Re: OT: Talking Multimeter

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi there
Yes, the multimeter is used to measure voltage, current, resistance etc.

Nickus

> On 20 Mar 2018, at 23:53, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> Nickus,
>  
> Forgive my ignorance.  What is the multimeter used for?  Measuring voltages 
> and currents in electric circuits etc.?
>  
> Thanks
>  
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Nickus de Vos
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 3:11 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: OT: Talking Multimeter
>  
> Hi all
> I’ll happily share with the list, I just didn’t think there will be a lot of 
> interest, so didn’t want to bug the list with long discussions etc.
>  
> I’m not even sure of the companies name, as said they are in Russia.
> The guys name is Maxim Pavlov you can email him for all info ma...@sinor.ru 
> <mailto:ma...@sinor.ru>
>  
> The price is $80 there is a version with and without temperature measurement, 
> both cost the same.
> I paid $50 for courier shipping and it took 11 days to reach me, I paid them 
> via Paypal.
>  
> As I understand, this is actually a normal mainstream multimeter which they 
> then program to output synthesised speech via the RS232 communication port.
> It has a rechargeable battery and charges via USB cable which is included 
> with the product.
>  
> You will have a option of voices, he will send you sample files, out of the 3 
> english voices he sent me, I opted for the female one.
> You will also have the option to have a braille label cut out on the top for 
> all modes, or you can choose that they make a cutout for you with only a 
> couple of dots marking modes which you choose. I went for the braille label 
> cutout since I thought it would be kind of cool, but turns out this doesn’t 
> work too well. The space is very limited so everything is squeezed in quite 
> tight, result is that most of the braille gets cut off. If I could choose 
> again, I’d take the option of only a couple of dots on the top then memorise 
> the modes I need most. This label isn’t fixed though, it’s a thick piece of 
> cardboard so at some point I’ll just make a new one with a couple of dots on 
> the modes which I use most.
>  
> Finally you can also choose to have them put a button on the positive probe 
> for you, when you press this button it will speak the value on screen, I went 
> for this option and it works great rather than the thing talking and talking 
> non stop.
>  
> If you have any questions, I’ll happily answer so ask away.
>  
> Nickus
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Re: OT: Talking Multimeter

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi all
I’ll happily share with the list, I just didn’t think there will be a lot of 
interest, so didn’t want to bug the list with long discussions etc.

I’m not even sure of the companies name, as said they are in Russia.
The guys name is Maxim Pavlov you can email him for all info ma...@sinor.ru 


The price is $80 there is a version with and without temperature measurement, 
both cost the same.
I paid $50 for courier shipping and it took 11 days to reach me, I paid them 
via Paypal.

As I understand, this is actually a normal mainstream multimeter which they 
then program to output synthesised speech via the RS232 communication port.
It has a rechargeable battery and charges via USB cable which is included with 
the product.

You will have a option of voices, he will send you sample files, out of the 3 
english voices he sent me, I opted for the female one.
You will also have the option to have a braille label cut out on the top for 
all modes, or you can choose that they make a cutout for you with only a couple 
of dots marking modes which you choose. I went for the braille label cutout 
since I thought it would be kind of cool, but turns out this doesn’t work too 
well. The space is very limited so everything is squeezed in quite tight, 
result is that most of the braille gets cut off. If I could choose again, I’d 
take the option of only a couple of dots on the top then memorise the modes I 
need most. This label isn’t fixed though, it’s a thick piece of cardboard so at 
some point I’ll just make a new one with a couple of dots on the modes which I 
use most.

Finally you can also choose to have them put a button on the positive probe for 
you, when you press this button it will speak the value on screen, I went for 
this option and it works great rather than the thing talking and talking non 
stop.

If you have any questions, I’ll happily answer so ask away.

Nickus

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OT: Talking Multimeter

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi all
Mods, sorry for the OT, but seeing how I struggled to get this product, I 
thought it best to spread the word as wide as possible, there might be other 
blind and visually disabled people interested in this product as well.

After searching far and wide, basically all across the world, I came across a 
manufacturer who makes talking multimeters. In my search I came across this 
guys post of quite a few years ago on some electronics forum. It is a company 
in Russia who manufactures a talking multimeter.

>From what I could find, previously one or two other companies also made 
>talking multimeters, but they either went out of business or discontinued the 
>product long ago.

I ordered this multimeter 2 or so weeks ago and it arrived today, it was $130 
including shipping to South Africa.

It’s pretty neat, they customise it according to your needs, you can choose the 
voice, choose whether you want braille markings or just dots on top and you can 
also choose to get a positive probe with a button which you push for it to talk.

If you are interested, email me off list and I can give you the companies 
contact details.

Nickus

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Re: Analog compressor

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi
Pretty much all analog compressors will be blind friendly, this really depends 
on your budget.
Personally I am a big fan of the DBX analogue compressors, more specifically 
the DBX 160 series, wish I had the money for one. A while back I worked in a 
facility who had a very nice UAD analogue compressor, I can’t remember the 
model at all.

Best would be to decide on a budget and then read up on models which falls 
within your budget, personally I find Sound on Sound magazine reviews a great 
source of information when it comes through equipment.

Nickus
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> On 13 Mar 2018, at 23:06, Andre Woods  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have any  recommendations for a good stereo compressor that is 
> blind friendly? 
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Re: Thunderbolt Ports

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Just google Macbook Pro late 2016 specifications. Think it’s everymac.com 
 which will even allow you to enter your serial number 
and give you the spec for your exact machine.

> On 11 Jan 2018, at 20:42, Andre Jarreau  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone.  Does anyone know how to determine if TB ports on a Mac Book Pro 
> are TB2 or TB3?  Called Apple twice and one tech said it was TB2 then another 
> tech said TB3.
>  
> I have a Mac Book Pro 15, late 2016.  Any help appreciated.
> Thanks
> Andre
> 
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Re: avid's certified ProTools course

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This makes me think of having to explain something in Pro-Tools to a sighted 
friend a couple of months ago. He is new to PT, basically tried it out for the 
first time for a small editing job.

He asked me how to do something, I think selecting a certain section or clip, 
of course I couldn’t really answer, especially when he asked me how the 
selection tool looks. I found it easier to turn on his Voiceover and just did 
the editing for him in like 10 minuts. Afterwards I told him to RTFM and 
Youtube, he is coming along quite nicely in PT now.

Good luck with this, as said last I explored the certification was around 8 
years ago and since it wasn’t accessible and the guys doing the certification 
here in South Africa wasn’t really willing to help, I basically gave it up. 

> On 07 Jan 2018, at 16:20, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Roy,
> I'm not sure exactly how you went through the course material but I would 
> imagine your instructor would have had to address the issue of accessibility 
> at some point and the fact that the final exam includes questions that are 
> purely graphical in nature. For example, one of the questions might be a 
> picture of something that looks like a quarter inch jack with a hex nut 
> around it, like a typical insert jack. As a blind user, you wouldn't 
> necessarily know that the insert icon looks like it's hardware counterpart 
> and it would be pointless to identify something that has a descriptive tag 
> unless the tag describes it as resembling a quarter inch jack with hex nut. 
> For a blind user, of course, it's not essential to know this because the 
> graphical aspect is fairly irrelevant although, when working alongside 
> sighted users, it's sometimes helpful to know what the graphical elements are 
> and what color certain triangles and other items are. All that said, there 
> are ways to demonstrate one's knowledge of the material in an alternative way 
> but that needs to be addressed directly with your instructor. Chi Kim went 
> through the first Pro Tools certification course through berklee and had to 
> have some of the questions provided in an alternative format. I'd certainly 
> recommend taking it up with the administrators of the test to see if they can 
> accommodate your situation. Let us know how it turns out.
> Slau
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Re: avid's certified ProTools course

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Last time I checked, but this was like eight years ago, the exam for 101 etc. 
was not accessible since all questions were based around pictures and graphics 
of the user interface.

Nickus
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> On 07 Jan 2018, at 03:41, Roy  wrote:
> 
> hi friends
> I took Avid’s certified ProTools course , and within 2 weeks , am about to 
> make the final graduation exam.
> is the exam accessible? any other things to consider beforehand?
> thanks a bunch for any help
> Roy.
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Re: What external hard drives are being used?

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi
Personally I’ve always been a Seagate guy, there drives have never let me down 
over the years. Nothing wrong with Western Digital, I simply never tried them 
before.I mostly have usb 3 drives, though I even have One or two  old usb 2 
ones lying around. 
I’ve been playing with the idea the past couple of months to get  a NAS Device 
for external storage and getting rid of all the loose external hard drives, but 
I haven’t bought one yet.

Nickus
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> On 19 Nov 2017, at 21:38, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Nate,
> I've had great experiences with both Western Digital and seagate drives. In 
> every case, they were either seventy-two hundred or ten thousand rpm drives 
> for the HDD models. I've used the same brands for the SSD drives for sample 
> libraries but not for recording. I've never used them via USB, although these 
> days, USB 3 is plenty fast. Thus far, I've used 1 terabyte drives but now 
> looking into eight or ten terabyte models for HDD. As always, SSDs are crazy 
> expensive when getting into those capacities. If this is for recording, 7200 
> rpm HDDs are plenty fast and you can pick them up for around seventy dollars.
> Slau
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 1:56 PM, Nathaniel Kile  wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry, a little off topic, but I respect the opinions of people on this list 
>> more than some of the more popular lists.
>> Looking to get an external hard drive for my new setup, I will need to go 
>> USB, and I have found that others are having success with this. What are 
>> your thoughts on USB and external drive brands around here on the list?
>> Thanks, Regards, 
>>  
>> Nate Kile,
>> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
>> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
>> instruction for schools
>> Also Private training to your needs
>> 907-444-3707
>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
>> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
>> www.yourtechvision.com
>>  
>>  
>>  
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OT NAS software accessibility

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi all
Sorry for the OT, thought this a good place to ask since audio pro’s usually 
have a lot of hard drive storage.

I’m looking in to getting a NAS storage device to replace all my external hard 
drives. I’m looking at the Drobo and Synology products.

Does anyone have experience with one of these and especially the accessibility 
of its software on the Mac?

Thanks

Nickus

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Re: question about new audio interface for travelling purposes and good microphone suggestions

[Nickus de Vos]

How extensive is the Focusrite iOS app? Is it very basic or does it offer 
enough parameters to get by with only using the app and not bothering with the 
control software?

Nickus
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> On 14 Sep 2017, at 11:58, Phil Muir  wrote:
> 
> I think they will.  Especially if you explain why you are doing this and how
> many visually impaired end users could benefit.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of TheOreoMonster
> Sent: 14 September 2017 09:34
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: question about new audio interface for travelling purposes and
> good microphone suggestions
> 
> Yes I have had Focusrite support remote in and set up  Focusrite Control,
> and pair the iOS app. Also saved presets for different scenarios I was
> likely to use before the iOS app was available. All that is great but there
> have been times I wanted to change or set up an interface for the first time
> outside of support hours . Would be curious to see if they would stay on the
> call long enough to do an extensive keyboard maestro set.  That being said
> It would be nice if more interface went the route of the Behringer UMC or
> the AudioFuse. All single knob/button per  control on the hardware and all
> the routing can be done from your DAW. The AudioFuse Latency is supposed to
> be down to 3ms, so I suppose its as good as USB is gonna get, and should be
> low enough to track through plug ins without issues. 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2017, at 3:56 AM, Phil Muir 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Well if you had the Focusrite hardware you could then call technical
>> support.  They are quite happy to remote into your machine with Team
> viewer
>> and no doubt would help create an accessible solution for their software
>> with Keyboard Maestro.  Had them take a look on machines here and they are
>> always happy to help.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf
>> Of TheOreoMonster
>> Sent: 14 September 2017 04:14
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: question about new audio interface for traveling purposes and
>> good microphone suggestions
>> 
>> The second gen scarlet and the Clarett are using the same control
> software.
>> The difficulty  with Keyboard Maestro may be if it shows a different
>> interface for each device type. Any idea if the Element Mac software is
>> accessible or will we have to rely on the iOS software? 
>>> On Sep 13, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apogee Element is a bit more expensive but 8 I/O and the iOS app is
>> accessible. regarding the focusrite panel, I can probably make it pretty
>> accessible through Keyboard Maestro. Curious if the Scarlet and Claret
>> panels are the same. My brother just got one of those and I can probably
>> grab it for testing purposes for the software.
>>> 
>>> Slau
>>> 
 On Sep 13, 2017, at 6:12 PM, Steve Martin 
>> wrote:
 
 Portable and 8 combi inputs? Not sure that exist as anything with that
>> many inputs usually ends up being atleast 1 rack space, or a larger
> desktop
>> format. THe Focusrite Clarett 4 pre has 8 inputs but only 4 are mic/line.
>> The other 4 are just line inputs. Also it relies on the Focusrite control
>> software for switching between line and instrument level on the first two
>> inputs, Switching between the standard mic pres or the ones designed after
>> their ISA preamps, and switching on the High Pass Filter. In my experience
>> the iOS app was accessible with the 8prex so i assume the 4pre would work
>> with it accessibly as well. The Mac app is not accessible last i looked.
>> Regarding the mic, BLUE looks to be doing a buy one get one free on the
>> Hummingbird till end of december. Not sure if they have switchable polar
>> patterns but they seem well reviewed so may be worth a look especially
>> considering the price for two during the promotion. 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On Sep 13, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Nick Gawronski 
>> wrote:
> 
> Hi, I have been waiting until I really want to do some work before
>> buying a new interface as my Digi 003 is rather large and it probably
> won't
>> be supported much longer so I want to get something before that happenss.
> I
>> would like around 8 inputs that are preferabley the combo jacks that can
>> take both XLR and quarter inch connections.  I am not set on a brand as
> long
>> as I can effectively use it with Pro Tools 12 or higher.  I would like
>> something that is easy to configure and can be taken places when I travel.
>> For my microphone suggestion I would like a microphone that is able to
>> switch between picking up everything in a room and just around the front
> of
>> it or is it better to buy two different 

Re: external num pad

[Nickus de Vos]

Agree with Slau, just the other day I tried a friends external number pad, and 
the modifiers didn't work. I also thought this would be a quick and easy 
solution for when using PT on my MacBook, but unfortunately the only option is 
a full-size USB keyboard. 

Nickus
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> On 02 Sep 2017, at 20:17, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Vaughn,
> Rather than adding a num pad, I'd recommend an extended keyboard with the 
> integrated num pad. If you use two separate devices, while pressing a 
> modifier on one and a different key on the other, the modified command will 
> not be recognized. There was a time when I thought the split modifier worked 
> but it apparently does not.
> HTH
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2017, at 1:53 PM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I am looking for reccomendations on an external num pad for use with
>> Protools. It'll make using PT easier.
>> 
>> Thank you for your suggestions!
>> 
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>> 360-904-8432
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Re: Again please, I Need just a starting push in pro tools

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>>> Subject: Re: Again please, i Need just a starting push in pro tools
>>> 
>>> Ramy,
>>> May I ask an important question?
>>> What do you feel you must do in pro tools, that you cannot presently 
>>> do in Sonar?
>>> Why is this technology change critical for you?
>>> Because, there in will lie all the incentive you require to get 
>>> moving, if it exists.
>>> Does this make sense?
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin 
>>> or his background or his religion ... People must learn to hate, and 
>>> if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love... For love 
>>> comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite." Nelson
>> Mandela.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2017, Nickus de Vos wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I agree, the only way you will really learn to use Pro-tools is if 
>>>> you
>>> force yourself to use it, by basically letting go of Sonar. I of 
>>> course assume you want to eventually move over to ProTools permanently.
>>>> With this being said it will be harder to do in the working 
>>>> environment
>>> where you have to get things done every day, where you can't really 
>>> afford mistakes or down time.
>>>> 
>>>> Years ago I had the same when getting my first Mac, I was never 
>>>> really
>>> going to learn to use Voiceover if I kept going back to windows and 
>>> jaws. I started to force by self to use the Mac more and more on a 
>>> daily basis, to perform more tasks on it every day.
>>>> 
>>>> Nickus
>>>> Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any typos...
>>>> 
>>>>> On 31 Aug 2017, at 07:36, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> stop using Sonar and you will have to move forward.
>>>>> 
>>>>> At 10:26 PM 8/30/2017, you wrote:
>>>>>> Hi John:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I got them and I finish studying them, but really am so afraid of 
>>>>>> using the Protools in my delly work, so, all I need is a push, just 
>>>>>> a push
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/30/17, John Covici <cov...@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> How about the protools with speech set of audio tutorials?  A bit 
>>>>>>> old, but still quite useful.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 15:03:04 -0400, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello all:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sorry if I am repost my last email, but, I tried to set with one 
>>>>>>>> of my sited friends here, to put my hands on protools, but he 
>>>>>>>> fail making me do so, because he is  usng mouse in most of the time.
>>>>>>>> so,  Again, I repeat my request, I need someone, to give me just 
>>>>>>>> starting push, moving between regents using tab, editing noise in 
>>>>>>>> track etc, the difference between Sonar and pro tools makes me 
>>>>>>>> feel that am a stranger when using it. so, can anyone give me 1 
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> 2 hours from his or her time, specially if he was using sonar 
>>>>>>>> before?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Frankly I can pay but not so much because $ here is so expensive 
>>>>>>>> in Egypt. so all I can pay is just 20$ or less if requested.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your support
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>> Music instructor @:
>>>>>>>> Faculty ofmusical education
>>>>>>>> Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
>>>>>>>> Harmony Recording Studio
>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg
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Re: Again please, i Need just a starting push in pro tools

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I agree, the only way you will really learn to use Pro-tools is if you force 
yourself to use it, by basically letting go of Sonar. I of course assume you 
want to eventually move over to ProTools permanently. 
With this being said it will be harder to do in the working environment where 
you have to get things done every day, where you can't really afford mistakes 
or down time. 

Years ago I had the same when getting my first Mac, I was never really going to 
learn to use Voiceover if I kept going back to windows and jaws. I started to 
force by self to use the Mac more and more on a daily basis, to perform more 
tasks on it every day.  

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> On 31 Aug 2017, at 07:36, Chris Smart  wrote:
> 
> stop using Sonar and you will have to move forward.
> 
> At 10:26 PM 8/30/2017, you wrote:
>> Hi John:
>> 
>> I got them and I finish studying them, but really am so afraid of
>> using the Protools in my delly work,
>> so, all I need is a push, just a push
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/30/17, John Covici  wrote:
>> > How about the protools with speech set of audio tutorials?  A bit old,
>> > but still quite useful.
>> >
>> > On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 15:03:04 -0400,
>> > Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello all:
>> >>
>> >> Sorry if I am repost my last email, but, I tried to set with one of my
>> >> sited friends here, to put my hands on protools, but he fail making me
>> >> do so, because he is  usng mouse in most of the time.
>> >> so,  Again, I repeat my request, I need someone, to give me just
>> >> starting push, moving between regents using tab, editing noise in
>> >> track etc,
>> >> the difference between Sonar and pro tools makes me feel that am a
>> >> stranger when using it. so, can anyone give me 1 or 2 hours from his
>> >> or her time, specially if he was using sonar before?
>> >>
>> >> Frankly I can pay but not so much because $ here is so expensive in
>> >> Egypt. so all I can pay is just 20$ or less if requested.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your support
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
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>> >> Music instructor @:
>> >> Faculty ofmusical education
>> >> Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
>> >> Harmony Recording Studio
>> >> https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg
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Re: Thunderbolt or Firewire

[Nickus de Vos]

Chuck, you say UAD plugs are now accessible in 12.8? I always wanted to enter 
the UAD eco system but accessibility held me back. 

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> On 25 Aug 2017, at 17:17, Phil Muir <i...@accessibilitytraining.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Or as you are not requiring a lot of inputs you could even go USB if required.
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Nickus de Vos
> Sent: 25 August 2017 15:08
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Thunderbolt or Firewire
>  
> Hi in my opinion FireWire is pretty much dead, yes you still get the 
> converters to connect FireWire devices to newer Mac's, but buying a new 
> FireWire device at this stage when you can go for thunderbolt directly, won't 
> be such a smart move.
> Thunderbolt is much newer technology with much faster throughput and it will 
> be supported for some time to come, where some manufacturers already started 
> discontinuing support for FireWire.
>  
> As for your issue of only having one thunderbolt port, most fundable devices 
> monitors, drives, and audio interfaces,  have more than one port on them 
> which allows you to daisy chain devices.  Look for a interface with 2 
> Thunderbolt ports, run out off your computer into the interface, and out of 
> the Interface into your monitor. 
>  
> Look at the Focusrite Clarett interfaces, just keep in mind from what I 
> understand there Control software isn't accessible on the Mac. 
>  
>  
> 
> Nickus
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> 
> 
>> On 25 Aug 2017, at 15:37, Phil Muir <i...@accessibilitytraining.co.uk> wrote:
>> Doesn't matter really because firewire is still a good choice.  Also you are
>> still future proofed because as long as there's thunderbolt then chances are
>> you can get a firewire to thunderbolt converter and still use the firewire
>> device.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Peter Bosher
>> Sent: 25 August 2017 14:29
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Thunderbolt or Firewire
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> 
>> I need to choose a new audio interface, and looking around suggests that 
>> Thunderbolt may be better than FireWire.   I only have one Thunderbolt 
>> port which is used by the monitor, so what would be the best way of 
>> connecting an interface?
>> 
>> 
>> Secondary question, do you have a recommendation for an interface with 
>> at least 4 (but not more than 8) independent inputs and MIDI in, from 
>> the likes of Focusrite or Mackie, whether TB or FW?
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
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Re: Accessible loudness meter plug-ins for mastering

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Hi Juan
Please elaborate on using them without difficulties. How much info and details 
can you see, what ports are accessible and what parts not? I'll  go check if 
they offer a demo Version.

