Hello all

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi there,


I have joined to support Patricias effort, in order to improve the work 
here.


I am quite fresh to the Project, too. So please bear with me on responses.

So anyone tried to Install cygwin? And tried to compile the code?


All the best
Peter

Hello all

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi there,


I have joined to support Patricias effort, in order to improve the work 
here.


I am quite fresh to the Project, too. So please bear with me on responses.

So anyone tried to Install cygwin? And tried to compile the code?


All the best
Peter

Hello there

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi there,


I have joined to support Patricias effort, in order to improve the work 
here.


I am quite fresh to the Project, too. So please bear with me on responses.

So anyone tried to Install cygwin? And tried to compile the code?


All the best
Peter

Re: Hello

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Phil,
Don't think we have one guide to go through, yet.

Have you already a working environment like Dave?
If not I would recommend in compiling Openoffice first. It is currently the 
biggest starting hurdle for development.

All the best
Peter

Am 31. August 2017 22:07:39 MESZ schrieb Phil :
>Hi guys,
>
>I just signed up too. I'm less familiar with Apache stuff than Dave,
>but 
>I'd like to help. I like the product, and want to help :)
>
>Is there a guide or something we should ask about?
>
>Phil
>
>
>On 8/31/2017 3:49 PM, David Meikle wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> My name is Dave and I'm a long term user of OpenOffice, as well as
>Software
>> Engineer, so keen to support this initiative and get involved with
>the
>> project.
>>
>> I am an Apache Member and Committer over at Apache Tika, so know my
>way
>> around the Foundation, but new to OpenOffice development.
>>
>> Already have a working build so should I just dive into Bugzilla?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>>

Re: Hello

[Peter Kovacs]

*scratch* sorry I thought more of a starter guide. But yes the build guide is 
the one you need for first steps in building.

Also you might be interested later in the eclipse guide to get at least some 
ide support. (Also on the wiki.) 

And welcome! Hope to read you! :)

Am 31. August 2017 22:55:06 MESZ schrieb Andrea Pescetti :
>Peter Kovacs wrote:
>> Don't think we have one guide to go through, yet.
>
>Well, https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO
>
>is an established starting point. Please pay attention to the link at 
>the bottom "Step-by-Step Building Guide for Different Platforms" that 
>can be more useful than it seems.
>
>So welcome Phil, don't forget to tell us what Operating system you are 
>using (most developers are more familiar with Linux-based systems, but 
>we cover more or less everything), and ask technical questions to the 
>dev list https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@openoffice.apache.org 
>where you will find more community members.
>
>Regards,
>   Andrea.

Re: Volunteer to test

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Anita,

Welcome to the recruitment channel.
And thanks for showing interest in helping out.
Can you describe a little what your experience is?
Have you done Application testing before?
How much experiences do you have with open office?
Have you looked a little around the tools we use? Do you know them or is it all 
new to you?
What do you expect how this will be for you?

I hope you do not mind if I do not rush. I would like to make your volunteering 
count.

All the best
Peter

Am 11. Oktober 2017 17:29:02 MESZ schrieb Anita Jeziorska 
:
>

Re: Re: Volunteer to test

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Anita,

Fine. Thanks for answering the questions.
Let me write a bit how we work.

1) The volunteer principle
The project does not dictate what you do.
It is up to you to decide how much, where and how you support Openoffice.
We look of course for consents and agreement between the volunteers, but in 
general every volunteer is self driven.

2) mailing lists
We are communicating through mailing lists. Because we believe in open 
transparent world we publish almost everything.
There are only 2 lists with limited in access. Security and private (project 
management)
Also people can take over if there is time issue. So if you have a question 
some other community member might answer on recruitment. If you write to people 
only those can answer. Could take more time.
 
The mailing list that is focused around testing is QA. I suggest you subscribe 
to that list, and start reading what is going on there. (
https://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html )

The recruitment list has the idea of a lifeline. By times it is quite 
overwhelming and it suppose to help you to orient yourself.

The dev mailing list, is our hearth. Currently we are in preparation and 
testing of the upcoming release 4.1.4 which is in final stage ( you almost 
missed this party ;) ) 
But there should be a lot of on going traffic to check out what people are 
doing.

3) where we could test
We have 2 major test focus, where you can look into. 
A) release testing
As I said above, we currently test the release. That is done by checking if the 
release features are working, and if the release works featureless for you.

B) user bug report testing
Users are reporting issues. More often they need help because something broke.
Goal is to find out if the problem is user specific. In this case we ask them 
to reach out to forums or user mailing list.
Or if you can reconstruct the issue at your system by I.e. repeating the steps 
or by beeing able to reproduce the effect, then it is a real bug and needs to 
be processed.

We currently are in final release testing. Maybe you can follow/join the RC5 
testing.
If there is an issue write to recruitment and we try to sort it out.

Hope this is not overwhelming to you. :)

All the best 
Peter

Am 11. Oktober 2017 21:46:01 MESZ schrieb Anita Jeziorska 
:
>Hello,
>
>Sure I don't mind :) below answers to your questions:
>
>1. Can you describe a little what your experience is?
>I'm beginner without professional experience. Few months ago I decided
>to
>change something and started to learn theory of testing on my own (from
>blogs, websites, groups dedicated to testers, webinars). Now, with some
>basic knowledge I'm looking for open source projects thanks to which
>I'll
>be able to practise.
>
>2. Have you done Application testing before?
>Yes, I've started to test Firefox experimental features in "Firefox
>Test
>Pilot" project. That's why I'm familiar with GitHub where all issues
>have
>to be reported (I found some issues which I've reported).
>
>3. How much experiences do you have with open office?
>I use it every day because of my actual job, especially calc and
>writer.
>Mostly not sophisticated functions connected with creating tables,
>articles, formatting. From time to time I need to use something more
>complicated.
>
>4. Have you looked a little around the tools we use? Do you know them
>or is
>it all new to you?
>I'm not sure exactly which tools do you mean because there's a lot of
>information. I read about "Infrastructure", and it's said there to
>report
>bug via Bugzilla. I didn't use it yet but suppose that bug reporting
>scheme
>is similar to GitHub. I'm familiar with creating issues in Jira because
>of
>preparing to recruitment interview.
>
>5. What do you expect how this will be for you?
>I hope for me it will be opportunity to practise and finally use
>theoretical knowledge, and by the way for you it's chance to get user
>focused on testing, not only using for free.
>
>Best Regards!
>Anita
>
>
>
>2017-10-11 19:51 GMT+02:00 Keith N. McKenna
>:
>
>> Forwarding to original poster whom is not subscribed.
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> -- Wiadomość przekazana dalej --
>> From: Peter Kovacs 
>> To: recruitment@openoffice.apache.org
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 19:40:08 +0200
>> Subject: Re: Volunteer to test
>> Hi Anita,
>>
>> Welcome to the recruitment channel.
>> And thanks for showing interest in helping out.
>> Can you describe a little what your experience is?
>> Have you done Application testing before?
>> How much experiences do you have with open office?
>> Have you looked a little around the tools we use? Do you know them or
>is
>> it all new to you?
>> What do you expect how this will be for you?
>>
>> I hope you do not mind if I do not rush. I would like to make your
>> volunteering count.
>>
>> All the best
>> Peter
>>
>> Am 11. Oktober 2017 17:29:02 MESZ schrieb Anita Jeziorska <
>> anita.jo...@gmail.com>:
>> >
>>
>>

Re: Re: Volunteer to test

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Anita,

The release is almost done. But still testing could be done anytime. And the 
more feedback we get the better the software.

If you want to get started and have a try:
The release candidate can be found at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.4+Release+Notes

All the best
Peter


Am 13. Oktober 2017 20:56:43 MESZ schrieb Anita Jeziorska 
:
>Hello,
>
>Thank you for exhaustive describing. Now I'm a little bit confused
>because
>of lots of information and I need some time to get familiar with all of
>this :)
>I subscribed dev mailing list just to know what's going on and to qa
>mailing list. Hope that soon I'll be useful :)
>
>Best wishes,
>Anita
>
>2017-10-12 23:08 GMT+02:00 Peter Kovacs :
>
>> Hi Anita,
>>
>> Fine. Thanks for answering the questions.
>> Let me write a bit how we work.
>>
>> 1) The volunteer principle
>> The project does not dictate what you do.
>> It is up to you to decide how much, where and how you support
>Openoffice.
>> We look of course for consents and agreement between the volunteers,
>but
>> in general every volunteer is self driven.
>>
>> 2) mailing lists
>> We are communicating through mailing lists. Because we believe in
>open
>> transparent world we publish almost everything.
>> There are only 2 lists with limited in access. Security and private
>> (project management)
>> Also people can take over if there is time issue. So if you have a
>> question some other community member might answer on recruitment. If
>you
>> write to people only those can answer. Could take more time.
>>
>> The mailing list that is focused around testing is QA. I suggest you
>> subscribe to that list, and start reading what is going on there. (
>> https://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html )
>>
>> The recruitment list has the idea of a lifeline. By times it is quite
>> overwhelming and it suppose to help you to orient yourself.
>>
>> The dev mailing list, is our hearth. Currently we are in preparation
>and
>> testing of the upcoming release 4.1.4 which is in final stage ( you
>almost
>> missed this party ;) )
>> But there should be a lot of on going traffic to check out what
>people are
>> doing.
>>
>> 3) where we could test
>> We have 2 major test focus, where you can look into.
>> A) release testing
>> As I said above, we currently test the release. That is done by
>checking
>> if the release features are working, and if the release works
>featureless
>> for you.
>>
>> B) user bug report testing
>> Users are reporting issues. More often they need help because
>something
>> broke.
>> Goal is to find out if the problem is user specific. In this case we
>ask
>> them to reach out to forums or user mailing list.
>> Or if you can reconstruct the issue at your system by I.e. repeating
>the
>> steps or by beeing able to reproduce the effect, then it is a real
>bug and
>> needs to be processed.
>>
>> We currently are in final release testing. Maybe you can follow/join
>the
>> RC5 testing.
>> If there is an issue write to recruitment and we try to sort it out.
>>
>> Hope this is not overwhelming to you. :)
>>
>> All the best
>> Peter
>>
>> Am 11. Oktober 2017 21:46:01 MESZ schrieb Anita Jeziorska <
>> anita.jo...@gmail.com>:
>> >Hello,
>> >
>> >Sure I don't mind :) below answers to your questions:
>> >
>> >1. Can you describe a little what your experience is?
>> >I'm beginner without professional experience. Few months ago I
>decided
>> >to
>> >change something and started to learn theory of testing on my own
>(from
>> >blogs, websites, groups dedicated to testers, webinars). Now, with
>some
>> >basic knowledge I'm looking for open source projects thanks to which
>> >I'll
>> >be able to practise.
>> >
>> >2. Have you done Application testing before?
>> >Yes, I've started to test Firefox experimental features in "Firefox
>> >Test
>> >Pilot" project. That's why I'm familiar with GitHub where all issues
>> >have
>> >to be reported (I found some issues which I've reported).
>> >
>> >3. How much experiences do you have with open office?
>> >I use it every day because of my actual job, especially calc and
>> >writer.
>> >Mostly not sophisticated functions connected with creating tables,
>> >articles, formatting. From time to time I need t

Re: Introduction of: R J Wahl

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi David Larson,

What do you want? This list is ment for people who are interested in 
joining OpenOffice to improve the application OpenOffice.

Nothing more nothing less.

Do you want to join or are you looking for coworkers?

All the best
Peter

On 21.10.2017 14:45, David Larson wrote:

I use openoffice portable so its handy when I need it but out of the way (not 
using computer resources when I don't use it).  I do the same with the chrome 
browser as it launches too many processes for my tastes.   I don't use 
Microsoft Office as its too integrated with the OS.  I want my computer to be 
like a transformer Lamborghini not  an overburdened bus. I put 32gb of ram in 
each of my computers and I still feel that way as I have my own plans for the 
data space.


One slightly annoying behavior of openoffice to fix is sometimes when I start 
it the first time it complains about needing to clean up and quits before 
starting but it works the second time I try, however then it tends to state it 
is recovering documents I last worked on when I already have them saved and 
puts them into a read only state.  In addition, there is document formats that 
probably need to be added. On the ancient side, there is Wordstar which I 
discovered I still have old resumes written in and have to resort to a 
different tool to recover their valuable content.  On the current side, I am 
suspicious that the latest Word like formats supported are getting stale with 
the Office fans out there.  Hopefully these are not beyond our reach.   I don't 
personally care about spreadsheet file formats at this time as I only use them 
for my own experiments nor for presentation formats usually although I may care 
for those soon.   I do care about some recent new spreadsheet misbehaviors with 
moderately sized data sets I have been seeing which I don't like... mostly 
regarding auto filters that cause weird results that are difficult to undo.  
This problem interferes with my efforts to develop the information I need for a 
special new kindle book on SQL. Do we have a comprehensive list of the latest 
formats, bugs, and important features that should be supported but may not be?


Note I am willing to use github for public projects and I am using Atlassian 
Bitbucket for my private projects as I can have 4 coworkers in it for free in 
that we can use to get started saving the world from data overload.




From: Andrea Pescetti 
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 12:44 AM
To: recruitment@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: arjaywoodmas...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Introduction of: R J Wahl

CCing R J for the answer below. When someone is new, please reply to
list+sender. R J, you may want to subscribe to the list, see
https://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#recruitment-mailing-list-public
Mailing Lists - Apache OpenOffice - Project 
Website
openoffice.apache.org
Mailing Lists Apache OpenOffice Public Mailing Lists¶ We welcome you to join 
our mailing lists and let us know about your thoughts or ideas about Apache 
OpenOffice.



. Andrea.

On 20/10/2017 David Larson wrote:

Hi R J,

What programming languages are you learning/using and what are your interests?



From: Arjay Woodmaster 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 11:50 AM
To: recruitment@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Introduction of: R J Wahl

Hi I am R J Wahl.
I am from South Africa.
I am interested in general programming, computers and heavy metal.

I decided to look at open source projects as a learning curve towards
becoming a better programmer.

Thanks
R J Wahl

Re: Introduction of: R J Wahl

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi David,


Let me point out that we do not work Hierarchial. This might be strange, 
but thats how it is. The focus is on your desicion. You decide the 
amount, and the activity. There is no responsibility to do anything, 
only the respect from those that are interested in OpenOffice when you 
get involved. We currently have no company that is looking for any 
positions. :P


I understand that a lot of people have difficulties with this approach, 
so I try to give some lead. And usually Recruitment is quite quiet, 
since it has only the purpose to be an entrypoint for newcommers to give 
some orientation and space. We hope that they join the community and get 
involved there. If there is in need or you have some Questions that you 
feel fit on recruitment then feel free to do so. The Recruiters (where I 
think I am the most active one) will try our best to support.



In general the Bugzilla Bugtracker has a lot of tasks where one can find 
something to do. (I think over 3K open request, a lot of them Rubbish, 
old whishes or whatever).



We currently have following dev Topics in Discussion:

# There is the general Idea to do some generic Code maintenance by 
replaceing the good ols C arrays with the more modern Container based 
approches.


# TOP Community Issue is that under certain conditions OpenOffice writes 
rubbish to disk, destroying all users work. It is currently in Analysis.


# Our Microsoft compatibility sucks. There is the Idea to integrate 
OOXML from Apache POI. This is kind of difficult since we use a SAX API 
and POI does not support that, plus has limitations.


# We still use 20 year old dmake. Damjan is migrating to gmake toolset, 
maybe this could be supported.


# pushing next Release to public: i think we have work to do to iron out 
bugs so we cann call it stable. The dream is we manage it this year. (So 
far we also dreamed of releasing 4.1.4 in Q1 maybe Q2.)



I recommend to try build OpenOffice first. The build Process has a charm 
on its own and the Code is also not very intuitive. So participating is 
not easy task.


In all questions the dev Mailing list is the place to talk to.

Since all Volunteers are doing this in their freetime, sometimes you 
need to have patience and be persistant. If you assume that everybody 
has around the time for this Project as you, you are not so far from the 
truth I believe.


You are free and welcome to help as you think best. Sorry to stress that 
a bit. ;)


If none of the active topics suits you I can try and dig some other 
stuff out. No issue. Could take a while thought.



I hope this helps you and you have interest enough to make your way into 
the Project. :)



So data sientist?! Well I am happen to be active in that Area (roughly 
lol). So what you are looking into? SAS or more in python and R ? - Just 
courious.



Have Fun!

All the Best

Peter


On 22.10.2017 20:08, David Larson wrote:


I have been waiting for some time to see message activity here that 
makes sense.  It has been pretty quiet. Thanks for your reply.



I am an experienced software engineer with skills in C, C++, Assembly, 
Java, SQL and so on, in addition to constantly learning new skills.  
Let me turn your question around.   I am willing to take a chance to 
help volunteer a little of my time to make OpenOffice better. What do 
you want me to do?   I don't have much spare time while I strive to 
pivot my career toward data analysis and find a job  opportunity near 
me (or remote access) that doesn't include hidden age discrimination.  
Do you have a list of tasks available?  Are you interested in adding 
new tasks such as fixing the spreadsheet filtering bug?   I signed up 
expecting to see some activity and instructions on how to get started 
helping that I could focus on a task to help such as debugging, fixing 
something, code reviewing, mentoring making unit tests or even 
reproducing bugs.  My last email was both to declare OpenOffice as 
still being a worthwhile product and suggest possible ideas that occur 
to me.



Getting to know people  with similar interests but different 
perspectives while helping is a plus.   Nobody knows my 
accomplishments except my former job coworkers because I haven't been 
a social media type person trying to promote everything I do and I 
haven't yet placed any of my personal projects on public github 
repositories.  I prefer to spend most of my time focused on 
accomplishing the next something.


Best regards,
David

www.linkedin.com/in/davidmlarson
twitter @dynadml
----
*From:* Peter Kovacs 
*Sent:* Sunday, October 22, 2017 10:24 AM
*To:* recruitment@openoffice.apache.org; David Larson
*Cc:* arjaywoodmas...@gmail.com
*Subject:* Re: Introduction of: R J Wahl
Hi David Larson,

What do you want? This list is ment for people who are interested in
joining OpenOffice to improve the application OpenOffice.
Nothing more nothing less.

Re: Introduction of: R J Wahl

[Peter Kovacs]

The bugzilla link: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/

We are like 6 Developers. If you subscribe to Dev and say what you are
working on it I think it is fine.
However Once you have an User Account you can assign Issues to you,
signaling that you are working on them. Best is to leave the issues
Mailing list in CC, so QA and other devs can follow.

