[QUAD-L] Re: Frustration and Van Contract

[Nichole Rohling]

SUPPOSEDLY THEY HAULED IT ON A TRUCK TO AND FROM. I PROBABLY NEED TO CHECK THE 
MILEAGE!
THE ONLY THING VANCE IS DOING IS THE EZ LOCKS AND FITTING CONTROLS - HOUSTON 
DID ALL INSTALLATION OF IDS. VOC REHAB HAD NO IDEA NEWBY VANCE WAS SENDING TO 
HOUSTON.

VOC REHAB INIATED BID PROCESS, NEWBY VANCE HAD LOWEST AND SO THAT'S WHERE IT 
WENT.


WHAT IS NMEDA?
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 6:46 PM
  Subject: Frustration and Van Contract


  Thanks for the update.  I'm more confused, thanks (lol)

  You mentioned Freedom Wheels in Houston and then Newby Vance Mobiity in OK.  
Both dealers are approved as IDS dealers.

  Voc Rehab, controls the contract as they are the payee.  So contractually, 
Voc Rehab takes the lead on all approvals and changes to the original contract. 
 

  How did your IMS van get to OK and Houston?
  Were all systems installed at one location or shared between Freedom and 
Vance Mobility.
  What has Voc Rehab suggested at this point?

  Once you have all of your facts in timeline and verified
  If these dealers are NMEDA, you have the right to arbitration after all is 
said 
  and done.  This won't apply to the time because of the weather, but rather 
all that
  doesn't work and that which is missing.

  Best Wishes
  W


  In a message dated 7/29/2007 6:14:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
YES, I TURNED IN AN IMS CONVERTED VAN MAY 7 TO NEWBY VANCE MOBILITY 
(DEALER). THEY GOT THE CONTRACT AFTER BID PROCESS THRU VOC REHAB. I WAS TOLD 
4/6 WEEKS FOR 

ZERO EFFORT STEERING
IDS CONTROLS (EVERYTHING BUT MY RADIO)
ELECTRONIC GAS/BRAKE
EZ LOCKS

THE LAST WEEK OF JUNE THE PEOPLE IN HOUSTON TOLD ME VAN WAS DONE AND WOULD 
BE TEST DRIVEN THE WEEKEND B/4 4TH OF JULY AND WOULD BE BACK TO DEALER BY THE 
6TH.
THEN CAME THE B.S. ABOUT FLOODING BUT HOUSTON TOLD ME THEY CAME OUT W/ NEW 
EQUIP AND UPGRADED ME TO THAT AND THAT WAS THE DELAY. IN THE MEANTIME MY IMS 
CONVERSION DOESN'T WORK NOW AND MY PASSENGER SEAT IS MISSING.

NICKI






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[QUAD-L] Re: FRUSTRATION

[wheelchair]

 
In a message dated 7/29/2007 1:12:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

THE DEALER ACTUALLY TOLD ME HE DIDN'T RECALL MY VAN HAVING A PASSENGER  SEAT 
WHEN HE CHECKED IT IN, I ASSURED HIM IT DID, THEN HE SAID I DIDN'T SAY  YOU 
WERE LYING. OOH!
HE DID SAY IF IT COULDN'T BE LOCATED THEY WOULD PURCHASE ONE - BUT IN THE  
MEANTIME IF I WANTED TO TAKE MY 22 YR OLD TO DINNER, HE'D HAVE TO SIT IN THE  
BACK SEAT!

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Re: [QUAD-L] Re: FRUSTRATION

[Nichole Rohling]

ACTUALLY THE slackjawed, lying sack of human excrement IS PART OWNER OF NEWBY 
VANCE MOBILITY IN GUTHRIE OK. THEY CONTRACTED THE IDS INSTALLATION TO FREEDOM 
WHEELS IN HOUSTON. I DO PLAN ON TALKING W/ VOC REHAB MONDAY ABOUT ALL OF THIS 
BECAUSE THEY ARE PAYING FOR IT AND I WILL BE CONTACTING THE BBB.

NICHOLE
  - Original Message - 
  From: John S. 
  To: Nichole Rohling ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Quadlist 
  Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: FRUSTRATION


  When you get through this crap with that slackjawed, lying sack of human 
excrement, be sure to write a report for the better business bureau. 
  If  your in texas, can't you shoot him legally?

  john

   
  - Original Message 
  From: Nichole Rohling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Quadlist 
  Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:12:05 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: FRUSTRATION


  THE DEALER ACTUALLY TOLD ME HE DIDN'T RECALL MY VAN HAVING A PASSENGER SEAT 
WHEN HE CHECKED IT IN, I ASSURED HIM IT DID, THEN HE SAID I DIDN'T SAY YOU WERE 
LYING. OOH!
  HE DID SAY IF IT COULDN'T BE LOCATED THEY WOULD PURCHASE ONE - BUT IN THE 
MEANTIME IF I WANTED TO TAKE MY 22 YR OLD TO DINNER, HE'D HAVE TO SIT IN THE 
BACK SEAT!
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:39 AM
Subject: FRUSTRATION


Someone other than you  will responsible for the front seat and that also 
will require time as behind the scene the dealer and the conversion shop is 
arguing "Who's To Blame."

You want the job done right, so you don't have to call them out at 2 in the 
am to service your van.
Keep on holding their feet/feat to the fire.
Best Wishes
W



In a message dated 7/29/2007 11:33:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
  thank you - my van already had the ims conversion so at least the floor. 
etc didn't have to be done. i know my emotions are running on overoload - 
knowing it's been 9 yrs since my accident and this new independence of driving 
will change mine and my 10 yr old daughter's life. it's just so frustrating 
that my passenger seat is lost, my auto door and kneel was working when i left 
it and now its not. to top it off my daughter leaves next thursday for 1 1/2 
weeks and all i want is to have my van before she leaves as she can't wait 
either.

  i knew you would have words of wisdom.

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[QUAD-L] Re: Quad gut possible cure

[John S.]

I'm just saying, if you use enough amps you will not only eliminate a quad gut, 
but also eliminate anything in your bowels and bladder and possibly forget why 
you did it to begin with ;->. 
There was a Doctor at wright state that had quads on big wheels by using 
Electromuscular stimulation. nobody in his program had a gut, I'm guessing that 
his studies got him a fellowship to some pergatory university after he married 
his top student. A C-7 that was very attractive, but you don't marry your 
projects. I'm looking to find anything about what he was using. Specifically, 
milliamps to electrodes. You may want to ask your doctor. I
I wouldn't be surprized to find out someone on this list knows a lot about EMS. 
It was done to many quads in 80's and 90's to get baseline information. 
If you gain about 50lbs nobody will notice a quad gut under all that fat. 
Whatever you decide, I hope you have fun and keep us informed.

john


- Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 8:47:40 AM
Subject: Quad gut possible cure


 
TENS Units, with the help of a certified physical therapist can work charms on 
various muscle group, over time.  With individual, those times will vary.  
Ofcourse a good diet doesn't hurt either.
W
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/28/2007 12:33:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Lets be realistic, its not voltage, its amperage that causes that electrical 
shock that burns your tastebuds. I've heard people say they get relief with a 
tens unit but I've heard plasebos are pretty effective too. Whatever you do, 
good luck.
 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Re: FRUSTRATION

[John S.]

When you get through this crap with that slackjawed, lying sack of human 
excrement, be sure to write a report for the better business bureau. 
If  your in texas, can't you shoot him legally?

john


- Original Message 
From: Nichole Rohling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Quadlist 
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:12:05 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: FRUSTRATION


THE DEALER ACTUALLY TOLD ME HE DIDN'T RECALL MY VAN HAVING A PASSENGER SEAT 
WHEN HE CHECKED IT IN, I ASSURED HIM IT DID, THEN HE SAID I DIDN'T SAY YOU WERE 
LYING. OOH!
HE DID SAY IF IT COULDN'T BE LOCATED THEY WOULD PURCHASE ONE - BUT IN THE 
MEANTIME IF I WANTED TO TAKE MY 22 YR OLD TO DINNER, HE'D HAVE TO SIT IN THE 
BACK SEAT!
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:39 AM
Subject: FRUSTRATION


Someone other than you  will responsible for the front seat and that also will 
require time as behind the scene the dealer and the conversion shop is arguing 
"Who's To Blame."
 
You want the job done right, so you don't have to call them out at 2 in the am 
to service your van.
Keep on holding their feet/feat to the fire.
Best Wishes
W
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/29/2007 11:33:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
thank you - my van already had the ims conversion so at least the floor. etc 
didn't have to be done. i know my emotions are running on overoload - knowing 
it's been 9 yrs since my accident and this new independence of driving will 
change mine and my 10 yr old daughter's life. it's just so frustrating that my 
passenger seat is lost, my auto door and kneel was working when i left it and 
now its not. to top it off my daughter leaves next thursday for 1 1/2 weeks and 
all i want is to have my van before she leaves as she can't wait either.
 
i knew you would have words of wisdom.
 
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[QUAD-L] Re: FRUSTRATION

[Nichole Rohling]

THE DEALER ACTUALLY TOLD ME HE DIDN'T RECALL MY VAN HAVING A PASSENGER SEAT 
WHEN HE CHECKED IT IN, I ASSURED HIM IT DID, THEN HE SAID I DIDN'T SAY YOU WERE 
LYING. OOH!
HE DID SAY IF IT COULDN'T BE LOCATED THEY WOULD PURCHASE ONE - BUT IN THE 
MEANTIME IF I WANTED TO TAKE MY 22 YR OLD TO DINNER, HE'D HAVE TO SIT IN THE 
BACK SEAT!
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:39 AM
  Subject: FRUSTRATION


  Someone other than you  will responsible for the front seat and that also 
will require time as behind the scene the dealer and the conversion shop is 
arguing "Who's To Blame."

  You want the job done right, so you don't have to call them out at 2 in the 
am to service your van.
  Keep on holding their feet/feat to the fire.
  Best Wishes
  W



  In a message dated 7/29/2007 11:33:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
thank you - my van already had the ims conversion so at least the floor. 
etc didn't have to be done. i know my emotions are running on overoload - 
knowing it's been 9 yrs since my accident and this new independence of driving 
will change mine and my 10 yr old daughter's life. it's just so frustrating 
that my passenger seat is lost, my auto door and kneel was working when i left 
it and now its not. to top it off my daughter leaves next thursday for 1 1/2 
weeks and all i want is to have my van before she leaves as she can't wait 
either.

i knew you would have words of wisdom.

nicki 






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[QUAD-L] Re: VAN & FRUSTRATION

[Nichole Rohling]

thank you - my van already had the ims conversion so at least the floor. etc 
didn't have to be done. i know my emotions are running on overoload - knowing 
it's been 9 yrs since my accident and this new independence of driving will 
change mine and my 10 yr old daughter's life. it's just so frustrating that my 
passenger seat is lost, my auto door and kneel was working when i left it and 
now its not. to top it off my daughter leaves next thursday for 1 1/2 weeks and 
all i want is to have my van before she leaves as she can't wait either.

i knew you would have words of wisdom.

nicki 
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:01 AM
  Subject: VAN & FRUSTRATION


  Hi Nicki,
  You are a victim of the McDonald Syndrome, if you get my drift.  But I still 
feel for your situation.
  The retail end of the conversion industry has been known to oversell their 
capabilities and finished product when massed produced.  And that is not good.

  Taking a brand new or slightly used van, and redesigning it is really not 
that easy.  The more complex the need, the more difficult to produce the finish 
product.  And this is under perfect conditions.  Granted, under near perfect 
conditions, it does take 4-8 weeks of time. That can also be affected by 
conditions that you have no control over, like weather, supply of conversion 
supplies, how many conversions are scheduled for that month and if the 
companies are paying their bills.

  its like going to McDonalds and buying a large soft drink and then finding 
out there are no straws, lol.
  Wait its McDonalds.  And they have NO STRAWS that day.  It happens, 
believe me.  And you can't drinks a 40 oz drink on a hot day without a straw.

  I'm hoping that your base van was approved and is suitable for conversion 
with enough wheelbase and the heavy duty towing package options.  Without it, 
it could add several additional weeks to the conversion process.   Ah, the 
weather.  How can you change or affect the weather.  We all know that Houston 
has had some bad weather, but who in Houston is doing the actual conversion?  
Definitely, not Braun.  They are in Indiana.  So when the weather is that bad 
and Houston is under water, how do employees get to work and finish your van.  
Major conversion factories have computers and people to operate them.   When a 
vehicle is entered into their system, you can or the dealer can follow the 
progress of the conversion until they see/read released for shipment to 
dealer/customer. Conversions done by garage mechanicals, don't have that luxury.
  Often the conversion process is broken down into 36-40 steps and the normal 
time it takes to perform each step.  You've got to remember that a radical 
conversion on a mini van requires your van to start at the upholstery shop when 
the van is completely disassembled.  Anything that can be scratched or burn 
must be removed, before the conversion process can be scheduled.  The van may 
then go to fabrication shop.  The van is introduced to the FAB Shop almost 
naked with no insides, except a wiring harness.  Doors, windows and interior 
are completely removed.  Fuel tank and exhaust system must be removed before 
the floor can be processed.  A new fuel cell and exhaust must be ordered too.  
Wiring must be relocated and secured before the cutting of the floor can begin. 
 A van can be stuck in the FAB Shop for weeks, making sure that everything 
comes together correctly.  Then you have inspections along the way.  At the 
Braun factory, at critical steps of fabrication, a representative inspects the 
chassis to ensure that all is still well, before the van goes on to the next 
step.  Once the conversion process has taken place and passes inspection, 
painted and cleared, it goes back to upholstery shop and everything is put back 
in or reassembled.

  Now I've made this sound much easier than it really is and my point is that a 
company does not proceed to step 15 if Step 14 isn't completed, tested and 
passes inspection.

  Once a vehicle passes all test and inspections and released to dealer, it 
must be transported back to that dealer somewhere in the USA.  Some factories 
only ship once a month.  Others may ship once a week.
  And that truck load may travel a thousand miles before your van is received 
at the Mobility Dealer.  Once the Mobility Dealer receives it and checks 
everything out.  It is determine if any other adaptive equipment is needed and 
must be installed.  Now this takes additional time and will vary.  (AND WE ALL 
KNOW THAT TIME IS YOUR MINEY)

  OK, when a problem is discovered, it has to be determine if its an OEM 
problem or a Conversion problem.
  If its OEM then a OEM rep has to come out and verify the problem.  If its a 
conversion problem, the conversion company is contacted and arrangement are 
made for the Mobility Dealer to resolve/fix the problem and ch

Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [scilist] Re: Fwd: Fw: CMS Case Management Rules May Devasta...

[wheelchair]

 
In a message dated 7/28/2007 12:55:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I  think if we eliminate an institution, we should begin with "career"  
politicians. Parties should be fined according to the foul balls they help get  
elected. Can anyone read the declaration of independance and not get the urge  
to 
overthrow the mess in Washington?
 
john
 
ps.  Sorry, I got political  



John, I mentioned this over a year ago and was told "it would never  happen." 
Let's hope our Friend Tim the Stuntman, has a new twist to this old  story.
Hey Stuntman!
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Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [scilist] Re: Fwd: Fw: CMS Case Management Rules May Devastate MFP Possibilities

[John S.]

I think financial cutbacks are in the pipeline because of the tax cuts for all 
the poor rich folks and the ballooning of corporate welfare. I don't think an 
attack on MFP is imminent because it saves money. The fact is, if we all hired 
our own aides and paid for all the drugs that "PLAN D FROM OUTER SPACE" doesn't 
cover, the government would save tons of money as opposed to forcing people 
into nursing homes that cost a freakin fortune and are a primary souce of 
perscription drugs for people like rush limbaugh. 
I'm not saying close the nursing homes, there are too many folks dependant on 
them. I think if we eliminate an institution, we should begin with "career" 
politicians. Parties should be fined according to the foul balls they help get 
elected. Can anyone read the declaration of independance and not get the urge 
to overthrow the mess in Washington?

john

ps. Sorry, I got political  




- Original Message 
From: David K. Kelmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 10:24:16 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: [scilist] Re: Fwd: Fw: CMS Case Management Rules May 
Devastate MFP Possibilities


Hi Dana,
 
I agree with you.  It is another good reason that anyone receiving benefits 
from the Government, understand all of the rules of the Program(s) they are on.
 
With Love,
 
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post
Texas, USA 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This does not sound good for anyone receiving HCBC.
 
What is anybody else's take on this?
 
