[RBW] Re: WTB: Paul Motolites and Love Levers 2.5s

[Eric Marth]

Jason makes a great point. Things have a better chance of turning up when 
you call or email for specifics rather than refreshing that product page! 
If you get a definitive idea of when those parts will be back in stock at 
Paul it will help you decide if you want to purchase from Blue Lug instead. 
Food for thought :) 

On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:30:54 AM UTC-4 divis...@gmail.com wrote:

> Plus, they also have a supply chain. They're not mining the bauxite, 
> smelting the aluminum and fabricating the CNC tools themselves; their 
> suppliers are constrained in all the same ways as everyone else, and the 
> delays magnify through each stage.
>
> Peter "sad, but true" Adler
> Berkeley, CA
>
> On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 8:48:37 PM UTC-7 velomann wrote:
>
>> Regarding Paul components and supply/restock.
>> I've ordered special stuff from Paul several times over the years and 
>> always had fantastic and very personal service. And sometimes they've even 
>> "found" stuff for me that wasn't available on the website. 
>> That said, they have mentioned more than once on blog and social media 
>> that their production is hampered right now by the need to have each person 
>> working alone and maintaining Covid protocol. The downside to running a 
>> small production operation in these times.
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:39:32 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys thought I'd throw this out to the group I've been waiting for 
>>> Paul to restock the ol' motolites for what seems like it must be at least 6 
>>> months now with no success. My poor Appaloosa just wants to go for a ride 
>>> and the only thing on my build list that is missing are the brakes.
>>> I am after silver for the brakes and levers but boy if someone had some 
>>> blue anodised laying around that they were actually willing to part with 
>>> that would be amazing.
>>> Main caveat: I live in Australia so will require you to international 
>>> ship.
>>> I know this might be a long-shot but thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> -Brendon M.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Paul Motolites and Love Levers 2.5s

[Eric Marth]

I stand corrected! Wow, that is fst. 

On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 1:16:37 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Blue Lug shipping certainly is costly, but it's actually very quick - I 
> had my last order show up within 48 hours of checking out!  My Riv order 
> placed the same day took an additional 3 weeks to show up.  Seems like a 
> great option if you can stomach the cost premium  
>
> On Saturday, 27 March 2021 at 09:15:28 UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> One solution: Blue Lug has motolites and love levers in stock in a few 
>> different colors. Higher cost all around plus slow, spendy shipping. 
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 8:54:16 PM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> Ordering from Riv just puts you in the queue, sadly.
>>>
>>> On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 22:19:04 UTC+8 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Ah, that would make sense.

 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 9:13:06 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Pretty sure there's also a note on the Riv site about how they don't 
> stock *any* Paul parts and they order from Paul as needed because 
> they're nearby. So likely if you order from Riv you'd face the same 
> availability issues. Pardon my assumptions! Call Riv when they open? 
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 8:50:26 AM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Riv's site show these as available? I managed to add a pair to the 
>> cart even.
>>
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/brakes-linear-pull-paul-motolite?variant=3856150298637
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 2:35:13 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I feel your pain brother. I have these on order at Analog Cycles for 
>>> a custom anodizing job and I'm not sure I'll ever see the dang things. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:39:32 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>>>
 Hey guys thought I'd throw this out to the group I've been waiting 
 for Paul to restock the ol' motolites for what seems like it must be 
 at 
 least 6 months now with no success. My poor Appaloosa just wants to go 
 for 
 a ride and the only thing on my build list that is missing are the 
 brakes.
 I am after silver for the brakes and levers but boy if someone had 
 some blue anodised laying around that they were actually willing to 
 part 
 with that would be amazing.
 Main caveat: I live in Australia so will require you to 
 international ship.
 I know this might be a long-shot but thanks in advance.

 -Brendon M.

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Any Susie owners out there?

[Eric Marth]

I'm late to the party but thanks, Keith, for the MB1/Susie photos. This is 
reference material worth holding onto!

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 5:30:19 PM UTC-4 duh...@gmail.com wrote:

> Congrats Ben on your new Susie, please keep us posted with the build!
>
> Mine is finally "done", tho I'll probably end up fitting some Flat 80 
> fenders in the fall.
>
> Thanks to everyone at Riv who were super helpful with the build, as well 
> as the group members who helped supply and buy parts to get this thing 
> dialed in.
>
> See you out there!
>
> [image: IMG_3314.JPG]
>
> My riding partner insisted on a photo with Susie
>
> [image: IMG_3315.JPG]
>
> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 7:55:17 AM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> Congratulations, and good call.  This will be your prize bike for many 
>> years, if not life.  86cm PBH will work well (I have an 87 PBH, you can see 
>> my seatpost extension in the photos further back in the thread)  Depending 
>> on the rest of your proportions ( torso length) and assuming you're 
>> average, you'll likely want a stem/bar combo without a lot of rise though.  
>> But that's good, and gives you more options than most bikes where adequate 
>> stack height is not a design feature.  Too high will take weight off the 
>> bars and make steering less stable  in my experience.
>>
>> I also have a short-wheelbase Jones and another long, rigid mountain bike 
>> with similar steering geometry to the Jones LWB (crust scapegoat), and had 
>> a Clem that the susie replaced, but don't find the Rivendells to be very 
>> similar to the other two.  Susie feels equally if not more comfortable, 
>> lighter and quicker, but also seems to encouage a more leisurly ride.  For 
>> me, the hillibikes work best as my daily, do- everything bike that I COULD 
>> take anywhere without worry.  But I'll use the Jones if my intention is a 
>> rough trail ride.
>>
>> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 12:22:10 AM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> You're going to love it, I think it's one of the coolest bikes Riv has 
>>> ever done and I love the fillet joints. I'm 80-ish PBH on a Medium, I think 
>>> your Large will be perfect for you.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 10:00:58 PM UTC-7 benjami...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I snagged the last one! Well thanks to all the reviews here and 
 elsewhere, including some long discussions with Will, I bought the LAST 
 Susie! It's a large, and I'm a little anxious it's too big even though 
 plenty of people say it won't be (PBH 86). I currently ride a Jones Plus 
 LWB size M, and that's a big bike. I imagine the L Susie will be big too 
 but hopefully not as heavy, and the ride might be similar. Any Jones 
 riders 
 out there who can confirm?

 Gonna get RBW to build it. I'll be using it for single track and 
 gravel, as well as around town.  Drivetrain wise, thinking of a double in 
 the front, and maybe 10 speed in the rear? What set ups have people been 
 using?

 Thanks y'all- Ben in ATL

 On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 9:15:39 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Every few days I'd go on the Riv website and see if that orange 53 was 
> still available - and I noticed the other day when it wasn't.  Glad it's 
> gone to a list member and I'll get to see it built up hopefully!  There 
> was 
> no possible way I could buy it, but I liked to daydream... 



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[RBW] Re: WTB: Paul Motolites and Love Levers 2.5s

[Eric Marth]

One solution: Blue Lug has motolites and love levers in stock in a few 
different colors. Higher cost all around plus slow, spendy shipping. 

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 8:54:16 PM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:

> Ordering from Riv just puts you in the queue, sadly.
>
> On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 22:19:04 UTC+8 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Ah, that would make sense.
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 9:13:06 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Pretty sure there's also a note on the Riv site about how they don't 
>>> stock *any* Paul parts and they order from Paul as needed because 
>>> they're nearby. So likely if you order from Riv you'd face the same 
>>> availability issues. Pardon my assumptions! Call Riv when they open? 
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 8:50:26 AM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Riv's site show these as available? I managed to add a pair to the cart 
 even.


 https://www.rivbike.com/products/brakes-linear-pull-paul-motolite?variant=3856150298637



 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 2:35:13 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I feel your pain brother. I have these on order at Analog Cycles for a 
> custom anodizing job and I'm not sure I'll ever see the dang things. 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:39:32 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> Hey guys thought I'd throw this out to the group I've been waiting 
>> for Paul to restock the ol' motolites for what seems like it must be at 
>> least 6 months now with no success. My poor Appaloosa just wants to go 
>> for 
>> a ride and the only thing on my build list that is missing are the 
>> brakes.
>> I am after silver for the brakes and levers but boy if someone had 
>> some blue anodised laying around that they were actually willing to part 
>> with that would be amazing.
>> Main caveat: I live in Australia so will require you to international 
>> ship.
>> I know this might be a long-shot but thanks in advance.
>>
>> -Brendon M.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 J'Appaloosa

[Eric Marth]

Conclusive sleuthing
On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:44:42 AM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> From the 11/20 newsletter. I read it as though the frames would share the 
> same color: Mermaid.
>
> Bones
>
> [image: screenshot.png]
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 7:48:27 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Very plausible theory, Jason! 
>>
>> Here's another thought: I wonder if this color will be used with several 
>> frames, similar to how the deep orange color was used across a bunch of 
>> models recently.   
>>
>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 8:52:27 PM UTC-4 zac.te...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Loved that color on the platy. The pics from blue lug made me fall in 
>>> love with it. I hope it doesn't end up on the appa cause I really don't 
>>> need to be buying a new bike for a while! hah
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 5:21:37 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 Given the new website and generally tech-unsavvy nature of Riv, I 
 wouldn't be surprised if those tubes were meant for the Platy page and 
 we're imagining a Joe that doesn't exist :D  But just as likely it's a new 
 cross-model introduction colour! 

>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Paul Motolites and Love Levers 2.5s

[Eric Marth]

Pretty sure there's also a note on the Riv site about how they don't stock 
*any* Paul parts and they order from Paul as needed because they're nearby. 
So likely if you order from Riv you'd face the same availability issues. 
Pardon my assumptions! Call Riv when they open? 

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 8:50:26 AM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Riv's site show these as available? I managed to add a pair to the cart 
> even.
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/brakes-linear-pull-paul-motolite?variant=3856150298637
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 2:35:13 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I feel your pain brother. I have these on order at Analog Cycles for a 
>> custom anodizing job and I'm not sure I'll ever see the dang things. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:39:32 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys thought I'd throw this out to the group I've been waiting for 
>>> Paul to restock the ol' motolites for what seems like it must be at least 6 
>>> months now with no success. My poor Appaloosa just wants to go for a ride 
>>> and the only thing on my build list that is missing are the brakes.
>>> I am after silver for the brakes and levers but boy if someone had some 
>>> blue anodised laying around that they were actually willing to part with 
>>> that would be amazing.
>>> Main caveat: I live in Australia so will require you to international 
>>> ship.
>>> I know this might be a long-shot but thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> -Brendon M.
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 J'Appaloosa

[Eric Marth]

Very plausible theory, Jason! 

Here's another thought: I wonder if this color will be used with several 
frames, similar to how the deep orange color was used across a bunch of 
models recently.   

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 8:52:27 PM UTC-4 zac.te...@gmail.com wrote:

> Loved that color on the platy. The pics from blue lug made me fall in love 
> with it. I hope it doesn't end up on the appa cause I really don't need to 
> be buying a new bike for a while! hah
>
> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 5:21:37 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Given the new website and generally tech-unsavvy nature of Riv, I 
>> wouldn't be surprised if those tubes were meant for the Platy page and 
>> we're imagining a Joe that doesn't exist :D  But just as likely it's a new 
>> cross-model introduction colour! 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nutmeg Spring Break MTB Ride on a Susie

[Eric Marth]

I believe the working title for these bars is Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back 
Bars. Video here . Also some 
pics scattered around Ron's site of them mounted on a Sam. 
On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 7:32:35 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:

> The bars are a Tosco-like Crust-Ronsbikes-Ultraromance prototype. I was 
> told they should be available via Crust in May will be made in Taiwan, 
> not by Nitto. 
>
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 9:36 PM Justin  wrote:
>
>> I may disagree on the bars. I believe they are the upcoming Ultraromance 
>> x Crust super wide bars. No release date that I know of
>>
>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 8:50:22 PM UTC-4 zac.te...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> i think it's this bar
>>>
>>> https://crustbikes.com/collections/handlebars/products/juan-martin-bar
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 5:26:47 PM UTC-7 Ed Fausto wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Justin for the video :-)
 Would you know what handlebars he used for his Susie?

