  Gubernur (Pergub) atau Perda, nanti kami
kaji terlebih dahulu usulan tertulis dari sejumlah elemen terkait
tersebut, katanya. [149]

 Berita Terkait

   a.. Tak Ada Jalan Ditutup Selama Demo Pembubaran Ahmadiyah
   b.. Temuan Fakta Serangan di Desa Cikeusik Dibeberkan
   c.. Polisi Awasi Kegiatan Ahmadiyah di Bogor
   d.. Diharapkan Ada Solusi Permanen Soal Ahmadiyah


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[proletar] Anti-Ahmadiah (= Islamophobia) Menjangkiti MUI !!!

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik muskitawati
Anti-Ahmadiah (= Islamophobia) Menjangkiti MUI !!!

Kalo dunia barat bukan takut kepada muslimin karena terbukti muslimin dan Islam 
bebas masuk kesana.  Namun kenyataan tidak bisa dibantah, ajaran Islam itu 
banyak ayat2 yang berisi teror terhadap mereka yang bukan Islam yang oleh 
alquran disebutnya kafir.  Kalo cuma ayatnya saja sih enggak beda2 banyak 
dengan kitab suci Yahudi atau bible.

Disini bukan cuma sekedar ayat2 teror, melainkan ulama2nya juga mengajarkan 
tentang kewajiban teror itu dalam kerangka menegakkan Syariah Islam.  Itupun 
belum perlu ditindak karena kalo cuma dakwah dalam kerangka agama boleh 
dikatakan sebagai rutinitas bagi masing2 kepercayaan setiap orang.

Yang paling parah adalah mereka betul2 melakukan teror terkutuk sementara yang 
lainnya secara diam2 mendukungnya.  Naaah...  ini bukanlah Islamophobia 
melainkan sudah masuk ranah security negara sehingga bukan rakyat negara maju 
yang disibukkan melainkan pihak securitynya yang dibayar dengan pajak rakyat 
dengan kewajiban mengamankannya.

Demikianlah pembagian tugas berlangsung baik, team security mengawasi mereka 
yang mencurigakan terutama orang2 Asing yang berasal dari negara2 Islam yang 
oleh pihak security diamati dan diperiksa.  Kembali lagi, ini adalah petugas 
security bukan rakyat yang Islamophobia karena rakyat negara maju sudah 
di-kapling2 professinya, satu sama lain tidak mencampuri urusan bidang mereka 
yang bertugas, mereka cukup memberi bantuan dengan mematuhi perintah2 dari 
pihak security.

Demikianlah, Islamophobia tidak sama dengan kegiatan security sehingga hal 
seperti itu bukanlah Islamophobia karena istilah -phobia artinya kekuatiran 
yang tidak ada dasarnya, padahal rakyat jelata sama sekali tidak ada kekuatiran 
apapun dalam kaitan beragama karena masing2 dilarang menonjolkan agamanya.

Beda sekali dengan di Indonesia, Islam Ahmadiah bukan teroris, tidak melakukan 
teror dan juga tidak diawasi oleh pihak security nasional, namun terjadi 
ketakutan, kebencian, dan pendholiman terhadap umatnya karena ketakutan yang 
tidak ada dasarnya, dan inilah yang kita namakan Islamophobia dalam arti yang 
sebenarnya.

Akidah Islam Ahmadiah ditafsirkan oleh yang bukan Ahmadiah secara berbeda dari 
yang ditafsirkan oleh umat Ahmadiah itu sendiri.  Setelah menafsirkannya mereka 
menganggapnya sesat yang kesemuanya bukan berasal dari Ahmadiahnya itu sendiri 
melainkan dari brainwash para ulama yang menafsirkannya itu.  Itulah yang kita 
namakan Islamophobia.

Ny. Muslim binti Muskitawati.








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SENSITIVE.. Re: [proletar] milis ini paling lucuuu.....

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik ayub yahya
perasaan gw gak nyebut nama orang dweh..
tapi ada yang sensi...

pantesan Wawan baca milis ini ampe tertawa ter-pingkal2

bener Wan..!!
gw juga ter-pingkal2...  hahahaha.. ampe  LOL !!

 


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dan ayub yahya yang sedeng dan berotak anjing ikut geromblon orang Islam buat 
menyebar dusta dan fintah...



