Re: [RBW] Re: Not too off topic I hope...
First off, I'm a bit of a camera hog, so have ended up with quite a few over the years. Although don't have one, do like the 4/3 option with a 14mm lens. Jim Thill has one and is getting quite good photos from the setup. For point and shoots, currently am using the Sony RX100 which has a really nice output, but is (a) probably not as robust as I'd like and (b) still quite expensive for what it is. But if I had to only own one point and shoot it would be a Ricoh GRD. Very robust build. No zoom, although the 28mm lens is quite nice. The lastest versions have a built in level which helps my photography. It's probably my favorite small camera. (The Fuji X100 is better but bigger and more expensive). Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: I have seen a platrack /slickersack converted to a pretty boss camera case if you wanted to go whole hog. On Dec 4, 2012 9:52 PM, Stonehog stone...@gmail.com wrote: I like the micro 4/3 stuff. Smaller lenses - some of the pancakes are really small and light. I used a point and shoot (canon) for a while, and got some good shots, too. Lately I have been using a Panasonic GF3 with a 14mm lens on the bike. It is only slightly bigger than a PS. I also picked up a GH2 which is slightly upscale, but uses the same lenses. That one requires a strap/sling, but is still portable light. It all comes down to what you find worthwhile. Mobile Brian Hanson On Dec 4, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Will wroma...@optonline.net wrote: Nice photos Bobby. Looks like perfect Napa weather. Love the brick! I wonder what the main tube wall thickness was on those... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CFSDSJ83yz8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Frame Raffle
I would do a mountain mixte, 650 b able to handle Pancetti's Neo-Moto 2.3, cream headtube maybe that pea sage green or even the soma san marcos blue, heck, mabye even a sam hillborne orange. Alba bars, nice lugged stem, brooks select saddle, those new thinline pedals. Man, I need to make an order and get in on this drawing. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 12:58:45 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Let's see.maybe a custom dark green/olive plaid pattern paint job with cream heatube and windows and epaulets..cream lug tracing, of course. Anything less than lug tracing on a plaid custom would be...welluncivilised. Eyelets and braze-ons all around...safety tailight braze-ons on the bottom of the chainstayspump pin...vertical dropouts...nary a lip...lotsa rake... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_ugOO5JXuZUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Saluki
I have noticed several Salukis for sale recently on ebay. I know that this bike was produced before the Bleriot, but I have had a somewhat difficult time finding information about it on the web. I am hoping that a list member or three might be able to shed some light on this bike for me. I'm in the market for a bike for longer rides and perhaps some short touring - Erie Canal, C O Trail, etc. I've had my eyes on a Sam for some time, but have not yet pulled the trigger (might on the all-blue Sam - what a deal). Would a Saluki be well-suited for this kind of riding or is it really designed as a country bike / credit card tourer / rambler / century ride bike? How would the Saluki compare to a Homer? I can't seem to find a chart that matches PBH to Saluki sizing. Should I simply use the general chart on the Riv site, matching the 650b section to my height to choose the correct Saluki? Thanks, Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ENLx7c-PfwUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki
The Saluki was a 650b bike, that was merged into the 700c A Homer Hilsen The 650b AHH's *are* Salukis, in a sense... On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:35:26 AM UTC-5, SeanMac wrote: I have noticed several Salukis for sale recently on ebay. I know that this bike was produced before the Bleriot, but I have had a somewhat difficult time finding information about it on the web. I am hoping that a list member or three might be able to shed some light on this bike for me. I'm in the market for a bike for longer rides and perhaps some short touring - Erie Canal, C O Trail, etc. I've had my eyes on a Sam for some time, but have not yet pulled the trigger (might on the all-blue Sam - what a deal). Would a Saluki be well-suited for this kind of riding or is it really designed as a country bike / credit card tourer / rambler / century ride bike? How would the Saluki compare to a Homer? I can't seem to find a chart that matches PBH to Saluki sizing. Should I simply use the general chart on the Riv site, matching the 650b section to my height to choose the correct Saluki? Thanks, Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Q8hYUh-WsSYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki
Try the Internet Wayback Machine (http://archive.org/web/web.php) and see if you can get info from an older version of the RBW website. But yeah, the Saluki is basically a 650b Hilsen. Still, the SH for $1000 seems like a good deal. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_-g6ZmO4Q_gJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Orange Rambo on Chicago CL - $900
Looks very nice. Too small for me... http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bid/3455783244.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QhTkzMzFe3sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki
Hi Sean, What's your PBH? If you're in the taller overlap zone of the Homers and the larger Salukis (59cm-62cm), I may be able to contribute to your questions. I recently added a 60cm Saluki to compliment and potentially replace my 59cm Hilsen. For now, I feel I'm at the point where I've identified a great size and ergonomic setup, nearly perfect, and now begin the process of splitting hairs. The Saluki is able to run slightly wider (Hetre) tires and has cantis and feels a hair larger, but that's probably due to the puffier 42mm Hetres (my Homer is an early build and has the narrower tire clearance). Aesthetically, the bike looks to be of the same high quality. My Homer was made at Waterford but the Saluki probably at Toyo. The lugs appear to be mismatched, the top lug of the headtube appearing to be like the current Homers and the bottom lug of the headtube appearing to be like the older pointy lugs. I like it. Here is an archive page on the Saluki: http://web.archive.org/web/20070225162042/http://www.rivbike.com/bikes/saluki On Dec 5, 5:35 am, SeanMac seanm...@gmail.com wrote: I have noticed several Salukis for sale recently on ebay. I know that this bike was produced before the Bleriot, but I have had a somewhat difficult time finding information about it on the web. I am hoping that a list member or three might be able to shed some light on this bike for me. I'm in the market for a bike for longer rides and perhaps some short touring - Erie Canal, C O Trail, etc. I've had my eyes on a Sam for some time, but have not yet pulled the trigger (might on the all-blue Sam - what a deal). Would a Saluki be well-suited for this kind of riding or is it really designed as a country bike / credit card tourer / rambler / century ride bike? How would the Saluki compare to a Homer? I can't seem to find a chart that matches PBH to Saluki sizing. Should I simply use the general chart on the Riv site, matching the 650b section to my height to choose the correct Saluki? Thanks, Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] RBW specials
Sigh that one makes me sad so far away. -sv On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:05 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Dis one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/515613230/ On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Pretty sure the tandem is Grant's too. I'm digging the extra cycle sale. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 9:26:48 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Comes pre-beausaged by the guy who invented the term! That's a real good deal, especially with the lugged stem. And an orange grab strap! Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 8:32:26 PM UTC-8, Dave Faller wrote: Sure looks like it to me! On 12/4/2012 8:31 PM, Leslie wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/**product-p/wsf-0042.htmhttp://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-0042.htm Doesn't that bike belong to ?? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/l4jVPqHYPCAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] RBW specials
NFS. That really is a smokin' hot deal. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Seth Vidal Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 9:28 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] RBW specials Sigh that one makes me sad so far away. -sv On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:05 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.commailto:cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Dis one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/515613230/ On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.commailto:manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Pretty sure the tandem is Grant's too. I'm digging the extra cycle sale. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 9:26:48 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Comes pre-beausaged by the guy who invented the term! That's a real good deal, especially with the lugged stem. And an orange grab strap! Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 8:32:26 PM UTC-8, Dave Faller wrote: Sure looks like it to me! On 12/4/2012 8:31 PM, Leslie wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-0042.htm Doesn't that bike belong to ?? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/l4jVPqHYPCAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -Mark Twain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Orange Rambo on Chicago CL - $900
That's really under priced... someone get it while the gettin's good! On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Looks very nice. Too small for me... http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bid/3455783244.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QhTkzMzFe3sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] New Sugino Crank
Just noticed this on the Soma blog. I don't know that this looks any better or worse than an XD-2 set-up as a double. Still, it's nice that there are getting to be more options for wide-range doubles. I wonder if this will be any cheaper than the Rene Herse crank. http://www.somafab.blogspot.com/2012/12/sugino-ox601-cranks.html --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/yfZO3Y-ofroJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki
My pbh is about 88. Riv recommended that I go with a 56 Sam. Not sure about my size on a Homer and I can't seem to access Riv's sizing chart Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2012, at 9:27 AM, C.J. Filip c.j.fi...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Sean, What's your PBH? If you're in the taller overlap zone of the Homers and the larger Salukis (59cm-62cm), I may be able to contribute to your questions. I recently added a 60cm Saluki to compliment and potentially replace my 59cm Hilsen. For now, I feel I'm at the point where I've identified a great size and ergonomic setup, nearly perfect, and now begin the process of splitting hairs. The Saluki is able to run slightly wider (Hetre) tires and has cantis and feels a hair larger, but that's probably due to the puffier 42mm Hetres (my Homer is an early build and has the narrower tire clearance). Aesthetically, the bike looks to be of the same high quality. My Homer was made at Waterford but the Saluki probably at Toyo. The lugs appear to be mismatched, the top lug of the headtube appearing to be like the current Homers and the bottom lug of the headtube appearing to be like the older pointy lugs. I like it. Here is an archive page on the Saluki: http://web.archive.org/web/20070225162042/http://www.rivbike.com/bikes/saluki On Dec 5, 5:35 am, SeanMac seanm...@gmail.com wrote: I have noticed several Salukis for sale recently on ebay. I know that this bike was produced before the Bleriot, but I have had a somewhat difficult time finding information about it on the web. I am hoping that a list member or three might be able to shed some light on this bike for me. I'm in the market for a bike for longer rides and perhaps some short touring - Erie Canal, C O Trail, etc. I've had my eyes on a Sam for some time, but have not yet pulled the trigger (might on the all-blue Sam - what a deal). Would a Saluki be well-suited for this kind of riding or is it really designed as a country bike / credit card tourer / rambler / century ride bike? How would the Saluki compare to a Homer? I can't seem to find a chart that matches PBH to Saluki sizing. Should I simply use the general chart on the Riv site, matching the 650b section to my height to choose the correct Saluki? Thanks, Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki
Probably right around a 60-61cm frame for level TT bikes. I'm an 89 and ride 61-62m frames. On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Sean McAtee seanm...@gmail.com wrote: My pbh is about 88. Riv recommended that I go with a 56 Sam. Not sure about my size on a Homer and I can't seem to access Riv's sizing chart Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2012, at 9:27 AM, C.J. Filip c.j.fi...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Sean, What's your PBH? If you're in the taller overlap zone of the Homers and the larger Salukis (59cm-62cm), I may be able to contribute to your questions. I recently added a 60cm Saluki to compliment and potentially replace my 59cm Hilsen. For now, I feel I'm at the point where I've identified a great size and ergonomic setup, nearly perfect, and now begin the process of splitting hairs. The Saluki is able to run slightly wider (Hetre) tires and has cantis and feels a hair larger, but that's probably due to the puffier 42mm Hetres (my Homer is an early build and has the narrower tire clearance). Aesthetically, the bike looks to be of the same high quality. My Homer was made at Waterford but the Saluki probably at Toyo. The lugs appear to be mismatched, the top lug of the headtube appearing to be like the current Homers and the bottom lug of the headtube appearing to be like the older pointy lugs. I like it. Here is an archive page on the Saluki: http://web.archive.org/web/20070225162042/http://www.rivbike.com/bikes/saluki On Dec 5, 5:35 am, SeanMac seanm...@gmail.com wrote: I have noticed several Salukis for sale recently on ebay. I know that this bike was produced before the Bleriot, but I have had a somewhat difficult time finding information about it on the web. I am hoping that a list member or three might be able to shed some light on this bike for me. I'm in the market for a bike for longer rides and perhaps some short touring - Erie Canal, C O Trail, etc. I've had my eyes on a Sam for some time, but have not yet pulled the trigger (might on the all-blue Sam - what a deal). Would a Saluki be well-suited for this kind of riding or is it really designed as a country bike / credit card tourer / rambler / century ride bike? How would the Saluki compare to a Homer? I can't seem to find a chart that matches PBH to Saluki sizing. Should I simply use the general chart on the Riv site, matching the 650b section to my height to choose the correct Saluki? Thanks, Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Saluki
Mine is 86.5, and Riv suggested a 61cm Homer. Fits perfectly with Jack Browns, but not a lot of extra room -- I don't mind that, and I think Keven knew that when he suggested the 61. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sean McAtee Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 9:35 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki My pbh is about 88. Riv recommended that I go with a 56 Sam. Not sure about my size on a Homer and I can't seem to access Riv's sizing chart Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2012, at 9:27 AM, C.J. Filip c.j.fi...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Sean, What's your PBH? If you're in the taller overlap zone of the Homers and the larger Salukis (59cm-62cm), I may be able to contribute to your questions. I recently added a 60cm Saluki to compliment and potentially replace my 59cm Hilsen. For now, I feel I'm at the point where I've identified a great size and ergonomic setup, nearly perfect, and now begin the process of splitting hairs. The Saluki is able to run slightly wider (Hetre) tires and has cantis and feels a hair larger, but that's probably due to the puffier 42mm Hetres (my Homer is an early build and has the narrower tire clearance). Aesthetically, the bike looks to be of the same high quality. My Homer was made at Waterford but the Saluki probably at Toyo. The lugs appear to be mismatched, the top lug of the headtube appearing to be like the current Homers and the bottom lug of the headtube appearing to be like the older pointy lugs. I like it. Here is an archive page on the Saluki: http://web.archive.org/web/20070225162042/http://www.rivbike.com/bikes /saluki On Dec 5, 5:35 am, SeanMac seanm...@gmail.com wrote: I have noticed several Salukis for sale recently on ebay. I know that this bike was produced before the Bleriot, but I have had a somewhat difficult time finding information about it on the web. I am hoping that a list member or three might be able to shed some light on this bike for me. I'm in the market for a bike for longer rides and perhaps some short touring - Erie Canal, C O Trail, etc. I've had my eyes on a Sam for some time, but have not yet pulled the trigger (might on the all-blue Sam - what a deal). Would a Saluki be well-suited for this kind of riding or is it really designed as a country bike / credit card tourer / rambler / century ride bike? How would the Saluki compare to a Homer? I can't seem to find a chart that matches PBH to Saluki sizing. Should I simply use the general chart on the Riv site, matching the 650b section to my height to choose the correct Saluki? Thanks, Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request.
