Re: [RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike

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24" is  a great wheel size. I rushed my kids a bit to get them onto it, but
left them in it a while before moving to 26". It really rolls over bumps
and curbs a lot better than 20". Proportionately like a 29er to them as
Leslie mentioned!

Now scouring CL to find the perfect used 27.5" bike for them! Everything is
really high end, or really low end, hard to find the sweet spot with that
size.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> I wish! He's much too small for the 24, I'm afraid. But thank you, really!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jan 29, 2015, at 7:56 PM, "mikel66...@juno.com" 
> wrote:
> >
> > i have this Trek 220 24" wheel bike for sale. $120 plus shipping
> >
> > mike goldman
> > warwick,r.i.
> > 
> > How Old Men Tighten Skin
> > 63 Year Old Man Shares DIY Skin Tightening Method You Can Do From Home
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Re: [RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike

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If you don't need gears, a vintage Schwinn Bantam is a great bike:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4338741715
Could even build it up w/ a 3 speed if so inclined.



On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:

> I wouldn't worry much about bar height if you're moving to a 20" bike. My
> 90th% son, at just over 7, has a lot of room to grow before his saddle is
> above the bars when I got him this 20" Specialized (picture a ways down on
> this post):
>
> http://www.bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2014/01/bike-and-hatchet-update.html
>
> (and please excuse my horrible mixing of past and present tense in the
> above sentence).
>
> Eric
> Dublin, OH
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:20 PM, LeahFoy  wrote:
>
>> Ok, this sounds doable, all, but is there a Trek mtn bike that is made
>> small enough for a 6 year old? Aren't they adult bikes?
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Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

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Typical road-side repair:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/14137916598

Road-side repair with option bike repair stand:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8649157039

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:58 PM, ascpgh  wrote:

> I keep a round bootlace in my kit, actually tying the waxed canvas wrap
> for my tools to prevent rattling. If roadside repair is needed, I tie it in
> a loop and snag something to suspend my bike by the saddle nose with it.
> Amazing what you'll com e up with and the peculiarity of scale that
> actually works;  a fence, a mailbox, the lowest foot peg on a utility pole
> (or even the nailed-on plate identifying the pole's providence).
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
>
> On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 5:49:03 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> Scratches your leather saddle to turn the bike upside down.
>>
>> In light of the Blog post about this, I figured I would ask you leather
>> users how you prevent the scratching from happening. Any convenient ideas?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa Ride - March 21st

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Hope you can turn that into pen!

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:

> Looks like an awesome event, I'm going to try and squeak it into a work
> trip.  It's on the calendar in pencil for now.
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Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

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Oh yes, there is quite the flipper/layer-downer cleavage in the bike
community.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:28 PM, James Warren 
wrote:

>
> Wow, I've always been a bike flipper. Since long before I heard of
> Bridgestone. And here yet again, is a Riv Blug telling me, "hey, you're
> OK." (I actually never knew there was a possible controversy. I've been a
> bike nerd all this time and haven't known it!)
> "Go P-style and relax." Nice, relaxing quote for the day.
>
>
> On Jan 26, 2015, at 6:07 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
>
> Wait, y'all flip your bikes upside down to change a tire?
>
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:06 PM, BSWP  wrote:
>
>> Not if you run M-bars or Albastaches...or anything besides drops with
>> non-aero levers. Just saying...
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>
>> On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 5:49:03 PM UTC-8, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Another reason why this is, in my book, a faux pas (sorry Willard!)
>>> is- if you're running retrogrouch-approved non-aero brakes, you'll put
>>> that awful crimp in the cables.
>>>
>>> A notable example of this crime-in-progress from BITD appears on the
>>> cover of Richard's Bicycle Book, IIRC!
>>> =- Joe Bunik
>>> Walnut Creek, CA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa Ride - March 21st

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Please note, I misspoke when I said $35. When registering, register at the
$15 membership level, and then the RSR itself is $10 for members. Sorta'
make sense?

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'll be coming down from Santa Rosa, with a guest. Anyone interested in
> carpool/caravanning?
>
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
>
>
> On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 1:07:38 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>>
>> This is not a Rivendell event per se, but it has grown as a direct
>> extension of the SoCal Riv Rides that have been happening for the last four
>> years or so. Most everyone on this list would be comfortable and have a
>> good time here! Not to mention, Rivendell bikes are the perfect all-rounder
>> type rides for this route! This is the second running of it, and the hope
>> down the line is to turn it into a known commodity for event rides and
>> fundraisers, similar to the D2R2. Be part of the early stage so you can
>> look back fondly and say "I rode that back in 2015!"
>>
>> Most of the SoCal people that are coming in usually come down for the
>> day. Out of the area folks have options for motels, but we should be able
>> to find enough rooms, sofas, or tent space for you to spread out in for the
>> night. We're hoping to have a Friday night pre-ride party, as well as a
>> bonus ride in the foothills on Sunday. So really a whole weekend of bike
>> awesomeness!
>>
>> It's also what I would consider a family/spouse/SO-friendly event. Riders
>> that aren't up for the full 100 or 50km can ride with you for the start and
>> then easily peel off back to town. Those not riding can wander about the
>> 125 year old downtown, walk or ride through quaint Craftsman, Arts and
>> Crafts, and Victorian neighborhoods, catch a movie in the beautiful
>> Krikorian theater, browse the Smiley Library, or find a ready stool or
>> booth to spend the afternoon on. Some combination of the above should
>> accommodate just about everyone!
>>
>> After-ride party on Saturday afternoon is family friendly, with a great
>> vibe permeating it.
>>
>> Pictures from last year if you don't believe me: https://www.flickr.com/
>> groups/redlands-strada-rossa/
>>
>> Registration opened up yesterday. The cost is $35 which includes a year's
>> membership in the IEBA (Inland Empire Biking Alliance)
>>  which normally goes for $25. That's a
>> good thing, and it goes 100% to getting more people on bikes in Inland
>> Southern California, and to keeping them safer and happier when they get on
>> them! This is put together and manned by volunteers, and all the income is
>> going straight back into the organization.
>>
>> Registration is here: http://www.iebikingalliance.org/content.
>> aspx?page_id=87&club_id=961736&item_id=398762
>>
>> Facebook updates & info: https://www.facebook.
>> com/events/1562664113989341/
>>
>> Event blog: http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Directions from closest Metrolink station: http://goo.gl/maps/ImYWJ
>> 
>>
>> I hope to see many of you there. I'll be the guy frantically running
>> around in circles!
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Re: [RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

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Wait, y'all flip your bikes upside down to change a tire?

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:06 PM, BSWP  wrote:

> Not if you run M-bars or Albastaches...or anything besides drops with
> non-aero levers. Just saying...
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>
> On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 5:49:03 PM UTC-8, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Another reason why this is, in my book, a faux pas (sorry Willard!)
>> is- if you're running retrogrouch-approved non-aero brakes, you'll put
>> that awful crimp in the cables.
>>
>> A notable example of this crime-in-progress from BITD appears on the
>> cover of Richard's Bicycle Book, IIRC!
>> =- Joe Bunik
>> Walnut Creek, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Vittoria Voager Hyper Tires on Long Low.

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I have a set of Hypers (no not my kids) and am really impressed with them.
They roll really nice and seem to be great construction. Remind me a lot of
Marathon Supremes but at 1/2 the price.

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 4:53 AM, Kieran J  wrote:

> I bought a pair of the 38c (622-40) ones and weirdly they measure 37.2mm
> wide on Mavic A319 rims. They've been sitting inflated for a few days.
>
> KJ
>
>
> On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 6:32:29 PM UTC-5, IanA wrote:
>>
>> It's the middle of winter here, snow on the ground, cold etc., so I
>> thought I'd put some Planet Bike fenders on the Long Low and try some
>> slightly wider tires  Not that I can ride it for a few more months until
>> the snow clears and the roads are cleaned up (I'm commuting by bicycle
>> daily, but on an older mountain bike).  I'm very much looking forward to
>> trying out the Voyager Hypers on the open road when summer comes.  The
>> tires are marked 35mm wide, but measure wider at ~ 60lb of pressure.
>>
>> Some photos:
>>
>> Ian A/Canada
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Re: [RBW] wore out a Soma C-line

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Thanks, Doug.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 5:41 PM, dougP  wrote:

> After well over a year of service and 4,000 miles, the rear Soma C-line
> finally wore out.  Pretty darn good for such a light, comfortable tire.  In
> that time, I only got a couple of flats.  I was somewhat selective about my
> off-roading as I didn't want to shred the sidewalls as I've done to
> Paselas.  All things considered, a highly recommended tire.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 700C Tire suggestion for mixed terrain 200K on Redwood?

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Where did you find MSOs on sale? I've found them to be a great tire for me
and want to get some more.

To OP: If you can fit 'em, the MSOs are fantastic tires. Not slow at all
and I obsess on tires a bit.
If you want a bit smaller, and potentially a bit faster, don't forget about
the Challenge Gravel Grinder. I love Challenge tires, and while never
having used this model, I bet they're great.
http://www.challengetech.it/products/gravel/gravel-grinder-053/en

If you want the narrower 32mm version, the Almanzo is your ticket:
http://www.challengetech.it/products/gravel/almanzo-041/en

The Almanzo and GG are probably faster but less grippy in the dirt than the
MSO and USH. Their side knobs are fairly petite.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:

> After doing some more reading and research, I have found that:
>
> The Clement Xplore MSO comes in 700x32 and 700x40
> The Clement Xplore USH comes in 700x35
>
> I think the USH is more what I have in mind, it has a smooth center
> section with the diamond shaped blocks on the edge.
>
> Here is a review that I found on the Clement site, the guy is a lot
> lighter than me but also carries a much bigger load:
>
> http://newenglandbicyclist.blogspot.com/2014/09/review-clement-ush-60-tpi.html
>
>
> Plus I found the 60 TPI tires on sale for $32, so there is that ;)
>
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Kieran J  wrote:
> > Oh, looks like the MSO comes in 700x32 too. Cool!
> > I enjoy the tread pattern on the MSOs and they do roll well on pavement.
> >
> > KJ
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 6:45:54 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, I found the 700x35 version online, thanks.
> >>
> >> What is the difference between the regular folding tire and the
> >> Adventure tire?  See:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.outsideoutfitters.com/p-24675-clement-xplor-clincher-tires.aspx?variantID=74424&gclid=CjwKEAiAlvilBRC5ueCzkpXb4kgSJADxop1B_-hrXETBIefTSLRXuKZnbnVDzMWPXO3fQPjaR-PwohoC0brw_wcB
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Kieran J  wrote:
> >> > Sounds like you need some manner of CX tire. I've had good luck with
> the
> >> > Clement MSO 700x40 tires but they would likely not fit on the
> Redwood. I
> >> > believe there is a similar version in 700x35 (USH-something or
> rather).
> >> >
> >> > KJ
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 5:34:51 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I own a 200K RUSA permanent that goes from Austin to Lincoln, TX,
> route
> >> >> 2531
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.rusa.org./cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=2531
> >> >>
> >> >> The first time I rode this with a few friends, there was quite a bit
> >> >> more dirt than we were expecting on the stretch between McDade, TX
> and
> >> >> Lincoln, TX.  A 32-38mm slick was not really ideal equipment for
> >> >> riding this stretch.  I had one friend riding 700x32mm Grand Bois,
> one
> >> >> running 700x32mm Stampede Pass and me running 650x38mm LoupLoups.
> >> >>
> >> >> There was quite a bit of sand and soft dirt, along with some gravel
> >> >> and some paved stretches.  Our back tires kept sliding sideways when
> >> >> we were trying to ride through the soft dirt and sand, and we would
> >> >> have to correct.  Thankfully none of us went down, but a couple of
> >> >> times it was close.  It was worse for my friends on the 32s than for
> >> >> me but it still felt real squirrely on the wider tires.
> >> >>
> >> >> What I really want for this ride is something that rolls good on
> >> >> pavement but has some tread to it in order to prevent the rear end
> >> >> slide-outs on soft dirt and sand.  But not so much tread that it digs
> >> >> itself into soft surfaces.
> >> >>
> >> >> The Soma Cazadero would be about perfect I think.
> >> >>
> http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/cazadero-tires-700c650b-x-42mm
> >> >>
> >> >> BUT...my Redwood has 700C wheels and will not fit 700x42.  It would
> >> >> fit 650Bx42 but I have not converted it at this time.
> >> >>
> >> >> I think 700Cx38 would probably fit if I removed the fenders, which I
> >> >> would probably want to do anyway as to not get mud stuck up in them.
> >> >>
> >> >> Any suggestions?  Must roll good on pavement as well.
> >> >>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Parts Purge Continues

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My seatpost came in today, thanks Peter!