Once you have a patch you upload it to bugzilla. If you determind
enough to gain commiter status you can directly submit to our SVN
repository. (Please keep in mind that we might want to discuss a switch
to git. We have to take up the discussion on @dev mailinglist. OFC your
opinion is then also to be heared so subscribe to the @dev list)
The Revision number is then postet into the bugzilla to document the
commit. 

you might be also interested in looking at this page for searching
through the code:
http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/

All the best
Peter

Am Montag, den 23.10.2017, 10:48 + schrieb David Larson:
> I personally prefer Kanban and Scrum like teams to being in work
> Hierarchy.  The only thing Hierarchy makes sense to me is to control
> the money and the expected result being paid for.  I usually avoid
> being part of Hierarchy as I don't see it as being productive for new
> ideas. Suggestion:  Put a useful link in your email when you refer to
> something like Bugzilla tracking.  How do you tell how many people
> are working on the same task and what they are doing?   If we were to
> use a Kanban board, it would need a timeout for any volunteers that
> don't report in to facilitate new volunteers taking over a task.
> 
> 
> Data: I have been looking at Hadoop recently and have used
> Python.   R will come later.  My personal approach to data of any
> size so far involves a pseudo AI mindset I label as Instinct along
> with dividing and conquering the data from different perspectives
> until I like what I see.
> 
> 
> I will be getting up to speed on more DevOps automation skills over
> time while I play in cloud systems like AWS.  I expect Cloudformation
> and the Google management equivalent to be my best friends perhaps
> Jenkins also.  I have some experience with Gmake and it sounds like a
> good move.  I have Visual Studio 2017 professional installed on my
> computers but I am concerned that environment path settings are
> disappearing with windows updates on the windows insider
> program.  Next thing you know the command prompt no longer knows what
> python is and pip install doesn't finish successfully.  I don't look
> forward to spending time fixing that.
> 
> The garbage problem sounds similar to what I was seeing with
> spreadsheet filters.   Comparing what worked before and considering
> event conflict scenerios might help.
> 
> 
> From: Peter Kovacs 
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 1:45 PM
> To: David Larson; recruitment@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Introduction of: R J Wahl
> 
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> 
> Let me point out that we do not work Hierarchial. This might be
> strange, but thats how it is. The focus is on your desicion. You
> decide the amount, and the activity. There is no responsibility to do
> anything, only the respect from those that are interested in
> OpenOffice when you get involved. We currently have no company that
> is looking for any positions. :P
> 
> I understand that a lot of people have difficulties with this
> approach, so I try to give some lead. And usually Recruitment is
> quite quiet, since it has only the purpose to be an entrypoint for
> newcommers to give some orientation and space. We hope that they join
> the community and get involved there. If there is in need or you have
> some Questions that you feel fit on recruitment then feel free to do
> so. The Recruiters (where I think I am the most active one) will try
> our best to support.
> 
> 
> In general the Bugzilla Bugtracker has a lot of tasks where one can
> find something to do. (I think over 3K open request, a lot of them
> Rubbish, old whishes or whatever).
> 
> 
> We currently have following dev Topics in Discussion:
> 
> # There is the general Idea to do some generic Code maintenance by
> replaceing the good ols C arrays with the more modern Container based
> approches.
> 
> # TOP Community Issue is that under certain conditions OpenOffice
> writes rubbish to disk, destroying all users work. It is currently in
> Analysis.
> 
> # Our Microsoft compatibility sucks. There is the Idea to integrate
> OOXML from Apache POI. This is kind of difficult since we use a SAX
> API and POI does not support that, plus has limitations.
> 
> # We still use 20 year old dmake. Damjan is migrating to gmake
> toolset, maybe this could be supported.
> 
> # pushing

Re: Apology and explanation

[Peter Kovacs]

cool Thanks matthias.

Yes we should definitly do this. Maybe think of further roles and Ideas
people can do.
We should investigate!

Am Montag, den 23.10.2017, 15:34 +0200 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Am 23.10.2017 um 08:54 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> > Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> > > I could neither
> > > involve you in my activities, nor explain why I could not do so.
> > 
> > Let me add: while we were working on 4.1.4 we still did identify
> > some
> > tasks that would be suitable for this list but that are for future
> > releases anyway. I expect that those tasks will be posted to the
> > recruitment list now that we are ready to restart work on the next
> > release.
> 
> I recently found out about:
> https://helpwanted.apache.org/
> 
> Wouldn't this be a good tool to make our tasks visible?
> 
> Dennis Hamilton already opened one some time ago, but I never knew
> that
> it existed:
> https://helpwanted.apache.org/task.html?d7d4b55f275b2025c2f04d94207b1
> a00d5e6f624
> 
> I'd like to integrate it in our homepage, but I am uncertain where it
> would fit best...
> 
> Regards, Matthias
> 
> > 
> > Regards,
> >   Andrea.
> 
> 

Re: New Dev Volunteer

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome to Open Office,

would you like to introduce yourself a bit? what you intend to do and
what you are proficient with?
Maybe tell us a bit what have you already done to get involved?

Thank you!

All the Best
Peter

Am Montag, den 23.10.2017, 07:22 -0700 schrieb Tanveer Raja:
> 

How to unsubscribe

[Peter Kovacs]

To unsusbribe from the List, do the following:

Send an email to recruitment-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org

you will recieve an email with instructions (I think you need to simply
send a reply)

May I ask why you have subscribed?

all the best
Peter

Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

[Peter kovacs]

Welcome and Happy New year, Joanne!
I see you seem to run on your own at the moment. If we can help you, feel free 
to ask.

All the best
Peter


Am 30. Dezember 2017 21:01:21 MEZ schrieb Joanne Dzus :
>Greetings,
>
>I’m Joanne, a 35-year-old Social Worker from Philadelphia.  I have
>decided to step into the IT world, and Software Testing/QA seemed the
>right fit for me.  I recently completed a Masters-Level Professional
>Certificate in Software Testing and QA.  Next stop is taking the ISTQB!
>Once I become more proficient at QA, I hope to combine my interest in
>the human services field/non-profits and QA. 
>
>All the best,
>
>Joanne

Re: New Volunteer Orientation

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Tamin,


Welcome to the Community.

First step for development is getting familiar with building OpenOffice.

We have guides that are more or less acurate.

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

and

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step


The building of open office is not easy thing to do. So that is your 
first challenge :).


If you have question try to adress them on d...@openoffice.apache.org or 
on recruitment if you feel not comfortable with the other list.


We will try to help you. Please bring patience and a little stuborness.


All the best

Peter


On 27.01.2018 12:06, Tamim Addari wrote:

Hi Everyone,

My name is Tamim. I have completed my B.Sc. in Computer Science and
Engineering. Currently, I am working as a Software Engineer in Singapore.
OpenOffice is the default office suite used in my company. I am moderately
proficient in C++ due to course projects in College and participation in
competitive programming competitions.

I am looking forward to contributing to OpenOffice. Please let me know how
would I get started, whether it is by taking the "New Volunteer
Orientation" module or something else.

Thank you very much.

Sincerely,
Tamim

Re: New Volunteer Orientation

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Tamim,

You did not copy the error, but the summary.

There should be an other Error above it.

On Which Operating System do you build?


If you do not have the output anymore try:

> build --prepare --from writerfilter

then

> build -- from writerfilter

With luck you run into the same error, if your luck is not so good, you 
get stuck at another Position.


The build system is not easy to use.



On 27.01.2018 17:38, Tamim Addari wrote:

Hi Peter,

Thank you for your response. The build is completed with one error.
"
1 module(s):
writerfilter
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making 
/home/tamim/OpenOffice/aoo/main/writerfilter/prj


When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build 
by running:


build --from writerfilter
"

May I know how I find and fix that error?

Thank you.

Sincerely,
Tamim

On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 7:47 PM, Peter Kovacs <mailto:pe...@apache.org>> wrote:


Hi Tamin,


Welcome to the Community.

First step for development is getting familiar with building
OpenOffice.

We have guides that are more or less acurate.

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO
<https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO>

and


https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step

<https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step>


The building of open office is not easy thing to do. So that is
your first challenge :).

If you have question try to adress them on
d...@openoffice.apache.org <mailto:d...@openoffice.apache.org> or on
recruitment if you feel not comfortable with the other list.

We will try to help you. Please bring patience and a little
stuborness.


All the best

Peter



On 27.01.2018 12:06, Tamim Addari wrote:

Hi Everyone,

My name is Tamim. I have completed my B.Sc. in Computer
Science and
Engineering. Currently, I am working as a Software Engineer in
Singapore.
OpenOffice is the default office suite used in my company. I
am moderately
proficient in C++ due to course projects in College and
participation in
competitive programming competitions.

I am looking forward to contributing to OpenOffice. Please let
me know how
would I get started, whether it is by taking the "New Volunteer
Orientation" module or something else.

Thank you very much.

Sincerely,
Tamim

Re: New Volunteer Orientation

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome Indika,

Try to follow the instructions for CentOS 6.
It should work, too. When you get stuck it we will work together on it. Just 
make sure to save the output. 
Problems with the build system are in most cases issues within the build system.

The only hardware requirement I am aware of is disk space. If you have more 
then 50GB free you are fine. Below that (can't remember where the limit is 
exactly)


All the best
Peter

Am 29. Januar 2018 02:44:40 MEZ schrieb Indika Aruna :
>Hi Peter,
> I can only see build options for cenos 6.
> U am using Cent os 7. Are there  steps for centos 7?
>
>My computer is like this . Is this requirement enough to build
>OpenOffice
>?
>
>CPU:
>
>Model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-5200U CPU @ 2.20GHz
>
>MEMORY:
>
>MemTotal:7917412 kB
>MemFree: 2542532 kB
>MemAvailable:4934868 kB
>
>
>
>Thanks
>Best Regards
>Indika
>
>
>On 27 January 2018 at 19:47, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>
>> Hi Tamin,
>>
>>
>> Welcome to the Community.
>>
>> First step for development is getting familiar with building
>OpenOffice.
>>
>> We have guides that are more or less acurate.
>>
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO
>>
>> and
>>
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guid
>> e_AOO/Step_by_step
>>
>>
>> The building of open office is not easy thing to do. So that is your
>first
>> challenge :).
>>
>> If you have question try to adress them on d...@openoffice.apache.org
>or
>> on recruitment if you feel not comfortable with the other list.
>>
>> We will try to help you. Please bring patience and a little
>stuborness.
>>
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> On 27.01.2018 12:06, Tamim Addari wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> My name is Tamim. I have completed my B.Sc. in Computer Science and
>>> Engineering. Currently, I am working as a Software Engineer in
>Singapore.
>>> OpenOffice is the default office suite used in my company. I am
>moderately
>>> proficient in C++ due to course projects in College and
>participation in
>>> competitive programming competitions.
>>>
>>> I am looking forward to contributing to OpenOffice. Please let me
>know how
>>> would I get started, whether it is by taking the "New Volunteer
>>> Orientation" module or something else.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Tamim
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: Please take me off your list

[Peter Kovacs]

From another mail on this list:

you will be able to unsubscribe in the same way at any time by by e-mailing 
recruitment-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org


Am 4. Februar 2018 15:04:19 MEZ schrieb Pablo Maglio 
:
>Hi Bashar,
>
>Forward me a mail you received so I know where to remove you from.
>( All those emails have unsubscribe instructions at the bottom )
>
>Sorry for the inconveniences...
>
>Pablo
>
>Sent from my phone
>
>El 4 feb. 2018 09:01, "Bashar Bouso" 
>escribió:
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Re: Looking to Volunteer and Contribute.

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome Andy,

Great that you show interest in developing Open Office.

Sadly the access to development is not that easy, or quick. You will 
need some endurance to get involved.
As a first step I recommend to get familiar with the build system of 
OpenOffice.  Our build system is a bit complex and does need some love 
and hugs ;)
We have 2 guides. [1] is a general guide, while [2] describes step by 
step which help to get familiar with it.
If you run into compiler Issues, search for the compiler Error to 
recieve help. At the end there is a message which is not helpfull to 
resolve the build issue.
Trunk is currently recieving changes to support Windows 64 builds. So 
there may breaks depending on the OS yu plan to use.
You could try to build the last live version 4.1.5 which resides in an 
own SVN branch.


I also recomment to subscribe to our development mailing list.

Which OS do you plan to develop for?

Do not hesitate to ask any Questions or for help if you need some. We 
are traditionally very freedom oriented. So you are in lead to define 
how you participate.

And communication is key to success :)

All the best
Peter

[1]https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

[2]https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step



On 11.03.2018 22:25, Phuc Vu wrote:

Hi, my name is Andy Vu and I was hoping I could help get involved with
the development of OpenOffice. The reason I am interested in
contributing to this project is because I mainly use OpenOffice
myself. OpenOffice is no doubt a good application to use but sometimes
I feel like it doesn't allow me to do something that I wanted it to
do. I hope to contribute to the programming side of the project
because that is where my area of expertise lies.

Regards,
Andy Vu

Re: Looking to Volunteer and Contribute.

[Peter kovacs]

What do you mean?

Am 12. März 2018 02:21:14 MEZ schrieb Chanda Mija :
>Show credentials?
>
>From: Phuc Vu 
>Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 14:25
>To: recruitment@openoffice.apache.org
>Subject: Looking to Volunteer and Contribute.
>
>Hi, my name is Andy Vu and I was hoping I could help get involved with
>the development of OpenOffice. The reason I am interested in
>contributing to this project is because I mainly use OpenOffice
>myself. OpenOffice is no doubt a good application to use but sometimes
>I feel like it doesn't allow me to do something that I wanted it to
>do. I hope to contribute to the programming side of the project
>because that is where my area of expertise lies.
>
>Regards,
>Andy Vu

Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

[Peter kovacs]

Welcome!

Thanks for showing interest in OpenOffice. 
I think you have send an email with a html message. I guess our attachment 
filter has swallowed it. Can you please resend your message only as text?

Thank you.

All the best
Peter

Am 24. März 2018 00:24:09 MEZ schrieb Marcsuka Olah :
>

Re: willing to help development

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome Robert Michael Carter,

Thank you for your interest. We need help of volunteers with user experience at 
various corners. We need volunteers for updating Wiki, writing guides and 
documentation.
Or we need help at testing Bug reports.
And as a last discipline I think your experience could be of use is the QA 
(quality Assurance) team, which tests a release for regressions.

All help is welcome what interests you most?

All the Best
Peter

Am 3. April 2018 14:24:03 MESZ schrieb Bob Carter :
>I would be willing to help develop the system and help from a user
>point of view to iron out small problems.
>
>Robert Michael Carter.
>
>bobcarte...@hotmail.com
>
>+47 98400757

Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome Mike,

I am Peter aka Petko. I am the first contact on recruiter list and try 
to explain how we do work and  trying to help among others to get every 
one who is interested into the project.


We have a tradition of self driven interest. We help you when you get 
stuck, but the desicion of what you and how much you want to do is up to 
you. :)


The biggest challenge we have is code development. And we always 
appreciate everyone who want to try. If you want to do the contribution 
in this area we do offer a first entry challenge: Building OpenOffice at 
your home. (Guide: [1]) If you get stuck, the most valueable advise is 
to ask on the lists.


The most important list for developers is the dev mailing [2] list, but 
you are welcome to ask on this list, too. Kepp in mind to mention if you 
are not subscribed. Sometimes we miss this. Also if you have other 
questions, or do not understand something ask them openly in the most 
direct form.


After a successfull build I suggest we talk what you can do next. I have 
a list on wiki with fun topics, plus we have some other fun stuff in 
reserve that focus on code enhancing. You pick then the next challenge 
to take. Step by step. I hope that sounds fine to you.


We do use SVN for versioning, but we offer a github repo, where you can 
pull from, but not push to.


all the best
Peter

[1] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO
[2] mailto: d...@openoffice.apache.org


On 09.04.2018 03:57, Michael Sterling wrote:

Hello and Salutations,

   I have gone by many monikers over the years, but introduce myself here under 
the one which netted me the most financial and educational gains, 10-Key.

  Backstory:

   Introduced to the concept of computing at a very young age with a Turing 
Machine on pen and paper, I fell in love with the simplicity and purity that is 
programming. From there it has been a rather spotty history I’m afraid.

   Beginning with GW BASIC and that banana chucking gorilla, I enjoyed sifting 
through other developers code and making small modifications to learn how 
things worked. Stepped up to Web Design for a small car dealership in my 
preteen years. Went to a technical college for a C.E.T., and got sidetracked 
from pure programming with the beauty of even more knowledge of how it all 
works. Went on to create a database system for a family owned video rental 
store -Anyone here remember those?- shortly thereafter, and then got my first 
introduction to C++.

   Thanks to GameInstitute.com, I wrote a 3D rendering engine during my time as 
a robotics specialist in the field. Thanks to the long hours and massive Red 
Bull and Coffee marathons on that project, a mistaken install of Java -The 
steamy liquid kind, not advisable btw- and my overall paranoia of integrating 
with society at large, 5 years of development were scrapped. Learning from that 
lesson, I now use Git and am in the process of setting up a file server for 
home use while scrambling to recover -RECREATE- those lessons.  Other previous 
projects include a Management Reporting Suite that imported flat file data for 
easier consumption in MS-Excel via VBA, a real time touchscreen data 
acquisition project for manufacturing, and a point and click MS-Access GUI in 
VB6, among others. More recent endeavors include the PHP/MySQL stack, the MEAN 
stack, p5.js data visualizations, The classic GoF Design Patterns, Neural Net 
exploration, and Game Development in Unity.

   Having a family, while amazing, does make my efforts at coding less 
concentrated than desired, however, approaching the big Four-Oh I find a need 
to dig in again and make a contribution. I am unsure where my skills will come 
in the most beneficial to the Apache OpenOffice project, but do have a sense of 
excitement to be joining a community working on a piece of software that I have 
come to adore.

   Thank You All
 for such an amazing suite, and for the opportunity for this old man to 
feel useful once more.

Mike S. [10-key]

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Re: Regarding open source development

[Peter kovacs]

Hi Sanjay Rajpurohit,
Our mailing list does not accept documents.
We are an open project, we do not require that you join us.
In order to contribute you pick
1) a topic to improve. 
2)decide what you want to improve
3)make a plan what you want to do
4) talk with with people involved ( this is optional)
5) do something
6) send your work in


This mailing list is here to help people to get oriented.  So which area do you 
want to contribute?

All the best 
Peter

Am 24. Mai 2018 06:59:26 MESZ schrieb Sanjay Rajpurohit 
:
>Respected Sir, I am very keen to join this organization. Kindly allow
>me to
>be a part of this organization and contribute to open source. Kindly
>find
>my resume attached with this mail.
>
>
>
>
>
>Regards,
>Sanjay Rajpurohit

Re: Looking to Volunteer for Documentation

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello 

In order to unsubscribe the process is almost the same as to subscribe.
Send an email to
recruitment-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
You will receive an email, which you reply to.
And that should be it.

I wonder how you got on the list, if you are unaware what this list is. And I 
wonder what did you expect when you subscribed.

All the best
Peter

Am 22. Juni 2018 13:35:32 MESZ schrieb claudia wiebe :
>Same as me, I wanted to stop gettimg emails like that, so please again
>take
>me off from the list.
>
>claudia wiebe
>
>Patrick Elvin  schrieb am Fr., 22. Juni
>2018
>10:19:
>
>> I am as confused as you
>>
>> I am also a volunteer but just keep getting these strange emails
>>
>> PAtrick ELVIN
>>
>> On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 at 23:04, Mitchell Brown <
>> mitchell.barnhart.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I'm a recent college graduate and aspiring technical writer, hoping
>to
>> gain
>> > some experience and build a portfolio to assist me in my job
>search.
>> >
>> > I hope this was the right place to send this email, I admit I've
>never
>> used
>> > a mailing list before and am new to this whole thing.
>> >
>> > As a side note, the "documentation" mailing list doesn't seem to be
>> > working? There's no data for the FAQ or info sections, and when I
>try to
>> > contact the owner I just receive an error. Maybe I'm doing
>something
>> wrong?
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> >
>> > Mitchell
>> >
>>

Re: Looking to Volunteer for Documentation

[Peter kovacs]

Hi Mitchell,

There is no issue with the technology.
We are all volunteers and an answer takes time. So we require patience.

You are right to ask. The structure of the project is a bit difficult since we 
do not employ hierarchy or a strict organisation. 
If you see something that you want to change make a suggestion.
In case you need access ask for it here or on developer mailing list (you do 
not need to subscribe if you do not want to take part.)
Just mention it since it helps us little to take care.
In Cases of no answers just *bumb* or rewrite. Sometimes mails get not 
registered.

About a job support I think Open Office contribution works after some time. Of 
course you can show off here what you can do. In general volunteers are 
appreciated.


If you need more info or if you have questions then please do not hesitate to 
send a mail here.

