Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
I found here battery - without RC. http://www.batteryupgrade.ro/shopBrowser.php?shopGroupId=24340791#/shopGroupId/24340791 -- isr2002 isr2002's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43464 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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mooro;653319 Wrote: I brought one from the states, delivered for under £20. Batterybay.net, item code CS-LSR533RC. ($30 total). Hi Mooro, How is the battery pack performing and how long did it take from ordering to delivery. Cheers -- andy7 andy7's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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By chance I a saw a crate full of them at 'media markt' the Hague, nl. Strange that the shop where I initially bought the squeezebox radio never bothered to e-mail me about the batteries FINALLY becoming available. 25 Euro (36 USD). It looks like a small bomb: A bunch of batteries taped up with black tape, with some wires and a connector sticking out. Don't try to do air travel with this one! The ugly black clump can just be squeezed into the belly of the radio after mating the connector with the radio. It comes with a whole book full of incomprehensible instructions in a zillion languages. After throwing these into the bin, I just switched the radio on. It nicely detected the presence of the battery pack. It's a bit unusual, and perhaps not best for battery life to be stored fully charged?, but the pack was already fully charged at purchase. 36 USD for a couple of taped batteries is a bit on the high side, even for European high tax zones. However, at the bottom of the box, I found a small remote control unit. Whooo! Now I can switch stations, also when my PC is not running?. Wrong. The remote control unit is made by people who never knew what to use it for, or why to add it and never tried to use it themselves: The small unit can up or down sound. Switch on or off. But it can't select station on the radio! The remote control can, however, be used to navigate the menu on the screen. What's the point of that?? The screen on the radio is so small that you nearly need to hold the radio in your hand to see what you are doing. With the radio that close to your face, a remote control has no use? I suppose the remote control unit is just a quick fix to justify the package price, more than anything else. At least I could take out the small battery and re-use it in my car keys. Careful, there is a gadget failure hall of fame. This remote control could be a modest contender there http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=pogue-the-gadget-failure-hall-of-fame Tried a couple of recharge cycles. Works fine 4-5 hours on a charge, which is fine for an afternoon in the garden, paint work in the garage, etc. The radio nicely detects and show re-charging of the battery when back on power. It could probably run more hours on battery, if the radio display could dim and cool off, when playing on battery. OVERALL ASSESSMENT Battery operated mobility of the radio is now finally available. The battery pack is a bit expensive, but it fills the long standing gap nicely. The remote control unit included is useless and rather unnerving. -- uffe uffe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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notatoad;626323 Wrote: big thanks to the OP for making a kit available. makes things much easier for noobs like myself. i just ordered some generic AAs off ebay at $6/dozen. they claim to be 3000mAh NiMH. it'll be fun to put a multimeter on them and see what they're like. what are the odds of crappy batteries actually frying my squeezebox? The biggest risk I suspect with NiMH rather than LiON batteries is their leaking and causing corrosion. They could also overheat when charging but it would have to be quite extreme to do damage. There is always a tiny risk of explosion but NiMH are much much more stable than laptop batteries. I would say though that the overall risk is low but crap batteries are generally crap they don't hold charge long and don't last many charge cycles. You may well be replacing them sooner than you thought. -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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notatoad;626323 Wrote: i just ordered some generic AAs off ebay at $6/dozen. they claim to be 3000mAh NiMH. it'll be fun to put a multimeter on them and see what they're like. what are the odds of crappy batteries actually frying my squeezebox? Crappy batteries aren't likely to fry a Squeezebox, as AAs don't put out much voltage. They just won't power the Squeezebox for very long. -- TiredLegs TiredLegs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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aw crap, for some reason i was thinking that NiMH were the preferred battery. oh well, it's only $6. -- notatoad notatoad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45818 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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They are, LiON require very much more precise charging circuits and wouldn't be as easy to swap out as NiMH. The built in charging of the radio wouldn't work with them. Its just that cheap ones are usually knock offs that don't last long. Quality NiMH batteries are worth the extra cost. -- Jaicee Jaicee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45802 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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big thanks to the OP for making a kit available. makes things much easier for noobs like myself. i just ordered some generic AAs off ebay at $6/dozen. they claim to be 3000mAh NiMH. it'll be fun to put a multimeter on them and see what they're like. what are the odds of crappy batteries actually frying my squeezebox? -- notatoad notatoad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45818 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I just finished building my pack using the Sanyo 2700 mAh batteries listed above. Seems to work great. My first test yielded a playing time of 10 hours 49 minutes (streaming FLACs). Charging took several hours. Interestingly, the pack slowly heated to 45C which triggered forced a pause in the charging. Afterwards, the pack fully charged. I've read that the charging circuit / algorithm is pretty smart and I believe it! Pictures and such are here: http://www.cuttingthebills.com/2011/03/diy-high-capacity-battery-pack-for.html Loving the truly portable radio so far! George -- mrthreeplates mrthreeplates's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=565 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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For what it's worth, the cheapest US source I could find for the Sanyo 2700mah batteries that I could find (incl tax and shipping to CA) was: http://www.bestbyte.net/merchant/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODStore_Code=BBProduct_Code=BARESAAA27Category_Code= Worked out to about $3.10 per battery shipped. I also looked at the LSD 2000mah 2nd generation Sanyo Eneloop's here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00478GE1U/ie=UTF8m=AMEAQY81R6T0Z The 16 pack is more than I need, but these are good batteries to have around the house and the price per battery (shipped) is good at $2.50. I eventually decided against the LSD (Low Self-Discharge) models because I figured the odds of me leaving the unit unplugged for great lengths of time are really low. I'd much rather have the extended battery time for this application. Otherwise, the LSD batteries look like GREAT choices for general use. I decided on Sanyo because they seemed to have the best reputation and