date:20130609

Hiker biker at Moro Bay may work.  The town of Moro Bay is pretty casual.  
Drivers could park in town  ride to the campground.  It's right next to 
the town.  

Moro Strand is intriguing if the above won't work.  I didn't know about it 
 must have ridden by many times.  At San Simeon the hiker biker sites are 
next to the highway.  As Anne pointed out, San Simeon is pretty small, with 
limited services.  

dougP

On Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:09:36 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 If we want to reserve a regular site we are too late to get a good 
 campground with showers. The best ones...Morro Bay and Pismo SP's are 
 booked that weekend. 
 Morro Strand is open but no showers or and few trees for shade.  San 
 Simeon has only the primitive section open ( no showers) .  We could do the 
 hiker/biker sites for the train travelers but that wouldn't work for those 
 that drive there.

 The best of the leftovers to me is Morro Strand SP. Flush toilets, closer 
 to a decent size town, and not to far from the train station in SLO.

 any other ideas?  The Motel 6's ( two of them) are 5 miles south of SLO 
 and charge $106/n. The south one is better BTW. 

 ~mike

 On Saturday, June 8, 2013 1:36:04 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 As I recall, there are a couple of restaurants in San Simeon, but it's 
 not a very big town. Hearst Castle is amazing to visit if you've never 
 been there.  I've camped at San Simeon, Oceano and Morro Bay; as I 
 recall, Morro Bay was the nicest. 

 I also recall once, a long long time ago, riding north from Morro Bay 
 up Big Sur. Beautiful, but very very strong headwinds. That was in the 
 spring; the summer has smaller winds I think. 

 On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote: 
  Looks like we've got an event!  Now, a key driver of location: 
  
  Camping?  Morro Bay SP is adjacent to town with all the attendant 
 services. 
  San Simeon SP is a couple of miles north of San Simeon  several miles 
 north 
  of Cambria.  Oceano Dunes is adjacent to Pismo  Arroyo Grande, about 
 10 
  miles south of SLO.  Area has a mix of lodging as well. 
  
  Lodging?  SLO is a natural, with tons of places.  Cambria is right on 
 the 
  coast BUT you have to snag a decent rate catch a deal well in advance 
 or 
  take your chances on day of.  Moro Bay also has lodging so if it's a 
 mix 
  of campers  lodgers that may be preferable. 
  
  Personally I favor camping within walking distance of a restaurant (not 
  being much of a cook).  What do others prefer? 
  
  dougP 
  
  On Friday, June 7, 2013 11:48:51 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: 
  
  So date seems set. 
  
  July 27-28 For the Rivendell Ramble Rumble (California Edition) 
  
  Now lets agree on a place where we can meet. 
  
  Lets worry about route and places to sleep afterwords. If we can all 
 agree 
  on a central place then those things will fall into place. 
  Not like any of those things are super important.. We can make 
 those 
  things up as we go! 
  
  
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[RBW] Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

Any suggestions? These things are a bear (and no maiden fair). I'm just
about ready to give up as I can get them mounted, but can't get a tube
inside. I'm currently hoping they stretch/take shape a little bit on the
rim if I leave there for a while, but don't have a lot of hope.

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[RBW] Re: In-line cable housing quick release helpers?

2013-06-09 Thread Eric Peterson



Keep your Shimano brakes, but compromise with levers like these:

http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/brakes/levers/tektro-aero-brake-levers-rl340-silver.html

Eric Peterson

Naperville, IL

On Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:21:13 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 The Shimano AR550s on my Ram are great brakes, but they don't open wide 
 enough to let a 31 mm Parigi Roubaix through while inflated -- I popped a 
 brake shoe off yesterday (it was the old fashion kind with the aluminum 
 holder, so I just flared the sides, shoved it back in, and crimped them 
 shut -- all well again). 

 I know Riv sells the Tektro 539s (11 mm increase vs. 4 mm) but (1) I don't 
 wanna pay $77 and (2) I want a pure Shi*mano bike. Aesthetics and 
 obsessions count, you know.

 Are there any mid-housing devices to allow more opening for brake arches?

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[RBW] Re: Devil's Head Ramble

2013-06-09 Thread bwphoto

Patrick and Mike great photos and stories, the panos from the look out are 
very nice, next time out to Colorado I want to head that way. Having to 
bail on a is something I smacked head first into last year my first summer 
back on bike, I naively undertook my longest ride the day the heat index 
was extremely high, based on memories of man long rides in eastern Oregon 
and other places, so going 25 miles seemed easy. The thing I forgot, even 
though I'd trained all winter, was I was 15 years older with out the 
lifetime base I had maintained previously. Anyway, I checked in with my 
wife a couple of times on the return, to let her know I may be running late 
for an appointment we had that evening. the last check in I sounded kind of 
befuddled to her, so much so that she insisted she pick me up on her way 
home from work. That was the first time that ever happened to me. 

When she did pick me up she recognized that I was in the early stages of 
heat exhaustion, I was shocked to say the least after all 15 years ago I 
could regularly ride 100 miles in heat. That was my first lesson in the 
difference between my perceived age and ability and what I was actually 
able to do. It is still something I have a hard time realizing.

Anyway thanks for the vicarious adventure, Mike your Oregon photos mad me 
homesick, but I love them.

On Saturday, June 8, 2013 9:13:20 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Gadzooks! It's hard to imagine a 140 (let alone 180) mile day. Impressive. 
 In hindsight, had I turned left on 67 for Deckers, I would have had 
 secluded paved road most of the way back. No cell signal till I'm almost 
 home, but I likely would have gotten water and returned under my own power. 
 I wasn't cooked, but arguably my brain was. Sardonic grin.   