All the best
Peter

Am 21. Juni 2018 23:03:51 MESZ schrieb Mitchell Brown 
:
>Hello,
>
>I'm a recent college graduate and aspiring technical writer, hoping to
>gain
>some experience and build a portfolio to assist me in my job search.
>
>I hope this was the right place to send this email, I admit I've never
>used
>a mailing list before and am new to this whole thing.
>
>As a side note, the "documentation" mailing list doesn't seem to be
>working? There's no data for the FAQ or info sections, and when I try
>to
>contact the owner I just receive an error. Maybe I'm doing something
>wrong?
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Mitchell

Re: I would like to contibute to open office

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome to OpenOffice.

You are contributing by taking part in the OpenOffice Project. There is 
no formal boarder.


We give you access as you go along. So do you have tried to do already 
something?


Try to solve some bug (https://bz.apache.org/ooo/), try to build 
OpenOffice from our guide:


https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step


If you see in the wiki something you want to change or write some code 
documentation ask for an account on dev mailing list.


If you have any questions especially when you get stuck ask on dev 
mailing list.



I hope this gives some orientation.


All the best

Peter

On 28.07.2018 11:47, ASP An Aryan Sinha Presentation wrote:

I would also like plz take me to project

On Sat, 28 Jul 2018, 12:16 a.m. aalizwel,  wrote:


I am a student and and I would like to contribute to open office.I can
write code in C, C++, python  and proficient in data structures and
algorithms.

Re: New Volunteers

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome Tony,

How can we help you to get started?
We do not have any particular structure to support volunteers. If you do 
something that improves the Project great, if not it is also fine.
I recommend you try to build OpenOffice from code first, but of course you are 
free to start / do what you want.

Thanks for your interest. Happy to hear from you more.

Peter

Am 7. August 2018 16:52:55 MESZ schrieb Tony :
>Hi OpenOffice
>
>
>My name is Tony, I lived in china, I was a C++ software developer, and
>has work in this domain for almost 8 years.
>
>
>Thanks.

Re: Volunteer

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Sandro,

Welcome to OpenOffice!

We are always looking for people to contribute to the project. However 
in the end OpenOffice is a technical Product.


Since we do believe in the freedom of the volunteer, it takes some of 
your time to get you going.



Where do we need help:

# We need help to test things.

## On Bugzilla we have a lot of reports which have to be reviewed and 
decided if there are still acurate, if the Issue can be followed.


## We need help at testing our Releases to find Bugs early.

# We need help at documentation

## The Wikipedia pages refer to older versions. We need people to review 
them and update them


## We are open for new stuff, like you tube tutorials- We have a channel 
I think.


# We need help at programming, if you want to learn that.

# We need help at translations, if you are interested in this.


We do not offer any Jobs or certificates at this point, I am sorry.

What we do when we see your commitment that we offer a committer status. 
You are from that poiunt onward official Part of the Project, which is 
stated Publicly.


Also all your work and Participation is public and can be reviewed by 
anyone.



What do you think? Is there something for you you would like to do? Any 
other Issues? What do you need?



All the Best

Peter

On 8/20/18 3:59 AM, sandro wrote:

Hi,

My name is Sandro Suzart, I am student of arts and it is amazing to speak to 
you. I have read in the Open Office website that this team needs support and 
want volunteers, so I am mailing as I have been introduced.

How nice it is to find an exciting experience? It is certainly like a beautiful 
lake where the water is smooth, there you shall see the great sky mirrored and 
smile with passion, because then you have met the infinity.

I would like to know how may I contribute and also if Open Office may offer a 
certificate of the collaboration work, if there is such a thing I would 
appreciate (or if there is at least any form to present that joyful experience 
to my university or future jobs). It certainly is a great experience like a 
great river to sit by and delight.

Thank you,
Sandro Suzart

Re: Volunteer

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Ravi,

You can unsubscribe if you send a mail to the address on the bottom of the 
List. Then you need to respond on the message you receive.
But please explain, you want to help one day, and get removed the next day. 
What is the reason?

All the best
Peter

Am 22. August 2018 05:24:57 MESZ schrieb Ravi Kant :
>I want to unsubscribe to mailing list
>
>On Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 02:26 sandro,  wrote:
>
>> Dear,
>>
>> It is nice to talk to you. In the page:"
>> https://openoffice.apache.org/students.html"; it says that I could
>> volunteer for a certain number of hours (Do you need to volunteer a
>> specific number of hours?), how will someone verify that?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Sandro Suzart
>>
>> Advice for Students - Apache OpenOffice™ - Project Website<
>> https://openoffice.apache.org/students.html>
>> openoffice.apache.org
>> Advice for Students. As a well-known open source project, we get many
>> requests each semester from students interested in volunteering with
>us.
>> Often it is a requirement for a course that they contribute to an
>open
>> source project or demonstrate some specific skill or knowledge in a
>> real-world context.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> De: Peter Kovacs 
>> Enviado: terça-feira, 21 de agosto de 2018 04:28
>> Para: recruitment@openoffice.apache.org; sandro_suz...@hotmail.com
>> Assunto: Re: Volunteer
>>
>> Hi Sandro,
>>
>> Welcome to OpenOffice!
>>
>> We are always looking for people to contribute to the project.
>However
>> in the end OpenOffice is a technical Product.
>>
>> Since we do believe in the freedom of the volunteer, it takes some of
>> your time to get you going.
>>
>>
>> Where do we need help:
>>
>> # We need help to test things.
>>
>> ## On Bugzilla we have a lot of reports which have to be reviewed and
>> decided if there are still acurate, if the Issue can be followed.
>>
>> ## We need help at testing our Releases to find Bugs early.
>>
>> # We need help at documentation
>>
>> ## The Wikipedia pages refer to older versions. We need people to
>review
>> them and update them
>>
>> ## We are open for new stuff, like you tube tutorials- We have a
>channel
>> I think.
>>
>> # We need help at programming, if you want to learn that.
>>
>> # We need help at translations, if you are interested in this.
>>
>>
>> We do not offer any Jobs or certificates at this point, I am sorry.
>>
>> What we do when we see your commitment that we offer a committer
>status.
>> You are from that poiunt onward official Part of the Project, which
>is
>> stated Publicly.
>>
>> Also all your work and Participation is public and can be reviewed by
>> anyone.
>>
>>
>> What do you think? Is there something for you you would like to do?
>Any
>> other Issues? What do you need?
>>
>>
>> All the Best
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On 8/20/18 3:59 AM, sandro wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > My name is Sandro Suzart, I am student of arts and it is amazing to
>> speak to you. I have read in the Open Office website that this team
>needs
>> support and want volunteers, so I am mailing as I have been
>introduced.
>> >
>> > How nice it is to find an exciting experience? It is certainly like
>a
>> beautiful lake where the water is smooth, there you shall see the
>great sky
>> mirrored and smile with passion, because then you have met the
>infinity.
>> >
>> > I would like to know how may I contribute and also if Open Office
>may
>> offer a certificate of the collaboration work, if there is such a
>thing I
>> would appreciate (or if there is at least any form to present that
>joyful
>> experience to my university or future jobs). It certainly is a great
>> experience like a great river to sit by and delight.
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> > Sandro Suzart
>> >
>>

Re: Volunteer

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Sandro,

No, we will not track your hours on the project. 
And I think we will also not organize the work.

However we can help you in picking the right work for the time you want to 
invest. So you deliver something and will not lost in to big step.

All the best
Peter

Am 21. August 2018 15:30:49 MESZ schrieb sandro :
>Dear,
>
>It is nice to talk to you. In the page:"
>https://openoffice.apache.org/students.html"; it says that I could
>volunteer for a certain number of hours (Do you need to volunteer a
>specific number of hours?), how will someone verify that?
>
>Thank you,
>Sandro Suzart
>
>Advice for Students - Apache OpenOffice™ - Project
>Website<https://openoffice.apache.org/students.html>
>openoffice.apache.org
>Advice for Students. As a well-known open source project, we get many
>requests each semester from students interested in volunteering with
>us. Often it is a requirement for a course that they contribute to an
>open source project or demonstrate some specific skill or knowledge in
>a real-world context.
>
>
>
>
>
>De: Peter Kovacs 
>Enviado: terça-feira, 21 de agosto de 2018 04:28
>Para: recruitment@openoffice.apache.org; sandro_suz...@hotmail.com
>Assunto: Re: Volunteer
>
>Hi Sandro,
>
>Welcome to OpenOffice!
>
>We are always looking for people to contribute to the project. However
>in the end OpenOffice is a technical Product.
>
>Since we do believe in the freedom of the volunteer, it takes some of
>your time to get you going.
>
>
>Where do we need help:
>
># We need help to test things.
>
>## On Bugzilla we have a lot of reports which have to be reviewed and
>decided if there are still acurate, if the Issue can be followed.
>
>## We need help at testing our Releases to find Bugs early.
>
># We need help at documentation
>
>## The Wikipedia pages refer to older versions. We need people to
>review
>them and update them
>
>## We are open for new stuff, like you tube tutorials- We have a
>channel
>I think.
>
># We need help at programming, if you want to learn that.
>
># We need help at translations, if you are interested in this.
>
>
>We do not offer any Jobs or certificates at this point, I am sorry.
>
>What we do when we see your commitment that we offer a committer
>status.
>You are from that poiunt onward official Part of the Project, which is
>stated Publicly.
>
>Also all your work and Participation is public and can be reviewed by
>anyone.
>
>
>What do you think? Is there something for you you would like to do? Any
>other Issues? What do you need?
>
>
>All the Best
>
>Peter
>
>On 8/20/18 3:59 AM, sandro wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> My name is Sandro Suzart, I am student of arts and it is amazing to
>speak to you. I have read in the Open Office website that this team
>needs support and want volunteers, so I am mailing as I have been
>introduced.
>>
>> How nice it is to find an exciting experience? It is certainly like a
>beautiful lake where the water is smooth, there you shall see the great
>sky mirrored and smile with passion, because then you have met the
>infinity.
>>
>> I would like to know how may I contribute and also if Open Office may
>offer a certificate of the collaboration work, if there is such a thing
>I would appreciate (or if there is at least any form to present that
>joyful experience to my university or future jobs). It certainly is a
>great experience like a great river to sit by and delight.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Sandro Suzart
>>

Re: Volunteer

[Peter kovacs]

Ok. Fine. We are doing this in our freetime. No one here receives money for 
their work here atm. So please chill a bit and give us time, too.
For votes we use a response time of 72h. Maybe that is a good time to start 
with too. :)

For starters you need a wiki account.
That you request on the dev mailing (d...@openoffice.apache.org) list. You do 
not need to subscribe to the list. 
Just write that you want to work on the wiki and write a user name you want to 
have.

The next step would be to do something. But I have sadly no overview where you 
can start.

For information we have a document mailing list, but I do not know how active 
people become when you write there. Still write an introduction there and to 
the dev mailing list. The dev list is our main communication site. With 300 
mails per month quite frequent.
The document list has much lower frequency.
So I would recommend to subscribe to both list.

If you have anything write here, I will try to take care.

All the best
Peter


Am 22. August 2018 07:26:28 MESZ schrieb Ravi Kant :
>I want to help , but no one is replying me back. I can help in updating
>wikipedia pages. So where do i start?
>
>On Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 10:54 Peter Kovacs, 
>wrote:
>
>> Hi Ravi,
>>
>> You can unsubscribe if you send a mail to the address on the bottom
>of the
>> List. Then you need to respond on the message you receive.
>> But please explain, you want to help one day, and get removed the
>next
>> day. What is the reason?
>>
>> All the best
>> Peter
>>
>> Am 22. August 2018 05:24:57 MESZ schrieb Ravi Kant
>:
>> >I want to unsubscribe to mailing list
>> >
>> >On Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 02:26 sandro, 
>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dear,
>> >>
>> >> It is nice to talk to you. In the page:"
>> >> https://openoffice.apache.org/students.html"; it says that I could
>> >> volunteer for a certain number of hours (Do you need to volunteer
>a
>> >> specific number of hours?), how will someone verify that?
>> >>
>> >> Thank you,
>> >> Sandro Suzart
>> >>
>> >> Advice for Students - Apache OpenOffice™ - Project Website<
>> >> https://openoffice.apache.org/students.html>
>> >> openoffice.apache.org
>> >> Advice for Students. As a well-known open source project, we get
>many
>> >> requests each semester from students interested in volunteering
>with
>> >us.
>> >> Often it is a requirement for a course that they contribute to an
>> >open
>> >> source project or demonstrate some specific skill or knowledge in
>a
>> >> real-world context.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >> De: Peter Kovacs 
>> >> Enviado: terça-feira, 21 de agosto de 2018 04:28
>> >> Para: recruitment@openoffice.apache.org; sandro_suz...@hotmail.com
>> >> Assunto: Re: Volunteer
>> >>
>> >> Hi Sandro,
>> >>
>> >> Welcome to OpenOffice!
>> >>
>> >> We are always looking for people to contribute to the project.
>> >However
>> >> in the end OpenOffice is a technical Product.
>> >>
>> >> Since we do believe in the freedom of the volunteer, it takes some
>of
>> >> your time to get you going.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Where do we need help:
>> >>
>> >> # We need help to test things.
>> >>
>> >> ## On Bugzilla we have a lot of reports which have to be reviewed
>and
>> >> decided if there are still acurate, if the Issue can be followed.
>> >>
>> >> ## We need help at testing our Releases to find Bugs early.
>> >>
>> >> # We need help at documentation
>> >>
>> >> ## The Wikipedia pages refer to older versions. We need people to
>> >review
>> >> them and update them
>> >>
>> >> ## We are open for new stuff, like you tube tutorials- We have a
>> >channel
>> >> I think.
>> >>
>> >> # We need help at programming, if you want to learn that.
>> >>
>> >> # We need help at translations, if you are interested in this.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> We do not offer any Jobs or certificates at this point, I am
>sorry.
>> >>
>> >> What we do when we see your commitment that we offer a committer
>> >status.
>> >> You are from that poiunt onward official Part of 

Re: Volunteer

[Peter Kovacs]

I am confused. Why would a student of Arts want an internship in Programming?
Do you need to fullfill some official regulations? Which ones? 

To get started in Programming is not a quick thing. It depends on your will to 
get into this. If you need this for your study we would need to organize some 
fast track to get you started. (I.e. learning to handle our build environments 
takes some time..)

Yes what Andrea describes is in general possible.


Am 22. August 2018 18:49:54 MESZ schrieb Andrea Pescetti :
>Peter Kovacs wrote:
>> No, we will not track your hours on the project.
>> And I think we will also not organize the work.
>> However we can help you in picking the right work for the time you
>want to invest. So you deliver something and will not lost in to big
>step.
>
>This is correct, but if Sandro needs that someone in the OpenOffice 
>Project Management Committee lists his contributions and confirms that 
>they correspond to a "timesheet" that Sandro will maintain and submit, 
>I'm sure this can be arranged.
>
>So if the obstacle is that you need some formal attestation for your 
>contributions and for the time spent in contributing, I think it won't 
>be a major issue to let you have something, provided you do the
>tracking 
>yourself and we simply validate it.
>
>So: if you want to get started, just pick an area or list your skills 
>and we can start.
>
>Regards,
>   Andrea.

Re: Volunteer

[Peter kovacs]

Congrats! You are now subscribed to Recruitment list. :) The main communication 
takes place on development list.
It would be beneficial if you subscribe there too.

Then we can collect Ideas where we can use  your skills.

All the best
Peter


Am 24. August 2018 16:01:06 MESZ schrieb sandro :
>Welcome to all fellows, we shall have a glad experience.
>
>Kind,
>Sandro Suzart
>
>
>
>De: Stacie Porterfield 
>Enviado: sexta-feira, 24 de agosto de 2018 10:02
>Para: recruitment@openoffice.apache.org
>Assunto: Re: Volunteer
>
>unsubscribe
>No matter how hard I try, I am unable to get out of these emails.
>
>On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 9:59 AM, sandro 
>wrote:
>
>> Thank you Andrea,
>>
>> Your proposal is an enchant like a divine lyric, I welcome what you
>have
>> proposed with happiness.
>>
>> Two birds were flying and then one of them asked: How astonishing is
>the
>> sky? Well the sky is a blue expansive embrace, thought the bird and
>that
>> embrace was ardent  like the yellow sun. The jubilant feeling aroused
>the
>> bird like a whispering wind streaming his body and it flew under the
>sky
>> toward freedom.
>>
>> It is certainly amazing to contribute to this amazing team, as I said
>in
>> another email my programming skills are mostly in PHP, but I was
>already
>> introduced to Python.
>>
>> I would like to know how is it proceeded the communication with the
>group:
>> a) Is the communication mostly in this mailing list?
>> b) How may us exchange information about the project?
>>
>> Glad,
>> Sandro Suzart
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> De: Andrea Pescetti 
>> Enviado: quarta-feira, 22 de agosto de 2018 13:49
>> Para: recruitment@openoffice.apache.org; Peter Kovacs; sandro
>> Assunto: Re: Volunteer
>>
>> Peter Kovacs wrote:
>> > No, we will not track your hours on the project.
>> > And I think we will also not organize the work.
>> > However we can help you in picking the right work for the time you
>want
>> to invest. So you deliver something and will not lost in to big step.
>>
>> This is correct, but if Sandro needs that someone in the OpenOffice
>> Project Management Committee lists his contributions and confirms
>that
>> they correspond to a "timesheet" that Sandro will maintain and
>submit,
>> I'm sure this can be arranged.
>>
>> So if the obstacle is that you need some formal attestation for your
>> contributions and for the time spent in contributing, I think it
>won't
>> be a major issue to let you have something, provided you do the
>tracking
>> yourself and we simply validate it.
>>
>> So: if you want to get started, just pick an area or list your skills
>> and we can start.
>>
>> Regards,
>>Andrea.
>>

Re: Volunteer

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Jack,

may I ask why you have subscribed in the first place? - What did you 
hope for?


In order to unsubscribe:
1. Send an email to
recruitment-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org

2. Answer the email from the Bot
3. you are unsubscribed.

strange normaly there should be following footer:

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail:recruitment-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail:recruitment-h...@openoffice.apache.org
--

Best
Peter

On 8/25/18 1:48 PM, Jack Riley wrote:

Unsubscribe me from this email list!

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018, 9:02 AM Stacie Porterfield <
sporterfi...@mormontrailcsd.org> wrote:


unsubscribe
No matter how hard I try, I am unable to get out of these emails.

On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 9:59 AM, sandro  wrote:


Thank you Andrea,

Your proposal is an enchant like a divine lyric, I welcome what you have
proposed with happiness.

Two birds were flying and then one of them asked: How astonishing is the
sky? Well the sky is a blue expansive embrace, thought the bird and that
embrace was ardent  like the yellow sun. The jubilant feeling aroused the
bird like a whispering wind streaming his body and it flew under the sky
toward freedom.

It is certainly amazing to contribute to this amazing team, as I said in
another email my programming skills are mostly in PHP, but I was already
introduced to Python.

I would like to know how is it proceeded the communication with the

group:

a) Is the communication mostly in this mailing list?
b) How may us exchange information about the project?

Glad,
Sandro Suzart






De: Andrea Pescetti 
Enviado: quarta-feira, 22 de agosto de 2018 13:49
Para: recruitment@openoffice.apache.org; Peter Kovacs; sandro
Assunto: Re: Volunteer

Peter Kovacs wrote:

No, we will not track your hours on the project.
And I think we will also not organize the work.
However we can help you in picking the right work for the time you want

to invest. So you deliver something and will not lost in to big step.

This is correct, but if Sandro needs that someone in the OpenOffice
Project Management Committee lists his contributions and confirms that
they correspond to a "timesheet" that Sandro will maintain and submit,
I'm sure this can be arranged.

So if the obstacle is that you need some formal attestation for your
contributions and for the time spent in contributing, I think it won't
be a major issue to let you have something, provided you do the tracking
yourself and we simply validate it.

So: if you want to get started, just pick an area or list your skills
and we can start.

Regards,
Andrea.

Re: Volunteer

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Jack,

I see. Thank you a lot for your response. Did you manage to unsubscribe?

