Re: Newbie question
qmail-pop3d is far secure..but using it with inet is not recommended...use qmail-pop3d with tcpserver..check the FAQ regarding this... regards dushyanth Hi, I have been looking around on the Inet to see if I could find anything about how I secure qmail pop3 service, but I don't have a ??? and I don't find a ???.. I was wondering if anyone have some good ideas what to use or where I can find some information about securing qmail pop3 etc. (Right now I'm using qmail-pop3d on OpenBSD). Thanks //Per -- Dushyanth Harinath Archean Infotech Limited Ph No:091-040-3228666,6570704,3228674 http://www.archeanit.com - This email was sent using SquirrelMail. Webmail for nuts! http://squirrelmail.org/
Re: Newbie question
* Per-Fredrik Pollnow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010726 09:40]: I have been looking around on the Inet to see if I could find anything about how I secure qmail pop3 service, but I don't have a ??? and I don't find a ???.. I was wondering if anyone have some good ideas what to use or where I can find some information about securing qmail pop3 etc. (Right now I'm using qmail-pop3d on OpenBSD). [Please wrap your lines so that I don't have to] qmail-pop3d is secure. However, POP isn't secure, as the passwords are sent in clear text... But qmail-pop3d can use APOP (a basic challenge- response mechanism) if configured with a matching checkpassword. But even with APOP, a man-in-the-middle attack is possible... POP over SSL is one possible solution... One way to accomplish this is by using stunnel. -Johan -- Johan Almqvist http://www.almqvist.net/johan/qmail/ PGP signature
Re: newbie question (it's an easy one i'm sure, but it's not in theFAQ)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- John Wolford wrote: qmail is running. Nope, not quite ... If i check the ps listing, i see, in part: [root@homer init.d]# ps -ef |grep qmail root 29806 29805 1 Jun01 ?02:43:31 supervise qmail-pop3d root 29808 29805 0 Jun01 ?00:00:00 supervise qmail-send root 29810 29805 1 Jun01 ?02:55:05 supervise qmail-smtpd That means svscan knows about it, but hasn't been told to start it. I don't know Thing One about the Mandrake rpm, so you may have an init script which does this, but what you specifically need to do is this (assuming here for the sake of argument that svscan uses /service as its working directory): # svc -u /service/qmail-* Then your ps should tell a very different story. Good luck -d - -- David Talkington http://www.spotnet.org PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/dt000823.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQEVAwUBOySDP71ZYOtSwT+tAQH8iwgAtZFfnUdA9KzWbLfmJz+CdvAdvhrXozWZ KZCMunZdzQW5XL+yS12h6a4RBh2QK67eSXh3sU6w26a+xyusUqeu179DfACQsTbX nkMJ6yyh8bIaQVANoBtJrxpCrgrTvK8xhMoc25zMJUrCkDIlXsjpDwug/ru+t5kW cS0puflj6eg38+fvFtb0e9LaeQF6QucgabWi/JUOEadgzyDcJHJ/Q4kmOMJgw1qQ qIqqxVRSGSxukdqXBDKgC2HjDSkHHl62EA9OseFph5S8W65LtXfo8hO0XKX5hQmr rvcBMBi+8u4Zb82j5pZMIXzbQJFj+LLF0kc6HdIr0IjUnkVSelCDYw== =EUp9 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: newbie question (it's an easy one i'm sure, but it's not in theFAQ)
David Talkington wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- John Wolford wrote: qmail is running. Nope, not quite ... If i check the ps listing, i see, in part: [root@homer init.d]# ps -ef |grep qmail root 29806 29805 1 Jun01 ?02:43:31 supervise qmail-pop3d root 29808 29805 0 Jun01 ?00:00:00 supervise qmail-send root 29810 29805 1 Jun01 ?02:55:05 supervise qmail-smtpd That means svscan knows about it, but hasn't been told to start it. I don't know Thing One about the Mandrake rpm, so you may have an init script which does this, but what you specifically need to do is this (assuming here for the sake of argument that svscan uses /service as its working directory): # svc -u /service/qmail-* Then your ps should tell a very different story. Good luck -d - -- David Talkington http://www.spotnet.org In the case that you do already have an instance of tcpserver running under your supervise (`pstree` command could be very helpful in determining that =) ) instance, you probably do not have the appropriate IP addresses allowed within tcpserver's rules. Usually this is placed in /etc/tcp.smtp and then built into a binary database which can be used by tcpserver; but if its not (and I am also unfamiliar with the structure used by these RPMs) you will have to find the script that supervise is attempting to execute and give it a glance over to determine the location of this file. -- Nick (Keith) Fish Network Engineer Triton Technologies, Inc.
Re: Newbie question-CJK
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Constantine Koulis wrote: I can connect POP3 to the unix users but i cannot receive any email. When i open the unix-user i made his home directory to be : /home/username. Is this the correct one for qmail?If not which is? Yes it is. I think you should first tell us if local deliveries fail or succeed. If they succeed, where is the mail put? What popdaemon do you use? Another thing Do i need to put in the /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts all the domains that i want to send email? Of course not. rcpthosts stands for ReCiPienThosts; hosts you want qmail to accept mail for. You put allowed IP's/hostnames into the config files for tcpserver, which you should use with qmail. http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp.html Thats impossible.I have to put all the domains in the world?LIke hotmail.com,yahoo.com.. If you should have (and you must not) then I bet there was a wildcard for it ;) Grtz, Arjen.
Re: Newbie question-CJK
Hi, I can connect POP3 to the unix users but i cannot receive any email. When i open the unix-user i made his home directory to be : /home/username. Is this the correct one for qmail?If not which is? this depends on your configuration, in most cases it is hint: link /var/spool/mail/user + maildir / mailbox see lwq Another thing Do i need to put in the /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts all the domains that i want to send email? all the domains which allowed to _send_ mails Start reading the man pages and lwq and www.qmail.org Tom
Re: Newbie question-CJK
I would like to know why i can receive emails from the internet using pine with the user X and from the OUtlook Express lets say using again user X dont receive anything.. From: Tom Beer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Constantine Koulis [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: qmail list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Newbie question-CJK Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:14:23 +0200 Hi, I can connect POP3 to the unix users but i cannot receive any email. When i open the unix-user i made his home directory to be : /home/username. Is this the correct one for qmail?If not which is? this depends on your configuration, in most cases it is hint: link /var/spool/mail/user + maildir / mailbox see lwq Another thing Do i need to put in the /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts all the domains that i want to send email? all the domains which allowed to _send_ mails Start reading the man pages and lwq and www.qmail.org Tom _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: Newbie question-CJK
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Constantine Koulis wrote: Dear sir. About local delivery i can send from root to local users but from local users to root nothing.As well i can send from local users and root to outside world. Where is mail for your local users stored? Do you check ~alias/ for root mail? I cannot receive to root from anywhere. I can receive from outside world to local users USING PINE.Not outlook express or IMAP. Where is the mail stored? I am using Courier-IMAP and i believe also POP3 You believe? Better make sure... and i tried to install vmailmgr but i have some small problems with it.Cant compile vmailmgr and from the rpms the vmailmgr-daemon deon start. PLz send to the list and not to me personally... Grtz, Arjen.