 On Saturday, June 8, 2013 7:24:47 PM UTC-6, Mike wrote:


 On Saturday, June 8, 2013 5:33:36 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: 

  First, I am a blessed man, to have a wife who will come howl my 
 carcass out of whatever pickle I manage to get myself into.

  
 I remember a few years ago setting out on a 300k ride with a friend on a 
 super hot summer day. On the way back, with say 75k to go I called my wife 
 to check in with her and tell her I was completely cooked. I couldn't 
 believe it, without any hesitation she said Do you want me to come get 
 you? I was so happy. It was so hot. I was totally cooked. My friend 
 continued on. Beth came and got me and saved me an unpleasant climb, the 
 monotony of the bike path into Portland and then having to ride across the 
 city. 
  
 Pictures if you're interested:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157621778650380/
  
 As for your ride Patrick, amazing landscape. While I have easy access to 
 wooded riding, it's nothing like that. Looking forward to more images as 
 summer progresses.
  
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[RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

2013-06-09 Thread Michael



 Is this a folding tire?

First time using a folding tire, if I remember correctly, I had to shape it 
with my hands to get it to pocket open to accept a tube.

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[RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

2013-06-09 Thread Esteban

Looks like they're ready to stick into an envelope and send to me.

On Sunday, June 9, 2013 12:07:45 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Any suggestions? These things are a bear (and no maiden fair). I'm just 
 about ready to give up as I can get them mounted, but can't get a tube 
 inside. I'm currently hoping they stretch/take shape a little bit on the 
 rim if I leave there for a while, but don't have a lot of hope.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8999429698/in/photostream/



 Cheers,
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[RBW] Quickbeam coming together

2013-06-09 Thread Esteban

At long last, this frame will be built up for some summer fun!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/8998585724/

I'm going with 40t TA and 16t freewheel and 15t fixed, hoping to play 
around riding fixed this summer, as I've only experimented 
previously.Pauls, Thompson, and a rad Deep V front wheel I got at a bike 
swap. May go with a colorblend front tire in honor of Sheldon.

My friend William uses a 90 degree stem with the Jitensha bars, as it gives 
them a tilt that's supposed to be ergonomic. Any thoughts?

Esteban
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Re: [RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

That may be happening sooner rather than later!

Cheers,
David

On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:

Looks like they're ready to stick into an envelope and send to me.

On Sunday, June 9, 2013 12:07:45 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

Any suggestions? These things are a bear (and no maiden fair). I'm just
about ready to give up as I can get them mounted, but can't get a tube
inside. I'm currently hoping they stretch/take shape a little bit on the
rim if I leave there for a while, but don't have a lot of hope.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/**cyclotourist/8999429698/in/**photostream/http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8999429698/in/photostream/

Cheers,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

I had folding tires forever and ever, but never one like this. Wow, just
wow...

Cheers,
David



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 Is this a folding tire?

 First time using a folding tire, if I remember correctly, I had to shape
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[RBW] Re: In-line cable housing quick release helpers?

Thanks for all the responses. I like Garth's idea best:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TEAMSSX-New-JAGWIRE-inline-adjuster-5mm-brake-cable-BSA058-Black-/300907763957

For foolish, inefficient, and sentimental reasons I'd like to keep my
current generic Shimano brake levers (unless I switch to period Dura Ace
ones) as well as the Shimano calipers -- I want as much as possible an
all-Shimano build (one day will replace the TA with a 7400 crank, too). So
far: DA, or at least Shimano:

hs
brakesets
drivetrain except for the crank and bb
hubs (newerish Ultegra rear and old XT front)
pedals

One day:

Cranks
bb
seatpost

Actually, if the Stan's continues to live up to my hopes, the brake pad
clearance issue will be largely a non-issue. I took the rear wheel off
t'other day because I wanted to get at the rack strut with a hacksaw
without removing the rack.

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[RBW] Your method of going around brake levers with cloth bar tape?

2013-06-09 Thread velomann

I recently switched to starting from both ends and ending at the brale levers. 
So long as I'm usng cloth tape and shellacing, I don't imagine I'll ever do it 
any other way from now on - works great.

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[RBW] WTT: 170 mm Stronglight 99 left are, vg, for ditto TA Pro 5 Vis arm.

As it says in the subject line. I find myself with a mismatched
TA/Stronglight crankset and would like to regularlze the marriage.

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Re: [RBW] Your method of going around brake levers with cloth bar tape?

IIRC, Grant had an article in a long ago RR about taping bars.

I use a separate 3 strip around each lever and behind the bar -- hold it
on with a spot of glue or something -- and then wind tape around the lever
body from the bottom -- and hope that the roll is long enough. But I rarely
use cloth tape.

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 levers. So long as I'm usng cloth tape and shellacing, I don't imagine I'll
 ever do it any other way from now on - works great.

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Re: [RBW] Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

Mount the other bead and let them sit for a week, then try again. My Parigi
Roubaix look exactly the same with one bead on, but they accept a fattish
(28 mm) tube and mount up easily with no tools. I'll bet that yours will
also stretch.

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 Any suggestions? These things are a bear (and no maiden fair). I'm just
 about ready to give up as I can get them mounted, but can't get a tube
 inside. I'm currently hoping they stretch/take shape a little bit on the
 rim if I leave there for a while, but don't have a lot of hope.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8999429698/in/photostream/



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Re: [RBW] Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

That's what I've done, hoping it will help. The beads aren't so terribly
tight, it's just the way they lie so flat on the rim I can't get the tube
in there.


