Re: [RBW] Bag Repair in Seattle
Hey thanks for all the replies, Rainy Pass looks just like what I'm looking for. I'm going to swing by later this week! cheers, Robert -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A supposedly fun thing I'll never do again...
Hey Mike, Great pics! Now you got me thinking about taking the QB on tomorrow's ride... BTW, you should be able to swap out the solid bolt-on axle for a QR one, without too much trouble. I did just that with my Surly hubs on the karate monkey a while back. I recommend the old "enclosed cam" QR's for horizontal-ish dropouts... -Jay B Denver, CO On Aug 3, 2:19 pm, Mike wrote: > > Sounds fun! Inquiring minds want to know: Did you shift? > > > jim m > > wc ca > > Hey Jim, I didn't shift, 40/18 the entire way. It was definitely a > good work out. The cruise down was odd, it seemed like it took forever > just coasting back down. There's no real tricky turns or anything so > you almost get bored with the descent. > > My rear wheel is a bolt-on (Surly hub fixed/free) and so it's a little > harder to change. Next year I'm hoping to put on a different rear > wheel, something with a QR. > > --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A tale of two Hillbornes
Or "The Funny Looking One." Yah. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 10:04 PM, rcnute wrote: > I never knew the connection--awesome. The new bars shall be called > "Pancakes." > > Ryan > > On Aug 5, 9:44 pm, cyclotourist wrote: > > Handlebars designed to be used with the... *Fargo*... > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:41 PM, reidplum > wrote: > > > Sorry to be so totally clueless, but what the hail are woodchippers??? > > > > Reid > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > David > > Redlands, CA > > > > "One man's religion is another man's belly laugh." > > --Robert A. Heinlein > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "One man's religion is another man's belly laugh." --Robert A. Heinlein -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A tale of two Hillbornes
I never knew the connection--awesome. The new bars shall be called "Pancakes." Ryan On Aug 5, 9:44 pm, cyclotourist wrote: > Handlebars designed to be used with the... *Fargo*... > > > > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:41 PM, reidplum wrote: > > Sorry to be so totally clueless, but what the hail are woodchippers??? > > Reid > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > "One man's religion is another man's belly laugh." > --Robert A. Heinlein -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A tale of two Hillbornes
Handlebars designed to be used with the... *Fargo*... On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:41 PM, reidplum wrote: > Sorry to be so totally clueless, but what the hail are woodchippers??? > > Reid > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "One man's religion is another man's belly laugh." --Robert A. Heinlein -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A tale of two Hillbornes
Sorry to be so totally clueless, but what the hail are woodchippers??? Reid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite route? Oakland to Santa Rosa
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Clayton Scott wrote: > My favorite so far is through valleyford, occidental, monte rio. If you're in the Valley Ford, Occidental, Monte Rio area you're in prime cycling territory. And you can ride what some say is the best bike ride in the world, King Ridge. From Monte Rio, head down the river a couple of miles. Turn right on the Cazadero Highway, which is more like a little side road. When you get to Cazadero, keep going on King Ridge, to the Bicycle Fun Zone. One way back is to go right on Hauser Bridge, an extremely steep downhill followed by an uphill on Seaview. Go down to Highway 1 via Meyer Grade. South on 1, left at Jenner to go back up the river to Monte Rio. It'll be about 55 miles. I rode King Ridge for the first time this weekend. I thought I'd died and gone to Bicycle Heaven. There may be a better bike ride, but so far I haven't discovered one. In keeping with recent discussions, I highly recommend bringing some cookies along. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FOR SALE 60cm Quickbeam, green
Sorry, here's a link to some photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/8531...@n06/sets/72157624538844535/ - Frank On Aug 6, 12:06 am, frank_a wrote: > Hi All, > For sale is a 60cm Quickbeam from the first or second batch of green > 'beams. This was purchased direct from Rivendell by brother-in-law > when the green's were current.. He never used it as he thought he > would. Shortly after delivery he had a son, then another The bike > has sat in his garage most of it's life. If it has 50 miles of use > it's because 30 of them are the ones I put on it during my visits. > He's not a member here and asked me to sell it for him. I've got > enough bikes and a custom Riv on the way or I'd buy it myself. Anyway > if you've been looking for one, here it is. > Stock build except it has a new Kalloy Uno seat post instead of a > Nitto. No seat, no peadals. > The only blemish worth noting is a small scratch of paint about 1/4" > long at the front of the seat tube point which was there since new ( I > was there when he unpacked it). There's a mark or two from moving > around the garage but really nothing to cause any concern. The bike is > like new. $1300.00 plus actual shipping. > Ships from Ft. Laud. Fl., 0 > I've sold and bought a few Riv's on the site here,.. you'll be > happy. > Please respond offlist. Thanks, > - Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FOR SALE 60cm Quickbeam, green
Hi All, For sale is a 60cm Quickbeam from the first or second batch of green 'beams. This was purchased direct from Rivendell by brother-in-law when the green's were current.. He never used it as he thought he would. Shortly after delivery he had a son, then another The bike has sat in his garage most of it's life. If it has 50 miles of use it's because 30 of them are the ones I put on it during my visits. He's not a member here and asked me to sell it for him. I've got enough bikes and a custom Riv on the way or I'd buy it myself. Anyway if you've been looking for one, here it is. Stock build except it has a new Kalloy Uno seat post instead of a Nitto. No seat, no peadals. The only blemish worth noting is a small scratch of paint about 1/4" long at the front of the seat tube point which was there since new ( I was there when he unpacked it). There's a mark or two from moving around the garage but really nothing to cause any concern. The bike is like new. $1300.00 plus actual shipping. Ships from Ft. Laud. Fl., 0 I've sold and bought a few Riv's on the site here,.. you'll be happy. Please respond offlist. Thanks, - Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A tale of two Hillbornes
