[RBW] Blue Rambouillet 650b conversion complete! Rambouilleriot!!

[lum gim fong]

See it here: https://www.flickr.com/gp/70237737@N00/K1b855

I originally had my Rambouillet set up as 700 x 28c. BB height of 26.5cm. 
Still not enough fender clearance for my comfort level.

After converting to 650b x 42mm, the BB height is now 26cm. Same as my 650b 
Bleriot, and I have 170 crankarms on both bikes!! So should be as pedal 
strike free as the Bleriot, I hope. Way more fender clearance now.

Sorry for the bad fenderlines. But the plastic fenders seem to have locked 
themselves into the shape they were in on my old Sam bike. I hope to get 
some Honjos soon, and a VO Rando rack, as the M18 is way too high now. 
I hope to bend the VO tang to my preferred height so it sits right over the 
future Honjo fender.

I used Tektro R559 brakes. The front brake reach is fine with Koolstop 
Dura2 salmon pads.
I used Kool Stop Thinline pads on the rear brake as it needed another mm of 
reach to reach far enough.
Standard rear R559 pads didn't reach all the way on the right rear arm of 
calipers. Just a mm shy or so.

A big shout out to Rod O'Connor (for the frame), and ttoshi, and Leslie 
Bright from this forum for all their pointers on the conversion and 
Rambouillet info in general!

Enjoy the pics!! It rode great as a 700c. I hope to report back with a 650b 
ride report soon.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?

[Soon Chung Lim]

Patrick, did you spec the frame to be 126mm? 
Grant liked to spec at 128 and 132.5 for versatility but a 1999 frame built 
for 126mm is very odd. 


On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:53:04 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Weirdo frames aside, that is. The spacing on my '99 Joe gofast is 126 mm. 
> (And, it will, or should, *just* take the 114mm OL AM hub, per my test, 
> while the 130 OL spaced '03 won't.)
>
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Soon Chung Lim  > wrote:
>
>> Matt B.,
>>
>> I'm pretty sure Rivendell never made a frame with 126mm rear OLD. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Want a San Marcos!

[Ashwath Akirekadu]

Hello folks, 

Long time lurker, first time poster.  Have much enjoyed the discussions and 
pictures here. 

Big fan of Rev bikes.  Have finally decided to build San Marcos.  However, 
I'm having a hard time finding a 51cm size frame.  None of the 
distributors, dealers and stores seem to have one.  Any suggestions where I 
might be able to source one?   Also, anybody here interested in selling 
theirs? Let me know :)  Cheers.  

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[RBW] How to crash by yourself

[Ian A]

I think you'll find the scars won't be noticible. I got hit by a car - tagged 
me from behind and launched me at speed down the road. I had thirty odd 
stitches in my forehead, but was stitched by a plastic surgeon. 

The best thing is to protect the skin from sun exposure and use some healing 
ointment like aloe Vera or the tea tree oil etc. Malalucca do a Tea tree oil 
gel which works fantastically well.  Also, clay works well in the early stages 
of healing and affords sun protection. It does look like you're wearing make-up 
though. 

Hope you get the bike back. Please let us know if you do. 

Ian A/Canada 

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[RBW] Re: RBW Web Site

[dougP]

Works fine on my PC.  Did not require any changes or adjustments to my 
computer. 

dougP

On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 2:45:22 AM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> I still can't open the new web site.  I get a message dated 11/7 telling 
> me it will be back up on  11/8.  Are others experiencing this too?
>
> Michael
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[RBW] FS: (2) Rolly Polly tires-new/mounted

[mikel66...@juno.com]

these cost me $53 each. i will ship both for $100 total

mike goldman
warwick,r.i.

How To Fix Your Fatigue (Do This Every Day)
gundrymd.com
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/582a57354456c57357419st02duc

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[RBW] Road Hunq?

[John G.]

I saw a fellow riding a Hunqapillar on Old River Road north of the George 
Washington Bridge this weekend. He was moving at a decent clip. I pulled up 
alongside him, mentioned I was a fellow Hunqapillar rider, and we got to 
talking. He runs 38mm compass tires on his Hunq, which got me thinking about 
how common this setup is. I have 50mm Schwalbes, but I mostly ride on pavement 
(detritus-strewn, crater-pocked Metro New York pavement).

 Anyone else riding their Hunq mostly on pavement? If so, what tires are you 
running?

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[RBW] FS: Rivendell Romulus 55cm Frame set

[Gabriel Salcedo]

Hi all,
I have a 55cm Rivendell Romulus frame/fork that needs a home. The light blue 
paint and decals are in excellent shape. No dings or dents. Gotta love that 
Romulus headbadge! 
This is the first edition 2003 Romulus made for caliper brakes.

$890 + $65 shipping or free local pickup in Sacramento or SF Bay Area.

Please contact me off list and I can share plenty of quality photos. 
gscicle...@gmail.com

Thank you,

Gabriel Salcedo
Sacramento, California

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[RBW] Woolpower, DeVold, Wabi Woolens?..

[Max S]

As the cold weather (slowly) approaches, I'm thinking of investing in a 
quality wool jersey, hopefully one that's made from a denser, thicker 
fabric, but comfortable without a base layer. These could well be mutually 
exclusive attributes, but maybe there's some new magic out there in the 
wonderful world of wool? Does anyone have first-hand experience with 
Woolpower 

 
or DeVold 

 
that Riv sells? How do they feel compared with, say, Wabi Woolens 
 
(their Winter Weight Jerseys), and are any of them wearable without a base 
layer?

TIA! 

- Max 
(Ann Arbor, MI)

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[RBW] Re: RBW Web Site

[iamkeith]

Website is finally viewable on my phone, as of yesterday.  Didn't do anything 
special to make it so. Who knows why, but time seems to have rectified whatever 
the issue was.  Be patient, i guess.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Suntour Bar-end Shifter Sale

[Michael Ullmer]

All sold!

On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 4:48:25 PM UTC-8, Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
> Cross Post from i-BOB
>
> I have two sets of Suntour bar end shifters for sale:
>
> 1) Classic Suntour Barcons - $40 shipped CONUS. Great shape with all 
> hardware. Scuff marks on the top of one shifter pod.
>
> 2) Suntour Accushift/Power Shifter - $30 shipped CONUS. Great cosmetic 
> shape. The right shifter says Accushift Plus and is indexed for 7 speeds. 
> The left shifter says "Power shifter" and ratchets like a classic suntour 
> shifter.
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/akHqn7DZykkdxkmP8
>
> PM off-list, thanks!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: MUSA Mitts, MUSA shin covers

[Michael Ullmer]

All Sold, thanks!

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[RBW] RBW Web Site

[Hugh Smitham]

I'm away from the homestead at the moment,  accidentally got caught in the 
Canadian customs. Looking for "H St" I should have zigged left but went 
straight. Those Custom agents had fun with me and the missus, wish I took a 
picture but I was explaining why I have a set of finger prints in the 
system...thought about making a break for it with the current state of affairs 
but decided to stick it out. While in the cozy warmth of Canadian hospitality I 
went on the Riv site and though I didn't try to access my account I did find it 
an improvement over the old site especially navigating via smartphone. Can't 
say as much about my driving skills.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Good news, bad news: Rejoining the peloton

[Deacon Patrick]

Please don't apologize, Bruce. I'm still laughing. You were spot on. What I 
though was courteous turned out to be self aggrandizing. Sardonic grin.

With abandon,
Patrick


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>
> Patrick, my apologies if I offended you. I'm better at riding more and 
> posting less :)
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?

[lum gim fong]

What are the shipping costs like?

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?

[Ron Mc]

Grand Bois sells really nice 126mm cassette hubs. 
 http://www.cyclesgrandbois.com/SHOP/gb_lfqr_R120126.html
Compass imports some of these, maybe just the 120mm.  
but shopping at Grand Bois is plenty easy.  You go through their checkout 
and they e-mail you a paypal invoice.  

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 4:41:56 PM UTC-6, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> sounds like you fixed it, but in the future if you need a brand-spanking 
> new 126mm hub (and don't mind using a freewheel), i've used those 
> velo-orange high-flanges on old treks and they're pretty nice (and nice 
> looking). keep a lookout as they occasionally put them on special for some 
> reason. i picked mine up for $35 last year.
>
> and apologies for my bad advice on jamming the 130mm wheelset in 
> there...531 must be significantly more flexible steel. that's what i get 
> for pretending i have any knowledge metallurgy.
>
> eric
>
> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 10:15:56 AM UTC-5, Matt Beecher wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the verification Bill.  I had not measured mine recently, but 
>> a 130mm wheelset definitely does not fit without spreading the stays.  I 
>> thought that I had read the 126mm spacing online, but I cannot find that 
>> now.  
>> I found a 126mm spaced Hyperglide freehub wheelset, so I will use those 
>> with a 7-speed cassette.  
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

[Jim Bronson]

Were you able to fall asleep?

On Nov 14, 2016 18:48, "Metin Uz"  wrote:

> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 3:45:32 PM UTC-8, Matt B. wrote:
>>
>> If we're talking about more than one sitting the longest ride I've been
>> on was a little over 6,000 miles in a solo tour.
>>
>>>
>>>
> Depends on how you define "one sitting". Tours are clearly not a single
> ride. Some people treat a 1200K as a single ride, i.e. no sleep breaks. Of
> course most people get off the saddle even riding a century, at least to
> refill bottles.
>
> As for the original question, I have ridden the Gold Rush Randonnee 1200K
> on my Romulus, albeit with two overnight sleep breaks, not counting my
> attempt at a nap the first afternoon following the night start.
>
> --Metin
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good news, bad news: Rejoining the peloton

[Bruce Smitham]

Patrick, my apologies if I offended you. I'm better at riding more and
posting less :)

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> The bad and good news are the same: I'm back. Grin. Bruce, I'm sorry I
> pilfered your limelight. It was not my intention, but does serve to
> illustrate a small portion of the bad news. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 11:03:35 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Time riding solo is always a gift, and it helps reveal the gifts of
>> riding in a group with greater clarity, as well as where I need to be more
>> disciplined in not participating. So I’ll be experimenting with that and
>> doubtless going back and forth in how much I join in.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> www.OurHolyConception.org
>> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>>
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[RBW] Re: RBW Web Site

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Wow! What a total PITA! I've deleted cookies (at least I think) and I still get 
a 404 not found message when I go to my link for the Riv website. I really love 
Mac in some ways but more and more I am finding things that I simply CAN'T 
STAND! When I get the 404 message I'm still in the Riv site and I can click on 
one of the tabs and view the content. But this is total BS. I googled "deleting 
cookies on Mac" but the instructions cannot be followed because the tabs that 
I'm supposed to click on are not there. Maybe I'll just wait until Trump 
collapses the whole world and we can start using Pony Express again.

