backup mail server
Hi, I have two mail servers - on is located in a different country - My question is how do I become a backup for that other server in the event that it goes down or looses connectivity?? I have added entries into DNS so as the two severs are secondary MX's for each other.. BUT what needs to be done on the qmail side so that it will accept these messages and queue them until they can be dilivered?? Thanks Tonino
qmail says #5.7.1
Hi everybody! Maybe I am missing something essential in qmail documentation, but: I've installed qmail + qmail-pop3d on the machine with my dns server which is dual homed (so it works as proxy and mail serv). The machine is firewalled on external interface and absolutely open on internal interface. So, the problem is with setup of qmail-pop3d or qmail itself. HELP! Any windows mail client (e.g. Netscape Messager (4.72) or Outlook Express) can receive mail but can not send mail to external domains like ukrpack.net, etc. These external domains use normal sendmail and do not use any kind of anti-spam sequrity. It says "553 sorry, this domain is not in the list of allowed rcpthost (#5.7.1.)." However, it normally sends and receives messages to and from hotmail.com. I almost got desperate. Thanx for participation. Maximorus (Max. Khudik)
RE: Qmail failing ORBS test :-(
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17 Apr 00, at 22:32, Mark Tippetts wrote: Sendmail is NOT the problem. Its presence is creating conditions where the problem manifests, but it's not to blame. It's simply accepting a message from a host it trusts. Why does it trust that host? The problem is qmail relaying this message from an untrusted host. It will always do so. (This about that: qmail gets message for your domain. It's quite likely to come from unstrusted host. qmail has no idea that ! or % signs have special meanings for sendmail - they have NO special meaning for qmail. Therefore qmail duly passes the message along.) Even if I did turn off UUCP rewriting for sendmail, the underlying problem remains: qmail is acting as an open relay for messages with no @domain specified. No, it does not. It thinks sendmail will deliver them locally. Anything wrong with that? The problem can be redefined as, "qmail appends envnoathost to ANY rcpt address without a domain". This works too: $ telnet mx0.lynxus.com 25 Trying 12.6.137.100... Connected to mx0.lynxus.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mx0.lynxus.com ESMTP helo 250 mx0.lynxus.com mail from:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 ok rcpt to:bishop%lynxus.net 250 ok data 354 go ahead test . 250 ok 956024397 qp 28670 quit 221 mx0.lynxus.com Connection closed by foreign host. $ This gets delivered despite the fact I have not enabled percenthack, because it's actually relayed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the server for lynxus.com does percenthack processing. Why does it do the percenthack processing then? It's not vital part of SMTP, you know, it's more or less a sendmailism. BTW, since I wrote my original message, my assistant pointed out a spot on the ORBS web site where it describes this exact problem as a bug. So now I have to rephrase my question: Is there an effective work-around for this, that will prevent qmail from automatically rewriting rcpt addresses without a domain? You want to fix your sendmail, trust me. qmail won't add the local hostname. So what? Someone else will post to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and your sendmail will relay the mail anyway. If you can't fix your sendmail, patch qmail-smtpd to refuse mails with addresses containing "!" or "%". But you're putting the horse behind the cart. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBOPv+M1MwP8g7qbw/EQKw5QCg+3YW2RsuknDToNJ8lPHLa89t03AAoL6X 0E8FGjjJI6kvoRAveYZ/8iyW =4CX7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Petr Novotny, ANTEK CS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.antek.cz PGP key ID: 0x3BA9BC3F -- Don't you know there ain't no devil there's just God when he's drunk. [Tom Waits]
Re: qmail says #5.7.1
On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 10:11:55AM +0200, Max B. Khudik wrote: Hi everybody! Maybe I am missing something essential in qmail documentation, but: I've installed qmail + qmail-pop3d on the machine with my dns server which is dual homed [snip] HELP! Any windows mail client (e.g. Netscape Messager (4.72) or Outlook Express) can receive mail but can not send mail to external domains like ukrpack.net, etc. [snip] It says "553 sorry, this domain is not in the list of allowed rcpthost (#5.7.1.)." What's the contents of your rcpthosts ? However, it normally sends and receives messages to and from hotmail.com. Seems one of the entries in rcpthosts is hotmail ;-) I almost got desperate. G I know the feeling ... Greetz, Steffan
Re: Outlook + UW IMAP + mbox + qmail
On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 08:18:48PM -0400, Eric M. Johnston wrote: Peter van Dijk wrote: After doing some experimentation, I discovered that the IMAP server is getting its time from the "From " header in the mbox, not the "Received:" or "Date:" headers, and passing this on to Outlook. When using POP, Outlook evidently gets the time itself from a "Received:" header. a From: header, I think. There is no common standard for Received-headers. Also, in qmail, these will be UTC as well :) Umm, there isn't a timestamp in the "From:" header, just the mailbox "From " header (I assume that's what you meant). Anyway, Outlook seems Sorry, I meant the Date: header. Clients don't normally (not with POP anyway) see the "From " header anyway. to be able to cope with UTC in "Received:" headers, as in the POP case; just not in the "From " header that IMAP passes, because there's no indication that "From " is in UTC. The Date: header is usually in a local time zone, and indeed clients are encouraged to convert to local. Don't now if Outlook really does that tho... This 'fixes' the time seen in Outlook, I guess because either IMAP or Outlook can now figure out the local time. My question is this: does this solution violate any standards or will it break anything obvious? Why doesn't qmail give some indication that the date/time given in this header is not local time? I can't find anything about this in RFC822, probably because RFC822 doesn't describe mailbox formats, only message formats :) Yeah, this was my experience. man mbox (from qmail) on the other hand, does specify an exact time format. I don't know. I don't think it will break anything. I do think IMAPd is broken for supplying the user with that info. But UW IMAP is broken anyway. You do know that _another_ buffer overflow in UW IMAP was found somewhere in the last few days? I agree completely. I'd much rather not use mailbox or UW IMAP, but circumstances require them at this point. Perhaps sometime in the future... Hehe :) Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
Non-root IMAP server possible?
Slightly off topic I know but I'd appreciate any pointers. Is there any such thing as an IMAP server (or similar) that one can set up as a *user* - i.e. without root access? I have two shell login accounts with excellent connectivity etc. which would be ideal for managing my E-Mail using IMAP but neither system actually runs IMAP and there seems little prosect of it. Also (more on topic) what's the simplest IMAP server to set up with qmail on a Linux system (Mandrake 6.1)? -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: backup mail server
On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 09:01:30AM +0200, TAG wrote: Hi, I have two mail servers - on is located in a different country - My question is how do I become a backup for that other server in the event that it goes down or looses connectivity?? I have added entries into DNS so as the two severs are secondary MX's for each other.. BUT what needs to be done on the qmail side so that it will accept these messages and queue them until they can be dilivered?? echo hisdomain.com /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
Re: Non-root IMAP server possible?
