Updated ISO image for RH 6.1 available ?

1999-12-24 Thread Benno Senoner

Hi,

does anyone know if there is an updated ISO image of RH 6.1 available ?

I think many of us have the same problem:

for already running  boxes it's ok to install the bugfixes, but when installing
new ones, it's a big waste of time to install the ton of bugfixes everytime.

Is there an updated ISO image available somewhere ?
(third parties included).

Or alternatively it would be nice to have some
"giant-fix" against RH 6.1:

a big rpm , or a collection of all the rpms in the update dir 
in a single tar file with a simple  "install" script which upgrades 
all the rpms in the right order.

This would save a LOT of headaches for many people.

Benno.
 

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monitor

1999-12-24 Thread Robert Cobb


I have been having trouble installing Red Hat 6.0 on my computer. The
problem seems to be one of two things. First I have a high frequency
monitor. At 800X600 it runs at 105 HZ. I could bump the resolution up but
that would make everything real small. It is a CTX, model  VL 950 S. I know
that there has to be some way that it can be done.
The second is the video card but I really doubt it. I have an ATI
All-in-Wonder Pro 128 AGP2. I have tried putting a different card in but I
still did not get a good picture.

Any subjections would be helpful.
Robert Cobb




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Re: Updated ISO image for RH 6.1 available ?

1999-12-24 Thread kevin

Benno Senoner wrote:


 This would save a LOT of headaches for many people.


I have an updated redhat with all the updates but it is not
for public distribution as I have changed some other things
also. Namely removed sendmail and inserted qmail, included
gnofin nmap knmap and some other tools. Some of the games
had to be removed to fit it all in but

While this is still a "redhat" OS it is not a redhat distribution.
What is RedHats position on this sort of thing.
Can this be distributed or would there be legal problems?
I could make an updated iso available. If not I suppose I
could simply create a RedHat iso with the updates supplied
by redhat. Then I would need somewhere to use as a ftp
as the demand would be greater than my humble connection
could cope with
creating your iso is also simple and there is a HOW-TO or
mini HOW-TO somewhere. All you need is  a cd-r and
some HDD space.

I am working now on incorportating the 2.4 kernel which is now
at 2.3.34 devel but gives me some sort of guide.

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Re: Updated ISO image for RH 6.1 available ?

1999-12-24 Thread Benno Senoner

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Benno Senoner wrote:
 

  This would save a LOT of headaches for many people.
 
 While this is still a "redhat" OS it is not a redhat distribution.
 What is RedHats position on this sort of thing.
 Can this be distributed or would there be legal problems?
 I could make an updated iso available. If not I suppose I
 could simply create a RedHat iso with the updates supplied
 by redhat. Then I would need somewhere to use as a ftp
 as the demand would be greater than my humble connection
 could cope with
 creating your iso is also simple and there is a HOW-TO or
 mini HOW-TO somewhere. All you need is  a cd-r and
 some HDD space.

Redhat itself should provide this updated ISO image,

and would save them headaches too, since a user which downloads the RH 6.1 ISO
image now (assume that it would be updated with the latest fixes) will not
complain about 2-3 months old security flaws.

It should be Redhat's responsibility to provide the up-to-date distribution in
ISO format, in order to mantain linux's reutation as a "secure operating
system".

So agian my wishes for Redhat are:

-provide an updated ISO every  week or so 
- or provide a "giant-fix"  with the latest update.


Any official response from the Redhat people ?
Is there any reason why this has not been implemented ?

Benno.






 
 I am working now on incorportating the 2.4 kernel which is now
 at 2.3.34 devel but gives me some sort of guide.
 
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Re: monitor

1999-12-24 Thread Nils Philippsen

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, Robert Cobb wrote:

 
 I have been having trouble installing Red Hat 6.0 on my computer. The
 problem seems to be one of two things. First I have a high frequency
 monitor. At 800X600 it runs at 105 HZ. I could bump the resolution up but
 that would make everything real small. It is a CTX, model  VL 950 S. I know
 that there has to be some way that it can be done.
 The second is the video card but I really doubt it. I have an ATI
 All-in-Wonder Pro 128 AGP2. I have tried putting a different card in but I
 still did not get a good picture.