So stretching and will report back later!

Cheers,
David



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 Mount the other bead and let them sit for a week, then try again. My
 Parigi Roubaix look exactly the same with one bead on, but they accept a
 fattish (28 mm) tube and mount up easily with no tools. I'll bet that yours
 will also stretch.

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 Any suggestions? These things are a bear (and no maiden fair). I'm just
 about ready to give up as I can get them mounted, but can't get a tube
 inside. I'm currently hoping they stretch/take shape a little bit on the
 rim if I leave there for a while, but don't have a lot of hope.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8999429698/in/photostream/



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[RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

2013-06-09 Thread Garth


This is me of course, but I would not take it , no matter how great a tire 
was ! Hey, what if you get a flat ?  Fun fun fun !! Ahahahahaha 
!!!   
No tire need be that tight, ever. Have you spoken to wherever you bought 
them from ?  They should know the 411 of installing them, or they should 
take them back for exchange. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

Others have said that once installed and used a bit that they are easier to
take on and off. I'm hoping that is true or else I'll let them go.
Definitely don't want any road-side drama!


Cheers,
David



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 This is me of course, but I would not take it , no matter how great a tire
 was ! Hey, what if you get a flat ?  Fun fun fun !! Ahahahahaha
 !!!
 No tire need be that tight, ever. Have you spoken to wherever you bought
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Re: [RBW] Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

Again, my Parigi Roubaix lie as flat as a ribbon, even though they are
loose enough that I can remove the beads from the rim with my hands -- that
is, I don't need a tire lever to remove or replace the beads. Mine are
stretched, of course, but so will yours be after a few days.

Once the beads are loose enough, it's no big deal to shape the carcasse
to accept the slightly inflated tube (I blow it up with my mouth), that is,
wrap it with your hands over the slightly inflated tube, and then work
the remaining bead over the rim.

My rims are Open Pros, for what that is worth.

On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 4:11 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's what I've done, hoping it will help. The beads aren't so terribly
 tight, it's just the way they lie so flat on the rim I can't get the tube
 in there.


 So stretching and will report back later!

 Cheers,
 David



 On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:29 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mount the other bead and let them sit for a week, then try again. My
 Parigi Roubaix look exactly the same with one bead on, but they accept a
 fattish (28 mm) tube and mount up easily with no tools. I'll bet that yours
 will also stretch.

 On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:07 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Any suggestions? These things are a bear (and no maiden fair). I'm just
 about ready to give up as I can get them mounted, but can't get a tube
 inside. I'm currently hoping they stretch/take shape a little bit on the
 rim if I leave there for a while, but don't have a lot of hope.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8999429698/in/photostream/



 Cheers,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

One more remark: my 23 mm (22 mm actual on 19 mm outside rims) 650C
Michelin Pro Race 3s also lay flat-as-a-ribbon after initial installation,
and had the additional difficulty of being much narrower than the Parigi
Roubaix. Still, using the technique I described, the tube went in and the
beads went on on the first installation, and afterward they got easier --
still harder than the wider P-R.

I think that if you let them stretch, then try again, you will find that
it's not that hard.

On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 4:12 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 Others have said that once installed and used a bit that they are easier
 to take on and off. I'm hoping that is true or else I'll let them go.
 Definitely don't want any road-side drama!


 Cheers,
 David



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 This is me of course, but I would not take it , no matter how great a
 tire was ! Hey, what if you get a flat ?  Fun fun fun !!
 Ahahahahaha !!!
 No tire need be that tight, ever. Have you spoken to wherever you bought
 them from ?  They should know the 411 of installing them, or they should
 take them back for exchange.

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[RBW] Quickbeam coming together

2013-06-09 Thread justinaugust

Beautiful! As always. 
I ride with the Jitensha/Postino/Pope bars tilted down a bit to up the comfort 
level. One possibility is to put some tape on the frontmost bends to add a 
climbing position. Also try those Resist Nomads for some bounce for your riding!

-J,PHL

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Re: [RBW] Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

2013-06-09 Thread Steve Palincsar

On Sun, 2013-06-09 at 12:07 -0700, cyclotourist wrote:
 Any suggestions? These things are a bear (and no maiden fair). I'm
 just about ready to give up as I can get them mounted, but can't get a
 tube inside. I'm currently hoping they stretch/take shape a little bit
 on the rim if I leave there for a while, but don't have a lot of hope.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8999429698/in/photostream/


My experience is with Parigi-Roubaix, but they're the same thing, only
narrower.

A used tire mounts easily and can be removed without tools.  A new tire
is another story.  

I decided to pre-stretch the tire on an old wheel I had around in the
shed.  It was extremely difficult getting the first bead on at all.  I
had to use tire levers to wedge it on, and a toe strap to hold my gains.
I then installed the other side without a tube using tire levers and let
the tire sit for a couple of days.  A little spray on the inside of the
bead with Windex helped get the last bit over.

After that initial stretching period, I removed one side and installed a
narrow 700x23 tube, then remounted the tire (challenging, but nothing
like the first time, and again a little spritz with Windex helped) and
inflated the tube.

After a week or so I found I needed to mount the tire on a wheel that's
actually used on the bike.  It mounted with a little difficulty, but
nothing I'd write a list posting about.

In my opinion, pre-stretching is the way to go with these Challenge
tires.



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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam coming together

2013-06-09 Thread Deacon Patrick

THe QB is a beautiful bike and this build looks great with it. Enjoy!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, June 9, 2013 2:18:17 PM UTC-6, Esteban wrote:

 At long last, this frame will be built up for some summer fun!