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Goshen Peter 
wrote:

> I really understand that people are frustrated, and I am truly sorry.  but
> yes its been the month from hell for me too. Actually just got back from ER
> with my daughter who got the Flu, 105 fever, its really bad here in OCNY.
> The frame and box o parts for another person came back yesterday for
> insufficient postage. I love my wife but she just never does this kind of
> stuff and was trying to help me out. Frame and box o parts are going out
> priority tomorrow by my hands. My wife and daughter are staying with my mom
> as I am the only one not with the flu for the time being. Again, I am very
> sorry to keep people waiting, it isn't out of dishonesty or some ulterior
> motive, its just been a shitty few weeks/month Doc said I might not ride
> again until the spring if they cant get rid of my fluid in lungs so
> probably gonna be off the list after I get these shipping issues dealt with
> as its depressing to read about great ridesstay healthy everyone. I
> will be in touch tomorrow with tracking for various people but feel free to
> email me off list if you have a specific issue. Thanks
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> You're bumping the thread to complain about an issue that's already been
>> explained? The dude ended up in the hospital; this is not usually a planned
>> (or welcomed) occurrence.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Black and cream Sam on the Blug

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Would be cool if that was yours!!! I had an MB-2 and while it was great,
always liked the color on the 1. I can see the greenish tint coming through
on those photos. Like it!

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> I had one of those MB-1's (actually those scratches and the size look
> awfully familiar), and it was really more grey/green than black when the
> sun hit it. Very pretty, and I pity anyone trying to match that exact
> metallic shade. My standard answer for what to call the color was "I don't
> know!" ;)
>
> On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 6:07:36 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>>
>> Jim Thill had an undercover black 'Lantis: https://www.flickr.
>> com/photos/twowheelflight/3321973802
>>
>> I've wanted a black-ish bike ever since the '94 MB-1. It's more of a
>> pewtery/metallic-black, by love it: https://www.flickr.com/
>> photos/teesquare/4958074723
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I live in California and my commuter is a Fiat 500. Your results
>>> may vary ;)
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Re: [RBW] Re: Black and cream Sam on the Blug

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Jim Thill had an undercover black 'Lantis:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/twowheelflight/3321973802

I've wanted a black-ish bike ever since the '94 MB-1. It's more of a
pewtery/metallic-black, by love it:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/teesquare/4958074723

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> vary ;)
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Re: [RBW] Re: Considerations for losing the front deraileure

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Derailer is not that hard to spell???

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

>  On 01/12/2015 04:50 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I roll with Sheldon: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/derailer.html
>
>
> and anyone who can't spell that should stick to internal gear hubs
>
>
> On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 12:44:57 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I know I misspelled deraileure, but I can never figure out how to
>> spell it correctly, so I may as well have fun. Grin.
>>
>>  If I decide to remove my FD, are there any chain concerns I should pay
>> attention to? Perhaps actually paying attention to chain length, for
>> example?
>>
>>  My thinking is I shift so rarely that I end up adjusting the FD for the
>> chain line in my middle ring, it's annoying, and I would find it far less
>> annoying to shift with a finger or stick.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Just Completed: 68cm Rambouillet 650b Land Yacht

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You have four months to get the grips on, so plenty of work left to do!
Looks great, and love it built up with the 650B tires and fenders!

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Kieran J  wrote:

> Hi Alls,
>
> After having a too-small 66cm Ram in 700c for a bit, I recently acquired a
> 68cm frameset from listmember Geoff Wendt (thanks Geoff!). I proceeded to
> build it up in a 650b Alba-barred all-rounder. Something like a pimp pearl
> orange Cadillac. If that doesn't get your juices flowing, I don't know what
> will.
>
> The build includes Compass Babyshoe Pass tires, Grand Bois/A23 wheelset,
> Albas, 130mm Tallux stem, VO 50.4 BCD double, and a couple of Riv bags.
>
> It just needs bar tape at this point. I have about 4 months to complete
> that task, so no rush. It's early January and I've already finished my
> winter project. That's a dangerous spot to be in.
>
> Check it out here:
> Flickr Set
> 
>
> I'm also looking for an Acorn "Handlebar Bag" to hang on the bars. I had
> one in my Acorn shopping cart a week ago, but I was thwarted by their
> anti-Canadian shipping policy. Drop me a line if you have one to sell.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Kieran
> Toronto, Canada
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Re: [RBW] New to me Quickbeam

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A mini-moot!

On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 6:31 PM, DS  wrote:

> haha, or at least all gather for a mini-entmoot!
>
> On Saturday, January 10, 2015 at 5:07:47 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>>
>> I have a silver 'Beam w/ Jitensha bars and the exact same gearing set up!
>> Awesome, we can start a club!!! Or start an awesome club!
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:39 AM, DS  wrote:
>>
>>> Bought this 54cm Silver QB off a fellow RBW member last month and
>>> finally got it built up and took on my first test ride.
>>>
>>> Build:
>>> Stock wheelset
>>> 22t fixed
>>> 16/19 white industries freewheel
>>> 32/40 Sugino crank
>>> Jitensha bars
>>> Panracer 37 tires (though have my eye on some cyclocross tires).
>>>
>>> First ride: https://www.strava.com/activities/239282838/segments/
>>> 5630088831
>>>
>>> I can't praise this bike enough. My actual road bike is definitely going
>>> to take a back seat for a while. This is a ride I do all the time, and I
>>> beat all of my times going up on my road bike, wife's carbon bike, and mtn
>>> bike (not that I was necessarily trying to, but was very surprised to see
>>> on the strava feed after). I think this can be attributed to 1. I just
>>> worked out and was warmed up and ready to ride and 2. New Bike syndrome -
>>> wanted to prove myself, did the same thing on my first hunqapillar ride.
>>> Road 32x19 on the way up, switched to 40 x 16 for the way down and flats.
>>> Couldn't be happier with either of the gearing choices.
>>>
>>> Easily my new favorite bike alongside the Hunqapillar. Man I love
>>> Rivendell bikes.
>>>
>>> Also, in case anyones needs a cheap bar plug for 22.2 bars, the cork and
>>> plastic caps for Bulleit Bourbon bottles work great, not super snug but
>>> snug enough, and if they fall out it just means you get to buy more bourbon!
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen as 650B cyclocross bike? Maybe, thanks to the new Bruce Gordon Rock and Roads

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FYI, don't forget the shared tyre dimension database:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dyYRfhNdFUIbeF1BiQpMyQnhbepy6nxK9DDgd7BhYSk/edit#gid=0
Please enter your findings there!!! :-)

On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 5:32 PM, David Banzer  wrote:

> Anton,
> I installed a pair of these this morning. I measure 43mm from the start
> (I'm using 28mm wide Alesa rims, also I'm lacking digital calipers, so
> eyeballed with cheapo calipers). I was excited to install these, so I
> didn't really check them out too much, but I could've sworn I saw a narrow
> kevlar (?) strip for flat protection in the center. Anyone confirm this? I
> don't think I saw any info about that on BG's site.
> For a "knobby" tire they seem very supple and I'd classify the knob
> pattern as supple rubber as well, pretty flexible. I tried these out in a
> snow-filled park and was surprised how well the tires shedded snow. I was
> sort of expecting the knobs to get packed with snow.
> On pavement, I couldn't really tell much of a difference from a normal
> road tire.
> David
> Chicago
>
>
> On Saturday, January 10, 2015 at 6:13:13 PM UTC-6, Anton Tutter wrote:
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Have you measured the Rock & Roads?  I'm curious how wide they measure
>> after being inflated and ridden a bit. I want to try these on my Stag with
>> Jeff Lyon fork, but the GB crown only offers about 52-54mm of clearance, so
>> the max safe tire width is about 43-45mm.  Also, is there any humming noise
>> from the knobbies on pavement?
>>
>> Anton
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 4, 2015 at 7:16:00 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> The tires did great on my wildcat loop.  A lot of the recent rain has
>>> dried up, so there were only a few true bogs, and most of those had a good
>>> line worn through.   The really wet gloopy ones with that oily wildcat mud
>>> were the pleasant surprise.  That wet stuff the tires cleaned really well.
>>> There was only one stretch where that wet stuff had dried just enough to be
>>> the right peanut butter consistency to pack up the tires.  That was right
>>> before I hit the road so the first mile or so included my tires shooting
>>> little blobs of mud and pebbles back up at me.
>>>
>>> Anybody who thinks these don't look like good road tires, I guarantee
>>> you will be pleasantly surprised.  they roll really nicely
>>
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Re: [RBW] New to me Quickbeam

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I have a silver 'Beam w/ Jitensha bars and the exact same gearing set up!
Awesome, we can start a club!!! Or start an awesome club!

On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:39 AM, DS  wrote:

> Bought this 54cm Silver QB off a fellow RBW member last month and finally
> got it built up and took on my first test ride.
>
> Build:
> Stock wheelset
> 22t fixed
> 16/19 white industries freewheel
> 32/40 Sugino crank
> Jitensha bars
> Panracer 37 tires (though have my eye on some cyclocross tires).
>
> First ride:
> https://www.strava.com/activities/239282838/segments/5630088831
>
> I can't praise this bike enough. My actual road bike is definitely going
> to take a back seat for a while. This is a ride I do all the time, and I
> beat all of my times going up on my road bike, wife's carbon bike, and mtn
> bike (not that I was necessarily trying to, but was very surprised to see
> on the strava feed after). I think this can be attributed to 1. I just
> worked out and was warmed up and ready to ride and 2. New Bike syndrome -
> wanted to prove myself, did the same thing on my first hunqapillar ride.
> Road 32x19 on the way up, switched to 40 x 16 for the way down and flats.
> Couldn't be happier with either of the gearing choices.
>
> Easily my new favorite bike alongside the Hunqapillar. Man I love
> Rivendell bikes.
>
> Also, in case anyones needs a cheap bar plug for 22.2 bars, the cork and
> plastic caps for Bulleit Bourbon bottles work great, not super snug but
> snug enough, and if they fall out it just means you get to buy more bourbon!
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Stolen Atlantis - East Bay

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Please encourage everyone you know to register their bikes on Bike Index:
https://bikeindex.org/

The more bikes on there, the more police departments will know about it,
the better chance at catching criminals and retrieving bikes!

On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 9:27 AM, dougP  wrote:

> Unbelievable effort.  Someone had really scoped out the site, and must
> have had serious cutting equipment.  I've written down the serial numbers
> on our bikes.  That would help ID them in case the thieves are caught and
> the bike has gotten a cosmetic make-over.  Also recall Rivendell is
> maintaining a serial number list.
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 10:48:35 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>>
>> FYI, just saw this: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4838834529.html
>>
>>
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[RBW] Stolen Atlantis - East Bay

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FYI, just saw this: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4838834529.html



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Re: [RBW] Re: 2015 Redlands Strada Rossa

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Spring is great time to come out. Weather will be predictably
unpredictable. Last year it was nearly 90 American for the RSR, but damp
and drizly the next weekend. No weekend is better/worse for everyone, so
throw a dart at the calendar and see what happens!

As for tires, I actually ride pretty thin tires and live with the
consequences. Most of my punctures don't need to be replaced in the field,
they end up as slow leaks I need to deal with the next day. The big trick
is knowing what the things look like and trying to avoid them. That means
if you see a patch of green anywhere, try not to ride over it, as it could
be goathead!

Stick with the Sams, maybe run some tubes filled with Stans or Orange Seal.
Stay out of gutters and where any water runoff accumulates and hope for the
best!!!

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Thanks, Doug. I'm not worried about the terrain and my ability to ride it,
> just the ability of my tires to handle the goat heads. I see you lot
> constantly fixing flats. I haven't had one since I got the Hunqapillar. Now
> I've said it, I'm doomed. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: 2015 Redlands Strada Rossa

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It'll be a good place to be!

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:21 PM, TomT  wrote:

> Looks like fun.
> I'm there.
>
> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 2:49:01 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>>
>> The powers that be just finalized the dates and times for this spring's
>> RSR: March 21st! Up to date info on the official RSR blog:
>> http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/
>>
>> This event is directly inspired from the great social RBW-Google Group
>> rides we have been doing here in SoCal. I wanted to expand upon those, and
>> try to morph those with something similar to the D2R2
>>  which just looks like an amazing
>> event. The RSR is the result, and you are all cordially invited to come
>> over and enjoy the festivities!
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Re: [RBW] Re: 2015 Redlands Strada Rossa

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I could get behind that!