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> On 25 Aug 2017, at 15:53, Juan Pablo Culasso Alonso  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello. In izotope rX, there is the izotope loudness control. There you have 
> the pressets that matches all the differents type of loudness. I used them 
> without dificulties.
>> On 25 Aug 2017, at 10:34, Phil Muir  wrote:
>> 
>> Tools Alt T followed by the letter S for statistics.  You can then tab over
>> and copy the data to notepad and it will most likely look something like
>> this:
>> 
>>Left Channel
>> Right Channel   
>> Cursor position (Time)   00:00:00.000
>> 00:00:00.000
>> Sample value at cursor (dB)  -92.029
>> -90.585 
>> Minimum sample position (Time)   00:00:55.606
>> 00:01:08.721
>> Minimum sample value (dB)-1.021
>> -1.021  
>> Maximum sample position (Time)   00:00:56.092
>> 00:00:12.405
>> Maximum sample value (dB)-1.022
>> -1.022  
>> RMS level (dB)   -15.548
>> -15.556 
>> Average value (dB)   -Inf.
>> -Inf.   
>> Zero crossings (Hz)  1,703.44
>> 1,585.26
>> Maximum true peak sample position (Time) 00:02:21.047
>> 00:02:18.652
>> Maximum true peak sample value (dB)  -0.989
>> -0.993  
>> Maximum filtered true peak sample position (Time)00:00:16.736
>> 00:00:20.089
>> Maximum filtered true peak sample value (dB) -0.000
>> -0.186  
>> 
>> Integrated Loudness (LUFS)-12.24
>> Loudness Range (LU) 3.80
>> Maximum True Peak Loudness (dBTP)-0.99
>> Maximum Short-Term Loudness (LUFS)-10.13
>> Maximum Momentary Loudness (LUFS)-8.48
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Peter Bosher
>> Sent: 25 August 2017 14:22
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Accessible loudness meter plug-ins for mastering
>> 
>> Hi Phil,
>> 
>> 
>> You wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Can also easily check LUFS in Sound Forge 11
>> 
>> How do you do that please?
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Peter
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Re: Thunderbolt or Firewire

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Hi in my opinion FireWire is pretty much dead, yes you still get the converters 
to connect FireWire devices to newer Mac's, but buying a new FireWire device at 
this stage when you can go for thunderbolt directly, won't be such a smart move.
Thunderbolt is much newer technology with much faster throughput and it will be 
supported for some time to come, where some manufacturers already started 
discontinuing support for FireWire.

As for your issue of only having one thunderbolt port, most fundable devices 
monitors, drives, and audio interfaces,  have more than one port on them which 
allows you to daisy chain devices.  Look for a interface with 2 Thunderbolt 
ports, run out off your computer into the interface, and out of the Interface 
into your monitor. 

Look at the Focusrite Clarett interfaces, just keep in mind from what I 
understand there Control software isn't accessible on the Mac. 



Nickus
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> On 25 Aug 2017, at 15:37, Phil Muir  wrote:
> 
> Doesn't matter really because firewire is still a good choice.  Also you are
> still future proofed because as long as there's thunderbolt then chances are
> you can get a firewire to thunderbolt converter and still use the firewire
> device.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Peter Bosher
> Sent: 25 August 2017 14:29
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Thunderbolt or Firewire
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> 
> I need to choose a new audio interface, and looking around suggests that 
> Thunderbolt may be better than FireWire.   I only have one Thunderbolt 
> port which is used by the monitor, so what would be the best way of 
> connecting an interface?
> 
> 
> Secondary question, do you have a recommendation for an interface with 
> at least 4 (but not more than 8) independent inputs and MIDI in, from 
> the likes of Focusrite or Mackie, whether TB or FW?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Peter
> 
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Accessible loudness meter plug-ins for mastering

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi all
Are their anyone who found a usable loudness meter plug-in enabling you to 
master to specific loudness standards? From time to time I must master some 
things for TV or radio and I’m finding this harder and harder to do with the 
enforcement of loudness standards getting more strict.

All these type plug-ins like Izotope Loudness Controll are purely visual, 
making them impossible to use for a blind person. Anyone came across a semi 
accessible plug-in or have some clever work around? I’m sure there are some of 
you on this list who came across this problem before, I know there’s someone on 
here who does a lot of mastering, I can’t remember the name now.

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Re: Anone tried the Presonus Faderport 8?

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Kevin, can you map plug-in Controls on its buttons and faders and does it at 
least refresh smoothly between A plug-in and say your mix window? How much 
faster have it made your workflow, do you spend less time on your keyboard and 
more on the surface, or is it only handy for pushing faders? 

Nickus
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> On 12 Aug 2017, at 21:38, Kevin Reeves <reeves...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have one. It's a fantastic device. My only issue I have is that sometimes 
> when you move between sessions it doesn't reset the faders. This might be an 
> early firmware issue. I keep meaning to call tech-support and bring this to 
> their attention, but haven't done so yet. Other than that, it is an 
> absolutely fantastic device and I love it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 12, 2017, at 8:42 AM, Nickus de Vos <bigboy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all
>> Have anyone tried the Presonus Faderport 8 control surface? I would like to 
>> hear your thoughts on it of course from a VO users perspective.
>> 
>> I read reviews on it and watched videos, I also had around 5 minuts with it 
>> the other day at a expo, but couldn’t actually try it out. A big positive 
>> for us I guess is that it has no touch screens or pads so we’re not missing 
>> out on anything in terms of that. Another big positive for me is how usable 
>> it’s in PT even though it’s primarily not a device designed for use with PT. 
>> Then there’s of course also the price, $500 for a 8 motorized fader control 
>> surface is very decent.
>> 
>> Your thoughts?
>> 
>> Nickus
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Anone tried the Presonus Faderport 8?

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi all
Have anyone tried the Presonus Faderport 8 control surface? I would like to 
hear your thoughts on it of course from a VO users perspective.

I read reviews on it and watched videos, I also had around 5 minuts with it the 
other day at a expo, but couldn’t actually try it out. A big positive for us I 
guess is that it has no touch screens or pads so we’re not missing out on 
anything in terms of that. Another big positive for me is how usable it’s in PT 
even though it’s primarily not a device designed for use with PT. Then there’s 
of course also the price, $500 for a 8 motorized fader control surface is very 
decent.

Your thoughts?

Nickus

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Focusrite Clarett software

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi
I’m in the market for a new small and portable interface. I looked at 
Focusrite’s Scarlett range right away since I’ve always liked Focusrite and I 
had only good service from my Focusrite interfaces before. But then I saw the 
Clarett interfaces are not at all badly priced.

Now the magic question, have anyone tried the control software and is it 
accessible? From the looks of it there are certain things which can only be 
adjusted in the control software. Also what about the iOS app, anyone tried 
that?

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Anyone tried ADX Trax, is it accessible?

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi all
Have anyone tried using ADX Trax or the pro version to isolate a tracks vocals? 
I have a client who wants me to isolate vocals on a couple of his own tracks, 
he recorded them a few years ago and lost the multitrack files.
Anyway ADX Trax seams to be the way to go, is it accessible?

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Re: New MacbookPro with touch pad and Protools

[Nickus de Vos]

Personally I have the previous generation MBP with physical function keys, but 
if i use PT for anything serious on my laptop, are any way plug in a external 
keyboard so that I have a numpad. I guess it comes down to personal choice and 
whether you will be able to get used to the touch bar, I guess it's just One of 
those things, like you having to get used to a iPhone or iPads touch screen. If 
it was me I'd jump in and go for the 2017 MBP. 

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> On 21 Jul 2017, at 19:07, Alex Coleman  wrote:
> 
> Is it advisable to get the latest MacBook Pro with the touch pad
> technology for use with Protools and Voiceover, or should I opt for
> the older model without the touch pad?
> I was told, by a Sweet Water rep, that I did not want the newest MBP
> model, but he didn't really say why. He was also not very knowledgable
> at all about accessibility issues.
> I need to make a purchase in the next few days, and any feedback would
> be appreciated.
> Also, is there a high-quality audio interface besides the Apollo 8
> that is accessible using voiceover, or would the experts here
> recommend the Apollo?
> Thanks for any info you can provide.
> Take care.
> 
> Alex
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Re: VoiceOver Accessible soundcard for ProTolls and Logic

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Hi all
It's a pitty about the Focusrite software as Focusrite has been my go
to brand interfaces since I can remember, I just love the quality of
their pre amps, and I have been looking forward to getting one of
their Red interfaces in the next couple of months.

I'm the type of guy who won't buy something if I'm not certain that
it's fully or close to fully accessible, or the important bits anyway.
I don't want to struggle with ifs and maybes, trying to figure out how
to get around accessibility issues etc.

It would have helped a lot if the ability was there to download and
check out the full software without having a interface connected, but
unfortunately most of the software only shows its true colours if the
interface is connected.

On 10/8/16, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> Wow, that is truly surprising to me because it’s most likely cross-platform
> software and, for it to be accessible, either they developed the Mac
> software completely separately or really did things by the book when
> compiling. that’s really news to me and, of course, good news for others who
> wish to consider roland interfaces. Thanks for that.
> Cheers,
> slau
>
>> On Oct 8, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Juan Pablo Culasso 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I use the roland quadcapture and the panel is very accessible.
>> One of the controls that is a nice thing, is the gain setting of each
>> preamp.
>> So you can select exactely the input volume of the soundcard, moving de
>> knov and reading that parameter in the control panel.
>> Hope this helps.
>> jp
>>
>> Visita mi web
>> www.jpculasso.net 
>>
>> El 8 oct 2016, a las 17:10, Slau Halatyn > > escribió:
>>
>>> Hi Samuel,
>>>
>>> No, I haven’t had any experience with any Roland interfaces. As with many
>>> interfaces, they can generally work fine with a “set it and forget it”
>>> kind of situation but, if you need to change parameters in some cases,
>>> it’s not accessible. If Roland has a software control panel, chances are
>>> it’s not accessible. I’d be quite surprised if it was. There is some
>>> potential if an interface has an iOS version of their control panel but I
>>> can’t think of any that do.
>>> Slau
>>>
 On Oct 8, 2016, at 4:14 AM, Samuel Wilkins > wrote:

 Hello Slau,
 I have heard that the Roland Studio Capture will work with ProTools, and
 if you have 2, you could do 32 channels.  Have you tried that one?

 On 07/10/2016 19:30, Slau Halatyn wrote:
> Hi Jack,
> I can’t answer that yet but, suffice it to say, we’re in the process of
> procuring both of those interfaces to make an assessment on the
> accessibility. The software for the MTRX appears, at the outset, to
> look promising but I’ll have to have an interface in order to see
> whether all of the controls are visible. I have no idea about the
> Element software yet but will report here as soon as I know anything.
> Best,
> Slau
>
>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Jack Ronnayut > > wrote:
>>
>> Hi Slau and all!
>> I am looking for a new interface as well. What might be  more
>> Accessible between Apogee Element that you mentioned and Avid MTRX? I
>> also plan to record drums in my studio.
>> Thank you so much. Any answer would be appreciated.
>> Jack
>>
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>>
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com ]
>> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:54 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: VoiceOver Accessible soundcard for ProTolls and Logic
>>
>> Hi Jørgen,
>> Depending upon what kind of I/O scenario you’re looking for, Apogee
>> just released three new interfaces yesterday that are more affordable
>> than their previous offerings. They are the Element series interfaces
>> and are all Thunderbolt compatible. Thus far, all Apogee interfaces
>> have used an application called Maestro to access the interface
>> settings. The software is almost entirely accessible and it’s also
>> possible to set a number of parameters from the units themselves.
>> Unless these new interfaces have somehow deviated from Apogee’s path
>> all 

Re: What is better with Pro Tools 12.5, EL Capitan or Sierra

[Nickus de Vos]

PT 12.6 is not officially supported in Sierra yet. In my opinion el capitan is 
bad in terms of vo performence though. If you can, wait a month or so for PT 
12.6.1 which will officially be supported in Sierra, then do your fresh install 
of Sierra and getPT 12.6 at the same time. 

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> On 29 Sep 2016, at 14:51, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hello All:
> after I installed my new SSD into my Macmini, I will install a new mac
> os, so, what is better  now with Pro tools 12.5 and Voice over?
> my mac can install sierra with no problem, but  I need to be sure that
> nothing will happened  of accessibility broken after installation.
> Thanks
> 
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Re: Record on USB Hard diskUsing SSd or Sata HD wi

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Hi John
Yes true that SSD drives have no moving parts so nothing to be warn
out over time, but just as with USB flash drives they have a certain
amount of read and write cycles. These cycles are getting more and
more as the technology advances and will probably eventually outlive
other components in a machines life, but for now tasks which reads and
writes a lot will significantly shorten the life span of a SSD.

So yes by all means you can track to SSD, but then you must budget to
replace it more often than what you would have done if you used HDD.

On 9/25/16, John André Lium-Netland  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I thought that recording to a flash based drive involved no mechanical
> parts, and would stay durable almost forever… Must say I’m a bit confused
> about SSD, Fusion, Flash etc. etc. ;)
>
> Best,
> John André
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Re: Record on USB Hard diskUsing SSd or Sata HD wi

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If I remember correctly will go read up on this again, Avid still
recommends recording to hard drives rather than solid state drives, I
remember a extensive PT Expert discussion on this subject and there
the consensus was also to stick to hard drives for tracking.

This has to do with the amount of read/write cycles of SSD vs HDD, not
saying you can't track to SSD, but it will shorten the life of your
solid state drive much faster because of the read/write cycles
involved while tracking.

On 9/25/16, Ricky Prevatte  wrote:
> I can do 24 tracks recording a live session just with a hybrid drive. When I
> get the bucks I will definitely do a solid-state before I would upgrade my
> old laptop. It is a 2011.
>
> Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
>
>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 10:53 AM, Kevin Reeves  wrote:
>>
>> You can buy a Samsung EVO and put it in an external USB enclosure. USB 3
>> is definitely fast enough to record to.
>> Or, you can have your Samsung SSD put into your mac mini by a technician.
>> This is the better way to go because having your OS and apps on an SSD
>> will definitely speed up your machine.
>> With an SSD, you can record to your internal drive. No need for an
>> external.
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Kevin
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Re: cd burning on mac

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If i remember correctly, if burning redbook format cd's, there will always be a 
2 second gap between the first and second track. If not, a standard cd player 
won't be able to read the disk. It's part of the format just like 44.1 16 bit. 

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> On 02 Jul 2016, at 03:32, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys. i know this is off topic. how ever i’m looking for a good cd burning 
> program to burn projects to disc on the mac. I’ve been using toast audio for 
> a while. i bought this from the app store. How ever i am getting 2 second 
> gaps between my tracks. i can’t seem to fix this problem even by setting the 
> default pause to 0 seconds. I am wondering if this happens in the full 
> version of toast. or is there another alternative for burning audio Cds 
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Re: cpu overload messages, drop outs, and other random pro tools issues

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Hi
My first thought was also RAM especially because you say it effects your entire 
system and not only when using PT. Try a RAM swop out and just to eliminate all 
things PT, make sure all your plug ins are up to date and also delete your PT 
preferences. 

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> On 15 Jun 2016, at 22:37, TheOreoMonster  wrote:
> 
> I'd definately say check the RAM, but not with a software test. Swap
> the ram from the o lder macbook int o the newer one and see if the
> issue persit. If it doesn't then you know there is a issue there.
> 
>> On 6/15/16, Alan Macdonald  wrote:
>> Hi Rocco,
>> 
>> I'm running a 2012 Macbook pro with yosemite and pro tools 12.4. I first
>> encountered this problem with the same machine whilst on mavericks and it is
>> indeed the most frustrating and swear inducing problem I've encountered.
>> 
>> Whilst on mavericks, I used to use a Digi 002 when I first saw this. I had
>> that setup working for ages on mountain lion with no issues. I tried all the
>> steps you mentioned from buffer size adjustments and I even borrowed another
>> 002 unit from a friend but with the same result. He tested my 000 unit with
>> his system and again it worked fine so all problems pointed towards my
>> Macbook.
>> 
>> Now, here's the thing... When one of the small security updates appeared, I
>> installed it, did the necessary reset and thought nothing of it. But when I
>> went back into pro tools my setup went from virtually unusable to working
>> like a dream. At this point I should stress that pro tools still worked fine
>> without the Digi connected so I could still work with one hand tied behind
>> my back but after this update my relief was unmatched, especially as I was
>> only a couple of months away from finishing college.
>> 
>> Since moving to yosemite, it was fine at first also until I had to install
>> another security update. And sure enough, this set me back to the dreaded
>> cpu overload and buffering messages. Off the top of my head I think that was
>> late last year or early this year. Like you said, there is no rhyme nor
>> reason and sometimes it works for a bit and others it's a disaster. I've
>> upgraded to a 003 now but it's the same issue.
>> 
>> Now, another software security update appeared in mid may which I installed
>> and did the necessary reset again. I went on holiday right after that and
>> haven't had time to check if it's sorted it out this time or not as I'm not
>> long home but I'll be getting my teeth back into it next week so I'll let
>> you know.
>> 
>> Is there any way you can think back to when these problems first appeared or
>> can you match them to the timeline of the software updates I've to see if
>> the time scale fits what I've said here? Quite simply if I get it to a point
>> when it works flawlessly again then I'm going to ignore said updates.
>> 
>> If anything I've said here has sparked any further ideas or suggestions from
>> anyone then I'm also keen to hear them.
>> 
>> Hope this helps you in some way Rocco,
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Alan,
>> Oban, Scotland
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 15 Jun 2016, at 14:39, Phil Muir 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yup.  Known bad RAM or faulty hardware components to do this kind of
>>> thing
>>> on Mac's.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of mcdiemert
>>> Sent: 15 June 2016 14:04
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: cpu overload messages, drop outs, and other random pro tools
>>> issues
>>> 
>>> To add to this, I'd be curious how you're connecting your interface to
>>> the
>>> MBp?
>>> The only other time I experienced something like what you are
>>> describing, turned out I had a bad piece of Ram in my Mac mini.  Agree
>>> with Slau here, deffinitly sounds hardware related. I believe there is
>>> an apple test you can run pre startup to test all hardware components
>>> its been years since I've run such a test, and I don't believe VO
>>> spoke during the process.
>>> Write me off list, if you can't find how to run the test, and I'll dig
>>> in my documentation and get you some directions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6/15/16, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
 Hi Rocco,
 
 Sorry to hear about your troubles. For what it's worth, your subject
 line
 implies that it's a Pro Tools issue and it certainly does affect Pro
 Tools
 but it clearly sounds like it's a hardware/software issue with the 2014
 machine and El Capitan. You seem to have followed all of the right steps
>>> to
 isolate and treat the problem. The only thing that I could think of at
>>> this
 point is to roll back to Yosemite. that's the only thing that I can
 think
>>> of
 that might bypass any hardware and software conflicts. Please keep us
>>> posted
 on how things develop.
 
 Best,
 Slau
 

Re: Template

[Nickus de Vos]

Shot Slau, i was about to point out that simply coppying the session file will 
still result in the audio being saved in the original location. 

This is something which everybody runs in to at some point, and a sure way to 
nicely mess up your perfectly organized project folders. 

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> On 20 Apr 2016, at 15:15, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> I just want to point out something about copying a session file into a new 
> folder. Just so there's no misunderstanding, simply copying a session file 
> into a new folder will result in that session file saving the recorded files 
> to the Audio Files folder that resides in the original folder from whence the 
> original session file came. The way to go about copying a session file for a 
> new project is to open the original file and use "Save Copy In…" under the 
> file menu. One can choose to not copy the audio files from the original 
> session. This results in essentially a blank session copy. Opening the new 
> session file and recording will put the new audio files in the Audio Files 
> folder for the newly saved session. Using "Save Copy In" is kind of the long 
> way around using a template with the added flexibility of being able to 
> create the newly saved copy to include only selected tracks rather than all 
> tracks as one would have with a session created from a template. As always, 
> there's more than one way to achieve the desired result.
> Slau
> 
>> On Apr 20, 2016, at 6:29 AM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Ricky. i’m not sure if this helps at all. How ever, do you need a 
>> template. I don’t really use them.  All I do is create a session, set it up 
>> the way I want, then call it some generic name like band platform, or 
>> something like that. If I want to re use it for a number of songs or 
>> projects, i can always go back to that session file. and start from there. 
>> I often grabb the session file, and create a new folder, copy  in my session 
>> file,   and start a new project that way.
>> 
>> As far as importing tracks there is import session data. I use this all the 
>> time. How ever you very well may be aware of all this and i may be right off 
>> track, and be misisunderstanging your question.
>> Steve
>> 
>>> On 20 Apr 2016, at 12:18 am, Ricky Prevatte  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ThanksSlau I did that.  My problem is now how to emport the tracks in to 
>>> the template.  Because I could not get this done made me dought my 
>>> templatecreating  ability. Do you know how to do track import? I know how 
>>> to import a track I just do not know how to make it lined up with the 
>>> template. Who could I contact to get this done? Does anyone know?
>>> 
>>> Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
>>> 
 On Apr 19, 2016, at 9:57 AM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
 
 I don't use templates in general but, for starters, what you want to do is 
 create a session file rather than a template first. Set up the file the 
 way you want and then save it as a template. If you want to alter the 
 template in the future, open a session with that template, a new session 
 is created, alter the file and save it as a template again. If you name it 
 the same as the original template, it'll overwrite the old template. I'm 
 pretty sure that should work for you.
 HTH,
 Slau
 
> On Apr 19, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Ricky Prevatte  
> wrote:
> 
> So I am having trouble creating a template and importing tracks into that 
> template for another project. My business is picking up for recording. I 
> will record three bands live Saturday. They are all Four piece bands 
> wanted to use a template for the bands that I Record Saturday I created 
> for another band.  I watched a video I could not tell if the  guy was 
> importing one track at the time I am not sure my template that I created 
> is proper. I hope someone can lend some insight.
> 
> Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
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Re: DO i have a free update to Protools 12 or not?