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

[Metin Uz]

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 3:45:32 PM UTC-8, Matt B. wrote:
>
> If we're talking about more than one sitting the longest ride I've been on 
> was a little over 6,000 miles in a solo tour.
>
>>
>>
Depends on how you define "one sitting". Tours are clearly not a single 
ride. Some people treat a 1200K as a single ride, i.e. no sleep breaks. Of 
course most people get off the saddle even riding a century, at least to 
refill bottles.

As for the original question, I have ridden the Gold Rush Randonnee 1200K 
on my Romulus, albeit with two overnight sleep breaks, not counting my 
attempt at a nap the first afternoon following the night start.

--Metin
 

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[RBW] Re: Good news, bad news: Rejoining the peloton

[Deacon Patrick]

The bad and good news are the same: I'm back. Grin. Bruce, I'm sorry I 
pilfered your limelight. It was not my intention, but does serve to 
illustrate a small portion of the bad news. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 11:03:35 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Time riding solo is always a gift, and it helps reveal the gifts of riding 
> in a group with greater clarity, as well as where I need to be more 
> disciplined in not participating. So I’ll be experimenting with that and 
> doubtless going back and forth in how much I join in. 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
>
> www.OurHolyConception.org 
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Good news, bad news: Rejoining the peloton

[Steve Palincsar]

not guilty


On 11/14/2016 06:11 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
I suspected it was you who put that flaming bag of dog-doo on my 
doorstep.  Darn 70-something kids!




On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 2:35:23 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:

Plenty enough bad news on your doorstep...


On 11/14/2016 05:19 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
> I was waiting to celebrate the good newsbracing myself for
the bad
> news
>
> Maybe the joke is on me.  Maybe the bad news is that Deacon Patrick
> sardonically lied to me.  The bad news is that there is no bad
news!
>
> with abandon



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[RBW] FS: Small(ish) Surly Pacer 54cm

[Bill Lindsay]

The Other Manny just sold a 50cm Surly Pacer frameset.  I have a 54cm Surly 
Pacer that I would like to sell.  A friend kindly donated this frameset to 
assist me in raising operational funds for the El Cerrito High School 
Mountain Bike Racing Team.  I'm the volunteer team mechanic.  

Here's a photo:  54cm Pacer 


It's easy to find the geometry chart, but let me know if you have any 
questions at all.  You would donate $300 to the ECHS team.  The team 
treasurer would send you a letter with our tax ID so you can write off the 
$300 donation as a tax deduction.  I send you this Surly Pacer frameset for 
free.  That's how it works!  

I've got lots of parts if you want to donate more and end up with something 
more like a complete road bike.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

[Matt B.]

If we're talking about more than one sitting the longest ride I've been on 
was a little over 6,000 miles in a solo tour.

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 4:39:40 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> My Quickbeam has been on a few longish rides:
>
> 2007 PBP (in the rain), set up as a fixed gear (74 inches, as I recall). 
> Finished in 82 1/2 hours
>
> 2006 Big Fix, 1,700 miles from Davis, CA, to Scott City, KS, over the 
> Sierras, Wasatch, and Rockies, riding fixed
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>
> On Nov 14, 2016, at 12:16 PM, Ed Felker  
> wrote:
>
> 1200K, Rambouillet, Boston-Montreal-Boston randonee 2004. Tough ride, 25mm 
> tires didn't do well on New England's pavement.
> 1200K, coupled Bleriot, Paris-Brest-Paris randonnee 2007. Terrific ride on 
> Grand Bois Cypress 32mm tires, even on chipseal. 
>
> Ed Felker
> Washington, DC
>
>
> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> So I typed up this long post to Lum gim fong, and then realized that he 
>> was just asking about Boscos.  Woops
>>
>> I'm going to post it anyway, so I can feel like my effort was justified, 
>> even if it wasn't.
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?

[Matt Beecher]

Thanks for the offer Eric, but I am trying to get away from freewheels and 
moving to cassettes on any bike that I can, except a few very old ones 
where it would not be period correct (50's Criterium, Stella, Peugeot, & 
Hetchins).  

As for "jamming on the 130mm wheelset", there is nothing to apologize for. 
 Live and learn..

I'm still not certain this is a custom.  Ignoring the powdercoat, which was 
done when I had the frame repaired, there is nothing that makes this appear 
custom.  I bet some of the early Rivs were spaced at 126mm.

Cheers,
Matt

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[RBW] FS: New 700c LX/A23 wheelset

[lum gim fong]

Only rode them about 250 miles, so that is why I am calling them "new". 
Fabulous wheelset.

Custom built at Gravel and Grind in Frederick, MD a few months ago.

Sapim Race spokes, double butted. LX hubs/A23 rims. 135 rear hub. 8/9/10 
type shimano type freehub.

An all silver colored wheelset that spins smooth, quiet, and true.

I just want to stay with 650b so I am selling this wheelset. 
And just FYI, Compass 28 and 32mm tires bead seat automatically on these 
upon first inflation.

$400 cash or paypal. I paid 535$, I think. I have receipt if you want to 
see it.
I am in the DC/MD area if anyone local wants to take a peek.
Pics to come later.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Good news, bad news: Rejoining the peloton

[Bill Lindsay]

A little more discipline would be good news for almost all of us.  

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 2:53:48 PM UTC-8, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> He did include some relatively bad news.  It was in the limitation of his 
> participation as mentioned with these words:
>
> >  I need to be more disciplined in not participating
>
> However, since the bad news was an improvement on him not being here at 
> all, it didn't seem so bad.  It seemed good.  Even if not at the prior 
> levels, any Patrick is better than no Patrick.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Bill Lindsay  > wrote:
>
>> I was waiting to celebrate the good newsbracing myself for the bad 
>> news
>>
>> Maybe the joke is on me.  Maybe the bad news is that Deacon Patrick 
>> sardonically lied to me.  The bad news is that there is no bad news!
>>
>> with abandon
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 10:03:35 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> Time riding solo is always a gift, and it helps reveal the gifts of 
>>> riding in a group with greater clarity, as well as where I need to be more 
>>> disciplined in not participating. So I’ll be experimenting with that and 
>>> doubtless going back and forth in how much I join in. 
>>>
>>> With abandon, 
>>> Patrick 
>>>
>>> www.OurHolyConception.org 
>>> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good news, bad news: Rejoining the peloton

[Bruce Smitham]

Come and go as you please but why advertise it unless you want the 
attention?

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 2:53:48 PM UTC-8, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> He did include some relatively bad news.  It was in the limitation of his 
> participation as mentioned with these words:
>
> >  I need to be more disciplined in not participating
>
> However, since the bad news was an improvement on him not being here at 
> all, it didn't seem so bad.  It seemed good.  Even if not at the prior 
> levels, any Patrick is better than no Patrick.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Bill Lindsay  > wrote:
>
>> I was waiting to celebrate the good newsbracing myself for the bad 
>> news
>>
>> Maybe the joke is on me.  Maybe the bad news is that Deacon Patrick 
>> sardonically lied to me.  The bad news is that there is no bad news!
>>
>> with abandon
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 10:03:35 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> Time riding solo is always a gift, and it helps reveal the gifts of 
>>> riding in a group with greater clarity, as well as where I need to be more 
>>> disciplined in not participating. So I’ll be experimenting with that and 
>>> doubtless going back and forth in how much I join in. 
>>>
>>> With abandon, 
>>> Patrick 
>>>
>>> www.OurHolyConception.org 
>>> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good news, bad news: Rejoining the peloton

[Bill Lindsay]

I suspected it was you who put that flaming bag of dog-doo on my doorstep. 
 Darn 70-something kids!  



On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 2:35:23 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> Plenty enough bad news on your doorstep... 
>
>
> On 11/14/2016 05:19 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: 
> > I was waiting to celebrate the good newsbracing myself for the bad 
> > news 
> > 
> > Maybe the joke is on me.  Maybe the bad news is that Deacon Patrick 
> > sardonically lied to me.  The bad news is that there is no bad news! 
> > 
> > with abandon 
> > 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good news, bad news: Rejoining the peloton

[Tim Butterfield]

Bill,

He did include some relatively bad news.  It was in the limitation of his
participation as mentioned with these words:

>  I need to be more disciplined in not participating

However, since the bad news was an improvement on him not being here at
all, it didn't seem so bad.  It seemed good.  Even if not at the prior
levels, any Patrick is better than no Patrick.

Cheers.

Tim


On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> I was waiting to celebrate the good newsbracing myself for the bad
> news
>
> Maybe the joke is on me.  Maybe the bad news is that Deacon Patrick
> sardonically lied to me.  The bad news is that there is no bad news!
>
> with abandon
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
> On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 10:03:35 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Time riding solo is always a gift, and it helps reveal the gifts of
>> riding in a group with greater clarity, as well as where I need to be more
>> disciplined in not participating. So I’ll be experimenting with that and
>> doubtless going back and forth in how much I join in.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> www.OurHolyConception.org
>> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>>
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?

[Eric Karnes]

sounds like you fixed it, but in the future if you need a brand-spanking 
new 126mm hub (and don't mind using a freewheel), i've used those 
velo-orange high-flanges on old treks and they're pretty nice (and nice 
looking). keep a lookout as they occasionally put them on special for some 
reason. i picked mine up for $35 last year.

and apologies for my bad advice on jamming the 130mm wheelset in 
there...531 must be significantly more flexible steel. that's what i get 
for pretending i have any knowledge metallurgy.

eric

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 10:15:56 AM UTC-5, Matt Beecher wrote:
>
> Thanks for the verification Bill.  I had not measured mine recently, but a 
> 130mm wheelset definitely does not fit without spreading the stays.  I 
> thought that I had read the 126mm spacing online, but I cannot find that 
> now.  
> I found a 126mm spaced Hyperglide freehub wheelset, so I will use those 
> with a 7-speed cassette.  
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good news, bad news: Rejoining the peloton

[Steve Palincsar]

Plenty enough bad news on your doorstep...