You don't specify the exact nature of your problem, e.g. is the screen all
black, doesn't the monitor manage to synchronize the video signal, is the
picture blurred?

Without describing the problem exactly people don't have a chance to solve
it.

Nils
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Re: root password requests in 6.1

1999-12-24 Thread Nils Philippsen

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, John Summerfield wrote:

  I have recently upgraded some machines to RH 6.1 and have noticed an
  alarming tendency for dialog boxes to appear saying please type the
  root password.
  
  This really is not acceptable. Any old trojan horse program can do this
  and get the password. It may be designed to make things easier for
  new users, but they need to understand about su/logging in as root.
  
  I have come across it on kppp (amazingly, even if you make it suid root!)
  which does not need to run as root (eg as in 6.0) and gnorpm (which means
  you get this just by inserting a RH CD in gnome).
 
 I've been seeing this when I login and the dialogue box doesn't even 
 indicate what's asking!!
 
 Coupled with a few other things, it's almost enough to make me remove 
 gnome (I I tend to use kde more anyway).

To clarify things, this is a Red Hat'ism (forgive the wording) -- i.e. Red
Hat Linux 6.1 has wrapped some programs that need to be run as root
through consolehelper, regardless if they're console, KDE or GNOME
programs. It's just coincidence that the wrapper is a gtk/gnome program.

BTW: If something bugs you about GNOME, why don't you complain? I grepped
through my archives of gnome-list and gnome-devel-list and couldn't find a
single post by you. Even developers can't read minds.

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Re: root password requests in 6.1

1999-12-24 Thread Justin Cormack

 
 On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, John Summerfield wrote:
 
   I have recently upgraded some machines to RH 6.1 and have noticed an
   alarming tendency for dialog boxes to appear saying please type the
   root password.
   
   This really is not acceptable. Any old trojan horse program can do this
   and get the password. It may be designed to make things easier for
   new users, but they need to understand about su/logging in as root.
   
   I have come across it on kppp (amazingly, even if you make it suid root!)
   which does not need to run as root (eg as in 6.0) and gnorpm (which means
   you get this just by inserting a RH CD in gnome).
  
  I've been seeing this when I login and the dialogue box doesn't even 
  indicate what's asking!!
  
  Coupled with a few other things, it's almost enough to make me remove 
  gnome (I I tend to use kde more anyway).
 
 To clarify things, this is a Red Hat'ism (forgive the wording) -- i.e. Red
 Hat Linux 6.1 has wrapped some programs that need to be run as root
 through consolehelper, regardless if they're console, KDE or GNOME
 programs. It's just coincidence that the wrapper is a gtk/gnome program.

Well I am inclined to report this as a bug with major security implications.

As far as I can see it is only acceptable to be asked for a root password
if you have explicitly requested root access (eg su or login). Adding a
graphical way of requesting root access (eg a program called [gxk]root say
that simply produced a menu of programs that would then be run as root)
could be acceptable, but producing unrequested root password requests
is not acceptable, indeed is a major security problem.

Justin

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Re: root password requests in 6.1

1999-12-24 Thread Justin Cormack

 
 On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, Justin Cormack wrote:
 
  I have recently upgraded some machines to RH 6.1 and have noticed an
  alarming tendency for dialog boxes to appear saying please type the
  root password.
 
  This really is not acceptable. Any old trojan horse program can do this
  and get the password. It may be designed to make things easier for
  new users, but they need to understand about su/logging in as root.
 
 If there is a trojan in your path you've been compromised already.  You
 would need to be breached to get the trojan in your path in the first
 place.  Even if you didn't, blocking a single way for a malicious program
 to burn you doesn't stop the other n ways.  The value of n is very
 large...

That does not make it the right way to do things. 90%+ of users of a Linux
system will normally not know the root password anyway (or indeed the system
may use kerberos or sudo so root passwords should be unnecessary). Asking
for a root password just because you have inserted a RH disk in the CD
drive is simply wrong, against any sensible way of teaching new users about
security.

And you wouldnt need security to be breached to have a Trojan: a naive user
could install any old program (Word for Linux say...) which just happened 
to ask for the password and would not realise why the program should or should
not need the password.

