Suggestion...

2000-06-28 Thread Snowcrash


This one may be in the works already.. but has there been any thought
into adding folder capabilities?  I have some users that owuld like to be
able to create custom folders for mail sorting.

Daniel Daley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Building very large Qmail instalations...

2000-06-28 Thread Greg Moeller

I'm one of the admins of a largish Qmail installation (~60,000 mailboxes)
and the hardware we're running it on it near the limit.
(Sun Ultra 450, dual processor, A1000 storage array)
The system is very IO bound, sometimes with a load average of 20-25.
(although usually between 3-8)

Now, we called Sun, asking about a high capacity disk solution, one that might 
help with the IO problems.  (cache on the disk array to take care of all the 
fsyncs Qmail does)
They told us that around 50k-60k mailboxes is about the limit of Qmail.

Now, my question to all of you is how expandable is Qmail, and what's the best 
way to do it?

We're looking to expand the system to 150,000-200,000 mailboxes.

How does Qmail deal with a single storage array linked to multiple load 
balenced servers?

Greg





Re: qmail-lspawn to qmail-local strangeness

2000-06-28 Thread Adam McKenna

On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 07:43:08AM +0200, clemensF wrote:
  Ben Giddings:
 
  (As  an  aside, qmail looks like a great, highly flexible program, but
  man   the   source  needs  work.   Virtually  no  comments  anywhere,
  meaningless  variable  and  function names.  Not a fun thing to search
  through when you're trying to figure something out.)
 
 i give stags a few seconds and then browse through the sources without problems.
 i think they are a delight to read!

I agree, I am not even a programmer (unless you count bash) and I am 
generally able to easily read through the source and find the part I need.

--Adam



Re: Suggestion...

2000-06-28 Thread Steffan Hoeke

Daniel,

On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 01:43:45AM -0500, Snowcrash wrote:
 
 This one may be in the works already.. but has there been any thought
 into adding folder capabilities?  I have some users that owuld like to be
 able to create custom folders for mail sorting.
IMHO this is *not* something qmail should be able to do.
It's more a MUA thing.
Most MUA's i know support creating your own folders to save mail in.
If you want to automate it you could use something like procmail.

 Daniel Daley
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Greetz,
 Steffan 

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qmail-smtp and relaying

2000-06-28 Thread kevin

I have followed the relaying guide and
have all working well, however I needed to start
tcpserver with

tcpserver -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u80 -g80 0 smtp
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 

Now, if I reboot will qmail-smtpd start with different options
or will this now be the default?

Kind regards
Kevin



virtusertable

2000-06-28 Thread Kimberly Vher


dear users,

what is the equivalent of sendmail /etc/virtusertable in qmail to forward
some mails virtually?

thanks! 




Re: virtusertable

2000-06-28 Thread Magnus Bodin

On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 03:14:19PM +0800, Kimberly Vher wrote:
 
 dear users,
 
 what is the equivalent of sendmail /etc/virtusertable in qmail to forward
 some mails virtually?

take a look at the fastforward package:

http://cr.yp.to/fastforward.html

And my examples of virtualdomain configurations:

http://x42.com/qmail/cookbook/domains/

/magnus

--
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qmail loses my users

2000-06-28 Thread Sean Craig

Hi all

Hope you're having a better time than me.

I'm using a qmail-cyrus implementation that works.  I've set up qmail
1.03 from rpm and cyrus 1.6.20 also from rpm.
I've followed the instructions for both cyrus and qmail, dug up a
qmail_deliver_wrapper to shuttle mail from qmail to cyrus, and all
works..almost.

Periodically, and I haven't been able to narrow this down to any
specific event, qmail overwrites my ~/users/assign file, and rebuilds
the cdb.

I also find a huge mail log 'cause qmail tries to deliver a copy of
every message to a non-existent [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Any ideas would really be appreciated.

Regards

Sean Craig





Re: Fwd: large batch mailings with qmail

2000-06-28 Thread Greg Cope

Thomas Duterme wrote:
 
 A quick (well, perhaps vast) question about doing large batch mailings with
 qmail.  I'm administering a qmail box currently and need to prepare to do
 mailings for our current user baseee (which has now grown to 300K)  Actually,
 we are planning on doing weekly mailings based after filtering our
 database, so realistically, I may need to mail 50-60K users per shot.  I
 have never administered this large of a mailing and my previous experience
 is simply limited to writing a python script for flat txt files of emails
 (at that time, they never exceeded 10,000)
 
 My qmail server sits on a DELL 4300, PIII, 512K box with a 10Mb/s dedicated
 connection.  Because of my inexperience in these matters, I'm concerned on
 how to approach this task.  How have other people done this?  How much of a
 load can qmail take at a time when sending out batches? (ie. I'm worried
 about buffering and potential problems caused with long quenes) What's a
 good way to calculate the rate of spawning?  (ie the time it will take the
 server to send out 100K messages)  Also, what are the methods that most
 people use to actually do the mailouts? (ie. my python script)?  Are there
 any good resources out there regarding batch mailing procedures?  Any
 advice will be very appreciated.

I'm doing the same thing - but on Sendmail at the mo!

I've found the perl module Mail::Bulkmail - you give it a message, and a
file of emails and it will inject it into the queue PDQ.

As for tweaking qmail - I've only a few obviuos ideas - like increasing
concurrency remote.

I would be very interesting from other more experience list members on
the advantage of using qmail and what needs to be done to tweak outbound
mailing.

Also is tweaking would be a factor of machine load, process type, memory
and outbound bandwidth - has any any cluse on what a PIII 600 with 256
meg Ram and a U2W scsi drive will do ?

Any ideas gratefully recieved.

Greg Cope
 
 Thank you,
 Thomas
 
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blocking aliases

2000-06-28 Thread RajKumar S.

hello all,

I have qmail server as my external server which receives my external mail
and fwds it to my internal (in the local network) sendmail which
distributes to the users who are in the private local network.

i have setup some aliases in the internal server like [EMAIL PROTECTED]
which when activated will send the mail to all the users. obviously i have
not activated it till i find a way to disable all external mails to the
aliased accounts.

ie i do not want any one outside to mail to the aliased mails address. 

any help will be much appreciated.

raj

PS: if you mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] now the mail will be accepted but it
will go to the inbox of the user all which is not used.








qmail Digest 28 Jun 2000 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 1046

2000-06-28 Thread qmail-digest-help


qmail Digest 28 Jun 2000 10:00:00 - Issue 1046

Topics (messages 43716 through 43801):

tcpserver missing
43716 by: Fat Toolz

imap
43717 by: Kimberly Vher
43762 by: Dave Sill

qmail-ldap
43718 by: Nguyen Hong Son
43720 by: Fat Toolz
43784 by: Nguyen Hong Son
43788 by: Ricardo Cerqueira

multilog
43719 by: Yuliy Minchev
43723 by: Steffan Hoeke

an error compiling checkpassword-0.81
43721 by: yair linux

Is identd required ? [ possibly off topic ]
43722 by: Greg Cope
43724 by: Rogue Eagle

Qmail on HP
43725 by: Balaji Hare Ram Balaji
43728 by: Giles Lean

Not an unfortunate confluence of interfaces
43726 by: Russell Nelson
43751 by: clemensF

Very long mail queue help a newbie !!!
43727 by: Devinder
43745 by: Russell Nelson
43785 by: Marc-Adrian Napoli

qmail-lspawn to qmail-local strangeness
43729 by: Ben Giddings
43763 by: Dave Sill
43790 by: clemensF
43791 by: Ben Giddings
43794 by: Adam McKenna

SqWebMail
43730 by: Sylwester S. Biernacki

ezmlm no creating mailing lists
43731 by: Kathleen Farber

netscape
43732 by: steffen.ramyam.net
43734 by: steffen.ramyam.net

parse msg-log
43733 by: Jonathan Fortin

starting qmail w errors
43735 by: Fat Toolz
43736 by: Fat Toolz

cyclog and multilog
43737 by: Clifford Thurber
43765 by: Dave Sill

Planning an Install and need Help.
43738 by: Tony Campisi
43761 by: Dave Sill
43770 by: Tony Campisi
43775 by: Dave Sill

bouncing unknown addresses
43739 by: Eric Long
43740 by: Bruno Wolff III
43741 by: Eric Long
43743 by: Bruno Wolff III
43744 by: Eric Long
43746 by: Hubbard, David

mail relaying client
43742 by: John Steniger
43759 by: Dave Sill

Perhaps one of the silliest questions
43747 by: Fat Toolz

Re: Perhaps and even sillier silliest questions
43748 by: John van V.
43749 by: Fat Toolz

Re: alert: cannot start: hath the daemon spawn no fire?
43750 by: Chris Garrigues

Messages in Queue, but not sent
43752 by: Fat Toolz
43754 by: Dave Sill
43768 by: clemensF

authentication with vchkpw
43753 by: Alexey Bolfaine
43781 by: Sylwester S. Biernacki

vchkpw:  No user found error
43755 by: Kathleen Farber
43756 by: Kathleen Farber
43780 by: Sylwester S. Biernacki

vchkpw:  No user found
43757 by: Kathleen Farber

autoresponder problems
43758 by: Kathleen Farber

Problems with my email address???
43760 by: terius

limit to RCPT TO
43764 by: Marcilio Jorgensen Cassella

Re: Mail Server for ISP
43766 by: Dave Sill

Re: Email logging
43767 by: Dave Sill

Re: ? ? ? confused trying to use pop3d
43769 by: Dave Sill

Problems with my email address and the list...
43771 by: terius
43772 by: Steffan Hoeke

Re: End-user controllable fastforward style aliasing?
43773 by: Dave Sill

defaulthost, but not defaulthost...
43774 by: Ben Beuchler
43776 by: Mark Mentovai

ETRN and M$-exchange
43777 by: Alexander Jernejcic

NetApp-like-device for $3000??
43778 by: Andrew Richards

Re: Return-Path header set by qmail?
43779 by: wolfgang zeikat

[NEWBIE] user/assign case insensitivity
43782 by: Jeremy Stanley

nmh and qmail
43783 by: Courtney Eckhardt

sub domains
43786 by: kevin.oceania.net
43789 by: Magnus Bodin

Re: large batch mailings with qmail
43787 by: Thomas Duterme
43800 by: Greg Cope

Suggestion...
43792 by: Snowcrash
43795 by: Steffan Hoeke

Building very large Qmail instalations...
43793 by: Greg Moeller

qmail-smtp and relaying
43796 by: kevin.oceania.net

virtusertable
43797 by: Kimberly Vher
43798 by: Magnus Bodin

qmail loses my users
43799 by: Sean Craig

blocking aliases
43801 by: RajKumar S.

