[RBW] A small step forward?
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[RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?
I have them on my Quickbeam, but not Bombadil. While I agree with the gist of the article in the RR, about the tragedy of fool-proofing everything in sight, the LLs on the QB do not really bother me.I rarely remove the front wheel to fix a flat (schwalbe!) and when I do, I'm not usually in a hurry. And even if I were, I can dial out the QR to clear the lips and then dial it back in pretty fast.Now, the articles on the Idaho Stop and helmet laws... with thoose I agree down to the marrow. :D -Matt On May 6, 8:43 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: :( Darn, I loved the convenience of a quick flip, and even more the ease of reinstallation... Oh well, can't blame them. On May 6, 2011 5:42 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: My new Waterford-built Bombadil has'm. I plan to use Pitlocks, so no big deal. On May 6, 4:49 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: I just read the RR article about proper quick release usage. It's unfortunate to see that Grant was dragged into a lawsuit over an improperly installed wheel -- I really hope that he prevails! While I understand the need for some sort of retention device on low end bikes (**), it seems silly to put them on high end bikes. This got me to thinking... I didn't look closely at the fork dropouts on the bikes when I was test riding: Will I find lawyer lips on my Waterford built AHH that's due to arrive in the new few weeks? Looking on Flickr I found some pictures that seem to indicate that I won't... http://www.flickr.com/photos/boxdogbikes/5061605656/ I surely hope not, though I'd understand if it were to happen. (**) A few months ago, while driving, I saw a teenage boy riding a department store bike with a floppy QR skewer on the sidewalk. I pulled off into a parking lot and intercepted the rider to fix it for him, worried that he'd go off a curb and lose the front wheel. I asked him if he knew how it worked, and he had no clue. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: bars for a simpleone?
I went with drops, and as this was my first Riv (QB Silver 60 cm) I asked the folks at Walnut creek what size bars I should get. I was drinking the kool aid about a larger frame than I had ever ridden, and I went with the 48 cm Noodles they recommended. I am 6'1 with a PBH of 86.5, and have a long torso and arms. The 10cm stem doesn't push the bars out too far, and it was the most comfortable bike I had ridden to date. I now have a RAM (60 cm) and an 80's Bianchi Vittoria (61 cm) with 48 cm Noodles also. There is something about my hands being that far apart that is relaxing! I have changed a lot of things on my Quickbeam, but love the bars. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrivers/sets/72157618452191962/with/5154208506/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: NYC Bike Shops
Howdy -- a NYC shop I've been wanting to visit is Brooklyn's new www.bespoke-bicycles.com. Learned about them when the founder posted this on EcoVelo: http://bit.ly/hkvbwf ... Rivish? In Manhattan, has anyone found anything more Rivish than Bicycle Habitat (244 250 Lafayette Street)? I've been having fun taking my Ram to my LBS (Sids on W 19th St) which caters to racers and urban hipsters and is decidedly non-Rivish. I say fun because every time I swing by with the bike, I educate the employees a little about how bikes should be designed. (The bike gets a lot of attention from customers and employees alike when in their shop. What is that? Cool bike, man. How old is that bike, dude? Why do you have such a huge frame?) For a while they had a mechanic from SF who knew all about Bridgestone and Riv, but he went back home. I second the vote for rivbike.com and roadtrips to Harris in W. Newton, MA. Will On May 5, 2:56 pm, Cycletex clifwrightpho...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyone have NYC bike shop suggestions that a Riv lover shouldn't miss out on? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Stem Strength
Ok, so the steel stem has a larger OD AND a stiffer modulus. Staying on the back of an envelope, the ratio of 31.6^2 to 22.2^2 is about 2. In which case your calc requires the ratio of moduli to be about 5. For steel it's about 30,000 ksi and for aluminum it's about 10,000 ksi. Not bad, for the back of an envelope, and no finite element work!! On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:15 AM, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: Hey, My back of the envelope calc's indicate a standard aluminum quill stem will deflect about ten times more than a steel stem. This is with equal extensions lengths and loads, and the aluminum stem has a solid 22.2mm diameter extension, and the steel stem is 31.8mm OD w/ 25.4mm ID extension. The extension into the fork vs. clamping on the outside of the fork are not significant here. By the way, neither stem deflects that much. If you really want a stiff stem, use a short extension, and big diameter. And steel too. And you know why they went to 31.8mm diameter handle bars? Because of the stinking cable grooves. The grooves make the bar section too flexible, the bigger diameter overcame this. Cheers! James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 On May 6, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Philip Williamson wrote: When I got my Quickbeam, I tried a couple of stems, including the stock Technomic Deluxe and the Nitto Dirt Drop. Both flexed noticeably more than the Salsa welded stem I ended up with. The Dirt Drop not as much as the Technomic Deluxe, but the quill was bottomed out in the steerer. Philip On May 6, 9:24 am, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: Back in 1991 I bought a Cannondale (very stiff frame) that came with a standard quill stem. I swapped it out for a hollow, welded stem that had a much larger diameter extension. The first time I stood up and cranked the bike up a short steep rise I was astonished at how much stiffer the front end of the bike felt. The quill stem was allowing the bars to twist, the new one wasn't. That may or may not be seen as a good thing, but I have no doubt that typical threadless stems are stiffer in torsion than traditional quill stems. Bill On May 6, 3:58 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: The new RR contains an article by GP outlining his believes about various aspects of bike strength, comfort, weight, and comfort. There wasn't much new there for anyone who has followed him for a few years, including why he prefers threaded headsets and stems, but it did trigger this question from me. My son, who is 39 years old and a very muscular 170 lbs claims that he experiences stem flex while climbing with a traditional quill stem. I am always disinclined to challenge people's subjective experience but I have never experienced this and suspect it is in his imagination. Has anyone here felt their stem flex and has anyone ever broken a stem? michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Low q factor, IT bands, and pedals
I know this has been gone over and over but I'm looking for some first hand experiences. I've noticed in the past few weeks that my leg hurts substantially more after riding my Bleriot with Ritchey/Sugino triple and RMX sneaker pedals than on my fixed Motobecane with a Sugino RD crank and MKS sylvans. Given that folks seem to correlate higher q factor (to a point) with lowered IT band pain I'm looking for solutions. Can I overcome this replacement spindles for the MKS pedals or would I be advised to get a crankset with a higher q factor for the Bleriot to alleviate my pain? -Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Stem Strength
Actual, the polar moment of inertia is to the 4th power: PI()(D^4-d^4)/32. Cheers! James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 On May 7, 2011, at 5:29 AM, Ken Freeman wrote: Ok, so the steel stem has a larger OD AND a stiffer modulus. Staying on the back of an envelope, the ratio of 31.6^2 to 22.2^2 is about 2. In which case your calc requires the ratio of moduli to be about 5. For steel it's about 30,000 ksi and for aluminum it's about 10,000 ksi. Not bad, for the back of an envelope, and no finite element work!! On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:15 AM, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: Hey, My back of the envelope calc's indicate a standard aluminum quill stem will deflect about ten times more than a steel stem. This is with equal extensions lengths and loads, and the aluminum stem has a solid 22.2mm diameter extension, and the steel stem is 31.8mm OD w/ 25.4mm ID extension. The extension into the fork vs. clamping on the outside of the fork are not significant here. By the way, neither stem deflects that much. If you really want a stiff stem, use a short extension, and big diameter. And steel too. And you know why they went to 31.8mm diameter handle bars? Because of the stinking cable grooves. The grooves make the bar section too flexible, the bigger diameter overcame this. Cheers! James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 On May 6, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Philip Williamson wrote: When I got my Quickbeam, I tried a couple of stems, including the stock Technomic Deluxe and the Nitto Dirt Drop. Both flexed noticeably more than the Salsa welded stem I ended up with. The Dirt Drop not as much as the Technomic Deluxe, but the quill was bottomed out in the steerer. Philip On May 6, 9:24 am, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: Back in 1991 I bought a Cannondale (very stiff frame) that came with a standard quill stem. I swapped it out for a hollow, welded stem that had a much larger diameter extension. The first time I stood up and cranked the bike up a short steep rise I was astonished at how much stiffer the front end of the bike felt. The quill stem was allowing the bars to twist, the new one wasn't. That may or may not be seen as a good thing, but I have no doubt that typical threadless stems are stiffer in torsion than traditional quill stems. Bill On May 6, 3:58 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: The new RR contains an article by GP outlining his believes about various aspects of bike strength, comfort, weight, and comfort. There wasn't much new there for anyone who has followed him for a few years, including why he prefers threaded headsets and stems, but it did trigger this question from me. My son, who is 39 years old and a very muscular 170 lbs claims that he experiences stem flex while climbing with a traditional quill stem. I am always disinclined to challenge people's subjective experience but I have never experienced this and suspect it is in his imagination. Has anyone here felt their stem flex and has anyone ever broken a stem? michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: bars for a simpleone?
