[RBW] Re: Toddlers, Kids, Urban Transport, and your Riv
The PS rack is great. I wondered if maybe I'd want a basket on it, but when I get beyond the carrying capacity of my regular bag often I've got something that wouldn't fit well in a basket: https://flic.kr/p/dYHnKS I suppose getting a trailer would make Costco runs a bit easier, though! -J On Sunday, August 24, 2014 8:26:13 PM UTC-4, Jay B wrote: Great photo John! and a very similar setup as mine. how are you liking the P S rack in practice? On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:47:18 PM UTC-5, John Stowe wrote: The Bobike setup looks familiar Jay, right down to the SON hub and BM IQ CYO headlight and brown tires! We're a few months behind you, so unfortunately not much advice to offer on the next step. I have Bosco Bullmoose bars which come out a bit higher than yours, and I'm able to (just) swing my foot over the top tube with my butt on the saddle, so I'm hoping I'll be OK with a rear seat. Otherwise, yeah, I've had the same thought as you about a Cheviot instead. Trying to avoid a trailer in the city - bulky and less maneuverable. Plus everything needs to fit in the elevator up to our 5th floor apartment. If we lived in a rowhouse, or if there were a bike room on the ground floor, we'd probably have a box bike for around-town use. https://flic.kr/p/okoA1R Looking forward to others' suggestions/stories, though! John Washington, DC On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:24:27 PM UTC-4, Jay B wrote: Here's a picture https://www.flickr.com/photos/jayburkhalter/14988353316/ of our current setup, and a link http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/84370349904/here-is-what-weve-been-referring-to-as-the to Keven's Cheviot from the Blug -Jay B. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Toddlers, Kids, Urban Transport, and your Riv
Hi Shoji, Thanks for all your helpful feedback and pics. What size is your Hunqapillar? Do you recall your PBH or saddle height? I like your fat tire/fender combos. What is the largest tire you've used? We have a trailer https://www.flickr.com/photos/jayburkhalter/5582451022/in/set-72157626412272070 right now, but it is set up for dog hauling. I love how the Cycletote tracks and rides, but we haven't ordered the kid attachments for it. Your HAR/HAB setup along with basket and saddlesack is really sharp! Just what I would use for overnights. Do you know what rear panniers play well with the Piccolo rack? -Jay On Monday, August 25, 2014 10:49:51 AM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Hi Everyone: Some nice kid-hauling set ups! I have my Hunqapillar set up for kid hauling (2-yo and 4-yo). Yepp Mini front seat (which I highly recommend) on albatross hbars; Burley Piccolo trail-a-bike (has its own dedicated rear rack). I also have a Burley D'Lite trailer. (I'm also an h-bar swapper... but that's a different thread.) I skipped the rear bike seat (I would have chosen the Yepp Maxi) and jumped to the trail-a-bike. (Note: I had and have a 2-child trailer already in the shed. Having it made it easier for me to forgo the rear bike seat, as I could use the 2-child trailer if/when necessary.) My son was ready for the trail-a-bike at ~3.5 yo. I could trust him to hold on and communicate, though I was extra cautious and kept an eye on him with the Riv-German mirror. I've heard of children getting sleepy while on trail-a-bikes, so I haven't taken him on long excursions on it. Initially, the saddle height couldn't be lowered enough for him to pedal, so I zipped tied the crank to the chain stay to create a platform for him to stand. I take him to school on the trail-a-bike. Of course, it's compatible with the front Yepp Mini, which I sometimes have my 2-yo. You'll have to give up your Saddlesack when using the Piccolo, but no big deal. It goes on/off quite easily. If necessary, you can attach certain panniers to the Piccolo rack while pulling the trail-a-bike. I picked up the HAR/HAB for family picnics. (Works great.) Some pics: https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/13999203980/in/set-72157643709359733 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/14374522134/ And the family on the virtual Enmoot: https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/14665658393/in/set-72157643709359733 2-child trailer: It's nice for hauling kids and toys to the park or around places. I prefer having them on the Yepp or Piccolo, but it's convenient and stable. I'm not sure how much longer my 4yo will be able to fit into it with his sister. https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/14235538308/ On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:04:28 