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I just tried to reinstall my complete qmail to get 
a better overview about how things get done. So I just took the rpms as 
described in 
europe.redhat.com/documentation/HOWTO/Qmail-VmailMgr-Courier-imap-HOWTO.php3

I'm using RH 6.2. After compiling the qmail-1.03+patches-14.src.rpm the installation gives 
a 

/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.11052: tcprules: command not 
found
'Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-rmp.11052 
(%install)'


Can you please tell me where to find the 

how to set up virtual domain with LDAP

2000-06-28 Thread reach_prashant


  i have compiled qmail 1.03 , with qmail-ldap latest patch , 

i am able to send and receive mails in to ~home/user/Maildir for my domain
say "mydomain.com"  

 now i want set it up for virtual domains  
say  "virtualdomain.com"

 i have done "rcpthost" , "virtualdomains" and ".qmail part " to accept
mails for virtual domain and FW it to other place  , 

my problem is 
 but how can i configure my qmail/Ldap directory server to accept mails for


 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 and put them in to their respective  /Home/User/Maildir

 can this be possible  by defining maildirstore in LDAP (directory server )
and instruct qmail to take delievery directory from Directory server or
some thing like that 

  is there any workaround for this problem 


 
is there any solution that will work with qmail-ldap because i am not using
 /etc/passwd 


thanks in advance 

Prashant desai 




RE: blocking aliases

2000-06-28 Thread Hubbard, David

Hey Raj,
how do you do the forwarding to the internal mail
server?  Do you have a virtualdomains entry set up for
indsoft.co.in?  If so, let's pretend that you have an
entry like this:

indsoft.co.in:username

And then maybe in username's directory, you have a .qmail*
of some type that handles the forwarding to the internal
mail server.  I think you could create a rule in your
/.../qmail/users/assign file that says something like
=username-all:blockall:uid:gid:directory:::
where the 'blockall', uid, and gid, are an actual user
account on your front-end computer.  In blockall's
directory, you put a .qmail  .qmail-default that has
your email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I think if you did that, the rule would catch any incoming
[EMAIL PROTECTED] emails and forward them to you instead
of to the internal mail server.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: RajKumar S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 5:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: blocking aliases


hello all,

I have qmail server as my external server which receives my external mail
and fwds it to my internal (in the local network) sendmail which
distributes to the users who are in the private local network.

i have setup some aliases in the internal server like [EMAIL PROTECTED]
which when activated will send the mail to all the users. obviously i have
not activated it till i find a way to disable all external mails to the
aliased accounts.

ie i do not want any one outside to mail to the aliased mails address. 

any help will be much appreciated.

raj

PS: if you mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] now the mail will be accepted but it
will go to the inbox of the user all which is not used.







RE: blocking aliases

2000-06-28 Thread RajKumar S.

On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Hubbard, David wrote:

dave   how do you do the forwarding to the internal mail server?  
dave Do you have a virtualdomains entry set up for

sorry for not including the detail before 

I do the forwading by smtproutes which says
indsoft.co.in:[192.168.1.1]

raj




Queue Problems

2000-06-28 Thread Cedric Revest

Hi Everyone,

When I issue a /var/qmail/bin/qmail-qstat i get:

messages in queue: 4
messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0

Straight after I issue a /var/qmail/bin/qmail-qread and get:

nothing at all

Also clients have been getting times out when trying to send mail...

Any ideas?
(the set up has been working fine for 3 months..)


Regards

Cedric


---
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Britnet Ltd
http://www.britnet.co.uk/

Direct Line: 0208 962 9542
Fax: 0208 964 8457





How to do a reverse DNS lookup in Qmail ?

2000-06-28 Thread Shashi Dahal

Dear All,

Sorry for this question, but whenever my server accepts an incomming 
connection, how do I set qmail to do a reverse dns lookup and reject the 
mail if the sender domian does not exist.



Thanks
Shashi Dahal.




Spamming - HELO linux.remotefirewalls.com.

2000-06-28 Thread Shashi Dahal

Dear All

 In the past few days, One of my server is being flooded. The from and the 
to address is of my own domain so I cannot put that in badmailfrom. Looks 
like someone is trying to flood our servers by sending a lot of junk mails.

As per the example below, the only thing that is common is HELO 
linux.remotefirewalls.com.
How do I stop receiving mails via such domain. Writing to the postmaster 
there might take a long time and the servers might change.
I am using qmail 1.03 and Redhat Linux 6.0.


Thanks in Advance,
Shashi Dahal

-
Received: (qmail 24885 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2000 07:05:16 -
Received: from unknown (HELO linux.remotefirewalls.com) (207.105.53.78)
   by trishakti.wlink.com.np with SMTP; 28 Jun 2000 07:05:16 -
Received: from gateway ([192.168.51.51])
 by linux.remotefirewalls.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA03175;
 Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:51:26 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: "BIT INFO COM" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "a" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:07:02 -0700
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: audio/mpeg;
 name="papa_the_great-aao_humse[1].mp3"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment;
 filename="papa_the_great-aao_humse[1].mp3"
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600

- 
-




Re: Spamming - HELO linux.remotefirewalls.com.

2000-06-28 Thread Johan Almqvist


 As per the example below, the only thing that is common is HELO 
 linux.remotefirewalls.com.
 How do I stop receiving mails via such domain. Writing to the postmaster 
 there might take a long time and the servers might change.
 I am using qmail 1.03 and Redhat Linux 6.0.

How about blocking the sender's IP in /etc/tcpcontrol/smtp.rules (or
where that is on your system) - just add a line

207.105.53.78:deny

and they will not be allowed to speak to your server. Another possibility
is locking them out with

ipchains -A -s 207.105.53.78 --destination-port 25 -j DENY

(assuming Linux)

-Johan
-- 
Johan Almqvist



Re: qmail loses my users

2000-06-28 Thread Ondrej Sury

Sean Craig wrote:
 
 Hi all
 
 Hope you're having a better time than me.
 
 I'm using a qmail-cyrus implementation that works.  I've set up qmail
 1.03 from rpm and cyrus 1.6.20 also from rpm.
 I've followed the instructions for both cyrus and qmail, dug up a
 qmail_deliver_wrapper to shuttle mail from qmail to cyrus, and all
 works..almost.
 
 Periodically, and I haven't been able to narrow this down to any
 specific event, qmail overwrites my ~/users/assign file, and rebuilds
 the cdb.
 
 I also find a huge mail log 'cause qmail tries to deliver a copy of
 every message to a non-existent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Any ideas would really be appreciated.

Again GOD damn those RPMs.  Check your crontable.  Bruce have you
thinked about removing that crontab script from RPMs?  It is causing
more confusion than usefullness.

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Mob: +420602667702 ICQ: 24944126  Mapa: http://globe.namape.cz/
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qmail-ldap file permissions

2000-06-28 Thread prashant

hello list


can some one tell me what file permissions are required
for
1  ~Home/Maildir
2Maildir
3 cur
4 new
5 tmp

 i have tried giving it  644 but its not working qmail is not able to
deliever mail nor qmail-pop3d  is able
to retrive mails from users  /Maildir/new

when i made it 777 for /Maildir/*
and 755 for Maildir

its working fine

but i cant make it 777 , so want to know what it should be and why its not
working in my case
i am using qmail 1-03 with qmail-ldap-2601-patch compiled on RedHat
linux 6.1

please guide me

regards
Prashant Desai






Re: qmail loses my users - fixed

2000-06-28 Thread Sean Craig

Hi Ondrej, everybody

Thats the one, /etc/cron.hourly/qmail

A nice idea if you have an open system where your users can log in, but
kinda screws things up if you want to create a closed system.  In my case,

my cyrus users are authenticated from a mysql db.

Maybe this file is worth a note in the RPM documentation.

thanks again

Sean Craig

Ondrej Sury wrote:

 Sean Craig wrote:
 
  Hi all
 
  Hope you're having a better time than me.
 
  Periodically, and I haven't been able to narrow this down to any
  specific event, qmail overwrites my ~/users/assign file, and rebuilds
  the cdb.
 
  I also find a huge mail log 'cause qmail tries to deliver a copy of
  every message to a non-existent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Any ideas would really be appreciated.

 Again GOD damn those RPMs.  Check your crontable.  Bruce have you
 thinked about removing that crontab script from RPMs?  It is causing
 more confusion than usefullness.

 --
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 Tel: +420235365000 Fax: +420235365009  Plánièkova 1, 162 00 Praha 6
 Mob: +420602667702 ICQ: 24944126  Mapa: http://globe.namape.cz/
 NAJDI.TO http://najdi.to/Chief Administrator and Developer.




Re: How to do a reverse DNS lookup in Qmail ?