Justin

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Re: root password requests in 6.1

1999-12-24 Thread Greg Wright



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On 24/12/99 at 15:30 Justin Cormack wrote:


Well I am inclined to report this as a bug with major security
implications.

As far as I can see it is only acceptable to be asked for a root password
if you have explicitly requested root access (eg su or login). Adding a
graphical way of requesting root access (eg a program called [gxk]root say
that simply produced a menu of programs that would then be run as root)
could be acceptable, but producing unrequested root password requests
is not acceptable, indeed is a major security problem.

Justin

Maybe I am missing something

Any OS can have things that are meant to be run as an eqv to root, but will
prompt for passwd if the requestors level is not high enough

a bug maybe.but a security problem, how so ?


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Re: Delivery problems with your mail : vger.rutgers.edu

1999-12-24 Thread Uncle George

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Anyone know ?
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Re: Updated ISO image for RH 6.1 available ?

1999-12-24 Thread JF Martinez

 
 On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Benno Senoner wrote:
  
 
   This would save a LOT of headaches for many people.
  
  While this is still a "redhat" OS it is not a redhat distribution.
  What is RedHats position on this sort of thing.
  Can this be distributed or would there be legal problems?
  I could make an updated iso available. If not I suppose I
  could simply create a RedHat iso with the updates supplied
  by redhat. Then I would need somewhere to use as a ftp
  as the demand would be greater than my humble connection
  could cope with
  creating your iso is also simple and there is a HOW-TO or
  mini HOW-TO somewhere. All you need is  a cd-r and
  some HDD space.
 
 Redhat itself should provide this updated ISO image,
 
 and would save them headaches too, since a user which downloads the RH 6.1 ISO
 image now (assume that it would be updated with the latest fixes) will not
 complain about 2-3 months old security flaws.
 
 It should be Redhat's responsibility to provide the up-to-date distribution in
 ISO format, in order to mantain linux's reutation as a "secure operating
 system".
 
 So agian my wishes for Redhat are:
 
 -provide an updated ISO every  week or so 
 - or provide a "giant-fix"  with the latest update.
 
 
 Any official response from the Redhat people ?
 Is there any reason why this has not been implemented ?
 
 Benno.
 
 

I am not a RedHat employee so I think I can speak freely here and I
will translate a french expression: You want the butter, the money of
the butter and in addition the woman selling it

You ask RedHat to spend resources (ie $$$) in provinding for free a
far better product than the boxed version.  This is _far_ more than
what is demanded by GPL.

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Re: Delivery problems with your mail : vger.rutgers.edu

1999-12-24 Thread Andrew E. Mileski

Uncle George wrote:
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 which i tried to report a scsi ( aic7xxx ) spin-up problem.
 I'd like to participate - if there is a discussion - but cannot find instructions or 
any one on their web .
 
 Anyone know ?
 gat

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RE: monitor

1999-12-24 Thread Robert Cobb

Currently I am unable to run any X-Server. I just recently returned to the
US and my Linux Box which has Red Hat 5.2 installed on it is still in
Germany. I have a new computer here that I built and I picked-up a
distribution of  Red Hat 6.0 and 6.5 Mandrake. I have been trying to
convince the DOIM "Department of Information Management" that we should stop
spending Money on MS crap. But, if I can't even get it on my own system
without changing the hardware then it is going to be a tough battle.
Robert Cobb
Computer Specialist
Unites States Military Academy


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Sent:   Friday, December 24, 1999 12:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: monitor



On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, Robert Cobb wrote:


 I have been having trouble installing Red Hat 6.0 on my computer. The
 problem seems to be one of two things. First I have a high frequency
 monitor. At 800X600 it runs at 105 HZ. I could bump the resolution up but
 that would make everything real small. It is a CTX, model  VL 950 S. I
know
 that there has to be some way that it can be done.

I have a CTX monitor that works fine. Not sure on the model right now its
at home. Try setting it up with Xconfigurator under custom monitor.

 The second is the video card but I really doubt it. I have an ATI
 All-in-Wonder Pro 128 AGP2.