 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 1:27:21 AM UTC+8 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
 NY) wrote:

> Not my video, but I don't think Tin is on here so I'm sharing on his 
> behalf. Fun video from this past Sunday's mostly singletrack ride in 
> Connecticut on his new Susie. 
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2021-03-25 at 1.23.32 PM.png]
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFM2o5Hl584
>
> More pics of his set up here:  
> https://www.instagram.com/elevator_to_hell/
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's your favorite painting of a Bombadil?

[Eric Marth]

Jason -- I'm one who loves natural finishes and the way things look as they 
wear out. Patinated copper, weathered cedar, diamond plate steel thresholds 
with 100 years of foot traffic.

There isn't a paint that can compete with the subtle gradations in steel or 
*especially* the sweet brass brazing around the lugs. Few things are as 
lovely as that delightful blend of copper and zinc.

I understand there may be issues with corrosion over time but if regular 
spot-coating gives you enough peace of mind to roll on then I'd say keep it 
as is. 

I'm not much for decals, either. The head badge is plenty! Subtlety can be 
sublime. 

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 12:46:33 PM UTC-4 Robert Tilley wrote:

> I’ve always liked green on Rivs. I almost went with British racing green 
> on mine but decided to go with their pea sage green. I still like it. I 
> remember opening the box and being a bit underwhelmed with the color but 
> once it was built up with silver parts and a honey Brooks the color looked 
> much better. Plus it blends in here in the Southwest.
>
> https://roberttilley.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-All-Rounder/i-xzJFBGK/A
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 25, 2021, at 7:37 AM, Reid Echols  wrote:
>
> I love the green/white of my recently-acquired Bombadil! It is pretty 
> much peak Riv for me, and I've been climbing a long time. 
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I forgot to do this. Not a great photo for seeing the color but a super 
>> great photo of Mark in his cyclocross glory days! 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 10:46:57 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Mark@Riv's first cyclocross custom was my color gray with cream, that 
>>> was a really pretty bike. I'll see if I can track down a pic. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 10:19:39 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 Nathan - I was waiting for that answer haha

 Thanks for the suggestions!  I know what you mean Michael about 
 choosing a paintjob that's too near an original color without being an 
 original color. I have thought about Atlantis blue-green too, as its such 
 a 
 beautiful and iconic color but I also think it is for Atlantis' and 
 Atlantis' alone. Similarly I've thought about Riv blue because it's just 
 awesome, but also not very imaginative. 

 The grey of Joe's custom is pretty enticing as an option, to be honest, 
 though I would just do a white/cream panel headtube and seat tube collar.  
 British Racing green is also up near the top of the list now, thanks for 
 the suggestion!  I've always loved it as a colour and it does look great 
 on 
 the Bombadil - and is a homage to my Clem H which I sold to fund this 
 Bombadil... 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Most Traveled Rivendell? Pamela Murray’s Betty Foy: 51,845 Miles

[Eric Marth]

Pam those are some *great *pictures. Thanks for sharing. A great case for 
straps and for not leaving the good stuff behind. Also proves a good point: 
by the time you go back for your truck someone else beat you to it!

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 6:56:12 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> I didn't know "who" to attach my reply to, since there are so many awesome 
> (I just read an article that that is an overused word) riders here.  I 
> admire Pam for her use of Betty Foy for day to day activities instead of 
> driving, and probably a lot of "just fun miles."  The miles just add up.  I 
> know that Patrick is in that group.
>
> For some of the others, as one of my friends would say "UNBELIEVABLE" (but 
> in a believable way) for the amount of miles.  Quite impressive.
>
> For everyone, the joy every ride bike brings outshines the actual number 
> of logged miles.  I do about 1000 miles per year, planning on upping that 
> this year, but I don't really keep track other than approximations.  I 
> smile every mile.
>
> Roberta
> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 7:25:39 PM UTC-4 dougP wrote:
>
>> I'll play.  I got my Atlantis in 2003, so it's had a lot of years to 
>> accumulate mileage.  Touring piles on the miles & I lost track a few years 
>> back at 70,000.  Judging by the parts I've worn out it seems reasonable.  
>> Here's pix from a few adventures in the Pacific Northwest, upper Midwest, & 
>> a shot from Montenegro.
>>
>> I've never carried any loads like Pam has.  Hats off to her for 
>> creativity in bicycle usefulness. 
>>
>> dougP
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: 2021 J'Appaloosa

[Eric Marth]

Yeah, the Riv I most want is an Apppalsa (tears emojis) and this color 
is so sweat. I also dig the mustard they did a few years back. 

On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 12:21:17 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Looks a lot like the Platypus "blue silver" which is really more of a 
> blue-green - and I LOVE it.  Really love it.  If I didn't have the Bombadil 
> I'd be lining up for an Appa in this color.  
>
> On Tuesday, 23 March 2021 at 04:18:28 UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I noticed this morning that the Appaloosa page has been updated with a 
>> painted sample tube. Looks like a creamy sage. Wow! 
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2021-03-23 at 7.17.23 AM.png]
>>
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[RBW] Re: Large Sackville ShopSack

[Eric Marth]

Seems typical of Riv, tweaking the classics with each iteration. The 
original Sackville labels were metal! And the shop sacks originally didn't 
have an interior pocket and had exterior basket clasp hardware. 
On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 1:01:03 AM UTC-4 River Bailey wrote:

> I have a Medium Sackville ShopSack, and just ordered and received a Large. 
> My question is, does anyone know the story as to why the label changed? My 
> medium one says, "Made in the USA", whereas my large says, "Hecho in 
> Connecticut"! Just seems a bit odd. 
>
> [image: IMG_6882.jpg][image: IMG_6883.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: Let's see your shop and workbench

[Eric Marth]

Dang, glad you made it Rich! I'm *really *impressed with the bottle cage 
and cup as tool holder. That's some next level stuff. I'm serious. I like 
your shop-made tool holders as well as the base you made for the truing 
stand. I'm with you on the plywood, nails and shop-made methods for holding 
stuff. Table-mounted vise is cool. 

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 5:45:54 PM UTC-4 richdpow...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm very late to the party but wanted to share. I've done a lot more 
> volunteer work- frame and wheel building for our local co-op. My frame 
> building items are in another room and I haven't done a full-frame in 
> almost 2 years, although I've done a lot of S and S coupler retro's which 
> is odd. It seems repairs will come and go in cycles. My space has been 
> taken over by various kids and family projects, which has been fun. My 
> daughter's crafts, my son's pitching practice area, and oddly, a wrestling 
> mat. Hey, they are only young once! My dream is a separate space outside of 
> the house, but that is just that, a dream! 
> -Rich in Des Moines
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Let's see your shop and workbench

[Eric Marth]

Thanks everyone for sharing pics and details and such. It has been great 
seeing everyone's work areas and set ups! 

Nice work on restoring that Snap-On box, Pete! Really cool. 

Wow, sharp eye, Paul. Took me a minute to locate the PATC sticker :) 

And get that vice up, Kieran! ;) 

On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 12:47:16 AM UTC-4 Kieran J wrote:

> It's on my to-do list :-P
>
> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 6:50:48 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote:
>
>> Get that vise installed! Most important tool in the shop - how else can 
>> you hacksaw rack struts? ;-)
>>
>> Laing
>>
>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: In search of brass ferrules

[Eric Marth]

Bill – I'd like a bottle of 50 to have them on hand for the future :) I do 
appreciate the idea of getting some from other board members. 

Garth's got the hook up! Thanks, Garth. Had the hardest time even after 
finding listings with a dozen small bike shops all over the US. 

Side note: Can anyone tell me why so many bike shops have almost the *exact* 
same 
website? Same template, check-out, listing format, etc. 

On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 1:39:59 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

> Here's a couple :
>
>
> https://www.spoke-n-sport.com/product/wheels-manufacturing-inc.-brass-shift-cable-housing-ferrules-341438-1.htm
>
>
> https://www.thebikehub.net/product/wheels-manufacturing-inc.-brass-shift-cable-housing-ferrules-341438-1.htm
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 9:15:31 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> How many do you need?  4? 6? 10? 100? Maybe those of us who have bought a 
>> few sets over the years can collect a few each and get you what it is you 
>> require.  
>>
>> Wheels Manufacturing lists them as a product they sell, but you have be a 
>> dealer (and they are also out of stock).  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA 
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 5:28:54 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the tip, Neal 
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 4:12:27 PM UTC-5 neal...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Analog has them listed, but they're out of stock. You might try 
 contacting the owner, James and see what their restock timeline is. He 
 posts on here or the iBob group sometimes.
 https://analogcycles.com/product/brass-ferrules/

 On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 2:38:37 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Can someone tell me where I can find 4mm brass ferrules in stock? I 
> have a bottle of 5mm ferrules from Wheels Mfg, can't find anyone stocking 
> the 4mm. 
>
> Thanks! 
>


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[RBW] Re: In search of brass ferrules

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for the tip, Neal 

On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 4:12:27 PM UTC-5 neal...@gmail.com wrote:

> Analog has them listed, but they're out of stock. You might try contacting 
> the owner, James and see what their restock timeline is. He posts on here 
> or the iBob group sometimes.
> https://analogcycles.com/product/brass-ferrules/
>
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 2:38:37 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Can someone tell me where I can find 4mm brass ferrules in stock? I have 
>> a bottle of 5mm ferrules from Wheels Mfg, can't find anyone stocking the 
>> 4mm. 
>>
>> Thanks! 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Let's see your shop and workbench

[Eric Marth]

Quite the stable, Nick!

Charlie, I've never seen a lilac Atlantis. Pretty sweet! I dig that 
Columbian bench vise

On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 9:34:35 AM UTC-5 Charlie R wrote:

> Picture was taken in 2010 and the those bikes are gone but I always get a 
> smile seeing this picture.
>
>
> [image: oldbikes (13 of 18).JPG]
>
> On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 11:00:03 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Seeing some of these bike collections makes me feel like the few I have 
>> aren’t such an indulgence. 
>>
>> As for the Russian River Brewing Company, we have several customers in 
>> their immediate neighborhood and I’m in that area occasionally. I generally 
>> stop in and pick up some beer. 
>> I’ve tried quite a few of them and I really like their Happy Hops. It’s a 
>> single IPA there’s also another one called row 2 hill 56 which is the 
>> location on a hops farm where the particular hops is grown. 
>> Another plug is for Altamont Brewing in Livermore CA. I delivered some 
>> machinery there the other day and went home with some of their brew. The 
>> Maui IPA is their flagship brew that they built their brewery on. 
>> Great group, I’ll definitely go back. Likely on bike and take BART part 
>> of the way home. 
>>
>> It seems like a lot of microbreweries have good relations with local 
>> cyclists. 
>> It would be nice if public transit improved to the point where more areas 
>> were better served. 
>>
>> Ray
>> On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 6:50:03 PM UTC-8 Nick Payne wrote:
>>
>>> This is mine in its usual somewhat chaotic state:
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20210308_023835762 - Copy.jpg]
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Let's see your shop and workbench

[Eric Marth]

Let's call it a gift, then. I regret not getting a coat of semi-transparent 
flat white primer on my plywood before I built all the tool holders and 
shelves. They're removable... maybe one day. 
On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 7:56:23 PM UTC-5 Bill Schairer wrote:

>
> Ha, thanks, Eric, but I inherited the color scheme from my wife.  I really 
> don’t have an eye for that sort of thing.
>
> Bill S
> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:29:32 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Pretty rad, Bill! I like those yellow walls and the white plywood. Not 
>> enough paint goes up in most shops. 
>>
>> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 12:12:09 PM UTC-5 Bill Schairer wrote:
>>
>>> My wife's woodshop was in the garage but she moved it to commercial 
>>> space so I converted the space to my bike shop.
>>>
>>> Bill S
>>> San Diego
>>>
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[RBW] In search of brass ferrules

[Eric Marth]

Can someone tell me where I can find 4mm brass ferrules in stock? I have a 
bottle of 5mm ferrules from Wheels Mfg, can't find anyone stocking the 4mm. 

Thanks! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Let's see your shop and workbench

[Eric Marth]

Pretty rad, Bill! I like those yellow walls and the white plywood. Not 
enough paint goes up in most shops. 

On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 12:12:09 PM UTC-5 Bill Schairer wrote:

> My wife's woodshop was in the garage but she moved it to commercial space 
> so I converted the space to my bike shop.
>
> Bill S
> San Diego
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Re: [RBW] Re: Let's see your shop and workbench

[Eric Marth]

Robert, I dig the multi-use table. Nice job with your first bench build! A 
little chain grease does wonders for an espresso. 