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Subject: Fw: CMS Case Management Rules May Devastate MFP Possibilities
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:52:26 -0500

Case management plays a vital role for many people moving out of nursing
homes, as well as many people with significant disabilities who may not have
informal supports. This action could result in harmful discrimination against
people with more significant disabilities.

- Original Message -
From: Bob Kafka
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 12:24 PM
Subject: CMS Case Management Rules May Devastate MFP Possibilities


Dear Community Services Supporters:

CMS has been developing new Case Management regulations over the last few
months in response to some of the changes in the Deficit Reduction Act.

Rumor has it they will be published as Interim Final Rules in the beginning of
August.

Word has been spreading, though nothing specific, that the new rules will
roll back all the progressive advances CMS allowed in Case Management and
Targeted Case Management that had been allowed for States to use to get folks
out of institutions since the Olmstead letters in 2000. In addition there
will be major changes in how Case Management will be paid for in HCBS
waivers.

If these rumors are accurate it appears CMS (maybe directed by OMB) will not
only be undercutting their own MFP initiative but also the whole New Freedom
Initiative and Olmstead initiatives.

What is ironic is that many in the community thought CMS was going to give
States more flexibility because getting and keeping folks out of institutions
needs intensive service coordination and Case Management and TCM are two ways
States can get help in paying for that service.

ACTION NEEDED:

1. Spread the word in your community that these rules are coming out and when
they are published we need a loud outcry from aging and disability advocates;
2. Contact your Medicaid Director and tell them you will support them in
their opposition to these new rules;
3. Contact Dennis Smith, HHS/CMS Medicaid Director by e-mailing his Executive
Assist
Florence Jackson at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Your Action is needed today and throughout next week!! PLS
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[QUAD-L] Re: [scilist] Re: Fwd: Fw: CMS Case Management Rules May Devastate MFP Possibilities

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Dana,
   
  I agree with you.  It is another good reason that anyone receiving benefits 
from the Government, understand all of the rules of the Program(s) they are on.
   
  With Love,
 
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post
  Texas, USA 


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__,_._,___ From: "ADAPT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "commchoice-list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fw: CMS Case Management Rules May Devastate MFP Possibilities
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:52:26 -0500

Case management plays a vital role for many people moving out of nursing
homes, as well as many people with significant disabilities who may not have
informal supports. This action could result in harmful discrimination against
people with more significant disabilities.

- Original Message -
From: Bob Kafka
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 12:24 PM
Subject: CMS Case Management Rules May Devastate MFP Possibilities


Dear Community Services Supporters:

CMS has been developing new Case Management regulations over the last few
months in response to some of the changes in the Deficit Reduction Act.

Rumor has it they will be published as Interim Final Rules in the beginning of
August.

Word has been spreading, though nothing specific, that the new rules will
roll back all the progressive advances CMS allowed in Case Management and
Targeted Case Management that had been allowed for States to use to get folks
out of institutions since the Olmstead letters in 2000. In addition there
will be major changes in how Case Management will be paid for in HCBS
waivers.

If these rumors are accurate it appears CMS (maybe directed by OMB) will not
only be undercutting their own MFP initiative but also the whole New Freedom
Initiative and Olmstead initiatives.

What is ironic is that many in the community thought CMS was going to give
States more flexibility because getting and keeping folks out of institutions
needs intensive service coordination and Case Management and TCM are two ways
States can get help in paying for that service.

ACTION NEEDED:

1. Spread the word in your community that these rules are coming out and when
they are published we need a loud outcry from aging and disability advocates;
2. Contact your Medicaid Director and tell them you will support them in
their opposition to these new rules;
3. Contact Dennis Smith, HHS/CMS Medicaid Director by e-mailing his Executive
Assist
Florence Jackson at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Your Action is needed today and throughout next week!! PLS
DISTRIBUTE

FOR AN INSTITUTION FREE AMERICA,

The ADAPT Community

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[QUAD-L] Re: Fwd: Fw: CMS Case Management Rules May Devastate MFP Possibilities

[DAANOO]

This does not sound good for anyone receiving HCBC.
 
What is anybody else's take on this?
 
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--- Begin Message ---
Case management plays a vital role for many people moving out of nursing
homes, as well as many people with significant disabilities who may not have
informal supports.  This action could result in harmful discrimination against
people with more significant disabilities.

- Original Message -
From: Bob Kafka
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 12:24 PM
Subject: CMS Case Management Rules May Devastate MFP Possibilities


Dear Community Services Supporters:

CMS has been developing new Case Management regulations over the last few
months in response to some of the changes in the Deficit Reduction Act.

Rumor has it they will be published as Interim Final Rules in the beginning of
August.

Word has been spreading,  though nothing specific, that the new rules will
roll back all the progressive advances CMS allowed in Case Management and
Targeted Case Management that had been allowed for States to use to get folks
out of institutions since the Olmstead letters in 2000.  In addition there
will be major changes in how Case Management will be paid for in HCBS
waivers.

If these rumors are accurate it appears CMS (maybe directed by OMB) will not
only be undercutting their own MFP initiative but also the whole New Freedom
Initiative and Olmstead initiatives.

What is ironic is that many in the community thought CMS was going to give
States more flexibility because getting and keeping folks out of institutions
needs intensive service coordination and Case Management and TCM are two ways
States can get help in paying for that service.

ACTION NEEDED:

1.  Spread the word in your community that these rules are coming out and when
they are published we need a loud outcry from aging and disability advocates;
2.  Contact your Medicaid Director and tell them you will support them in
their opposition to these new rules;
3.  Contact Dennis Smith, HHS/CMS Medicaid Director by e-mailing his Executive
Assist
Florence Jackson at   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Your Action is needed today and throughout next week!!  PLS
DISTRIBUTE

FOR AN INSTITUTION FREE AMERICA,

The ADAPT Community

NATIONAL ADAPT MAILING LIST - Adapt Community Choice Act List 
http://www.adapt.org
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RE: [QUAD-L] Re: The latest co-sponsors! Senator Obama, 1 each from KS, AK, TX, MD and WI

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Eric,
   
  It is quiet there, and may be on life-support, but it was not DOA!  lol
   
  With Love,
 
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post
  Texas, USA 
   
  

Eric W Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Ahh...never mind, I see the same reason I left DOA still.
   
   
  Eric W Rudd
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   

  -Original Message-
From: Eric W Rudd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:20 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: The latest co-sponsors! Senator Obama, 1 each from 
KS, AK, TX, MD and WI


  what is community choice act?
   
  & is DOA still active?
   
   
   
  Eric W Rudd
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   

  -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: The latest co-sponsors! Senator Obama, 1 each from KS, 
AK, TX, MD and WI


   




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[QUAD-L] Re: Fwd: NEW ADDRESS for ADAPT of TX

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As you may already know, ADAPT of TX had to move recently --

Here is the new address for us:

ADAPT of TX
1640A East 2nd ST Suite 100
Austin, TX 78702-4412

Phone is the same: 512/442-0252
Fax is the same: 512/442-0522

This is the address for the Fun Run, for Bob Kafka, for ADAPT, for 
everything you used to send to Lamar SQ DR! 


NATIONAL ADAPT MAILING LIST - Adapt Community Choice Act List 
http://www.adapt.org
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[QUAD-L] Re Fwd: Medicare Advantage Plans are not a 'Lifeline' for Medicare Beneficiaries

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INTRODUCTION

Congress has begun debating what to do about overpayments to the Medicare 
Advantage plans offered by private insurance companies under Medicare Part C.  
As a result, it is likely that scare tactics about what will happen to 
beneficiaries if funding is reduced to levels closer to the costs of 
traditional Medicare will increase as well. One such tactic is to insist that 
payment cuts would result in "the end of a lifeline" for beneficiaries.

Contrary to what private insurance companies tell their enrollees, the general 
public, and Members of Congress as part of these scare tactics, Medicare 
beneficiaries will not be left without any health care coverage if funding is 
cut for Medicare Advantage plans. All Medicare beneficiaries will still receive 
coverage under Medicare, without filing another application and without going 
through a waiting period for pre-existing conditions.  The traditional Medicare 
program never abandons beneficiaries.  It is the real "lifeline."

Congress included provisions in the Balanced Budget Act of 1997 (BBA) to help 
ensure that Medicare beneficiaries have a seamless transition in their health 
care coverage if private insurance plans decide to stop contracting with 
Medicare, regardless of the reason for this business decision. If a private 
insurance company decides to eliminate its Medicare Advantage plans as a result 
of possible changes to the Medicare Advantage funding structure, beneficiaries 
will be able to take advantage of these protections.

BBA PROTECTIONS

Medicare beneficiaries can return to traditional Medicare or choose another 
Medicare Advantage plan if their Medicare Advantage plan leaves Medicare.

 -- Coverage under a Medicare Advantage plan that is terminating its contract 
with Medicare continues until the end of the calendar year when the Medicare 
contract ends.
 -- The traditional Medicare program will continue to be available to all 
Medicare beneficiaries. 
 -- Beneficiaries who return to traditional Medicare can choose, and enroll 
in, a Medicare Part D prescription drug plan without paying a late penalty.
 -- Those who wish to purchase a Medigap policy have specific rights 
protecting their ability to do so.
 -- Beneficiaries will continue to receive services for pre-existing 
conditions without having to go through a waiting period.
 -- Beneficiaries, including those with End Stage Renal Disease (ESRD), may 
join another Medicare Advantage plan if another plan is offered in their region.

Medicare beneficiaries make their decision about how to receive their health 
and drug coverage during the next annual enrollment period, which runs from 
November 31- December 31.

 -- Beneficiaries are automatically returned to traditional Medicare unless 
they choose a different Medicare Advantage plan. They do not have to file a 
separate application for traditional Medicare.
 -- Beneficiaries who decide to enroll in a different Medicare Advantage plan 
must enroll by December 31. 
 -- Beneficiaries who decide to return to traditional Medicare and who want 
prescription drug coverage must choose, and enroll in, a Medicare Part D 
prescription drug plan by December 31.

Coverage under the new Medicare Advantage plan or in traditional Medicare and a 
prescription drug plan becomes effective January 1.
Medicare beneficiaries aged 65 and older may purchase a Medigap policy.

 -- Beneficiaries aged 65 and older whose Medicare Advantage plan terminated 
service are guaranteed issuance of Medigap Plans A, B, C or F.  
 -- Beneficiaries must purchase a Medigap policy within 63 days of the 
termination of their Medicare Advantage plan.
 -- Some states have additional provisions that give beneficiaries age 65 and 
older more choices of Medigap policies or that extend protections to Medicare 
beneficiaries younger than age 65.

CONCLUSION

Beneficiaries, their families and their advocates should not be fooled by cries 
that a reduction in overpayments to private insurance plans will leave older 
people and people with disabilities without any health care coverage.  The 
traditional Medicare program worked for decades without any interference from 
private insurance companies.  All Medicare beneficiaries enrolled in Medicare 
Advantage plans currently have this traditional, uniform, and stable Medicare 
program as a reliable option for coverage.  That might not be the case if 
Congress continues to pay Medicare Advantage plans more money, thereby 
hastening the projected insolvency of Medicare.

Congress needs to keep traditional Medicare, the real healthcare lifeline, 
strong.  End overpayments to private plans and increase reimbursements for 
health care providers under traditional Medicare to ensure uniform, nationally 
available coverage for our elders and people with disabilities.

For m

RE: [QUAD-L] Re: The latest co-sponsors! Senator Obama, 1 each from KS, AK, TX, MD and WI

[Eric W Rudd]

Ahh...never mind, I see the same reason I left DOA still.
 
 
Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-Original Message-
From: Eric W Rudd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:20 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: The latest co-sponsors! Senator Obama, 1 each from
KS, AK, TX, MD and WI


what is community choice act?
 
& is DOA still active?
 
 
 
Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: The latest co-sponsors! Senator Obama, 1 each from KS,
AK, TX, MD and WI



 




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RE: [QUAD-L] Re: The latest co-sponsors! Senator Obama, 1 each from KS, AK, TX, MD and WI

[Eric W Rudd]

what is community choice act?
 
& is DOA still active?
 
 
 
Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

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Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: The latest co-sponsors! Senator Obama, 1 each from KS,
AK, TX, MD and WI



 




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Here are the latest co-sponsors of the Community Choice Act (S.799 and HR 
1621) followed by all current co-sponsors by state.  All through the month 
of August they will all be back in their home districts meeting with 
constituents (you) and holding town hall meetings and the like.  Now is the 
time to thank those who have signed on and urge those who have not signed on 
so far to do so!


NEW CO-SPONSORS

Sen Obama, Barack [IL] - 7/23/2007


Rep Boyda, Nancy E. [KS-2] - 7/10/2007
Rep Moore, Gwen [WI-4] - 7/12/2007
Rep Young, Don [AK] - 7/23/2007
Rep Wynn, Albert Russell [MD-4] - 7/23/2007
Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] - 7/23/2007




COSPONSORS BY STATE


Rep Young, Don [AK] - 7/23/2007

Rep Bonner, Jo [AL-1] - 6/14/2007

Sen Salazar, Ken [CO] - 3/7/2007

Rep DeGette, Diana [CO-1] - 3/29/2007
Rep Udall, Mark [CO-2] - 6/14/2007

Sen Lieberman, Joseph I. [CT] - 3/7/2007
Sen Dodd, Christopher J. [CT] - 3/7/2007
Rep Courtney, Joe [CT-2] - 5/14/2007
Rep Murphy, Christopher S. [CT-5] - 5/14/2007
Rep Larson, John B. [CT-1] - 5/14/2007
Rep DeLauro, Rosa L. [CT-3] - 6/14/2007

Sen Biden, Joseph R., Jr. [DE] - 3/7/2007

Sen Inouye, Daniel K. [HI] - 3/7/2007

Sponsor: Sen Harkin, Tom [IA]

Sen Durbin, Richard [IL] - 4/12/2007
Sen Obama, Barack [IL] - 7/23/2007
Rep Davis, Danny K. [IL-7]
Rep Shimkus, John [IL-19] - 3/21/2007
Rep Gutierrez, Luis V. [IL-4] - 6/14/2007
Rep Weller, Jerry [IL-11] - 5/14/2007
Rep Schakowsky, Janice D. [IL-9] - 5/14/2007

Rep Visclosky, Peter J. [IN-1] - 3/29/2007

Rep Boyda, Nancy E. [KS-2] - 7/10/2007


Sen Kennedy, Edward M. [MA] - 3/7/2007


Rep Wynn, Albert Russell [MD-4] - 7/23/2007


Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. [NJ] - 5/17/2007
Rep Smith, Christopher H. [NJ-4] - 5/14/2007
Rep Payne, Donald M. [NJ-10] - 5/14/2007

Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham [NY] - 3/7/2007
Sen Schumer, Charles E. [NY] - 3/7/2007
Rep Walsh, James T. [NY-25] - 5/14/2007

Sen Brown, Sherrod [OH] - 5/17/2007

Sen Specter, Arlen [PA] - 3/7/2007
Sen Casey, Robert P., Jr. [PA] - 4/12/2007

Rep Cohen, Steve [TN-9] - 5/14/2007

Rep Doggett, Lloyd [TX-25] - 6/14/2007
Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] - 7/23/2007

Rep Bishop, Rob [UT-1] - 6/14/2007

Sen Sanders, Bernard [VT] - 6/13/2007

Rep Moore, Gwen [WI-4] - 7/12/2007

NATIONAL ADAPT MAILING LIST - Adapt Community Choice Act List 
http://www.adapt.org
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Re: [QUAD-L] RE: From my Redman wheelchair dealer

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Jim,
   
   
  I've never tried either Redman or Levo, so I can't offer an opinion on any of 
their product.  I'm sorry.  Good luck finding what works best for your needs.   
Stay strong.
   
   
  With Love,
 
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post
  Texas, USA 


Quadskydiver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  How does this reply sound?
Thanks for your replies, I just forwarded your complaints to my DME 
Supplier that is trying to sell me this new Redman. Hopefully he will be 
able to help both of you with your problems. Since they want to sell me and 
many others on their new chair. I pray that this will be enough incentive to 
get Redman to do what is right. I really appreciate your feedback, even 
though it wasn't what I was hoping to hear. But the TRUTH hurts unless it 
comes from the big book, and your on the right side. Does anyone have any 
good reports?
Fortunately out of all the members you 2 are the only one's that 
have replied with bad, but nobody has replied with good. This really leaves 
me in a mess because, for the last 10 years the standing Levo I have been 
using. Is not covered by medicare and the Permobil doesn't give me good 
preassure relief. To get off the Sciatic nerve damaged by a Permobil in 
2000. Standing also enables me to be much more independent. Such as being 
able to reach upper cabinets, thermostat, bulletin boards on wall, plus it 
really helps a lot with getting bowel movements more regular, and my legs 
are still extremely muscular to enable me to walk when my miracle is 
manifested. He brought the new Redman yesterday and my friend is a genius at 
fixing anything. He is the only reason this old Levo can even still work. 
His opinion was that the new Redman is built much better than the old Levo. 
Which he has had completely apart numerous times for repairs. Does anybody 
know of a better option?