PM UTC-4, Jay B wrote: howdy folks, We’ve been super happy with the Bobike Mini front child carrier for toting around our nearly 2 year old for the last year. Combined with a large rear saddlesack and front basket on the Bleriot, Betty, or Quickbeam, we’ve got our daily urban transport needs just about covered (we just moved to Houston, and while it’s not nearly as bike-friendly as Denver, it’s proved surprisingly bike-able for our needs). Our little guy is approaching the 33 lb suggested weight limit for the Bobike, but more concerning to me is that his shoulders are now several inches above the top of the backrest of the carrier and the shoulder straps tend to work their way off his shoulders. So, I’ve been pondering our next step. I’ve considered getting a Yepp Maxi (or similar rear child carrier), and while it would work great with my wife’s Betty, I think I might get tired of throwing my leg over my already high (for me) top tubes. And I would have a hard time giving up my much used and loved large rear saddlesack. I’ve considered getting a Cheviot and setting it up similar to RBW employee Keven’s that was spotlighted on the Blug, especially if I could fit Big Bens and fenders on it (I’ve yet to reach out to Keven to see how that setup is going). I have an Xtracycle that would also work with the Yepp Maxi, but I was really hoping to let that bike go as we really don’t use it often enough. I feel I have reached the useful limit of my theoretical ponderings on the matter and could really use some real world feedback from those of you with experience. All shared knowledge and lessons learned are much appreciated! thanks, Jay B. Houston, TX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Toddlers, Kids, Urban Transport, and your Riv
I used a Burley trailer until about 2 1/2 to 3 yrs old. The Burley Solo tracks extremely well and never had issues with toppling. I rode over 5000 miles with my kids without incident, but YMMV :). I've heard of the double-trailers tipping over before. After the Burley phase I went to a tandem/triplet with child stoker crank and then crank shorteners. Good luck! Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Toddlers, Kids, Urban Transport, and your Riv
Hi Jay, It's a 48cm Hunqapillar, which is designed around 26/559BSD wheels. My PBH is just under 81, SH is 69-70 for road (low end w/Thin Gripsters, high end w/GKs). The largest tires I have are Big Bens, which measure ~52mm, IIRC. There is room for wider tires w/o fenders. I've heard that many panniers will work fine with the Piccolo. The potential problem is that the rails are somewhat thicker than other racks. That could be a problem for certain pannier mounts. I have a Detour bag which has long arms that will drop down easily, but it's a no-fuss system. RE: trailer stability-- I've tipped mine riding off road. It was a narrower section, and I got the trailer wheel on a medium-sized rock which rolled the trailer. The kids were fine hanging sideways being held by the seat-belt restraints. Best, shoji On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 11:47:04 AM UTC-4, Jay B wrote: Hi Shoji, Thanks for all your helpful feedback and pics. What size is your Hunqapillar? Do you recall your PBH or saddle height? I like your fat tire/fender combos. What is the largest tire you've used? We have a trailer https://www.flickr.com/photos/jayburkhalter/5582451022/in/set-72157626412272070 right now, but it is set up for dog hauling. I love how the Cycletote tracks and rides, but we haven't ordered the kid attachments for it. Your HAR/HAB setup along with basket and saddlesack is really sharp! Just what I would use for overnights. Do you know what rear panniers play well with the Piccolo rack? -Jay On Monday, August 25, 2014 10:49:51 AM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Hi Everyone: Some nice kid-hauling set ups! I have my Hunqapillar set up for kid hauling (2-yo and 4-yo). Yepp Mini front seat (which I highly recommend) on albatross hbars; Burley Piccolo trail-a-bike (has its own dedicated rear rack). I also have a Burley D'Lite trailer. (I'm also an h-bar swapper... but that's a different thread.) I skipped the rear bike seat (I would have chosen the Yepp Maxi) and jumped to the trail-a-bike. (Note: I had and have a 2-child trailer already in the shed. Having it made it easier for me to forgo the rear bike seat, as I could use the 2-child trailer if/when necessary.) My son was ready for the trail-a-bike at ~3.5 yo. I could trust him to hold on and communicate, though I was extra cautious and kept an eye on him with the Riv-German mirror. I've heard of children getting sleepy while on trail-a-bikes, so I haven't taken him on