real world test results. I could have gone with much cheaper batteries, but I figured it just wasn't worth saving $10 to risk getting an inferior battery (especially after going through the trouble of soldering it up). I also couldn't find a pre-made Sanyo pack that was nearly as cheap (although that would have been awesome). Finally, while I could have gotten batteries with flat tops and/or solder tabs, I would have had to choose a non-Sanyo brand. Anyway, batteries and kit are ordered --- Hope it all works out. I'll be careful assembling it and it should be fun. The only thing I'm worried about is the charging properties of the batteries that I've chosen. Hopefully the charging circuit, software and thermistor will have that all covered. BTW: I've read that the original Logitech battery has a fuse in it. I don't see that part reference in the kit. Anyone have any info on it? Or, has anyone taken apart the Logitech battery to confirm the other parts / wiring diagram? I'd love to see info on this if someone is willing to post it! Thanks, George -- mrthreeplates mrthreeplates's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=565 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
I currently have these slow-discharge batteries: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003M0PR6W Been working great for a couple of months now. -- Henry66 Henry66's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38863 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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A mate of mine has just picked up a Radio from Ebay with an 18V PSU. Does this mean it's a very early unit will the official 12V battery pack work in it? -- rbz5416 rbz5416's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12089 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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On 01/30/2011 10:08 AM, rbz5416 wrote: Seems that Strikalite now sell a built pack for the Radio. http://www.strikalite.co.uk/viewproduct.asp?from=sresults.aspprodid=881catid=20cat=Specialist%20Battery%20Packssearch=881offset= I'd love to hear of someone who has gambled and bought one. The copy on that site shows that they have no idea what a SqueezeBox Radio is. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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@agillis: Thank you, I have ordered two of your kits. I am now picking out the batteries. The Sanyo 2700mah cells seem to really be the best choice. I have found confirmation on these from a couple of sources: - http://www.chip.de/artikel/Megatest-Akkus-fuer-Digicams-und-MP3-Player-AA-AAA-5_29020749.html - http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=79302p=920843#post920843 I am now contemplating whether to buy this: http://www.onlybatterypacks.com/showitem.asp?ItemID=12122 or these and build my own: http://store.batteriesamerica.com/hr-3u2700sanyo-brandultra-long-liferechargeableni-mhbatteries-2700mahcapacity.aspx I found Sanyo cells cheaper elsewhere but they did not have the solder tab option included. I have the following questions if someone can help: - Does anyone know if that above linked pack comes with a thermistor, so the only work would be swapping connectors? - If it does come with a thermistor, could it be the wrong one or would that not be a concern. - If it is the wrong one would replacing it with the one which is coming in the kits I ordered be more work than is worth it? Thank you all for your opinions/feedback. I really appreciate the help given in this thread. Now that the kits are on there way I am eager to get a finished product and am not too picky about how I accomplish it. Your guidance is appreciated. Cheers, orGSD -- chGSD chGSD's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42013 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
Perhaps if one was somewhat inclined to ask a favour of a US resident forum member to purchase a battery on their behalf... ;) Though the way this thread is degenerating it may take an awful lot of groveling and trust -- drewe181 Slim Devices Squeezebox 3 Logitech Squeezebox Touch Logitech Squeezebox Radio FLAC FLAC and more FLAC http://www.studionika.com.au drewe181's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8129 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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chGSD;594223 Wrote: While waiting for the smallgreencomputer.com kit to return to stock, I have been looking for existing packs which would yield a more professional looking result. Nice post. You have done a lot of research. The battery kits are back in stock. http://shop.smallgreencomputer.com/SqueezeBox-Radio-Battery-Kit-squeezepack.htm -- agillis rip, tag, get cover art All you do is insert the CD! http://vortexbox.org agillis Lead Developer VortexBox agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Would someone who has received the Logitech battery pack please measure the voltage on the two battery tap pins relative to the ground pin, on a charged battery pack? -- John Stimson John Stimson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=218 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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My interest in building my own battery pack has stemmed not from the elevated price of the Logitech one, nor the scarce availability of it over time. Rather it has stemmed from the desire to have a longer unplugged duration so that it could be treated more like a power hungry smartphone that gets unplugged in the morning and then goes back to being charged at night. Truthfully wireless gadgetry is attractive to me to keep less cables out of the reach of the baby. Hence a long unplugged duration whilst he is out of his crib is attractive. Most users with home built 2100mah packs seem to claim 10h vs. the 6h of the factory pack. Using the same math as well as the math from the german website linked throughout this post, a 2700mah pack could possibly garner 13h which would be just about perfect for me. While waiting for the smallgreencomputer.com kit to return to stock, I have been looking for existing packs which would yield a more professional looking result. The previously linked Tenergy 12V pack seems to have been reduced to 2000mah as opposed to 2300mah which some were receiving: http://www.all-battery.com/12v2000mahnimhbatterypack11606.aspx This 12V 2600mah pack seems to be too large despite being composed of AA: http://www.all-battery.com/12v2600mahnimhbatterypack11620.aspx (I have contacted them to confirm their measurements) I found this with thermistor already included, but only 2200mah: http://www.batteryspace.com/customizenimhbattery12v2200mahwiththermistor10xaa.aspx And this one seems off by a few mm: http://www.batteryspace.com/browseproducts/Customized-LiFePO4-Li-Ion-Module--12V-2700-mAh-(32.4Wh--4S2P-Rectangle-Pack--7A-rate-)-with-PCB.HTML The best pre-made I have found so far is this one: http://www.onlybatterypacks.com/showitem.asp?ItemID=12122 Sanyo 2700mah cells, which is what I was contemplating using myself. Best price on those Sanyo cells I have found is here: http://www.batteryjunction.com/sanyo-aa-2700.html (Would be about $32.5 pre-shipping for the right quantity) So only really a $20 savings over buying the pre-made pack from onlybatterypacks.com Keeping in mind that the idea of solving this for $50-$75 is fine by me, what are the best options for having the longest lasting solution which would still fit within the battery cavity for a clean solution? I am attaching to this post what I have gathered as the battery cavity dimensions of the SB Radio that I have. Thanks everyone for all the information provided in this thread already, I know it will be invaluable when it comes time to actually assembling whatever I settle for. Cheers, chGSD Post Scriptum: I realize the Logitech kit comes with a remote, but from what I have read it is pretty useless compared to the android apps available, which are working quite well for me at the moment. +---+ |Filename: squeezebox_battery_compartment_w_notes.