Re: newbie question
Hi, please mail an exploit of /var/log/qmail/current and we'll see... Tom - Original Message - From: Ian Truelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 6:38 AM Subject: newbie question I just installed qmail under RedHat 7.1 It passes all the internal tests, but I am not able to get anything from outside the local machine. I know I have not set something up properly, or failed to set something up, but I can't figure out what it is that is wrong. All I get when I try to email my machine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] is messages from the mail daemon where I send it from saying that it can't find the address and will keep trying. Now ihtruelsen.2y.net works with my apache server, and I am able to get access to my website which is on the same machine. Any thoughts would be helpful. Thanks in advance. Ian. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: newbie question
Ian Truelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It passes all the internal tests, but I am not able to get anything from outside the local machine. Okay. Lots of possible causes for that one. All I get when I try to email my machine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] is messages from the mail daemon where I send it from saying that it can't find the address and will keep trying. [charlesc@charon archive]$ dnsmx ihtruelsen.2y.net 0 ihtruelsen.2y.net [charlesc@charon archive]$ telnet ihtruelsen.2y.net 25 Trying 205.200.142.91... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused Nothing is listening on port 25; you haven't installed and configured qmail-smtpd/tcpserver correctly, or have not told svscan to start the tcpserver instance for qmail-smtpd. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Re: Re: newbie question
Hi, try sending mail using ip address example [EMAIL PROTECTED] and check .. if it goes to user, then there is dns setting problem ..may be MX records .. Else make sure files in /var/qmail/control/me .. and rpchosts and defaultdomain is proper. Or try testing using $ telnet hostname 25 ... and check Regards Santosh Pasi ---Original Message-- Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk From: Tom Beer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ian Truelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: newbie question Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:16:59 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, please mail an exploit of /var/log/qmail/current and we'll see... Tom - Original Message - From: Ian Truelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 6:38 AM Subject: newbie question I just installed qmail under RedHat 7.1 It passes all the internal tests, but I am not able to get anything from outside the local machine. I know I have not set something up properly, or failed to set something up, but I can't figure out what it is that is wrong. All I get when I try to email my machine at [EMAIL PROTECTED]is messages from the mail daemon where I send it from saying that it can'tfind the address and will keep trying. Now ihtruelsen.2y.net works with my apache server, and I am able to get access to my website which is on the same machine. Any thoughts would be helpful. Thanks in advance. Ian. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: newbie question with concurrency remote
Michael Geier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running qmail on: RedHat 6.2 256 Mb Ram I set concurrency remote = 150... however, most of the time, it seems like only a handful of remote processes are running, even though the queue backs up (right now, over 14000 msgs in queue and only 20 remote processes running)... Are you sure concurrencyremote is set to 150? You restarted qmail-send after changing it? The logs reflect the 150 setting? Anybody have an idea about how to force it to run faster Faster disk More memory Faster network Replace syslog with multilog Install djbdns, run dnscache Kill non-qmail processes Faster CPU or at least not kill off my qmail-remote processes? What makes you think qmail-remote processes are being killed off? -Dave
Re: newbie question with concurrency remote
Michael Geier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I set concurrency remote = 150... however, most of the time, it seems like only a handful of remote processes are running, even though the queue backs up (right now, over 14000 msgs in queue and only 20 remote processes running)... Most likely you did not restart qmail after changing concurrencyremote, as 20 is the default maximum for this. `man qmail-send` for details. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
RE: newbie question with concurrency remote
thanks for the tips Dave... to those that had replied: I had rebooted qmail (frequently)... I installed djbdns, killed splogger, and rebooted server things seem to be much better. -Original Message- From: Dave Sill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 12:30 PM To: Qmail Mailing List Subject: Re: newbie question with concurrency remote Michael Geier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running qmail on: RedHat 6.2 256 Mb Ram I set concurrency remote = 150... however, most of the time, it seems like only a handful of remote processes are running, even though the queue backs up (right now, over 14000 msgs in queue and only 20 remote processes running)... Are you sure concurrencyremote is set to 150? You restarted qmail-send after changing it? The logs reflect the 150 setting? Anybody have an idea about how to force it to run faster Faster disk More memory Faster network Replace syslog with multilog Install djbdns, run dnscache Kill non-qmail processes Faster CPU or at least not kill off my qmail-remote processes? What makes you think qmail-remote processes are being killed off? -Dave
Re: newbie question
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 01:53:50PM -0500, John Hogan wrote: yep, popper's running... qmail is configured to ~/Mailbox, tests, performs local delivery and receipt What popper? qmail-pop3d only does Maildir. Greetz, Peter.