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Frame Raffle
That would be an awesome bike! On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:24 AM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: I would do a mountain mixte, 650 b able to handle Pancetti's Neo-Moto 2.3, cream headtube maybe that pea sage green or even the soma san marcos blue, heck, mabye even a sam hillborne orange. Alba bars, nice lugged stem, brooks select saddle, those new thinline pedals. Man, I need to make an order and get in on this drawing. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 12:58:45 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Let's see.maybe a custom dark green/olive plaid pattern paint job with cream heatube and windows and epaulets..cream lug tracing, of course. Anything less than lug tracing on a plaid custom would be...welluncivilised. Eyelets and braze-ons all around...safety tailight braze-ons on the bottom of the chainstayspump pin...vertical dropouts...nary a lip...lotsa rake... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_ugOO5JXuZUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki
I'm just shy of 87cm PBH and fit perfectly on the 59cm Hilsen. Here is the generic Riv fit chart: http://www.rivbike.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/framesize_chart.gif Looks like for a given PBH the sizes on 650B compared to 700C are a bit larger but should fit the same. On Dec 5, 6:34 am, Sean McAtee seanm...@gmail.com wrote: My pbh is about 88. Riv recommended that I go with a 56 Sam. Not sure about my size on a Homer and I can't seem to access Riv's sizing chart Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2012, at 9:27 AM, C.J. Filip c.j.fi...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Sean, What's your PBH? If you're in the taller overlap zone of the Homers and the larger Salukis (59cm-62cm), I may be able to contribute to your questions. I recently added a 60cm Saluki to compliment and potentially replace my 59cm Hilsen. For now, I feel I'm at the point where I've identified a great size and ergonomic setup, nearly perfect, and now begin the process of splitting hairs. The Saluki is able to run slightly wider (Hetre) tires and has cantis and feels a hair larger, but that's probably due to the puffier 42mm Hetres (my Homer is an early build and has the narrower tire clearance). Aesthetically, the bike looks to be of the same high quality. My Homer was made at Waterford but the Saluki probably at Toyo. The lugs appear to be mismatched, the top lug of the headtube appearing to be like the current Homers and the bottom lug of the headtube appearing to be like the older pointy lugs. I like it. Here is an archive page on the Saluki: http://web.archive.org/web/20070225162042/http://www.rivbike.com/bike... On Dec 5, 5:35 am, SeanMac seanm...@gmail.com wrote: I have noticed several Salukis for sale recently on ebay. I know that this bike was produced before the Bleriot, but I have had a somewhat difficult time finding information about it on the web. I am hoping that a list member or three might be able to shed some light on this bike for me. I'm in the market for a bike for longer rides and perhaps some short touring - Erie Canal, C O Trail, etc. I've had my eyes on a Sam for some time, but have not yet pulled the trigger (might on the all-blue Sam - what a deal). Would a Saluki be well-suited for this kind of riding or is it really designed as a country bike / credit card tourer / rambler / century ride bike? How would the Saluki compare to a Homer? I can't seem to find a chart that matches PBH to Saluki sizing. Should I simply use the general chart on the Riv site, matching the 650b section to my height to choose the correct Saluki? Thanks, Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] RBW specials
They'd ship it to ya... Have to admit, I feel like I should buy it, even though I would *so* be in the doghouse if I did I really shouldn't... but, I really want to but I *really* shouldn't. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:27:54 AM UTC-5, Seth Vidal wrote: Sigh that one makes me sad so far away. -sv On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:05 AM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Dis one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/515613230/ On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljo...@hotmail.comjavascript: wrote: Pretty sure the tandem is Grant's too. I'm digging the extra cycle sale. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 9:26:48 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Comes pre-beausaged by the guy who invented the term! That's a real good deal, especially with the lugged stem. And an orange grab strap! Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 8:32:26 PM UTC-8, Dave Faller wrote: Sure looks like it to me! On 12/4/2012 8:31 PM, Leslie wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/**product-p/wsf-0042.htmhttp://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-0042.htm Doesn't that bike belong to ?? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/l4jVPqHYPCAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QDMgrCDGwgwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki
That all-blue Sam IS a looker alright (AND a deal)... On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:35:26 AM UTC-5, SeanMac wrote: I have noticed several Salukis for sale recently on ebay. I know that this bike was produced before the Bleriot, but I have had a somewhat difficult time finding information about it on the web. I am hoping that a list member or three might be able to shed some light on this bike for me. I'm in the market for a bike for longer rides and perhaps some short touring - Erie Canal, C O Trail, etc. I've had my eyes on a Sam for some time, but have not yet pulled the trigger (might on the all-blue Sam - what a deal). Would a Saluki be well-suited for this kind of riding or is it really designed as a country bike / credit card tourer / rambler / century ride bike? How would the Saluki compare to a Homer? I can't seem to find a chart that matches PBH to Saluki sizing. Should I simply use the general chart on the Riv site, matching the 650b section to my height to choose the correct Saluki? Thanks, Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4VzN5JUpFAEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Not too off topic I hope...