Bagusnya orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka ngerja'in atau 
berolok-olok yang adalah pengakuan bahwa mereka itu bangsat yang sudah 
kehabisan argumen daan atidak bisa membantah apa yagn saya katakan..



--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@... wrote:



 lucu dan menyedihkan.. 

 

 ada aki-aki yg mustinya di denger pengalaman hidupnya,

 saat dia ngadepin pimpinan otoriter.. yg nyaksiin sendiri

 pembantaian PKI...

 

 boro boro di dengerin.. malah di pakai jithak2-an

 

 menyedihkan tenan...

 

 celakanya !!.. dia menikmati palanya buat jithak2-an

 

 

 

 

 --- On Fri, 2/18/11, wawan selarasmilis@... wrote:
     

 

 saya tertawa terpingkal-pingkal baca posting2 di milis ini...
   

 lucu tenan...
   

 benernya disini banyak yg kreatip...

 

 

 

 banyak orang aneh bakalan dilahirkan dari milis ini :))

 
   

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[proletar] Re: Kegiatan Ahmadiyah Dilarang di Banten

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Jend (Purn) Ali Baz Khan: Ahmadiyah Tak Ada Masalah di Pakistan
Rabu, 09 Februari 2011


http://www.hidayatullah.com/read/15256/09/02/2011/jend-%28purn%29-ali-ba\
z-khan:-ahmadiyah-tak-ada-masalah-di-pakistan.html

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, sunny ambon@... wrote:


http://www.suarapembaruan.com/home/kegiatan-ahmadiyah-dilarang-di-banten\
/3827

 Kegiatan Ahmadiyah Dilarang di Banten
 Jumat, 18 Februari 2011 | 19:45
  Gubernur Banten Hj Ratu Atut Chosiyah [google]
















 [SERANG] Rapat koordinasi sejumlah lembaga dan instansi di wilayah
Provinsi Banten yang dilakukan di Pendopo Kantor Gubernur Banten, Jumat
sore secara bulat menyepakati larangan terhadap aktivitas Jemaah
Ahmadiyah di Banten. Larangan ini akan dikristalisasikan dan
diimplementasikan dalam bentuk payung hukum baik itu dalam bentuk
peraturan daerah (perda) maupun dalam bentuk Surat Keputusan (SK)
bupati.

 Rapat koordinasi tersebut dihadiri oleh unsur TNI, Wakapolda Banten
Komisaris Besar (Kombes) Pol Nandang Jumantara, Ketua Majelis Ulama
Indonesia (MUI) Banten KH Aminudin Ibrahim, Wakil Ketua DPRD Banten
Irfan Maulidi, Wakil Gubernur Banten HM Masduki,

 Penjabat Bupati Pandeglang Asmudji HW, Sekda Banten Muhadi dan Asda I
Pemprov Banten Anwas Mas,ud. Rapat koordinasi tersebut dipimpin langsung
oleh Gubernur Banten Hj Ratu Atut Chosiyah.   Ketua MUI Banten KH
Aminudin Ibrahim menjelaskan, rapat koordinasi itu menyepakati beberapa
hal yakni larangan terhadap Jemaah Ahmadiyah di Banten untuk melakukan
aktivitas. Jika Ahmadiyah tetap melakukan aktivitas maka pilihan kedua
adalah Jemaah Ahmadiyah diminta untuk membentuk agama sendiri di luar
Islam dan dilarang menggunakan atribut Islam.

  Jika Ahmadiyah tetap tidak mau melaksanakan dua pilihan tersebut,
maka kami mendesak pemerintah untuk bersikap tegas terhadap keberadaan
Ahmadiyah, ujarnya.

 Sementara, Wakil Ketua DPRD Banten Irfan Maulidi mengatakan, dalam
rapat koordinasi tersebut juga diwacanakan untuk dibuat payung hukum
dalam bentuk Perda. Substansi dari Perda tersebut belum disepakati namun
ada sejumlah alternatif yang bisa dilakukan yakni larangan terhadap
Ahmadiyah untuk melakukan aktivitas, membubarkan Ahmadiyah atau
Ahmadiyah membentuk agama sendiri.

  Pembuatan Perda tentu membutuhkan waktu yang relatif lama. Langkah
yang paling cepat untuk dilakukan yakni Penjabat Bupati Pandeglang
Asmudji HW harus segera mengeluarkan SK larangan terhadap aktivitas
Ahmadiyah di Banten, ujarnya.