Yeah, Max, lubrication is critical! I've never had Pliny, always run into 
trouble finding some when I've been in California. Some day? 

On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 7:28:28 PM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> I went down the Pliny road with my boss once...neither of us were at our 
> best the next day!
>
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 4:14:55 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> PtY!  Nice!  I got to try it last year thanks to being bottled and a 
>> friend travelling for it.  I don't see myself making that kind of trip for 
>> a beer unless it's Cantillon at the source, but even then, it would be 
>> partly to ride my bike around Belgium. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 3:46 PM reynoldslugs  wrote:
>>
>>> My tooling is modest, but the lubricants are all in order.  Phil Wood 
>>> and Pliny the Younger.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_4012.JPG]
>>>
>>> Max Beach
>>> Santa Rosa CA
>>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:02:48 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I love seeing shops, tools and workbenches and thought it would be nice 
 to see where everyone works on their bikes. Here are a few views from my 
 shed. 

 [image: shed1.jpg][image: shed2.jpg]

 [image: shed4.jpg]

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Re: [RBW] Let's see your shop and workbench

[Eric Marth]

Laing, I am at a loss for words. If you ever have a yard sale, and it's 
after the pandemic, I'm making special travel arrangements! 

On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 8:32:31 AM UTC-5 James Valiensi wrote:

> I am lucky to have a house and a full garage shop. I used to make frames 
> in it. I have way too many bike tools.
> But years ago I used to live in an apartment. I had fewer tools, but bikes 
> were simpler and less was needed. Even a Campy full tool kit was more than 
> you needed to maintain bicycles. 
> I did not have a Park type work stand. I had a stand that held the rear 
> wheel up by grabbing the left seat and chain stays. It's perfect for 
> cleaning, replacing chains, adjusting. 
> My apartment had a tiny balcony, just long enough for the bike and me. 
> Thats where I’d do the dirty work, like chain cleaning. 
>
> Remarkably, bicycles require little care. If you keep them relatively 
> clean and lubed, they will roll on forever. One must to remember to clean 
> in betweem the stem & steerer tube, where sweat drips and will eventually 
> corrode the stem and steerer tube together permanently.
>
>
>
> On Mar 3, 2021, at 9:56 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
> Feeling the jealousy as a (insanely expensive) city apartment dweller!  I 
> dream of a workshop as well as a garden one day - but not here, since 
> liveable detached houses start at ~$1.6M currently in my hood. 
>
> My workshop is the bit of space between our kitchen island and our living 
> room  
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Re: [RBW] Let's see your shop and workbench

[Eric Marth]

Thanks everyone for sharing your benches. This is really cool! 

Thank you, Doug! I like to clear the bench at the end of the day, setting 
things to rights is meditative. Doesn't always happen! 

Eric, wow, looks like a lifetime of mechanical work and riding. It's funny 
how sometimes having two of the same tool comes in handy. I really like the 
custom made stem rack, that's great. And those old GP-era Bridgestone 
posters are sweet. The Grainger box means you must be really serious. (I 
love McMaster-Carr. Last time I ordered metric screws they arrived the next 
morning.) Also dig what looks like a bench for kids. 

Alan – I love the ingenuity of a hideaway bike bench. A Murphy bench? A 
concertina bench? I remember listening to Car Talk on a lot of long drives 
in the countryside. This was during the rerun era but before Tom Magliozzi 
died. Dropping the cigar reminds me of their story about the time a *car* fell 
out of their vehicle lift at the shop. 

Jason, also making do in an apartment, I dig it! Looks like you've got some 
nice plants and a cozy space, and I do spy your dog there! Also dig the 
Kitchen Aid mixer. I recently found a fully functional one at the dump. 
This about sixteen years after a friend found one on the side of the road. 

Good luck with them boiling temps, Collin! That looks like a great place to 
work when the weather's nice. Is that a brass Honjo fender? I love brass. I 
love the way it ages. Sometimes I accelerate the aging by aerating brass 
parts with white vinegar. 




On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:13:38 AM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:

> While it appears I do have more space than Jason, it primarily consists of 
> the deck outside that routinely gets above 100 F in the summer so I have to 
> plan my work routine wisely. Currently all my bits are in the closet that 
> gets pulled out and put back each time I work on the ol' bicycle, otherwise 
> I get yelled at. Bike storage is luckily indoors, in the living room of all 
> places.
> [image: IMG_20200427_160745.jpg]
>
> One day us younger people might actually be able to afford a house (laughs 
> his way to the laundromat...)
>
> Collin in Sacramento
>  
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[RBW] Re: Workshop

[Eric Marth]

It did, Alan! This pic and your post appeared in the main thread :) 

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 10:53:33 PM UTC-5 alan lavine wrote:

> Not sure first one went thru.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *Alan LaVine 
> *Subject: **Workshop*
> *Date: *March 3, 2021 at 10:27:25 PM EST
> *To: *alan 
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Birthday Bike Build and Campout

[Eric Marth]

Rad trip! Thanks for sharing :) 

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 2:18:50 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:

> Great post Tim. The orange frame with the black rims and big Schwalbe 
> G-Ones looks nice.
> Doug
>
> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 7:22:46 PM UTC-5 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>
>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:21:35 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:20:13 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>>
 On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:19:26 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:

> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:18:45 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>
>> And now for some pictures...
>>
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[RBW] Re: Let's see your shop and workbench

[Eric Marth]

This is sweet! I like your bike and bench rotation, George. And envy your 
proper work stand. Those Ikea cabinets are a big bang for the buck. If 
they're not Ikea, well, even better, probably! I had been eyeing a friend's 
old steel paper cabinets from the USPTO, thought they'd be good for tools. 

Sean, that's a nice one. Glad to hear your bench is still going strong a 
decade in. I like to thank my past self when I find stuff useful later on. 

Philip, old shop sounds great. AC and heat! My grandfather cycled through 
many partial vehicle restorations, mostly VWs (several Bugs, a van, even a 
Thing!) and also had a dune buggy for a while. Not sure of the make. I do 
love the wooden Felo drivers. Stripped mine of the factory finish and 
rubbed 'em with boiled linseed oil. Super great handle shapes. I have a 
single no. 2 JIS Phillips driver for when it's required. Congrats on your 
pending Clem :) 

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 9:42:09 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> I was restoring a 1967 Meyers Manx, pre-tag body, the genuine article. Got 
> about 80% finished & downsizing caught up with me! I had MIG, TIG & 
> Oxy-Fuel, 208V power, compressor & perhaps best of all; AC & heat...c'est 
> la vie...
>
> The new house we're building will have a fairly compact but useful garage 
> & I've saved your layout to pretty much replicate across the back wall, I 
> love how everything critical is within reach. I have those same wooden 
> screwdrivers too but once you have a JIS set there's no going back, 
> especially for Shimano, Nitto & other Japanese parts. 
>
> The gray is original, early 80's Trek, interesting that those colors are 
> so popular again today especially considering what followed immediately 
> afterwards in terms of mid-80's dayglo! I get complements literally every 
> time I ride it. The Clem Smith showing up next week will actually replace 
> this bike, though I'll be transferring some parts across including the 
> saddle.
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:27:45 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Whoa Philip, is that a dune buggy!? Looks like you had it going on out 
>> there: coffee maker, welder, compressor, I might spy a drill press, too. 
>>
>> Love the gray paint on that bike with the honey saddle and grips. 
>> Understated beauty, my kind of subtle. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 9:02:11 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That is really nice, I'm totally stealing your orga ideas. Here's what I 
>>> had prior to downsizing;
>>> [image: IMG_20190630_135353.jpg][image: IMG_20190630_135339.jpg]
>>>
>>> And here's now!
>>> [image: PXL_20210123_004846695.jpg]
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Let's see your shop and workbench

[Eric Marth]

Whoa Philip, is that a dune buggy!? Looks like you had it going on out 
there: coffee maker, welder, compressor, I might spy a drill press, too. 

Love the gray paint on that bike with the honey saddle and grips. 
Understated beauty, my kind of subtle. 

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 9:02:11 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> That is really nice, I'm totally stealing your orga ideas. Here's what I 
> had prior to downsizing;
> [image: IMG_20190630_135353.jpg][image: IMG_20190630_135339.jpg]
>
> And here's now!
> [image: PXL_20210123_004846695.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Eric Marth]

I like the Blundstone 550s for wet weather and muddy rides. I work in 
construction, they last quite a long time. I find them pretty well 
waterproof. Have worn them for years. 

I like to ride in Adidas Sambas and Bedrock sandals :) 

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:52:51 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
NY) wrote:

> I ride in Blundstones in the winter and wet weather and Vans when it's 
> sunny and above ~50 or so. The Vans are super grippy on Monarchs. The 
> Blundstones are fine if a little stiff and thick. It's hard to feel the 
> pedal in them but they offer good wind/cold/rain protection. Crocs, 
> Birkenstocks, and flipflops are great in the summer. 
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:15:19 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>
>> I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - with 
>> the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. MSRP is 
>> $100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My experience 
>> with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. For a change 
>> of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, and 
>> suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).
>>
>> --Ed C.
>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
>>> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>>>
>>> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
>>> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
>>> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few 
>>> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
>>> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>>>
>>> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
>>> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
>>> bother me all those years.
>>>
>>> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
>>> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>>>
>>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: question re frame-paint damage

[Eric Marth]

Hey Jim -- I had a similar problem and fielded some answers in this 
thread: 
https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/dKVx0QL_l_E/m/i-oS7AboCwAJ 

Mine was much worse!

On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 12:57:02 PM UTC-5 Mark Roland wrote:

> Just rub it a bit with some 00 steel wool and dab it with what you said, 
> or some primer or what have you. It will be fine, don't sweat it. I usually 
> wrap a slice of old inner tube where the clamp goes. And make sure no edge 
> is biting down, that the pressure is evenly distributed. 
> On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 7:40:35 PM UTC-5 Jim S. wrote:
>
>> So I did a dumb thing. I added a kick stand to a bike without a kickstand 
>> plate. And it messed up the paint real bad. It also slightly dented the 
>> frame. Really dumb.
>>
>> My question, and thanks in advance for any information. What should I do 
>> to prevent this from rusting? Blue nail polish? Clear enamel? I can't undo 
>> what I did, but I'd like to keep it from getting worse.
>>
>> [image: frame picture.jpg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

[Eric Marth]

Thanks jrstern, yeah, it's extreme! And part of my noodling quest for 
comfort. Figured any and every configuration is worth a shot. Thanks again 
:) 

On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 12:57:27 PM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

> Eric, those bars are tilted way low.  When I rode albatross I was always 
> far forward, why I switched to Choco, so I could reach more without a 
> change in shape, but I never angled my bars like that except for one test 
> ride where they slipped due to not being tightened enough.  I found that 
> position very uncomfortable.  
>
> Keep playing around and definitely stretch out a bit.  
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 3:46 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the replies! Shoji and Tom – I've attached a more recent 
>> picture of the bike. I do have the bars tilted down and the seat tilted 
>> back. The tilt appears exaggerated because the kickstand raises the back of 
>> the bike. 
>>
>> I think part of my problem is perhaps not leaning enough, I might be 
>> trying to sit upright and holding my head up. Need to relax, bend, let 
>> myself flex a bit more. 
>>
>> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 1:45:42 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>
>>> Something to try that made my Albatross handlebars more comfortable:  
>>> tilt down the bars a bit so the grips are slightly lower than the hoops of 
>>> the bar.
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 1:25:11 PM UTC-5 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>> Is your neck pain from extending your neck? Did you have similar pain 
>>>> when using the drop bars? Other pains/problems?
>>>>
>>>> Like you, I prefer the forward position of albatross bars-- it feels 
>>>> natural for me, perhaps since I like to lean forward.
>>>>
>>>> If you would like a more upright/cruising position to try, I suggest 
>>>> tilting the saddle nose up a little bit. The up-nose position makes me 
>>>> feel 
>>>> more comfortable sitting upright, and less comfortable leaning forward. 
>>>>
>>>> Good luck!
>>>> shoji
>>>> arlington ma
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 1:11:27 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Stumbled upon this thread and have some questions about my own 
>>>>> Albatross fitting. I converted to these bars from drops. I've yet to fall 
>>>>> in love with them and have problems with neck pain on rides longer than 
>>>>> 30 
>>>>> miles. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm on a threadless bike and have tried a few stems and configurations 
>>>>> with the same bars, a total of four positions. I have 110mm and 90mm 
>>>>> stems, 
>>>>> both with 17º rise. I've tried them with the stems flipped in both 
>>>>> configurations. I should also add that I'm on a 60cm bike that is a 
>>>>> little 
>>>>> big for me. I've got less than a fist full of seat post showing. 
>>>>>
>>>>> My current configuration is with the 110mm stem set up to give the 
>>>>> most rise. I find myself, in all configurations, favoring the grip in 
>>>>> front 
>>>>> of the brake levers. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone out there have any ideas for improved fit?
>>>>> On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 4:38:20 PM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Pete, just got the Choco bars from Blue Lug as Riv is our with 
>>>>>> no known delivery time.  I paid a $27 premium for 2 shipped so not 
>>>>>> bad.  
>>>>>> On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 12:02:21 PM UTC-5 Pete P wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I first tried upright h’bars on my older Atala bike. Just to see if 
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> would work for me. I bought Albatross bars and it was a revelation!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So on my Atlantis I ditched my noodle drop bars and chose the Choco
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bars - just for variety.  I  like both of these. (I won’t go back to 
>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> now uncomfortable drop bars). 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They both have their plusses and minuses. The Albatross are wider and
>>>>>&

[RBW] Re: History of the bicycle by Grant

[Eric Marth]

Hey Edwin – When I read your post I also thought of the link Andrew sent. 