Re: newbie question
i was running just regular, old, linux distribution flavored popper... must i switch? - hogan At 09:17 PM 4/26/2001 +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 01:53:50PM -0500, John Hogan wrote: yep, popper's running... qmail is configured to ~/Mailbox, tests, performs local delivery and receipt What popper? qmail-pop3d only does Maildir. Greetz, Peter. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: newbie question
thanks for the off-list advice... i thought i'd let everyone know - building a sym-link from /var/spool/mail/username to ~(username)/Mailbox did the trick... popper must have been looking at the old /var/spool i'll have to figure out a way to change popper and release those nasty sym-links thanks again - hogan At 02:40 PM 4/26/2001 -0500, John Hogan wrote: i was running just regular, old, linux distribution flavored popper... must i switch? - hogan At 09:17 PM 4/26/2001 +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 01:53:50PM -0500, John Hogan wrote: yep, popper's running... qmail is configured to ~/Mailbox, tests, performs local delivery and receipt What popper? qmail-pop3d only does Maildir. Greetz, Peter. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: newbie question
Hi John, Thursday, April 26, 2001, 7:16:38 PM, you wrote: JH i have qmail all configured, tested and working in a local JH environment... when i send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the JH message is not downloaded by a third-party UA and is only JH available at the command line (pine) JH any ideas? You need a POP server, such as popper (included with most Linux distributions) if you're storing your messages in /var/spool/mail, or some other POP server if you're using mbox or Maildir. Best regards, Barrymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie question
John Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have qmail all configured, tested and working in a local environment... when i send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the message is not downloaded by a third-party UA and is only available at the command line (pine) If NFS is involved, make sure that the system clocks between all the machines are synchronized (with xntpd, clockspped, or equivalent). qmail-pop3d won't see messages which are dated in the future. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Re: newbie question
yep, popper's running... qmail is configured to ~/Mailbox, tests, performs local delivery and receipt new messages are received in Pine just fine, but not by a remote UA - hogan At 07:42 PM 4/26/2001 +0100, Barry Hill wrote: Hi John, Thursday, April 26, 2001, 7:16:38 PM, you wrote: JH i have qmail all configured, tested and working in a local JH environment... when i send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the JH message is not downloaded by a third-party UA and is only JH available at the command line (pine) JH any ideas? You need a POP server, such as popper (included with most Linux distributions) if you're storing your messages in /var/spool/mail, or some other POP server if you're using mbox or Maildir. Best regards, Barrymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: newbie question on forwarding email
Virginia Chism [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Frontpage client wants to publish a form to be received on my server addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and relayed (forwarded/redirected) to her personal email address which is not on my server. [...] Now I have been told that I need to add herdomain.org to the QMail list of allowable 'local' domains. Reading on, in LWQ 3.5 it seems I may need to set her up in /var/qmail/alias as well? If so, I would set her up as 'info'? And how do I set it up to redirect to her personal [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Easier: make herdomain.org virtual, and forward mail out of an appropriate .qmail file directly: echo "herdomain.org:alias-herdomain" /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains echo "forwardaddress" ~alias/.qmail-herdomain-info Remember to remove the old entry from "locals", and to restart qmail or HUP qmail-send. No system user accounts are necessary in this setup. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Re: Newbie question
Hello Roger, qmail-pw2u wants the contents of /etc/passwd to be passed/piped to it. If you wanted to create an assignment file from the /etc/passwd, you might try something like cat /etc/passwd | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pw2u /var/qmail/users/assign If you do that though, be sure you delete people who won't need mail. Or you could make your own assign file, but you would have to figure that out yourself :-) ALSO REMEMBER TO RUN /var/qmail/bin/qmail-newu AFTER YOU HAVE AN ASSIGN FILE. This has caused me a little trouble in the past :-D Jeff - Original Message - From: "Roger Arnold" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Qmail Users" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 5:01 AM Subject: Newbie question Roger Arnold wrote: How do you make a users file using "qmail-pw2u" from your /etc/passwd file ? If I execute /var/qmail/qmail-pw2u with no extensions I would have thought that it would have created an assignments file from /etc/passwd, however all that happens is that it goes into never-never land, and not return to the command prompt. Are there any indepth documentation relating to this and other qmail commands other than the man files ? Thanks in advance Roger
RE: newbie question. please recommend solution
Here is the thing: I DO NOT have a domain YET. SO in my /etc/hosts file, I added swaru as my machine name. SInce I'm not part of any network (it's a system at which is soon going to be a web/mail server), I named my machine swaru (swami + guru :-). I don't know anything about vmailmgr, but I do know that qmail never uses the hosts file, only DNS. Never ever. Not on a bet. Not if you ask nicely. Not even if you're listed on Santa's "Nice" list. You might want to set up a "private" DNS server that pretends you have a domain for the purposes of setting up and testing mail services. -- gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: newbie question. please recommend solution
Greg, thanks for the insight. I AM getting a domain soon. I'm getting my DSL on a static IP and am going to register a domain and assign it. My DNS server is going to be elsewhere (probably at work). anyway, I chucked out vmailmgr and installed vpopmail. Now I've finally accomplished what I wanted to. I can give my friends POP3 accounts and not let them have unix accounts. So if Anyone needs help configuring such a system, let me know. Although I'm not the best unix network person (hey, I'm still in high school ...) I'll probably be able to assist you. thanks, -sridhar -Original Message- From: Greg Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 6:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: newbie question. please recommend solution Here is the thing: I DO NOT have a domain YET. SO in my /etc/hosts file, I added swaru as my machine name. SInce I'm not part of any network (it's a system at which is soon going to be a web/mail server), I named my machine swaru (swami + guru :-). I don't know anything about vmailmgr, but I do know that qmail never uses the hosts file, only DNS. Never ever. Not on a bet. Not if you ask nicely. Not even if you're listed on Santa's "Nice" list. You might want to set up a "private" DNS server that pretends you have a domain for the purposes of setting up and testing mail services. -- gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie question
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Charles Cazabon wrote: CCThe mail transaction above is not an example of (unauthorized) relaying. CCBy putting the domain in rcpthosts, you have told qmail-smtpd "I am willing CCto accept mail from anyone which has an envelope recipient of CC[EMAIL PROTECTED]" CC CCIf foo.com is in your locals file, the message will be delivered locally. CCIf foo.com is in your virtualdomains file, it will be treated as a virtual CCdomain and delivered to a local user. CCIf foo.com is in neither locals nor controls, qmail will attempt to deliver CCit to the highest priority MX for foo.com, and therefore serving as a CCsecodary MX for foo.com. CC CC I think i missed something in configuration or otherwise i didnt understand CC well how qmail works. CC CCYes, it's a problem with your understanding of qmail. To receive mail CCfrom the world at large, you have to allow everyone to connect to your CCSMTP port. You should then accept/reject mail based on the envelope CCrecipient -- accepting mail which is for addresses in your local domain(s) CCand virtual domains (if any), and possibly a few others for which you CCprovide backup MX service, and rejecting everything else. CC CCThen, in addition, you can set the RELAYCLIENT variable as you did above CCfor certain IP addresses (typically those on your company LAN or private CCnetwork), to allow only those IP addresses to relay mail to anywhere else CCin the world through your server. In this case you are serving as a CC"smarthost" for dumb clients (like MUAs on Windows machines, etc). CC CCCharles CC THANKS CHARLES ! This solved all my questions! Thanks a lot. Dario