Glory to GOD & Sincerely, Jim Rice C-5&6 
10 yrs. post
""I have a dream that one day soon, all people with physical challenges will 
be treated equally. I will not let things I am not able to do yet, Stop what 
the LORD & I can. !!!"

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: "Quadskydiver" 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:19 AM
Subject: RE: Fw: [QUAD-L] Redman wheelchair opinions please


> Jim, Redman doesn't sell manual wheelchairs and never has. The
> wheelchair you saw and what that lady saw where different chairs. but i
> swear to you, this will not happen to you. the main difference is the
> redman chair would come through Medical Specialty. So in your case, you
> would deal with me, not redman. i know how important this decision is
> and i will do whatever i can for you. I really believe in this Redman
> power wheelchair. But i will not put you or ME in a decision that i
> will regret later. if this has you scared, then we need to figure
> something else out. But, as i said, i really believe in this
> wheelchair. let me know. josh
>
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Fw: [QUAD-L] Redman wheelchair opinions please
>> From: "Quadskydiver" 
>> Date: Fri, July 20, 2007 5:46 pm
>> To: "Josh Berglan" 
>>
>> Here are a couple replies,
>> This sure doesn't sound good. Since you are a new dealer for
>> Redman I thought you might want to check this out. I pray this
>> could work out in all four parties favor if you were able to
>> help this lady get her refund. Medical Specialty could get
>> some great publicity, along with Redman.
>> If you were able to help Michelle get at least part of the
>> refund she is talking about. And possibly help Dave get his
>> chair repaired. It would probably help get a good word out
>> about your company and Redman. We are members of a worldwide
>> Quad-list that have many members looking for a reputable DME
>> Supplier.
>> That would be before adding me to the list of satisfied
>> customers. I am always looking for WIN, WIN situations for
>> everyone. Before moving to Tulsa I was Director of public
>> relations for the Oklahoma Spinal Cord Injury Association in
>> OKC, and I am still a member there also.
>> Glory to GOD & Sincerely, Jim Rice
>> ""I have a dream that one day soon, all people with physical
>> challenges will be treated equally. I will not let things I am not
>> able to do yet, Stop what the LORD & I can. !!!" CONFIDENTIALITY
>> NOTICE: This message transmission is intended only for the use of the
>> individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain
>> information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from
>> disclosure under applicable law.
>> If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified
>> that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this
>> transmittal or the information it contains is strictly
>> prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error.
>> Please immediately notify the sender and destroy the original
>> transmission and its attachments.
>> Incorrect delivery of this transmittal does not constitute
>> waiver of any applicable privilege. If

[QUAD-L] RE: From my Redman wheelchair dealer

[Quadskydiver]

How does this reply sound?
 Thanks for your replies, I just forwarded your complaints to my DME 
Supplier that is trying to sell me this new Redman. Hopefully he will be 
able to help both of you with your problems. Since they want to sell me and 
many others on their new chair. I pray that this will be enough incentive to 
get Redman to do what is right. I really appreciate your feedback, even 
though it wasn't what I was hoping to hear. But the TRUTH hurts unless it 
comes from the big book, and your on the right side. Does anyone have any 
good reports?
   Fortunately out of all the members you 2 are the only one's that 
have replied with bad, but nobody has replied with good. This really leaves 
me in a mess because, for the last 10 years the standing Levo I have been 
using. Is not covered by medicare and the Permobil doesn't give me good 
preassure relief. To get off the Sciatic nerve damaged by a Permobil in 
2000. Standing also enables me to be much more independent. Such as being 
able to reach upper cabinets, thermostat, bulletin boards on wall, plus it 
really helps a lot with getting bowel movements more regular, and my legs 
are still extremely muscular to enable me to walk when my miracle is 
manifested. He brought the new Redman yesterday and my friend is a genius at 
fixing anything. He is the only reason this old Levo can even still work. 
His opinion was that the new Redman is built much better than the old Levo. 
Which he has had completely apart numerous times for repairs. Does anybody 
know of a better option?

   Glory to GOD & Sincerely,  Jim Rice C-5&6 
10 yrs. post
""I have a dream that one day soon, all people with physical challenges will 
be treated equally. I will not let things I am not able to do yet, Stop what 
the LORD & I can. !!!"


- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Quadskydiver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:19 AM
Subject: RE: Fw: [QUAD-L] Redman wheelchair opinions please



Jim, Redman doesn't sell manual wheelchairs and never has.  The
wheelchair you saw and what that lady saw where different chairs.  but i
swear to you, this will not happen to you.  the main difference is the
redman chair would come through Medical Specialty.  So in your case, you
would deal with me, not redman.  i know how important this decision is
and i will do whatever i can for you.  I really believe in this Redman
power wheelchair.  But i will not put you or ME in a decision that i
will regret later.  if this has you scared, then we need to figure
something else out.  But, as i said, i really believe in this
wheelchair.  let me know.  josh


 Original Message 
Subject: Fw: [QUAD-L] Redman wheelchair opinions please
From: "Quadskydiver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, July 20, 2007 5:46 pm
To: "Josh Berglan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Here are a couple replies,
This sure doesn't sound good. Since you are a new dealer for
Redman I thought you might want to check this out. I pray this
could work out in all four parties favor if you were able to
help this lady get her refund. Medical Specialty could get
some great publicity, along with Redman.
If you were able to help Michelle get at least part of the
refund she is talking about. And possibly help Dave get his
chair repaired. It would probably help get a good word out
about your company and Redman. We are members of a worldwide
Quad-list that have many members looking for a reputable DME
Supplier.
That would be before adding me to the list of satisfied
customers. I am always looking for WIN, WIN situations for
everyone. Before moving to Tulsa I was Director of public
relations for the Oklahoma Spinal Cord Injury Association in
OKC, and I am still a member there also.
  Glory to GOD & Sincerely,  Jim Rice
""I have a dream that one day soon, all people with physical
challenges will be treated equally. I will not let things I am not
able to do yet, Stop what the LORD & I can. !!!"   CONFIDENTIALITY
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disclosure under applicable law.
   If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified
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transmittal or the information it contains is strictly
prohibited.  If you have received this transmission in error.
Please immediately notify the sender and destroy the original
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[QUAD-L] Re: Fwd: Senate helps kids. Bush opposes.

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Dear Dana,

The Senate Finance Committee, in an unusual display of unity
across party lines, overwhelmingly approved legislation
yesterday to provide health care to 4 million American children
who would otherwise be left without it. 

In response, President George Bush declared he would veto the
bill. 

Please call 1-800-828-0498 or email your Senators and
Representative and urge them to oppose the President and pass a
children's health bill that protects America's kids.
[http://www.familiesusa.org/resources/action-center/]

The President's threat has even startled Republican Senate
leaders Chuck Grassley and Orrin Hatch who earlier called it,
"disappointing, even a little unbelievable." (7/12/07)

Unfortunately, the other group who stands to be disappointed by
this Presidential threat is the 4 million American children
whose healthy development depend on the regular check-ups and
care the President's veto will deny them. 

The bill approved today by the Senate Committee provides $35
billion in new money for children's health. This falls short of
the amount promised in the Congressional budget and still leaves
way too many children without coverage. 

Still, for the mothers and fathers of 4 million American
children this bill quite literally represents the answer to
their prayers. 

That's why the full Senate must pass the Committee's proposal. 

And there's reason for optimism that the House of
Representatives will improve on the children's health bill when
they take up the issue in the next week or so.

Please call 1-800-828-0498 or email your Senators and House
Representative and urge them to oppose the President and pass a
children's health bill that protects the health of America's
children. [http://www.familiesusa.org/resources/action-center/]

Thank you,
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[QUAD-L] Re: Fwd: Finance Committee Set for Community Choice ACT!

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Success!

The Senate Finance Committee  Hearing is set for the Community Choice Act 
and other Long Term Service and Support Proposal!


It will be September 25th, 2007 at 10am

Don't forget to call now to get your appointments to get Senators and 
Representatives to sign on as co-sponsors!  They will all be back at home 
for the month of August!


Don't Mourn.  ORGANIZE!

NATIONAL ADAPT MAILING LIST - Adapt Community Choice Act List 
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[QUAD-L] Re: Fwd: Bush's third term?

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And the winner of the Climate
Virtual Town Hall is...
Last week, we held the
first-ever forum with
presidential candidates devoted
entirely to the climate crisis.
Here are how members ranked the
candidates' plans: (remember,
this does not imply a MoveOn
endorsement):

Sen. John Edwards--33.10%
Rep. Dennis Kucinich--15.73%
Sen. Hillary Clinton--15.71%
Sen. Barack Obama--15.03%
Gov. Bill Richardson--12.60%
Sen. Joe Biden--3.06%
Sen. Chris Dodd--3.01%
Sen. Mike Gravel--1.78%

Dear MoveOn member,

What would a third Bush term look like? Endless war in Iraq, continued
torture and spying, more ultra-conservative judges, more and more people
without health care, and so on ... it'd be awful.

But that's impossible, right? Well, maybe not. Every Republican candidate
for president is trying to distinguish himself from Bush, but the major
candidates would carry forward Bush's core agenda:

  * President Giuliani would support a second escalation of the war in
Iraq.1
  * President Romney would double the size of the Guantanamo Bay prison.2
  * President McCain would bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.3
  * President Fred Thompson would have offered Scooter Libby a full
pardon.4

We can make sure the Bush era ends in 2008. But it means starting now, not
next year: building strength in key neighborhoods, creating cutting-edge
tools for volunteers, and designing the most sophisticated voter turnout
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We need to start ASAP, but we can only afford it if 1,500 folks sign up to
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The earliest we would hold a vote to endorse a candidate is the fall. So,
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planning for the general election, it will be too late. Starting early
will give us a critical leg up by allowing us to:

  * Advance progressive issues in the presidential primaries;
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  * Find neighborhood leaders to form the backbone of a massive voter
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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/15/giuliani-escalation/

2. "Romney: 'We Ought To Double Guantanamo'," Think Progress, May 16, 2007
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/16/romney-guantanamo/

3. "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran," YouTube, April 19, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg

4. "Thompson reacts to Libby clemency," Think Progress, July 2, 2007
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[QUAD-L] Re: Fwd: Bush to Kids: Drop Dead

[DAANOO]

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Dear Dana,

Shocking even the staunchest Republicans in the Senate,
President Bush has threatened to veto a bipartisan bill to
provide health care to millions of American children who
desperately need it. 

Even more surprising was his advice to the 9 million uninsured
children and 36 million uninsured adults should they ever have
the misfortune of getting sick while he's still President: Go to
the emergency room.

"I mean, people have access to health care in America. After
all, you just go to an emergency room." - President George W.
Bush (Cleveland, 7/10/07)

Senator Charles Grassley, Republican leader of the Finance
Committee, and Senator Orrin Hatch, Republican leader of the
Subcommittee on Health, couldn't believe the President's veto
threat and issued the following rebuke to the leader of their
Party. 

"Its disappointing, even a little unbelievable, to hear talk
about Administration officials wanting a veto of a legislative
proposal they haven't even seen yet - because it isn't even
finalized yet. The President ought to give Congress a chance to
offer a proposal first. As Republican leaders on the committee
of jurisdiction, we've been working day and night to reach an
agreement on children's health insurance legislation because it
is imperative that this important program, which has helped so
many children, be continued."

In a move that would snatch access to medicine out of the hands
of children who currently have it, President Bush is pushing to
reduce funding for children's health to only 10% of the amount
that Congress budgeted earlier this year.

Call 1-800-828-0498 or click here to send an email to Congress:
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Please urge your Senators and Representative to oppose President
Bush's war on children and support full funding for Children's
Health. 

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Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [TMIC] To the ten who received the POEM email. OT,OT,OT

[DAANOO]

I don't think I know either one of you.  Tell me about yourself.   I would 
like to get to know you if you don't mind!
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[QUAD-L] Re: [TMIC] To the ten who received the POEM email. OT,OT,OT

[C Child]

Jude

I feel the same way. Some of the material is good, but I'm not going to forward 
it, If I die I die. Thanks for the post.

Cullen
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:23 PM
  Subject: [TMIC] To the ten who received the POEM email. OT,OT,OT


  I am sorry for sending you email such as I did.  It's just that I feel like I 
am being blackmailed into doing so, because it states that so many persons died 
after not doing so (sending it to 10 people, that is).

  Please, anyone who reads this...Do Not send me emails that direct me to send 
it to so many people or I will have bad luck for the rest of my life.

  I will delete almost all OT email, unless I can tell from the caption what it 
is about.  It is a waste of your time...I don't even have 10 friends to forward 
things to.

  I love you all and am thankful for those of you who can stand me and all of 
my quirks and foibles.

  Jude


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Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Putting the blame on anything and everything...

[John S.]

There are many plants beside corn that could provide the starch for the beer to 
make ethanol, however, our politicians, in a burst of stupidity decided only to 
subsidize ethanol made with corn. They refuse to eliminate price supports for 
sugar growers and are doing all they can to ruin any attempt to ween America 
off oil. This is not a republican or democrat issue. Its an issue of who gives 
more money to political parties. If the old saying, "fool me once, shame on 
you. Fool me twice, shame on me." holds true, America is becoming a nation held 
hostage by its own corporate success.

john


- Original Message 
From: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Eric W Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 2:10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Putting the blame on anything and everything...


Corn does not make up a large part of a dairy cows diet and can easily be 
replaced by any other starchy foods. 
The fact that fuel ethanol must be made from corn and sugar will eventually 
cause some problems with corn and sugar prices. 
The reason milk costs so much is because of massive mismanagement of the 
agriculture department. I don't think they will even try to deny it. In 1987 it 
cost a dairy farmer 12.02 cents to produce 12.00 worth of milk. This caused a 
huge number of dairy farms to go under. In the 90's they started using BGH 
(Bovine Growth Hormone) at all the big dairy farms and it causes cows to 
produce immense amounts of milk but there's a minor drawback, it also causes 
mastitis. (can you say "Got puss") Tons of antibiotics wiped out mom and pop 
that had tried to keep up in dairy farms. Those that could sold dairy cows for 
beef. Now 90 some percent of farms are corporate owned and cows are not being 
replaced at the rate they die off or retire from milking. Can you say, "price 
increase". 
The easy way to deal with it is to stop drinking milk from the wrong animals 
tit. Or buy a cow. For $3.00 a gallon I can goats milk. 
Your all welcome to blame whoever you like, but those of you in the midwest 
already know that most big farms are owned by corporate america and the small 
farmer is about gone.
 
john 


- Original Message 
From: Eric W Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 12:53:34 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: Putting the blame on anything and everything...


The higher milk cost is due to the higher demand put forth by ethanol, which is 
made from corn, which is used by cows.
 
Locally, our Hucks station has the cheapest price for milk.  LOL
 
 
Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
-Original Message-
From: Bill_J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 8:41 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: Putting the blame on anything and everything...


Posted for Lori.





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Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Putting the blame on anything and everything...

[John S.]

Corn does not make up a large part of a dairy cows diet and can easily be 
replaced by any other starchy foods. 
The fact that fuel ethanol must be made from corn and sugar will eventually 
cause some problems with corn and sugar prices. 
The reason milk costs so much is because of massive mismanagement of the 
agriculture department. I don't think they will even try to deny it. In 1987 it 
cost a dairy farmer 12.02 cents to produce 12.00 worth of milk. This caused a 
huge number of dairy farms to go under. In the 90's they started using BGH 
(Bovine Growth Hormone) at all the big dairy farms and it causes cows to 
produce immense amounts of milk but there's a minor drawback, it also causes 
mastitis. (can you say "Got puss") Tons of antibiotics wiped out mom and pop 
that had tried to keep up in dairy farms. Those that could sold dairy cows for 
beef. Now 90 some percent of farms are corporate owned and cows are not being 
replaced at the rate they die off or retire from milking. Can you say, "price 
increase". 
The easy way to deal with it is to stop drinking milk from the wrong animals 
tit. Or buy a cow. For $3.00 a gallon I can goats milk. 
Your all welcome to blame whoever you like, but those of you in the midwest 
already know that most big farms are owned by corporate america and the small 
farmer is about gone.

john 


- Original Message 
From: Eric W Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 12:53:34 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: Putting the blame on anything and everything...