2000-06-28 Thread Erwin Hoffmann

Hi, 

you can use the MFCHECK patch from QMAIL's home page or my SPAMCONTROL
patch which includes it.

http://www.fehcom.de/qmail_en.html

cheers
eh.

At 16:43 28.6.2000 +0545, Shashi Dahal wrote:
Dear All,

Sorry for this question, but whenever my server accepts an incomming 
connection, how do I set qmail to do a reverse dns lookup and reject the 
mail if the sender domian does not exist.



Thanks
Shashi Dahal.


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Re: How to do a reverse DNS lookup in Qmail ?

2000-06-28 Thread clesur

Hy !

If you use tcpserver (ucspi package), simply add the -p parameter to tcpserver command 
line.

This will force the "paranoid" mode and tcpserver will do a reverse DNS check.

Regards, Chris.



Diff between Supervise Tcpserver?

2000-06-28 Thread Brett Randall



Hi guys. This is probly a simple question but I can't find an 
obvious answer anywhere.As far as I can tell, there are three ways to run Qmail: 
Inetd (yuck), tcpserver (regular), and supervisor (??). I have set up a new 
master qmail server up with supervisor (just for testing sake) and it runs fine, 
but all my other qmail servers run tcpserver with no probs as well. Can anyone 
tell me what the difference is between simply running a qmail smtp daemon 
through tcpserver, and settingup all the weird supervisor stuff is? I have 
to document it in layman's terms for a client, and don't really know 
advantages/disadvantages of either.

Thanks,

BR


RE: Diff between Supervise Tcpserver?

2000-06-28 Thread Greg Owen


 Hi guys. This is probly a simple question but I can't
 find an obvious answer anywhere.As far as I can tell,
 there are three ways to run Qmail: Inetd (yuck), tcpserver
 (regular), and supervisor (??).

Inetd and tcpserver are programs designed to accept traffic on a
port and start a given program in response to that traffic.

supervise is designed to start a program, restart it if it fails
unexpectedly, and provide an easy way to pass signals to the program.

So, you would use supervise to start tcpserver which starts
qmail-smtpd, and if tcpserver died supervise would restart it for you.

Given the reliability of qmail and related tools, I've always
wondered why supervise came about ;.  You can use it or not, as you prefer.

--
  gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Diff between Supervise Tcpserver?

2000-06-28 Thread Brett Randall

Thanks for that...

One other thing now. I want to use multilog to log on machines not running
supervise, because we just want simple set up and I want to be able to parse
the log files through either qmailanalog or qmail-mrtg (any recommendations
here?). Is this easy to do?

Thanks,

BR
-Original Message-
From: Greg Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 11:04 PM
Subject: RE: Diff between Supervise  Tcpserver?



 Hi guys. This is probly a simple question but I can't
 find an obvious answer anywhere.As far as I can tell,
 there are three ways to run Qmail: Inetd (yuck), tcpserver
 (regular), and supervisor (??).

 Inetd and tcpserver are programs designed to accept traffic on a
port and start a given program in response to that traffic.

 supervise is designed to start a program, restart it if it fails
unexpectedly, and provide an easy way to pass signals to the program.

 So, you would use supervise to start tcpserver which starts
qmail-smtpd, and if tcpserver died supervise would restart it for you.

 Given the reliability of qmail and related tools, I've always
wondered why supervise came about ;.  You can use it or not, as you
prefer.

--
  gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]




15.000 users!! howto ?

2000-06-28 Thread mario libraro

Hi,

I am Mario Libraro and this is the first time i write on this mailing list..

I have to setup a mailserver with 15000 (or probably, in a next future
up to 20.000) users. The info about user accounts are now in a MSAccess
database but i can
convert them in any plain text fashion.
My questions are:

- is it difficult to load 15000 user acconuts in qmail with a script (using
the database or a text list)? This
implies that i must load 15000 user accounts in the system (/etc/passwd)  ?

and...

- is there a webmail module for qmail ?
- is it possible for users to remotely change mail password and add mail
aliases ?
- is it possible for an administrator to remotely add/modify/remove accounts
?

Thanks in advance..!!

Mario Libraro






RE: Diff between Supervise Tcpserver?

2000-06-28 Thread Greg Owen

 One other thing now. I want to use multilog to log on 
 machines not running supervise, because we just want
 simple set up and I want to be able to parse the log
 files through either qmailanalog or qmail-mrtg (any 
 recommendations here?). Is this easy to do?

Sure, just replace 'splogger' in your qmail-start invocation
(/var/qmail/rc in the INSTALL directions) with the appropriate 'multilog'
line.  qmailanalog won't correctly handle the new timestamps that the newest
multilog uses, but there are ways to work around that - I've attached two
relevant messages.

-- 
gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Ken Jones writes:
  
  Does anyone have a patch to qmailanalog to read
  the new multilog time format?

There's two (2) patches to create a program which accepts multilog
time format (tai64n) and rewrites it into fractional seconds (taifrac)
format.  They're listed on www.qmail.org.

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Not using the patches from www.qmail.org, but this works for me

Script to convert to a format qmailanalog likes

#!/usr/bin/perl

while () {
  if (my($s,$t,$rest)=/^\@.(\w{15})(\w{8})(.*)/) {
$s = hex($s);
$t = hex($t); $t =~ s/500$//;
$_ = "$s.$t$rest\n";
}
  } continue {
print;
  }
exit 0;

Script to process the logs and mail to me

#!/bin/sh
PATH=/usr/local/qmailanalog/bin:/var/qmail/bin:/bin:/usr/bin
QMAILLOG="/tmp/q.$$"
QMAILTMP="/tmp/r.$$"
umask 077
cat /var/log/qmail/@*  $QMAILTMP
cat /var/log/qmail/current  $QMAILTMP
cat $QMAILTMP | tai64n2time | matchup  $QMAILLOG 5/dev/null

DATE=`date +'%a %d %b'`
(echo "To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
echo "From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
echo "Subject: Qmail daily report $DATE"
echo ""
zoverall  $QMAILLOG) | qmail-inject

rm -f $QMAILLOG
rm -f $QMAILTMP

-Original Message-
From: kbo [mailto:kbo]On Behalf Of Ken Jones
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 3:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: qmailanalog and multilog


Does anyone have a patch to qmailanalog to read
the new multilog time format?

Ken Jones
inter7




Re: 15.000 users!! howto ?

2000-06-28 Thread System Administrator

Hi

you can checkout www.qmail.org for complete details on web module and
everything on qmail

regards,

parag mehta
On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, mario libraro wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I am Mario Libraro and this is the first time i write on this mailing list..
 
 I have to setup a mailserver with 15000 (or probably, in a next future
 up to 20.000) users. The info about user accounts are now in a MSAccess
 database but i can
 convert them in any plain text fashion.
 My questions are:
 
 - is it difficult to load 15000 user acconuts in qmail with a script (using
 the database or a text list)? This
 implies that i must load 15000 user accounts in the system (/etc/passwd)  ?
 
 and...
 
 - is there a webmail module for qmail ?
 - is it possible for users to remotely change mail password and add mail
 aliases ?
 - is it possible for an administrator to remotely add/modify/remove accounts
 ?
 
 Thanks in advance..!!
 
 Mario Libraro
 
 
 
 

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System Administrator.
Puretech Internet Pvt. Ltd.http://puretech.co.in/ 
77 Atlanta. Nariman Point.
Mumbai - 400021. India.Tel: +91-22-2833158  

Support is now available thru our Web Based Support System.
http://support.puretech.co.in







RE: qmail loses my users

2000-06-28 Thread Greg Owen

 Periodically, and I haven't been able to narrow this down to any
 specific event, qmail overwrites my ~/users/assign file, and rebuilds
 the cdb.

Checked all your cron entries?

 I also find a huge mail log 'cause qmail tries to deliver a copy of
 every message to a non-existent [EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#queue_extra will explain why it's
trying to log a copy.  If you find what alias it is using to log to ('log'
in the example, 'msglog' for you, perhaps) you can drop those messages by
creating /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-name (where name is 'log', 'msglog', or
whatever your system was compiled to use) and putting a single '#' in the
file.

In the long term, if you don't want logging, you may want to
recompile without QUEUE_EXTRA.  The extra deliveries show up in the logs
even if you drop the mail using '#' in the .qmail file.

-- 
gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: Spamming - HELO linux.remotefirewalls.com.

2000-06-28 Thread ksemat

I think a procmail rule to filter this out would do the trick read the
documentation on procmail I think you will have to set your defaults in
/etc/procmailrc. It is all there in the manual page.
 On Wed, 28 Jun 2000,
Shashi Dahal wrote:

 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:35:57 +0545
 From: Shashi Dahal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Spamming - HELO linux.remotefirewalls.com.
 
 Dear All
 
In the past few days, One of my server is being flooded. The from and the 
 to address is of my own domain so I cannot put that in badmailfrom. Looks 
 like someone is trying to flood our servers by sending a lot of junk mails.
 
 As per the example below, the only thing that is common is HELO 
 linux.remotefirewalls.com.
 How do I stop receiving mails via such domain. Writing to the postmaster 
 there might take a long time and the servers might change.
 I am using qmail 1.03 and Redhat Linux 6.0.
 
 
 Thanks in Advance,
 Shashi Dahal
 
 
-
 Received: (qmail 24885 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2000 07:05:16 -
 Received: from unknown (HELO linux.remotefirewalls.com) (207.105.53.78)
by trishakti.wlink.com.np with SMTP; 28 Jun 2000 07:05:16 -
 Received: from gateway ([192.168.51.51])
  by linux.remotefirewalls.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA03175;
  Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:51:26 -0700
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: "BIT INFO COM" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "a" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:
 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:07:02 -0700
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: audio/mpeg;
  name="papa_the_great-aao_humse[1].mp3"
 
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
 Content-Disposition: attachment;
  filename="papa_the_great-aao_humse[1].mp3"
 X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
 Importance: Normal
 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600
 
 
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Re: selective relaying: two smtpd´s?