Having ridden the Brick, it sure FEELS like it's solid through !! I'll ask my friend Scott... He may know. BB On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 7:07:02 PM UTC-5, Will wrote: Nice photos Bobby. Looks like perfect Napa weather. Love the brick! I wonder what the main tube wall thickness was on those... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/At_xnk6THNMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki
I have a 62cm Saluki and a 63cm AHH and my PBH is 89.5. Mine are set up differently, but if I were to go down the like-to-like line on a per-component basis, they would be very similar. I love them both, ride them both almost equally, and I've done light touring on both. I've also ridden each of them loaded with 5 days worth of clothing and stuff to support an extended vacation / stay in PDX on the Seattle to Portland ride in years past. I didn't weigh them, but would guess that with two panniers and a Hoss pretty fully packed I probably had 45lbs. of jank plus 165lbs of me on the bike. Both bikes worked fine at 100m/d, though I'd say they were close to the limit. In any event, the Saluki is a great bike and would be well suited to the riding you describe, though so would the Sam. Can't see how you could go wrong either way. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 5:35:26 AM UTC-8, SeanMac wrote: I have noticed several Salukis for sale recently on ebay. I know that this bike was produced before the Bleriot, but I have had a somewhat difficult time finding information about it on the web. I am hoping that a list member or three might be able to shed some light on this bike for me. I'm in the market for a bike for longer rides and perhaps some short touring - Erie Canal, C O Trail, etc. I've had my eyes on a Sam for some time, but have not yet pulled the trigger (might on the all-blue Sam - what a deal). Would a Saluki be well-suited for this kind of riding or is it really designed as a country bike / credit card tourer / rambler / century ride bike? How would the Saluki compare to a Homer? I can't seem to find a chart that matches PBH to Saluki sizing. Should I simply use the general chart on the Riv site, matching the 650b section to my height to choose the correct Saluki? Thanks, Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WmYIY6swYwYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Frame Raffle
Boy, it's pretty easy to come up with $300 in my shopping cart, even though there's not a single thing I need! If I won, I'd probably basically end up with a Roadeo fattened-up to hold me. With fancy paint, of course... My country and utility bike needs are pretty much covered already at this point. -Pete in CT On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 4:06:42 PM UTC-5, Dave Rivbike wrote: I just posted on the blug but thought to repost here. We're raffling off a custom frame to one lucky customer who places a $300+ order during December. Info here: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/37206352818/rivendell-raffle Happy Holidays -Dave@riv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wZ5kfH5MbG8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank
I saw that too, and while they say more affordable than the normal OX801D (which is like, $500, right?) they don't mention a specific price point. Wonder how much it'll be. Probably not XD2 cheap, but hopefully not too bad. In any case, another good option for wide range doubles...If it's cheap enough, I may finally try one of these newfangled (now 10 years old) external bottom brackets. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 6:34:28 AM UTC-8, Mike wrote: Just noticed this on the Soma blog. I don't know that this looks any better or worse than an XD-2 set-up as a double. Still, it's nice that there are getting to be more options for wide-range doubles. I wonder if this will be any cheaper than the Rene Herse crank. http://www.somafab.blogspot.com/2012/12/sugino-ox601-cranks.html --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QSZSiDZAXE0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank
What is the *deal* with that site? It freezes my computer every time. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:09:25 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Till wrote: I saw that too, and while they say more affordable than the normal OX801D (which is like, $500, right?) they don't mention a specific price point. Wonder how much it'll be. Probably not XD2 cheap, but hopefully not too bad. In any case, another good option for wide range doubles...If it's cheap enough, I may finally try one of these newfangled (now 10 years old) external bottom brackets. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 6:34:28 AM UTC-8, Mike wrote: Just noticed this on the Soma blog. I don't know that this looks any better or worse than an XD-2 set-up as a double. Still, it's nice that there are getting to be more options for wide-range doubles. I wonder if this will be any cheaper than the Rene Herse crank. http://www.somafab.blogspot.com/2012/12/sugino-ox601-cranks.html --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/q8zJjOAhUXUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank
Note the 145mm Q factor. For those who it matters to, this will be a big deal. Note it is designed in the spirit of the TA Cyclotouriste Crank with it's low Q and small ratios, except you are no longer limited to that odd and often wobbly tiny BCD ! You can use the common 110mm BCD :) But, $500 ? lol ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LZGTqSWio_YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank
Note the 145mm Q factor. For those who it matters to, this will be a big deal. Note it is designed in the spirit of the TA Cyclotouriste Crank with it's low Q and small ratios, except you are no longer limited to that odd and often wobbly tiny BCD ! You can use the common 110mm BCD :) But, if the other one costs $500 . h . prolly not going to be near XD prices ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/gqTbjlaf4f4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank
BTW .. whatever happened to the Riv Crank proposed long ago ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/NWGkAl9LP6cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank
It's already up on Soma website $360 . http://store.somafab.com/suoxcrarwcu.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/i5hY2iNv-MEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank
the finish looks dull in the pictures, guess they saved money on polishing? I wish IRD would do their Defiant crankset in a 94 BCD double. That would be a real big seller. There are plenty of 94 mm chain-rings around. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 6:34:28 AM UTC-8, Mike wrote: Just noticed this on the Soma blog. I don't know that this looks any better or worse than an XD-2 set-up as a double. Still, it's nice that there are getting to be more options for wide-range doubles. I wonder if this will be any cheaper than the Rene Herse crank. http://www.somafab.blogspot.com/2012/12/sugino-ox601-cranks.html --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XNP4MW5rWwIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank
Among the highlights is that Soma finally is embracing the inherent flexibility of the chainring choices. When they started offering the $500 flavor, they didn't offer it with anything smaller than a 34T small ring, which is what we all can already get with every other 110mm bcd crankset. Now they offer all the rings as freebie configuration options. That's pretty cool. It'll be interesting to get a weight on it. Remember that if Soma has it, Merry Sales also has it, so you can buy it from you LBS if they deal with Merry Sales. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:40:29 AM UTC-8, Garth wrote: It's already up on Soma website $360 . http://store.somafab.com/suoxcrarwcu.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CAWmfZQarVcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Frame Raffle
I'd almost certainly end up with a slightly tweaked approximation of a canti-luki, or maybe a canti-roadeo. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:52:45 AM UTC-8, Peter Pesce wrote: Boy, it's pretty easy to come up with $300 in my shopping cart, even though there's not a single thing I need! If I won, I'd probably basically end up with a Roadeo fattened-up to hold me. With fancy paint, of course... My country and utility bike needs are pretty much covered already at this point. -Pete in CT On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 4:06:42 PM UTC-5, Dave Rivbike wrote: I just posted on the blug but thought to repost here. We're raffling off a custom frame to one lucky customer who places a $300+ order during December. Info here: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/37206352818/rivendell-raffle Happy Holidays -Dave@riv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rc8GOC5xCNAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Orange Rambo on Chicago CL - $900
I've talked to the owner a couple times recently, he's a super nice guy and takes great care of nice bikes. Kevin Chicago, IL On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:03:04 AM UTC-6, Marty wrote: Looks very nice. Too small for me... http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bid/3455783244.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QIqgoGBVvJoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] David Lance Goines Riv Poster--inexpensive framing option
Actually, plexi is usually more expensive. I found that out recently when I got my poster framed. Kevin Chicago, IL On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:16:32 PM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote: I agree. I had a much bigger piece of art framed at a custom shop for about $250 a few years ago. Plexiglas is cheaper and lighter than glass, and does some UV protecting at the same time. Philip Www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6mVckfLiQc0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] David Lance Goines Riv Poster--inexpensive framing option
I went with UV glare-free glass. Wasn't the cheapest choice, but was a minimal upcharge over regular glass. There was a 'museum' glass, the stuff literally just disappeared, no idea that there was glass there at all: VERY nice, but much much more pricey than the non-glare UV glass... On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 1:15:26 PM UTC-5, Kevin Mulcahy wrote: Actually, plexi is usually more expensive. I found that out recently when I got my poster framed. Kevin Chicago, IL On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:16:32 PM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote: I agree. I had a much bigger piece of art framed at a custom shop for about $250 a few years ago. Plexiglas is cheaper and lighter than glass, and does some UV protecting at the same time. Philip Www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XiLBDlhFKsIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank
For what it is worth, these are in the same wholesale price league as White industry crank sets with a WI bottom bracket. Likewise the Compass RH offering is just a bit more without a bottom bracket. The corresponding retail prices all appear to be in the hunt as well if you shop around, and or ask your retailer of choice. IMO the real differences come down to aesthetics, bottom bracket style, if ramped and pinned rings mean anything to you, and country of origin. What is really good is the fact that there are finally choices in the market that allow for lower ranged well spaced doubles and triples. The next step is finding a front derailer made in the last 20 years that works well with a 48-44 ring and a 16-20 tooth gap between rings. There are a few great vintage options, but new is a little harder to find. Rob (very excited for a Christmas Roadeo project that is getting closer to done) oceanaircycles.com Ventura, Ca On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:04:14 AM UTC-8, William wrote: Among the highlights is that Soma finally is embracing the inherent flexibility of the chainring choices. When they started offering the $500 flavor, they didn't offer it with anything smaller than a 34T small ring, which is what we all can already get with every other 110mm bcd crankset. Now they offer all the rings as freebie configuration options. That's pretty cool. It'll be interesting to get a weight on it. Remember that if Soma has it, Merry Sales also has it, so you can buy it from you LBS if they deal with Merry Sales. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:40:29 AM UTC-8, Garth wrote: It's already up on Soma website $360 . http://store.somafab.com/suoxcrarwcu.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9OsFlz7a73cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank
Rob at Ocean Air Cycles told me $340, which I believe included rings. On Dec 5, 2012, at 10:09, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: I saw that too, and while they say more affordable than the normal OX801D (which is like, $500, right?) they don't mention a specific price point. Wonder how much it'll be. Probably not XD2 cheap, but hopefully not too bad. In any case, another good option for wide range doubles...If it's cheap enough, I may finally try one of these newfangled (now 10 years old) external bottom brackets. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 6:34:28 AM UTC-8, Mike wrote: Just noticed this on the Soma blog. I don't know that this looks any better or worse than an XD-2 set-up as a double. Still, it's nice that there are getting to be more options for wide-range doubles. I wonder if this will be any cheaper than the Rene Herse crank. http://www.somafab.blogspot.com/2012/12/sugino-ox601-cranks.html --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QSZSiDZAXE0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Go fast bike: San Marcos?
I think those bikes are built by the same manufacturer in Taiwan so is the quality control on the Sam Hillborne much better than on the SOMA? On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 7:06:58 PM UTC-8, Tony Lockhart wrote: Thanks Aaron! I agree, the front brake caliper in the photo is out of tolerance--this is my primary gripe about the San Marcos. My 54cm SM uses a standard (47-57) reach caliper up front and a long reach (55-73) caliper at the back. I'm not sure if this is a design flaw or an operator error. For what it's worth, these little issues are not heinous enough to deter me from liking the bike because it has excellent handling characteristics and is fun to ride. Incidentally, I am currently running the proper reach caliper up front because I had this nagging feeling that the long reach caliper would fail. On Monday, December 3, 2012 10:29:33 PM UTC-8, Aaron Thomas wrote: Tony, Quick head's up on your brake reach issue. Looks like you're using the wrong brake up front — and that's why the brake pads are high in the slots. Only the 650B sizes of the San Marcos (i.e. 47, 51) use the long reach Tektro 559 (55-73mm). The 700c sizes use standard reach brakes (47-57 mm). That'd be the Tektro R539 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/brsbm59.htm. Did you try putting a standard reach brake on the front? Aaron On Sunday, December 2, 2012 11:42:46 AM UTC-8, Tony Lockhart wrote: Ryan, I actually have both bikes and have some thoughts to share with you regarding both. Perhaps some of my experiences can help with your decision on which frame to purchase. I bought a Sam Hillborne a couple of years back and went through a number of drivetrain and accessory changes. It's been my go fast, commuting, townie, and cyclocross bike so I feel qualified in comparing both bikes. My Sam has had a number of personalities in regards to set up and ride characteristics. I currently have it set up as a townie with fenders, 32mm tires, drop bars, and a basket (*contemplating a dirt drop stem and flat bars with cork grips*). I also have a San Marcos set up as a commuter, club ride bike, and cyclocross bike. My San Marcos has a mix of Shimano parts, 32mm tires, a Velo Orange rack, and drop bars. *To answer your original question, the San Marcos is an excellent choice for a go fast bike.* https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8n1WhS2qYyg/ULulwQWTKsI/AuA/ifpWp81Ra2w/s1600/DSC00207.JPG *San Marcos Criticism #1* I'm not sure if this is true for different sizes, but you'll need standard reach brake calipers up front and long reach calipers in the rear if you purchase a 54cm San Marcos. I am not sure if this is true of the other sizes or with any other 54cm San Marcos frames. I am running Tektro R559 brakes on this bike--the fit of the rear calipers is spot on however long reach calipers up front don't seem to fit properly. Have a look at the attached photo and you'll see that the fork was not designed for long reach brakes. Conjecture says that this bike should use standard reach brakes and that the rear brake bridge on my bike was welded too far upwards, necessitating longer reach brakes. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hPpChC7_z00/ULul4qOoEJI/AuI/nMYrtVGrYoc/s1600/DSC00209.JPG *San Marcos Criticism #2* The dropouts on this bike suck compared to the ones on my Sam. As you can see from the photos, the front dropouts originally come with lawyer tabs--I quickly filed those off after acquiring the bike. The rear dropout eyelets are welded too closely to the frame and cause interference when trying to mount a rack or fenders. The welds get in the way and prevent you from mounting accessories in a flush manner. The second photo shows a slight gap between the rack tab and the eyelets because the welds get in the way. Moreover, the decorative part of the Soma dropouts interfere with the quick-release hub skewer--this is not the case with my Sam. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U7UDrv1Nts0/ULul_MczA-I/AuQ/gNXYgLA5_9E/s1600/DSC00210.JPG https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-OiPJ0hY_jvk/ULumDgoGmRI/AuY/pDBz7q0BIEU/s1600/DSC00212.JPG With all of that said, the San Marcos is an excellent bike and I am very pleased with it. I have no trouble maintaining an average speed of 23mph while on club rides. It is quite comfortable however feels very sporty and agile when compared to the Sam Hillborne. Since you already have a Sam, try to imagine your bike with easier maneuverability, a lighter feel when climbing, and less squirrel*liness*. If you go with mainly Nitto parts, more spokes than less, and wide tires, you'll have no worries about durability if you end up with a San Marcos. I haven't had the chance to test ride a Roadeo, but I imagine that model to be much more suitable for fast riding than the San Marcos. The Roadeo is a gorgeous frame, and would probably be the ONE frame I
[RBW] Advice on a possible Sam purchase for a new Riv buyer
Hi everyone, Thanks for checking out my post. I currently have three bikes; a Pashley Guv'Nor (beautiful to look at if a bit uncomfortable on longer rides British bike), Velorbis Scrap Deluxe (very comfortable and heavy Danish bike I currently use for my work commutes) and an Electra Verse (my I don't care what happens to this bikebike. I really love the new double tube Sams and I'd love to buy one. Many of you own multiple Rivs and they sound great but do I need one? I don't do any touring. I commute to work on the weekdays and if I'm fortunate to get some time on the weekends (I have an 8 year old boy not really interested in biking) I get out to Griffith Park here in Los Angeles. Where in your opinion would a Sam fit in? Do you recommend selling one or all of the others to buy a Sam? Any and all opinions are welcome Thanks, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/p2W0G0IriVoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] in search of 650b 32 hole rims
HI, Any one out there have an extra set of 650b rims 32 holes that they want to sell or trade. Thanks Dylan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0sTUF1tYjJMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Frame Raffle
glad I waited until my birthday on the 1st to be treated and treat myself to some things at RBW. Photos of my new-to-me protovelo bleriot coming soon. On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 7:46:32 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Wonder what the chances of winning are? On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 4:06:42 PM UTC-5, Dave Rivbike wrote: I just posted on the blug but thought to repost here. We're raffling off a custom frame to one lucky customer who places a $300+ order during December. Info here: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/37206352818/rivendell-raffle Happy Holidays -Dave@riv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Kn_sz9o6pN4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Not too off topic I hope...