I have the ATI Xpert 128 if your card is similar to this its not
supported, I switched to an ATI RageIIc works great.  Which X server are
you using?

I have tried putting a different card in but I
 still did not get a good picture.

 Any subjections would be helpful.
 Robert Cobb




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RE: monitor

1999-12-24 Thread Robert Cobb

During installation one muse specify which monitor and video card. Since my
monitor is not listed in the hardware I tried the custom settings first.
When it goes to check the configuration the screen is black and no picture
what so ever. I have tried all the CTX monitors none of which worked.

Robert Cobb
Computer Specialist
Unites States Military Academy


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To: Robert Cobb
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; recipient list not shown: ;
Subject:Re: monitor

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, Robert Cobb wrote:


 I have been having trouble installing Red Hat 6.0 on my computer. The
 problem seems to be one of two things. First I have a high frequency
 monitor. At 800X600 it runs at 105 HZ. I could bump the resolution up but
 that would make everything real small. It is a CTX, model  VL 950 S. I
know
 that there has to be some way that it can be done.
 The second is the video card but I really doubt it. I have an ATI
 All-in-Wonder Pro 128 AGP2. I have tried putting a different card in but I
 still did not get a good picture.

You don't specify the exact nature of your problem, e.g. is the screen all
black, doesn't the monitor manage to synchronize the video signal, is the
picture blurred?

Without describing the problem exactly people don't have a chance to solve
it.

Nils
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Re: root password requests in 6.1

1999-12-24 Thread Stanislav Meduna

Hello,

 As far as I can see it is only acceptable to be asked for a root password
 if you have explicitly requested root access (eg su or login). Adding a
 graphical way of requesting root access (eg a program called [gxk]root say
 that simply produced a menu of programs that would then be run as root)
 could be acceptable, but producing unrequested root password requests
 is not acceptable, indeed is a major security problem.

I second this opinion. Such behaviour violates the principle
of least necessary privileges and it teaches the users bad habits.

If you want to do it this way, please, at least don't ask
for the _root_ password. There is not a slightest need
for a password unlocking everything, when the userhelper
itself is setuid root. Define another password unlocking
the way to the controlled services and define a way
(configurable by a real root) to control who can do what.

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Re: Tar questions

1999-12-24 Thread rpjday


On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, cajun wrote:

 Is it possible to direct a tar file to extract to a certain directory ?

i'm not sure i'd recommend doing this, but gnu tar has the
"-P" or "--absolute-paths" option that will leave leading
slashes on the filenames in the archive to guarantee that
the restore is done to that absolute location.  is that what
you were looking for?  just be warned that this removes the
flexibility of restoring anywhere else.  you're better off
cd'ing to the appropriate location first before running
the restore.

 How can dotfiles be included in a tar ?
 
 (yes, I've looked at the man page but haven't been able to figure it out)

the easy way is to archive by directory name if you can.
if you want to archive your home directory, first cd there, then

$ tar cvf /dev/fd0 .

the period refers to a *directory*, and this automatically picks
up everything inside the directory, including hidden files.
if you want to get hidden files specifically, try the wildcard
pattern ".[!.]*".  but if you can, just use the directory way
of doing it, it's way easier.

rday



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Re: bus error / racing? / SMP

1999-12-24 Thread Gustav Schaffter

Edward,

I'm running two instances of setiathome on a 2*550PIII system with
kernel 2.2.12-20smp. I also extensively use NetScape and I've had no
problems like what you describe.

Are you sure you run the latest version of NetScape? I'm running 4.7-1,
which can be found at the RedHat site.

Regards
Gustav

Edward Schernau wrote:
 
 On my new system (SMP), I've twice now had Netscape running in X, the
 RC5 client running on a tty, and suddenly the disk will start thrashing,
 and the system will totally bog down.
 
 Last time, all the Netscape windows disappeared one by one, and then it
 was fine.  This time, I had to Alt-SysRq-S the thing to emergency sync
 (since I figured I'd have to shut it off).  It then paused briefly,
 dropped me out of X, and then I got a message on tty1 that the RC5
 client died with a "bus error".
 
 So I'm wondering if there are any SMP gotchas, or bugs people have had
 with the RC5 crypto client and its "SMP-awareness".
 