The higher milk cost is due to the higher demand put forth by ethanol, which is 
made from corn, which is used by cows.
 
Locally, our Hucks station has the cheapest price for milk.  LOL
 
 
Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
-Original Message-
From: Bill_J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 8:41 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: Putting the blame on anything and everything...


Posted for Lori.


   

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RE: [QUAD-L] Re: Putting the blame on anything and everything...

[Eric W Rudd]

The higher milk cost is due to the higher demand put forth by ethanol, which
is made from corn, which is used by cows.
 
Locally, our Hucks station has the cheapest price for milk.  LOL
 
 
Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-Original Message-
From: Bill_J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 8:41 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: Putting the blame on anything and everything...


Posted for Lori.

[QUAD-L] Re: Putting the blame on anything and everything...

[Bill_J]

Posted for Lori.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lori Michaelson 
  To: Bill_J ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 7:26 PM
  Subject: Putting the blame on anything and everything...


   My husband went to pick up milk last night and it was $5.50 a gallon!  That 
is over twice the amount that usually is! The lady at the checkout told him 
that it was because of the corn (you know... the food the cows need) .

My husband began to tell her that no, it is not the corn, it is just 
because you CAN charge what you are charging just like all the gasoline 
stations.  There is no oil shortage anywhere and our deficit has nothing to do 
with that either!

Everyone loves to point the finger and play the blame game.  Of course 
their fingers never get pointed towards themselves God forbid!

Bill or W  please post this to the list for others.  One day I will 
get this Comcast thing taken care of.  In the meantime... be the good guys and 
do me a favor. :-)

Lori
C4/5 complete, 27 years post
Tucson, Arizona

---Original Message---

From: Bill_J
Date: 7/14/2007 7:18:26 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] VR & BSCI

Why are you blaming the war for cutting services to Medicare/Medicaid, 
Voc Rehab, etc.?  The programs are not affected by the defense budget.

Bill age 56
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Leesburg, FL
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good 
with ketchup.
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] VR & BSCI


In a message dated 7/13/2007 6:52:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Glad I'm not the only one.

Dave & Lori Michaelson wrote:
> The county, state and federal government programs are there to help 
> you!  NOT!!!  Ain't it great?

Consider it your donation to the war effort.  That's where all your 
money is going these
days and for years to come.
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[QUAD-L] Re: JULY 10th Hearing in DC -- Come if you Can!

[DAANOO]

Tuesday  July 10th the Senate HELP Committee will hold a hearing on   
Community
Services and Supports: Planning Across the  Generations

Testimony will include information about the Community Choice  Act, as well as
CLASS Act and related issues.
Our Nashville Testimony DVD  has been distributed to committee members.  It
would be very helpful for  folks in the area to turn out, show interest from
the community and learn  what testimony is give and what the Senators have to
say.
Wear your orange  ADAPT shirt if you have one!

The hearing will be in Senate Dirksen Blg  Room 106   10:00 to 11:30 AM

Let's keep the momentum going for  Our Homes, Not Nursing Homes!

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[QUAD-L] Re: New on the Web

[DAANOO]

 (http://www.familiesusa.org/) 
Dear Dana, 
We've collected information on several new reports and  other resources 
available online that we hope you'll find  interesting and useful. Descriptions 
and 
links appear below.  You can also _view these resources on our Web site_ 
(http://familiesusa.org/resources/tools-for-advocates/new-on-web/new-on-the-web-37.
html) .   
SCHIP (State Children's Health Insurance  Program) 
In considering the pending reauthorization of the State  Children's Health 
Insurance Program (SCHIP), some have  recommended that Congress use federal 
funds to subsidize the  purchase of private health insurance rather than to 
expand 
 public health programs such as Medicaid or SCHIP. _Comparing Public and 
Private Health Insurance  for Children_ (http://www.cbpp.org/5-11-07health.htm) 
 
provides evidence that public health  coverage is less expensive than private 
insurance and provides  comparable, and in some cases better, access to health 
care  for children. (Center on Budget and Policy Priorities) 
A proposal under consideration in Congress would help  finance an expansion 
of children's health coverage by reducing  the overpayments to private health 
insurance companies that  participate in Medicare. Insurance companies are 
waging an  aggressive campaign to defend these overpayments, arguing that  
low-income and minority beneficiaries rely disproportionately  on the private 
health 
plans in Medicare and that the  overpayments are used to provide extra 
benefits not available  through regular Medicare. _Curbing Medicare 
Overpayments to 
Private  Insurers Could Benefit Minorities and Help Expand Children's  Health 
Coverage_ (http://www.cbpp.org/5-10-07health.htm)  argues that just the 
opposite may  be true. (Center on Budget and Policy Priorities) 
_Resources on Children and Family Health  Coverage_ 
(http://www.kff.org/medicaid/kcmu051607pkg.cfm)  provides the information 
released in a  policy 
briefing on state coverage trends for children and  families. These policy 
reports 
include: 
*   "Enrolling Children in Medicaid and SCHIP: Insights from  Focus 
Groups with Low-Income Parents"  
*   "SCHIP Turns 10: An Update on Enrollment and the Outlook  on 
Reauthorization from the Program's Directors"   
*   "Family Coverage under SCHIP Waivers"  
*   "Health Insurance Coverage and Access to Care for  Low-Income 
Non-Citizen Children" 
(Kaiser Commission on  Medicaid and the Uninsured)
Medicare  
The Medicare prescription drug program has improved  access to needed 
medications for millions of Americans.  However, an estimated 3.3 million of 
the 13.2 
million  beneficiaries eligible for the low-income subsidy are not  receiving 
that help. _Improving the Medicare Part D Program for the  Most Vulnerable 
Beneficiaries_ 
(http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/publications_show.htm?doc_id=484282&#doc484282)
  argues that  administrators must find better 
ways to reach out to these  beneficiaries, simplify the enrollment process, and 
provide  hands-on assistance in navigating that process.   (Commonwealth Fund) 
In the United States, nearly 7 million people under  the age of 65 qualify 
for Medicare due to severe and permanent  disabilities. However, these 
individuals must wait two years  after they are deemed eligible for Social 
Security 
Disability  Insurance (SSDI) to receive this coverage. _Too Sick to Work, Too 
Soon for Medicare: The  Human Cost of the Two-Year Medicare Waiting Period for  
Americans with Disabilities_ 
(http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/publications_show.htm?doc_id=473514)
  examines the  detrimental effects of this 
waiting period through the stories  of 21 individuals. (Commonwealth Fund)  
Nearly 8.3 million of the 43 million Americans with  Medicare receive their 
medical care through private insurance  companies, also called Medicare 
Advantage (MA) plans. _Too Good to Be True: The Fine Print in Medicare  Private 
Health Plan Benefits_ (http://www.medicarerights.org/MA_care_problems.pdf)  
examines the  effectiveness of these plans and concludes that private plans  
often 
fail to deliver coverage that a patient could obtain  from original Medicare. 
(Medicare Rights Center) 
Cultural divide  
_Resident Physicians' Preparedness to Provide  Cross-Cultural Care: 
Implications for Clinical Care and  Medical Education Policy_ 
(http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/publications_show.htm?doc_id=480864)
  reports that few 
residents  in a national study felt unprepared to care for patients from  
racial 
and ethnic minority groups and from diverse cultures.  Far more residents, 
however, felt unprepared to care for  patients with specific cultural 
characteristics, including  those who mistrust the U.S. health care system or 
who have  
health beliefs or practices that are at odds with Western  medicine. This gap 
indicates shortcomings in graduate medical  education that need to be 
addressed. (Commonweal

[QUAD-L] Re: ADAPT Fax Alert: Community Choice Act NOW! Your help needed...

[DAANOO]

Help  us make sure Congress lives up to their promises to hold hearings on  
the
Community Choice Act.  The heads of the appropriate committees have  committed
to holding hearings, but the hearings have not been scheduled  yet.  Let them
know that folks across the nation are waiting, have been  waiting for 10 
years,
and we are eagerly looking for the date to be set  soon.

- Original Message -
From: Bruce Darling
To: ADAPT ;  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Bob
Cc: Bruce Darling
Sent: Tuesday, July  03, 2007 3:46 PM
Subject: ADAPT Fax Alert: Community Choice Act  NOW!


The Community Choice Act would establish community-based  services in all
states across the US, reforming Medicaid and ending the  institutional bias
that forces hundreds of thousands of people with  disabilities in nursing
facilities and other institutions.
Despite the  Supreme Court's Olmstead decision, which affirmed that people  
with
disabilities have a right to live in the community, the Senate and House  of
Representatives have yet to have hearings on the Community Choice  Act.

When ADAPT was in Washington, DC, in early May, Senator Max Baucus  gave his
commitment that the Senate Finance Committee would hold a hearing on  the
Community Choice Act in late July.  So far, nothing has been  scheduled!

Advocates from across the country are faxing Senator Baucus to  thank him for
his commitment and asking for the hearing to be  scheduled.  You can fax the
Senator from the internet by going to this  link:
http://capwiz.com/rochestercdr/issues/alert/?alertid=9958786&type=CU&show_ale
rt=1

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Re: [QUAD-L] Re: I am receiving no quad post!

[John S.]

I think its a summer thing. I know I've been sleeping a lot. It is sort of 
twilight zonish when the list gets quiet.

john
 


- Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2007 8:17:36 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: I am receiving no quad post!


Hi Dana...
 
I have recieved posts just yesterday. 14 in all dated 6/30/2007. I would 
subscribe again and see if that helps.
 
BTW, you were my first email of the day from the quad-list. So, it hasn't been 
busy.
 
Keith/C4-5/NJ
 
In a message dated 7/1/2007 6:10:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DAANOO writes:
Is anybody else getting any quad posts? I have not received any for a number of 
days.
Just wondering.
 
Dana
 






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Re: [QUAD-L] Re: I am receiving no quad post!

[John S.]

Can you read this, Dan?


john


- Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2007 6:09:21 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: I am receiving no quad post!


Is anybody else getting any quad posts? I have not received any for a number of 
days.
Just wondering.
 
Dana






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[SCIQuad96]

 
Hi Dana...
 
I have recieved posts just yesterday. 14 in all dated 6/30/2007. I  would 
subscribe again and see if that helps.
 
BTW, you were my first email of the day from the quad-list. So, it hasn't  
been busy.
 
Keith/C4-5/NJ
 
In a message dated 7/1/2007 6:10:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DAANOO  writes:

Is anybody else getting any quad posts? I have not received any for a  number 
of days.
Just wondering.
 
Dana



 



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[QUAD-L] Re: I am receiving no quad post!

[DAANOO]

Is anybody else getting any quad posts? I have not received any for a  number 
of days.
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[QUAD-L] Re: Fwd: See Sicko this weekend

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| Here's where Sicko is   |
| playing near you this   |
| weekend:|
| |
| Cinemark Palace at the Plaza   |
| 500 Nichols Road Kansas City, MO  |
| Phone: (816)756-5833|
|

Friday: (12:45 PM), (2:15 PM), (3:45 PM), (5:10 PM), 6:45 PM, 8:00 PM, 9:45 PM  
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Saturday: (12:45 PM), (2:15 PM), (3:45 PM), (5:10 PM), 6:45 PM, 8:00 PM, 9:45 
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Sunday: (12:45 PM), (2:15 PM), (3:45 PM), (5:10 PM), 6:45 PM, 8:00 PM, 9:45 PM  
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Dear MoveOn member,

Coming to a theater near you this weekend! A summer blockbuster
about...health care?

Michael Moore's new movie, Sicko, could put health care at the top of the
nation's political agenda--and we can help. If opening weekend is a
success, lots more people will go see Sicko. It's a great movie--poignant
at times, funny at others.

Can you pledge to see Sicko this weekend and bring your friends and family
along? The theater and showtimes near you are in the box on the right.
Click here to watch the movie trailer and sign up:

http://pol.moveon.org/sickopledge/?id=10633-8044979-PB2iIE&t=2

We'll report to the media the number of people who pledge to attend.

When you go see Sicko, you'll hear true stories like these:

  * A middle-class couple with insurance move into their daughter's
basement after cancer forces them into bankruptcy.
  * An American woman goes undercover in Canada in search of prescription
drugs for her illness.
  * Richard Nixon's secret White House tapes reveal he decided to
authorize the first HMOs because "the less care they give them, the
more money they make."
  * A doctor employed by an insurance company testifies before Congress
about letting a man die to save her company money--then getting a
promotion.

Like most of Michael Moore's movies, this one has a point of view. It's an
argument to change our failing health care system. And it comes just in
time.

The next president will have to take on health care. Several 2008
candidates--John Edwards, Dennis Kucinich, and Barack Obama--have plans to
guarantee affordable health care for everyone with a public insurance
option. These are the most forward-thinking proposals ever seen in a
presidential race.
But the HMOs, big health insurers, and drug companies are busy trying to
buy off White House hopefuls with lots of campaign cash. They want to keep
making billions by denying Americans affordable health care.

So after the movie, we'll ask presidential candidates to promise not to
take campaign money from any of the industry's PACs, lobbyists, or
executives. And to turn up the heat, we'll pass out fliers to movie-goers
encouraging them to call up their favorite candidate.

Not one more person should suffer or die because our leaders won't stand
up to the companies at the root of our health care problems.

Please pledge to see Sicko this weekend--a fun way to fight for affordable
health care for everyone. The theater and showtimes are below. Just click
here:

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This weekend, Sicko is playing near you at:

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500 Nichols Road Kansas City, MO
Phone: (816)756-5833

Friday: (12:45 PM), (2:15 PM), (3:45 PM), (5:10 PM), 6:45 PM, 8:00 PM, 9:45 PM

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And if you can, pass out fliers after the movie to keep the health care
industry's money out of the next White House, so we can win affordable
health care for everyone. The fliers are co-sponsored by our friends at
the Campaign for America's Future and Public Campaign Action Fund.

Thank you for all you do.

--Noah, Wes, Karin, Laura, and the MoveOn.org Political Action Team
  Thursday, June 28th, 2007

P.S. Are you a nurse? Sicko's your movie. The California Nurses
Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee and 25 activist nurse
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movie-goers into health care activists. Click here to find out how you can
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Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag Cleanser Ostomy & Urostomy appliance cleaner by ReliaMaed

[Bill_J]

I get my ostomy supplies from Liberty Medical.  They bill Medicare & Medicaid.  
I buy my chux, etc. from www.medsupplyco.com and www.qualitymedical.com 

Bill age 56
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Leesburg, FL
Welcome To Shit Creek ~ Sorry, We're Out of Paddles!
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:58 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag Cleanser Ostomy & Urostomy appliance cleaner by 
ReliaMaed


  Hi Nancy,

  The only reason I purchased was because my insurance covered after my co-pay 
was paid , which I was extremely surprised that they would.  I get all my 
ostomy supplies from Edgepark medical supply.  They send supplies every three 
months, so that is convenient as you don't have to remember to order.  I get 
all my chux at express medical as they seem to be a good price.  Where does 
everybody else get their supplies?
  Where does everybody get their tubing? I used to extend my bedbag for my 
night bag and day bag, for the ends of my pencils I use on my splints and to 
connect long straws together to reach my mouth from my 2 gallon jug I use at 
night and straws I use in my chair or to drink hot tea.


  I was able to do a number of fun things this week, see Ben Folds and John 
Mayer, who were great in an outdoor theater in Bonner Springs Kansas.  I have 
seen both before and John Mayer has added saxophone, trumpet and regular piano 
rather than just the electric this time  I went to the friend of the zoo picnic 
that lasted until 8 p.m. last night.  Our zoo in Kansas City is so spread out 
it's hard to see a lot of the animals , but I saw more than I usually do.  
Friday I'm seeing a play a Prairie home companion and Jim Brickman both in the 
outdoor theater we have in KC, MO. on Friday and Saturday.  That's what I like 
about summer, there are so many events and is so much easier to go places, not 
needing any outerwear.

  Thanks a lot.
  Dana


  My problem with bleach was my aides would unfortunately bleached things I 
didn't want bleached.  
  How do you use the Freebreeze, just on the outside? I guess when I have 
insurance no longer when my stepmom retires, I will have to use bleach.