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Hi
As I have it according to the store on the Avid website, it will cost you $299 
to get back on a upgrade and support plan, so then you have all the latest 
upgrades for the next year.
However once you are on a upgrade plan, it will only cost you $99 to renew for 
another year and another $99 if you want to also renew support for another year.
And just to clarify I’m talking US dollars here.

Best would be to contact your local Pro-Tools dealer, they would be able to 
give you all your options.

Nickus
> On 01 Apr 2016, at 3:47 PM, Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thansk so much, i don't have  an upgrade plan, so i called teh Avid
> support in egypt and they told me that it will cost me $250.
> but each update after this year will cost me the same.
> do i have any cheaper solution?
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/30/16, Nickus de Vos <bigboy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hy
>> Did you go check on your Avid account, whether you have a active upgrade
>> plan?
>> Checking your Avid account will be the quickest and easiest way to see what
>> you have and what you can or can not do.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 30 Mar 2016, at 16:58, Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Very very lettle sir
>>> 
>>> Ramy moustafa saber
>>> Musicc instructor at:
>>> faculty of musical education
>>> music arranger and sound engineer
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 30, 2016, at 4:02 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Ramy, did you ever start using your Pro Tools?
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 2:36 AM
>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: DO i have a free update to Protools 12 or not?
>>>> 
>>>> ok, i have v11. but don't i have a 1 free upgrade? thsi si the 1st
>>>> version that i bought? and, what is the penifit of using   the new
>>>> licence manager?
>>>> thanks
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/29/16, Nickus de Vos <bigboy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> You don't say what version you are currently on, but best will be to
>>>>> go to www.avid.com log in to your master account, go to my products
>>>>> and see what versions you can download. It will also tell you whether
>>>>> you are currently on a upgrade plan.
>>>>> If not on a upgrade plan, it will cost you $299 to get back on, which
>>>>> will allow you to upgrade to the latest version of 12.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 29 Mar 2016, at 20:20, Vaughn Brown <jazzdress...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Rainy,
>>>>>> Have you tried calling customer support? They are pretty good about
>>>>>> helping.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Vaughn
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 3/29/16, Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello all:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Now I downloadd the latest version for the lisince manager for mac,
>>>>>>> and i try to sign in through it to know if i can get pro tools 12 as
>>>>>>> a free update or not, i could not find anything, just i can find
>>>>>>> activate, deactivate. and i can not  click on anyone of them.
>>>>>>> i open safari and i went to the ilok.com and i sign in, but can not
>>>>>>> find a place to download my staff.
>>>>>>> can you please tell me what to do?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> Music instructor @:
>>>>>>> Faculty ofmusical education
>>>>>>> Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
>>>>>>> Harmony Recording Studio
>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg
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Re: DO i have a free update to Protools 12 or not?

[Nickus de Vos]

Hy 
Did you go check on your Avid account, whether you have a active upgrade plan?
Checking your Avid account will be the quickest and easiest way to see what you 
have and what you can or can not do. 



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> On 30 Mar 2016, at 16:58, Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Very very lettle sir
> 
> Ramy moustafa saber
> Musicc instructor at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2016, at 4:02 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Ramy, did you ever start using your Pro Tools?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Ramy Moustafa
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 2:36 AM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: DO i have a free update to Protools 12 or not?
>> 
>> ok, i have v11. but don't i have a 1 free upgrade? thsi si the 1st
>> version that i bought? and, what is the penifit of using   the new
>> licence manager?
>> thanks
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/29/16, Nickus de Vos <bigboy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> You don't say what version you are currently on, but best will be to 
>>> go to www.avid.com log in to your master account, go to my products 
>>> and see what versions you can download. It will also tell you whether 
>>> you are currently on a upgrade plan.
>>> If not on a upgrade plan, it will cost you $299 to get back on, which 
>>> will allow you to upgrade to the latest version of 12.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 29 Mar 2016, at 20:20, Vaughn Brown <jazzdress...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Rainy,
>>>> Have you tried calling customer support? They are pretty good about 
>>>> helping.
>>>> 
>>>> Vaughn
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/29/16, Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hello all:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now I downloadd the latest version for the lisince manager for mac, 
>>>>> and i try to sign in through it to know if i can get pro tools 12 as 
>>>>> a free update or not, i could not find anything, just i can find 
>>>>> activate, deactivate. and i can not  click on anyone of them.
>>>>> i open safari and i went to the ilok.com and i sign in, but can not 
>>>>> find a place to download my staff.
>>>>> can you please tell me what to do?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
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>>>>> Music instructor @:
>>>>> Faculty ofmusical education
>>>>> Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
>>>>> Harmony Recording Studio
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg
>>>>> 
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>>>> educator
>>>> 504-202-8492
>>>> http://www.vaughnbrown.net
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Re: avid application manager question

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi
In my experience the latest app manager is slightly broken again in terms of 
accessibility, maybe just me but i can't access the sign in page. 
As for navigating it, make sure quick nav is off, then it navigates like any 
other app. 

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> On 29 Mar 2016, at 16:52, Brian Howerton  wrote:
> 
> Hello folks,
> I have been trying to play around with the avid application manger because I 
> have seen the notification that there is an update, but I am a little 
> confused as to how to navigate it.  Does anyone have any tips as far as 
> navigating the new application manger with voiceover?  Could someone just 
> explain how to get around in it for me?  I’ve been playing with it, but just 
> am not getting anywhere I guess.  Thanks,
> Brian
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Re: DO i have a free update to Protools 12 or not?

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Hi
You don't say what version you are currently on, but best will be to go to 
www.avid.com log in to your master account, go to my products and see what 
versions you can download. It will also tell you whether you are currently on a 
upgrade plan. 
If not on a upgrade plan, it will cost you $299 to get back on, which will 
allow you to upgrade to the latest version of 12. 

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> On 29 Mar 2016, at 20:20, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Rainy,
> Have you tried calling customer support? They are pretty good about helping.
> 
> Vaughn
> 
> 
>> On 3/29/16, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> Hello all:
>> 
>> Now I downloadd the latest version for the lisince manager for mac,
>> and i try to sign in through it to know if i can get pro tools 12 as a
>> free update or not, i could not find anything, just i can find
>> activate, deactivate. and i can not  click on anyone of them.
>> i open safari and i went to the ilok.com and i sign in, but can not
>> find a place to download my staff.
>> can you please tell me what to do?
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Ramy MoustafaSaber
>> Music instructor @:
>> Faculty ofmusical education
>> Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
>> Harmony Recording Studio
>> https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg
>> 
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PT 12.5 Cloud Collaboration

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi all
I’m busy downloading 12.5 have anybody installed it yet? Are there any changes, 
things broken or improvements in terms of VO?
I haven’t seen detailed release notes yet, with the last few updates VO changes 
actually got a mention in the release notes.

I’m quite keen to try out the cloud collaboration feature so hope accessing all 
its windows etc is fully accessible. I don’t see myself using a feature like 
that a lot, but from time to time it will come in handy.

Nickus

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Re: d d p master

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi
A friend gave me a copy it's 1.6.1. If i try to install it, i get a warning 
that my system doesn't require that update. I can only close the message and 
have no further option to install it. 
Any ideas?

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> On 26 Mar 2016, at 22:17, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Nickus,
> It appears that the latest version is 1.6.1. I'm not using El Capitan so I'm 
> not one hundred percent certain that it'll work under it but it certainly 
> works under Yosemite so I'd imagine that there would be no issues. Now that 
> I've said that, of course, there will be issues, right? :)
> 
> Slau
> 
>> On Mar 25, 2016, at 6:15 AM, Nickus de Vos <bigboy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Wich version of wave burner are you guys using with el cap?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 24 Mar 2016, at 23:58, Steve Sparrow <i...@sparrowsound.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey poppa, that would be great if you could flick it to me. Cheers 
>>> Steve
>>> 
>>>> On 25 Mar 2016, at 2:02 am, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I may have a copy around Steve, if so, it is on a storage drive that I 
>>>> have to dig up and go through so it could be a day or two.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Steve Sparrow
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 7:07 AM
>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: d d p master
>>>> 
>>>> ok thakns Slau Well at least i know this is around. I’ll see what i can 
>>>> find. Steve
>>>> 
>>>>> On 25 Mar 2016, at 1:02 am, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not a Windows user so I'm not sure about that side of things, 
>>>>> although from what I understand, there doesn't seem to be any option. 
>>>>> Wave Burner does allow you to save projects as DDP files as well. I do it 
>>>>> all the time for album submissions to duplicators.
>>>>> HTH,
>>>>> Slau
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 24, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Steve Sparrow <i...@sparrowsound.com.au> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi  Slau. Ok thanks for this. What about PC do we have any more opsions 
>>>>>> there. Also. i’ve ofteen been asked by duplicators when mastering a 
>>>>>> product in my studio whether i can provide a DDP master. I don’t have to 
>>>>>> worry about this right this second. But i’d be interested to know if 
>>>>>> there is any way a blind person can create one on mac or pc, and how you 
>>>>>> would go about such a thing.
>>>>>> Thanks in advance Slau
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>> On 25 Mar 2016, at 12:38 am, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On the Mac, the only program of which I'm aware is the old wave 
>>>>>>> Burner application from Apple. It was bundled with Logic a few years 
>>>>>>> ago. Although it's no longer available, per se, if you can locate an 
>>>>>>> older copy of Logic, you might be able to pick it up secondhand. The 
>>>>>>> application still works, at least under Yosemite. I'm not sure about 
>>>>>>> El Capitan but I'd imagine it works there too. Hope that helps, Slau
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 24, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Steve Sparrow <i...@sparrowsound.com.au> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hey guys. anyone know of an accessible program that will allow me to 
>>>>>>>> play a DDP master. Some times i have to deal with mastering sweets and 
>>>>>>>> have been asked if I can play a DDP master. at the moment i just get 
>>>>>>>> them to send me a bunch of wav files. which is fine. but just 
>>>>>>>> wondering if there is anything out there that is accessible that would 
>>>>>>>> do this job.
>>>>>>>> Steve
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Re: d d p master

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Wich version of wave burner are you guys using with el cap?

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> On 24 Mar 2016, at 23:58, Steve Sparrow  wrote:
> 
> Hey poppa, that would be great if you could flick it to me. Cheers 
> Steve
> 
>> On 25 Mar 2016, at 2:02 am, Poppa Bear  wrote:
>> 
>> I may have a copy around Steve, if so, it is on a storage drive that I have 
>> to dig up and go through so it could be a day or two.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Steve Sparrow
>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 7:07 AM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: d d p master
>> 
>> ok thakns Slau Well at least i know this is around. I’ll see what i can 
>> find. Steve
>> 
>>> On 25 Mar 2016, at 1:02 am, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Steve,
>>> 
>>> I'm not a Windows user so I'm not sure about that side of things, although 
>>> from what I understand, there doesn't seem to be any option. Wave Burner 
>>> does allow you to save projects as DDP files as well. I do it all the time 
>>> for album submissions to duplicators.
>>> HTH,
>>> Slau
>>> 
 On Mar 24, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Steve Sparrow  
 wrote:
 
 Hi  Slau. Ok thanks for this. What about PC do we have any more opsions 
 there. Also. i’ve ofteen been asked by duplicators when mastering a 
 product in my studio whether i can provide a DDP master. I don’t have to 
 worry about this right this second. But i’d be interested to know if there 
 is any way a blind person can create one on mac or pc, and how you would 
 go about such a thing.
 Thanks in advance Slau
 Steve
> On 25 Mar 2016, at 12:38 am, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> On the Mac, the only program of which I'm aware is the old wave 
> Burner application from Apple. It was bundled with Logic a few years 
> ago. Although it's no longer available, per se, if you can locate an 
> older copy of Logic, you might be able to pick it up secondhand. The 
> application still works, at least under Yosemite. I'm not sure about 
> El Capitan but I'd imagine it works there too. Hope that helps, Slau
> 
> On Mar 24, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Steve Sparrow  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hey guys. anyone know of an accessible program that will allow me to 
>> play a DDP master. Some times i have to deal with mastering sweets and 
>> have been asked if I can play a DDP master. at the moment i just get 
>> them to send me a bunch of wav files. which is fine. but just wondering 
>> if there is anything out there that is accessible that would do this job.
>> Steve
>> 
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Re: Yosemite versus El Capitan when using protools

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi
In my opinion no, just stay where you are, on Yosemite. I can't give you 
spesific reasons or examples, but over all Yosemite just felt much more smooth 
and solid than El Capitan. 
Not that updating will break or hectically change something in terms of PT, but 
if it was my choice, I'd stay put on 10.10. 
If it wasn't such a mission reinstalling everything and if i had the time, i 
would have been back on Yosemite long time ago. 

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> On 19 Mar 2016, at 16:37, Darwin May  wrote:
> 
> , I was wondering if  it is good to upgrade to El Capitan from Yosemite and 
> ProTools, Does the accessibility remain the same? 
> 
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Re: Mixing VoiceOver and Pro Tools

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Yes, PT then goes through my external sound card and monitors 

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> On 03 Mar 2016, at 14:36, Martin (Punky) Sopart <m...@cakewalker.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi Nickus!
> 
> And Pro Tools runns over your monitor speakers or another headset over the 
> other?
> 
> Best! / Martin
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
>> On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
>> Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 1:13 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Mixing VoiceOver and Pro Tools
>> 
>> Hi
>> I don't send voiceover through my external sound card. I patch VO to my
>> internal iMac sound card then use bone conducting headphones for the
>> voice.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On 02 Mar 2016, at 23:57, Ricky Prevatte <rickypreva...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Eyepatch voice over in on a unarmed channel on my presonus  studio live.
>>> 
>>> Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 2, 2016, at 7:55 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart <m...@cakewalker.de>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all!
>>>> 
>>>> Just for my interest...
>>>> What do you use - when working with headphones - to mix VoiceOver's
>> speech
>>>> and the output of Pro Tools together.
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards! / Martin
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Re: Powered Microphones

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi Vaughn
As Slau said, a pad or attenuator is where you should start. Condenser 
microphones will always be more sensitive than dynamic microphones. 
After getting your levels sorted you can look at mic placement to try sort out 
bleed and only after that reach for processing like gates. 

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> On 11 Feb 2016, at 14:12, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Vaughn,
> 
> When using condenser mics on loud sources like drums or amps, it's typical to 
> use an attenuator (or pad) to decrease the output of the mic to the preamp. 
> Condensers' outputs are significantly higher than dynamic mics which accounts 
> for the difference in levels you're seeing. I'm not familiar with your 
> interface and whether it has its own built-in pad but you can certainly find 
> in-line attenuators to use between the mics and and the preamp. Shure makes a 
> nice attenuator with an adjustable pad of minus 10 dB, minus 15 dB and minus 
> 20 dB. If you end up getting fixed level attenuators, I'd say you should use 
> at least 15 or 20 decibels.
> Hope that helps,
> Slau
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2016, at 11:45 PM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Damn, most of that went over my head. I was specifically talking about
>> the Phantom power aspect of it.
>> What I am driving at is when the phantom power is one for the two
>> mikes, it picks up sound even when the gain knob is completely turned
>> down. What I am aiming to do is to correct this in order to have
>> better control over the two mikes's sensitivity. None of my none-power
>> mikes are giving me this issue.
>> I did study miking the drum set in college. This is more technical. I
>> may call Sweetwater to ask if they could adjust it in th saffire mix
>> control software.
>> 
>> Thank you folks,
>> Vaughn
>> 
>>> On 2/10/16, Chris Smart  wrote:
>>> By powered do you mean condenser microphones, as in, they require 48V?
>>> 
>>> It sounds like your levels are just too high,
>>> either at your audio interface, or input levels in ProTools.
>>> 
>>> Once you get your gain staging sorted out, mic
>>> placement may clean up some of your bleed between
>>> different parts of the kit. Or, use noise gating
>>> to take care of a lot of that spill.
>>> 
>>> No comment on CMG's post really.  You certainly
>>> didn't ask how to set an EQ or anything about
>>> mixing in mono.  Yes mixing in mono is a good
>>> idea, and I'm guessing CMG got this from Graham
>>> Cochrane, a popular recording and mixing educator
>>> online. Believe me, starting a mix in mono is not
>>> a rare or unusual idea. LOL Chris, shouldn't we
>>> try to get his gain staging and mic placement
>>> sorted out, maybe some help with setting up noise gates?
>>> 
>>> Vaughan, I apologize if in fact, you were looking for general mixing tips.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At 09:29 PM 2/10/2016, you wrote:
 Vaun,
 
 OK, so, here's the deal.  I don't know much
 about these mikes, I'm not going to sit here and
 act like a know-it-all.  Truth is, I don't
 hardly know anything.  However, that said, I do have a suggestion for you.
 
 I understand that this may be a little work, but
 trust me.  In the long run, you will thank
 yourself e-freaking-mensely! for this!  Try to
 learn about E Q.  Especially, I'd like you to
 focus on learning about the queue control within
 an EQ.  Learn about what it means when we speak
 of a symetrical, vs. an A-symetrical curve.
 
 Without going into much detail, what is probably
 happenning is, you're probably getting what is
 called bleedover.  This is where one of two
 things are probably occuring, and there's even a
 possibility that both may be in the works.
 
 Firstly, you may be getting some noise from the
 electrical power of the mike itself.  This
 shouldn't be very much, if any, but it's
 possible.  I mean, it is electrically ran.  Be
 it by a battery or not, digital or not, the
 point is, there will be a slight bit of
 noise.  Generally, it's not enough to notice,
 but sometimes it can creep through.  With some
 editting, and audio track clean up on your part,
 and maybe with a little bit of confing, this can
 be somewhat, though probably not entirely
 avoided.  It's just the nature of the beast.
 
 Also, a compressor might help a bit, though you
 want to be very careful with that front, as too
 little compression, it'll not fix the
 problem.  Too much, and you'll squash it to the point that it sounds
 terrible.
 
 Here is a workflow I like using for getting rid of noise.
 
 I start with everything totally raw.  Just
 record your drums, your vocal, whatever you need
 miked.  If you have a hardware EQ, or pre, etc.
 just set everything straight dead up the
 center.  Just put everything neutral at
 12:00.  Make sure you're coming in on your input
 at around 

Re: Comping issue seems to be resolved

[Nickus de Vos]

Chris, why do you always start a second and even third or fourth new thread on 
a specific topic when all actually belongs or could have been posted under the 
same thread?
This makes searching the archives for old posts a nightmare and to be frank, 
it's very annoying. 

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> On 17 Jan 2016, at 21:00, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> That makes sense.  I'm just glad to know I am actually not crazy.  LOL!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Kevin Reeves" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 12:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Comping issue seems to be resolved
> 
> 
>> Let me explain why this selection toggle issue happens.
>> 
>> When  someone makes edits using the mouse, they are clicking into the 
>> waveform of a track, therefore placing an insertion point there.
>> 
>> Since we are not using the mouse, we rely on the keyboard to make track 
>> selections, that's why we need the Track and edit selections options checked.
>> 
>> However, sometimes when we begin working, even if we've selected a track, 
>> the edit selection doesn't take.
>> 
>> Therefore, toggling it will force the edit selection to engage.
>> You may not have to select another track, you may just be able to toggle the 
>> track select on and off, not totally sure about this because I'm using 
>> control P and semi colon most of the time.
>> 
>> If you have a control surface, scrubbing inside the track will also create 
>> an insertion point.
>> 
>> 
>> This trips us all up on occasion, so it needs to be part of our preflight 
>> check before we begin editing.
>> 
>> Kevin
>> 
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Re: Comping issue seems to be resolved

[Nickus de Vos]

Just keep the mails in your inbox and reply to them, as simple as that. 
BTW sorry if i came across a bit harsh, I think you should go reflect on the 
meaning of the word immature before resorting to name calling so quickly. 