On 11/14/2016 05:19 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
I was waiting to celebrate the good newsbracing myself for the bad 
news


Maybe the joke is on me.  Maybe the bad news is that Deacon Patrick 
sardonically lied to me.  The bad news is that there is no bad news!


with abandon



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[RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

[El Sapo]

I was looking for somewhere to crow about the 40+ mile ride I completed 
> Friday on my Clem. WoooHooo.
>

The conditions were perfect. it's usually a 16 or an 11 mile ride for me 
when I go out depending on the wind. Decided early that I was going for 40 
and unfortunately bragged about it about 8 miles into the 
ride. That motivated me to finish. 

It's not the distance for me it's finding the time to do it.  

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[RBW] Re: Good news, bad news: Rejoining the peloton

[Bill Lindsay]

I was waiting to celebrate the good newsbracing myself for the bad 
news

Maybe the joke is on me.  Maybe the bad news is that Deacon Patrick 
sardonically lied to me.  The bad news is that there is no bad news!

with abandon

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 10:03:35 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Time riding solo is always a gift, and it helps reveal the gifts of riding 
> in a group with greater clarity, as well as where I need to be more 
> disciplined in not participating. So I’ll be experimenting with that and 
> doubtless going back and forth in how much I join in. 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
>
> www.OurHolyConception.org 
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Found rings and guard; now: Seeking 127-128 mm square taper bb assembly.

[Garth]

  Sent you a PM .

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 3:29:53 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Garth: If you can ship soon, let's do it. How much? Paypal? Address?
>
> Thanks. Patrick
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Garth  
> wrote:
>
>>
>>  Patrick, I have a barely used UN-72 127mm that I could sell to you.  
>> Prolly 200 miles if that and clean. What's nice about these is the non ds 
>> cup has no lip on it like the UN-54/55 series, thus the chainline is 
>> adjustable up to a couple mm's.   The current Tange models are also 
>> lip-less/adjustable , there are 3 models currently, LN-3912, LN-3922 (both 
>> are all steel), and the LN-7922(AL cups). 
>>
>> However, I see the 3912 is only $10.90 shipped from Bikesmith's on Ebay 
>> though, and considering it costs us almost $6 for a Priority mail box these 
>> days I'd say get that. I think this is the BB Riv includes on the Clem.  
>> The LN-3922 is also sold by them for $29.90.  I have ordered from them 
>> before so yes they are reliable. 
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/Bottom-Brackets/177805/m.html?item=291828370215=item43f2538b27%3Am%3Amkd0d12WukUInxyoYRyZq3Q=&_ssn=the_bikesmiths&_dcat=177805%2520Interface%2520Type=Square%2520Taper%2520JIS&_sop=15
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

[Eric Norris]

My Quickbeam has been on a few longish rides:

2007 PBP (in the rain), set up as a fixed gear (74 inches, as I recall). 
Finished in 82 1/2 hours

2006 Big Fix, 1,700 miles from Davis, CA, to Scott City, KS, over the Sierras, 
Wasatch, and Rockies, riding fixed

--Eric Norris
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> On Nov 14, 2016, at 12:16 PM, Ed Felker  wrote:
> 
> 1200K, Rambouillet, Boston-Montreal-Boston randonee 2004. Tough ride, 25mm 
> tires didn't do well on New England's pavement.
> 1200K, coupled Bleriot, Paris-Brest-Paris randonnee 2007. Terrific ride on 
> Grand Bois Cypress 32mm tires, even on chipseal. 
> 
> Ed Felker
> Washington, DC
> 
> 
> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
> So I typed up this long post to Lum gim fong, and then realized that he was 
> just asking about Boscos.  Woops
> 
> I'm going to post it anyway, so I can feel like my effort was justified, even 
> if it wasn't.
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

[R. Alexis]

Yes, I am still here. You probably remember me from the back and forth on 
my Rivendell Mountain and some of the possible changes in the build I was 
requesting or from sending you a box of Shimano down tube shifters. Still 
keeping up on things. Look forward to the final product that is the 
referenced Silver V.2 shifter.

Reginald "Frictiion Shifting Vet" Alexis

On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 7:20:05 PM UTC-6, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>
> Reginald! You're still around! I associate you with my garage and holding 
> my then toddler old Anna like a football when trying to work...that was 
> your era. Thanks for hanging in!
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 1:37 PM, R. Alexis  > wrote:
>
>> Those shifters look nice. Look forward to seeing how the final product 
>> will look. I will definitely get a couple sets. I would get the current 
>> Silver V.1 shifters, but It has just been within the last couple years that 
>> I mounted the Suntour Sprint, shifters on my Schwinn Voyageur so I don't 
>> see a need at the moment to stock up. I got those way back just before 
>> Rivendell got some and started offering them when I worked at a local bike 
>> shop. I have been mulling over the idea of rebuilding my Rivendell Mountain 
>> with a set of S.O.S. (Silver on Soma) thumb shifters along with Phil Wood 
>> Rivy hubs etc, but I a hesitant to redo the Suntour XC-Pro, Wilderness 
>> Trail Bikes build on it already. May be a new Rivendell build out is in 
>> order. 
>>
>> Reginald Alexis
>>
>> On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 1:08:31 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> The BLUG has a long write up and description of the Silver 2 shifters.  
>>> One big take home is the Silver 1 shifter mold is shot, so those will be 
>>> going away.  So, if you love Silver shifters, stock up now.  The Silver 2 
>>> looks like it'll be a way better thumb shifter, a somewhat better barcon 
>>> shifter, and an amusingly ironic downtube shifter.  Most importantly (to 
>>> me), is that if you want to embolden Rivendell Bicycle Works to keep 
>>> putting their money where their brains are, then reward them by buying a 
>>> pair or two of Silver 2's and put them into your personal inventory.  When 
>>> the need arises, get them from your stock.  If Riv gets a lot of early 
>>> adopters buying them, then they'll have the confidence and the money to 
>>> make the next part that you can't get anywhere else.  Grant tells you on 
>>> the BLUG how to get on an email list for updates on the Silver 2.  
>>>
>>> Bill habitual-early-adopter Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

[Clayton.sf]

Have done 2 300k on my quickbeam. Those were the longest in one sitting.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

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Re: [RBW] Clem RD Chain Tension

[Joe Bernard]

I would add the length back with a second Quick Link and put the old RD back 
on. I've been through that whole process of using shorty derailers and trying 
to avoid certain gear combos, and it's fer the boids I tell ya. I'd rather 
shift whatever combo is available, and carry an extra link in a saddlebag to 
assuage my probably unnecessary concern for failed Quick Links. 

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[RBW] Re: Good news, bad news: Rejoining the peloton

[Ryan Fleming]

Great...always enjoy your posts and wonderful photography of Colorado

On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 12:03:35 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Time riding solo is always a gift, and it helps reveal the gifts of riding 
> in a group with greater clarity, as well as where I need to be more 
> disciplined in not participating. So I’ll be experimenting with that and 
> doubtless going back and forth in how much I join in. 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

[Ryan Fleming]

OK...100km once on my allrounder and a couple of  85 km outings;  similar 
longish miles on my road. 85 km is my max comfortable distance right 
now...but when I retire, maybe that will increase

I'm impressed by all you mega-milers...intellectually the brevets appeal 
but not sure I could handle any above populaire distance 

in the mid to late eighties I was good for 7ish hour centuries including 
breaks and could tour with camping gear for a week at the time in 
relatively flat but windy Manitoba

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 2:34:09 PM UTC-6, ttoshi wrote:
>
> 600k on my Homer 38mm Parimoto tires (no flats, despite everyone going 
> down around me!)
>
> 2x600k on my 650b Ram (42 mm Hetres 1 piece of glass-2 flats--missed a 
> pesky glass shard after first flat, but found it the second go)
>
> Hopefully PBP 2019 on a custom 650b Riv!  Going with connectorless SON hub 
> and internal wiring for a rear dyno light.  My 54 cm Rambouillet frame is 
> on sale--anyone looking?
>
> Toshi
>
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?

[Joe Bernard]

Ah, I was basing my thoughts on the title Rivendell Road Standard, which was a 
model of early production Rivs. But it sounds like you've solved the issue for 
your custom, so all is well. 

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?

[Matt Beecher]

I just measured and it is 126mm.  FWIW, I was looking back at the RBW link 
that caught my eye and led me to buy it.  Apparently, it might have been a 
custom.  

https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest_medium=email#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/road$20standard%7Csort:date/rbw-owners-bunch/ZIJor1UYo6Q/TtOmpwLlqlUJ

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 2:34:16 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Yeah, I'm curious about that, too..126 OLD was a dead spec by 1994. I'll 
> be very surprised if any Waterford Riv was built with it. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

600k on my Homer 38mm Parimoto tires (no flats, despite everyone going down
around me!)

2x600k on my 650b Ram (42 mm Hetres 1 piece of glass-2 flats--missed a
pesky glass shard after first flat, but found it the second go)

Hopefully PBP 2019 on a custom 650b Riv!  Going with connectorless SON hub
and internal wiring for a rear dyno light.  My 54 cm Rambouillet frame is
on sale--anyone looking?

Toshi

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[RBW] 11/13 BLUG (re: a-fib)

[dougP]

This may have been posted before but it's worth a re-read:

http://velonews.competitor.com/cycling-extremes

A bit long & detailed but the best discussion of a-fib & v-tac that I've 
seen outside of medical publications.  I'm NOT a medical person, just a 
customer & recipient of some of this incredible technology.  Long story 
short, I dodged some bullets without knowing I was being shot at.  

One of the key points about these conditions is they can strike without 
warning, often with little or no pain.  Classic heart attack symptoms such 
as shooting pain down the arm, chest pain, etc., probably won't happen.  
You just feel a bit dizzy, light headed and short of breath.

Another problem is a regular old EKG may not detect a-fib.  You need to be 
aware & push the issue with your Dr to get more sensitive tests.  
Cardiologists are reluctant to go fishing; they prefer to be handed the 
pole with the fish on the line.  Problem is you are the fish, gasping for 
air.

The big takeaway is that exercise has its place in heart health BUT there 
can be too much of a good thing.  The big problem is knowing where that is 
for each individual.  Many of us feel "it won't happen to me", but then 
cyclists don't expect to get hit by cars, surfers don't expect to get hit 
by sharks, golfers & lightening, etc.  

If you've been doing serious exercise / training for a few decades, give 
Grant's post a thought & read the Velo article completely.  Good stuff to 
know.