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10961| +---+ -- chGSD chGSD's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42013 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I am on SB Radio Firmware 7.5.1 r8837. I think when I originally applied it I had some of those problems. I then forced another update from the menu and fixed those problems. I use mine with Squeezebox Server. I don't see a way to tell the SBR to connect to mysqueezebox.com in the menu... -- earthbased earthbased's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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earthbased;567562 Wrote: I am on SB Radio Firmware 7.5.1 r8837. I think when I originally applied it I had some of those problems. I then forced another update from the menu and fixed those problems. I use mine with Squeezebox Server. I don't see a way to tell the SBR to connect to mysqueezebox.com in the menu... If it's like other SB players, on the radio itself, select settingshome menu and scroll down and you can see the switch to mysb.com item. Add this to your home menu. But if you're running SbS, why would you ever want to switch to mysb.com. SbS does everything mysb.com does (sometimes better) plus plays your own music. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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ciarmer;567047 Wrote: (snip) I then went off on a rant and also mentioned the Firmware 7.5.1 issue which he was in no mood to hear about. After all that he asked me if there was anything else he could help me with. I thought to myself anything else? exactly what have you helped me with? (snip) What is the 7.5.1 problem? -- earthbased earthbased's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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earthbased;567361 Wrote: What is the 7.5.1 problem? Lots of problems when using Mysqueezebox.com. They include the radio turning off shortly after turn on, turning on randomly, art not updating, tons of alarm problems, etc. Best way to see the issues is to do a search specific to the SB Radio form with a search term 7.5.1. My understanding (or I should say hope) is that the next firmware upgrade will fix many of these problems. -- ciarmer ciarmer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37631 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Soulkeeper;566307 Wrote: I ordered the accessory pack a little less than a month ago. Just now I got a shipment confirmation. Yay! :) The pack has been delivered at my house now. But one thing that would've been nice to know, before I get home, is: earthbased;566870 Wrote: Does the SB Radio have a good battery charging monitor circuit to intelligently charge the battery pack or will the pack wear out quickly if the user doesn't follow a strict battery management protocol when running on AC power for days/weeks forgetting battery pack is installed? I want my battery to last. If the inbuilt Radio charger is dumb, I'll even consider waiting with installing the battery until I really need it. -- Soulkeeper Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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The Radio has a huge amount of code to deal with smartly charging the battery, so don't worry about that. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Alright, thanks! Then I'll pop it in right away. :) -- Soulkeeper Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Does the SB Radio have a good battery charging monitor circuit to intelligently charge the battery pack or will the pack wear out quickly if the user doesn't follow a strict battery management protocol when running on AC power for days/weeks forgetting battery pack is installed? Any heat issues? -- earthbased earthbased's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Here is my experience ordering the battery pack (I'm in the US) July 21 - Ordered my battery pack. The site said pre-order now but when I added the battery to my cart, it said in stock. I thought I got lucky. My Paypal account was charged the same day. July 23 - Order status - in process July 26 - Order status - in process. I call Logitech. They tell me they got some out but they are out of stock again but expecting more. August 4 (yesterday)- Went to the Logitech site. Order status - in process. The order page shows it as pre-order now. For kicks, I added another one to the cart and it said in stock. At that point, I got annoyed and called them again. Gentleman told me it was out of stock. I asked why they charged my account if it is out of stock. His response is That's the way paypal works; if you had used a charge card, we would not have charged your card until it was shipped. I then asked why the site says in stock when you put the pack in your cart - isn't that misleading. He said no; you should have believed the order page which said pre-order now rather than adding it to your cart. I told him he must be kidding but he wasn't. He then tells me they are expecting more by the end of August but there is a backlog and it is possible that even when they come in, I may not get one. I then went off on a rant and also mentioned the Firmware 7.5.1 issue which he was in no mood to hear about. After all that he asked me if there was anything else he could help me with. I thought to myself anything else? exactly what have you helped me with? August 5 (today)- Notification that battery has shipped!!! Coincidence? I really don't know. Site still says pre-order now. What a strange way to provide customer service. -- ciarmer ciarmer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37631 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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newy;565971 Wrote: Yet another glorious summer day here in Toronto yet still no SB Radio outdoor listening pleasure due to no batteries being sold in Canada. Pretty pathetic that I have to ask this question here but would anyone be willing to buy me one and ship it up here? Obviously I'd prepay you for your troubles. Let me know. Thanks! Check your PMs. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I ordered the accessory pack a little less than a month ago. Just now I got a shipment confirmation. Yay! :) -- Soulkeeper Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Yet another glorious summer day here in Toronto yet still no SB Radio outdoor listening pleasure due to no batteries being sold in Canada. Pretty pathetic that I have to ask this question here but would anyone be willing to buy me one and ship it up here? Obviously I'd prepay you for your troubles. Let me know. Thanks! -- newy newy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Ordered 3 batteries in May - just came! Happy to have them installed. I have 6 SB Radios now. -- rcampbel3 rcampbel3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Got it today 7/27. Ordered on 5/19. Woohoo! -- diannabill diannabill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38082 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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mherger;564359 Wrote:
FWIW (and quite OT here...): I was about to put an announcements to
the
beginner's forum (probably others too), telling people clearly about
those
new forums. They're official support channels, monitored by support
people, while this here (forums.slimdevices.com) is community based.
Might be a good idea, I think it would be great for everyone if people
knew where to raise different kind of issues.