 Gubernur Banten Hj Ratu Atut Chosiyah mengatakan, pihaknya akan
menunggu usulan tertulis dari pihak MUI dan ormas Islam. Usulan tertulis
itu, katanya akan menjadi acuan bagi Pemprov Banten untuk mengambil
langkah.

  Kami belum bisa memastikan payung hukum yang akan dibuat. Apakah
nanti akan dibuat Peraturan  Gubernur (Pergub) atau Perda, nanti kami
kaji terlebih dahulu usulan tertulis dari sejumlah elemen terkait
tersebut, katanya. [149]

 Berita Terkait

   a.. Tak Ada Jalan Ditutup Selama Demo Pembubaran Ahmadiyah
   b.. Temuan Fakta Serangan di Desa Cikeusik Dibeberkan
   c.. Polisi Awasi Kegiatan Ahmadiyah di Bogor
   d.. Diharapkan Ada Solusi Permanen Soal Ahmadiyah


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[proletar] Re: Anti-Ahmadiah (= Islamophobia) Menjangkiti MUI !!!

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik ndeboost
Anti-Ahmadiah (= Islamophobia) Menjangkiti @Mustikawati !!!

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, muskitawati muskitawati@... wrote:

 Anti-Ahmadiah (= Islamophobia) Menjangkiti MUI !!!

 Kalo dunia barat bukan takut kepada muslimin karena terbukti muslimin
dan Islam bebas masuk kesana.  Namun kenyataan tidak bisa dibantah,
ajaran Islam itu banyak ayat2 yang berisi teror terhadap mereka yang
bukan Islam yang oleh alquran disebutnya kafir.  Kalo cuma ayatnya
saja sih enggak beda2 banyak dengan kitab suci Yahudi atau bible.

 Disini bukan cuma sekedar ayat2 teror, melainkan ulama2nya juga
mengajarkan tentang kewajiban teror itu dalam kerangka menegakkan
Syariah Islam.  Itupun belum perlu ditindak karena kalo cuma dakwah
dalam kerangka agama boleh dikatakan sebagai rutinitas bagi masing2
kepercayaan setiap orang.

 Yang paling parah adalah mereka betul2 melakukan teror terkutuk
sementara yang lainnya secara diam2 mendukungnya.  Naaah...  ini
bukanlah Islamophobia melainkan sudah masuk ranah security negara
sehingga bukan rakyat negara maju yang disibukkan melainkan pihak
securitynya yang dibayar dengan pajak rakyat dengan kewajiban
mengamankannya.

 Demikianlah pembagian tugas berlangsung baik, team security mengawasi
mereka yang mencurigakan terutama orang2 Asing yang berasal dari negara2
Islam yang oleh pihak security diamati dan diperiksa.  Kembali lagi, ini
adalah petugas security bukan rakyat yang Islamophobia karena rakyat
negara maju sudah di-kapling2 professinya, satu sama lain tidak
mencampuri urusan bidang mereka yang bertugas, mereka cukup memberi
bantuan dengan mematuhi perintah2 dari pihak security.

 Demikianlah, Islamophobia tidak sama dengan kegiatan security sehingga
hal seperti itu bukanlah Islamophobia karena istilah -phobia artinya
kekuatiran yang tidak ada dasarnya, padahal rakyat jelata sama sekali
tidak ada kekuatiran apapun dalam kaitan beragama karena masing2
dilarang menonjolkan agamanya.

 Beda sekali dengan di Indonesia, Islam Ahmadiah bukan teroris, tidak
melakukan teror dan juga tidak diawasi oleh pihak security nasional,
namun terjadi ketakutan, kebencian, dan pendholiman terhadap umatnya
karena ketakutan yang tidak ada dasarnya, dan inilah yang kita namakan
Islamophobia dalam arti yang sebenarnya.

 Akidah Islam Ahmadiah ditafsirkan oleh yang bukan Ahmadiah secara
berbeda dari yang ditafsirkan oleh umat Ahmadiah itu sendiri.  Setelah
menafsirkannya mereka menganggapnya sesat yang kesemuanya bukan berasal
dari Ahmadiahnya itu sendiri melainkan dari brainwash para ulama yang
menafsirkannya itu.  Itulah yang kita namakan Islamophobia.

 Ny. Muslim binti Muskitawati.