long excursions on it. Initially, the saddle height couldn't be lowered enough for him to pedal, so I zipped tied the crank to the chain stay to create a platform for him to stand. I take him to school on the trail-a-bike. Of course, it's compatible with the front Yepp Mini, which I sometimes have my 2-yo. You'll have to give up your Saddlesack when using the Piccolo, but no big deal. It goes on/off quite easily. If necessary, you can attach certain panniers to the Piccolo rack while pulling the trail-a-bike. I picked up the HAR/HAB for family picnics. (Works great.) Some pics: https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/13999203980/in/set-72157643709359733 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/14374522134/ And the family on the virtual Enmoot: https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/14665658393/in/set-72157643709359733 2-child trailer: It's nice for hauling kids and toys to the park or around places. I prefer having them on the Yepp or Piccolo, but it's convenient and stable. I'm not sure how much longer my 4yo will be able to fit into it with his sister. https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/14235538308/ On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:04:28 PM UTC-4, Jay B wrote: howdy folks, We’ve been super happy with the Bobike Mini front child carrier for toting around our nearly 2 year old for the last year. Combined with a large rear saddlesack and front basket on the Bleriot, Betty, or Quickbeam, we’ve got our daily urban transport needs just about covered (we just moved to Houston, and while it’s not nearly as bike-friendly as Denver, it’s proved surprisingly bike-able for our needs). Our little guy is approaching the 33 lb suggested weight limit for the Bobike, but more concerning to me is that his shoulders are now several inches above the top of the backrest of the carrier and the shoulder straps tend to work their way off his shoulders. So, I’ve been pondering our next step. I’ve considered getting a Yepp Maxi (or similar rear child carrier), and while it would work great with my wife’s Betty, I think I might get tired of throwing my leg over my already high (for me) top tubes. And I would have a hard time giving up my much used and loved large rear saddlesack. I’ve considered getting a Cheviot and setting it up similar to RBW employee Keven’s that was spotlighted on the Blug, especially if I could fit Big Bens and fenders on it (I’ve yet to reach out to Keven to see how
[RBW] Re: Toddlers, Kids, Urban Transport, and your Riv
Not sure how I missed your response Mathew, but I appreciate your feedback. I agree I could outfit my Xtracycle to work right now, but at 9 years old several components/accessories need replacing/upgrading to make it a dependable daily ride. I'm just not sure I want to pump much time and money into this particular bike. -Jay On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:13:39 PM UTC-5, Mathew Greiner wrote: It seems like you're busy filling a gap between now and the not too distant future when your small person can be trusted to sit on his own in some fashion. Perhaps one of the trailers like a Burley or a Weehoo? I can't imagine why you'd get rid of the Xtracycle. Kids on cargo bikes make an ideal situation. By the time he's three, it wil be your best solution. I'd not be surprised if you could accessorize it in a way to make it work well now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Toddlers, Kids, Urban Transport, and your Riv
I'll add my vote for a Burly Trailer. Very safe, you can dump your bike and the trailer will remain standing. Get the big two kid version rated for 100 pounds. My kids are now riding their own bikes, but I still use the trailer for cargo runs. Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Toddlers, Kids, Urban Transport, and your Riv
It seems like you're busy filling a gap between now and the not too distant future when your small person can be trusted to sit on his own in some fashion. Perhaps one of the trailers like a Burley or a Weehoo? I can't imagine why you'd get rid of the Xtracycle. Kids on cargo bikes make an ideal situation. By the time he's three, it wil be your best solution. I'd not be surprised if you could accessorize it in a way to make it work well now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Toddlers, Kids, Urban Transport, and your Riv