It would also be great to have an announcement or sticky thread which
we could refer users to when we realize that they have posted stuff in
the wrong place.
MickeyG;564528 Wrote:
I plan on being here too.
Thanks Michael, Mickey and all the other Logitech employees
participating on these forum, we really appreciate that you continue to
support this community even though other parts of Logitech might not
have realized its potential yet.
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So what's the deal with Canada? I've been reading a lot of posts that the battery isn't available in Canada. Does Logitech offer any kind of explanation? Just read up on this thread, a few postings before yours. Logitech Canada decided it's not worth it. You'll have to let _them_ know they're wrong. Not this forum, not support, but some Logitech Canada representative. They only believe in numbers. If _they_ have a number of complaints, it might help. -- Michael ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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This is a perfect (and very sad) example of what long time SlimDevices customers feared when Logitech purchased SlimDevices. Logitech is a behemoth corporation that seems to stumble over itself to make anything squeeze related a confusing mess. The simple solution to the Canada situation is to allow Canadian customers to purchase any SqueezeBox items directly from the US if that item is not available in Canada. PITA for Logitech? You bet. Hopefully enough of a PITA to force Logitech Canada to PROPERLY support their customers and stock their own friggin products! Especially if it's a promised add-on (battery pack) to the main item (Radio) that *IS* currently available in Canada. If the entire Radio itself were not available in Canada then I'd understand Logitech Canada's position. This whole thing makes about as much sense as Logitech selling printers in Canada, but then not making replacement ink cartridges available in Canada for said printers. Complete and utter silliness and stupidity. For PR purposes alone Logitech should fix this ridiculous situation! They look like a bunch of bumbling morons at a flea market stand than anything even *remotely* like a technology company. NOTE: My above comments are related solely to Logitech marketing logistics, unrelated to the SqueezeBox development team. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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If the entire Radio itself were not available in Canada then I'd understand Logitech Canada's position. +1 on that. -- newy newy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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newy;564202 Wrote: If the entire Radio itself were not available in Canada then I'd understand Logitech Canada's position. +1 on that. As a Canadian who owns a Radio, not being able to buy the battery is a pain. Now that Michael says they won't be selling them in Canada I may build my own but I wanted a Logitech battery in part because I have purchased a radio for my kids- for peace of mind I would prefer the Logitech branded battery. I can't even buy a Touch from Logitech Canada, so I am not really surprised that they can't get it together to sell the battery. I am going to do as Michael suggests and complain loudly to Logitech Canada. -- johnas johnas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Maybe we're just arguing semantics ... but As I see it Logitech Canada advertised this neat product: radio + battery pack. Great. I go to the store to buy it. Battery not quite ready I'm told. I don't want to go away empty handed so I buy the radio. Now Logitech Canada reveals they never did and never will sell the product, radio + battery, for which I went to their store in the first place. Why does this not meet your own definition of bait and switch? -- albright albright's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35256 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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albright;564221 Wrote: Maybe we're just arguing semantics ... but...Why does this not meet your own definition of bait and switch? As was mentioned earlier, bait and switch requires them to advertise a product to lure you in to sell you another product instead. I agree this is a dirty trick and false advertising, but I don't think it is bait and switch. Semantics? Yes. The result is the same. Lots of unhappy Canadian and U.S. customers. More like Dump and Run than Bait and Switch -- diannabill diannabill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38082 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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And don't believe for one minute that someone from Logitech isn't monitoring this forum. -- diannabill diannabill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38082 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Aagh!!! -- newy newy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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a product that they may not even have in order to sell you another product instead. I feel that the radio+battery is the product they advertised but did not have. They got me to switch to just radio (with their trickery about the battery being available March 2010 - still on the Canadian website). It is the moral equivalent if not the legal equivalent of bait and switch. -- albright albright's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35256 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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diannabill;564229 Wrote: And don't believe FOR ONE MINUTE that Logitech staff is not monitoring this forum. I see no reason to believe that Logitech Canada sales or upper level Logitech global staff are reading this forum. SCREAM AWAY! Please don't. The vast majority of users here can't help you at all, so screaming will only make these forums unpleasant for others. Scream at Logitech if you want, but not here. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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peterw;564248 Wrote: I see no reason to believe that Logitech Canada sales or upper level Logitech global staff are reading this forum. Please don't. The vast majority of users here can't help you at all, so screaming will only make these forums unpleasant for others. Scream at Logitech if you want, but not here. agree. Best to contact logitech via phone or email. And if you want to post on forums that LOGITECH does(theoretically) read, one should post at the official LOGITECH forums here: http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Squeezebox-Players/bd-p/squeezeboxplayers http://forums.logitech.com/t5/MySqueezebox-com-Squeezebox/bd-p/mysqueezebox -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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garym;564249 Wrote: agree. Best to contact logitech via phone or email. And if you want to post on forums that LOGITECH does(theoretically) read, one should post at the official LOGITECH forums here: http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Squeezebox-Players/bd-p/squeezeboxplayers http://forums.logitech.com/t5/MySqueezebox-com-Squeezebox/bd-p/mysqueezebox Om my what a horrible forum solution ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE for the rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Mnyb;564251 Wrote: Om my what a horrible forum solution ? agree, i don't like the new logitech forums. Bad organization, hard to see new postings only, etc. But they are there. I live in fear that this forum gets shut down (as it is a place where one can truly get some useful user assistance). -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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And don't believe FOR ONE MINUTE that Logitech staff is not monitoring this forum. We do. SCREAM AWAY! Please don't. As I said: we're the wrong persons. -- Michael ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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agree, i don't like the new logitech forums. Bad organization, hard to see new postings only, etc. But they are there. I live