Re: newbie question
Dario Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for boring you, but i have this problem i cannot understand: At this point i have a tcpserver at the moment allowing connections only from localhost. You're preventing connections to port 25 completely? Please post the contents of your smtp.rules file to be more clear on exactly what you are allowing/disallowing. If i try to do relaying from a host that is not allowed i get the message: "553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts". Yes, the expected behaviour. The question is :If i try to send an e-mail to a domain that's contained in rcpthosts, from an unautorized host, i get no errors and the email arrives...why this? with this method can't i be able to mail bomb any e-mail address of this domain? rcpthosts lists machines/domains which you are willing to accept mail for. They may be local, or they may be other machines for which you are providing secondary MX service. This is expected behaviour. Either you don't quite understand how internet mail works, or you're being unclear in what you are trying to accomplish here. Could you explain better what you are trying to do, and why you think it's not correct? Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Re: newbie question
CCYou're preventing connections to port 25 completely? CCPlease post the contents of your smtp.rules file to be more clear on exactly CCwhat you are allowing/disallowing. the rule is : 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" CC CC If i try to do relaying from a host that is not allowed i get the message: CC "553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts". CC CCYes, the expected behaviour. Ok never said the opposit CC CC The question is :If i try to send an e-mail to a domain that's contained CC in rcpthosts, from an unautorized host, i get no errors and the email CC arrives...why this? CC with this method can't i be able to mail bomb any e-mail address of this CC domain? CC CCrcpthosts lists machines/domains which you are willing to accept mail for. CCThey may be local, or they may be other machines for which you are providing CCsecondary MX service. This is expected behaviour. CCEither you don't quite understand how internet mail works, or you're being CCunclear in what you are trying to accomplish here. Could you explain better CCwhat you are trying to do, and why you think it's not correct? Well probably i was not clear! I am a "son of Sendmail" and i am trying to set up qmail in the best way, to understand its full possibilities. Obviously it 's not really easy to do this, using the mess of documentation that's around...anyway taking the time needed i am trying to do this. Let's do an example: I put the domain foo.com in rcpthosts. Now qmail will accept mails for *@foo.com. I put a rule in tcpservers to allow relaying only from localhost and my LAN hosts. Now i telnet to another host, not autorised to do relaying; from here: telnet my qmail machine port 25 220 welcome message helo cippalippa.org 250 welcome message mail from:k 250 Ok rcpt to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 OK data 354 go ahead PTTT . 250 ok 976727180 qp 4190 quit Well i think this is not fair. Infact anyone could send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and any other standard address, being completely anonymous. I think i missed something in configuration or otherwise i didnt understand well how qmail works. My previous mail was NOT to claim that qmail is bugged as some1 could have understood. Now i hope things are clearer Thnx Dario
Re: newbie question
Dario Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CCYou're preventing connections to port 25 completely? CCPlease post the CCcontents of your smtp.rules file to be more clear on exactly CCwhat you CCare allowing/disallowing. the rule is : 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" Okay, you're not denying connections at all. You're setting the RELAYCLIENT only if the remote IP address is 127.*.*.* . I put the domain foo.com in rcpthosts. Now qmail will accept mails for *@foo.com. I put a rule in tcpservers to allow relaying only from localhost and my LAN hosts. Now i telnet to another host, not autorised to do relaying; from here: telnet my qmail machine port 25 220 welcome message helo cippalippa.org 250 welcome message mail from:k 250 Ok rcpt to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 OK data 354 go ahead PTTT . 250 ok 976727180 qp 4190 quit Well i think this is not fair. Infact anyone could send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and any other standard address, being completely anonymous. The mail transaction above is not an example of (unauthorized) relaying. By putting the domain in rcpthosts, you have told qmail-smtpd "I am willing to accept mail from anyone which has an envelope recipient of [EMAIL PROTECTED]" If foo.com is in your locals file, the message will be delivered locally. If foo.com is in your virtualdomains file, it will be treated as a virtual domain and delivered to a local user. If foo.com is in neither locals nor controls, qmail will attempt to deliver it to the highest priority MX for foo.com, and therefore serving as a secodary MX for foo.com. I think i missed something in configuration or otherwise i didnt understand well how qmail works. Yes, it's a problem with your understanding of qmail. To receive mail from the world at large, you have to allow everyone to connect to your SMTP port. You should then accept/reject mail based on the envelope recipient -- accepting mail which is for addresses in your local domain(s) and virtual domains (if any), and possibly a few others for which you provide backup MX service, and rejecting everything else. Then, in addition, you can set the RELAYCLIENT variable as you did above for certain IP addresses (typically those on your company LAN or private network), to allow only those IP addresses to relay mail to anywhere else in the world through your server. In this case you are serving as a "smarthost" for dumb clients (like MUAs on Windows machines, etc). Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
RE: Newbie question
PLEASE DO NOT READ NEWBIE QUESTION IF WANT TO USE THOSE DEROGATORY STATEMENTS .YU DONT EVEN HELP EITHER .I AM SURE THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO HELP! -Original Message- From: Henning Brauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 6:55 AM To: suresh; Qmail-Ldap@Argus. Pipeline. Ch Subject: Re: Newbie question Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2000 13:24 schrieb suresh: You are giving us much to less infos to help you. Check if the file mentioned in the error message exists and is world readable. If not, RTFM before asking here. Hi I have installed qmail-ldap patch,whenever i start the qmail ,i get this info I have made a file in the control folder and i tried by entering the ip address as well as by the dns name i am not able start the debug process even after i set the env variable ,Is there any particular syntax i should be calling qmail-start for this? bash-2.03# Nov 29 11:11:21 qmailjol qmail: [ID 748625 mail.alert] 975467481.7424 69 alert: cannot start qmail-lspawn or it had an error! Check if ~control/ldapse rver exists Suresh Mithi.com Pvt. Ltd. -- Send and receive mail in Indian languages Register free at http://www.mailjol.com -- Henning Brauer | BS Web Services Hostmaster BSWS | Roedingsmarkt 14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 20459 Hamburg www.bsws.de| Germany
