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Madden Bags have a project manager 

On Wednesday, July 10, 2024 at 2:02:31 PM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> Kangaroo Bags are spoken for. 
> Madden Bags are available still. 
>
> On Wednesday, July 10, 2024 at 9:13:54 AM UTC-7 Jeremy Rossen wrote:
>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> I would cover the shipping to the boston area, and give the bags some 
>> love and finish this project!
>>
>> let me know,
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 11:47 AM Cyclofiend Jim  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Digging through boxes in my garage and unearthed three sets of panniers 
>>> from the late 80's/early 90's. They all have noticeable "stored nylon" funk 
>>> (an "olfactory adventure"?) and all of the strap tie-down guides have 
>>> degraded and failed. (If they had just spent the extra $'s and used a 
>>> non-rubber part) 
>>>
>>> I've sprayed them all with some defunk enzymatic and hung them in the 
>>> sun for a day or two. They aren't going to cause gagging, but they aren't 
>>> exactly odor-free. If I were going to do the restoration, I'd put them into 
>>> a nice large washing machine and run them through, then hang them in the 
>>> sun for a bit. A little borax in the laundry, perhaps...
>>>
>>> However, before I did that, I'd want to pick off all the strap guide 
>>> remnants which have degraded. They were rubber and have completely dried 
>>> out in the (mumble-mumble) years since I bought them (Ok... bought these 
>>> back in the 1980s...). When I started airing them out, chunks fell away 
>>> from each one. They are toast. 
>>>
>>> I'd probably look for a sail bag maker or a friend who has a commercial 
>>> sewing machine, cut some thick leather in the shape of the strap guides and 
>>> sew them in place. They will probably work without the guides, but it would 
>>> be a better fix.
>>>
>>> If you have read this far, then you know the quality of the old Madden 
>>> Mountain Panniers and first generation Kangaroo Bags. This was seriously 
>>> overbuilt gear. I had to resign them to landfill. 
>>>
>>> I have a bunch of detailed images which I took yesterday.
>>>
>>> If this sounds like something you are interested in, take a look at the 
>>> images. The Madden Mountain pannier sets snap together when off the bike. 
>>> The Kangaroo Bags have nicely overlapping top covers. and a cinchable top 
>>> to the compartment. All zippers and snaps seem to be in great shape. 
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/jKrRmJA5cQxMThF99
>>>
>>> I used these a few times, but they never got the miles they deserved. If 
>>> you want to take this on, I really just want to cover shipping to your 
>>> location. As I said, I just don't want to toss them into landfill. They are 
>>> in good shape, except for the funk and the failed strap guides. 
>>>
>>> So, if you want to take on stewardship of this project, message me 
>>> directly. Pickup available if you are in the general SF Bay Area. 
>>>
>>> Thanks for considering this!
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Who needs a Restoration Project? Madden Mountain Panniers / Kangaroo Bag Panniers

Kangaroo Bags are spoken for. 
Madden Bags are available still. 

On Wednesday, July 10, 2024 at 9:13:54 AM UTC-7 Jeremy Rossen wrote:

> Hi Jim,
>
> I would cover the shipping to the boston area, and give the bags some love 
> and finish this project!
>
> let me know,
> Jeremy
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 11:47 AM Cyclofiend Jim  
> wrote:
>
>> Digging through boxes in my garage and unearthed three sets of panniers 
>> from the late 80's/early 90's. They all have noticeable "stored nylon" funk 
>> (an "olfactory adventure"?) and all of the strap tie-down guides have 
>> degraded and failed. (If they had just spent the extra $'s and used a 
>> non-rubber part) 
>>
>> I've sprayed them all with some defunk enzymatic and hung them in the sun 
>> for a day or two. They aren't going to cause gagging, but they aren't 
>> exactly odor-free. If I were going to do the restoration, I'd put them into 
>> a nice large washing machine and run them through, then hang them in the 
>> sun for a bit. A little borax in the laundry, perhaps...
>>
>> However, before I did that, I'd want to pick off all the strap guide 
>> remnants which have degraded. They were rubber and have completely dried 
>> out in the (mumble-mumble) years since I bought them (Ok... bought these 
>> back in the 1980s...). When I started airing them out, chunks fell away 
>> from each one. They are toast. 
>>
>> I'd probably look for a sail bag maker or a friend who has a commercial 
>> sewing machine, cut some thick leather in the shape of the strap guides and 
>> sew them in place. They will probably work without the guides, but it would 
>> be a better fix.
>>
>> If you have read this far, then you know the quality of the old Madden 
>> Mountain Panniers and first generation Kangaroo Bags. This was seriously 
>> overbuilt gear. I had to resign them to landfill. 
>>
>> I have a bunch of detailed images which I took yesterday.
>>
>> If this sounds like something you are interested in, take a look at the 
>> images. The Madden Mountain pannier sets snap together when off the bike. 
>> The Kangaroo Bags have nicely overlapping top covers. and a cinchable top 
>> to the compartment. All zippers and snaps seem to be in great shape. 
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/jKrRmJA5cQxMThF99
>>
>> I used these a few times, but they never got the miles they deserved. If 
>> you want to take this on, I really just want to cover shipping to your 
>> location. As I said, I just don't want to toss them into landfill. They are 
>> in good shape, except for the funk and the failed strap guides. 
>>
>> So, if you want to take on stewardship of this project, message me 
>> directly. Pickup available if you are in the general SF Bay Area. 
>>
>> Thanks for considering this!
>>
>> Jim
>>
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[RBW] Re: Who needs a Restoration Project? Madden Mountain Panniers / Kangaroo Bag Panniers


Note: that should have been "...I'd _hate_ to resign them to a landfill..."


On Wednesday, July 10, 2024 at 8:47:29 AM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> Digging through boxes in my garage and unearthed three sets of panniers 
> from the late 80's/early 90's. They all have noticeable "stored nylon" funk 
> (an "olfactory adventure"?) and all of the strap tie-down guides have 
> degraded and failed. (If they had just spent the extra $'s and used a 
> non-rubber part) 
>
> I've sprayed them all with some defunk enzymatic and hung them in the sun 
> for a day or two. They aren't going to cause gagging, but they aren't 
> exactly odor-free. If I were going to do the restoration, I'd put them into 
> a nice large washing machine and run them through, then hang them in the 
> sun for a bit. A little borax in the laundry, perhaps...
>
> However, before I did that, I'd want to pick off all the strap guide 
> remnants which have degraded. They were rubber and have completely dried 
> out in the (mumble-mumble) years since I bought them (Ok... bought these 
> back in the 1980s...). When I started airing them out, chunks fell away 
> from each one. They are toast. 
>
> I'd probably look for a sail bag maker or a friend who has a commercial 
> sewing machine, cut some thick leather in the shape of the strap guides and 
> sew them in place. They will probably work without the guides, but it would 
> be a better fix.
>
> If you have read this far, then you know the quality of the old Madden 
> Mountain Panniers and first generation Kangaroo Bags. This was seriously 
> overbuilt gear. I had to resign them to landfill. 
>
> I have a bunch of detailed images which I took yesterday.
>
> If this sounds like something you are interested in, take a look at the 
> images. The Madden Mountain pannier sets snap together when off the bike. 
> The Kangaroo Bags have nicely overlapping top covers. and a cinchable top 
> to the compartment. All zippers and snaps seem to be in great shape. 
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/jKrRmJA5cQxMThF99
>
> I used these a few times, but they never got the miles they deserved. If 
> you want to take this on, I really just want to cover shipping to your 
> location. As I said, I just don't want to toss them into landfill. They are 
> in good shape, except for the funk and the failed strap guides. 
>
> So, if you want to take on stewardship of this project, message me 
> directly. Pickup available if you are in the general SF Bay Area. 
>
> Thanks for considering this!
>
> Jim
>

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[RBW] Who needs a Restoration Project? Madden Mountain Panniers / Kangaroo Bag Panniers

Digging through boxes in my garage and unearthed three sets of panniers
from the late 80's/early 90's. They all have noticeable "stored nylon" funk
(an "olfactory adventure"?) and all of the strap tie-down guides have
degraded and failed. (If they had just spent the extra $'s and used a
non-rubber part)

I've sprayed them all with some defunk enzymatic and hung them in the sun
for a day or two. They aren't going to cause gagging, but they aren't
exactly odor-free. If I were going to do the restoration, I'd put them into
a nice large washing machine and run them through, then hang them in the
sun for a bit. A little borax in the laundry, perhaps...

However, before I did that, I'd want to pick off all the strap guide
remnants which have degraded. They were rubber and have completely dried
out in the (mumble-mumble) years since I bought them (Ok... bought these
back in the 1980s...). When I started airing them out, chunks fell away
from each one. They are toast.

I'd probably look for a sail bag maker or a friend who has a commercial
sewing machine, cut some thick leather in the shape of the strap guides and
sew them in place. They will probably work without the guides, but it would
be a better fix.

If you have read this far, then you know the quality of the old Madden
Mountain Panniers and first generation Kangaroo Bags. This was seriously
overbuilt gear. I had to resign them to landfill.

I have a bunch of detailed images which I took yesterday.

If this sounds like something you are interested in, take a look at the
images. The Madden Mountain pannier sets snap together when off the bike.
The Kangaroo Bags have nicely overlapping top covers. and a cinchable top
to the compartment. All zippers and snaps seem to be in great shape.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/jKrRmJA5cQxMThF99

I used these a few times, but they never got the miles they deserved. If
you want to take this on, I really just want to cover shipping to your
location. As I said, I just don't want to toss them into landfill. They are
in good shape, except for the funk and the failed strap guides.

So, if you want to take on stewardship of this project, message me
directly. Pickup available if you are in the general SF Bay Area.

Thanks for considering this!

Jim

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Prototype mountain bike for sale

2024-07-07 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

George - read through the description of it in RR3 (page 37) and they talk 
about the taller head tube.
https://notfine.com/rivreader/RR03.pdf

J


On Saturday, July 6, 2024 at 8:12:40 AM UTC-7 George Schick wrote:

> I'm puzzled by the posted frame size for this bike.  For a bike with a 19" 
> seat tube I would expect to see a much shorter head tube.  Unless it just 
> has a top tube with a lot of slope.  It's hard to tell from that photo 
> because the picture was take with the bike on a downward slant.
>
>
> On Thursday, July 4, 2024 at 6:10:17 PM UTC-5 David Blessing wrote:
>
>> I am offering for sale, my Rivendell, prototype mountain bike. I do not 
>> know a lot of history about this frame. I believe that it was one of only a 
>> few prototypes of a mountain bike format made by Rivendell. I have owned 
>> this bike for many years and have never run into anyone else who owns one.  
>> I am not sure when it was made, although some posts I have looked at 
>> suggest that Rivendell was planning a mountain bike somewhere around 1995. 
>> I purchased this frame from a BOB, built it up and rode it once before 
>> hanging it in my office shop along side of my Atlantis and my Rambouillet, 
>> both of which are also for sale.  I am approaching 71 years of age, and it 
>> is time to clean out the stable.
>>
>>
>> This bicycle has a frame that is 49cm from center to the top of the seat 
>> tube or 19”. I’m not up on mountain bike sizing, but I am 5’9” and I think 
>> it fits me fine. This Bicycle has White Industries hubs attached to 26 inch 
>> Velocity Aeroheat AT  rims, a Shimano Deore Mega 9 front derailleur, and 
>> Shimano Deore rear derailleur, cool unidentified handlebar, and Nitto 
>> Technomic stem. It also has Dura Ace brake levers and Suntour XC Pro 
>> cantilever  brakes. The rack pictured goes with the bike. Stamped into the 
>> bottom bracket is the serial number K96087. The saddle and pedals are not 
>> included and  I will probably keep the Baggins bag. I am not sure if  the 
>> seat post is a Nitto or not. The crank is a Suntour XC Pro triple, 
>> 42x32x20.  Shifters are Silver Bar ends. This bicycle is beautiful, but not 
>> new.  It has some nicks and scrapes especially around the chain area.  Some 
>> can be touched up, a couple would only be repairable with a repaint.  I 
>> have included a picture of the worst.  I call them beausage. 
>>
>>
>> This bicycle will be packed by my wonderful friends at the Bike Shed in 
>> Kearney, Nebraska and shipped via bike flights. I will be happy to subtract 
>> $200 from my price if you would like to road trip it to my home or near my 
>> home near Elwood, Nebraska to pick it up.
>>
>>
>> Price:  $1850.00 shipped to you in the CONUS.  
>>
>>
>> Should you be interested, I will be happy to supply you with further 
>> pictures of your choosing.[image: IMG_2403.jpeg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Prototype mountain bike for sale

2024-07-05 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

A... of course. 
The Mountain was "pre" Joe/Curt builds. 