in fear that this forum gets shut down (as it is a place where one can truly get some useful user assistance). FWIW (and quite OT here...): I was about to put an announcements to the beginner's forum (probably others too), telling people clearly about those new forums. They're official support channels, monitored by support people, while this here (forums.slimdevices.com) is community based. Don't expect any Logitech folks to post here (though I'll rather spend my time here than there :-)). -- Michael ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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mherger;563528 Wrote: What do you mean by canadian sales person? Was one person responsible for the decision not to sell the battery in Canada? Or did you mean the Canadian Sales Team? I'm not sure whether it was one single person taking that decision, or the whole team together. Maybe it even was marketing. But anyway: it's a decision taken by Logitech Canada, because they thought there was no market for the battery. Let them know they were wrong. And is this why Squeezeboxes will die (inane marketing)? I buy a portable radio, but I don't want a battery??? -- earthbased earthbased's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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newy;563519 Wrote: Would've been nice if they mentioned that at the time we all bought the Radio. Maybe it's just me but I thought the ol' bait and switch tactic was not just deceitful but illegal. If Logitech would take my Radio back and give me money back I'd accept. In a word, disappointed. Please lookup what bait and switch really is before making such a post. While it is unfortunate that you can not buy the battery in Canada at no time did Logitech enter a contract with you to be able to buy such a device. It may have been loosely claimed to be a future option, but heck even if they never offered it anywhere due to unforseen issues, there would be nothing illegal about those actions. What they SOLD you is what you bought, nothing more nothing less. I think it sucks you can not get the battery, but you got everything you paid for. If the battery is what is needed to make the device work for you then you should not have bought it until the battery was available. NEVER buy on futures, it is a fools game. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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diannabill;564115 Wrote: This is absurdly illogical. The box my radio came in clearly states Additional Options Available. It's no way to do business or to treat customers, but it's not bait and switch, no matter how badly you've got your shorts in a bunch. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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diannabill;564115 Wrote: Quit apologing for Logitech. At best, they're lousy at delivering on their promises. At worst, they're dishonest. In my opinion, they fall somewhere in between. I am not apologizing for Logitech, I hate seeing people throw around absurd legal statements to cover their own ignorance. If the product does not do what you want or is not correct which it certainly is not for you then return it. It does not take a genius to see when you opened the box that it did not work without the power cord! -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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m1abrams;564122 Wrote: It does not take a genius to see when you opened the box that it did not work without the power cord! Well I'm definitely not a genius, but I did make the giant leap to assume that it would work without the power cord with the OPTIONAL AVAILABLE BATTERY!!! -- diannabill diannabill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38082 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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The Canadian Logitech website states that the battery pack will be available March 2010. It does not state that in fact Logitech will not sell the battery in Canada *at all*. That is clearly false advertising. I think it falls under bait and switch as well which is to advertise a product as possessing various features that, after the purchaser is committed, turn out not to exist. That is pretty much exactly what happened in Canada. -- albright albright's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35256 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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So what's the deal with Canada? I've been reading a lot of posts that the battery isn't available in Canada. Does Logitech offer any kind of explanation? -- diannabill diannabill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38082 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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albright;564132 Wrote: I think it falls under bait and switch as well which is to advertise a product as possessing various features that, after the purchaser is committed, turn out not to exist. I don't understand the policy with batteries and Canada, but I do understand bait and switch and that's not it at all. What you describe is all bait and no switch. Bait and switch is the practice of a seller luring customers into the store to buy product X (through incredibly good promotional price or other means), and then once the customer is in the store telling the customer that product X is sold out, or really isn't as good as product Y, and tries to get the customer to buy product Y (hence the switch). The idea is that product Y is more expensive and/or higher margin, and once the customer has made it to the store they don't want to leave empty handed. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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OK - admittedly not bait and switch. But how's this for the definition of false advertising: The act of knowingly advertising a product or service that does not exist or does not function as represented. -- diannabill diannabill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38082 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I am still confused though, you even stated that Logitech offered to refund the device AFTER the 30-day return period yet you choose not to. Instead you want to throw legal slander their way? Again you knew when you bought the device that no such battery existed, yet that is a key feature for you but you bought it anyway. Now I agree Logitech should provide something they advertised. BUT they never sold you a product that did not have everything that it advertised for the price you bought. NEVER buy something that does not meet your requirements at the time of purchase. If you are not happy with it either do not buy it or if it turns out it is not what you want return it. Not sure why this is such a difficult concept. If the battery was such a key feature you should not buy it until you can get that key feature, not like they wont have any when they get the batteries. Again I think Logitech should provide the batteries but they are by no means required under any Law to do so. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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m1abrams;564154 Wrote: I am still confused though, you even stated that Logitech offered to refund the device AFTER the 30-day return period yet you choose not to. Instead you want to throw legal slander their way? I was originally responding to your response to newy. You took umbrage to his use of the term bait and switch. I was merely trying to point out that while he may have been using the wrong legal terms, he was still justified in feeling that he had been taken advantage of. I still like the radio, and always have, but would have hoped the battery would have been available much more quickly. As for taking Logitech up on their offer of a return: I was willing to wait for just a few more weeks and hopefully get a battery rather than return it. As for slander, that doesn't apply--I have not accused Logitech of anything that is not true. Again you knew when you bought the device that no such battery existed, yet that is a key feature for you but you bought it anyway. Now I agree Logitech should provide something they advertised. BUT they never sold you a product that did not have everything that it advertised for the price you bought. When I bought the radio, I believed the battery existed. I had no information to the contrary, and was assured by Logitech sales support staff that the batteries would be available on May 19th. I ordered it immediately, and had no way of knowing how long that process would take. It IS a key feature for me. And yes, they sold me the product based upon the portability feature. NEVER buy something that does not meet your requirements at the time of purchase. If you are not happy with it either do not buy it or if it turns out it is not what you want return it. Not sure why this is such a difficult concept. If the battery was such a key feature you should not buy it until you can get that key feature, not like they wont have any when they get the batteries. Again I think Logitech should provide the batteries but they are by no means required under any Law to do so. That's ridiculous - like buying an engine and then hoping the car that it fits is still available. I found the radio I wanted, ordered the part that was supposedly available to make it perfect, and here we are. Months later. This back-and-forth is obviously not going to do anything to help anyone. I for one, would like to end it now. I understand you will want the last word. Ball's in your court. -- diannabill diannabill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38082 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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mherger;563528 Wrote: I'm not sure whether it was one single person taking that decision, or the whole team together. Maybe it even was marketing. But anyway: it's a decision taken by Logitech Canada, because they thought there was no market for the battery. Let them know they were wrong. The batteries I finally received last night were in bi-lingual packaging (English + French). That would strongly suggest they do, or at least did, have plans to sell them in Canada. -- Whirlygig Whirlygig's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38791 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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andyg;563461 Wrote: As far as I know, Logitech has no intention of selling batteries in Canada, so you'll have to order from the US somehow. Would've been nice if they mentioned that at the time we all bought the Radio. Maybe it's just me but I thought the ol' bait and switch tactic was not just deceitful but illegal. If Logitech would take my Radio back and give me money back I'd accept. In a word, disappointed. -- newy newy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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If Logitech would take my Radio back and give me money back I'd accept. In a word, disappointed. Please note that the decision not to sell in Canada was taken by canadian sales person. Let them know about it. If there are enough people bugging them I'm sure they'll change their minds. -- Michael ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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What do you mean by canadian sales person? Was one person responsible for the decision not to sell the battery in Canada? Or did you mean the Canadian Sales Team? I'm not sure whether it was one single person taking that decision, or the whole team together. Maybe it even was marketing. But anyway: it's a decision taken by Logitech Canada, because they thought there was no market for the battery. Let them know they were wrong. -- Michael ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I've tried to contact Logitech about this. I hope they got the message but the basic import of their reply was STFU and go away (not in exactly those words :) ) -- albright albright's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35256 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
Got an email from Logitech saying that my battery pack has shipped and UPS has it on track to arrive on 7/27 Hang in there everyone - seems help is on the way! -- diannabill diannabill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38082 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
Hang in there everyone - seems help is on the way! Not in Canada (where the battery pack is still listed as available March 2010. :( -- albright albright's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35256 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
I ordered my battery today (7/21). The website and the various stages of the order process were inconsistent. At one point it said backordered, at another point it said in stock. Very inconsistent. When I completed the order process, I called a live person. She told me the batteries are in stock and are being sent in the order in which the orders were placed. Certainly makes sense. I'll let you know if they had enough of them in stock to send me one also. (By the way, I am in the U.S.) -- ciarmer ciarmer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37631 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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As far as I know, Logitech has no intention of selling batteries in Canada, so you'll have to order from the US somehow. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I placed my order on 6/22, received order today, I'm in the USA, Long Island. -- kloach kloach's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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albright;563361 Wrote: Not in Canada (where the battery pack is still listed as available March 2010. :( Where on earth did you find a page where you can order accessories? I spent a good 10 or 15 minutes on the Logitech Canadian site, going in circles, trying to spend some money. They seem to make it hard... (I'd like a remote for my Radio, but I don't need a battery, so it looks like I need a Touch remote. Which in theory people can buy.) -- TJ_ TJ_'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39229 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
kloach;563468 Wrote: I placed my order on 6/22, received order today, I'm in the USA, Long Island. Wow - Now I'm really confused. I placed my order on 5/19, and will not get it until 7/27!!! -- diannabill diannabill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38082 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
I too have built a battery pack. http://www.strikalite.co.uk/prodcat_type/20/ALL/0/Specialist_Battery_Packs.html If you ring Strikalite, and order Product ID 752, you can ask them to solder wires on before despatch. Very helpful bunch! Product ID: 752 Category: Specialist Battery Packs 2.1Ah NiMh Battery pack Type: NiMH Capacity: 2100mAh Voltage: 12v Description: 12 volt 2100mAh AA rechargeable battery pack 2 rows of 5 side by side cells for use in model boats , Radio Amateur and other 12 volt applications -- davidw davidw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
Hi,David do you have the code for the connector, as i do not seem to see it on the web page. -- sandymc sandymc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
mlsstl;561075 Wrote: He has no clue as to whether the phone call was a squeaky wheel that got some grease or if the Logitech customer support people are kept clueless, whether by design or accident. It is most likely that the batteries are back in stock and available for shipping, so they are shipping out back-orders. Because if there were no batteries available, its hard for it to be an accident, clueless customer service, or a squeaky wheel syndrome. It is much more likely coincidence of the batteries coming back in stock a few days after he called to follow-up. But as they say, only time will tell. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