2000-06-28 Thread Markus Stumpf

On Fri, Jun 23, 2000 at 04:47:44PM +0200, Thilo Bangert wrote:
 i absolutely need to allow my pop3 users relaying, for which i want to use
 relay-ctrl (is there a better solution out there). but that would mean the

You don't need TWO smtp daemons.
Thats why it's called *relay* control.
Just RFTM relay-control-age.8 and put the following line in (standard
setup as referenced in relay-control manuals assumed) the file
/etc/tcpcontrol/smtp.rules (starting at char postition 0)
 :allow

\Maex

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Re: 15.000 users!! howto ?

2000-06-28 Thread Peter Green

also sprach mario.libraro:
 Hi,
 
 I am Mario Libraro and this is the first time i write on this mailing list..
 
 I have to setup a mailserver with 15000 (or probably, in a next future
 up to 20.000) users. The info about user accounts are now in a MSAccess
 database but i can
 convert them in any plain text fashion.

Shouldn't be too much of a problem.

 My questions are:
 
 - is it difficult to load 15000 user acconuts in qmail with a script (using
 the database or a text list)? This
 implies that i must load 15000 user accounts in the system (/etc/passwd)  ?

No, you can use qmail with a single system UID/GID. There is a link off the
qmail.org home page describing how to do so. Alternatively, you can use one
of the packages (vpopmail at www.inter7.com/vpopmail/, vmailmgr at
www.vmailmgr.org) to automate and simplify a lot of this process.

 - is there a webmail module for qmail ?

Tons. Any webmail program that does POP/IMAP is a candidate; just install a
POP/IMAP server for qmail. Also, sqwebmail, oMail, and (I believe) Neomail
(others?) read Maildir/ straight from the filesystem.

Search freshmeat.net for those webmail programs.

 - is it possible for users to remotely change mail password and add mail
 aliases ?

With vpopmail, you'd use qmailadmin. Or sqwebmail supports the password
change as well.

 - is it possible for an administrator to remotely add/modify/remove accounts

qmailadmin here as well, if you're using vpopmail.

Otherwise, there is a Webmin (www.webmin.com/webmin/) module for qmail out
there. Haven't used it, can't say how well it works...

In a nutshell, visit, bookmark, memorize these URLs and you'll be fine:

  www.qmail.org
  Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html

Good luck!

/pg
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two questions

2000-06-28 Thread Clifford Thurber

Hello,
I was wondering if someone could tell me how to have multilog automatically
write standard Unix timestamps to its logfiles instead of the tai64n
format. I know that tai64nlocal will do the conversions but do you know
what the syntax in the run file would need to be changed to. Currently I
have :

#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill /usr/local/bin/multilog t /var/log/qmail

The second questions is the 0 after the gid and before the smtpd keyword in
the following start script for. I know smtp specifies the port but after
looking at the man page I still can't figure out what the 0 is for. Anyways
thanks.





#!/bin/sh
QMAILDUID=`-u qmaild`
NOFILESGID=`-g qmaild`
exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 200  /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x
/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb \
 -u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 21

Clifford Thurber
Web Systems Administrator
LiveUniverse.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
565 5th Ave. 29th Fl.
New York, NY 10017
Ph:212 883 6940  (131)
Fax:212 856 9134



Re: Building very large Qmail instalations...

2000-06-28 Thread Toens Bueker

Greg Moeller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm one of the admins of a largish Qmail installation (~60,000 mailboxes)
 and the hardware we're running it on it near the limit.
 (Sun Ultra 450, dual processor, A1000 storage array)
 The system is very IO bound, sometimes with a load average of 20-25.
 (although usually between 3-8)
 
 Now, we called Sun, asking about a high capacity disk solution, one that might 
 help with the IO problems.  (cache on the disk array to take care of all the 
 fsyncs Qmail does) They told us that around 50k-60k
 mailboxes is about the limit of Qmail. 
 
 Now, my question to all of you is how expandable is Qmail, and what's the best 
 way to do it?
 
 We're looking to expand the system to 150,000-200,000 mailboxes.

Their answer was predictable - at least they have to try
and sell their SIMS.

I don't know about qmail - but as we have used a Sun U2
(two cpus) with 100,000 mailboxes for a short period of
time with sendmail, qmail should easily handle much more.

The problem - in this case - is Suns filesystem and qmails
file operations. You didn't mention the number of disks in
your A1000 - but maybe you should add some and spread the
load between them.

My suggestion, though, would be to dump the E450 and grab
a reasonable sized Intel box (maybe dual PII 500) with FreeBSD
on it. With FreeBSD, ffs and softupdates your i/o
headaches should be gone.

By
Töns
-- 
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sorry, no mailbox by that name

2000-06-28 Thread Jens Georg

hi,

today i got my webserver connected to the internet. of course, there were
some things to do. but the most worst thing i am struggling with is the
following:

i am running qmail together with qmail-pop3d. now, the following problem
occurs today:

i can send emails from console to any of my friends and there is no
problem sending emails from console to one of my virtual domains like
i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] that works all perfectly.

BUT, sending an email to i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] from another host
somewhere on the net always fails with "sorry, no mailbox by that name".

i am trying to fix this since 6 hours now, but i am really confused now
and a little bit tired of reading all the docs. somebody here who solved
this ?

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Re: two questions

2000-06-28 Thread James Raftery

On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 10:07:46AM -0400, Clifford Thurber wrote:
 I was wondering if someone could tell me how to have multilog automatically
 write standard Unix timestamps to its logfiles instead of the tai64n

Well, multilog won't do that for you. What you *could* do is pipe your
log information through something to prepend your desired timestamp and
pipe the output of that into multilog. You would then leave out the 't'
in the multilog invocation to stop multilog adding its own timestamps.

 The second questions is the 0 after the gid and before the smtpd keyword in
 the following start script for. I know smtp specifies the port but after
 looking at the man page I still can't figure out what the 0 is for. Anyways

The second paragraph of DESCRIPTION describes the 'host' argument.

Regards,

james
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solved! (Re: sorry, no mailbox by that name)

2000-06-28 Thread Jens Georg

hi,

i fixed the problem right now ! it was a dns and not qmail problem.
mydomain.com was always resolved to www.mydomain.com and of course
qmail didn't know what to with email for [EMAIL PROTECTED] because
it was configured for mydomain.com in control/virtualdomains only :-).
this problem was caused by the fact that i am using my provider's dns
until my one works perfectly and my isp used a slightly different zone-
file. grrr  much of wasted time today

 i am trying to fix this since 6 hours now, but i am really confused now
 and a little bit tired of reading all the docs. somebody here who solved
 this ?

-- 
regards,
jens
---
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linux ... life's too short for reboots!



Multilog: fatal: the final answer (hopefully)

2000-06-28 Thread Tony Campisi

Back in March someone asked about the multilog: fatal: unable to open directory
 /var/log/qmail: access denied problem. Dave asked that person to 
Post the output of:
 ls -ld /var/log/qmail /var/log /var /
 cat /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/log/run
but I searched the archive and didn't see their reply. Since I am getting the same
problem, I will do as Dave suggests.

[root@* /var/log/qmail]# ls -ld /var/log/qmail /var/log /var /
drwxr-xr-x  19 root root 1024 Jun 21 16:05 /
drwxr-xr-x  18 root root 1024 May 31 14:33 /var
drwxr-xr-x   7 root root 1024 Jun 25 04:02 /var/log
drwxrwxr-x   6 qmaill   qmail1024 May 31 14:37 /var/log/qmail
-
[root@* /var/log/qmail]# cat /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/log/run 
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill /usr/local/bin/multilog t /var/log/qmail
-
BTW - I am also getting the 'multilog: fatal: unable to lock directory 
/var/log/qmail/smtpd: access denied' error.
[root@* /var/log/qmail]# dir
drwxrwxr-x   2 879  root 1024 May 31 11:29 qmail-pop3d
drwxrwxr-x   2 879  root 1024 Jun 26 10:31 qmail-send
drwxrwxr-x   2 qmaill   qmail1024 Jun 26 10:16 qmail-smtpd
drwxrwxr-x   2 qmaill   nofiles  1024 Jun  1 11:22 smtpd
--
I'll gladly give any more info if needed. 
Thanks again,
tony.campisi






Re: Suggestion...

2000-06-28 Thread Morten Liebach

On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 08:49:51AM +0200, Steffan Hoeke wrote:
 Daniel,
 
 On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 01:43:45AM -0500, Snowcrash wrote:
  
  This one may be in the works already.. but has there been any thought
  into adding folder capabilities?  I have some users that owuld like to be
  able to create custom folders for mail sorting.
 IMHO this is *not* something qmail should be able to do.
 It's more a MUA thing.
 Most MUA's i know support creating your own folders to save mail in.
 If you want to automate it you could use something like procmail.

So ... how does procmail handle maildir then? Or doesn't procmail care
about that at all?

It's the only thing I need to know before I switch to qmail, as I have
a very nice and wellfunctioning .procmailrc.

 
  Daniel Daley
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Greetz,
  Steffan 
 
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Re: Suggestion...

2000-06-28 Thread Brett Randall

So ... how does procmail handle maildir then? Or doesn't procmail care
about that at all?

AFAIK (someone correct me if I am wrong), procmail does not support Maildir.

BR




Qmail performance issue...