I generally dislike wide bars -- I use 42s on my road bikes and the new Herse came with Belleri drop bars 38 or 39 cm at the hoods -- but I do like the 46 cm Noodles on the Fargo, where I have them considerably higher than on the road bikes. Part of this is because they give me a much wider flat, useful for unweighting the front wheel in sand while still maintaining control, but I also find them comfortable in the hooks (with the very high bars -- 8 cm or so above saddle -- the hooks are my standard pavement and firm dirt riding position). But I didn't like the same bars when they were positioned lower. 5'10 with Asian build. FWIW, I've tried most of the short and wide dirt drop type bars out there and find the Noodles better for off road. On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 5:40 AM, Michael Rivers mriver...@gmail.com wrote: I went with drops, and as this was my first Riv (QB Silver 60 cm) I asked the folks at Walnut creek what size bars I should get. I was drinking the kool aid about a larger frame than I had ever ridden, and I went with the 48 cm Noodles they recommended. I am 6'1 with a PBH of 86.5, and have a long torso and arms. The 10cm stem doesn't push the bars out too far, and it was the most comfortable bike I had ridden to date. I now have a RAM (60 cm) and an 80's Bianchi Vittoria (61 cm) with 48 cm Noodles also. There is something about my hands being that far apart that is relaxing! I have changed a lot of things on my Quickbeam, but love the bars. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrivers/sets/72157618452191962/with/5154208506/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Stem Strength
I suspect that the introduction of carbon fiber bars had something to do with the introduction of 31.8 mm bars as well. Bill On May 6, 10:15 pm, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: Hey, My back of the envelope calc's indicate a standard aluminum quill stem will deflect about ten times more than a steel stem. This is with equal extensions lengths and loads, and the aluminum stem has a solid 22.2mm diameter extension, and the steel stem is 31.8mm OD w/ 25.4mm ID extension. The extension into the fork vs. clamping on the outside of the fork are not significant here. By the way, neither stem deflects that much. If you really want a stiff stem, use a short extension, and big diameter. And steel too. And you know why they went to 31.8mm diameter handle bars? Because of the stinking cable grooves. The grooves make the bar section too flexible, the bigger diameter overcame this. Cheers! James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 On May 6, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Philip Williamson wrote: When I got my Quickbeam, I tried a couple of stems, including the stock Technomic Deluxe and the Nitto Dirt Drop. Both flexed noticeably more than the Salsa welded stem I ended up with. The Dirt Drop not as much as the Technomic Deluxe, but the quill was bottomed out in the steerer. Philip On May 6, 9:24 am, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: Back in 1991 I bought a Cannondale (very stiff frame) that came with a standard quill stem. I swapped it out for a hollow, welded stem that had a much larger diameter extension. The first time I stood up and cranked the bike up a short steep rise I was astonished at how much stiffer the front end of the bike felt. The quill stem was allowing the bars to twist, the new one wasn't. That may or may not be seen as a good thing, but I have no doubt that typical threadless stems are stiffer in torsion than traditional quill stems. Bill On May 6, 3:58 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: The new RR contains an article by GP outlining his believes about various aspects of bike strength, comfort, weight, and comfort. There wasn't much new there for anyone who has followed him for a few years, including why he prefers threaded headsets and stems, but it did trigger this question from me. My son, who is 39 years old and a very muscular 170 lbs claims that he experiences stem flex while climbing with a traditional quill stem. I am always disinclined to challenge people's subjective experience but I have never experienced this and suspect it is in his imagination. Has anyone here felt their stem flex and has anyone ever broken a stem? michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Low q factor, IT bands, and pedals
Justin, I had severe ITB pain that took me off the bike for several months. When the inflammation finally receded, I was limited to 10 miles for a while before it cropped back up. I still have it, and probably will forever, but it's greatly reduced to the point I can pretty much ride as long as I want. There will be little twinges here and there, but not the debilitating pain that it was. So, that said, my fit solution consisted of lowering my saddle ~5mm and going exclusively to SPD pedals. I canted my heel INBOARD as far as I could (angled toe out), and pushed the cleats OUTBOARD as far as possible to widen the Q factor. Now the cleats don't have a ton of adjustability, so that widening wasn't huge, *maybe *5mm or so each side, for a total 1cm wider Q. I can't isolate the one change that benefited me the most, but I would put my money on keeping my heel in with the SPDs. I also bought a foam roller and did some stretches, but haven't done those in a while. I'm slowly raising my saddles back up a bit. From what I've researched and talked to people, there isn't a single fix. It's a VERY individualized causation and therefore solution. All my good bookmarks have been deleted in the great crash of '11, but I'll try to dig through some gmail and forward you what I can find. On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.comwrote: I know this has been gone over and over but I'm looking for some first hand experiences. I've noticed in the past few weeks that my leg hurts substantially more after riding my Bleriot with Ritchey/Sugino triple and RMX sneaker pedals than on my fixed Motobecane with a Sugino RD crank and MKS sylvans. Given that folks seem to correlate higher q factor (to a point) with lowered IT band pain I'm looking for solutions. Can I overcome this replacement spindles for the MKS pedals or would I be advised to get a crankset with a higher q factor for the Bleriot to alleviate my pain? -Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?
I had them on my Qucikbeam, and hated them. More in principle than in practice as I didn't take the wheel off much. I love them on my Karate Monkey though. The forces of the disc brake and all the hits that bike gets makes me glad to have an extra retention system. It's a pain when putting it on the roof racks, but the extra 10 sec. doesn't bother me. On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:12 AM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.comwrote: I have them on my Quickbeam, but not Bombadil. While I agree with the gist of the article in the RR, about the tragedy of fool-proofing everything in sight, the LLs on the QB do not really bother me.I rarely remove the front wheel to fix a flat (schwalbe!) and when I do, I'm not usually in a hurry. And even if I were, I can dial out the QR to clear the lips and then dial it back in pretty fast.Now, the articles on the Idaho Stop and helmet laws... with thoose I agree down to the marrow. :D -Matt On May 6, 8:43 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: :( Darn, I loved the convenience of a quick flip, and even more the ease of reinstallation... Oh well, can't blame them. On May 6, 2011 5:42 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: My new Waterford-built Bombadil has'm. I plan to use Pitlocks, so no big deal. On May 6, 4:49 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: I just read the RR article about proper quick release usage. It's unfortunate to see that Grant was dragged into a lawsuit over an improperly installed wheel -- I really hope that he prevails! While I understand the need for some sort of retention device on low end bikes (**), it seems silly to put them on high end bikes. This got me to thinking... I didn't look closely at the fork dropouts on the bikes when I was test riding: Will I find lawyer lips on my Waterford built AHH that's due to arrive in the new few weeks? Looking on Flickr I found some pictures that seem to indicate that I won't... http://www.flickr.com/photos/boxdogbikes/5061605656/ I surely hope not, though I'd understand if it were to happen. (**) A few months ago, while driving, I saw a teenage boy riding a department store bike with a floppy QR skewer on the sidewalk. I pulled off into a parking lot and intercepted the rider to fix it for him, worried that he'd go off a curb and lose the front wheel. I asked him if he knew how it worked, and he had no clue. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] A small step forward?