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SENSITIVE.. Re: [proletar] milis ini paling lucuuu.....

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik ndeboost
dan ayub yahya yang sedeng dan berotak anjing ikut geromblon orang
Islam.

nDeboost yg pendebu ikutan ah .
Kwkwkwkwkwk .

...sedeng dan berotak anjing... jelas nDeboost ga tahu.
..ikut gerombolan Islam Amin yra.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@... wrote:

 perasaan gw gak nyebut nama orang dweh..
 tapi ada yang sensi...

 pantesan Wawan baca milis ini ampe tertawa ter-pingkal2

 bener Wan..!!
 gw juga ter-pingkal2...  hahahaha.. ampe  LOL !!

 Â


 --- On Fri, 2/18/11, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote:







 Â











 dan ayub yahya yang sedeng dan berotak anjing ikut geromblon orang
Islam buat menyebar dusta dan fintah...



 Bagusnya orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka ngerja'in atau
berolok-olok yang adalah pengakuan bahwa mereka itu bangsat yang sudah
kehabisan argumen daan atidak bisa membantah apa yagn saya katakan..



 --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@ wrote:

 

  lucu dan menyedihkan..

 

  ada aki-aki yg mustinya di denger pengalaman hidupnya,

  saat dia ngadepin pimpinan otoriter.. yg nyaksiin sendiri

  pembantaian PKI...

 

  boro boro di dengerin.. malah di pakai jithak2-an

 

  menyedihkan tenan...

 

  celakanya !!.. dia menikmati palanya buat jithak2-an

 

 

 

 

  --- On Fri, 2/18/11, wawan selarasmilis@ wrote:
 Â Â

 

  saya tertawa terpingkal-pingkal baca posting2 di milis ini...
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  lucu tenan...
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  benernya disini banyak yg kreatip...

 

 

 

  banyak orang aneh bakalan dilahirkan dari milis ini :))

 
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Re: [proletar]Hidayatullah: Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik ayub yahya
gak ada klarifikasi dari Tawang, yang ada cuma peng-kultus-an,
nabi Muhammad tuh gagah juga
jadi statemen Hidayatulah bahwa :
al-Quran hanya sebatas Nabi Muhammad ini di amin-kan

Wang, kalo gitu nabi Muhammad kalah jauh ama Bill Gate
Bill Gate kagak baca al-quran.. tapi microsoft nya banyak
dipakai orang2 islam.. termasuk tawang

piye Wang ? 
pernyataan lu nomer 1 - 3, mahatma ghandi juga bisa...
yang nomer 4, bill gate jauh lebih gagah karena bill gate
pakai kaca mata.. hehehe



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  Al Quran itu isinya ada:

1. Ar Rahman jadi Rasulpun welas asih.

2. Al Kudus jadi Rasulpun bersih dari dosa.

3. Al Ghafar jadi Rasul juga Pemaaf.

4. Tapi juga Al Jabar jadi Rasul itu gagah juga.



Shalom,

Tawangalun.



--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, sikebenaran sikebenaran@... wrote:



 

 Betul betul betul kata Upin Upin :)

 

 

 --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@ wrote:

 

  ini pernyataan terselubung dari Hidayatullah kalo sebenarnya 

  Nabi Muhammad SAW adalah Allah swt.

  

  perhatikan kalimat dibawah pada bagian :

   Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an.

  

  katanya Al-Quran tuh turun dari langit melalui jibril di forward ke

  Nabi Muhammad SAW 

  skarang Hidayatulah bilangnya akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an

  

  itu jelas niru orang keresten yang memang yesus di tuhan-kan,

  karena orang2 keresten menganggap 'yesus adalah firman yg hidup'

  

  oleh Hidayatulah sedikit dipelesetkan jadi: akhlak rasulullah ibarat 
  al-Qur'an

  dengan kata lain al-Quran tuh sebatas rasulullah itu sendiri...

  

  gitu kan yg dimaksud Hidayatulah ?

  

  

  

  

  

  --- On Fri, 2/18/11, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote:

   

  

  Banyak Orang Mulai Tak Idolakan Nabi Muhammad

  

   

  

  

  

  Senin, 14 Februari 2011

  

  

  

  Hidayatullah.com--Nabi Muhammad SAW memiliki akhlak yang mulia (Khuluqun 
  `azim). Tak ada cela sedikitpun. Dan, tak ada orang yang mampu menandingi 
  akhlaknya. Bahkan, dikatakan, akhlak rasulullah ibarat al-Qur'an.