Thanks for sharing that. 

On Friday, July 5, 2024 at 9:26:11 AM UTC-7 Father of Sam wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Weird that this is my first time ever responding or posting anything to 
> this group in 15 years, but I thought it might be helpful to drop this here:
>
> https://waterfordbikes.com/w/support/serial-numbers/
>
> The letter corresponds to the month of the year (skipping 'I'), so this 
> beautiful bike was the 87th frame built at Waterford in October of '96.  
> What an absolute treasure!
>
> -Peter
> NorCal
> On Friday, July 5, 2024 at 7:36:01 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, July 4, 2024 at 6:10:17 PM UTC-5 David Blessing wrote:
>>
>> Stamped into the bottom bracket is the serial number K96087. 
>>
>>
>> It was built in Waterford in 1996. The "K" indicates which builder at 
>> Waterford wielded the torch. 
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee WI USA 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Prototype mountain bike for sale

2024-07-04 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

My, my, my that is a piece of RBW history right there...

My guess would be a 1996 build. I think the "K" meant a "Kurt" build. (Curt 
Goodrich) But I'm not sure. (J or JS would have been for Joe Starck)

RR#3 talks about the Mountain model (Mountain/Expedition was another name 
for it) - there were _very_ few ever built.

https://notfine.com/rivreader/RR03.pdf
(page 37)


On Thursday, July 4, 2024 at 4:10:17 PM UTC-7 David Blessing wrote:

> I am offering for sale, my Rivendell, prototype mountain bike. I do not 
> know a lot of history about this frame. I believe that it was one of only a 
> few prototypes of a mountain bike format made by Rivendell. I have owned 
> this bike for many years and have never run into anyone else who owns one.  
> I am not sure when it was made, although some posts I have looked at 
> suggest that Rivendell was planning a mountain bike somewhere around 1995. 
> I purchased this frame from a BOB, built it up and rode it once before 
> hanging it in my office shop along side of my Atlantis and my Rambouillet, 
> both of which are also for sale.  I am approaching 71 years of age, and it 
> is time to clean out the stable.
>
>
> This bicycle has a frame that is 49cm from center to the top of the seat 
> tube or 19”. I’m not up on mountain bike sizing, but I am 5’9” and I think 
> it fits me fine. This Bicycle has White Industries hubs attached to 26 inch 
> Velocity Aeroheat AT  rims, a Shimano Deore Mega 9 front derailleur, and 
> Shimano Deore rear derailleur, cool unidentified handlebar, and Nitto 
> Technomic stem. It also has Dura Ace brake levers and Suntour XC Pro 
> cantilever  brakes. The rack pictured goes with the bike. Stamped into the 
> bottom bracket is the serial number K96087. The saddle and pedals are not 
> included and  I will probably keep the Baggins bag. I am not sure if  the 
> seat post is a Nitto or not. The crank is a Suntour XC Pro triple, 
> 42x32x20.  Shifters are Silver Bar ends. This bicycle is beautiful, but not 
> new.  It has some nicks and scrapes especially around the chain area.  Some 
> can be touched up, a couple would only be repairable with a repaint.  I 
> have included a picture of the worst.  I call them beausage. 
>
>
> This bicycle will be packed by my wonderful friends at the Bike Shed in 
> Kearney, Nebraska and shipped via bike flights. I will be happy to subtract 
> $200 from my price if you would like to road trip it to my home or near my 
> home near Elwood, Nebraska to pick it up.
>
>
> Price:  $1850.00 shipped to you in the CONUS.  
>
>
> Should you be interested, I will be happy to supply you with further 
> pictures of your choosing.[image: IMG_2403.jpeg]
>

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[RBW] A general message about Scams, Scammers and recent techniques

Hey all -

As I'm sure you are aware, we have had some instances of non-group members
emailing members who have posted "wanting to buy" or "want to trade"
listings. These emails often have very good descriptions and contain very
believable photos.

They have largely been scam attempts. Other group members have recognized
images that were theirs or belonged to riding partners. These are
believable attempts and through the excitement of saving a few bucks or
getting a model which is currently unavailable, it would be very easy to
fall for the scam. And we do not fall for scams because we are stupid. We
fall for scams because we are human.

This is reason I have tightened the bottleneck for new members posting "For
Sale" items. If you haven't been an active member in any discussion, and
your first post is a "For Sale" listing, it will not be passed through. (I
had changed the group description to reflect that a number of weeks back.
And if you are a new member who wants to post some items for sale, I'm
happy to be convinced that you are completely legit. Reach out and let's
talk).

At this point, I am advising anyone who is approached via email to:
- Search the other person's email in the group archives, to see if they
have a track record of posting. If they have no posts, it's likely a scam.
- Search their email in the group member section, to see if they are
actually a member. If they are not a member, it's likely a scam.

If you do choose to proceed with any transaction, you do so at entirely
your risk. Due diligence and paying with a protected method are always good
practice.

And, yes, I do realize that there are a number of folks who have lurked on
this list for a number of years and may not have ever posted. So, the above
method is not foolproof. The vast majority of folks in this group are solid
citizens who act in good faith. I don't want to lose site of that.

Thanks for your contributions to this group.

Jim / List Admin

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[RBW] Re: Tenere32 tenere...@gmail.com???

Weirdly... (and I'm looking at you, google groups!) if you type just 
"tenere" into the search, it returns only this thread. But if you add the 
number 746 to the name, another post shows up. 

On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 2:49:44 PM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> And there was a post back on June 15th when I removed them from the group. 
>
> J
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 2:46:55 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> That does not ring a bell and if you type "tenere" into the search 
>> window, only your post comes up.  So that's suspicious.  Do not send them 
>> money until you lay out a transfer plan that protects you.  There are 
>> several ways to do that, but it that person is a scammer, they won't agree 
>> to any of them.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 2:40:41 PM UTC-7 michae...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Made a post (that was since deleted?) looking for a clem size 52. Got a 
>>> few messages from different folks before my post got taken down but 
>>> tenere had a clem in the size I was looking for, photos, etc... but wanted 
>>> to check in here to see if anyone knew them? 
>>>
>>> email address tene...@gmail.com
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Tenere32 tenere...@gmail.com???

And there was a post back on June 15th when I removed them from the group. 

J

On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 2:46:55 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> That does not ring a bell and if you type "tenere" into the search window, 
> only your post comes up.  So that's suspicious.  Do not send them money 
> until you lay out a transfer plan that protects you.  There are several 
> ways to do that, but it that person is a scammer, they won't agree to any 
> of them.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 2:40:41 PM UTC-7 michae...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Made a post (that was since deleted?) looking for a clem size 52. Got a 
>> few messages from different folks before my post got taken down but 
>> tenere had a clem in the size I was looking for, photos, etc... but wanted 
>> to check in here to see if anyone knew them? 
>>
>> email address tene...@gmail.com
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Tenere32 tenere...@gmail.com???

Sorry Michael - I may have nicked that post accidentally. We had a few 
weird ones pop up over the weekend. 

To be very clear, I would not in any way trust them to be a legit source. 

They are not a group member, so I suspect it's similar to the issues we had 
with another random gmail account. 

If someone sends you photos of an item but have no history of interacting 
within this group, I personally would give it a hard pass. There are many, 
many scammers floating around who can easily scrape appropriate images off 
the web. 

- Jim / list admin

On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 2:40:41 PM UTC-7 michae...@gmail.com wrote:

> Made a post (that was since deleted?) looking for a clem size 52. Got a 
> few messages from different folks before my post got taken down but 
> tenere had a clem in the size I was looking for, photos, etc... but wanted 
> to check in here to see if anyone knew them? 
>
> email address tene...@gmail.com
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[RBW] Re: Where can I read try out a ton of different Rivendell models?

2024-06-30 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

What kind of bikes have you been riding previously? 
The reason I ask is that at 86CM PBH, you are probably "between" the 54 and 
57. 
If you walked into most shops, they would probably to put you on the 
smaller bike for all the reasons we fear most shops.
If you showed up in Walnut Creek and anyone at the RBWHQ&L got chatting 
with you, they'd likely encourage you to try the larger size. 

Also, if you are going for upright bars, that might change the equation a 
bit. 
If you are 5'11" with a true 86CM PBH, then you probably are a little 
longer in the upper body 

You might call them in Walnut Creek and be honest about your budget 
restrictions and the fact you might not be buying it right away. They fit 
folks well. 

J

On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 2:04:48 PM UTC-7 anthony...@gmail.com wrote:

> I should’ve stated in the original post, my bad. I’m thinking that a 54 cm 
> Roadini would be a good fit since I’m 5’11 and have a PBH of 86 cm. Please 
> let me know if I’m wrong though!
>
> On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 8:32:27 AM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Regarding the test rides: you should state your desired frame size and/or 
>> your PBH. 
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, June 29, 2024 at 3:25:21 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Finding a local Rivendell owner is a good idea, and you should 
>>> definitely try to pursue that.  In 2024 it can be tricky to execute a 
>>> Rivendell Acquisition Plan a year in advance.  If it's a year down the road 
>>> because you are saving up the money then my advice is to plan on being 
>>> patient twice.  Be patient now while you are saving up the money and trying 
>>> to arrange your informal test ride stuff.  The second round of being 
>>> patient will hinge on what is actually available for you to buy in the 
>>> summer of 2025.  If you have your heart set on one particular thing, and 
>>> that thing isn't available, then you'll have to react to that situation.  
>>>
>>> Big picture, if it's possible, I think it's a good idea in 2024 to be 
>>> ready to react when the perfect bike presents itself to you. If a bike you 
>>> want to own is available, buy it, because it may not be available to you 
>>> later.  That's easier said than done, particularly if your tastes are 
>>> fluid.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 29, 2024 at 9:36:53 AM UTC-7 anthony...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi, I'm interested in getting a Rivendell in a year or so, but I wanted 
 to try some out in the meantime. Does anyone know of any places that have 
 readily available rivs (preferably Roadinis)? Where did you guys try them 
 out before purchasing? 

 I'm from Florida and the riv dealer near me doesn't have any complete 
 bikes. If anyone is in the Tampa or Miami area and is generous enough to 
 let me have a test-ride, that would be great! Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Roadeo 59

2024-06-22 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Please clarify your asking price for this bike. 

Thanks!

Jim

On Saturday, June 22, 2024 at 11:26:25 AM UTC-7 Jonathan D. wrote:

> I am trying to thin out the number of bikes. I'm going to keep the Ram and 
> sell the Roadeo. This is an amazing bike. 
>
> Selling a great condition Rivendell Roadeo 59 cm. Bike is in great shape 
> and comes with Shimano Ultegra 10 speed, Tektro brakes, Thompson seat post, 
> Nitto Stem and Bar. I plan to keep the seat and pedals but might have 
> alternatives if you are interested.  Frame new starts at $2800. Seat is at 
> 75 mm. I have different stems I can include.  I have several wheel options 
> as including some Chris King Velocity rim wheels, and the A23 rims. 
>
>
> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0Z5ejO17r8P43
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Scammer alert: tenere...@gmail.com

2024-06-15 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

They joined two days ago and were still moderated. 