Doug Peterson  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Found rings and guard; now: Seeking 127-128 mm square taper bb assembly.

[Patrick Moore]

Garth: If you can ship soon, let's do it. How much? Paypal? Address?

Thanks. Patrick

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Garth  wrote:

>
>  Patrick, I have a barely used UN-72 127mm that I could sell to you.
> Prolly 200 miles if that and clean. What's nice about these is the non ds
> cup has no lip on it like the UN-54/55 series, thus the chainline is
> adjustable up to a couple mm's.   The current Tange models are also
> lip-less/adjustable , there are 3 models currently, LN-3912, LN-3922 (both
> are all steel), and the LN-7922(AL cups).
>
> However, I see the 3912 is only $10.90 shipped from Bikesmith's on Ebay
> though, and considering it costs us almost $6 for a Priority mail box these
> days I'd say get that. I think this is the BB Riv includes on the Clem.
> The LN-3922 is also sold by them for $29.90.  I have ordered from them
> before so yes they are reliable.
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/Bottom-Brackets/177805/m.html?
> item=291828370215=item43f2538b27%3Am%3Amkd0d12WukUInxyoYRyZq3Q=
> &_ssn=the_bikesmiths&_dcat=177805%2520Interface%
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[RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

[Ed Felker]

1200K, Rambouillet, Boston-Montreal-Boston randonee 2004. Tough ride, 25mm 
tires didn't do well on New England's pavement.
1200K, coupled Bleriot, Paris-Brest-Paris randonnee 2007. Terrific ride on 
Grand Bois Cypress 32mm tires, even on chipseal. 

Ed Felker
Washington, DC


On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> So I typed up this long post to Lum gim fong, and then realized that he 
> was just asking about Boscos.  Woops
>
> I'm going to post it anyway, so I can feel like my effort was justified, 
> even if it wasn't.
>
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Re: [RBW] How to crash by yourself

[Ryan Fleming]

What Eamon said.  Brian, it also may be worthwhile to check Craigslist or 
Kedjiji to see if your bike shows up. Issue may be that bike appeared to be 
"found" not stolen so not a crime per se,unfortunately. Good luck, though; 
I hope your bike shows up

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:22:39 AM UTC-6, Eamon Nordquist wrote:
>
> Sorry to hear about your crash, hope you heal quickly.
> It may be a longshot, but I think it could be worth putting up a sign at 
> the crash site. Someone may have simply picked up the bike because it 
> appeared abandoned. A sign saying "missing bike" in big letters, along with 
> a simple description and contact info (+ small reward?) might get noticed. 
> I say this because a friend found a nice racing bike apparently abandoned 
> near her house. She took it from there just so it wouldn't get stolen. In 
> her case, she left a sign saying all of that. Worth a try, maybe.
>
> Eamon
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[RBW] Re: Found rings and guard; now: Seeking 127-128 mm square taper bb assembly.

[Garth]

 Patrick, I have a barely used UN-72 127mm that I could sell to you.  
Prolly 200 miles if that and clean. What's nice about these is the non ds 
cup has no lip on it like the UN-54/55 series, thus the chainline is 
adjustable up to a couple mm's.   The current Tange models are also 
lip-less/adjustable , there are 3 models currently, LN-3912, LN-3922 (both 
are all steel), and the LN-7922(AL cups). 

However, I see the 3912 is only $10.90 shipped from Bikesmith's on Ebay 
though, and considering it costs us almost $6 for a Priority mail box these 
days I'd say get that. I think this is the BB Riv includes on the Clem.  
The LN-3922 is also sold by them for $29.90.  I have ordered from them 
before so yes they are reliable. 
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Bottom-Brackets/177805/m.html?item=291828370215=item43f2538b27%3Am%3Amkd0d12WukUInxyoYRyZq3Q=&_ssn=the_bikesmiths&_dcat=177805%2520Interface%2520Type=Square%2520Taper%2520JIS&_sop=15


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: GB Aravis Saddle, Compass Barlow Pass Tires, Schwalbe Furious Fred Tires, Brooks B17 Black, Nitto F15, Silver Hupe

[Tim Gavin]

I hung several bikes vertically in my garage, using similar J-hooks.  They
work, but I can see why other hooks are better-designed for vertical
mounting.
These simple J-hooks rotate easily, which means I often have to re-adjust
them before hanging a bike.  These simple J-hooks work great for hanging a
bike upside down from the rafters, but they're not ideal for hanging a bike
vertically (but they do work).

Whereas, a hook mounted on a plate that can't rotate works even better for
hanging a bike vertically on the wall.  Here's one for less than $5.

 When the J-hooks I used start to strip their holes in the studs, I'll
probably replace them with similar plate-mounted hooks.


The rear wall of my garage is semi-finished (bare sheetrock), so I put a
strip of adhesive vinyl tape down the wall where the bike tires make
contact.


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> - thanks
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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa in Grey?

[William R.]

Hey Mike. I remember reading this blug that you link too. Haven't heard 
anything else about this second batch of Appaloosa's. I'm not that 
concerned since I already have my mustard/butternut 58 (absolutely loving 
it btw). That grey will be a beautiful thing to behold though. September 
sure has come and gone. Don't know, maybe they rejiggered things with the 
supplier, or the shipment is being held up in port. We are due for some 
kind of state of up coming models blug, I'm sure we will find out not too 
long after they do.

Bill in Westchester, NY

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Re: [RBW] FS: 55cm Butternut Appaloosa

[Belopsky]

Nice!

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[RBW] Re: High Riding Handlebar Bag

[Takashi]

That's a clever mounting system Jon.

I have made mounting hardware that attaches to headset.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/24742791043/
(See comments about mounting hardware)

As I wrote in comments to the photo, bolts tend to loosen.
I am thinking about using Surly's hardware to attach bag to the front rack.
http://surlybikes.com/parts/cargo/rear_rack_upper_kit

Takashi

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Re: [RBW] Clem RD Chain Tension

[Steve Palincsar]

On 11/14/2016 12:43 PM, Jonathan Anderson wrote:
Thanks all for the input.  I'm using a double up front (stock Silver 
38/24). Agree, if I could do it over, I would have left an additional 
link so it drooped in small, small, but was closer to 45deg. in 
big/big.  It's not dramatically past 45, which is why I decided to 
defer to the wisdom of the crowd to determine if I could safely ride 
as is.  Sounds like it should be ok, but a bit of additional slack 
would be optimal.  I'll probably keep as is for a few more rides to 
better assess how often I find myself in this gear.


Jon, for your chain splicing, did you attached with pin (pushing pin 
back in)? I'm considering just adding back in one of the links I 
removed, but worry it might actually be less safe due to weakened 
connection/possible chain break.




Back in the day, this was the conventional and only way to remove and 
replace chains.  It's still considered OK thru 9 speed chains for the 
most part, but once you get to 10 and beyond it's no longer recommended 
at all.  For Shimano chains, back in 7 speed days they went to a 
replacement pin with a pointy nose, a bit like a metal suppository, and 
once you drove the in in you'd break off the tail. SRAM and others went 
to quick links.


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[RBW] Re: FS: GB Aravis Saddle, Compass Barlow Pass Tires, Schwalbe Furious Fred Tires, Brooks B17 Black, Nitto F15, Silver Hupe

[David Banzer]

Barlow Pass tires are sold.

The hooks were actually in the garage when I bought the house, just moved 
them around to use for bikes. They're just simple hooks like these: 
https://www.amazon.com/Diamondback-Bicycle-Storage-Hooks-Black/dp/B00MJYPX2U/ref=pd_lpo_468_lp_tr_t_3?_encoding=UTF8=1=WFARMYX3Z1QFYV8Y0VH1


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> What hooks are you using to hang the bikes? I need to do something similar 
> - thanks
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Re: [RBW] Clem RD Chain Tension

[Jon BALER]

I just used two quick links about 5" apart.   I was a little concerned, but 
think it should be fine.  I have been using 10 speed quick links for years 
without an issue. 

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 12:43:29 PM UTC-5, Jonathan Anderson wrote:
>
> Thanks all for the input.  I'm using a double up front (stock Silver 
> 38/24). Agree, if I could do it over, I would have left an additional link 
> so it drooped in small, small, but was closer to 45deg. in big/big.  It's 
> not dramatically past 45, which is why I decided to defer to the wisdom of 
> the crowd to determine if I could safely ride as is.  Sounds like it should 
> be ok, but a bit of additional slack would be optimal.  I'll probably keep 
> as is for a few more rides to better assess how often I find myself in this 
> gear. 
>
> Jon, for your chain splicing, did you attached with pin (pushing pin back 
> in)? I'm considering just adding back in one of the links I removed, but 
> worry it might actually be less safe due to weakened connection/possible 
> chain break.  
>
> Thanks again.
>
> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 12:33:18 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Your rd obviously doesn't have the takeup required for the range 
>> involved. That said, do you use the small/small? You don't say if your 
>> crankset is a triple, but I assume it is. If it is, you don't use the small 
>> small; you use the small ring onlly with the 3 or 4 largest cogs, where, 
>> very likely, the derailleur will tension the chain adequately.
>>
>> In the event, I've perversely installed short cage (and 8 speed, at that) 
>> road derailleurs on mountain bikes, and simply let the chain dangle in the 
>> granny + 2-4 smallest rings. I never used these combos, so any problem was 
>> solely academic.
>>
>> Of course, you could always put the other rd back on ...
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Jonathan Anderson  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there, my wife and four month old son were away this weekend so I had 
>>> little choice but to tinker with the Clem.  This tinkering amounted to 
>>> installing an old RD that I had in my parts bucket from an old MTB. 
>>> Straightforward enough, right? Sort of. Upon rerouting the chain, I noticed 
>>> that I had considerable slack ('droop') in small/small. **Without checking 
>>> big/big, I promptly removed a link and reattached the KMC quick link. Still 
>>> droopy. Removed another link. Passable. Happy. 
>>>
>>> But on my ride yesterday afternoon I noticed some noise when shifting to 
>>> big/big to get up a small hill. 'Cross-chaining.'  I know, but it was a 
>>> small hill and it's more practical to shift 'down' a couple to get over it 
>>> vs. having to shift down in the front and up in the back... Following?  
>>> Anyway, I heard the noise and made a note to check when I returned. I 
>>> believe the sound, which is not overly pronounced, but audible is due to 
>>> the RD being pulled pretty far out and adding additional tension to the 
>>> chain (photo below).  
>>>
>>> Q (finally...), is this too much tension?  It's a GS RD, so it's rated 
>>> for 33T capacity vs. the 37 on the Clem. Should be fine? In retrospect, I 
>>> should have left one additional link on the chain as I never ride 
>>> small/small. But I didn't think that far ahead. Question is whether I can 
>>> get away with it the way it is. If not, I have no idea where to find a 
>>> chain long enough to fit the clem stays 
>>>
>>> Appreciate your thoughts. 
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Re: [RBW] FS: 55cm Butternut Appaloosa

[Bill Lindsay]

Yes, Tom, you are off the hook.  