Vindication!!! On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Big Paulie pauldgr...@yahoo.com wrote: http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/bikes-and-tech/ask-nick-fat-tire-fun-and-mavic-race-support_171343 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Stem Strength
With carbon fiber, all the old standards are thrown out! James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 On May 7, 2011, at 7:01 AM, Bill M. wrote: I suspect that the introduction of carbon fiber bars had something to do with the introduction of 31.8 mm bars as well. Bill On May 6, 10:15 pm, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: Hey, My back of the envelope calc's indicate a standard aluminum quill stem will deflect about ten times more than a steel stem. This is with equal extensions lengths and loads, and the aluminum stem has a solid 22.2mm diameter extension, and the steel stem is 31.8mm OD w/ 25.4mm ID extension. The extension into the fork vs. clamping on the outside of the fork are not significant here. By the way, neither stem deflects that much. If you really want a stiff stem, use a short extension, and big diameter. And steel too. And you know why they went to 31.8mm diameter handle bars? Because of the stinking cable grooves. The grooves make the bar section too flexible, the bigger diameter overcame this. Cheers! James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 On May 6, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Philip Williamson wrote: When I got my Quickbeam, I tried a couple of stems, including the stock Technomic Deluxe and the Nitto Dirt Drop. Both flexed noticeably more than the Salsa welded stem I ended up with. The Dirt Drop not as much as the Technomic Deluxe, but the quill was bottomed out in the steerer. Philip On May 6, 9:24 am, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: Back in 1991 I bought a Cannondale (very stiff frame) that came with a standard quill stem. I swapped it out for a hollow, welded stem that had a much larger diameter extension. The first time I stood up and cranked the bike up a short steep rise I was astonished at how much stiffer the front end of the bike felt. The quill stem was allowing the bars to twist, the new one wasn't. That may or may not be seen as a good thing, but I have no doubt that typical threadless stems are stiffer in torsion than traditional quill stems. Bill On May 6, 3:58 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: The new RR contains an article by GP outlining his believes about various aspects of bike strength, comfort, weight, and comfort. There wasn't much new there for anyone who has followed him for a few years, including why he prefers threaded headsets and stems, but it did trigger this question from me. My son, who is 39 years old and a very muscular 170 lbs claims that he experiences stem flex while climbing with a traditional quill stem. I am always disinclined to challenge people's subjective experience but I have never experienced this and suspect it is in his imagination. Has anyone here felt their stem flex and has anyone ever broken a stem? michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: NYC Bike Shops
Do visit Bespoke! They're great and definitely the most Rivish shop in NYC. Quite small, though. Melanie On May 7, 8:10 am, Will M wpm...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy -- a NYC shop I've been wanting to visit is Brooklyn's ne.bespoke-bicycles.com. Learned about them when the founder posted this on EcoVelo:http://bit.ly/hkvbwf... Rivish? In Manhattan, has anyone found anything more Rivish than Bicycle Habitat (244 250 Lafayette Street)? I've been having fun taking my Ram to my LBS (Sids on W 19th St) which caters to racers and urban hipsters and is decidedly non-Rivish. I say fun because every time I swing by with the bike, I educate the employees a little about how bikes should be designed. (The bike gets a lot of attention from customers and employees alike when in their shop. What is that? Cool bike, man. How old is that bike, dude? Why do you have such a huge frame?) For a while they had a mechanic from SF who knew all about Bridgestone and Riv, but he went back home. I second the vote for rivbike.com and roadtrips to Harris in W. Newton, MA. Will On May 5, 2:56 pm, Cycletex clifwrightpho...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyone have NYC bike shop suggestions that a Riv lover shouldn't miss out on? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Low q factor, IT bands, and pedals
I had tight IT bands that made my patelas feel strange when pushing bigger gears (because the kneecaps were being pulled off-center), which made me worry about my knees. Not exactly your symptoms, but probably the same underlying problem, and 3 or 4 trips to the sports medicine clinic at Cornell to have my IT bands stretched solved this problem completely with no recurrence in about 5 years. They also gave me a roller to stretch on and some other exercises, but the exercises were painful enough that I preferred to have someone else stretch my IT bands for me, and it worked great. (Btw, I am a not averse to stretching generally, being a yoga teacher, but those ITB stretches were unpleasant.) Hope this helps, Gernot On May 7, 9:29 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Justin, I had severe ITB pain that took me off the bike for several months. When the inflammation finally receded, I was limited to 10 miles for a while before it cropped back up. I still have it, and probably will forever, but it's greatly reduced to the point I can pretty much ride as long as I want. There will be little twinges here and there, but not the debilitating pain that it was. So, that said, my fit solution consisted of lowering my saddle ~5mm and going exclusively to SPD pedals. I canted my heel INBOARD as far as I could (angled toe out), and pushed the cleats OUTBOARD as far as possible to widen the Q factor. Now the cleats don't have a ton of adjustability, so that widening wasn't huge, *maybe *5mm or so each side, for a total 1cm wider Q. I can't isolate the one change that benefited me the most, but I would put my money on keeping my heel in with the SPDs. I also bought a foam roller and did some stretches, but haven't done those in a while. I'm slowly raising my saddles back up a bit. From what I've researched and talked to people, there isn't a single fix. It's a VERY individualized causation and therefore solution. All my good bookmarks have been deleted in the great crash of '11, but I'll try to dig through some gmail and forward you what I can find. On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.comwrote: I know this has been gone over and over but I'm looking for some first hand experiences. I've noticed in the past few weeks that my leg hurts substantially more after riding my Bleriot with Ritchey/Sugino triple and RMX sneaker pedals than on my fixed Motobecane with a Sugino RD crank and MKS sylvans. Given that folks seem to correlate higher q factor (to a point) with lowered IT band pain I'm looking for solutions. Can I overcome this replacement spindles for the MKS pedals or would I be advised to get a crankset with a higher q factor for the Bleriot to alleviate my pain? -Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?
I could be wrong, but I think this is a Waterford stipulation, not a Riv one. My 2009 Taiwanese Sam does not have lawyers lips, nor any other lawyer parts. Gernot On May 7, 7:43 am, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: :( Darn, I loved the convenience of a quick flip, and even more the ease of reinstallation... Oh well, can't blame them. On May 6, 2011 5:42 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: My new Waterford-built Bombadil has'm. I plan to use Pitlocks, so no big deal. On May 6, 4:49 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: I just read the RR article about proper quick release usage. It's unfortunate to see that Grant was dragged into a lawsuit over an improperly installed wheel -- I really hope that he prevails! While I understand the need for some sort of retention device on low end bikes (**), it seems silly to put them on high end bikes. This got me to thinking... I didn't look closely at the fork dropouts on the bikes when I was test riding: Will I find lawyer lips on my Waterford built AHH that's due to arrive in the new few weeks? Looking on Flickr I found some pictures that seem to indicate that I won't... http://www.flickr.com/photos/boxdogbikes/5061605656/ I surely hope not, though I'd understand if it were to happen. (**) A few months ago, while driving, I saw a teenage boy riding a department store bike with a floppy QR skewer on the sidewalk. I pulled off into a parking lot and intercepted the rider to fix it for him, worried that he'd go off a curb and lose the front wheel. I asked him if he knew how it worked, and he had no clue. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Low q factor, IT bands, and pedals
On May 7, 2011, at 7:56 AM, Justin August wrote: I know this has been gone over and over but I'm looking for some first hand experiences. I've noticed in the past few weeks that my leg hurts substantially more after riding my Bleriot with Ritchey/Sugino triple and RMX sneaker pedals than on my fixed Motobecane with a Sugino RD crank and MKS sylvans. Given that folks seem to correlate higher q factor (to a point) with lowered IT band pain I'm looking for solutions. Can I overcome this replacement spindles for the MKS pedals or would I be advised to get a crankset with a higher q factor for the Bleriot to alleviate my pain? There are multiple possibilities. Generally (not not necessarily), if the pain is on the outside of your knee, the Q factor is too low. If the pain is on the inside of your knee, the Q factor is too wide. If the pain is on the front of your knee, the saddle is too low. If the pain is behind your knee the saddle is too high. You may be able to address the problem by adjusting your saddle height or fore-aft placement. If the pain is on the outside of your knee below the joint line, as happened to me on PBP in 2003, you may be able to obtain relief by lowering your saddle just a few mm (about 3 mm, it's a tiny adjustment). That's counterintuitive but is what is recommended by Andy Pruitt. Basically this just changes the range of motion slightly and avoids the irritated area. Back in 2003-2005 I had recurrent problems with left knee pain, which turned out to be a torn medial meniscus (old martial arts injury, I think) which ended up needing arthroscopic surgery. So there is some possibility it's not the bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv reader, playthings?