They have been removed from the group. 

Thanks for the heads-up.

Jim

On Saturday, June 15, 2024 at 1:24:48 PM UTC-7 jamin orrall wrote:

> Just replied to R Olson's post about some items for sale, in addition to 
> his response  I immediately received an email asking me what Items I would 
> like to buy from an unrelated email (tene...@gmail.com).  Just a warning 
> they are watching the forum.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommend me a ride in Marin or nearby?

2024-06-12 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Two quick options:

Railroad Grade on Mt Tamalpais is all climbing, but it's a polite grade and 
the views are quite nice. 
It is south facing so can get pretty warm if the temps come up. But there 
are places to stop and recover. 

China Camp State Park can be a bit mountain-bikey at time, but the trails 
are polished and well tended. If you start at the campground end, it's a 
steady climb for a bit, but then a nice long-ish level descent out to 
Buckeye Point and back on the lower trails. Just technical enough to keep 
you alert. Multi-use singletrack. There is a use fee. 

Jim

On Sunday, June 9, 2024 at 11:15:01 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:

> Greetings all,
>
> My son wants me to take him riding in Marin or the bay somewhere for a 
> day. He’s newly experimenting with riding a semi-loaded bikepacking rig in 
> anticipation of attempting a solo three day trip at the end of summer. He 
> is 15 (almost 16) and will be riding on a loaner VO Piolet. I will be 
> riding my older Atlantis set up with Super Yummy gravel tires. Any 
> recommendations of a pretty ride that’s not just all climbing or too 
> sketchy? My fitness level isn’t what his is. 
> You can reply directly if you choose.
>
> Thanks, Liz in Sac

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[RBW] WTB SCAMMER ALERT - gran09...@gmail.com

2024-06-06 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Just a heads-up that if someone reaches out to you from the account - 
gran09...@gmail.com, they are not an active list member. 

They have directly contacted a couple of group members who posted a WTB 
request and exhibited fairly hinky behavior regarding location, etc. 

I have the group settings to restrict contact information to only group 
members, so they either have a "listening post" email account so they can 
harvest contact info, or folks are sharing their contact info in the body 
of the post. 

The body of your post is publicly viewable. 

If you are logged in and viewing the list, you should be able to search for 
the email of anyone who contacts you. If someone tries to sell you 
something of reasonable value but they have no footprint in this group, 
that should be a huge red flag. 

Jim / list admin

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[RBW] Re: FS - MUSA shorts, knickers, BrandV Grabsack, Timbuk2 messenger bag - PRICE DROP

2024-06-04 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

BrandV Bag is SOLD!

On Sunday, June 2, 2024 at 1:52:53 PM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> Knickers are SOLD!
>
> On Sunday, June 2, 2024 at 9:37:11 AM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
>> Prices still include shipping to lower 48
>>
>> MUSA Knickers - original style grey - Size Large
>> 20" (ish) inseam. Gusseted crotch design. Elastic waist belt.
>> Definite saddle wear and some weird stain from when I leaned against some 
>> greasy bits in the shed. Reflectors on back of legs have seen better days 
>> and are definitely worn off in places. Worn. Used. But still have some 
>> miles left in them. Was $35 - now $25
>>
>> Brand V "Grabsack" style bag - OSFA
>> Shoulder bag under the original "Brand V" tag with wooden flap locks. 
>> Very similar to the current Grabsack style back with a main dump area and 
>> nylon divider to separate stuff in the back. I used this lightly for a 
>> while, but it's been flat in the closet for a few years now. Heavy duck 
>> cotton which shows a little sheen here and there. There are probably a few 
>> stains I didn't notice, but it's in pretty dang good shape. Was $65 - now 
>> $45
>>
>> Timbuk2 Messenger bag - Laptop/roller luggage compatible. 
>> This was the last messenger bag I ever bought and while I did slap a 
>> "Just Ride" fabric sticker on it, I didn't really use this one in anger. 
>> It's got some hours on it, but not worn or torn. I just hate to not be 
>> using this, but I've got two others which I reach for (and a small third 
>> one as well), so this doesn't get used. It has a padded laptop section, and 
>> a slot for stacking on a rollaway luggage handle. Heavy duty nylon. 
>> Rubberized base. Large clips.
>> Lots of nooks and crannies to zipper in things. Was $85 - now $65
>>
>>
>> Prices include USPS shipping within the contiguous 48 states. No fee 
>> paypal or venmo, or mail me a check. 
>>
>> I'm attaching a single image of each, but there are many more full size 
>> images in the link below. 
>>
>> Full gallery of images yonder - 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/NiH3m5PvLPJQoJHW8
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 6:01:58 PM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>>
>>> Shorts are SOLD! 
>>> No more calls on the shorts - we have a winner!
>>>
>>> J
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS - MUSA shorts, knickers, BrandV Grabsack, Timbuk2 messenger bag - PRICE DROP

2024-06-02 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Knickers are SOLD!

On Sunday, June 2, 2024 at 9:37:11 AM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> Prices still include shipping to lower 48
>
> MUSA Knickers - original style grey - Size Large
> 20" (ish) inseam. Gusseted crotch design. Elastic waist belt.
> Definite saddle wear and some weird stain from when I leaned against some 
> greasy bits in the shed. Reflectors on back of legs have seen better days 
> and are definitely worn off in places. Worn. Used. But still have some 
> miles left in them. Was $35 - now $25
>
> Brand V "Grabsack" style bag - OSFA
> Shoulder bag under the original "Brand V" tag with wooden flap locks. Very 
> similar to the current Grabsack style back with a main dump area and nylon 
> divider to separate stuff in the back. I used this lightly for a while, but 
> it's been flat in the closet for a few years now. Heavy duck cotton which 
> shows a little sheen here and there. There are probably a few stains I 
> didn't notice, but it's in pretty dang good shape. Was $65 - now $45
>
> Timbuk2 Messenger bag - Laptop/roller luggage compatible. 
> This was the last messenger bag I ever bought and while I did slap a "Just 
> Ride" fabric sticker on it, I didn't really use this one in anger. It's got 
> some hours on it, but not worn or torn. I just hate to not be using this, 
> but I've got two others which I reach for (and a small third one as well), 
> so this doesn't get used. It has a padded laptop section, and a slot for 
> stacking on a rollaway luggage handle. Heavy duty nylon. Rubberized base. 
> Large clips.
> Lots of nooks and crannies to zipper in things. Was $85 - now $65
>
>
> Prices include USPS shipping within the contiguous 48 states. No fee 
> paypal or venmo, or mail me a check. 
>
> I'm attaching a single image of each, but there are many more full size 
> images in the link below. 
>
> Full gallery of images yonder - 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/NiH3m5PvLPJQoJHW8
>
> On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 6:01:58 PM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
>> Shorts are SOLD! 
>> No more calls on the shorts - we have a winner!
>>
>> J
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS - MUSA shorts, knickers, BrandV Grabsack, Timbuk2 messenger bag - PRICE DROP

2024-06-02 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Prices still include shipping to lower 48

MUSA Knickers - original style grey - Size Large
20" (ish) inseam. Gusseted crotch design. Elastic waist belt.
Definite saddle wear and some weird stain from when I leaned against some
greasy bits in the shed. Reflectors on back of legs have seen better days
and are definitely worn off in places. Worn. Used. But still have some
miles left in them. Was $35 - now $25

Brand V "Grabsack" style bag - OSFA
Shoulder bag under the original "Brand V" tag with wooden flap locks. Very
similar to the current Grabsack style back with a main dump area and nylon
divider to separate stuff in the back. I used this lightly for a while, but
it's been flat in the closet for a few years now. Heavy duck cotton which
shows a little sheen here and there. There are probably a few stains I
didn't notice, but it's in pretty dang good shape. Was $65 - now $45

Timbuk2 Messenger bag - Laptop/roller luggage compatible.
This was the last messenger bag I ever bought and while I did slap a "Just
Ride" fabric sticker on it, I didn't really use this one in anger. It's got
some hours on it, but not worn or torn. I just hate to not be using this,
but I've got two others which I reach for (and a small third one as well),
so this doesn't get used. It has a padded laptop section, and a slot for
stacking on a rollaway luggage handle. Heavy duty nylon. Rubberized base.
Large clips.
Lots of nooks and crannies to zipper in things. Was $85 - now $65

Prices include USPS shipping within the contiguous 48 states. No fee paypal
or venmo, or mail me a check.

I'm attaching a single image of each, but there are many more full size
images in the link below.

Full gallery of images yonder -
https://photos.app.goo.gl/NiH3m5PvLPJQoJHW8

On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 6:01:58 PM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> Shorts are SOLD!
> No more calls on the shorts - we have a winner!
>
> J

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Re: [RBW] Touch-up paint

2024-06-02 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

The original orange Rambouillet was a two pass paint job using House Of 
Kolor paints. That specific method of paint application is not used any 
longer.  

I had documented that a while back here - 
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/color.html

Jim

On Sunday, June 2, 2024 at 5:54:41 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> John
>
> No, I don't think anything particular about the Nation of Japan directly 
> influenced the shade of orange of the orange Rambouillet.  Rambouillets got 
> that paint job because they got that paint job.  Orange Hillbornes got 
> their different paint job because that's the paint job they got.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 2:45:15 PM UTC-7 John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ 
> wrote:
>
>> Bill
>>
>> Would the Rambouillets being built in Japan have anything to do with the 
>> shade of orange???   The Waterford colors seem to be the colors they used 
>> for the Rivendell models they made.  
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
>>
>> On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 4:54:44 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Orange Sam Hillbornes and Orange Rambouillets are both "sparkly metallic 
>>> Orange" in color FAMILY.  They are not identical.  The multi-coated 
>>> treatment of the Orange Rambouillets have been described as a "thousand 
>>> dollar paint job".  Whether a scratch on an Orange Rambouillet could be 
>>> made slightly less ugly with the $50 Hilborne Orange touchup from 
>>> Waterford, that's up to the beholder.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA 
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 1:35:04 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone know if the Sam Hilborne Orange is the same as Rambouillet 
 orange?
 Max 

 On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 10:21:02 PM UTC-4 Roy Summer wrote:

> Sometimes you can find nail polish that will match or come very close. 
> Clear polish will help prevent rust if you can’t find a color match.
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 9:31:18 PM UTC-4 gds...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I need Pea Sage Green. Got a "beusage" spot on my Romulus.
>>
>> On Fri, May 10, 2024, 4:49 PM Zac  wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW, I was checking the Gunnar/Waterford site to see if they had my 
>>> paint color (I ordered a bottle when I first heard they were shutting 
>>> down, 
>>> but it broke during a move) and noticed they added some Riv colors:
>>>
>>> Rivendell Atlantis Green
>>> Rivendell Cream
>>> Rivendell Head Tube Ivory
>>> Rivendell Homer Hilsen Blue
>>> Rivendell Jay's Green
>>> Rivendell Light Blue Met
>>> Rivendell Light Green
>>> Rivendell Pearly Arctic Blue
>>> Rivendell Roadeo R
>>> Rivendell Roadeo White
>>> Rivendell Sage
>>> Rivendell Sam Hilborne Orange
>>>
>>> I think the touch-up paint is now shipped in plastic bottles instead 
>>> of glass like I received.
>>> https://waterfordbikes.com/fv/store/Touch-up-one-step-p579850196
>>>
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>>> .
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Re: [RBW] Re: Are bikes becoming too complicated?