On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 8:01:26 PM UTC-5 Andrew Schlukebier wrote:

>
> There’s this:
>
> Grant Petersen: The Big Bang Theory…of Bicycles
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VJ4jAn4v-U
> On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 5:45:49 PM UTC-5 Edwin W wrote:
>
>> I remember reading an article by Grant on the history of the bicycle, 
>> from early galactic history onwards. I can't find it in the reader index 
>> (thank you Reed) or with a basic google search.
>>
>> Can anyone point me there?
>>
>> Edwin
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr. L for Sale

[Eric Marth]

Apologies for steering things off topic but Kai has me interested in seeing 
Roberta's mustard J'Appaloosa. Can anyone point me to pictures?

On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 11:20:48 AM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> There's no finer Joe Appaloosa anywhere, folks on the hunt should get this 
> before Roberta comes to her senses and holds it tight.
> Wishing I could buy it for the parts alone. Darn 650b!
> -Kai
>
> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:32:43 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Brian, my mustard 51 cm Joe A will be on the market in a few days.   PM 
>> me if interested. Full bike only at this time. 
>>
>> Roberta in Philadelphia, PA
>>
>> On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 10:10:44 PM UTC-5 brianma...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> The business model for Rivendell is to focus on one frame group at a 
>>> time.  So it takes a couple of months to work through a container or so of 
>>> frames.  They are having the Sam Hillborne frame now so that is going to 
>>> generate the excitement for their work capacity.  It could easily be next 
>>> year before the Clem Smith Junior (H) and (L).  
>>>
>>> The variety of bicycle types and models is cool but a person who sees a 
>>> bike like my Clem Smith Jr. might have to wait a long time to find one for 
>>> themselves.  I wanted a Joe Appaloosa months ago and have not been able to 
>>> get one.
>>>
>>> That is why the secondary market is important.  When we pass our bikes 
>>> around among Rivendellers we make it possible to have or try more than one 
>>> Bicycle.
>>>
>>> This bike is really beautiful in person.  Grant says it will last a 
>>> lifetime and it is less than a year old now.
>>>
>>> Brian Oldham
>>> 916-712-1609 <(916)%20712-1609>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 4:02 AM Mark Roland  wrote:
>>>
 Nice build on one of the (rightly) most sought after models in all of 
 Rivendell. This bike with lights and fenders and comfy seat can do double 
 duty as bike that can take you just about anywhere and as your second car 
 (but way less expensive and waaay more fun.) I don't think the Clem Ls are 
 due again for some time?

 On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 1:50:12 AM UTC-5 brianma...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hi. 
>
> 52 frame size
>
> Brian O
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 05:58 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
> thesix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Frame size?
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 1:23:07 AM UTC-5 brianma...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all, 
>>> for I bought a Clem Smith Jr. last September and have ridden and 
>>> enjoyed it but now it is time to sell.  This bike has been upgraded as 
>>> follows"
>>>
>>> generator hub and light
>>>
>>> better Shimano pedals
>>>
>>> better seat  Brooks B67S
>>>
>>> rivendell handle bar treatment,  shellacked bar tape and cork grips
>>>
>>> The bicycle is in very good shape 
>>>
>>> I paid $1,600 for a complete bike and the upgrades added to the cost.
>>>
>>> Asking price is $1,500 or you have a different offer.
>>>
>>> Brian Oldham
>>> 916-712-1609 <(916)%20712-1609>
>>>
>>> San Carlos, Ca. 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Anyone missing a Romulus in So Cal?

[Eric Marth]

Gotta love that vintage "Road bile"!

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 8:47:50 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I have so many questions about what happened to the headtube and top of 
> seatlug 
>
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 5:11:00 PM UTC-8 Jim M. wrote:
>
>> https://offerup.com/item/detail/1068335445/
>> Ad smells a bit funny, but you do get a "500 doller headset".
>>
>> Also this ad: https://offerup.com/item/detail/1068335445/
>> which offers "Fully Loaded With Campanaro italian Parts"
>>
>> jim m
>> walnut creek, ca
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Susie/Wolbis, medium, blue

[Eric Marth]

Like your other builds this is a beautiful one, Sal. Hoping it finds its 
next rider soon. 

Also, thank you for the great bikes, builds, travels, pics and more that 
you've put out into the world. 

I'm purchasing a passel of stickers :) 

On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 5:17:19 PM UTC-5 Sal wrote:

> Very lightly used medium Wolbis in RBW blue. As shown minus wheel set and 
> crankset/pedals for $2600 plus shipping. It would be nice to sell it as 
> described as a near-complete bicycle, but I'll go to the trouble of parting 
> it out if you want to pay $1800 for frame/fork/headset, or $2175 for 
> frame/fork/headset/brakes. Not currently interested in selling individual 
> components and not open to trades. I'm not in the habit of accepting goods 
> as payment but I made an exception for this bike. I love it, obviously, but 
> I want it to turn into money now.
>
> Components include XTR M960 rd, suntour power ratchet shifter, custom Paul 
> Motolites (gold drive side, blue non drive side, alternating green and pink 
> adjusters), tosco bull moose bars (on an adapter). The saddle in the photo 
> is a titanium-railed B-17 that's been sewn together for tightness though 
> the leather is still nice and firm. It's included in the whole package if 
> you want it. This is a very lightly used bicycle that will feel almost new 
> to you. It has one small paint chip (email for pics) and one sticker that 
> says "all my friends hate cops" over the NDS chainstay graphics. If that 
> offends you you'll have to remove it yourself.
>
> Located in Portland, OR... once the ice melts I can deliver locally. Open 
> to shipping (through bike shop or in original frame box depending on the 
> configuration purchased)
>
> Please email directly if seriously interested for more info/pictures.
> [image: wolbis-9407.jpg]
> [image: wolbis-9389.jpg]
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Dia-Compe Gran Compe Brake Levers

[Eric Marth]

I'll take 'em, if available and not previously sold to another kind cycler 
who frequents this forum. 

On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 4:54:18 PM UTC-5 David Person wrote:

> Drilled Gran Compe Brake Levers.  Excellent condition,  Ridden only a 
> couple times.  They were on the bike for about a week.  Switched to 
> Albatross bars, from the Nitto B115s these levers were installed on.
>
> $50.00 shipped (CONUS)[image: Gran Compe1.jpeg][image: Gran Compe2.jpeg]
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Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for the alert, Dave! Been looking forward to seeing the redesign. 
Striding in the right direction :) 

A few thoughts follow. 

*Homepage photographs*
I really dig the wild, free, low-light, long exposure photographs here. And 
I generally really dig and admire the idea that a place that sells 
incredible bikes has a front page where you can't even really see the 
frames. 

*Product pages*
I'm glad that you can finally see things in bigger and better resolution. A 
lot of these pictures are way way way crispier than on the old site. The 
mouse-over function on the old version never worked for me. I find that the 
huge, long column of text is a bit tricky to parse and difficult to read. 
Would it be possible to have a gallery of product pictures towards the top 
with the text below, with the text running the full width of the page?

*Category pages*
I would find it easier to browse if all of the products were displayed in a 
grid with each shown at the same size. Easier to scan, allows the eye to 
follow a straight line. 

*Restock email alerts*
Gotta have these alerts

*Newly updated/added*
Would it be possible to have a page where newly added and updated and 
restocked items could appear together? Crust does this and I appreciate it. 
I've noticed another Crust comparison above, they did a nice job. But their 
site is almost entirely a store, without the blog, news feed and tons of 
articles and information to incorporate. I appreciate Will's re-stock 
updates! 

*Staff bikes*
I have always dug this page and wish it was more actively updated! Looking 
forward to the return. 

*Article page*
This could be organized a bit better, perhaps with headings for categories 
with individual articles bulleted below. Having to click into each 
sub-category page is a little cumbersome. 

*Sizing and geo page*
The chart is large! I can zoom in using the zoom function in my browser or 
right click to view at full size but on my MacBook the chart displays at a 
size that is small and pixelated and unreadable without user-end 
manipulation. 
On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 1:37:20 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:

> On the old site, Email when back in stock would never deliver to my Apple 
> email account, only my work one. Wouldn’t show in junk folder either
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 10:18:23 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> I'll spend some time getting used to it before commenting but one thing I 
>> noticed is the geometry chart is compressed a bit too much and isn't really 
>> legible - though right-click and open in a new window solves that issue :) 
>>
>> The old website was endearing but was certainly in need of a refresh! 
>
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Re: [RBW] Wool bandanas?

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Shawn. This is helpful!

On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 10:27:06 PM UTC-5 Shawn Granton wrote:

> Smartwool makes one:
> https://www.smartwool.com/shop/merino-150-bandana-sw005504
> Dimensions aren't listed (thank you, "One Size") but it looks to be 
> standard bandana size.
>
> I have a couple of Icebreaker merino bandanas I picked up several years 
> ago at Sierra Trading Post. It doesn't look like Icebreaker makes 'em 
> anymore, which is a shame. I really like mine.
>
> Best,
> Shawn
>
> On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 6:45:02 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Curtis! It would be perfect if it wasn't printed with a logo. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 6:58:59 PM UTC-5 Curtis wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This one may tick a few of your boxes.  I have no experience with this 
>>> item.
>>> https://www.woolsleepingbag.com/product/merino-bandana/
>>>
>>> Enjoy,
>>>
>>> Curtis
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2021, 11:29 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyone out there know of a maker or vendor of wool bandanas? I'm 
>>>> talking about 20x20" squares of wool, similar to a standard cotton 
>>>> bandana. 
>>>>
>>>> Tom Bihn had something called the Shepherd's Wool Utility Cloth 
>>>> <https://www.tombihn.com/collections/new/products/wool-utility-cloth> 
>>>> which came in some very nice colors and seemed perfect. Apparently more of 
>>>> these coming in the spring. 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the help
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Wool bandanas?

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Curtis! It would be perfect if it wasn't printed with a logo. 

On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 6:58:59 PM UTC-5 Curtis wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This one may tick a few of your boxes.  I have no experience with this 
> item.
> https://www.woolsleepingbag.com/product/merino-bandana/
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Curtis
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2021, 11:29 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Anyone out there know of a maker or vendor of wool bandanas? I'm talking 
>> about 20x20" squares of wool, similar to a standard cotton bandana. 
>>
>> Tom Bihn had something called the Shepherd's Wool Utility Cloth 
>> <https://www.tombihn.com/collections/new/products/wool-utility-cloth> 
>> which came in some very nice colors and seemed perfect. Apparently more of 
>> these coming in the spring. 
>>
>> Thanks for the help
>>
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[RBW] Wool bandanas?

[Eric Marth]

Anyone out there know of a maker or vendor of wool bandanas? I'm talking 
about 20x20" squares of wool, similar to a standard cotton bandana. 

Tom Bihn had something called the Shepherd's Wool Utility Cloth 
 which 
came in some very nice colors and seemed perfect. Apparently more of these 
coming in the spring. 