On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 08:42:20AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: Slightly off topic I know but I'd appreciate any pointers. Is there any such thing as an IMAP server (or similar) that one can set up as a *user* - i.e. without root access? Should be no problem, you just won't be able to run it off port 143. I have two shell login accounts with excellent connectivity etc. which would be ideal for managing my E-Mail using IMAP but neither system actually runs IMAP and there seems little prosect of it. So install IMAP in your homedir and have it listen to one port there. Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
OT: Help with SPAM
Hi, We are in the process of moving to qmail from Mailsite (on NT), but I face a problem with SPAM that I do not think will be solved by QMail. The sender of the spam is using a fake address on our domain as the from address in the spam. Although the spam itself is forwarded through AOL/concentric and possibly via other free/cheap access points (our server is not a relay or originator), the bounces and complaints do reach us. 1. Is there a way to get qmail to reject mail sent to a specified address on one of the domains for which it does accept mail - sort of a BADMAILTO entry? Ideally the mail should be rejected during the SMTP receipt session. 2. A better solution would be to stop mail with fake from addresses from exiting a system altogether. Any one know about such a system or how it can be implemented - it certainly would seem to be a major task to convince mail admins to do so, and they all would have to to be able to prevent this from happening. 3. The spam messages contain only US based toll free numbers (1-888-258-4753 and 888-533-1018). I am not in the US so I need some help in tracking the owners of these numbers. Can someone help in that regard? Thanks Abdul
qmail Digest 18 Apr 2000 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 975
qmail Digest 18 Apr 2000 10:00:01 - Issue 975 Topics (messages 40170 through 40268): Move qmail and directories to new system - how...? 40170 by: Anthony White 40180 by: Chris Hardie 40185 by: Peter van Dijk qmail-pop3d 40171 by: John P. Looney 40172 by: James Raftery 40173 by: John P. Looney log/spam/smpt/pop 40174 by: octave klaba qmail startup problems help 40175 by: Madhav 40176 by: Patrick Ohiomoba Qmailqueue patch?!? 40177 by: Jesper Ekberg help for documentation? 40178 by: cdowns qmail startup help 40179 by: Madhav 40186 by: Dave Sill Re: 2 questions? 40181 by: Dave Sill Re: Qmail does not start at system start up 40182 by: Dave Sill Re: Problem when starting qmail with the script 40183 by: Dave Sill 40187 by: Patrick Ohiomoba Re: Start Qmail 40184 by: Dave Sill newbie question 40188 by: Les Higger 40189 by: Patrick Ohiomoba Re: Need someone to contract for qmail/ezmlm - db integration 40190 by: Florian G. Pflug Qmail on FreeBSD 4.0 40191 by: Gabriel Ambuehl 40192 by: Chris Johnson 40193 by: Soffen, Matthew 40195 by: Patrick Bihan-Faou 40200 by: Ben Beuchler 40201 by: S.P. Hoeke 40202 by: Patrick Bihan-Faou 40204 by: Patrick Bihan-Faou 40210 by: Delanet Administration 40211 by: Mike 40213 by: Vince Vielhaber 40220 by: Patrick Bihan-Faou 40221 by: Peter van Dijk 40224 by: Gabriel Ambuehl 40225 by: Peter van Dijk Re: qmail, ucsi-tcp inetd 40194 by: "Próspero, Esteban" qmail as secondary MX. 40196 by: Mario Rafael 40197 by: Dave Sill 40198 by: Russell Nelson Newbie. 40199 by: Eduardo Moor 40228 by: Markus Fischer 40230 by: John Gonzalez/netMDC admin next release 40203 by: S.P. Hoeke 40205 by: Dave Sill greeting message 40206 by: quanta smtpgreeting 40207 by: quanta 40215 by: Dave Sill Maildir format 40208 by: quanta 40212 by: Paul Schinder 40214 by: Steve Wolfe 40216 by: Dave Sill 40217 by: lluisma vpopmail with ipop3d 40209 by: Mario Rafael Read and Delivery Receipts 40218 by: Scott Wilson 40219 by: Gabriel Ambuehl 40223 by: Peter van Dijk mailbox not found 40222 by: Joel Dudley mail-abuse.org 40226 by: Luis Bezerra 40229 by: Soffen, Matthew 40231 by: Bruce 40232 by: Peter van Dijk 40233 by: Peter van Dijk 40235 by: Bruce 40237 by: Peter van Dijk 40238 by: Luis Bezerra 40239 by: Adam McKenna 40240 by: Peter van Dijk 40241 by: Len Budney 40243 by: Peter van Dijk Re: SPAMCONTROL not work properly 40227 by: Erwin Hoffmann pop3 greeting message 40234 by: quanta Re: softhome.net qmail smtp server error 40236 by: rogers-qmail.h0050da615e79.ne.mediaone.net uscpi / deamontools 40242 by: Mike Alexander Sauvain 40244 by: Peter van Dijk Outlook + UW IMAP + mbox + qmail 40245 by: Eric M. Johnston 40246 by: Peter van Dijk 40247 by: Eric M. Johnston 40263 by: Peter van Dijk Compile Error 40248 by: Nathaniel L. Keeling III 40257 by: Kristina Can you help me install Qmail? 40249 by: Jeff Dilcher 40255 by: chuck 40256 by: Anthony White Qmail failing ORBS test :-( 40250 by: Mark Tippetts 40251 by: Russ Allbery 40252 by: Mark Tippetts 40253 by: Russell Nelson 40254 by: Russ Allbery 40261 by: Petr Novotny 40265 by: Peter van Dijk supervise question 40258 by: lluisma backup mail server 40259 by: TAG 40266 by: Peter van Dijk qmail says #5.7.1 40260 by: Max B. Khudik 40262 by: S.P. Hoeke Non-root IMAP server possible? 40264 by: Chris Green 40267 by: Peter van Dijk Re: Help with SPAM 40268 by: Abdul Rehman Gani Administrivia: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To bug my human owner, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To post to the list, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I have a quick question about moving a complete working qmail setup to a new disk drive. My server has outgrown itself and now needs to be put on larger drives. Are there any problem moving ./Maildir/ directories in the users home dirs to a new drive? Are there any issues moving qmail itself? I plan to move from my RedHat system from 2 2.1G drives to 2 9.1G drives that will be running in RAID 1 configuration. Anthony On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Anthony
Re: Qmail on FreeBSD 4.0
Patrick Bihan-Faou wrote: Hi, - Original Message - From: "Mike" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patrick Bihan-Faou wrote: Looking quickly at the NetBSD and the FreeBSD code, I would say that they are not affected by that bug. Also solaris 2.5 is clean. I don't know about any of the linux... Well, now that you mention it, does NetBSD also mean OpenBSD by extension? I didn't see any references to a patch in their (OpenBSD) port. Oops I meant, NetBSD and OpenBSD are not affected. FreeBSD is for all version (including 3.x). AFAIK this happens only with IPv6 compiled in the Kernel (which is default in FreeBSD 4.0)? Actually, I'm running 3.4-stable and never got this problem. I remember one patch in FreeBSD shortly before 4.0-release which, according to the cvs log, was supposed to fix this problem. I'll see if I can dig it up. If this bug is not fixed someone who is affected should file a PR with FreeBSD gnats. -- Andre
Re: Qmail on FreeBSD 4.0
Peter van Dijk wrote: On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 10:31:51PM +0300, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: Hello Peter, code and not part of the stable branch, I'd avoid using it for any production servers till it's migrated to the stable tree. 4.0 went STABLE a couple of weeks ago. So should I go for 4.0 stable directly instead of 4.0 Release? You can't. There is no 4.0-STABLE release. That's wat 4.0-RELEASE is called RELEASE for. Get 4.0-RELEASE mfsroot and kern disks, FTP-install 4.0-RELEASE, and then cvsup to 4.0-STABLE and make world and install a new kernel. There is a partial fix in FreeBSD-4.0-RELEASE. For more information see PR kern/17311: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17311 CVS Log for src/sys/net/if.c: 1.85 Mon Feb 28 19:30:25 2000 UTC by guido CVS Tags: RELENG_4_0_0_RELEASE, RELENG_4_BP, HEAD, RELENG_4 Diffs to 1.84 This fixes a problem where the SIOCGIFCONF ioctl goes wrong. This is triggered when qmail is used with INET6 enabled. The bug manifests itself in that the space variable can become negative and that in the comparison in the guards of the 2 loops, this was not noticed because sizeof() returns an unsigned and thus the signed variable gets promoted to unsigned. I decided not to make space unsigned because I think we should guard against this from happening. Thus panic() in case space becomes negative. -- Andre
Re: Qmail on FreeBSD 4.0
On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 01:45:34PM +0200, Andre Oppermann wrote: Patrick Bihan-Faou wrote: Hi, - Original Message - From: "Mike" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patrick Bihan-Faou wrote: Looking quickly at the NetBSD and the FreeBSD code, I would say that they are not affected by that bug. Also solaris 2.5 is clean. I don't know about any of the linux... Well, now that you mention it, does NetBSD also mean OpenBSD by extension? I didn't see any references to a patch in their (OpenBSD) port. Oops I meant, NetBSD and OpenBSD are not affected. FreeBSD is for all version (including 3.x). AFAIK this happens only with IPv6 compiled in the Kernel (which is default in FreeBSD 4.0)? Actually, I'm running 3.4-stable and never got this problem. OpenBSD v2.7 has IPv6 support compiled in kernel No probs Greetz, Steffan
Re: backup mail server
TAG writes: I have two mail servers - on is located in a different country - My question is how do I become a backup for that other server in the event that it goes down or looses connectivity?? I have added entries into DNS so as the two severs are secondary MX's for each other.. BUT what needs to be done on the qmail side so that it will accept these messages and queue them until they can be dilivered?? This is a bad idea. Why? Because you're setting yourself up for the situation a friend was just in. His main server went down, and the secondary kicked in. Unfortunately, the secondary server had become misconfigured (or was never configured correctly in the first place) and his email started bouncing. Overall, he would have been better off without a secondary MX server. His mail still wouldn't have been delivered (a secondary doesn't deliver the mail, it just re-queues it), but neither would it have bounced either. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | "Ask not what your country 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | do for you..." -Perry M.