2024-05-24 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

I always appreciated solid designs, but definitively stepped off the train 
in the late 90's. 
I'd been reading GP's writings and spent a lot of time on Sheldon's site. 
Slowly realizing that simple and dependable beat flashy and light every day 
of the week. 
I was riding a ton through a California El Nino winter, and the combination 
of muddy trails and mileage had me grinding up drivetrains about every 
month. Most of my disposable income was going to chains, chainrings, and 
cassettes. All those shift-assisting bits and narrow/short teeth just 
evaporated in those conditions. The only reason I switched to XTR cranks 
was that the (ridiculously expensive) chainrings were about 3x thicker than 
everything else. But --- ooof! -- when those had to be replaced. ugh. 
Then I came into possession of an MB1, took off all the shifty bits and 
bought a BMX sprocket and a Surly tensioner. Those long, thick teeth on the 
back wheel refused to grind down, and the chunky chainring worked fine no 
matter how much grit got ground into it. 
The penny dropped, and I embraced the simple drivetrain lifestyle. 

Jim

On Friday, May 24, 2024 at 10:17:33 AM UTC-7 Mathias Steiner wrote:

> please please please let it be an April-Fool's joke
>
>
> On Friday, May 24, 2024 at 1:09:04 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> SaaS -- Shifting-as-a-Service, and "your personal power assistant." I 
>> love it.
>>
>> On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 10:41 AM Robert Calton  wrote:
>>
>>> To add an amusing, cynical thought: can you imagine 
>>> Shifting-as-a-Service? New fully integrated wireless 5G groupsets charge 
>>> you $10/month for 1,000 shifts and then you're stuck with a fixie. Or pony 
>>> up $40/month for unlimited shifts and get your shifting analytics pushed to 
>>> the latest Shimano E-Tube app 
>>> . 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS - MUSA shorts, knickers, BrandV Grabsack, Timbuk2 messenger bag

2024-05-22 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Shorts are SOLD! 
No more calls on the shorts - we have a winner!

J

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[RBW] FS - MUSA shorts, knickers, BrandV Grabsack, Timbuk2 messenger bag

2024-05-22 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Hey there -

I'd stashed these last fall to list to all's y'all's and then promptly
forgot to do so. All sold "as-is" but happy to answer questions if you have
them.

MUSA Shorts - original style grey - Size Large
8" inseam. Gusseted crotch design. Elastic waist belt.
Very light use - $40

Prices include USPS shipping within the contiguous 48 states. No fee paypal
or venmo, or mail me a check.

I'm attaching a single image of each, but there are many more full size
images in the link below.

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Jim

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-14 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

I have to say that I haven't looked at a bike and felt a strong impulse to 
buy in a long time. 

But both of those colors tripped the switch for me. Unique and yet wholly 
Riv. Very fine choices. There are going to be some lucky owners looking 
back on this day and smiling.

Found myself looking at them, thinking "y'know, I don't really have a 
swept back bar setup"

Temptingtempting

J

On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 6:09:21 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

> I like the colors coming this go-round. The Sam seems like the perfect 
> all-rounder and I would get one had I not just bought a Roadini. Who's 
> planning to get a Sam Hillborne?
> Doug
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Rambouillet Randonneuring Road Bicycle "pointy lugs" Toyo? Waterford?

2024-05-13 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Just saw the actual post - the bottom bracket detail would confirm that 
this was the original factory paint. 

>From another resource: 
Base Coat = HOK Nova Orange Shimrin #BC08
Kandy Clear Coat=HOK Spanish Gold #UK14


Jim
On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 12:53:25 PM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> Back in the day, I compiled a fair amount of Rambouillet info yonder - 
> http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/
>
> But, yeah. Toyo. It's possible there was proto-model built stateside, but 
> I cannot recall that being the case. 
>
> In the open shade, that has a bit more of a "current" look to the orange 
> than original. I'd want to verify that it wasn't a repaint. The original 
> orange was a complex paint job. 
> If it had actual sunlight falling on the image, it would be easier to 
> confirm. 
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 3:28:27 PM UTC-7 jerry...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> No mine, and no affiliation...
>> $1,6999
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/305557298256?itmmeta=01HXFQAW6P602XRR9J2PG63GAH&hash=item4724a25c50:g:mhsAAOSwQPJmPTYG
>> [image: 00ram.jpg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Rambouillet Randonneuring Road Bicycle "pointy lugs" Toyo? Waterford?

2024-05-13 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Back in the day, I compiled a fair amount of Rambouillet info yonder - 
http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/

But, yeah. Toyo. It's possible there was proto-model built stateside, but I 
cannot recall that being the case. 

In the open shade, that has a bit more of a "current" look to the orange 
than original. I'd want to verify that it wasn't a repaint. The original 
orange was a complex paint job. 
If it had actual sunlight falling on the image, it would be easier to 
confirm. 

Jim

On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 3:28:27 PM UTC-7 jerry...@gmail.com wrote:

> No mine, and no affiliation...
> $1,6999
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/305557298256?itmmeta=01HXFQAW6P602XRR9J2PG63GAH&hash=item4724a25c50:g:mhsAAOSwQPJmPTYG
> [image: 00ram.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: List Admin Message: Kerfuffle of the week and what to do about scammy folks

I would say a good rule of thumb:
- An offer which begins as a DM
- The offer comes from someone who has no posts in the group
= "Run Away!"

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 12:56:20 PM UTC-7 Hoch in ut wrote:

> Would it be possible to list the names of the scammers somewhere? Just for 
> those initiated contact by a private message prior to the ban. 
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 1:46:25 PM UTC-6 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
>> Hey all - 
>>
>> I just removed another person who listed an item and appears to have been 
>> harvesting internet images and presenting them as their own. That's not OK. 
>>
>> This has happened pretty infrequently on this group, and it always a 
>> minor PITA to deal with. 
>>
>> All of which has me wanting to tighten down the listing of for sale items 
>> for new members. These problems always stem from some "enterprising" 
>> individual who joins the group and tries to post a for sale item 
>> immediately. I can count on one hand the times that some "known" group 
>> member acted inappropriately in a transaction.
>>
>> The way in which we've avoided this in the past is by asking folks to 
>> engage on the list first, and use it as a way to rehome items second. I'm 
>> going to be a lot more rigid about that now. 
>>
>> I'll update the list info to reflect this in stronger language, but if 
>> your first post is a For Sale item, I won't be passing it through the 
>> queue. If you would like to offer items to other members, please engage 
>> with the community for a while (purposefully vague...) and demonstrate that 
>> you aren't simply here to cash in. 
>>
>> So - deep breath everyone. 
>>
>> Thanks to those who shared more than just conjecture. That clarified the 
>> issue in this case. That's important data. 
>>
>> As for potential or new members who just want to sell gear and not be 
>> part of this community - there's ebay or other marketplaces which protect 
>> you and the buyer, as well as more transactionally focused groups. Please 
>> use those. 
>>
>> Other than that, we're coming into riding season. Go get some miles in.
>>
>> Jim / List-admin
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: List Admin Message: Kerfuffle of the week and what to do about scammy folks

I would say if anyone DM'd you and they are not members of this group, that 
would be suspect. 

J

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 12:56:20 PM UTC-7 Hoch in ut wrote:

> Would it be possible to list the names of the scammers somewhere? Just for 
> those initiated contact by a private message prior to the ban. 
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 1:46:25 PM UTC-6 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
>> Hey all - 
>>
>> I just removed another person who listed an item and appears to have been 
>> harvesting internet images and presenting them as their own. That's not OK. 
>>
>> This has happened pretty infrequently on this group, and it always a 
>> minor PITA to deal with. 
>>
>> All of which has me wanting to tighten down the listing of for sale items 
>> for new members. These problems always stem from some "enterprising" 
>> individual who joins the group and tries to post a for sale item 
>> immediately. I can count on one hand the times that some "known" group 
>> member acted inappropriately in a transaction.
>>
>> The way in which we've avoided this in the past is by asking folks to 
>> engage on the list first, and use it as a way to rehome items second. I'm 
>> going to be a lot more rigid about that now. 
>>
>> I'll update the list info to reflect this in stronger language, but if 
>> your first post is a For Sale item, I won't be passing it through the 
>> queue. If you would like to offer items to other members, please engage 
>> with the community for a while (purposefully vague...) and demonstrate that 
>> you aren't simply here to cash in. 
>>
>> So - deep breath everyone. 
>>
>> Thanks to those who shared more than just conjecture. That clarified the 
>> issue in this case. That's important data. 
>>
>> As for potential or new members who just want to sell gear and not be 
>> part of this community - there's ebay or other marketplaces which protect 
>> you and the buyer, as well as more transactionally focused groups. Please 
>> use those. 
>>
>> Other than that, we're coming into riding season. Go get some miles in.
>>
>> Jim / List-admin
>>
>

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[RBW] List Admin Message: Kerfuffle of the week and what to do about scammy folks

Hey all -

I just removed another person who listed an item and appears to have been
harvesting internet images and presenting them as their own. That's not OK.

This has happened pretty infrequently on this group, and it always a minor
PITA to deal with.

All of which has me wanting to tighten down the listing of for sale items
for new members. These problems always stem from some "enterprising"
individual who joins the group and tries to post a for sale item
immediately. I can count on one hand the times that some "known" group
member acted inappropriately in a transaction.

The way in which we've avoided this in the past is by asking folks to
engage on the list first, and use it as a way to rehome items second. I'm
going to be a lot more rigid about that now.

I'll update the list info to reflect this in stronger language, but if your
first post is a For Sale item, I won't be passing it through the queue. If
you would like to offer items to other members, please engage with the
community for a while (purposefully vague...) and demonstrate that you
aren't simply here to cash in.

So - deep breath everyone.

Thanks to those who shared more than just conjecture. That clarified the
issue in this case. That's important data.

As for potential or new members who just want to sell gear and not be part
of this community - there's ebay or other marketplaces which protect you
and the buyer, as well as more transactionally focused groups. Please use
those.

Other than that, we're coming into riding season. Go get some miles in.

Jim / List-admin

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[RBW] Kerfuffle of the week - Scam posts and what to do...

Hey all -

I just removed another person who listed an item and appears to have been
harvesting internet images and presenting them as their own. That's not OK.

This has happened pretty infrequently on this group, and it always a minor
PITA to deal with.

All of which has me wanting to tighten down the listing of for sale items
for new members. These problems always stem from some "enterprising"
individual who joins the group and tries to post a for sale item
immediately. I can count on one han d the times that some "known" group
member acted inappropriately in a transaction.

The way in which we've avoided this in the past is by asking folks to
engage on the list first, and use it as a way to rehome items second. I'm
going to be a lot more rigid about that now.

So - deep breath everyone.

Thanks to those who shared more than just conjecture. That clarified the
issue in this case.

Other than that, we're coming into riding season. Go get some miles in.

Jim / List-admin

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[RBW] Re: Caution: "Cuddle Bears"

If you saw my post on the recent (now-locked) Hilsen-for-sale thread, it's 
clear that "Caveat Emptor" is an approach I endorse. 
That has never _not_ been the case in this group and on the internet. 

However, assuming ill-will just because someone didn't want to reveal their 
exact location feels a bit judgmental. 

Bear in mind that new members are moderated, and it could be a day or so 
until a response is released from the queue. In this case, it took a few 
hours before I saw and did so, and there were all manner of insinuations 
fairly quickly. 

Hence my encouragement to dial things back a bit. 

The folks replied to my direct email query in a timely manner and with a 
fair amount of detail. I would probably converse with them a bit more 
before sending off a check in that amount, certainly. But unless you had a 
specific interaction with them that is cause for general concern, I'm not 
seeing a reason to engage. 

Anything that's for sale on this list - from the lowliest worn-out cycling 
cap to a full new bike build - should be confirmed before you send any 
funds. 

And as I feel like I've written more than a few times times in the past 
couple days - if you are having questionable interactions or 
communications, feel free to loop me in. 