 System:
 RH6, 2.2.13 kernel using kernel.org tarball
 2x550 MHz Celeron
 HPT366 ATA-66 HDC
 64 MB PC-100 RAM
 
 Thanks in advance for any lucid ideas.  Incidentally, can anyone give
 me a reference benchmark for keys/sec that a 550 Celeron should compute?
 
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Re: /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit

1999-12-24 Thread Agustin Navarro

On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, bob jones wrote:

Thanks in advance:

Does the /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit script always get run on bootup? I'm
running (sorry, I like it, it's running on an old machine, and I'm
afraid to upgrade ..) RHL4.2, so maybe the filename might be a little
different in later versions of RHL.

It seems to me that this script is not being run on boot on my system.
This
conclusion is based on the failure of diagnostic "echo" commands I have
put
into the script to write either to the console or, with redirection, to
a file that I could use as a check ... Maybe I don't understand whether
such commands
*should* be able to write to the console or to a file during boot, in
which case I need a better way to check. Any ideas that would help?

This question is important to me because the system in question is not
any longer running fsck during boot as it should under some
circumstances (this I have posted earlier and have not as yet been able
to resolve). I'm keying on
the logical commands WRT "/fastboot" in the rc.sysinit file to help me
understand my problem, because those commands control whether fsck gets
run. If I remove the command in the rc.sysinit that deletes the
/fastboot file, I still don't find it in the / directory. Hence I'm
messing around to try to understand what is going on with
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit.

Thanks again,

bob jones  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])




I have RHL 6.0 so there may be some diferences but in 6.0:

1. The /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit has to run every time on bootup.

2. If I "touch /forcefsck", I get an fsck on next bootup when I should not.

3. If I "touch /fastboot", then fsck doesn't run when it should.

What I would do is:

a. Double check that fsck is in the path. The path gets set at the top of
rc.sysinit

b. Use "tune2fs -l /dev/??? to check Maximun-mount-count and Check-interval.

c. Set in /etc/sysconfig/init LOGLEVEL=7 and BOOTUP=verbose.

d. In /etc/inittab change the line that has:

   1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mimgetty tty1

by the following:

   1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mimgetty --noclear tty1

This way you will keep all the bootup messages and you can scroll back with
shift+page_up and shift+page_down. 


HTH

Agustin

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AMD K6-III @ 450MHZ

1999-12-24 Thread lloy0076


Hi There!

I have recently installed an MS-5184 Baby AT VI4 Motherboard with an AMD
K6-III running at 450MHZ. I used to run an AMD K6-II @ 366MHZ with an
old, 66MHZ board. The memory is exactly the same. Some people said I
would notice a difference; some said I wouldn't. My experiences so far
are:

* StarOffice actually looks like it's doing something and reacts
straight away
* Netscape loads almost at the click of a button
* X runs significantly faster
* The GIMP loads significantly faster

In my opinion the upgrade has been worth it. Besides, I now have two
relatively fast machines. The older KG II @ 366MHZ was certainly quite
fast and I still have it; just gotta get round to installing it into a
case somewhere. The only glitch is that it killed my Windows (again). 

Because some of the I/O port addresses are different, Windows is asking
this and asking that and asking this and askng that. I will eventually
get around to installing the stupid thing

DAVID

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Anyone with Progress knowledge?

1999-12-24 Thread Zoki

If somebody with knowledge of keyboard shortcuts concerning the function
keys (F1 to F12) with Progress could be so kind to mail them to me? I was
able to find out that F1 = Ctrl+X and F4 = Ctrl+E. Now I just need the
rest. ;-)

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RH 6.1: setting up Epson Stylus Color 600 and sound

1999-12-24 Thread D. Pierce-Price

Hello,

I've just installed RedHat 6.1 on my father's Dell box, going for a
standard Gnome Workstation installation. However, I can't get the sound
card or printer to work. I believe the soundcard is integrated,
unfortunately. The manual which came with the computer just says "Dell
Integrated Audio User's Guide, Technology from Creative Technology's Sound
Blaster". Win 95 reports it as a Creative Sound Blaster 16 Plug and Play.
However, it doesn't seem to show up when I use sndconfig in Linux. Can
anyone help?