I use the Lumix ZS15. Well, that is more or less what it is called now, don't have the camera with me. I use it taking shots on and off the bike. On the bike, I keep it in a handlebar bag. The winder bump out makes it very easy to get a firm grip, and the switching is all right there so you can operate it with one hand very easily. It also turns on rapidly, and has a decent lens. I've been very happy with the quality of photos, video, and sound. So there you go! Happy trails! On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 5:19:43 AM UTC-8, Will wrote: Manny: that film by Jesus is great. It brings me back to my days out there. I would often ride the same routes. It's been too long, I've got to get out there again sometime soon. Thanks for sharing. I've often thought about starting a thread but thought better of it because it seemed off topic. I always look at all of the great photos that you post. In this video I catch a glimpse of your camera but can't id it. I know a great camera doesn't make a great photographer and you are certainly that. But it looks like something that is not too bulky and easy to carry around on the bike. What is it? If anyone else has cameras that they like to take out on rides on their Rivs (Riv content!), I would like to hear about them. I'm sick of my crappy iPhone photos and want to step up to a good all around camera that will travel well yet still give me a good focal range to capture good, crisp shots. Something easy to strap across my chest and get up and running fast. Any recommendations? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qiz09O42K9cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Boston to Montreal cycling tour.
I'm thinking of a bike tour from Boston to Montreal this summer, possibly with a return trip or a loop down to the Adirondacks depending on my schedule. In my dream world, I'd find a route through Vermont using the numerous maps of dirt and gravel roads found herehttp://www.aot.state.vt.us/Planning/mapgis/town_maps1.htm. Any one done something similar, or familiar enough with Vermont to suggest a route that avoids, where possible, main thoroughfares? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WSckClCsomEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Homemade Accessories for Bikes
Andy- Your bike, which I found on Google somehow, was the reason I did this http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericgnolan/8064314062/in/photostream ; much more crude. If I had any sewing abilities I'd make a seat similar to yours, but I found an old saddle works well. -Eric On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 2:57:06 AM UTC-5, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: The little basket-mounted pouches are a cool idea. I've been thinking of making the same sort of thing but a little larger for the box on my Bakfiets. It's funny... the Bakfiets has got a cargo box big enough for an adult or 4 small children to ride in but I'm often at a loss for a good place to put small items like a camera or sunglasses. As far as stuff that's actually gone beyond an idea... The kid seat http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/6812051114/ comes and goes but the leather mud flap is always on my Homer. The wife has an almost matching kid seat and mud flaphttp://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/7819921346/on her Betty Foy I replaced the snaps on my Slickersack with turn buttonshttps://picasaweb.google.com/113148323994353762329/SlickersackImprovement?authuser=0feat=directlinkso it'd be easier to go on/off with stuff in the bag. This little dealhttps://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/YDPGrUWUxKfSDl9I2ssFn9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlinkgets the light out in front of my basket 'cause the beam from the handlebar mounted light was obscured when I had stuff in the basket I think my coolest homemade bike accessory is the double kid seathttp://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/6873390593/for my Big Dummy. I love my Homer and have great adventures on my Riv, but the good (and bad) times I have sharing the bike with my kids are the stuff I'll smile about on my deathbed. --Andy On Thursday, November 22, 2012 11:05:20 AM UTC-8, Tony Lockhart wrote: Hello all and Happy Thanksgiving! I just wanted to see if anyone else in the Riv community enjoys making accessories for their bikes. If this is the case, I'd love to see what innovative things you've made. In the meantime, I'll post some images of things that I've made. During the past 2 years, I have been trying to perfect the rando bag but ultimately have been displeased with its lack of sturdiness. I enjoy making them, using them for a while, then gifting them to other cycling friends--this is great because it constantly gives me the opportunity to make new bags. While rando bags look great, I have yet to make one as versatile as a Wald basket. And after many years of debate, I have decided to stick with my Wald. With that in mind, I missed the tool pockets typically found at the back of a rando bag. So, I recently decided to create a couple of pouches to hang on the back side of my basket. Both pouches are 2 inches deep, 4 inches wide, and 5 inches high. There is also an extra 3 inches of flap available if I try to over-stuff the pouches. It was relatively easy to construct these little bags because canvas is such a forgiving material to work with. I have plastic stiffeners inside the bags (very similar to the ones in Acorn bags) and velcro attachments to keep everything in place. While these dimensions may seem small, I have all of my tools in the left pouch (inner tube, patch kit, multi tool, a pair of CO2 cartridges, 3 tire levers, zip ties, and 4 Irish straps). The pouch on the right is used to keep my cell phone, garage clicker, and keys; there is quite a bit of space left for snacks, a saddle cover, and a bandana. I'd love to see the folks at Riv create some Sackville versions of these because they're extremely versatile. Have a look--I am attaching JPEG images to this post. Also, I'd love to see any other accessories people make for their bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/jIHnI12l7nYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] 52cm Waterford Bombadil FFHS for Sale, single top tube-Last Notice before the Ebay
Peter; I am very interested in the Bomba you have for sale! Could you give me an idea of its geometry? Most critically, wheel size, top tube length and standover height. Thanks! Looking forward to your response. Rob Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 10:55:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [RBW] 52cm Waterford Bombadil FFHS for Sale, single top tube-Last Notice before the Ebay From: uscpeter11...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Had a solid offer but deal fell through so still for sale. Again, I hate to give any money to Ebay since they are a worthless middle man so can sell for $1,100 shipped. Sorry to be pestering with this one but it is all boxed up in my bed room and attracts many comments from my wife, haha. Thanks all. Peter On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I really do hate to give money to Ebay for doing nothing but have not had any solid offers here yet and need to make space in my small apartment. I just know someone out there wants this beautiful frame. Again Waterford built in 2011 52cm Bombadil Frameset for sale. Bike has a custom paint job, Hunquapillar Grey with cream accents, comes with dura-ace headset. Was bought new by fellow list member in 2011 and riddent lightly so is really pretty new. Has small scuff on seat tube decal and small mark where front deraileur was, small scuff from some chain suck but no dents, dings or gouges. Incredibly beautiful, needs a good home, priced to sell at $1,200 shipped but I am open to offers. Email me with any questions. Link to Flikr page. http://www.flickr.com/photos/67889635@N06/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS - David Lance Goines Riv Poster
On Monday, December 3, 2012 2:38:39 PM UTC-8, stevew wrote: Hi all, SteveI will take the posterPeter I am looking to sell my copy of the DLG Riv poster. It has been out of the box twice since I got it and it comes with the paper explaining the artist's printing process. Looking to get what I paid when Rivendell did the buy it before you see it promotion - $20, plus actual shipping. Please contact off list, and I can let you know what the shipping cost will be. Thanks, Steve Wimberg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Xv9ic99uWI4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS? 57 Rivendell Road
I have too many bikes and am considering lightening my collection. I have a 57mm Rivendell Road with 2 forks, 1 for short reach and 1 for long reach brakes. The serial # is JS9932 which I'm sure all of you know is a bicycle built by Joe Starck in 1999. It is Coleman Stove Green with cream head tube and windows. The condition is at least a 9 out of 10. It is equipped with a 10 speed Campagnolo Record Triple drive train. 172.5 cranks, Campy 10 speed bar end shifters, Campy record carbon brake levers, Chorus brakes, Chorus cassette 13x29 gearing, Nitto S83 seatpost, Brooks Swift Ti saddle, Mavic MA-40 rims, Chorus hubs, Wheelsmith DB spokes, Chris King headset without graphics, 3t Record stem, 3t Forma SL bars 44mm. I am not letting it go cheap and it might be worth more to me than I would accept but am offering anyway. Also have a 172.5 Zepher Crankset, 50-40-28 with companion Phil Wood BB that would probably go with the bike. Pics at the following: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bikneut46/sets/72157632164976494/show/ Thanks for looking, Ed Steck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-SlQwWGq4rAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Saddlebag Advice? Saddlesack v. Carradice
Howdy! Anyone have experience with Carradice saddlebags and Riv Saddlesacks? The design of the Saddlesacks seem to be very well thought out and intuitive for actual use. I've been using a Carradice Camper Longflap and it's huge. Wonderful load capacity. Too much load capacity for anything I can remotely need right now. Also should have a Carradice Nelson Longflap coming in the mail today, which is just a smaller version of the Camper? Just as wide? Can't justify two very similar bags so one of will probably have to go. Would it be unnecessary for me to spring for a new tan Saddlesack? They look very nice. Aesthetics aside, what advantages does a Saddlesack have over a Carradice Nelson/Camper? Thanks! David Chicago, IL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/B8kvavzX7pwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: 25.4cm clamp area, 120mm reach stem
I tried this over at iBob first, but since Riv sells stuff like this, I thought I would try here, too, since all the nice iBob-ers had to offer were 26.0mm stems and ones that were not as long as I would like. Anyone have one of these they are not using? Like a Nitto Technomic (Standard or deluxe)? Tallux? I am trying to get my albas a little further from my knees! You can email me off list: dweendaddy at hotmail Edwin W Nashville, TN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rsXKWiC8bTIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Love my new blue Sam
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WfhmKE8z9J4/ULu2O8rwJkI/AV8/I8Kye8eV7DY/s1600/DSCN0309.JPG While I'm here, here's my new-ish Sam. Going strong for about 2 months, sorry this is not a drive side pic. SLX rear/Deore FD, I've since replaced the bottle cage with a Ti one from Blackburn, threw the white Bont cage on my wife's bike. Jandd Explorer Rack that a friend was giving away (lucky me). Wheels are Velocity Dyad with LX hubs. 60cm. @the Greenlake library in Seattle. On Friday, November 30, 2012 9:14:36 PM UTC-8, John Stowe wrote: It's been sitting around in various (slow-moving) stages of completion since the summer as parts trickled in, many liberated from members of this group. I got pretty busy once the semester got going, but I managed to finish off the wheels (and several trips to the hardware store for bolts and bits) over the turkey holiday and ride it for ~60 miles this week. Enjoying all the qualities that folks here know, and were the reasons to upgrade from my cyclocross city bike: smooth, even ride, comfortable handling, inquisitive head-turning, and a smile on the rider. And no toe overlap (barely) on my size 14s, to boot! The other huge, major, wonderful upgrade over my previous bikes is the dynamo lighting. Such a huge difference when night classes are 12 mi away, mostly with no street lights! One cell phone pic to prove it can carry packages to the UPS store (and later cupcakes to home, by request of the spousal unit). More will surely follow, once I figure out how to work the new DSLR that appeared on my birthday. Mr. Hillborne is likely to be the most patient model I can find to practice on. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-IIfCCvn6xqk/ULmLqS9P9lI/A6I/VRQs1gwiogE/s1600/IMG_0037.jpg Coupla tweaks still to be made: - the Bosco Bullmoose bars are great for riding around town in a suit, and will be fantastic in about a year when a child seat gets added to the cockpit area. But I might need to swap them out for drop bars for the longer ride to school. The wind along the river chooses to be a friend one day and a foe the next. Usually when I'm already running late. - the wire that came with the taillight, for connecting to the headlight, was designed to reach the fork crown, not the front of a rack, so for the moment it's somewhat inelegantly running along one of the top tubes until I rig up a longer one. - stainless steel fenders are sitting at home waiting to get installed, but the stays are way too long to be mountable and my hacksaw wandered off to the home of a relative and has yet to return. Also needed for cutting the kickstand down to size. Of course, I've never passed up the opportunity to get more tools - maybe it's time to add a bolt cutter to the collection! - still looking for a toolkit to mount on the back of the saddle or somewhere else out-of-the-way-but-always-there. I like the idea of Acorn's roll bag http://www.acornbags.com/rollbag.html, but they seem to be impossible to actually purchase. Maybe someone with a sewing machine will be looking for stocking stuffer ideas. Overall, though, I'm just happy it's ride-able, and that the gamble of sinking in all the time, effort and money with no test ride has paid off with such a fine machine. And of course finally packing away the workstand is good for intra-household relations! I have enjoyed lurking and collecting advice on this forum, and the influence definitely shows in the final product. Thanks, all! -John Washington, DC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/81vBvZ0ESbsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Love my new blue Sam