Jim

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 11:50:46 AM UTC-7 weste...@gmail.com wrote:

> Jim, 
>
> On Cuddle Bears' FS post thread they decline to reveal their location, say 
> they won't reveal their name, and don't address their use of someone else's 
> photos in their FS thread.  That thread also marks the first post by Cuddle 
> Bears (perhaps they are a regular poster under another name, but that in 
> and of itself is more than a bit peculiar...) -- those are all red flags 
> for me.  I think Max has a point -- Caveat Emptor. Be warned. FWIW, I'd not 
> trust Cuddle Bears given the history of scammers -- this is a community -- 
> new identities shrouded making an FS post shrouded in secrecy are not ideal 
> ways to be a good member of the community. 
>
> Regards, 
>
> Julian Westerhout 
>
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 10:40:20 AM UTC-5 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
>> Max - 
>> I realize you have been in this group for a while, but unless you have 
>> something concrete to offer, I'd ask that you refrain from posting 
>> commentary like this. It's exceedingly vague. If you are an injured party 
>> in a specific transaction, that's different. But it did not seem that way 
>> from this post. 
>>
>> If I understand the issue - a seller repurposed a photograph of a pair of 
>> handlebars. That seems to be the one issue at this point. 
>>
>> As I said in a separate thread - if you have specific _experience_ with a 
>> seller, you are welcome to email the admin - that would be me - with 
>> information.
>>
>> Most of the recent scam attempts - and there are very few here - are via 
>> a DM from someone who has not taken the time to post anything. In this 
>> case, while I certainly encourage caution on any transaction, let's dial 
>> things back a notch, OK?
>>
>> Jim / list admin
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 5:04:46 AM UTC-7 Max S wrote:
>>
>>> Cuddle Bears is / are selling a Susie bike for a very good asking price, 
>>> almost too good to be true. User has no prior posts, a few other details 
>>> don't check out. Use caution. 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Caution: "Cuddle Bears"

If you are worried that the poster does not have possession of a specific 
item, it's pretty simple to ask for verification with an updated image. 


On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 8:40:20 AM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> Max - 
> I realize you have been in this group for a while, but unless you have 
> something concrete to offer, I'd ask that you refrain from posting 
> commentary like this. It's exceedingly vague. If you are an injured party 
> in a specific transaction, that's different. But it did not seem that way 
> from this post. 
>
> If I understand the issue - a seller repurposed a photograph of a pair of 
> handlebars. That seems to be the one issue at this point. 
>
> As I said in a separate thread - if you have specific _experience_ with a 
> seller, you are welcome to email the admin - that would be me - with 
> information.
>
> Most of the recent scam attempts - and there are very few here - are via a 
> DM from someone who has not taken the time to post anything. In this case, 
> while I certainly encourage caution on any transaction, let's dial things 
> back a notch, OK?
>
> Jim / list admin
>
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 5:04:46 AM UTC-7 Max S wrote:
>
>> Cuddle Bears is / are selling a Susie bike for a very good asking price, 
>> almost too good to be true. User has no prior posts, a few other details 
>> don't check out. Use caution. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Caution: "Cuddle Bears"

Max - 
I realize you have been in this group for a while, but unless you have 
something concrete to offer, I'd ask that you refrain from posting 
commentary like this. It's exceedingly vague. If you are an injured party 
in a specific transaction, that's different. But it did not seem that way 
from this post. 

If I understand the issue - a seller repurposed a photograph of a pair of 
handlebars. That seems to be the one issue at this point. 

As I said in a separate thread - if you have specific _experience_ with a 
seller, you are welcome to email the admin - that would be me - with 
information.

Most of the recent scam attempts - and there are very few here - are via a 
DM from someone who has not taken the time to post anything. In this case, 
while I certainly encourage caution on any transaction, let's dial things 
back a notch, OK?

Jim / list admin

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 5:04:46 AM UTC-7 Max S wrote:

> Cuddle Bears is / are selling a Susie bike for a very good asking price, 
> almost too good to be true. User has no prior posts, a few other details 
> don't check out. Use caution. 

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[RBW] Re: Another Brevet Report: The Antelope Island 300k

2024-05-06 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

What a brilliant adventure. Thank you for sharing the details and the 
images. 

Jim

On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 8:17:58 PM UTC-7 Brady Smith wrote:

> A few weeks ago I wrote about my first brevet of the season, in which good 
> training and great conditions produced a 200k for the ages, at least for 
> me. 
>
> Yesterday's ride was a challenge of a different sort. 
>
> The real Antelope Island 300k sets off this coming Saturday. I decided to 
> pre-ride the course because I'll be in Washington DC with 80 8th graders 
> this coming weekend, an endurance test, to be sure, but of a somewhat 
> different kind. 
>
> We've had beautiful weather this week in the Salt Lake Valley, but it's 
> been, quite literally, the calm before the storm. As I did some final 
> planning on Friday, I started noticing winter weather advisories for the 
> Wasatch mountains Sunday into Monday. At first I didn't make much of it, 
> since I was planning on riding on Saturday, and since winter weather can 
> happen all the way through May in this part of the country. But then I 
> remembered what always happens when big storms roll through the valley--big 
> winds come along with them. 
>
> I noticed almost as soon as I started up Emigration Canyon alongside our 
> RBA, who graciously volunteered to accompany me for the first twenty miles 
> or so of the ride--a gusty, noticeable breeze from the east, the opposite 
> direction that winds usually blow in these parts. It calmed a bit as we got 
> to the middle of the canyon--a 7 mile climb or so--and then disappeared as 
> we made our way up towards Big Mountain Pass, a 7400 foot summit that marks 
> the end of the first big ascent on the route. 
>
> Ken, our RBA, had wondered aloud about continuing on, but decided against 
> it due to family obligations. He did not miss the fast descent that usually 
> greets riders on the east side of Big Mountain Pass, because, as we had 
> suspected, it had not yet been cleared by the UDOT, probably because, like 
> us, they could read the forecast, and saw that a foot or two of snow was 
> due to fall over the mountains in the coming days. It was not completely 
> covered in snow, but there were five or six significant snowdrifts impeding 
> progress down the mountain. A ten minute descent turned into thirty minutes 
> of intermittent riding and hiking. 
>
> It didn't seem to be a particularly big deal at that point, and the next 
> 35 miles or so were nothing short of serene. From the base of Big Mountain 
> one continues past East Canyon reservoir and along the vast expanse of the 
> Morgan Valley, a 30 mile downhill section, at which point the 20 mile, 3400 
> foot ascent that greets riders at the start of this route seems to be 
> redeemed. I blew through this section, finding myself in Mountain Green 
> well before lunch, and then up and over Trapper's Loop Road, the second big 
> climb of the route, in fairly swift time. 
>
> After meandering through the upper Ogden Valley, I came across, around 
> mile 80, what I hoped was the last big test of this ride--the North Ogden 
> Divide. You can see it clearly as you approach the backside of the Wasatch 
> Mountains, a tiny line etched precariously in the mountainside, only 2 
> miles long from where the climb really starts to the top of the mountain, 
> but a 2 miles that proceeds upwards at a steady 10%. It's also narrow, and 
> presaged by a sign saying something to the effect of "Steep grades and 
> sharp curves. Not Recommended for Cyclists." (As if in penance, there is a 
> "Share the Road" sign immediately after, but based on the angry shouts of 
> one pickup driver heading down the mountain opposite, not one motorists pay 
> much attention to.) 
>
> I shifted immediately into my 30-32 low gear and started upwards, one eye 
> on the road ahead, another in my mirror, making sure that the occasional 
> vehicle coming up behind me looked like it was going to give me adequate 
> space. It's fair to say that this was the hardest climb I've ever 
> completed, at least when accounting for the fact that I'd already done 80 
> miles and 6000 feet of elevation at this point in the ride. It was 
> borderline nauseating making my way up the mountainside, the stress of the 
> ascent only partially atoned for by the stunning views of the valley off to 
> the south. When there was space I occasionally started zig-zagging up the 
> mountain, trying to relieve some of the strain on my legs and lungs, then 
> getting over when traffic appeared in my mirror behind me. At long last, I 
> made it to the top. 
>
> The descent was exhilarating. The speed limit is 30 mph, but I had to lean 
> on my brakes to stay at 35mph, and the cars lined up behind me seem to have 
> no problem waiting to pass until we got to the bottom. In my head, the 
> worst of it was over. I'd done almost 7000 feet of climbing in 80 miles. 
> After 8 hours in the mountains, I was back in the Salt Lake Valley, with a 
> flat 100 miles or so

Re: [RBW] Re: Scam alert? I'm so confused. Blue Homer in LA? ND?

2024-05-04 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Follow up - 

I just reread the posts in this thread - I'm still confused (and don't 
really want to know all the details)but just to be clear.

First
- There was an old post on FB (unrelated to this group at all)
- It's been there a while.
- It seems scammy.

Also
- Someone DM'd a group member (As I've mentioned before, this is possible 
even if the DM'ing member is moderated) saying a similar bike is for sale.
- That went scammy quickly.
- Others had experience with that individual which felt scammy.
- No one reported it to me.
- I've now removed _that_ individual who was on this list. 

Then
- there was a tangent about an older scammer (immediately removed from this 
group back when it happened, after someone brought it to my attention). 

Review:
- If someone solicits you via DM for a transaction and they have no 
presence on this list, I would err on the side of caution. There are plenty 
of solid group citizens here and very few scammers. But that does not mean 
you should simply trust someone who has contacted you. Verify. Ask for 
specifics. Engage in safe online transaction practices.
- And if someone is acting hinky, let the admin know... 

OK.  Enjoy your weekend!

Jim





On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 3:18:52 PM UTC-7 Jay wrote:

> I feel for those of you who have been scammed.  Hopefully, karma plays out 
> for them, and perhaps you'll have a 'win' in the near future that makes up 
> for it.
>
> I'm almost to the point of quoting any online used buy/sell activity.
>
> I've bought/sold bike stuff, and a few other categories of items, on 
> kijiji for 10-15 years.  Pre-covid, didn't do too bad.  Most items would go 
> in 1-2 weeks, a lot of views, responses were generally positive even if a 
> sale didn't occur.  Most who did respond, got back to you even if they 
> decided to pass on the item.  Likewise, I would message on things I was 
> interested in, and most sellers were respectful and good to deal with. 
>  During covid, selling was a piece of cake.  Now, sigh, about 90% of the 
> interactions I've had are with pinheads.  People who in one minute seem so 
> interested "I can be there today between 3-4pm", and when you say you're 
> working, how about after dinner, you never here another word from them 
> (this has happened with 8 out of the last 10 interactions).  I've had items 
> listed for months with no activity.  I may donate a bunch of things to a 
> bike collective or not-for-profit and hopefully the old parts (mainly 
> saddles and stems) will go to a good home.  I'm a really positive person, 
> but it's hard to be positive with a lot the online activity these days (and 
> these are not scammers, just, pinheads!).
>
> Buy/Sell looks great on this site.  I'm in Canada though so that's a bit 
> of a challenge (though I do use cross border pick up site, and it works 
> fine, both directions), plus I'm at my budget for spending on bike things, 
> for now, and I have most of what I want.
>
> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 11:07:48 AM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Roberta and Eric -
>> Let me clarify how I was scammed. I posted here last July wanting to buy 
>> Blue Lug's
>> *REW10 WORKS* hex brass valve caps here in the states to save myself some 
>> monies in overseas shipping costs. 
>>
>> Anita Batya saw my post and claimed that she had a pair. Anita told me 
>> that she lived in Seattle, of which is relatively close to me (This was a 
>> lie. She lived in Pennsylvania after doing some online homework after the 
>> fact). If I wanted them, she requested me to make a payment through a third 
>> party email address of which she claimed it was her bookkeeper. Anita told 
>> me that she was waiting for an answer from Paypal for a refund. I sent 
>> her money (I forgot what amount it was $50.00~?) several times. This kept 
>> going in circles over and over again. By then, I felt that there was 
>> something mighty strange and peculiar going on. I caught on that I was 
>> being scammed. I did not respond back to her. This was my first time being 
>> scammed over something that I really wanted. My apologies for there might 
>> be some holes left out from my recollection of my interaction with Anita. 
>>
>> Later down the road, there was other members herein and over on the IBOB 
>> group being scammed by Anita. Skip Montanaro, the administrator accepted 
>> Anita 
>> Batya's membership. When I told Skip that she was/is a scammer, he quickly 
>> took action and denied her membership.
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/internet-bob/c/5FXmDXVSG6c/m/yGCjPQ3KBAAJ
>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/WRzS3bBRKcc
>>
>> Kim Hetzel. 
>>
>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 7:24:11 AM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> The "Jeff" in question reached out to me in response to a WTB post. I 
>>> asked what his "Friend" was selling and he said a 60cm Homer, which I 
>>> thought was strange considering my post specifically said 54/55/56cm. 
>>>
>>> A quick check to see that he'd never posted i

[RBW] Re: Scam alert? I'm so confused. Blue Homer in LA? ND?