Re[2]: backup mail server
This is a bad idea. Why? Because you're setting yourself up for the situation a friend was just in. His main server went down, and the secondary kicked in. Unfortunately, the secondary server had become misconfigured (or was never configured correctly in the first place) and his email started bouncing. Do you mean this seriously? I can't see a problem with a secondary which is using exactly the same config (we normally clone our systems as the first one except for the lack of the entries in local or virtual... As long as your primary doesn't go any longer than just a few minutes, you surely don't need a secondary, but if the hardware fails, it's possible that it will be down such long (depends highly on the admins, available spare system etc.) that some mails bounce... Best regards, Gabriel
postoffice migration question
We recently purchased an ISP running postoffice on NT from software.com... Does any one know an easy way to migrate from it to the qmail Maildir format? Also, does any one have any idea of how to get the passwords out of the program? Sorry in advance if this is a little off topic, but as this is qmail we are migrating to, I just thought some one might have had experience doing it... Thanks in advance.
Re: OT: Help with SPAM
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Abdul Rehman Gani wrote: Hi, We are in the process of moving to qmail from Mailsite (on NT), but I face a problem with SPAM that I do not think will be solved by QMail. The sender of the spam is using a fake address on our domain as the from address in the spam. Although the spam itself is forwarded through AOL/concentric and possibly via other free/cheap access points (our server is not a relay or originator), the bounces and complaints do reach us. 1. Is there a way to get qmail to reject mail sent to a specified address on one of the domains for which it does accept mail - sort of a BADMAILTO entry? Ideally the mail should be rejected during the SMTP receipt session. You can use "bouncesaying" in a dot-qmail file to bounce mail sent to a specific address with a specific return message. Note that qmail will accept the message for delivery before encountering this, so if the envelope is bad, the message will double-bounce to you. If you really want to do the bouncing during the SMTP conversation, which can be a bad idea for several reasons (see earlier threads on this topic), check out one of the anti-spam patches available from qmail.org or here: http://www.summersault.com/chris/techno/qmail/qmail-antispam.html 2. A better solution would be to stop mail with fake from addresses from exiting a system altogether. Any one know about such a system or how it can be implemented - it certainly would seem to be a major task to convince mail admins to do so, and they all would have to to be able to prevent this from happening. I'm not sure all mail admins would agree that this is a good solution. Some consider it a feature that one can send mail from a "physical" address on one machine with an envelope pointing to another account. This is what makes POP client mailers so flexible (e.g. if I use earthlink to dial up to the net but want to use my university mail account to "send and receive" mail.) But, as you have seen, that feature comes with some hassles too. 3. The spam messages contain only US based toll free numbers (1-888-258-4753 and 888-533-1018). I am not in the US so I need some help in tracking the owners of these numbers. Can someone help in that regard? US 1-800-555-1212? infospace.com reverse lookup? Call the numbers and tell them you're interested in their product and need a mailing address? Hope this helps, Chris -- Chris Hardie - - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.summersault.com/chris/ --
Re: supervise question
On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 01:25:51AM -0400, lluisma wrote: Hi all, I have this entry for qmail-pop3d which is under supervise: #!/bin/sh exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ tcpserver 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup host.name.gov \ /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir ^ Take the out. It is working but when I check with svstat the pid always changes every second or less. Chris
Re: Re[2]: backup mail server
Thus said Gabriel Ambuehl on Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:58:00 +0300: Do you mean this seriously? I can't see a problem with a secondary which is using exactly the same config (we normally clone our systems as the first one except for the lack of the entries in local or virtual... As long as your primary doesn't go any longer than just a few minutes, you surely don't need a secondary, but if the hardware fails, it's possible that it will be down such long (depends highly on the admins, available spare system etc.) that some mails bounce... Yes seriously. Most MTA's will queue email for at least 3 days, so unless your hardware failure lasts that long then you should be fine. Andy -- +== Andy == TiK: garbaglio ==+ |Linux is about freedom of choice| +== http://www.xmission.com/~bradipo/ ===+ PGP signature
Re: OT: Help with SPAM
At 4/18/2000 09:16 AM -0500, Chris Hardie wrote or quoted: On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Abdul Rehman Gani wrote: 3. The spam messages contain only US based toll free numbers (1-888-258-4753 and 888-533-1018). I am not in the US so I need some help in tracking the owners of these numbers. Can someone help in that regard? US 1-800-555-1212? infospace.com reverse lookup? Call the numbers and tell them you're interested in their product and need a mailing address? I like that last solution. It has a certain ironic tang to it that tickles my fancy. - Kai MacTane System Administrator Online Partners.com, Inc. - From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996) finger trouble /n./ Mistyping, typos, or generalized keyboard incompetence (this is surprisingly common among hackers, given the amount of time they spend at keyboards). "I keep putting colons at the end of statements instead of semicolons", "Finger trouble again, eh?".
qmail install
Hi All, I have built a pent-200 w/64MB of ram, and it has a pair of NIC's for so the machine can be used for IP masq if needed, it also has a digiboard PC/Xem ISA card for dial in support (digiboard support is already working)... I would like to know if this would be a good machine to practice installing qmail and assorted goodies, using say Dave Sills 'Life with Qmail' as a guide and adding additional goodies as I go along...I want to be more comfortable with doing a(n) install from scratch so I can rely less on others when I need to figure things out (though a ORA qmail book would be helpful, hint hint)... Is there anything I need to watch for in terms of files being dumped into the wrong spots (I have a working qmail v1.03 install, so using that is out of the question)... I would enjoy some comments from regulars on this list... -Bill
kmail and maildir support
I asked kmail's maintainer if kmail has maildir support, or if they are planning on supporting maildir in the future. The brief reply was: "no to both questions". Does anybody know the reason? We know the reason in case of pine... Mate
kbiff and maildir
But kbiff does support maildir. Mate
RE: backup mail server
This is a bad idea. Why? Because you're setting yourself up for the situation a friend was just in. His main server went down, and the secondary kicked in. Unfortunately, the secondary server had become misconfigured (or was never configured correctly in the first place) and his email started bouncing. Your friend's problem was not that he had a secondary server. Your friend's problem was that he had a misconfigured secondary. If we discouraged people from running software that they often misconfigured, this list would be a dead dull desert with wind and dust devils floating through. If you're going to run a [smtp server / smtp secondary / dns server / dns secondary / web server / pop server / server / unix machine / windows machine / tonka truck ] then you've either got to learn to do it right or live with your mistakes. Every one on this list who knows how to do the above got there by doing it, making mistakes, learning from them, and doing it right. Some people probably even arranged that their mistakes be in testing setups rather than live. Having said that... splitting control of primary/secondary between two people is a setup that does ask for mistakes to be made. And handing off secondary to your ISP is asking to be shot in the head. -- gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wierd fastforward behaviour