I would like to improve the situation for others that fail to connect to 
the OpenOffice Development community. If you could spare some more time, 
that would be wonderful.


The first time I learned that you were on the List was with your request 
to unsubscribe on 28th of Aug. I could also not find any mails prior to 
this one in our Archives.


I assume that you assumed that when you subscribe someone gets notified 
and will welcome you, right?


Since this expectation is not full filled, because there is no general 
notification it is very helpful to understand the steps you took prior 
to subscription.


If you could help us by roughly describing which pages you have read 
before you have subscribed would be very helpful.


In any case I whish you all the best in your new position. If you regain 
Interest or time or want something fixed please simply write a mail to 
this list, and we have a talk on how OpenOffice development works these 
days.


All the best

Peter


On 9/8/18 10:31 PM, Jack Riley wrote:

I subscribed to offer my 30+ years of experience writing requirements,
interfaces and verification document.  Never was approach by anyone there
to address these areas.  Now I am teaching at a college level and assisting
companies with internal training in statistics and would not have the time
any more to devote to this even if asked.

On Sun, Aug 26, 2018, 4:04 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:


Hi Jack,

may I ask why you have subscribed in the first place? - What did you
hope for?

In order to unsubscribe:
1. Send an email to
recruitment-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org

2. Answer the email from the Bot
3. you are unsubscribed.

strange normaly there should be following footer:

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail:recruitment-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail:recruitment-h...@openoffice.apache.org
--

Best
Peter

On 8/25/18 1:48 PM, Jack Riley wrote:

Unsubscribe me from this email list!

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018, 9:02 AM Stacie Porterfield <
sporterfi...@mormontrailcsd.org> wrote:


unsubscribe
No matter how hard I try, I am unable to get out of these emails.

On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 9:59 AM, sandro 

wrote:

Thank you Andrea,

Your proposal is an enchant like a divine lyric, I welcome what you

have

proposed with happiness.

Two birds were flying and then one of them asked: How astonishing is

the

sky? Well the sky is a blue expansive embrace, thought the bird and

that

embrace was ardent  like the yellow sun. The jubilant feeling aroused

the

bird like a whispering wind streaming his body and it flew under the

sky

toward freedom.

It is certainly amazing to contribute to this amazing team, as I said

in

another email my programming skills are mostly in PHP, but I was

already

introduced to Python.

I would like to know how is it proceeded the communication with the

group:

a) Is the communication mostly in this mailing list?
b) How may us exchange information about the project?

Glad,
Sandro Suzart






De: Andrea Pescetti 
Enviado: quarta-feira, 22 de agosto de 2018 13:49
Para: recruitment@openoffice.apache.org; Peter Kovacs; sandro
Assunto: Re: Volunteer

Peter Kovacs wrote:

No, we will not track your hours on the project.
And I think we will also not organize the work.
However we can help you in picking the right work for the time you

want

to invest. So you deliver something and will not lost in to big step.

This is correct, but if Sandro needs that someone in the OpenOffice
Project Management Committee lists his contributions and confirms that
they correspond to a "timesheet" that Sandro will maintain and submit,
I'm sure this can be arranged.

So if the obstacle is that you need some formal attestation for your
contributions and for the time spent in contributing, I think it won't
be a major issue to let you have something, provided you do the

tracking

yourself and we simply validate it.

So: if you want to get started, just pick an area or list your skills
and we can start.

Regards,
 Andrea.

Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome to OpenOffice.


It is nice that you are interested in joining our Project. Do you know 
how our volunteer ship works?


If you want to develop our first challenge is to build OpenOffice. Which 
is not as easy as it might sound. :(


Try to follow our guide

generic: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

system wise: 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step


If you get stuck or have questions somewhere, please ask! ( prefered 
List is dev, but you can ask also on recruitment)


We are happy on anyone that tries to get involved and helps to improve 
OpenOffice.



All the best

Peter


On 9/14/18 3:16 PM, mira...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi
Im a pensioner worked at Zim company as a developer for 30 years
I didnt meet Apache yet but Im sure I can dove into it easily

‫תודה
מירה נוי
0527870999

Re: Starting Infrastructure Module

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome Chi Zang,

Thanks for your Interest. Have you downloaded and tried to build OpenOffice?

Which distribution do you use?

All the best

Peter

On 9/21/18 8:29 PM, St. wrote:

Hello there,
I am a Linux c/c++ developer. I am willing to contribute some help.
Regards.

Chi Zhang

Keith N. McKenna  schrieb am Fr., 21. Sep. 2018,
20:24:


Phil;

First off understand that Apache OpenOffice is an open source project
under the auspices of the Apache Software Foundation. As such we are all
volunteers and there is no company to provide the type of support you
are seemingly looking for; volunteers provide support as there time allows.

Now as to your specific question you have provided no details of how you
would like to contribute. The way forward is very dependent on the
skills you bring. If you are a programmer it would be into the developer
track, writing documentation would be another track, etc.

Please let us know how you would like to contribute and what skills you
bring so that we can better provide you with help. Also subscribing to
this mailing list would greatly enhance the process of communication. To
subscribe send a blank e-mail to
mailto:recruitment-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org, then reply to the
confirmation e-mail you will receive. If you do not see the confirmation
e-mail check your spam folder.

Please reply only to the list address:
mailto:recruitment@openoffice.apache.org and not to my personal e-mail
account.

Regards
Keith McKenna


Regards

On 9/20/2018 8:01 PM, pHiL rObERtS wrote:

Is there a active support here im failing at the cost of others

On Sep 20, 2018 6:38 PM, "pHiL rObERtS" <72sickko...@gmail.com> wrote:

Point mebin right direction please

Re: Starting Infrastructure Module

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Chi Zhang,

as Keith wrote, it is really important that you write always to the List 
we are communicating over. In this case recruitment. And others are 
interested to read.



Awesome, i think it is great if you write your progress from time to 
time. What you are looking into, or difficulties you have. Use dev 
mailing list, and best is to subscribe to it too.


If there is anything where you want to address to a smaller audience 
write to the recruitment. I do not think subscription is needed here 
except you want to help with newcomers.



Hope to read more from you and every other interested volunteer for 
OpenOffice.



All the best

Peter

On 9/22/18 8:47 AM, Chi Zhang wrote:

Hello Peter,

Thanks for the reply. i have not done that. but i will take 3 Hours to 
do that just according the 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO.


At home i have my Xubuntu 1804 on my laptop.


regards

Chi Zhang


Am 22.09.2018 um 05:41 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

Welcome Chi Zang,

Thanks for your Interest. Have you downloaded and tried to build 
OpenOffice?


Which distribution do you use?

All the best

Peter

On 9/21/18 8:29 PM, St. wrote:

Hello there,
I am a Linux c/c++ developer. I am willing to contribute some help.
Regards.

Chi Zhang

Keith N. McKenna  schrieb am Fr., 21. 
Sep. 2018,

20:24:


Phil;

First off understand that Apache OpenOffice is an open source project
under the auspices of the Apache Software Foundation. As such we 
are all

volunteers and there is no company to provide the type of support you
are seemingly looking for; volunteers provide support as there time 
allows.


Now as to your specific question you have provided no details of 
how you

would like to contribute. The way forward is very dependent on the
skills you bring. If you are a programmer it would be into the 
developer

track, writing documentation would be another track, etc.

Please let us know how you would like to contribute and what skills 
you

bring so that we can better provide you with help. Also subscribing to
this mailing list would greatly enhance the process of 
communication. To

subscribe send a blank e-mail to
mailto:recruitment-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org, then reply to the
confirmation e-mail you will receive. If you do not see the 
confirmation

e-mail check your spam folder.

Please reply only to the list address:
mailto:recruitment@openoffice.apache.org and not to my personal e-mail
account.

Regards
Keith McKenna


Regards

On 9/20/2018 8:01 PM, pHiL rObERtS wrote:

Is there a active support here im failing at the cost of others

On Sep 20, 2018 6:38 PM, "pHiL rObERtS" <72sickko...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Point mebin right direction please

Windows Build Environment futures (was: Open Office Contribution)

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome George!

This sounds like you made up your mind for a long term volunteer 
project, which is awesome.  A big welcome from me. I hope you stay with 
us. Your mail sounds like you do not need much help. The recruitment has 
the Idea to help people to integrate better, by giving them a dedicated 
space to communicate.


Now lets root the discussion in to Dev Mailinglist. Please subscribe 
there. Damjan is our awesome contributer for Windows. If you 2 align 
that would be awesome. Please use the List, so all can participate.


We currently use MSVC 2008 for all releases, Damjan started to migrate 
to MSVC2015. A bigger jump to 2017 is fine for me, but keep in mind that 
we are standard wise behind 10 years the current standard. Especially on 
Linux we support Distributions, that do not have support for c++11. Also 
current conses is to keep Windows XP Compatibility.


At the same time, the migration from Windows 32bit Version to support 
64bit has been started. The build currently breaks somewhere. A 
continuation would be awesome.


And we are moving the build environment from dmake to gmake. There are 
65 modules left. This activity has a huge impact because all platforms 
are effected. And according to Damjan, the low fruits have been already 
migrated, and the ones left are not easy.


@Damjan, you still would like to migrate then to SCON after gmake, btw? 
I would still like to, even I do not count my voice much, because I did 
not drive this topic much. :(


Hope those answer you some of your questions, and loop you in roughly 
where our status is.


You can try Visual Studio version you like. I do not think MSVS supports 
our code. We have some special features build in historically, that are 
used only in the project. And we strongly use multilanguage 
architecture. So bringing the support to Visual Studio will be also not 
easy.


At Least on Eclipse it is very difficult to get the IDE partial working. 
I am thinking on extending one IDE, and I am undecided if Eclipse is the 
right choice, or maybe netbeans?... Well whatever not your issue. :)


It would be cool if we could establish Windows Visual Studio Suopport or 
any other IDE.


All the best

Peter


The MSVC we use

# 2008: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5023

# 2015: https://www.microsoft.com/de-de/download/details.aspx?id=48145


On 9/22/18 2:27 PM, George K wrote:

Hello,

I would like to contribute to Open Office. My main area of expertise is
computer graphics i.e. ui/ux. I have previous experience with DirectX and
OpenGL. My main focus this couple of years has been mobile development for
iOS and Android. Also i know design and prototyping.

I want to help make Open Office better and dusty off my C++ skills. I am
currently trying to build Open Office on the Windows platform and i 've
faced a problem as Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET Framework
3.5. SP1 is not available to download. So i 'm stuck at the configure step.
Also is Visual Studio 9 necessary? Can Visual Studio 2017 be used, as i
can't find the former?

That said, i would like to start by making the build process easier(at
least on Windows). After many thoughts i 've come up with the following
build process:

-Install Visual Studio 2017(That means updating the project to work with
MSVC 2017 and provide all the other libraries and tools needed for Windows
through the VS installation. So all things Windows would be installed
through VS).
-Create a Windows script that will install all other prerequisites and
check out the repo(Provide a .bat file that will be run from the command
line which will install Java, Cygwin and it's modules, or install python
and through python scripts set up all the above. Then checkout the repo
from svn and be ready for build).
-Build Open Office as usual.

I know that all this may sound a lot because the whole project must be
updated to modern tools, but i am willing to try. But first things first, i
would be grateful if someone cleared my questions above, for the build
process, and after that get familiar with the code and discuss what would
work and what not, for making the build process better. And if the later
were to happen i believe that new users could be onboarded easier on the
project and start working on features.

Thanks in advance,
George

The Path to OpenOffice ;)

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Aryan,


We are still trying to get 4.2.0 into release shape. Currently we have 
to make a 4.1.6 Version. We do not have plans for OpenOffice 5 yet. What 
would you like to see in OpenOffice 5?


But if you want to help you can start by learning how to build 
OpenOffice. We have a guide here what to do.


https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step


OpenOffice is a very complex program and takes some time to learn how to 
do basic things. If you have any Questions. Please ask.


I appreciate if you write what your efforts and successes are so I can 
accompany you. Please write to the recruitment mailing list. So others 
can also review your progress, and help if needed.




All the best

Peter


On 9/23/18 11:31 AM, ASP An Aryan Sinha Presentation wrote:

Hello there. My name is Aryan Sinha. I'm knowing the Basics of C++, Java,
Python etc. So I would like to Contribute to Open Office 5

Re: confirmation

[Peter Kovacs]

Thank you Joy for your Interest in our project.

Can you please write a little more how you want to help with developing 
OpenOffice?


What do you learn? What do you like to learn?


All the Best

Peter

On 9/29/18 10:36 AM, Joy Lasam wrote:

This is to confirm that I'm interested in joining openoffice.apache.org

Thanks and looking forward to learning with you!

Re: I'm a new volunteer and want to get involved

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome Bhavay Anand,

I see you have requested Wiki access. Awesome. We are happy for everyone 
who volunteers. I hope I can read from you in future. :)


OpenOffice is a bit hard to get into. If you bring some determination 
towards the project, we will have fun together.


We do recommend to try to build OpenOffice from source as a first start 
for everyone who wants to code. You will need it and our build process 
is still 20 years old.


We are working on modernization of course, but it is hard work, and 
progress is slow.


We have guides that help you a bit

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

and

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step


An overview what is currently going on you find here.

https://trello.com/b/KxedeWKD/openoffice-program-status-board

(In the Market place section I try to sort and collect some issues that 
got my attention. Maybe a starting point. For coders)



Don't hesitate to ask questions or to give live signs from time to time. 
Helps to see what is going on and is more fun if we can talk a little 
bit to right?


I hope this helps you to get a start. On Development mailing list our 
main topics discussions are running. I recommend in subscribing there, 
and if possible to talk there. If you feel to impressed then write to 
the recruitment list. We help you out the best we can.


All the best

Peter

On 10/8/18 8:57 PM, Bhavay Anand wrote:

Hi! Apache community, My name is Bhavay Anand. I'm a computer science
undergrad living in Delhi, India. I had always wanted to be a part of an
open source organization but never get to know how to start doing
meaningful contributions to project. I'm familiar to open source platforms
like Github and software like git, mercurial. I'm interested in writing
code for core OpenOffice software, hunting bugs, writing tests.

Re: Fwd: I am a student of BS-Software Engineering

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome Farrukh Waheed,

It is more up to you then to the Project if you can be a part of 
OpenOffice. We are organized by the merocratic principle. If you develop 
the project you are part of it.


If you need access in order to participate, like wiki access, it will be 
granted. Commit rights are granted when we have some trust, that you 
mean it. So it is vital to


show interest  and participate on development mailing list. Best is 
subscribing to it.



In order to develop OpenOffice you need the understanding of our build 
system. Which is not an easy thing. We recommend usually to learn how to 
build OpenOffice.


Currently OpenOffice is difficult to build on Windows because the SDK 
you need is not available anymore. But I think someone on development 
mailing list can


provide you with the same if you want to try to build OpenOffice on Windows.

The guides you find here:

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7.2C_Windows_8.1.2C_Windows_10


Someone with WIX knowledge is awesome, since I would like to see a new 
Windows installer build on WIX technology. We currently use an msi file 
wrapped in an exe installer. That is not very nice.


If you have questions just ask on dev mailing list or here. Whenever you 
feel appropriate.



All the best

Peter

On 10/9/18 6:58 AM, Farrukh Waheed wrote:

Hi
I'm a student of Bs-Software Engineering in Pakistan. I've finished 2
semesters and covered  Introduction to Computing, Introduction to
Programming, OOP, and Data Structures. Algorithms may come in this coming
semester.

I have developed a good understanding of C++ now.

In addition, I'm already working in the field of DevOps (Configuration
Management). However, currently working with Windows based technologies.
I'm good with Winodws Installer technology with WIX and Install shield and
have well understanding of deployments methods.

I also wrote Wix Burn based custom bootstrapper application for my company
in .Net (C#) while applying WPF's MVVM pattern by studying it myself.

Presently working with Team Foundation Server, while managing builds and
developing scripts to automate and enhance certain tasks like injecting
versions in code before compile, signing at the end and then build the
installers, merge modules etc.

I'm very much interested to work on other Build technologies, like Puppet,
Chef etc,.

Please let me know if I can start now to be part of Open Office
applications.

Thanks
Farrukh Waheed

Re: Fwd: I am a student of BS-Software Engineering

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello Farrukh Waheed

On 10/9/18 9:00 AM, Farrukh Waheed wrote:

Hi Peter,
Thanks for the detailed reply.
How you guys are building it for Windows on your sides if SDK is not 
available anymore?


You are welcome. I try my best to get folks started.

People who build for windows have set up machines for this. And I think 
someone has the ISO of the SDK as a download.


If you ask on dev@, I am sure someone will help you out. We are 
migrating, but it is a difficult and challenging process. OpenOffice is 
very complex application as you can guess on build times below.


And we are only a view people active who are maintaining the software.



Build related documents shows the pre-requisites and looks like I may 
have to build it on my machine directly (no build server like Cheff or 
Maven etc). And I guess, I could use GCC compilers here.


Yes we require that devs build their own versions. Since we would like 
to avoid that your change breaks something as much as possible. Also you 
have the option to do a partial build once you have a build version, 
which saves a lot of build time. I am not sure if this feature is used 
often.


I think most devs are using VMs as building machines. We have discussed 
to make the VMs exchangeable, but it never got followed up.


We have a build server where  builds are done. (Buildtime is about 10h 
on those machines.)


https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Buildbot+info

We currently have no build bot for MacOSx releases. That are build by 
developers with mac. We know about the topic, and would like to solve it.




I've not used Linux since a long time. Please let me know, if on 
Linux, I can build for Windows too, so either I would get a Linux VM 
or may use some extra machine to install Linux on it and made it a 
build machine.

In which technology, you are building the msi file... ??
Since you need the SDK it does not matter where you build. I think it is 
better not to do cross platform builds.


I think, I may be a good help in WIX.

Awesome! :)


Yes, I will be subscribing to dev mailing list too.


Awesome!


All the best

Peter

Re: Fwd: I am a student of BS-Software Engineering

[Peter Kovacs]

This SDK you need for building Extentions for OpenOffice.

The SDK I talk about is this one:

Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 and this 
link is dead: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=3138


If you check here you see the requirements on your windows machine:

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Building_on_Windows


HTH

On 10/9/18 10:22 AM, Farrukh Waheed wrote:

Just a quick reply. I have found the SDK here:
https://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.5/binaries/SDK/Apache_OpenOffice-SDK_4.1.5_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe
Is this the correct one?


On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 12:41, Peter Kovacs  wrote:


Hello Farrukh Waheed

On 10/9/18 9:00 AM, Farrukh Waheed wrote:

Hi Peter,
Thanks for the detailed reply.
How you guys are building it for Windows on your sides if SDK is not
available anymore?

You are welcome. I try my best to get folks started.

People who build for windows have set up machines for this. And I think
someone has the ISO of the SDK as a download.

If you ask on dev@, I am sure someone will help you out. We are
migrating, but it is a difficult and challenging process. OpenOffice is
very complex application as you can guess on build times below.

And we are only a view people active who are maintaining the software.


Build related documents shows the pre-requisites and looks like I may
have to build it on my machine directly (no build server like Cheff or
Maven etc). And I guess, I could use GCC compilers here.

Yes we require that devs build their own versions. Since we would like
to avoid that your change breaks something as much as possible. Also you
have the option to do a partial build once you have a build version,
which saves a lot of build time. I am not sure if this feature is used
often.

I think most devs are using VMs as building machines. We have discussed
to make the VMs exchangeable, but it never got followed up.

We have a build server where  builds are done. (Buildtime is about 10h
on those machines.)

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Buildbot+info

We currently have no build bot for MacOSx releases. That are build by
developers with mac. We know about the topic, and would like to solve it.


I've not used Linux since a long time. Please let me know, if on
Linux, I can build for Windows too, so either I would get a Linux VM
or may use some extra machine to install Linux on it and made it a
build machine.
In which technology, you are building the msi file... ??