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Mike Schiller 
wrote:

> hey maybe the Pizza place could cater the post ride food!
>
> ~mike
>
> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 7:43:47 PM UTC-8, James Warren wrote:
>>
>> And my favorite pizza on the planet! In downtown Redlands.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: dougP
>> Sent: Jan 8, 2015 5:35 PM
>> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [RBW] Re: 2015 Redlands Strada Rossa
>>
>> While I couldn't ride the event last year, my wife & I rode our Atlantii
>> around town, enjoying the small town community feel of Redlands. Of
>> course, we stayed for the festivities and chatter with the hardy souls
>> who
>> did the ride. Great people, a good cause & some serious bike oggling to
>> do
>> while tipping a pint of the Inland Empire's finest brew.
>>
>> Those in the know bring extra tubes, patches, a real pump and maybe use
>> slimy stuff. It's a perfect chance to try any new & exiting multi-surface
>> tires you may have been lusting after.
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 2:49:01 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > The powers that be just finalized the dates and times for this spring's
>> > RSR: March 21st! Up to date info on the official RSR blog:
>> > http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/
>> >
>> > This event is directly inspired from the great social RBW-Google Group
>> > rides we have been doing here in SoCal. I wanted to expand upon those,
>> and
>> > try to morph those with something similar to the D2R2
>> > which just looks like an amazing
>> > event. The RSR is the result, and you are all cordially invited to come
>> > over and enjoy the festivities!
>> >
>> > It's a 100km mixed-terrain ride in Inland SoCal. This year we are going
>> to
>> > add a 50km half-metric route as well. Both routes are very doable if
>> you're
>> > used to riding that particular distance. There will be some singletrack
>> and
>> > a little bit of busy road, but the VAST majority of each will be on
>> dirt
>> > fire roads and paved back country roads.
>> >
>> > There were 135 riders last year, and we're hoping to grow it to 200
>> this
>> > year. It's NOT a race, but definitely more than a parade, and from my
>> > position there is a fantastic fun vibe permeating the event. Many of
>> the
>> > SoCal usual suspects came over last year, and it definitely has a
>> > Rivendell-friendly feel to it. Super-fast roadies, dual-sus MTBers,
>> > Albatross-riding Rivenistas, professional cyclocross racers and local
>> high
>> > school kids. Just everybody having a good time on a bike! Pics from
>> last
>> > year do get you inspired:
>> > https://www.flickr.com/groups/redlands-strada-rossa/
>> >
>> > In order to make it more of an event, this year we are adding on a
>> Friday
>> > night party, and a second ride up in the hills on Sunday. So if you're
>> > tempted to come out for the day, consider coming out early and/or
>> staying
>> > late! There are motels and business hotels in town, but we can probably
>> > scare up a sofa or a back room somewhere as well. And it's definitely
>> > family friendly. Non-riding family members and significant others
>> should
>> > have a full day exploring the down/area, as well as enjoying the
>> post-ride
>> > party with vegi/vegan food, kegs and live music.
>> >
>> > The Inland Empire Bicycling Alliance who
>> > oversees the event is going to be charging $25 for it. Technically it's
>> not
>> > for the event itself, but for membership in the their non-profit. This
>> > keeps it as a club-member event which helps with insurance as well as
>> > advocacy. Nobody is trying to get rich from this, and your money is
>> going
>> > to support a group that does a LOT of good in the IE. Here's their FB
>> page
>> > if you want to see more of what they're about:
>> > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Inland-Empire-Biking-
>> Alliance/156207984434074
>> >
>> >
>> > Please feel free to contact me directly with any questions!!! I hope to
>> > see a bunch of you in March!
>> >
>> > --
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>> > David
>> >
>> > Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
>> >
>> > "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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[RBW] 2015 Redlands Strada Rossa

[cyclotourist]

The powers that be just finalized the dates and times for this spring's
RSR: March 21st! Up to date info on the official RSR blog:
http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/

This event is directly inspired from the great social RBW-Google Group
rides we have been doing here in SoCal. I wanted to expand upon those, and
try to morph those with something similar to the D2R2
 which just looks like an amazing
event. The RSR is the result, and you are all cordially invited to come
over and enjoy the festivities!

It's a 100km mixed-terrain ride in Inland SoCal. This year we are going to
add a 50km half-metric route as well. Both routes are very doable if you're
used to riding that particular distance. There will be some singletrack and
a little bit of busy road, but the VAST majority of each will be on dirt
fire roads and paved back country roads.

There were 135 riders last year, and we're hoping to grow it to 200 this
year. It's NOT a race, but definitely more than a parade, and from my
position there is a fantastic fun vibe permeating the event. Many of the
SoCal usual suspects came over last year, and it definitely has a
Rivendell-friendly feel to it. Super-fast roadies, dual-sus MTBers,
Albatross-riding Rivenistas, professional cyclocross racers and local high
school kids. Just everybody having a good time on a bike! Pics from last
year do get you inspired:
https://www.flickr.com/groups/redlands-strada-rossa/

In order to make it more of an event, this year we are adding on a Friday
night party, and a second ride up in the hills on Sunday. So if you're
tempted to come out for the day, consider coming out early and/or staying
late! There are motels and business hotels in town, but we can probably
scare up a sofa or a back room somewhere as well. And it's definitely
family friendly. Non-riding family members and significant others should
have a full day exploring the down/area, as well as enjoying the post-ride
party with vegi/vegan food, kegs and live music.

The Inland Empire Bicycling Alliance  who
oversees the event is going to be charging $25 for it. Technically it's not
for the event itself, but for membership in the their non-profit. This
keeps it as a club-member event which helps with insurance as well as
advocacy. Nobody is trying to get rich from this, and your money is going
to support a group that does a LOT of good in the IE. Here's their FB page
if you want to see more of what they're about:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Inland-Empire-Biking-Alliance/156207984434074


Please feel free to contact me directly with any questions!!! I hope to see
a bunch of you in March!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Coldest Ride on a Rivendell Ever?

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Mark, those pictures are fantastic, thanks for them and the write up!

I posted a pic to the winter thread, but here's another one of today's
outing: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/16046526337/

I have no frame of reference for what you did!!!

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:28 AM, hsmitham  wrote:

> All I can say is you guy's are nuts!
>
> Well I'll add this, Mark a really compelling story and adventure...though
> I have to say I'll pay the high real estate prices out here in the land of
> 20C
>
> ~Hugh shivering at 7C Smitham
>   Los Angeles, CA
>
>
> On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 7:37:46 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Over the holidays I got a hair-brained idea to try a really long, cold
>> ride. 165km door-to-door from my apartment to my parents cabin for
>> Christmas. I'd bring my 4-season tent and a new (to me) -30 sleeping bag
>> along and try sleeping out on the frozen lake. I'd done it before in a
>> quinzee, but was eager to try a tent.
>>
>> The temperature was hovering around -12C for most of the week, so I felt
>> really good about it. Then the day before, everything changed.
>>
>> Temperature: -30C, and -40C with the windchill. That's the point where
>> celcius and farenheit meet! The ride would be nearly entirely across the
>> open prairies, so it would be windy. And cold. Very cold. It was too late
>> to back out though, I had told too many people I was going to do it no
>> matter what!
>>
>> Here's the Atlantis kitted up for the rid
>>
>>
>> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-sqXhgL0B7_o/VK6j79NsbLI/JPs/laj-YUT9DoY/s1600/DSC_0143.jpg>
>>
>> I had a North Face 4-season winter tent in one pannier. A North Face -30C
>> sleeping bag in the other. Carradice bag had spare/dry mitts, hat, down
>> jacket, etc. Front bag had camera, food and a pile of chemical hand/toe
>> warmers.
>>
>> Here's a photo a family member took of me while I was about 45km into the
>> ride. She had just asked me if I was having fun.
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w7B0Z1THRG4/VK6kIGvURUI/JP0/2ItIledp7Ho/s1600/DSC_0187.jpg>
>>
>>
>> And a few more from the ride.
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tmkaUJn9Tlk/VK6itmfCdTI/JPE/tjawN72KYZQ/s1600/DSC_0159.jpg>
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ddyyOU7Qq5Y/VK6izR2jl7I/JPM/d3HDei6RxAw/s1600/DSC_0180.jpg>
>>
>>
>> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-YAuZ70UNjak/VK6i3w7Ul9I/JPU/Fe6VCgePwJ4/s1600/DSC_0194.jpg>
>>
>>
>> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-bUJ4WKBd9ek/VK6i9WoSLCI/JPc/XTabLEyehKo/s1600/DSC_0259.jpg>
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_JsCOMXyQqU/VK6jBf77VoI/JPk/G1sZtCo5OkY/s1600/DSC_0273.jpg>
>>
>> In the end I only made it halfway there. 85km later my toes had finally
>> frozen solid, and the sun was starting to get pretty low. I was riding with
>> my dad, who's face had begun to blister and turn white from frostbite. We
>> were out for 5 hours. Later in the week, I was in the emergency room for a
>> minor cut and met two people who had turned their hands completely black
>> from exposure on that day, after being outside less than 10 minutes each. I
>> felt pretty good about my 5 hours.
>>
>> When I arrived at the cabin, the warmth of the fire and blankets was too
>> much to overcome. I spent the night warm and toasty, which I do not regret
>> at all.
>>
>> I'm going to attempt a much shorter overnight in a few weeks though, so I
>> can test out the winter camping gear.
>>
>> Get out there!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Welcome Wagon [Share Your Pics]

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Another orange 'Beam in it's natural envirnoment this morning:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/15612531533/
Overheated by the end of it in a t-shirt and wool pullover.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Cyclofiend Jim 
wrote:

>
> Ha!  As I've said over the years, this is when the folks out in California
> get very quiet
>
> But, Saturday's ride _did_ require tights, warm socks and two layers of
> wool under the wind vest...
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/16001467278/
>
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Re: [RBW] FS: 50cm Rambouillet (Blue) complete $1300/obo + shipping

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Perfect!!!

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:16 AM, johnb  wrote:

> Monica has a new-to-her bike. :-) Bike sold.
>
> On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:44:44 PM UTC-5, Monica Way wrote:
>>
>> Oh, and perhaps that was unclear. No, I have NOT been able to retrieve my
>> stolen Rambouillet yet, but I'm still diligently trying!
>>
>> Monica
>> On Dec 29, 2014 12:09 PM, "Monica Way"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> Such a beautiful bicycle you have! I had my 50cm Rambouillet stolen from
>>> my home in North Berkeley in November. Yours looks lovely, a slightly
>>> different hue of blue than mine was. Beautiful.
>>>
>>> I'm interested!
>>>
>>> Are you in the Bay Area, by chance?
>>>
>>> I've CC'd the group so folks know I know about it. I've had quite an
>>> outpouring of support to help me retrieve mine.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Monica
>>> On Dec 28, 2014 12:10 PM, "johnb"  wrote:
>>>
 I am selling a bike that I picked up here a little less than two years
 ago. This is a great bike. I am just going in a different direction. It
 will also include the Testers paints that make up the replacement color.
 There are some paint dings that I have tried to capture in the Flickr set.
 The items that are bolded are upgrades from the original.

 Frame/fork: 50cm Rivendell Rambouillet (blue)
 Headset: Shimano Ultegra
 Stem: Nitto Technomic Deluxe
 Handlebars: Nitto Noodle 41cm with Lizardskins white tape.
 *Brake levers: Tektro 341 (340s for smaller hands)*
 *Shifters: Dura Ace bar end (8 speed)*
  *Brakes: Paul Medium Racer *
 Cranks: Sugino XD triple (170mm)
 Front Der.: Shimano 105
 Rear Der.: Shimano Ultegra
  Hubs: Shimano 105
 T*ires: Compass 1.5" x 26"*
 *Cassette: 8 spd (I think it could be 105)*
 *Front rack: Nitto Mark's Rack*
 Rims: 26". Not sure here. Came from Rivendell without stickers.Either
 way the rims are classic Riv and have been great.


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 bunch/Rambouillet$2050cm/rbw-owners-bunch/Gryr5R-Rivg/W2PjYo7h9OwJ
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/jbusteed/sets/72157649974206861/

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Re: [RBW] Wow, I mean, just wow

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Hand-brazed by Mike Sinyard!

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Chris Chen  wrote:

> Not Rivvy, but lugged and totally up most people's alleys but more like
> those $100 water bottles:
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Specialized-Stumpjumper-original-No-3XX-of-500-Vintage-History-Classic-/301473293725?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item463135659d
>
> I don't know whether to laugh or cry
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Re: [RBW] Paul Jono Hub?

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Pricing is amazing.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:

> I know Paul Components is thought of well around here, I love the brakes
> and levers I have for sure.  One of their niche hubs just went on sale, the
> Jono... anyone have any experience w/ them?  It's got an incredibly
> adjustable axle allowing you to build it up as anywhere from 120-135mm OLD
> and use a multi-speed freewheel.  I happen to have a '70s ish era frame w/
> narrow spacing around that is right now limited to single speed/fixie use
> b/c I don't have a narrower multispeed hub so it's pretty compelling at
> $105 new from Paul.  I'd been stalking a couple vintage used hubsets on the
> auction site but hadn't pulled the trigger.  I figure I can't go wrong w/ a
> Paul hub but I figured I'd check in with the group!
>
> http://www.paulcomp.com/jonohub.html
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Re: [RBW] Knobbies for 26" Atlantis

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My $.02:

Thunder Burts are really fast on road, and have a good edge profile for
dirt. They wear quickly though.

They have a flat profile, so dig in really well in the dirt, but feel a bit
sketchy at high speed road cornering. LIke 'em a lot and very happy with
them in 650B size!

I've never used the Sams, but it looks like they may have slightly more
pronounced center knobs, so would therefore be a bit slower on road, with a
bit more grab on dirt.



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> I have Maxxis Holy Rollers on mine.  I got a good deal on a pair of used
> ones and I like the way they look.  I'm a knobby novice, but admit they
> roll better on pavement than I expected.
>
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Re: [RBW] 59cm Roadeo for sale

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The Minister of Finance can often be swayed by a well placed recommendation
from the Minister of Health. An investment in a healthy populace pays off
dividends over time. The long-view is needed in these matters.

On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Bill  wrote:

> Gawd. It's my size. A really, really good price. I don't need to see
> pictures to know it's right. I already have seven bikes. I don't NEED
> another one.  Must  be strong. Somebody please jump on this and save me
> from the wrath of the House Minister of Finance should I cave in a moment
> of weakness.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report: O'Neill Park in Orange County California

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A real good time out. Would like to have met up down there, but you know,
stuff.
Great to hear about your phone!