I'm running fastforward 0.51 on a Linux machine. Normal (default domain) forwarding works fine. My problem is that email sent to a virtual user always ends up going to the default address: @400038fc7ed7129915e4 info msg 164054: bytes 435 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 5716 uid 503 @400038fc7ed712dd662c starting delivery 19: msg 164054 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] @400038fc7ed712dd7d9c status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 @400038fc7ed713f492ec new msg 164060 @400038fc7ed713f611bc info msg 164060: bytes 538 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 5720 uid 502 @400038fc7ed7143b8ae4 starting delivery 20: msg 164060 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] @400038fc7ed7143ba63c status: local 1/10 remote 1/20 @400038fc7ed7143bae0c delivery 19: success: fastforward:_qp_5720/did_0+0+1/ @400038fc7ed7143bb9c4 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20 @400038fc7ed7143bc194 end msg 164054 Here is the test configuration: # cat ~alias/.qmail-default |fastforward -d /etc/aliases.cdb # cat /etc/aliases root: alias postmaster: alias mailer-daemon: alias [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] @wdtsf.com: [EMAIL PROTECTED] # printforward /etc/aliases.cdb root@: , [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; postmaster@: , [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; mailer-daemon@: , [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: , [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; @wdtsf.com: , [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; # env DEFAULT=russ HOST=wdtsf.com fastforward -nd /etc/aliases.cdb from original envelope sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # grep wdtsf.com /var/qmail/control/* /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts:wdtsf.com /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains:wdtsf.com:alias -- Quist ConsultingEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 219 Donlea DriveVoice: +1.416.696.7600 Toronto ON M4G 2N1 Fax: +1.416.978.6620 CANADA WWW: http://www.quist.on.ca
RE: Compile Error
Nope.. Even that won't be a 100 % (so I found). You may need to modify : conf-cc and conf-ld to point to gcc instead of cc Matt Soffen Web Intranet Developer http://www.iso-ne.com/ == Boss- "My boss says we need some eunuch programmers." Dilbert - "I think he means UNIX and I already know UNIX." Boss- "Well, if the company nurse comes by, tell her I said never mind." - Dilbert - == -Original Message- From: Greg Owen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 11:30 AM To: qmail Subject: RE: Compile Error to compile qmail. I received the error '/usr/ucb/cc: language optional software package not installed' '*** Error code 1' 'make: Fatal error: Command failed for target 'qmail-local.o' '. What does this mean and how can I get around this? It means that Solaris ships without a C compiler, so you can't compile anything. To fix it, either purchase Sun's compiler, or download a precompiled version of GCC for Solaris. -- gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Compile Error
Matt Soffen wrote: Greg Owen wrote: It means that Solaris ships without a C compiler, so you can't compile anything. To fix it, either purchase Sun's compiler, or download a precompiled version of GCC for Solaris. Nope.. Even that won't be a 100 % (so I found). You may need to modify : conf-cc and conf-ld to point to gcc instead of cc Correct. You also need to avoid /usr/ucblib like the plague, and other niceties. There's a Solaris FAQ somewhere that gives the rundown on all the stupid things Sun did on Solaris from a development point of view - the compiler, the tools, the libs. The original poster, if interested in compiling anything under Solaris, should track that down (anyone remember which FAQ that is?) and read it carefully. I apologize; I was being unduly terse in my first message ;. -- gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: backup mail server
I have two mail servers - on is located in a different country - My question is how do I become a backup for that other server in the event that it goes down or looses connectivity?? Firstly, consider why you are setting up a secondary. Does it offer any advantages over letting the senders keep mail in their queue? Does it allow mail system maintenance to go without disrupting mail flow? In some cases a secondary offers no tangible benefit, and causes maintenance headaches, which WILL cause mail to bounce if you don't stay on top of it. To do it, however, Add that servers domain to /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts, but make sure that it is not in locals or anything like that. Send mail* to that domain via your mail server to make sure you're configured correctly. Set up the MX records for the domain so that your server is a listed MX server, albeit with a lower priority (lower priority == higher number). An option is to use smtproutes to hardwire the forwarding, instead of trusting DNS records to be correct. The plus is that someone can mess up DNS and your secondary will still forward; the minus is that if you want to change your primary mail server you have to remember to do so in two places, which can create maintenance problems. * An easy way to test is to telnet to port 25 of the secondary from a remote location and send mail by hand. That means using SMTP commands HELO, MAIL FROM, RCPT TO, and DATA. The archives of this list are full of examples. -- gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Messages stuck in queue
I got queue-fix but it wont compile I get this at the very end of the compile: ld32: Segmentation fault. Removing output file... *** Error code 1 (bu21) System: SGI Indy r5000 IRIX 6.5.3m let me know if you need more I'm not sure of the version of gcc installed. Sorry I'm still a newbie but I'm confused by this error, I'm guessing it was unable to do a link. I compiled on a SUN box without a problem. Thanks * John McCoy, Jr Systems Administrator Central Systems, Mills College 510-430-3321 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * -Original Message- From: Steve Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 8:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Messages stuck in queue I've got a bunch of messages that the systems seems unable to process, can they be removed without the seemingly painful process of removing the queue? Here is the log: Apr 14 15:45:47 4C:ella qmail: 955727147.699527 warning: unable to stat mess/11/52359 Apr 14 15:45:47 4C:ella qmail: 955727147.722880 warning: unable to stat mess/11/53440 It looks like someone renamed or moved the queue. Download queue-fix from www.qmail.org, run it, and you should see those messages get delivered succesfully. steve
Re: backup mail server
From: Russell Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:44:39 -0400 (EDT) I have two mail servers - on is located in a different country - My question is how do I become a backup for that other server in the event that it goes down or looses connectivity?? I have added entries into DNS so as the two severs are secondary MX's for each other.. BUT what needs to be done on the qmail side so that it will accept these messages and queue them until they can be dilivered?? This is a bad idea. Why? Because you're setting yourself up for the situation a friend was just in. His main server went down, and the secondary kicked in. Unfortunately, the secondary server had become misconfigured (or was never configured correctly in the first place) and his email started bouncing. I dunno, I had a case where we were saved by a secondary MX. The main mail server crashed just before a long weekend and wound up being out for a week. Being able to push up the queuelifetime on the secondary MX almost certainly saved mail from bouncing. Naturally we tested the secondary MX failover when we installed it, and we would test it again if we ever changed the configuration. Admittedly this wouldn't happen at a working company where the mail server would be rapidly replaced. But there are lots of other sorts of people on the net. Ian
Re: backup mail server
On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 08:55:46AM -0600, Andy Bradford wrote: Thus said Gabriel Ambuehl on Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:58:00 +0300: Do you mean this seriously? I can't see a problem with a secondary which is using exactly the same config (we normally clone our systems as the first one except for the lack of the entries in local or virtual... As long as your primary doesn't go any longer than just a few minutes, you surely don't need a secondary, but if the hardware fails, it's possible that it will be down such long (depends highly on the admins, available spare system etc.) that some mails bounce... Yes seriously. Most MTA's will queue email for at least 3 days, so unless your hardware failure lasts that long then you should be fine. Secondary MX can come in handy when you lose routing to parts of the world, but your secondary MX doesn't and can still talk to you. At one point last year JaNET in the UK lost transatlantic bandwidth (we love you Teleglobe, no really) but my main email address at the time continued to receive mail as the secondary MX was outside JaNET but within the UK. On the other hand I'd be incredibly careful about who I trusted enough to secondary MX a domain for me. J. -- ] http://www.earth.li/~noodles/ [] "It only counts as a lie-in if you [ ] PGP/GPG Key @ keys.pgp.net or [] don't get dressed before tea time." [ ] finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [] -- Steve Willison [ ] PGP: 4DC4E7FD / GPG: 5B430367 [] [
RE: Message Error
1) You didn't setup your control files properly (/var/qmail/control/*) Read the INSTALL.ctl file (its in your build directory). Did you run the config script ? 2) Yes. Read the INSTALL.maildir file (its in your build directory). It explains maildir vs. mbox. Also you probably should read the "Living with Qmail" ( http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html ) by David Sill. Matt Soffen Web Intranet Developer http://www.iso-ne.com/ == Boss- "My boss says we need some eunuch programmers." Dilbert - "I think he means UNIX and I already know UNIX." Boss- "Well, if the company nurse comes by, tell her I said never mind." - Dilbert - == -Original Message- From: Marcos dos santos Costa [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 1:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Message Error Dear Friends, I installed the qmail in my server which run Linux. I configured all things normally. However, when I try to send a message the program (in this case, Eudora) give the follow message: Can't send to ''. The server gives this reason: '553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)'. What is it? What I have to do? And other : When I check for messages, it show that I don?t have maildir. I don?t know how I do for to convert to Maildir, all my users. There is some utility? PS: Before I was use sendmail. Somebody help me? Regards, Frederiko Costa Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