Since you need the SDK it does not matter where you build. I think it is
better not to do cross platform builds.

I think, I may be a good help in WIX.

Awesome! :)

Yes, I will be subscribing to dev mailing list too.

Awesome!


All the best

Peter

Re: Starting How the Apache OpenOffice Project Works

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi,

We are on dev currently about to release the first RC1 for 4.1.6.

Maybe you want to join the QA work, just give a short introduction on
dev mailinglist and that you want to join testing of the 4.1.6 release.

I think you will get all the infos needed. If something is missing just ask.


All the best

Peter


On 20.10.18 06:37, Hugo Rivera wrote:
> Whom it may concern,
>
> I’m working on the module “How Apache OpenOffice Projects Works” , I want 
> collaborate as Quality Assurance.
>
> Regards,
>
> Hugo Rivera
> (c) 899 133 8397
>
>

Re: Yes

[Peter Kovacs]

sorry for the late answer.

But I do not understand how ou want to improve OpenOffice. Therefor I
can not guide you.


All the Best

Peter

On 09.11.18 04:38, John Rios wrote:
> I am willing to help out because i sort of knew how to rewrite
> configuration of any kind as long as it has programming language that i can
> understand fluently. Since no one would help me on rebooting my Dell a d to
> restart it to be able for me to finish what i was trying to rescript an
> error of an script code.
>

When will HTML save small caps correctly (check Issue 127957)

[Peter Kovacs]

Mapfus has reported a bug and now is asking if we have an ETA in his bug
report. I pick his question up. And write to @dev and @recruitment,
explaining a bit. Usually @dev is the best place to ask this kind of
question.

To learn more on mailing lists in general please see:
https://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html


Dear Mapfus,

our project is organized completely by people like you. Some have build
skills needed or bring skills they have from their background.

All have in common that we currently do this in our free time and
unpaid. This slows down development, and makes planing unpredictable.

If someone picks the Issue up it will be fixed or like most Issues we
have, have to wait for the appropriate time to be attractive to be
looked into.


Howard has made some work on HTML5, since we support currently only
html4. Maybe he reads this and decides to look into it, maybe he sticks
to his plans.

Maybe someone else wants to look into it. IT is completely open to those
who volunteer.


I have developed a strategy to try to bundle Packages to advertise them
in case someone asks. For this goal I have opened up a trello list which
I am currently maintain alone. https://trello.com/b/KxedeWKD

Your bug has already been added to the trello board. And I plan to
search for more html4 Issues. Add them, and do some advertisement. Maybe
someone takes the interest up.

Also I try to track what we are working on, by moving the cards, based
on the discussions made on dev. I do not track names thought. So far the
interest in the trello board is rather marginal.


I hope this helps you to have an Idea about the current development
situation.

Thanks for reporting the Issue. We are happy on all contributions that
brings this Project forward.


All the best

Peter

Re: new member intro

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome in OpenOffice Development.


Hi we have a lot of tasks that can be done.

Our current activities are a bit focused around pootle at this moment.
Pootle is a tool that helps us to manage content of the software, like
menu names,  tooltips and help sites.

In the past it has been quite difficult to get  language changes into
OpenOffice. We are working to improve the process.

If there are more tasks to do, language wise I do not know. Best you to
get in touch on l...@openoffice.apache.org, and have a chat, what can
you do. The List is pretty much in lead here.


We have also a Wiki site, which is quite unmaintained. I think the
biggest problem here is to organize interested people. And align them
onto a plan.

If you are interested, maybe we can have a discussion on
d...@openoffice.apache.org. Maybe we find some more people who would like
to get started on this.

Then the next step would be to make a plan. And try to follow it.


All the best

Peter



On 15.12.18 15:23, Kim Sayford Wilson wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Original questions:
> Are you proficient in English?
> Do you like contributing to open source projects?
>  
> I’m an American online ESL (English as a Second Language) teacher with 
> Chinese education companies. I’m American and a native US English speaker and 
> writer. I am used to working, reading, and speaking with people whose native 
> language is not English.  I am also an MBA student majoring in Healthcare 
> Services Management, unofficial “minor” in cybersecurity. 
>
> I enjoy working with open source projects, but I am not a programmer or 
> coder. I like contributing to and helping open source projects. I enjoy 
> writing, proofreading and copyediting as a hobby.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kim Wilson
>

Re: Introduction

[Peter Kovacs]

sorry for the late answer. I missed your mail.

Welcome to OpenOffice. 

Best way to start with OpenOffice is to learn do your own builds and be
persistent. There is no shame in asking questions. Even the experienced
devs here have to ask around.

You find a general guide here:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

specific guide:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step

How to setup eclipse:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice_and_Eclipse


I try to organize tasks on Jira:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?projectKey=OPENOFFICE&rapidView=301

you can of course help to maintain Bugzilla. We get frequent reports,
and have to look at old ones if they still are accurate.
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/

Also you can try and write hints on bugs can be solved. Maybe a hint
where to look can already help that a solution can be found.

Or help update the documentation on Programming. We have some stuff
here: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Development


Hope this gives you enough hints and connects to choose how you
contribute to the project. All actions even learning to build is very
usefull for us.

All the best

Peter

On 31.12.18 21:58, Gavriel Yadgarov wrote:
> Hello,
>
> My name is Gavriel and I'm a 3rd year student (B.Sc. Computer Engineering).
>
> I'm knowledgeable in Java from University courses and mini-projects, but am
> now learning C++.
>
> I'd looking for a C++ project which I can contribute to and learn from.
>
> Usually I have 2-3 hours a day to dedicate.
>
> I wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
>
> Best regards,
> Gavriel Yadgarov
>

Re: Somnath's Help

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello Sommath Karan,

Sorry, I have just seen your mail. So this is a late answer.

You are welcome to help as much as you want.

But we do not work as you expect. We are organized in the way that you
are the Boss on yourself.

You say what is that you do.

I do recommend, if you whish to start, to start off with Compiling
OpenOffice.

Guids you find here:

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step


If you have issues, it is okay to ask. Everyone, even Experts on
OpenOffice development ask questions on building, because it is very
fragile and under heavy development.


We have over 10 000 bug reports in Bugzilla that wait to be solved. Just
look for confirmed Bugs.

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/

A narrowed list you can find here:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?projectKey=OPENOFFICE&rapidView=301

The List tries to cluster Issues. The Bugzilla issues you find in them
as Lists.



All the best

Peter

On 22.11.18 21:07, SOMNATH KARAN wrote:
> Respected Sir/Madam
> I am Somnath Karan, From Kolkata,WestBengal,India. I am not computer
> graduate but I can Code  My Preferred Languages are c,c++,
> javascript,python,html,css. Each problem which you will send to me a
> challenge to me. Very hopeful that I will not disappoint you but to be
> honest I want to start from ground zero here.
> Thanks
>

Re: My Introduction to OpenOffice community

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello there,

Best way to start with OpenOffice is to try to build it. If you get
stuck please ask on dev.

build guide:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step

source code: https://openoffice.apache.org/source.html

OpenOffice is listed with over 7 Mill lines of code in its repository,
and we still use code written in the 90ties.

there is lots of coding to do, if you want.

I look forward to read from you.

All the best

Peter

On 22.01.19 20:47, Nikhil Gupta wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> I am Nikhil Gupta, a final year computer science Undergraduate from India.I
> have 2 year experience with C++ in programming and now I want to move into
> the development area . I am new to open source and I want to contribute in
> OpenOffice.Can anyone help me get started.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

[Peter Kovacs]

Greetings,

What do you want to contribute?


All the Best

Peter

On 20.02.19 07:56, MG Ducey wrote:
> Greetings. I am an artist from a small town looking to expand my own 
> knowledge and that of my peers. Please consider me for contribution to this 
> project.
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>

Re: Volunteer to help build a hybred smashup, Complete

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Hichael,

I am sorry, I have a hard time following your thoughts. Plus we are not
a "great someone else does it" club. We are a "do it" club.

So if you want to join you are welcome. I have the feeling some of what
you want we can already do.

Unlike MicrosoftOffice you can use in OpenOffice, c++, Java or Python in
their full glory.

That leaves a lot more options to you, creating an extension (Addon)
that can do things.

Of course we ohave also basic like language on board.


All the Best

Peter



On 09.05.19 06:38, Michael Choate wrote:

>  OpenOffice:I'm a designer. Over the course of 40+ years, I've developed over 
> 100 games. Therefore, I love to create graphics, procedures and models. 
> Because I'm strapped for cash, I've adapted several existing products to 
> accomplish my goal. Among them: PowerPoint, Excel, AutoCad and Blender. (The 
> MS products simply because they came with my computer. I used AutoCad on a 
> previous job. And I'm still learning Blender, which is also free.)
>
>
>- With PPT, I can rather precisely create graphics that move and change 
> programmatically.
>- Excel allows me to simulate the scoring process as well as some graphic 
> renditions.
>- However, PPT won't always accept Excel VBA coding. And vice versa.
>- Furthermore, I can precisely align a 'shape' in PPT via 
> Format/Properties.
>- But, Excel Format/Properties has nothing to do with 'shape' alignment.
>- PPT Animation allows for 'duration' of movement of a 'shape'.
>- But, Excel coding executes a transition 'immediately' No flow of motion.
>- And with PPT, since the coordinates of a shape are precisely aligned, 
> why not set 'Origin' and 'Destination' coordinates and then, the 'Path' could 
> be shaped as desired.
> I could go on and on, but I think you get the point.
> For the ease which Calc, Impress, Draw and Math operates, I believe a hybrid 
> mashup of these programs would solve these problems and many more. Total 
> cross-platform compatibility. You could call it 'Complete'.
> Anyway, I hope you take my challenge seriously. 
>  
> Michael R. Choateinventive ideas ink

Re: looking to volunteer

[Peter Kovacs]

Szia!


Sure, wecome! here is a lot to do.

Language translation is done on the language mailing list and it is
pretty organized.

Ask there for join up / account procedure. Maybe it is also documented
somewhere in the wiki.


I write a mail for documentation.

All the best

Peter


On 17.05.19 08:58, Sándor Czimmer wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I hope this is the right place to write.
> I'm Sandor Czimmer, a physicist from Hungary. I would like volunteer for
> doing documentations and translations in Hungarian if needed.
>
> Best regards
> Sandor Czimmer
>

Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

[Peter Kovacs]

We had a lot off contributors over time and you might be the next
contributor to this awesome project. :)

The oldest code in OpenOffice is maybe older then Microsoft Office. What
I want to say, it might be not as easy as you might think to improve
what youz want to improve.

We recommend to build OpenOffice from code for starters. It is quite a
challenge since our build system is aged and we are in the middle of
changes.

Also we welcome everything that you seem fit to change. For Code changes
we request a Test driven development approach. We use google test library.


Welcome to OpenOffice. I hope to read from you and you hand in patches.


All  the best

Peter

On 29.05.19 02:28, Ynjiun Paul Wang wrote:
> Dear,
>
>  
>
> I have been using openoffice for more than 10 years now. My primary
> interests is to edit/typeset Bible using openoffice (since version 2.0 now
> 4.1.5) You may check out the oo converted pdf bible of my works at fojc.net.
> For years, I have been struggling with the "centernotes" layout and
> formatting issues (you may check out what it looks like from fojc.net bible
> download). In shorts, the centernotes that anchored with paragraph might
> overlap (or collided) each other from left column and right column
> paragraphs. I have been trying to manually move the centernotes around for
> years. But to a point, now, I think I better to contribute to source code of
> openoffice writer to "automate" this centernotes formatting/typesetting
> work. I am anxious to solve this problem fundamentally. I have been
> programming in all kind languages for years. C++ was one of my first few
> programming languages in college and in my early career. I believe I can
> pick it up again very quickly. I have Computer Science in imaging processing
> background with Ph.D degree and actively using Python and OpenCV and
> occasionally in my hobby working on Elixir on Pheonix as well as ruby on
> rails. I hope I can contribute to oo writer to a point that one day I don't
> need to manually shuffling the "centernotes" any more ; ))
>
>  
>
> Let me know how can I get started : perhaps in Text Document => Text Frame
> formatting code review ?
>
>  
>
> Thanks for pointing me the starting point.
>
>  
>
> -Paul
>
>  
>
> y...@att.net
>
>
>
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>

RE: My Introduction to OpenOffice community

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello,

There is a self-service unsubscribe option.
https://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html

All the best
Peter

Am 25. Juni 2019 20:12:40 MESZ schrieb Kim Wilson :
>How do I remove myself from this list?  Is there an ‘unsubscribe’
>option?
>
>
>
>Thank you.
>
>
>
>Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>Windows 10
>
>
>
>
>From: Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t 
>Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 10:59:51 AM
>To: recruitment@openoffice.apache.org
>Subject: Re: My Introduction to OpenOffice community
>
>IAM;  1
>@
>
>Am Di., 25. Juni 2019 um 16:59 Uhr schrieb Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t <
>kaiolafketelhut...@gmail.com>:
>
>> IAM
>> Iam;
>> C]
>> C++
>> C++;
>>
>>
>> Am Di., 25. Juni 2019 um 16:10 Uhr schrieb ASP An Aryan Sinha
>Presentation
>> :
>>
>>> Iam also iam master in C++ & Java but Iam new to Openoffice so i
>need some
>>> source codes and xtra dev help ..so please
>>>
>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019, 7:03 pm Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t, <
>>> kaiolafketelhut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >  1
>>> > BREXIT
>>> > 1
>>> >
>>> > Am Mi., 23. Jan. 2019 um 01:35 Uhr schrieb Peter Kovacs <
>>> pe...@apache.org
>>> > >:
>>> >
>>> > > Hello there,
>>> > >
>>> > > Best way to start with OpenOffice is to try to build it. If you
>get
>>> > > stuck please ask on dev.
>>> > >
>>> > > build guide:
>>> > >
>https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step
>>> > >
>>> > > source code: https://openoffice.apache.org/source.html
>>> > >
>>> > > OpenOffice is listed with over 7 Mill lines of code in its
>repository,
>>> > > and we still use code written in the 90ties.
>>> > >
>>> > > there is lots of coding to do, if you want.
>>> > >
>>> > > I look forward to read from you.
>>> > >
>>> > > All the best
>>> > >
>>> > > Peter
>>> > >
>>> > > On 22.01.19 20:47, Nikhil Gupta wrote:
>>> > > > Hi everyone,
>>> > > > I am Nikhil Gupta, a final year computer science Undergraduate
>from
>>> > > India.I
>>> > > > have 2 year experience with C++ in programming and now I want
>to
>>> move
>>> > > into
>>> > > > the development area . I am new to open source and I want to
>>> contribute
>>> > > in
>>> > > > OpenOffice.Can anyone help me get started.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Thanks in advance.
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >  OrG
>>> > value?
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>  OrG
>> value?
>>
>>
>
>--
> OrG
>value?

Re: My Introduction to OpenOffice community

[Peter Kovacs]

I am not sure what you miss.
Are you looking for this?
https://openoffice.apache.org/source.html

Question for code are best asked on the dev mailing list. Please have some 
patience thought.

There are a lot of bits and pieces on the wiki.

All the best
Peter

Am 25. Juni 2019 16:09:40 MESZ schrieb ASP An Aryan Sinha Presentation 
:
>Iam also iam master in C++ & Java but Iam new to Openoffice so i need
>some
>source codes and xtra dev help ..so please
>
>On Tue, 25 Jun 2019, 7:03 pm Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t, <
>kaiolafketelhut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  1
>> BREXIT
>> 1
>>
>> Am Mi., 23. Jan. 2019 um 01:35 Uhr schrieb Peter Kovacs
>> >:
>>
>> > Hello there,
>> >
>> > Best way to start with OpenOffice is to try to build it. If you get
>> > stuck please ask on dev.
>> >
>> > build guide:
>> > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step
>> >
>> > source code: https://openoffice.apache.org/source.html
>> >
>> > OpenOffice is listed with over 7 Mill lines of code in its
>repository,
>> > and we still use code written in the 90ties.
>> >
>> > there is lots of coding to do, if you want.
>> >
>> > I look forward to read from you.
>> >
>> > All the best
>> >
>> > Peter
>> >
>> > On 22.01.19 20:47, Nikhil Gupta wrote:
>> > > Hi everyone,
>> > > I am Nikhil Gupta, a final year computer science Undergraduate
>from
>> > India.I
>> > > have 2 year experience with C++ in programming and now I want to
>move
>> > into
>> > > the development area . I am new to open source and I want to
>contribute
>> > in
>> > > OpenOffice.Can anyone help me get started.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks in advance.
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>>  OrG
>> value?
>>

Re: Application

[Peter Kovacs]

When you want to code we recoment to start by learning how to build.
After that you can choose.
The last commit from pats shows how to change c-arrays into stl structures.
We have some patches from LO that needs to be integrated.
You could also help with the programm documentation, but I am not sure what the 
best move is in this respect.
Since there is a lot of developer docs available, but it is not very 
accessible. 

Am 2. August 2019 21:13:47 MESZ schrieb Noel Shantell :
>So how do u get started?
>
>On Thursday, August 1, 2019, Patricia Shanahan  wrote:
>
>> OpenOffice is an all-volunteer project within the Apache Software
>> Foundation. If you would like to contribute to OpenOffice we can
>always use
>> C++ programmers, but we cannot employ them.
>>
>> On 8/1/2019 2:11 PM, Daniel Mobley wrote:
>>
>>> To whom it may concern,
>>> this is a forwarded copy of a previous message which was sent to the
>other
>>> contact email listed on your website.
>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>> From: Daniel Mobley 
>>> Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 4:10 PM
>>> Subject: Application
>>> To: 
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello, my name is Daniel Mobley and I am interested in employment
>>> opportunities with your company. I am a native English speaker and a
>>> TEFL-certified teacher with three years of experience. Other
>languages in
>>> which I am competent include both Spanish and Arabic, and, should
>the need
>>> arise I would be happy to relocate for this position and/or the
>>> acquisition
>>> of Mandarin Chinese.
>>> I would like to be accepted on the grounds of my afluence in English
>>> writing and editing as I do believe my skills will contribute to the
>goals
>>> of the organization quite satisfactorily. If there exists any
>>> opportunities
>>> with C++ I would love to know what is needed and would be willing to
>take
>>> any courses necessary.
>>>
>>> Please let me know what can be done as I am excited for this
>opportunity.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>

Re: Application

[Peter Kovacs]

We are working on making our official GH repo accessible.

You can currently pull, but not push. When you have something tell us
your GH user and we have a look how to integrate. Ok?

https://github.com/apache/openoffice


On 03.08.19 01:09, Neftaly Rossano wrote:
> Can you please share your GH users?
> Thanks!
>
> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 5:00 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>
>> When you want to code we recoment to start by learning how to build.
>> After that you can choose.
>> The last commit from pats shows how to change c-arrays into stl structures.
>> We have some patches from LO that needs to be integrated.
>> You could also help with the programm documentation, but I am not sure
>> what the best move is in this respect.
>> Since there is a lot of developer docs available, but it is not very
>> accessible.
>>
>> Am 2. August 2019 21:13:47 MESZ schrieb Noel Shantell <
>> noel.shant...@gmail.com>:
>>> So how do u get started?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 1, 2019, Patricia Shanahan  wrote:
>>>
>>>> OpenOffice is an all-volunteer project within the Apache Software
>>>> Foundation. If you would like to contribute to OpenOffice we can
>>> always use
>>>> C++ programmers, but we cannot employ them.
>>>>
>>>> On 8/1/2019 2:11 PM, Daniel Mobley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> To whom it may concern,
>>>>> this is a forwarded copy of a previous message which was sent to the
>>> other
>>>>> contact email listed on your website.
>>>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>>>> From: Daniel Mobley 
>>>>> Date: Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 4:10 PM
>>>>> Subject: Application
>>>>> To: 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello, my name is Daniel Mobley and I am interested in employment
>>>>> opportunities with your company. I am a native English speaker and a
>>>>> TEFL-certified teacher with three years of experience. Other
>>> languages in
>>>>> which I am competent include both Spanish and Arabic, and, should
>>> the need
>>>>> arise I would be happy to relocate for this position and/or the
>>>>> acquisition
>>>>> of Mandarin Chinese.
>>>>> I would like to be accepted on the grounds of my afluence in English
>>>>> writing and editing as I do believe my skills will contribute to the
>>> goals
>>>>> of the organization quite satisfactorily. If there exists any
>>>>> opportunities
>>>>> with C++ I would love to know what is needed and would be willing to
>>> take
>>>>> any courses necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know what can be done as I am excited for this
>>> opportunity.
>>>>> Thank you for your time and consideration,
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>>

Re: contributing to Apache

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello,

We are really not good at getting people in the position that they can 
contribute. It involves a lot of will and determination on your behalf.