Hi Everyone: Some nice kid-hauling set ups! I have my Hunqapillar set up for kid hauling (2-yo and 4-yo). Yepp Mini front seat (which I highly recommend) on albatross hbars; Burley Piccolo trail-a-bike (has its own dedicated rear rack). I also have a Burley D'Lite trailer. (I'm also an h-bar swapper... but that's a different thread.) I skipped the rear bike seat (I would have chosen the Yepp Maxi) and jumped to the trail-a-bike. (Note: I had and have a 2-child trailer already in the shed. Having it made it easier for me to forgo the rear bike seat, as I could use the 2-child trailer if/when necessary.) My son was ready for the trail-a-bike at ~3.5 yo. I could trust him to hold on and communicate, though I was extra cautious and kept an eye on him with the Riv-German mirror. I've heard of children getting sleepy while on trail-a-bikes, so I haven't taken him on long excursions on it. Initially, the saddle height couldn't be lowered enough for him to pedal, so I zipped tied the crank to the chain stay to create a platform for him to stand. I take him to school on the trail-a-bike. Of course, it's compatible with the front Yepp Mini, which I sometimes have my 2-yo. You'll have to give up your Saddlesack when using the Piccolo, but no big deal. It goes on/off quite easily. If necessary, you can attach certain panniers to the Piccolo rack while pulling the trail-a-bike. I picked up the HAR/HAB for family picnics. (Works great.) Some pics: https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/13999203980/in/set-72157643709359733 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/14374522134/ And the family on the virtual Enmoot: https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/14665658393/in/set-72157643709359733 2-child trailer: It's nice for hauling kids and toys to the park or around places. I prefer having them on the Yepp or Piccolo, but it's convenient and stable. I'm not sure how much longer my 4yo will be able to fit into it with his sister. https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/14235538308/ On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:04:28 PM UTC-4, Jay B wrote: howdy folks, We’ve been super happy with the Bobike Mini front child carrier for toting around our nearly 2 year old for the last year. Combined with a large rear saddlesack and front basket on the Bleriot, Betty, or Quickbeam, we’ve got our daily urban transport needs just about covered (we just moved to Houston, and while it’s not nearly as bike-friendly as Denver, it’s proved surprisingly bike-able for our needs). Our little guy is approaching the 33 lb suggested weight limit for the Bobike, but more concerning to me is that his shoulders are now several inches above the top of the backrest of the carrier and the shoulder straps tend to work their way off his shoulders. So, I’ve been pondering our next step. I’ve considered getting a Yepp Maxi (or similar rear child carrier), and while it would work great with my wife’s Betty, I think I might get tired of throwing my leg over my already high (for me) top tubes. And I would have a hard time giving up my much used and loved large rear saddlesack. I’ve considered getting a Cheviot and setting it up similar to RBW employee Keven’s that was spotlighted on the Blug, especially if I could fit Big Bens and fenders on it (I’ve yet to reach out to Keven to see how that setup is going). I have an Xtracycle that would also work with the Yepp Maxi, but I was really hoping to let that bike go as we really don’t use it often enough. I feel I have reached the useful limit of my theoretical ponderings on the matter and could really use some real world feedback from those of you with experience. All shared knowledge and lessons learned are much appreciated! thanks, Jay B. Houston, TX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Toddlers, Kids, Urban Transport, and your Riv
Years ago at a tanden rally I saw a bike make a very tight turn, oversrt the trailer and dump two kids into the road. I rode my daughter in a rear mount baby seat for years without incident. 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Jay, I cringe every time I see a toddler in a child seat. I think the front mount type, like the Bobike, is better than the rear but I would not/did not use either. As the famous Forest Gump wisely said %$# HAPPENS! A toddler in a child seat has no way to protect itself in a fall. It is a considerable distance to the pavement or the corner of a curb and their soft little noggin is going to take a major SMACK. I only put my children in a trailer. I'm not familiar with them all but I used a Burley. What distinguishes a trailer from a child's seat is that when the bike goes down the trailer stays upright. The connection between the trailer and the bike pivots. Trailers are more expensive, and they are a bit more of cumbersome, but I feel the trade off is worth it. Plus, there is a huge aftermarket for used trailers. Generally, when children out grow the trailer people sell them. Just my 0.02. Matt On Saturday, August 23, 2014 12:24:27 PM UTC-7, Jay B wrote: Here's a picture https://www.flickr.com/photos/jayburkhalter/14988353316/ of our current setup, and a link http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/84370349904/here-is-what-weve-been-referring-to-as-the to Keven's Cheviot from the Blug -Jay B. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Toddlers, Kids, Urban Transport, and your Riv