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:27 PM, drew beckmeyer 
wrote:

> awesome!  i never considered orange county as a camping possibility.
>  might have to make the trip down from la. looks beautiful.
>
> On Monday, January 5, 2015 1:34:13 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Went for my first overnight of 2015 last weekend.
>>
>> Took the train from downtown San Diego to Irvine last Saturday.  Rode a
>> very pleasant 17 miles or so to O'Neill Park in Eastern Orange County.  The
>> ride was mostly on bikeway and dirt paths.
>>
>> Night time temps dropped to the low 30's despite the warmth of a full
>> moon. Woke up to a good deal of frost on the tent fly come morning.  On the
>> trail by 6:30 am to catch an early train back to San Diego.
>>
>> A very nice time even considering the loss of my phone.  A poorly turned
>> turn buckle allowed the phone to bounce out.  The phone was found and
>> returned the very same day.  People are awesome.
>>
>> Here are a few pictures:  https://www.flickr.com/
>> photos/97010676@N07/sets/72157650114997061/
>>
>> Ride well,
>>
>> Curtis
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Re: [RBW] SoCal snowfall

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I REALLY wanted to get out and ride to/in the rare local snow, but have
just today gotten over a virus that knocked me out starting on New Years
Eve.

Maybe next decade!!!


On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 4:29 PM, dougP  wrote:

> The recent snowfall in southern California was a major newsworthy event
> here locally.  It happened a couple of days before our regular Friday group
> headed for Silverado Canyon, a beautiful area in rural Orange County (yes,
> we still have a bit of that).  The canyon narrows as it climbs, and toward
> the end does not get direct sunlight during the shortest days of winter.
> We were forced to turn around (well, we really quit) a couple of miles form
> the end by black ice on the roadway.  The Soma C-lines on my Atlantis were
> never intended for this!
>
> Here's a photo at about mid-day of one of my touring buds on his 90s era
> Lighthouse custom lugged steel racing bike:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/33786397@N03/15578134374/
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Years Eve and Day S36O

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Again, he's consistent!

On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 9:13 PM, dougP  wrote:

> The orange shirt goes with the orange fork.
>
> dougP
>
> On Friday, January 2, 2015 5:18:00 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Andy is pretty consistent if nothing else: https://www.flickr.com/photos/
>> cyclotourist/4321297536/in/set-72157623199952479
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 4:34 PM, dougP  wrote:
>>
>>> "Bikes built by the philosophy of fun"now there's a novel concept!
>>> And I think Andy has figured out how to be popular on a bike ride.  Is the
>>> T-shirt'n'shorts guy perhaps a wayward Minnesotan?
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 1, 2015 11:24:59 PM UTC-8, James Warren wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rode with bro and nephew to the Headlands. Stayed at the Hostel. Had a
>>>> great time. That was New Years Eve.
>>>> New Years Day: Met up with some famous folks you'll see in the photos.
>>>> Did a big Headlands ride. Coffee Man was a huge hit. And check out the New
>>>> Momentum Magazine with its Rivendell article with photos by Manny Acosta!
>>>>
>>>> Some sort of baton was passed from the spirit of rides past to the
>>>> spirit of rides future, or something like that. Either way, I'm a lucky
>>>> person. Twenty photos:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157650002564386/
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Years Eve and Day S36O

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Andy is pretty consistent if nothing else:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4321297536/in/set-72157623199952479

On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 4:34 PM, dougP  wrote:

> "Bikes built by the philosophy of fun"now there's a novel concept!
> And I think Andy has figured out how to be popular on a bike ride.  Is the
> T-shirt'n'shorts guy perhaps a wayward Minnesotan?
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Thursday, January 1, 2015 11:24:59 PM UTC-8, James Warren wrote:
>>
>>
>> Rode with bro and nephew to the Headlands. Stayed at the Hostel. Had a
>> great time. That was New Years Eve.
>> New Years Day: Met up with some famous folks you'll see in the photos.
>> Did a big Headlands ride. Coffee Man was a huge hit. And check out the New
>> Momentum Magazine with its Rivendell article with photos by Manny Acosta!
>>
>> Some sort of baton was passed from the spirit of rides past to the spirit
>> of rides future, or something like that. Either way, I'm a lucky person.
>> Twenty photos:
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157650002564386/
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Re: [RBW] New Years Eve and Day S36O

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Andy just has to make sure there's coffee on a ride! And if he's bring it
for one, he might as well bring it for 10!!!
Sounds like a great time on the Headlands.
And congratulations to Manny for the pics, they look great!

On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 11:24 PM, James Warren 
wrote:

>
> Rode with bro and nephew to the Headlands. Stayed at the Hostel. Had a
> great time. That was New Years Eve.
> New Years Day: Met up with some famous folks you'll see in the photos. Did
> a big Headlands ride. Coffee Man was a huge hit. And check out the New
> Momentum Magazine with its Rivendell article with photos by Manny Acosta!
>
> Some sort of baton was passed from the spirit of rides past to the spirit
> of rides future, or something like that. Either way, I'm a lucky person.
> Twenty photos:
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bay Area RBW meetup group? ride or camping?

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Looks like a great route! Too bad I'm home with a cold.
That and being 500 miles to the south... :-(

On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 7:52 AM, DS  wrote:

> Just a quick reminder. Depart Rockridge BART at 9-9:15 for a social ride
> out to Rivendell BBH. Thinking this as a route, but open to suggestion:
> https://goo.gl/maps/d9cPA. It is a bit of climbing so we can cheat if
> that is an issue (ie, skip three bears and take a more direct route). I
> need to be back in Rockridge by 2 at the latest. I'll be at the station by
> the Rockridge sign with the green Hunq.
>
> I'll post in the new group I setup, just wanted to cross post for this
> first one in case anyone didn't see on the other one.
>
> Next ride is Sunday, February 2.
>
> See you there!
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Re: [RBW] Favorite weather to ride in.

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65F and sunny makes me as happy as can be.
I can ride up to 95F, but above that it's just not fun. I have to be pretty
motivated to go out anything less than 60F.

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:

> 65-85 with low humidity is the best for me.
> On Dec 31, 2014 4:48 PM, "Curtis McKenzie"  wrote:
>
>> Here in East San Diego we have had a cool day.  About 52 degrees
>> Fahrenheit (11 degrees Celsius) with fun sun and a light breeze at 2:30
>> pm.  I really like the cool temps, so I was wondering what is your favorite
>> riding weather.  For me it is what I experienced to day.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

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Hmmm, I'm guessing there's enough clearance on the regular diamond 29er to
make it into a B+ bike:
http://www.jonesbikes.com/steel-diamond-unicrown-bicycle/

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Mike Shaljian 
wrote:
>
> ***96cm PBH
>
> And this model is sized at 63.5cm seat tube, very close to my 64cm Sam H.
>
> On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 7:06:34 PM UTC-8, Mike Shaljian wrote:
>>
>> Call it heresy if you wish, but I think the Ultimate gravel and
>> bikepacking bike may have actually arrived: http://www.jonesbikes.com/
>> jones-plus-xt-bb7-build-complete-bicycle-pre-order/
>>
>> I talk to Jeff for two hours about my riding, preferences and wishes for
>> an all-terrain, all-use bike and this really seems like the best possible
>> option. I'm thinking this fits all of the requirements that Jan Heine
>> talked about in the Oregon Outback article from BQ. And fortunately, it is
>> sized to fit giant people with 86cm PBH's. It really may be a bike with no
>> compromises.
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:15:24 PM UTC-8, Mike Shaljian wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the insight, John. It seems that 45mm-max is the verdict for
>>> a Sam H.
>>>
>>> If I wanted the ideal Rivendell for the O.O, it does seem like the
>>> Hunqapillar would be the bike, riding a 55mm touring tire like the Schwalbe
>>> Almotion. I am considering a used 62cm Hunqapillar as a possibility right
>>> now. It seems that my dream of having just one bike to truly "do it all"
>>> would lead to more compromises than I want. Having an always fendered,
>>> go-fastish Sam H. with 38mm Barlow Pass tires and a more beefy Hunqapillar
>>> with studs/fenders in the winter and 50+mm tires in the dry 7 months of the
>>> year here seems like a nice approach, but I'm still considering all of the
>>> possibilities.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 7:36:21 AM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:

 Don't know if it is too late to post on this thread or not but this is
 a topic I've had very recent experience with.  I'm currently riding
 Schwalbe Mondial 40's with fenders on my new to me 56 Hillborne (the one
 with cantis).  I'm sure it would easily take 45's if I take off the
 fenders.  I seriously doubt I'd get 50's on there.  It would be tight.  The
 geometry charts for the 56 SH stated 45 as the max size.  I think that
 might be a good call.  The one thing I was surprised to find out was how
 much rim width mattered.  My rims are 24mm wide and all the Schwalbes
 measure almost actual size (Mondial 40 = 39.7 with calipers).  When I rode
 a Surly Cross Check with Schwalbe Marathon 42's, the rims were 20mm and the
 tires measured 38 or 39mm with calipers.  If I were to buy again, I'd be
 tempted to buy to sets of tires.  45 knobbies to run without fenders and 35
 Supremes to run with for road adventures.  I may get a second set of wheels
 in the future to have the easier swapping capability.  If I can figure out
 a quick release for the SKS fenders, I'd be all set (If anyone has a
 solution, please pass it on).  In the meantime, I'm hanging on to my SOMA
 Groove and looking to put even fatter tires on that.

 John


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>
> So I currently have my Sam Hillborne as my only bike, though I was
> considering adding a front suspension/disc-brake mountain bike to the
> stable. There's a deal for a Jamis 650B dragon pro on the interwebs now 
> for
> $1400, but I'm thinking I could rather add a second set of very nice 
> wheels
> with fatter tires instead. My main reason to do this is so that first of
> all, I can have a set of slicks and a set of studded tires in the winter,
> as I live in a very icy/snowy area and am bummed out by having just 
> studded
> tank tires to ride in winter. Beyond that, I want to have a set of wheels
> with a 55mm-ish tire that can handle most gravel/firetrail/light
> singletrack in a ride like the Oregon Outback, as I am hoping to actually
> do that ride this summer. It would also just be nice to have this set of
> wheels that can handle more aggressive off-road riding to go explore
> different areas where I'm at (Eastern Washington).
>
> So, I guess the question I pose to the group is: better to have a
> second, cheap-ish mountain bike or a second set of really nice wheels to
> maximize the All-Rounderness of a Hillborne? I've been thinking also about
> Jan Heine's opinion that a rigid all-road bike with fat tires is the
> "Porsche 911" of a gravel-orientated ride, and I want to stick with that
> plan. Also, what are some ideas about the best tire model to do this kind
> of riding? I think that 50-54mm with a moderately aggressive tread would 
> be
> perfect, but I'm wondering if there is something better than the Smart 
> Sam?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam on Balto Clist for sale

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It looks like *our* size!!!

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Seems pricey. And a good lesson about the value of buying a built bike,
> over a bare frame.
> And the "stance" could be better... :^)
>
> Just sour grapes, 'cause I want it!
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
>
>
> On Monday, December 29, 2014 9:35:42 PM UTC-8, lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> I don't know the seller or the item.
>>
>> Here is the link: https://baltimore.craigslist.org/bik/4821883237.html
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Blue 56 Rambouillet, $ 700 f/f/hs

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SoCal needs every Riv it can can get!!!

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:30 AM, allenmichael  wrote:
>
> It looks like the Rambouillet is sold. Delivery to LA in late January.
>
>
> On Sunday, December 28, 2014 11:03:22 AM UTC-8, allenmichael wrote:
>>
>> I have an orange 58 that I love. I bought this wanting to compare the
>> ride of the 56 and 58 but haven't built it up, and now I'm getting ready to
>> move.
>>
>> In the next 30 days, I will be in SF (where I live now), LA (where I'll
>> be visiting), and Portland (where I'm moving). I can deliver to any of
>> these places. Pick up is wonderful. I would prefer to avoid shipping.
>>
>> If you are interested in any parts, or are missing any for your build, I
>> have just about everything to build it up.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Farewell 2014 Ride, Marin County, CA

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Love, love, love it!

On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Cyclofiend Jim 
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> Nice!
> Blessed with glorious weather and, I must say, stellar company!
> And a classic route to sample this neck of the woods.
>
> - Jim / cyclofiend.com
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Re: [RBW] Lucky

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Nice box art as well. Sean @ Riv?

On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Chris Chen  wrote:
> P50s and Compass 650b x 42 Babyshoe Pass tires fit on the 58 Hilsen just
> right. Seeing how I couldn't fit anything bigger than a 700 x 40 Clement MSO
> on the 57, this is a welcome surprise.
>
> Had to switch to Paul centerpulls to give me additional clearance for the
> fenders though. I'm not crying.
>
> What. A. Neat. Bike.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/15937151919/
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Re: [RBW] Advice on sizing please.

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Hi Mike, you didn't mention how she and you are going to be setting
the bikes up. Albatross or other upright bars add a bit of flexibility
to frame sizing, but drops need to be a better fit IMHO.

I've found that many women have reach considerations with typically
(male) sized bikes. They end up having to size down to get the reach
shorter, but then the bars end up being too low. Sight unseen is
tough...

I'm an 89cm pbh, and a 61 X 59 frame fits me perfectly no matter what
bars I put on it.