Woodchippers look like they make it easy to stay in the drops. Definitely on my to-get list. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:00 PM, EricP wrote: > And I say the big one rides well. Test rode it a week or so ago. Was > a cool ride. Too big for me as currently set up. (Maybe with a 7 or > 8cm stem.) > > Pretty sure the orange ones take slightly bigger tires. Don't think > those 45s would fit on mine. > > Also the first time I've ridden with Woodchippers on another bike. > They work well. Definitely a good choice if one spends a lot of time > in the drops. > > Eric Platt > St. Paul > > On Aug 4, 2:29 pm, Bill Connell wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery > > > > wrote: > > > > http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2010/08/versatile-sam-hillborne.html > > > > I've seen these in person, the knobbied version really looks great, > > ready to explore about anywhere you want to go. I love that orange > > color of this batch too. > > > > -- > > Bill Connell > > St. Paul, MN > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "One man's religion is another man's belly laugh." --Robert A. Heinlein -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite route? Oakland to Santa Rosa
Hi Franklyn, Clayton here. I would be very happy if you could send me the backroads way west of petaluma through sebastopol and west sonoma trail. I will be riding to healdsburg again (inlaws live up there) this saturday and have already found a bunch of fun and not so fun routes but have not done this one yet. My favorite so far is through valleyford, occidental, monte rio. Anyway, if you could sent that would be great. Of course you are welcome to join the fun too if you want to come along. I will leave around 6am from SF on Sat. Best, Clayton On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:07 PM, franklyn wrote: > I have done this many times. You can start in the City after getting > across the Bay, then go through fairfax to nicasio, then go to > Petaluma, then takes Old Redwood Hwy (parallel to 101) all the way to > santa rosa. You can also stay west of petaluma in the back roads > through sebastopal then take the west sonoma trail into santa rosa > (contact me offlist for the exact route). > > you can also take golden gate transit at El Cerrito Del Norte BART to > San Rafael then wind through Marin. > > I am actually probably starting my journey in Berkeley this saturday > to ride to Ukiah (another 60 miles north of Santa Rosa). > > Franklyn > > On Aug 5, 4:31 pm, reynoldslugs wrote: > > Living in Sonoma County and concerned with the safety of all Rivendell > > and other riders, I resepctfully suggest that you stay away from > > Vallejo and Highway 29. Make your way via ferry to SF or MArin County/ > > Sausalito - then find the back roads up to Petaluma and Santa Rosa. I > > haven't done the ride for several years, but you can ramble around and > > up to the top of Mt Tam. Be safe. > > > > On Aug 5, 11:56 am, "Andy.M" wrote: > > > > > > > > > I was just up in the that area... so to give you a heads up there is > > > road work going on on the 121 between Napa and Sonoma NO SHOULDER so > > > if you go that way be careful! The Oakville Grade Rd/Trinity Rd is > > > gorgeous, but you'll need to bring your hill climbing shoes ;) > > > -Andy > > > > > On Aug 5, 11:30 am, ian connelly wrote: > > > > > > (caveat: i haven't done this ride exactly, but have ridden from north > > > > of santa rosa through napa to vallejo, and have done a lot of riding > > > > in marin. i would also be eager to hear input from santa rosa/sonoma > > > > locals!) > > > > > > i'd suggest you take the ferry (either to larkspur or vallejo) to get > > > > started. only problem is that to take the ferry to either of those > > > > spots you can't go from oakland, but must start in SF. since you seem > > > > willing to BART you could always start by doing that. you can also > > > > take the ferry from jack london to the ferry building and sf and > > > > transfer (checkhttp://www.eastbayferry.com/forschedulesetc). > > > > > > from vallejo...well, you'd have to ride along hwy 29 to get to napa, > > > > and it's not very pleasant. wide shoulder but trafficky. (the bay > > > > trail is not yet finished between napa and vallejo, though they are > > > > making progress). once in napa, the easiest route would probably be > > > > via the silverado trail, then cut over to the west at st helena and > go > > > > into santa rosa via spring mountain/st helena/calistoga. steep, > > > > narrow. > > > > you could also devise a route that got you to hwy 12 without having > to > > > > go on the busiest roads, but you'd likely have to do a stint along 12 > > > > or 121 at some point, and on the weekends these roads are congested > > > > with drivers and would not be fun. also, since many tourists are in > > > > the area to drink wine, i would try to avoid riding them after noon > if > > > > you must ride them at all. > > > > > > via marin - little more wander-y, but you could take the ferry to > > > > larkspur, head west along sir francis drake past fairfax, turn > towards > > > > to nicasio valley road (just past san geronimo), then turn right on > > > > petaluma-point reyes road...then, when you get to petaluma, head > north > > > > via either stony point (west of 101) or redwood/petaluma hill road > > > > (east of 101). these are probably the most direct if semi-trafficky > > > > options, so ymmv depending. > > > > > > (after i wrote this i checked google maps' bike option - google > > > > suggests the petaluma hill route - 65 miles, 6.5 hours. napa route > > > > adds 20 miles. good luck!) > > > > > > ian > > > > > > On Aug 3, 11:14 am, CR Masterson wrote: > > > > > > > I'm happy to BART across the bay, head up through Marin. Or any > other > > > > > way you have fallen in love with. It would be nice avoid huge > trucks, > > > > > mondo hills and traveling way out of the way as much as possible. > > > > > Thanks.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send ema
[RBW] Re: Favorite route? Oakland to Santa Rosa
I have done this many times. You can start in the City after getting across the Bay, then go through fairfax to nicasio, then go to Petaluma, then takes Old Redwood Hwy (parallel to 101) all the way to santa rosa. You can also stay west of petaluma in the back roads through sebastopal then take the west sonoma trail into santa rosa (contact me offlist for the exact route). you can also take golden gate transit at El Cerrito Del Norte BART to San Rafael then wind through Marin. I am actually probably starting my journey in Berkeley this saturday to ride to Ukiah (another 60 miles north of Santa Rosa). Franklyn On Aug 5, 4:31 pm, reynoldslugs wrote: > Living in Sonoma County and concerned with the safety of all Rivendell > and other riders, I resepctfully suggest that you stay away from > Vallejo and Highway 29. Make your way via ferry to SF or MArin County/ > Sausalito - then find the back roads up to Petaluma and Santa Rosa. I > haven't done the ride for several years, but you can ramble around and > up to the top of Mt Tam. Be safe. > > On Aug 5, 11:56 am, "Andy.M" wrote: > > > > > I was just up in the that area... so to give you a heads up there is > > road work going on on the 121 between Napa and Sonoma NO SHOULDER so > > if you go that way be careful! The Oakville Grade Rd/Trinity Rd is > > gorgeous, but you'll need to bring your hill climbing shoes ;) > > -Andy > > > On Aug 5, 11:30 am, ian connelly wrote: > > > > (caveat: i haven't done this ride exactly, but have ridden from north > > > of santa rosa through napa to vallejo, and have done a lot of riding > > > in marin. i would also be eager to hear input from santa