Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
To solve my own problem I loaded ww-drt onto my 3 Buffalo Access Points, removed WDS, setup each with the SAME SSID, Security settings and each on a different channel 1,6 11. Both my radios are now working - 22 tracks without interruption (previously lucky to get 4) other one 30. I would say that the issue IS with the Radios as my other units (Duet Touch) worked fine -- Knobbyclark Knobbyclark's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22238 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
Well, I bought a new wireless router (Apple Time Capsule, which is the same as AirPort Extreme plus a hard disk for backups) and that seems to have resolved my problem. It's been three days since I installed it (took maybe half an hour) and I haven't had a dropout since. With the new router, I also get the correct show title and image for Internet radio programs more consistently. And my new Nook e-reader will connect to the new router, which it would not do at all with the old one. So it seems that the router was at fault all along. Thanks to everyone who commented, and happy new year! -- dlevine dlevine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3432 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
I have the same issue as OP and don't think my router is at fault. I have quite a few items connected to a dual wifi network and they have no issues. This is a fault that started with an upgrade on the radio. My radio had worked for over 12 months with no issues, now i check it each night before going to bed as I hate the default alarm. My unit does not drop off so quick as yours, normally get a few days. I have also noticed that when it drops the wifi connection the unit becomes very slow to respond. Might try the unit connected via cable for a few days to see what happens as well, but I have no cable connection in my bedroom so that would only identify an issue with wifi only. With so many have issues I am sure this is a software issue. -- vdeknock vdeknock's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4467 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
wonder boy;677573 Wrote: Another solution to this problem seems to be here http://blog.vester.org/2011/05/fixing-squeezebox-radio-loosing.html though not sure how I could use this with my BT home hub 3 router, it doesnt come up in the data base and the software doesn't allow me to do as suggested. I have experienced the same exact problem as the OP. Just purchased my radio and it loses the wifi network connection daily. Don't make yourself crazy deciding you need to suddenly replace your router or configure it with strange settings just to satisfy the needs of this one device when every other device in your home has been working happily. You'll screw everything else up like I almost did. It is not the network or the router, it's the Logitech Squeezebox Radio configuration. Until Logitech does something about this, I am going to try the port forwarding suggestion above and see if it works. I'm using a Linksys WRT54GX2, which is an older router (2 years old) but still more than capable of supporting my home network, including a wireless netbook and cell phone. I will report back whether the port forwarding solution solves the problem. -- emm emm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3912 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
Well that didn't take long. Despite adding the port forward settings to my linksys router per the link above, after playing for about 30 minutes the squeezebox radio just lost the wifi signal again. I will search the forums for a better solution but I am inclined to simply return this radio and wait for Squeezebox or some other company to make one that actually works. Frustrating. -- emm emm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3912 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
Another solution to this problem seems to be here http://blog.vester.org/2011/05/fixing-squeezebox-radio-loosing.html though not sure how I could use this with my BT home hub 3 router, it doesnt come up in the data base and the software doesn't allow me to do as suggested. -- wonder boy 2 Booms, 1 radio, a touch and an SB3...think that's enough? wonder boy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
Verified there are no duplicate IP's? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
Something to try is maybe drop down the max settings for both Data Rate and Transmit Power, maybe set them to Auto if available. RF devices can become overwhelmed if there is too much power (signal) hitting them. Ask anyone who may live too close to a TV tower. ;) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
As near as I can tell there are no duplicate IPs. Can you recommend a Mac utility or command-line tool to list all clients on a network? I've tried ping 192.168.0.255 but the Squeezeboxes do not respond to that, though they will respond to a ping to their individual IP addresses. The router has a screen that's supposed to list all DHCP clients but it's blank for some reason; in any case, that would not list any client that uses static IP. I'm disinclined to reduce the router's data rate or transmit power. I can't see how it will prevent the Radio from dropping off the network, and I'm afraid that it will reduce performance for devices that are farther away (I bought this high-powered router because I was experiencing terrible performance at the end of my house). Perhaps I should explain that messing with the router at all makes me very nervous. I have a complex, heterogenous network and it seems like every time I mess with it at all, something goes haywire. Yesterday, for example, I switched the router from B/G to G-only. I had to go around the house and make sure every device was still on line, and in fact I did have to re-enter the password on two of them. Later in the evening I came home from a meeting to find that I couldn't access any web sites at all, and in fact I could not even access the wireless router itself, even via Ethernet (though, weirdly, I could access the other devices in the house). I power-cycled the router and everything came back. But then this morning my TiVo complained it could not find its server. I rebooted the router a second time and now everything seems to be fine, but I have low confidence that this will continue if I keep changing the settings. This is why I'm hoping that throwing money at the problem and buying a new Radio might cure the problem, because I'd rather spend money than keep spending time messing with every device on my network. But I would like to find out if there's any chance at all that a new Radio will be any better. -- dlevine dlevine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3432 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