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/8998585724/

 I'm going with 40t TA and 16t freewheel and 15t fixed, hoping to play 
 around riding fixed this summer, as I've only experimented 
 previously.Pauls, Thompson, and a rad Deep V front wheel I got at a bike 
 swap. May go with a colorblend front tire in honor of Sheldon.

 My friend William uses a 90 degree stem with the Jitensha bars, as it 
 gives them a tilt that's supposed to be ergonomic. Any thoughts?

 Esteban
 San Diego, Calif.


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[RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

2013-06-09 Thread Ron Mc

curious, I just went to try, and snapped a Strada 25mm clincher from the 
box onto my daughter's new wheel with no special effort at all.  It would 
be no trouble to start a tube, etc.  
This is a blackwall, maybe a difference?  

On Sunday, June 9, 2013 2:07:45 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Any suggestions? These things are a bear (and no maiden fair). I'm just 
 about ready to give up as I can get them mounted, but can't get a tube 
 inside. I'm currently hoping they stretch/take shape a little bit on the 
 rim if I leave there for a while, but don't have a lot of hope.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8999429698/in/photostream/



 Cheers,
 David

  

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam coming together

2013-06-09 Thread Minh

My quick beam came with mustache bars, which were awesome, I switched to Albas 
and had my doubts at first but I've since sold themoustache bars. It's amazing 
how,versatile the quickbeam is!

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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam coming together

2013-06-09 Thread James Warren

Better measure it to make sure it's not a 64! : )Dude that bike looks like it's gonna be sweet!-Original Message-
From: Esteban 
Sent: Jun 9, 2013 1:18 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Quickbeam coming together

At long last, this frame will be built up for some summer fun!http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/8998585724/I'm going with 40t TA and 16t freewheel and 15t fixed, hoping to play around riding fixed this summer, as I've only experimented previously.Pauls, Thompson, and a rad Deep V front wheel I got at a bike swap. May go with a colorblend front tire in honor of Sheldon.My friend William uses a 90 degree stem with the Jitensha bars, as it gives them a tilt that's supposed to be ergonomic. Any thoughts?EstebanSan Diego, Calif.

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[RBW] Roadeo Ride report with a twist

2013-06-09 Thread Trevor saxton

So i took my newly acquired Roadeo for a 200km charity ride this weekend 
(100km per day), it was a Ride to Conquer Cancer, 

Roade was set up thusly 

46cm Noodle Bars 
Microshit Bar End Shifters 
42/26 White Industries Crank 
Ultegra/Open Pro Wheelset
11-28 cassette 

What I learned during the ride

4 rides totalling 125km over a 2 month span DOES NOT constitute and 
adequate training plan for a ride covering 200km over 2 days
Riding a bike over 200km before you have dialed in the fit in NOT a good 
idea
a 42/28 crankset is perfect for handling the most extreme climbs (their 
were 4 brutal ones over the two days) however it leaves you short on the 
flats and struggling to keep up, this crankset will be moved to a 650b 
commuter/rando bike and replace with a 46/32 crank that will serve me much 
better assuming i train a little harder for next year which should not be 
hard

Its been a rough 2 months since I lost my beloved wife to Cancer, she was 
my inspiration from the day I met her and will be to the day I die.  Most 
importantly I learned how important it is to Just get back on the bike 
which is one of the mottos of the ride, despite dealing with leg cramps and 
saddle sores and a group that dropped me after every put stop (with my 
blessings of course) I managed to keep getting back on the bike knowing 
that what I was going through  was nothing compared to what cancer patients 
and their families live with every day.  The event raised 19.1 Million 
Dollars and I remain hopeful that Cancer will be beaten in my lifetime.  

The roadeo itself  rode beautifully and attracted a few appreciative 
comments particularly form the bike mechanics who donated their time as 
well as needed parts for riders in distress at every pit stop.   I look 
forward to making the needed fit adjustments which will serve to make the 
bike even more comfortable and lively, I cannot imagine how painful the 
ride would have been on a different bike. 

t will upload more photos tomorrow 


 

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Re: [RBW] just ride sighting

2013-06-09 Thread Aaron Young

I am pretty sure one of those pictures is more about the bike than the
house. :)

-Aaron
Vancouver, WA, but soon to be The Dalles, OR.

On Saturday, June 8, 2013, cyclotourist wrote:

Awesome!

Cheers,
David

On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote:

Hah! I think Riv might be a new house staging trend. Check this out:

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1518-W-13th-St-The-Dalles-OR-97058/86346788_zpid/#hdp-photo-lightbox

-Aaron
Vancouver, WA

On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:

Liesl,
I would love to meet up - but I don't live in Madison. My Little brother
lives up there and me and the SO have talked about moving up there. We like
the feel and the bike-ness of it. Not sure we can leave Durham, NC, though.
It's a good problem to have, to love too many places. :)

And onto the subject - yes - I would love to be in a swank jenifer st
retreat, too.

I can picture a nice day:
Get up, paddle across the lake and back
Bike down to new glarus brewery
bike home
fall asleep watching the sun go down.

wash, rinse, repeat

-sv

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Good eye! I used to live in Madison—well, actually I grew up there— and
come back for a visit on occasion. When I do, I'll give you a holler,
Seth. Hopefully you'll be in your swank Jenifer Street Lake Monona retreat!

Liesl

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Re: [RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

Does this mean you'll soon be needing Rob's Vittoria Rando Hypers? I was
planning on doing some sort of mini-tour before the end of June before
giving them up to you.

dougP

On Sunday, June 9, 2013 2:05:31 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

That may be happening sooner rather than later!