Hi Sandy, For the price it is worth ordering the kit from the USA, you get the instructions, 2 connectors and the thermistor. It didn't take long to arrive. I soldered the connectors on after crimping. -- davidw davidw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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Cheers david, I will do that. -- sandymc sandymc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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iPhone;561504 Wrote: Because if there were no batteries available, its hard for it to be an accident, clueless customer service, or a squeaky wheel syndrome. It is much more likely coincidence of the batteries coming back in stock a few days after he called to follow-up. I think you missed the point of my comment. I work with several clients who import various products and components internationally and there is usually no problem with knowing when and how items are going to be shipped and when they will arrive. Unexpected delays are more the exception than the rule. If the batteries were just back in stock, then somebody at Logitech knew that quite some time earlier and they either forgot or purposely chose not to tell the customer service people. While I think my multiple Squeezeboxes are great, I will stand by my comments that Logitech is one bizarre company when it comes to public relations. They do seem to go to great lengths to irritate customers concerning anticipated product availability and order status. -- mlsstl mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
Hildebrandt;560973 Wrote: I was in the same situation as you - never in stock... So i didn't order... And considered making one myself... One day i just ordered it, not expecting anything - hey the page said 'out of stock'... 3 days later i recieved and installed the pack... Try ordering it - you may get lucky... How long ago was this order? In the US? Mine was placed May 12th and still nothing. -- wayneBR wayneBR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38249 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
wayneBR;561062 Wrote: How long ago was this order? In the US? Mine was placed May 12th and still nothing. I was at a friend's house last evening and his Radio battery showed up unannounced last week. I believe he'd ordered it in April. He'd phoned Logitech about two weeks ago to inquire about the order status and was told nothing was in stock and they had no information regarding availability. He has no clue as to whether the phone call was a squeaky wheel that got some grease or if the Logitech customer support people are kept clueless, whether by design or accident. I suspect the latter. Logitech is a fascinating organization to watch. They seem to be at the forefront in finding ways to irritate their customers. You'd think people were waiting for a custom-built Bugatti Veyron instead of a battery pack ;-) -- mlsstl mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
mlsstl;561075 Wrote: You'd think people were waiting for a custom-built Bugatti Veyron instead of a battery pack ;-) Good one! I will call torm.-nothing to lose. -- wayneBR wayneBR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38249 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
If you can get instructions, go to a Batteries Plus for them to make the battery pack. -- Dan -- earthbased earthbased's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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rcampbel3;560732 Wrote: As it appears that Logitech has only shipped a dozen or so battery packs, and as it appears that it is eternally 'in stock', yet nonexistant, yet orderable... Where's a 3rd party Radio battery that I can buy today? Logitech radio batteries are SO SCARCE that they're not even for sale at massively inflated prices on ebay. I have 5 radios now. Sure, I could make my own, but I just have too many other things to do. I just want to buy one (or 5). If anyone here is interested in building and SELLING battery packs, I'm interested. I was in the same situation as you - never in stock... So i didn't order... And considered making one myself... One day i just ordered it, not expecting anything - hey the page said 'out of stock'... 3 days later i recieved and installed the pack... Try ordering it - you may get lucky... -- Hildebrandt Hildebrandt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20980 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
As it appears that Logitech has only shipped a dozen or so battery packs, and as it appears that it is eternally 'in stock', yet nonexistant, yet orderable... Where's a 3rd party Radio battery that I can buy today? Logitech radio batteries are SO SCARCE that they're not even for sale at massively inflated prices on ebay. I have 5 radios now. Sure, I could make my own, but I just have too many other things to do. I just want to buy one (or 5). If anyone here is interested in building and SELLING battery packs, I'm interested. -- rcampbel3 rcampbel3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
funkstar;515761 Wrote: It's not a safety issue, it's to do with the battery deep discharging when not in use, so reducing the batteries life span. There is a fix being tested, but as it takes a couple of weeks of a Radio being off to deep discharge the battery because of the bug, this takes a while. The difference between Logitechs stance on batteries and power supplies is because of the problems there has been with battery packs over the last few years. Also this is the first product with a battery in the line up, it is an entirely Logitech product. The previous players were SlimDevices products before they were Logitech, so the official line would have been different. I think Sean Adams could have designed and tested the battery in about one month. Small and nimble versus Large and bureaucratic, I guess. -- earthbased earthbased's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
anybody in the UK sourced the other remaining parts I had a look and came up with http://www.strikalite.co.uk/prodcat_type/36/ALL/0/NiMH_Low_Self_Discharge_Batteries.html The battery Product ID: 850 would appear to be what we need, low discharge and tagged to build into packs. £1.95 each. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
Hi, Excluding the kit as supplied from the US. Can I ask has anybody in the UK sourced the other remaining parts (batteries and wire) from a UK supplier and if so who and what exactly? Many thanks Adam -- mobileadam mobileadam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
Thanks to all who posted here to guide me through building the battery pack. I ordered the $5.99 connector/thermistor and a 2300 mAh pack from all-battery.com ($15.99), as suggested, and wired it up. I soldered rather than crimped, since I have better luck with that, and I think it was no more difficult, maybe easier. I decided not to include the intermediate taps into the battery. I slit the plastic wrap around the battery pack and slid the thermistor down inside so it sits sandwiched in the middle, but probably doesn't have tight thermal contact with any of the cells. I packed some foam around the battery pack so it wouldn't rattle around in the hard plastic compartment when plugged in. I worried at first that this might not allow it to stay cool, but then again, maybe this is fine - the thermistor should stop the charge sooner, if anything. I have lots of experience doing this kind of thing, but it shouldn't be that hard for a determined builder. The hardest thing is working with the small parts and wires. I have now used it for about 3 weeks and have discharged the pack a couple times. I measured 9 to 10 hours of radio operation at mid volume the first time, and it seemed about the same for subsequent uses. So far so good. I really like being able to move it around, bring it with me to the backyard campfire and take music requests from friends for Pandora, etc. -- edllew edllew's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I really like being able to move it around, bring it with me to the backyard campfire and take music requests from friends for Pandora, etc. Glad to hear of your success; I might give it a try since I live in Canada, where logitech refuses to offer the battery pack (and, for some reason, only made a dozen or so for the rest of the world :) ) -- albright albright's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35256 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