He also has an Epson Stylus Color 600, connected to the parallel port.
RedHat didn't seem to set this up when I installed it, and the printtool
doesn't detect anything on any of /dev/lp0 lp1 or lp2. As root, I've tried
doing lptest  /dev/lp0 but I get a "No such device" error. There are
'files' called lp0, lp1, and lp2 in /dev, though. Again, can anyone
advise?

Many thanks to you all,

Douglas

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X on the Toshiba 4000CDT

1999-12-24 Thread Brad Williamson

Hi,

I am trying to configure X to work on a Toshiba 4000CDT (which has a CT6
chip).  If someone is using such a configuration, can you please send a copy
to me?

Thanks,
Brad Williamson.


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Re: AMD K6-III @ 450MHZ

1999-12-24 Thread Manuel Camacho

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, lloy0076 wrote:
 In my opinion the upgrade has been worth it. Besides, I now have two
 relatively fast machines. The older KG II @ 366MHZ was certainly quite
 fast and I still have it; just gotta get round to installing it into a
 case somewhere. The only glitch is that it killed my Windows (again). 

Well, I have a case right here in my room where it would feel perfectly ;)

Have a Merry X-mas, David!

P.D.: Thanks for all your help


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Re: Finding a file

1999-12-24 Thread Manuel Camacho

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, K Old wrote:
 I have used 'find', 'locate', and 'grep' to try to find it.

Hi Kevin!

Have you tried upgrading the locate database? It is updated automatically...
at about 3:00 am. If you do not have your system on at that time, it just wont
update.

On 5.2 you can run updatedb as root. On 6.0 and later you can use locate -u.
Run them in the background so you can keep up working meanwhile.

Then try locating it again.

-Manuel.


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Re: RH 6.1: setting up Epson Stylus Color 600 and sound

1999-12-24 Thread Rick Knebel

At 11:55 AM 12/24/99 +, you wrote:
Hello,

I've just installed RedHat 6.1 on my father's Dell box, going for a
standard Gnome Workstation installation. However, I can't get the sound
card or printer to work. I believe the soundcard is integrated,
unfortunately. The manual which came with the computer just says "Dell
Integrated Audio User's Guide, Technology from Creative Technology's Sound
Blaster". Win 95 reports it as a Creative Sound Blaster 16 Plug and Play.
However, it doesn't seem to show up when I use sndconfig in Linux. Can
anyone help?

He also has an Epson Stylus Color 600, connected to the parallel port.
RedHat didn't seem to set this up when I installed it, and the printtool
doesn't detect anything on any of /dev/lp0 lp1 or lp2. As root, I've tried
doing lptest  /dev/lp0 but I get a "No such device" error. There are
'files' called lp0, lp1, and lp2 in /dev, though. Again, can anyone
advise?


Look under Tech support on Redhat's page.
There is a category called RedHat 6.1 Gotcha's or something like that.
There is a fix form that problem there.

Rick





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The Memory-HOWTO

1999-12-24 Thread Kevin Hemenway

When Linux Documentation goes to far...

 http://dolinux.org/docs/memory.html


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Linux FTP Servers Slower than IIS4?

1999-12-24 Thread WH Bouterse

Well for my Christmas eve message;

I would like to ask the experienced IT
folks out there what do you think of this 
statement made by one of the FTP Server sites
I use regularly .

"Our site has been up for
months at a time with out ever being rebooted,..
We use IIS4 because it is arguably one of the
fastest FTP servers out there."

Is This in fact true or basically the "party line"
because most of the employees of this company are
MSIE trained kind of individuals with very little
Linux literacy. They do claim one of their Senior Admins,
" an experienced UNIX administrator of 13 years"
said this.

Not meaning to start a "holy war" this time of 
year, but was curious?

William Bouterse
Juneau Alaska


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proc_ide_write_settings(: parse error

1999-12-24 Thread Hanigan Family

hi all,

when i type
echo max_kb_per_request:32  /proc/ide/hdb/settings

i get

proc_ide_write_settings(: parse error

this work fine on my other machine. what am i doing wrong?

thanks linda


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Re: Linux FTP Servers Slower than IIS4?