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Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2000 15:11 schrieb suresh: Suresh, for first writing such nonsens to the list and asking me for help off list does not fit together. before asking other busy people for help (it is no paid support staff here, we all have our work to do!), you should -have read the docs at least twice -checked if you fulfilled the requirements for qmail-ldap, both on you installation and youself (yes, the wonderfull sentence "you should have fairly good knowledge of qmail and ldap..." and so on in bold letters aside to the dowload link on the wepages -if you ask a question, provide all necessary information, in general as much as possible. At least OS, versions (including patch version), _complete_ logs, configuration -checked all logs yourself, including ldap logs, set loglevel to highest possible value - helps a lot PLEASE DO NOT READ NEWBIE QUESTION IF WANT TO USE THOSE DEROGATORY STATEMENTS .YU DONT EVEN HELP EITHER .I AM SURE THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO HELP! -Original Message- From: Henning Brauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 6:55 AM To: suresh; Qmail-Ldap@Argus. Pipeline. Ch Subject: Re: Newbie question Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2000 13:24 schrieb suresh: You are giving us much to less infos to help you. Check if the file mentioned in the error message exists and is world readable. If not, RTFM before asking here. Hi I have installed qmail-ldap patch,whenever i start the qmail ,i get this info I have made a file in the control folder and i tried by entering the ip address as well as by the dns name i am not able start the debug process even after i set the env variable ,Is there any particular syntax i should be calling qmail-start for this? bash-2.03# Nov 29 11:11:21 qmailjol qmail: [ID 748625 mail.alert] 975467481.7424 69 alert: cannot start qmail-lspawn or it had an error! Check if ~control/ldapse rver exists Suresh Mithi.com Pvt. Ltd. -- Send and receive mail in Indian languages Register free at http://www.mailjol.com -- Henning Brauer | BS Web Services Hostmaster BSWS | Roedingsmarkt 14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 20459 Hamburg www.bsws.de| Germany -- Henning Brauer | BS Web Services Hostmaster BSWS | Roedingsmarkt 14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 20459 Hamburg www.bsws.de| Germany
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Louis Mushandu wrote: Dear All, Fits qmail installation and all was fine until I tried to send email to the box. It produces the following error message This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host, it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as local. (#5.4.6) ^ You need mail.mongrel.com listed in /var/qmail/control/locals, from the info you provided it isn't in that file. HTH, Bill Carlson -- Systems Programmer[EMAIL PROTECTED]| Opinions are mine, Virtual Hospital http://www.vh.org/| not my employer's. University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics|
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on 11/29/00 3:17 PM, Louis Mushandu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host, it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as local. (#5.4.6) [...] locals :: mail.wonder.com:mcuser01 wonder.com qmail has told you exactly what the problem is. Would you prefer a less helpful error message? :-p You might want mongrel.com to be in control/virtualdomains instead, though. - Amitai
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From: Louis Mushandu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host, it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as local. (#5.4.6) I have done rtfm bit, hones,t but now I seem to be going round in circles. Follow the thread starting at man qmail-control, then man qmail-send, and check your locals file. On a sligthly more palatable form (IMHO), try http://binarios.com/miscnotes/qmail.html#q-control. Armando
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* Louis Mushandu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tried to send email to the box. It produces the following error message This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host, it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as local. (#5.4.6) locals :: mail.wonder.com:mcuser01 wonder.com That is certainly wrong. mail.mongrel.com should be in there. virtualdomains :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] And so is this. -- Robin S. Socha http://socha.net/
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Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2000 21:17 schrieb Louis Mushandu: locals mail.wonder.com:mcuser01 wonder.com virtualdomains [EMAIL PROTECTED] You mixed two files here. In locals just list every domain you are delivering myil locally for, on per line. in virtualdomains the mapping to users is done, so: locals: mail.wonder.com wonder.com any.other.domain virtualdomains: wonder.com:user1 mail.wonder.com:user2 and so on Thanks in advance. -- Henning Brauer | BS Web Services Hostmaster BSWS| Roedingsmarkt 14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 20459 Hamburg www.bsws.de| Germany
RE: [newbie question] IP logging?
If you setup qmail with tcpserver, accustamp, and cyclelog, as per the HOWTOs, you should be getting logging of qmail-pop3d connections in /var/log/qmail/qmail-pop3d -Steve -Original Message- From: Stefan Laudat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie question] IP logging? How can I see the incoming IPs of my pop3 clients? Thanks! -- Stefan Laudat http://www.pepsicola.ro/~stefan --- Love is the triumph of imagination over intelligence. -- H. L. Mencken
Re: newbie question: forward (almost) all mail to one address
"Robert Eric Pearse" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i want all mail sent to my server (except root, postmaster, abuse and MAILER-DAEMON) to go to one address. Set up your domain as a virtual domain. ie in /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains, put: mydomain.com: user Then add mydomain.com to /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts and /var/qmail/control/locals, and restart qmail. You can then create .qmail-postmaster, .qmail-root, etc files in ~user, or if you are feeling really inventive, try fastforward with a bit of a modification in the .qmail-default file so that undeliverable mails are delivered to a maildir. -- === |User: |Href: |Status:| --- |Brett Randall |http://xbox.ipsware.com/|Hibernating| === Generated by Microsoft Ass-Watcher s/(c)/(!c)/g 2003
Re: newbie question: forward (almost) all mail to one address
On 16-Oct-2000, Robert Eric Pearse wrote: i want all mail sent to my server (except root, postmaster, abuse and MAILER-DAEMON) to go to one address. any suggestions on the best way to configure that would be appreciated. Read about EXTENSION ADDRESSES in man dot-qmail. Hint: .qmail-default Ronny
Re: newbie question: forward (almost) all mail to one address
Ronny Haryanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 16-Oct-2000, Robert Eric Pearse wrote: i want all mail sent to my server (except root, postmaster, abuse and MAILER-DAEMON) to go to one address. any suggestions on the best way to configure that would be appreciated. Read about EXTENSION ADDRESSES in man dot-qmail. Hint: .qmail-default Doh! What was I thinking? :) Robert...forget what I said about virtual domains, just use ~alias/.qmail-default to deliver to a maildir (but still read man dot-qmail). -- === |User: |Href: |Status:| --- |Brett Randall |http://xbox.ipsware.com/|Hibernating| === Generated by Microsoft Ass-Watcher s/(c)/(!c)/g 2003
Re: newbie question: forward (almost) all mail to one address
echo cliff .qmail-default /etc/init.d/svscan stop /etc/init.d/svscan start sent mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it bounced like so instead of going to [EMAIL PROTECTED] am i missing something? tia, pearse === Hi. This is the qmail-send program at cliff.carorder.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This message is looping: it already has my Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6) --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 11051 invoked by alias); 16 Oct 2000 22:15:51 - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 11048 invoked by alias); 16 Oct 2000 22:15:51 - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 11045 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2000 22:15:51 - Received: from mail.carorder.com (HELO notesapps.carorder.com) (149.74.187.70) by 216.34.168.210 with SMTP; 16 Oct 2000 22:15:51 - Received: from jabroni ([149.74.14.145]) by notesapps.carorder.com (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.3) with SMTP id 2000101617180356:2546 ; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 17:18:03 -0500 Message-ID: 009401c037be$fbc80ec0$910e4a95@jabroni From: "Robert Eric Pearse" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: test Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 17:18:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on Apps/Carorder(Release 5.0.3 |March 21, 2000) at 10/16/2000 05:18:03 PM, Serialize by Router on Apps/Carorder(Release 5.0.3 |March 21, 2000) at 10/16/2000 05:18:05 PM, Serialize complete at 10/16/2000 05:18:05 PM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" test
Re: newbie question: forward (almost) all mail to one address
"Robert Eric Pearse" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: echo cliff .qmail-default /etc/init.d/svscan stop /etc/init.d/svscan start sent mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it bounced like so instead of going to [EMAIL PROTECTED] am i missing something? Look below: Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What does that say? Is that how you spell cliff? My guess is you misspelled in the echo line. Take a look. tia, pearse -- === |User: |Href: |Status:| --- |Brett Randall |http://xbox.ipsware.com/|Hibernating| === Generated by Microsoft Ass-Watcher s/(c)/(!c)/g 2003
Re: newbie question: forward (almost) all mail to one address