rosa/sonoma > > > locals!) > > > > i'd suggest you take the ferry (either to larkspur or vallejo) to get > > > started. only problem is that to take the ferry to either of those > > > spots you can't go from oakland, but must start in SF. since you seem > > > willing to BART you could always start by doing that. you can also > > > take the ferry from jack london to the ferry building and sf and > > > transfer (checkhttp://www.eastbayferry.com/forschedulesetc). > > > > from vallejo...well, you'd have to ride along hwy 29 to get to napa, > > > and it's not very pleasant. wide shoulder but trafficky. (the bay > > > trail is not yet finished between napa and vallejo, though they are > > > making progress). once in napa, the easiest route would probably be > > > via the silverado trail, then cut over to the west at st helena and go > > > into santa rosa via spring mountain/st helena/calistoga. steep, > > > narrow. > > > you could also devise a route that got you to hwy 12 without having to > > > go on the busiest roads, but you'd likely have to do a stint along 12 > > > or 121 at some point, and on the weekends these roads are congested > > > with drivers and would not be fun. also, since many tourists are in > > > the area to drink wine, i would try to avoid riding them after noon if > > > you must ride them at all. > > > > via marin - little more wander-y, but you could take the ferry to > > > larkspur, head west along sir francis drake past fairfax, turn towards > > > to nicasio valley road (just past san geronimo), then turn right on > > > petaluma-point reyes road...then, when you get to petaluma, head north > > > via either stony point (west of 101) or redwood/petaluma hill road > > > (east of 101). these are probably the most direct if semi-trafficky > > > options, so ymmv depending. > > > > (after i wrote this i checked google maps' bike option - google > > > suggests the petaluma hill route - 65 miles, 6.5 hours. napa route > > > adds 20 miles. good luck!) > > > > ian > > > > On Aug 3, 11:14 am, CR Masterson wrote: > > > > > I'm happy to BART across the bay, head up through Marin. Or any other > > > > way you have fallen in love with. It would be nice avoid huge trucks, > > > > mondo hills and traveling way out of the way as much as possible. > > > > Thanks.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Canti Rom Sizing
Mike, I can run a 100mm stem but then I get pain in my neck as I'm not so flexible anymore. I believe that unless one is sort of disproportionate, Riv bikes fit really well based on PBH. Make some allowances for flexibility if you will. With your PBH being lower than mine, I'd say we're both riding frames based on our PBH. Stem selection finetunes thr fit, along with handlebar height. How this helps the OT I'm not sure... Unless he can find the recommended PBH range for the frame size he's looking at and knows whether he's of average proportions or not. I'd also suggest going for the middle of the range as usually there is some overlap. René On 8/5/10, Michael_S wrote: > I think that a 59cm is on the tall side of the range for someone 5' > 9". As Seth said ,standover is usually secondary to the Top tube > measurement. Of course stem length and saddle setback can adjust for > minor ( 1-2cm) differences. I usually try to start with the top tube > measurement and a 100mm stem and pick a bike size that can work 10mm > either way. To me a bike with a 7 or 8 cm stem is a sign of a too big > bike. FWIW I am 5'11" and have a 85 PBM and usually end up on a 58 or > 59 cm frame. > > ~Mike~ > > On Aug 5, 4:41 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: >> I'm 5'11" with PBH of 89.5 and ride a 61cm AHH with 35mm tires and a >> 61cm Atlantis with 50mm tires. The Atlantis with the 50mm tires is >> quite taller, but gives me enough clearance. Bigger tires, assuming >> they'd fit would make it uncomfortable but still rideable. >> >> The top tube is perfect and I use 8cm stems on both. >> >> My saddle height is at 87 IIRC; otherwise it's at 77... I'm on >> vacation with the family and the sun is impairing my recolection... >> :-) >> >> René >> >> On 8/5/10, Ralph Rognstad Jr. wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > I am just shy of 6'2" (PBH of 89) and ride a 63cm Canti Rom, usually >> > with 28's or 32's. Works for me, but did seem a little tall at first. >> > Ralph >> >> > jandrews_nyc wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I am helping a friend who is interested in purchasing a used >> >> Cantilever Romulus. His PBH is 84. The bike is a 59. Riv website >> >> says for most smaller/av riders its PBH minus around 25 to get frame >> >> size...thats 84-25 = 59!but I'm nervous it will be way up there >> >> and the Romulus geometry chart has the standover for the Rom listed as >> >> 83.8cm and that's on 700x27's. He'd like to put 700x35's on. >> >> Can anyone help me with this. Experience with this frame. Is a 59 >> >> just a bit too big for a 5'9'' rider with a PBH of 84? >> >> Thank you! >> >> Jason >> >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups >> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Sent from my mobile device -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Riv Road sizing
Hi all does anyone here know the standover height on a 61 cm Riv road. Top tube length is not a concern, as I have a long torso and long arms. I am 6' and have a 87cm PBH ( just strong of 34") Another consideration would be doing a 650b conversion Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Canti Rom Sizing
I think that a 59cm is on the tall side of the range for someone 5' 9". As Seth said ,standover is usually secondary to the Top tube measurement. Of course stem length and saddle setback can adjust for minor ( 1-2cm) differences. I usually try to start with the top tube measurement and a 100mm stem and pick a bike size that can work 10mm either way. To me a bike with a 7 or 8 cm stem is a sign of a too big bike. FWIW I am 5'11" and have a 85 PBM and usually end up on a 58 or 59 cm frame. ~Mike~ On Aug 5, 4:41 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > I'm 5'11" with PBH of 89.5 and ride a 61cm AHH with 35mm tires and a > 61cm Atlantis with 50mm tires. The Atlantis with the 50mm tires is > quite taller, but gives me enough clearance. Bigger tires, assuming > they'd fit would make it uncomfortable but still rideable. > > The top tube is perfect and I use 8cm stems on both. > > My saddle height is at 87 IIRC; otherwise it's at 77... I'm on > vacation with the family and the sun is impairing my recolection... > :-) > > René > > On 8/5/10, Ralph Rognstad Jr. wrote: > > > > > > > I am just shy of 6'2" (PBH of 89) and ride a 63cm Canti Rom, usually > > with 28's or 32's. Works for me, but did seem a little tall at first. Ralph > > > jandrews_nyc wrote: > >> Hi, > >> I am helping a friend who is interested in purchasing a used > >> Cantilever Romulus. His PBH is 84. The bike is a 59. Riv website > >> says for most smaller/av riders its PBH minus around 25 to get frame > >> size...thats 84-25 = 59!but I'm nervous it will be way up there > >> and the Romulus geometry chart has the standover for the Rom listed as > >> 83.8cm and that's on 700x27's. He'd like to put 700x35's on. > >> Can anyone help me with this. Experience with this frame. Is a 59 > >> just a bit too big for a 5'9'' rider with a PBH of 84? > >> Thank you! > >> Jason > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Sent from my mobile device- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Canti Rom Sizing