That is the fastest looking Sam I've ever seen. Were the Kojaks noticeably faster than other tires you've ridden? Tim/Seattle On Sunday, December 2, 2012 7:50:22 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: Will -- nice build. How do you like the Kojaks? And what are the cranks, the bag, and the front and rear light? Patrick inquiring minds, etc, etc Moore On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Will wrom...@optonline.net javascript:wrote: Nice looking set up John. I am really enjoying my Sam too! Here's a shot of mine in your neck of the woods. I live in New York but my parents live on the Maryland shore. I ride down there a lot. Enjoy! https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1Ss_juSGnRc/ULtyd0SEkOI/ABM/Jb64ad3w9hE/s1600/IMG_2798.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EjBMGEiDRjQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/mb-bZXE0KQoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: which riv should I sell?
I would say stick with the Atlantis for its versatility, but how sad to see a Hunq go. Since your goal is the longer tour which I assume will take you on some pavement the Atlantis seems like the one. On Saturday, December 1, 2012 10:23:45 AM UTC-8, fulf wrote: Never thought I'd ever think of selling a Rivendell but with my third son in college and plenty of bills in the mailbox, I'm thinking that one must go. I just don't know which one. I have a four year old Atlantis which is set up as a touring/rando bike and a Hunqapillar which is my go anywhere bike. The Atlantis has noodle bars, 700*40 marathon supremes and is very comfortable. The Hunq has bullmoose bars and 700*50 duremes. It's a little sluggish on long rides but is great for trails and shorter rides. Is also very comfortable and is less than a year old. Typically I ride them on a 28 mile commute, up to 50 mile loops, around town on errands and someday,trail rides and I hope to ride a long tour. I love both the bikes and really don't which one to part with. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Bill PS- I hope Manny one bike is enough Acosta is right. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/svOVhvuoLxEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Are Brooks Saddle Worth the Money?
I've lived on a steady diet of second hand, sub-500 mile B-17s that just didn't work for somebody, so it need not be so cost prohibitive. Tried a Selle Anatomica and, immediately comfy though it was, I felt like I'd be out of tension bolt in three seasons. Never sat on a Rivet or Berthoud or similar Brooks-alikes. Also, my Schwalbes cost more than $120 for a full new shod every year or whatever, and I've yet to wear out a B-17. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RKIgm8s0f3MJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: which riv should I sell?
Loathe as I am to compel anyone to sell a Riv, I just recently pared down to one bike, and have thus far lived to tell the tale. Me, I'd keep the Atlantis, if only because I think the range of versatility dressing up and down is ever so slightly wider. Tough spot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9moioaqoYfYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: which riv should I sell?
IMO if you must sell one make it the Hunq. I have both a Roadeo and an Atlantis. If I could only have one bike it would be the Atlantis. You can do anything on an Atlantis. Because you can. On Saturday, December 1, 2012 1:23:45 PM UTC-5, fulf wrote: Never thought I'd ever think of selling a Rivendell but with my third son in college and plenty of bills in the mailbox, I'm thinking that one must go. I just don't know which one. I have a four year old Atlantis which is set up as a touring/rando bike and a Hunqapillar which is my go anywhere bike. The Atlantis has noodle bars, 700*40 marathon supremes and is very comfortable. The Hunq has bullmoose bars and 700*50 duremes. It's a little sluggish on long rides but is great for trails and shorter rides. Is also very comfortable and is less than a year old. Typically I ride them on a 28 mile commute, up to 50 mile loops, around town on errands and someday,trail rides and I hope to ride a long tour. I love both the bikes and really don't which one to part with. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Bill PS- I hope Manny one bike is enough Acosta is right. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/YGtEX8JbkukJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Brooks Flyer Saddle, Sugino AT Crankset, Suntour Cyclone MK II F/R Derailleurs, Etc
SRAM 8sp 12-26T Cassette and Shimano 105 Triple Front Deraileur are now SOLD! Only the Shimano 105 Road Double Crankset remains. Thanks again! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/K1Ad5K9Dvm0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Are Brooks Saddle Worth the Money?
Bill, Thanks for the info. I've been doing my research and the Rivet looks intriguing for all the reasons you describe. But I have to ask - When you talk about contact with the inner thigh, is that the same as my issue where saddle sores develop at the back of the thigh where it meets the buttox just below the sit bone? Another question I have is related to the cutout. I've read that it is unique and designed for women. How would you rate the Rivet for relieving genital pressure on men? The reason for the test ride is to help determine if I should get the Pearl (170mm) or the Diablo (155mm). My confusion comes from problems with the B17 (170mm) and relief from the Specialized Romin Evo (155mm). However, as we know, other factors need to be taken into account, and logic points to the Pearl (170mm). I'm hoping that actually sitting each will help me to decide. Matt , On Saturday, December 1, 2012 8:02:21 AM UTC-8, Bill M. wrote: Matt, If you look at an SA, a B17 and a Rivet Pearl from above, you'll see that they are all about the same width at the widest part. The SA is nearly triangular from nose to tail, the skirts are wide and flared but relatively soft. The designer INTENDED for them to contact your inner thighs (per an e-mail exchange I had with him before his untimely passing). The Brooks has a little more 'shape' to it, the nose stays narrower longer than on the SA. The skirts are more vertical, but there's still some contact there. The Rivet's nose stays narrow much longer than that of the Brooks, then it flares much more rapidly to the wider section. This is achieved by the skirts being pulled together under the saddle and riveted together with a small metal reinforcing plate. The result is that the Rivet eliminates (for me) the contact point between the inside of the thigh and the corner of the saddle. That makes a real difference in comfort, IMO. Also, the Rivet leather is very stiff, so it supports the sit bones well. The more you sink into the saddle, the more that contact point becomes significant. It takes some real mileage for the Rivet to break in, so you can't judge one on the first ride. I have the skirts of my B17 Imperial laced in tight, and have also laced the skirts of my SA and pulled them in tight, but compared to the Rivet those are only partially successful in eliminating that inner thigh contact. My B17 Special is not laced (yet), but I have cut a fairly large slot into the center of the saddle to relieve pressure from the 'hump' that can develop in a Brooks over the years. I also have a Brooks Flyer that's both cut out and laced, but it''s not currently in use. The SA, Imperial and Rivet all come with cutouts. There's a pattern here! Hope that helps, Bill Mennuti On Friday, November 30, 2012 11:36:27 AM UTC-8, hangtownmatt wrote: Bill, or anyone else for that matter, Would you please explain how the Rivet Pearl is different for your anatomy? I ask because I've put 3,000 miles on a Brooks B17 over the last 7 months and have suffered horribly from saddle sores where the back of my thigh meets my buttocks. I'm not sure if it is the shape of the Brooks B17 or its skirt that is causing me issues, but I finally gave up last week and robbed Peter (vintage Bianchi) to pay Paul (Sam Hillborne). Sam is now sporting a Specialized Romin Evo and the saddle sore issue is going away. I'll stick with it if I have to, because it works, but I'd rather have a Rivet, Berthoud or another Brooks model. I was supposed to test ride a Pearl today but PNW weather is preventing that. I sure wish there we more online reviews of the Rivet products. Matt On Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:31:59 PM UTC-8, Bill M. wrote: The Rivet has not been mentioned here yet, and they are certainly not cheap, but I have to say the shape of the Pearl is far better for my anatomy than any Brooks I have ridden. Bill On Thursday, November 22, 2012 8:47:06 PM UTC-8, Christopher Murray wrote: I had not bought a new Brooks in a few years and was shocked at the prices. I think they are great saddles but starting at $120 for a standard B17 is insane. You could get them for a fraction of that just a few years ago. WIth all the other saddles out there, do you think they are worth this much money? Especially with some great new brands and re-intro of some classics (Regal, Contour, Regal, etc). Has anyone tried any of these re-intros or have a Brooks alternative they like? Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Zza6PQVdYnUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options,
[RBW] Re: Should have looked at the weather report
Fixed or freewheel? I always felt that fixed gear gave me a lot more sense of how much traction I had and a lot more control in icy conditions. On Friday, November 30, 2012 6:27:22 PM UTC-5, Trevor saxton wrote: Crisp ride in the morning with the wind at my back left me stuck at work 70km from home, simplone outfitted with Jack Brown greens and 4cm of snow. A harrowing 10km ride to the train station left me with a smile plastered on my face, convinced that I had found the perfect bike in my simplone. Also with the notion that I should be my knobbies on this weekend... http://www.flickr.com/photos/78462625@N07/8232728237 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vZTkcs_rICMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Keeping your neck warm
Also, for some cool - self knitted projects (related to bikes) Bictoro on her blog makes bags, panniers, and knitted products: http://www.bicitoro.com/ On Friday, November 30, 2012 7:58:07 PM UTC-8, Pammie wrote: Hey, if you all know any knitters - there are plenty of neck cowls out there that can be knit very very easily! Wool, alpaca, merino, silk, cashmere - sky's the limit! On Nov 30, 2012, at 6:57 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: There ya go! On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 7:39 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I hear there's a Scandinavian airbag helmet that'll keep your neck cozy pre-deployment On Friday, November 30, 2012 10:01:56 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: I've found that protecting my neck from drafts in cold weather saves me from many a sore throat. Unfortunately, some of my favorite jerseys -- notably the otherwise entirely excellent Wabi Woolens one -- have collars that are a wee bit low to do this. What do y'all use to keep your neck warm in situations where you don't want to add another garment with a higher collar? My fleece neck gaiters are too thick much above 40F; thin scarfs are awkward and look a bit twee. Is there anything that will fit snugly about the neck and be compact enough to fit *under* a jersey collar when it is fully zipped? Patrick Moore, about to go run some errands in ABQ, NM where it is currently 53* -- cold enough to need neck protection, sunny, and -- mirabile dictu! -- calm -- we've had wonderful weather for the last several weeks. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xLAgNGo7XwwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/upNgUrnBHeEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: David Lance Goines Riv Poster--inexpensive framing option
thanks for showing the poster - I was wondering about it. He's not too sky about copying Mucha. But so did everyone else. Cool poster. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/aBYq7HaQbPUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 52cm Waterford Bombadil FFHS for Sale, single top tube-Last Notice before the Ebay