  

  

   

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

   

  

  

  

  

  

   

  

  

  



  

  

  

  

  

  



  

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[proletar] Software SMS Center / SMS Gateway / SMS Marketing / SMS Server

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Support
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[proletar] Palsu 'pa orisinil (8): Kemana Perginya (Bila Mauknya?)

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik ndeboost

1 Raja 4:4

Benaya bin Yoyada menjadi panglima; Zadok dan Abyatar menjadi imam.

http://sabdaweb.sabda.org/passages/?o=0version=endep=1+Raja+4%3A4d=20\
lang=indonesiatheme=clearsky
Cilukk…. Ba!!!


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[proletar] Fw: [pecinan] TicketBox ESTUBIZI: We're getting closer to Jakarta International JAVA JAZZ Fest

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik suryana
Ayooo kita setting yang mau nonton Santana nya ajah
Black Magic Woman dada dadaaadadadadad
Apa ticket nya beli sekarang mumpung masih murah, siapa yang bisa beli, dan 
uang di transfer ke siapa ?

Kang Reza bisa jadi Koordinator nih.

sur.
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SENSITIVE.. Re: [proletar] milis ini paling lucuuu.....

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

dan ayub yahya yang sedeng dan berotak anjing ikut geromblon orang Islam buat
menyebar dusta dan fintah...



Bagusnya orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka ngerja'in atau
berolok-olok yang adalah pengakuan bahwa mereka itu bangsat yang sudah
kehabisan argumen daan atidak bisa membantah apa yagn saya katakan..


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@... wrote:

 perasaan gw gak nyebut nama orang dweh..
 tapi ada yang sensi...
 
 pantesan Wawan baca milis ini ampe tertawa ter-pingkal2
 
 bener Wan..!!
 gw juga ter-pingkal2...  hahahaha.. ampe  LOL !!
 
 Â 
 
 
 --- On Fri, 2/18/11, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 dan ayub yahya yang sedeng dan berotak anjing ikut geromblon orang Islam buat 
 menyebar dusta dan fintah...
 
 
 
 Bagusnya orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka ngerja'in atau 
 berolok-olok yang adalah pengakuan bahwa mereka itu bangsat yang sudah 
 kehabisan argumen daan atidak bisa membantah apa yagn saya katakan..
 
 
 
 --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@ wrote:
 
 
 
  lucu dan menyedihkan.. 
 
  
 
  ada aki-aki yg mustinya di denger pengalaman hidupnya,
 
  saat dia ngadepin pimpinan otoriter.. yg nyaksiin sendiri
 
  pembantaian PKI...
 
  
 
  boro boro di dengerin.. malah di pakai jithak2-an
 
  
 
  menyedihkan tenan...
 
  
 
  celakanya !!.. dia menikmati palanya buat jithak2-an
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  --- On Fri, 2/18/11, wawan selarasmilis@ wrote:
 Â Â
 
  
 
  saya tertawa terpingkal-pingkal baca posting2 di milis ini...
 Â Â  
 
  lucu tenan...
 Â Â  
 
  benernya disini banyak yg kreatip...
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  banyak orang aneh bakalan dilahirkan dari milis ini :))
 
  
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[proletar] Aljazeera: Djiboutians rally to oust president

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
Africa
Djiboutians rally to oust president
Police use tear gas to disperse thousands demonstrating in East African nation 
to demand Ismail Omar Guelleh step down.
Last Modified: 18 Feb 2011 19:13 GMT

Thousands of demonstrators have rallied in the East African nation of Djibouti 
to demand that president Ismail Omar Guelleh resign, the latest in a series of 
demonstrations spurred on by political protests across Africa and the Middle 
East.

Amid a tight police deployment, the demonstrators gathered at a stadium on 
Friday with the intention of staying there until their demands were met.

But the demonstration escalated into clashes after dusk, as authorities used 
batons and tear gas against stone-throwing protesters.

Guelleh has served two terms and faces an election in April, but critics are 
concerned by changes he made to the constitution last year that scrapped a 
two-term limit.

Officials from the Union for Democratic Change, an umbrella group of three 
opposition parties, gave speeches at Friday's demonstration calling for Guelleh 
to step down.