It could have been worse: Toys. To my way of thinking, toys is actualy better---but it's kind of the same. Toys are playthings and both are for fun. Tools are for work, which can be satisfying, but often isn't fun. I think, at some level we find it easier to justify spending more on tools for serious work than on toys for playful fun...but there's too much serious work going on in many of our lives, and not enough playful fun, so...shift more toward the fun stuff...and to me (and I woulds guess most of you, and certainly for my comrade in fun Patrick Moore), bikes are fun toys! But it's all just labels, I guess, and as long as the playful element is there, I guess it doesn't matter how you describe them. B, Grant I sell expensive toys Petersen On May 6, 7:36 am, Bike Hermit bikeher...@biketouringnews.com wrote: u...did Grant really call bikes playthings in the new reader? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] sickdogeye
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[RBW] FS: Bike Parts
Hi everyone, I have a few things for sale: (i) mini Campy 10 gruppo, which includes: Chorus 10s Ergo Shifter (Aluminum Blades), Silver Chorus brakes (dual pivot front, single pivot rear), Chorus FD (31.8 clamp), and Record RD 10s part (has a bit of carbon but rest aluminum). Mechanically, this group is sound. There are some scratches and scuffs here and there and some surface rust. It'd definitely a rider group, not a showcase group. Tons of like left in this group. Just don't have a bike to put them on. $300 for the package; I'd like to sell as a set before parting out. (ii) Wheelset: Silver Open Pros 32h built of Hugi 240 hubs (Silver) with Campy cassette body (should work for 10 or 11 speed cassette as well as the later 9s). These were built by Joe Young of Joe Young wheels. Great shape. The rims do show wear typical of a used rim. I'm guessing you could get at least a few more years of use out of them. No skewers. I'd like $300 for the wheelset, which is less than the hubs would cost brand new and these hubs last forever. I prefer paypal. Thanks, Joe Joe Bartoe Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc. email: j...@synapticcycles.com website: www.synapticcycles.com Twitter: @synapticcycles phone: 949-374-6079 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] duomatic
Yup. New SA Duomatic coaster brake hub waiting for frame. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jandrews_nyc Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 8:13 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] duomatic Anyone planning to go new or n.o.s. 2 speed kickback hub on their new Simpleone? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: duomatic
interesting... I'm considering the freewheel version. This is available I think. Does anyone have experience with the newer SA ones? Comments of their quality would be very helpful. I imagine it could get a little expensive having a wheel built up around one of these instead of buying a budget single speed wheelset from Riv...so, I want to know what I'm getting into. I do love the idea of kicking back to engage a 2nd gear, but something about it seems precarious / tricky. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?
On May 7, 12:53 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: I could be wrong, but I think this is a Waterford stipulation, not a Riv one. My 2009 Taiwanese Sam does not have lawyers lips, nor any other lawyer parts. Gernot If it is a stipulation, it must not be a consistent one.I have a waterford tourer that doesn't have 'em, and waterford bombadil doesn't have them, but a Panasonic quickbeam that does have them. Maybe it has more to do with whatever dropouts the builder has laying around at the time... :D Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: duomatic
I've heard good things about these and am intrigued by the shifting mechanism, but don't think I'd be that into the coaster brake. I'm just hoping Rivendell is bringing back the Q/R Suzue hubs-they, uh, shift pretty reliably too heh heh. Matt On May 7, 2:31 pm, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: interesting... I'm considering the freewheel version. This is available I think. Does anyone have experience with the newer SA ones? Comments of their quality would be very helpful. I imagine it could get a little expensive having a wheel built up around one of these instead of buying a budget single speed wheelset from Riv...so, I want to know what I'm getting into. I do love the idea of kicking back to engage a 2nd gear, but something about it seems precarious / tricky. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: duomatic
Yeah, if I had it to do over again, I'd go for the f/w version, too. I was thinking you could build a really clean-looking bike (no brake calipers or levers, no derailleurs (obviously) or shifters), but now I'm thinking I don't want to rely solely on a coaster brake, so I'll probably have a Neo-Retro on the front. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of newenglandbike Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 2:42 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: duomatic I've heard good things about these and am intrigued by the shifting mechanism, but don't think I'd be that into the coaster brake. I'm just hoping Rivendell is bringing back the Q/R Suzue hubs-they, uh, shift pretty reliably too heh heh. Matt On May 7, 2:31 pm, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: interesting... I'm considering the freewheel version. This is available I think. Does anyone have experience with the newer SA ones? Comments of their quality would be very helpful. I imagine it could get a little expensive having a wheel built up around one of these instead of buying a budget single speed wheelset from Riv...so, I want to know what I'm getting into. I do love the idea of kicking back to engage a 2nd gear, but something about it seems precarious / tricky. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: duomatic
I'm using an 8 speed SA hub with a drum brake (on an '80s Fuji mountain bike), and it seems to be well built, no problems so far. Haven't built the Duomatic wheel yet, but the level of finish seems comparable to the 8 speed. Bobby Birmingham, who posts frequently to this group, seems to have extensive experience with modern SA hubs. montclairbob...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jandrews_nyc Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 2:31 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: duomatic interesting... I'm considering the freewheel version. This is available I think. Does anyone have experience with the newer SA ones? Comments of their quality would be very helpful. I imagine it could get a little expensive having a wheel built up around one of these instead of buying a budget single speed wheelset from Riv...so, I want to know what I'm getting into. I do love the idea of kicking back to engage a 2nd gear, but something about it seems precarious / tricky. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] A small step forward?
In a short video linked to from the Velo News piece that starts this thread there's some really cool looking high speed / slow-mo close up footage of bicycle tires deforming over the cobblestones. I've never seen anything like it found it very interesting (or maybe mostly cool looking...) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QSpuhIQg1A I found the footage compelling enough that I thought others might like to see it too. (Apologies if this has made the rounds.) Stuart Fletcher Seattle, WA On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 07:46, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Vindication!!! On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Big Paulie pauldgr...@yahoo.com wrote: http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/bikes-and-tech/ask-nick-fat-tire-fun-and-mavic-race-support_171343 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance. - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv reader, playthings?
Well I guess I'd rather it be called a toy than a fashion accessory, which is what many peoples' cars amount to. Not that my bikes aren't actually fashion accessories, which of course they are. *carefully coiffes hair* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv reader, playthings?
They really are unnecessary devices for the most part. I suppose if you use your bicycle as a commuter and a general way of getting around it becomes more of a tool but it soon takes on that grungy look of your 1992 Suzuki automobile sitting in the driveway. I find the maintenance issues that surround real high mileage riding quickly turn bicycling into something less than fun..for me. I like riding a pretty bicycle on a sunny day and I have no guilt about it.life is too short not to enjoy it now. Three cheers for expensive toys !!! I'm leaving mine to whomever can appreciate them. On May 7, 10:32 am, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: It could have been worse: Toys. To my way of thinking, toys is actualy better---but it's kind of the same. Toys are playthings and both are for fun. Tools are for work, which can be satisfying, but often isn't fun. I think, at some level we find it easier to justify spending more on tools for serious work than on toys for playful fun...but there's too much serious work going on in many of our lives, and not enough playful fun, so...shift more toward the fun stuff...and to me (and I woulds guess most of you, and certainly for my comrade in fun Patrick Moore), bikes are fun toys! But it's all just labels, I guess, and as long as the playful element is there, I guess it doesn't matter how you describe them. B, Grant I sell expensive toys Petersen On May 6, 7:36 am, Bike Hermit bikeher...@biketouringnews.com wrote: u...did Grant really call bikes playthings in the new reader? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv reader, playthings?