If you want to develop, I suggest to start with the basics and learn to build 
OpenOffice from code base. We have build guides on our wiki. 
You can help to improve the documentation on the wiki.

Also subscribing to d...@openoffice.apache.org and try to follow the discussion 
and try to find ways to contribute.
Very important is to ask questions and try to use the informations you have.

All the best
Peter

Am 22. August 2019 18:03:40 MESZ schrieb "Sr. Ziviani" :
>Helo! 
>I’m the same situation of you. I would like to contribute. There is
>anyone answering the recruitment? 
>
>Hugo Ziviani
>
>Em 16 de ago de 2019, à(s) 19:42, Ramtin 
>escreveu:
>
>> Hello Recruitment,
>> 
>> I am an aspiring developer. However, I am new to the C++ language and
>am currently learning on my own time while attending university. I'm
>hoping to start small with any contributions I can even if it doesn't
>involve programming.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Ramtin
>> 

Re: contributing to Apache

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello all,

I am not sure if you have subscribed or not. And I forogt to answer to
the email addresses. This is my second try based on what Sankar already
stated. Thanks Sankar for your answer.

Sankar Ganesh KMS wrote:

> However if we require more contribution to
> our project.we will surely let you know.
 I want to clarify:

We have definitely need in contributions. There are simply not much
volunteers active and we are not good at focusing on new people how to
contribute, while we are overwhelmed with all the open work.

If you want to contribute to openoffice you need to show the initiative
on your side. We are open for all things that you want to do.

Where we need help is at

# review, index and restructure documentation. (Forming all information
to one concept.

#  need to document code (currently it is hard to understand how each
piece works together)

#  need to move webside technology (the CMS technology we use is at end
of live, we need to move it.)

# need to update themes and layout on our websides (the wiki templates
are causing issues. We need to update the CMS. Here some work has been done)

#  creating a mac build bot on Azure (not mayor priority. Just an option.)

#  have a lot of coding contribution request. These can be seen on
bugzilla or in an smaller overview on jira. (in general. I really
recommend in learning how to build first as suggested by Sankar)

Coding contribution can be done easier through github for new
committers, we have moved to git, so we can use github for new committers).

And let me be clear anyone is a committer who does work. We do not
distinguish beyond this simple fact.

If you have questions you may ask them here (slow response time) or on
d...@openoffice.apache.org with a better response time.

please note: we all do this in our freetime so response might be slow in
general. Just ask again.


Hope that helps.

Best

Peter

On 22.08.19 19:15, Sankar Ganesh KMS wrote:
> Hi Ramtin,
>
>   Good to hear from you. However if we require more contribution to
> our project.we will surely let you know.In the meantime try building open
> office from soure try to understand documentation etc and  Make yourself
> more comfortable with openoffice source.
>
> With best regards,
> Sankar
> ‌‌
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 8:55 PM Ramtin  wrote:
>
>> Hello Recruitment,
>>
>> I am an aspiring developer. However, I am new to the C++ language and am
>> currently learning on my own time while attending university. I'm hoping
>> to start small with any contributions I can even if it doesn't involve
>> programming.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Ramtin
>>
>>

Welcome, how we work, what you can do (was: Re: Introduction)

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Chris, and all others who are interested,

welcome to Apache OpenOffice.

Despite what you can read, we are basically anarchistic organized. Which
means: No one is gonna tell you what to do. It is up to you. To be
honest this is the biggest obstacle to volunteers interested in joining
OpenOffice.

To help people to find their ways we try to help to the best of our
abilities. We communicate mainly over @dev mailing list.
So feel free to ask and talk your way through. you can search the list
for answers at [0]
We have created a list of generic fields you can get active in link [1].
We have also a lot written to cwiki [1] or mwiki (architecture page) [2].

What else.
I am trying an "Epic" List at [3], trying to cluster Bugs, hoping to
create a plan how to solve multiple bugs in a workflow.
Our official bug tracker is Bugzilla [4].
You can offer code via github [5]. We accept pull request there, to make
it simple for code contributors.

So have you already looked at the code? What do you think of the
architecture? What Ideology do you follow? Clean Architecture from Uncle
Bob?
Would you stick to C / C++ or rather move OpenOffice to Java or rust? or
what are your thoughts how should OpenOffice evolve?

All the Best
Peter
[0] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@openoffice.apache.org
[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Help+Wanted
[2] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Architecture
[3]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?projectKey=OPENOFFICE&rapidView=301
[4] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/
[5] https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pulls


On 03.09.19 15:37, Chris Vardy wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I am a contract solutions architect (aka freelancer) from the UK and I'm
> interested in contributing to OpenOffice.
>
> I have a background in software development in C, C++ etc. primarily on
> Windows and more recently Linux.  However development is no longer my main
> professional activity; architecture and design is.
>
> I work in the enterprise space i.e. on corporate business solutions and
> have worked for Microsoft, Cap Gemini, IBM.
>
> My drivers are twofold; firstly keeping up with my development skills and
> secondly giving back to the OSS community (I have been a user and advocate
> for many years now).
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Kind regards,
> Chris.
>

Re: joining the project

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello Ante,

We accept no applications. We accept activity. If you contribute you are
in, from the first contribution. A contribution improves OpenOffice in
any thinkable way.

You contribute by engaging the development. What development means is
that you improve OpenOffice in any way you think possible.

We accept any contribution that you do as long as we agree in the
technical benefit. We have no hierarchy, or leadership.

When we need something equal we vote as equals. And every one is heard
in the discussions or votes.

No one is going to tell you what you must do. We might help you to give
you advisories what you could do.

I try my best in this respect. But my understanding and knowledge is
only slowly growing.


So where to start.

We have a generic overview what volunteers could engage in, to have a
rough Idea at [0]

If you want to change OpenOffice code, first step is to build
OpenOffice. It is a beast on its own. [1]

We need to renew our Program documentation. I am working on it at [2]
when I find time to go on.

If you want to look at Issues to fix, you can browse Bugzilla [3] or
have a look at a try to cluster and  structure Issues [4].

We can always use help in testing, updating and research on issues.


If you have code change towards OpenOffice, small or big, whatever you
think worth, while please use GitHub to submit. [5]


With your submission you earn merit and we will grant you more access
for recognition and convenience.

Please be aware OpenOffice needs some endurance.


We communicate mostly over d...@openoffice.apache.org. You are welcome there.

You can use recruitment if you feel more save for some reason.

HTH

All the Best

Peter

[0] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Help+Wanted

[1]
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step

[2] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Architecture

[3]https://bz.apache.org/ooo/

[4]
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?projectKey=OPENOFFICE&rapidView=301

[5] https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pulls


On 19.09.19 16:30, Ante Lausic wrote:
> Dear Madam or Sir,
>
> I'm writing this e-mail because I would like to join your project.
>
> My name is Ante Laušić and I live in Zagreb, Croatia. I'm long time IT
> professional with the background in business intelligence/analytics. In my
> spare time I also code in C++, C# or Java - just to keep my little gray
> cells working and for fun :).
> More about my professional career you can find on my LinkedIn profile (
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ante-lausic-72997a34/)
>
> I would like to join the project because I believe I can contribute a lot.
> Also I think this would be great opportunity for me to polish my
> programming skills while helping develop great product.
>
> I hope that you'll find my application acceptable.
> I'm looking forward to hearing from you,
>

Re: New Subscription

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome,

Most communication is done on dev.
For technical writing you get access to our media wiki by sending an email to 
dev with your preferred login name and name.

And for web development ask also on dev. We do at the moment a migration of our 
web technology. Ask on d...@openoffice.apache.org what you could do. 

All the best
Peter

Am 7. Oktober 2019 20:35:55 MESZ schrieb Viktor Frankenstein 
:
>I would like to volunteer on the project to do technical writing and
>web development work.

Re: take me off that address

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello Claudia,

There is no responsible person. We are volunteers trying to help other 
interested people in developing OpenOffice. 

You must do this per self service.
Please send an email to recruitment-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org and 
follow the guide that get send to you. 

All the best
Peter

Am 8. Oktober 2019 13:54:07 MESZ schrieb claudia wiebe :
>Hi, I am not responsable in recruitment questions and help,
> please take me off that listing!
>
>Is that possible?? I have now asked several times!
>
>claudia wiebe
>
>Peter Kovacs  schrieb am Di., 8. Okt. 2019 06:42:
>
>> Welcome,
>>
>> Most communication is done on dev.
>> For technical writing you get access to our media wiki by sending an
>email
>> to dev with your preferred login name and name.
>>
>> And for web development ask also on dev. We do at the moment a
>migration
>> of our web technology. Ask on d...@openoffice.apache.org what you
>could
>> do.
>>
>> All the best
>> Peter
>>
>> Am 7. Oktober 2019 20:35:55 MESZ schrieb Viktor Frankenstein <
>> dr.frankenste...@outlook.com>:
>> >I would like to volunteer on the project to do technical writing and
>> >web development work.
>>

Re: New Dev Volunteer

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Maram Abbas,

I am sorry for the delayed answer.

I am not sure what you want to do. Do you want to create a template or
do you want to design an own Fileformat for research writing.

If you want to design a template I suggest to ask your questions on
u...@openoffice.apache.org and forum.openoffice.org .

If you want to develop an own fileformat then you should have your
questions asked on d...@openoffice.apache.org.


All The best

Peter


On 29.01.20 17:15, Maram Abbas wrote:
> Hello
>
> we are students at senior year
>
> baccalaureate of software engineering
>
> for our graduation project we are willing
>
> to develop more usable document that is specialist in research paper writing
>
> we choose open office as an environment to build in
>
> we hope we get your help to get started as soon as possible
>

Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome to OpenOffice.

A username for wiki Media can be gained by asking for the same on the 
dev Mailing List.


Do you have an Idea what needs to be done?


All the best

Peter

Am 20.02.20 um 07:04 schrieb Pulkit Krishna:

Hello,
I am Pulkit Krishna.
I want to help in Documentation of AOOO

Re: I want to join OpenOffice -- Samuel

[Peter Kovacs]

I hope you are aware that LibreOffice (LO) have little to do with Apache 
OpenOffice (AOO).


Working on LO will not develop AOO.

But it depends on what you want to do. It is your choice.

But think on more then just writing code. Think on how is a project 
organized, what License does the Project use, and what Licensebase it is 
build on.


How the Community is structured. And then pick a choice. I wish you good 
luck with whatever you do.



Am 17.03.20 um 16:52 schrieb , Samuel:

I will build libere office first.

Thanks~

Sr. Ziviani  於 2020年3月17日 週二 下午11:48寫道：


As I was reading on the website, the first thing you do is try to build
libere office. After that you look for a bug to correct. At these time
looking for some error to fix in a list.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/EasyHacks

Read at this page. I’m at the same moment like you.

Em ter, 17 de mar de 2020 às 12:35, , Samuel  escreveu:


Hi

I am using Ubuntu.

I would like to know how every contributor gets assignments since i am a
green hand in open source project .


Sr. Ziviani  於 2020年3月17日 週二 下午11:22寫道：


Hello! Witch system do you use? I’m at this moment building on Ubuntu

and

OS X. If you need some help, let me know.

Em ter, 17 de mar de 2020 às 12:16, , Samuel 

escreveu:

Hello,

I am Taiwanese and live in Taiwan.

I would like to contribute to OpenOffice.

My first language is Chinese, and I am also good at reading in

English.

I have five years experience on C&C++. Mostly I wrote C++ project on
embedded Linux environment.

This is the first time I join mail list so I don't know where to get
started.

Thanks

Samuel

Re: How to join Docs team

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello Pulkit Krishna,


Do you have a specific Idea what you want to do?

We could need Tutorials or the Manual in the Wiki updated to the latest 
version.



You get an Wiki account if you ask nicely on d...@openoffice.apache.org.

Please name your prefered login handle, when you ask for it. After that 
you are setup to contibute to our wiki.


Please, have patience, we all are free timers that work pro bono. So 
answers take a while.


The overall team is small so we usually use only @dev (mailinglist) 
these days.


I am not sure what the link provided states. Maybe the organisation 
behind it does not exist anymore.



All the Best

Peter

Am 26.03.20 um 14:07 schrieb Pulkit Krishna:

Hello,
I want to join the apache openoffice documentation team. Can anyone tell me
how to do so?
Pulkit Krishna

Re: introduction

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome to Apache OpenOffice,


How do you want to help?

We could use help with translations, Documentation, creating tutorials 
or youtube videos, building and testing, bugresearch or programming.


Different skills are needed for the topics. What sounds interesting to you?


All the best

Peter

Am 28.03.20 um 08:34 schrieb Juli Lunnas:

Hello,

I am from Finland and I would like to partisipate in helping better Open Office.

G. Juli Lunnas

Lähetetty Windows 10:n Sähköpostista

Re: VS: introduction

[Peter Kovacs]

We use mailing lists to organize our work. This are mail versions of forums.

So you usually subscribe to a List, and then you will receive all mails 
that are send to this list. As does eversone else. Try always to use a 
mailing list.



Translations, or localization, is organized on the  list 
l...@openoffice.apache.org <mailto:l...@openoffice.apache.org>.


I recommend you subscribe to that list, and send then a mail there. 
introducing yourself and ask for guidance that you want to help on 
translations.


Other people will pick you up.


You subscribe to a list by sending a mail to

l10n-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org 
<mailto:l10n-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org>


You will recieve a mail from our mailbot. Respond to this mail in order 
to subscribe as described in the manual that the mail contains.



if you want to dicontinue, you will need to unsubscribe. For that you 
send a mail to l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org 
<mailto:l10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org>.


The bot will answer you and you confirm with an answer mail.


I hope you got the basics around mailing list. If you have questions, or 
are unsure ask! :)



I wish you fun.


All the Best

Peter


Am 28.03.20 um 09:35 schrieb Juli Lunnas:


Hi,

I could start with translations.

g. Juli Lunnas

Lähetetty Windows 10:n Sähköposti 
<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>sta


*Lähettäjä: *Peter Kovacs <mailto:pe...@apache.org>
*Lähetetty: *lauantai 28. maaliskuuta 2020 10:31
*Vastaanottaja: *recruitment@openoffice.apache.org 
<mailto:recruitment@openoffice.apache.org>; julilun...@gmail.com 
<mailto:julilun...@gmail.com>

*Aihe: *Re: introduction

Welcome to Apache OpenOffice,

How do you want to help?

We could use help with translations, Documentation, creating tutorials

or youtube videos, building and testing, bugresearch or programming.

Different skills are needed for the topics. What sounds interesting to 
you?


All the best

Peter

Am 28.03.20 um 08:34 schrieb Juli Lunnas:

> Hello,

>

> I am from Finland and I would like to partisipate in helping better 
Open Office.


>

> G. Juli Lunnas

>

> Lähetetty Windows 10:n Sähköpostista

>

>

Re: Confirmation of Subscription to Recruitment Mailing List

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome to OpenOffice,


We are a volunteer organization. OpenOffice is developed mainly in the 
speed we are able to contribute.


OpenOffice is all sort of complex Application. Not only in development, 
also in translation, documentation, Web content.


We could use volunteer support in the topics

# development

# user documentation

# development documentation

# testing

# web migration

# youtube user tutorials

# tutorials

#translations of the UI and Help to a language.


Which area are you interested in? Please specify I try to help you to 
get started. However it is up to you how much and if there is any 
contribution. We have no stable structure to help, or train.



All the Best

Peter

Am 07.04.20 um 15:34 schrieb Kalpaj Agrawalla:

Hi there,

I am currently an undergraduate student, pursuing Computer Science from
Manipal University, India.

I have been using OpenOffice for a while now, and would love to contribute!

Its one of the best Office suit I have used for linux based OS's, and keep
coming back to it, post trying other suits.

Cheers to the team working on it.

Best,
Kalpaj

Re: Confirmation of Subscription to Recruitment Mailing List

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Pulkit Krishna,


How does this create an positive environment for LibreOffice or for 
Apache OpenOffice?


All that you did manage is to piss people off. Please, your are damaging 
not only your own renown, but you warm up old fights that has already 
caused a lot of hate.


Simon Phipps wants that old negative disputes are ended. This will not 
happen if people like you are leashing out in the way you did.


It would be a wise move to get your emotions in bay and think on the 
mine you stepped on. I can only recommend to apology. This will at least 
fix some damage you have created to yourself.



I wonder if your statements violate the LibreOffice code of conduct[1]?


All the Best

Peter

P.S.: I put the coc address of the TDF in cc, because it is very hard to 
let old reservations and negative feelings go, if people warm up the old 
statements. And LO should be aware that words matter, and the attitude 
of LO fans affect their own renown.


AOO and LO must fight this attitude shown by Pulkit Krishna together. I 
do hope we (AOO) are not alone in this. I want to work together with LO 
not against them, but my commitment will stay with OpenOffice, no matter 
what.



[1] https://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/code-of-conduct/

Am 09.04.20 um 16:04 schrieb Pulkit Krishna:

Oh wow! 5 releases in 5 years! Nice Records!

Now see libreoffice records:-
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan

14 releases in 2016
16 releases  in 2017
16 releases in 2018
15 releases in 2019
5 releases in 2020 till now
Total - 66 release since 2016.

The number of releases openoffice has done in 5 years, libreoffice has done
in 3 months (2020 records).

Doing 5 minor release in 5 years is not something which a software would be
proud of!
Pulkit Krishna


On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 7:22 PM Marcus  wrote:


Please have a look for yourself that there were releases since 2015 [1]
and [2].

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Releases
[2] https://www.openoffice.org/download/

Marcus



Am 09.04.20 um 15:44 schrieb Pulkit Krishna:

Then explain me why there hasn't been a openoffice release since 2015?

If a

software does not update it for 5 years, do not provide documentation for
its current version, the what is it called if not dead?
Pulkit Krishna


On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 7:03 PM Marcus  wrote:


You are spreading fud information.

OpenOffice is not dead. Traffic on the mailing lists, changed code and
an increasing download rate shows a different side.

And the other office suite is not the successor of OpenOffice.
Regardless if they tell or write you this. Because there is no
successor. Both are existing side by side.

So, if you don't want to participate in this project, that's fine. But
stop spreading wrong information. Go elsewhere to do your advertisement.

Thanks

Marcus



Am 09.04.20 um 15:10 schrieb Pulkit Krishna:

OpenOffice is dead. Consider using and contributing to LibreOffice, the
successor of OpenOffice.
Check these websites.
https://t.co/87uxygkK7B?amp=1
https://whatcanidoforlibreoffice.org/
https://www.libreoffice.org/community/get-involved/
libreoffice.org

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 5:47 PM Dr Lagunarajan Thangarajah <
laguna.tha...@gmail.com> wrote:


Interested in:
# development
# development documentation
#translations of the UI and Help to a language.

Please help me and point me in the right direction

Thanks
Laguna

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 2:53 AM Peter Kovacs  wrote:


Welcome to OpenOffice,


We are a volunteer organization. OpenOffice is developed mainly in

the

speed we are able to contribute.