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> On 17 Jan 2016, at 22:53, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Maybe because I am unsure how to find the thread in the archive after 
> deleting the thread in my e-mail client?  Maybe, just! Maybe! that's why?
> 
> Perhaps instead of you being such an immature jerk about it, you could try 
> educating me on how to do this so that I don't ruffle your so tenderly 
> fragile feathers going forward? Hmm? hmm?
> 
> If I knew how to find the same thread, and then post directly to it, I would 
> do so going forward.
> 
> Now!  Does anyone care to help me maybe off list with the steps to locate a 
> particular thread, without throwing a 2 year old tempor tantom in the process?
> 
> clgillan...@gmail.com
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy...@gmail.com>
> To: <ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 3:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Comping issue seems to be resolved
> 
> 
>> Chris, why do you always start a second and even third or fourth new thread 
>> on a specific topic when all actually belongs or could have been posted 
>> under the same thread?
>> This makes searching the archives for old posts a nightmare and to be frank, 
>> it's very annoying.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 17 Jan 2016, at 21:00, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That makes sense.  I'm just glad to know I am actually not crazy.  LOL!
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Kevin Reeves" <reeves...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 12:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Comping issue seems to be resolved
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Let me explain why this selection toggle issue happens.
>>>> 
>>>> When  someone makes edits using the mouse, they are clicking into the 
>>>> waveform of a track, therefore placing an insertion point there.
>>>> 
>>>> Since we are not using the mouse, we rely on the keyboard to make track 
>>>> selections, that's why we need the Track and edit selections options 
>>>> checked.
>>>> 
>>>> However, sometimes when we begin working, even if we've selected a track, 
>>>> the edit selection doesn't take.
>>>> 
>>>> Therefore, toggling it will force the edit selection to engage.
>>>> You may not have to select another track, you may just be able to toggle 
>>>> the track select on and off, not totally sure about this because I'm using 
>>>> control P and semi colon most of the time.
>>>> 
>>>> If you have a control surface, scrubbing inside the track will also create 
>>>> an insertion point.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> This trips us all up on occasion, so it needs to be part of our preflight 
>>>> check before we begin editing.
>>>> 
>>>> Kevin
>>>> 
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Re: Comping issue seems to be resolved

[Nickus de Vos]

You got it spot on Slau, I didn't mean that as a attack at all. Apologies if it 
looked like it. 

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> On 18 Jan 2016, at 00:38, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Chris,
> Nobody called you any names so please stop it. Nickus' message wasn't an 
> attack but rather reasonable while yours is not helping. please move on, 
> guys. Thank you.
> Slau
> 
>> On Jan 17, 2016, at 3:53 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe because I am unsure how to find the thread in the archive after 
>> deleting the thread in my e-mail client?  Maybe, just! Maybe! that's why?
>> 
>> Perhaps instead of you being such an immature jerk about it, you could try 
>> educating me on how to do this so that I don't ruffle your so tenderly 
>> fragile feathers going forward? Hmm? hmm?
>> 
>> If I knew how to find the same thread, and then post directly to it, I would 
>> do so going forward.
>> 
>> Now!  Does anyone care to help me maybe off list with the steps to locate a 
>> particular thread, without throwing a 2 year old tempor tantom in the 
>> process?
>> 
>> clgillan...@gmail.com
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy...@gmail.com>
>> To: <ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 3:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: Comping issue seems to be resolved
>> 
>> 
>>> Chris, why do you always start a second and even third or fourth new thread 
>>> on a specific topic when all actually belongs or could have been posted 
>>> under the same thread?
>>> This makes searching the archives for old posts a nightmare and to be 
>>> frank, it's very annoying.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 17 Jan 2016, at 21:00, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> That makes sense.  I'm just glad to know I am actually not crazy.  LOL!
>>>> 
>>>> Chris.
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Kevin Reeves" <reeves...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: <ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 12:43 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Comping issue seems to be resolved
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Let me explain why this selection toggle issue happens.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When  someone makes edits using the mouse, they are clicking into the 
>>>>> waveform of a track, therefore placing an insertion point there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since we are not using the mouse, we rely on the keyboard to make track 
>>>>> selections, that's why we need the Track and edit selections options 
>>>>> checked.
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, sometimes when we begin working, even if we've selected a track, 
>>>>> the edit selection doesn't take.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Therefore, toggling it will force the edit selection to engage.
>>>>> You may not have to select another track, you may just be able to toggle 
>>>>> the track select on and off, not totally sure about this because I'm 
>>>>> using control P and semi colon most of the time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have a control surface, scrubbing inside the track will also 
>>>>> create an insertion point.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> This trips us all up on occasion, so it needs to be part of our preflight 
>>>>> check before we begin editing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kevin
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Re: App manager is now accessible…

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi
Launch app manager and sign in to your Avid account if asked. Then click on the 
applications tab, under this tab you'll see a Avid application manager update. 
Click install and it will start. 
After the download which takes few minuts your sighted assistant might have to 
click on install again, then the usual fully accessible install process starts 
and you can go ahead on your own. 

I had a quick look at it, though it's obviously a huge improvement, looks like 
it's far from being fully accessible, at least looks useable though. 

Nickus

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> On 16 Jan 2016, at 16:47, Brian Howerton  wrote:
> 
> Hi Vinny,
> Once we have sighted assistance, how do we go about running the update?  
> Thanks for posting this,
> Brian
>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 11:42 AM, Vinny Pedulla  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey folks,
>> I've been meaning to post this for a while now…
>> The app manager has become accessible. You will need sighted assistance to 
>> run the update. It will have to update to the latest version of the app 
>> manager. Once you do this you will see the different tabs and most things 
>> are accessible. I still need to play with it some more and see what areas 
>> need to be filled in, but it looks great for now.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Vinny
>> Email: vinnypedu...@gmail.com
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Re: audio interface with at least 8 inputs and outputs and some microphone preamps that are XLR

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Hi Kevan
Back when Behringer bought Midas or when in to partnership with Midas water, a 
lot of people thought it’s the start of big things. When the x32 mixer was 
released and there was talk of Midas tech used in the pre amps things sounded 
even better but soon most realised after all the x32 is still a Behringer and 
will always be a Behringer.
True that the mixer took the market by storm and impressed a lot of people at 
first, but that was mostly because of the hype created, clever marketing with 
the Midas name being tossed around etc.

As I said, if you look at a Behringer x32 today, you soon realise it’s a 
Behringer desk through and through, it works the same as previous models, it 
will last the same as previous models and after a while it will also start 
sounding the same as previous models. Yes they used Midas tech in the pre-amps 
but at the same build quality and quality control, it’s still same old 
Behringer.

With that being said, each person must buy what fits his budget and needs, this 
is simply my opinion. Personally I still use a Focusrite Safire 6 USB and a 
Safire pro 40, both old interfaces but both still fit my needs, I don’t really 
have the need for a newer interface because I don’t track a lot. If I had the 
money and needed to upgrade, I’d probably go for a UAD Apollo or a Focusrite 
Clarett.

Nickus

> On 14 Jan 2016, at 4:33 PM, Kevin Reeves <reeves...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Actually, that company has had a giant shake up in the past three years. For 
> the longest time, I believe the exact same thing you did.  They have since 
> bought Midus  TC helicon, and other big companies. When they released their 
> x32 line of live/studio mixers, it took the pro audio world by storm. All of 
> these guys who at one time or anti-Behringer, couldn't say enough nice things 
> about this line of boards. The interface that we are discussing has that 
> exact same set of preamps in it. I have heard tons of Boardmixes with these 
> preamps, and they sound great. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this 
> piece of hardware. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 14, 2016, at 7:18 AM, Nickus de Vos <bigboy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Each to their own and keeping budgets in mind etc, but I don't consider 
>> Behringer a pro audio brand and will never use anything Behringer in my 
>> studio or in a live rig, especially a piece of gear which passes audio. 
>> If you are serious about what you do then get something decent, Focusrite 
>> make decent stuff and they are not that expensive. Comparing the sound 
>> quality of a $500 Behringer interface to a $500 Focusrite interface, the 
>> difference will be night and day, plus the Focusrite will last longer. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 14 Jan 2016, at 06:34, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah i am debating between that one and the 404HD one since its got inserts 
>>> for all the inputs and a basic monitor switcher built in . 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 9:51 PM, Kevin Reeves <reeves...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Just looked at the Behringer 18 20 manual and I can safely say that there 
>>>> is no control panel needed. There is a direct monitoring knob on the unit, 
>>>> and a button for setting sample rate for external digital devices.
>>>> 
>>>> For $199, this may be an incredible bang for the buck.
>>>> 
>>>> I think I’ll take the plunge here in a few weeks and grab one. I’ll report 
>>>> back.
>>>> 
>>>> Kevin
>>>> 
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Re: audio interface with at least 8 inputs and outputs and some microphone preamps that are XLR

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Each to their own and keeping budgets in mind etc, but I don't consider 
Behringer a pro audio brand and will never use anything Behringer in my studio 
or in a live rig, especially a piece of gear which passes audio. 
If you are serious about what you do then get something decent, Focusrite make 
decent stuff and they are not that expensive. Comparing the sound quality of a 
$500 Behringer interface to a $500 Focusrite interface, the difference will be 
night and day, plus the Focusrite will last longer. 

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> On 14 Jan 2016, at 06:34, TheOreoMonster  wrote:
> 
> Yeah i am debating between that one and the 404HD one since its got inserts 
> for all the inputs and a basic monitor switcher built in . 
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2016, at 9:51 PM, Kevin Reeves  wrote:
>> 
>> Just looked at the Behringer 18 20 manual and I can safely say that there is 
>> no control panel needed. There is a direct monitoring knob on the unit, and 
>> a button for setting sample rate for external digital devices.
>> 
>> For $199, this may be an incredible bang for the buck.
>> 
>> I think I’ll take the plunge here in a few weeks and grab one. I’ll report 
>> back.
>> 
>> Kevin
>> 
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Re: Full Apple keyboard

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Hi
Yes a full keyboard is highly recommended to have the number pad. What you can 
do if a full Apple keyboard does not fit in your budget right now, buy a 
different brand full size USB keyboard for a fraction of the price of a Apple 
one. That’s what I did until I could afford to buy a Apple keyboard, I used a 
Logitech keyboard for a very long time with my iMac.

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> Yes you for sure need one!!!
> Mac
> 
> 
> 
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
> 
> Op 9 dec. 2015 om 09:17 heeft Andy B.  > het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> I have to look hard at my budget. It is sort of getting stretched before 
>> everything on the list is accounted for. Is a full sized Apple keyboard 
>> required to completely use PT, or is it something you can get by without 
>> until a later date?
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Re: logging into the iLok License Manager before browsing account

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Check that quick nav is switched off 

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> On 09 Dec 2015, at 13:20, Darwin May  wrote:
> 
> Hello, I am having issues with my ILok for some reason. When I did the demo 
> of ProTools I had no problem but when I go to install ProTools 12.3, and 
> other software. I cannot discover my eye lock device and the eye lock 
> manager. I did command L for location and try to arrow down to the device 
> like usual but all it would say is text, has anyone had any issues such as 
> this? Someone who is cited was able to click on my ILok for me but I could 
> not do it independently. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 13, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>> 
>> I just thought I'd point out something that might confuse people about 
>> logging into the iLok account with the iLok License Manager. When you launch 
>> the ILM, you need to log into your account. If you've previously checked the 
>> checkbox to remember your login name and password, all you need to do is hit 
>> Return and you'll be logged in. If you don't hit Return or you don't enter 
>> your login name and password, you won't be logged in but you will still be 
>> able to browse the contents of any connected iLok key. so, in other words, 
>> you can take a stranger's iLok, insert it and see the licenses on it. To be 
>> sure, you can't do anything to those licenses unless you know the login name 
>> and password for the account to which that iLok is registered. So, here's 
>> the thing: if you're not truly logged in, you'll see your own iLoks and 
>> recognize the contents and all but it will appear that your connected iLok 
>> or iLoks are registered to a different account. In fact, they're registered 
>> to your account but, until you log in, it'll appear as if they belong to 
>> another account. To make sure you've logged in, check the file menu and 
>> you'll see whether it says, "Sign In" or "Sign Out." Another way to force 
>> the login dialog to come up is, after launching, you can just hit Command-1. 
>> If you're already logged in, it'll simply take you to a list of all of your 
>> licenses but, if you're not logged in, you'll be faced with the login 
>> dialog. Again, checking the box to remember the login info will ensure that 
>> all you have to do is press return after launching the ILM and you should be 
>> fine.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Slau
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Re: Running PT without an ILock

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Just tried my 12.3.1 and it doesn't even last a minut before complaining. Only 
way to try PT without a iLok will be PT first

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> On 07 Dec 2015, at 17:16, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Nope?  It'll tell you it's missing an ILok, then'll crash.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Andy B." 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 2:19 AM
> Subject: Running PT without an ILock
> 
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> What happens if you run PT without an ILock. Will it run in a 30 day trial 
>> mode?
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Re: Protools tutorials

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Hi
Your best bet will be to purchase the Pro-Tools with speech tutorials, they 
will get you on the right track. Just Google Pro tools with speech and you’ll 
get the website.

The Pro-tools with speech tutorials are a very good resource, however reading 
through the PT manual is also quite important and will help you a lot.

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> Hi,
> 
> I don’t have Protools yet. However, when I do end up with it, are there 
> sample projects that come with a how to guide to help someone get started? I 
> don’t know if these would come with the PT manual, or would we have to 
> download them outside of PT? I am looking for ones that focus on the 
> accessibility features of PT rather than the typical production workflow, 
> since that can be obtained through a mainstream book on audio production.
> 
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Is it safe to install 12.3.1?

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Hi all
I downloaded PT 12.3 the other day but haven’t even installed it yet by the 
time Avid released the 12.3.1 update. I’m now busy downloading 12.3.1 and just 
want to know if it’s safe to install in terms of everything being fine with VO, 
nothing broken etc?
I’m still on 10.10 Yosemite and will probably still be for a while because all 
my Plugin Alliance stuff is not officially supported on 10.11 yet, I anyway 
hear that there are still a lot of general VO bugs in El Capitan.

Thanks

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Re: Is it safe to install 12.3.1?

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Hi Chris
If I remember correctly Avid released 12.3.1 like last week.

Thanks Slau, already installed. Nothing like spending a afternoon updating the 
DAW a bit, clearing out old stuff, updating plug-ins etc etc.

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<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

> When did 12.3.1 come out?  I wonder if that is what I have.  Unfortunately, 
> the About screen isn't accessible.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:bigboy...@gmail.com>>
> To: <ptaccess@googlegroups.com <mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>>
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 9:12 AM
> Subject: Is it safe to install 12.3.1?
> 
> 
> Hi all
> I downloaded PT 12.3 the other day but haven’t even installed it yet by the 
> time Avid released the 12.3.1 update. I’m now busy downloading 12.3.1 and 
> just want to know if it’s safe to install in terms of everything being fine 
> with VO, nothing broken etc?
> I’m still on 10.10 Yosemite and will probably still be for a while because 
> all my Plugin Alliance stuff is not officially supported on 10.11 yet, I 
> anyway hear that there are still a lot of general VO bugs in El Capitan.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Nickus
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Re: That's weird. ProTools version confusion

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Or downloaded the wrong installer by mistake. 
Earlier when I downloaded 12.3.1 I noticed that it wasn't at the top of the 
list on the Avid site. It's like 3rd or 4th under 12.3 for mac and also under 
the installer for windows. 

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> On 28 Nov 2015, at 19:09, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Chris,
> 
> That's the previous version. I just installed the update and the version 
> number shows up as 12.3.1.260. You might have inadvertently run the wrong 
> installer. Not sure what happened there for you but I'd take another look.
> Slau
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>> 
>> So, I just installed Protools 12.3.1 from my Avid account page.
>> 
>> Now, when I look at the command+I get info page, as Slau suggested on the 
>> ProTools.app file, it shows 12.3.0.241, Copyright 1991-2013 Avid Technology, 
>> Inc. as the version.
>> .  Now how strange is that!  The name of the dmg file I downloaded is 
>> Pro_Tools_12_3_1_T_Mac_88511.dmg.
>> 
>> That is the only thing I see back there with any reference at all to 12.3.1. 
>>  Everything else seems to just be 12.3.0.
>> 
>> What is the deal here?
>> 
>> Chris.
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Re: That's weird. ProTools version confusion

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The one I downloaded earlier today also have a T in the file name, but after 
installing, my PT version number clearly says 12.3.1

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> On 28 Nov 2015, at 20:15, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Maybe I am going the wrong way about getting this.
> 
> What I did was:
> 
> 1.  Go to:
> 
> http://account.avid.com
> 
> I logged into my account with my e-mail and password.
> 
> 2.  I clicked the link for my products and subscriptions.
> 
> 3.  I scrolled down to where it shows ProTools 11 to 12 anual subscription 
> Valid from 4/4/2015, valid until 4/3/2016.
> 
> 4.  I interact with that heading, and vo+space on it, then stop interacting 
> with the heading.
> 
> 5.  I go down past the cover image, etc. and see where it has the heading to 
> show or hide downloads.  I interact with that heading, then vo+space on the 
> show link.
> 
> 6.  The only link I then see that says anything about 12.3.1 is that 12.3.1T 
> thinga ma bobber.  When I go there, I download it, it's a little over a gig 
> in size, then run it, install it, and now it shows in the get info screen of 
> the .app file, version 12.3.0.  It's the weirdest thing.
> 
> For one thing, what the hell is that T doing in that version number? 12.3.1T? 
>  Everything else is showing just 12.3.  or lower.  Not 12.3.1 anything.  I 
> mean, ok, I see a 12.3.1 win installer, but again that says 12.3.1T win, and 
> not that that would do me any good, anyway.
> 
> I'm totally not getting this!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy...@gmail.com>
> To: <ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
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> Subject: Re: That's weird. ProTools version confusion
> 
> 
>> Or downloaded the wrong installer by mistake.
>> Earlier when I downloaded 12.3.1 I noticed that it wasn't at the top of the 
>> list on the Avid site. It's like 3rd or 4th under 12.3 for mac and also 
>> under the installer for windows.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On 28 Nov 2015, at 19:09, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Chris,
>>> 
>>> That's the previous version. I just installed the update and the version 
>>> number shows up as 12.3.1.260. You might have inadvertently run the wrong 
>>> installer. Not sure what happened there for you but I'd take another look.
>>> Slau
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 28, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Chris Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So, I just installed Protools 12.3.1 from my Avid account page.
>>>> 
>>>> Now, when I look at the command+I get info page, as Slau suggested on the 
>>>> ProTools.app file, it shows 12.3.0.241, Copyright 1991-2013 Avid 
>>>> Technology, Inc. as the version.
>>>> .  Now how strange is that!  The name of the dmg file I downloaded is 
>>>> Pro_Tools_12_3_1_T_Mac_88511.dmg.
>>>> 
>>>> That is the only thing I see back there with any reference at all to 
>>>> 12.3.1.  Everything else seems to just be 12.3.0.
>>>> 
>>>> What is the deal here?
>>>> 
>>>> Chris.
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Re: You know, this just keeps getting weirder and weirder!

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Long shot, have you tried restarting your machine?

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> On 28 Nov 2015, at 20:45, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> I paid very very close attention this time to the installer.  It definitely 
> says 12.3.1 installer.
>  
> The file within the dmg says install Pro_tools 12.3.1.pkg.  Yet, after it has 
> been installed, when I go to my applications folder, and hit command+I, then 
> I look in that window at version, it still says 12.3.0.  This is the 
> strangest thing I've ever seen!
>  
> Folks, really! I'm not stupid! I swear!  I know what I'm doing, and I know 
> what I'm seeing.
>  
> Would anyone like a Dropbox audio file with me showing what I'm seeing?
>  
> Chris.
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Re: 70 percent ot - External storage device for PT sessions

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USB2 is not recommended especially for tracking in PT. what you want is USB3, 
firewire or thunderbolt with a 7200 RPM drive or faster. Because of your USB2 
limitation on the one machine, I will recommend you get a network attached 
drive able to connect to your machines via ethernet, usually these drives have 
USB or firewire connection as well. If you have some sort of network router you 
can even have the drive connected to both machines at the same time. 
No matter what interface you choose, remember the 7200 RPM drive speed is very 
important. 

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> 
> It's funny to think back to the days before Digidesign approved FireWire 
> devices for Pro Tools. SCSI was the standard but, reliable as it was, it was 
> very expensive. Right at the time when I was about to buy two more SCSI 
> drives, I heard of people using FireWire drives with Pro Tools without any 
> issues. Possibly only two months later, Digidesign had their own branded 
> FireWire drives for sale. Well, I didn't buy the Digi brand drives but it was 
> a novelty to be able to spend two hundred dollars on a Firewire drive rather 
> than two thousand dollars on a pair of SCSI drives.
> 
> Slau
> 
>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 9:33 AM, TheOreoMonster  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep used a USB 2 drive for years with PT.  If it has FW you can always
>> go for an FW drive or if it has Thunderbolt you can always used USB3
>> over thunderbolt with a Dock as well.
>> 
>>> On 11/10/15, Martin (Punky) Sopart  wrote:
>>> Hello!
>>> 
>>> I'm using two Macs with PT and want to store all sessions on an external
>>> device.
>>> The older Mac is equipped with USB2 only.
>>> 
>>> Is USB2 fast enough for that?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance! / Martin
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Re: Bohemian Rhapsody?

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Google is your friend. 

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> Whatd slau do and how do i get a copy?
> 
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>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 10:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
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>> How do I get the Bohemian Rhapsody session for  PT12?  By the way Slau makes 
>> it sound in his recording, it's something we all should have.
>>  
>> Chris.
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Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] [Bulk] Pro Tools Dock and s3

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The D-control has been discontinued and is no longer supported on newer PT 
systems. As Slau said previously, even with the C24, problem with investing in 
it at this time, is that we don't kno how long till Avid stops supporting it. 

Personally if I were to invest in a control serfice at this point, I won't even 
considder the C24 simply because Avid could decide to pull the plug on it any 
day.  At this point go S3 or if you have deep pockets, S6. 