You are supposed to run a flag up high off a fiberglass pole to draw attention. Matt On Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:18:10 PM UTC-7, Kainalu wrote: I've been using a Yepp front with my nearly 3 year old that's been great, just ordered a Yepp Maxi easy-fit for the back as the regular Yepp maxi's seat tube attachment seemed like it would get tangled with my 64's dual tops. The rack adapter I'm fitting to my tubus cargo is going to add a lot of wheelie power that I don't need but it's just for a couple years, then a couple more for the 7 month old that's getting ready to take over the front seat. On the topic of trailers, I purchased a surly Ted trailer with the thought that I could set it up as a mega kid carrier as well as a concrete etc. hauler, but once my son was born I couldn't imagine putting him back there for fear of his being smooshed while a car payed just enough attention to me sticking out of traffic (keep in mind that we cruise NYC, any trailers let alone kid trailers aren't something people expect when they're feverishly cutting behind you). If I were using the country bike in the country I would let the myriad benefits of trailering sway me (after I rigged up some ridiculously heavy roll bars(surly trailers have massive load ratings)). Have fun out there with them [helmeted] babies! -Kai Vierstra Brooklyn NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Toddlers, Kids, Urban Transport, and your Riv
Maybe all trailers aren't created equal. And another point is that there is no substitute for common sense. Matt On Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:34:20 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: Years ago at a tanden rally I saw a bike make a very tight turn, oversrt the trailer and dump two kids into the road. I rode my daughter in a rear mount baby seat for years without incident. 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: wrote: Jay, I cringe every time I see a toddler in a child seat. I think the front mount type, like the Bobike, is better than the rear but I would not/did not use either. As the famous Forest Gump wisely said %$# HAPPENS! A toddler in a child seat has no way to protect itself in a fall. It is a considerable distance to the pavement or the corner of a curb and their soft little noggin is going to take a major SMACK. I only put my children in a trailer. I'm not familiar with them all but I used a Burley. What distinguishes a trailer from a child's seat is that when the bike goes down the trailer stays upright. The connection between the trailer and the bike pivots. Trailers are more expensive, and they are a bit more of cumbersome, but I feel the trade off is worth it. Plus, there is a huge aftermarket for used trailers. Generally, when children out grow the trailer people sell them.n bsp; Just my 0.02. Matt On Saturday, August 23, 2014 12:24:27 PM UTC-7, Jay B wrote: Here's a picture https://www.flickr.com/photos/jayburkhalter/14988353316/ of our current setup, and a link http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/84370349904/here-is-what-weve-been-referring-to-as-the to Keven's Cheviot from the Blug -Jay B. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Toddlers, Kids, Urban Transport, and your Riv
Great photo John! and a very similar setup as mine. how are you liking the P S rack in practice? On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:47:18 PM UTC-5, John Stowe wrote: The Bobike setup looks familiar Jay, right down to the SON hub and BM IQ CYO headlight and brown tires! We're a few months behind you, so unfortunately not much advice to offer on the next step. I have Bosco Bullmoose bars which come out a bit higher than yours, and I'm able to (just) swing my foot over the top tube with my butt on the saddle, so I'm hoping I'll be OK with a rear seat. Otherwise, yeah, I've had the same thought as you about a Cheviot instead. Trying to avoid a trailer in the city - bulky and less maneuverable. Plus everything needs to fit in the elevator up to our 5th floor apartment. If we lived in a rowhouse, or if there were a bike room on the ground floor, we'd probably have a box bike for around-town use. https://flic.kr/p/okoA1R Looking forward to others' suggestions/stories, though! John Washington, DC On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:24:27 PM UTC-4, Jay B wrote: Here's a picture https://www.flickr.com/photos/jayburkhalter/14988353316/ of our current setup, and a link http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/84370349904/here-is-what-weve-been-referring-to-as-the to Keven's Cheviot from the Blug -Jay B. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Toddlers, Kids, Urban Transport, and your Riv