Cheers,
David

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Looks like they're ready to stick into an envelope and send to me.

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[RBW] Re: Roadeo Ride report with a twist

Trevor:

Fantastic that you undertook this challenge  shared your story with us.  
We all must recognize that cancer touches most of our lives in some way, 
and do what we can to help out.  You are so right that no matter how we may 
feel we are suffering on the bike, it's nothing compared to what cancer 
victims endure.  For you to manage this only 2 months after losing your 
wife is truly remarkable.  Congratulations for what must have been a gut 
wrenching effort.  

dougP

On Sunday, June 9, 2013 5:13:11 PM UTC-7, Trevor saxton wrote:

 So i took my newly acquired Roadeo for a 200km charity ride this weekend 
 (100km per day), it was a Ride to Conquer Cancer, 

 Roade was set up thusly 

 46cm Noodle Bars 
 Microshit Bar End Shifters 
 42/26 White Industries Crank 
 Ultegra/Open Pro Wheelset
 11-28 cassette 

 What I learned during the ride

 4 rides totalling 125km over a 2 month span DOES NOT constitute and 
 adequate training plan for a ride covering 200km over 2 days
 Riding a bike over 200km before you have dialed in the fit in NOT a good 
 idea
 a 42/28 crankset is perfect for handling the most extreme climbs (their 
 were 4 brutal ones over the two days) however it leaves you short on the 
 flats and struggling to keep up, this crankset will be moved to a 650b 
 commuter/rando bike and replace with a 46/32 crank that will serve me much 
 better assuming i train a little harder for next year which should not be 
 hard

 Its been a rough 2 months since I lost my beloved wife to Cancer, she was 
 my inspiration from the day I met her and will be to the day I die.  Most 
 importantly I learned how important it is to Just get back on the bike 
 which is one of the mottos of the ride, despite dealing with leg cramps and 
 saddle sores and a group that dropped me after every put stop (with my 
 blessings of course) I managed to keep getting back on the bike knowing 
 that what I was going through  was nothing compared to what cancer patients 
 and their families live with every day.  The event raised 19.1 Million 
 Dollars and I remain hopeful that Cancer will be beaten in my lifetime.  

 The roadeo itself  rode beautifully and attracted a few appreciative 
 comments particularly form the bike mechanics who donated their time as 
 well as needed parts for riders in distress at every pit stop.   I look 
 forward to making the needed fit adjustments which will serve to make the 
 bike even more comfortable and lively, I cannot imagine how painful the 
 ride would have been on a different bike. 

 t will upload more photos tomorrow 


  


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Re: [RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

Luckily I have a perfectly good pair of Jack Browns that I foolishly took
off to try these out. I was tire-curious. I'll let them stretch on the rims
over a couple of days, but am not holding out much hope. Shouldn't have to
have a four part assembly to mount some tires! :-)

Cheers,
David

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Does this mean you'll soon be needing Rob's Vittoria Rando Hypers? I was
planning on doing some sort of mini-tour before the end of June before
giving them up to you.

dougP

On Sunday, June 9, 2013 2:05:31 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

That may be happening sooner rather than later!

Cheers,
David

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Looks like they're ready to stick into an envelope and send to me.

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[RBW] Flying Wheels

2013-06-09 Thread Benedikt

I rode Cascade's Flying Wheels summer century yesterday. Beautiful ride. I 
saw a lot of steel bikes but noo Riv's. Did anyone else ride?

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[RBW] Re: Flying Wheels

2013-06-09 Thread Andy Williams

I rode on my Bleriot!   Saw a Rambouillet.   And, lots of carbon, 
pacelines, lycra.but the scenery was beautiful and the weather good.

And, as Manny says, pictures prove it happened.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/awilliams53/sets/72157634035004741/

Andy

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Re: [RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

2013-06-09 Thread Steve Palincsar

On Sun, 2013-06-09 at 18:03 -0700, cyclotourist wrote:
 Luckily I have a perfectly good pair of Jack Browns that I foolishly
 took off to try these out. I was tire-curious. I'll let them stretch
 on the rims over a couple of days, but am not holding out much hope.
 Shouldn't have to have a four part assembly to mount some tires! :-)
 

It's customary to pre-stretch tubulars, and the thing about these
Challenge tires is they're made a lot like a tubular, of very similar
materials.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

They definitely have a different feel compared to any other tire I've
handled. Hoping they work out well, but not exactly throwing away my other
tires quite yet... :-)

Cheers,
David



On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On Sun, 2013-06-09 at 18:03 -0700, cyclotourist wrote:
  Luckily I have a perfectly good pair of Jack Browns that I foolishly
  took off to try these out. I was tire-curious. I'll let them stretch
  on the rims over a couple of days, but am not holding out much hope.
  Shouldn't have to have a four part assembly to mount some tires! :-)
 

 It's customary to pre-stretch tubulars, and the thing about these
 Challenge tires is they're made a lot like a tubular, of very similar
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[RBW] OT - high up in the Texas hill country

2013-06-09 Thread Ron Mc

I thought this photo came out nice.  My buddy Stevo had a weekend birthday 
bash for his daughter at his mother-in-law's ranch on Muesebach Creek SE of 
Fredericksburg.  My daughter was among the guests, so we had planned a 
morning ride while the girls were sleeping in, and I drove in early this 
morning with his bike and mine.  He has a Reno ride after labor day, so his 
mind is on training for the climb.  
Started off in light rain, but Texas summer rains don't cover much 
territory.  We rode to Luchenbach and climbed on to our rest stop at the 
Old Tunnel Wildlife Area, which is on top of the divide between the 
Guadalupe and Pedernales Rivers

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/aP6090007.jpg

About 50' below us, as the name implies, about 4 million Mexican freetail 
bat mamas are napping.  Their offspring, along with 50 million others, are 
in the nursery cave in Breckenridge - 50 miles away.  The daddies stay in 
Mexico.  The mamas feed them 5 times each night - astounding they find 
their own.  Certainly a cool place at sundown, since you have good access 
to the tunnel outlet - one of the few places you can get up close and 
personal with the emerging bats.  Here's a short video taken a few years 
ago.  
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bulldog1935/media/mosquito/bats/bats035.mp4.html
 From May to October, all the airports in the region have a 45-minutes 
embargo every evening around the bat emergence, since it blocks their 
radar.  