2024-05-04 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

ADMIN HAT ON ///

Ok. I want to be very, very clear about this. 

I've definitely removed and suspended individuals from this group when they 
behaved inappropriately or they were clearly scams.

But there is really no way for me - or any other member of this group - to 
police some other group on Facebook.

If you have a problem with a seller on Facebook, it would be much more 
direct to take up with FB or the admin of that group. This is not the place 
for that. 

One of the reasons I limit posting for newer members is to try to filter 
out those who are clearly trying to scam folks. 

But I do not in any way want any member of this group to assume that some 
faceless person on the internet has been vetted for transactions. That 
responsibility lies with the buyer. Any member of this group can search 
other members to see how active they have been over the years. 

Caveat emptor. 

Let's have no confusion on that point. 

I felt it was inappropriate to drag content from a private transaction on 
separate on FB into this group, so I've locked this thread. 

// ADMIN HAT OFF

Thanks!

Jim 

On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 8:48:01 PM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi. I've been searching for a blue homer in 54.5 for my wife and in my ISO 
> post I was linked to this facebook listing:
>
> " @Brenton -
> If you go FACEBOOK Rivendell Bicycle BUY/SELL/TRADE, there is a blue Homer 
> under the owner's name of 
> *Payton Beargrr* 
> 
>  
>
> Very near mint condition A. Homer Hilsen, 54.5cm with 650b wheels. Unsure 
> of year but it's likely 4 or less years old. Taiwanese made frame. I am not 
> the original owner but this appears to be a Rivendell build. 
> -Nitto handlebars, stem, and seat post
> -Brooks saddle
> -Paul racer brakes, Paul canti levers
> -Paul thumbie mounts with Microshift shifters
> -Riv Silver double crankset
> -IRD front derailleur
> -Shimano Alivio rear derailleur
> -MKS Grip Monarch pedals
> -mismatched Shimano hubs, no name rims
> -Soma Cazadero 650 x 42b
> -Sackville bag
> The only imperfections are the two small paint chips on the top tube, 
> noted in the pictures. 
> $2500 + shipping. 
> Let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Kim Hetzel."
>
> Other people seem to also be looking at this bike. Robert Carlton said 
> owner confirmed it's a 58. The facebook post has some comments and the 
> owner says the bike is in *Fargo ND.*
>
> I've been texting with someone (who says the bike is in *LA*) and he 
> wants a $400 deposit to sell it to me for $1300 (complete bike, insane 
> price). The whole thing is odd. They can't send me a pic with measure tape 
> to prove a claim of *69cm standover*. It sure doesn't look like a 54.5 
> based on every other Riv stack I've seen and studied. Our messages have 
> been super cryptic. 
>
> I just *HOPE* anyone else looking for a blue homer in 58 or 54.5 doesn't 
> fall for a scam. Posting here amongst people I trust, admire, and have 
> become friends with. My Roadini frame and dozens of parts on both my Rivs 
> have been purchased from this group. I don't want to stir up any drama if 
> this is in fact a legit sale, but the listing is from Jan 2023, 16 months 
> old, this bike at any price under $2000 should be long gone on it's way to 
> a new owner. PS. I'm not sending a deposit.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 3rd parties for bike sales

2024-03-09 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

With any platform, it's beneficial to understand what protections are 
offered. There are resources through the FB help site - 
https://www.facebook.com/help/228307904608701

I wouldn't buy anything significant from anyone without a clear return 
policy agreement. 
Other than that, all caveats apply. 

On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 4:26:52 PM UTC-8 James wrote:

> Has anyone here experimented with 3rd party websites for "large" purchases 
> from strangers?  I'm looking to buy a bike from someone on FB marketplace 
> and it's not a local sale.  So in essence I'm sending over $1,000 to a 
> stranger on their word.  What have ya'll done, if anything, to make sure 
> you aren't getting scammed (asides from getting a sense of their character 
> over the phone)?

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[RBW] Re: Building a Quickbeam and wondering...

2024-03-08 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Mine's still more or less as shown here - 
http://www.cyclofiend.com/ssg/2007/ssg017r3-cyclofiend0107.html

I came back one tooth on the fixed, so it's running at 15T with the stock 
40 Sugino up front. That's kinda where it lives 95% of the time. 
But the 32T is there, as well as the 18T freewheel.

The "single speed crankset" was just a Sugino triple with a guard. You 
could get the Silver and swap up the inner ring.
https://www.rivbike.com/products/crank-silver-double-42-28-with-guard

One of the reasons that remains my favorite bike is the ultimate 
adaptability. You can come up with all manner of ways to set it up and it 
will let you do so. 

J

On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 12:21:08 PM UTC-8 David wrote:

> What are your drivetrain specs? Cranks, chainrings, etc.  Simpleones, too, 
> if that's what you're riding. It appears Riv doesn't offer the classic 
> single speed crankset anymore.

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[RBW] List Admin-y Things

2024-03-04 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Hey there - 

I just found a few list-de-moderation requests in my spam folder. It looks 
like something was triggering the filters...

Anyway - I've unmoderated most of you who requested in the past few weeks, 
so you should be good to go for future interactions. 

A few of you who asked to be unmoderated didn't actually show up as 
members. This is usually caused by using a different email account to joint 
the group. A couple others were just trying to post long, general 
bike-stuff-for-sale lists that were not particularly Riv-adjacent or 
focused. 

To all of you who are now onboard, a hearty Welcome!

Spring is coming, so hang in there through the rains (and blizzards) we are 
experiencing and get riding!  Looking forward to more ride photos and tales.

Jim / List Admin

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[RBW] Re: Favorite Bay Area S24Os?

2024-01-21 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Angel Island is an oft-overlooked destination. 
SP Taylor State Park (though in a valley and tends to be a bit damp)
China Camp State Park


On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 10:31:42 AM UTC-8 jesse.b...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello! I am hoping to do a lot more quick overnight trips this year and 
> was wondering if people had favorite rides and camp spots in the bay area? 
> I have a few Marin sites on my list (Pantoll, Hawk).
>
> I live in SF, but not opposed to taking bart as part of the trip.
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Re: [RBW] OK to post non Rivendell bikes for sale here?

2024-01-21 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Thanks to those who already responded, but putting on my admin cap:

>2019 Ibis Mojo 3

This would be solidly outside of the selling guidelines for this group. 
Plenty of other places to find an excited buyer for that. 

- J

On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 3:05:43 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> 2019 Ibis Mojo 3, size large. Fits more like a medium. I am 5’10”. Riv 
> content? My Gus has taken it’s place.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 16, 2024, at 4:38 PM, Steve  wrote:
>
> You've piqued my curiosity - what's the bike?
>
> Steve
>
> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 12:57:17 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> The moderator and others can correct me, but I think that if the bike in 
>> question is relatively aligned with Rivendell tastes and might appeal to 
>> list members -- if it's generally Rivendellian in taste -- it will be fine. 
>> I would not post a FS for a modern CF road bike or downhill mountain bike 
>> here.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 10:41 AM Richard Rose  wrote:
>>
>>> I am still new here & do not want to violate an rules. But, I do have a 
>>> bicycle that I would like to sell and thought others here might be 
>>> interested. I will not post here until I hear if it is acceptable. Thanks! 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Coaster Brakes for a Beachy Clem Build

2023-12-19 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 10:15:35 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

The show stoppers that I would fear are:

1. A coaster brake requires a no-tensioner way to take up chain slack.  On 
normal cruisers, that's done with horizontal dropouts.  The Clem has 
vertical dropouts.  


Fixing chain slack on vertical dropouts is easily addressed with a chain 
tensioner. 
https://surlybikes.com/parts/singleator

Or if you want a purpose-built wheel, check out the White ENO hub - 
https://www.whiteind.com/product/eno-flip-flop/

If you go the hub route, you would have to leave the handbrakes in 
place 

J

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[RBW] Re: Coaster Brakes for a Beachy Clem Build

2023-12-19 Thread Cyclofiend Jim



On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 10:15:35 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

The show stoppers that I would fear are:

1. A coaster brake requires a no-tensioner way to take up chain slack.  On 
normal cruisers, that's done with horizontal dropouts.  The Clem has 
vertical dropouts.  


Fixing chain slack on vertical dropouts is easily addressed with a chain 
tensioner. 
https://surlybikes.com/parts/singleator

Or if you want a purpose-built wheel, check out the White ENO hub - 
https://www.whiteind.com/product/eno-flip-flop/

 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60 cm Quickbeam

2023-12-08 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Ha! It's kind of disconcerting to see a Quickbeam with front and rear 
derailers. 
Front/Rear were the Suzue hubs?

Jim

On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 10:40:18 AM UTC-8 joe kelly wrote:

> On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 1:35:18 PM UTC-5 joe kelly wrote:
>
>>
>> Stuff I forgot to mention; it’s orange, I don’t want to ship it but would 
>> be willing to drive to meet up, I’m in Columbus Ohio, it has set for a few 
>> years now since cycling faded away and golf took over as favorite hobby. 
>> Has jack brown green tires, front one is flat needs a new tube probably, it 
>> won’t pump up. Has a brass bell. 
>> I loved assembling and riding this bike but I just haven’t touched it in 
>> a few years. Just writing this for sale post brought back so many nice 
>> memories. Maybe it can make nice memories for the next owner too. Hope so 
>> anyway.
>> Thanks
>> Joe
>> On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 1:28:00 PM UTC-5 joe kelly wrote:
>>
>>> Hello
>>> I have decided to sell my 60 cm quickbeam. I bought it used and 
>>> customized it with lots of stuff from Rivendell. I had a wheelset made that 
>>> is a 5sp 120 rear hub and a dyno front hub I got from Rivendell with 
>>> velocity twin hollow wheels. It has lightsfront and rear, a sackville 
>>> small, fenders, campee front rack with wall basket and net. Nitto stem with 
>>> albatross bars, nitto post with broooks b17 and randi jo cover. Sugino 
>>> crank with mkx pedals. Original wheelset included too. Bar end shifters and 
>>> cheapy derailers.
>>> $1750 obo
>>> Thanks
>>> Joe
>>>
>>

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[RBW] "Trust, but Verify"

2023-11-23 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Putting on the admin cap this morning:

I had a couple of members reach out to me regarding some interactions
following a "WTB/WTT" posting.

They were contacted directly by a "member" who had just what they wanted.
Luckily, both of the original posters did a bit of due diligence and
realized that the images had been pulled from other forums, and the person
who contacted them had some fairly sketchy responses. Both individuals
wisely stepped away from the transaction.