Re: Message Error
I installed the qmail in my server which run Linux. I configured all things normally. However, when I try to send a message the program (in this case, Eudora) give the follow message: Can't send to ''. The server gives this reason: '553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)'. What is it? What I have to do? First, read http://www.palomine.net/qmail/relaying.html . then, read http://www.palomine.net/qmail/selectiverelay.html . The how's and why's are all in there. When I check for messages, it show that I don´t have maildir. I don´t know how I do for to convert to Maildir, all my users. There is some utility? Fast answer: man maildir better answer: Each user will need in their home directory: ~/Maildir/ ~/Maildir/new ~/Maildir/cur ~/Maildir/tmp all with permissions 600. They should also have a .qmail file containing "./Maildir/". steve
Re: Qmail on FreeBSD 4.0
On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 02:01:09PM +0200, Andre Oppermann wrote: Peter van Dijk wrote: On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 10:31:51PM +0300, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: Hello Peter, code and not part of the stable branch, I'd avoid using it for any production servers till it's migrated to the stable tree. 4.0 went STABLE a couple of weeks ago. So should I go for 4.0 stable directly instead of 4.0 Release? You can't. There is no 4.0-STABLE release. That's wat 4.0-RELEASE is called RELEASE for. Get 4.0-RELEASE mfsroot and kern disks, FTP-install 4.0-RELEASE, and then cvsup to 4.0-STABLE and make world and install a new kernel. There is a partial fix in FreeBSD-4.0-RELEASE. For more information see PR kern/17311: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17311 CVS Log for src/sys/net/if.c: 1.85 Mon Feb 28 19:30:25 2000 UTC by guido CVS Tags: RELENG_4_0_0_RELEASE, RELENG_4_BP, HEAD, RELENG_4 Diffs to 1.84 This fixes a problem where the SIOCGIFCONF ioctl goes wrong. This is triggered when qmail is used with INET6 enabled. The bug This has also happened to me before INET6 was committed to -current IIRC. Thus this commit message is at least bogus.. manifests itself in that the space variable can become negative and that in the comparison in the guards of the 2 loops, this was not noticed because sizeof() returns an unsigned and thus the signed variable gets promoted to unsigned. I decided not to make space unsigned because I think we should guard against this from happening. Thus panic() in case space becomes negative. -- Andre - Sascha
problem with alias file pointing to a pipe
I have just finished installing qmail onto a machine running AIX 4.3. Everything seems to be working well, except for some aliases I have set up. I need emails to particular addresses to be piped into a script which generates a page. So, I have the following file setup: /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-page-ehallick which contains: |/home/page/ehallick/page.sh When I send an email to page-ehallick@domain, it sends the message to the script and generates the page, but it doesn't seem to remove the file from the queue directories and keeps on delivering the file over and over. So, I'll end up getting the same page about every minute or so until I manually delete the files from queue directories. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong? What do I need to do to have qmail deliver the message to the script once and then stop? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Erick Hallick Director, Information Systems and Services CPM Corporation - http://www.cpm.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (608) 236-0475 x30 FAX: (608) 236-0485
Re: Message Error
At 4/18/2000 11:45 AM -0600, Steve Wolfe wrote or quoted: better answer: Each user will need in their home directory: ~/Maildir/ ~/Maildir/new ~/Maildir/cur ~/Maildir/tmp all with permissions 600. They should also have a .qmail file containing "./Maildir/". The permissions should be 700, not 600. The user should be able to execute (i.e., cd to) each directory. - Kai MacTane System Administrator Online Partners.com, Inc. - From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996) finger trouble /n./ Mistyping, typos, or generalized keyboard incompetence (this is surprisingly common among hackers, given the amount of time they spend at keyboards). "I keep putting colons at the end of statements instead of semicolons", "Finger trouble again, eh?".
Compilation
Dear Friends (again), Well, I compiled again the qmail and when I executed the ./config for check my configuration, it show this: Your hostname is pegasus. Your host's fully qualified name in DNS is ol33-106.openlink.com.br. Putting ol33-106.openlink.com.br into control/me... Putting openlink.com.br into control/defaultdomain... Putting com.br into control/plusdomain... Checking local IP addresses: 127.0.0.1: Adding localhost to control/locals... 192.168.1.1: PTR lookup failed. I assume this address has no DNS name. 192.168.3.1: PTR lookup failed. I assume this address has no DNS name. 200.188.33.106: Adding ol33-106.openlink.com.br to control/locals... If there are any other domain names that point to you, you will have to add them to /var/qmail/control/locals. You don't have to worry about aliases, i.e., domains with CNAME records. Copying /var/qmail/control/locals to /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts... Now qmail will refuse to accept SMTP messages except to those hosts. Make sure to change rcpthosts if you add hosts to locals or virtualdomains! Now, I Ask. There are some errors on this compilation, or not? Frederiko Costa Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
Re: Compilation
Marcos dos santos Costa wrote: Dear Friends (again), Well, I compiled again the qmail and when I executed the ./config for check my configuration, it show this: Your hostname is pegasus. Your host's fully qualified name in DNS is ol33-106.openlink.com.br. Putting ol33-106.openlink.com.br into control/me... Putting openlink.com.br into control/defaultdomain... Putting com.br into control/plusdomain... Checking local IP addresses: 127.0.0.1: Adding localhost to control/locals... 192.168.1.1: PTR lookup failed. I assume this address has no DNS name. 192.168.3.1: PTR lookup failed. I assume this address has no DNS name. 200.188.33.106: Adding ol33-106.openlink.com.br to control/locals... If there are any other domain names that point to you, you will have to add them to /var/qmail/control/locals. You don't have to worry about aliases, i.e., domains with CNAME records. Copying /var/qmail/control/locals to /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts... Now qmail will refuse to accept SMTP messages except to those hosts. Make sure to change rcpthosts if you add hosts to locals or virtualdomains! Now, I Ask. There are some errors on this compilation, or not? This looks in order to me... -Stephen-
Re: Re: Message Error
Dear Kai, I know that each user will need theses directory in your home. But the problem is: How I can do it? Because I have more 100 users in system. There is some utility or some command that do it just once? Hugs, Frederiko Costa Rio de Janeiro-Brazil On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:33:01 -0700, Kai MacTane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 4/18/2000 11:45 AM -0600, Steve Wolfe wrote or quoted: better answer: Each user will need in their home directory: ~/Maildir/ ~/Maildir/new ~/Maildir/cur ~/Maildir/tmp all with permissions 600. They should also have a .qmail file containing "./Maildir/". The permissions should be 700, not 600. The user should be able to execute (i.e., cd to) each directory. - Kai MacTane System Administrator Online Partners.com, Inc. - From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996) finger trouble /n./ Mistyping, typos, or generalized keyboard incompetence (this is surprisingly common among hackers, given the amount of time they spend at keyboards). "I keep putting colons at the end of statements instead of semicolons", "Finger trouble again, eh?".
Check timestamps
Is there a way to check when a qmail-qpop user (Maildir format) last checked their email? Is there a timestamp left anywhere? Thanks, Jose de Leon System Administrator InVision Telecommunications (209) 549-8800
Re: Re: Message Error
I know that each user will need theses directory in your home. But the
problem is: How I can do it? Because I have more 100 users in system. There
is some utility or some command that do it just once?
I was hoping that someone else had a utility to do it. : )
For new users, I have the .qmail and Maildir directory structure in the
.skel directory, so they get it by default. For existing users, I use a
perl script called "qmailsetup". It's not exactly world-class programming,
and could use some error checking. I'll provide the contents here with a
warning that although it works fine for me, it's not exactly the best piece
of work out there, just a quickly-hacked-together program, as are most
things in this shop because of time constraints.