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> I am preparing to order my wife an Atlantis. Her PBH is 81.3cm or 32 in. She
> is very wary of getting a bike site unseen as we have been sold bikes too
> small  in the past. I am a huge fan of Rivendell's way of thinking but want
> to be sure we get the right frame size to allow a comfortable upright riding
> position. Any thoughts on frame sizes ?  While we're at it i will probably
> order myself an Atlantis after March. My PBH is 88.9cm or 35 in. Suggestions
> for me?  Thanks in advance and i really enjoy the Group.  Thanks,Mike S.
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Hunqapillar on CL Modesto for $2,000

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At this rate, by President's Day Weekend it'll be up to $7000 listing!

On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Goshen Peter  wrote:
> But wait, its back for $500 more! An xmas miracle!!
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Hunqapillar-58cm-/221643985524?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item339b02d274
>
> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 7:31 PM, cyclotourist 
> wrote:
>>
>> Auction ended: http://www.ebay.com/itm/221642024496 Guess someone came
>> up with the right price in cash!
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:31 AM, cyclotourist 
>> wrote:
>> > That 62cm is Eric J's.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:30 AM, cyclotourist 
>> > wrote:
>> >> That's actually the build I would much prefer. Noticed there's a 58cm
>> >> Quickbeam as well.
>> >>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Hunqapillar on CL Modesto for $2,000

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Auction ended: http://www.ebay.com/itm/221642024496 Guess someone came
up with the right price in cash!

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:31 AM, cyclotourist  wrote:
> That 62cm is Eric J's.
>
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:30 AM, cyclotourist  wrote:
>> That's actually the build I would much prefer. Noticed there's a 58cm
>> Quickbeam as well.
>>
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Re: [RBW] stripped braze-on

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Both answers are good ones. In fact, chase the threads, and then use a
longer bolt w/ a nylock!

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 9:58 PM, lungimsam  wrote:
> Without a pic I am guessing you mean the threaded cylinder brazed to the seat 
> stay?
> Maybe just use a nylock nut with a new bolt? Is that ok to use for a cylinder 
> like that?
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Hunqapillar on CL Modesto for $2,000

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That 62cm is Eric J's.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Hunqapillar on CL Modesto for $2,000

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That's actually the build I would much prefer. Noticed there's a 58cm
Quickbeam as well.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Hunqapillar on CL Modesto for $2,000

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I guess that must be it... that just doesn't even occur to me.

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 6:03 AM, David Banzer  wrote:
> I'd guess someone's trying to flip it for profit.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, December 22, 2014 11:09:44 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Well that's kinda' weird... wonder why the price discrepancy between the
>> two?
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Dave Brandt  wrote:
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>> > http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=221642024496
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[RBW] PSA: 58cm Quickbeam FS East Bay

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http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4814586180.html



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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Hunqapillar on CL Modesto for $2,000

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Well that's kinda' weird... wonder why the price discrepancy between the two?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Stem-shifting retrofit

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I found some bases and complete old-timey sets. So far it appears that
bolt size/threads are different than modern M5, but after that is
figured out, I may be able to get something to work.

On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 2:47 PM, James Warren  wrote:
> One of those things that got swept away with the cheesy things of the past
> even though it was not a cheesy thing. Guilt by association.
>
> I think the fact that stem shifters have made a tiny comeback is a sign of
> how good they are. Forum member Beth H brought them to my attention on good
> new bikes probably over 15 years ago in a Riv Reader.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Dec 20, 2014, at 2:40 PM, dougP  wrote:
>
> The ones I have are old style, I think.  They are those ratchety kind like
> came on cheap bikes.  The mechanism feels similar to Sun Tour barcons.  They
> may even be Sun Tour.
>
> dougP
>
> On Saturday, December 20, 2014 12:58:54 PM UTC-8, James Warren wrote:
>>
>> Plug for the new IRD mounts here. I love stem shifting with new 9-speed
>> shifters.
>> If you can make it work with old mounts, that will be cool! If you decide
>> it won't work and mow some lawns, splurging on the IRDs would probably be
>> satisfying.
>>
>> Are the ones from Doug old style or IRDs?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 20, 2014, at 12:45 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
>>
>> > Let me go through the parts bin this afternoon and see what happens!
>> > Thanks for the offer!
>> >
>> > On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 12:14 PM, dougP  wrote:
>> >> David:
>> >>
>> >> I just remembered I've got a complete stem shifter set-up that someone
>> >> on
>> >> the list gave to me.  It's yours if you want it.  No idea about what it
>> >> looks like when you take the levers off.
>> >>
>> >> dougP
>> >>
>> >> On Saturday, December 20, 2014 7:48:52 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> The bar-end, downtube, shem shifting discussion elsewhere has me
>> >>> thinking: Can a modern-ish nine speed indexed shifter be mounted on an
>> >>> old-timey five speed stem-shifter clamp? If so, I bet I could scare
>> >>> one up down at the co-op.
>> >>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Stem-shifting retrofit

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Let me go through the parts bin this afternoon and see what happens!
Thanks for the offer!

On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 12:14 PM, dougP  wrote:
> David:
>
> I just remembered I've got a complete stem shifter set-up that someone on
> the list gave to me.  It's yours if you want it.  No idea about what it
> looks like when you take the levers off.
>
> dougP
>
> On Saturday, December 20, 2014 7:48:52 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> The bar-end, downtube, shem shifting discussion elsewhere has me
>> thinking: Can a modern-ish nine speed indexed shifter be mounted on an
>> old-timey five speed stem-shifter clamp? If so, I bet I could scare
>> one up down at the co-op.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Stem-shifting retrofit

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I have bailing wire, a hammer, and duct-tape!

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[RBW] Stem-shifting retrofit

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The bar-end, downtube, shem shifting discussion elsewhere has me
thinking: Can a modern-ish nine speed indexed shifter be mounted on an
old-timey five speed stem-shifter clamp? If so, I bet I could scare
one up down at the co-op.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Updated 'Beam

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Yes, an aft hub shiner!

I love how I was able to find most of my upgrades (lateral grades?)
through the good-people of the RBW list here. Either actively looking
through a WTB request or tripping across something offered for sale.
Said it before and will say it again: This is a great little corner of
the internet. The Supreme Council approves!

The bike is 100% functional, and built up for town use with bolt on
wheels and chained on seat (I'll eventually get security bolts for
post and seat). It also has a wheel/cafe lock on it which I love, but
don't 100% trust. I think that in combination with the chain, they're
pretty secure though.

Paint is lack of color: It's a clear powdercoat of semi-raw tubes. I
love the clear powder coats, so having that on this bike was just an
added bonus!

Thanks for the kind words and taking a peak at it!

On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
> A fitting steed for a member of the Supreme Council!
>
> With abandon,
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[RBW] Updated 'Beam

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/15874405780/

Over the last few months, I've put on new fenders (thanks John!),
cranks (thanks Philip!), pedals (thanks David!), and kickstand (thanks
Rivendell!). The rack and basket were taken from another bike, and the
bell was purchased on ebay. It's a damn fine bike (thanks Ron!) that I
ride just about everywhere around town. Taking the kids to school,
picking up CSA share, books to/from the library, going out to
lunch/movies... absolutely everywhere I can!

So I'm stoked that it's finally build up and personalized for my
heeds. It's a great bike!
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Hunqapillar on CL Modesto for $2,000

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I was gearing up for this one myself... nice wheelset, great custom
color, thoughtful build.

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 9:12 PM, rw1911  wrote:
> Huh. I really don't need another bike, but would have paid the asking.  Too
> bad they didn't reply.  I see it's gone, hopefully to someone on the list.
> Hit me up if you'd like to make a quick 150.  :-)
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 18, 2014 11:19:28 PM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:
>>
>> I just saw it dropped to $1850.  Nice specs.  Wish I fit a Hunq 58 (I'm
>> more of a 54).
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:43:51 PM UTC-8, Evan wrote:
>>>
>>> FYI. Not mine. Good price, right?
>>>
>>> http://modesto.craigslist.org/bik/4808493534.html
>>>
>>> Modesto is a one-hour drive from Walnut Creek. I sent the seller an email
>>> yesterday (Tuesday) and heard not a peep, but perhaps one of you-all could
>>> inquire, get a reply, and actually buy this bike. It's likely too tall for
>>> me.
>>>
>>> Evan E.
>>> SF, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Hunqapillar on CL Modesto for $2,000

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"This posting has been deleted by its author."

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Surlyprof  wrote:
> I just saw it dropped to $1850.  Nice specs.  Wish I fit a Hunq 58 (I'm more
> of a 54).
>
> John
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:43:51 PM UTC-8, Evan wrote:
>>
>> FYI. Not mine. Good price, right?
>>
>> http://modesto.craigslist.org/bik/4808493534.html
>>
>> Modesto is a one-hour drive from Walnut Creek. I sent the seller an email
>> yesterday (Tuesday) and heard not a peep, but perhaps one of you-all could
>> inquire, get a reply, and actually buy this bike. It's likely too tall for
>> me.
>>
>> Evan E.
>> SF, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Hunqapillar on CL Modesto for $2,000

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I sent an email last night, but no response.

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 3:12 PM, rw1911  wrote:
> Has anyone inquired and received a response?
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 18, 2014 12:43:51 AM UTC-5, Evan wrote:
>>
>> FYI. Not mine. Good price, right?
>>
>> http://modesto.craigslist.org/bik/4808493534.html
>>
>> Modesto is a one-hour drive from Walnut Creek. I sent the seller an email
>> yesterday (Tuesday) and heard not a peep, but perhaps one of you-all could
>> inquire, get a reply, and actually buy this bike. It's likely too tall for
>> me.
>>
>> Evan E.
>> SF, CA
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Re: [RBW] FS: 58cm Hunqapillar on CL Modesto for $2,000

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It would be well-earned!!!

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 10:40 PM, James Warren  wrote:
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> Am I gonna be making a delivery to Redlands and getting some free pizza soon?
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: cyclotourist 
>>Sent: Dec 17, 2014 9:48 PM
>>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>>Subject: Re: [RBW] FS: 58cm Hunqapillar on CL Modesto for $2,000
>>
>>Oh my...
>>
>>On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Evan  wrote:
>>> FYI. Not mine. Good price, right?
>>>
>>> http://modesto.craigslist.org/bik/4808493534.html
>>>
>>> Modesto is a one-hour drive from Walnut Creek. I sent the seller an email
>>> yesterday (Tuesday) and heard not a peep, but perhaps one of you-all could
>>> inquire, get a reply, and actually buy this bike. It's likely too tall for
>>> me.
>>>
>>> Evan E.
>>> SF, CA
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Re: [RBW] FS: 58cm Hunqapillar on CL Modesto for $2,000

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Oh my...

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Evan  wrote:
> FYI. Not mine. Good price, right?
>
> http://modesto.craigslist.org/bik/4808493534.html
>
> Modesto is a one-hour drive from Walnut Creek. I sent the seller an email
> yesterday (Tuesday) and heard not a peep, but perhaps one of you-all could
> inquire, get a reply, and actually buy this bike. It's likely too tall for
> me.
>
> Evan E.
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Re: [RBW] Re: [650B] Re: and now a 42mm 650B Pasela

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I may be unusual (some would say that's obvious), I've never paid more
than $20 for a Pasela. Usually in the $15 range.

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 7:04 PM, JL  wrote:
> These don't seem to have a boutique price to me. $50 per tires at a brick
> and mortar shop seems about right for a Pasela PT in (almost) 2015. Last
> time I priced Pasela TG in 700c they were $45ish. This same 650b tire in
> wire bead has a riv retail of $38 which seems pretty swell by my wallet. I
> bet there is a non PT (new style of TG tires) version for even less. Online
> retailers often have Paselas on sale at a very low margin but that is a
> different economic model and I don't feel the comparison is fair.
>
> I would buy these tires if I had a 650b that I didn't ride that often and
> just wanted tires on it for the occasional trip. Unfortunately Panaracer
> used the thicker and less comfortable tread pattern they have on this run of
> tires.
>
> Jason
>
>
> On Dec 17, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Chris Cullum  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:52:55 AM UTC-8, William Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Another gap in the lineup is now filled.  If Compass or GrandBois tires
>> are too expensive and/or too flat prone for you, but you don't want to go
>> uber heavy with Schwalbe or other stiff casing tires, there is now a 42mm
>> 650B Pasela.  Riv has it for $50 650B x 42 Pasela
>
>
> It's nice that these are available but it's kind of a bummer that there is a
> boutique premium on the 650B size compared to 700C or 27" or 559 sizes. The
> non-Tg wire bead Paselas are commonly available in the low $20 range
> (sometimes even lower on sale) and the folding TG models in the $30 bracket.
> As Steve P said I don't feel a folding TG Pasela should be in the same price
> bracket as a Hetre (which is already about the same price as high end
> Challenge clinchers for example).
>
>>
>> Presumably that means Merry Sales has them, so your LBS can get it for you
>> as well.  If, like me, you've had decent luck with the 650Bx38 Soma New
>> Express, then this is a nice add to the list of choices.
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Albas to noodles

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Definitely cheaper than a new bike... I think I spend more time
fiddling with bike setups than riding!!!

I run cables behind racks/baskets.

For brake cables, I tend to run them more at around a 10 or 11 o'clock
position under the tape. That makes a nice little shelf for hands, and
puts them in line with interruptor levers (you absolutely have to try
those IMHO).

I've butted an extra cm or so of cable onto a too-short cable and it
worked find. YMMV of course, and Steve's in-line adjuster barrel was a
real good idea as well.

Have fun!