Thanks for the help

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[RBW] Re: FS: Saddlesack medium, poster, levers, clothes, odd, ends, etc.

[Eric Marth]

The Kucharik tights have sold

On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 9:32:11 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> Hi all – I have a few things for sale. Please email me directly about 
> purchases. Thanks!
>
> Pictures are here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/zCe2GidtE6gdsFgU6
>
>
> *Rivendell Saddlesack Medium, olive green – $200 plus shipping to you*This 
> is an original-issue Saddlesack in size medium and has never been installed 
> on a bike. New old stock. Leather is clean and crease-free. Wax olive green 
> canvas. There is a little bit of wear at the edges, you know the way waxed 
> canvas can fade a bit. The brass is showing a bit of patina and has 
> darkened with age. With the old riveted metal plate, this one is number 
> 00083. Coroplast sheet in the bottom. 
>
>
> *Rivendell David Lance Goines poster – $15 plus shipping to you*This has 
> never been mounted. It was received and stored rolled. Super heavy paper, 
> high quality print. From the ubiquitous Bay Area designer you know and love 
> from Chez Panisse cookbooks, menus and posters. Picture borrowed from 
> John’s etsy. Will ship rolled. 
>
>
> *All City cross levers – $10 plus shipping to you*In-line levers for 
> caliper or canti brakes. For clamp diameter of 31.8, shims for 26.0 bars 
> included. 
>
>
> *Tektro Aero Brake Levers RL340 – $15 plus shipping to you*These will 
> work with caliper or canti brakes. Hoods have some wear, screen-printed 
> Tektro label partially worn away. Sorry if you’re really into sporting a 
> nice, clean, crisp TEKTRO label on your levers. 
>
>
> *Bondhus 4mm ball-end driver – $5 plus shipping to you *Made in US 
> ball-end driver for bottle cages, mostly. 
>
>
> *Pletscher kickstand hardware – $5 plus shipping to you *One new plate 
> (black), one new bolt, two new plastic spacer/sandwich bits. One used 
> plate, one used spacer. The bolt was greased and installed in a kickstand 
> off the bike but never mounted. Bolt is uncut. 
>
>
> *Summer gloves, size XL – $10 plus shipping to you*Recently purchased 
> from Rivendell. These have 40 miles on them. They’re just a little too 
> small for me. 
>
>
> *Kucharik wool tights – $40 plus shipping to you*Black wool tights. With 
> a leather chamois, 9-inch zipper at the leg cuff, cotton drawstring 
> closure. These are in fair shape, some holes in the seat and in the area 
> opposite the seat. I’ve done my best to show the holes. I think they 
> actually don’t go all the way through, but almost. Lots of life and use 
> left in them! I would keep them if they fit me. They are labeled a medium 
> but I’d say they’re like a small. The waist laid flat is 15” (with a few 
> inches of stretch), inseam is 31”. 
>
>
> *Van Heusen seersucker shirt, medium – $5 plus shipping to you*A nice 
> seersucker in white and what looks to me like gray stripes. It’s 21” from 
> pit to pit and 31” from top of collar to bottom hem. There may be a small 
> hole somewhere. Button collar. Made in Indonesia. Label says “100% 
> seersucker” which I take to mean all cotton. 
>
>
> *Chums glasses straps / “Eyewear retainers” – $9 for all three plus 
> shipping to you*Black, white/grey stripe and tangerine. Brand new, 
> standard length. Made in USA. 
>

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[RBW] FS: Saddlesack medium, poster, levers, clothes, odd, ends, etc.

[Eric Marth]

 

Hi all – I have a few things for sale. Please email me directly about 
purchases. Thanks!

Pictures are here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/zCe2GidtE6gdsFgU6


*Rivendell Saddlesack Medium, olive green – $200 plus shipping to you*This 
is an original-issue Saddlesack in size medium and has never been installed 
on a bike. New old stock. Leather is clean and crease-free. Wax olive green 
canvas. There is a little bit of wear at the edges, you know the way waxed 
canvas can fade a bit. The brass is showing a bit of patina and has 
darkened with age. With the old riveted metal plate, this one is number 
00083. Coroplast sheet in the bottom. 


*Rivendell David Lance Goines poster – $15 plus shipping to you*This has 
never been mounted. It was received and stored rolled. Super heavy paper, 
high quality print. From the ubiquitous Bay Area designer you know and love 
from Chez Panisse cookbooks, menus and posters. Picture borrowed from 
John’s etsy. Will ship rolled. 


*All City cross levers – $10 plus shipping to you*In-line levers for 
caliper or canti brakes. For clamp diameter of 31.8, shims for 26.0 bars 
included. 


*Tektro Aero Brake Levers RL340 – $15 plus shipping to you*These will work 
with caliper or canti brakes. Hoods have some wear, screen-printed Tektro 
label partially worn away. Sorry if you’re really into sporting a nice, 
clean, crisp TEKTRO label on your levers. 


*Bondhus 4mm ball-end driver – $5 plus shipping to you *Made in US ball-end 
driver for bottle cages, mostly. 


*Pletscher kickstand hardware – $5 plus shipping to you *One new plate 
(black), one new bolt, two new plastic spacer/sandwich bits. One used 
plate, one used spacer. The bolt was greased and installed in a kickstand 
off the bike but never mounted. Bolt is uncut. 


*Summer gloves, size XL – $10 plus shipping to you*Recently purchased from 
Rivendell. These have 40 miles on them. They’re just a little too small for 
me. 


*Kucharik wool tights – $40 plus shipping to you*Black wool tights. With a 
leather chamois, 9-inch zipper at the leg cuff, cotton drawstring closure. 
These are in fair shape, some holes in the seat and in the area opposite 
the seat. I’ve done my best to show the holes. I think they actually don’t 
go all the way through, but almost. Lots of life and use left in them! I 
would keep them if they fit me. They are labeled a medium but I’d say 
they’re like a small. The waist laid flat is 15” (with a few inches of 
stretch), inseam is 31”. 


*Van Heusen seersucker shirt, medium – $5 plus shipping to you*A nice 
seersucker in white and what looks to me like gray stripes. It’s 21” from 
pit to pit and 31” from top of collar to bottom hem. There may be a small 
hole somewhere. Button collar. Made in Indonesia. Label says “100% 
seersucker” which I take to mean all cotton. 


*Chums glasses straps / “Eyewear retainers” – $9 for all three plus 
shipping to you*Black, white/grey stripe and tangerine. Brand new, standard 
length. Made in USA. 

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[RBW] Re: Hands on Wheels Tee Shirt

[Eric Marth]

Wow, Rich, the new website looks great. I don't have any of your 
wheels...yet! Shirts looks great, and like Joe, I dig your logo. 

On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 4:21:58 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> That's a cool shirt, I've always liked your logo. I got the wheels now I'm 
> gettin' the t-shirt!
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 12:41:09 PM UTC-8 Rich Lesnik wrote:
>
>> I've recently had tee shirts printed with the Hands on Wheels label/logo. 
>> You can see a (mediocre) photo at: www.handsonwheels.com, under the "for 
>> sale" page.
>>
>> Rich Lesnik
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[Eric Marth]

Available from Rene Herse 
https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tools/nitto-bike-stand/

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 1:53:44 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Nitto C2 display stand. Riv used to 
> sell it (or something similar). Gets the back end elevated. Doesn't solve 
> the problem of getting your bike up to a comfortable working height, 
> though. 
>
> Here it is in a page from Catalog No. 6, Spring-Summer 2000. 
>
> [image: IMG_2AF05D436B61-1.jpeg]
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 11:22:39 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>
>> Efficient Velo Tools makes a stand with a pulley and counterweight that 
>> allows you to put the clamp on the bike while it is on the floor, then 
>> raise it. Down sides - $2750, eight month wait, and NOT portable. 
>>
>> https://www.efficientvelo.com/tools/ez-lift-repair-stand
>>
>> I want one, but will have to "make do" with the Park Shop Stand. 
>> Previously, I worked on bikes on the floor or one of these for over 40 
>> years .
>>
>> [image: s-l300.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 11:00:58 AM UTC-5 Ana Candela wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Leah,
>>>
>>> I am currently selling my two bike stands: one is the one Riv sells 
>>> (about 2 years old); the other, a Feedback mid range model (about 6-8 years 
>>> old?). I'm selling them locally because shipping would be a downside (I 
>>> would think at least $40),  but I'm open to negotiation. They're both 
>>> great, but I'm selling because I need a third hand to set my bike on them, 
>>> and that's something you may want to consider when getting a. stand, 
>>> whatever model you choose. I can't carry my bike with one hand while 
>>> affixing the clamp with the other. I've hurt my bike and myself in the 
>>> process, and I'm looking for a different kind of stand, but apparently it 
>>> doesn't exist yet, unless I want a huge hydraulic stand for e-bikes. Why 
>>> can't they make a version of a car/moped jack for bikes? Way cheaper and 
>>> even way less cumbersome.
>>>
>>> Anyway, if you're interested, I can send pics.
>>>
>>> -Ana
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 7:04:27 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, that got your attention. 
>>>>
>>>> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had 
>>>> it with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
>>>> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
>>>> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage 
>>>> tonight. 
>>>> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
>>>> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
>>>> stand against not having a stand.
>>>>
>>>> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and 
>>>> also $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>>>>
>>>> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that 
>>>> takes up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. 
>>>> (Not 
>>>> the frame.)
>>>>
>>>> You’re the best!
>>>> Leah
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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Re: [RBW] Chainstay dimples and kickstand kisses

[Eric Marth]

Thanks again to all for input and replies.

And thanks to Dave S for recommending the frame-specific kickstand plates. 
Got a pair, they work great. Part of the trouble with the existing plate 
(installed by previous owner or their mechanic) is that it was a modified 
Pletscher plate. Had to be modified to clear the chainrings. 

I removed the stand because it was super stiff and it wasn't closing. I dry 
brushed it and then blasted it with penetrating oil, which is disgusting. I 
then cleaned it as well as I could with several passes with brushes, rags 
and compressed air. Then appleid some Boeshield. 

I touched up the frame damage shown in the original post by lightly sanding 
and then applied some Testors. I wrapped some Newbaums on the stays and 
carefully re-installed the kickstand. It works like a new kickstand with 
lots of snap and a feather touch to open and close. 
On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 11:04:37 AM UTC-5 Mark Roland wrote:

> I have a double kickstand on my El Clem, sans sandwich. No problem so far, 
> though I heard some early kickstand plates on other models were susceptible 
> to breaking or bending. I have a Hubbuh as well, but I do not like 
> kickstands on tandems, prefer to lean. My Susie has a place holder, aka  
> "kickstandholeplugmonkey "
>
> [image: IMG_20201101_075648061.jpg]
> [image: IMG_20201023_082239488.jpg]
> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 9:55:26 AM UTC-5 Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>
>> I have a HubbuHubbuH tandem with a kickstand plate. I found that when I 
>> added the upper part of the "sandwich" that there was SUBSTANTIALLY more 
>> stability to the kickstand.  Loaded with panniers, I was convinced that the 
>> kickstand plate alone would have been torn off. YRMV
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 6:20:00 AM UTC-6 Mark Roland wrote:
>>
>>> Does installing the kickstand with the upper part of the "sandwich" 
>>> confer some benefit--maybe spreading the stress load a bit more? I thought 
>>> having a brazed on kickstand plate like Rivs (and this Surly) have 
>>> eliminated the need for that top clamp. 
>>>
>>> I agree the bike should be fine with those dimples. Long term, if the 
>>> paint was compromised, it may start to rust in that spot and eventually be 
>>> an issue. But even without attention, should last till most of us are no 
>>> longer concerned about it.
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 12:36:21 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> P.S. My Soma Saga came with a kickstand installed, and whoever built 
>>>> the bike (probably American Cyclery in SF) used thick rubber between the 
>>>> kickstand and the frame to prevent dimpling of the top of the chain stays 
>>>> (there’s a kickstand plate on the bottom).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --Eric Norris
>>>> campyo...@me.com
>>>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy  
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 28, 2020, at 8:27 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Iecently removed my Pletscher bipod kickstand and noticed some 
>>>> mutilation to my chainstays. Pictured below is my LHT, the kickstand was 
>>>> installed by the previous owner. The sight brought to mind Grant's warning 
>>>> on the kickstand hardware listing: "This is one of those terribly useful 
>>>> aftermarket problem solvers that can save the day or wreck your frame, 
>>>> depending on how you attach it." 
>>>>
>>>> Just how bad is this? Cause for concern or shall I carry on? 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your collective wisdom. 
>>>>
>>>> 
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[RBW] Re: Completing the Rivendell catalog archive

[Eric Marth]

After some research and consultation with John Bennett I have determined 
(decided?) that the collection of Rivendell catalogs I posted is indeed a 
full run. In looking at completed auctions, blog posts and completed sales 
including Bike Tinker's "Rivendell Propaganda" post and sale as well as the 
Bike Recyclery Riv/Bstone lot, I can't find evidence of catalogs that I 
don't have. 