   
  Hi Dana, save yourself some money.  For the bedside bag, go to Dallor General 
and get cheap bleach or plain old vinager and a plastic ketchup squeeze bottle. 
 You can clean both bags.  I use New Image by Hollister for urostomy appliances 
and there is very little urine smell, when there is Freebreeze works great.
  Good Luck,
  Nancy






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[QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag Cleanser Ostomy & Urostomy appliance cleaner by ReliaMaed

[DAANOO]

Hi Nancy,

The only reason I purchased was because my insurance  covered after my co-pay 
was paid , which I was extremely surprised that they  would.  I get all my 
ostomy supplies from Edgepark medical supply.   They send supplies every three 
months, so that is convenient as you don't have  to remember to order.  I get 
all my chux at express medical as they seem to  be a good price.  Where does 
everybody else get their supplies?
Where  does everybody get their tubing? I used to extend my bedbag for my 
night bag and  day bag, for the ends of my pencils I use on my splints and to 
connect long  straws together to reach my mouth from my 2 gallon jug I use at 
night and straws  I use in my chair or to drink hot tea.
 
 
I was able to do a number of fun things this week, see Ben Folds and John  
Mayer, who were great in an outdoor theater in Bonner Springs Kansas.  I  have 
seen both before and John Mayer has added saxophone, trumpet and regular  piano 
rather than just the electric this time  I went to the friend of the  zoo 
picnic that lasted until 8 p.m. last night.  Our zoo in Kansas City is  so 
spread 
out it's hard to see a lot of the animals , but I saw more than I  usually 
do.  Friday I'm seeing a play a Prairie home companion and Jim  Brickman both 
in 
the outdoor theater we have in KC, MO. on Friday and  Saturday.  That's what 
I like about summer, there are so many events and is  so much easier to go 
places, not needing any outerwear.

Thanks a lot.
Dana
 

My problem with bleach was my aides would unfortunately bleached things  I 
didn't want bleached.  
How do you use the Freebreeze, just on the outside? I guess when I have  
insurance no longer when my stepmom retires, I will have to use bleach.
 


Hi Dana, save yourself some money.  For the bedside bag, go to Dallor  
General and get cheap bleach or plain old vinager and a plastic ketchup squeeze 
 
bottle.  You can clean both bags.  I use New Image by Hollister for  urostomy 
appliances and there is very little urine smell, when there is  Freebreeze 
works 
great.
Good Luck,
Nancy




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[QUAD-L] Re Fwd: Fighting for Kids Just Got Easier

[DAANOO]

You can click and they have an e-mail already written that you can add to  
and send to all your senators and  representative.
Dana



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RE: [QUAD-L] Re: Lifeline switch

[Mike Murach]

Lifeline is one of those devices that when activated a person calls you back
over a speaker and asks if you need any help.  Remember the 'I've fallen and
I can't get up' bit?  That's what it is.

Mike~

 

Please check out my art gallery at:

  www.MurGallery.com

 

-Original Message-
From: Quadius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 3:20 PM
To: Mike Murach
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: Lifeline switch

 

I hate to sound ignorant, but I try to go by the motto that the only stupid
question is one that wasn't asked.  With that in mind, what is Lifeline?
Quadius

On 6/14/07, Mike Murach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Quadius,

The switch only activates my Lifeline.  My ECU is activated via voice which
can control anything with an IR remote and X-10's. 

Mike~

 

Please check out my art gallery at:

  www.MurGallery.com <http://www.murgallery.com/>  

 

-Original Message-
From: Quadius [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 4:57 PM
To: Mike Murach
Subject: Lifeline switch

 

Mike,
what do you use the switch for?  To control lights or fans.
Quadius 

On 6/10/07, Mike Murach < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
wrote: 

I'm married now. but, I lived alone for 14 years (c-3/4 complete).
Nighttime was always the most difficult for me.  Obviously though, it can be
done.  For me I have an ECU (Sicare pilot) which operated a telephone,
heating blanket (ON MY SHOULDERS ONLY), fan, TV, VCR, etc.  Then, as a
supplement - a Lifeline bite switch hanging above me.  Lastly, a straw going
to a water mug.  

Mike~

 

Please check out my art gallery at:

  www.MurGallery.com <http://www.murgallery.com/>  

 

-Original Message-
From: Merrill Burghardt [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] 
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:21 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] How One Can live Alone

 

I am always wondering how higher spinal injured people do it alone.  There
must be a great support group.  I do not but I wonder if that is only my
fear in spite of technology.  Must take a lot of trust to newly met people. 

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] 
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 4:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] have not got many post today! 

 

In a message dated 6/9/2007 5:10:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

It's a beautiful day!

Welcome to the quad-list, you are a newbie 10 mo post. I'm Lindaf, I am a
C4-5 complete but I live alone in my apartment in Valparaiso, IN.  Again
welcome 

Lindaf

Hi Linda,

How do you get by living alone at night? Do you sleep on an air mattress so
you can avoid different sleeping positions? Do you wear a life line? Sorry
for all the questions, just curious. 

Diane

 

  _  

See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503> .


 

 

Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Lifeline switch

[Nichole Rohling]

THIS IS WHAT I HAVE - I KEEP TO WATCH ON MY CHAIR. THE PUSH OF A BUTTON AND VIA 
SPEAKER PHONE EMERGENCY HELP IS AVAILABLE W/OUT DIALING THE PHONE

http://www.linktolife.com/

NICKI
myspace.com/knrquad

  - Original Message - 
  From: Quadius 
  To: Mike Murach 
  Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 3:19 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: Lifeline switch


  I hate to sound ignorant, but I try to go by the motto that the only stupid 
question is one that wasn't asked.  With that in mind, what is Lifeline?
  Quadius


  On 6/14/07, Mike Murach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Quadius,

The switch only activates my Lifeline.  My ECU is activated via voice which 
can control anything with an IR remote and X-10's. 

Mike~



Please check out my art gallery at:

  www.MurGallery.com 



-Original Message-
From: Quadius [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 4:57 PM
To: Mike Murach
Subject: Lifeline switch



Mike,
what do you use the switch for?  To control lights or fans.
Quadius 

On 6/10/07, Mike Murach < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

I'm married now… but, I lived alone for 14 years (c-3/4 complete).  
Nighttime was always the most difficult for me.  Obviously though, it can be 
done.  For me I have an ECU (Sicare pilot) which operated a telephone, heating 
blanket (ON MY SHOULDERS ONLY), fan, TV, VCR, etc.  Then, as a supplement – a 
Lifeline bite switch hanging above me.  Lastly, a straw going to a water mug.  

Mike~



Please check out my art gallery at:

  www.MurGallery.com 



-Original Message-
From: Merrill Burghardt [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:21 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] How One Can live Alone



I am always wondering how higher spinal injured people do it alone.  There 
must be a great support group.  I do not but I wonder if that is only my fear 
in spite of technology.  Must take a lot of trust to newly met people. 






From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 4:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] have not got many post today! 



In a message dated 6/9/2007 5:10:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:

  It's a beautiful day!

  Welcome to the quad-list, you are a newbie 10 mo post. I'm Lindaf, I am a 
C4-5 complete but I live alone in my apartment in Valparaiso, IN.  Again 
welcome 

  Lindaf

Hi Linda,

How do you get by living alone at night? Do you sleep on an air mattress so 
you can avoid different sleeping positions? Do you wear a life line? Sorry for 
all the questions, just curious. 

Diane






See what's free at AOL.com. 

[QUAD-L] Re: Lifeline switch

[Quadius]

I hate to sound ignorant, but I try to go by the motto that the only stupid
question is one that wasn't asked.  With that in mind, what is Lifeline?
Quadius

On 6/14/07, Mike Murach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Quadius,

The switch only activates my Lifeline.  My ECU is activated via voice
which can control anything with an IR remote and X-10's.

Mike~



Please check out my art gallery at:

  www.MurGallery.com 



-Original Message-
*From:* Quadius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 13, 2007 4:57 PM
*To:* Mike Murach
*Subject:* Lifeline switch



Mike,
what do you use the switch for?  To control lights or fans.
Quadius

On 6/10/07, *Mike Murach* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm married now… but, I lived alone for 14 years (c-3/4 complete).
Nighttime was always the most difficult for me.  Obviously though, it can be
done.  For me I have an ECU (Sicare pilot) which operated a telephone,
heating blanket (ON MY SHOULDERS ONLY), fan, TV, VCR, etc.  Then, as a
supplement – a Lifeline bite switch hanging above me.  Lastly, a straw going
to a water mug.

Mike~



Please check out my art gallery at:

  www.MurGallery.com 



-Original Message-
*From:* Merrill Burghardt [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:21 AM
*To:* quad-list@eskimo.com
*Subject:* [QUAD-L] How One Can live Alone



I am always wondering how higher spinal injured people do it alone.  There
must be a great support group.  I do not but I wonder if that is only my
fear in spite of technology.  Must take a lot of trust to newly met people.


  --

*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Saturday, June 09, 2007 4:07 PM
*To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] have not got many post today!



In a message dated 6/9/2007 5:10:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It's a beautiful day!

Welcome to the quad-list, you are a newbie 10 mo post. I'm Lindaf, I am a
C4-5 complete but I live alone in my apartment in Valparaiso, IN.  Again
welcome

Lindaf

 *Hi Linda,*

*How do you get by living alone at night? Do you sleep on an air mattress
so you can avoid different sleeping positions? Do you wear a life line?
Sorry for all the questions, just curious. *

*Diane*


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[QUAD-L] RE: Lifeline switch

[Mike Murach]

Quadius,

The switch only activates my Lifeline.  My ECU is activated via voice which
can control anything with an IR remote and X-10's.

Mike~

 

Please check out my art gallery at:

  www.MurGallery.com

 

-Original Message-
From: Quadius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 4:57 PM
To: Mike Murach
Subject: Lifeline switch

 

Mike,
what do you use the switch for?  To control lights or fans.
Quadius

On 6/10/07, Mike Murach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

I'm married now. but, I lived alone for 14 years (c-3/4 complete).
Nighttime was always the most difficult for me.  Obviously though, it can be
done.  For me I have an ECU (Sicare pilot) which operated a telephone,
heating blanket (ON MY SHOULDERS ONLY), fan, TV, VCR, etc.  Then, as a
supplement - a Lifeline bite switch hanging above me.  Lastly, a straw going
to a water mug.  

Mike~

 

Please check out my art gallery at:

  www.MurGallery.com   

 

-Original Message-
From: Merrill Burghardt [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ] 
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:21 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] How One Can live Alone

 

I am always wondering how higher spinal injured people do it alone.  There
must be a great support group.  I do not but I wonder if that is only my
fear in spite of technology.  Must take a lot of trust to newly met people. 

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ] 
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 4:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] have not got many post today! 

 

In a message dated 6/9/2007 5:10:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

It's a beautiful day!

Welcome to the quad-list, you are a newbie 10 mo post. I'm Lindaf, I am a
C4-5 complete but I live alone in my apartment in Valparaiso, IN.  Again
welcome 

Lindaf

Hi Linda,

How do you get by living alone at night? Do you sleep on an air mattress so
you can avoid different sleeping positions? Do you wear a life line? Sorry
for all the questions, just curious. 

Diane

 

  _  

See what's free at AOL.com  .


 

Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [QUAD-power chairsat beach

[wheelchair]

 
In a message dated 6/13/2007 3:13:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

How many people take your power chair to a sandy beach? Does it harm your  
chair?
Lindaf



Like water and oil,  electric, sand, water and wheelchairs  don't mix very 
well.  The more complicate your chair is and constructed,  the more sensitive 
your chair will be in sand on the beach.
 
Now rolling around on the concrete sidewalks is no problem, if you  are 
careful of the bicycles and roller blades and lol dogs.
 
Best Wishes
W



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[QUAD-L] Re: [QUAD-power chairsat beach

[LINDA FERRELL]

How many people take your power chair to a sandy beach? Does it harm your chair?
  Lindaf

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Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use to do so...

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Naomi,
   
  Have someone take any moving parts apart when cleaning anything..
   
  With Love,
 
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post
  Texas, USA 
 
  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Dave,
   
  I was told to use a vinegar and water solution to plane the bed bag and leg 
bag.
  Naomi
C-4 quad since July 2, 2005
Transverse Myelitis





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Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use to do so...

[LadyNotes]

Dave,
 
I was told to use a vinegar and water solution to plane the  bed bag and leg 
bag.  

Naomi
C-4 quad since July 2,  2005
Transverse Myelitis




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Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use to do so & mixtures

[John S.]

If you set fire to it you'll kill most of the germs, but someone usually gripes 
about the smoke. Alcohol and ammonia will get it clean but most bags disolve 
after a few cleanings. I just donate mine to a landfill and ruin new ones. I 
got a case of them on ebay and I'd like to use them up before I die. 

john


- Original Message 
From: Merrill Burghardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:37:18 PM
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use 
to do so & mixtures


I used it also but its to long ago.  The 1 part bleach to 10 part water has 
served me well.
mb
 



From: Nichole Rohling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:07 AM
To: Danny Hearn; Quadlist
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use 
to do so & mixtures
 
WHITE
- Original Message - 
From: Danny Hearn 
To: Nichole Rohling ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Quadlist 
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use 
to do so & mixtures
 
Do you guy's use the White or Brown vinegar ???  does it matter ? Dan H.

Nichole Rohling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
A DASH OF VINEGAR IN A GALLON OF WATER IS WHAT I USE 
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:32 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use to do 
so & mixtures
 
My aide is not cleaning my Bedbag properly.  Is there any kind of product that 
can be used besides bleach. It is so easy to bleach the wrong things.  Would 
others please share their method of doing so.  I remember when I was first 
injured I used to order some cleaner from somewhere and then at one time I use 
something called Green?  It had getting mixed up.
I would like some new ideas as I am sure soap is not good enough by itself.
 
Thank you so much for your information.
 
I remember Lori giving her procedure a while back but I think she used bleach.  
I have lost that post.
 
Dana






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FW: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use to do so & mixtures

[Merrill Burghardt]

I used it also but its to long ago.  The 1 part bleach to 10 part water has
served me well.

mb

 

  _  

From: Nichole Rohling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:07 AM
To: Danny Hearn; Quadlist
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you
use to do so & mixtures

 

WHITE

- Original Message - 

From: Danny Hearn <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: Nichole <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Rohling ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
Quadlist <mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 11:17 AM

Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you
use to do so & mixtures

 

Do you guy's use the White or Brown vinegar ???  does it matter ?
Dan H.

Nichole Rohling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

A DASH OF VINEGAR IN A GALLON OF WATER IS WHAT I USE 

- Original Message - 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

To: quad-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:32 PM

Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use to
do so & mixtures

 

My aide is not cleaning my Bedbag properly.  Is there any kind of product
that can be used besides bleach. It is so easy to bleach the wrong things.
Would others please share their method of doing so.  I remember when I was
first injured I used to order some cleaner from somewhere and then at one
time I use something called Green?  It had getting mixed up.
I would like some new ideas as I am sure soap is not good enough by itself.

 

Thank you so much for your information.

 

I remember Lori giving her procedure a while back but I think she used
bleach.  I have lost that post.

 

Dana






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FW: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use to do so & mixtures

[Merrill Burghardt]

The 10:1 bleach to water kills the bacteria and germs.  The vinegar
dissolves sediment left behind by bleach.

mb

 

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From: David K. Kelmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:32 AM
To: KK; Quad-List
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you
use to do so & mixtures

 

Hi KK,

 

It can be used 4:1 or 5:1, or 1:1, parts water/vinegar.

 

With Love,
 
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post

Texas, USA 



KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

We use vinegar solution




 

Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use to do so & mixtures

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi KK,
   
  It can be used 4:1 or 5:1, or 1:1, parts water/vinegar.
   
  With Love,
 
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post
  Texas, USA 


KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  We use vinegar solution

Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use to do so & mixtures

[Nichole Rohling]

WHITE
  - Original Message - 
  From: Danny Hearn 
  To: Nichole Rohling ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Quadlist 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 11:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use 
to do so & mixtures


  Do you guy's use the White or Brown vinegar ???  does it matter ? Dan 
H.

  Nichole Rohling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
A DASH OF VINEGAR IN A GALLON OF WATER IS WHAT I USE 
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:32 PM
      Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use 
to do so & mixtures


  My aide is not cleaning my Bedbag properly.  Is there any kind of product 
that can be used besides bleach. It is so easy to bleach the wrong things.  
Would others please share their method of doing so.  I remember when I was 
first injured I used to order some cleaner from somewhere and then at one time 
I use something called Green?  It had getting mixed up.
  I would like some new ideas as I am sure soap is not good enough by 
itself.

  Thank you so much for your information.

  I remember Lori giving her procedure a while back but I think she used 
bleach.  I have lost that post.

  Dana





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Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use to do so & mixtures

[Danny Hearn]

Do you guy's use the White or Brown vinegar ???  does it matter ? Dan H.