The group's leader, Ismael Guedi Hared, told the AFP news agency before the 
demonstration that Guelleh should leave power and called for a sustained 
protest movement.

For the moment, our goal is to remove Ismael Omar Guelleh from power, he said.

'Rising confidence'

Guelleh ran without opposition in 2005. One potential challenger this year, 
Abdourahman Boreh, is supporting the anti-Guelleh demonstrations but currently 
lives in the UK.

Boreh, 51, said that if he returned to Djibouti he would be put in prison and 
could be tortured.

In the wake of events like Tunisia and Egypt the president's instinct will 
almost certainly lead him to violence to counter the rising confidence of the 
demonstrators,'' Boreh told the Associated Press news agency.

What we really want is a peaceful demonstration where the people can express 
their feelings for freedom, their
feelings for a democratic transition of the government, because this government 
has been in power for the last 34 years. The people want change.''

Sustained protests urged

The number of international organisations that operate in Djibouti are sparse. 
One group in the country is Democracy International, which is working on a 
US-funded project to monitor the April vote.

The head of the group's observation mission, Chris Hennemeyer, said anyone in 
Djibouti expecting the popular uprisings that Egypt and Tunisia saw will be 
disappointed. He said while the turnout for Friday's rally would be low, it is 
moderately significant'' by Djiboutian standards.

Djibouti's first political rally broke out after the Muslim country's Friday 
prayers on January 28. Democracy International estimated that 2,000 to 3,000 
people attended.

More demonstrations happened in early February, and police used tear gas and 
rubber bullets to disperse a demonstration on February 5, according to Human 
Rights Watch.

Then, the president of the Djiboutian League of Human Rights, was arrested on 
February 9 after reporting on the arrests of students and members of opposition 
political parties following the demonstrations, according to Human Rights Watch.

The 63-year-old Guelleh has been in power since 1999 and the new constitution 
allows him to stand for two more six-year terms.





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[proletar] (CNN): John DefteriosMiddle East: Change is never easy

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

February 18th, 2011
05:53 PM GMT

Middle East: Change is never easy
30x30.john.defterios
Posted by:
CNN business anchor, John Defterios

As an active observer and a consistent visitor of the Middle East, one asks a 
simple question: Why does it have to be this way?

I am not talking about Shiite/Sunni divides, the Palestinian/Israeli conflict 
or Iran's growing influence in the region, but persistent and unacceptable 
levels of poverty in a region blessed with nearly half of the world's oil and 
gas reserves.

First it was Tunisia, then Egypt, Yemen, Algeria, Libya and stretching into the 
Gulf with Bahrain.

There are major historical and cultural differences, of course, and even vast 
differences in per-capita income – Bahrain for example is high at $38,400, 
Yemen low at $2,500. But a few common threads can be found: the region's youth 
lack opportunities, power is concentrated at the top and the inner circle 
around them, and most waited too long to embrace the winds of change brought on 
by globalization.

A small but influential group of business people from the region formed the 
Arab Business Council (ABC) within the World Economic Forum in June 2003. I 
attended one of its first major meetings, ironically, in Manama, Bahrain, in 
2005, where the co-founders and architects of the initiative rang alarm bells 
about rapid birth rates and the need to create 100 million jobs by 2020. That 
number was not to lower unemployment but to only tread water in terms of 
double-digit jobless rates amongst the region's youth.

During a series of panels and interviews and in our coverage on Marketplace 
Middle East, we consistently asked how it would be possible to create that many 
jobs in such a short span of time. In sum, the symptom was easy to identify, 
the remedy much more complex. The ABC talked of PPPs, public-private 
partnerships, accelerating reforms and opening up governments - especially the 
monarchies in the Gulf States – to a wider swath of the population.

In fairness, economic reforms have taken place. In Egypt, nearly $50 billion 
dollars flowed in as a result of lower taxes, labor reforms and the setting up 
of industrial zones and improved infrastructure.

A visit to Bahrain would clearly lead one to believe it earned a reputation as 
the Switzerland of the Middle East. Tax rates are fair, the labor force 
educated and meetings start on time. No wonder both of these economies grew 
during the global downturn, whether it was Egypt with 80 million people or tiny 
Bahrain with about 800,000 nationals.