Payment received.  Appaloosa is sold.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 8:42:49 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:
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> Thank goodness. 
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Re: [RBW] Clem RD Chain Tension

[Jonathan Anderson]

Thanks all for the input.  I'm using a double up front (stock Silver 
38/24). Agree, if I could do it over, I would have left an additional link 
so it drooped in small, small, but was closer to 45deg. in big/big.  It's 
not dramatically past 45, which is why I decided to defer to the wisdom of 
the crowd to determine if I could safely ride as is.  Sounds like it should 
be ok, but a bit of additional slack would be optimal.  I'll probably keep 
as is for a few more rides to better assess how often I find myself in this 
gear. 

Jon, for your chain splicing, did you attached with pin (pushing pin back 
in)? I'm considering just adding back in one of the links I removed, but 
worry it might actually be less safe due to weakened connection/possible 
chain break.  

Thanks again.

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 12:33:18 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Your rd obviously doesn't have the takeup required for the range involved. 
> That said, do you use the small/small? You don't say if your crankset is a 
> triple, but I assume it is. If it is, you don't use the small small; you 
> use the small ring onlly with the 3 or 4 largest cogs, where, very likely, 
> the derailleur will tension the chain adequately.
>
> In the event, I've perversely installed short cage (and 8 speed, at that) 
> road derailleurs on mountain bikes, and simply let the chain dangle in the 
> granny + 2-4 smallest rings. I never used these combos, so any problem was 
> solely academic.
>
> Of course, you could always put the other rd back on ...
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Jonathan Anderson  > wrote:
>
>> Hi there, my wife and four month old son were away this weekend so I had 
>> little choice but to tinker with the Clem.  This tinkering amounted to 
>> installing an old RD that I had in my parts bucket from an old MTB. 
>> Straightforward enough, right? Sort of. Upon rerouting the chain, I noticed 
>> that I had considerable slack ('droop') in small/small. **Without checking 
>> big/big, I promptly removed a link and reattached the KMC quick link. Still 
>> droopy. Removed another link. Passable. Happy. 
>>
>> But on my ride yesterday afternoon I noticed some noise when shifting to 
>> big/big to get up a small hill. 'Cross-chaining.'  I know, but it was a 
>> small hill and it's more practical to shift 'down' a couple to get over it 
>> vs. having to shift down in the front and up in the back... Following?  
>> Anyway, I heard the noise and made a note to check when I returned. I 
>> believe the sound, which is not overly pronounced, but audible is due to 
>> the RD being pulled pretty far out and adding additional tension to the 
>> chain (photo below).  
>>
>> Q (finally...), is this too much tension?  It's a GS RD, so it's rated 
>> for 33T capacity vs. the 37 on the Clem. Should be fine? In retrospect, I 
>> should have left one additional link on the chain as I never ride 
>> small/small. But I didn't think that far ahead. Question is whether I can 
>> get away with it the way it is. If not, I have no idea where to find a 
>> chain long enough to fit the clem stays 
>>
>> Appreciate your thoughts. 
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: High Riding Handlebar Bag

[Jon BALER]

I came up with my own decaleur mounting, and you could attach your klick 
fix mount in a similar way.   I used an old pump mount and Minoura 
Accessory Holder with Angle Adjustable LW-Clamp.  You could move the mount 
from the stem to a lower bar position, by just using the Minoura clamp.  
They make some other versions that clamps to the bars or steerer.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jon_baler/26298401703/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jon_baler/26629617470

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 9:33:20 AM UTC-5, Bill in Roswell GA wrote:
>
>
> That particular Klick Fix system (and similar systems) does jack the bag 
> up high. 
>
> Klick Fix does sell another system that allows the bag to sit a bit lower. 
> The systems uses a bent steel rod that clicks into the bar-mounted holder. 
> The bars slide into sleeves on each side of the bag near the top. 
>
> Swift Industries makes such a bag 
> http://builtbyswift.com/shop/custom-paloma-handlebar-bag/
> And the http://builtbyswift.com/shop/kitsap-paloma/  Scroll to bottom of 
> page to see one in use. 
>
> Seems like I came across another company that uses the same system, but I 
> don't recall the name.
>
> Cheers,
> Bill in Roswell, GA
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Re: [RBW] How to crash by yourself

[RichS]

Brian and Ron - Glad you're both okay. Best wishes for a full recovery with 
no long term ill effects.

Take care,
Richard



On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 12:22:39 PM UTC-5, Eamon Nordquist wrote:
>
> Sorry to hear about your crash, hope you heal quickly.
> It may be a longshot, but I think it could be worth putting up a sign at 
> the crash site. Someone may have simply picked up the bike because it 
> appeared abandoned. A sign saying "missing bike" in big letters, along with 
> a simple description and contact info (+ small reward?) might get noticed. 
> I say this because a friend found a nice racing bike apparently abandoned 
> near her house. She took it from there just so it wouldn't get stolen. In 
> her case, she left a sign saying all of that. Worth a try, maybe.
>
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Re: [RBW] Clem RD Chain Tension

[Patrick Moore]

Your rd obviously doesn't have the takeup required for the range involved.
That said, do you use the small/small? You don't say if your crankset is a
triple, but I assume it is. If it is, you don't use the small small; you
use the small ring onlly with the 3 or 4 largest cogs, where, very likely,
the derailleur will tension the chain adequately.

In the event, I've perversely installed short cage (and 8 speed, at that)
road derailleurs on mountain bikes, and simply let the chain dangle in the
granny + 2-4 smallest rings. I never used these combos, so any problem was
solely academic.

Of course, you could always put the other rd back on ...

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Jonathan Anderson 
wrote:

> Hi there, my wife and four month old son were away this weekend so I had
> little choice but to tinker with the Clem.  This tinkering amounted to
> installing an old RD that I had in my parts bucket from an old MTB.
> Straightforward enough, right? Sort of. Upon rerouting the chain, I noticed
> that I had considerable slack ('droop') in small/small. **Without checking
> big/big, I promptly removed a link and reattached the KMC quick link. Still
> droopy. Removed another link. Passable. Happy.
>
> But on my ride yesterday afternoon I noticed some noise when shifting to
> big/big to get up a small hill. 'Cross-chaining.'  I know, but it was a
> small hill and it's more practical to shift 'down' a couple to get over it
> vs. having to shift down in the front and up in the back... Following?
> Anyway, I heard the noise and made a note to check when I returned. I
> believe the sound, which is not overly pronounced, but audible is due to
> the RD being pulled pretty far out and adding additional tension to the
> chain (photo below).
>
> Q (finally...), is this too much tension?  It's a GS RD, so it's rated for
> 33T capacity vs. the 37 on the Clem. Should be fine? In retrospect, I
> should have left one additional link on the chain as I never ride
> small/small. But I didn't think that far ahead. Question is whether I can
> get away with it the way it is. If not, I have no idea where to find a
> chain long enough to fit the clem stays
>
> Appreciate your thoughts.
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem RD Chain Tension

[Jon BALER]

I used a medium cage XT (clutch) shifter on my Rosco build, and it has been 
fine so far.   11x34 in the rear, and 50/34 up front.   The only issue is 
the new KMC chain wasn't long enough, so I had to splice in a few more 
links.

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:45:25 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> A few years ago on a club Metric Century the guy I was riding with dropped 
> his chain and in the process managed to twist a link.  As a result the bike 
> was constantly upshifting then immediately downshifting.  Finally we 
> stopped, took out a chain tool and removed the bent link.  I told him that 
> would be fine as long as he remembered not to use the big-big combination.  
> The route happens to end on two hills.  On the final hill, he forgot and 
> accidentally shifted into the big-big.  Derailleur jammed in that position 
> and wouldn't shift down.  It took us a half hour by the side of the road to 
> get it so he could finish the ride.
>
> As for quick links - the ones I use, that come with SRAM chains, work 
> fine.  I've been using them for many years now.
>
> On 11/14/2016 11:32 AM, ian m wrote:
>
> Do you risk it ripping off if you use big/big from time to time? 
> -If by it you mean the derailer, it's doubtful. As long as the derailer is 
> still providing some tension, meaning the chain is not so short it is 
> pulling the derailer up, and shifts into and out of the largest cog, you 
> should have no problem. My Altus derailer looks the same on my Clem. I also 
> used two chains (really only like 5 links from a second chain) with only 
> one quick link as I hate those with a passion. I would rather break the 
> chain with a tool and reattach it that way then try to get those quick 
> links to work.
>
> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 10:46:09 AM UTC-5, Jonathan Anderson 
> wrote: 
>>
>> Thanks, Bill.  I noticed that you've posted in the past about running a 
>> GS XT with success. You noted 'stocking up' on them as you liked them so 
>> much (don't recall model).  The chain will wrap big/big without the RD 
>> (likely a couple links overlap, at least).  Even in the pic you can see 
>> there is a reasonable amount of chain retained in the cage... It's not 
>> ideal, but it does run through it. Do I risk it ripping off if I use 
>> big/big from time to time?  It looks perfect in big/small (perpendicular, 
>> if not offset to rear).  Agree long cage it optimal solution, but will 
>> require more chain...  
>>
>> Re: chain, if I buy two, should I use two quick links to attach them to 
>> each other? Otherwise, wouldn't I have to secure one of the two ends by 
>> pushing back in a broken rivet? I saved the links I removed, but had been 
>> led to believe reinstalling was not advisable.  
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Found rings and guard; now: Seeking 127-128 mm square taper bb assembly.

[Patrick Moore]

Alack and alas: I just thought to check Compass, and their longest is ---
126 mm. Since 127 is cutting it so fine, I just can't take the chance. Damn!