---
#!/usr/bin/perl
$username=($ARGV[0]);
$file="~$username/.qmail";
system("echo ./Maildir/$file");
system("/usr/bin/qmail/maildirmake ~$username/Maildir");
system("chown $username.popusers ~$username/.qmail");
system("chown -R $username.popusers ~$username/Maildir");
exit(0);
-
And before everyone flames me for abominable coding, I didn't write it,
and I have no less than 107 higher-priority projects at the moment. : )
steve
Re: Check timestamps
Jose de Leon writes: Is there a way to check when a qmail-qpop user (Maildir format) last checked their email? Is there a timestamp left anywhere? Sort-of, but not really. You could check the read timestamp on .../cur, but that's not really reliable. Look at what qmail-popbull does, which is to touch a timestamp file. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | "Ask not what your country 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | can force other people to Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | do for you..." -Perry M.
Unable to receive outside email
I am unable to receive mail from outside of the local machine. Internal works fine, any suggestions. Log shows: @400038fcda11227c25dc delivery 1182: deferral: Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._( #4.2.1)/ @400038fcda11227c54bc status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 @400038fcda2e21ebd0a4 starting delivery 1183: msg 226713 to local user@ host.net Thanks, Ben Anderson
Re: mail-abuse.org
Peter van Dijk wrote: On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 07:08:39PM -0400, Len Budney wrote: "Luis Bezerra" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [edited out] Or are you an autoresponder? If so, are you available under the GPL? Maybe I can run you from procmail, to annoy people who annoy me. If not GPL, then we'll just reverse-engineer him and open the source up anyway :) ROTFL
WebMail
I'm looking for some real life experiences/opinions on a web interface that reads mail directly from Maildir. I'm interested in offering a web interface for my customers. I'm running qmail 1.03 with the pop3d daemon. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Travis Leuthauser Network Administrator DDS Group Ph: (225) 667-4992 Fax: (225) 667-4312
Qmail config: getting closer additional info
When testing reciving mail as documented in TEST.receive, I follow the steps as follows but when I log in to the user's account and type the '$mail' command I receive "no mail for user" : . SMTP server test: Forge some mail locally via SMTP. Replace ``me'' with your username and ``domain'' with your host's name. % telnet 127.0.0.1 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to 127.0.0.1. Escape character is '^]'. 220 domain ESMTP helo dude 250 domain mail me@domain 250 ok rcpt me@domain 250 ok data 354 go ahead Subject: testing This is a test. . 250 ok 812345679 qp 12345 quit 221 domain Connection closed by foreign host. % My original message follows: In testing my senmail config, I follow the steps documented in TEST.deliver with the following results: 1. When I send to a local user from the root account via the "echo to: me | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject" command, I see the success message in the /var/loq/qmail dir log file. But, when I log into the machine as that user and type the mail command, the response is " no mail for user". 2. When I send to my hotmail account via "echo to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject", account I see an empty message in my hotmail account. But when I send to my account at my employer (at work) from my new qmail box at home (on separate domain)via the " echo to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject" command, I don't receive the test message from my lotus notes client (at work). This is probably the answer to #2 but I'm not sure: I can traceroute from the qmail box to 'hotmail.com' but the traceroute to 'candle.com' fails to finish. All I see is a repeated "***". Prior to running the test, I converted to Maildir from mailbox and changed the rc file to reflect this as well as run: %maildirmake $HOME/Maildir AND %maildirmake $HOME/Maildir in existing user's directory To the Point, aside from the traceroute issue why can i not see the message in my user's system acount when I type the '%mail' command? Am I overlooking something? My ultimate goal is to: ALLOW POP MAIL CLIENTS (WIN98) TO SEND /RECEIVE MAIL USING THE QMAIL SERVER I'm getting closer and would appreaciate any help that anyone can give. --Tim
Re: WebMail
sqwebmail is good stuff. www.inter7.com/sqwebmail - Original Message - From: "Travis Leuthauser" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 2:18 PM Subject: WebMail I'm looking for some real life experiences/opinions on a web interface that reads mail directly from Maildir. I'm interested in offering a web interface for my customers. I'm running qmail 1.03 with the pop3d daemon. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Travis Leuthauser Network Administrator DDS Group Ph: (225) 667-4992 Fax: (225) 667-4312
qmail + vpopmail problems...
Hi I have just installed qmail + vpopmail, I have also configured the roaming users capability (at least tryed to ;), the virtual pop mail works, I created a virtual domain, I can send email to it and receive via the pop-server, one of the problems I have is that I cannot access mail for users in the /etc/passwd file, I would like to have to type of users virtual pop users and users in the /etc/passwd file. Another thing that dosent seem to work is the roaming-users thing, when I correctly authentificate with the pop server I cannot send mail through my SMTP server, is there a way to check the cdb database?. Any help would be appreciated. :) Mario e-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using perl to send a list message (with qmail)
Not tested. May provoke unpleasent censure. Use at own risk.
open (LIST,"/home/justin/www/cgi-bin/lovely_people.list");
foreach (LIST) {
#send mail to "$_"
}
2)this list has about 1000 people, and it takes more than a couple minutes
for perl to go through that all,making my program look like its hanging
There's always
fork and goto GLADTHATSOVER
close STDOUT;
open (LIST,"/home/justin/www/cgi-bin/lovely_people.list");
foreach (LIST) {
#send mail to "$_"
}
exit;
GLADTHATSOVER:
And since you've now got all the time you need to process the list,
you can even save bandwidth by arranging them by destination host
and invoking qmail-remote directly:
%Recipients=();
while(LIST){
my($name,$host) = m/^\s*([^@]+)\@([^@]+)\s*\Z/ or next;
$Recipients{$host} = [ $name.'@'.$host, @{$Recipients{$host}}];
};
for(keys %Recipents){
$/ = "\0";#match qmail-remote's idea of how to end a report item
open QR,"/var/qmail/bin/qmail-remote $_ justin\@summerspam.com
@{$Recipients{$_}}lovelymessage|";
while(QR){
$This = shift @{$Recipients{$_}};
next if $This =~ m/^K/; # delivery successful
# otherwise, queue it up for later
system"/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject -r -fjustin\@summerspam.com
$Thislovelymessage|";
};
};
Good lord! I'm instructing the world how to send thousands of e-mails
from within a CGI! Please use this for good and not for evil!
I'd better insert some tactical syntactic problems...
While we're at it, would anyone like some blue prints for atomic
weapons?
Compiling
what it means when i compile qmail with make setup check: ./load auto-uid substdio.a error.a str.a fs.a ./compile auto-gid.cauto-gid.c: In function `main':auto-gid.c:20: warning: return type of `main' is not `int'./load auto-gid substdio.a error.a str.a fs.a ... qmail-start.c: In function `main':qmail-start.c:31: warning: return type of `main' is not `int' ..* Thanks.
Re: Compiling
I have posted the same question in the past. Apparently it is not an error. Nothing to worry about. If you need a technical explanation you will find it in the archives as their was much discussion as the result of my post. Kristina At 02:04 00/04/19 +0200, you wrote: what it means when i compile qmail with make setup check: ./load auto-uid substdio.a error.a str.a fs.a ./compile auto-gid.c auto-gid.c: In function `main': auto-gid.c:20: warning: return type of `main' is not `int' ./load auto-gid substdio.a error.a str.a fs.a ... in the complete proccess... qmail-start.c: In function `main': qmail-start.c:31: warning: return type of `main' is not `int' ..*it's really an error main is not int and what ? Thanks. mike
Re: How to set /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-xxxx ./Maildir/ up.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 10:13:36AM -0700, Anthony White wrote: During my initial tests I had no forwarding set up for '~/alias/.qmail-postmaster' or '~alias/.qmail-root'. Any mail to these accounts placed the mail in 'mbox' format under the '~/alias' directory. However after changing to './Maildir/' these E-Mail messages were no longer stored here. Where do I set up the '/Maildir/' directory for these addresses? The logs should show you what delivery is being made for those addresses, what do they show? Are they delivering or are they failing to deliver and sitting in the queue? Until I set up forwarding to the system admin they sat in the queue as far as I remember. Before setting default delivery to '/Maildir/' format they did appear in the '~/alias' directory. Generally speaking, they will deliver to ./Maildir in ~alias - when you made the Maildir, did you make sure that it and the subdirs are all owned by alias? As I asked in the posting, what should the GRP and OWN be st to for the ~/alias/Maildir ? You mention 'alias for the owner, what about the GRP ? Generated during install -rw-r--r-- 1 aliasnofiles 6 Aug 21 1999 .qmail-bin -rw-r--r-- 1 aliasnofiles 6 Aug 21 1999 .qmail-nobody -rw-r--r-- 1 aliasnofiles 6 Aug 21 1999 .qmail-operator -rw-r--r-- 1 aliasnofiles 6 Aug 21 1999 .qmail-system My entries... -rw-rw-r-- 1 root qmail 10 Apr 13 10:25 .qmail-root -rw-rw-r-- 1 root qmail 10 Apr 13 10:25 .qmail-test -rw-rw-r-- 1 root qmail 10 Apr 13 10:24 .qmail-postmaster -rw-rw-r-- 1 root qmail 10 Apr 13 10:25 .qmail-mailer-daemon Should 'root' own the 4 last in the list or should they be owened by 'alias' ? What about the group 'qmail' ? There are several more with 'grp' 'nofiles' but I have cut the list down for clarity. They were created during install from the '/etc/alias' file. Regards Anthony -- Movielink Pty LtdE-Mail technical: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8-10 River StreetE-Mail Sales: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Richmond, Victoria 3121 Ph : +(61) 3 9428 8088 AustraliaFAX : +(61) 3 9429 5918
Re: How to set /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-xxxx ./Maildir/ up.