2000-06-28 Thread Brian Masney

   We are currently using qmail 1.03 on a Sun E450 running Solaris 8. We
are having a problem with mail taking a very long time to be delivered
locally (sometimes in excess of 6 or 8 hours). The load on the box isn't
that bad at all, it just seems that qmail isn't sending out the mail in a
timely fashion. We installed the big todo patch for qmail, but that didn't
seem to help much. Does anyone know of any other parameters that need to
be tuned in qmail?

Here is the output from qmail-showctl:

qmail home directory: /disk8/var/qmail.
user-ext delimiter: -.
paternalism (in decimal): 2.
silent concurrency limit: 120.
subdirectory split: 23.
user ids: 105, 106, 107, 0, 108, 109, 110, 111.
group ids: 36, 35.

badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed.

bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON.

bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is milo.cfw.com.

concurrencylocal: Local concurrency is 90.

concurrencyremote: Remote concurrency is 30.

databytes: SMTP DATA limit is 800 bytes.

defaultdomain: Default domain name is cfw.com.

defaulthost: Default host name is cfw.com.

doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: milo.cfw.com.

doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster.

envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is milo.cfw.com.

helohost: SMTP client HELO host name is mail.cfw.com.

idhost: Message-ID host name is mail.cfw.com.

localiphost: Local IP address becomes mail.cfw.com.

locals: 
Messages for **REMOVED** are delivered locally.

me: My name is milo.cfw.com.

percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed.

plusdomain: Plus domain name is cfw.com.

qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers.

queuelifetime: Message lifetime in the queue is 345600 seconds.

rcpthosts: 
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at **REMOVED**

morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect.

morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect.

smtpgreeting: SMTP greeting: 220 mail.cfw.com.

smtproutes: (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes.

timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 seconds.

timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds.

timeoutsmtpd: SMTP server data timeout is 300 seconds.









Question to domains

2000-06-28 Thread Thomas Booms EDV

Hallo all,

I want specified users to get or send only mails from a specified
domain, called "a". The users are system users with a valid mail box.
The prob here is, that theoretically the users can tell their mail
client another domain which is hosted on my server, let it call "b".

What do I have to do so the users can only get or send mails from domain
"a"?

Thanks for your help.

Thomas





Re: Suggestion...

2000-06-28 Thread Johan Almqvist

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 02:12:16AM +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
 So ... how does procmail handle maildir then? Or doesn't procmail care
 about that at all?
 
 AFAIK (someone correct me if I am wrong), procmail does not support Maildir.

Well, stand corrected :-

Newest procmail supports Maildir.

Get it at www.procmail.org (or from redhat or wherever you want...)

-Johan
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Functionality questions

2000-06-28 Thread Mike Frost

I'm new to qmail, and I'm considering using it as a replacement for
Exchange at several clients.

Is there a shared address book component, similar to the Global Address
List in Exchange?

Is there a webmail interface that anyone particularly likes?

Has anyone implemented one of the My-SQL components? I like the idea of
using a database rather than dealing with bloated mail files.

Thanks!

Mike




Re: Suggestion...

2000-06-28 Thread Ronny Haryanto

On 28-Jun-2000, Morten Liebach wrote:
 So ... how does procmail handle maildir then? Or doesn't procmail care
 about that at all?

procmail has "native" maildir support since 3.14.

 It's the only thing I need to know before I switch to qmail, as I have
 a very nice and wellfunctioning .procmailrc.

The only changes you need to make in your procmailrc is to remove
locking (not necessary anymore) and add a trailing slash at the end of
each maildir name (to indicate that it's a maildir procmail is
delivering to), e.g.

:0:
* ^delivered-to: mailing list qmail@list\.cr\.yp\.to
qmail

becomes

:0
* ^delivered-to: mailing list qmail@list\.cr\.yp\.to
qmail/

Hope that helps,

Ronny



Re: Suggestion...

2000-06-28 Thread Mark Mentovai

Brett Randall wrote:
AFAIK (someone correct me if I am wrong), procmail does not support Maildir.

It does, as of version 3.14.

Mark

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Re: Suggestion...

2000-06-28 Thread Brian Reichert

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 02:12:16AM +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
 So ... how does procmail handle maildir then? Or doesn't procmail care
 about that at all?
 
 AFAIK (someone correct me if I am wrong), procmail does not support Maildir.

There are patches for procmail to make use of Maildirs; I've been
using procmail for a couple of years at this point.

Just look on http://www.qmail.org/ for 'procmail'.  There are
pointers for 'maildrop' as well, which I have not explored yet...

 
 BR
 

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Re: Multilog: fatal: the final answer (hopefully)

2000-06-28 Thread Steffan Hoeke

On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 10:55:26AM -0500, Tony Campisi wrote:
 Back in March someone asked about the multilog: fatal: unable to open directory
  /var/log/qmail: access denied problem. Dave asked that person to 
 Post the output of:
  ls -ld /var/log/qmail /var/log /var /
  cat /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/log/run
 but I searched the archive and didn't see their reply. Since I am getting the same
 problem, I will do as Dave suggests.

I'm afraid you didn't look well enough, or the archive is broken ;-)
I posted the results of the command as well and provided my own 'solution'

"Ok, the /var/log/qmail permissions weren't the problem
/var/qmail/supervise and all in it needed to be owned by qmaill as well ;)"

HTH,
 Steffan

 
 [root@* /var/log/qmail]# ls -ld /var/log/qmail /var/log /var /
 drwxr-xr-x  19 root root 1024 Jun 21 16:05 /
 drwxr-xr-x  18 root root 1024 May 31 14:33 /var
 drwxr-xr-x   7 root root 1024 Jun 25 04:02 /var/log
 drwxrwxr-x   6 qmaill   qmail1024 May 31 14:37 /var/log/qmail
 -
 [root@* /var/log/qmail]# cat /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/log/run 
 #!/bin/sh
 exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill /usr/local/bin/multilog t /var/log/qmail
 -
 BTW - I am also getting the 'multilog: fatal: unable to lock directory 
 /var/log/qmail/smtpd: access denied' error.
 [root@* /var/log/qmail]# dir
 drwxrwxr-x   2 879  root 1024 May 31 11:29 qmail-pop3d
 drwxrwxr-x   2 879  root 1024 Jun 26 10:31 qmail-send
 drwxrwxr-x   2 qmaill   qmail1024 Jun 26 10:16 qmail-smtpd
 drwxrwxr-x   2 qmaill   nofiles  1024 Jun  1 11:22 smtpd
 --
 I'll gladly give any more info if needed. 
 Thanks again,
 tony.campisi
 
 
 

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RE: Building very large Qmail instalations...

2000-06-28 Thread Mike Denka

Could you, or anyone else who would care to join this discussion, please be
more specific re: "Suns filesystems and qmails file operations"?  We are
load balancing a pair of Sun E250's sharing one disk array via NFS.  All
Maildirs are on the NFS share.  So far (roughly 10,000 mailboxes) I don't
notice any real problems.  But I would be very interested in more detail
regarding these two issues (Sun filesystems and qmail file operations) in
case I do begin to notice I/O issues on the NFS server.  Can you give a
detailed explanation or perhaps point me to some appropriate docs for more
detail?

Thanks,

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Toens
 Bueker
 Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 7:32 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Building very large Qmail instalations...
 Importance: High



 The problem - in this case - is Suns filesystem and qmails
 file operations. You didn't mention the number of disks in
 your A1000 - but maybe you should add some and spread the
 load between them.

 My suggestion, though, would be to dump the E450 and grab
 a reasonable sized Intel box (maybe dual PII 500) with FreeBSD
 on it. With FreeBSD, ffs and softupdates your i/o
 headaches should be gone.

 By
 Töns
 --
 Linux. The dot in /.





fastforward, redirection and truncating messages

2000-06-28 Thread Lisa Phillips

Hi,

We've got an internal machine here inside our firewall that we check
our email on. We've also got 2 external machines handling email for
our customers at the domains mydomain.net (a linux machine running
sendmail) and mydomain.org (a linux machine running qmail). Employess
have their mail forwarded to our internal machine, web0.mydomain.net.

What we'd like to do is to be able to send mail to each other at our
@mydomain.net/.org addresses and have them try to deliver locally
first, on our internal machine, then deliver to the other machines if the 
user isn't found internally first.

This is what I set up to do this (defaultdomain,me and plusdomain were
set up by a previous sysadmin):

me
web0.mydomain.net

defaultdomain
mydomain.net

locals
localhost
web0
web0.mydomain.net
web0.mydomain.org
mydomain.net
mydomain.org

plusdomain
mydomain.net

rcpthosts
localhost
web0
web0.mydomain.net
web0.mydomain.org

locals
localhost
web0
web0.mydomain.net
web0.mydomain.org
mydomain.net
mydomain.org

plusdomain
mydomain.net

rcpthosts
localhost
web0
web0.mydomain.net
web0.mydomain.org

.qmail-default
|fastforward -Npd /etc/aliases.cdb  |forward "$[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 

eve.mydomain.net accepts mail and then forwards on to
grace.mydomain.org if a user isn't found there.

What is happening now is that mail is delivered locally, but if the mail
has to be delivered to eve first, the message arrives with NO message
body. I am lost as to why this would happen.

Does anyone have any suggestions for me? Does it matter if the
.qmail-default file has the commands on separate lines? Should I add
mydomain.net and mydomain.org to the rcpthosts file? Does it make a
difference if the machine email is being redirected to is running
sendmail?

Qmail is new to me so any advice is very much appreciated.

TIA

-- 
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Lisa Phillips
Speakeasy Network



- End forwarded message -

-- 
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Speakeasy Network





Re: Suggestion...