On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Someone offered me a very nice Phil, but it turns out to be a Ti model and
> thus costs more than I should spend at this point.
>
> I am looking for a good quality one, preferably a rebuildable one
> (rebuildable by me or rebuildable by the maker) instead of a disposable
> one.
>
> A SunTour grease guard model would be very nice! So would a used, steel,
> and cheaper Phil. Even a high end cup and cone would be acceptable, though
> I'd prefer something relatively well sealed.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Found rings and guard; now: Seeking 127-128 mm square taper bb assembly.

[Patrick Moore]

That's apparently what the Apex's bb is, but as I said, if I could find a
ST GG, I'd be happier.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Tim Gavin 
wrote:

> The ubiquitous Shimano UN-55 is available in 127 mm.  Does that not work
> for you?
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> I forgot to add: I'll also be interested to hear of reputable online
>> sources for 127-128 mm square taper bbs. Does anyone know of any such?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Patrick Moore 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Someone offered me a very nice Phil, but it turns out to be a Ti model
>>> and thus costs more than I should spend at this point.
>>>
>>> I am looking for a good quality one, preferably a rebuildable one
>>> (rebuildable by me or rebuildable by the maker) instead of a disposable
>>> one.
>>>
>>> A SunTour grease guard model would be very nice! So would a used, steel,
>>> and cheaper Phil. Even a high end cup and cone would be acceptable, though
>>> I'd prefer something relatively well sealed.
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Re: [RBW] How to crash by yourself

['Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Sorry to hear about your crash, hope you heal quickly.
It may be a longshot, but I think it could be worth putting up a sign at the 
crash site. Someone may have simply picked up the bike because it appeared 
abandoned. A sign saying "missing bike" in big letters, along with a simple 
description and contact info (+ small reward?) might get noticed. I say this 
because a friend found a nice racing bike apparently abandoned near her house. 
She took it from there just so it wouldn't get stolen. In her case, she left a 
sign saying all of that. Worth a try, maybe.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Found rings and guard; now: Seeking 127-128 mm square taper bb assembly.

[Tim Gavin]

The ubiquitous Shimano UN-55 is available in 127 mm.  Does that not work
for you?

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I forgot to add: I'll also be interested to hear of reputable online
> sources for 127-128 mm square taper bbs. Does anyone know of any such?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> Someone offered me a very nice Phil, but it turns out to be a Ti model
>> and thus costs more than I should spend at this point.
>>
>> I am looking for a good quality one, preferably a rebuildable one
>> (rebuildable by me or rebuildable by the maker) instead of a disposable
>> one.
>>
>> A SunTour grease guard model would be very nice! So would a used, steel,
>> and cheaper Phil. Even a high end cup and cone would be acceptable, though
>> I'd prefer something relatively well sealed.
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[RBW] FS: '92 RB-1 54.5cm

[Patrick Shea]

I bought this frameset thinking I could reclaim my double century days, the
ones where I rode 52/42 rings and just sucked up the pain, unaware there
were smarter ways to get up those mountain roads.

Real good shape, no dents or dings, usual scratches from riding and locking
but the decals are still nice and intact and it's nice to look at.

$400 plus shipping, local buyer gets a free bike part of my choosing (no
duds).

I can send pics/more info to anyone who is interested.

Cheers,
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[RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

[stonehog]

I did the Oregon Outback on my Hunqapillar last year.  360 miles over 5 
days.  Minor compared to some on this list.  Wrote it up 
here: https://stonehog.com/2015/06/07/oregon-outback-2015-day-1/

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Re: Found rings and guard; now: Seeking 127-128 mm square taper bb assembly.

[Patrick Moore]

I forgot to add: I'll also be interested to hear of reputable online
sources for 127-128 mm square taper bbs. Does anyone know of any such?

Thanks.



On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Someone offered me a very nice Phil, but it turns out to be a Ti model and
> thus costs more than I should spend at this point.
>
> I am looking for a good quality one, preferably a rebuildable one
> (rebuildable by me or rebuildable by the maker) instead of a disposable
> one.
>
> A SunTour grease guard model would be very nice! So would a used, steel,
> and cheaper Phil. Even a high end cup and cone would be acceptable, though
> I'd prefer something relatively well sealed.
>
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Re: [RBW] How to crash by yourself

[Ryan Fleming]

I second what Erl said...you guys are tough. Sorry to hear about the stolen 
bike and the broken Raleigh. For my accident when I was cut off by a right 
turning car , I was very lucky my X0-1 was rescued by the fire department. 
A fire truck accompanied the ambulance that took me to the ER. The kind 
strangers who ensured I was sent to the hospital picked my bike up out of 
harm's way and the firemen took it to one of their local stations. Scuffed 
saddle is the only damage I can really see. I don't ride in winter but I'll 
be back next spring and I'm already walking more like my usual distances. 
So I'm thankful for that.

Anyway, I hope that you both heal well , and Brian I hope  some good 
samaritan returns your bike...but I like your attitude a lot!

As we all can appreciate , it could have been much, much worse . 

Regards and speedy recovery to you both!

On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 4:00:21 PM UTC-6, WETH wrote:
>
> Brian and Ron,
> My goodness! I am sorry to learn of your accidents, but I am pleased you 
> are both healing well!  I hope you are both back to 100% soon!  
> All the best,
> Erl

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?

[Patrick Moore]

Weirdo frames aside, that is. The spacing on my '99 Joe gofast is 126 mm.
(And, it will, or should, *just* take the 114mm OL AM hub, per my test,
while the 130 OL spaced '03 won't.)

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Soon Chung Lim 
wrote:

> Matt B.,
>
> I'm pretty sure Rivendell never made a frame with 126mm rear OLD.
>

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[RBW] Found rings and guard; now: Seeking 127-128 mm square taper bb assembly.

[Patrick Moore]

Someone offered me a very nice Phil, but it turns out to be a Ti model and
thus costs more than I should spend at this point.

I am looking for a good quality one, preferably a rebuildable one
(rebuildable by me or rebuildable by the maker) instead of a disposable
one.

A SunTour grease guard model would be very nice! So would a used, steel,
and cheaper Phil. Even a high end cup and cone would be acceptable, though
I'd prefer something relatively well sealed.

And a little Serendipity: just re-discovered that the cheap Shimano
cartridge bb in the Apex frame is ... 127! So I have something to start
with.

Segue: Am debating whether to keep the current 44/40 gearing, but with 28
granny instead of 26; or whether to simplify, give up some mid ring bottom
end, and use a bash guard, 40/28, as below.

The wheel is 28 1/2" in diameter, and the most commonly used gears, for the
flatland bosque riding that this bike mostly sees, are in yellow.


*44* *40* *28*
15 84 76
16 78 71
17 74 67
18 70 63
19 66 60 42
21 60 54 38
23 55 50 35
26 48 44 31
30 38 27


  *40* *28*
13 88
14 81
15 76
16 71 50
17 67 47
18 63 44
19 60 42
21 54 38
24 48 33

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem RD Chain Tension

[Steve Palincsar]

A few years ago on a club Metric Century the guy I was riding with 
dropped his chain and in the process managed to twist a link.  As a 
result the bike was constantly upshifting then immediately 
downshifting.  Finally we stopped, took out a chain tool and removed the 
bent link.  I told him that would be fine as long as he remembered not 
to use the big-big combination.  The route happens to end on two hills.  
On the final hill, he forgot and accidentally shifted into the big-big.  
Derailleur jammed in that position and wouldn't shift down.  It took us 
a half hour by the side of the road to get it so he could finish the ride.


As for quick links - the ones I use, that come with SRAM chains, work 
fine.  I've been using them for many years now.



On 11/14/2016 11:32 AM, ian m wrote:

Do you risk it ripping off if you use big/big from time to time?
-If by it you mean the derailer, it's doubtful. As long as the 
derailer is still providing some tension, meaning the chain is not so 
short it is pulling the derailer up, and shifts into and out of the 
largest cog, you should have no problem. My Altus derailer looks the 
same on my Clem. I also used two chains (really only like 5 links from 
a second chain) with only one quick link as I hate those with a 
passion. I would rather break the chain with a tool and reattach it 
that way then try to get those quick links to work.


On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 10:46:09 AM UTC-5, Jonathan Anderson 
wrote:


Thanks, Bill.  I noticed that you've posted in the past about
running a GS XT with success. You noted 'stocking up' on them as
you liked them so much (don't recall model).  The chain will wrap
big/big without the RD (likely a couple links overlap, at least).
 Even in the pic you can see there is a reasonable amount of chain
retained in the cage... It's not ideal, but it does run through
it. Do I risk it ripping off if I use big/big from time to time?
 It looks perfect in big/small (perpendicular, if not offset to
rear).  Agree long cage it optimal solution, but will require more
chain...

Re: chain, if I buy two, should I use two quick links to attach
them to each other? Otherwise, wouldn't I have to secure one of
the two ends by pushing back in a broken rivet? I saved the links
I removed, but had been led to believe reinstalling was not
advisable.



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RE: [RBW] FS: 55cm Butternut Appaloosa

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

Thank goodness.

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Subject: [RBW] FS: 55cm Butternut Appaloosa

Sale pending.

BL

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[RBW] Re: FS: GB Aravis Saddle, Compass Barlow Pass Tires, Schwalbe Furious Fred Tires, Brooks B17 Black, Nitto F15, Silver Hupe

[Belopsky]

What hooks are you using to hang the bikes? I need to do something similar 
- thanks

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[RBW] Re: FS Velo orange Cigne dirt drop / ld stem nickle 70mm New (plus extras)

[Richard Rios]

SOLD!
Thank you.


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>
> 70 mm version.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
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[RBW] Re: Clem RD Chain Tension

[ian m]

Do you risk it ripping off if you use big/big from time to time?
-If by it you mean the derailer, it's doubtful. As long as the derailer is 
still providing some tension, meaning the chain is not so short it is 
pulling the derailer up, and shifts into and out of the largest cog, you 
should have no problem. My Altus derailer looks the same on my Clem. I also 
used two chains (really only like 5 links from a second chain) with only 
one quick link as I hate those with a passion. I would rather break the 
chain with a tool and reattach it that way then try to get those quick 
links to work.