I'm 5'11" with PBH of 89.5 and ride a 61cm AHH with 35mm tires and a 61cm Atlantis with 50mm tires. The Atlantis with the 50mm tires is quite taller, but gives me enough clearance. Bigger tires, assuming they'd fit would make it uncomfortable but still rideable. The top tube is perfect and I use 8cm stems on both. My saddle height is at 87 IIRC; otherwise it's at 77... I'm on vacation with the family and the sun is impairing my recolection... :-) René On 8/5/10, Ralph Rognstad Jr. wrote: > I am just shy of 6'2" (PBH of 89) and ride a 63cm Canti Rom, usually > with 28's or 32's. Works for me, but did seem a little tall at first. Ralph > > jandrews_nyc wrote: >> Hi, >> I am helping a friend who is interested in purchasing a used >> Cantilever Romulus. His PBH is 84. The bike is a 59. Riv website >> says for most smaller/av riders its PBH minus around 25 to get frame >> size...thats 84-25 = 59!but I'm nervous it will be way up there >> and the Romulus geometry chart has the standover for the Rom listed as >> 83.8cm and that's on 700x27's. He'd like to put 700x35's on. >> Can anyone help me with this. Experience with this frame. Is a 59 >> just a bit too big for a 5'9'' rider with a PBH of 84? >> Thank you! >> Jason >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Sent from my mobile device -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Favorite route? Oakland to Santa Rosa
Living in Sonoma County and concerned with the safety of all Rivendell and other riders, I resepctfully suggest that you stay away from Vallejo and Highway 29. Make your way via ferry to SF or MArin County/ Sausalito - then find the back roads up to Petaluma and Santa Rosa. I haven't done the ride for several years, but you can ramble around and up to the top of Mt Tam. Be safe. On Aug 5, 11:56 am, "Andy.M" wrote: > I was just up in the that area... so to give you a heads up there is > road work going on on the 121 between Napa and Sonoma NO SHOULDER so > if you go that way be careful! The Oakville Grade Rd/Trinity Rd is > gorgeous, but you'll need to bring your hill climbing shoes ;) > -Andy > > On Aug 5, 11:30 am, ian connelly wrote: > > > > > (caveat: i haven't done this ride exactly, but have ridden from north > > of santa rosa through napa to vallejo, and have done a lot of riding > > in marin. i would also be eager to hear input from santa rosa/sonoma > > locals!) > > > i'd suggest you take the ferry (either to larkspur or vallejo) to get > > started. only problem is that to take the ferry to either of those > > spots you can't go from oakland, but must start in SF. since you seem > > willing to BART you could always start by doing that. you can also > > take the ferry from jack london to the ferry building and sf and > > transfer (checkhttp://www.eastbayferry.com/forschedules etc). > > > from vallejo...well, you'd have to ride along hwy 29 to get to napa, > > and it's not very pleasant. wide shoulder but trafficky. (the bay > > trail is not yet finished between napa and vallejo, though they are > > making progress). once in napa, the easiest route would probably be > > via the silverado trail, then cut over to the west at st helena and go > > into santa rosa via spring mountain/st helena/calistoga. steep, > > narrow. > > you could also devise a route that got you to hwy 12 without having to > > go on the busiest roads, but you'd likely have to do a stint along 12 > > or 121 at some point, and on the weekends these roads are congested > > with drivers and would not be fun. also, since many tourists are in > > the area to drink wine, i would try to avoid riding them after noon if > > you must ride them at all. > > > via marin - little more wander-y, but you could take the ferry to > > larkspur, head west along sir francis drake past fairfax, turn towards > > to nicasio valley road (just past san geronimo), then turn right on > > petaluma-point reyes road...then, when you get to petaluma, head north > > via either stony point (west of 101) or redwood/petaluma hill road > > (east of 101). these are probably the most direct if semi-trafficky > > options, so ymmv depending. > > > (after i wrote this i checked google maps' bike option - google > > suggests the petaluma hill route - 65 miles, 6.5 hours. napa route > > adds 20 miles. good luck!) > > > ian > > > On Aug 3, 11:14 am, CR Masterson wrote: > > > > I'm happy to BART across the bay, head up through Marin. Or any other > > > way you have fallen in love with. It would be nice avoid huge trucks, > > > mondo hills and traveling way out of the way as much as possible. > > > Thanks.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Canti Rom Sizing
I am just shy of 6'2" (PBH of 89) and ride a 63cm Canti Rom, usually with 28's or 32's. Works for me, but did seem a little tall at first. Ralph jandrews_nyc wrote: Hi, I am helping a friend who is interested in purchasing a used Cantilever Romulus. His PBH is 84. The bike is a 59. Riv website says for most smaller/av riders its PBH minus around 25 to get frame size...thats 84-25 = 59!but I'm nervous it will be way up there and the Romulus geometry chart has the standover for the Rom listed as 83.8cm and that's on 700x27's. He'd like to put 700x35's on. Can anyone help me with this. Experience with this frame. Is a 59 just a bit too big for a 5'9'' rider with a PBH of 84? Thank you! Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: The Bicycle Conspiracy
with a fixed second link On Aug 5, 4:07 pm, Mojo wrote: > This: > > http://www.denverpost.com/election2010/ci_15673894?source=email > > and scientific proof: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/bik...@danenet.org/msg06690.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] The Bicycle Conspiracy
This: http://www.denverpost.com/election2010/ci_15673894?source=email and scientific proof: http://www.mail-archive.com/bik...@danenet.org/msg06690.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:42 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > > When you crest out 60 seconds behind yourself, and the other you is riding > a > skinny-tired bike downhill at speed over even slightly degraded pavement, > the you riding the phenomenally stable, large-tire allowing Rivendell > design > will pretty easily catch up to the now-very-nervous-and-vibrating you, and, > while toasting them with the cookie, easily zip through the next chicane > and > disappear from sight. But, you are also nice enough to ease up on the > pedals > when you hit the level ground, so that the other you can catch up. > Reminds me of the Beryl Burton anecdote: Men's time trial, she passes her male predecessor after a while: "Care for a sweet, luv?" But as to descents. No, your skinny wheeled bike is not necessarily going to handicap you on downhills, either in speed or handling. My Rivs (to say it again, ad nauseam) descended very well when they were coasters, even on sub-par pavement, and with no darting or wobbling, either. Perhaps it's the almost 45 cm chainstays. And weight certainly helps on downhills. I remember riding with erstwhile Boblist member Gary "9K miles in a bad year" Blakely down the 7 mile Tramway descent -- he could drop me like someone else's dirty handkerchief on the uphill -- and I would, just coasting, leave him behind every time. (Not that I am fat, I beg you all to understand, but he was 130 or so and I a good 40 lb heavier.) > > Palabra. > > - Jim > > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com > > > "Nigel did some work for some of the other riders at Allied, onces who > still > rode metal. He hadn't liked it when Chevette had gone for a paper frame." > -- William Gibson, "Virtual Light" > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data