On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 10:45:47AM -0700, Anthony White wrote: The logs should show you what delivery is being made for those addresses, what do they show? Are they delivering or are they failing to deliver and sitting in the queue? Until I set up forwarding to the system admin they sat in the queue as far as I remember. Before setting default delivery to '/Maildir/' format they did appear in the '~/alias' directory. Well, the log files would be definitive on this matter. You could turn off the forwarding for a while and see what happens. Generally speaking, they will deliver to ./Maildir in ~alias - when you made the Maildir, did you make sure that it and the subdirs are all owned by alias? As I asked in the posting, what should the GRP and OWN be st to for the ~/alias/Maildir ? You mention 'alias for the owner, what about the GRP ? Qmail delivers them as the user alias, so if alias can write into those directories, then everything is fine. There is no magic in the groups. My entries... -rw-rw-r-- 1 root qmail 10 Apr 13 10:25 .qmail-root -rw-rw-r-- 1 root qmail 10 Apr 13 10:25 .qmail-test -rw-rw-r-- 1 root qmail 10 Apr 13 10:24 .qmail-postmaster -rw-rw-r-- 1 root qmail 10 Apr 13 10:25 .qmail-mailer-daemon Should 'root' own the 4 last in the list or should they be owened by 'alias' ? As a rule I try and have the user of the alias files be the owner, but if Unix lets the user alias read those files, then it's ok. In this case since you have a=r you are fine. To test for sure, su to alias and try and read them with cat or more or somesuch. Regards.
Someone else brought it up, and i noticed mine wasnt working :)
My local deliver to postmaster/root/mailer-daemon isnt working either, now that i check it.. Here's the info. This machine is running vmailmgrd and is working perfectly. Neither mail delivered to postmaster@ the local machine name, or at the virtual domain are being delivered. :/var/qmail/alias$ ls -la total 6 drwxr-sr-x 3 aliasqmail1024 Apr 18 19:17 ./ drwxr-xr-x 10 root qmail1024 Jan 1 1997 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root qmail 11 Apr 18 19:26 .qmail-mailer-daemon -rw-r--r-- 1 root qmail 11 Apr 18 19:26 .qmail-postmaster -rw-r--r-- 1 root qmail 11 Apr 18 19:26 .qmail-root -rw--- 1 root qmail 0 Jun 24 1999 Mailbox drwxr-xr-x 5 root qmail1024 Apr 18 19:17 Maildir/ :/var/qmail/alias$ ls -lr Maildir total 3 drwx--S--- 2 root qmail1024 Apr 18 19:17 tmp/ drwx--S--- 2 root qmail1024 Apr 18 19:17 new/ drwx--S--- 2 root qmail1024 Apr 18 19:17 cur/ [ekool@nivenh][date:Tue Apr 18][time:19:31:15] :/var/qmail/alias$ cat .qmail* ./Mailbox/ ./Mailbox/ ./Mailbox/ And from the log files... Apr 18 19:33:27 nivenh qmail: 956108007.758396 starting delivery 1140003: msg 225318 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 18 19:33:27 nivenh qmail: 956108007.819392 delivery 1140003: deferral: Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)/ I must have the permissions wrong on the Maildir, but i've changed them. I've also changed the contents of the alias files to reflect ./Maildir instead of ./Mailbox to no avail. ___ _ __ _ __ /___ ___ /__ John Gonzalez/Net.Tech __ __ \ __ \ __/_ __ `__ \/ __ /_ ___/ MDC Computers/netMDC! _ / / / `__/ /_ / / / / / / /_/ / / /__ (505)437-7600/fax-437-3052 /_/ /_/\___/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/ \___/ http://www.netmdc.com [-[system info]---] 7:30pm up 85 days, 2:27, 3 users, load average: 0.14, 0.16, 0.16
Re: pop 110 / daemontools / tcpserver / MySQL
the POP service shouldnt be run under supervise. It is started on a PER connection basis. You can either use /etc/inetd.conf to load your pop server, or use the (suggested method) and use tcpserver to invoke it. the LWQ web site is probably the best first stop for information. http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html What format are you storing your email in? Maildir? If so, qmail-pop3d is reccomended, and the LWQ site should be able to walk you through it. On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Mike Alexander Sauvain wrote: but i found no where any example how to make the pop service aviable. and now the final: after sucessfull mysql patch: http://www.softagency.co.jp/mysql/qmail2.en.html it changes these script ? ..thanks again..mike ___ _ __ _ __ /___ ___ /__ John Gonzalez/Net.Tech __ __ \ __ \ __/_ __ `__ \/ __ /_ ___/ MDC Computers/netMDC! _ / / / `__/ /_ / / / / / / /_/ / / /__ (505)437-7600/fax-437-3052 /_/ /_/\___/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/ \___/ http://www.netmdc.com [-[system info]---] 8:05pm up 85 days, 3:02, 3 users, load average: 0.12, 0.22, 0.19
Fw: Compilation
try to do ./config-fast yourhost.dname.top - Original Message - From: Stephen F. Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 7:40 PM Subject: Re: Compilation Marcos dos santos Costa wrote: Dear Friends (again), Well, I compiled again the qmail and when I executed the ./config for check my configuration, it show this: Your hostname is pegasus. Your host's fully qualified name in DNS is ol33-106.openlink.com.br. Putting ol33-106.openlink.com.br into control/me... Putting openlink.com.br into control/defaultdomain... Putting com.br into control/plusdomain... Checking local IP addresses: 127.0.0.1: Adding localhost to control/locals... 192.168.1.1: PTR lookup failed. I assume this address has no DNS name. 192.168.3.1: PTR lookup failed. I assume this address has no DNS name. 200.188.33.106: Adding ol33-106.openlink.com.br to control/locals... If there are any other domain names that point to you, you will have to add them to /var/qmail/control/locals. You don't have to worry about aliases, i.e., domains with CNAME records. Copying /var/qmail/control/locals to /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts... Now qmail will refuse to accept SMTP messages except to those hosts. Make sure to change rcpthosts if you add hosts to locals or virtualdomains! Now, I Ask. There are some errors on this compilation, or not? This looks in order to me... -Stephen-
Re: Qmail on FreeBSD 4.0
Hi, I remember one patch in FreeBSD shortly before 4.0-release which, according to the cvs log, was supposed to fix this problem. I'll see if I can dig it up. If this bug is not fixed someone who is affected should file a PR with FreeBSD gnats. Yep, there was a first attempt at fixing it, but it was incomplete and will result in a kernel panic. I have filed a PR with the proper fix, but it has not been commited yet (PR 17311). Patrick.