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 10:46:09 AM UTC-5, Jonathan Anderson wrote:
>
> Thanks, Bill.  I noticed that you've posted in the past about running a GS 
> XT with success. You noted 'stocking up' on them as you liked them so much 
> (don't recall model).  The chain will wrap big/big without the RD (likely a 
> couple links overlap, at least).  Even in the pic you can see there is a 
> reasonable amount of chain retained in the cage... It's not ideal, but it 
> does run through it. Do I risk it ripping off if I use big/big from time to 
> time?  It looks perfect in big/small (perpendicular, if not offset to 
> rear).  Agree long cage it optimal solution, but will require more chain... 
>
> Re: chain, if I buy two, should I use two quick links to attach them to 
> each other? Otherwise, wouldn't I have to secure one of the two ends by 
> pushing back in a broken rivet? I saved the links I removed, but had been 
> led to believe reinstalling was not advisable.  
>
> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 10:27:17 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Yeah installing a short cage rear der just for the sake of tinkering was 
>> probably not necessary.  You need to set chain length for big-big and just 
>> not use the gears that droop. Given the current situation I'd probably just 
>> recommend that you never use big-big and see if you can live with it. 
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito Ca 
>>
>

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[RBW] FS: 55cm Butternut Appaloosa

[Bill Lindsay]

Sale pending. 

BL

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[RBW] Re: Clem RD Chain Tension

[Bill Lindsay]

There is little risk of ripping it off.  Its a little tighter than ideal but 
adding a whole link would be a bit much. 

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Re: [RBW] Clem RD Chain Tension

[ian m]

What makes this "not all right"? Presuming derailer shifts smoothly in and 
out of largest cog, what exactly is problematic about a derailer stretched 
to this angle? 

As long as the chain has a little bit of slack in big-big and shifts 
without problem it's only an aesthetic, not mechanical, issue.

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 9:57:50 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
>
> On 11/14/2016 09:45 AM, Jonathan Anderson wrote:
>
> Hi there, my wife and four month old son were away this weekend so I had 
> little choice but to tinker with the Clem.  This tinkering amounted to 
> installing an old RD that I had in my parts bucket from an old MTB. 
> Straightforward enough, right? Sort of. Upon rerouting the chain, I noticed 
> that I had considerable slack ('droop') in small/small. **Without checking 
> big/big, I promptly removed a link and reattached the KMC quick link. Still 
> droopy. Removed another link. Passable. Happy.  
>
> But on my ride yesterday afternoon I noticed some noise when shifting to 
> big/big to get up a small hill. 'Cross-chaining.'  I know, but it was a 
> small hill and it's more practical to shift 'down' a couple to get over it 
> vs. having to shift down in the front and up in the back... Following? 
>  Anyway, I heard the noise and made a note to check when I returned. I 
> believe the sound, which is not overly pronounced, but audible is due to 
> the RD being pulled pretty far out and adding additional tension to the 
> chain (photo below).  
>
> Q (finally...), is this too much tension?  It's a GS RD, so it's rated for 
> 33T capacity vs. the 37 on the Clem. Should be fine? In retrospect, I 
> should have left one additional link on the chain as I never ride 
> small/small. But I didn't think that far ahead. Question is whether I can 
> get away with it the way it is. If not, I have no idea where to find a 
> chain long enough to fit the clem stays 
>
>
> Well, what is shown in that photograph is definitely not all right.  The 
> chain is too short.  Where you get a longer chain is you buy two, remove 
> links from the donor and add them to the chain you will use (obviously 
> saving the links for future such transplants).   If you're having trouble 
> with chain wrap you may want to consider one of the new clutch type Dynasys 
> MTB derailleurs.  You cna make them compatible with your road shifters with 
> a Wolftooth TanPan.  And avoid the big/big and small/small combinations.
>
> Appreciate your thoughts. 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] FS: GB Aravis Saddle, Compass Barlow Pass Tires, Schwalbe Furious Fred Tires, Brooks B17 Black, Nitto F15, Silver Hupe

[David Banzer]

Selling some stuff to fund my garage workshop project, currently underway: 
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMkCjSCj9sm/?taken-by=treetopdesigns
Need to build some benches and storage to be able to tinker in comfort.

I'm going to do small batches of parts for sale as I unpack garage space.
Shipping is NOT included. I can likely get tires into a padded flat rate 
envelope, and the saddle as well (will be well packed) if you don't need 
the original box.
Paypal PERSONAL payment preferred.
Contact offlist if interested. I can take photos.
Thanks,
David
River Grove, IL

1. Gilles Berthoud Aravis Saddle - black, sorta faded to black brown on the 
sides, new, titanium rails - $200

2. Compass Barlow Pass Tires - used, lots of tread, center 'ribs' still 
have tread so lots of miles left in these, dirty sidewalls could clean up a 
bit - $75 for the pair

3. Schwalbe Furious Fred Tires - used very minimally, moved to muddier 
trails and need a little more bite than these offer, they work great on 
gravel/dirt and pavement - $70 for a pair, 2 pairs available

4. Brooks B17 Standard - black, broken in and comfy, maybe 1000 miles or so 
on this one, minor scuffs - $80

5. Nitto F15 Front Rack/Bag Attachement - bought this used off this list 
but never used it, one handlebar mount was drilled through and fastens with 
a nut on the underside, functions just the same - $45

6. Silver Hupe - nice condition - $20

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[RBW] Re: Wtb long nitto struts

[Bill in Roswell GA]

Michael
I have a pair of Nitto struts that are 35 cm long, flat w/ hole on one end, 
rounded finish on other end. 

One is still in plastic. The other I test fitted for an M10 rack, then 
realized I didn't need them.

How is $15 plus whatever shipping is via USPS Priority?

I have a Paypal account. Will get shipping calculated later today.

Cheers
Bill in Roswell, GA

I 

On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 10:57:45 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:
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> Anyone have some long nitto rack struts they aren't using? 

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[RBW] Re: Clem RD Chain Tension

[Jonathan Anderson]

Thanks, Bill.  I noticed that you've posted in the past about running a GS 
XT with success. You noted 'stocking up' on them as you liked them so much 
(don't recall model).  The chain will wrap big/big without the RD (likely a 
couple links overlap, at least).  Even in the pic you can see there is a 
reasonable amount of chain retained in the cage... It's not ideal, but it 
does run through it. Do I risk it ripping off if I use big/big from time to 
time?  It looks perfect in big/small (perpendicular, if not offset to 
rear).  Agree long cage it optimal solution, but will require more chain... 

Re: chain, if I buy two, should I use two quick links to attach them to 
each other? Otherwise, wouldn't I have to secure one of the two ends by 
pushing back in a broken rivet? I saved the links I removed, but had been 
led to believe reinstalling was not advisable.  

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 10:27:17 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Yeah installing a short cage rear der just for the sake of tinkering was 
> probably not necessary.  You need to set chain length for big-big and just 
> not use the gears that droop. Given the current situation I'd probably just 
> recommend that you never use big-big and see if you can live with it. 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito Ca 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 55cm Butternut Appaloosa

[Rod Holland]

So, no drivetrain, no brakes. Not a complete bike, but arguably a complete 
Rivendell velocipede. Might want to lower the seat...




Sounds like a dandy project for someone. I'd bite myself, but am trying to 
observe a "one frameset at a time" discipline.


rod



On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 11:20:33 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I'd like to clarify something.  I am not selling a complete bike.  See 
> this list and this price:
>
> *frame-fork-headset*
> *stock seatpost and saddle*
> *stock wheelset, tires and tubes (no cassette)*
> *SKS P65 fenders*
> *stock choco-moose handlebars*
> *stock kickstand*
>
> *$1300 shipped* 
>
> That's everything you would get.  See things that are not on that list?  
> You get nothing that is not on this list.  
>
> No crankset or bb
> no pedals
> no chain or derailers
> no brakes brakelevers or shifters
>
>
> On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 12:32:50 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Are you bummed that you can't buy a 55cm Appaloosa?  Are you double 
>> bummed that the Butternut color of 55cm Appaloosa sold out in the pre-sale, 
>> and never gave you a chance at one?  
>>
>> I love mine, but I've fallen for the 650B Hunqapillar.  If you want to 
>> buy my Appaloosa, I promise I will turn around your money and buy a MUSA 
>> Hunqapillar.  
>>
>> I'm offering the following:
>>
>> frame-fork-headset
>> stock seatpost and saddle
>> stock wheelset, tires and tubes (no cassette)
>> SKS P65 fenders
>> stock choco-moose handlebars
>> stock kickstand
>>
>> $1300 shipped 
>>
>> Here's a photo of the complete bike:  
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/29852875792
>>
>> I talked to Grant about it and he said he's not mad if I sell the 
>> Appaloosa that I just recently bought.  He gets it that I love 650B.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem RD Chain Tension

[Matt B.]

The long stays might mean you need more tension on the chain than you would 
otherwise.  I'd look into a clutch style MTB mech.  Otherwise, the GS is 
the short-cage Shimano and you may be better off with the SGS which wraps 
more chain.

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 9:47:59 AM UTC-5, Jonathan Anderson wrote:
>
> Hi there, my wife and four month old son were away this weekend so I had 
> little choice but to tinker with the Clem.  This tinkering amounted to 
> installing an old RD that I had in my parts bucket from an old MTB. 
> Straightforward enough, right? Sort of. Upon rerouting the chain, I noticed 
> that I had considerable slack ('droop') in small/small. **Without checking 
> big/big, I promptly removed a link and reattached the KMC quick link. Still 
> droopy. Removed another link. Passable. Happy. 
>
> But on my ride yesterday afternoon I noticed some noise when shifting to 
> big/big to get up a small hill. 'Cross-chaining.'  I know, but it was a 
> small hill and it's more practical to shift 'down' a couple to get over it 
> vs. having to shift down in the front and up in the back... Following? 
>  Anyway, I heard the noise and made a note to check when I returned. I 
> believe the sound, which is not overly pronounced, but audible is due to 
> the RD being pulled pretty far out and adding additional tension to the 
> chain (photo below).  
>
> Q (finally...), is this too much tension?  It's a GS RD, so it's rated for 
> 33T capacity vs. the 37 on the Clem. Should be fine? In retrospect, I 
> should have left one additional link on the chain as I never ride 
> small/small. But I didn't think that far ahead. Question is whether I can 
> get away with it the way it is. If not, I have no idea where to find a 
> chain long enough to fit the clem stays 
>
> Appreciate your thoughts. 
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: What is the furthest you have ever ridden at one time with Boscos?