I rode my 559X22MM shod, lightwheeled Riv Commuter (~ 22 lbs with fenders, Tubus Fly, SON, Edeluxe, rear lights) with small load today, and I was having a blast standing to accelerate out of corners and on rises. Why? Yesterday I rode the heavy Sam Hill with its heavy, 622X33.33 wheels (and, to be fair, a heavier load, but that's the point, no?) that felt like molasses in comparison. Patrick "cookies? Pah! Give me a PB&J burrito!" Moore On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:42 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > on 8/4/10 9:57 PM, Anne Paulson at anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:44 PM, doug peterson wrote: > >> Anne presents a concise thought exercise, pertinent to the original > >> post. While I agree that subtle differences in weight can make > >> significant differences in speed and/or time, I'll gladly haul the > >> cookies. > >> > > > > Of course, I omitted the other side of the story. I'm the one in my > > group who rides a Rivendell and carries cookies in a saddlebag. The > > others ride carbon fiber bikes, no saddlebags, no triple cranksets, > > and they barely carry anything. Yet I still climb faster than some of > > them-- because my bike is so comfortable, cookies on bike rides so > > delicious, and low gears so great, that I ride all the time. Better to > > have five pounds less on me and five pounds more on a great bike. > > Anne wins. > > Cookies are good. > > Also, I've found from personal experience that if you bring baked goods on > long rides, people will happily wait for you at the top of hills. Maybe > not > every hill, but enough that you don't have to worry about being picked off > by predatory animals when you are out back of beyond. > > And, if folks do want to see the effects of weight on climbing, there are > tools at Analytic Cycling that allow you to do that with great specificity. > > http://analyticcycling.com > > It comes up in a few of the analysis articles in Bicycle Quarterly. > > I'll also add to Anne's scenario - > > When you crest out 60 seconds behind yourself, and the other you is riding > a > skinny-tired bike downhill at speed over even slightly degraded pavement, > the you riding the phenomenally stable, large-tire allowing Rivendell > design > will pretty easily catch up to the now-very-nervous-and-vibrating you, and, > while toasting them with the cookie, easily zip through the next chicane > and > disappear from sight. But, you are also nice enough to ease up on the > pedals > when you hit the level ground, so that the other you can catch up. > > Palabra. > > - Jim > > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com > > > "Nigel did some work for some of the other riders at Allied, onces who > still > rode metal. He hadn't liked it when Chevette had gone for a paper frame." > -- William Gibson, "Virtual Light" > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data
on 8/4/10 9:57 PM, Anne Paulson at anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:44 PM, doug peterson wrote: >> Anne presents a concise thought exercise, pertinent to the original >> post. While I agree that subtle differences in weight can make >> significant differences in speed and/or time, I'll gladly haul the >> cookies. >> > > Of course, I omitted the other side of the story. I'm the one in my > group who rides a Rivendell and carries cookies in a saddlebag. The > others ride carbon fiber bikes, no saddlebags, no triple cranksets, > and they barely carry anything. Yet I still climb faster than some of > them-- because my bike is so comfortable, cookies on bike rides so > delicious, and low gears so great, that I ride all the time. Better to > have five pounds less on me and five pounds more on a great bike. Anne wins. Cookies are good. Also, I've found from personal experience that if you bring baked goods on long rides, people will happily wait for you at the top of hills. Maybe not every hill, but enough that you don't have to worry about being picked off by predatory animals when you are out back of beyond. And, if folks do want to see the effects of weight on climbing, there are tools at Analytic Cycling that allow you to do that with great specificity. http://analyticcycling.com It comes up in a few of the analysis articles in Bicycle Quarterly. I'll also add to Anne's scenario - When you crest out 60 seconds behind yourself, and the other you is riding a skinny-tired bike downhill at speed over even slightly degraded pavement, the you riding the phenomenally stable, large-tire allowing Rivendell design will pretty easily catch up to the now-very-nervous-and-vibrating you, and, while toasting them with the cookie, easily zip through the next chicane and disappear from sight. But, you are also nice enough to ease up on the pedals when you hit the level ground, so that the other you can catch up. Palabra. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com "Nigel did some work for some of the other riders at Allied, onces who still rode metal. He hadn't liked it when Chevette had gone for a paper frame." -- William Gibson, "Virtual Light" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A tale of two Hillbornes
I'm interested...do you have pics and how much On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:50 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 7:00 PM, EricP wrote: > >> And I say the big one rides well. Test rode it a week or so ago. Was >> a cool ride. Too big for me as currently set up. (Maybe with a 7 or >> 8cm stem.) >> >> Damned odd. I've owned 3 Riv customs (still have 3) and all, especially > the last two, are wonderful in fit and handling; they are truly benchmarks. > The SH is not. Loaded, unloaded, front loaded, rear loaded, it just doesn't > come close to the customs. My 1973 Motobecane handles better load and rear > loaded despite its flexy 531 frame. My Monocog handles, at least, with less > wheel floppiness unladen, and this with 60 mm tires at 16/20. > > The SH isn't as 'twere actively bad, but it's no better, for me and in my > own personal experience -- note the qualifications! -- than average. Very > strange. > > Anyone want to buy a loaded, low miles SH, 56, Waterford, cantis? > > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Favorite route? Oakland to Santa Rosa