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 6:13 AM, Minh  wrote:
> this is one of those things that's easier to see then to describe.  i'd
> suggest you troll the flickr groups and look at how others have done this,
> there are a few different options that work.
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:57:01 AM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>>
>> Yes, Steve, I am learning, one job at a time.
>>
>> Edwin
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:52:31 AM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/17/2014 07:41 AM, Edwin W wrote:
>>> > How do you lengthen cable and housing. That's kind of a joke, because I
>>> > cut it too short, but if you have a little extra cable CAN you throw in a
>>> > little section of housing? Or will it buckle?
>>>
>>> In-line adjuster?
>>>
>>> Best way to lengthen a cut-too-short cable is a new cable and learn from
>>> your mistake.
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Canti Hilsen.

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I have had one pretty bad accident that left a lasting impression: I
was riding on off-camber singletrack, with a bit of a rocky exposed
drop off. Got in over my skillset on a technical part, and put a foot
down. Unfortunately it was the down-slope foot, and double
unfortunately the high top tube prevented me from getting it anywhere
near the ground before I flipped over the side of the trail. Landed on
a pile of boulders about six feet below, luckily nothing broken on me
or bike other than my computer. Since then I've been a fan of sloping
downtubes :-)

On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 9:07 AM, 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
 wrote:
> Ikky - I am 5'9" with a PBH of 84.5
>
> I will certainly echo Johans comments regarding the moustache bars. As
> Rivendell suggests, they require a short and upright/tall stem. If I was
> running an albatross style bar, the 59 hilsen I had for a while would have
> perfectly fine. Personally I don't find standover much of an issue. Even
> though I was stretched out, I rode the 59 frame with M-bars all over the
> Fruita MTB trails and never once had issue. I honestly cant think of a time
> in 30 years of biking that I fell in a manner that I would have landed on
> the top tube. Usually I'm more worried about the top tube hitting me in the
> head when the bike lands!
>
> On Friday, December 12, 2014 12:54:43 PM UTC-7, Ikky wrote:
>>
>> For those of us considering a Hilsen, what's your PBH / actual height? Hi
>> by the way.
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Re: [RBW] For Californians (weather-related)

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Made me laugh...

http://i.imgur.com/iyYQkbg.jpg



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Re: [RBW] New Cheviot

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Have to like that!

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Kellie Stapleton <
kellie.staple...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Nope, comes that way.
> On Dec 12, 2014, at 5:32 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
>
> One good lookin' bike, Kellie! Did you paint those lug windows or is it
> like that straight outta' Walnut Creek?
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Kellie Stapleton <
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>
>> My new luscious green Cheviot I built up about 2 weeks ago!
>>
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>> <https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-k4qd53iE85s/VIuVx3NKPlI/AOE/nDEePkttHKk/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1608.jpg>
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>> <https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ezmaQIkeaKI/VIuV8zC9IQI/AOc/iuVU0kfIrRE/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1620.jpg>
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>> <https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-m5pSv2neeCY/VIuWDkhe7aI/AOs/4dNZOA8MGFc/s1600/November%2B27%2C%2B2014_untitled_1623.jpg>
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Re: [RBW] New Cheviot

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One good lookin' bike, Kellie! Did you paint those lug windows or is it
like that straight outta' Walnut Creek?

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> My new luscious green Cheviot I built up about 2 weeks ago!
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: The tax man cometh, stuff Bosco Bars, Brooks for sale!

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I'll throw in my $.02 and HIGHLY recommend the PIccolo to anyone with
a young child.
It's the only tag-along worth purchasing IMHO, and Peter's price is great.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Goshen Peter  wrote:
> Oh, and I have a pair of never worn Merrells vapor glove, size 11.5. Amazing
> riding shoes, its all I use in the summer, lightweight, breathable and super
> grippy. I ordered a few different sizes to see how they fit, these were
> tried on once and never worn outside. I have them new in box. $45 shipped.
> here is a link to the shoes.
>
> http://www.merrell.com/US/en-US/Product.mvc.aspx/30843M/82580/Mens/Barefoot-Run-Vapor-Glove
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Goshen Peter 
> wrote:
>>
>> update, Saddle, Bars and stem sold. Still have the Piccolo, also found a
>> used set of CR720 brakes. Say $20 shipped?
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Goshen Peter 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ok, $65 for the saddle, need it gone!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Goshen Peter 
>>> wrote:

 Tallux sold pending payment. Thanks.

 On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Goshen Peter 
 wrote:
>
> Got a lovely notice from our fine friends at the IRS that my wife
> failed to file for her second job in 2011 so lots of fees and 
> penalties
> yaay! In that spirit here are some things for sale, prices are shipping
> included, paypal only. Thanks!
>
> Bosco Bars-Cromo 55cm, great shape-$40
>
> Brooks B17s-copper rails, copper rivets, about 5 years old and ridden
> by my featherweight friend for about 1k miles. Scuff on one side, not 
> really
> broken in yet, no turns on tightening screw. ---$70
>
> Burly Piccolo with moose rack-used about 150 miles, kid got big! 125
> shipped or 100 picked up in orange county ny.
>
> Nitto Tallux-130mm extension nice shape, some scuffs from use. -$35
>
> More stuff coming as I go through the basement. link to flikr page with
> pics. Thanks all, and pay your taxes!
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/67889635@N06/
>
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Re: [RBW] My stolen Rambouillet

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Sorry to read, Mark.

On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Mark Wilkins  wrote:
> Ouch. Hurts to type the words.
>
> Just thought I'd put this out there, in case it shows up on CL/ebay.
>
> My 2005 (blue) 58cm Rambouillet was stolen from my (unlocked) garage this
> past Thursday or Friday.  Some of the other identifying characteristics:
> - Stolen from my garage in Camp Hill, PA (near Harrisburg)
> - Purchased new from College Park Bicycles in 2005 (still has the College
> Park sticker)
> - Berthoud fenders
> - Velo Orange front/rear racks
> - Brown B17
> - Shimano Nexus front hub w/ fork-mounted light
>
> Here's the most recent photo, taken in May:
>
> http://cl.ly/image/413t0C1y2C1n
>
> If you happen to notice it out there, my aching heart would love to hear
> about it.
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gabe's Atlantis has come to its new home

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Phase one looks to be a success! I like the Quickbeam crankset on there!

On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 4:59 PM, WETH  wrote:
> Bill,
> Congrats on the new bike.  I look forward to seeing more pics as the build 
> progresses.
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

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That's great, way to keep it in the family!

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> Trade pending on a sweet Bombadil.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Always tantalizing to look for frame specials

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Thanks! Brotherinlaw is hoping to someday fall into one, so always checking
out the pricing.

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:14 PM, blakcloud  wrote:

> Simple One $805.00
>
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>> They're gone. What was the SO going for?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Always tantalizing to look for frame specials

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They're gone. What was the SO going for?

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Goshen Peter 
wrote:

> they cant be added to a cart, or is that normal for a frame special?
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 8:50 PM, blakcloud  wrote:
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>> Three different browsers, all deleted caches and the frames still exist
>> for me.
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 2, 2014 8:41:36 PM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote:
>>>
>>> Refresh your browser or empty your cache, Patrick. The frames are gone,
>>> gone, gone.
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Re: [RBW] Winter Welcome Wagon [Share Your Pics]

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Fenders are for keeping the dust down, right???

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> David:
>
> That's just the kind of hubris that may come back to haunt you.  It's
> gonna RAIN tomorrow!  At least have the decency to put fenders on the
> winter set-up.
>
> dougP (I refuse to post the surf report when others are up to their butts
> in snow)
>
> On Monday, December 1, 2014 7:19:52 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Winter set up: https://flic.kr/p/pHHLXA
>>
>> Summer set up:  https://flic.kr/p/pHHLXA
>>
>> Fall set up: https://flic.kr/p/pHHLXA
>>
>> Spring set up:  https://flic.kr/p/pHHLXA
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:
>>
>>> Share some pic's of your bikes kitted out for winter!
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Here is my XO-3 (26" wheeled) as ready as I can make her.
>>> 
>>>
>>> '93 XO-3, 59cm
>>> Single Speed via WI ENO Hub
>>> Nokian M&G 26x1.95" Studded Tires
>>> Alba cockpit w/ Paul levers
>>> Lot's of orphaned parts from around the garage
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] Winter Welcome Wagon [Share Your Pics]

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Couldn't help myself... :-)

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:

> Very Cute cylco!  :)
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:19 PM, cyclotourist 
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>
>> Winter set up: https://flic.kr/p/pHHLXA
>>
>> Summer set up:  https://flic.kr/p/pHHLXA
>>
>> Fall set up: https://flic.kr/p/pHHLXA
>>
>> Spring set up:  https://flic.kr/p/pHHLXA
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:
>>
>>> Share some pic's of your bikes kitted out for winter!
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Here is my XO-3 (26" wheeled) as ready as I can make her.
>>> <http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/12/winter-welcome-wagon.html>
>>>
>>> '93 XO-3, 59cm
>>> Single Speed via WI ENO Hub
>>> Nokian M&G 26x1.95" Studded Tires
>>> Alba cockpit w/ Paul levers
>>> Lot's of orphaned parts from around the garage
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-UJCWoVSEL_A/VH0cbnpAoMI/F8w/5LtESBFV9oE/s1600/RAD_6142.jpg>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Tkq-xwKU4sk/VH0caoJggQI/F8U/OFWtXN3Ivu0/s1600/RAD_6133.jpg>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Winter Welcome Wagon [Share Your Pics]

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Winter set up: https://flic.kr/p/pHHLXA

Summer set up:  https://flic.kr/p/pHHLXA

Fall set up: https://flic.kr/p/pHHLXA

Spring set up:  https://flic.kr/p/pHHLXA

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:

> Share some pic's of your bikes kitted out for winter!
>
> 
>
> Here is my XO-3 (26" wheeled) as ready as I can make her.
> 
>
> '93 XO-3, 59cm
> Single Speed via WI ENO Hub
> Nokian M&G 26x1.95" Studded Tires
> Alba cockpit w/ Paul levers
> Lot's of orphaned parts from around the garage
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] FS: Suntour derailleur's and other items

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As causes go, it's a good one!

On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Mike Schiller 
wrote:

> buy something and help my cause!
>
> ~mike
>
> On Sunday, November 30, 2014 6:09:01 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Fat Bike Feve 
>>
>> Everybody sing along!
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Mike Schiller 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Time to clear out some near new Suntour derailleurs and shifters and
>>> other stuff. I've got fat bike fever.
>>>
>>> Prices include shipping in the Con USA
>>> 1. Suntour XC Pro medium cage rear derailleur, mint( near new)  cond $75
>>> 2. Nitto Pearl 10 stem 100 mm good condition, some small scratches on
>>> shaft . $45
>>> 3. Suntour Cyclone II short cage rear derailler, mint cond. $55
>>> 4. Suntour Cyclone II front derailleur 28.6 mm clamp, mint cond $255.
>>> 5. Suntour XC pro medium cage rear derailleur, very good condition. $55
>>> 6. Suntour SL downtube Accushift shifters, 7/8 speed very good condition
>>> $25
>>> 7. Tektro CR720 canti set for both front and back. Missing on straddle
>>> cable and both straddle guides  very good cond. $259.
>>> 8. Ambrosio Zenith hubset with skewers ( same as Grand Bois) 36h
>>> Shimano/SRAM freehub body 130mm rear spacing New $65
>>> 9. Suntour XC pro front derailleur 31.8 clamp ( spacers are available to
>>> fit 28.6) NOS $30
>>>
>>> Contact me offline if interested.  Pics at https://www.flickr.com/phot
>>> os/37347002@N05/sets/72157649135408970
>>>
>>> ~mike
>>> Carlsbad Ca
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Re: [RBW] FS: Suntour derailleur's and other items

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Fat Bike Feve 

Everybody sing along!


On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Mike Schiller 
wrote:

> Time to clear out some near new Suntour derailleurs and shifters and other
> stuff. I've got fat bike fever.
>
> Prices include shipping in the Con USA
> 1. Suntour XC Pro medium cage rear derailleur, mint( near new)  cond $75
> 2. Nitto Pearl 10 stem 100 mm good condition, some small scratches on
> shaft . $45
> 3. Suntour Cyclone II short cage rear derailler, mint cond. $55
> 4. Suntour Cyclone II front derailleur 28.6 mm clamp, mint cond $255.
> 5. Suntour XC pro medium cage rear derailleur, very good condition. $55
> 6. Suntour SL downtube Accushift shifters, 7/8 speed very good condition
> $25
> 7. Tektro CR720 canti set for both front and back. Missing on straddle
> cable and both straddle guides  very good cond. $259.
> 8. Ambrosio Zenith hubset with skewers ( same as Grand Bois) 36h
> Shimano/SRAM freehub body 130mm rear spacing New $65
> 9. Suntour XC pro front derailleur 31.8 clamp ( spacers are available to
> fit 28.6) NOS $30
>
> Contact me offline if interested.  Pics at https://www.flickr.com/
> photos/37347002@N05/sets/72157649135408970
>
> ~mike
> Carlsbad Ca
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Re: [RBW] Re: For Sale-58cm Atlantis Frame/Fork/Headset

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Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!