But it would also be fair to say that reforms were started too late and have 
certainly not benefited everyone equally. While Emirates, Qatar Airways and now 
Etihad have set up large fleets, fly into first class airport hubs for 
travellers between Europe and Asia and connect the Middle East to the world, 
the region until very recently was bypassed by foreign investors. China and 
India were beckoning, as well as an ASEAN market of 600 million consumers in 
Southeast Asia.

To be frank, a potential market of 350 million consumers in the Middle East has 
not come together fast enough. Old rivalries amongst the region's royals still 
persist and until this social media revolution kicked off the power brokers of 
North Africa have been (and some still are) unwilling to open up their 
economies and their societies to change.

During a wide-ranging interview with the Crown Prince of Bahrain two years ago, 
#65279;#65279;#65279;#65279;Sheikh Salman bin Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa 
#65279;#65279;noted that change has to be managed.

In his words: Change is never easy but I think it must be tackled with the 
right ambition, must be tackled with the right energy as well to achieve 
success.

His answer pertained to a question on why some senior Sunni legislators were 
resisting efforts by the ruling Khalifa family to open up parliament to more of 
their Shiite counterparts.

The government - unusually for the region – has made efforts to put forth 
economic and political reforms, but in this new environment, with populations 
viewing their neighbors' actions online and on their TV set top boxes, the pace 
of the change in the recent past is proving too slow for a younger, educated 
generation which is not asking, but demanding more.






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[proletar] Angin perubahan melanda Timur Tengah

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Angin perubahan melanda Timur Tengah

Tapi hingga pag ini masih nggak banyak tuh orang Islam yang pada
dungu-dungu kayak anjing
seperti Dipo,
johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus,
Tawang dll. yang buka bacot tentang kejadian di Timur Tengah itu.

Nggak heran...

Pertama, karena dengan otak mereka yang sudah pada rusak berat, jelas
mereka
tidak tahu betapa pentingnya apa yang terjadi di Timur Tengah untuk dunia,
artinya juga
untuk Indonesia.

Kedua, dengan otak mereka yang sudah pada rusak berat pengetahuan
dasar tentang
Timur Tengah juga nyaris nihil.

Jadi ya pada melongo kayak babi.





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[proletar] ayub yahya yang betul-betul dungu kayak kerbau..

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Saya menunjukkan kedunguan dan kebusukan orang Islam yang tidak punya harga diri
dibilangnya saya belajar menjilat pantat orang Islam.

ayub yahya itu betul-betul dungu kayak kerbau..

Betul-betul menyedihkan.






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[proletar] kayak ndeboost ayub yahya itu juga suka OOT.

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Perhatikan posting ayub yahya yang otaknya sudah rusak dan jadi bangsat pendusta
dan pememfitnah yang busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan..

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/302536

Dari topik kelakuan gerombolan orang Islam di mùailing list ini dia OOT
kepertanyaan sedeng yang diajukan orang disini..

Saya sudah bilang, beda ayub yahya dan ndeboost itu tidak banyak.





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[proletar] ayub yahya yang katanya abangan ikut gerombolan orang Islam penyebar dusta dan

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

ayub yahya yang katanya abangan ikut gerombolan orang Islam penyebar dusta dan
fitnah..

Dan beda kapasitas otak ayub yahya itu memang nggak banyak beda kok dengan
kapasita otak Tawang atau ndeboost..





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[proletar] Re: milis ini paling lucuuu.....(ayub yahya yang sedeng dan berotak anjing ikut

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

dan ayub yahya yang sedeng dan berotak anjing ikut geromblon orang Islam buat
menyebar dusta dan fintah...

Bagusnya orang Islam udah pada ngaku bahwa mereka ngerja'in atau
berolok-olok yang adalah pengakuan bahwa mereka itu bangsat yang sudah
kehabisan argumen daan atidak bisa membantah apa yagn saya katakan..


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@... wrote:

 lucu dan menyedihkan.. 
 
 ada aki-aki yg mustinya di denger pengalaman hidupnya,
 saat dia ngadepin pimpinan otoriter.. yg nyaksiin sendiri
 pembantaian PKI...
 
 boro boro di dengerin.. malah di pakai jithak2-an
 
 menyedihkan tenan...
 
 celakanya !!.. dia menikmati palanya buat jithak2-an
 
 
 
 
 --- On Fri, 2/18/11, wawan selarasmilis@... wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Â 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
 
 saya tertawa terpingkal-pingkal baca posting2 di milis ini...
 
 
 
 lucu tenan...
 