I was just up in the that area... so to give you a heads up there is road work going on on the 121 between Napa and Sonoma NO SHOULDER so if you go that way be careful! The Oakville Grade Rd/Trinity Rd is gorgeous, but you'll need to bring your hill climbing shoes ;) -Andy On Aug 5, 11:30 am, ian connelly wrote: > (caveat: i haven't done this ride exactly, but have ridden from north > of santa rosa through napa to vallejo, and have done a lot of riding > in marin. i would also be eager to hear input from santa rosa/sonoma > locals!) > > i'd suggest you take the ferry (either to larkspur or vallejo) to get > started. only problem is that to take the ferry to either of those > spots you can't go from oakland, but must start in SF. since you seem > willing to BART you could always start by doing that. you can also > take the ferry from jack london to the ferry building and sf and > transfer (checkhttp://www.eastbayferry.com/for schedules etc). > > from vallejo...well, you'd have to ride along hwy 29 to get to napa, > and it's not very pleasant. wide shoulder but trafficky. (the bay > trail is not yet finished between napa and vallejo, though they are > making progress). once in napa, the easiest route would probably be > via the silverado trail, then cut over to the west at st helena and go > into santa rosa via spring mountain/st helena/calistoga. steep, > narrow. > you could also devise a route that got you to hwy 12 without having to > go on the busiest roads, but you'd likely have to do a stint along 12 > or 121 at some point, and on the weekends these roads are congested > with drivers and would not be fun. also, since many tourists are in > the area to drink wine, i would try to avoid riding them after noon if > you must ride them at all. > > via marin - little more wander-y, but you could take the ferry to > larkspur, head west along sir francis drake past fairfax, turn towards > to nicasio valley road (just past san geronimo), then turn right on > petaluma-point reyes road...then, when you get to petaluma, head north > via either stony point (west of 101) or redwood/petaluma hill road > (east of 101). these are probably the most direct if semi-trafficky > options, so ymmv depending. > > (after i wrote this i checked google maps' bike option - google > suggests the petaluma hill route - 65 miles, 6.5 hours. napa route > adds 20 miles. good luck!) > > ian > > On Aug 3, 11:14 am, CR Masterson wrote: > > > > > I'm happy to BART across the bay, head up through Marin. Or any other > > way you have fallen in love with. It would be nice avoid huge trucks, > > mondo hills and traveling way out of the way as much as possible. > > Thanks.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Favorite route? Oakland to Santa Rosa
(caveat: i haven't done this ride exactly, but have ridden from north of santa rosa through napa to vallejo, and have done a lot of riding in marin. i would also be eager to hear input from santa rosa/sonoma locals!) i'd suggest you take the ferry (either to larkspur or vallejo) to get started. only problem is that to take the ferry to either of those spots you can't go from oakland, but must start in SF. since you seem willing to BART you could always start by doing that. you can also take the ferry from jack london to the ferry building and sf and transfer (check http://www.eastbayferry.com/ for schedules etc). from vallejo...well, you'd have to ride along hwy 29 to get to napa, and it's not very pleasant. wide shoulder but trafficky. (the bay trail is not yet finished between napa and vallejo, though they are making progress). once in napa, the easiest route would probably be via the silverado trail, then cut over to the west at st helena and go into santa rosa via spring mountain/st helena/calistoga. steep, narrow. you could also devise a route that got you to hwy 12 without having to go on the busiest roads, but you'd likely have to do a stint along 12 or 121 at some point, and on the weekends these roads are congested with drivers and would not be fun. also, since many tourists are in the area to drink wine, i would try to avoid riding them after noon if you must ride them at all. via marin - little more wander-y, but you could take the ferry to larkspur, head west along sir francis drake past fairfax, turn towards to nicasio valley road (just past san geronimo), then turn right on petaluma-point reyes road...then, when you get to petaluma, head north via either stony point (west of 101) or redwood/petaluma hill road (east of 101). these are probably the most direct if semi-trafficky options, so ymmv depending. (after i wrote this i checked google maps' bike option - google suggests the petaluma hill route - 65 miles, 6.5 hours. napa route adds 20 miles. good luck!) ian On Aug 3, 11:14 am, CR Masterson wrote: > I'm happy to BART across the bay, head up through Marin. Or any other > way you have fallen in love with. It would be nice avoid huge trucks, > mondo hills and traveling way out of the way as much as possible. > Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A tale of two Hillbornes
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 7:00 PM, EricP wrote: > And I say the big one rides well. Test rode it a week or so ago. Was > a cool ride. Too big for me as currently set up. (Maybe with a 7 or > 8cm stem.) > > Damned odd. I've owned 3 Riv customs (still have 3) and all, especially the last two, are wonderful in fit and handling; they are truly benchmarks. The SH is not. Loaded, unloaded, front loaded, rear loaded, it just doesn't come close to the customs. My 1973 Motobecane handles better load and rear loaded despite its flexy 531 frame. My Monocog handles, at least, with less wheel floppiness unladen, and this with 60 mm tires at 16/20. The SH isn't as 'twere actively bad, but it's no better, for me and in my own personal experience -- note the qualifications! -- than average. Very strange. Anyone want to buy a loaded, low miles SH, 56, Waterford, cantis? -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crankset
> Joel, How many cogs can you use per chainring without rubbing ? Is > yours a double or triple? I have a Zephyr Light double paired with a 6 speed freewheel on one bike and a Carmina triple paired with a 7 speed freewheel. On Aug 5, 11:21 am, Garth wrote: > On Aug 5, 11:19 am, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > No skin off my nose what anyone choses to buy. All my multi-speed > > bikes have 6 -7 speed freewheels. All of them have new model TA > > cranks up front with TA rings. Chains are all Wipperman, I believe 8 > > speed. Derailleurs are Campy front, Campy or Shimano rear. Shifters > > are Simplex Retrofriction. I have not had a problem shifting. > > Joel, How many cogs can you use per chainring without rubbing ? Is > yours a double or triple? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crankset
On Aug 5, 11:19 am, JoelMatthews wrote: > No skin off my nose what anyone choses to buy. All my multi-speed > bikes have 6 -7 speed freewheels. All of them have new model TA > cranks up front with TA rings. Chains are all Wipperman, I believe 8 > speed. Derailleurs are Campy front, Campy or Shimano rear. Shifters > are Simplex Retrofriction. I have not had a problem shifting. > Joel, How many cogs can you use per chainring without rubbing ? Is yours a double or triple? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 3 Rivs for sale