Anyway, it was a quick ride down to some great strawberry and pecan 
pancakes waiting for us.  The girls picked the fresh strawberries yesterday 
and Stevo's BIL roasted them with the pecans to make the pancakes - he's 
quite a chef.  Oh yes, the ride - we had about a 5-mile downhill before we 
got to the slight climb at the Muesebach creek divide - we were flying 
downhill.  

Here's my buddy Stevo.  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP6090004.jpg

We've been riding together since 6th grade (also fly fishing, camping and 
kayaking).  We rode together in college in Austin.  Rode together with and 
without our ex-wives (all of them).  

Now our teenage daughters are best friends, and we do all these things with 
them, as well.  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/campout/aP3110031.jpg






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Re: [RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

2013-06-09 Thread Steve Palincsar

On Sun, 2013-06-09 at 18:46 -0700, cyclotourist wrote:
 They definitely have a different feel compared to any other tire I've
 handled. Hoping they work out well, but not exactly throwing away my
 other tires quite yet... :-)
 

They could have called the Parigi Roubaix the Janus.  One of the best
riding tires, by far the best for its size, I've ever tried; but I've
never seen a tire that flatted so easily.  

The Pari Moto is comparable in tread thickness (i.e., both have very
thin treads) to the Parigi Roubaix, but in my experience was many times
more robust.  I went 1500 miles with the Pari Moto without a flat,
whereas the most I've ever gone on a Parigi Roubaix is 300 miles before
having a flat.  

I've sometimes found myself in a horrible approach-avoidance conflict: I
want to take the bike that's got them mounted, but I don't dare take it
on a club ride, especially not if I'm leading. 


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[RBW] Re: Roadeo Ride report with a twist

2013-06-09 Thread Mike

Trevor, sorry for your loss. Glad you made it through the weekend. Some say 
it's easier to stay in shape than get in shape and I know what they mean 
but it's just not always possible to stay in shape as life intervenes in 
ways that trump cycling. I like what Grant and others on this list say... 
just ride.
 
--mike

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[RBW] FS Honjo, Grand Bois bars, 110bcd chainrings, etc

2013-06-09 Thread JL

Hello all,

I have a few things for sale - all prices include shipping in conUS

email offlist for pics and purchase.  Paypal personal payments please.

Honjo 700c x 45mm hammered fenders - work with 25 - 32mm tires .  best fit 
with 28mm 700c.  -$80 (odd size high cost to ship)
Grand Bois Maes Handlebars 42cm - $60
NEW Shimano 105/ultegra 50/34t compact chainrings 10s (will work with 7/8/9 
chains) 110bcd - $40 for set.
Panaracer Pasela TG 700x35c  tires VGC - $40 pair (good for underbiking) 
NITTO 46cm classic road bars - $40
NEW Shimano Brake Levers for road bars - $20
10cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem VGC - $50
Assorted used 110bcd chainrings 36 or 38t  - $15
NEW Vintage Suntour 7speed DT shifters - $20
Vintage Campagnolo Record 5 speed rear wheel with weinnman concave rim and 
unmatching front wheel.  27 - $30 (no shipping to big/heavy)

Thanks
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SF, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

Hopefully these Eroicas (presuming I get them mounted) won't be quite that
delicate. To my imprecise hand, they feel about the same thickness as my
worn Jack Brown Greens, and those have only punctured once, and was
actually a spoke poke so didn't count. If they just don't work out there's
a ready market for them, so I won't lose too much money on the educational
process.

Cheers,
David



On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On Sun, 2013-06-09 at 18:46 -0700, cyclotourist wrote:
  They definitely have a different feel compared to any other tire I've
  handled. Hoping they work out well, but not exactly throwing away my
  other tires quite yet... :-)
 

 They could have called the Parigi Roubaix the Janus.  One of the best
 riding tires, by far the best for its size, I've ever tried; but I've
 never seen a tire that flatted so easily.

 The Pari Moto is comparable in tread thickness (i.e., both have very
 thin treads) to the Parigi Roubaix, but in my experience was many times
 more robust.  I went 1500 miles with the Pari Moto without a flat,
 whereas the most I've ever gone on a Parigi Roubaix is 300 miles before
 having a flat.

 I've sometimes found myself in a horrible approach-avoidance conflict: I
 want to take the bike that's got them mounted, but I don't dare take it
 on a club ride, especially not if I'm leading.


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[RBW] Re: Flying Wheels

2013-06-09 Thread Benedikt

Nice pics. Did you ride the 100? I started riding right at 8:00am in the 
100. I always get huge compliments on my bike and fantastic shock and awe 
when I tell them how much it weighs. (There's really nothing light about my 
bike.)

- Brian

On Sunday, June 9, 2013 6:24:54 PM UTC-7, Andy Williams wrote:

 I rode on my Bleriot!   Saw a Rambouillet.   And, lots of carbon, 
 pacelines, lycra.but the scenery was beautiful and the weather good.