On May 7, 3:29 pm, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: They really are unnecessary devices for the most part. I suppose if you use your bicycle as a commuter and a general way of getting around it becomes more of a tool but it soon takes on that grungy look of your 1992 Suzuki automobile sitting in the driveway. The USA really is a unique place, and our treatment of bicycles is no exception. Yet in some parts of the world, to some people, a bicycle is about as unnecessary as a plow.And that may be selling it short. This is from Energy and Equity, by Ivan Illich: Man, unaided by any tool, gets around quite efficiently. He carries one gram of his weight over a kilometer in ten minutes by expending 0.75 calories. Man on his feet is thermodynamically more efficient than any motorized vehicle and most animals. For his weight, he performs more work in locomotion than rats or oxen, less than horses or sturgeon. At this rate of efficiency man settled the world and made its history. Man on a bicycle can go three or four times faster than the pedestrian, but uses five times less energy in the process. He carries one gram of his weight over a kilometer of flat road at an expense of only 0.15 calories. The bicycle is the perfect transducer to match man's metabolic energy to the impedance of locomotion. Equipped with this tool, man outstrips the efficiency of not only all machines but all other animals as well. The invention of the ball-bearing... created an option between more freedom in equity and more speed.The bearing is an equally fundamental ingredient of two new types of locomotion, respectively symbolized by the bicycle and the car. The bicycle lifted man's automobility to a new order, beyond which progress is theoretically not possible. Bicycles are not only thermodynamically efficient, they are also cheap. With his much lower salary, the Chinese acquires his durable bicycle in a fraction of the working hours an American devotes to the purchase of his obsolescent car. The cost of public utilities needed to facilitate bicycle traffic versus the price of an infrastructure tailored to high speeds is proportionately even less than the price differential of the vehicles used in the two systems. In the bicycle system, engineered roads are necessary only at certain points of dense traffic, and people who live far from the surfaced path are not thereby automatically isolated as they would be if they depended on cars or trains. The bicycle has extended man's radius without shunting him onto roads he cannot walk. Where he cannot ride his bike, he can usually push it. The bicycle also uses little space. Eighteen bikes can be parked in the place of one car, thirty of them can move along in the space devoured by a single automobile. It takes three lanes of a given size to move 40,000 people across a bridge in one hour by using automated trains, four to move them on buses, twelve to move them in their cars, and only two lanes for them to pedal across on bicycles. Of all these vehicles, only the bicycle really allows people to go from door to door without walking. The cyclist can reach new destinations of his choice without his tool creating new locations from which he is barred. Now if you'll excuse me, I have some errands to run.*hops on pogo- stick and bounces over horizon* Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] duomatic
How is the braking, and the non-braking drag, with those 2-speeds? I've been tempted to build up a backup wheel for one or both of my Riv fixed gears using these hubs because they would allow, in addition to a climbing gear, coasting with the safety of a rear brake while not requiring me to install rear calipers. On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Yup. New SA Duomatic coaster brake hub waiting for frame. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jandrews_nyc Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 8:13 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] duomatic Anyone planning to go new or n.o.s. 2 speed kickback hub on their new Simpleone? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: duomatic
I've been happy with the S3X from Sturmey Archer. I think the quality is good. I'm still considering the S2 (non-coaster brake) kickback, and I have a vintage Sachs Automatic (like the kickback but no kicking) that I enjoyed on my Quickbeam. I think you could build an extremely cheap wheel around the S2 hub. ~ $100, using cheap wheel parts from Iro Cycles. IRO cycles has $15 rims (non-eyeletted), and might have spokes for cheap, as well. Tony said to call him about the spokes a couple weeks ago, but I didn't. The size I bought from him before were perfect for the S3X and Cold Fusion rim he sells, which may or may not be an unbranded Velocity Fusion. He also has $20 hubs, but the colors might not appeal to everyone. My ideal (non-fixed) wheelset would be a Shimano dynamo hub and S/A S2. Built with Iro's rims and spokes, it would be a fantastic value. $30 :: Rims $15 x 2 $32 :: Spokes $16 for 32 (?? could be double this) $68 :: S2 hub $120 :: Shimano dyno hub. $8 :: Rim tape _ $258 for a generator wheel and kickback hub. And there are cheaper dyno hubs. Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On May 7, 11:31 am, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: interesting... I'm considering the freewheel version. This is available I think. Does anyone have experience with the newer SA ones? Comments of their quality would be very helpful. I imagine it could get a little expensive having a wheel built up around one of these instead of buying a budget single speed wheelset from Riv...so, I want to know what I'm getting into. I do love the idea of kicking back to engage a 2nd gear, but something about it seems precarious / tricky. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv reader, playthings?
The USA really is a unique place, and our treatment of bicycles is no exception. Yet in some parts of the world, to some people, a bicycle is about as unnecessary as a plow.And that may be selling it short. This is from Energy and Equity, by Ivan Illich: Man, unaided by any tool, gets around quite efficiently. He carries one gram of his weight over a kilometer in ten minutes by expending 0.75 calories. Man on his feet is thermodynamically more efficient than any motorized vehicle and most animals. For his weight, he performs more work in locomotion than rats or oxen, less than horses or sturgeon. At this rate of efficiency man settled the world and made its history. Man on a bicycle can go three or four times faster than the pedestrian, but uses five times less energy in the process. He carries one gram of his weight over a kilometer of flat road at an expense of only 0.15 calories. The bicycle is the perfect transducer to match man's metabolic energy to the impedance of locomotion. Equipped with this tool, man outstrips the efficiency of not only all machines but all other animals as well. The invention of the ball-bearing... created an option between more freedom in equity and more speed.The bearing is an equally fundamental ingredient of two new types of locomotion, respectively symbolized by the bicycle and the car. The bicycle lifted man's automobility to a new order, beyond which progress is theoretically not possible. Bicycles are not only thermodynamically efficient, they are also cheap. With his much lower salary, the Chinese acquires his durable bicycle in a fraction of the working hours an American devotes to the purchase of his obsolescent car. The cost of public utilities needed to facilitate bicycle traffic versus the price of an infrastructure tailored to high speeds is proportionately even less than the price differential of the vehicles used in the two systems. In the bicycle system, engineered roads are necessary only at certain points of dense traffic, and people who live far from the surfaced path are not thereby automatically isolated as they would be if they depended on cars or trains. The bicycle has extended man's radius without shunting him onto roads he cannot walk. Where he cannot ride his bike, he can usually push it. The bicycle also uses little space. Eighteen bikes can be parked in the place of one car, thirty of them can move along in the space devoured by a single automobile. It takes three lanes of a given size to move 40,000 people across a bridge in one hour by using automated trains, four to move them on buses, twelve to move them in their cars, and only two lanes for them to pedal across on bicycles. Of all these vehicles, only the bicycle really allows people to go from door to door without walking. The cyclist can reach new destinations of his choice without his tool creating new locations from which he is barred. Now if you'll excuse me, I have some errands to run.*hops on pogo- stick and bounces over horizon* Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS - 64cm Trek TX500 Custom, NOS Sugino AT, Phil BB, Nitto Dirt Drop