They're right here: http://tinyurl.com/2g3nst5 On Aug 4, 6:58 pm, steve wrote: > I have an Atlantis 56, an Atlantis 64, and a Romulus 59 listed for > sale on craigslist, location Washington DC. I would welcome inquiries > from list members. If I were smarter with internet, I would put the > links here, but don't know how to do that. > > Some may wonder why so many Rivs for sale of such divergent sizes. > The Atlantis 56 and Romulus 59 have been my personal bikes. I need to > downsize for family reasons. The Atlantis 64 was sold to me on > craigslist with a different size listed and the seller would not > respond to my inquiries after it arrived--one of those craigslist > lessons. > > Anyway, these bikes are looking for a good home. If interested, > please respond off list. > > Thanks, Steve Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm yellow Quickbeam on SF CL
Aw, c'mon Ken - it would be a perfect match to your yellow Atlantis. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 4, 8:40 pm, Ken Yokanovich wrote: > I wouldn't think it too far out of line with some nice Phil Wood > wheels, fresh paint, and a saddle. It's the wrong size and fact that > seller is not interested in shipping that gets me :) > > On Aug 4, 7:27 pm, William wrote: > > > > > $1800 for a used QB is reasonably easy to resist. Thank goodness for > > that. > > > On Aug 4, 2:50 pm, "Jim M." wrote: > > > > Repainted with some nice components: > > > >http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/1874419334.html > > > > Not mine, and I don't know the owner. > > > > jim m > > > wc ca- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crankset
> This is what makes the sugino 0X08ID so appealing, It gets old > tweeking vintage parts to work right with new ones. It is engineered > from the get go to take a wide range double, full range of lengths > from 160-175 and I do not have to scour the glode looking for a decent > price on quality chainrings. No skin off my nose what anyone choses to buy. All my multi-speed bikes have 6 -7 speed freewheels. All of them have new model TA cranks up front with TA rings. Chains are all Wipperman, I believe 8 speed. Derailleurs are Campy front, Campy or Shimano rear. Shifters are Simplex Retrofriction. I have not had a problem shifting. On Aug 5, 9:40 am, rperks wrote: > Think of the bevel as your micro spacer, shifting the center of the > tooth profile left. I think it is technically backwards, the pics on > peter white's page show the text facing out. But the 9sp chain was > wedging itself to a complete stop, one side against the large ring, > the rollers on the teeth, not wedged between the rings, as in when w > etry 9sp chaains on our old 7sp mtn stuff. > > This is what makes the sugino 0X08ID so appealing, It gets old > tweeking vintage parts to work right with new ones. It is engineered > from the get go to take a wide range double, full range of lengths > from 160-175 and I do not have to scour the glode looking for a decent > price on quality chainrings. > > Rob > > On Aug 5, 4:10 am, Garth wrote: > > > > > On Aug 4, 10:57 pm, rperks wrote: > > > > This may sound rediculous, but the middle ring may not be symetric, > > > and may do better flipped. On my 50-30 Ritchey compact set up on my > > > Roadeo I have the outer ring with the text/etching facing out, and the > > > middle ring has the text facing in or left. 9sp chain with an IRD > > > freewheel in the back. I initially had it with the text facing out > > > for both and the chain would not even ride on the middle ring withouth > > > grinding against the outer ring. Not a happy moment for a shiny new > > > set of TA rings. kind of odd but it runs like a dream now. > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/4379837357/in/set-72157622875811... > > > > Rob > > > Thanks for the tip it doesn't sound odd to me at all. Whatever > > works. My first thought was, what about shifting from the 24t ring? > > Since there would be no beveled edge on the inside. Then I remembered > > I still had a Specialized 36t ring from the 80's, and it had no > > beveled edge at all, and it worked fine shifting from a 26t ring. So I > > don't think the beveling adds anything. > > > If I knew how to remove those ramps on the big ring without damaging > > it I'd do that too.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crankset
Think of the bevel as your micro spacer, shifting the center of the tooth profile left. I think it is technically backwards, the pics on peter white's page show the text facing out. But the 9sp chain was wedging itself to a complete stop, one side against the large ring, the rollers on the teeth, not wedged between the rings, as in when w etry 9sp chaains on our old 7sp mtn stuff. This is what makes the sugino 0X08ID so appealing, It gets old tweeking vintage parts to work right with new ones. It is engineered from the get go to take a wide range double, full range of lengths from 160-175 and I do not have to scour the glode looking for a decent price on quality chainrings. Rob On Aug 5, 4:10 am, Garth wrote: > On Aug 4, 10:57 pm, rperks wrote: > > > This may sound rediculous, but the middle ring may not be symetric, > > and may do better flipped. On my 50-30 Ritchey compact set up on my > > Roadeo I have the outer ring with the text/etching facing out, and the > > middle ring has the text facing in or left. 9sp chain with an IRD > > freewheel in the back. I initially had it with the text facing out > > for both and the chain would not even ride on the middle ring withouth > > grinding against the outer ring. Not a happy moment for a shiny new > > set of TA rings. kind of odd but it runs like a dream now. > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/4379837357/in/set-72157622875811... > > > Rob > > Thanks for the tip it doesn't sound odd to me at all. Whatever > works. My first thought was, what about shifting from the 24t ring? > Since there would be no beveled edge on the inside. Then I remembered > I still had a Specialized 36t ring from the 80's, and it had no > beveled edge at all, and it worked fine shifting from a 26t ring. So I > don't think the beveling adds anything. > > If I knew how to remove those ramps on the big ring without damaging > it I'd do that too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 3 Rivs for sale
As a public service, this link gets you to all 3 (plus a bonus Sam from someone else): http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/search/bik?query=rivendell&srchType=A Gernot On Aug 5, 5:58 am, steve wrote: > I have an Atlantis 56, an Atlantis 64, and a Romulus 59 listed for > sale on craigslist, location Washington DC. I would welcome inquiries > from list members. If I were smarter with internet, I would put the > links here, but don't know how to do that. > > Some may wonder why so many Rivs for sale of such divergent sizes. > The Atlantis 56 and Romulus 59 have been my personal bikes. I need to > downsize for family reasons. The Atlantis 64 was sold to me on > craigslist with a different size listed and the seller would not > respond to my inquiries after it arrived--one of those craigslist > lessons. > > Anyway, these bikes are looking for a good home. If interested, > please respond off list. > > Thanks, Steve Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Acorn, Carradice, Nitto, RBW, Tubus, Brooks, Filson
Jitensha bars and technomic stem are sold. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Canti Rom Sizing