 And, as Manny says, pictures prove it happened.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/awilliams53/sets/72157634035004741/

 Andy

 On Sunday, June 9, 2013 6:03:55 PM UTC-7, Benedikt wrote:

 I rode Cascade's Flying Wheels summer century yesterday. Beautiful ride. 
 I saw a lot of steel bikes but noo Riv's. Did anyone else ride?



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[RBW] Re: OT - high up in the Texas hill country

2013-06-09 Thread Deacon Patrick

Awesome!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, June 9, 2013 7:48:05 PM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:

 I thought this photo came out nice.  My buddy Stevo had a weekend birthday 
 bash for his daughter at his mother-in-law's ranch on Muesebach Creek SE of 
 Fredericksburg.  My daughter was among the guests, so we had planned a 
 morning ride while the girls were sleeping in, and I drove in early this 
 morning with his bike and mine.  He has a Reno ride after labor day, so his 
 mind is on training for the climb.  
 Started off in light rain, but Texas summer rains don't cover much 
 territory.  We rode to Luchenbach and climbed on to our rest stop at the 
 Old Tunnel Wildlife Area, which is on top of the divide between the 
 Guadalupe and Pedernales Rivers

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/aP6090007.jpg

 About 50' below us, as the name implies, about 4 million Mexican freetail 
 bat mamas are napping.  Their offspring, along with 50 million others, are 
 in the nursery cave in Breckenridge - 50 miles away.  The daddies stay in 
 Mexico.  The mamas feed them 5 times each night - astounding they find 
 their own.  Certainly a cool place at sundown, since you have good access 
 to the tunnel outlet - one of the few places you can get up close and 
 personal with the emerging bats.  Here's a short video taken a few years 
 ago.  
 http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bulldog1935/media/mosquito/bats/bats035.mp4.html
  From May to October, all the airports in the region have a 45-minutes 
 embargo every evening around the bat emergence, since it blocks their 
 radar.  

 Anyway, it was a quick ride down to some great strawberry and pecan 
 pancakes waiting for us.  The girls picked the fresh strawberries yesterday 
 and Stevo's BIL roasted them with the pecans to make the pancakes - he's 
 quite a chef.  Oh yes, the ride - we had about a 5-mile downhill before we 
 got to the slight climb at the Muesebach creek divide - we were flying 
 downhill.  

 Here's my buddy Stevo.  


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP6090004.jpg

 We've been riding together since 6th grade (also fly fishing, camping and 
 kayaking).  We rode together in college in Austin.  Rode together with and 
 without our ex-wives (all of them).  

 Now our teenage daughters are best friends, and we do all these things 
 with them, as well.  


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/campout/aP3110031.jpg








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[RBW] Re: Roadeo Ride report with a twist

2013-06-09 Thread Deacon Patrick

Beautiful report, Trevor! My deepest condolences to you and your family. 
Grieving is a life-long journey, just allow the waves to wash over you. May 
God's healing balm embrace you and may God startle you with joy!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, June 9, 2013 6:13:11 PM UTC-6, Trevor saxton wrote:

 So i took my newly acquired Roadeo for a 200km charity ride this weekend 
 (100km per day), it was a Ride to Conquer Cancer, 

 Roade was set up thusly 

 46cm Noodle Bars 
 Microshit Bar End Shifters 
 42/26 White Industries Crank 
 Ultegra/Open Pro Wheelset
 11-28 cassette 

 What I learned during the ride

 4 rides totalling 125km over a 2 month span DOES NOT constitute and 
 adequate training plan for a ride covering 200km over 2 days
 Riding a bike over 200km before you have dialed in the fit in NOT a good 
 idea
 a 42/28 crankset is perfect for handling the most extreme climbs (their 
 were 4 brutal ones over the two days) however it leaves you short on the 
 flats and struggling to keep up, this crankset will be moved to a 650b 
 commuter/rando bike and replace with a 46/32 crank that will serve me much 
 better assuming i train a little harder for next year which should not be 
 hard

 Its been a rough 2 months since I lost my beloved wife to Cancer, she was 
 my inspiration from the day I met her and will be to the day I die.  Most 
 importantly I learned how important it is to Just get back on the bike 
 which is one of the mottos of the ride, despite dealing with leg cramps and 
 saddle sores and a group that dropped me after every put stop (with my 
 blessings of course) I managed to keep getting back on the bike knowing 
 that what I was going through  was nothing compared to what cancer patients 
 and their families live with every day.  The event raised 19.1 Million 
 Dollars and I remain hopeful that Cancer will be beaten in my lifetime.  

 The roadeo itself  rode beautifully and attracted a few appreciative 
 comments particularly form the bike mechanics who donated their time as 
 well as needed parts for riders in distress at every pit stop.   I look 
 forward to making the needed fit adjustments which will serve to make the 
 bike even more comfortable and lively, I cannot imagine how painful the 
 ride would have been on a different bike. 

 t will upload more photos tomorrow 


  


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Re: [RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

Whew! Thank you, Jack Brown. So I'll stick to my original schedule
circulate the Vittorias your way late June / early July. Meanwhile, good
luck with the tire stretching exercise. After all that effort they better
be good.

dougP

On Sunday, June 9, 2013 6:03:24 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

Cheers,
David

On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 5:47 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net javascript:wrote:

Does this mean you'll soon be needing Rob's Vittoria Rando Hypers? I was
planning on doing some sort of mini-tour before the end of June before
giving them up to you.

dougP

On Sunday, June 9, 2013 2:05:31 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

That may be happening sooner rather than later!