Spring cleaning time - and saving for a Simpleone. I've dropped the price on my beautifully restored Trek TX500, with custom Blackburn Rando rack (a rear rack adapted for use up front) and Honjo Fenders. Chris Bishop of Bishop Bikes (winner of best steel bike at this years' NAHBS) did the framework - adding studs for Paul Racers, fender eyelets etc. Perfect paint by Circle A, and they added the frame- matching stripe to the Honjos. Also have a NOS 175mm Sugino AT crankset (no rings) that would look great on this vintage ride, and Phil BB with no use (115mm) and a used Nitto Dirt Drop stem with 26mm clamp from another past build. (Most scratches below the MAX mark) The bike was shown at last years' Cirque Du Cyclisme, and not ridden. Frameset, fenders and rack = $700 and I'll split shipping. AT Crankset = $75 + $5 shipping Phil BB = $75 + $5 shipping Dirt Drop Stem = $30 + $5 shipping If anyone wants it all, it's yours for $825 and I'll split shipping throw in the matching vintage Silca floor pump that I had Circle A do at the time they painted the frame fenders, and is shown in the last photo of the Flickr set below. It has the same Trek decals on it - so if you buy the frame - you GOTTA get this! If you only want the frame, or if other things sell first, I'll negotiate a fair price for the pump. Fist come. first served! PayPal preferred. Shipping on the frame will have to wait until May 23ish due to travel. Other things can be sent immediately. Reply offline - thanks. http://tinyurl.com/3ru8myv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] SimpleOne and Double/Double
Has anyone run a White Industries Double/Double drivetrain setup on their Quickbeam? Or maybe has plans to on their SimpleOne? Seems like a nice combination - rear Duo freewheel of 16/19, and front of either 38/35 or 34/31. They suggest the 38/35 for a 26 mtn bike, and the 38/35 for a 29'er... but it seems to me that the 38/35 would be best for a 700c mostly on-road riding bike. Am I confused? e.g. 38/16 and 35/19 seem like they would be better than 31/19 and 34/16... Anyone try this yet, or have a thought as to why this wouldn't be a great idea? :) Best, andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
It is a cool concept, made even cooler, IMHO, by the copious length of the QB dropout. It's about 2. So, whereas with the WI 'double/ double', you get to choose between front rings 3-teeth apart, the extra length of the Rivendell dropout gives you a mind-boggling span of 8 teeth to play with on the front rings-- and with the 16/19 in the rear, you can make that up to 11 teeth diff up front.Dang. So basically, you can run a 16/19 in the rear, and a 40/32 double up front, which comes stock with the new Simple One I believe. Then you put a 22t ACS f/w on the other side, and suddenly derailleurs start to look quaint.* -Matt *OK not really On May 7, 4:50 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone run a White Industries Double/Double drivetrain setup on their Quickbeam? Or maybe has plans to on their SimpleOne? Seems like a nice combination - rear Duo freewheel of 16/19, and front of either 38/35 or 34/31. They suggest the 38/35 for a 26 mtn bike, and the 38/35 for a 29'er... but it seems to me that the 38/35 would be best for a 700c mostly on-road riding bike. Am I confused? e.g. 38/16 and 35/19 seem like they would be better than 31/19 and 34/16... Anyone try this yet, or have a thought as to why this wouldn't be a great idea? :) Best, andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Stem Strength
OHH! I knew that, once upon a time! Cheers, back! On Saturday, May 7, 2011, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: Actual, the polar moment of inertia is to the 4th power: PI()(D^4-d^4)/32.Cheers! James Valiensi, PENorthridge, CAH818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 On May 7, 2011, at 5:29 AM, Ken Freeman wrote: Ok, so the steel stem has a larger OD AND a stiffer modulus. Staying on the back of an envelope, the ratio of 31.6^2 to 22.2^2 is about 2. In which case your calc requires the ratio of moduli to be about 5. For steel it's about 30,000 ksi and for aluminum it's about 10,000 ksi. Not bad, for the back of an envelope, and no finite element work!! On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:15 AM, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: Hey, My back of the envelope calc's indicate a standard aluminum quill stem will deflect about ten times more than a steel stem. This is with equal extensions lengths and loads, and the aluminum stem has a solid 22.2mm diameter extension, and the steel stem is 31.8mm OD w/ 25.4mm ID extension. The extension into the fork vs. clamping on the outside of the fork are not significant here. By the way, neither stem deflects that much. If you really want a stiff stem, use a short extension, and big diameter. And steel too. And you know why they went to 31.8mm diameter handle bars? Because of the stinking cable grooves. The grooves make the bar section too flexible, the bigger diameter overcame this. Cheers! James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 On May 6, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Philip Williamson wrote: When I got my Quickbeam, I tried a couple of stems, including the stock Technomic Deluxe and the Nitto Dirt Drop. Both flexed noticeably more than the Salsa welded stem I ended up with. The Dirt Drop not as much as the Technomic Deluxe, but the quill was bottomed out in the steerer. Philip On May 6, 9:24 am, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: Back in 1991 I bought a Cannondale (very stiff frame) that came with a standard quill stem. I swapped it out for a hollow, welded stem that had a much larger diameter extension. The first time I stood up and cranked the bike up a short steep rise I was astonished at how much stiffer the front end of the bike felt. The quill stem was allowing the bars to twist, the new one wasn't. That may or may not be seen as a good thing, but I have no doubt that typical threadless stems are stiffer in torsion than traditional quill stems. Bill On May 6, 3:58 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: The new RR contains an article by GP outlining his believes about various aspects of bike strength, comfort, weight, and comfort. There wasn't much new there for anyone who has followed him for a few years, including why he prefers threaded headsets and stems, but it did trigger this question from me. My son, who is 39 years old and a very muscular 170 lbs claims that he experiences stem flex while climbing with a traditional quill stem. I am always disinclined to challenge people's subjective experience but I have never experienced this and suspect it is in his imagination. Has anyone here felt their stem flex and has anyone ever broken a stem? michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rivendell Trailer Guy
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[RBW] Re: Stem Strength
I was out riding today and thinking about this issue. Now today I had the lugged Nitto steel stem on my Rando bike , about 7cm of quill showing. If there is some flex, I sure can't tell. But, similarly on the Ram with a Nitto Pearl and about 6cm to center of stem there was still Nothing. As I was climbing out of the saddle, I was analyzing my technique. I learned a long time ago that you let the bike move and you keep your body steady. That way there is little force on the stem and bars to make them deflect. ~mike On May 7, 2:06 pm, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: OHH! I knew that, once upon a time! Cheers, back! On Saturday, May 7, 2011, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: Actual, the polar moment of inertia is to the 4th power: PI()(D^4-d^4)/32.Cheers! James Valiensi, PENorthridge, CAH818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 On May 7, 2011, at 5:29 AM, Ken Freeman wrote: Ok, so the steel stem has a larger OD AND a stiffer modulus. Staying on the back of an envelope, the ratio of 31.6^2 to 22.2^2 is about 2. In which case your calc requires the ratio of moduli to be about 5. For steel it's about 30,000 ksi and for aluminum it's about 10,000 ksi. Not bad, for the back of an envelope, and no finite element work!! On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:15 AM, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: Hey, My back of the envelope calc's indicate a standard aluminum quill stem will deflect about ten times more than a steel stem. This is with equal extensions lengths and loads, and the aluminum stem has a solid 22.2mm diameter extension, and the steel stem is 31.8mm OD w/ 25.4mm ID extension. The extension into the fork vs. clamping on the outside of the fork are not significant here. By the way, neither stem deflects that much. If you really want a stiff stem, use a short extension, and big diameter. And steel too. And you know why they went to 31.8mm diameter handle bars? Because of the stinking cable grooves. The grooves make the bar section too flexible, the bigger diameter overcame this. Cheers! James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 On May 6, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Philip Williamson wrote: When I got my Quickbeam, I tried a couple of stems, including the stock Technomic Deluxe and the Nitto Dirt Drop. Both flexed noticeably more than the Salsa welded stem I ended up with. The Dirt Drop not as much as the Technomic Deluxe, but the quill was bottomed out in the steerer. Philip On May 6, 9:24 am, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: Back in 1991 I bought a Cannondale (very stiff frame) that came with a standard quill stem. I swapped it out for a hollow, welded stem that had a much larger diameter extension. The first time I stood up and cranked the bike up a short steep rise I was astonished at how much stiffer the front end of the bike felt. The quill stem was allowing the bars to twist, the new one wasn't. That may or may not be seen as a good thing, but I have no doubt that typical threadless stems are stiffer in torsion than traditional quill stems. Bill On May 6, 3:58 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: The new RR contains an article by GP outlining his believes about various aspects of bike strength, comfort, weight, and comfort. There wasn't much new there for anyone who has followed him for a few years, including why he prefers threaded headsets and stems, but it did trigger this question from me. My son, who is 39 years old and a very muscular 170 lbs claims that he experiences stem flex while climbing with a traditional quill stem. I am always disinclined to challenge people's subjective experience but I have never experienced this and suspect it is in his imagination. Has anyone here felt their stem flex and has anyone ever broken a stem? michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