Here's a picture https://www.flickr.com/photos/jayburkhalter/14988353316/ of our current setup, and a link http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/84370349904/here-is-what-weve-been-referring-to-as-the to Keven's Cheviot from the Blug -Jay B. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Toddlers, Kids, Urban Transport, and your Riv
The Bobike setup looks familiar Jay, right down to the SON hub and BM IQ CYO headlight and brown tires! We're a few months behind you, so unfortunately not much advice to offer on the next step. I have Bosco Bullmoose bars which come out a bit higher than yours, and I'm able to (just) swing my foot over the top tube with my butt on the saddle, so I'm hoping I'll be OK with a rear seat. Otherwise, yeah, I've had the same thought as you about a Cheviot instead. Trying to avoid a trailer in the city - bulky and less maneuverable. Plus everything needs to fit in the elevator up to our 5th floor apartment. If we lived in a rowhouse, or if there were a bike room on the ground floor, we'd probably have a box bike for around-town use. https://flic.kr/p/okoA1R Looking forward to others' suggestions/stories, though! John Washington, DC On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:24:27 PM UTC-4, Jay B wrote: Here's a picture https://www.flickr.com/photos/jayburkhalter/14988353316/ of our current setup, and a link http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/84370349904/here-is-what-weve-been-referring-to-as-the to Keven's Cheviot from the Blug -Jay B. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Toddlers, Kids, Urban Transport, and your Riv
Jay, I cringe every time I see a toddler in a child seat. I think the front mount type, like the Bobike, is better than the rear but I would not/did not use either. As the famous Forest Gump wisely said %$# HAPPENS! A toddler in a child seat has no way to protect itself in a fall. It is a considerable distance to the pavement or the corner of a curb and their soft little noggin is going to take a major SMACK. I only put my children in a trailer. I'm not familiar with them all but I used a Burley. What distinguishes a trailer from a child's seat is that when the bike goes down the trailer stays upright. The connection between the trailer and the bike pivots. Trailers are more expensive, and they are a bit more of cumbersome, but I feel the trade off is worth it. Plus, there is a huge aftermarket for used trailers. Generally, when children out grow the trailer people sell them. Just my 0.02. Matt On Saturday, August 23, 2014 12:24:27 PM UTC-7, Jay B wrote: Here's a picture https://www.flickr.com/photos/jayburkhalter/14988353316/ of our current setup, and a link http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/84370349904/here-is-what-weve-been-referring-to-as-the to Keven's Cheviot from the Blug -Jay B. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Toddlers, Kids, Urban Transport, and your Riv
I've been using a Yepp front with my nearly 3 year old that's been great, just ordered a Yepp Maxi easy-fit for the back as the regular Yepp maxi's seat tube attachment seemed like it would get tangled with my 64's dual tops. The rack adapter I'm fitting to my tubus cargo is going to add a lot of wheelie power that I don't need but it's just for a couple years, then a couple more for the 7 month old that's getting ready to take over the front seat. On the topic of trailers, I purchased a surly Ted trailer with the thought that I could set it up as a mega kid carrier as well as a concrete etc. hauler, but once my son was born I couldn't imagine putting him back there for fear of his being smooshed while a car payed just enough attention to me sticking out of traffic (keep in mind that we cruise NYC, any trailers let alone kid trailers aren't something people expect when they're feverishly cutting behind you). If I were using the country bike in the country I would let the myriad benefits of trailering sway me (after I rigged up some ridiculously heavy roll bars(surly trailers have massive load ratings)). Have fun out there with them [helmeted] babies! -Kai Vierstra Brooklyn NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