There are some numbering irregularities that lead to a bit of confusion. 
The second catalog is labeled Number 3. And it seems the count was lost 
somewhere along the line. While the most recent catalog is "The twentieth 
catalog," there are only 18 total catalogs. If you consider my pictures of 
the catalog run you can disregard the 2018 frames catalog (horizontal 
layout, illustrated cover). 

Thanks to all for the help and if anyone has information to contribute or 
theories to disprove please let me know. 

On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 12:52:09 PM UTC-5 Paul Richardson wrote:

> not the host of the archive, but a happy and frequent user of it.
>
> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 11:01:14 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I've considered it and think it would be valuable to those interested. 
>> Some great articles and gear not to mention heartbreaking prices of yore. 
>>
>> Do you host the readers archive? 
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 2:45:26 PM UTC-5 Paul Richardson wrote:
>>
>>> would you ever consider digitizing them and adding to the readers 
>>> archive ?  i know it'd be a ton of 
>>> work...
>>>
>>> paul
>>> takoma park, md.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 2, 2021 at 7:00:51 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, Pete. I've got that one! Crazy and fun

 On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 3:27:26 PM UTC-5 Pete B wrote:

> Eric, keep an eye out for the "Hiawathan Holidays" catalogs. I have 
> the second one, 22 pages on newsprint. It's notable because the 
> descriptions for each item in the catalog are written in verse. Pics 
> below.
>
> Pete
> Arlington, VA
>
> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 9:13:21 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> As some of you may have noticed from my previous posts this year, I'm 
>> attempting to catalog a full run of Rivendell catalogs. For now I am 
>> focussed only on catalogs and not attending to flyers and bike 
>> announcements. Here are pictures of what I've amassed so far. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_3061.jpg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_3062.JPG]
>>
>> I'm unsure what's missing and hopeful that some stray members can 
>> help fill in the gaps. At this point I'm trying to get some kind of 
>> record 
>> of what I'm missing. I would be interested to purchase missing catalogs 
>> as 
>> well. 
>>
>> This is tricky as the catalogs were dated, then dated and numbered, 
>> then dated, and then numbered. From what I can tell I am missing the 
>> first 
>> catalog and perhaps another somewhere down the line. 
>>
>> Things get fuzzy late in the run. Catalog 19 is undated but has a the 
>> tweed Nigel Smythe borders of the previous two catalogs, suggesting 
>> somewhere around 2007. I had assumed that the undated 20th catalog 
>> (black 
>> and white cover) is the most recent. But then there's the 2018 bicycles 
>> and 
>> frames catalog which is unnumbered, suggesting this is the 21st.
>>
>> Thanks again for input and wisdom. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Found Wheel in Seattle

[Eric Marth]

Pretty wild not only for this wheel to end up on the sidewalk but for 
someone who know what it was to call Rich! Hopeful for the wheel's reunion 
with its bike. 

On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 4:22:43 PM UTC-5 Rich Lesnik wrote:

>
> I just got a call from a fellow who found a Deore XT/Dyad 700/36 wheel 
> with the Hands on Wheels sticker. Just lying on the sidewalk. If anyone in 
> the Seattle Area (found in the Magnolia neighborhood) lost a bike or wheel 
> like that, let me know and I'll give you his number. Nice guy, used to work 
> at Ocean Cyclery in SF.
>

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[RBW] Re: Found Wheel in Seattle

[Eric Marth]

Pretty wild not only for this wheel to end up on the sidewalk but for 
someone to know what it was to call Rich! Hopeful for the wheel's reunion 
with its bike. 

On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 4:22:43 PM UTC-5 Rich Lesnik wrote:

>
> I just got a call from a fellow who found a Deore XT/Dyad 700/36 wheel 
> with the Hands on Wheels sticker. Just lying on the sidewalk. If anyone in 
> the Seattle Area (found in the Magnolia neighborhood) lost a bike or wheel 
> like that, let me know and I'll give you his number. Nice guy, used to work 
> at Ocean Cyclery in SF.
>

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[RBW] Re: Cutting rack stays

[Eric Marth]

For some reason this stuck in my head as "fender stays," which I cut with a 
pair of Knipex diagonal cutters and finish with a file. 

For the much more robusto rack stays: +1 on the bandsaw and belt sander if 
you have access! 

On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 7:22:50 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Whelp, I have this shiny new RBW51 rack with way-long stays and I can't 
> get the search feature here to work so how do I cut these suckers? 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Paul touring cantis

[Eric Marth]

Thanks all, purchase pending! 

On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 1:48:07 PM UTC-5 saintruggler wrote:

> PM sent.
>
> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 2:13:05 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> If anyone has a set of Paul touring cantis for two wheels that they'd be 
>> willing to part with please hit me up! 
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Paul touring cantis

[Eric Marth]

If anyone has a set of Paul touring cantis for two wheels that they'd be 
willing to part with please hit me up! 

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[RBW] WTT: XL summer gloves for XXXL summer gloves

[Eric Marth]

Recently picked up a pair of summer gloves from Riv but the XLs I picked up 
are too small for me. If someone made a mistake and got some XXLs that were 
too big, let's trade! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tell me about your super-wide drops

[Eric Marth]

Wow, thanks for the considerable insight, everyone! I really appreciate the 
assessments, personal histories, preferences and the rest. 

I'm currently running Albatross bars but find I most often ride in the 
forward position of the bars, in front of the brake levers. It's nice to 
take the full upright position to change the grip and riding posture but 
I'm finding it is my least favorite grip. I do love the look of the bars, 
can't deny it and won't try to hide it. 

The bike I have now is a little big for me, I can *just* stand over it. Not 
much seatpost showing (similar, perhaps, to the too-big Sam that Grant 
wrote about in one of the readers). When I first bought it there were some 
45cm drops installed, the widest I'd tried to that point. I thought they 
were pretty groovy and almost felt great. But the stem was way too long and 
I had become possessed of the idea of trying out Albatross bars. 

Of the big bars out there the Nitto/Crust Shaka bars have my attention. As 
others have mentioned the cost and time involved in a swap is considerable. 

Thanks again to everyone for sharing. 
On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 4:56:04 PM UTC-5 ryan.merri...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I have a Crust Towel Rack bar on a cyclocross bike. I like it, but I have 
> gradually moved my bars on most of my bikes over to Albatross bars or 
> Bullmoose bars because I prefer mtb brake levers. 
>
> The wide drop bar really is comfortable and allows a lot of control of the 
> bike in grass, mud, and rocky terrain. The wide tops are almost like riding 
> a short flat bar
>  and when in the drops you really get a lot of control. It has been my 
> experience that you really have to use a really short stem to make these 
> bars comfortable though. On the Crust Towel rack, I find the bends of the 
> bar to be quite comfortable and don't get any wrist or hand pain. 
> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 12:57:43 PM UTC-6 john...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> The difference between ultra-wide drops and wide MTB bars is that wide 
>> MTB bars have been mainstream for a while now. Pretty much every MTB I see 
>> these days has
>> very wide bars. Shops sell them and are able to help with setup. Other 
>> riders can also advise. Here in the EU at least, ultra wide drops are still 
>> a bit niche. You need to go online
>> to get them, and to get advice on them. I am the only person near me who 
>> rides with them, and my MTB friends think I'm weird. So I had to do my own 
>> experiments with setup and ergonomics, and I can't really be sure I'm 
>> getting things right, apart from the feedback my arms, back and wrists give 
>> me. I'm glad I didn't give up on wide drops after some initial weirdness, 
>> but it took some patience to find the right ones. YMMV.
>>
>> As for alt-bars, a lot of those seem very similar to older designs like 
>> the German stuttgarter or French Toulouse bar that people have been riding 
>> for decades, so they are not entirely new territory. 
>>
>> The main benefits I've found to wide drops for off road are, first, mud: 
>> I seem to get less bogged down in muddy sections with wider drops, and, 
>> second, steeper, fairly technical climbs. Riding a steep climb in the drops 
>> gives me a more confident grip than either flat bars or barends, and more 
>> leverage than narrower drops. I'm not exactly a 'gnarly' rider by an 
>> stretch of the imagination. I have no idea if wide drops would be a good 
>> idea for drop-offs or other more extreme riding.
>>
>> On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 at 19:30, Ben Miller  wrote:
>>
>>> I like Collins point with one correction: "The main point I think is 
>>> that *handlebars* are kinda like saddles." 
>>>
>>> As a person who loves drop bars but has always hated how narrow they 
>>> are, I love the recent developments. I own the Crust Towelrack (v2 - Full 
>>> size at 670 mm) and the Crust x Nitto Shaka bar (520 mm). Wide drop bars 
>>> are great for really maximizing different hand positions (so many!) This is 
>>> my main reason for liking them. I heartily disagree with anyone who 
>>> questions their ergonomics, even a little. The Nitto Mustache is 515 mm, 
>>> the Rivendell Albastache is 555 mm, and the Riv Billie 580 mm, and the 
>>> Bullmoose 670 mm! And modern MTB bars are even larger. No one complains 
>>> about those being based upon "ergonomics that haven't been tested 
>>> properly." 
>>>
>>> Personally, I have never liked alt-bars (Albatross, Bullmoose, etc), 
>>> though I love the look of them. But that is me! If you want a wide bar and 
>>> like not having drops, get some alts. If you want a narrow bar and drops 
>>> you're all set. And now, if you've been jonesing for a wide bar with drops, 
>>> you're time has come! I don't think there is much mystery to it. Yes you 
>>> can fit a larger bag, but too me that shouldn't be a reason to get 
>>> handlebars (though it is a nice benefit to wide bars). I'm also middling 
>>> about the off-road aspect. I've never felt like 440 mm noddles 

[RBW] Re: Completing the Rivendell catalog archive

[Eric Marth]

I've considered it and think it would be valuable to those interested. Some 
great articles and gear not to mention heartbreaking prices of yore. 

Do you host the readers archive? 

On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 2:45:26 PM UTC-5 Paul Richardson wrote:

> would you ever consider digitizing them and adding to the readers archive 
> ?  i know it'd be a ton of work...
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
>
> On Saturday, January 2, 2021 at 7:00:51 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Pete. I've got that one! Crazy and fun
>>
>> On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 3:27:26 PM UTC-5 Pete B wrote:
>>
>>> Eric, keep an eye out for the "Hiawathan Holidays" catalogs. I have the 
>>> second one, 22 pages on newsprint. It's notable because the descriptions 
>>> for each item in the catalog are written in verse. Pics below.
>>>
>>> Pete
>>> Arlington, VA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 9:13:21 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 As some of you may have noticed from my previous posts this year, I'm 
 attempting to catalog a full run of Rivendell catalogs. For now I am 
 focussed only on catalogs and not attending to flyers and bike 
 announcements. Here are pictures of what I've amassed so far. 

 [image: IMG_3061.jpg]

 [image: IMG_3062.JPG]

 I'm unsure what's missing and hopeful that some stray members can help 
 fill in the gaps. At this point I'm trying to get some kind of record of 
 what I'm missing. I would be interested to purchase missing catalogs as 
 well. 

 This is tricky as the catalogs were dated, then dated and numbered, 
 then dated, and then numbered. From what I can tell I am missing the first 
 catalog and perhaps another somewhere down the line. 

 Things get fuzzy late in the run. Catalog 19 is undated but has a the 
 tweed Nigel Smythe borders of the previous two catalogs, suggesting 
 somewhere around 2007. I had assumed that the undated 20th catalog (black 
 and white cover) is the most recent. But then there's the 2018 bicycles 
 and 
 frames catalog which is unnumbered, suggesting this is the 21st.

 Thanks again for input and wisdom. 