2000-06-28 Thread Morten Liebach

On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 11:15:44AM -0500, Ronny Haryanto wrote:
 On 28-Jun-2000, Morten Liebach wrote:
  So ... how does procmail handle maildir then? Or doesn't procmail care
  about that at all?
 
 procmail has "native" maildir support since 3.14.
 
  It's the only thing I need to know before I switch to qmail, as I have
  a very nice and wellfunctioning .procmailrc.
 
 The only changes you need to make in your procmailrc is to remove
 locking (not necessary anymore) and add a trailing slash at the end of
 each maildir name (to indicate that it's a maildir procmail is
 delivering to), e.g.
 
   :0:
   * ^delivered-to: mailing list qmail@list\.cr\.yp\.to
   qmail
 
 becomes
 
   :0
   * ^delivered-to: mailing list qmail@list\.cr\.yp\.to
   qmail/
 
 Hope that helps,
 
   Ronny
Cool, just what I needed to know, I just have to upgrade procmail then!

Thanks a lot!

Morten

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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided
 missiles and misguided men (Martin Luther King, Jr.)"



urgent help require to :newbie qmail-ldap file permissions (fwd)

2000-06-28 Thread reach_prashant





hello list


can some one tell me what file permissions are required
for
1  ~Home/Maildir
2Maildir
3 cur
4 new
5 tmp

 i have tried giving it  644 but its not working qmail is not able to
deliever mail nor qmail-pop3d  is able
to retrive mails from users  /Maildir/new

when i made it 777 for /Maildir/*
and 755 for Maildir

its working fine

but i cant make it 777 , so want to know what it should be and why its not
working in my case
i am using qmail 1-03 with qmail-ldap-2601-patch compiled on RedHat
linux 6.1

please guide me

regards
Prashant Desai







RE: Qmail performance issue...

2000-06-28 Thread Greg Owen

We are currently using qmail 1.03 on a Sun E450 running 
 Solaris 8. We are having a problem with mail taking a very
 long time to be delivered locally (sometimes in excess of
 6 or 8 hours).

Check your trigger:

http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#trigger

-- 
gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: 15.000 users!! howto ?

2000-06-28 Thread Olivier M.

Hi Mario,

On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 03:22:34PM +0200, mario libraro wrote:
 I am Mario Libraro and this is the first time i write on this mailing list..
welcome to u :)

 - is it difficult to load 15000 user acconuts in qmail with a script (using
 the database or a text list)? This
probably not. are these all users of a same domain, or are there multiple
domains ?

 implies that i must load 15000 user accounts in the system (/etc/passwd)  ?
for so many users, I would use the vmailmgr package of Bruce G. :
http://www.vmailmgr.org/
  
You can then easily create a script which call the vaddusers
command (http://www.vmailmgr.org/docs/vaddusers.html).

Otherwise, there are other solutions : look at www.qmail.org.

 - is there a webmail module for qmail ?
you can try http://webmail.omnis.ch/omail.pl?action=about   

 - is it possible for users to remotely change mail password and add mail
 aliases ?
with very few lines of php, no problem.

 - is it possible for an administrator to remotely add/modify/remove accounts
yes
  
Good luck!
Olivier
  
PS: if you have questions specific to vmailmgr (add-on for qmail), there
is a good mailing list for that. More info on the webpage.
 

-- 
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Re: urgent help require to :newbie qmail-ldap file permissions (fwd)

2000-06-28 Thread Charles Cazabon

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 can some one tell me what file permissions are required
 for
 1  ~Home/Maildir
 2Maildir
 3 cur
 4 new
 5 tmp

If you want only the owner/user to be able to use it, make the Maildir and
its subdirectories mode 0700.

Charles
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Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
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RE: Diff between Supervise Tcpserver?

2000-06-28 Thread Dave Sill

Greg Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Given the reliability of qmail and related tools, I've always
wondered why supervise came about ;.  You can use it or not, as you prefer.

Because "reliability means never having to say you're sorry"
(DJB). The key word there is "never". If you don't want or need
reliability, by all means, skip supervise.

Of course, you'll also be giving up the handy process control features 
provided by the "svc" interface. See the "qmail" script from "Life
with qmail", for example.

-Dave



Re: Qmail performance issue...

2000-06-28 Thread Dave Sill

Brian Masney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   We are currently using qmail 1.03 on a Sun E450 running Solaris 8. We
are having a problem with mail taking a very long time to be delivered
locally (sometimes in excess of 6 or 8 hours). The load on the box isn't
that bad at all, it just seems that qmail isn't sending out the mail in a
timely fashion. We installed the big todo patch for qmail, but that didn't
seem to help much. Does anyone know of any other parameters that need to
be tuned in qmail?

The severity of your problem indicates that it requires more than
tuning.

What does "qmail-qstat" report? Do you constantly have a large
backlog? How many qmail-local processes are running, typically? Is
qmail-send logging anything unusual? At what rate are messages being
delivered to local users? What does vmstat and iostat output look
like? I.e., do you see signs of memory starvation or I/O bottlenecks?

-Dave



Limit Traffic

2000-06-28 Thread Jorge Rocha

Hi list,

How i can limit the traffic of my mail server for connections out of my 
LAN? I'm thinking to put 2 network boards on the machine and use shaper in 
one of them, so i set MX to a board and pop3.xxx.com and smtp.xxx.com to 
other board (not shaped), that's ok, but i can't make a routing table to this.

Look the scheme:
-
At Linux:
10.0.0.2 - eth0
10.0.0.3 - eth1 (shaped at 512k)

At DNS:

xxx.com  IN MX 10.0.0.3

pop3.xxx.com IN A  10.0.0.2
smtp.xxx.com IN A  10.0.0.2
---

Any Ideias?


Tkz,
Jorge Rocha
--
Node 1 Internet
http://www.node1.com.br
Tel.: (11) 5092-6020
Fax.: (11) 5092-6033




Re: Suggestion...

2000-06-28 Thread eric k. wolven

Brett:

Apparently procmail 3.15pre supports maildir.  It even has a sample script...

Eric Wolven




ppp and relay newbie question

2000-06-28 Thread Eduardo Moor

Hi qmailers

I am running qmail 1.03 for our local users, and it connects to the internet
by a ppp link , using serialmail to send and fetchmail to download mail, and
it works fine.
Now I'm trying to deliver all local mail to other host without any luck.
I removed all entries from "locals" and add one in smtproutes wich points
our domain to the new host "Mydomain.com:192.168.1.100"
What happend is that all outgoing mail goes fine  to the pppdir ( my
virtualdomains file says ":alias-ppp", and from there to my ISP, but when I
try to send something to my domain, it also goes to the pppdir, it never
reaches the smtproute, and if I include our domain in "locals" it reach the
users in the actual host, never the new one. May be this should be simple,
but I feel blind at this time.
Any help will be welcome.

Thanks.


Eduardo Moor





Re: How to do a reverse DNS lookup in Qmail ?

2000-06-28 Thread Aaron L. Meehan

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 If you use tcpserver (ucspi package), simply add the -p parameter to
 tcpserver command line.  This will force the "paranoid" mode and
 tcpserver will do a reverse DNS check.

This will force tcpserver to make sure the A and PTR records are a
match.  tcpserver does reverse lookups by default -- the -h and -H
switches control this.  In addition, setting -p only tells tcpserver
to set a particular environment variable if the connection is deemed
"paranoid."  You need another switch to actually get it to reject the
connection outright.  This wasn't what he was asking about.  He wants
to reject connections, if I understand his english properly, that come
from IP addresses that don't resolve to a name (reverse dns lookup).
I think that's a bad idea.

You didn't quote or attribute the message to which you were replying.
Tisk -- this is a mailing list, after all.  I'd be able to show better
that you answered without understanding exactly what he meant.

Aaron



Re: Multilog: fatal: the final answer (hopefully)

2000-06-28 Thread clemensF

 Steffan Hoeke:

 "Ok, the /var/log/qmail permissions weren't the problem
 /var/qmail/supervise and all in it needed to be owned by qmaill as well ;)"

why that?

clemens



how do I resync two machines after MX confusion ?

2000-06-28 Thread Andre Morin


First of all, this is a really stupid situation we should never have run
into in the first place ; however :

Due to some not so interesting reasons, for a couple of days our DNS has
pointed to another machine with our cloned qmail-configuration on
another IP in another town. I have complete root access to that machine. 

Now everything is back as before, but while this machine was MX for quite
a bunch of virtual domains we host, the mail arrived there.

What I need to do now, and I am discovering qmail, is a way to get all the
mail from the distant server to be sent to our machine with a minimum of
fuss and if possible transparent to the users (just being late, extra
headers don't hurt as long as they are of the kind lusers see by default
in their mailer).

I have started plunging into the really dense documentation of qmail and
read some interesting contributions in the archive of this list, compiled
maildircmd and taken a look at its doc as well. 

While I feel that there must be a simple solution short of writing a
brute-force-and-ignorance-script with a complete list of maildirs to be
processed, I lack the experience to figure this out on my own.

Thanks in advance to the list for some pointers to intelligent solutions
for my stupid problem.

-- 
Best Regards
André Morin




Re: how do I resync two machines after MX confusion ?

2000-06-28 Thread markd

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 02:03:46AM +0200, Andre Morin wrote:

 Unfortunately, the second option is what I have to face.


Then unless you have a way of definitively identifying which emails
to extract from whathever local delivery method each user employs,
then you have no perfect solution.

If the user has control of the delivery/forwarding in any way,
they may not be retreivable at all. If there was some user mail on the
clone prior to the MX mixup, then you'll need a way to separate them.

If you are lucky and the only delivey method is Maildir and the only
emails on that system are ones that can be redirected, then you
can probably qmail-inject them back into your clone system with
an smtproutes entry. You may need to grep out certain Delivered-to:
headers to avoid hitting the anti-loop code of qmail.