ha! thanks, man! ;-) - Original Message - From: "Brett Randall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Robert Eric Pearse" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 5:31 PM Subject: Re: newbie question: forward (almost) all mail to one address "Robert Eric Pearse" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: echo cliff .qmail-default /etc/init.d/svscan stop /etc/init.d/svscan start sent mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it bounced like so instead of going to [EMAIL PROTECTED] am i missing something? Look below: Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What does that say? Is that how you spell cliff? My guess is you misspelled in the echo line. Take a look. tia, pearse -- === |User: |Href: |Status:| --- |Brett Randall |http://xbox.ipsware.com/|Hibernating| === Generated by Microsoft Ass-Watcher s/(c)/(!c)/g 2003
Re: Newbie question
"home qmail: 962410407.609427 delivery 33: deferral:unable_to_open_./Maildir:_is_a_directory._(#4.2.1)/" Presumably your delivery instruction says "./Maildir". For maildir delivery you need a trailing slash: "./Maildir/". Regards, Giles
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Changed the /var/qmail/rc file to read this qmail-start ./Maildir/ splogger qmail and now i get this error message in the mail log starting delivery 8: msg 20539 to local chad@"domain.com" deferral: Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)/ do i need the ./Maildir/ to be in quotes ?? Chad - Original Message - From: "Giles Lean" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Chad Cranston" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 7:14 PM Subject: Re: Newbie question "home qmail: 962410407.609427 delivery 33: deferral:unable_to_open_./Maildir:_is_a_directory._(#4.2.1)/" Presumably your delivery instruction says "./Maildir". For maildir delivery you need a trailing slash: "./Maildir/". Regards, Giles
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On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 10:39:36PM -0700, Chad Cranston wrote: Changed the /var/qmail/rc file to read this qmail-start ./Maildir/ splogger qmail and now i get this error message in the mail log starting delivery 8: msg 20539 to local chad@"domain.com" deferral: Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)/ This error is probably due to a rights problem or a non existant $HOME/Maildir/ did you do : su -l [username] maildirmake $HOME/Maildir ??? do i need the ./Maildir/ to be in quotes ?? You need to create the Maildir AS the user in who's home directory you're creating it. Chad HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
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Qmail isn't hard to set up, although I recommend having at it a couple of times before you install your production server. Migrating from mercury mail may be more difficult, I don't know enough about mercury mail to give you an idea about how its features might affect migration. Qmail allows many pop options, including its own qmail-pop3d, but also Cyrus, Qpopper, imap-4.5, etc... Other applications such as vpopper and Squebmail allow this flexible mta to serve more functions, like a webmail server. Finally, there's a patch allowing ldap support. On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Les Higger wrote: hello one and all... I have been running mercury mail for several years.. it runs on an ol novell puppy. I would like to build a mail server using a linux box. I have 12 linux servers but never ventured into the mail realm. how easy would it be to use qmail ? can it be a pop server ? I only have 80 clients so were a pretty small shop.. mail volume is pretty low.. thanks for any advise ;-) *++* * Les Higger ITAF , * Local Area Network Coord. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Francisco Bravo Medical Magnet High School * Los Angeles Unified School District --- Old men can give flawless advice, for they nolonger can set bad examples ---
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I used the Memphis distribution which I got from the qmail.org sit a link called RPM (it's on moni something) My current status is: Deliveries work great. Virtual Domains, and hosting works great. POP3 authentication (checking mail from the outside world) fails SAMBA is broken (I think due to the fact that the Memphis distribution installs it's own TCP handling) There have been a lot of helpful suggestions since Sunday as to what might be wrong with POP3. My guess is that I need to change the qmail-pop3d.init scripts in the rc#.d files to S...blah rather than K...blah so the sequence is correct (this is one of the suggestions) Since Sunday night I haven't been able to get to my Linux machine long enough to try these suggestions. I'll keep the list appraised of what pans out. Alex -Original Message- From: gene Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 5:41 PM To: Alex Miller Subject: RE: Newbie Question - Please Read! I have tried one RPM. It didn't work. Can you point me to the RPM you used. (Yes, I am running RedHat Linux.) Also, are you able to check mail from the outside world? I want to be able to read and send from a client Mac, and a client PC. If the RPM you used didn't get you this far, than I might end up with half a system and totally confused to the point that I can't finish the job myself. thanks for the reply. - gene well, if you have Redhat Linux like I do here has been my experience. I installed QMail using the tarball, running through each step carefully by hand, and with help from members on this list, finally got it to work. I could send mail out (unlike you) but I couldn't recieve remote email. I was sure that I had done something wrong with the remove sendmail steps since my system did not have things configured exactly as described in the INSTALL, and I wasn't that confident in my guesses. So last night I took down the RPM's (a whole bunch of them, and set the whole thing up, deleting my qmail install, rpm'ing the src, then rpming the required preinstall stuff, and finally rpming qmail). When I rebooted it worked and was very different. There was a whole new qmail process running when I did ps-aux, there was no /var/qmail/rc file at all, there was a whole slew of extra .qmail-*** files in my alias folder, and lo and behold it worked, in particular, I could now send myself mail from the outside world. So my feeling is that Redhat systems are sufficiently different from the norm that their own unique install of QMail is required and the only way to get that right now, is by using RPM's. Alex Miller -Original Message- From: gene Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 19, 1999 1:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Newbie Question - Please Read! I just tried this howto. It is the best one yet for helping understand this system. But, I still can't get smtp to work. That is if I send from another place to my system with qmail, it is bouced back. I get this ___ Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.surfup.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host, it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as local. (#5.4.6) --- I feel like I'm getting somewhere with this. But, I have no idea how I'm going to get POP mail working. - gene At 1:06 AM -0400 6/19/99, Dale Miracle wrote: Kevin King wrote: I recently got my RH Linux box working wtith Qmail (with a huge amount of help from Dave Sill). When I installed Qmail setup the following files as such: I found this web site tonight that might help some people. I am also trying to setup qmail my self because sendmail's virtual mail setup is EVIL..I hate m4 and makemap shudder. Any how here is the link http://www.flounder.net/qmail/qmail-howto.html I found it while searching through many howto's and web pages trying to make sense of the hundreds of interpretations of the qmail doc's. I read it all the way through and it sounds pretty good...to bad I found it at 1 am :( I have been staring at this monitor of mine for over 3 hours now. I think I am just going to remove what I have and install qmail fresh tomorrow. I hope this help's, I know it made more sense to me... Later, -- Dale Miracle System Administrator Teoi Net
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On Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:04:04 -0400, "Alex Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: A So my feeling is that Redhat systems are sufficiently different from the A norm that their own unique install of QMail is required and the only way A to get that right now, is by using RPM's. I'm running RedHat-5.0 on a Pentium-Pro, and the only problem I had with compiling qmail from sources is creating a fake DNS setup. I don't have a modem hooked up at home. *sob* -- Karl Vogel ASC/YCOA, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH 45433, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Most Likely to Be at the Opening of An Envelope: Ellen Degeneres Anne Heche.--Movieline, November 1998
Re: Newbie Question - Please Read!