Nichole Rohling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  A DASH OF VINEGAR IN A 
GALLON OF WATER IS WHAT I USE 
- Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:32 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use to 
do so & mixtures
  

  My aide is not cleaning my Bedbag properly.  Is there any kind of product 
that can be used besides bleach. It is so easy to bleach the wrong things.  
Would others please share their method of doing so.  I remember when I was 
first injured I used to order some cleaner from somewhere and then at one time 
I use something called Green?  It had getting mixed up.
I would like some new ideas as I am sure soap is not good enough by itself.
   
  Thank you so much for your information.
   
  I remember Lori giving her procedure a while back but I think she used 
bleach.  I have lost that post.
   
  Dana




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RE: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use to do so & mixtures

[Eric W Rudd]

I use straight vinegar.

Eric W Rudd
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Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use to do so & mixtures

[Nichole Rohling]

A DASH OF VINEGAR IN A GALLON OF WATER IS WHAT I USE 
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:32 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use to 
do so & mixtures


  My aide is not cleaning my Bedbag properly.  Is there any kind of product 
that can be used besides bleach. It is so easy to bleach the wrong things.  
Would others please share their method of doing so.  I remember when I was 
first injured I used to order some cleaner from somewhere and then at one time 
I use something called Green?  It had getting mixed up.
  I would like some new ideas as I am sure soap is not good enough by itself.

  Thank you so much for your information.

  I remember Lori giving her procedure a while back but I think she used 
bleach.  I have lost that post.

  Dana





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Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use to do so & mixtures

[KK]

We use vinegar solution

Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use to do so...

[Oconnelldb]

 
 
once again I'm the oddball.  I wear my leg bag to bed.  unhook it  and lay it 
beside me.  most times I make it all night.  other times I  have wifey empty 
it when she gets up to go.  I dispose of it every month  with my cath change.  
when I used my Texas cath - I never washed it - just  replaced it every 2 or 
3 months.
Dave
 
 
 
In a message dated 5/29/2007 7:33:07 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

My aide is not cleaning my Bedbag properly.  Is there any kind of  product 
that can be used besides bleach. It is so easy to bleach the wrong  things.  
Would others please share their method of doing so.  I  remember when I was 
first 
injured I used to order some cleaner from somewhere  and then at one time I 
use something called Green?  It had getting mixed  up.
I would like some new ideas as I am sure soap is not good enough by  itself.
 
Thank you so much for your information.
 
I remember Lori giving her procedure a while back but I think she used  
bleach.  I have lost that post.
 
Dana



 

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Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use to do so & mixtures

[Robert Brennan]

Hello Dana,
we use Milton in tablet form but,
that's for soaking. It also comes in liquid form.
cheers Rob.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My aide is not cleaning my Bedbag properly.  Is 
there any kind of  product that can be used besides bleach. It is so easy to 
bleach the wrong  things.  Would others please share their method of doing so.  
I  remember when I was first injured I used to order some cleaner from 
somewhere  and then at one time I use something called Green?  It had getting 
mixed  up.
I would like some new ideas as I am sure soap is not good enough by  itself.
  
 Thank you so much for your information.
  
 I remember Lori giving her procedure a while back but I think she used  
bleach.  I have lost that post.
  
 Dana




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[QUAD-L] Re: Bedbag legbag cleaning procedure & products you use to do so & mixtures

[DAANOO]

My aide is not cleaning my Bedbag properly.  Is there any kind of  product 
that can be used besides bleach. It is so easy to bleach the wrong  things.  
Would others please share their method of doing so.  I  remember when I was 
first 
injured I used to order some cleaner from somewhere  and then at one time I 
use something called Green?  It had getting mixed  up.
I would like some new ideas as I am sure soap is not good enough by  itself.
 
Thank you so much for your information.
 
I remember Lori giving her procedure a while back but I think she used  
bleach.  I have lost that post.
 
Dana



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[QUAD-L] Re: Fwd: Private plans cost taxpayers more

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Dear Dana,

You may have noticed Medicare in the headlines again. In
particular, the Medicare Advantage program has been grabbing
attention. And it's for all the wrong reasons. Sadly, the heavy
financial and personal costs of this attempt to privatize
Medicare are becoming clear. 

Whose Advantage? 

Medicare Advantage (MA) plans are private plans that contract
with the government to provide beneficiaries with their Medicare
benefits. As a result of the 2003 Medicare Modernization Act,
private MA plans are paid an average of 12 percent more per
member compared to the cost to care for that person in
traditional Medicare. That adds up to $54 billion in taxpayer
subsidies over the next 5 years, according to the Congressional
Budget Office.

As the summer heats up, insurance companies will spend millions
to keep that money for their profits. We will need your help to
defeat them when the time comes.

Independent experts and health care advocates agree that
Congress should level payments between MA and traditional
Medicare (check out our letter
[http://ga3.org/ct/bdSxI371pXGZ/] to Members of Congress). 

Beneficiaries are hurting too. Insurance commissioners in 39
states have received complaints about MA marketing practices,
like forging seniors' signatures, targeting people with limited
English capacity, or selling plans door-to-door. As a result,
vulnerable beneficiaries lose access to their doctors and get
stuck with large medical bills. 

Click here [http://ga3.org/ct/gpSxI371pXGD/] to send this
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Minorities and Medicare Advantage

In an effort to protect the profits they receive from government
overpayments, the insurance industry claims that minorities and
low-income seniors are likely to be disproportionately affected
if Congress levels the playing field for private plans and
starts paying them at the same rate as traditional Medicare.

The truth is, minorities in Medicare are several times more
likely to receive coverage through traditional Medicare than
through private Medicare Advantage plans. And because there's no
government oversight for these private plans, there's no way to
know if seniors are actually benefiting. 

Recently, the TriCaucus (Congressional Black Caucus,
Congressional Hispanic Caucus and the Congressional Asian
Pacific American Caucus) held a briefing on MA to explore its
role in communities of color. Ron Pollack, Families USA
Executive Director, gave a presentation that demonstrates how
many seniors from racial and ethnic minority communities
actually rely on MA plans. 

The presentation also shows how windfall payments to private
Medicare plans send billions of dollars to private insurers that
could otherwise be used to fund health care programs that
directly serve low-income and minority populations. 

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[QUAD-L] Re: broken neck Dave Clark Five, lead singer Mike Smith

[DAANOO]

   
 
My brother found this,He had  heard about this accident a number of years 
ago, but had not been able to  find any information how about his situation.  
.I 
found this so interesting  and heartbreaking to think of  other persons are 
going through.   .it's a good thing, we were not injured in England.I don't 
know 
if  he could not get help because he had too much money to qualify or their  
health-care system is just not good.  .I know they have some kind of  
government health-care system,because I have a penpal, who told me about  
this,but he 
also had private insurance, because he was a lawyer. 

I  am sure a lot of you remember him.
Dana 
_http://www2.rpa.net/~theboltons/MSRE.htm_ 
(http://www2.rpa.net/~theboltons/MSRE.htm)  
Good morning,

Charlie and I  would like to share an article with you that appeared in the 
Daily Mail here in  England, but first I have a few comments to make regarding 
the article.  

Since last year, Charlie and I have been having discharge meetings, but  to 
date I still have no definite date as to when I will be able to go home. A  lot 
of things have to be sorted out before I am able to leave the hospital, but  
the good news is that at last we are starting to see the light at the end of  
this long 4 year tunnel. You have my promise that we will let all of you know  
the minute a definite date is scheduled. 
Secondly, and very important, is  the fact that the reporter forgot to 
mention all the work that Peter Noone is  doing on my behalf. The reason this 
interview was granted was to bring awareness  to all of the efforts being made 
to 
raise money to purchase a van for me. We  gave the reporter full details and 
the 
address of Peter's website and told her  repeatedly how grateful we are for 
all his efforts and to be sure he got  mentioned in the article. Sadly, my 
request was not honored, so I would like to  apologise to Peter and all the 
fans 
that are working so hard on my behalf.  
Lots of love
Mike   

  

DAILY MAIL ARTICLE, 5/18/07: 
I'm feeling glad all over:
Dave Clark Five star is going home after four years in  hospital

Homeward bound: Mike Smith with his wife Charlie

He used to travel the  globe followed by hordes of screaming fans, but for 
the last four years Mike  Smith’s world has been his hospital room. 

The former singer and keyboard  player with the 1960s pop group the Dave 
Clark Five was left paralysed in a  freak accident when he fell while trying to 
climb a gate at his Spanish villa.  

Since then he has been treated at Stoke Mandeville Hospital in  
Buckinghamshire learning how to cope with being paralysed from the neck down.  

Now at last he has been told he can go home to live with his wife  Charlie – 
and the 63-year-old says he cannot wait to experience the simple  pleasures 
which most take for granted. 

"It’s the little things I am  looking forward to – having an ice-cream or a 
picnic and drives through the  countryside seeing grass, trees and cows," he 
said. 

"It is exciting but  scary at the same time. There are some things that 
terrify me, like being stuck  in a crowd in my wheelchair. 

"It is treading into the unknown. This  hospital has been my home for the 
past four years but it has been like a prison  for me. 

"Now I am going to be out there and have my freedom again."  

The Dave Clark Five sold 100 million records around the world with hits  such 
as Bits And Pieces while their song Glad All Over knocked the Beatles’ I  
Want To Hold Your Hand off the top spot. 

But clashes within the group  led to them splitting up in 1971. Smith went on 
to sing with other bands and  produce records for the likes of Dame Shirley 
Bassey and Michael Ball.  

Chart toppers: The Dave Clark Five with Smith on the left

He also  married his long-lost sweetheart Charlie, 64, in October 2001, 35 
years after  they first dated. The pair had lost contact but the actress 
tracked 
him down in  1999. 

Their happiness was cut short in September 2003 when Smith, who  was trying 
to climb a 7ft gate after locking himself out of their villa, fell  heavily and 
landed on his head. 

He cracked his spine in three places and  was left a tetraplegic. 

Smith has regained enough use of his left arm to  operate an electric 
wheelchair but a tracheotomy he underwent means he can speak  only through a 
plastic 
microphone and tube attached to his throat. 

As  well as having to relearn simple tasks, he is also facing a legal battle 
against  a charity set up to raise cash for his treatment. 

The Royal Theatrical  Fund set up an appeal to help pay for equipment for him 
– but Smith and his wife  claim they have received only a pair of glasses and 
a television, while £11,000  remains unaccounted for. 

The fund has denied the allegations, saying it  has paid out £20,000 to the 
couple. 

When Smith returns to his home in  Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, within the 
next three months he will have two  full-

[QUAD-L] Re: Postings

[wheelchair]

 
In a message dated 5/23/2007 5:21:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

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Hiya Back Lori.  We miss you and your positive postings too.
Tell your friend to sign up again and post.  Lurking is not allowed,  lol
Best Wishes
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Re: [QUAD-L] RE: [scilist] Re Hal

[Tim Thompson]

Hi Joan,
When I got injured 11 yrs ago, my first computer was a MAC SE, with a
whopping 1MB of RAM and a 10MB HD.
Now my video card has ALMOST 50x more RAM than it had (512MB).
Computer Graphics sure takes up a lot of RAM nowdays.
The old MAC drawing program gave me the bug to go to school for CG.
Stunt

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Hi Dana

Go to Smarthome.com and check out HAL-for someone who can use the phone the
system is affordable and works very well I am told. I have a Si-Care so I
have actually not tried its capabilities.

I am sure it is like all voice activated, works great under ideal conditions
J. I love voice activated, but hate the fact that external noises can
completely disrupt the system. However, it sure beats the heck out of having
nothing at all. 16 and half years ago I had nothing at all, except for my
Macintosh (a 128 which we had upgraded to a 526) but luckily it had assisted
devices built in. It allowed me to use a mouth stick and I was able to
resume typing and working on the computer to some extent. Of course, there
was no Internet then. Sure did open the world when the Internet became
available to all of us.

Have a great day Joan


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[QUAD-L] Re: Fwd: Great News for Community Choice! Act Now!

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promises for both the Senate Finance Committee and the House Energy and
Commerce Committee to hold hearings on the Community Choice Act!

In June/July the new cost study will be published and available showing the
cost is a fraction of that misguided CBO estimate of so long ago.

This bill has wheels!

IT'S TIME!

Now is the time to sign on more co-sponsors.  House and Senate will break for
Memorial Day and be in their home districts holding public meetings etc. or in
local offices May 28 to June 1.  Then July 2- 6 they will be back for
Independence Day!  IT'S TIME!  Make your plans now to visit and get your
Representative AND Senators signed on as Co-Sponsors.

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In case you had not heard yet, while in DC for our National Action ADAPT got
promises for both the Senate Finance Committee and the House Energy and
Commerce Committee to hold hearings on the Community Choice Act!

In June/July the new cost study will be published and available showing the
cost is a fraction of that misguided CBO estimate of so long ago.

This bill has wheels!

IT'S TIME!

Now is the time to sign on more co-sponsors.  House and Senate will break for
Memorial Day and be in their home districts holding public meetings etc. or in
local offices May 28 to June 1.  Then July 2- 6 they will be back for
Independence Day!  IT'S TIME!  Make your plans now to visit and get your
Representative AND Senators signed on as Co-Sponsors.

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[QUAD-L] RE: [scilist] Re Hal

[Joan Anglin]

Hi Dana

Go to Smarthome.com and check out HAL-for someone who can use the phone the
system is affordable and works very well I am told. I have a Si-Care so I
have actually not tried its capabilities.

I am sure it is like all voice activated, works great under ideal conditions
J. I love voice activated, but hate the fact that external noises can
completely disrupt the system. However, it sure beats the heck out of having
nothing at all. 16 and half years ago I had nothing at all, except for my
Macintosh (a 128 which we had upgraded to a 526) but luckily it had assisted
devices built in. It allowed me to use a mouth stick and I was able to
resume typing and working on the computer to some extent. Of course, there
was no Internet then. Sure did open the world when the Internet became
available to all of us.

Have a great day Joan


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[QUAD-L] Re Hal

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_http://www.zabaware.com/home.html_ (http://www.zabaware.com/home.html) 
 
Has a program called HAL that will read your screens and also dial your  
phone for you...
 
Has anyone ever heard of this, a friend of mine found  this.
Dana




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[QUAD-L] Re: interesting show on Discovery

[DAANOO]

A show called myth busters is on.  I don't know it's normal time slot  is but 
they are working with dogs today.   It is on right now maybe  half over.  
6:30 p.m. Central standard Time.
 
Dana



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[QUAD-L] Re: Fwd: Contact Your Representative During the May Recess

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May 4, 2007Dear CAMR Member,   CAMR has been working closely with House leadership since the passage of the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act (S. 5) in the Senate on April 11, 2007.  As you know, S.5 is slightly different than the bill passed by the House in January (H.R. 3) and requires approval by the House before it can be sent to the President.   We have learned that the House intends to bring up S. 5 for a vote following the Memorial Day Recess, possibly on June 6th or 7th. We need your help to ensure that this bill passes the House by a strong majority. Here is how you can help:   Call your Representative’s district office and ask if the Representative will be in the district during the Memorial Day Recess (May 26 – June 3).  Ask for a meeting or make plans to attend an event also attended by your Representative to request a yes vote on S.5.  This is a great time of year for parades or county fairs; look for opportunities to see your Representative in a public forum where you can discuss the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act.   The telephone number for your Representative’s district office is:Representative  at Now is also the time to encourage at least 10 of your family and friends to visit our website to sign up as members so that we can build an even stronger voice across the nation. Urge your contacts to visit the Advocacy section and fill out the My Profile section to become members at www.camradvocacy.org.   Thank you for everything you do.  We will provide more information about the House vote as things evolve.   Sincerely,   Sean Tipton, President www.camradvocacy.orgClick here to unsubscribe.
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[QUAD-L] Re: Fwd: Announcing: New Faith-Based Resource Center

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In case any of you are interested.
Dana



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[QUAD-L] Re: 99 Arrested as ADAPT Demands U.S. House Hearings on Community Choice Act

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For Immediate Release:
April 29, 2007

For information contact:
Bob Kafka (512) 431-4085
Marsha Katz (406) 544-9504

99 Arrested as ADAPT Demands U.S. House Hearings on Community Choice Act

Washington, D.C.--- 99 arrests occurred when ADAPT invaded the
Rayburn House Office Building to push for hearings on the Community Choice
Act (CCA, S 799 and H.R. 1621) by the House Energy and Commerce Committee
Subcommittee on Health. ADAPT took over the hearing room along with the
office of Rep. John Dingell (D-MI), and Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX), and filled
the horseshoe drive outside the Rayburn front door.