Rob, The list emails are kinda strange today so I just got this. The geometry and measurements are the same as stated on the Rivbike website https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjehUKAztnO8dEFRVEYxUWpxeXNPMHZMeDZINmNUMWc#gid=0 . Standover with Grand Bois Hetres is hair under 31.5 inches, takes 650b Tires. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks! On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Robert Morrow rbrtmor...@hotmail.comwrote: Peter; I am very interested in the Bomba you have for sale! Could you give me an idea of its geometry? Most critically, wheel size, top tube length and standover height. Thanks! Looking forward to your response. Rob -- Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 10:55:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [RBW] 52cm Waterford Bombadil FFHS for Sale, single top tube-Last Notice before the Ebay From: uscpeter11...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Had a solid offer but deal fell through so still for sale. Again, I hate to give any money to Ebay since they are a worthless middle man so can sell for $1,100 shipped. Sorry to be pestering with this one but it is all boxed up in my bed room and attracts many comments from my wife, haha. Thanks all. Peter On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I really do hate to give money to Ebay for doing nothing but have not had any solid offers here yet and need to make space in my small apartment. I just know someone out there wants this beautiful frame. Again Waterford built in 2011 52cm Bombadil Frameset for sale. Bike has a custom paint job, Hunquapillar Grey with cream accents, comes with dura-ace headset. Was bought new by fellow list member in 2011 and riddent lightly so is really pretty new. Has small scuff on seat tube decal and small mark where front deraileur was, small scuff from some chain suck but no dents, dings or gouges. Incredibly beautiful, needs a good home, priced to sell at $1,200 shipped but I am open to offers. Email me with any questions. Link to Flikr page. http://www.flickr.com/photos/67889635@N06/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Frame Raffle
I'd do a version of that Mountain Fixie that was such a troublesome truck. Basically a fixed gear fool-around-in-the-woods bike. Able to take 60mm Big Apples and fenders, like a super-attractive version of my industrial-ugly Gravel Roadsterhttp://www.biketinker.com/2012/projects/front-bag-conversion-on-problem-solvers/. Flared drops. Threadless stem. Berthoud saddle, maybe? I like your mixte idea for standover/bailoff clearance. Maybe an Abele gray, black, or pea-sage green; something low-key for the woods. Pencil blue, maybe. Philip www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 5:24:12 AM UTC-8, RJM wrote: I would do a mountain mixte, 650 b able to handle Pancetti's Neo-Moto 2.3, cream headtube maybe that pea sage green or even the soma san marcos blue, heck, mabye even a sam hillborne orange. Alba bars, nice lugged stem, brooks select saddle, those new thinline pedals. Man, I need to make an order and get in on this drawing. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 12:58:45 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Let's see.maybe a custom dark green/olive plaid pattern paint job with cream heatube and windows and epaulets..cream lug tracing, of course. Anything less than lug tracing on a plaid custom would be...welluncivilised. Eyelets and braze-ons all around...safety tailight braze-ons on the bottom of the chainstayspump pin...vertical dropouts...nary a lip...lotsa rake... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tZHQmVe_XrsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: which riv should I sell?
Hey All, I know this won't come as anything new to people here, but I personally have never sold a frame or a bike I didn't miss. To sell either an Atlantis or a Hunq has got to hurt. I own neither, but do own (or have owned) similar bikes and I would sell the Hunq. Then I would make the Altlantis do everythingincluding perhaps the ability to swap out entire (at least bars and controls) in a hurry and except the limitations. My 2 cents. Chris Redding, Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/39HCXNgHTzsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Boston to Montreal cycling tour.
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 12:23 -0800, John L wrote: I'm thinking of a bike tour from Boston to Montreal this summer, possibly with a return trip or a loop down to the Adirondacks depending on my schedule. In my dream world, I'd find a route through Vermont using the numerous maps of dirt and gravel roads found here. Any one done something similar, or familiar enough with Vermont to suggest a route that avoids, where possible, main thoroughfares? How about this: http://boston-montreal-boston.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Frame Raffle
Gee! Not much time to think. I wonder if there's $300 of stuff I might like? ROTFL!?!!! Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ApjNnZvJJg4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank
I used the Shimano 105 double made in 1999-ish FD-5500 when I used 48/44/26 rings and it shifted fine between the small rings. The Dura Ace and Ultegra of that same vintage work as well :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ZYoj86ppkT4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Advice on a possible Sam purchase for a new Riv buyer
Yep. What you have right now are two heavy bikes (Velorbis and Electra), and one with a semi-extreme riding position and high bottom bracket (Guv'nor). The Sam would be a multi-geared semi-lightweight bicycle that would be excellent for commuting *and* jaunts in Griffith Park. Keep the Electra for store runs and the Guv'nor because it's so cool. But expect to ride your Sam most of the time. Get one! Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 6:51:14 AM UTC-8, Chris wrote: Hi everyone, Thanks for checking out my post. I currently have three bikes; a Pashley Guv'Nor (beautiful to look at if a bit uncomfortable on longer rides British bike), Velorbis Scrap Deluxe (very comfortable and heavy Danish bike I currently use for my work commutes) and an Electra Verse (my I don't care what happens to this bikebike. I really love the new double tube Sams and I'd love to buy one. Many of you own multiple Rivs and they sound great but do I need one? I don't do any touring. I commute to work on the weekdays and if I'm fortunate to get some time on the weekends (I have an 8 year old boy not really interested in biking) I get out to Griffith Park here in Los Angeles. Where in your opinion would a Sam fit in? Do you recommend selling one or all of the others to buy a Sam? Any and all opinions are welcome Thanks, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8HeUdhX3BsIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Advice on a possible Sam purchase for a new Riv buyer
But a significant investment nonetheless. Especially if you're on the fence. I'd say if you have an opportunity to test ride a Sam and or some other Riv models by all means do so. The lighter weight and fine ride of the Riv might win you over...I also know that the good people of RivHQ would be happy to work with you and answer any questions you might haveGood luck On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 5:03:58 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: Yep. What you have right now are two heavy bikes (Velorbis and Electra), and one with a semi-extreme riding position and high bottom bracket (Guv'nor). The Sam would be a multi-geared semi-lightweight bicycle that would be excellent for commuting *and* jaunts in Griffith Park. Keep the Electra for store runs and the Guv'nor because it's so cool. But expect to ride your Sam most of the time. Get one! Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 6:51:14 AM UTC-8, Chris wrote: Hi everyone, Thanks for checking out my post. I currently have three bikes; a Pashley Guv'Nor (beautiful to look at if a bit uncomfortable on longer rides British bike), Velorbis Scrap Deluxe (very comfortable and heavy Danish bike I currently use for my work commutes) and an Electra Verse (my I don't care what happens to this bikebike. I really love the new double tube Sams and I'd love to buy one. Many of you own multiple Rivs and they sound great but do I need one? I don't do any touring. I commute to work on the weekdays and if I'm fortunate to get some time on the weekends (I have an 8 year old boy not really interested in biking) I get out to Griffith Park here in Los Angeles. Where in your opinion would a Sam fit in? Do you recommend selling one or all of the others to buy a Sam? Any and all opinions are welcome Thanks, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rLkoU11tpAAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Orange Rambo on Chicago CL - $900
That's frame, fork headset, no components. Someone mentioned that my ad wasn't clear. Hope it goes to a good home! - Eric On Dec 5, 8:31 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: That's really under priced... someone get it while the gettin's good! On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Looks very nice. Too small for me... http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bid/3455783244.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QhTkzMzFe3sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS vintage mountain bikes
I have accumulated a couple time-capsule mountain bikes that may be of interest to somebody on this list. 1. 1983-84 Specialized Stumpjumper SC, blue, seat-tube 20 c-c, top-tube 22.5 c-c. Bullmoose stem/bar. Still has the (seemingly) original tan-sidewall Specialized Team Control tires in great shape. Bullseye hubs, Suntour Mountech derailleurs, Sugino AT crank, heavy-duty Shimano brake levers and Unishift Control friction thumb shifters, behind-the-seat-tube-mounted Zefal HP frame pump, no saddle or pedals. Some garage wear and a few minor scrapes and decal imperfection, but otherwise in really nice condition. It has been stored in a dry garage for probably 15-20 years and probably needs a little air and pro-link, but it's obviously well cared for and low miles. $600 shipped CONUS. 2. Late 90s Cannondale F700, size Small, seat tube 17 c-t, virtual top tube approx 20 c-c. Excellent condition, and all original except I switched to modern Deore levers and Tektro v-brakes and some modern Kenda semi-knobby tires when I acquired it awhile back for my lady friend, who never rode it. Mavic 220 rims (Coda fhub, Shimano rhub), XT rder, LX fder, cool Coda 94/58 crank, SRAM twist shifters, headshock fork. $450 shipped CONUS. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/bjpjxbP7skgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Orange Rambo on Chicago CL - $900
Ahhh, that clears it up. Wonderful looking bike! On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote: That's frame, fork headset, no components. Someone mentioned that my ad wasn't clear. Hope it goes to a good home! - Eric On Dec 5, 8:31 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: That's really under priced... someone get it while the gettin's good! On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Looks very nice. Too small for me... http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bid/3455783244.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QhTkzMzFe3sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Frame Raffle
Does buying a $300 gift certificate count? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/dP-EwADvHY8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Orange Rambo on Chicago CL - $900
Ah but still a great price for a great frameset! Flickr updated w/ new photos of the frameset: http://www.flickr.com/photos/62732254@N02/sets/72157632177997317/ - Eric On Dec 5, 7:03 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Ahhh, that clears it up. Wonderful looking bike! On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote: That's frame, fork headset, no components. Someone mentioned that my ad wasn't clear. Hope it goes to a good home! - Eric On Dec 5, 8:31 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: That's really under priced... someone get it while the gettin's good! On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Looks very nice. Too small for me... http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bid/3455783244.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QhTkzMzFe3sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Orange Rambo on Chicago CL - $900
But I would be more than open to offering some of the components w/ the bike too. On Dec 5, 8:08 pm, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote: Ah but still a great price for a great frameset! Flickr updated w/ new photos of the frameset: http://www.flickr.com/photos/62732254@N02/sets/72157632177997317/ - Eric On Dec 5, 7:03 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Ahhh, that clears it up. Wonderful looking bike! On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote: That's frame, fork headset, no components. Someone mentioned that my ad wasn't clear. Hope it goes to a good home! - Eric On Dec 5, 8:31 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: That's really under priced... someone get it while the gettin's good! On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Looks very nice. Too small for me... http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bid/3455783244.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QhTkzMzFe3sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] RBW specials