For that matter, could I set up Internet Connection Sharing on the Squeezebox Server machine (a Mac Mini) and have the Radio connect to that rather than the possibly-problematic router? -- dlevine dlevine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3432 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
I suppose the only way to know would be to try. Stepping back, if you're not comfortable adjusting something like the Transmit Power, the Ruckus is probably not the ideal model for you. This company targets office and corporate environments, where they are installed on the ceiling and have IT staff to install, test, and manage them. Yes, they tried nudging themselves into the consumer market, but that hasn't worked out so well. How well did this work out: http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/12/ruckus-wireless-teams-with-slim-for-2825-mediaflex-router/ My experience agrees with toby10's comments re: power. Yes, to your question re: radio dropping off. Likewise a duet/receiver pair, constantly. I can't recall about the Touch, as it was powered-off for a long time. We no longer have the duet/receiver; the radio and touch are now always available since replacing the high end AP. The Airport thus far (6 months) has proven to be exceptionally reliable in our home with as many as 7 or 8 clients, and 2 additional clients via the SB3 Ethernet/wireless bridge. I'm not being a fanyboy of any vendor/product; rather cheer for whatever works best for your needs. -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
Thanks for your recommendations! The Ruckus router has worked great for years (much better than my previous piece-of-xxx router) except with the Radio, but I will strongly consider switching to an Airport Express or Time Capsule after the holidays. In the meantime, I might try bumping down the data rate and transmit power a bit. -- dlevine dlevine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3432 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
I'm just about ready to give up on my year-old Squeezebox Radio. It has a problem that has been reported here by several other users with no common solution: it falls off my wifi network (wifi icon turns red) at least once a day, usually first thing in the morning. All the other devices in the house, including some in the same room, have no problems with the network. Sometimes if I wait (up to half an hour) it comes back by itself. Sometimes I have to reboot the Radio. Sometimes I also have to re-enter my wifi password (and that's a pain, because it is a long one). Sometimes I also have to reboot my wifi router (and that's a huge pain, because some of the other devices in my house do not consistently reconnect with the rebooted router -- including my two Squeezebox Classics and my TiVo). When the Radio falls off the network, it shows no network name under Settings Advanced Diagnostics Wireless Info and my network shows in the list of available wireless networks but with zero signal strength (even though other devices in the same room have plenty of signal). Check Network shows Wireless - no link. Repair Network has no effect. I've tried SSH-ing into the Radio and running top to keep the network alive, as another poster here suggested. It didn't work. There is a microwave oven in the same room as the Radio but there's no apparent correlation between use of the oven and the Radio's network problems. Using wired Ethernet is not an option in this room. Here's how the Radio reports itself to the server, when it's up: Player Model: Squeezebox Radio Firmware: 7.6.1-r9482 Player IP Address: 192.168.0.16 Player MAC Address: 00:04:20:28:cd:d5 Wireless Signal Strength: 83% My wireless router is the powerful but rather obscure Ruckus 2825 Multimedia Wireless Router (http://www.ruckuswireless.com/products/mediaflex-home-products/2800-series). It provides excellent signal strength throughout my house and has not been problematic other than with the Radio. Unfortunately, its settings are rather limited and does not seem to offer control over uPnP or DHCP lease time. It is broadcasting my SSID (whose name consists only of numbers and letters) and using channel 1 (I selected this channel because none of my neighbors are using it). I'm using WPA Personal for security. My router is in auto-select (B/G) mode. I haven't yet changed this because I am afraid it might require reauthenticating all my devices after the change, which would be a pain. I also have some older devices that MIGHT not be G-compatible (I can't find their spec sheets). At this point I'm pretty much at a loss. I love everything about the Radio except the fact that it doesn't work reliably, but I'm just about ready to go back to my previous solution in this room which was an iPod speaker set. I haven't tried contacting Logitech. The Radio is over a year old, and I have not had good luck with technical issues like this. As I see it, here are my options: 1. Try putting the router into G-only mode (might require reauthenticating all devices). 2. Buy another Radio in hopes that this is a hardware defect ($129 at Best Buy). 3. Try a different router, e.g. Airport Extreme or Time Capsule ($179-300, would definitely require reauthenticating all devices). Any other suggestions? I am a retired software professional and would be happy to try diagnostics, turn on logging, etc. if that would help diagnose the problem. -- dlevine dlevine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3432 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