On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> Payment no longer pending.  Paid in full
>
> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:51:39 PM UTC-8, oldmangabe wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> For sale is my 2005 or 2006 Rivendell Atlantis 58cm frame and fork. It is
>> a great frame and I have made a lot of memories with it, but after about
>> nine or so years of trying to convince myself it fits, I've finally realized
>> it's just too small. I am the original owner. The bike was ridden in and
>> around Northern California on and off road since I bought it and the paint
>> is representative of this. There are quite a number of paint dings and
>> scrapes with the most significant being shown in the images, but the damage
>> is confined to the paint and is not affecting the tubes. The frame was never
>> crashed, and is structurally sound and in alignment.
>>
>>
>>
>> Images can be found HERE
>>
>>
>>
>> Geometry and specs HERE
>>
>>
>>
>> I am located in SF. A local sale would be preferred since nobody really
>> likes dealing with S&H, but I will ship. Contact me off list if interested.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am asking $1000 for the frame/fork/Ultegra headset + S&H.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Gabe
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Re: [RBW] Re: Post Thanksgiving Cranksgiving Dirt Paradise Ride.

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JITFOCC: Did you go backwards in Mike's flickr?
Looks like he had some fun the Anza B: https://flic.kr/p/pTY6A5

On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Jon in the foothills of Central
Colorado  wrote:
> Thanks for sharing.It brings back great memories of riding in Borrego
> Springs, Julian( apple Pie) and four wheeling in Anza Borrego/Salton Sea
> back in the 80s..
>
>
> On Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:21:34 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Three plus hours and twenty miles of pristine dirt single track around
>> Carmel Valley in San Diego ' s North County was enjoyed by we five members
>> of (SCAR) SoCal All Rounders. David Greenblatt, Mike Shiller, Tom Virgil,
>> Curtis Mckenzie and I socalpedalpusher.
>>
>> We all met at David's home and promptly dropped into Gonzalez Canyon
>> zigzaging through dense chaparral with abandon. The weather was sunny and
>> pleasant with a slight breeze. Apologies to the the Northern climes.
>>
>> Our dear Tom had run out of time and made an exit, for he had Christmas
>> tree trimming duty waiting for him,  it was great to see him but too short
>> for me. Tom and I met the next day for coffee outside which was great.
>>
>> As with gleeful joy on single track often a sacrifice is made to the trail
>> gods. Our Mike Shiller was gallant enough to shed some blood for the cause
>> when he and a tree had a disagreement, Mike' wounds were treated a red
>> bandanna was added to his outfit (made him that much more gnarled) and off
>> we went resuming our ride...by the way the tree was fine just in case you
>> were wondering.
>>
>> This has been David's playground for a while now so he put together a bow
>> tie dirt event for us...he tied together two Canyons and a Mesa with next to
>> no cars to contend with. Literally the GPS mapping is a bow tie as we
>> crossed under the 56 freeway multiple times.
>>
>> After Gonzalez we dropped into Penasquitos Canyon after climbing a short
>> steep access road. We cheerfully glided down smooth undulating single track
>> along the North side of Penasquitos Canyon  heading West where we crossed
>> paths with the few hikers on our adventure. Soon we made a short stop at the
>> Waterfalls for snacks, bike talk and future rides.
>>
>> Continuing we looped back around and headed East up Penasquitos. David
>> saved the best till last the Del Mar Mesa Preserve where the tunnels exist.
>> These are scrub oak grown over making a tunnel canopy with yet more
>> singletrack winding it's way down another small canyon a technical sheer
>> blast! One had to be vigilant so as not to have your head smashed backward
>> from low hanging branches. As I rolled through the tunnels hugging *(Ole
>> Willy's) top tube I wondered how Curtis at 6'7" was fairing? He came through
>> for the most unscathed a little bit of bark was seen in his vicinity.
>>
>> Concluding our ride at Greenblatt ' s Ale House David was a great host
>> lots of chips & dips, some Sculpin grapefruit ale and Speedway Stout was
>> had, adding at least on my part 10% by volume the  extra cherry on the
>> proverbial cake on the perfect day in the saddle. With the sun set...
>>
>> ...we parted ways I was left with the image of all the broad smiles while
>> playing in the dirt.
>>
>> Up next? Sweetwater Regional Park Camping.
>>
>> Mike' Flickr images, https://flic.kr/p/qeA3nc
>>
>> David's Flickr images, https://flic.kr/p/qbXzqG
>>
>> My Flickr images, https://flic.kr/p/pXaLGJ
>>
>> Tom's Flickr images, https://flic.kr/p/qe4Su2
>>
>> * The name I've attached to my 2003 Rivendell Atlantis.
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Re: [RBW] 2TT Atlantis on the Blug

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Sorry, couldn't get past the mis-matched water bottle cages.

:-)

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:31 PM, James Warren  wrote:
>
> I didn't see any fork crowns on the Blug, because I was blinded by the 
> Atlantis that's headed to New Zealand.
>
> I know I've now fully switched sides, because I was admiring it for awhile 
> before I realized "hey, it has two top tubes." It seemed so totally normal to 
> me that I didn't notice. In 2010 I would not have liked it. Now I love my own 
> 2TT Riv, and I also really like that Atlantis on the Blug.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Disturbing Trend?

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I was presuming 8mm would be too much to re-use. I'm really getting
the bug to go tubeless, so might have to invest in the new spokes as
well.
Thanks!

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Metin Uz  wrote:
> No way to reuse spokes when rim ERDs are off by 8mm. Spoke lengths will be
> too long by almost half of the ERD difference, or 4mm in this case. Now, if
> you already had extra long nipples and slightly too short spokes, then maybe
> it would work... I would say +/-4mm ERD difference may be OK if the original
> spokes are just the right size.
>
> --Metin
>
> On Monday, November 24, 2014 11:06:09 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Side question: Typically how close do ERDs need to be in order to
>> re-use spokes? I'd like to replace my CR18s (ERD 612) with WTB
>> Chriscross (ERD 604) in order to go tubeless. Close enough or outside
>> of tolerance?
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:10 AM, George Schick  wrote:
>> > Joe - those were my thoughts, exactly!  From looking at the A23
>> > cross-section drawing on the Velocity web site, I think the rear spokes
>> > will
>> > fit, too.  Makes things much easier (and less costly)
>> >
>> > On Monday, November 24, 2014 11:51:34 AM UTC-6, joe b. wrote:
>> >>
>> >> George,
>> >>
>> >> A happy coincidence that might benefit you, too, is that the ERD of the
>> >> A23 is close enough to the Aerohead to re-use spokes in some cases. I
>> >> just
>> >> re-laced a front with no problem and plan to try with the O/C rear when
>> >> that
>> >> aerohead wears out.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> joe broach
>> >> portland, or
>> >>
>> >> On Nov 24, 2014 8:30 AM, "George Schick"  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Well, one thing I found out after doing some more in depth searching
>> >>> is
>> >>> that the particular model rim I have now is being discontinued by the
>> >>> manufacturer.  This explains why when I found it anyplace at all it
>> >>> was
>> >>> available in only in some unique drilling like 24 holes and in limited
>> >>> quantities, at that.  In this case it's the Velocity Aerohead OC,
>> >>> which is
>> >>> being replaced by their newer A23 OC.  Looks like a good thing, too,
>> >>> because
>> >>> the width of the Aerohead was only about 20mm and the A23 is
>> >>> advertised at
>> >>> 23mm.  That would be a beneficial increase as long as the new one
>> >>> doesn't
>> >>> suffer from the same cracking problems as their Synergy.
>> >>>
>> >>> But I think you're right, the rest of the shortages are probably due
>> >>> to
>> >>> the inventory/manf. cycle.  Never thought about that.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Monday, November 24, 2014 7:00:49 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>> 
>>  I think part of what you're seeing is inventory catching up with
>>  batch
>>  manufacturing.  You can follow inventories of any brand/model of tire
>>  and
>>  see the same thing.  One season no one has any in inventory, the next
>>  season
>>  there is a glut.
>> 
>>  On Saturday, November 22, 2014 8:25:56 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote:
>> >
>> > Having begun Winter off-time maintenance on my bikes I noticed
>> > enough
>> > rim wear on the road bike to encourage me to snoop around on the Web
>> > to see
>> > what's available nowadays.  One online retailer that used to carry
>> > several
>> > dozen brands/models of road rims is now listing only four.  Another
>> > has far
>> > more limited offerings than it used to.  And a well-known national
>> > chain/online retailer lists NO rims at all, just a pre-build wheel,
>> > and only
>> > one selection of those.  I'm not sure if this has any significance
>> > or not,
>> > but it sure looks like something is causing some belt tightening in
>> > the
>> > retail industry.  Any thoughts?
>> >
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Re: [RBW] Re: Disturbing Trend?

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Side question: Typically how close do ERDs need to be in order to
re-use spokes? I'd like to replace my CR18s (ERD 612) with WTB
Chriscross (ERD 604) in order to go tubeless. Close enough or outside
of tolerance?

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:10 AM, George Schick  wrote:
> Joe - those were my thoughts, exactly!  From looking at the A23
> cross-section drawing on the Velocity web site, I think the rear spokes will
> fit, too.  Makes things much easier (and less costly)
>
> On Monday, November 24, 2014 11:51:34 AM UTC-6, joe b. wrote:
>>
>> George,
>>
>> A happy coincidence that might benefit you, too, is that the ERD of the
>> A23 is close enough to the Aerohead to re-use spokes in some cases. I just
>> re-laced a front with no problem and plan to try with the O/C rear when that
>> aerohead wears out.
>>
>> Best,
>> joe broach
>> portland, or
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2014 8:30 AM, "George Schick"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, one thing I found out after doing some more in depth searching is
>>> that the particular model rim I have now is being discontinued by the
>>> manufacturer.  This explains why when I found it anyplace at all it was
>>> available in only in some unique drilling like 24 holes and in limited
>>> quantities, at that.  In this case it's the Velocity Aerohead OC, which is
>>> being replaced by their newer A23 OC.  Looks like a good thing, too, because
>>> the width of the Aerohead was only about 20mm and the A23 is advertised at
>>> 23mm.  That would be a beneficial increase as long as the new one doesn't
>>> suffer from the same cracking problems as their Synergy.
>>>
>>> But I think you're right, the rest of the shortages are probably due to
>>> the inventory/manf. cycle.  Never thought about that.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 24, 2014 7:00:49 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:

 I think part of what you're seeing is inventory catching up with batch
 manufacturing.  You can follow inventories of any brand/model of tire and
 see the same thing.  One season no one has any in inventory, the next 
 season
 there is a glut.

 On Saturday, November 22, 2014 8:25:56 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote:
>
> Having begun Winter off-time maintenance on my bikes I noticed enough
> rim wear on the road bike to encourage me to snoop around on the Web to 
> see
> what's available nowadays.  One online retailer that used to carry several
> dozen brands/models of road rims is now listing only four.  Another has 
> far
> more limited offerings than it used to.  And a well-known national
> chain/online retailer lists NO rims at all, just a pre-build wheel, and 
> only
> one selection of those.  I'm not sure if this has any significance or not,
> but it sure looks like something is causing some belt tightening in the
> retail industry.  Any thoughts?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: coffeeneuring

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Thanks to both of you for the thoughtful write ups!

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:41 AM, Pondero  wrote:
> What an enjoyable account!...and so attractively presented!  I liked the
> variety, the lovely photos, and the enjoyable feel of the bicycle outings.
> I think you captured the spirit of the Coffeeneuring Challenge perfectly.
>
> Here's my completely different (content and presentation) interpretation of
> Coffeenuering in which I used my Quickbeam or A. Homer Hilsen for all stops,
> except one...
>
> http://pawndero.wordpress.com/2014/11/16/coffeeneuring-journal-2014/
>
> Chris Johnson
> Sanger, Texas
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Re: [RBW] Disturbing Trend?

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Made me check my local-ish LBS and on-line retailer:
http://www.jensonusa.com/Bicycle-Rims?pg=100&o=10880&s=b

Seems to be a pretty good supply, although I think they should carry
more from Velocity.

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> Huh! Interesting.  Well, actually I was looking at well known national
> online retailers like Performance, Nashbar, and Harris Bike; and a popular
> regional mail order-only outfit called Lickbike.  But your Universal certain
> beats their trend.  Be interesting to see if their stock continues or
> follows the others.
>
>
> On Saturday, November 22, 2014 10:12:37 PM UTC-6, joe b. wrote:
>>
>> Nah, you must be looking in weird places. The road rim market is booming,
>> and even better the wide rim revolution is taking over! Depending on who you
>> ask, these new fangled v-shaped profiles may even be an improvement, too
>> (stronger for less weight). Here are over 80 at a shop local to me, though
>> granted a handful may be 29er or disc- specific:
>> http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/index.php?category=856
>>
>> Best,
>> joe broach
>> portland, or
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 6:25 PM, George Schick  wrote:
>>>
>>> Having begun Winter off-time maintenance on my bikes I noticed enough rim
>>> wear on the road bike to encourage me to snoop around on the Web to see
>>> what's available nowadays.  One online retailer that used to carry several
>>> dozen brands/models of road rims is now listing only four.  Another has far
>>> more limited offerings than it used to.  And a well-known national
>>> chain/online retailer lists NO rims at all, just a pre-build wheel, and only
>>> one selection of those.  I'm not sure if this has any significance or not,
>>> but it sure looks like something is causing some belt tightening in the
>>> retail industry.  Any thoughts?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] NYC ride report

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Love the double TT citified Sam H!