On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, gene Campbell wrote: I just tried this howto. It is the best one yet for helping understand this system. But, I still can't get smtp to work. That is if I send from another place to my system with qmail, it is bouced back. I get this ___ Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.surfup.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host, it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as local. (#5.4.6) --- I feel like I'm getting somewhere with this. But, I have no idea how I'm going to get POP mail working. what should mail.surfup.com do with the mail for surfup.com? do ONE ONLY of the following: if it should deliver it locally put surfup.com into control/locals delivery is now done to local users if surfup.com is one of many individual domains then put surfup.com:username-surfup into control/virtualdomains delivery is now controlled by ~username/.qmail-surfup-* if it should deliver to somewhere else then put surfup.com:[ip.address.of.somewhereelse] into control/smtproutes mail will be forwarded to the host on the ip address inside the square brackets. you could put a hostname in there if you like.
Re: Newbie Question - Please Read!
I just tried this howto. It is the best one yet for helping understand this system. But, I still can't get smtp to work. That is if I send from another place to my system with qmail, it is bouced back. I get this ___ Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.surfup.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host, it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as local. (#5.4.6) --- I feel like I'm getting somewhere with this. But, I have no idea how I'm going to get POP mail working. - gene At 1:06 AM -0400 6/19/99, Dale Miracle wrote: Kevin King wrote: I recently got my RH Linux box working wtith Qmail (with a huge amount of help from Dave Sill). When I installed Qmail setup the following files as such: I found this web site tonight that might help some people. I am also trying to setup qmail my self because sendmail's virtual mail setup is EVIL..I hate m4 and makemap shudder. Any how here is the link http://www.flounder.net/qmail/qmail-howto.html I found it while searching through many howto's and web pages trying to make sense of the hundreds of interpretations of the qmail doc's. I read it all the way through and it sounds pretty good...to bad I found it at 1 am :( I have been staring at this monitor of mine for over 3 hours now. I think I am just going to remove what I have and install qmail fresh tomorrow. I hope this help's, I know it made more sense to me... Later, -- Dale Miracle System Administrator Teoi Net
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gene Campbell wrote: I just tried this howto. It is the best one yet for helping understand this system. But, I still can't get smtp to work. That is if I send from another place to my system with qmail, it is bouced back. I get this ___ Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.surfup.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host, it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as local. (#5.4.6) --- I feel like I'm getting somewhere with this. But, I have no idea how I'm going to get POP mail working. - gene At 1:06 AM -0400 6/19/99, Dale Miracle wrote: Kevin King wrote: I recently got my RH Linux box working wtith Qmail (with a huge amount of help from Dave Sill). When I installed Qmail setup the following files as such: I found this web site tonight that might help some people. I am also trying to setup qmail my self because sendmail's virtual mail setup is EVIL..I hate m4 and makemap shudder. Any how here is the link http://www.flounder.net/qmail/qmail-howto.html I found it while searching through many howto's and web pages trying to make sense of the hundreds of interpretations of the qmail doc's. I read it all the way through and it sounds pretty good...to bad I found it at 1 am :( I have been staring at this monitor of mine for over 3 hours now. I think I am just going to remove what I have and install qmail fresh tomorrow. I hope this help's, I know it made more sense to me... Later, -- Dale Miracle System Administrator Teoi Net I read in one the howto's tonight that you need to put all systems in your net that do your mx (mail exchange) in fqdn (fully qualified domain name) format in the control/locals file. An example of fqdn is, demon-spawn.teoi.net . If you can help it do not use cname's as your mx records in your dns. (ignore the following if you already know ;) ) cnames are conical or alias names for A records in dns. A records are the real names of machine, A records combined with your domain name gives you your fqdn. MX is mail exchanger (mail server). My mail server is demon-spawn.teoi.net it has a cname of smtp.teoi.net . The mx record uses demon-spawn.teoi.net not smtp.teoi.net . You can get away with using cnames but some systems will not work using that. I sent a message to your system and looked at the message transcript. (after checking your dns if needed) make sure your domain name is in defaulthost, defaultdomain, plusdomains and your mail server's fqdn in locals, me, rcphosts . I had qmail working tonight with pine (didn't have pop setup for qmail) with this config. Any questions just ask. Later, -- Dale Miracle System Administrator Teoi Net
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Kevin King wrote: I recently got my RH Linux box working wtith Qmail (with a huge amount of help from Dave Sill). When I installed Qmail setup the following files as such: I found this web site tonight that might help some people. I am also trying to setup qmail my self because sendmail's virtual mail setup is EVIL..I hate m4 and makemap shudder. Any how here is the link http://www.flounder.net/qmail/qmail-howto.html I found it while searching through many howto's and web pages trying to make sense of the hundreds of interpretations of the qmail doc's. I read it all the way through and it sounds pretty good...to bad I found it at 1 am :( I have been staring at this monitor of mine for over 3 hours now. I think I am just going to remove what I have and install qmail fresh tomorrow. I hope this help's, I know it made more sense to me... Later, -- Dale Miracle System Administrator Teoi Net
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well, if you have Redhat Linux like I do here has been my experience. I installed QMail using the tarball, running through each step carefully by hand, and with help from members on this list, finally got it to work. I could send mail out (unlike you) but I couldn't recieve remote email. I was sure that I had done something wrong with the remove sendmail steps since my system did not have things configured exactly as described in the INSTALL, and I wasn't that confident in my guesses. So last night I took down the RPM's (a whole bunch of them, and set the whole thing up, deleting my qmail install, rpm'ing the src, then rpming the required preinstall stuff, and finally rpming qmail). When I rebooted it worked and was very different. There was a whole new qmail process running when I did ps-aux, there was no /var/qmail/rc file at all, there was a whole slew of extra .qmail-*** files in my alias folder, and lo and behold it worked, in particular, I could now send myself mail from the outside world. So my feeling is that Redhat systems are sufficiently different from the norm that their own unique install of QMail is required and the only way to get that right now, is by using RPM's. Alex Miller -Original Message- From: gene Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 19, 1999 1:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Newbie Question - Please Read! I just tried this howto. It is the best one yet for helping understand this system. But, I still can't get smtp to work. That is if I send from another place to my system with qmail, it is bouced back. I get this ___ Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.surfup.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host, it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as local. (#5.4.6) --- I feel like I'm getting somewhere with this. But, I have no idea how I'm going to get POP mail working. - gene At 1:06 AM -0400 6/19/99, Dale Miracle wrote: Kevin King wrote: I recently got my RH Linux box working wtith Qmail (with a huge amount of help from Dave Sill). When I installed Qmail setup the following files as such: I found this web site tonight that might help some people. I am also trying to setup qmail my self because sendmail's virtual mail setup is EVIL..I hate m4 and makemap shudder. Any how here is the link http://www.flounder.net/qmail/qmail-howto.html I found it while searching through many howto's and web pages trying to make sense of the hundreds of interpretations of the qmail doc's. I read it all the way through and it sounds pretty good...to bad I found it at 1 am :( I have been staring at this monitor of mine for over 3 hours now. I think I am just going to remove what I have and install qmail fresh tomorrow. I hope this help's, I know it made more sense to me... Later, -- Dale Miracle System Administrator Teoi Net