"We've been waiting for ten years for this legislation to pass,
and all the while Congress has refused to act on this national scandal of
America forcing people into nursing homes against their will," said Dawn
Russell, currently with ADAPT in Colorado. "I had to leave my home state
of Tennessee in order to get the assistance that would keep me out of a
nursing home. I want so much to be able to go home to Tennessee to be with
my family, but I can't because then I'd be forced into a nursing home just
because I need personal assistance to get through my day, and Tennessee
refuses to provide that assistance to people in their own homes. I won't
give up my freedom, my privacy, my dignity and the control over my life,
so I have to stay in exile in Colorado."

The CCA was introduced in March 2007, and is the newest version of
legislation that would remove the institutional bias in the nation's
outdated Medicaid program by allowing Medicaid to pay for the services and
supports people need to remain in their own homes. Currently under
Medicaid, states are federally mandated to provide only nursing home
services, and are not equally mandated to provide similar services in a
person's own home, thus diverting the person from being forced into a
nursing home or other institution. In order for the CCA to move through
Congress, the next step is to hold hearings. ADAPT met with the Democratic
National Committee (DNC) last week, and is meeting with the Republican
National Committee (RNC) this week to garner their support for hearings,
and to gain additional co-sponsors.

"It's easy for Congress to ignore us," said Guadalupe Vasquez of
Texas ADAPT. "After all, they all make a very good living and have great
benefits, and so they will never have to face the prospect of forced
institutionalization and loss of their freedom. On the other hand, many of
us live on $600/month, so we are the people who Congress, by its inaction,
is guaranteeing will lose our freedom. We'll lose our freedom, and we'll
be relegated to back wards where we will lie in our own waste until
someone eventually takes the time to change us, and where we acquire
deadly pressure sores because no one takes the time to reposition us. It's
way past time for Congress to correct this travesty."

The ability to stay in one's own home with needed services is even
more critical now that the baby boom generation has entered its
"disability years," the time of life when they are most likely to acquire
disabilities that will cause them to leave the workforce and apply for
disability benefits. Some members of ADAPT have been part of the
organization since its inception nearly 25 years ago, going from being
younger people with disabilities forced into nursing homes to elders of
retirement age, again being threatened with forced institutionalization.

Observed Barbara Toomer of Utah ADAPT, "More and more of us have
come to see the need for home and community-based services from two
perspectives- disability and aging. The perspectives may differ a bit, but
the desire to remain in our own homes with the services and supports we
need is exactly the same. We must assure passage of the Community Choice
Act now."

On Tuesday, May 1, ADAPT will host HUD Secretary Alphonso Jackson
for a meeting at their hotel in the morning, and then will meet with Mike
Hudson, Chair of the Republican National Committee in the afternoon.

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[QUAD-L] Re: Fwd: CMA Conference Develops Medicare Beneficiary Complaint Process

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CENTER FOR MEDICARE ADVOCACY CONFERENCE DEVELOPS MEDICARE BENEFICIARY COMPLAINT 
PROCESS

The Center for Medicare Advocacy, Inc., (the Center), convened a working 
conference in January 2007 that designed a model for resolving Medicare 
beneficiaries' complaints about quality of care. Sponsored by the Commonwealth 
Fund, with assistance from AARP, the conference provided a forum for key 
stakeholders to discuss concerns and develop a blueprint for change.
 
Medicare beneficiaries and their advocates are concerned that this current 
process for resolving beneficiary complaints about quality of care has not been 
effective in providing fair and timely resolution of complaints. Concerns about 
the process include an inadequate resolution of beneficiary complaints about 
poor quality, a lack of information about proper care protocols, and the 
failure to provide expedited review of denials of care.

Conference Overview

The Center's conference was triggered in part by the national Institute of 
Medicine's (IoM) comprehensive study in 2006 of Medicare's current beneficiary 
quality of care complaint process.  The IoM and others had on many occasions 
called for a beneficiary-focused complaint review process. The current process, 
operated under a contract with Quality Improvement Organizations (QIOs) has 
been found to be primarily provider-focused, assisting providers in quality 
improvement activities, rather than beneficiary-focused.  The IoM, as a result 
of its cumulative findings, recommended removing the function of performing 
quality of care investigations from the QIOs and allowing other entities to 
perform this work while QIOs continue to focus more specifically on assisting 
health care providers in quality improvement.

Prior to the conference, the Center commissioned three background papers to 
provide a framework for discussing these topics and others related to quality 
review.  Forty-two experts in fields ranging from direct patient care to 
Congressional staff reviewed these pieces and participated in the day-long 
conference to produce a model complaint process.

The Model Complaint Process

An overview of the quality complaint model designed by the conference and a 
short description of its elements are provided below: 

1. Filing Complaints

Definition of "Complaint" Should be Construed Broadly
Participants agreed that the definition of "complaint" should be construed 
broadly. An ideal system would be able to accept and document the broad array 
of potential complaints. It would also be flexible enough to allow for an 
appropriate method of resolving the complaint, based on its severity and other 
factors.

Anyone Can File a Complaint
Participants agreed that anyone should be able to file a complaint. There was 
consensus that an ideal system would receive and follow through on complaints 
from beneficiaries, family members, advocates, health care workers, and anyone 
else with important information. The system would need the means to protect the 
anonymity of staff and comply with HIPAA.

Neither Language nor Technology Should Discourage Complaints
The ability to file a complaint should not be constrained by language, 
literacy, or technological barriers. The complaint process should utilize 
materials that are age-appropriate and should recognize that primarily 
Internet-based systems are not effective with the current Medicare beneficiary 
population.

2. Goals of the Complaint Process

The Primary Goal is Addressing Beneficiary Concerns
Participants agreed that the primary goal of the complaint process system 
should be to address and resolve beneficiary concerns.

A Secondary Goal is Identifying Provider Opportunities for Quality Improvement
In addition to focusing on the beneficiary, it was agreed that the complaint 
system is an overarching part of a system's quality control key to the proper 
function of any system that delivers a service. Participants agreed that a 
well-publicized complaint system that keeps detailed records can identify 
problems with specific providers and identify areas where a specific provider 
or all providers can improve their quality.

3. There Should be a Single Point-of-Entry for Beneficiaries

There should be a single point-of-entry for beneficiaries and anyone else who 
wishes to file a complaint-one number to call regardless of where they live.

The Patient Advocate Link (PAL)
Conferees developed the notion of a PA to help beneficiaries access and work 
through the complaint process.  The PAL would be an outlet for the beneficiary 
for purposes of advice about options or assistance in making preliminary 
inquiries about quality of care concerns and to facilitate provider feedback.

Regulatory Capacity of a "PAL" Single Point-of-Entry Entity
The PAL would not investigate and would not make decisions of right and wrong 
but would make referrals, lis

[QUAD-L] Re: Fwd: Buzzzz...First Ever US Malaria Day

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Marking Malaria Awareness Day

Did you know . . .

--In a phenomenon known as "airport malaria," infected
mosquitoes can be transported to the U.S. by aircraft coming
from malaria-endemic countries?
--Malaria is the single most infectious disease threat to U.S.
troops worldwide?
--Malaria is the biggest killer of children under the age of
five in Africa?

Wednesday, April 25th, is the first ever U.S. Malaria Awareness
Day. Health leaders around the country and the world are
recognizing this day in conjunction with Africa Malaria Day.

To learn more about the lesser-known aspects of malaria, see 26
Things You Probably Don't Know About Malaria
[http://ga3.org/ct/r7SxI371LmHc/] and the Families USA press
release [http://ga3.org/ct/rpSxI371LmHB/] on Malaria Day. 

Families USA has also just completed its Investing in Global
Health Research [http://ga3.org/ct/rdSxI371LmHd/] publication
series, including a fact sheet on malaria. The publications
[http://ga3.org/ct/rdSxI371LmHd/] cover some of the major
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government investment in global health is crucial for
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[QUAD-L] Re: Community Choice Act has 2 new Senate and 2 new House co-sponsors

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2 more in the Senate and in the House have signed on as co-sponsors of the
Community Choice Act

Sen Durbin, Richard [IL] - 4/12/2007
Sen Casey, Robert P., Jr. [PA] - 4/12/2007

Rep DeGette, Diana [CO-1] - 3/29/2007
Rep Visclosky, Peter J. [IN-1] - 3/29/2007

This is a great start but clearly we need to be contacting our Senators and
Representatives to increase these numbers!

NATIONAL ADAPT MAILING LIST - Adapt Community Choice Act List 
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[QUAD-L] Re: For Immediate Release - CMA and NSCLC Announce New Partnership

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 
April 24, 2007

CONTACT:CMA - Attorney Judith Stein
 (860) 456-7790

NSCLC - Christy Ross
 (202) 289-6976, ext. 211


CENTER FOR MEDICARE ADVOCACY AND NATIONAL SENIOR CITIZENS LAW CENTER ANNOUNCE 
NEW "JUSTICE PARTNERSHIP" AFFILIATION AND UPCOMING CONFERENCE

The Center for Medicare Advocacy and the National Senior Citizens Law Center 
announce a new affiliation called the "Justice Partnership". The groups are 
planning a major conference in Washington, DC to focus advocates and 
policymakers on the challenges facing lower income older people and people with 
disabilities. The conference will take place this October.

For two decades the Center for Medicare Advocacy and the National Senior 
Citizens Law Center (NSCLC) have worked together. The two organizations have 
shared histories, interrelated missions, and have successfully collaborated in 
significant litigation, projects, and grants to advance the rights of older 
people and people with disabilities.

The Justice Partnership grows out of a mutual concern that the safety net for 
older Americans, created over the last several decades, is unraveling. By 
collaborating more closely, both organizations will strengthen their ability to 
advance the legal rights of lower-income older people and people with 
disabilities and to ensure fair access to quality health care. The partnership 
comes as Michael Kelly takes the helm as NSCLC's new executive director. 

Kelly says he is excited about this new affiliation, "Together we will be able 
to tackle important work for our clients that neither organization could take 
on alone." Judith Stein, executive director of the Center for Medicare Advocacy 
agrees. "The Justice Partnership will expand our geographic horizons, our 
expertise, and our ability to solve the real problems of real people," says Ms. 
Stein.

In celebration of the National Senior Citizens Law Center's 35th anniversary 
and the Center for Medicare Advocacy's 21st anniversary, the first major 
venture of the Justice Partnership will be a national conference about 
challenges facing lower-income older people.  The conference will be held at 
the Kaiser Family Foundation in Washington, DC on October 19th. It will 
assemble advocates, policy-makers, and academicians to examine creative 
solutions to meet the needs of an aging society.

 


The Center for Medicare Advocacy ( and 
): The Center for Medicare Advocacy works to 
advance fair access to Medicare and health care. The Center is a leading 
national voice for the long-term viability of traditional Medicare, based on 
the real life experiences of the thousands of individuals who contact the 
organization for help   The Center responds to over 6,000 calls and emails each 
year, produces educational and self-help materials, pursues Medicare coverage 
for thousands of individual beneficiaries, provides administrative and 
legislative advocacy,  litigates on behalf of individuals and classes, and 
provides legal support and training for Connecticut's State Health Insurance 
and Assistance program.

The National Senior Citizens Law Center (): NSCLC 
advocates nationwide for the independence and well-being of low-income elderly 
people and others eligible for Medicaid, Medicare and SSI.  NSCLC litigates 
class-action cases to keep open access to health care and income benefits; 
represents the interest of low-income people before Congress and administrative 
agencies; publishes consumer guides on long-term care issues and trains, 
informs and assists other advocates so that low-income elderly and disabled 
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[QUAD-L] Re: Fwd: Thanks for helping make the dream of stopping climate change a reality!

[DAANOO]

What do you think of this site I certainly do not agree with some other  
things they say through the group regarding politics, but this seems  
reasonable.
Dana




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Thank you. Your name has been added to the petition and your comments will be 
delivered to your senators and representatives.

If you want to look at the amazing pictures from Saturday's Step it Up rallies, 
go to http://stepitup2007.org";>http://stepitup2007.org.



Please take a moment to invite your friends and colleagues to sign. You can 
just forward the sample letter below.

Spreading the word is critical, but please only pass this message along to 
those who know you -- spam hurts our campaign.

Thanks for all you do.
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Here's a sample message to send to your friends:

Hi,

I just took action on a petition asking Congress for bold leadership on climate 
change. We need big cuts in our greenhouse gas emissions and they have to 
happen soon. There were almost 1,400 events last weekend to ask for 80% 
reductions by 2050. You can add you voice to the call by clicking on the link 
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[QUAD-L] Re: Fwd: Send Congress a message: Get real on climate change

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Dear MoveOn member,

Last year, a handful of Vermont students started to dream: What if a bunch
of people around the country asked Congress all at once to confront the
defining issue of our time, global climate destabilization? On Saturday,
those students made history, when close to 1,400 communities from coast to
coast participated in the largest day of action ever in the U.S. on
climate change.

Their timing is perfect. The new Democratic House has vowed to pass a
climate change bill by this summer. But for the bill to have real teeth
and withstand the pressure of the Big Oil lobby, all of us must weigh in
now with a clear call for bold, long-term solutions.

Science shows that a commitment now to major cuts in our emissions is the
only way to get ahead of the climate crisis. It is time to think big and
long-term. So send a message to your representatives today: Congress' new
bill on global warming must reduce greenhouse gases by 80% by 2050.
Clicking here will add your name to the petition:

http://pol.moveon.org/stepuponclimatechange/o.pl?id=10212-8044979-hVAhXL&t=4

The best part is that the petition signatures will be hand-delivered to
our representatives' local offices by Step It Up 2007, the folks who
brought you the rallies last Saturday. By gathering lots of signatures, we
can help show that voters want action now on this issue.

The verdict is in--global warming is real and already affecting lives of
people around the world. This spring, communities close to the North Pole
saw something they haven't seen in 5,000 years of unchanged culture--polar
bears and walrus pups drowning in the Arctic sea. With the ice melting,
they can't fish anymore and don't even recognize their homeland.1

These communities are the canaries in the coal mine; it won't be long
until those effects are felt across our nation, threatening coastal cities
and agricultural production. And just yesterday, top retired military
officers called for quick action, highlighting the security threat
represented by global warming.2

But when people are willing to dream, leaders will follow. After decades
of ignoring mounting evidence of our climate crisis, the new Democratic
House will have a climate change bill this year--the only question is,
will it contain bold solutions or a band-aids? Saturday proved we have the
momentum for real change. Now, we just need the political will to go the
distance. People from all walks of life took a simple message to their
communities: the future for our grandchildren in squarely in their hands.
The time is now for our leaders to step up.

Twelve-year old Tiffany Cordero said it best Saturday at a rally in New
York City's Battery Park:

When it comes to global warming, I don't exactly think President Bush is
doing such a hot job. A lot of people are thinking just of now. But we
won't have a 'now' if we don't focus on the future.3

Congress can secure the future now, by making sure any legislation passed
commits to the scientifically proven goals that will turn the tide on
climate change. Congress' new bill on global warming must include a
long-term and bold commitment: Reduce greenhouse gases by 80% by 2050.

Click here to add your name to the call.

http://pol.moveon.org/stepuponclimatechange/o.pl?id=10212-8044979-hVAhXL&t=5

Thanks for all you do.

--Ilyse, Wes, Carrie, Nita and the MoveOn.org Political Action Team
  Wednesday, April 18th, 2007

P.S. Along with serious reductions in greenhouse gases, we've also got to
make sure the biggest polluters don't get a free ride under new
legislation. Big business has made sure that most proposals on the table
include "grandfathered" pollution permits--which means if you're already
polluting, you get to just keep on doing it. It's only fair that every
polluter should pay us, the taxpayers, since the air and atmosphere is a
common resource that belongs to everyone. Grandfathered permits are
basically a multi-billion dollar giveaway to the largest polluters.

Instead of letting these companies get richer by continuing to pollute or
by selling their pollution "rights" to another company, our friends at
Earth Day Network launched a campaign to make sure Congress doesn't go for
it.  Click here to learn more and support their work:

http://www.earthday.net/sky/moveon

Sources:

1. "Climate Warming is Very Real in Arctic" ABC News, April 15th, 2007
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=3043221

2. "Top ex-military leaders call global warming major security risk"
Boston Herald, April 15, 2007
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2512&id=10212-8044979-hVAhXL&t=7

3. "Global Warming Protests Begin Saturday" Forbes, April 14, 2007
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/04/14/ap3613014.html

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[QUAD-L] Re: Obstructionist Senators block Medicare Prescription Drug Negotiation bill

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Please call your senators that voted against this bill, to fight big drug  
companies to negotiate lower prices.  If you senator voted nay, please call  
his 
office to let him know how disappointed you are!
 