If you are not so lucky, then it'll be painful and thankless and
probably imperfect and there is no one solution.


Regards.


  It depends on where the mail is on this clone server. Is it in the
  mail queue or has it been locally delivered to users there?
  
  The former is much easier to deal with than the latter.
  
  
  Regards.
  
  On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 01:56:31AM +0200, Andre Morin wrote:
   
   First of all, this is a really stupid situation we should never have run
   into in the first place ; however :
   
   Due to some not so interesting reasons, for a couple of days our DNS has
   pointed to another machine with our cloned qmail-configuration on
   another IP in another town. I have complete root access to that machine. 
   
   Now everything is back as before, but while this machine was MX for quite
   a bunch of virtual domains we host, the mail arrived there.
 



Re: how do I resync two machines after MX confusion ?

2000-06-28 Thread Andre Morin


Unfortunately, the second option is what I have to face.

On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:00:11 -0700
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: how do I resync two machines after MX confusion ?
 
 It depends on where the mail is on this clone server. Is it in the
 mail queue or has it been locally delivered to users there?
 
 The former is much easier to deal with than the latter.
 
 
 Regards.
 
 On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 01:56:31AM +0200, Andre Morin wrote:
  
  First of all, this is a really stupid situation we should never have run
  into in the first place ; however :
  
  Due to some not so interesting reasons, for a couple of days our DNS has
  pointed to another machine with our cloned qmail-configuration on
  another IP in another town. I have complete root access to that machine. 
  
  Now everything is back as before, but while this machine was MX for quite
  a bunch of virtual domains we host, the mail arrived there.




Re: how do I resync two machines after MX confusion ?

2000-06-28 Thread Andre Morin



On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:11:02 -0700
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: how do I resync two machines after MX confusion ?
 
 On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 02:03:46AM +0200, Andre Morin wrote:
 
  Unfortunately, the second option is what I have to face.
 
 
 Then unless you have a way of definitively identifying which emails
 to extract from whathever local delivery method each user employs,
 then you have no perfect solution.
 
 If the user has control of the delivery/forwarding in any way,
 they may not be retreivable at all. If there was some user mail on the
 clone prior to the MX mixup, 

Yes there was.

 then you'll need a way to separate them.
 
 If you are lucky and the only delivey method is Maildir and the only
 emails on that system are ones that can be redirected, then you
 can probably qmail-inject them back into your clone system with
 an smtproutes entry. You may need to grep out certain Delivered-to:
 headers to avoid hitting the anti-loop code of qmail.

Nearly all use simple maildir delivery.

How would I do this ?
Write a script to grep out the last Delivered-to: header ?
Use some qmail-program to do that ?

What would be the right way to do the qmail-inject then ?

Will I need to create a smtproute-file in spite of the fact that the
correct MX is now known to the DNS-servers used by the clone to resolve
names ?

 If you are not so lucky, then it'll be painful and thankless and
 probably imperfect and there is no one solution.
 
I am really a comple newbie to qmail, while I am discovering the doc, I am
quite amazed about its nifty design.

The other option for me would be some ugly script doing some rsync-alike
things to the maildirectories of the users. 

Thank You for your responsiveness, even if you confirm what I felt :
I'm in trouble...

 Regards.
 
 
   It depends on where the mail is on this clone server. Is it in the
   mail queue or has it been locally delivered to users there?
   
   The former is much easier to deal with than the latter.
   
   
   Regards.
   
   On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 01:56:31AM +0200, Andre Morin wrote:

Due to some not so interesting reasons, for a couple of days our DNS has
pointed to another machine with our cloned qmail-configuration on
another IP in another town. I have complete root access to that machine. 

Now everything is back as before, but while this machine was MX for quite
a bunch of virtual domains we host, the mail arrived there.
  
 




Re: how do I resync two machines after MX confusion ?

2000-06-28 Thread Darcy Buskermolen

If it was delivered to maildirs, would a simple tar / FTP /untar solution
work ?? assuming ofcourse that both machines have the same maildir setup ?

At 02:38 AM 6/29/00 +0200, you wrote:


On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:11:02 -0700
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: how do I resync two machines after MX confusion ?
 
 On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 02:03:46AM +0200, Andre Morin wrote:
 
  Unfortunately, the second option is what I have to face.
 
 
 Then unless you have a way of definitively identifying which emails
 to extract from whathever local delivery method each user employs,
 then you have no perfect solution.
 
 If the user has control of the delivery/forwarding in any way,
 they may not be retreivable at all. If there was some user mail on the
 clone prior to the MX mixup, 

Yes there was.

 then you'll need a way to separate them.
 
 If you are lucky and the only delivey method is Maildir and the only
 emails on that system are ones that can be redirected, then you
 can probably qmail-inject them back into your clone system with
 an smtproutes entry. You may need to grep out certain Delivered-to:
 headers to avoid hitting the anti-loop code of qmail.

Nearly all use simple maildir delivery.

How would I do this ?
Write a script to grep out the last Delivered-to: header ?
Use some qmail-program to do that ?

What would be the right way to do the qmail-inject then ?

Will I need to create a smtproute-file in spite of the fact that the
correct MX is now known to the DNS-servers used by the clone to resolve
names ?

 If you are not so lucky, then it'll be painful and thankless and
 probably imperfect and there is no one solution.
 
I am really a comple newbie to qmail, while I am discovering the doc, I am
quite amazed about its nifty design.

The other option for me would be some ugly script doing some rsync-alike
things to the maildirectories of the users. 

Thank You for your responsiveness, even if you confirm what I felt :
I'm in trouble...

 Regards.
 
 
   It depends on where the mail is on this clone server. Is it in the
   mail queue or has it been locally delivered to users there?
   
   The former is much easier to deal with than the latter.
   
   
   Regards.
   
   On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 01:56:31AM +0200, Andre Morin wrote:

Due to some not so interesting reasons, for a couple of days our
DNS has
pointed to another machine with our cloned qmail-configuration on
another IP in another town. I have complete root access to that
machine. 

Now everything is back as before, but while this machine was MX
for quite
a bunch of virtual domains we host, the mail arrived there.
  
 






Re: how do I resync two machines after MX confusion ?

2000-06-28 Thread asantos

File and directory ownership could give some headaches...

If you have good bandwidth between the machines, I again recomend
maildirsmtp.

Armando

From: Andre Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I do not see any specific qmail-precautions to take while I untar the
stuff, am I right ?


 smime.p7s


Re: how do I resync two machines after MX confusion ?

2000-06-28 Thread asantos

I'd copy all the messages from all the users to the ~alias Maildir, and then
use djb's serialmail (the maildirsmtp util, to be exact) to blast'em to the
original machine.

After checking, delete the messages.

This shouldn't work with mailboxes, tough.

Armando

-Original Message-
From: Andre Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How would I do this ?
Write a script to grep out the last Delivered-to: header ?
Use some qmail-program to do that ?


 smime.p7s


Re: how do I resync two machines after MX confusion ?

2000-06-28 Thread Andre Morin

On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Darcy Buskermolen wrote:

 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:50:43 -0700
 From: Darcy Buskermolen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: how do I resync two machines after MX confusion ?
 
 If it was delivered to maildirs, would a simple tar / FTP /untar solution
 work ?? assuming ofcourse that both machines have the same maildir setup ?

They do indeed have the same setup.

I was looking into such a brute force approach as well.
It will certainly do the trick, but I hoped to end up with a more elegant
(qmail) solution.

But it looks like I will have to do just what you suggest.

I do not see any specific qmail-precautions to take while I untar the
stuff, am I right ?

Thank you anyway to both of you, who answered my questions so quickly,
for confirming me that I did not overlook some really cheap trick.
 
 At 02:38 AM 6/29/00 +0200, you wrote:
 
 
 On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:11:02 -0700
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: how do I resync two machines after MX confusion ?
  
  On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 02:03:46AM +0200, Andre Morin wrote:
  
   Unfortunately, the second option is what I have to face.
  
  
  Then unless you have a way of definitively identifying which emails
  to extract from whathever local delivery method each user employs,
  then you have no perfect solution.
  
  If the user has control of the delivery/forwarding in any way,
  they may not be retreivable at all. If there was some user mail on the
  clone prior to the MX mixup, 
 
 Yes there was.
 
  then you'll need a way to separate them.
  
  If you are lucky and the only delivey method is Maildir and the only
  emails on that system are ones that can be redirected, then you
  can probably qmail-inject them back into your clone system with
  an smtproutes entry. You may need to grep out certain Delivered-to:
  headers to avoid hitting the anti-loop code of qmail.
 
 Nearly all use simple maildir delivery.
 
 How would I do this ?
 Write a script to grep out the last Delivered-to: header ?
 Use some qmail-program to do that ?
 
 What would be the right way to do the qmail-inject then ?
 
 Will I need to create a smtproute-file in spite of the fact that the
 correct MX is now known to the DNS-servers used by the clone to resolve
 names ?
 
  If you are not so lucky, then it'll be painful and thankless and
  probably imperfect and there is no one solution.
  
 I am really a comple newbie to qmail, while I am discovering the doc, I am
 quite amazed about its nifty design.
 
 The other option for me would be some ugly script doing some rsync-alike
 things to the maildirectories of the users. 
 
 Thank You for your responsiveness, even if you confirm what I felt :
 I'm in trouble...
 
  Regards.
  
  
It depends on where the mail is on this clone server. Is it in the
mail queue or has it been locally delivered to users there?

The former is much easier to deal with than the latter.


Regards.