[Mark Reimer]

Never rode Bosco's, but I've done plenty of rides over 100km on Albatross 
bars for what it's worth. Not a fan of upright bars like these on long 
rides though, I just can't get into a body position that generates power 
from lower down or something

On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 9:16:49 AM UTC-6, Marc Irwin wrote:
>
> I've ridden 90-120 miles on several days which were part of different week 
> long trips.  The average when traveling is around 60 miles a day.
>
> Marc
>
> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 2:40:30 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote:
>>
>> Century? Double century? 1200k?
>> I'm not talking touring with overnight stops and 12 hours off the bike at 
>> one time.More like event rides/brevets, or just homemade long distance 
>> rides. Thanks for the reports.
>
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[RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

[Mark Reimer]

Man, 1,000km, that's a long, long ride :)

I have a couple 200-225km rides on my Atlantis, all on dirt. That's plenty 
long enough for me right now.

On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 11:07:06 AM UTC-6, bo richardson wrote:
>
> i rode bellingham to seattle on my Rambouillet last summer. 125 miles, 
> mostly on a lovely new trail
> from east of mt vernon down to Snohomish.
> South of Snohomish to the BG in Bothell was Hiway 9. Might as well have 
> been freeway but wide shoulders.
> Highpoint was a pint of coffee Haggen Daz in Snohomish, down by the River. 
> A couple of non athletic looking younger people yelled "nice Rivendell" at 
> me.from the sidewalk.
>
> Athletic triumph was climbing all the way up off the BG at 123rd, without 
> walking the bike. Kept the front wheel on the pavement most of the way up 
> the hill.
>
> Ride took 11 hours including ice cream stop. Acceptable time for 65 year 
> old.
>
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[RBW] Clem RD Chain Tension

[Bill Lindsay]

Yeah installing a short cage rear der just for the sake of tinkering was 
probably not necessary.  You need to set chain length for big-big and just not 
use the gears that droop. Given the current situation I'd probably just 
recommend that you never use big-big and see if you can live with it. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca 

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[RBW] Good news, bad news: Rejoining the peloton

[Rod Holland]

Welcome back! We missed you.

rod

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?

[Matt Beecher]

Thanks for the verification Bill.  I had not measured mine recently, but a 
130mm wheelset definitely does not fit without spreading the stays.  I 
thought that I had read the 126mm spacing online, but I cannot find that 
now.  
I found a 126mm spaced Hyperglide freehub wheelset, so I will use those 
with a 7-speed cassette.  

Thanks,
Matt


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[RBW] FS: 2014 52cm Surly Straggler - 700c wheels - Black - Very Good Condition (8/10)

[Max Bergen]

Moving out of the country and selling a couple bikes. Figured this 
community would appreciate this one... 

2014 Surly Straggler in very good (8/10) condition! 

Regularly serviced at Bicycle Sport Shop here in Austin; disc brakes stop 
on command, all the components are super clean and the frame is still just 
as solid as the day I bought it. 

Selling as a stock complete (tiagra components, no pedals, seat). $1300 
includes packaging and shipping in CONUS. 

Link to photos: https://goo.gl/photos/boRi7c7otKVsRsVN9

Thanks!
-Max



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Re: [RBW] Clem RD Chain Tension

[Steve Palincsar]

On 11/14/2016 09:45 AM, Jonathan Anderson wrote:
Hi there, my wife and four month old son were away this weekend so I 
had little choice but to tinker with the Clem.  This tinkering 
amounted to installing an old RD that I had in my parts bucket from an 
old MTB. Straightforward enough, right? Sort of. Upon rerouting the 
chain, I noticed that I had considerable slack ('droop') in 
small/small. **Without checking big/big, I promptly removed a link and 
reattached the KMC quick link. Still droopy. Removed another link. 
Passable. Happy.


But on my ride yesterday afternoon I noticed some noise when shifting 
to big/big to get up a small hill. 'Cross-chaining.'  I know, but 
it was a small hill and it's more practical to shift 'down' a couple 
to get over it vs. having to shift down in the front and up in the 
back... Following?  Anyway, I heard the noise and made a note to check 
when I returned. I believe the sound, which is not overly pronounced, 
but audible is due to the RD being pulled pretty far out and adding 
additional tension to the chain (photo below).


Q (finally...), is this too much tension?  It's a GS RD, so it's rated 
for 33T capacity vs. the 37 on the Clem. Should be fine? In 
retrospect, I should have left one additional link on the chain as I 
never ride small/small. But I didn't think that far ahead. Question is 
whether I can get away with it the way it is. If not, I have no idea 
where to find a chain long enough to fit the clem stays




Well, what is shown in that photograph is definitely not all right. The 
chain is too short.  Where you get a longer chain is you buy two, remove 
links from the donor and add them to the chain you will use (obviously 
saving the links for future such transplants).   If you're having 
trouble with chain wrap you may want to consider one of the new clutch 
type Dynasys MTB derailleurs.  You cna make them compatible with your 
road shifters with a Wolftooth TanPan.  And avoid the big/big and 
small/small combinations.



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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?

[Ian A]

What is it about the wheelset you are not happy with?  If the hub is 
acceptable, there is no reason not to use it in a new wheel build.  Failing 
that, VO have the Grand Cru in 126 OLD.  - it is a freewheel.  I'm 
surprised at the 126 spacing though.  My 753 double Joe LongLow had 130mm 
spacing (possibly 132.5).

Ian A/Canada

On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 5:36:10 PM UTC-7, Matt Beecher wrote:
>
> I have a Rivendell Road Standard that I really like, but I am disappointed 
> with the current wheelset.  The stays are currently spaced at 126 and 
> normally I wouldn't hesitate to spread them to 130mm to open up more 
> options,  but I fear what I have read about 753 tubing.  On the other hand, 
> I have read that the Road Standard used thicker tubing than most 753 
> frames, so I wonder if this makes it more suitable to spreading...or less 
> so.  In short, has anyone here spread their R.S. stays and used them 
> without failure?
> Thanks,
> Matt B.
> Oswego, IL
>

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Re: [RBW] Good news, bad news: Rejoining the peloton

[Ed Fausto]

Welcome back Patrick :-)
I really miss reading your posts in this community.
Regards,
Edgar
Philippines


On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 5:04 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Time riding solo is always a gift, and it helps reveal the gifts of riding
> in a group with greater clarity, as well as where I need to be more
> disciplined in not participating. So I’ll be experimenting with that and
> doubtless going back and forth in how much I join in.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.OurHolyConception.org
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
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[RBW] Clem RD Chain Tension

[Jonathan Anderson]

Hi there, my wife and four month old son were away this weekend so I had 
little choice but to tinker with the Clem.  This tinkering amounted to 
installing an old RD that I had in my parts bucket from an old MTB. 
Straightforward enough, right? Sort of. Upon rerouting the chain, I noticed 
that I had considerable slack ('droop') in small/small. **Without checking 
big/big, I promptly removed a link and reattached the KMC quick link. Still 
droopy. Removed another link. Passable. Happy. 

But on my ride yesterday afternoon I noticed some noise when shifting to 
big/big to get up a small hill. 'Cross-chaining.'  I know, but it was a 
small hill and it's more practical to shift 'down' a couple to get over it 
vs. having to shift down in the front and up in the back... Following? 
 Anyway, I heard the noise and made a note to check when I returned. I 
believe the sound, which is not overly pronounced, but audible is due to 
the RD being pulled pretty far out and adding additional tension to the 
chain (photo below).  

Q (finally...), is this too much tension?  It's a GS RD, so it's rated for 
33T capacity vs. the 37 on the Clem. Should be fine? In retrospect, I 
should have left one additional link on the chain as I never ride 
small/small. But I didn't think that far ahead. Question is whether I can 
get away with it the way it is. If not, I have no idea where to find a 
chain long enough to fit the clem stays 

Appreciate your thoughts. 



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[RBW] Re: High Riding Handlebar Bag

[Bill in Roswell GA]

That particular Klick Fix system (and similar systems) does jack the bag up 
high. 

Klick Fix does sell another system that allows the bag to sit a bit lower. 
The systems uses a bent steel rod that clicks into the bar-mounted holder. 
The bars slide into sleeves on each side of the bag near the top. 

Swift Industries makes such a bag 
http://builtbyswift.com/shop/custom-paloma-handlebar-bag/
And the http://builtbyswift.com/shop/kitsap-paloma/  Scroll to bottom of 
page to see one in use. 

Seems like I came across another company that uses the same system, but I 
don't recall the name.

Cheers,
Bill in Roswell, GA

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?

[Bill M.]

My 1995 Road Standard was built to 128 mm spacing to accommodate either 126 
or 130 mm hubs.  I believe they were all that way.  Double check your 
spacing with an accurate caliper, if it's 128 I would just install a 130 
wheel and be happy.

Bill
Stockton, CA

On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 4:36:10 PM UTC-8, Matt Beecher wrote:
>
> I have a Rivendell Road Standard that I really like, but I am disappointed 
> with the current wheelset.  The stays are currently spaced at 126 and 
> normally I wouldn't hesitate to spread them to 130mm to open up more 
> options,  but I fear what I have read about 753 tubing.  On the other hand, 
> I have read that the Road Standard used thicker tubing than most 753 
> frames, so I wonder if this makes it more suitable to spreading...or less 
> so.  In short, has anyone here spread their R.S. stays and used them 
> without failure?
>
> Thanks,
> Matt B.
> Oswego, IL
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: High Riding Handlebar Bag

[Scott Henry]

Use a decaleur to place the bag wherever you like.


On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 11:54 PM, Scott Blouke 
wrote:

> Kevin
>
> You could try the Nitto Lamp Holder to lower your KLICKfix mount.
>  http://www.benscycle.com/p-1565-nitto-lamp-holder-1-260mm.aspx
> I don't know if you would need the Lamp Holder 2 or not.
>
> Scott
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[RBW] Re: Good news, bad news: Rejoining the peloton

[ascpgh]

Welcome back. There always was a place at this table.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Saturday, November 12, 2016 at 1:03:35 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Time riding solo is always a gift, and it helps reveal the gifts of riding 
> in a group with greater clarity, as well as where I need to be more 
> disciplined in not participating. So I’ll be experimenting with that and 
> doubtless going back and forth in how much I join in. 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
>
> www.OurHolyConception.org 
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?

[Joe Bernard]

Yeah, I'm curious about that, too..126 OLD was a dead spec by 1994. I'll be 
very surprised if any Waterford Riv was built with it. 

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