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> Hi. Thanks for the info about the D Control. I’ve never heard of this control 
> surface before. I   looked on Avid’s website and it said they discontinued 
> selling and supporting the D Control though. I’ll check and see if I can find 
> any info about this board.
> Katie
>> On Nov 5, 2015, at 10:02 PM, 'Hi' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Katie, I've been using multiple surfaces over the years and for the 
>> investment I don't think the C24 is worth anything over the current Ebay 
>> price which is between 3000 and 4500 used depending on the condition. 
>> Certainly if you were going to spend anything near 10,000 the better bet 
>> would be a D|control. We got rid of 3 C24's which were all in good condition 
>> for $3500. You can find one around that price if you keep searching. I use 
>> both the D-control and D|command and I see the D|control on Ebay all of the 
>> time for around $10,000. There's one right now with the X-mon and surround 
>> panner for that price in NY and one just sold in California for 11,000 
>> including a hard wired patch bay. The board is bigger than the C-24 but it 
>> has a dedicated EQ and compression section plus it's very tactile. There are 
>> buttons and nobs for everything including PT shortcuts so you'll almost 
>> never use the actual qwerty keyboard other than typing names for tracks and 
>> inputting text. It's fully customizable and you can program soft keys to do 
>> just about everything. If the state will spring for it I would go for it 
>> over an S3. I've used an S3 2 weeks ago and I'm not very familiar with it so 
>> I can't say anything other than it doesn't do as much and is a much smaller 
>> surface footprint. I personally like large faders that feel like a big board 
>> which neither the C|24 or S3 have. If you're going by feel there's a large 
>> difference and that will become vital if you're working on the board many 
>> hours a day. I've also used a D|command quite a bit and feel it lacks in 
>> comparison in terms of options and also only has 2 rotary pots per channel 
>> as opposed to 6. These are both older boards so nobody really knows the 
>> shelf life but I don't see it becoming completely extinct at least for a few 
>> years. There are 2 versions of the D|command and D|control and the oldest is 
>> the blue version of both. The X-mon that they both can be used with will 
>> take care of any monitoring paths including talk back. It's one of those 
>> things where if you can get it paid for you'll never go back to something 
>> that doesn't have the feel of an actual board.
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Re: Upgraded to PT 12 yesterday. Download links still not appearing.

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I agree that the Avid site is quite weird when it comes to upgrading and 
downloading new versions. Also, might just be me, but seams each time I visit 
their site it's not quite the same, as if they constantly make small changes. 

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> Slao,
> 
> You are not the only one. When I was upgrading mine to PT 12 it took
> me a few days. I called a friend of mine to help, then had to ask my
> sighted partner to click on the iLoc registration etc. It also took me
> a while to sort through the various parts of the website, too.
> 
> Thank you for sharing your experience.
> Vaughn
> 
>> On 11/4/15, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>> To add to what Kevin mentioned about the upgrade process, I must say, having
>> gone through it with my assistant over the last couple of years, it was not
>> an issue because I didn't have to deal with anything aside from simply
>> providing information. Well, I attempted the process today and, man, it's
>> frustrating. Now, I've registered and activated Pro Tools in the past
>> without issue but that was several years ago and it worked fine. Today, when
>> I pasted my authorization code in and hit return, I was prompted to update
>> my billing and shipping info. After following the link, there was no way for
>> me to find the "Confirm" button. Now, perhaps I was a bit impatient after
>> several attempts but I really saw no other option but to contact my
>> Sweetwater rep and he took care of the authorization process. I took care of
>> the rest but that initial authorization step, at least for me (and I might
>> not have updated my info for some time), was pretty much impossible. There's
>> something about Avid's site that's just quirky. The whole products section
>> seems to be fine but the activation/registration part of it is wonky.
>> 
>> Anyway. Also, thanks to Kevin for pointing out the upgrade link in which you
>> select which bundle license will be surrendered before moving on to the
>> downloads. That was helpful. I wouldn't have thought to necessarily click on
>> that link.
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2015, at 10:25 AM, Kevin Reeves  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok. I figured out the problem.
>>> 
>>> I got on with the sweet water tech guy via team viewer, and he pointed out
>>> a popup button below the perpetual license that I missed. You have to
>>> choose which bundle to upgrade from.
>>> Once that was clicked, the downloads showed up for PT 12. Now, if I can
>>> just figure out where my free 11 plug is available for download, I’m all
>>> set.
>>> 
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Re: number pad

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In my experience, the only way which works properly, is to get a full size USB 
keyboard. It's not ideal especially if traveling a lot with your laptop, but in 
the end it's the only propper working solution. 

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> On 31 Oct 2015, at 01:11, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
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> Thank you. I will look into that.
> Vaughn
> 
>> On 10/30/15, TheOreoMonster  wrote:
>> i think the problem why bt number pads didn’t work well was because OS X saw
>> each device as a completely separate keyboard so you couldn’t say hold the
>> cmd key on the laptop keyboard while pressing number on the numbered. If
>> this is the case it would still apply to USB number pads. However i seem to
>> remember that later versions of OS X will now see them as one keyboard so
>> you may have better luck now, but don’t quote me on that. Someone else here
>> may confirm whether or that thats true now though. However for best results
>> just get a full size apple keyboard and use that via USB when using pro
>> tools..
>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> My name is Vaughn Brown. I have a question regarding number pads to be
>>> used with ProTools.
>>> 
>>> As I am using a laptop I do not have a number pad. And I've been
>>> having trouble remapping my computer's keyboard to work with ProTools.
>>> After doing some research it seems to me that Bluetooth number pads do
>>> not work well with PT. This lead me to my question, would a USB
>>> powered number pad be more reliable?
>>> 
>>> Thank you, and have a nice day.
>>> Vaughn Brown
>>> Berklee College of Music graduate
>>> http://www.vaughnbrown.net
 On 10/29/15, Chris Smart  wrote:
 Hey Slau.
 
 So, how's the convention? Heard any interesting talks? Seen any cool new
 products? Have you put the accessibility bug in anyone else's ear?
 
 Just curious.
 
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Re: I understand this is highly discouraged at this time, but, El Capitan?

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Personally I don't have a second machine to mess around with and can't afford 
any down time, so I won't be trying untill at least Avid gives the green light. 

You know the risks, you know it could possibly go very wrong, if you feel the 
need then go for it. 

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> Pro Tools 11 is completely broken on my El Capitan Machine.
> 
> I posted a few weeks ago my findings.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 7:47 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I totally totally get that it is not suggested that we update to El Capitan 
>> at this time on our PT systems.  I know that Avid hasn't officially 
>> certified ProTools for 10.11 yet, let alone 10.11.1.  I think it was Kevin 
>> Reeves who wrote in earlier and said he'd tried it, and it was a baunified 
>> disaster, if ever there be one!  Thank God he had a backup.  I kind a 
>> remember him, however, saying that he did this with version 11, not 12.  
>> Certainly not the latest build of 12, which is, 12.2? isn't it?  Anyway, I'm 
>> just wonderring if anyone actually has tried it with V12, despite the 
>> warnings.  If so, was your experience also really disgusting?  I'm not 
>> saying I'm necessarily gonna try it, I might, but probably not.  And again, 
>> if I do! try it, I'll do so during non workday hours, and believe you me: 
>> yes.  I definitely do have a Super Duper image of my drive, so if something 
>> does indeed blow up in my face, it's not the end of the world by any means.  
>> I can easily enough revert back with hardly any effort.
>>  
>> I'm just wonderring before I attempt, if anyone's tried it, and their over 
>> all experience.  Again, I'm speaking specifically of version 12.X of 
>> ProTools, and I'm speaking specifically of the official builds of El 
>> Capitan, not the public nor private beta seeds.
>>  
>> Chris.
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Re: BTW, 12.2.1 is out

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It's the first time ever i see spesific mention of voiceover or accessibility 
bug fixes and improvements in the release notes of a PT update. 

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> Hi Jon,
> 
> Yes, both faders are controlling the exact same thing. The one that has 
> always been there, which people are familiar with, is technically the fader 
> itself while the second is actually a numeric display that, when clicked on 
> by sighted users, becomes a sort of little pop-up fader. that's the one which 
> moves in tenth of a dB increments.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Slau
> 
>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 2:18 PM, John André Lium-Netland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Thanks Slau, installed 12.2.1 today with no problems. Great accesibility 
>> fixes. As you mentioned, fader groups with VO now works correctly. 
>> 
>> But can I assume that the two faders in each channel will work the same, 
>> even though the one moves by 05 and the other 0.1 dB in each step?
>> 
>> There is 3 radio buttons named “3D Radio" at the bottom of the Add/Modify 
>> Group window. I assume they should be renamed. Not sure what they do though.
>> 
>> Best,
>> John André
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Re: Waves and UAD Plug-in

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Hi
Matt, how is the UAD application windows? Also accessible?

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> Personally, I'm a much bigger fan of the UAD plug-ins! Sound wise I think 
> they sound better. From an excess ability standpoint, the layout of the U a D 
> plugs trumps many plugs that I've ever worked with.
> 
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>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 1:06 PM, Poppa Bear  wrote:
>> 
>> The waves stuff shows up in the Pro tools plug-in windows and you can change 
>> the parameters. The preset lists on the other hand will have to be 
>> downloaded from somebody around here or put together with sighted help. The 
>> waves presets are in the waves gie and need to be saved into the pro tools 
>> preset list in order to be able to scroll through them.
>> HTH
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of James Lee
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 5:57 AM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Waves and UAD Plugins
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I know few people here are using Waves and UAD, and they also created 
>> presets for them. Having said that, how accessible are they with Voiceover?
>> Do parameters show up on the plugin window, or do you need to use 
>> control surface and memorize knobs order for each plugin?
>> Thinking about getting UAD analog classics Plus or Waves ssl.
>> Any other suggestion?
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> JL
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Re: a reminder about level meter issues

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Hi Slau
I got it sorted, the RX4 window was open in the background and I didn’t realise 
that other open windows will have a effect on it.

Thanks again
Nickus

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On 19 Sep 2015, at 17:41, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com 
<mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com>> wrote:

> Hi Nickus,
> 
> I just got to the studio and tried the master fader's level indicator and it 
> works fine. Not sure what issue you're experiencing but I'd certainly check 
> to make sure there's nothing blocking it like other open windows or 
> notifications, etc.
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Nickus de Vos <bigboy...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:bigboy...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> I updated to version 12.2 and now I have this teetering issue in a new 
>> session I created. The session only have 2 tracks and the weird thing is 
>> that the meeter on the stereo audio track works just fine but for the life 
>> of me, I can’t get the master track’s meeter to work. Any ideas?
>> 
>> Nickus
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 08 Aug 2015, at 02:15, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> While troubleshooting something the other day for testing purposes, I had a 
>>> situation where level meters weren't responding. This was quite unexpected 
>>> because it wasn't as if there were a ton of tracks in the session. Now, 
>>> some of you will recall that, when there are too many tracks within a 
>>> session to display at once in the Mix window, the tracks that are 
>>> technically off-screen will not have their level meter values respond. Any 
>>> tracks that appear to be "to the left" of the Track List pop-up menu (still 
>>> referred to as the "show/Hide" list but that'll change soon), are really 
>>> off-screen and anything "to the right," is actually within the boundaries 
>>> of the window and will update the level meters correctly. I've written 
>>> about this before so anyone not familiar with this phenomenon can search 
>>> the archive or look at their mail archive, etc.
>>> 
>>> so, in this case, I was dealing with a session with only four tracks and 
>>> the level meters weren't responding. I had reimported the files into a new 
>>> session and the meters seemed to suddenly work. It was bizarre to me. Then 
>>> I realized that, in the original session, somehow, the View menu's settings 
>>> for the Mix window display were set to display everything. The window, 
>>> therefore, was displaying mic pres, instruments, inserts and sends for both 
>>> a through e and f through j, the I/O displays, meters, comments, etc. Of 
>>> course, this meant that the contents of the Mix window extended beyond the 
>>> edge of the physical window which happened to be sized relatively small. 
>>> So, since the level meters were technically off screen (not horizontally 
>>> but vertically), VoiceOver was seeing a reference to the level meters 
>>> because, as we know, VoiceOver sees all kinds of things that aren't really 
>>> visible but, since the meters weren't really visible, there was no activity 
>>> to report, no actual levels to speak of so no numbers to report. In a case 
>>> like this, either a page down or a zooming of the window fixes the problem. 
>>> Creating sessions from templates would probably be useful in avoiding this 
>>> situation to begin with but I'd sooner shoot myself than use templates. 
>>> Frankly, if you receive sessions from others, there's no guarantee that the 
>>> windows are going to be maximized and, chances are more likely than not, 
>>> the windows are going to be all over the place, depending upon people's 
>>> preferences. It's a good idea to get used to the possibility that a 
>>> window's size might simply not be maximized at any given point. Zooming is 
>>> great but even zooming doesn't necessarily guarantee that the window is 
>>> going to truly be at its maximum dimensions. For those who use Keyboard 
>>> Maestro, there's a single workflow item for tasks such as sizing the 
>>> window. I set up a task to maximize the window to its largest possible 
>>> dimension and it works flawlessly. Worth checking out if KM is part of your 
>>> tool set.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, again, this whole level meter thing caught me off guard. As much as 
>>> I use Pro Tools, things like this rarely happen so, when they do, it 
>>> sometimes takes me by surprise and I'm reminded that others might 
>&g

Re: a reminder about level meter issues

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi
I updated to version 12.2 and now I have this teetering issue in a new session 
I created. The session only have 2 tracks and the weird thing is that the 
meeter on the stereo audio track works just fine but for the life of me, I 
can’t get the master track’s meeter to work. Any ideas?

Nickus
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On 08 Aug 2015, at 02:15, Slau Halatyn > wrote:

> While troubleshooting something the other day for testing purposes, I had a 
> situation where level meters weren't responding. This was quite unexpected 
> because it wasn't as if there were a ton of tracks in the session. Now, some 
> of you will recall that, when there are too many tracks within a session to 
> display at once in the Mix window, the tracks that are technically off-screen 
> will not have their level meter values respond. Any tracks that appear to be 
> "to the left" of the Track List pop-up menu (still referred to as the 
> "show/Hide" list but that'll change soon), are really off-screen and anything 
> "to the right," is actually within the boundaries of the window and will 
> update the level meters correctly. I've written about this before so anyone 
> not familiar with this phenomenon can search the archive or look at their 
> mail archive, etc.
> 
> so, in this case, I was dealing with a session with only four tracks and the 
> level meters weren't responding. I had reimported the files into a new 
> session and the meters seemed to suddenly work. It was bizarre to me. Then I 
> realized that, in the original session, somehow, the View menu's settings for 
> the Mix window display were set to display everything. The window, therefore, 
> was displaying mic pres, instruments, inserts and sends for both a through e 
> and f through j, the I/O displays, meters, comments, etc. Of course, this 
> meant that the contents of the Mix window extended beyond the edge of the 
> physical window which happened to be sized relatively small. So, since the 
> level meters were technically off screen (not horizontally but vertically), 
> VoiceOver was seeing a reference to the level meters because, as we know, 
> VoiceOver sees all kinds of things that aren't really visible but, since the 
> meters weren't really visible, there was no activity to report, no actual 
> levels to speak of so no numbers to report. In a case like this, either a 
> page down or a zooming of the window fixes the problem. Creating sessions 
> from templates would probably be useful in avoiding this situation to begin 
> with but I'd sooner shoot myself than use templates. Frankly, if you receive 
> sessions from others, there's no guarantee that the windows are going to be 
> maximized and, chances are more likely than not, the windows are going to be 
> all over the place, depending upon people's preferences. It's a good idea to 
> get used to the possibility that a window's size might simply not be 
> maximized at any given point. Zooming is great but even zooming doesn't 
> necessarily guarantee that the window is going to truly be at its maximum 
> dimensions. For those who use Keyboard Maestro, there's a single workflow 
> item for tasks such as sizing the window. I set up a task to maximize the 
> window to its largest possible dimension and it works flawlessly. Worth 
> checking out if KM is part of your tool set.
> 
> Anyway, again, this whole level meter thing caught me off guard. As much as I 
> use Pro Tools, things like this rarely happen so, when they do, it sometimes 
> takes me by surprise and I'm reminded that others might experience head 
> scratchers like this perhaps more often than I might so I figured I'd share 
> this little reminder.
> 
> Slau
> 
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Re: pt 11 or 12

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi
Obvious place to do it is the Avid site

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> On 13 Sep 2015, at 15:43, Jørgen Skov Nielsen  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> Can anyone recommend a link, where i can buy a upgrade to my pt 11.
> Thanks in advance.
> Best regards
> Jørgen
> 
>> On 12 Sep 2015, at 00:39, TheOreoMonster  wrote:
>> 
>> go for the latest version of 12. 
>> 
>>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Jørgen Skov Nielsen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All
>>> I hope anyone can answer my question?
>>> Which version’s is the best PT 11 or PT 12 with VoiceOver.
>>> I will be glad, if anyone can help me.
>>> Best regards and thanks in advance
>>> Jørgen Skov Nielsen
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Appeal to members, before this group goes down the drain

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi all
Something slightly different and off topic if I may, though I feel this is 
quite important and sorry if the subject line seams a bit dramatic or strong.

Firstly let me say I’ve been a member of this great group for quite a few years 
now, but I’ve only really been a active reader and contributor the last few 
months since I have been really getting in to Pro-Tools and bought my own.

I don’t know who the founding father and moderator of this group is, though I 
suspect it’s Slau, and I hope this post sits well with him, please see it as 
sort of a recommendation or suggestion from my side, it’s not at all a attack 
on the group.

Especially in the last while there has been more and more off topic messages 
and threads on this group. Sometimes on topic and very useful topics goes 
totally off topic in the same message thread and sometimes totally off topic 
threads also include some useful bits. The end of this is that people must read 
through everything in order to make sure that they’re not missing any useful 
bits and this can be quite frustrating, especially if having to read through 10 
off topic messages just to find one single useful sentence somewhere in there.
I can also see this becoming more of a problem in future if someone works 
through the archives to find something specific, they would have to sift 
through pages of junk just to find useful technical info on Pro-Tools 
accessibility.

I am part of quite a few different Facebook groups, Google groups and forums on 
different topics and some just general chatter platforms. What I found was that 
most of these need some kind of moderation to keep things on topic and to keep 
posters in line, otherwise the entire group or forum just becomes a huge mine 
field with people having to dig through pages and pages of useless chatter just 
to find the important bits, in the end this also results in people leaving the 
forum or group because it totally degraded in to a platform for general chat 
and everything off topic.

I believe in order to keep this group the great source on Pro-Tools 
accessibility that it currently is, we as members should try keep this as on 
topic and as relevant as possible, there are plenty other forums all over the 
internet to discuss other things non Pro-Tools accessibility related. For 
example there is the Applevis website and forums for general Apple and 
Voiceover related topics, there’s also the Mac Visionaries Google group. There 
are tons of forums and resources all over the web on general audio and gear 
related topics, the same goes for other things you would want to discuss, 
ranging in anything from your dogs health to the International Space Station.

My suggestion is that we as members work together to keep this on topic, to 
continue building this group in to the great resource it is for current and 
future Voiceover and Pro-Tools users. There are lots of experts on here with 
years of knowledge, similarly there are lots of PT novices on here, there are 
lots of professionals on here and also lots who only do this for fun, let’s 
keep this on topic and keep learning from each other.

Nickus

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Re: Pro-Tools 12.2 update anounced

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi Nick
There will probably be a small type discount for upgrading from standard to HD, 
I say small because in the end the cost of HD ultimately sits in the hardware 
and not the software. The best people to talk to regarding upgrading to a HD 
system will be your local Pro-Tools dealer, they would be able to advise you 
best on all the options you have depending on the exact system you want.
Regarding your first question whether HD would be able to run on your Macbook, 
I suggest you check out the official list of supported machines on the Avid 
site, however if your standard PT runs on the machine I can’t see why HD won’t 
also run on it.