Looks like the Homer, tandem and Extracycle are gone already. Had my eye on the Extracycle, and am slightly relieved I don't need to find more garage space ;) Did you happen to get it, Manny? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/C7nEdBf76E0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki
Thank you for all of your help today. I spent the day on jury duty, so I am a bit slow in sending thanks. When I returned home I had my son help me to re-measure my PBH. We ended up taking several measurements, typically getting a PBH between 86 - 87. Based on Riv's chart, his seems to put me at a 56 Sam, a 58-60 Saluki (or Bleriot) and 58-61 Homer. I don't need a new bike any time soon, but it would be nice to take advantage of a deal. However, since a new bike is a bike purchase, I want to make the best decision possible - even if that means not buying anything. The problem, of course, is that one can never know for sure what deals will come by. However, since I live in Buffalo, it is pretty unlikely that I will be outdoors on a bike any time soon. I probably should hang tight and wait for a deal that I can't pass up. Sorry for thinking out loud. I do appreciate all or your help / advice. Someday I'll make up my mind! Sean On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:51:52 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote: I have a 62cm Saluki and a 63cm AHH and my PBH is 89.5. Mine are set up differently, but if I were to go down the like-to-like line on a per-component basis, they would be very similar. I love them both, ride them both almost equally, and I've done light touring on both. I've also ridden each of them loaded with 5 days worth of clothing and stuff to support an extended vacation / stay in PDX on the Seattle to Portland ride in years past. I didn't weigh them, but would guess that with two panniers and a Hoss pretty fully packed I probably had 45lbs. of jank plus 165lbs of me on the bike. Both bikes worked fine at 100m/d, though I'd say they were close to the limit. In any event, the Saluki is a great bike and would be well suited to the riding you describe, though so would the Sam. Can't see how you could go wrong either way. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 5:35:26 AM UTC-8, SeanMac wrote: I have noticed several Salukis for sale recently on ebay. I know that this bike was produced before the Bleriot, but I have had a somewhat difficult time finding information about it on the web. I am hoping that a list member or three might be able to shed some light on this bike for me. I'm in the market for a bike for longer rides and perhaps some short touring - Erie Canal, C O Trail, etc. I've had my eyes on a Sam for some time, but have not yet pulled the trigger (might on the all-blue Sam - what a deal). Would a Saluki be well-suited for this kind of riding or is it really designed as a country bike / credit card tourer / rambler / century ride bike? How would the Saluki compare to a Homer? I can't seem to find a chart that matches PBH to Saluki sizing. Should I simply use the general chart on the Riv site, matching the 650b section to my height to choose the correct Saluki? Thanks, Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7NxDg7kcBZcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Go fast bike: San Marcos?
The build quality looks identical in both frames, however the paint job on the San Marcos is not as good as on the Hillborne. All of the lugs appear to be identical with the exception of the lower headtube lug on the SM---more windows and more decorative. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:21:06 AM UTC-8, redsydude wrote: I think those bikes are built by the same manufacturer in Taiwan so is the quality control on the Sam Hillborne much better than on the SOMA? On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 7:06:58 PM UTC-8, Tony Lockhart wrote: Thanks Aaron! I agree, the front brake caliper in the photo is out of tolerance--this is my primary gripe about the San Marcos. My 54cm SM uses a standard (47-57) reach caliper up front and a long reach (55-73) caliper at the back. I'm not sure if this is a design flaw or an operator error. For what it's worth, these little issues are not heinous enough to deter me from liking the bike because it has excellent handling characteristics and is fun to ride. Incidentally, I am currently running the proper reach caliper up front because I had this nagging feeling that the long reach caliper would fail. On Monday, December 3, 2012 10:29:33 PM UTC-8, Aaron Thomas wrote: Tony, Quick head's up on your brake reach issue. Looks like you're using the wrong brake up front — and that's why the brake pads are high in the slots. Only the 650B sizes of the San Marcos (i.e. 47, 51) use the long reach Tektro 559 (55-73mm). The 700c sizes use standard reach brakes (47-57 mm). That'd be the Tektro R539 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/brsbm59.htm. Did you try putting a standard reach brake on the front? Aaron On Sunday, December 2, 2012 11:42:46 AM UTC-8, Tony Lockhart wrote: Ryan, I actually have both bikes and have some thoughts to share with you regarding both. Perhaps some of my experiences can help with your decision on which frame to purchase. I bought a Sam Hillborne a couple of years back and went through a number of drivetrain and accessory changes. It's been my go fast, commuting, townie, and cyclocross bike so I feel qualified in comparing both bikes. My Sam has had a number of personalities in regards to set up and ride characteristics. I currently have it set up as a townie with fenders, 32mm tires, drop bars, and a basket (*contemplating a dirt drop stem and flat bars with cork grips*). I also have a San Marcos set up as a commuter, club ride bike, and cyclocross bike. My San Marcos has a mix of Shimano parts, 32mm tires, a Velo Orange rack, and drop bars. *To answer your original question, the San Marcos is an excellent choice for a go fast bike.* https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8n1WhS2qYyg/ULulwQWTKsI/AuA/ifpWp81Ra2w/s1600/DSC00207.JPG *San Marcos Criticism #1* I'm not sure if this is true for different sizes, but you'll need standard reach brake calipers up front and long reach calipers in the rear if you purchase a 54cm San Marcos. I am not sure if this is true of the other sizes or with any other 54cm San Marcos frames. I am running Tektro R559 brakes on this bike--the fit of the rear calipers is spot on however long reach calipers up front don't seem to fit properly. Have a look at the attached photo and you'll see that the fork was not designed for long reach brakes. Conjecture says that this bike should use standard reach brakes and that the rear brake bridge on my bike was welded too far upwards, necessitating longer reach brakes. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hPpChC7_z00/ULul4qOoEJI/AuI/nMYrtVGrYoc/s1600/DSC00209.JPG *San Marcos Criticism #2* The dropouts on this bike suck compared to the ones on my Sam. As you can see from the photos, the front dropouts originally come with lawyer tabs--I quickly filed those off after acquiring the bike. The rear dropout eyelets are welded too closely to the frame and cause interference when trying to mount a rack or fenders. The welds get in the way and prevent you from mounting accessories in a flush manner. The second photo shows a slight gap between the rack tab and the eyelets because the welds get in the way. Moreover, the decorative part of the Soma dropouts interfere with the quick-release hub skewer--this is not the case with my Sam. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U7UDrv1Nts0/ULul_MczA-I/AuQ/gNXYgLA5_9E/s1600/DSC00210.JPG https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-OiPJ0hY_jvk/ULumDgoGmRI/AuY/pDBz7q0BIEU/s1600/DSC00212.JPG With all of that said, the San Marcos is an excellent bike and I am very pleased with it. I have no trouble maintaining an average speed of 23mph while on club rides. It is quite comfortable however feels very sporty and agile when compared to the Sam Hillborne. Since you already have a Sam, try to imagine your bike with easier maneuverability, a lighter feel when climbing, and less squirrel*liness*. If you go with
[RBW] Re: Homemade Accessories for Bikes
Andy, Pammie, and Eric: Those are some awesome creations! Great job! On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 11:53:08 AM UTC-8, EGNolan wrote: Andy- Your bike, which I found on Google somehow, was the reason I did this http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericgnolan/8064314062/in/photostream ; much more crude. If I had any sewing abilities I'd make a seat similar to yours, but I found an old saddle works well. -Eric On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 2:57:06 AM UTC-5, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: The little basket-mounted pouches are a cool idea. I've been thinking of making the same sort of thing but a little larger for the box on my Bakfiets. It's funny... the Bakfiets has got a cargo box big enough for an adult or 4 small children to ride in but I'm often at a loss for a good place to put small items like a camera or sunglasses. As far as stuff that's actually gone beyond an idea... The kid seat http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/6812051114/ comes and goes but the leather mud flap is always on my Homer. The wife has an almost matching kid seat and mud flaphttp://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/7819921346/on her Betty Foy I replaced the snaps on my Slickersack with turn buttonshttps://picasaweb.google.com/113148323994353762329/SlickersackImprovement?authuser=0feat=directlinkso it'd be easier to go on/off with stuff in the bag. This little dealhttps://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/YDPGrUWUxKfSDl9I2ssFn9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlinkgets the light out in front of my basket 'cause the beam from the handlebar mounted light was obscured when I had stuff in the basket I think my coolest homemade bike accessory is the double kid seathttp://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/6873390593/for my Big Dummy. I love my Homer and have great adventures on my Riv, but the good (and bad) times I have sharing the bike with my kids are the stuff I'll smile about on my deathbed. --Andy On Thursday, November 22, 2012 11:05:20 AM UTC-8, Tony Lockhart wrote: Hello all and Happy Thanksgiving! I just wanted to see if anyone else in the Riv community enjoys making accessories for their bikes. If this is the case, I'd love to see what innovative things you've made. In the meantime, I'll post some images of things that I've made. During the past 2 years, I have been trying to perfect the rando bag but ultimately have been displeased with its lack of sturdiness. I enjoy making them, using them for a while, then gifting them to other cycling friends--this is great because it constantly gives me the opportunity to make new bags. While rando bags look great, I have yet to make one as versatile as a Wald basket. And after many years of debate, I have decided to stick with my Wald. With that in mind, I missed the tool pockets typically found at the back of a rando bag. So, I recently decided to create a couple of pouches to hang on the back side of my basket. Both pouches are 2 inches deep, 4 inches wide, and 5 inches high. There is also an extra 3 inches of flap available if I try to over-stuff the pouches. It was relatively easy to construct these little bags because canvas is such a forgiving material to work with. I have plastic stiffeners inside the bags (very similar to the ones in Acorn bags) and velcro attachments to keep everything in place. While these dimensions may seem small, I have all of my tools in the left pouch (inner tube, patch kit, multi tool, a pair of CO2 cartridges, 3 tire levers, zip ties, and 4 Irish straps). The pouch on the right is used to keep my cell phone, garage clicker, and keys; there is quite a bit of space left for snacks, a saddle cover, and a bandana. I'd love to see the folks at Riv create some Sackville versions of these because they're extremely versatile. Have a look--I am attaching JPEG images to this post. Also, I'd love to see any other accessories people make for their bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/iXWdZsUVNzEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank
I have the earlier version of this crankset, in 26-40. It's a terrific crank. Pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157629609638106/ Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AvIQcNOk-y0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Frame Raffle
That would be a Mountain Fixte! I'm looking at what I can justify, seeing if it will come to $300 - Andrew, Berkeley On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 11:57:47 AM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: I'd do a version of that Mountain Fixie that was such a troublesome truck. Basically a fixed gear fool-around-in-the-woods bike. Able to take 60mm Big Apples and fenders, like a super-attractive version of my industrial-ugly Gravel Roadsterhttp://www.biketinker.com/2012/projects/front-bag-conversion-on-problem-solvers/. Flared drops. Threadless stem. Berthoud saddle, maybe? I like your mixte idea for standover/bailoff clearance. Maybe an Abele gray, black, or pea-sage green; something low-key for the woods. Pencil blue, maybe. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4AEwYICpEiUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Switching to Moustachios from drops?!?!