OpenOffice is all sort of complex Application. Not only in

development,

also in translation, documentation, Web content.

We could use volunteer support in the topics

# development

# user documentation

# development documentation

# testing

# web migration

# youtube user tutorials

# tutorials

#translations of the UI and Help to a language.


Which area are you interested in? Please specify I try to help you to
get started. However it is up to you how much and if there is any
contribution. We have no stable structure to help, or train.


All the Best

Peter

Am 07.04.20 um 15:34 schrieb Kalpaj Agrawalla:

Hi there,

I am currently an undergraduate student, pursuing Computer Science

from

Manipal University, India.

I have been using OpenOffice for a while now, and would love to

contribute!

Its one of the best Office suit I have used for linux based OS's,

and

keep

coming back to it, post trying other suits.

Cheers to the team working on it.

Re: Confirmation of Subscription to Recruitment Mailing List

[Peter Kovacs]

Good!

Am 09.04.20 um 17:10 schrieb Pulkit Krishna:

I have already apolosised and woul do so once again

Pulkit Krishna

On 9 Apr 2020 8:22 p.m., "Peter Kovacs"  wrote:

Hi Pulkit Krishna,


How does this create an positive environment for LibreOffice or for Apache
OpenOffice?

All that you did manage is to piss people off. Please, your are damaging
not only your own renown, but you warm up old fights that has already
caused a lot of hate.

Simon Phipps wants that old negative disputes are ended. This will not
happen if people like you are leashing out in the way you did.

It would be a wise move to get your emotions in bay and think on the mine
you stepped on. I can only recommend to apology. This will at least fix
some damage you have created to yourself.


I wonder if your statements violate the LibreOffice code of conduct[1]?


All the Best

Peter

P.S.: I put the coc address of the TDF in cc, because it is very hard to
let old reservations and negative feelings go, if people warm up the old
statements. And LO should be aware that words matter, and the attitude of
LO fans affect their own renown.

AOO and LO must fight this attitude shown by Pulkit Krishna together. I do
hope we (AOO) are not alone in this. I want to work together with LO not
against them, but my commitment will stay with OpenOffice, no matter what.


[1] https://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/code-of-conduct/


Am 09.04.20 um 16:04 schrieb Pulkit Krishna:


Oh wow! 5 releases in 5 years! Nice Records!


Now see libreoffice records:-
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan

14 releases in 2016
16 releases  in 2017
16 releases in 2018
15 releases in 2019
5 releases in 2020 till now
Total - 66 release since 2016.

The number of releases openoffice has done in 5 years, libreoffice has done
in 3 months (2020 records).

Doing 5 minor release in 5 years is not something which a software would be
proud of!
Pulkit Krishna


On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 7:22 PM Marcus  wrote:

Please have a look for yourself that there were releases since 2015 [1]

and [2].

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Releases
[2] https://www.openoffice.org/download/

Marcus



Am 09.04.20 um 15:44 schrieb Pulkit Krishna:


Then explain me why there hasn't been a openoffice release since 2015?


If a


software does not update it for 5 years, do not provide documentation for
its current version, the what is it called if not dead?
Pulkit Krishna


On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 7:03 PM Marcus  wrote:

You are spreading fud information.

OpenOffice is not dead. Traffic on the mailing lists, changed code and
an increasing download rate shows a different side.

And the other office suite is not the successor of OpenOffice.
Regardless if they tell or write you this. Because there is no
successor. Both are existing side by side.

So, if you don't want to participate in this project, that's fine. But
stop spreading wrong information. Go elsewhere to do your advertisement.

Thanks

Marcus



Am 09.04.20 um 15:10 schrieb Pulkit Krishna:


OpenOffice is dead. Consider using and contributing to LibreOffice, the
successor of OpenOffice.
Check these websites.
https://t.co/87uxygkK7B?amp=1
https://whatcanidoforlibreoffice.org/
https://www.libreoffice.org/community/get-involved/
libreoffice.org

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 5:47 PM Dr Lagunarajan Thangarajah <
laguna.tha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Interested in:

# development
# development documentation
#translations of the UI and Help to a language.

Please help me and point me in the right direction

Thanks
Laguna

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 2:53 AM Peter Kovacs  wrote:

Welcome to OpenOffice,


We are a volunteer organization. OpenOffice is developed mainly in


the

speed we are able to contribute.

OpenOffice is all sort of complex Application. Not only in


development,

also in translation, documentation, Web content.

We could use volunteer support in the topics

# development

# user documentation

# development documentation

# testing

# web migration

# youtube user tutorials

# tutorials

#translations of the UI and Help to a language.


Which area are you interested in? Please specify I try to help you to
get started. However it is up to you how much and if there is any
contribution. We have no stable structure to help, or train.


All the Best

Peter

Am 07.04.20 um 15:34 schrieb Kalpaj Agrawalla:


Hi there,

I am currently an undergraduate student, pursuing Computer Science


from

Manipal University, India.

I have been using OpenOffice for a while now, and would love to


contribute!


Its one of the best Office suit I have used for linux based OS's,


and

keep

coming back to it, post trying other suits.

Cheers to the team working on it.

Re: Confirmation of Subscription to Recruitment Mailing List

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello Laguna,


Okay, if you still interested to volunteer I try to give some guidance.


#Development

Development is still tricky. Best is to learn our build environment.

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

And there you are in the middle on our first documentary project. Any 
Feedback and improvement is welcome.


Code receval I do recommend to use github: 
https://github.com/apache/openoffice


If you need help just ask.

#Development Documentation

For that you need a wiki account.

Just write a request for account to the d...@openoffice.apache.org. We 
need a proposed login name and an email address.


you get send a password. Please check Spam.


I started a documentation attempt on Code internals here:

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Architecture

The section Software documentation is my start. I hope to add stuff 
there soon. If you have better Ideas I am open.


I have tried to use doxygen. But that is difficult to use.


# Translations

We have a total separated web based translation process. The translation 
team can explain and enable you.


You reach them on the list l...@openoffice.apache.org


If you have Questions please ask.

All the Best

Peter


Am 09.04.20 um 14:17 schrieb Dr Lagunarajan Thangarajah:

Interested in:
# development
# development documentation
#translations of the UI and Help to a language.

Please help me and point me in the right direction

Thanks
Laguna

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 2:53 AM Peter Kovacs  wrote:


Welcome to OpenOffice,


We are a volunteer organization. OpenOffice is developed mainly in the
speed we are able to contribute.

OpenOffice is all sort of complex Application. Not only in development,
also in translation, documentation, Web content.

We could use volunteer support in the topics

# development

# user documentation

# development documentation

# testing

# web migration

# youtube user tutorials

# tutorials

#translations of the UI and Help to a language.


Which area are you interested in? Please specify I try to help you to
get started. However it is up to you how much and if there is any
contribution. We have no stable structure to help, or train.


All the Best

Peter

Am 07.04.20 um 15:34 schrieb Kalpaj Agrawalla:

Hi there,

I am currently an undergraduate student, pursuing Computer Science from
Manipal University, India.

I have been using OpenOffice for a while now, and would love to

contribute!

Its one of the best Office suit I have used for linux based OS's, and

keep

coming back to it, post trying other suits.

Cheers to the team working on it.

Best,
Kalpaj

Re: Confirmation of Subscription to Recruitment Mailing List

[Peter Kovacs]

Ubuntu 16.04 and 18.04 should be fine.

I guess in general newest Distribution version may be more difficult to 
build then older distributions.



I would also recommend not using Distribution libraries in the first 
attempt. I would use in the first step our non distribution specific setup.



Am 10.04.20 um 14:33 schrieb Earl Rex Arao-arao:


What's the best distro to build open office? I'm fired up when someone
telling other people that open office is "dead"

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 9:35 PM Kalpaj Agrawalla <
kalpaj.agrawall...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi there,

I am currently an undergraduate student, pursuing Computer Science from
Manipal University, India.

I have been using OpenOffice for a while now, and would love to contribute!

Its one of the best Office suit I have used for linux based OS's, and keep
coming back to it, post trying other suits.

Cheers to the team working on it.

Best,
Kalpaj

Re: Help Volunteer

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome Irina to Apache OpenOffice,


This is a lot todos for one person. :-)

In general I would recommend to subscribe to d...@openoffice.apache.org 
for starters. We route almost all information there.


For a quick start you could join the trc freenode.net channel 
#openoffice.org-de, and we guide you deeper into the maze ;)


We can talk to you what there is to do. (The channel is german)

Maybe better then using slow email list.



All the best

Peter



Am 06.05.20 um 17:02 schrieb Ira Irina:

Hallo OpenOffice,

I would like to contribute to your open source projects.
Yes, I have some expertise with C++ programming and
I am proficient in English, German, Russian.

I would like to propose you my help as a volunteer in the following topics:
1) Work on bug reports and try to reproduce them
2) Write new or improve existing documentation and about technical topics
3) Test the program and report problems
4) Code new features
5) Design artwork and other marketing materials
6) Translate the UI and help topics to different languages
7) Maintain the website and develop new materials
8) Promote OpenOffice and help explain its benefits

Best Regards,
Irina

Re: Help Volunteer

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello Irina,


sorry my answer has been sent somehow to another Email address and the 
List. I just figured because I missed a reaction.


You want to become active in a lot of different activity. I suggest we 
meet in freenode.net IRC Chat and talk on details.



we have a German channel there,  which is easier for me to communicate 
and currently my preference for a complex discussion.


#openoffice.org-de

there we can talk on all stuff In know. And look into next steps. I try 
now chat because the email attempts of the past did not work out into 
new contributors.


If anyone else is interesting, just speak up we have multiple other 
channels to use.



All the Best

Peter


Am 06.05.20 um 17:02 schrieb Ira Irina:

Hallo OpenOffice,

I would like to contribute to your open source projects.
Yes, I have some expertise with C++ programming and
I am proficient in English, German, Russian.

I would like to propose you my help as a volunteer in the following topics:
1) Work on bug reports and try to reproduce them
2) Write new or improve existing documentation and about technical topics
3) Test the program and report problems
4) Code new features
5) Design artwork and other marketing materials
6) Translate the UI and help topics to different languages
7) Maintain the website and develop new materials
8) Promote OpenOffice and help explain its benefits

Best Regards,
Irina

Re: Student Volunteering

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello Jyotirmoy,


you have reached out to the Apache OpenOffice project.


Apache OpenOffice is a very complex project, with very little support.

As much as I would like to give you something to do, i do not have 
anything encapsulated and prepared that can be done in a 2 week chunk 
with 2h a day.


I am sorry. The truce to be told, we have nothing prepared, and we 
currently ask people to prepare themselves what they want to do. This 
project can only support if you get stuck somewhere.


There is lots of work to do before we can think of such an offer. That 
again is one of the reasons why the project has so little support.


The lowest barrier we have is translation from English to whatever 
language, maybe we could interest you in this? what is your mother 
tough? I check then for the support in that language.


.


All the Best

Peter

Am 13.05.20 um 08:11 schrieb Jyotirmoy Singh:

Hello there,
I am a student currently in my final year of high school, I have been
learning Python and have some basic coding knowledge, I am proficient in
English and would like to help Apache, I can help out Apache for 2 weeks
maybe 2 hours per week as this is my crucial year but I want to help Apache
as well as my resume.
Thank you

Re: Contribute to Apache Open Office documentation

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Jennifer,

you are on the recruitment@ List with the email address 
recruitment@openoffice.apache.org


Everyone who is subscribed recives Mails addressed to the list.

The dev@ List is similar:

d...@openoffice.apache.org


To subscribe you need to tell the bot that you want to subscribe:

dev-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org 



If you have it and you do not want to read mails from the dev list you 
can unsubscribe by sending an email to:


dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org 




You do not need to be subscribed in order to participate. You could also 
read the archives:


https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@openoffice.apache.org


In general, which List we have is described on the mailing list page

https://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#development-mailing-list-public

However we do not use the lists. Translations are discussed on L10N 
@, user support on user@ 
and everything else is discussed on dev.


(There is one exception: that is dev-de, which is a German list. Because 
we have a traditional strong german community, and we talk sometimes in 
german for the difficult topics. :) a summary should be sent at least, 
and the list does not make any decisions.)


If it is easy for you we have a slack channel on ASF we can invite you 
to. It is irregular used. But you get an overview on code changes.


And we have old IRC Chat channels on freenode.net which Mechtilde, 
Matthias and I use more to talk, as a short lifeline to boost fun. No 
decisions are made there either.


You are welcome to join if you like.


All the Best

Peter


Am 21.05.20 um 02:01 schrieb Jennifer:

Hello Carl,

I saw this go by and am fairly certain I didn't know how to do this when I
first signed up to volunteer.

How do I do the following / where do I find this?
"dev@ mailing list"

Thanks so much, Carl!

- Jennifer / 312.498.6255


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Hello Harshita,

Welcome !!

If you haven't yet, please request your wiki account on the dev@ mailing
list and maybe what you're interested in working on.

Best regards,
Carl

On 5/15/20 3:40 PM, Harshita Krishnachandran wrote:

Hi,

I am a technical writer by profession and I would like to volunteer and

contribute to the documentation set.

Please create a wiki account for:
Username: hashkc23
Email: harshit...@gmail.com

Thank you.

Regards,
Harshita K

Re: Contribute to Apache Open Office documentation

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi,


If you want to code on OpenOffice, I recommend that you start small with 
trying to compile OpenOffice on your machine:


Check the How To.

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO


https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step


If you have Questions keep asking! ;) And dont get discouraged. It is a 
long standing Project with long history.


All the best

Peter


Am 21.05.20 um 23:25 schrieb ASP An Aryan Sinha Presentation:

Hey there myself Aryan Sinha! I'm a 17 Year Old Guy Who Knows to Code and
Implement Several Codes! I wanna contribute to OpenOffice Community & Its
Software Development . How can i Join that?

On Thu, 21 May 2020, 12:27 pm Peter Kovacs,  wrote:


Hi Jennifer,

you are on the recruitment@ List with the email address
recruitment@openoffice.apache.org

Everyone who is subscribed recives Mails addressed to the list.

The dev@ List is similar:

d...@openoffice.apache.org


To subscribe you need to tell the bot that you want to subscribe:

dev-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org
<mailto:dev-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org>

If you have it and you do not want to read mails from the dev list you
can unsubscribe by sending an email to:

dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
<mailto:dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org>


You do not need to be subscribed in order to participate. You could also
read the archives:

https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@openoffice.apache.org


In general, which List we have is described on the mailing list page


https://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#development-mailing-list-public

However we do not use the lists. Translations are discussed on L10N
<mailto:l10n-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org>@, user support on user@
and everything else is discussed on dev.

(There is one exception: that is dev-de, which is a German list. Because
we have a traditional strong german community, and we talk sometimes in
german for the difficult topics. :) a summary should be sent at least,
and the list does not make any decisions.)

If it is easy for you we have a slack channel on ASF we can invite you
to. It is irregular used. But you get an overview on code changes.

And we have old IRC Chat channels on freenode.net which Mechtilde,
Matthias and I use more to talk, as a short lifeline to boost fun. No
decisions are made there either.

You are welcome to join if you like.


All the Best

Peter


Am 21.05.20 um 02:01 schrieb Jennifer:

Hello Carl,

I saw this go by and am fairly certain I didn't know how to do this when

I

first signed up to volunteer.

How do I do the following / where do I find this?
"dev@ mailing list"

Thanks so much, Carl!

- Jennifer / 312.498.6255


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Hello Harshita,

Welcome !!

If you haven't yet, please request your wiki account on the dev@

mailing

list and maybe what you're interested in working on.

Best regards,
Carl

On 5/15/20 3:40 PM, Harshita Krishnachandran wrote:

Hi,

I am a technical writer by profession and I would like to volunteer and

contribute to the documentation set.

Please create a wiki account for:
Username: hashkc23
Email: harshit...@gmail.com

Thank you.

Regards,
Harshita K

Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome Iran Kashtan to OpenOffice,


So how do you want to contribute to OpenOffice?


all the best

Peter


Am 04.06.20 um 10:29 schrieb idan kashtan:

Hey,
My name is Idan, and I'm from Israel.
I've just graduated with a bachelor's degree in computer science, and I'd
like to contribute to Apache OpenOffice.
Thanks,
Iran Kashtan.

Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

[Peter Kovacs]

I have not been very good at introducing interested people to 
OpenOffice, so that they stick with it. So take my apologies, if this is 
another fail attempt.


But lets go with another try. Hopefully it helps not only Idan Kashtan, 
but also every other interested volunteer that likes to contribute and 
is subscribed to this list.



So first of all we see everyone who wants to develop OpenOffice as 
equal. There is no Hierarchy whatsoever.


We function by meritocracy standards. You earn renown by doing competent 
actions. Not having competence is not negative. So you do not loose 
anything by asking and building competence, because building competence 
is a competent action.


I like to summarize this setup as meritocratic anarchic organization.

Our vision is to improve OpenOffice. Nothing more nothing less.


So first: Basic Infrastructure. The ASF uses the quite archaic tech of 
Email Mailing lists. We use it because they have proven their worth over 
a long period of time.


https://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html

Our main communication channel is d...@openoffice.apache.org. All 
important discussions are made on the dev mailing list.


We have also freenode channel: #dev.openoffice.org and a slack channel 
for faster communication. I have to check what to do to provide slack 
invites. AFAIK there are no restrictions if anyone of you have interest.



So first step in learning to code with OpenOffice is imho learning to 
build OpenOffice.


For building OpenOffice I recommend our guide:

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO#Step-by-Step_Building_Guide_for_Different_Platforms

The Operating systems matter:

OS2 I think is the most difficult followed by Windows, then comes MacOSx 
and the easiest I think is Linux. FreeBSD should be also quite easy to 
build.


Please take that into account if you run into issues.


Of course you can start your own way into AOO, the code is available on 
Github and you can create pull request any time as you like. We will 
review as soon as possible.


https://github.com/apache/openoffice


What to do on the code can be figured on Bugzilla: 
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/


But I usually do not know where to start so I have created a Task list 
on Jira 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/OPENOFFICE/issues/OPENOFFICE-76?filter=allopenissues


current activities are reflected here: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Improvement



If there are questions ask them. There are no bad questions. OpenOffice 
contributing to AOO is a challenge due to age and history of the 
project. We help as much as we can.



all the best

Peter


Am 05.06.20 um 08:59 schrieb idan kashtan:

Hey, thanks :)

I'd like to contribute by fixing bugs and adding new features.
I mainly interested in coding, so whatever you need me to do 
that includes coding :).


Thanks,
Idan Kashtan.

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On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 6:50 AM Peter Kovacs <mailto:pe...@apache.org>> wrote:


Welcome Iran Kashtan to OpenOffice,


So how do you want to contribute to OpenOffice?


all the best

Peter


Am 04.06.20 um 10:29 schrieb idan kashtan:
> Hey,
> My name is Idan, and I'm from Israel.
> I've just graduated with a bachelor's degree in computer
science, and I'd
> like to contribute to Apache OpenOffice.
> Thanks,
> Iran Kashtan.
>

Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

[Peter Kovacs]

Hey,

Awesome!


There is no obligation to announce what you work on.

But I think it is nice to see what people work on, and sometimes I get 
further feedback if I start talking about it.


Please note that we ideally we write testcases, too. Test driven 
approach and stuff.


So that could be a thing that can pop up at some point.


Have Fun

Peter


Am 07.06.20 um 13:23 schrieb idan kashtan:

Hey,
thank you :)
So now I subscribe to the dev mailing list and figured out how to build
OpenOffice on my computer.
If I want to work on a bug or a new feature, I suppose to go to
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/OPENOFFICE/issues/OPENOFFICE-76?filter=allopenissues
see what's open and just work on it? or do I need to comment there/send an
email to d...@openoffice.apache.org?