pop daemontool
./run in services of deamtools exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ tcpserver 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup host.name.gov \ /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir works, but how i can generate any ouput ? thx mike
Re: Someone else brought it up, and i noticed mine wasnt working :)
Hey guys, I worked it out, very simple... Log in as root. Create the following: (where '~/' is your qmail directory, usually /var/qmail) '~/alias/Maildir' '~/alias/Maildir/cur' '~/alias/Maildir/new' '~/alias/Maildir/tmp' 'chown -R alias /var/qmail/alias/Maildir' 'chgrp -R qmail /var/qmail/alias/Maildir' 'chmod -R 700 /var/qmail/alias/Maildir' Now the mail directory and its sub directories are all owned by 'alias'. The group ownership is set to 'qmail'. Maybe this does not matter as the permissions are set to allow access for owner use only. Also make sure that the '.qmail-xyz' files are owned by 'alias' and the group ownership is 'qmail' for the ones you set up. (Do not change the ones that the install created from the '/etc/alias' file) Now you can set up the content of the '.qmail-xyz' file. In my example the file is '.qmail-test'. The file should contain "./Maildir/" (Without the quotes) and nothing else. If you want '.qmail-test' to redirect to a user then change the content to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (Or just "user_name" if local) again without the quotes. I have just tested it out and it works fine. I think that my main problem was using 'maildirmake' to create a '/Maildir' which created it under the '/root' directory. Qmail will not deliver to the 'root' account. Copying '/Maildir' to '~/alias/Maildir also failed to allow the mail to be put into the '~/alias/Maildir/new' due to the ownership being root. Lastly the '.qmail-test' was also owned by 'root' which I think also stops delivery to the '/Maildir' under '~/alias' Sending mail to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' now puts the mail in the '~/alias/Maildir' directory. -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- On an other note: Does anyone know how to set up qmail pop to get the mail from the '~/alias/Maildir' "account". I would like to be able to check this "account" as if it is a 'normal' account, (With Netscape) without having an account set up on the Linux box. What about a password for access? Best regards Anthony -- Movielink Pty LtdE-Mail technical: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8-10 River StreetE-Mail Sales: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Richmond, Victoria 3121 Ph : +(61) 3 9428 8088 AustraliaFAX : +(61) 3 9429 5918
Re: Check timestamps
From: "Jose de Leon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:24:47 -0700 What exactly do you mean by "not really reliable"? Do you mean sometimes the cur dir timestamps and sometimes it doesn't? Or do you mean that the timestamp itself may be off a few minutes? If it is off a few minutes, I can work with that. I think he means that it is too easy to update the access timestamp by accident, e.g. by doing a backup. -- Bob Rogers
Re: Re[2]: backup mail server
From: Andy Bradford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 08:55:46 -0600 Yes seriously. Most MTA's will queue email for at least 3 days, so unless your hardware failure lasts that long then you should be fine. Andy But not always. My ISP (which shall remain nameless -- ;-) bounced an email I sent myself from work after trying to deliver it for less than an hour. To add insult to injury, the only reason they couldn't deliver it was because of their own internal outage -- an outage that lasted five hours. So I am considering an alternate MX myself. (Yes, I know; a better solution would be to get another ISP.) -- Bob Rogers
qmail deleting Maildir/cur directory (fwd)
I am having a really odd problem; qmail keeps deleting my Maildir/cur directory. None of my users have ever had this problem, and I only have this problem on my non-root account. What could be going on? I am using Pine, and I am not sure if that could be the problem or not... frankly I am pretty confused as to what the heck is happening. Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated. For the record this has happened twice, and I am suspicious of Netscape Messenger, even though I rarely use it (only at school for this account) and I have it configured to leave messages on the server after it downloads them. Thanks. // Ian Shaughnessy // [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: qmail deleting Maildir/cur directory (fwd)
On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 09:42:14PM -0700, Ian Shaughnessy wrote: I am having a really odd problem; qmail keeps deleting my Maildir/cur Really? Perhaps it would help if you identified *when* it got deleted. Does it get deleted when new mail arrives, when you start pine when you pop in to get mail, when? Saying "qmail keeps deleting" is not very helpful. directory. None of my users have ever had this problem, and I only have this problem on my non-root account. What could be going on? I am using Pine, and I am not sure if that could be the problem or not... frankly I am pretty confused as to what the heck is happening. Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated. For the record this has happened twice, and I am suspicious of Netscape Messenger, even though I rarely use it (only at school for this account) and I have it configured to leave messages on the server after it downloads them. Thanks. // Ian Shaughnessy // [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: qmail deleting Maildir/cur directory (fwd)
Thats one of the things.. I am not sure exactly when. Sometime between 11am and 2pm today, that much I can give you, but I have scoured the logs for any hint of when this might be happening and I cant find anything. All I know is when I checked my mail this morning it was all there, but when I checked it this afternoon it wasnt. Quite confusing, definately. and like I said, the log files provided no help what so ever. They all just read like "blah blah mail message delivered successfuly" and when users have logged in. // Ian Shaughnessy // [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 09:42:14PM -0700, Ian Shaughnessy wrote: I am having a really odd problem; qmail keeps deleting my Maildir/cur Really? Perhaps it would help if you identified *when* it got deleted. Does it get deleted when new mail arrives, when you start pine when you pop in to get mail, when? Saying "qmail keeps deleting" is not very helpful. directory. None of my users have ever had this problem, and I only have this problem on my non-root account. What could be going on? I am using Pine, and I am not sure if that could be the problem or not... frankly I am pretty confused as to what the heck is happening. Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated. For the record this has happened twice, and I am suspicious of Netscape Messenger, even though I rarely use it (only at school for this account) and I have it configured to leave messages on the server after it downloads them. Thanks. // Ian Shaughnessy // [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maildir not working
On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Madhav wrote: Hi all, I have this problem of Maildir not working properly. To install qmail, I have followed all the steps listed in Life with qmail site( including Maildir). In the multilog, I am getting the following message when I send a message from root to one user [EMAIL PROTECTED] server1 is our MX. Mailbox delivery is working properly when I tried. Thanks, Madhav @400038fd3ea12fc16914 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 @400038fd3f942aba9364 new msg 45086 @400038fd3f942abd8164 info msg 45086: bytes 230 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] st.com qp 736 uid 0 @400038fd3f942aecb36c starting delivery 1: msg 45086 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] amailtest.com @400038fd3f942aee5564 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 @400038fd3f94345d3854 delivery 1: deferral: Unable_to_open_./Maildir:_is_a_d irectory._(#4.2.1)/ @400038fd3f94345f092c status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 The log output above is telling you that qmail-local cannot open Maildir because it is a directory and it is expecting it to be a file. Looks like you left off the trailing / in your qmail-start invocation. If the qmail-lspawn delivery instruction ends with a slash, the default delivery format is assumed to be a Maildir. If there is no slash then the default delivery is assumed to be an mbox. _Regardless_ of the names used. So, does your entry look like this qmail-start ./Maildir # INCORRECT or like this qmail-start ./Maildir/ # CORRECT Regards Peter -- Peter Samuel[EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Consultantor at present: eServ. Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +61 2 9206 3410 Fax: +61 2 9281 1301 "If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"
Re: why can't I do this?
Well, this isn't actually for me. I'm trying to create a workaround to allow an upgrade to qmail 1.03 for a client who is currently using a heavily modded qmail 1.01. (the person who made the modifications is gone, and the current source doesn't compile. nice, huh?) Basically, they don't want to store the .qmail files in the home directory, they want to store them in a directory under the home directory.. So, instead of /home/customer/.qmail-info, they want to do /home/customer/customer/.qmail-info.. (And they have software that is writing the .qmail files to /home/customer/customer instead of /home/customer, and I don't have the source to those either.) So it occured to me that they really didn't need a .qmail file for every user, since the directory names they are delvering to are just $EXT. I figured I could just deliver to /home/customer/$EXT/Maildir/. So, any ideas how I can write a .qmail-default to deliver based on the info in the .qmail files in /home/customer/customer/? --Adam On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 07:37:21AM +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote: On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 01:22:05AM -0400, Adam McKenna wrote: in .qmail-default: /home/user/$EXT/Maildir/ This is assuming this .qmail-default file is in user's homedir. I don't think qmail does variable expansion. I also think you are trusting information from outside users too much. Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