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:32 AM, jandrews_nyc wrote: > Hi, > I am helping a friend who is interested in purchasing a used > Cantilever Romulus. His PBH is 84. The bike is a 59. Riv website > says for most smaller/av riders its PBH minus around 25 to get frame > size...thats 84-25 = 59!but I'm nervous it will be way up there > and the Romulus geometry chart has the standover for the Rom listed as > 83.8cm and that's on 700x27's. He'd like to put 700x35's on. > Can anyone help me with this. Experience with this frame. Is a 59 > just a bit too big for a 5'9'' rider with a PBH of 84? 35-27 = 8 8/2 = 4 so the height of the bike should only go up by about 4mm. 84.2 Now - a person with an 84cm pbh has that while barefoot. Normally, you don't bicycle barefoot. So factor in whatever the avg height of the soles on some shoes - normally 1-1.5cm is not ridiculous. so now their standover is clear by about a cm. It's not much - but it should be enough. I think the thing you should be thinking about, though, is TT length. Is your friend going to be all kinds of stretched out? Figure out that dimension, too. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Canti Rom Sizing
Hi, I am helping a friend who is interested in purchasing a used Cantilever Romulus. His PBH is 84. The bike is a 59. Riv website says for most smaller/av riders its PBH minus around 25 to get frame size...thats 84-25 = 59!but I'm nervous it will be way up there and the Romulus geometry chart has the standover for the Rom listed as 83.8cm and that's on 700x27's. He'd like to put 700x35's on. Can anyone help me with this. Experience with this frame. Is a 59 just a bit too big for a 5'9'' rider with a PBH of 84? Thank you! Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crankset
On Aug 4, 10:57 pm, rperks wrote: > This may sound rediculous, but the middle ring may not be symetric, > and may do better flipped. On my 50-30 Ritchey compact set up on my > Roadeo I have the outer ring with the text/etching facing out, and the > middle ring has the text facing in or left. 9sp chain with an IRD > freewheel in the back. I initially had it with the text facing out > for both and the chain would not even ride on the middle ring withouth > grinding against the outer ring. Not a happy moment for a shiny new > set of TA rings. kind of odd but it runs like a dream now. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/4379837357/in/set-72157622875811... > > Rob > Thanks for the tip it doesn't sound odd to me at all. Whatever works. My first thought was, what about shifting from the 24t ring? Since there would be no beveled edge on the inside. Then I remembered I still had a Specialized 36t ring from the 80's, and it had no beveled edge at all, and it worked fine shifting from a 26t ring. So I don't think the beveling adds anything. If I knew how to remove those ramps on the big ring without damaging it I'd do that too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data
"This time we stopped for beer and took them back to our starting point and enjoyed a cold frothy beverage coupled with casual conversation while dodging mosquitoes in the cool evening air. Overall a very pleasant and satisfying time. These scenarios are what makes riding with others enjoyable for me." Very well put Charlie! Angus On Aug 4, 10:46 pm, charlie wrote: > I live in the foothills of Mt. Rainier in Washington State.no > matter where I go I have steep hills, its quite aggravating really. My > gearing is 22x32x44 & 32-12 if that tells you anything. > I'd rather carry the cookies so I could eat them but I see your point. > You are correct, a lighter bike is easier to climb with if that is > your goal. > My two friends and I just rode a very short 8 mile blast to the local > feed store. I ride a 30+ pound bike with 900 gram tires and they ride > bikes around 24-26 pounds with narrow 350 gram tires but we have > varying abilities and body weight along with various knee conditions > so if one of us gets ahead we wait for the others and don't worry > about it. This time we stopped for beer and took them back to our > starting point and enjoyed a cold frothy beverage coupled with casual > conversation while dodging mosquitoes in the cool evening air. Overall > a very pleasant and satisfying time. These scenarios are what makes > riding with others enjoyable for me. If I ride with folks who get > cranky when they have to wait for me or who leave me in their dust all > the time I just ride by myself. As I get older its more about a good > time with good friends. We seldom, if ever, talk of bike weights and > except for some friendly competitiveness once in a while we really > just prefer to ride and get our tired old selves moving. I'd like a > Roadeo but its not built to handle my weight so I'll ride my slow bike > with big tires and carry the cookies..and the beer! = ) > > On Aug 4, 2:01 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 12:51 AM, charlie wrote: > > > What I am talking about is minor weight differences (as the original > > > poster mentioned) like between a 23 pound bike and say a 29 pounder. > > > Those differences can't amount to much > > > OK, let's say I compare my 23 pound bike with that same 23 pound bike, > > but with six pounds of... something... added. Food. Cookies, say. I > > and my twin will ride side by side, me on the unladen bike, OtherAnne > > on the bike with the cookies. > > -- > > OK, we're climbing our favorite hill, which usually takes us around 30 > > minutes. Say that I, with all of my bike clothes and everything, weigh > > 170 pounds. So I have a total of 193 pounds on the unladen bike, and > > OtherAnne has 199 pounds, about a three percent difference. Air > > resistance is negligible at climbing speed < 10 mph; speed is linear > > on total weight. > > > I drop OtherAnne like a bad habit. She's over a minute behind; I can't > > even see her. By the time she finally makes it to the top, I start > > making references to having to use a calendar to time her. (Of course, > > I can't have a cookie while I'm waiting, because she is carrying > > them.) > > > Where I live, cyclists climb a lot of long hills that take over half > > an hour, because the flats have traffic and stoplights. If I'm giving > > away over a minute on every hill to my friends with lighter bikes, > > that might not be vitally important, but it's not nothing, either. > > > -- Anne Paulson > > > My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: For sale: Ixon IQ Light
I have a Ride and Charge available that will allow charging the batteries in this light off of a dyno. Barely used: $25 plus shipping. On Aug 5, 12:59 am, Adam Kimball wrote: > Hi all, > > Back in 2007, I bought a nice Ixon IQ (head)light for my ride. I used > it rarely, but thought to pull it out recently and found it was dead. > So, I sent it back to Peter White and he sent me a new one -- > literally, brand new. I have the invoice and I'll pass it on to you. > The light sells for $115 from Peter White Cycles. I'd like to get $85 > for this one. It is the light and the bar mount only - no charger, > fork crown mount, or other extras. But you can buy this stuff from > Peter White if you want it. This is the black "LED-IQ" light. > > Let me know if you are interested. I'm selling because I see a > Schmidt hub in my Big Dummy's future. No Riv at the moment, but in > due time (again). > > Best, > Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