Thank you,
Idan Kashtan.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 10:44 AM Peter Kovacs  wrote:


I have not been very good at introducing interested people to OpenOffice,
so that they stick with it. So take my apologies, if this is another fail
attempt.

But lets go with another try. Hopefully it helps not only Idan Kashtan,
but also every other interested volunteer that likes to contribute and is
subscribed to this list.


So first of all we see everyone who wants to develop OpenOffice as equal.
There is no Hierarchy whatsoever.

We function by meritocracy standards. You earn renown by doing competent
actions. Not having competence is not negative. So you do not loose
anything by asking and building competence, because building competence is
a competent action.

I like to summarize this setup as meritocratic anarchic organization.

Our vision is to improve OpenOffice. Nothing more nothing less.


So first: Basic Infrastructure. The ASF uses the quite archaic tech of
Email Mailing lists. We use it because they have proven their worth over a
long period of time.

https://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html

Our main communication channel is d...@openoffice.apache.org. All
important discussions are made on the dev mailing list.

We have also freenode channel: #dev.openoffice.org and a slack channel
for faster communication. I have to check what to do to provide slack
invites. AFAIK there are no restrictions if anyone of you have interest.


So first step in learning to code with OpenOffice is imho learning to
build OpenOffice.

For building OpenOffice I recommend our guide:

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO


https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO#Step-by-Step_Building_Guide_for_Different_Platforms

The Operating systems matter:

OS2 I think is the most difficult followed by Windows, then comes MacOSx
and the easiest I think is Linux. FreeBSD should be also quite easy to
build.

Please take that into account if you run into issues.


Of course you can start your own way into AOO, the code is available on
Github and you can create pull request any time as you like. We will review
as soon as possible.

https://github.com/apache/openoffice


What to do on the code can be figured on Bugzilla:
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/

But I usually do not know where to start so I have created a Task list on
Jira
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/OPENOFFICE/issues/OPENOFFICE-76?filter=allopenissues

current activities are reflected here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Improvement


If there are questions ask them. There are no bad questions. OpenOffice
contributing to AOO is a challenge due to age and history of the project.
We help as much as we can.


all the best

Peter


Am 05.06.20 um 08:59 schrieb idan kashtan:

Hey, thanks :)

I'd like to contribute by fixing bugs and adding new features.
I mainly interested in coding, so whatever you need me to do that includes
coding :).

Thanks,
Idan Kashtan.


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On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 6:50 AM Peter Kovacs  wrote:


Welcome Iran Kashtan to OpenOffice,


So how do you want to contribute to OpenOffice?


all the best

Peter


Am 04.06.20 um 10:29 schrieb idan kashtan:

Hey,
My name is Idan, and I'm from Israel.
I've just graduated with a bachelor's degree in computer science, and

I'd

like to contribute to Apache OpenOffice.
Thanks,
Iran Kashtan.

Re: Archives, newbie questions...

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Dave,

1)

I am not so much interested in cross builds. I think we have enough issues

without makeing new ones. But I know that others have looked into cross 
building.



For a release this is not important. We will always build a release for 
a plattform on the platform.


3) Hmm, I do not know if it smart to give all pointers at once. I did it 
to give an overview.


The drawback is always you overwhelm people. I would prefer to have a 
conversation.


But feedback is so spare. So I hammer out the information I have, and 
move on.



2) The goal of this recruitment list is to enable you. The project has 
decided that we do things without hierarchy.


There is no boss, no real lead. We both are equal in the sense that our 
opinion can be heared.


My experience this is difficult for a lot of people. Me included. We all 
are tought that someone gives commands.


Work on a first. Read source b. and so on.


So we created this list to do better recruiting. Since you must jump to 
a level we want. Think and command yourself. This is harder then one 
might think.



So ideally all informations should come together on 
d...@openoffice.apache.org. This is our main list. All important 
communication is done there.


Even documentation is discussed there. To be correct I should give a 
short notice on the dev List, about this conversation. But for that we 
are mostly to lazy.



HTH

Peter


Am 24.06.20 um 19:31 schrieb Dave Scotese:

When I joined this list, I looked at the archives, but probably not back
far enough, and so it wasn't until the recent answer from Peter that I got
motivated.  His message from June 5th was very helpful.

I hope these questions help others as I expect them to help me:

1. When we build on our own OS, does the process create executables for
other Operating Systems? This is important if building on one OS is harder
than building on another, as Peter suggested (and I believe) because some
of us will build on the easy OS with the hope that we can make a change
that we can use on our favored OS which might be different.
2. Is this "Recruitment list" the best place for questions like these?
3. Is it possible for the mailing list software to include a link to the
archives in a little helpful message in each email to suggest that further
info might be available there?

My guesses about the answers:

1. I'd guess that if you want the executable for your OS using your code
changes, you have to build it on your OS, and that cross-platform builds
are complicated and fraught with difficulties.
2. The page at  https://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html does
not list a better alternative, but some questions do belong on other lists.
If yours does and you send it here, you can count on someone helpful to
point you to a better list... eventually.
3. It's possible, but it invites lazier people, so we choose not to
provide it.

Dave.

Re: I would like to contribute

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Dave,

nice repost. Thanks.

Please if you need help with the building environment do not hesitate to 
ask on development.


After the successfull build I recommend to start looking at the build 
output, and start on the messages there.


Just ask or talk if you get stuck  If you want to try SCONs look at the 
branch SCONs and ask on dev for guidance.



All the Best

Peter

Am 17.09.20 um 07:42 schrieb Dave Scotese:

Hi Sachar, the following is a message someone else (Peter) sent which may
be helpful:

Hi,


If you want to code on OpenOffice, I recommend that you start small with
trying to compile OpenOffice on your machine:
Check the How To.
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step
If you have Questions keep asking! ;) And dont get discouraged. It is a
long standing Project with long history.
All the best
Peter

You can view other emails to people interested in working on the project

for more clues about how to proceed by examining the archives at
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?recruitment@openoffice.apache.org:2020-5

Thanks!
Dave Scotese

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 12:24 AM Shachar Arieli 
wrote:


Hi,
My name is Shachar. I am from Israel.
I am an experienced c++ developer and would like to contribute to the
project.

Re: Maintainer for the Kurdish language

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome Sima Ahmadi,

I have added the l10 Mailing list. I recommend you subscribe to this list.

If you have subscribed to the list state your prefered User name and ask 
for an account.


here is an example.

https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rc827c87df875ccc476f08eefb507672a7601bd41b451d0f596c5f740%40%3Cl10n.openoffice.apache.org%3E


For the Surani Dialect of Kurdish, I am not sure how we handle this. I 
would like to ask how we may handle that. I hope I will read of you more 
often.


If you have questions we are happy to answer them.


All the best

Peter


Am 02.11.20 um 05:28 schrieb Sina Ahmadi:

Hi,

I have recently developed a spell checker for the Sorani dialect of Kurdish 
using the Hunspell spell-checker. I would like to add this spell checker to 
OpenOffice so that it can be publicly used.




Moreover, given that help is needed regarding the Kurdish language 
(https://www.openoffice.org/projects/native-lang.html), I will be happy to get 
involved in OpenOffice and maintain the Kurdish language. I reckon a new page 
will be required for the Sorani language, as the current page is quite 
well-established for the Kurmanji dialect of Kurdish.

Best regards,
Sina Ahmadi

Re: [massimo.carbone]: Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome Massimo

Am 06.11.20 um 19:59 schrieb massimo carbone:

Who are you?
I'm Massimo Carbone, CRBMSM76P06E472U. I'm a little business man.
Graduated at "La Sapienza University located in Rome, Italy, Solar System,
Via Lattea" :)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/massimo-carbone-3248793/

where are you from?
I born in Latina, very close to Rome

what are you interested in?
I'm a simple programmer (i prefer php or java ), developer, scrum  master,
someone told me I'm genius, but I prefer You call me masenstein (it's my
nickname on various social network)

These are all good things to cover. Also, as you work through the items on
this page, if you have questions or problems, please feel free to ask for
help by sending a note to this list.

What's the next step I need to follow in order to help Us?


I think best is to do some action. We enable you as we can go along. Dev 
Channel in general is the main communication channel, and the only 
channel we do desicions.


We have slack and IRC channels for community talk, but except for the 
german ones we do not use them often. Still people are accessible in the 
channels. I can give pointers if you want.


Code development can be driven completely through github, so I think if 
you have a github account you are setup.


And we can handle everything there. Further access we can grant if needed.

Topic:

# We do recommend to start with building OpenOffice and check the 
buildguides if they work for you. [1]


If you have improvements request an account on the wiki and go for your 
changes.


# Java skills: we have the Idea to switch from our own OOXML integration 
to Apache POI. If you are interested, look into it.


I can post the link if you are interested.

That is my list of next steps. We are not a big fan of command 
structures. This is free time engagement after all, and not a job.


So please bear with us and keep in touch.


p/s: I use apache common and now openoffice.


Great :-)

Re: Starting Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello, what can we do for you?

Am 08.11.20 um 10:09 schrieb Heather Poole:

Hello

Re: Introducing myself

[Peter Kovacs]

+1 :-)

On 08.12.20 16:35, Keith N. McKenna wrote:

Comments in-line

On 2020-12-08 at 9:20, Arrigo Marchiori  wrote:

Dear Recruitment list,

my name is Arrigo Marchiori. I have given very small contributions to
the OpenOffice code in the past, in the form of bug reports and
patches. At the moment, there are three open pull requests I proposed
on GitHub.

Greetings Arrigo and welcome to Apache OpenOffice (AOO). You have already
taken the major step in that you were able to build AOO, initiate the pr's,
and subscribed to dev@.

Lately, I have been trying to invest more of my free time into this
project, as I see quite some room for improvement and I would like to
help shape this great program, that I use for my daily work.


As an all volunteer project we appreciate and depend on people like yourself
that are willing to give of there free time to contribute in any way that they
can.


I am already subscribed to the dev@ mailing list. Today I found the
"Orientation" section of the web site and... here is my first step,
introducing myself on this list.

I am not a rockstar, neither a programming genius. My computing skills
include C, C++ and Python, that I use at work on PC and on embedded
systems.


You do not need to be any of those things to contribute. An integral of the
"Apache Way" is the emphasis on community over code that allows people to
contribute in the way that they are most comfortable with. Your C and C++
skills are valuable as most of our code is in C++ but also uses some C
constructs.


I have experience of Linux (Ubuntu, openSUSE) and FreeBSD systems. I
can work under Microsoft Windows but it is not my platform of choice.

My native language is Italian. I hope my English is... acceptable.

Many in the AOO community are not native English speakers so that is not a
problem at all. Your English is far superior than what I could attempt at
Italian.


Being blessed by a family and a daily job, I can only offer my free
time to this project, and even not 100% of it. But if you will be
willing to accept my contribution, I will be honored to help.


We are all volunteers and give of what time we have to the project. Only you
can know how much of that valuable free time that you can give and we
appreciate that you are willing to give some of it to advance AOO

Regards
Keith N. McKenna


Regards,
--
Arrigo Marchiori (rigo)

http://rigo.altervista.org

Re: Introducing myself

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome hrishabh joshi,

On 08.12.20 16:56, hrishabh joshi wrote:

I am a recent graduate & would like to contribute my bid as well. I am
working & would like to contribute in my free time for the great
initiative.

Please advise me so I can contribute better for this cause.


My advice is:

1) use your comunication skill - If you get stuck somewhere, ask a 
question. Participate in discussions. An answer can bring you 
understanding to participation or throw up an important situation.


2) be curious - try things out you are interested in, or you feel 
important. You will learn always something.


3) divide your goal in smaller goals - I found that a lot of things we 
need to do, involve a lot of other stuff you do not see on first sight. 
You have a greater feeling of accomplishment.


4) have endurance - The task we have are not trivial, and sometimes the 
goal seems overwhelming of the path is not visible at all. We need to be 
flexible and try a bit around. (don't forget 1)


5) We are one - Always remember that the AOO Project does see everyone 
as equal volunteer. You are not less worth because you are graduate. You 
have your skill and spirit that you bring to the project, and we respect 
it. Bring that respect back to us. We draw our strength from this.


6) Action is valued - We honor action. If you achive some task you set 
to complete it will be recognized. If this has value for the Project you 
gain merit.


This is the Way! ;) [1]


I assume you want to code?

# Build Apache OpenOffice

# test some open PR pull request - If you can try write a testcase

# try to look into issues

# Try to document code

# Do whatever you think is worth your time


All the Best

Peter

[1] http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html

How to unsubscribe from this list (self Service)

[Peter Kovacs]

To /unsubscribe/ from the mailing list, so you stop receiving all posts 
to the mailing list, send an e-mail to 
/xyz/-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org. You will then receive a 
confirmation e-mail. Once you respond to the confirmation e-mail you are 
unsubscribed.


Unsubscribe: recruitment-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org 



There is no other way.


All the Best

Peter

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Re: Introducing myself

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome Wang Shiqiang!


OpenOffice is a volunteer community. You know best when and how to help. 
Even little contributions are valued. After all it is all that keeps 
this project alive.


Maybe you could help with the Chinese translation?

https://translate.apache.org/zh_CN/aoo40/

It is over a year since someone worked on the translation.

We can also use Help in coding, testing of new versions, and documentation.


Please, specify what you want to do, then I can give you pointers how 
you can enable yourself.



Zh?? y??qi?? sh??nl??

Peter


On 13.12.20 02:58,  wrote:

Dear Recruitment list,


my name is Wang Shiqiang.


I am not a rockstar, neither a programming genius. My computing skills include 
C, C++ and Python, that I use at work on PC and on embedded systems.


I have experience of Linux (Ubuntu, openSUSE??Centos) and FreeBSD systems. 


My native language is Chinese. I hope my English is acceptable.Being blessed by 
a family and a daily job, I can only offer my freetime to this project, and 
even not 100% of it. But if you will be willing to accept my contribution, I 
will be honored to help.

--
This is the Way! http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html

Re: Introducing myself

[Peter Kovacs]

sry forgot to add the address.

On 16.12.20 16:00, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Welcome Wang Shiqiang!


OpenOffice is a volunteer community. You know best when and how to 
help. Even little contributions are valued. After all it is all that 
keeps this project alive.


Maybe you could help with the Chinese translation?

https://translate.apache.org/zh_CN/aoo40/

It is over a year since someone worked on the translation.

We can also use Help in coding, testing of new versions, and 
documentation.



Please, specify what you want to do, then I can give you pointers how 
you can enable yourself.



Zh?? y??qi?? sh??nl??

Peter


On 13.12.20 02:58,  wrote:

Dear Recruitment list,


my name is Wang Shiqiang.


I am not a rockstar, neither a programming genius. My computing 
skills include C, C++ and Python, that I use at work on PC and on 
embedded systems.



I have experience of Linux (Ubuntu, openSUSE??Centos) and FreeBSD 
systems. 



My native language is Chinese. I hope my English is acceptable.Being 
blessed by a family and a daily job, I can only offer my freetime to 
this project, and even not 100% of it. But if you will be willing to 
accept my contribution, I will be honored to help.

--
This is the Way! http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html

Re: I'd like to help.

[Peter Kovacs]

Carl, Peter was not on CC :)

I would like to add that the code is on github. If reading is not so 
your thing, we can talk or you can start and try getting started.


Just ask what you want to know.

All the best

Peter

On 16.12.20 00:02, Carl Marcum wrote:

Hi Peter,

On 12/14/20 4:07 PM, Peter Condor wrote:

Hello,

I have experience coding, mostly in C and Lisp, not so much in C++.

If you're full up with coders, I wouldn't mind helping with the 
documentation, but I've been using (if a lot) only basic features of 
OpenOffice. My first language is GB English.


Regards,

Peter

Welcome!  No we're definitely not full of coders.

All contribution types are appreciated.

Have you reviewed the get-involved [1] and orientation page [2] yet?

[1] https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html
[2] https://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/index.html

Thanks,
Carl

--
This is the Way! http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html

Re: I'd like to help.

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Noel,


I am confused by the Apache reference. Apache is only a Platform that 
hosts Projects and enables volunteer with whatever technical 
Infrastructure a projects needs.


There are over 350 Projects. I am not sure how many are currently in the 
incubator,  which means that they are new.


If you mean OpenOffice, we could use people that go through Bugzilla and 
check if the Open Bugs are still valid. Maybe if there is skill write 
automated tests.


We could use a documentation on automated tests and there is also an old 
list of manual test that could be looked into. Maybe there is more a 
volunteer could do.


And of course we will soon start a new release I hope.


I hope that helps you to give you some orientation.

All the best

Peter

On 16.12.20 19:30, Noel Shantell wrote:

It seems like OpenOffice has been around for a while.  Does Apache have new
applications that need to be tested.

Noel S. Prude
Software Tester
850.266.8294

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, Carl Marcum  wrote:


Hi Peter,

On 12/14/20 4:07 PM, Peter Condor wrote:


Hello,

I have experience coding, mostly in C and Lisp, not so much in C++.

If you're full up with coders, I wouldn't mind helping with the
documentation, but I've been using (if a lot) only basic features of
OpenOffice. My first language is GB English.

Regards,

Peter


Welcome!  No we're definitely not full of coders.

All contribution types are appreciated.

Have you reviewed the get-involved [1] and orientation page [2] yet?

[1] https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html
[2] https://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/index.html

Thanks,
Carl


--
This is the Way! http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html

Re: I'd like to help.

[Peter Kovacs]

Hy Dylan,

On 16.12.20 20:56, Dylan Pham wrote:

Hello Peter,
I'm a DevOps engr associate.  Does the Apache platform (or OpenOffice
project or any other project on the Apache platform) need/want some DevOps
volunteer work? Or if possible, can you please point me to where I need to
reach out to regarding this? Thank you.


I can speak only for OpenOffice. We do not think in roles.

We have only volunteers. And each volunteer tries to bring the project 
forward with his skills and experience.


I am not sure what to recommend someone with DevOps skill, that would 
interest him in doing.


If I were you and looking for something that impresses at the next job 
application, I would join a Project that is


creating a tool I will likely use. I am sorry, that I can not be of 
further assistance. I have no clue what a DevOps engineer knows.


I am a Data Engineer ;) However if you believe in OpenOffice you are 
welcome to look into our code on Github and checkout what you would change.


And we will process the input. With time you will build trust and get 
more access and can influence the project more.



All the Best

Peter



Dylan

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 11:41 AM Peter Kovacs  wrote:


Hi Noel,


I am confused by the Apache reference. Apache is only a Platform that
hosts Projects and enables volunteer with whatever technical
Infrastructure a projects needs.

There are over 350 Projects. I am not sure how many are currently in the
incubator,  which means that they are new.

If you mean OpenOffice, we could use people that go through Bugzilla and
check if the Open Bugs are still valid. Maybe if there is skill write
automated tests.

We could use a documentation on automated tests and there is also an old
list of manual test that could be looked into. Maybe there is more a
volunteer could do.

And of course we will soon start a new release I hope.


I hope that helps you to give you some orientation.

All the best

Peter

On 16.12.20 19:30, Noel Shantell wrote:

It seems like OpenOffice has been around for a while.  Does Apache have

new

applications that need to be tested.

Noel S. Prude
Software Tester
850.266.8294

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020, Carl Marcum  wrote:


Hi Peter,

On 12/14/20 4:07 PM, Peter Condor wrote:


Hello,

I have experience coding, mostly in C and Lisp, not so much in C++.

If you're full up with coders, I wouldn't mind helping with the
documentation, but I've been using (if a lot) only basic features of
OpenOffice. My first language is GB English.

Regards,

Peter


Welcome!  No we're definitely not full of coders.

All contribution types are appreciated.

Have you reviewed the get-involved [1] and orientation page [2] yet?

[1] https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html
[2] https://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/index.html

Thanks,
Carl


--
This is the Way! http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html


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