Anyone made the switch? Seems like on every drop bar bike I dun rid, I just always feel too stretched out. Even with my 7cm shorty stem and flat ramps. Even knowing I have the correct frame sizes and have the bar above saddle height now. On the tops, its always perfect. Hoods - feel too stretched out. Hooks/drops - fuggettabowdit .5 mile at a time at best, and that takes discipline. I sit up at about 50 degrees when on the hoods. So I was thinking of slapping a used moustache I have on the bike and trying that. Maybe my 44 year old bones just don't like drops anymore. Maybe i am being too persnicketty and am looking for absolute comfort, when there is no such thang on a bike? Thoughts? Anyone made the switch? The good part is it'll cost me exactly 0$ and 0 cents to try it. I can use the tape/levers/shifters from my current setup on the staches. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/18ISn5kxLc8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Switching to Moustachios from drops?!?!
PS - will the staches help me sit more upright, or not? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vC8EZRcSfX8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Switching to Moustachios from drops?!?!
On Thursday, December 6, 2012 12:56:06 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote: Anyone made the switch? Seems like on every drop bar bike I dun rid, I just always feel too stretched out. Even with my 7cm shorty stem and flat ramps. Even knowing I have the correct frame sizes and have the bar above saddle height now. On the tops, its always perfect. Hoods - feel too stretched out. Hooks/drops - fuggettabowdit .5 mile at a time at best, and that takes discipline. I sit up at about 50 degrees when on the hoods. So I was thinking of slapping a used moustache I have on the bike and trying that. Maybe my 44 year old bones just don't like drops anymore. Maybe i am being too persnicketty and am looking for absolute comfort, when there is no such thang on a bike? Thoughts? Anyone made the switch? The good part is it'll cost me exactly 0$ and 0 cents to try it. I can use the tape/levers/shifters from my current setup on the staches. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ka7rm4IGKXEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crank
It looks like my favorite (and very weird) crank of all time, the Campy Record OR for mountain bikes from the early '90s. Joe Bernard On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:56:53 PM UTC-8, reynoldslugs wrote: I have the earlier version of this crankset, in 26-40. It's a terrific crank. Pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157629609638106/ Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vyvSVyeF3iYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Road salt and Rivendells
I am going to try commuting thru the winter. Not in snow/slush. Just on the dry days. In the winter, there is a dusting of salt on the road after the snow melts away and the roads dry up around here. *Will riding on dry roads with salt residue be bad for the frame/components? * I am hoping the longboards will minimize probs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HTGqNV2SbZ4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Switching to Moustachios from drops?!?!
You'll be slightly more upright, but not hugely so. You may like them more with a shorter (1-2cm) stem. I point the ends down a bit, so the inner bends are close to horizontal. For zero outlay, give 'em a try! On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, December 6, 2012 12:56:06 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote: Anyone made the switch? Seems like on every drop bar bike I dun rid, I just always feel too stretched out. Even with my 7cm shorty stem and flat ramps. Even knowing I have the correct frame sizes and have the bar above saddle height now. On the tops, its always perfect. Hoods - feel too stretched out. Hooks/drops - fuggettabowdit .5 mile at a time at best, and that takes discipline. I sit up at about 50 degrees when on the hoods. So I was thinking of slapping a used moustache I have on the bike and trying that. Maybe my 44 year old bones just don't like drops anymore. Maybe i am being too persnicketty and am looking for absolute comfort, when there is no such thang on a bike? Thoughts? Anyone made the switch? The good part is it'll cost me exactly 0$ and 0 cents to try it. I can use the tape/levers/shifters from my current setup on the staches. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ka7rm4IGKXEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Are A. Homer, Sam, Betty, and Ives real peeps?
Are these real peeps, or just creative bike names? A. Homer Hilsen Betty Foy Yves Gomez Samuel Hillborne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Vw3wY8LJB1QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Switching to Moustachios from drops?!?!
Michael: The price is right. Give it a try. I tried M'stache a while back but didn't care for them. The front curve where the brake levers are typically mounted was too far away, and the back straight section made me turn my wrists at an awkward angle. Others swear by them. It's hard to predict about handlebars. As to persnicketiness, you should be reasonably comfortable, not feeling stretched or awkward. As to absolute comfort, well, it is a bike, not a barcalounger. dougP On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:56:06 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Anyone made the switch? Seems like on every drop bar bike I dun rid, I just always feel too stretched out. Even with my 7cm shorty stem and flat ramps. Even knowing I have the correct frame sizes and have the bar above saddle height now. On the tops, its always perfect. Hoods - feel too stretched out. Hooks/drops - fuggettabowdit .5 mile at a time at best, and that takes discipline. I sit up at about 50 degrees when on the hoods. So I was thinking of slapping a used moustache I have on the bike and trying that. Maybe my 44 year old bones just don't like drops anymore. Maybe i am being too persnicketty and am looking for absolute comfort, when there is no such thang on a bike? Thoughts? Anyone made the switch? The good part is it'll cost me exactly 0$ and 0 cents to try it. I can use the tape/levers/shifters from my current setup on the staches. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/M5yJ65KEoD4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Switching to Moustachios from drops?!?!
I'll be offering my mustache bar,dirt drop stem brake lever combo for sale soon since I'm going the other way toward drop bars. Haven't figured on a price yet but the bar and stem are Nitto with old school Dia Compe levers black hoods plus taped and twined so...oh yea and cables. On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:56:06 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Anyone made the switch? Seems like on every drop bar bike I dun rid, I just always feel too stretched out. Even with my 7cm shorty stem and flat ramps. Even knowing I have the correct frame sizes and have the bar above saddle height now. On the tops, its always perfect. Hoods - feel too stretched out. Hooks/drops - fuggettabowdit .5 mile at a time at best, and that takes discipline. I sit up at about 50 degrees when on the hoods. So I was thinking of slapping a used moustache I have on the bike and trying that. Maybe my 44 year old bones just don't like drops anymore. Maybe i am being too persnicketty and am looking for absolute comfort, when there is no such thang on a bike? Thoughts? Anyone made the switch? The good part is it'll cost me exactly 0$ and 0 cents to try it. I can use the tape/levers/shifters from my current setup on the staches. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Ru9OaDcNLjIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Are A. Homer, Sam, Betty, and Ives real peeps?
The A. Homer Hilsen was going to be the Honus Wagner until the heirs of Honus--through the law firm that represents the estates of Michael Jackson, Marilyn Monroe, Sammy Davis Jr., and Honus--and others---at the last minute before the signing of a deal which would have earned them $40 per bike sold--well, the got greedy, wanted more, wanted to be able to buy an unlimited number at our cost, basically got riduculous. So I said See You Fine Folks and then they backpedalled, but too late. We came up w ith a name that nobody owned, and it was AHH. Betty Foy is the mom and hero in The Idiot Boy, a long poem by William Wordsworth. I liked the poem so much I memorized it (can't say it all now), and in that phase I named the bike. I kinda wish it were a genderless name, or maybe a boy's name, which women don't mind buying as much as guys mind Betty Foy. So we have Yves Gomez for that. YG was a mix of unlikely first and last names, but Dave her found an Yves Gomez in Europe. We offered him a great deal on a frame (below cost), but no answer. The wife of a customer, frame owner, is Elizabeth Foy. She's been by, but didn't bite on the bike named for her even at half off. Oh well. My wife's now deceased sweet old aunt's last name was Hillborn without the E. I like the name Hillborne anyway, and Sam is a good strong name, and we went to names in the first place to sound less generic, less Strada Excelsior or whatever. Mount This, Excellerata, Le French Mtn On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:10:24 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Are these real peeps, or just creative bike names? A. Homer Hilsen Betty Foy Yves Gomez Samuel Hillborne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4WVlCCUrMPYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Velocity quality
Ok so I've had the Homer for 2 years and am about to get my third rear wheel. Here's my story: Peter White built the bike and wheels. Velocity Synergy with XT hubs and 36 spokes.I hit a pothole pretty good fairly early in the bikes life. LBS said rim couldn't be tried so they built up another Synergy with my hub. Fast forward to now. That wheel has maybe 5-7k miles on it and has stress cracks all over it. They started around the spokes and spread to the sides. So time for another. I'm working in CT now and found a LBS that knows what a Riv is. Owner builds the wheels. Well, he says that Synergy rims (and Velocity in general) are just not that good. I've heard the same thing out of a couple of other people too, and they k ow more about wheels than me. Thing is, I can't imagine why Riv and Peter would so highly recommend them if they're poor quality. But my experiences are making me wonder, what with 2 wheels in around 10k miles. LBS guy is recommending a Mavic, I think one of the CXP styles saying they're much stronger. What should I do??? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BhLh3DtKnJkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Velocity quality
There have been some bad batches of Velocity rims. I bet if you contacted Velocity, they would replace the rim free of charge, but you would have to build up the wheels. All of my Velocity rims have been good so far. I hope it stays that way. I built my first Mavic CXP wheel. It looks like a rim without eyelets, but they are hidden, so I imagine they would be stronger than say Velocity Aeroheads (which I also have). I like it a lot so far Good luck, Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.