As already suggested, carefully consider all your options and your reasons for 
wanting HD, it might not be necessary. HD isn’t simply a nice to have, it’s 
expensive and with the new upgrade plans and stuff it will essentially cost you 
around $400 per year just to keep it going, if you are not using PT 
professionally, making money with it etc, then that will be pouring money in 
the water. In terms of software alone, HD doesn’t offer that much more features 
and functionality, the real power of HD sits in the DS`p processing which would 
only really be a advantage if you are working on sessions with large track 
counts where you have the need for lots of plug-ins etc.
HD is a big cash investment, and will be money waisted if you don’t really need 
it.
> On 04 Sep 2015, at 8:02 AM, Nick Gawronski <n...@nickgawronski.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi, I agree but is there any type of upgrade plan or would I have to buy Pro 
> Tools HD like new and other then features that have been talked about on this 
> list which I have been following are there other lists of features that are 
> in Pro Tools HD then the normal Pro Tools and as I am a student would I still 
> qualify for the educational discounts if I have Pro Tools HD?  Nick Gawronski
> 
> On 9/3/2015 8:01 PM, Steve Martin wrote:
>> It maybe worth investigating whether or not the added expense of HD would be 
>> worthwhile for your work first.
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 3:04 AM, Nick Gawronski <n...@nickgawronski.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Are these different plugins that we can download from our Avid accounts 
>>> for Pro Tools 12 as currently I did download all of the ones that were in 
>>> my Avid account?  Do they have any type of upgrade plans for users who 
>>> would like to upgrade to Pro Tools HD from normal Pro Tools and would HD be 
>>> able to run on a mac book Pro model late 2011 with a thunderbolt port and 
>>> the express card slot?  Nick Gawronski
>>> 
>>> On 9/2/2015 1:08 PM, Nickus de Vos wrote:
>>>> Hi all
>>>> The PT 12.2 update was anounced just a while ago on the Avid Webinar.
>>>> For people on venilla or standard Pro-Tools there are a couple of new
>>>> features previously only available for HD users, both venilla and HD
>>>> users will now get some plug-ins included free with a upgrade/support
>>>> plan. They also anounced price drops for all, it will now be cheaper
>>>> to upgrade to 12 from previous versions, it's also cheaper to stay
>>>> subscribed to a anual upgrade plan or upgrade/support plan. You'll
>>>> find all details on the Avid blog, all I can say for those who's still
>>>> on PT 11 or older versions, it will definatly be worth it to upgrade
>>>> to 12 before the end of this year 31 December 2015, upgrading before
>>>> 31 December will save you some extra cash.
>>>> 
>>>> Together with the accessibility improvements which Slau already posted
>>>> about the other day, I'm quite excited about the Disk Caching feature
>>>> also now available for venilla users. I'm definatly downloading and
>>>> installing this one as soon as it reaches my master account
>>>> 
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Re: new accessibility fixes in Pro Tools version 12

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi Slau,
So since the cat has been let out the bag, how does VCA masters in
12.2 work in terms of accessibility, any issues?

On 8/29/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:
> No, he wasn't.  I just wanted to be sure as today, I've seemed to be
> stepping on a lot of people's toes, go figure.  LOL!  Kind a one a those
> rotton days.  Oh well, on the plus side, there's always tomorrow to look
> forward to.
>
> Chris.
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Chris Smart
>   To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 3:56 PM
>   Subject: Re: new accessibility fixes in Pro Tools version 12
>
>
>   he doesn't seem offended at all.
>
>   At 10:50 AM 8/29/2015, you wrote:
>
> And again, I genuinely hope that you're not offended.  If you are, then
> I really am sorry.  No, really, seriously, I am.  I only was trying to
> ascertain what the deal was with that.  Thank you for better explaining.
>
> Chris.
>
> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn"
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:10 AM
> Subject: Re: new accessibility fixes in Pro Tools version 12
>
>
> Only testers have beta licenses and pre-release licenses on their
> iLoks.
> I revealed absolutely nothing about Pro Tools itself and spoke only of
> accessibility improvements so you needn't concern yourself with my NDA. I
> clear everything I reveal with the folks at Avid. Just wanted to show people
> in context rather than in a list of text.
>
> Slau
>
> On Aug 29, 2015, at 6:26 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
>  wrote:
>
>
>   Can we get the release candidate then, or is that something only you
> have since you're a beta tester?  If the ladder, then may I ask something
> with all due respect?  I don't mean to make this sound like I'm cutting you
> down. I'm actually asking this totally as an ignorant question.  I really
> truely may be failing to realize something, and if that is the case, then
> I'd first like to apologize directly to you even before I make this
> assumption.  If we cannot get the release candidate, should we choose to run
> it, then wouldn't it be safe to say since you privately have it, that you
> kind a broke NDA by showing us those accessibility improvements?
>
>   Again, I'm asking this more totally out of curiosity.  Believe me!  By
> no means is this a way to belittle, nor to chastise or put you down.  I
> truely do not know how this works, and am genuinely asking.  So I really
> hope that you don't take offense to this.  Yes, I trust you'd not break NDA,
> and I do know you better than that.  This is why I'm slightly shocked that
> you did show us this.  I thank you that you did, but I'm just wonderring.
>
>   Chris.
>
>   - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn"
> 
>   To: 
>   Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 7:57 AM
>   Subject: Re: new accessibility fixes in Pro Tools version 12
>
>
>   Avid hasn't indicated when it'll be released but it'll be soon.
>
>   Slau
>
>   On Aug 28, 2015, at 7:06 AM, John André Lium-Netland
>  wrote:
>
>
>
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Re: new accessibility fixes in Pro Tools version 12

[Nickus de Vos]

Slau, no I'm not on HD here, I was refering to VCA groups anounced for
users on standard 12.2, but I guess if they have been working fine in
HD accessibility wise, then it will also work in the standard version
as standard and HD is essentially the exact same software.

On 9/2/15, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
> None that I know of. They work in 11 as well. I've only used VCAs with a
> control surface but, if you're referring to the issue with grouped faders
> not having worked with VoiceOver, if it was, in fact, an issue in 11, it
> probably was fixed in 12.2 by virtue of the grouped faders being fixed. Are
> you using an HD system?
>
> Slau
>
> On Sep 2, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Nickus de Vos <bigboy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Slau,
>> So since the cat has been let out the bag, how does VCA masters in
>> 12.2 work in terms of accessibility, any issues?
>>
>> On 8/29/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> No, he wasn't.  I just wanted to be sure as today, I've seemed to be
>>> stepping on a lot of people's toes, go figure.  LOL!  Kind a one a those
>>> rotton days.  Oh well, on the plus side, there's always tomorrow to look
>>> forward to.
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>>  - Original Message -
>>>  From: Chris Smart
>>>  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>  Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 3:56 PM
>>>  Subject: Re: new accessibility fixes in Pro Tools version 12
>>>
>>>
>>>  he doesn't seem offended at all.
>>>
>>>  At 10:50 AM 8/29/2015, you wrote:
>>>
>>>And again, I genuinely hope that you're not offended.  If you are,
>>> then
>>> I really am sorry.  No, really, seriously, I am.  I only was trying to
>>> ascertain what the deal was with that.  Thank you for better explaining.
>>>
>>>Chris.
>>>
>>>- Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn"
>>> <slauhala...@gmail.com>
>>>To: <ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
>>>Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:10 AM
>>>Subject: Re: new accessibility fixes in Pro Tools version 12
>>>
>>>
>>>Only testers have beta licenses and pre-release licenses on their
>>> iLoks.
>>>I revealed absolutely nothing about Pro Tools itself and spoke only
>>> of
>>> accessibility improvements so you needn't concern yourself with my NDA.
>>> I
>>> clear everything I reveal with the folks at Avid. Just wanted to show
>>> people
>>> in context rather than in a list of text.
>>>
>>>Slau
>>>
>>>On Aug 29, 2015, at 6:26 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  Can we get the release candidate then, or is that something only
>>> you
>>> have since you're a beta tester?  If the ladder, then may I ask
>>> something
>>> with all due respect?  I don't mean to make this sound like I'm cutting
>>> you
>>> down. I'm actually asking this totally as an ignorant question.  I
>>> really
>>> truely may be failing to realize something, and if that is the case,
>>> then
>>> I'd first like to apologize directly to you even before I make this
>>> assumption.  If we cannot get the release candidate, should we choose to
>>> run
>>> it, then wouldn't it be safe to say since you privately have it, that
>>> you
>>> kind a broke NDA by showing us those accessibility improvements?
>>>
>>>  Again, I'm asking this more totally out of curiosity.  Believe me!
>>> By
>>> no means is this a way to belittle, nor to chastise or put you down.  I
>>> truely do not know how this works, and am genuinely asking.  So I really
>>> hope that you don't take offense to this.  Yes, I trust you'd not break
>>> NDA,
>>> and I do know you better than that.  This is why I'm slightly shocked
>>> that
>>> you did show us this.  I thank you that you did, but I'm just
>>> wonderring.
>>>
>>>  Chris.
>>>
>>>  - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn"
>>> <slauhala...@gmail.com>
>>>  To: <ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
>>>  Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 7:57 AM
>>>  Subject: Re: new accessibility fixes in Pro Tools version 12
>>>
>>>
>>>  Avid hasn't indicated when it'll be released but it'll be soon.
>>>
>>

Pro-Tools 12.2 update anounced

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi all
The PT 12.2 update was anounced just a while ago on the Avid Webinar.
For people on venilla or standard Pro-Tools there are a couple of new
features previously only available for HD users, both venilla and HD
users will now get some plug-ins included free with a upgrade/support
plan. They also anounced price drops for all, it will now be cheaper
to upgrade to 12 from previous versions, it's also cheaper to stay
subscribed to a anual upgrade plan or upgrade/support plan. You'll
find all details on the Avid blog, all I can say for those who's still
on PT 11 or older versions, it will definatly be worth it to upgrade
to 12 before the end of this year 31 December 2015, upgrading before
31 December will save you some extra cash.

Together with the accessibility improvements which Slau already posted
about the other day, I'm quite excited about the Disk Caching feature
also now available for venilla users. I'm definatly downloading and
installing this one as soon as it reaches my master account

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Re: new accessibility fixes in Pro Tools version 12

[Nickus de Vos]

Slau, the last time you said that you don't know when but it will be soon, the 
update was released the very next day, haha. 
I skipped version 12.1 even though I downloaded it when it was released, so I'm 
pritty keen on this update. 

Slau once again thanks for your dedication and efforts. 

Nickus

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 On 28 Aug 2015, at 13:57, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Avid hasn't indicated when it'll be released but it'll be soon.
 
 Slau
 
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Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi Slau
Thanks for the quick reply and the very good summery. I certainly had my fair 
share of issues with mouse clicking in the past and 90% of the time I don’t get 
the click with the first try. It certainly sounds as if a trackpad would be 
helpful in some situations and maybe I should just take the plunge and get one.
Thanks again, if you can think of anything else to add, please do.

Nickus
 On 24 Aug 2015, at 6:13 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Nickus,
 
 The advantage of a track pad is that, when you go to perform a click, all you 
 have to do is touch the surface anywhere on the track pad and you'll be 
 successful. the problem with the mouse is that, when you go to touch it, you 
 might accidentally move the mouse before clicking. It's not reliable enough. 
 Yes, it works in a pinch but I personally couldn't live with that day in and 
 day out. The track pad is stationary and large. It won't move when you get 
 your bearings and it doesn't move after you've pressed it. To me, it's more 
 reliable and consistent. Since its active range is fixed in a physical 
 dimension, it's possible to touch a specific point and move the focus to that 
 area of the screen more reliably than having to move a mouse which is only 
 relative to the mouse's travel rather than an actual physical point. I tend 
 not to use the track pad for those purposes but it's certainly possible to 
 use it that way and some folks might find that really helpful. For example, 
 in the Mix window, you can touch, say, the right side of the track pad and 
 you'll hear the names of tracks that appear toward the right side of the Mix 
 window. Rather than starting from the left with voiceOver and moving through 
 all of the tracks, the track pad allows you to more quickly focus on that 
 right side area to begin with. Once you've located the track, you can then 
 pick up with keyboard commands. The same holds true for other windows. Again, 
 I typically don't use it that way but it's entirely possible and others might 
 prefer that method.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Slau
 
 On Aug 24, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Nickus de Vos bigboy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all
 I was just wondering about a track pad yesterday. How useful is a trackpad 
 in terms of use with PT? Are there a lot of advantages, ways to do things 
 quicker, nice commands etc we can use in a typical PT workflow? basically, 
 would you say it would be worth for me to buy a trackpad to use with my iMac 
 and Pro-Tools? For some reason back when buying my iMac they didn’t want to 
 give me the option here in SA to take a trackpad with my iMac rather than 
 the wireless mouse.
 
 Nickus
 On 24 Aug 2015, at 3:42 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, Track Pad Commander takes over the functionality so you can't do 
 regular mouse clicks with that mode enabled. Glad you figured it out.
 
 Slau
 
 On Aug 24, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart m...@cakewalker.de 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Slau!
 
 Disabling the trackpad support in the VoiceOver utility make everything 
 work again.
 My fault was that I tried it in the edit window.
 
 Thank you and have a nice day! / Martin
 
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Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi all
I was just wondering about a track pad yesterday. How useful is a trackpad in 
terms of use with PT? Are there a lot of advantages, ways to do things quicker, 
nice commands etc we can use in a typical PT workflow? basically, would you say 
it would be worth for me to buy a trackpad to use with my iMac and Pro-Tools? 
For some reason back when buying my iMac they didn’t want to give me the option 
here in SA to take a trackpad with my iMac rather than the wireless mouse.

Nickus
 On 24 Aug 2015, at 3:42 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, Track Pad Commander takes over the functionality so you can't do regular 
 mouse clicks with that mode enabled. Glad you figured it out.
 
 Slau
 
 On Aug 24, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart m...@cakewalker.de wrote:
 
 Hello Slau!
 
 Disabling the trackpad support in the VoiceOver utility make everything work 
 again.
 My fault was that I tried it in the edit window.
 
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Re: Obtaining Pro Tools | First

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi Robin
I tend to agree with Slau, I don't think PT First will quite give you
the big picture, in fact I think it will give you a bad picture, not
only in terms of accessibility but also in terms of what Pro-Tools
offer overall. In my opinion First is kind of a fail on the part of
Avid, it could have been so much better and straight forward without
them nececeraly including more features, but I'm sure in time they
will learn and improve it.
I might be wrong but I anyway think people must still wait to get
their Pro-Tools First so you won't be able to download it right away
even if you sign up, you'll have to apply for it and wait your turn
which in my opinion is also a fail on the part of Avid.

In my opinion your first step must be to buy a iLok if you don't
already have one, then you can ither try the 30 day demo of Pro-Tools
as far as I know they still offer a demo, alternativly you can also
buy/rent Pro-Tools for a month to try it out, since version 12 they
offer a per month purchase option.
If you just want to get a idea of the accessibility of PT before even
trying it and if you want to see what can be done, then I suggest you
buy the Pro-Tools with speach tutorials, they are great and will give
you a very good idea of the accessibility and what you'll be able to
do with PT.

Nickus
On 8/22/15, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Robin,

 If I'm not mistaken, Avid has operators that can help in processes such as
 this. I've had to do that once a few years ago and I think several others on
 the list have had such assistance. I think the phone number is either
 650-731-6100 or 6500, I don't recall.

 On a different note, I'm not so sure that the Pro Tools First experience is
 going to be representative of what Pro Tools truly has to offer in terms of
 accessibility. While Pro Tools First is certainly similar and based on the
 regular Pro Tools, there are a few things that are different and I don't
 think your experience would be particularly impressive. I tried the beta
 late last year and there were a few fundamental problems. Avid has certainly
 indicated that the intention is to make sure Pro Tools First is accessible
 but, from a non-accessibility-related perspective, Pro Tools First, in my
 opinion, is a flawed concept. It's far too limited and anyone serious about
 audio will quickly feel its limitations. I'd sooner try to find some of the
 audio tutorials that are out there to get a sense of what's possible and how
 things work. There has been an enormous amount of progress on the
 accessibility front in Pro Tools that we're about to witness and I think
 that, ultimately, the way to go is the full version of Pro Tools. My two
 cents.

 Slau

 On Aug 22, 2015, at 9:07 AM, Robin Kipp mli...@robin-kipp.net wrote:

 Hello all!
 I’d like to dive into Pro Tools and get a taste of what I can do with it
 using the free Pro Tools | First edition. I just went to the Avid Pro
 Tools site and found all the details / descriptions related to Pro Tools |
 First. As far as I understand, in order to download the software one has
 to create an ‚Avid Master‘ account. So far so good, however unfortunately
 the website where one can sign up for such an account uses a nasty captcha
 image… I was pretty disappointed when I saw that, especially since no
 audio alternative appears to be available… Luckily, however, sighted help
 was not far so I could ask for help with entering the digits.
 Unfortunately, after clicking the ‚Submit‘ button, I was presented with
 the message that ‚the code you entered is incorrect‘. Mistakes can always
 happen, so we tried again… And again… And again… After about 5 attempts,
 we gave up. My sighted partner assured me that, although the digits were
 quite hard to read, she was 100% sure that she got them right. I’m sure
 that she’s absolutely right and that, most likely, I’m stuck due to a
 problem with the registration website… So that made me wonder, has anyone
 else on here tried registering for an Avid Master account? Did you
 experience the same issues, or did the registration process go through
 smoothly (except for the captcha, of course)? Is there perhaps another,
 easier way of downloading Pro Tools | First? The registration experience
 has been quite frustrating so far, so I sure hope that there’s another
 solution to this problem! :-)
 Thanks a lot for any help and advice and all the best,
 Robin

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Re: upgrading from pro tools 10.3.1 to pro tools 10.3.5 please help!! kind regards trey.

[Nickus de Vos]

If you upgrade to 12 you anyway get a 11 licence as well, so you would still be 
able to go back to 11 for whatever reason. As already mentioned 12 is fully 
accessible so it's a no brainer, plus 12.1 actually got some extra features 
which was previously HD only. 

Sent from my iPhone

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 wrote:
 
 Really, there isn't a specific reason.  11 certainly would work, don't get me 
 wrong, but why go to an older version, when v12 is perfectly accessible with 
 really no modifications needed.  My argument is, I'd want to stay as up to 
 date as possible, as long as it didn't break accessibility, which v12 
 certainly doesn't.
 
 Chris.
 
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 Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 5:25 PM
 Subject: Re: upgrading from pro tools 10.3.1 to pro tools 10.3.5 please 
 help!! kind regards trey.
 
 
 hey cool thanks for the help :) why should i get PT12 instead of PT11?
 
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Re: Anyone updated to 12.1

[Nickus de Vos]

Shawn, what OS version are you running? I'm also still very new to PT and 
fortunately i don't rely on PT to do my work yet, so little issues won't be a 
train smash. 

Nickus
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 On 08 Jul 2015, at 14:00, Shawn Brock sh...@shawnbrock.com wrote:
 
 I don't know how much my opinion is worth on the subject, as I am somewhat of 
 a new user to ProTools. However, my experience in 12.1 is that the track 
 meters are somewhat on reliable. Also I kept running into an issue where 
 command space would not record. And yes, I do have the spotlight shortcut 
 disabled... Also for some reason the arm status of a track seems to be 
 somewhat shaky when the track is viewed in the mix window. 
 
 I could be off on my assessments, as I have only been using 12.1 for about a 
 week. However, a studio i frequently work in still has part 12 running and I 
 did not notice these problems when I was over there. Don't get me wrong, it 
 is not a dealbreaker or the worst thing you will ever have to deal with, but 
 it is slightly annoying. 
 
 HTH
 Shawn  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 8, 2015, at 6:30 AM, Nickus de Vos bigboy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 Have anyone updated to PT 12.1 yet? I downloaded it but before I install I 
 just want to be sure that nothing broke in terms of accessibility. I'm 
 running the latest Mac OS 
 
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Re: pro tools installation question

[Nickus de Vos]

I knew a long time ago that the iLok manager app isn't accessible, but
with the introduction of PT12 a new aditional activation process was
mentioned, Slau also wrote about it and that it's also not accessible
just like the iLok app. But as I said I didn't have the aditional
activation when I launched PT12 for the first time, so I don't know if
I was just lucky or maybe Avid dropped it again in the meenwhile.

Nickus

On 5/23/15, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 the iLk is the activation process. Transferring the license to the iLk isn’t
 accessible with voiceover at last check. PT 12 comes with a combo license to
 use PT10 and 11 as well. If you bought PT11 after a centime you would of
 gotten the plan that includes  any upgrades put to the end of 2015. So that
 would explain why some found PT 12 in their avid account.
 On May 21, 2015, at 10:23 AM, Nickus de Vos bigboy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 Reviving this old thred to share my experience.
 I planned to buy my first ever PT, 11 at that stage but then 12
 launched just 2 days before I placed the order with our dealer in
 South Africa, so eventually I ordered 12. Avid had no stock of
 perpetual licence packs so turned out I only got my PT12 yesterday
 after a months wait.

 So after creating a Avid account, iLok account, downloading PT12 and
 transfering the licence to my iLok, I did the installation. When
 launching PT for the first time there wasn't any aditional activation
 ssteps as mentioned here by Slau and elseware by other people, so I
 don't know if they dropped it again or what the case is.

 P.S. In my Avid account I also noticed that I have licences for PT 10,
 11 and 12 though I know 11 and 12 can't be installed on the same
 drive, but I doubt I'll need 10 or 11 for anything.

 Nickus


 On 3/24/15, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Brian,

 The installation itself is accessible via the installer application.
 What
 isn't accessible yet is the activation. You'll need your activation
 code,
 your iLok user name  password as well as your Avid master account user
 name
 and password. Once you set up those things, you probably won't have to
 enter
 the user name and passwords again for a long time or at least until you
 need
 to authorize a third-party plug-in.

 HTH,

 Slau

 On Mar 24, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Mac Egbert vano...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Bryan,
 maybe you find this a bit rude, but, why don't you try it first? When
 things don't work, no harm done I think.
 In my opinion it is a much better feeling and result when you do
 something
 on your own, instead of asking help in advance. have fun,
 Mac



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 het
 volgende geschreven:

 Hello all,
 I am going to be doing a fresh installation of pro tools on my mac.  I
 purchased pro tools 12 yesterday.  I guess my questions is, what parts
 of
 the installation process can I do without sighted assistance, and
 which
 parts will I need sighted assistance for?  I purchased the software
 from
 sweet water, so I got an email with my activation code for pro tools
 and
 installation instructions.  Thanks for the help,
 Brian

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Re: pro tools installation question

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi
Reviving this old thred to share my experience.
I planned to buy my first ever PT, 11 at that stage but then 12
launched just 2 days before I placed the order with our dealer in
South Africa, so eventually I ordered 12. Avid had no stock of
perpetual licence packs so turned out I only got my PT12 yesterday
after a months wait.