Cheers,
David

On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Esteban prot...@gmail.com wrote:

Looks like they're ready to stick into an envelope and send to me.

On Sunday, June 9, 2013 12:07:45 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

Any suggestions? These things are a bear (and no maiden fair). I'm
just about ready to give up as I can get them mounted, but can't get a
tube
inside. I'm currently hoping they stretch/take shape a little bit on the
rim if I leave there for a while, but don't have a lot of hope.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/**c**yclotourist/8999429698/in/**phot**
ostream/http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8999429698/in/photostream/

Cheers,
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[RBW] Re: Your method of going around brake levers with cloth bar tape?

2013-06-09 Thread Michael



 Issue 9, pg. 15

 

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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

2013-06-09 Thread Mike Schiller

Morro Strand is north of the main business area. Right on the ocean north 
of the big rock( Morro) .  

I'm probably going to ride the Surfliner up on Friday. Depending on when 
others are arriving I'll probably stay at Morro Bay SP hiker/biker that 
night.
Thinking about riding back down to Ventura on Monday-Tuesday. 

~mike


On Sunday, June 9, 2013 11:50:38 AM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 Hiker biker at Moro Bay may work.  The town of Moro Bay is pretty casual.  
 Drivers could park in town  ride to the campground.  It's right next to 
 the town.  

 Moro Strand is intriguing if the above won't work.  I didn't know about it 
  must have ridden by many times.  At San Simeon the hiker biker sites are 
 next to the highway.  As Anne pointed out, San Simeon is pretty small, with 
 limited services.  

 dougP

 On Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:09:36 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 If we want to reserve a regular site we are too late to get a good 
 campground with showers. The best ones...Morro Bay and Pismo SP's are 
 booked that weekend. 
 Morro Strand is open but no showers or and few trees for shade.  San 
 Simeon has only the primitive section open ( no showers) .  We could do the 
 hiker/biker sites for the train travelers but that wouldn't work for those 
 that drive there.

 The best of the leftovers to me is Morro Strand SP. Flush toilets, closer 
 to a decent size town, and not to far from the train station in SLO.

 any other ideas?  The Motel 6's ( two of them) are 5 miles south of SLO 
 and charge $106/n. The south one is better BTW. 

 ~mike

 On Saturday, June 8, 2013 1:36:04 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 As I recall, there are a couple of restaurants in San Simeon, but it's 
 not a very big town. Hearst Castle is amazing to visit if you've never 
 been there.  I've camped at San Simeon, Oceano and Morro Bay; as I 
 recall, Morro Bay was the nicest. 

 I also recall once, a long long time ago, riding north from Morro Bay 
 up Big Sur. Beautiful, but very very strong headwinds. That was in the 
 spring; the summer has smaller winds I think. 

 On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote: 
  Looks like we've got an event!  Now, a key driver of location: 
  
  Camping?  Morro Bay SP is adjacent to town with all the attendant 
 services. 
  San Simeon SP is a couple of miles north of San Simeon  several miles 
 north 
  of Cambria.  Oceano Dunes is adjacent to Pismo  Arroyo Grande, about 
 10 
  miles south of SLO.  Area has a mix of lodging as well. 
  
  Lodging?  SLO is a natural, with tons of places.  Cambria is right on 
 the 
  coast BUT you have to snag a decent rate catch a deal well in advance 
 or 
  take your chances on day of.  Moro Bay also has lodging so if it's a 
 mix 
  of campers  lodgers that may be preferable. 
  
  Personally I favor camping within walking distance of a restaurant 
 (not 
  being much of a cook).  What do others prefer? 
  
  dougP 
  
  On Friday, June 7, 2013 11:48:51 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: 
  
  So date seems set. 
  
  July 27-28 For the Rivendell Ramble Rumble (California Edition) 
  
  Now lets agree on a place where we can meet. 
  
  Lets worry about route and places to sleep afterwords. If we can all 
 agree 
  on a central place then those things will fall into place. 
  Not like any of those things are super important.. We can make 
 those 
  things up as we go! 
  
  
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[RBW] Update Re: FS Honjo, Grand Bois bars, 110bcd chainrings, etc

2013-06-09 Thread JL


Grand bois bars have sold
Panaracer ties have sold


New things to add on (prices include conus shipping):

Stainless Steel Sakae Ninja 24t 74bcd ring - $20
Pair of Weinnman 750 centerpull brakes, nutted mount, no shoes  (virtually 
same as dia compe 750 brakes) - $20
105 9s cassette 11-26 - $20
105 92 cassette  12- 26 - $20

email offlist for pics and purchase.  Paypal personal payments please.

 Honjo 700c x 45mm hammered fenders - work with 25 - 32mm tires .  best fit 
 with 28mm 700c.  -$80 (odd size high cost to ship)
 Grand Bois Maes Handlebars 42cm - $60
 NEW Shimano 105/ultegra 50/34t compact chainrings 10s (will work with 
 7/8/9 chains) 110bcd - $40 for set.
 Panaracer Pasela TG 700x35c  tires VGC - $40 pair (good for underbiking) 
 NITTO 46cm classic road bars - $40
 NEW Shimano Brake Levers for road bars - $20
 10cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem VGC - $50
 Assorted used 110bcd chainrings 36 or 38t  - $15
 NEW Vintage Suntour 7speed DT shifters - $20
 Vintage Campagnolo Record 5 speed rear wheel with weinnman concave rim and 
 unmatching front wheel.  27 - $30 (no shipping to big/heavy)

 Thanks
 Jason Leach
 SF, CA



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