>>>

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[RBW] Tell me about your super-wide drops

[Eric Marth]

Big, wide drops seem to be everywhere these days, even here in the group! 
I've noticed some for sale and others used in builds. Rather than read 
through another dull review in some unfamiliar corner of the internet I 
wanted to see if anyone in the group could share some firsthand experience. 
How does it feel running those > 50cm drop bars?

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[RBW] Re: No Group Pinning? Added "RBW-Ephemera" Tag. "Subscribe" is a thing

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for tags, Jim, much appreciate it! 

On Saturday, January 2, 2021 at 2:05:48 PM UTC-5 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> Just because I wasn't too clear in the first post above:
>
> "RBW-History" is now a LABEL you can use when discussing company/bike/bike 
> model history.
> "RBW-Ephemera" is a LABEL you can use to tag threads discussing Readers, 
> GP Books, Catalogs, Flyers and other printed RBW material.
> "transactions-sell-buy-trade" us a LABEL you can use to highlight items 
> you are selling/wtb'ing/trading
>
> - J
>
> On Saturday, January 2, 2021 at 10:28:53 AM UTC-8 Erik Wright wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the problem solving, Jim. I noticed the same thing yesterday 
>> when I wanted to dig into some Rivendell Readers and noticed that Reed's 
>> collection is no longer pinned at the top. Hopefully Google sorts this out, 
>> but if not, the tag is a reasonable workaround.
>>
>> Erik, Philly
>>
>> On Saturday, January 2, 2021 at 1:04:37 PM UTC-5 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>>
>>> Hey there and best wishes for a Happy New Year.
>>>
>>> Was enjoying the Rivendell catalog archive thread which Eric started and 
>>> tried to pin the topic so it wouldn't get buried under a swath of FS posts. 
>>> Suddenly realized that the new (well..."newer" as it's been in place for a 
>>> while now) Google Groups interface seems to have removed my ability to pin 
>>> posts to the top of the group. I've put in a mention of it through the 
>>> "Report Bugs" tool, but that's likely gone the way of all things. 
>>>
>>> It did encourage me to add a second LABEL to this group. In this case, 
>>> "RBW-Emphemera". This is a quick tag to use to separate out all the printed 
>>> material which GP and the gang have produced. If you are discussing 
>>> catalogs, mailers, flyers, bicycle announcements, etc., please use the 
>>> Label to make it easier to find. 
>>>
>>> I've Labeled the recent "Completing the Rivendell catalog archive" 
>>> thread, as well as the earlier Readers archive. 
>>>
>>> I had scanned and accumulated a few things on the Cyclofiend.com RBW 
>>> page - 
>>> https://cyclofiend.com/rbw/
>>>
>>> I'm also adding "RBW-History" for the various model/year threads and 
>>> discussions.
>>>
>>> When I was poking at all the menus looking for the nonexistent PIN 
>>> option, I did remind myself that there is now a "SUBSCRIBE" option for 
>>> threads. It defaults to ON when you start a thread, but if there is a 
>>> specific thread you want to follow, you can choose to do so through a quick 
>>> mouse click (or finger tap).
>>>
>>> Here's to great rides. 
>>>
>>> - Jim / admin
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Completing the Rivendell catalog archive

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Pete. I've got that one! Crazy and fun

On Friday, January 1, 2021 at 3:27:26 PM UTC-5 Pete B wrote:

> Eric, keep an eye out for the "Hiawathan Holidays" catalogs. I have the 
> second one, 22 pages on newsprint. It's notable because the descriptions 
> for each item in the catalog are written in verse. Pics below.
>
> Pete
> Arlington, VA
>
> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 9:13:21 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> As some of you may have noticed from my previous posts this year, I'm 
>> attempting to catalog a full run of Rivendell catalogs. For now I am 
>> focussed only on catalogs and not attending to flyers and bike 
>> announcements. Here are pictures of what I've amassed so far. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_3061.jpg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_3062.JPG]
>>
>> I'm unsure what's missing and hopeful that some stray members can help 
>> fill in the gaps. At this point I'm trying to get some kind of record of 
>> what I'm missing. I would be interested to purchase missing catalogs as 
>> well. 
>>
>> This is tricky as the catalogs were dated, then dated and numbered, then 
>> dated, and then numbered. From what I can tell I am missing the first 
>> catalog and perhaps another somewhere down the line. 
>>
>> Things get fuzzy late in the run. Catalog 19 is undated but has a the 
>> tweed Nigel Smythe borders of the previous two catalogs, suggesting 
>> somewhere around 2007. I had assumed that the undated 20th catalog (black 
>> and white cover) is the most recent. But then there's the 2018 bicycles and 
>> frames catalog which is unnumbered, suggesting this is the 21st.
>>
>> Thanks again for input and wisdom. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville ShopSack Medium Light Grey

[Eric Marth]

Sale pending

On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 8:49:42 AM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> I've got an extra medium ShopSack, brand new, never used, still folded up. 
> It's from the most recent run. In the light grey grid pattern. Interior 
> pouch pocket is royal blue. 
>
> Figured I'd offer it to the group rather than return to Riv, have them 
> re-stock and then ship it again to you, the next owner. 
>
> $70 shipped to you in the USA
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[RBW] FS: Sackville ShopSack Medium Light Grey

[Eric Marth]

I've got an extra medium ShopSack, brand new, never used, still folded up. 
It's from the most recent run. In the light grey grid pattern. Interior 
pouch pocket is royal blue. 

Figured I'd offer it to the group rather than return to Riv, have them 
re-stock and then ship it again to you, the next owner. 

$70 shipped to you in the USA

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Re: [RBW] Chainstay dimples and kickstand kisses

[Eric Marth]

Thanks Dave and James. That pre-fab kickstand plate looks like the ticket. 

On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 2:30:08 PM UTC-5 James Valiensi wrote:

> Structurally you are okay.
> You can get a kick stand plate brazed on, if you ever decide to repaint 
> the frame.
>
> On Dec 28, 2020, at 8:27 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> Iecently removed my Pletscher bipod kickstand and noticed some mutilation 
> to my chainstays. Pictured below is my LHT, the kickstand was installed by 
> the previous owner. The sight brought to mind Grant's warning on the 
> kickstand hardware listing: "This is one of those terribly useful 
> aftermarket problem solvers that can save the day or wreck your frame, 
> depending on how you attach it." 
>
> Just how bad is this? Cause for concern or shall I carry on? 
>
> Thanks for your collective wisdom. 
>
> 
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Re: [RBW] Chainstay dimples and kickstand kisses

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for the input, Eric, I appreciate it. 

My stand had the same pieces of rubber on the top of the stays (one was 
cracked) but crunched the bottom!

On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 12:36:21 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> P.S. My Soma Saga came with a kickstand installed, and whoever built the 
> bike (probably American Cyclery in SF) used thick rubber between the 
> kickstand and the frame to prevent dimpling of the top of the chain stays 
> (there’s a kickstand plate on the bottom).
>
>
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy  
>
> On Dec 28, 2020, at 8:27 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> Iecently removed my Pletscher bipod kickstand and noticed some mutilation 
> to my chainstays. Pictured below is my LHT, the kickstand was installed by 
> the previous owner. The sight brought to mind Grant's warning on the 
> kickstand hardware listing: "This is one of those terribly useful 
> aftermarket problem solvers that can save the day or wreck your frame, 
> depending on how you attach it." 
>
> Just how bad is this? Cause for concern or shall I carry on? 
>
> Thanks for your collective wisdom. 
>
> 
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[RBW] FS: Soma Cazaderos, Kucharik wool tights

[Eric Marth]

Hi All, I have a few things for sale:

Soma Cazadero Tires
700x42, gumwalls. Brand new, zero miles. Made in Japan. One tire mounted 
and removed, the other never removed from packaging. Guess which! $100 for 
the pair plus shipping to you. 

Kucharik wool tights
Black, 100% merino wool. Made in California. Sized medium but please see 
the measurements. With a leather chamois. Measure 15" laid flat (they have 
some stretch, not much), 31" inseam and a 9" zipper at the leg. Drawstring 
waist, rear pocket. Some light wear, minor pilling. $75 plus shipping to 
you. 

Pictures here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/zCe2GidtE6gdsFgU6 

Thank you :) 

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Re: [RBW] Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Eric Marth]

This is some choice content, Thanks Jason

On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 2:12:55 AM UTC-5 Andy Beichler wrote:

> I was listening to Soul Serenade from the live album King Curtis cut out 
> at the Fillmore West as I was scrolling through.  Your pictures and his 
> beautiful playing went together quite well.  Thanks.  
>
>
> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:40:33 PM UTC-5 Paul Richardson wrote:
>
>> thanks for posting this.  really enjoyed reading it and these photos look 
>> like fern gully.  wish i had easy access to that kinda wildness!
>>
>> paul
>> takoma park, md.
>>
>> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:41:49 AM UTC-5 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>>
>>> Wow! Amazing loop! thanks for sharing! You mention bears and cougars, do 
>>> you ever carry bear spray? 
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 5:02:46 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 Very pretty photos. One of my favorite kinds of riding is dirt or 
 gravel roads or trails that are not technical, just like those you show. I 
 live close to a lot of them, but ours are sandy; tossup whether I'd prefer 
 sand or mud. 

 This moves me to resolve to explore more of our trails north of where I 
 live, and spend half a day doing that, sometime soon!

 On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 9:51 PM Jason Fuller  
 wrote:

> I had a particular route in mind when I bought this frameset from Joe, 
> and today I rode it (well, one version of it). It's just outside of town 
> here in Vancouver BC, and its quite special. We have an immense wealth of 
> trails on our north shore, though most are technical mountain bike or 
> hiking trails. I love those trails, but this route features the only 
> extended stretch of gravel that is fully closed to motorized traffic as 
> well as the only paved parkway that extends into the wilderness in this 
> region. 
>
> I can ride it from my doorstep; it's about 11km to get to this paved 
> parkway - popular in summer, but pretty quiet nowadays. 
>
> [image: IMG_2849rs.JPG]
>
> This path carves through the rainforest for about 5km, leaving cell 
> service behind, until a pretty hard-to-miss singletrack turnoff takes you 
> down a steep embankment to this grand clearing, known as The Spot among 
> friends here. Despite its established looks, it's both well hidden and 
> hard 
> to access, and therefore goes unknown to many who ride this region. 
>
> [image: IMG_2851rs.JPG]
>
> From here, my route follows a steep downhill stretch of singletrack to 
> a marsh, where a gravel access road begins and will take me a further 7km 
> into the valley and away from the city. 
>
> [image: PXL_20201128_222541680.jpg]
>
> This access road, called Spur 4, used to be charming double-track with 
> grass up the middle but it was graded this year with fresh gravel. 
> Unfortunate. Bears and cougars inhabit this area and humans are few and 
> far 
> between - combine this with the lack of cell service and the fact you're 
> now over 10km into the woods, it can be pretty humbling to ride alone. 
>
> [image: IMG_2861.JPG]
>
> A connector trail brings you back to the main parkway, where most 
> people are. It was a little wet today, but that's fine by me. I can't 
> imagine life without full-coverage fenders! 
>
> [image: IMG_2863rs.JPG]
>
> Above is the view of the lake, which is as far as you can go. It was 
> only about 2:30 but already the sun was falling behind the tall peaks to 
> the west; I'm far enough north that it's getting dark shortly after 4pm 
> now. 
>
> [image: PXL_20201128_230524452.jpg]
>
> The first leg of the return route is called the Hatchery Trail, and 
> it's the highlight of the whole route for me. It's a non-technical trail 
> that winds through the moss-rich forest, including placards with 
> information on local wildlife. It's beautifully maintained and quite 
> wonderous, considering the nearest vehicle parking is 10km away!   
>
> [image: IMG_2871rs.JPG]
>
> This puts you back on the paved parkway, which I followed for the full 
> 10km back out of the forest. At the parking lot, I followed a steep 
> downhill connector trail to the trail network to the east. 
>
> [image: IMG_2877rs.JPG]
>
> As I dropped in elevation I entered a pre-sunset fog. Combined with 
> the beginnings of a sunset, it really made for a cool effect with the 
> moss 
> and lichen covered trees. 
>
> [image: PXL_20201129_000243149.jpg]
>
> The full route from my door falls a bit short of 60km, which is a nice 
> length for me - big enough to be rather epic, but can be done in about 4 
> hours and leaves me with a bit of gas in the tank so I'm not a wreck for 
> the rest of the evening! 
>
> Thanks for 

[RBW] Re: Wow! What's going on with Rivendell caps going for $$$

[Eric Marth]

I think that mustard cap is a *great* color.