 
 
 benernya disini banyak yg kreatip...
 
 
 
 banyak orang aneh bakalan dilahirkan dari milis ini :))
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
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[proletar] Selain Hasan Basri dan ayub yahya, bangsat tukang fitnah dan pendusta disni

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Selain Hasan Basri dan ayub yahya, bangsat tukang fitnah dan pendusta disni
semua orang Islam seperti Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA,
rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang..

Dan duh dungu dan dangkalnya pengetahuan mereka...





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[proletar] Re: Rutin..(ayub yahya bangsat pendusta dan bajingan tukang fitnah

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
ayub yahya yang seperti juga orang Islam kayak Dipo, johny-indon,
ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus,
Tawang dll. adalah bangsat pendusta dan bajingan tukang fitnah yang busuk, nista
laagi menjijikkan pamer lagi isi otaknya yang busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan..


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya ayubyahya@... wrote:

 hahaha... namanya juga anak-anak
 
 masih perlu di ingatkan... LOL ..LOL !!!
 
 --- On Thu, 2/17/11, sunny ambon@... wrote:
 
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   Hati-hati licin
 
 
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   From: Jusfiq 
 Â 
   
 
 
 
 Pagi tadi rutin..
 
 
 
 Nggak ada yang istimewa.
 
 
 
 Nggak hujan, nggak ada salju dan nggk ada angin.
 
 
 
 Saya perpanjang trayek saya sedikit dekat stasiun kereta Lamenshans..
 
 
 
 Dan baru sampai dirumahkembali setelah lari-lari selama 98 menit 3 
 
   detik.
 
 
 
 Dan, ya, keringatan dan ngos-ngosan.
 
 
 
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[proletar] Selain ayub yahya yang ngaku abangan dan Hasan Basri pengeritik Islam, maka

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq


Selain ayub yahya yang ngaku abangan dan Hasan Basri pengeritik Islam, maka
bangsat pendusta dan tukang fitnah yang bertabiat busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan
di mailing list ini adalah orang Islam yaitu Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA
PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang dll.






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[proletar] Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok..

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
Beda ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti ndeboost nggak banyak kok..

Sama-sama dungu kayak babi, sama-sama pendusta dan sama-sama tukang fitnah.

Isi otak mereka sama-sama busuknya kok.






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[proletar] Jufiq onaninya susah selesai?

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Habe
Belum ya?






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[proletar] Re: Jufiq onaninya susah selesai? (Hasan Basri juga sudah jadi gila..)

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Hasan Basri bangsat tukang tipu dan bajingan tukang kikbul yagn busuk, nista 
lagi menjijikka sekarang juga sudah jadi gila seperti juga ayub yahya dan orang 
Islam seperti Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA
PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang dll.

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[proletar] Re: Jufiq onaninya susah selesai? (Hasan Basri juga sudah jadi gila..)

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Hasan Basri bangsat tukang tipu dan bajingan tukang kibul yagn busuk, nista 
lagi menjijikka sekarang juga sudah jadi gila seperti juga ayub yahya dan orang 
Islam seperti Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA
PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang dll.

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[proletar] Hasan Basri ketangkap basah ngibul bilang Duke bukan moderator..

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Jusfiq
Hasan Basri ketangkap basah ngibul bilang Duke bukan moderator..

Sejak itu otaknya jadi rusak dan juga jadi busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan kayak 
otak ayub yahya dan orang Islam seperti seperti Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, 
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[proletar] Re: Jufiq onaninya susah selesai? (Hasan Basri juga sudah jadi gila..)

2011-02-18 Terurut Topik Habe


fik jangan nyap nyap melulu,
baru ditanya gitu aja langsung semaput

eh elo mau dateng kondangan di perkawinan gue ngga fik? di Bandung?
masih ada sisa uang pensiun ngga untuk jalan jalan ke indo?
kalau ngga ada, gue mau deh kasih zakat infak supaya jusfiq bisa beli tiket 
pesawat

dateng ya fik?

tahun depan gue kayaknya gue bakalan punya anak nih

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 Hasan Basri bangsat tukang tipu dan bajingan tukang kibul yagn busuk, nista 
 lagi menjijikka sekarang juga sudah jadi gila seperti juga ayub yahya dan 
 orang Islam seperti Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost, PAREWA
 PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang dll.
 
 Kasihan..
 
 
 
 
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