I would definitely try #1. Maybe try disabling security on your router to see if it makes any difference, too. Have you tried moving the Radio? Sometimes just a few feet can make a major difference. Powerline adapters are another option. I use them in a few spots. -- MeSue SUE 1 Touch | 2 Booms | 2 Radios | 1 Duet | 1 SB2 HP MediaSmart EX470 | Logitech Media Server 7.7.1 | iPod Touch iPad w/ iPeng Find me on 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue) | 'Twitter' (http://twitter.com/suechastain) | 'Rhapsody' (http://www.rhapsody.com/members/mesue) -*Logitech! Steal my idea, please! 'Squeezebox Radio 2.0' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=674825postcount=2)*- MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
I agree on trying #1, G devices will likely disconnect but should automatically reconnect without any additional authentication. I've turned OFF b/G mode on many WiFi routers, making them G only, I've never had a G device not reconnect by itself. Have you done a WiFi site survey? Other WiFi's near you possibly using the same ch #? Some very basic WiFi tweaks to possibly improve signal strength and reliability ___Router Administration Basics (1-5 require admin access to your router): 1. use a unique SSID name (name of your network/router) 2. if using a G WiFi: set WiFi to G only (turns off a b modes) 3. if using an N WiFi: set to G Compatibility mode (if using G devices) 4. change the broadcast channel to the least used channel near you (see *) 5. choose only channels 1 or 6 or 11 (or 13 if available) ___Physical (location) 6. router and WiFi antenna orientation adjustments can help signal strength 7. try to locate the router as #8220;central#8221; to the home as possible, keeping in mind length width height 8. keep router away from other electronic devices (cordless phones, ISP modem, computers) ___Simple Maintenance 9. reboot WiFi router every once in a while (once a month is usually sufficient) * If your WiFi network card software already gives the ch numbers and the signal strength of all nearby networks, that's all you need. But there are free programs like NetStumbler if needed. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
I have switched my router to G-only. Some devices did have to reauthenticate; others did not. I'll let you know if that fixes the problem. -- dlevine dlevine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3432 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
dlevine;676510 Wrote: I have switched my router to G-only. Some devices did have to reauthenticate; others did not. I'll let you know if that fixes the problem. I too have had a radio for a year and am noticing the daily drop out but only very recently. I only use the radio for a morning alarm mostly so I guess there may be more drop outs that I don't notice. My router is a BT HH3 which is quite common in the UK, my other 4 boxes are all wireless and are rock steady just the radio that drops out. I have option to broadcast in N/B/G or B/G. Currently it's using N/B/G and auto selecting the best channel which is currently 1. Very annoying, will be interesting how you get on! -- wonder boy 2 Booms, 1 radio, a touch and an SB3...think that's enough? wonder boy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
Well, switching to G-only did NOT fix the problem. The Radio dropped off the network while I was fixing dinner. I rebooted it and it dropped off again a few minutes later, only to come back by itself after a while (a common pattern). As I said in my original post, I am using channel 1 because none of my neighbors are using it. My SSID name is unique, there are no problems with signal strength (83% when it's up), and the router gets rebooted quite frequently because of this problem. Any other suggestions? I think my least expensive/disruptive solution at this point (other than dumping the Radio and going back to an iPod) might be to buy another Radio on the assumption that this one is a hardware sample defect. But is there any reason to assume that is the case? -- dlevine dlevine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3432 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
dlevine;676539 Wrote: The Radio dropped off the network while I was fixing dinner... And you're sure it can't be from the microwave? -- MeSue SUE 1 Touch | 2 Booms | 2 Radios | 1 Duet | 1 SB2 HP MediaSmart EX470 | Logitech Media Server 7.7.1 | iPod Touch iPad w/ iPeng Find me on 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue) | 'Twitter' (http://twitter.com/suechastain) | 'Rhapsody' (http://www.rhapsody.com/members/mesue) -*Logitech! Steal my idea, please! 'Squeezebox Radio 2.0' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=674825postcount=2)*- MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
Yes. We weren't using the microwave. -- dlevine dlevine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3432 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
I considered a Ruckus too, btw. Some wireless APs regardless of price, touted range, features, may not perform well in certain environments. And this can be very bad with the newer SBs. A recent high end router was simply terrible here. We're now using an Airport Extreme, and it has been fantastic. Our original Belkin Pre-N was simply rock-solid (if perhaps not friendly to the neighbors). Try setting the AP back to auto-selecting the channel, and focusing on the wireless settings on the AP (don't know anything about the Ruckus' settings). While you may not have used your microwave, your neighbors may have, or perhaps there is other RF interference that happens to impact your AP more than is acceptable. I wouldn't focus on DHCP - if you are losing an IP, it is most likely because you lose association. I'd generally ignore the signal strength meter. Your own experience is telling you it is not too useful. If you're streaming music reliably, who cares what the number says. If you're not, do you need a number to reinforce this? :-) -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio loses wifi daily
Also, MrC, when you say you tried another router that was simply terrible, were you seeing a Squeezebox Radio drop off the network like I am? (It's not a signal strength issue or DHCP, as near as I can tell... it simply refuses to connect.) -- dlevine dlevine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3432 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92262 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