On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 6:53:43 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> The current bid on that cap is proof positive that we've all been in the 
> house too long 
>
> On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 3:36:02 PM UTC-8 Mark Roland wrote:
>
>> Well there's your answer--Ugly Rivendell Caps are the new Ugly Christmas 
>> Sweaters. Get 'em while the gettin's good.
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 11:07:05 AM UTC-5 John A. Bennett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I remember that one. It came in as a surprise. 
>>> Grant said it was the ugliest cap he'd ever seen. 
>>> We didn't sell them. A few leaked out, I guess. 
>>>
>>> Used Rivendell caps normally don't sell for anywhere near this amount on 
>>> eBay. 
>>>
>>> John jo...@rivbike.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 12:22:58 PM UTC-8 Benz Ouyang, 
>>> Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
>>>
 So I was browsing eBay and happened upon this auction 
 . The auction is for a *used* Rivendell 
 cycling cap, and started yesterday (Nov 13th). The bids quickly added up 
 and currently, a full 6 days before the auction ends, we're already at $51 
 plus $3.95 for shipping.

 Looking at the cap in question, I don't see anything special about it. 
 It's cotton, its proceeds will not benefit any charity, and it's 
 *used *(albeit in almost-new condition). Why are people willing to bid 
 this cap up so high? And more importantly, am *I* now slightly 
 wealthier because I have a stack of similar used Rivendell caps in 
 different colors, including this mustard-yellow version? :)

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[RBW] Rivendell catalog Number One

[Eric Marth]

Hi All – I'm trying to collect a full run of Rivendell catalogs from the 
first to the last. At this point I have nineteen out of the twenty 
published catalogs. I'm still looking for the first catalog.

For reference does anyone have a picture of the first catalog they could 
share? I haven't found any images of it in my searches. Thanks for the help!

Eric 

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[RBW] FS: Western Mountaineering Cloudrest Pillow

[Eric Marth]

A gently used Western Mountaineering Cloudrest down pillow. 5 ounce total 
weight, 800-fill down. This one's a nice burnt-orange color. 

$45 shipped to you in the US. 

Thanks,
Eric

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[RBW] The first Rivendell catalog?

[Eric Marth]

Hi All – I am accumulating old Rivendell catalogs and at this point it 
appears I have nineteen out of a total of twenty published catalogs. I 
can't find an images online in old blogs, closed auctions or the like that 
depict the first catalog. 

Does anyone have a picture of catalog number one? I appreciate your help!

Thanks,
Eric

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Eric Marth]

Small Bridgestone XO-1 for $700 in Williamsburg, VA. No affiliation. 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1098938377191990/

On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 2:49:05 PM UTC-5 Nikko in Oakland wrote:

> Atlantis, 53cm, full build with Paul bits and a Bertoud saddle with < 30 
> miles on it over at Crust. Probably won't be on there long. 
> $3125 + tax + shipping 
>
> https://www.crustbikes.com/products/53cm-rivendell-atlantis-complete/
>
> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 7:46:52 AM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Protovelo F/F/HS
>> 56 cm
>> Lomita, CA
>> $350
>>
>>
>> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/lomita-rivendell-protovelo-frameset/722572.html
>>
>> [image: 00s0s_lgPf1O5q0Zk_0CI0l8_1200x900.jpg]
>> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:11:41 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> This thread is for Rivendells you've found on eBay, CraigsList, and 
>>> sites beyond: bikes in which you think someone here might be interested. 
>>> This thread isn't for posting ads to your own ad, it's just so people who 
>>> are searching or interested have a place to look, like, "Hey, check this 
>>> out!" Here are a few, from today's searches:
>>>
>>> 61cm Roadini
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/283940882590
>>>
>>> 58cm Quickbeam
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/pinole-rivendell-quickbeam-58/7154380920.html
>>>
>>> 52cm Clementine
>>>
>>> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bik/d/richardson-rivendell-clementine/7130894748.html
>>>
>>> 65cm Redwood
>>>
>>> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-redwood/7153843392.html
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell catalogs

[Eric Marth]

Thank you, Matthew, I noticed these this weekend. I have all the readers 
and catalogs listed. 

On Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 11:32:36 AM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Rivendell Catalogs
> 6 issues: 2000 - 2002
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Catalogue-6-Issues-from-2000-2002-Bridgestone/164483680047
>
> Rivendell Reader
> 10 Issues #29 - #30 2000 - 2003
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/164483744318
>
> On Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 5:02:25 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Greg. PM sent :) 
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 11:55:52 AM UTC-4 Greg J wrote:
>>
>>> I have just about every Riv Reader and Riv catalog from about 1997 
>>> through whenever Riv stopped doing them regularly.  So approx 10 years' 
>>> worth?
>>>
>>> If you're interested, let me know.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 7:57:54 AM UTC-7, Eric Marth wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Mike. PM sent :)
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 8:00:59 AM UTC-4 mike goldman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> i have a spring/summer 2000 catalog and price catalog in good shape
>>>>>  
>>>>> mike goldman
>>>>> rhode island
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
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[RBW] Re: Stolen Bleriot (San Francisco)

[Eric Marth]

Lee – I don't see a picture attached! 

Best of luck for recovery 

On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 11:13:30 PM UTC-4 LeeC wrote:

> Hey Riv community,
>
> A friend had her 57cm Bleriot stolen today in the Outer Sunset in San 
> Francisco. Please be on the look out for suspicious sales. Pictured as 
> below but the front basket had been swapped out for a saddle sack. She’s an 
> essential worker and the Bleriot is an essential get-around!
>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell catalogs

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Greg. PM sent :) 

On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 11:55:52 AM UTC-4 Greg J wrote:

> I have just about every Riv Reader and Riv catalog from about 1997 through 
> whenever Riv stopped doing them regularly.  So approx 10 years' worth?
>
> If you're interested, let me know.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 7:57:54 AM UTC-7, Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Mike. PM sent :)
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 8:00:59 AM UTC-4 mike goldman wrote:
>>
>>> i have a spring/summer 2000 catalog and price catalog in good shape
>>>  
>>> mike goldman
>>> rhode island
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Top News - Sponsored By Newser 
>>> <https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part_medium=uol_campaign=rss_taglines_more>
>>>
>>>- *DOJ Sues Over Melania Tell-All* 
>>><http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/5f86e86726b146866428dst04duc1>
>>>- *A Murder Hornet Escaped. Again* 
>>><http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/5f86e867462996866428dst04duc2>
>>>- *Trump: 'Suburban Women, Would You Please Like Me?'* 
>>><http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/5f86e867655eb6866428dst04duc3>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell catalogs

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Mike. PM sent :)

On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 8:00:59 AM UTC-4 mike goldman wrote:

> i have a spring/summer 2000 catalog and price catalog in good shape
>  
> mike goldman
> rhode island
>
>
> 
>
> Top News - Sponsored By Newser 
> 
>
>- *DOJ Sues Over Melania Tell-All* 
>
>- *A Murder Hornet Escaped. Again* 
>
>- *Trump: 'Suburban Women, Would You Please Like Me?'* 
>
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Rivendell catalogs

[Eric Marth]

Hi all: I'm looking to acquire old Riv catalogs. If you have any duplicates 
or other catalogs you'd be interested to part with me please me know!

Also searching for the 1992 Bridgestone catalog. 

Thanks,
Eric  

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Re: [RBW] silver shifter slip under load

[Eric Marth]

Installed Silver (v1) shifters on Shimano pods last night/this morning. I 
had a problem very similar to what Nikko described above. The lever for the 
rear derailleur worked like a dream. But the one operating the front mech 
was difficult to use. 

Surly LHT, Albatross bars, Shimano pods. Front derailleur is a Shimano 
Tiagra FD-4503.

After some trial and error I have them working nicely. The Shimano levers I 
removed worked just fine. I installed the new Silvers using instructions 
for SuperMix Shifters from a 1999 Riv catalog: Snipped and modified the 
shifter boss stop, mounted lever and washers, applied beeswax to the wing 
nut. Installed cables as normal. The lever for the rear worked just fine. 
The lever for the front was *very *difficult to operate. At first I thought 
I couldn't move it at all. 

I took the troubled lever off. With a closer look I noticed the shifter 
boss wasn't sitting perfectly flat. The channel I cut there needed to be a 
bit wider to clear the nub in the shifter pod. So I filed that down some 
more. And I had incorrectly run the cable at the pinch bolt. I had been 
going under the tab, I needed to go over top the tab (consulted 
installation manual and some forums). This changed the leverage a bit to my 
advantage. 

While doing this I also replaced the cable and housing. I didn't see 
anything troublesome in the cables and housing so far as crimps, dimples or 
kinks. I applied some additional beeswax to the threads of the wing nut. 
Reassembled. 

Now the shifter is working as expected. 

On Friday, October 9, 2020 at 8:41:51 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:

> I second the N+1 for the cassette cog count to the chain. I have a Shimano 
> 9 speed cassette and a 10 speed SRAM chain ( PC-1031), work very well 
> together with my Suntour down tube shifters. RD shifter stays put, but the 
> FD shifter comes loose with frequent shifting. I just keep tightening the D 
> ring, may switch to the Silver DT shifters. We'll see.
>
> JohnS
>
> On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 12:49:23 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> BTW, the finicky chain tracking is not necessarily related to slipping 
>> shifters; I've had it happen with shifters that never slipped. But for 
>> slipping, to repeat it again, loudly: blue Loctite fixed my Silvers as it 
>> did the old Campy Record DT shifters that are notorious for loosening, and 
>> that I used on the ineffably nice Kelly Take-Off mounts.
>>
>>
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] silver shifter slip under load

[Eric Marth]

Nikko – I'm having the same problem with a set of Silvers I installed 
today. Anything improve your shifting? 

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:32:24 PM UTC-4 Nikko in Oakland wrote:

> Hey Sam, 
>
> I just got some brand new Silver Shifters (v1) today that I put on with 
> some VO thumbies. I'm having a similar-ish problem and wondering if you're 
> experiencing the same, but more along the lines of the problem J L 
> mentioned (spring return) . 
>
> My problem is that the shifting for the front shifter is suuper hard 
> to do. Is this similar to your problem? I push the shifter pretty hard and 
> I feel like I'm definitely forcing it. I finally get it to shift, but then 
> I do that a couple more times, and at this point the cable is looser than 
> it was before, getting pulled out of the tensioning screw. Do you think the 
> problem is similar, or is this really just a difference in the spring 
> return of the front derailleur? 
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 4:31 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Note that the levers would loosen and slip even when the plastic tension 
>> washers were whole. Blue Loctite solved the slipping problem but not the 
>> washer breakage (or shifter body breakage) problem.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 5:30 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> I applied blue Loctite to the tension bolts, and this worked. But the 
>>> need to do this, and my experience of breaking 2 right-side Silver shifter 
>>> bodies when my bikes fell over, took me back to the old Suntour Bar Cons -- 
>>> where I have to use blue Loctite anyway to ensure that the shiny and very 
>>> hard to find locknuts don't fall off.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 9:44 AM Sam Perez  wrote:
>>>
 hi guys, how do you keep your silver shifters form slipping under load, 
 i tighten the retention bolt but when i play with it it slowly loosens 
 with 
 multiple shifts, i do lots of hills and need confidence that i wont ghost 
 shift under load.

 thanks

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[RBW] Silver shifters v1: Force required w. front derailleur

[Eric Marth]

Hi all – I just installed a set of Silver shifters, mounted to Shimano 
pods. The rear derailleur is working great, with a light touch. However the 
front derailleur requires some serious English in order to shift up (adding 
tension). The lever moves normally with the wingnut snugged up when the 
cable is detached from the derailleur. 

It shifts and holds position so far but the amount of force required seems 
excessive. Certainly requires a lot more than the Shimano levers I just 
removed. 

Is this typical of these levers? If not, does anyone have an idea of how I 
might correct? 

Cables and housing are brand new, housing ends are clean. No tight bends or 
kinks to the housing. Started with barrel adjuster backed out one and a 
half turns. 

Thanks for the help! 

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