1999-12-24 Thread M. Erickson

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, WH Bouterse wrote:

 "Our site has been up for
 months at a time with out ever being rebooted,..
 We use IIS4 because it is arguably one of the
 fastest FTP servers out there."

I don't have a lot of experience, but running a FTP site for my
apartment-intranet, FTP speeds jumped from about 1-1.5Mb/s to over 3 when
I switched from NT4 Server SP6 w/ IIS to Linux. 

For the simple reason that Linux has less overhead and a better TCP/IP
stack, I'd be willing to wager that NT is not faster under equal
circumstances.

/me


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Re: can a mounted iso9660 image file really be RW?

1999-12-24 Thread Igmar Palsenberg


 I'm scared to try writing to it in case the image gets messed up before I burn it.
 
 If I try writing to it to update a few packages, will the image file be in good
 shape for making a CD?

Yes.. I do it on a regular bases...

 
 Thanks
 


Igmar


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Re:RE: [OT] History of the mouse

1999-12-24 Thread cwagner

Yes, QuarterDeck was the manufacturer of DeskView.  I have the original version.
 Man, those were the days!  :)


Cary R. Wagner
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Cranel, Inc.
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Subject:RE: [OT] History of the mouse 
Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   12/23/99 7:57 PM

 The original software was developed 1983ish and was called Deskview under
 one
 of it's incarnations.  Deskview was licensed to a number of other
 companies
 for "tweaking" improvements, and resold... I used to own (still do, if I
 could
 find the disk) a copy of Deskview by Indian Head Software, but I'm pretty
 sure
 that was a tweaked version.  I think Deskview was owned at one time by
 Symantec.

 Windows Version 1.0 was nearly identical in performance and abilities with
 Deskview
 ie., it was pretty primitive.  It did allow for multitasking for the first
 time
 on an x86 architecture, though.  Windows 2.0 was superior to Deskview so
 clearly
 that Deskview faded from the picture, and was all but gone by 1989.  In
 return,
 of course, Windows 2.0 was supplanted in 1990 by Windows 3.0, a much more
 usable
 (no snickering) interface and system.  The rest everyone knows, I'm sure.

This isn't the same as QuarterDeck's DesqView, is it? I used it long before
Windows 3.0 came out, multi-tasking DOS apps. Worked great on a 386-25.

-- Juha



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Re: can a mounted iso9660 image file really be RW?

1999-12-24 Thread Philippe Moutarlier

Igmar Palsenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I'm scared to try writing to it in case the image gets messed up before I burn it.
  
  If I try writing to it to update a few packages, will the image file be in good
  shape for making a CD?
 
 Yes.. I do it on a regular bases...


So do I but could replacing base redhat packages confuse the installer ? I am far from 
sure about this.

 It would nice if someone could tell  if the installer is looking for specific 
revisions of the packages or if upgrading prior to install is OK. 

Philippe

  
  Thanks
  
 
 
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png format and netscape

1999-12-24 Thread patrick

I thought netscape had the inherent ability to
"see" png images.  Apparently it doesn't because
I cannot view png images.  What app or plugin do
I need to make netscape 4.7 be able to display 
png files?

patrick


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RE: Tar questions

1999-12-24 Thread cajun

Thanks Vidiot, Hossein, and rday.

Interesting that tar will get the dotfiles in the subdirectories, but not
the current directory.

Thanks for all of the pointers.

Merry Xmas !
Mike

[snip]

On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, cajun wrote:

 Is it possible to direct a tar file to extract to a certain directory ?

i'm not sure i'd recommend doing this, but gnu tar has the
"-P" or "--absolute-paths" option that will leave leading
slashes on the filenames in the archive to guarantee that
the restore is done to that absolute location.  is that what
you were looking for?  just be warned that this removes the
flexibility of restoring anywhere else.  you're better off
cd'ing to the appropriate location first before running
the restore.

 How can dotfiles be included in a tar ?