On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Kainalu  wrote:

>
> 
> Nice thing about the cold and wind is the fair weather folk stick to the
> undergrounds. A great night for bringing some large drawings home from
> Westchester County. Good thing those 16" kenda hookworm trailer tires are
> so lacking of supplety, they stayed on the ground like bricks.  Anyone out
> there in the cold have a good line on some really warm 2 finger lobster
> mitts?
>
> putting the finishing touches on the Quickbeam ice bike...
> -Kai
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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

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Looks like it was an absolutely frigid weekend:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/15622928030/in/set-72157647014127884

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:25 PM, dougP  wrote:

> Looks like a properly shod Atlantis can handle it.
>
> David, don't you dare post a link to photos from last weekend.  We'll get
> kicked off the list :-).
>
> dougP
>
> On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:51:34 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
>> Enjoy yourselves down there. But please, don't make us Northern folk feel
>> too bad with photos of beaches and short sleeves. At least not until we get
>> used to the change. It's going to be a long winter...
>>
>>
>> <https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-n7-8t3seVSU/VGuVBTAgyQI/IsE/aychhPcZJew/s1600/15634894729_dd2dc07162_k.jpg>
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Re: [RBW] Cyclocross and a little contest

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Team Un-Racer would be a very good CX team to be associated with!

On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:11 AM, Beth H  wrote:

> I, for one, am grateful for my local cyclocross scene and its close
> cousin, short-track mountain biking.
> As a child, I rode my department store fake BMX bike through unifinished
> construction sites, making up my own obstacle courses and trying to clean
> every feature I could find. (At the tender age of ten, I didn't know what
> trials riding was but probably would have enjoyed it.)
> As a forty-something adult who rode every day for transportation but was
> definitely out of shape by modern cycling standards, I entered my fitst
> short-track race on a dare from friends. Since then I raced four full
> seasons of 'cross and four-plus of short-track. After a 2+ year hiatus
> caused in great part by a career change, I came back to "race"
> (euphenistically speaking, anyway) an unsanctioned "demo" event. Two weeks
> of riding my old mountain bike in preparation, practicing dismounts (I
> still suck at mounts) and bunny hopping; at nearly 52 I am still dreadfully
> out of shape and don't care. I'm having a blast.
>
> I owe a great deal of this to my local scene for being as friendly and
> non-judgmental as any bunch of folks could possibly be. I come in last,
> red-faced and out-of-breath, and get cheered as loadly as the woman who
> crossed the line first. Definitely an un-racer in most of my bicycling
> life, but there will always be a place in my heart for my local 'cross
> scene.
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Re: [RBW] Cyclocross and a little contest

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Although a bit of a let down, still a good time on two wheels!

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Mike Williams 
wrote:

> Ah,   Now I see,   Yeah Manuel Beastley seemed too good of a name
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Nov 14, 2014, at 6:45 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
> There is a bit of a back story to it... look up Adam Craig :-)
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Mike Williams 
> wrote:
>
>> David,  thank you for sharing that link,   Thats my favorite story of the
>> year!!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2014, at 6:27 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
>>
>> http://www.bikemag.com/news/news-fat-and-furious/
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Patrick Moore 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I wish I could find it: I saw a video of a 40-something riding a ss,
>>> coaster-braked Walmart fatbike in a regional cyclocross meet, beating all
>>> comers. Pretty amazing.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 5:36 PM, cyclotourist 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tim, at the cross race I was out last weekend, three guys were racing
>>>> fat bikes.
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/kmfmxwb
>>>> The heavy bike excuse doesn't cut it!!! :-)
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Cyclocross and a little contest

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There is a bit of a back story to it... look up Adam Craig :-)

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Mike Williams 
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> David,  thank you for sharing that link,   Thats my favorite story of the
> year!!
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> On Nov 14, 2014, at 6:27 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
> http://www.bikemag.com/news/news-fat-and-furious/
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> I wish I could find it: I saw a video of a 40-something riding a ss,
>> coaster-braked Walmart fatbike in a regional cyclocross meet, beating all
>> comers. Pretty amazing.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 5:36 PM, cyclotourist 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tim, at the cross race I was out last weekend, three guys were racing
>>> fat bikes.
>>> http://tinyurl.com/kmfmxwb
>>> The heavy bike excuse doesn't cut it!!! :-)
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Cyclocross and a little contest

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http://www.bikemag.com/news/news-fat-and-furious/

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I wish I could find it: I saw a video of a 40-something riding a ss,
> coaster-braked Walmart fatbike in a regional cyclocross meet, beating all
> comers. Pretty amazing.
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 5:36 PM, cyclotourist 
> wrote:
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>> Tim, at the cross race I was out last weekend, three guys were racing fat
>> bikes.
>> http://tinyurl.com/kmfmxwb
>> The heavy bike excuse doesn't cut it!!! :-)
>>
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Re: [RBW] Cyclocross and a little contest

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Tim, at the cross race I was out last weekend, three guys were racing fat
bikes.
http://tinyurl.com/kmfmxwb
The heavy bike excuse doesn't cut it!!! :-)



On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Tim Gavin 
wrote:

> Jan-
>
> I appreciate cyclocross, but don't participate.  I think it reflects my
> attitude about racing, which is shared by many in the list.  I'm an
> unracer.  I'm not competitive and prefer to have fun in a group instead of
> compete with them.
>
> Cyclocross is intimidating.  I appreciate that it's less so than other
> bike racing, but it's still an intimidating atmosphere.
>
> Cyclocross racing is still difficult to get into.  The courses are
> temporary and generally not open for practice.  The bikes are specific
> (though at least versatile for other types of riding).
>
> Cyclocross is expensive.  Travel and entry fees add up.
>
>
> That said, I think cyclocross is super cool.  I've attended the Jingle
> Cross (which is local for me) and had a good time watching people get dirty
> and have fun.
>
> I've considered trying out the Amateur race, but I lack:
> 1) practice on actual cyclocross courses.  I'd rather ride with friends
> than train for cross.  None of my friends race cross, so I'd have to ride
> solo or find new friends.
> 2) a good, rule compliant bike.  I have 5 bikes that cover all my riding
> needs, but none of them would be very suitable.
> - Gofast? No, 700x25 max.
> - Riv Road?  No, too low of BB, sidepulls, too heavy.  700x25 max or
> 650x38 (no cross tires in that size).
> - Schwinn KOM?  Way too heavy at 35#, but otherwise would work.
> - Fat bike?  Heavy, slow.
> - 26er MTB?  Too slow.
> 3) fitness.  I'm 220# and can ride fast all day, but the strain of racing
> is a whole other level.
>
> I'm not into racing, so I'm not driven to train to compete.  Based on the
> folks I see at Jingle Cross, it seems like cross racing is goof-off racing
> for racers, not racing for goof-offs.  I'm glad those racers can have fun!
>
> My challenges with Cyclocross are kind of a chicken-and-egg thing.  I.e.,
> I'd have cross friends and bike if I raced cross; but I don't, so I don't.
> The race crowd here is as unapproachable as anywhere.
>
> A country bike ramble is more up my alley.  Like many on the list, I'm not
> a racer.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Jan Heine  wrote:
>
>> Just a heads-up for our little contest - guess how much mud my 'cross
>> bike hauled around at the end of last weekend's race. The best guess wins a
>> 1-year subscription to *Bicycle Quarterly*.
>>
>> I haven't seen much discussion of cyclocross here, even though it seems
>> like it would appeal to many here - it's fun and exhilarating, and compared
>> to any other forms of racing, there is little or no pressure or
>> snobbish-ness. I've been racing my Alan - friction shifting, bar-ends,
>> lugged frame - and everybody seems to love the classic bike. More about the
>> bike and contest here:
>>
>> http://janheine.wordpress.com/2014/11/14/why-i-love-cyclocross/
>>
>> Jan Heine
>> Editor
>> Bicycle Quarterly
>> www.bikequarterly.com
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Re: [RBW] For Sale-58cm Atlantis Frame/Fork/Headset

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Everyone goes home happy!

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Oh, snap, and what am I missing for a build kit..
>
> I have the full wheelset, I have bar/stem/brakelevers.  I have brakes,
> front and rear ders.  I have shifters, crankset BB pedals.  I have a couple
> Nitto racks, a whole grip of sackville bags.  I even have a good rainbow
> stack of several shades of Newbaums.
>
> I think I might need a saddle, but aside from that, I'm totally ready.  I
> could have her on the road this weekend.  GAH!
>
> Gabe, I'm reaching out.  Expect a message.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:31:07 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>>
>> solid Deal. Plenty of love on this bike.congrats to the person who jumps
>> on this. Gabe is good people and this is a great deal for an atlantis.
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Re: [RBW] For Sale-58cm Atlantis Frame/Fork/Headset

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Total beausage patina!

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:51 PM, oldmangabe  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> For sale is my 2005 or 2006 Rivendell Atlantis 58cm frame and fork. It is
> a great frame and I have made a lot of memories with it, but after about
> nine or so years of trying to convince myself it fits, I've finally
> realized it's just too small. I am the original owner. The bike was ridden
> in and around Northern California on and off road since I bought it and the
> paint is representative of this. There are quite a number of paint dings
> and scrapes with the most significant being shown in the images, but the
> damage is confined to the paint and is not affecting the tubes. The frame
> was never crashed, and is structurally sound and in alignment.
>
>
>
> Images can be found HERE
> 
>
>
>
> Geometry and specs HERE
> 
>
>
>
> I am located in SF. A local sale would be preferred since nobody really
> likes dealing with S&H, but I will ship. Contact me off list if interested.
>
>
>
> I am asking $1000 for the frame/fork/Ultegra headset + S&H.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Gabe
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Re: [RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

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Ahhh, here's what I really wanted to find:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/7516215@N03/sets/72157626542404830
If you scroll down you'll see Anton's very clever basket attachment.
I've wanted to pull this off for a while, but haven't quite got around to
it...

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 6:36 AM, cyclotourist 
wrote:

> She loves her basket! It's a Peterboro, and really nice. I'm not a huge
> fan of the attachment system, and toy with the idea of changing it around
> some. Really needs to be attached to a rack and not just dangling:
> https://flic.kr/p/9WNHiH
> https://flic.kr/p/9xUVNo
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:29 AM, Deacon Patrick 
> wrote:
>
>> My daughters loved their baskets like your wife has, David. Encourage
>> your wife to use a different system for carrying things upfront if she gets
>> the urge to go bikepacking. My lassies had to give up their baskets for
>> bird nests.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

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She loves her basket! It's a Peterboro, and really nice. I'm not a huge fan
of the attachment system, and toy with the idea of changing it around some.
Really needs to be attached to a rack and not just dangling:
https://flic.kr/p/9WNHiH
https://flic.kr/p/9xUVNo

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:29 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> My daughters loved their baskets like your wife has, David. Encourage your
> wife to use a different system for carrying things upfront if she gets the
> urge to go bikepacking. My lassies had to give up their baskets for bird
> nests.
>
> With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

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Well seeing as you asked...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157604628485425

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:

> do you have more pics of your wife's Glorius?
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:33 PM, cyclotourist 
> wrote:
> > I too risked the wet and the cold today. Went out for lunch with my S.O.,
> > riding Quickbeam and Glorius respectively. Burgers and fries at the
> Tartan
> > (45th anniversary year for them), followed by a matinee showing of Fury
> (two
> > thumbs up, although not a perfect film), then rush to pick up the kids at
> > school for the ride home.
> >
> > Only pic from all that:
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/15149969103/
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Deacon Patrick 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ha! To freeze dry them, I presume? Even using the outside deep freezer,
> I
> >> can just imagine the condescending look of disgust and vile judgement
> on my
> >> wife's face. Grin.
> >>
> >> My current plan is to try a vapor barrier (plastic baggie) next to my
> foot
> >> with the same set up I used today and see where that gets me.
> >>
> >> With abandon,
> >> Patrick
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:18:37 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Can you keep the mukluks in the freezer?
> >>> Like in a 'footwear drawer?'
> >>>
> >>> Philip
> >>> www.biketinker.com
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Re: [RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

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I was joshin' about the rain and the cold. 72F and never going to rain
again.

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Smitty, Thanks! I can't help but wonder, however, how you reassure
> yourself all is right with the world the other 6 months? Grin.
>
> David, date afternoon in the rain sounds wonderful! And your wife's
> Glorious is ... glorious!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:50:11 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>>
>> I know all is well in the world when Deacon P is riding the Mammoth in
>> the snow.
>>
>> --Smitty
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:25:52 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> We got an inch of snow last night and a brisk 4˚F at 7am, so I bundled
>>> up and headed out, hopeful of making it to the top of Lovell Gulch or
>>> perhaps Rampart Reservoir. Alas, the slick snowpack left me pondering my
>>> own mortality on the hood of a diesel truck just learning how to drive in
>>> the snow (either being from somewhere else or having forgotten in the last
>>> 6 months). So I wimped out and turned around.
>>>
>>> All clothing systems worked beautifully except for footwear. I have yet
>>> to sort out what to wear that handles uber cold to wet and sloppy AND is
>>> minimalist. But I am home now, and can feel my toes again. They are still
>>> pink and still wiggle, so I wasn’t too stupid. Grin.
>>>
>>> Photos show what felt like a quintessential November day in Colorado
>>> hills. (There’s 12 all told, use the left arrow to see them all.)
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/15146894563/in/photostream/
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
>>> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
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