So after creating a Avid account, iLok account, downloading PT12 and
transfering the licence to my iLok, I did the installation. When
launching PT for the first time there wasn't any aditional activation
ssteps as mentioned here by Slau and elseware by other people, so I
don't know if they dropped it again or what the case is.

P.S. In my Avid account I also noticed that I have licences for PT 10,
11 and 12 though I know 11 and 12 can't be installed on the same
drive, but I doubt I'll need 10 or 11 for anything.

Nickus


On 3/24/15, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Brian,

 The installation itself is accessible via the installer application. What
 isn't accessible yet is the activation. You'll need your activation code,
 your iLok user name  password as well as your Avid master account user name
 and password. Once you set up those things, you probably won't have to enter
 the user name and passwords again for a long time or at least until you need
 to authorize a third-party plug-in.

 HTH,

 Slau

 On Mar 24, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Mac Egbert vano...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Bryan,
 maybe you find this a bit rude, but, why don't you try it first? When
 things don't work, no harm done I think.
 In my opinion it is a much better feeling and result when you do something
 on your own, instead of asking help in advance. have fun,
 Mac



 Op 24 mrt. 2015 om 16:33 heeft Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com het
 volgende geschreven:

 Hello all,
 I am going to be doing a fresh installation of pro tools on my mac.  I
 purchased pro tools 12 yesterday.  I guess my questions is, what parts of
 the installation process can I do without sighted assistance, and which
 parts will I need sighted assistance for?  I purchased the software from
 sweet water, so I got an email with my activation code for pro tools and
 installation instructions.  Thanks for the help,
 Brian

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Re: Can an M-Audio Mbox be used as a sound card for other daws?

[Nickus de Vos]

Never personally did it, but yes you can use Mbox and other Avid hardware 
interfaces with other DAWs. Any PT spesific features will obviously not work, 
but your normal stuff like inputs and outputs will be working as normal. 

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 On 16 May 2015, at 09:33, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 
 Hi just a little question: If i want to try another DAW and don’t have a 
 fancy sound card handy, can i use the MBox i got when i bought Pro tools 9 
 back in the day or is it sorta taylor made for that particular brand of DAW? 
 If so, has anyone tried using say a Zoom H6 for a sound card? I guess one 
 shouldn’t do that but my budget doesn’t allow for fancy sound cards like 
 FocusWrite or such, so that’s why i ask.
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Accessible loudness plug-ins

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi all
Are there anyone who are using or have tried any loudness plug-ins and 
found accessible ones? From what I understand most loudness plug-ins are 
very visual to offer users a quick overview of what's happening with their 
sound and we will probably not be able to use half of the functionality of 
some of these type plug-ins, but it will be very handy even if only basic 
functions is accessible. There's a good chance that I will start doing some 
braudcast stuff in the next month or 2, so I'll have to start looking in to 
it.

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Re: Accessible loudness plug-ins

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi
Yes what i ment was loudness meetering, Chris thanks for posting the link, guys 
go read it then you'll see what it's about. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On 17 Apr 2015, at 07:07, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks, will have to become a little more informed on the subject I see. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Chris Smart
 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:44 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Accessible loudness plug-ins
 
 He's asking about metering plugins to help meet these standards:
 http://www.tcelectronic.com/loudness/broadcast-standards/
 
 Chris
 
 At 12:30 AM 4/17/2015, you wrote:
 I like the Waves L2 myself.
 
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sparrow
 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 2:01 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessible loudness plug-ins
 
 Hi. are you looking for a plug to push the levels of your finished mix 
 up a little. If so.
 i use the waves l 3 plugging. I’ve used it under windows for years. 
 I’ve just started using it on the mac. But mainly in two track 
 editing applications like twisted wave, and sound forge for mac.
 
 i’ve noticed that the parameters are not accessible in this way. but 
 all the presets are accessible. so  i got some sighted assistance to 
 save some presets.
 
 Having said that, all the parameters should be accessible in p t.
 if you insert it over a master fader.
 h t h
 
 hteve
 
 sOn 17 Apr 2015, at 4:55 am, Nickus de Vos 
 mailto:bigboy...@gmail.combigboy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all
 Are there anyone who are using or have tried any loudness plug-ins and 
 found accessible ones?
 From what I understand most loudness plug-ins are very visual to offer 
 users a quick overview of what's happening with their sound and we will 
 probably not be able to use half of the functionality of some of these 
 type plug-ins, but it will be very handy even if only basic functions 
 is accessible. There's a good chance that I will start doing some 
 braudcast stuff in the next month or 2, so I'll have to start looking 
 in to it.
 
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Re: The sorting tracks saga continues!

[Nickus de Vos]

You probably misunderstood, his questions is not anoying, him trying
to get help is not anoying, the reason we all are here is to get help
and learn from another.

What I was saying is to please keep discussions on a certain thing all
in one thred so that it's all together for easy reference in future,
it's not nececery to create a entire new thred about the same thing
continueing your questions every 3 days.
Stick to the same thred, ask your questions again, give a update on
the situation or whatever, but don't create a new thred just to give a
update or continue with more questions on the exact same topic.

On 4/8/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 And, do you realize you're only adding to the in your word... annoyance?
 Knockit off!  Brian's just trying to get some help.

 Chris.


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 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Nickus de Vos
 Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 3:19 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: The sorting tracks saga continues!

 Dude, could you please stop creating multiple threds to try and solve
 the same problem or discuss the same thing? I thinkthis is your third
 thred on moving tracks and you did the exact same thing with previous
 topics.
 Do you know what nightmare this will be for future users of this group
 or people searching for a certain topic in a few months time, bits of
 info scattered all over the place?

 I'm sure it's not just me, this is getting very anoying.

 On 4/8/15, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all,
 Still trying to figure out my delima with sorting tracks.  Here is what I
 have attempted to do this afternoon, and here is what happened just about
 2
 minutes ago when I tried this.  So I am working with the same audio
 tracks
 that I am trying to import, I decided to just start by importing the
 drums,
 and I was going to try to get those sorted in the order that I want to
 use
 them.  Here is what I did.
 1.  I created a click track in a new session, and set my tempo to the
 tempo
 of the song.  I also created a master fader before starting the import
 process.
 2. I imported all the drum tracks, which consisted of 7 tracks.
 3. I interacted with the track list table, and deselected all of the
 tracks
 that I just imported.
 4. I went to my kick track, selected it with vo space, did the mouse down
 command, went to where I wanted to place the kick track, and did a mouse
 up.
  The kick moved to where I wanted it to go.
 5. I went and found the snare track, I selected that track, did a mouse
 down, went to where I wanted to place the snare track, did the mouse up
 command, and that time it did not work.  So this is where I am now, one
 time
 it worked, for the next track it didn't work.  Seems a little
 inconsistent
 for me.  Can't figure out why it worked for one track but not for
 another.
 I thought maybe starting with less tracks in the session would make this
 work, and then I would import more tracks in after getting the drums
 sorted
 the way I like to see them in a session.  Doing the alternative way of
 doing
 this where you interact with the track channel strip of the track where
 you
 want to move and then go down to the track name and then do a mouse down
 on
 that, stop interacting with that track and go to the track where I want
 to
 move that track to, interact with that channel strip and go down to the
 track name and do a mouse up on that, that doesn't work for me at all.
 Really need help.  Just seems very inconsistent for me.  Thanks for any
 help,
 Brian

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Re: The sorting tracks saga continues!

[Nickus de Vos]

Dude, could you please stop creating multiple threds to try and solve
the same problem or discuss the same thing? I thinkthis is your third
thred on moving tracks and you did the exact same thing with previous
topics.
Do you know what nightmare this will be for future users of this group
or people searching for a certain topic in a few months time, bits of
info scattered all over the place?

I'm sure it's not just me, this is getting very anoying.

On 4/8/15, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all,
 Still trying to figure out my delima with sorting tracks.  Here is what I
 have attempted to do this afternoon, and here is what happened just about 2
 minutes ago when I tried this.  So I am working with the same audio tracks
 that I am trying to import, I decided to just start by importing the drums,
 and I was going to try to get those sorted in the order that I want to use
 them.  Here is what I did.
 1.  I created a click track in a new session, and set my tempo to the tempo
 of the song.  I also created a master fader before starting the import
 process.
 2. I imported all the drum tracks, which consisted of 7 tracks.
 3. I interacted with the track list table, and deselected all of the tracks
 that I just imported.
 4. I went to my kick track, selected it with vo space, did the mouse down
 command, went to where I wanted to place the kick track, and did a mouse up.
  The kick moved to where I wanted it to go.
 5. I went and found the snare track, I selected that track, did a mouse
 down, went to where I wanted to place the snare track, did the mouse up
 command, and that time it did not work.  So this is where I am now, one time
 it worked, for the next track it didn’t work.  Seems a little inconsistent
 for me.  Can’t figure out why it worked for one track but not for another.
 I thought maybe starting with less tracks in the session would make this
 work, and then I would import more tracks in after getting the drums sorted
 the way I like to see them in a session.  Doing the alternative way of doing
 this where you interact with the track channel strip of the track where you
 want to move and then go down to the track name and then do a mouse down on
 that, stop interacting with that track and go to the track where I want to
 move that track to, interact with that channel strip and go down to the
 track name and do a mouse up on that, that doesn’t work for me at all.
 Really need help.  Just seems very inconsistent for me.  Thanks for any
 help,
 Brian

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Re: CPU error message

[Nickus de Vos]

No offence but this has nothing to do with accessibility and you
already did research on it, also found answers, so why post it here?
Did you try searching for a solution or asking the same question on
the DUC? You are more likely to find a answer for this over there,
there are 100s of PT users.

On 4/2/15, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all,
 I am working with a project that has 10 tracks, and no plugins on the
 session.  I keep getting the following error message:

 Pro Tools ran out of CPU power. Try de-activating or removing Native
 plug-ins.  (AAE -9173) text
 This cannot be possible because I have a mac book pro with a 2.9 I7 quad
 core processor with 8G of ram.  Anybody else getting this error message and
 is there anything I can do to stop this from happening all the time?  I did
 some research on this, and apparently this is a bug that started in pro
 tools 11.2.  Apparently this has nothing to do with CPU power.  I am running
 pro tools 12.0.  Thanks for the help,
 Brian

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Re: Control Surface Recommendations

[Nickus de Vos]

Not quite a control serfice but almost, any of you using or used a
Hotkey Matrix before?

As I understand it's basically a keyboard and all keys have dedicated
functions in PT, so there's no key with 2 or more functions by using
modifier keys etc. I'm just wondering if it will be useful and whether
it will be possible to memorise the layout of all keys.

On 3/25/15, Mac Egbert vano...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Slau,
 for as far as I can see, other services use the same protocols as the once
 from Avid.
 I searched for this in the manual, and automation is taken care of, also for
 plugin parameters.
 I will test this Myself soonly. If it works as good as the avid controlers,
 I let you know. The money aspect might be interesting. And why spend more
 then is needed? the idea of having an Avid device does not arouse me one
 bit. i wanna have a good and working controler.
 if thats a QCon pro, its fine by me. I let you know what my findings are.
 Maybe others can have some advantige of this to.And if it might be so, that
 this controlservice has any problems, I for sure will tell here.
 it is a fairly new product and has al the protocols, needed to work fine
 with Protools.
 Mac



 Op 25 mrt. 2015 om 22:17 heeft Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com het
 volgende geschreven:

 As mentioned earlier, the best integration with Pro Tools is with the Avid
 surfaces. Other surfaces use HUI emulation which, although it works, is
 not the greatest. Further, taking a look at what U.s. retailers carry is a
 good way to gauge the market.

 Slau

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Re: What mac would you use when working in PT?

[Nickus de Vos]

It all depends on what you plan to do with PT.
Will you be recording a lot of tracks at once then mix using a lot of
plug-ins? Will you use a lot of virtual instruments?

Depending on what you want to do in PT you'll find that it's probably
not nececery to get a very powerfull machine, unless you have the
money to burn anyway then go all out.

If you have the 7000 Euros to spend on your rig then you might even
consider going with HDX hardware and a much smaller/less powerfull
Mac, but again all depends on what you want to use your rig for in the
end.

On 3/31/15, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Avid has a compatibility chart on their side and thats probably the place to
 get answers to this question. That being said general rules of thumb Pretty
 much any modern stock mack will get the job done minus maybe the air’s or
 least expensive mac mini. Processor wise i’d get an i7 if you can  and
 definitely max out ram. Get an SSD. 128GB will be fine as your boot drive
 Since you will be using a second drive for Pro Tools Sessions anyways. And
 last i looked fusion drives weren’t qualified for Pro Tools use vy Avid
 (consult the aforementioned compatibility list) so avoid those at the
 moment.

 On Mar 29, 2015, at 4:49 PM, Mac Egbert vano...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I am in the  research mode for buying proTools and a computer for that
 purpose alone.
 My first thoghts went to a Mac pro 6 core with 32 gig  internal memory.
 The whole configuration would cost more then 7000 euro's.
 now I find the newest iMac. In its largest configuration it comes close to
 the standard mac Pro.
 So my question is, with a five year vision in mind, the constand use of
 VoiceOver, and protools 12 with the abilaty of working with video also,
 could the newest iMac 5K in its largest configuration (I7 quat core, 4.1
 gig and 32 gig intern memory) do the job, or could I better invest in one
 of  the heavyyer  Mac Pro's?
 thx,
 Mac

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Re: Pro-tools 12 just released

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Firstly, my local dealer just confirmed to me that Avid will switch
PT11 users with support plans over to PT12 licences over the next
couple of days. He also confirmed that whether I baught PT11 last week
and whether I buy today or tomorrow, I'll be getting a 12 licence. So
I'm buying my first Pro-tools today, and by the looks of it, it will
be 12.

From what I see on the Avid site and other websites, PT12 actually
have no new major features right away, all of the major feature
changes and new things will only come in future. So for those people
who's not on a support plan who can't get the update for free, if you
pay the $199 for a upgrade now, you won't really get something for it.

If I was in the shoes of someone not on a support plan who will have
to pay $199 for the upgrade, I would have waited till the actual new
feetures come out to see what it's all about and if I really need
those new feetures.


On 3/24/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 So then... is there any point in the first place in upgrading then?

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   Subject: Re: Pro-tools 12 just released


   There aren't any excess ability changes  from ProTools 11 to 12.
   Chris

   Sent from my iPhone

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 I wonder if the accessibility is worth the upgrade?

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   Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:08 PM
   Subject: Pro-tools 12 just released


   Hi all
   Just saw that Avid released PT12
 http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2015/3/23/pro-tools-12-goes-on-sale-in-the-avid-store.html?utm_source=dlvr.itutm_medium=twitter


   I was about to buy PT11 tomorrow, so guess I'll wait a bit.

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Re: Pro-tools 12 just released

[Nickus de Vos]

Yes, from what Slau said in a different post it sounded like there's
nothing new in terms of accessibility in 12 right now, I also hope
nothing is broken.

I'm not 100% on this yet, but from what I could find out so far it
looks like upgrading from 11 to 12 will cost $199.
So now I'm just wondering, if I baught PT11 a month or so ago, what
would have happend, what about the entire all updates free for the
year of your support plan thing? I would have kicked myself if I
baught PT11 just a week ago but luckally some things got in the way,
I'll get clarity on upgrading from 11 to 12 and whether it might be
free, then I'll decide whether to buy now or wait a bit longer.

On 3/23/15, Chris Harrington charringt...@gmail.com wrote:
 There aren't any excess ability changes  from ProTools 11 to 12.
 Chris

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wonder if the accessibility is worth the upgrade?

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 Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:08 PM
 Subject: Pro-tools 12 just released

 Hi all
 Just saw that Avid released PT12
 http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2015/3/23/pro-tools-12-goes-on-sale-in-the-avid-store.html?utm_source=dlvr.itutm_medium=twitter

 I was about to buy PT11 tomorrow, so guess I'll wait a bit.
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Re: a word about Pro Tools 12

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi Slau
So just to be clear, in terms of accessibility, nothing really new in
12 but also nothing broken?

On 3/22/15, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm not going to be breaking any NDA by saying this and, besides, it's no
 secret that Pro Tools 12 will be coming out soon, like, maybe even tomorrow.
 Please be aware that there is essentially nothing different about its
 accessibility. There's a newly designed I/O Setup but, to a VoiceOver user,
 it appears much the same. If anything, there are a few extra controls.

 The authorization aspect of Pro Tools will be changing and it's unclear
 whether this will change right from this new release or whether it'll be
 incorporated over time but it won't be any more accessible than standard
 iLok authorization for now. Be assured, however, that it will be made
 accessible. More info to come as it becomes clearer.

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Pro-tools 12 just released

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi all
Just saw that Avid released PT12 
http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2015/3/23/pro-tools-12-goes-on-sale-in-the-avid-store.html?utm_source=dlvr.itutm_medium=twitter

I was about to buy PT11 tomorrow, so guess I'll wait a bit.

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Re: Pro Tools 11 status

[Nickus de Vos]

Nick, As far as we all understand right now upgrading to 11 will still
allow you to keep your 10 licence and run it on the same machine.
Whether it will be seprit licences which would allow you to run 10 on
1 partition and 11 on another I'm not sure, guess we will get clarity
closer to the time. On the upgrade discs, think there's a option to
ask Avid to ship you a disc obviously for a little extra money. I'm
not sure how your guitar centres in the US work and how they do their
pricing, but here in SA if you dealed with a retailer in the past and
built some kind of relationship with them, they will most probably
install the software for you or even just sell you a disc at a very
small price and then you just update your licence online. It's after
all about the licence on the iLock and not about the disc.

Nick Gawronski wrote:
 Hi, One question about pro tools upgrades for those of us who bought the
 voxed copy and did not create an account with Avid but did fill out the
 registration form how do we upgrade and is there a way to have both pro
 tools 10 and 11 licenses on one ilok so I could have 10 on my lion
 partition and 11 on my mountain lion as I would not mind buying the
 upgrade if in lets say 11.01 accessibility is improved?  Also, on upgrades
 can we choose to have discs shipped to us or is it just a download?  Would
 going to the Guitar Center where I got pro tools 10 be able to sell me 11
 at the upgraded price?  Nick Gawronski
 On Wed, April 10, 2013 9:05 am, Chris wrote:
  Has anyone tried using VoiceOver's simulated mouse clicks with it? It
  works with the popup menus in the plugin windows under mountain lion,
  maybe it works with the new broken store as well. Be aware though, that
  inn those menus, only VoiceOver and the arrow keys work, not just the
  arrow keys.
 
  HTH,
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On 10 Apr 2013, at 13:55, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Let's put it this way: nothing that wasn't accessible before is now
  suddenly accessible. It's really just the same as with Mountain Lion but
  with some broken pop-up menus.
 
  Slau
 
  On Apr 10, 2013, at 7:00 AM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
 
  Ar you able to say anything on the workspace window, from reports i
  have seen, its completely redone and i hope more accessible as someone
  who relies on loops in his productions. PT doesn't make it easy to work
  with loops in any other way.
 
  On Apr 10, 2013, at 2:32 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Yeah, I just hope it's not one of those bundle licenses like with 10
  where you had to give up your previous license for 9 to get a bundle
  9/10 license. we'll see�
 
  Slau
 
  On Apr 9, 2013, at 8:11 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote:
 
  Slau, so far I only heard that it will work on Mountain Lion but if
  it
  still works on Lion it will be cool. Just a update on my earlyer post
  on buying Pro Tools 10 now and getting free update to 11 once it
  comes
  out. I've just listened to a audio interview with 1 of the Avid
  product specialists, he said if you buy 11 you will also get a
  licence
  for 10 so you can install both on your system. He says this is to
  make
  the transition as painless as possible for the users. So I guess
  whether you buy 10 now and upgrade to 11 for free, or whether you buy
  11 later once it's out and get a 10 licence, you'll still be able to
  run both on your machine.
 
  Slau Halatyn wrote:
  The ability to keep both on the same partition is definitely a plus.
  I wish they had accommodated that with versions 9 and 10. There's
  another detail that's still not clear. Originally, it was said that
  11 would only work with Mountain Lion. I've been hearing reports
  that it'll still be compatible with Lion. That'll also be a
  consideration for some.
 
  Slau
 
  On Apr 9, 2013, at 5:27 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote:
 
  Slau, as already mentioned to you luckally it's possible to install
  11
  and still run 10 on the same machine. I think this will make the
  upgrade disision easyer for us as we can try 11 but still use 10.
  For
  those not owning Pro Tools yet who has been contemplating the buy,
  now
  is the time to do so before 11 gets released. If you buy 10 now
  your
  upgrade to 11 will be free.
 
  Slau once again many thanks for all your efforts put in to
  everything
  around accessibility.
 
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Re: Pro Tools 11 status

[Nickus de Vos]

Slau, as already mentioned to you luckally it's possible to install 11
and still run 10 on the same machine. I think this will make the
upgrade disision easyer for us as we can try 11 but still use 10. For
those not owning Pro Tools yet who has been contemplating the buy, now
is the time to do so before 11 gets released. If you buy 10 now your
upgrade to 11 will be free.

Slau once again many thanks for all your efforts put in to everything
around accessibility.