This is a reminder that it's up to you to verify the validity of anyone
with whom you are dealing. One quick way to do so is by searching
conversations in this group under the person's email address. In this case
the "member" who exhibited hinky behavior had been in this group for all of
6 days. They had not contributed to any conversations and were still
moderated.

Bear in mind that a moderated/unknown member can still contact you
directly. That's what this individual did in these cases.

As a reminder, if you are engaging in transactions, the onus is upon you to
confirm identity and validity of the person and conditions. Ask questions.
Require an image with today's newspaper or some other verifiable, unique
aspect. Search them in the group.
In other words, "Trust, but verify."

Thankful, as always, for all of you in this group.

admin mode OFF

Jim

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: QuickBeam 58 cm

2023-08-27 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

The flat tabs ("Frenchie tabs"? hmmm h'ain't heard that one before) 
were on the orange model for sure - you can see them on mine - 
http://www.cyclofiend.com/ssg/2006/ssg017r2-cyclofiend1006.html

IIRC, the first green runs did not have them. I've definitely seen a few 
that did not sport them.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/261885177/in/photostream/

On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 8:32:07 AM UTC-7 robert.har...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I agree with this sentiment. My 58cm QB is my “core” bike. Hills, long 
> rides, errands — it does most of what I want from a bike and does it very 
> well. Keeping this one is a good idea…
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 27, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Benjamin L. Kelley  
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Honestly, if I was somehow forced to winnow down to one bike, it would be 
> my qb hands down no 2nd thoughts.
> It's a pretty great do about everything except race or full on mtb frame.
>
> Jason, glad you decided to keep it. It's also a great build.
>
> --ben in Kansas City
>
> On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 7:28 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> APPROVE people keeping their bikes and using them.  
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 6:52:50 PM UTC-7 jasonz...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> And as it is Friday and I took an awesome joyride around the new area, I 
>>> am calling it quits on calling it quits for this bike.  I can say it is now 
>>> sold, as you all sold me on keeping it.  My plan is to keep riding it more 
>>> now that I'm more confident with the climbs in the immediate area and 
>>> if/when I put on the pass n stow rack and start using it for camping, I'm 
>>> hoping to either: change the front chainring to 40t vs 48 and/or find a 
>>> 16/19 DOS for the rear.  That should give me all that I need for the 
>>> terrain.  For some reason the climbing isn't as bad as I initially assumed 
>>> on the 48-18 and I'll just use the bombora when I'm pulling the baby.
>>>
>>> Im super surprised this didn't sell, glad now that I've made my mind, 
>>> but a head scratcher for sure.
>>>
>>> Glad to get to know you all more, it's always a good learning 
>>> opportunity.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Jason a proud old owner of a new old Quickbeam
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 7:03:51 PM UTC-5 Jason Zakaras wrote:
>>>
 Indeed, super clean, it was a gem when I picked it up from you Dylan!  
 I just took a small rip on it and it just glides.  While I think the Rene 
 Herse crank looks brilliant, the 48t is just too stout to have much fun 
 for 
 me now.  I'm kicking myself for getting rid of the 40/32 crank and the 
 17/19 dos... doh!

 If it doesn't sell I think I'm going to change out the chainring to 36t 
 and maybe put a 17/19 dos on it and see if I can have a smile again.  I 
 can 
 put my pull trailer adapter on the bombora and pull the lil one with that 
 too.  hm apostasy!

 On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 6:08:50 PM UTC-5 dylantho...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> For what it's worth - this is my old frame and it's SUPER clean. Jason 
> did a great job in updating it since I sold it to him. 
>
>
> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 2:42:48 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Jason. I looked them up on the Wolf Tooth site and as far as 
>> I can tell they are made only for mountain bike bars; are yours a road 
>> bike 
>> bar model, or did you just force them on to the bigger bar?
>>
>> About that Quickbeam: I know from experience that you can list and 
>> relist a very nice bike and come away with far less than than expected; 
>> then a month later someone will post a similar bike and get a much 
>> higher 
>> price. This happened when I sold a very nice Sam Hillborne some years 
>> ago. 
>> FWIW.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 3:36 PM Jason Zakaras  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick, they are wolf tooth's silicone grips, I believe the Karv 
>>> maybe fatpaw.  I recently switched all my mtbs over to them and they 
>>> are 
>>> lovely.  Its a nice touch when you're feeling fatigued and can drop 
>>> down 
>>> into a cozy bed for yer hands.  I highly recommend them.
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[RBW] Caveat Emptor - Not just a good idea....

2023-07-20 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Caveat Emptor: the principle that the buyer alone is responsible for 
checking the quality and suitability of goods before a purchase is made.

Just to put on my Captain Obvious hat, I want to remind those of you who 
are engaging in transactions here: There is some degree of risk in any 
internet transaction. 

Do your due diligence before sending any money. 
- Do you know the individual?
- Do they have a history of contributing in this group?
- Have you searched for their name and/or email in this group? 

Just because someone figured out how to contact you does not mean they are 
trustworthy. This is a discussion group. It was never set up to provide a 
marketplace with checks against people who take advantage of good-natured 
and trusting folks. You need to take responsibility to protect yourself. 

Now, having said that, we've been remarkably trouble-free in this area, 
mostly because we have a pretty good sense of who is an active member and 
acts as part of the community. 

Be well. Trust, but verify. 

Jim / admin





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Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted post worries

2023-07-20 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

I have removed a couple of "members" who joined in the last month or so and 
seem to be here only to solicit direct transactions. 

Jim

On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 11:08:48 PM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> Just as a reminder, this is a publicly viewable list. 
>
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> On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 10:52:53 PM UTC-7 melissa...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Bummer. This post came a few days too late. Anita made off with 37 of my 
>> hard-earned dollars and no cork grips in sight :'(
>>
>> On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 11:16:20 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
>>
>>> Can you even tell if someone posts often, other than just being familiar 
>>> with their name? I've been on here for a couple of years but also don't 
>>> really post much. I find that most questions I might have are often 
>>> answered by a quick search and review of old threads. There is a wealth of 
>>> knowledge on this group. It's hard to know if someone is trying to scam 
>>> you. I guess using PayPal or some form of protected payment is the way to 
>>> go. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 11:00:09 AM UTC-4 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I better post more often as I like selling on this list and giving good 
>>>> deals. It seems scams are all around us. 
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 9:30:31 AM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ted Wood,
>>>>>
>>>>> I got caught up in a spider web with Anita Batya most recently for 
>>>>> those *REW10 WORKS* hex brass valve caps . I was taken for a real 
>>>>> agitating tail spin with her. Still waiting for an answer from Paypal for 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> refund to finalize my interests with her. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>>> Yelm, WA. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:38:13 AM UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Always check the members list at https://groups.google.come before 
>>>>>> replying to wanted post DMs. I was recently scammed out of a *whopping* 
>>>>>> $17 
>>>>>> by not following my own advice. Watch for Anita as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 2:07 PM larson@gmail.com <
>>>>>> larson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had similar responses to my post. Eduardo wanted to sell me an 
>>>>>>> Atlantis MIT frameset for $600.
>>>>>>> Randy in WI
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 12:58:44 PM UTC-5 Josh C wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's good to be careful. It's a weird world these days. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 12:50:16 PM UTC-4 Lucky wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greetings all, 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I posted a want ad yesterday for an Albastache bar and got a 
>>>>>>>>> couple responses from people I’ve never seen here before. I do know 
>>>>>>>>> there 
>>>>>>>>> are lurkers on the list so if Denise and Eduardo Garcia are members 
>>>>>>>>> here 
>>>>>>>>> please follow up with more info. 
>>>>>>>>> It’s a shame we have to worry about scammers all the time now and 
>>>>>>>>> my apologies if I am wrong. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Liz in Sacramento 
>>>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted post worries

2023-07-20 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Just as a reminder, this is a publicly viewable list. 

The contact settings allow members of the group to contact another member. 
Potentially, someone could join just to do so. That would mean that they 
likely have not ever posted to the group, as their postings would be 
moderated until they reach out to me directly. 

If the person shows no history of activity in the group, I'd strongly 
encourage you to confirm they are legitimate. You can easily search by 
member name or email. 

JIm / admin
On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 10:52:53 PM UTC-7 melissa...@gmail.com wrote:

> Bummer. This post came a few days too late. Anita made off with 37 of my 
> hard-earned dollars and no cork grips in sight :'(
>
> On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 11:16:20 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
>
>> Can you even tell if someone posts often, other than just being familiar 
>> with their name? I've been on here for a couple of years but also don't 
>> really post much. I find that most questions I might have are often 
>> answered by a quick search and review of old threads. There is a wealth of 
>> knowledge on this group. It's hard to know if someone is trying to scam 
>> you. I guess using PayPal or some form of protected payment is the way to 
>> go. 
>>
>> On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 11:00:09 AM UTC-4 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I better post more often as I like selling on this list and giving good 
>>> deals. It seems scams are all around us. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 9:30:31 AM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Ted Wood,

 I got caught up in a spider web with Anita Batya most recently for 
 those *REW10 WORKS* hex brass valve caps . I was taken for a real 
 agitating tail spin with her. Still waiting for an answer from Paypal for 
 a 
 refund to finalize my interests with her. 

 Kim Hetzel
 Yelm, WA. 

 On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:38:13 AM UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:

> Always check the members list at https://groups.google.come before 
> replying to wanted post DMs. I was recently scammed out of a *whopping* 
> $17 
> by not following my own advice. Watch for Anita as well.
>
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 2:07 PM larson@gmail.com <
> larson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I had similar responses to my post. Eduardo wanted to sell me an 
>> Atlantis MIT frameset for $600.
>> Randy in WI
>>
>> On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 12:58:44 PM UTC-5 Josh C wrote:
>>
>>> It's good to be careful. It's a weird world these days. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 12:50:16 PM UTC-4 Lucky wrote:
>>>
 Greetings all, 

 I posted a want ad yesterday for an Albastache bar and got a couple 
 responses from people I’ve never seen here before. I do know there are 
 lurkers on the list so if Denise and Eduardo Garcia are members here 
 please 
 follow up with more info. 
 It’s a shame we have to worry about scammers all the time now and 
 my apologies if I am wrong. 

 Liz in Sacramento 
>>>
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>> 
>> .
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[RBW] Re: [SFRandon] OT - recovered Rivendell Atlantis

2023-06-22 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Ha... you beat me to it. 
Thanks Eric.



On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 8:22:46 AM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com wrote:

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> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *Eric Larsen 
> *Subject: **[SFRandon] OT - recovered Rivendell Atlantis*
> *Date: *June 22, 2023 at 7:36:25 AM PDT
> *To: *San Francisco Randonneurs 
> *Reply-To: *ciren...@gmail.com
>
> If you know anyone who had a Rivendell Atlantis stolen from them, please 
> have them contact me off list to identify.
> Eric
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[RBW] Re: Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

2023-06-18 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

I still hold in my mind the comment that GP wrote many years ago:

"A bike with no scratches has no stories to tell..."