I have the 16/19 freewheel and use common road 36 and 39 tooth chain rings in a double/double set up. I get a 51 and 66 inch gear out of that with no movement in the dropout. I have this on an old 80's Raleigh USA frame with somewhat short dropouts and the extra is used just for chain wear. On my soon to be new Simple One (actually five) I plan on the 16/19 and probably the 40/32 and a 22 tooth flip side freewheel. I live in a hilly area so I have no need for higher flat land gearing. This combo should give me all the range I really need on my normal solo rides. On my geared bike I have a Mountain crank with 12-32 cassette and I get a real crawler out of that but admit I could just as well dismount and walk using different muscles and at the same time give my crotch a rest. Its not unlike the old TDF guys used to do back in the 20's or whenever before derailleur gearing caught on and they had to repair all their own machines. I once tried a local hilly 15 mile road ride with just my 51 inch gear and it wasn't any slower by much. My energy was used in the climbing. I coasted on the down hills and spun, spun coasted on the flats. It was actually fairly relaxing. I wouldn't allow myself to shift to the higher gear on the flats and I could easily pedal 10-12 mph with that low gear. I see kids riding their BMX bikes this way all the time using the spin, spin coast approach.only difference is, I have a saddle at the proper height. I think the new Simple One will be a fun bike to ride. On May 7, 1:50 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone run a White Industries Double/Double drivetrain setup on their Quickbeam? Or maybe has plans to on their SimpleOne? Seems like a nice combination - rear Duo freewheel of 16/19, and front of either 38/35 or 34/31. They suggest the 38/35 for a 26 mtn bike, and the 38/35 for a 29'er... but it seems to me that the 38/35 would be best for a 700c mostly on-road riding bike. Am I confused? e.g. 38/16 and 35/19 seem like they would be better than 31/19 and 34/16... Anyone try this yet, or have a thought as to why this wouldn't be a great idea? :) Best, andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
Don't forget on a 26 inch wheel you get a lower gear due to wheel diameter. The 38/35 with the 16/19 should be fine on a 700c road machine with perhaps a higher fixed cog on the flip side if you are a flat lander or instead a larger freewheel if you ride in the mountains as I do. On May 7, 1:50 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone run a White Industries Double/Double drivetrain setup on their Quickbeam? Or maybe has plans to on their SimpleOne? Seems like a nice combination - rear Duo freewheel of 16/19, and front of either 38/35 or 34/31. They suggest the 38/35 for a 26 mtn bike, and the 38/35 for a 29'er... but it seems to me that the 38/35 would be best for a 700c mostly on-road riding bike. Am I confused? e.g. 38/16 and 35/19 seem like they would be better than 31/19 and 34/16... Anyone try this yet, or have a thought as to why this wouldn't be a great idea? :) Best, andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Atlantis setup help
Hello all, I am looking for some advice with setting up a new to me Atlantis. The problem I am having is that the saddle feels so low compared to the front end. Almost like I am riding a chopper-bike. It is the strangest thing and I want help to fix the situation. I tried lowering the bars - that didn't help. I moved my saddle slightly forward from how I would normally ride it and switched to a seat post with less setback -that helped some. Could the tire compression in the rear add that much into the mix (26x1.75)? I am accustomed to big soft tires (hetres) and the Atlantis has a steeper seat tube than other bikes I am comfortable on. Does anyone have any suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Atlantis setup help
Can you post photos? What sort of bars and what sort of stem? Do you feel as if you are sitting so upright that you can't generate adequate power on the pedals? Just possibly your saddle needs to go back on the rails. I've found that a rearward saddle position works well -- that is, gives me a comfortable back, moderates the weight on shoulders, arms and hands, and gives me the most power for a given effort -- with bars of surprisingly different altitudes, from 5 cm below to 8 cm above the saddle. There seems to be, for me, a certain angle of torso to hips/legs that I need for said comfort and power, and if that angle is too shallow, it doesn't matter how high or low the bars, all feels awkward. You might take a look at Peter Jon White's site on bike setup, particularly the part on fore-and-aft saddle position. (PJW's site is wordy and rather hard to navigate, but the content is worth the effort.) On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:54 PM, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I am looking for some advice with setting up a new to me Atlantis. The problem I am having is that the saddle feels so low compared to the front end. Almost like I am riding a chopper-bike. It is the strangest thing and I want help to fix the situation. I tried lowering the bars - that didn't help. I moved my saddle slightly forward from how I would normally ride it and switched to a seat post with less setback -that helped some. Could the tire compression in the rear add that much into the mix (26x1.75)? I am accustomed to big soft tires (hetres) and the Atlantis has a steeper seat tube than other bikes I am comfortable on. Does anyone have any suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Atlantis setup help
I forgot to add that the remarks below apply, in my case, even to my Fargo with 65 mm wide tires that I run as low as 12 front/16 rear for our local sand -- no, it's not a question of tire pressure. On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 5:27 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Can you post photos? What sort of bars and what sort of stem? Do you feel as if you are sitting so upright that you can't generate adequate power on the pedals? Just possibly your saddle needs to go back on the rails. I've found that a rearward saddle position works well -- that is, gives me a comfortable back, moderates the weight on shoulders, arms and hands, and gives me the most power for a given effort -- with bars of surprisingly different altitudes, from 5 cm below to 8 cm above the saddle. There seems to be, for me, a certain angle of torso to hips/legs that I need for said comfort and power, and if that angle is too shallow, it doesn't matter how high or low the bars, all feels awkward. You might take a look at Peter Jon White's site on bike setup, particularly the part on fore-and-aft saddle position. (PJW's site is wordy and rather hard to navigate, but the content is worth the effort.) On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:54 PM, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I am looking for some advice with setting up a new to me Atlantis. The problem I am having is that the saddle feels so low compared to the front end. Almost like I am riding a chopper-bike. It is the strangest thing and I want help to fix the situation. I tried lowering the bars - that didn't help. I moved my saddle slightly forward from how I would normally ride it and switched to a seat post with less setback -that helped some. Could the tire compression in the rear add that much into the mix (26x1.75)? I am accustomed to big soft tires (hetres) and the Atlantis has a steeper seat tube than other bikes I am comfortable on. Does anyone have any suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Pannier Anchor for Nitto R-15
Hi! I really like my Nitto R-15 rack. It's basically an R-14 with pannier supports: http://db.tt/q5cZmYx But what it doesn't have is pannier anchors for the bottom. And though I know that aren't absolutely essential, I do like using my TourSacks' bungee ball lower attachments for stabilization. So now I have this: http://db.tt/Nqvjvt6 Those are just the Nitto band clamps that RBW sells. And though the whole area looks a little busy there, the clamps thenselves don't look too bad. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A small step forward?