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On Sat, Jun 19, 1999 at 08:04:04AM -0400, Alex Miller wrote: well, if you have Redhat Linux like I do here has been my experience. I installed QMail using the tarball, running through each step carefully by hand, and with help from members on this list, finally got it to work. I could send mail out (unlike you) but I couldn't recieve remote email. I was sure that I had done something wrong with the remove sendmail steps since my system did not have things configured exactly as described in the INSTALL, and I wasn't that confident in my guesses. So last night I took down the RPM's (a whole bunch of them, and set the whole thing up, deleting my qmail install, rpm'ing the src, then rpming the required preinstall stuff, and finally rpming qmail). When I rebooted it worked and was very different. There was a whole new qmail process running when I did ps-aux, there was no /var/qmail/rc file at all, there was a whole slew of extra .qmail-*** files in my alias folder, and lo and behold it worked, in particular, I could now send myself mail from the outside world. So my feeling is that Redhat systems are sufficiently different from the norm that their own unique install of QMail is required and the only way to get that right now, is by using RPM's. Redhat systems are no different from anything else, and there's nothing to preclude installing qmail from the tarball. I've installed qmail on several Redhat boxes, always from the tarball. You follow the qmail installation instructions, remove (or at least disable the script that starts) sendmail, and start your qmail stuff from some script that runs at bootup, and you're in business. This is exactly how it's installed on any system. You do, of course, have to know a little about how things start up at boot time on a Redhat system, but you'd have to know that about any system. Chris
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I don't think that's entirely accurate. That is, if Redhat (mine is Linux Mandrake - Redhat + KDE) systems are no different than other systems then the documentation would be written slightly differently. For example: The /var/qmail/doc/INSTALL file says: 16. Set up qmail-smtpd in /etc/inetd.conf (all on one line): smpt stream tcp nowait qmaild /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env tcp-env /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd This is what I did when I installed using the tarball, despite the warning near the old commented out smtp line claiming that smtp is set in the sendmail scripts (later steps about that). However I could not recieve mail and when I ran telnet 127.0.0.1 25 I got a disconnected host. When I did the RPM install, it works, I can recieve mail, but nowhere in my /etc/inetd.conf is SMTP configured. However, in /etc/rc.d/init.d there are several new files which are not mentioned at all in the tarball INSTALL like qmail-pop3d.init, qmail-qmpqpd.init, qmail-qmpt.init, qmail-smtpd.init, qmail.init and they each have pointers in the /etc/rc.d/rc#.d files. This is just one example of differences (there are quite a few others) that I noticed from the effect of using the RPM install vs. the tarball RTFM install. But of course the really important difference for me is that the RPM install resulted in the successful ability to recieve mail, whereas my careful tarball installation did not. Alex Miller -Original Message- From: Chris Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 19, 1999 8:24 AM To: Alex Miller Cc: gene Campbell; Qmail Subject: Re: Newbie Question - Please Read! On Sat, Jun 19, 1999 at 08:04:04AM -0400, Alex Miller wrote: well, if you have Redhat Linux like I do here has been my experience. I installed QMail using the tarball, running through each step carefully by hand, and with help from members on this list, finally got it to work. I could send mail out (unlike you) but I couldn't recieve remote email. I was sure that I had done something wrong with the remove sendmail steps since my system did not have things configured exactly as described in the INSTALL, and I wasn't that confident in my guesses. So last night I took down the RPM's (a whole bunch of them, and set the whole thing up, deleting my qmail install, rpm'ing the src, then rpming the required preinstall stuff, and finally rpming qmail). When I rebooted it worked and was very different. There was a whole new qmail process running when I did ps-aux, there was no /var/qmail/rc file at all, there was a whole slew of extra .qmail-*** files in my alias folder, and lo and behold it worked, in particular, I could now send myself mail from the outside world. So my feeling is that Redhat systems are sufficiently different from the norm that their own unique install of QMail is required and the only way to get that right now, is by using RPM's. Redhat systems are no different from anything else, and there's nothing to preclude installing qmail from the tarball. I've installed qmail on several Redhat boxes, always from the tarball. You follow the qmail installation instructions, remove (or at least disable the script that starts) sendmail, and start your qmail stuff from some script that runs at bootup, and you're in business. This is exactly how it's installed on any system. You do, of course, have to know a little about how things start up at boot time on a Redhat system, but you'd have to know that about any system. Chris
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Alex Miller wrote: When I did the RPM install, it works, I can recieve mail, but nowhere in my /etc/inetd.conf is SMTP configured. Aha. That's because you're using the memphis RPM which controls qmail from... However, in /etc/rc.d/init.d there are several new files which are not mentioned at all in the tarball INSTALL like qmail-pop3d.init, qmail-qmpqpd.init, qmail-qmpt.init, qmail-smtpd.init, qmail.init and they each have pointers in the /etc/rc.d/rc#.d files. ...a set of scripts that use djb's daemontools! So my feeling is that Redhat systems are sufficiently different from the norm that their own unique install of QMail is required and the only way to get that right now, is by using RPM's. Redhat systems are no different from anything else, and there's nothing to preclude installing qmail from the tarball. I've installed qmail on several Redhat boxes, always from the tarball. You follow the qmail installation instructions, remove (or at least disable the script that starts) sendmail, and start your qmail stuff from some script that runs at bootup, and you're in business. This is exactly how it's installed on any system. This is exactly *one* way to install on any system. It is the the *default* installation method. I think the problem here is one of mis-understanding just what an RPM distribution is. There is no "official" RPM distribution of qmail. There are a couple of contributed RPMs which result in a qmail installation that is setup and configured according to the personal preferences of the RPM author. Mate Wierdl (who does the memphis RPM) chooses to not start qmail from inetd and uses daemontools and a very nice set of rc scripts. I was so impressed with this approach that I replicated it on our FreeBSd boxes at work. So, in summary, there's more than one way to skin a cat; or install a qmail in this case! R. -- Two rules to success in life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know. -- Sassan Tat