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 01:56:31AM +0200, Andre Morin wrote:
 
 Due to some not so interesting reasons, for a couple of days our
 DNS has
 pointed to another machine with our cloned qmail-configuration on
 another IP in another town. I have complete root access to that
 machine. 
 
 Now everything is back as before, but while this machine was MX
 for quite
 a bunch of virtual domains we host, the mail arrived there.
   
  
 
 
 
 




Re: limit to RCPT TO

2000-06-28 Thread Ricardo Cerqueira

On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 05:53:15PM -0700, Jason Ingham wrote:
 There is purportedly a patch for this but the link on the qmail website
 is stale. (The site exists but the file isn't there anymore.)
 
 Search for "limits the number of RCPT TO: commands" on:
 
   http://www.qmail.org/top.html
 
 I'm in need of this myself, does anyone have it lying around?

I don't have it anywhere I can reach it now, but I've posted a port of the maxrcpt 
patch from 1.02 to 1.03 (i suppose that's the one you're talking about).
Search this mlist's archives.

RC

 
 Thanks!
 ~Jason
 
 Marcilio Jorgensen Cassella wrote:
  
  Hi,
  
  How do i limit number of RCPT TO in my SMTP server ?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Marcilio Jorgensen
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  AlterNex S/A
  Brazil

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Re: how do I resync two machines after MX confusion ?

2000-06-28 Thread markd

It depends on where the mail is on this clone server. Is it in the
mail queue or has it been locally delivered to users there?

The former is much easier to deal with than the latter.


Regards.

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 01:56:31AM +0200, Andre Morin wrote:
 
 First of all, this is a really stupid situation we should never have run
 into in the first place ; however :
 
 Due to some not so interesting reasons, for a couple of days our DNS has
 pointed to another machine with our cloned qmail-configuration on
 another IP in another town. I have complete root access to that machine. 
 
 Now everything is back as before, but while this machine was MX for quite
 a bunch of virtual domains we host, the mail arrived there.
 
 What I need to do now, and I am discovering qmail, is a way to get all the
 mail from the distant server to be sent to our machine with a minimum of
 fuss and if possible transparent to the users (just being late, extra
 headers don't hurt as long as they are of the kind lusers see by default
 in their mailer).
 
 I have started plunging into the really dense documentation of qmail and
 read some interesting contributions in the archive of this list, compiled
 maildircmd and taken a look at its doc as well. 
 
 While I feel that there must be a simple solution short of writing a
 brute-force-and-ignorance-script with a complete list of maildirs to be
 processed, I lack the experience to figure this out on my own.
 
 Thanks in advance to the list for some pointers to intelligent solutions
 for my stupid problem.
 
 -- 
 Best Regards
 André Morin
 



Re: limit to RCPT TO

2000-06-28 Thread Jason Ingham

There is purportedly a patch for this but the link on the qmail website
is stale. (The site exists but the file isn't there anymore.)

Search for "limits the number of RCPT TO: commands" on:

  http://www.qmail.org/top.html

I'm in need of this myself, does anyone have it lying around?

Thanks!
~Jason

Marcilio Jorgensen Cassella wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 How do i limit number of RCPT TO in my SMTP server ?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Marcilio Jorgensen
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 AlterNex S/A
 Brazil



filehandle

2000-06-28 Thread Kimberly Vher



does qmail support the filehandle in linux?




ucspi-tcp and daemontools licenses?

2000-06-28 Thread Vincent Danen

I've looked at the web pages for both tools and in the archives
themselves, but I can't find anything having to do with licensing
issues for these two programs.  I know they're not GNU, but I was
wondering about distribution for them.

I've made Mandrake RPMs for them would like to know if I can
distribute them.  The only changes I've made are to place the
binaries in /usr/bin instead of /usr/local/bin.  Can I distribute
binaries this way?  No patches or anything else have been applied to
them.  Or do I have to put them into /usr/local/bin in order to
distribute them?

Thank you in advance.  If you can point me to a page describing the
license for either program as well, I would sincerely appreciate it
(as I think the license should be included in the RPMs also).

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Re: Building very large Qmail instalations...

2000-06-28 Thread Russell Nelson

Greg Moeller writes:
  Now, we called Sun, asking about a high capacity disk solution, one that might 
  help with the IO problems.  (cache on the disk array to take care of all the 
  fsyncs Qmail does)
  They told us that around 50k-60k mailboxes is about the limit of Qmail.

They have no clue.  I've designed multiple sites with close to a
milllion mailboxes running on Sun hardware (well, okay, one of them is 
just starting up, but it's designed for five million mailboxes).

  Now, my question to all of you is how expandable is Qmail, and what's the best 
  way to do it?

Just the way you're doing it: single mailstore with multiple front-ends.

  We're looking to expand the system to 150,000-200,000 mailboxes.
  
  How does Qmail deal with a single storage array linked to multiple load 
  balenced servers?

Very well.

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qmail_smtpd and tcpserver

2000-06-28 Thread Nguyen Hong Son

Hi all
I used qmail-smtpd, qmail-pop3d  with tcpserver, but i don't understand why 
tcpserver too slow, here my tcpserver commands

_ tcpserver -v -H -R -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c20 -u $QMAILUID -g $QNOFILEGID 0 
smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 21

_ tcpserver -v -H -R -b30 -c10 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup mydomain 
/var/qmail/auth_pop /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 21

I am using qmail-ldap

Thanks for every feedback

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RE: Building very large Qmail instalations...

2000-06-28 Thread Gustav Yeung
Title: RE: Building very large Qmail instalations...





I am also tackling the same problem. My idea is to have a line of frontend servers load-balanced at network level and other line of servers solely taking care of storage. The mail servers would access the storage via NFS on a private network. My current problem is to pick the right techology: NAS like NetApp or SAN like SGI's CXFS.

Gustav


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renren.com Holdings Ltd.
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-Original Message-
From: Greg Moeller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 3:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Building very large Qmail instalations...



I'm one of the admins of a largish Qmail installation (~60,000 mailboxes)
and the hardware we're running it on it near the limit.
(Sun Ultra 450, dual processor, A1000 storage array)
The system is very IO bound, sometimes with a load average of 20-25.
(although usually between 3-8)


Now, we called Sun, asking about a high capacity disk solution, one that might 
help with the IO problems. (cache on the disk array to take care of all the 
fsyncs Qmail does)
They told us that around 50k-60k mailboxes is about the limit of Qmail.


Now, my question to all of you is how expandable is Qmail, and what's the best 
way to do it?


We're looking to expand the system to 150,000-200,000 mailboxes.


How does Qmail deal with a single storage array linked to multiple load 
balenced servers?


Greg





manpages for ucspi-tcp

2000-06-28 Thread Vincent Danen

Before I make some unecessary work for myself, I was wondering two
things:

Are there manpages for ucspi-tcp 0.88 somewhere?  None are in the
package.  Also, is there a html2man program or something I can use to
make this easier?

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Re: Building very large Qmail instalations...

2000-06-28 Thread Brett Randall

Well...I have a little 2c to chuck in as well

I have just finished designing a system (and implementing it) for our
corporation that allows distributed e-mail across a city, with hundreds,
possibly thousands, of different locations either dialing up or being
permanently connected to our main relay. And all e-mail is sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], no subdomains (although we have set it up to allow for
virtual domains in the future), and is delivered to the correct location.

All the e-mail is relayed to NFS shares on client machines around Sydney,
uing Qmail's maildir delivery format. If an NFS share is down (ie a site
hasn't dialed up recently or an ISDN link has failed), then it is deferred
for up to a week - simplistic but it works. All users can check their e-mail
internally from their local server or externally from the main server (only
internet viewable machine in the entire network, and even then through a
router) via NIS.

Why go to all this trouble? You may say. Why not just use aliases? Because
aliases can create excess traffic, bouncing e-mails when servers are down
and the like. The aim of this project was to make network traffic across the
whole network as small as possible, with reliability for as many locations
as possible and the ability for smaller ones to only have to dial in
(similar to UUCP). This way, the only network traffic is an e-mail being
transferred to an NFS share, and all employees are happy. If a server goes
down, no others are affected (except if the master server was to go down,
but even then POP and SMTP will still work, just being deferred until it
comes up again). We are also working on a redundant server for when a link
goes down or the server has a failure.

If you're still reading, congratulations you might be interested in all
this. I am considering writing a HOWTO for this (Reliable and Efficient
Distributed e-mail (REDE) across endless locations) if anybody wants it,
because I have to document it all anyway for the corporation. There might
already be something already out there, I dunno. But it was a great learning
experience for me in Qmail, NFS, NIS, network infrastructure between
locations... If anybody is interested in a HOWTO in the future, please
e-mail me personally.

Regards

Brett Randall





Re: ucspi-tcp and daemontools licenses?

2000-06-28 Thread Patrick Berry

on 6/28/00 9:17 PM, Vincent Danen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've looked at the web pages for both tools and in the archives
 themselves, but I can't find anything having to do with licensing
 issues for these two programs.  I know they're not GNU, but I was
 wondering about distribution for them.
 
 I've made Mandrake RPMs for them would like to know if I can
 distribute them.  The only changes I've made are to place the
 binaries in /usr/bin instead of /usr/local/bin.  Can I distribute
 binaries this way?  No patches or anything else have been applied to
 them.  Or do I have to put them into /usr/local/bin in order to
 distribute them?
 
 Thank you in advance.  If you can point me to a page describing the
 license for either program as well, I would sincerely appreciate it
 (as I think the license should be included in the RPMs also).

A quick peek on the list archive came up with no definative answer.  The
only page that might help you out is:

ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/lists.html#qmaildist which tells you how to
subscribe to a list which is for distributors of qmail-related packages.
I'd have to assume that ucspi-tcp and daemontools are somewhat qmail
related.

Pat