Okay, I'll admit to being surprised. Didn't think there were any race type bikes out there besides the Roadeo that took anything other than superskinny tires. Well, except for customs and one-offs for races like Paris Roubaix. Am now to the point where I think even 35mm is skinny. To each their own. Eric Platt St Paul, MN On May 7, 2:02 pm, Stuart Fletcher stuart.fletc...@gmail.com wrote: In a short video linked to from the Velo News piece that starts this thread there's some really cool looking high speed / slow-mo close up footage of bicycle tires deforming over the cobblestones. I've never seen anything like it found it very interesting (or maybe mostly cool looking...) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QSpuhIQg1A I found the footage compelling enough that I thought others might like to see it too. (Apologies if this has made the rounds.) Stuart Fletcher Seattle, WA On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 07:46, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Vindication!!! On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Big Paulie pauldgr...@yahoo.com wrote: http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/bikes-and-tech/ask-nick-fat-ti... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance. - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
My QB has a 40/32 in front and the 16/19 in the rear. It also has a solo 22 back the which does come in handy when laden down with camping gear and facing a couple of hills around here. In town I tend to run 40/19 because I can get off the line faster in traffic. Once out on the open road it's back to 40/16. Not thinking about what gear I'm in is great. During the week I'm in commuter mode, on weekend it's open road mode and maybe once a quarter I camp. Aloha, Bob Sent from my iPad On May 7, 2011, at 11:00 AM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: It is a cool concept, made even cooler, IMHO, by the copious length of the QB dropout. It's about 2. So, whereas with the WI 'double/ double', you get to choose between front rings 3-teeth apart, the extra length of the Rivendell dropout gives you a mind-boggling span of 8 teeth to play with on the front rings-- and with the 16/19 in the rear, you can make that up to 11 teeth diff up front.Dang. So basically, you can run a 16/19 in the rear, and a 40/32 double up front, which comes stock with the new Simple One I believe. Then you put a 22t ACS f/w on the other side, and suddenly derailleurs start to look quaint.* -Matt *OK not really On May 7, 4:50 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone run a White Industries Double/Double drivetrain setup on their Quickbeam? Or maybe has plans to on their SimpleOne? Seems like a nice combination - rear Duo freewheel of 16/19, and front of either 38/35 or 34/31. They suggest the 38/35 for a 26 mtn bike, and the 38/35 for a 29'er... but it seems to me that the 38/35 would be best for a 700c mostly on-road riding bike. Am I confused? e.g. 38/16 and 35/19 seem like they would be better than 31/19 and 34/16... Anyone try this yet, or have a thought as to why this wouldn't be a great idea? :) Best, andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv reader, playthings?
It's the pesky vehicular cycling meme. Bikes aren't toys they're vehicles!!! I am guilty. But, I am a lover of bicycles like most people are lovers of cars. They make me smile big, even those of the POS brand that have always been around, no matter where made or assembled... -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Riv Rally East Pics!!!
Today Riv Rally East kicked off with a stellar ride through the beautiful Pine Creek Gorge in North Central Pennsylvania. Our group numbered 8, with folks coming from as far away as Cleveland and Washington DC. The weather started out perfect, and remained so for the first half of the ride. But eventually the clouds rolled in and we got our first 10-minute rain shower, followed by more gorgeous weather. Then the BIG clouds rolled in, and we got a nice dousing of heavy rain, wind and lightning... NOW WE HAD OURSELVES A RIDE!!! The rain only lasted 30 minutes or so, but we were compelled to seek shelter after getting soaked for only 10 minutes. Then the weather turned gorgeous once again... such is spring in the wilds of Central PA. It was a beautiful ride through some beautiful country... Our group enjoyed today's ride; tomorrow we'll choose a slightly shorter route. By all accounts, Riv Rally East has been a success so far... There is definite interest in a Riv Rally 2012. Here are a few pics... http://tinyurl.com/66re7ty Peace, BB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Pics!!!
Excellent. The whole wade-across-the-river thing is an awful nice touch. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] duomatic
After breaking my first Sturmey S3X three speed fix hub I was super excited by the prospect of replacing it with a S2c duomatic kick shift hub. I went out to Mission Bicycles here in San Francisco where they even had a S2-hubed-bike (the one without the coaster brake) in stock. They were happy to let me try it out, but they warned it was not the most user friendly of things. Hard to shift, and hard to know if you shifted, they said. Pah! I said. I'm sure an old hand like myself will have no troubles! And off I went. Indeed, by the time I got back (a couple miles later) I could shift reliably 50-75% of the time. I was feeling quite accomplished. Then I thought: How much do I really want a heavy, inefficient, difficult to operate, potentially fragile hub that only gives a 38% range? No Duomatics for me, thanks. I'll stick with either a true single speed or a bigger range, like a Sturmey 5 or a Alfine 8. (Or, if you are looking for something silly, a S3X. My second one now has 30 miles on it and is doing fine so far.) Best, Reed On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 5:12 PM, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.comwrote: Anyone planning to go new or n.o.s. 2 speed kickback hub on their new Simpleone? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv reader, playthings?
words. i think playthings works well... personally, i've used therapists, spirit guides, low-tech transporters, environmentalists, creative muses, etc. to describe RBW's bikes. who doesn't like fun though. and more than anything, my AHH with 40cm noodles and 40mm schwalbes is FUN! On May 6, 9:36 am, Bike Hermit bikeher...@biketouringnews.com wrote: u...did Grant really call bikes playthings in the new reader? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Front derailer for 48-38-24: Shimano, Campy, IRD?
My bike has a Shimano XT front derailer from 1990. It has given good service, but I'd like to change it out. Rivendell and Harris Cyclery sell the IRD for this setup. I have read raves about the Campy Racing T, but it seems to be gone. I am not sure which Shimano is the appropriate replacement. I read somewhere that the IRD is a copy of an Ultegra, is that the case? I shift with Shimano bar-ends, and my bike has 1.25 tubes. Since I only change front ders every 20 years, I'd like to get a great one and be done with it. Any recommendations appreciated! BC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: NYC Bike Shops
I have been to Bespoke Bicycles a few times. Small, charming, and the people who work there are sort of down with the whole Riv point of view. They have copies of BQ in a rack by the cash register and stock VO parts and accessories. They don't actually sell any Riv products, to my knowledge. On May 7, 8:10 am, Will M wpm...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy -- a NYC shop I've been wanting to visit is Brooklyn's ne.bespoke-bicycles.com. Learned about them when the founder posted this on EcoVelo:http://bit.ly/hkvbwf... Rivish? In Manhattan, has anyone found anything more Rivish than Bicycle Habitat (244 250 Lafayette Street)? I've been having fun taking my Ram to my LBS (Sids on W 19th St) which caters to racers and urban hipsters and is decidedly non-Rivish. I say fun because every time I swing by with the bike, I educate the employees a little about how bikes should be designed. (The bike gets a lot of attention from customers and employees alike when in their shop. What is that? Cool bike, man. How old is that bike, dude? Why do you have such a huge frame?) For a while they had a mechanic from SF who knew all about Bridgestone and Riv, but he went back home. I second the vote for rivbike.com and roadtrips to Harris in W. Newton, MA. Will On May 5, 2:56 pm, Cycletex clifwrightpho...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyone have NYC bike shop suggestions that a Riv lover shouldn't miss out on? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: NYC Bike Shops
Hudson Urban Bikes might be more Riv-ish than Bike Habitat - or a least more commuter and cargo bike oriented. But BH is a pretty decent place. I took a 6 week bicycle mechanics class at Bike Habitat that was very educational. And whenever I stop by there with my Atlantis with moustache bars, it's gets admired in an appreciative way. They serve a broad constituency, but it's a decent LBS. And they'll generally do quick fixes and tweaks on the spot while you wait, whereas a lot of places in the city will want you to leave the bike for a couple days until they get to it. And BH's lead mechanic, Hal, is something of a local superstar in the NYC bicycling world. Always entertaining to talk with him. On May 7, 8:10 am, Will M wpm...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy -- a NYC shop I've been wanting to visit is Brooklyn's ne.bespoke-bicycles.com. Learned about them when the founder posted this on EcoVelo:http://bit.ly/hkvbwf... Rivish? In Manhattan, has anyone found anything more Rivish than Bicycle Habitat (244 250 Lafayette Street)? I've been having fun taking my Ram to my LBS (Sids on W 19th St) which caters to racers and urban hipsters and is decidedly non-Rivish. I say fun because every time I swing by with the bike, I educate the employees a little about how bikes should be designed. (The bike gets a lot of attention from customers and employees alike when in their shop. What is that? Cool bike, man. How old is that bike, dude? Why do you have such a huge frame?) For a while they had a mechanic from SF who knew all about Bridgestone and Riv, but he went back home. I second the vote for rivbike.com and roadtrips to Harris in W. Newton, MA. Will On May 5, 2:56 pm, Cycletex clifwrightpho...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyone have NYC bike shop suggestions that a Riv lover shouldn't miss out on? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Acorn Boxy Rando bag
Hi Ryan: Looks very nice. Mind me asking what your setup is and how long it took to receive your Swift Ozette after placing your order? Is that a Velo Orange decaleur kit? Would you be willing to write a little something outlining the setup process? Thanks On May 6, 5:26 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: I just got one. http://www.flickr.com/photos/30684316@N08/5682342304/in/photostream Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