Slau Halatyn wrote:
 Folks,

 The announcement yesterday was just as much a surprise to me as it was to 
 most people. Frankly, it seemed to take most beta testers by surprise as 
 well. As this is a public list, I'm sort of bending the NDA rules just a bit 
 but, under the circumstances, I think it's OK, given the unique nature of 
 accessibility concerns.

 I've been on the Pro Tools beta team on and off since 2003. For a time, when 
 OS X was inaccessible, there seemed to be no point. During the years when we 
 were waiting to here about whether Digidesign was going to finally do 
 something, there was nothing to test. This time around, we knew there would 
 be a cycle with an opportunity to look at accessibility. I was also asked to 
 assemble a few people to submit observations to me and I would filter them 
 and submit reports. We've gone through that process for a while now. Thing 
 is, the initial cycle was based on 10.3.x. I'm not sure if this was supposed 
 to be a cycle of final fixes for version 10 or something but, it seemed to be 
 not really different at all from what we already saw in version 10.

 Well, suddenly, along came what was truly meant to be version 11. As always, 
 good news and bad news. Also, as usual, bad news first.

 Just as we saw from version 9 to version 10, there are more things broken. 
 More specifically, certain controls have lost some accessibility, probably 
 because of changes to frameworks. For example, when clicking on an input 
 source, a list pops up but it's not possible to navigate the menu. It's not 
 possible to test this against Lion because the minimum requirement is a 
 64-bit machine running Mountain Lion.

 Now, all of this realization happened just a few days ago when the PT 11 beta 
 became available for the first time to the team. I immediately contacted some 
 key people and expressed concern over what had happened. As we know, Pro 
 Tools has been undergoing a complete re-write but it's not accurate to say 
 that version 11 alone is a complete rewrite from the ground up. In fact, it 
 was already beginning to be rewritten as far back as 2006. At any rate, it 
 appears that a number of things have, in fact, changed in this upcoming 
 version and, as a result, the way VoiceOver sees it, a bunch of stuff is 
 unrecognizable or at least doesn't behave as you'd expect.

 As you all know, we had gotten the support of then CEO Gary Greenfield at the 
 end of last year and that mandate still stands. Rich Holmes recently assured 
 me that he and the company are still 100% committed to making Pro Tools 
 accessible. Given how many things are currently broken, it might make the 
 most sense to take the approach we took last time and have somebody purely 
 focus on accessibility. the ultimate goal is to make it all part of the 
 process of programming and in-house testing. This time around, with such a 
 major update, that proved to be more than they could handle, given the 
 timeframe.

 Oh, even though I did sort of start with the good news in Rich's quick reply, 
 the other thing to consider is that, much of the UI is, at least on the face 
 of it, recognizable. Just as under Mountain Lion, for example, record and 
 mute buttons in the Mix window are still visible but, just as with Mountain 
 Lion, the state of buttons is not readable. In other words, the accessibility 
 is much like that in Mountain Lion but with pop-up menus not working 
 properly. So, rather than starting from square one with no accessibility 
 whatsoever, we've taken a step back, if anything but I do believe we'll take 
 two steps forward in the near future.

 Undoubtedly, many of you will be disappointed and some of you will be very 
 disappointed. How everybody handles this news has very much to do with 
 everybody's individual personality. While I'm personally frustrated with this 
 setback, I'm confident that we'll have some results in the near future. 
 Please don't ask me about any more details regarding the beta. I've 
 technically said too much already but felt that it was time to at least say 
 something, given yesterday's announcement. Naturally, if I hear anything 
 worth passing along, this is the place to tune in so, as they say, stay tuned.

 Best,

 Slau

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Re: Pro Tools 11 status

[Nickus de Vos]

Slau, so far I only heard that it will work on Mountain Lion but if it
still works on Lion it will be cool. Just a update on my earlyer post
on buying Pro Tools 10 now and getting free update to 11 once it comes
out. I've just listened to a audio interview with 1 of the Avid
product specialists, he said if you buy 11 you will also get a licence
for 10 so you can install both on your system. He says this is to make
the transition as painless as possible for the users. So I guess
whether you buy 10 now and upgrade to 11 for free, or whether you buy
11 later once it's out and get a 10 licence, you'll still be able to
run both on your machine.

Slau Halatyn wrote:
 The ability to keep both on the same partition is definitely a plus. I wish 
 they had accommodated that with versions 9 and 10. There's another detail 
 that's still not clear. Originally, it was said that 11 would only work with 
 Mountain Lion. I've been hearing reports that it'll still be compatible with 
 Lion. That'll also be a consideration for some.

 Slau

 On Apr 9, 2013, at 5:27 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote:

  Slau, as already mentioned to you luckally it's possible to install 11
  and still run 10 on the same machine. I think this will make the
  upgrade disision easyer for us as we can try 11 but still use 10. For
  those not owning Pro Tools yet who has been contemplating the buy, now
  is the time to do so before 11 gets released. If you buy 10 now your
  upgrade to 11 will be free.
 
  Slau once again many thanks for all your efforts put in to everything
  around accessibility.

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Re: Lacie hard drives, r they good?

[Nickus de Vos]

As far as I know, the new retina mac book pros can't be updated at all
when it comes to RAM and their flash storage because it's chips
sauderd on to the motherboard. If Apple can do it, it will anyway be
very expensive so it's best to max out the specs of a retina macbook
pro if you buy it. On the ram side the same goes for the 21 inch iMac,
the ram is also not upgradable it's also saudered on to the
motherboard, as far as I know the 27 iMac has normal removable ram.

J. R. Westmoreland wrote:
 You are right about the badness of upgrading the new retina Mac Books. That
 is why my new one will have 16gb of RAM from the get go. LOL It also has the
 768gb SSD as well.

 J. R.


 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of TheOreoMonster
 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:26 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Lacie hard drives, r they good?

 Just to point out most external hard rives you  buy are just a branded
 interface with Western Digital  or Segate drives installed in them.  I think
 those two companies are just about the only two companies left that still
 actually manufacturer Hard drives anymore, there is a lot of rebranding
 going on in that space. Also Ran is very easy to upgrade on most apple
 computers minus the the new Retinas and macbook airs.. Especially on the
 minis, iMacs and macbook pros..
 On Dec 16, 2012, at 5:42 AM, Nickus de Vos bigboy...@gmail.com wrote:

  Earlyer I couldn't remember the firewire chips to look out for. As I
  said the drives with USB and firewire is not nececeraly the best
  quality, except if you make sure that the external drive has a oxford
  bridge firewire chip. The drives with these oxford chips are usually a
  bit more expensive but it is highly recommended to get one of them
  especially if you will use a drive for recording where it constantly
  streems data back and forth. A firewire only drive with oxford chips
  or a firewire and USB combo with oxford chips would work fine, most
  manufacturers would state that their external drive has oxford chips,
  it would be stupid if they don't state it, because it's a sign of
  quality. Another option if you can't find the right external drive
  then make one up yourself or ask someone to help you. Buy a bair 1 TB
  or 2 TB 7200 RPM SATA drive and a firewire drive enclosure obviously
  with oxford chips, then incert the drive yourself.
 
  On Dec 16, 11:49 am, Nickus de Vos bigboy...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yes 4 GB ram will be fine for a start but if you can aford the 8 GB
  from the start it will obviously be better. As I understand you are
  looking to get the quad core mini with the 1 TB hard drive and 4 GB of
  ram and this will be fine together with a 7200 RPM external firewire
  800 drive. I only have experience with Seegate and western digital
  drives and can highly recommend both. I would suggest rather getting a
  drive which is spesifically only firewire 800, those combo things
  could be nice if using the drive on different devices, but it often
  doesn't have the best quality firewire chips and what you're looking
  for here is a quality drive with quality firewire chips and you'll get
  the best quality from seagate or western digital.
 
 
 
  Cameron Strife wrote:
  Yeah, four gigs will be fine in the short term.
 
  Cameron.
 
  On 12/16/12, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com wrote:
  No, I will get the 7200 rbm, and I will get the i7 quad, no server.
  The problem now  the ram, the store refuse to take the 2 gb ram,so If I
  will
  update my machine from 4 to 8, I will pay the money to udate, and I
 will
  not
  sell my 2gb pieces.
  So, can't I work with 4 gb of ram?
 
  Cheers:
  Ramy Moustafa
  If music be the food of love... play on.
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  0020102221750
  Personal email:
  ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com
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  -Original Message-
  From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
  Behalf
  Of Cameron Strife
  Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 10:17 PM
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Lacie hard drives, r they good?
 
  Hi. I've only had one of their drives and it worked fine for me.
  firewire 800 is your best option and if you got a mac mini server
  edition, you've got one firewire 800 port available.
 
  What is the rpm of the hard drive you're looking at?
 
  Cameron.
 
  On 12/16/12, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com wrote:
  HI alL:
 
  I found a lacie hard disk, usb 2.0 fire wire 400 and 800
  Is it ok?
  What about this company, ok?
 
  Cheers:
  Ramy Moustafa
  If music be the food of love... play on.
  Mobile:
  0020102221750
  Personal email:
  ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com
  Msn and aim messengers:
  flutelo...@link.net
  Studio

Re: Lacie hard drives, r they good?

[Nickus de Vos]

 as i currently use one with no
  issues. It's  USB 2 a, however i rarely record more than a couple tracks
  at
  a time. That being Said USB3, firewire or Thunderbold should get the job
  done, just make sure if you go USB the drive in the external bay is
  7200RPM.
  On Dec 14, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Ramy Moustafa
  moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Aha, thanks so much for this.
  But, what about a usb hard drive? I found good companies here, any
  advices?
  And what about the good models?
 
 
  Cheers:
  Ramy Moustafa
  If music be the food of love... play on.
  Mobile:
  0020102221750
  Personal email:
  ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com
  Msn and aim messengers:
  flutelo...@link.net
  Studio email:
  harmonystudio2...@gmail.com
  facebook profile:
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  youtube chanael:
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  -Original Message-
  From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
  Behalf
  Of Nickus de Vos
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:06 PM
  To: Pro Tools Accessibility
  Subject: Re: Using 1 hd for recording
 
  Hi,
  As said the ideal way is to get a external drive for recording and to
  have your OS and pro tools installed on the internal drive. If getting
  external drives I would rather get thunderbolt or firewire than USB 3.
  If the budget does not allow for external drives for recording, you
  should be fine to record on the internal drive of the mac mini, sure
  you won't be able to record 32 tracks at once or whatever, but it will
  work. Just make sure you get a mac mini with a 7200 RPM drive rather
  than a 5400 RPM drive. If you can't get a 7200 RPM drive the 5400
  might also work but it's highly recommended to get a 7200 RPM.
 
  Cameron Strife wrote:
  Hi. That is not advisable. as I stated in a previous message, you
  really need one system drive for the operating system and apps, and, a
  second drive for audio. For best results, you really should have a
  third drive for sample libraries and sound fonts etc. This will be
  less taxing on each hard drive and will give you far better
  performance.
 
  Trying to do everything from one drive will bottleneck and also lead
  to a shorter life span for said drive. You will have problems.
 
  Depending on if your mac mini is new or used, you may have firewire
  400 or 800, USB 3.0, and/or thunderbolt. External drives are pretty
  cheap these days. Just get a couple 500 gb 7200rpm drives to get
  started with. Finally, don't go for USB 2.0. make sure they are USB
  3.0 if you can go that route with your mini. I use firewire drives a
  lot and that is usually my first recommendation unless you can spring
  for a thudnerbolt drive.
 
  Cameron.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On 12/8/12, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  HI all:
 
  I will buy a mac mini with 1 tb hard drive,
  Can I partition it, and use for recording? Or it will be bad?
  Thanks
  Cheers:
  Ramy Moustafa
  If music be the food of love... play on.
  Mobile:
  0020102221750
  Personal email:
  ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com
  Msn and aim messengers:
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  Twitter:
  moustafa.r...@gmail.com
  youtube chanael:
  www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: Lacie hard drives, r they good?

[Nickus de Vos]

Earlyer I couldn't remember the firewire chips to look out for. As I
said the drives with USB and firewire is not nececeraly the best
quality, except if you make sure that the external drive has a oxford
bridge firewire chip. The drives with these oxford chips are usually a
bit more expensive but it is highly recommended to get one of them
especially if you will use a drive for recording where it constantly
streems data back and forth. A firewire only drive with oxford chips
or a firewire and USB combo with oxford chips would work fine, most
manufacturers would state that their external drive has oxford chips,
it would be stupid if they don't state it, because it's a sign of
quality. Another option if you can't find the right external drive
then make one up yourself or ask someone to help you. Buy a bair 1 TB
or 2 TB 7200 RPM SATA drive and a firewire drive enclosure obviously
with oxford chips, then incert the drive yourself.

On Dec 16, 11:49 am, Nickus de Vos bigboy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes 4 GB ram will be fine for a start but if you can aford the 8 GB
 from the start it will obviously be better. As I understand you are
 looking to get the quad core mini with the 1 TB hard drive and 4 GB of
 ram and this will be fine together with a 7200 RPM external firewire
 800 drive. I only have experience with Seegate and western digital
 drives and can highly recommend both. I would suggest rather getting a
 drive which is spesifically only firewire 800, those combo things
 could be nice if using the drive on different devices, but it often
 doesn't have the best quality firewire chips and what you're looking
 for here is a quality drive with quality firewire chips and you'll get
 the best quality from seagate or western digital.



 Cameron Strife wrote:
  Yeah, four gigs will be fine in the short term.

  Cameron.

  On 12/16/12, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com wrote:
   No, I will get the 7200 rbm, and I will get the i7 quad, no server.
   The problem now  the ram, the store refuse to take the 2 gb ram,so If I
   will
   update my machine from 4 to 8, I will pay the money to udate, and I will
   not
   sell my 2gb pieces.
   So, can't I work with 4 gb of ram?

   Cheers:
   Ramy Moustafa
   If music be the food of love... play on.
   Mobile:
   0020102221750
   Personal email:
   ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com
   Msn and aim messengers:
   flutelo...@link.net
   Studio email:
   harmonystudio2...@gmail.com
   facebook profile:
  http://www.facebook.com/
   Twitter:
   moustafa.r...@gmail.com
   youtube chanael:
  www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber

   -Original Message-
   From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
   Behalf
   Of Cameron Strife
   Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 10:17 PM
   To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
   Subject: Re: Lacie hard drives, r they good?

   Hi. I've only had one of their drives and it worked fine for me.
   firewire 800 is your best option and if you got a mac mini server
   edition, you've got one firewire 800 port available.

   What is the rpm of the hard drive you're looking at?

   Cameron.

   On 12/16/12, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com wrote:
   HI alL:

   I found a lacie hard disk, usb 2.0 fire wire 400 and 800
   Is it ok?
   What about this company, ok?

   Cheers:
   Ramy Moustafa
   If music be the food of love... play on.
   Mobile:
   0020102221750
   Personal email:
   ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com
   Msn and aim messengers:
   flutelo...@link.net
   Studio email:
   harmonystudio2...@gmail.com
   facebook profile:
  http://www.facebook.com/
   Twitter:
   moustafa.r...@gmail.com
   youtube chanael:
  www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber
   -Original Message-
   From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
   Behalf
   Of TheOreoMonster
   Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 5:14 PM
   To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
   Subject: Re: Using 1 hd for recording

   OSX server will work fine. its regular OSX with the server app also
   included.  It no different from OSX other than the server app gives you
   some
   more advanced administrative control if you want to use it as a actual
   server. If you can afford the FUSION drives go for that since the 7200RPM
   drives are no longer available. In the end 5400RPM drives will slow
   things
   down a little bit  when loading stuff in and out memory, but its not
   impossible to use them especially if you aren't ever gonna be using more
   than a few tracks at a time. However if you can get a 7200RPM  external
   drive i'd suggest getting one of those and using it as the recording
   drive.
   Fusion drives  will work  well sawwell, cuz as i understand it it's keeps
   the most frequently used stuff in the sad part of the drive so its gonna
   be
   like reading it off an SSD which is super fast. Also all mac mini's have
   two
   drive bays in there so you can put in a second HD after the fact if you
   feel
   comfortable with that. the only

Re: Using 1 hd for recording

[Nickus de Vos]

The mini with OS x server also has the fastest processor which is a
good thing and the 8 GB ram will also work to your advantage. I'm not
sure about the OSx server thing, as far as I know it also has normal
OSx but others on here might be able to clarify. It is however still
very important to make sure that the hard drive or drives in the mini
you choose is 7200 RPM. As standard all minis come with 5400 RPM
drives, with previous versions you were able to configure them with
7200 RPM drives but that's no longer a option on the apple store, the
only option is to configure them with a fusion drive or SSD. A SSD is
not ideal for recording and I can't find the speed of the fusion
drives anyware but think they are also 5400 RPM. Ask the apple store
or wherever you buy if they can upgrade the drives to 7200 RPM it will
only cost about $50 more than 5400 RPM drives. This is very important,
7200 RPM drives would help you more than a fast processor or a lot of
RAM, you can have the fastest quad core processor with 64 GB ram but
it won't help at all if you have a 5400 RPM drive. You are buying a
new machine so getting it right from the start will help a lot and as
I said the jump from 5400 RPM drives to 7200 RPM drives won't cost a
lot extra.

Re: Using 1 hd for recording

[Nickus de Vos]

Also make sure whether the fusion drives are 5400 RPM or 7200 RPM. If
they are only 5400 RPM then I would highly recommend to get a external
7200 RPM firewire hard drive for recording. You can buy the mac mini
with the 1 TB hard drive and quad core processor and try the 5400 RPM
for a start but later if you record more and more tracks, a 7200 RPM
external drive would be best.

On Dec 14, 5:32 pm, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I asked the store and they don't have 7200 RBM, can I buy or stop buying?

 Cheers:
 Ramy Moustafa
 If music be the food of love... play on.
 Mobile:
 0020102221750
 Personal email:
 ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com
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 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Nickus de Vos
 Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 4:42 PM
 To: Pro Tools Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Using 1 hd for recording

 The mini with OS x server also has the fastest processor which is a
 good thing and the 8 GB ram will also work to your advantage. I'm not
 sure about the OSx server thing, as far as I know it also has normal
 OSx but others on here might be able to clarify. It is however still
 very important to make sure that the hard drive or drives in the mini
 you choose is 7200 RPM. As standard all minis come with 5400 RPM
 drives, with previous versions you were able to configure them with
 7200 RPM drives but that's no longer a option on the apple store, the
 only option is to configure them with a fusion drive or SSD. A SSD is
 not ideal for recording and I can't find the speed of the fusion
 drives anyware but think they are also 5400 RPM. Ask the apple store
 or wherever you buy if they can upgrade the drives to 7200 RPM it will
 only cost about $50 more than 5400 RPM drives. This is very important,
 7200 RPM drives would help you more than a fast processor or a lot of
 RAM, you can have the fastest quad core processor with 64 GB ram but
 it won't help at all if you have a 5400 RPM drive. You are buying a
 new machine so getting it right from the start will help a lot and as
 I said the jump from 5400 RPM drives to 7200 RPM drives won't cost a
 lot extra.

OT getting soundcraft mixer software accessible

[Nickus de Vos]

Hi all
Sorry for the OT message but this is one of the few platforms where I
can reach blind audio engineers.
I know the studio side of things is the obvious choice for a blind
person and there for a lot of you might not be interested in this
post, but being a professional engineer I found that in some
circumstances I am also able to work in the live sound environment.
A while back I posted on here asking about ways in which to use
digital mixers and if anything is availible. The easyest to make
digital desks accessible to us, would be to get the software
accessible as you can control most of these mixers today by using your
computer.
I do a lot of work for my church both paid and voluntary, they are in
the process of buying 2 soundcraft vi6 digital mixers which basically
means I will not be able to work for them anymore because they're
throaghing out all the analog gear. I looked at the soundcraft
software and except for only being on windows, it is basically not at
all accessible. The church said they would be willing to help me to
persuade soundcraft to look in to making there software accessible, as
they will be spending over $200,000 on the mixers, they might just
have some persuasive power, plus, Harmin International Soundcrafts
mother company will do a lot not to lose this church as a client.
In official statements so far, soundcraft said it is not economically
viable to write there mixer software for Mac, but I can't see how it
can't be, if selling a couple of $100,000 mixers per month and then
also a lot of smaller mixers, how can't you have money to pay a couple
of software engineers to code the software for mac.  The easyest way
for them to get the software accessible would be to write the software
for Mac, and to follow Apples accessibility guidelines.
They haven't contacted me yet but I will be whilling to work with them
to get this done. I just want to know from you guys if any of you
would be interested in accessible software for soundcraft mixers and
if you guys would be willing to throagh your weight behind the effort
to get this done. This does not only include the big soundcraft mixers
of the vi series, but also the SI compact range and even if a lot of
you don't use mixers right now, it might be benoficial for other blind
users in the future.
If you would be willing to help by maybe adding your name to a
patician or list, then please drop me a mail off list at
bigboy...@gmail.com I don't want to hog this list with a OT topic

Nickus

Re: response from Gary greenfield

[Nickus de Vos]

Very positive and I really hope we can get to a point where they
already take accessibility in to concideration when coding a
enhancement or new feeture in PT. Well done Slau

Slau Halatyn wrote:
 Thanks, guys. Frankly, I do feel like a great weight has been lifted off my 
 shoulders. To put things in perspective, this is just another first step on a 
 journey with many legs. The important thing is that we're now preparing to 
 build a foundation upon which things can be more durable.

 All the best,

 Slau