lemmy999;527129 Wrote: I believe the only other thing you will need is some wire and a soldering iron. So are people starting to use cell taps 3/6 instead of 3/7 since the cell voltages of the Logitech battery packs have been reported as 14V/4V/8V? How has that worked out? I need to re-wire mine - right now my taps aren't connected at all and it seems to work fine (charges, discharges, no funny behaviors). Perhaps the taps are purely for monitoring and manually evaluating if there are a pack is bad. I'm going to go with the 3/6 when I rewire. -Jeff -- jdoering jdoering's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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I believe the only other thing you will need is some wire and a soldering iron. So are people starting to use cell taps 3/6 instead of 3/7 since the cell voltages of the Logitech battery packs have been reported as 14V/4V/8V? How has that worked out? -- lemmy999 lemmy999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
peterw;522802 Wrote: Hold the power button for 2 seconds and Radio will shut down (the SqueezePlay/SqueezeOS software will shut down), not just go into the off screensaver mode. When fully off like this, I understand the battery does not charge, even if Radio is plugged into a live AC outlet. I expect this is because the code controlling charging probably relies on SqueezeOS. I wish! My SB radio Re-boots on the first Hold, and needs a second Hold the power button to shut-down. -- Tony T Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
I have 2 Squeezebox Radios and I'd like to build the battery packs myself, but just want to be sure I'm on the right track... Is the kit from http://shop.smallgreencomputer.com/SqueezeBox-Radio-Battery-Kit-squeezepack.htm and the battery pack from http://www.all-battery.com/12v2000mahnimhbatterypack11606.aspx all I need to do this properly? -- Stevereno Stevereno's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36252 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
fuzzyT;522755 Wrote: In what cases is the Radio plugged in but fully off. It seems to power up the clock and standby functions any time it's plugged in, Hold the power button for 2 seconds and Radio will shut down (the SqueezePlay/SqueezeOS software will shut down), not just go into the off screensaver mode. When fully off like this, I understand the battery does not charge, even if Radio is plugged into a live AC outlet. I expect this is because the code controlling charging probably relies on SqueezeOS. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
BTW, all the battery links I've looked at in this thread have been for basic NiMH cells, but word from a Logitech engineer is that the official battery pack uses Low Self-Discharge NiMH cells. From what I understand about NiMH (also having used them casually for years), you want LSD cells if you're going to leave your Radio unplugged, or even plugged in but fully off (in which case the batteries aren't being charged) for weeks or months at a time, so the combination of self-discharge and the very slight power drain of the microcontroller won't drain your batteries so low that they can't be revived. Even with LSD cells, you'll want to avoid leaving your Radio off for many months at a time, but using LSD cells would buy you an extra margin of safety. I've filed an enhancement request to make Radio a bit more intelligent about keeping batteries from going flat if it's left off but plugged in, but I don't know if/when that enhancement might be added. Since Logitech is using LSD cells, Radio probably doesn't need to be turned on as often as they've suggested, so there probably aren't as many customers at risk of dead batteries as I first feared. https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15782 -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
can someone post the voltages shown in power menu, please? thanks -- Dingsdada Synology DS-209+ ### 2x 750GB 2,5 WDBlue Raid1 ### SbS 7.4.1 Dingsdada's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22064 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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The voltages have been discussed either in this thread or on the link with the original instructions. I think they were nominally 1.2*3 and 1.2*7 (depends on charge level of course) the way the instructions say to do them. What we need is the voltage levels from someone with the official Logitech battery pack as soon as people get it in their hands. And mine is working fine without those wires connected at all. (I had a minor problem but don't plan on fixing it until I see posts from the official pack to make sure the 3/7 position is correct.) -Jeff -- jdoering jdoering's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
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...To the folks who provided the following links: http://cms.diodenring.de/de/electronic/microcontroller/92-squeezebox and http://www.all-battery.com/12v2000mahnimhbatterypack11606.aspx I was able to build two battery packs for my two SBR's for less than the price of one from Logitech. They work terrific! Now I can put the money that I would have spent on two accessory packs from Logitech towards a new SB Touch. *B PS: Beware if you want to try and build this yourself -- besides needing to have some basic electronics assembly ability, the parts for building the battery plug are *very* tiny -- which may make you appreciate buying a factory made one from Logitech. -- Bradley Bradley's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=46 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
The following directory is interesting for watching the battery behavior: /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-1/1-0010 Code: . alarm_time input:input2 .. ambient ir adc_0 battery_capacitykill adc_1 battery_charge modalias adc_10 battery_charge_rate msp_buffer adc_11 battery_disable name adc_12 battery_discharge_rate power_mode adc_13 battery_temperature rtc:rtc0 adc_14 battery_vmon1_voltage subsystem adc_15 battery_vmon2_voltage sys_voltage adc_2 battery_voltage test_1 adc_3 bus test_2 adc_4 charger_event test_4 adc_5 charger_state test_8 adc_6 driver time adc_7 flash uevent adc_8 fw wall_voltage adc_9 gp_register You can find out how some of the readings are interpreted by looking in: /usr/share/jive/applets/Diagnostics/DiagnosticsApplet.lua /usr/share/jive/applets/SqueezeboxBaby/SqueezeboxBabyApplet.lua But some values like battery_charge_rate (10) aren't used in the lua files and don't have meanings that are obvious to me. It appears to be using at TI MSP430 microcontroller. Here is some info on charging options with the MSP430: http://focus.ti.com/lit/ml/slap106/slap106.pdf http://focus.ti.com/lit/ug/sluu369/sluu369.pdf http://focus.ti.com/lit/an/slaa287/slaa287.pdf (has some MSP430 C code) I'm probably going to set up a remote syslogd so I can dump battery stats regularly (every 10 seconds say) and graph them to understand the charging characteristics. -Jeff -- jdoering jdoering's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
To all those folks building their own battery packs, you had better make sure that you get the temperature sensor correct. It is -the- critical component used to control charging. Get it wrong and you are likely to get either something that is non-functional (will not charge, or overcharges and boils the batteries), or something that catches fire. This is all I intend to say on the matter. Just take it as a friendly warning. -- awy awy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7480 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
awy;519797 Wrote: To all those folks building their own battery packs, you had better make sure that you get the temperature sensor correct. It is -the- critical component used to control charging. Get it wrong and you are likely to get either something that is non-functional (will not charge, or overcharges and boils the batteries), or something that catches fire. This is all I intend to say on the matter. Just take it as a friendly warning. Are you implying that the Radio uses a #916;T charging method rather than a #916;V method? If so, how do you know? -- elziko elziko's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11835 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