On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:15:18 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Did you read Grant’s Blahg? He covers a lot of ground, but most notable to 
> me was the Please Don’t Be Precious About Your Rivendell section. In sum, 
> Grant is saying it saddens him to think of people riding beater bikes 
> instead of their Rivendells to do daily, monotonous tasks - because those 
> tasks make up a lot of real life. If one “saves” their Rivendell, it will 
> not realize its potential, sit mostly unused and then pass to one’s heirs 
> who will sell it in “near mint” condition on EBay, and how sad. What was 
> the bike for?
>
> I have found myself both guilty and innocent on the matter. My #1 favorite 
> bike is my raspberry Platypus. I ride it all the time, because I bought it 
> to ride it, but I also dread any harm coming to it, and I do guard it from 
> that. I got a second Platypus that I dedicated to shopping and traveling 
> with and promised not to be precious about it. But now and then I still am 
> tempted to backslide. When traveling to the Philly Bike Expo I dithered 
> about which bike to bring. I didn’t want my raspberry Platy damaged while 
> locked up at racks and I feared it being stolen. Roberta said, “I don’t 
> think you have a choice, Leah. That’s the bike people will expect you to 
> bring.” And she was right, and I did. 
>
> Then, there is Pam. Pam is at the other far end of the spectrum. Her bike 
> is a model of beausage. Innumerable paint chips and little spots of rust 
> cover her tiny Betty frame. Her Backabike bags are full of holes and the 
> elastic closures are worn out. She locks it up and never worries about it. 
> She did not obsessively stare out the restaurant window to see if it was 
> still locked to the rack while we were at dinner (like yours truly). But 
> she loves her bike, has real affection for it. She looked at me, eyes 
> shining, and said exactly that. Ana, PurpleRiv, is another good example to 
> us. She adores her bike, but has not spared it from hard work. Her bike has 
> hauled obscene loads and taken her everywhere. I remember there was that 
> one fateful camping trip for she 1. Posed it for a photo, only to have it 
> topple and slide down the face of a boulder next to it. I believe she said 
> she sat there and wept for 2 hours over her Joe Bell paint. And who among 
> us would not do the same? 2. Same trip, another photo op, and the bike fell 
> off a cliff. 
>
> So, who truly loves their Rivendell? The one who lavishes it with care and 
> protection? Or the one who pulls it out of the garage and into all of life 
> - the mundane and the adventurous? 
>
> On one end of the spectrum we have those who will only take a Rivendell 
> out for special occasions so as not to spoil it, and on the other…well, we 
> have Pam and Ana, who will give it a good thrashing. (Oh, don’t take it 
> personally, friends, I’m being funny about both types of owners.)
>
> I find myself wanting to be precious but fighting it and succeeding *most* 
> of the time. I’m lucky that the raspberry paint hides beausage and dirt, so 
> it looks pretty new. But a dent in the top tube or a large chip in the 
> paint would really hurt my feelings. Heaven help me. 
>
> Where are you on the spectrum? What words of wisdom might you have? What 
> strategies do you employ? Do you want to change? Or are you 
> unapologetically staying put on the matter? It might be fun to hear 
> perspectives.
> Leah
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Red Toyo Atlantis?

2023-05-04 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Ha! I'd forgotten about that. Gino has been been the temporary steward of a 
lot of very interesting bikes over the years... 

J


On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 12:42:15 PM UTC-8 Jeremy Till wrote:

> I *think* this bike was formerly owned by (former list member?) Gino 
> Zahnd, as evidenced by this photo from 2013, which I faved at the time: 
>
> https://flic.kr/p/f8fyGT
>
> Gino does reference selling it in the comments on the photo.  
>
> -Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA
>
> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:27:02 AM UTC-8 homer...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I very curious about this bike. Honestly, I’ve just never seen a red 
>> Atlantis?
>> Does Anyone know what year this bike was made?
>>
>> Thanx folks 
>>
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/vallejo-rivendell-atlantis-58/7578102714.html
>>
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis Old vs New?

2023-05-04 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

The "2" was on the first Atlantii, to acknowledge that the name had been 
used in the past by Bridgestone 

I have the old Atlantis page yonder - 
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/index.html

There are a few scans of the pertinent flyers.

J
On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 11:47:45 AM UTC-7 MisterMo wrote:

> Is there a place to go to get Atlantis history and updates over the years? 
> ie, was there a Waterford Atlantis? Atlantis to Atlantis2 was? Did Toyo 
> produce Atlanti with both the roundy lugs and the pointy lugs?  How does 
> one tell the difference between Toyo, MIT and Wford? etc, etc. Thanks for 
> pointing me to a place with this info (or providing it here).  
>
> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 4:22:39 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>
>> I don't have an atlantis - but for a long time rode a crust romancuer, 
>> which was somewhat based off the old atlantis's. I thought it was the bees 
>> knees for a long time, but never felt right *for me* especially while 
>> trying to use upright bars. It felt amazing with drops however. Due to neck 
>> injuries and unable to set the bike up in it's best form decided to trade 
>> my Romanceur for a Clementine. It is a day and night difference of ride 
>> with boscos and long top tube and wheelbase. 
>>
>> My summarization would be: 
>>
>> For drop bar setup - an older atlantis would be nice. There are a more 
>> similar bikes available like the older atlantis frames. AKA large tire 
>> clearance touring bikes. Bassi Le Montreal, Crust Romancuer, etc. 
>>
>> For upright bars - the long wheelbase and top tube rivs truly shine in 
>> their comfort, performance, and handling. I don't think there are a lot of 
>> bikes out there outside of rivendell with similar wheelbase and handling 
>> characteristics. I get a bit annoyed with the constant rebuttal that 
>> "they're just over priced 80's mountain bikes" - but they took everything 
>> good about 80s mountain bikes and improved it. Longer wheelbases and top 
>> tubes. Better steering geometry. Higher head tubes. More clearance for 
>> larger tires. Lots of braze on options for racks and bags. etc. 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 8:32:06 AM UTC-7 Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 61cm Toyo-built Atlantis. I had not ridden the bike for about 3 
>>> years due to some unexpected life change circumstances and then a 
>>> repaint/rebuild. I also have a latest-generation 57cm Appaloosa that I have 
>>> owned and ridden during those 3 years for recreation, errands, and 
>>> commuting. The current generation MIT Atlantis is very similar to 
>>> Appaloosa.   I recently got the Atlantis back from a repaint, and it has 
>>> been fun to compare the two bikes. 
>>>
>>> Atlantis
>>> I have ridden this bike for recreation, commuting, and have done several 
>>> loaded tours on it. I like it a lot, I *don't LOVE* it. At least not 
>>> for recreational riding. I tend to grab something else when it's time to go 
>>> play.  (I also own Rivendell: Custom - All Rounder, Custom - Road, Frank 
>>> Jones, HubbuHubbuH, Platypus) Tire widths have ranged 35-48mm. It seems to 
>>> handle a lot better with the wider tires, particularly when descending 
>>> hills on gravel. It *IS *my go to bike for loaded touring and when I 
>>> travel. (This is a weird combination of opposing purposes that I am 
>>> constantly struggling with.) I prefer the position of drop bars and 
>>> appreciate multiple hand options for multi-day rides and long hours in the 
>>> saddle. The more "aerodynamic" position is something MUCH appreciated for 
>>> those eventual day-long headwinds. The bike does have toe overlap with the 
>>> fenders, but this has never been a big deal for me. For the most part, I 
>>> would have a hard time telling you which of my bikes did/didn't.
>>> [image: Atlantis Full.png]
>>>
>>> Appaloosa
>>> I bought the Appaloosa as the keep-handy grab-n-go bike. My confidence 
>>> in upright handlebars was bolstered by the experience of riding and touring 
>>> on the HubbuHubbuH. I like the Bosco bars way more than I expected I ever 
>>> would.  I keep the Appaloosa parked in front of the car making it an easy 
>>> choice for errands and commuting. Unexpectedly, I have found myself riding 
>>> the Appaloosa for recreation too.  The bike rides much "lighter" and 
>>> "faster" than I expected it would.  If I hadn't just got the Atlantis ready 
>>> for summer touring, I would like to try taking the Appaloosa on a 
>>> fully-loaded tour. I think the more casual ride mood that it inspires might 
>>> encourage me to cut back on ambitious daily mileage goals when touring.
>>> [image: Appaloosa.png]
>>>
>>> Summary 
>>> Both bikes provide a lot of enjoyment. If forced to choose between the 
>>> Atlantis or Appaloosa, I would select the Appaloosa. 
>>> What's next or what would I do differently?  I have thought about buying 
>>> another Appaloosa from the next batch and building it up for loaded touring 
>>> so I could reconfigure the Atlan

[RBW] Re: SF Bay Area Trail status update

Beautiful. 
The spring this year is erupting!

J


On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:29:23 AM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:

> [image: IMG_4868.JPG]
>
> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:28:34 AM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_4870.JPG]
>>
>> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:27:45 AM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Glorious in the Headlands!
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_4874.JPG]
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: How to determine the year my Riv was built

Looks like I was off by a year - the Bleriot run ended in 2008 - for those 
interested, there's a link to that thread on the Bleriot page I referenced
https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/mQqL-yBsg_Y

It was kind of an odd arrangement, as it was sold through QBP, which was 
the major US wholesaler of bike equipment at the time (they may still 
be...) 
As you likely know, they were the Taiwan-built version of a a Saluki, a 
model which got folded into the 650B end of the first version of the 
Hilsen. 

I'm not sure if QBP ordered a few runs, or if they just sold through the 
original order. 

Jim / cyclofiend




On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 5:33:30 PM UTC-7 tob...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the info. If they were a single production run bike, then my 
> question is almost a moot point. 
>
> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 4:44:24 PM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
>> Bleriots were only produced for a few years. It may have only been one 
>> run.
>> aught-6 to aught-9 IIRC
>> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/bleriot/index.html
>>
>> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 4:24:08 PM UTC-7 tob...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I own a Bleriot that I purchased second hand, and was curious if there's 
>>> is a way to determine the year it's from?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: How to determine the year my Riv was built

Bleriots were only produced for a few years. It may have only been one run.
aught-6 to aught-9 IIRC
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/bleriot/index.html

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 4:24:08 PM UTC-7 tob...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I own a Bleriot that I purchased second hand, and was curious if there's 
> is a way to determine the year it's from?
>
> Thanks!
>

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[RBW] List Housekeeping: Hotmail and AOL accounts may be problematic

Was cleaning up old spam folders and turned up a few messages from members 
asking why they had been banned from the group. 

They were not people I recall banning (I do actually have a list, and it's 
relatively short - thank you all!), so I checked my admin tools to see 
their status.

None of them showed up on the roster of banned emails.

More oddly, none of them showed up on the list of members (which includes 
"banned" address profiles in addition to active moderated/unmoderated 
members). 

Since 100% of those contacting me about not being able to log in and post 
had either @hotmail or @aol accounts, I'm figuring that there's some issue 
related to that. And I can't really solve that for anyone. 

Just to be explicit - 
You must be logged into your google account to post to this group. 
You may have to figure out why google is no longer recognizing aol or 
hotmail. 

Hope that points you in the right direction!

Jim / list admin




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[RBW] Re: PSA: Watch our for scammers in the group

In the more general sense, I have not received any feedback from active 
members that this was an issue.
It strikes me as part of the due diligence of anyone selling or buying on 
any internet-based group to confirm that someone is who they say they are.

>From the description of this particular problem, it doesn't seem like 
there's a reasonable fix. We can't guard against everyone on the internet 
scraping contact info. If someone off-list contacts you, I'd be wary. But 
that's just good internet hygiene.

Just to be clear - I do not "vet" people on this list. I ask that they take 
the time to reach out and ask to be unmoderated. That seems to self-select 
those who would just want to sell something and leave. 

Honestly, in recent I've been tightening up which FS posts I let through. 
Riv bikes and Nitto and RBW-sold items, sure. But piles of generic road 
components? Yeah...no... Or the person who was trying to sell a C'dale FS 
MTB? No...no. 

For those who have been here a while with full posting permission, I have 
no interest in policing what is getting bought and sold. it is my belief 
that the more the total number of threads skew towards buy/sell, the less 
of an asset this group becomes. I also realize that many appreciate that 
aspect of this group.

Locking this thread. 

Be well, go ride!

Jim 
/admin

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 9:01:01 AM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 5:29:03 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
> I was aware that anyone could view the forums but I (wrongly) assumed that 
> only members could post or message other members
>
>
> Specific to this comment:
> - This is a publicly viewable group
> - Non-members cannot post
> - All new members are moderated (and believe me, not all move past that 
> point...)
> - If you post contact information in your post, it will be viewable.
>
>  
>

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