Dana



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Dear Dana.

America's seniors and taxpayers lost out today when a minority
of Senators used a procedural motion to block a bill to give
Medicare the power to negotiate with powerful drug companies and
get lower prices for seniors. 

When the vote was completed, 55 Senators had voted to allow
Medicare to negotiate lower drug prices and 42 had voted to
preserve the considerable profits of drug companies rather than
relieve a burden from the shoulders of millions of older
Americans. Alas, 60 votes were needed to allow floor action.

The good news is that, thanks to the outpouring from millions of
Americans around the country, a MAJORITY of Senators now support
Medicare negotiation. THANK YOU for your phone calls to the
Senators! Unfortunately, on this day, the big drug companies'
lobbying prevailed. 

Click here [http://ga3.org/ct/M1SxI3711XTp/] to see how your
Senator voted. (Please note that, after it was clear the measure
would fail, Majority Leader Harry Reid switched his vote to Nay
to preserve his option, under arcane Senate rules, to bring the
bill back to the Floor to reconsider at a later time.) 

This issue is far from dead. Not by a long shot. 

In order to arm yourself going forward, Families USA released
some new data today. Click here
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WHAT YOU CAN DO: If either or both of your Senators voted Nay,
call their offices at 1-800-828-0498 to tell them how
disappointed you are. 

Background

Currently, the government is prohibited from using the
bargaining power of 43 million Americans in Medicare to
negotiate with pharmaceutical companies for lower drug prices.
Earlier this year, the House of Representatives passed a bill to
give the government the option to do just that. This was the
Senate's turn to "just say no" to the drug companies but a
minority of Senators was able to block the bill.

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Re: [QUAD-L] Re-: new technologies and patents towards SCI repair

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The  article on the three proteins enhancing the growth of the nerve axons is 
 interesting.  I am also hopeful, I just wish more funding would go  towards 
research and clinical trials would take less time.  The nervous  system is the 
most complicated system of the human body!
Debbie
C4/April  2005



Have you read about some of the other protocols being considered:
 
4AP
Botox
Bee Venom
 
Best Wishes
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[QUAD-L] Re-: new technologies and patents towards SCI repair

[Debbie Hamilton]

The article on the three proteins enhancing the growth of the nerve axons is 
interesting.  I am also hopeful, I just wish more funding would go towards 
research and clinical trials would take less time.  The nervous system is the 
most complicated system of the human body!
Debbie
C4/April 2005

   
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[QUAD-L] Re: [DisabledOfAmerica] *Miracle Diet Secret**^^

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Has anyone ever tried this?  It really sounds interesting!  I  would try but 
I don't really have little anyone to try it for me other than my  mother and 
she's not feeling well.
Dana
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Re: FW: [QUAD-L] Re: Caffeine and protein/tubing

[LINDA FERRELL]

I manage my output the same as you with a 4000cc UD Bag, my output is usally 
over 2500cc. I have more output during the evening & night. 
Lindaf

Re: FW: [QUAD-L] Re: Caffeine and protein/tubing

[Quadius]

Just curious Linda, how do you manage your urine output?  I wear a 4000 CC
bad bag and often drink about one leader just prior to going to sleep.  In
the morning my urine output is usually around 3750 cc.  It seems that I put
out a considerable amount of urine once I am in a recombinant position.
Thanks,
Quadius

On 4/3/07, LINDA FERRELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 I have used the aqua tubing for years now, since moving into my apt. My
friend attached a flexable tubing to a block of wood & attached the wooden
block to the head of my bed. The flexable tubing I got from radio shack & is
hollow, so he ran the tubing from my insulated gallon jug(from WalMart) thru
the flexable tubing then he taped a thin wire to the tubing which makes it
easy to bend straight to my mouth so I can drink all thru the night. I drink
quite a bit of water during the evening & night.

Lindaf

Fwd: FW: [QUAD-L] Re: Caffeine and protein/tubing

[DAANOO]

I have always wondered the same thing.  My mom tries to clean them  with pipe 
cleaners, but it really doesn't help much.  I thought maybe it  was because I 
drink diet caffeine free pop and decaf tea and water.
It is so gross and sometimes it gives you a big piece of black gob in your  
mouth..  I just have to order new straws quite often.
 
I thought maybe it was caused from sugar substitute.
Dana
I'm glad  someone else mentioned that they had the same  problem!



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--- Begin Message ---
 I had a few long drinking straws--about 2 feet or so long,  I used to use 
fairly often but they got yucky black mold inside of them Have any of you 
had that problem??? perhaps constant use or cleaning may prevent the mold 
issue...i'm not sure .   Dan H.

LINDA FERRELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I have used the aqua tubing 
for years now, since moving into my apt. My friend attached a flexable tubing 
to a block of wood & attached the wooden block to the head of my bed. The 
flexable tubing I got from radio shack & is hollow, so he ran the tubing from 
my insulated gallon jug(from WalMart) thru the flexable tubing then he taped a 
thin wire to the tubing which makes it easy to bend straight to my mouth so I 
can drink all thru the night. I drink quite a bit of water during the evening & 
night.
  Lindaf


--- End Message ---

Re: FW: [QUAD-L] Re: Caffeine and protein/tubing

[Danny Hearn]

 I had a few long drinking straws--about 2 feet or so long,  I used to use 
fairly often but they got yucky black mold inside of them Have any of you 
had that problem??? perhaps constant use or cleaning may prevent the mold 
issue...i'm not sure .   Dan H.

LINDA FERRELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I have used the aqua tubing 
for years now, since moving into my apt. My friend attached a flexable tubing 
to a block of wood & attached the wooden block to the head of my bed. The 
flexable tubing I got from radio shack & is hollow, so he ran the tubing from 
my insulated gallon jug(from WalMart) thru the flexable tubing then he taped a 
thin wire to the tubing which makes it easy to bend straight to my mouth so I 
can drink all thru the night. I drink quite a bit of water during the evening & 
night.
  Lindaf

Re: FW: [QUAD-L] Re: Caffeine and protein/tubing

[LINDA FERRELL]

I have used the aqua tubing for years now, since moving into my apt. My friend 
attached a flexable tubing to a block of wood & attached the wooden block to 
the head of my bed. The flexable tubing I got from radio shack & is hollow, so 
he ran the tubing from my insulated gallon jug(from WalMart) thru the flexable 
tubing then he taped a thin wire to the tubing which makes it easy to bend 
straight to my mouth so I can drink all thru the night. I drink quite a bit of 
water during the evening & night.
Lindaf

Re: FW: [QUAD-L] Re: Caffeine and protein

[Bill_J]

Any pet supply store or you can order it online at www.petsmart.com .

Bill age 56
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Leesburg, FL
Try something different: put a live chicken in your underwear.
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:26 PM
  Subject: Re: FW: [QUAD-L] Re: Caffeine and protein


  Where do you find you it, Billy?

  Thank you.
  DaThe plastic tubing used in aquariums works great as a long straw. I've used 
  it for years.


  >From: "Billy Kimberlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  >To: quad-list@eskimo.com
  >Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: Caffeine and protein
  >Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:27:12 -0500
  >



  I try to drink regular water the majority of the time, but I do drink
  carbonated water. I really do not think it depletes the calcium from my
  body, considering my bone density test showed that I have more density now
  than I did five years ago, but I do take calcium as a daily supplement.
  Additionally, I have had a problem with a bladder stones and it could have
  been caused by the amount of Mountain Dew I was drinking or possibly a
  carbonated water. I usually try not to drink more than one liter of
  carbonated water daily.
  Quadius
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]<http://mail.google.com/ym/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]&YY=88501&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=up&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b>wrote:
  Billy, What kind of water do you drink? Does carbonation deplete your
  body of calcium. I was told that by someone. I drink way too much Fresca or
  Sprite. I was trying to drink water for a few weeks and I just don't like it
  except at night. I drink a lot of raspberry herbal tea also. I was surprised
  for my hygienist told me that herbal tea does stain your teeth. I know we
  are supposed to drink a lot of water. I usually up late drink at night if I
  am hot. I use a 2 gallon thermos with three long straws put together with
  rubber tubing I use for my bed bag to make it longer for my water bed and my
  wheelchair. I can't stand water without a lot of ice.. A friend from the
  Internet with M.D. told me to use some kind that tubing from refrigerators,
  I didn't quite know what he was talking about. I will have to ask again for
  further clarification. I hope you're feeling better after your illness. I
  thought I was getting sick last night, because I got congested and had to be
  suction twice and take a breathing treatment but I was fine today, I guess
  it was the rain.

  na





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Re: FW: [QUAD-L] Re: Caffeine and protein

[DAANOO]

Where do you find you it, Billy?
 
Thank you.
DaThe  plastic tubing used in aquariums works great as a long straw. I've 
used 
it  for years.


>From: "Billy Kimberlin"  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: quad-list@eskimo.com
>Subject:  [QUAD-L] Re: Caffeine and protein
>Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:27:12  -0500
>



I try to drink regular water the majority of the  time, but I do drink
carbonated water. I really do not think it depletes the  calcium from my
body, considering my bone density test showed that I have  more density now
than I did five years ago, but I do take calcium as a daily  supplement.
Additionally, I have had a problem with a bladder stones and it  could have
been caused by the amount of Mountain Dew I was drinking or  possibly a
carbonated water. I usually try not to drink more than one liter  of
carbonated water  daily.
Quadius
[EMAIL PROTECTED]<http://mail.google.com/ym/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&YY=88501&y5
beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=up&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b>wrote:
Billy,  What kind of water do you drink? Does carbonation deplete your
body of  calcium. I was told that by someone. I drink way too much Fresca or
Sprite. I  was trying to drink water for a few weeks and I just don't like it
except at  night. I drink a lot of raspberry herbal tea also. I was surprised
for my  hygienist told me that herbal tea does stain your teeth. I know we
are  supposed to drink a lot of water. I usually up late drink at night if I
am  hot. I use a 2 gallon thermos with three long straws put together with
rubber  tubing I use for my bed bag to make it longer for my water bed and  my
wheelchair. I can't stand water without a lot of ice.. A friend from  the
Internet with M.D. told me to use some kind that tubing from  refrigerators,
I didn't quite know what he was talking about. I will have to  ask again for
further clarification. I hope you're feeling better after your  illness. I
thought I was getting sick last night, because I got congested and  had to be
suction twice and take a breathing treatment but I was fine today,  I guess
it was the rain.

na



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FW: [QUAD-L] Re: Caffeine and protein

[William Willis]

The plastic tubing used in aquariums works great as a long straw. I've used 
it for years.




From: "Billy Kimberlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Re: Caffeine and protein
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:27:12 -0500




I try to drink regular water the majority of the time, but I do drink
carbonated water. I really do not think it depletes the calcium from my
body, considering my bone density test showed that I have more density now
than I did five years ago, but I do take calcium as a daily supplement.
Additionally, I have had a problem with a bladder stones and it could have
been caused by the amount of Mountain Dew I was drinking or possibly a
carbonated water. I usually try not to drink more than one liter of
carbonated water daily.
Quadius
[EMAIL PROTECTED]<http://mail.google.com/ym/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]&YY=88501&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=up&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b>wrote:
Billy, What kind of water do you drink? Does carbonation deplete your
body of calcium. I was told that by someone. I drink way too much Fresca or
Sprite. I was trying to drink water for a few weeks and I just don't like it
except at night. I drink a lot of raspberry herbal tea also. I was surprised
for my hygienist told me that herbal tea does stain your teeth. I know we
are supposed to drink a lot of water. I usually up late drink at night if I
am hot. I use a 2 gallon thermos with three long straws put together with
rubber tubing I use for my bed bag to make it longer for my water bed and my
wheelchair. I can't stand water without a lot of ice.. A friend from the
Internet with M.D. told me to use some kind that tubing from refrigerators,
I didn't quite know what he was talking about. I will have to ask again for
further clarification. I hope you're feeling better after your illness. I
thought I was getting sick last night, because I got congested and had to be
suction twice and take a breathing treatment but I was fine today, I guess
it was the rain.

[QUAD-L] Re: The real truth about Walter Reed AMC

[Billy Kimberlin]

 As far as medical care goes I don't recall hearing any
complaints about the actual inpatient care at Walter Reed
Hospital. The majority of the problems mentioned in the
initial report were about building 18, but I do believe (since I
haven't read it in quite some time) that there was also
serious complaints by soldiers and veterans about the mountain
of bureaucracy they face once they are on outpatient care.
I additionally believe that they later started to cover how
they are concerned about the precarious state in which the
VA could find itself if additional funding is provided.
 One caveat: don't attack me because I am only going by
what I heard in a barrage of media coverage. I didn't have an
opportunity to read much over the last six weeks as I have
been ill.
 Just my two cents
 Quadius

[QUAD-L] Re: Caffeine and protein

[Billy Kimberlin]

I try to drink regular water the majority of the time, but I do drink
carbonated water. I really do not think it depletes the calcium from my
body, considering my bone density test showed that I have more density now
than I did five years ago, but I do take calcium as a daily supplement.
Additionally, I have had a problem with a bladder stones and it could have
been caused by the amount of Mountain Dew I was drinking or possibly a
carbonated water. I usually try not to drink more than one liter of
carbonated water daily.
Quadius
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Billy, What kind of water do you drink? Does carbonation deplete your
body of calcium. I was told that by someone. I drink way too much Fresca or
Sprite. I was trying to drink water for a few weeks and I just don't like it
except at night. I drink a lot of raspberry herbal tea also. I was surprised
for my hygienist told me that herbal tea does stain your teeth. I know we
are supposed to drink a lot of water. I usually up late drink at night if I
am hot. I use a 2 gallon thermos with three long straws put together with
rubber tubing I use for my bed bag to make it longer for my water bed and my
wheelchair. I can't stand water without a lot of ice.. A friend from the
Internet with M.D. told me to use some kind that tubing from refrigerators,
I didn't quite know what he was talking about. I will have to ask again for
further clarification. I hope you're feeling better after your illness. I
thought I was getting sick last night, because I got congested and had to be
suction twice and take a breathing treatment but I was fine today, I guess
it was the rain.

[QUAD-L] Re: [spinalresource] Acupuncture for SCI

[delimited4]

I tried accupuncture about 19 years ago. I didn't expect any improvement in my 
paralasys and the doctor assured me he had no miracle treatment for a damaged 
spinal cord. He did try treating my pain. It had no effect at all. It didn't 
hurt anything, but it didn't help anything. It did cost me $45 and I did have 
some high hopes. He even did a treatment to help my bowels move better. Nada, 
zip, zilch, nothing. I'm sure it works wonders for folks with too much money in 
their wallet.
 
john
 
it may help someone but it didn't help me is all.
 
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 9:30 PM
Subject: [spinalresource] Acupuncture for SCI


Has anyone had acupuncture as a treatment for SCI? If so what was your 
experience? Has anyone heard stories of people using acupuncture?

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[QUAD-L] re: H/C PARKING

[WyldKat01]

I would not wait til the last minute to seek help. Can you go to the zoning  
commission and see if they will help. Get your facts together in advance, 
maybe  ask for a continuance of the case. 
 
In my son's case we never use the H/C spaces unless there are several  vacant 
because of the lift..it lets down and spots are never large enough to  allow 
for room to get him off the lift.Then when you return  someone has  usually 
parked beside you  and you are stuck.
 
What we usually do is  drive along side where he needs to get out and  then 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Re: (Quad-L) House against Grey's Anatomy tonight at 7 p.m.!

[wheelchair]

 
I think that they are both repeats, repeats. repeats.  (lol)
W
 
 
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I see where it is on tonight at 7 p.m. on Fox against Grey's Anatomy on  ABC. 
 I love both shows.
 
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[QUAD-L] Re: (Quad-L) House against Grey's Anatomy tonight at 7 p.m.!

[DAANOO]

I see where it is on tonight at 7 p.m. on Fox against Grey's Anatomy on  ABC. 
 I love both shows.
 
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[QUAD-L] Re: poll

[Oconnelldb]

 
Chalk another  one up to the trampoline - cheerleader tramp, front summie, 
landed on my feet,  whiplashed my neck between c3 and c4, may of '67.  now i 
see 
the  trampolines coming back to the olympics - too bad we just can't learn 
from  history.
dave
 
 
 
 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:10 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Poll


I would just like to know what caused members of this message  board to 
become quadriplegics or paraplegics?
 
I became a quadriplegic due to an illness that affects the  spinal cord 
(Transverse Myelitis), July 2, 2005  

Naomi
C-4 quad since July 2,  2005
Transverse Myelitis


 
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