 (yes, I've looked at the man page but haven't been able to figure it out)

the easy way is to archive by directory name if you can.
if you want to archive your home directory, first cd there, then

$ tar cvf /dev/fd0 .

the period refers to a *directory*, and this automatically picks
up everything inside the directory, including hidden files.
if you want to get hidden files specifically, try the wildcard
pattern ".[!.]*".  but if you can, just use the directory way
of doing it, it's way easier.

rday



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Re: can a mounted iso9660 image file really be RW?

1999-12-24 Thread Igmar Palsenberg


 Igmar Palsenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   I'm scared to try writing to it in case the image gets messed up before I burn 
it.
   
   If I try writing to it to update a few packages, will the image file be in good
   shape for making a CD?
  
  Yes.. I do it on a regular bases...
 
 
 So do I but could replacing base redhat packages confuse the installer ? I am far 
from sure about this.
 
  It would nice if someone could tell  if the installer is looking for specific 
revisions of the packages or if upgrading prior to install is OK. 

You need to rebuild the packages DB... The program that does this is on
the CD. I can look it up for you if you want to...


 
 Philippe
k


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RE: can a mounted iso9660 image file really be RW?

1999-12-24 Thread cajun


The program you're looking for is /misc/src/anaconda/utils/genhdlist.

The file that should get updated is /RedHat/base/hdlist.

HTH.
Mike

[snip]

 Igmar Palsenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   I'm scared to try writing to it in case the image gets messed up
before I burn it.
  
   If I try writing to it to update a few packages, will the image file
be in good
   shape for making a CD?
 
  Yes.. I do it on a regular bases...
 

 So do I but could replacing base redhat packages confuse the installer ? I
am far from sure about this.

  It would nice if someone could tell  if the installer is looking for
specific revisions of the packages or if upgrading prior to install is OK.

You need to rebuild the packages DB... The program that does this is on
the CD. I can look it up for you if you want to...

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Re: Finding a file

1999-12-24 Thread Andy Thomas

I can't get slocate to run.  Is it in a seperate "package" from locate?

TIA
Andy


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 Subject: Re: Finding a file
 Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 10:27 PM
 
 locate should find it unless it's name has been changed. How are you
using
 locate and what file? If it is a new file locate will not find till your
 machine  runs /usr/bin/slocate which is done via cron I believe nightly.
You
 can run slocate yourself to get your machine to update it's file
locations.
 
 Eddie Strohmier
 Bonwell Globalnet
 www.bonwell.com
 
 
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 From: K Old [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 1:14 AM
 Subject: Finding a file
 
 
  Hello,
 
  I am trying to find a file that is somewhere on my system, but I can't
 seem
  to find it.
 
  I have used 'find', 'locate', and 'grep' to try to find it.
 
  Can someone tell me how to simply find a file in any directory on my
 system?
 
  Thanks,
  Kevin
 
 
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Re: Finding a file

1999-12-24 Thread Charles Galpin

no,

[root@pooh majordomo]# which slocate
/usr/bin/slocate
[root@pooh majordomo]# rpm -qf `which slocate`
slocate-2.0-3
[root@pooh majordomo]# rpm -qf `which locate`
slocate-2.0-3

hth
charles

On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Andy Thomas wrote:

 I can't get slocate to run.  Is it in a seperate "package" from locate?
 
 TIA
 Andy


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RE: RH 6.1: setting up Epson Stylus Color 600 and sound

1999-12-24 Thread D. Pierce-Price

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, Larry Mintz wrote:

 2. Add this to /etc/conf.modules
alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc

Thanks to everyone for their help!

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pump using significant CPU

1999-12-24 Thread patrick

I don't understand this.  I am running RH 6.1 and
have pump-0.7.2-2 installed.  I have been running
setiathome for months and months nonstop as well.
It usually sits at 80% or higher in CPU usage (with
nice 19) if I am not really doing much.  For the 
last two days, I have seen that it is sitting at
about 3% CPU usage and no higher while pump is
using 45% or higher of the CPU.  Why in the world
would pump need to use that much of the CPU for
a prolonged period?  It should only need to run
for a few seconds at bootup to negotiate/get an 
IP address assigned to my box (DHCP with ADSL
thru USWest).
   Can anyone enlighten me as to why pump would need
to run for such a long time, or even if that is normal,
why does it use so much of the CPU for such a long
time?  What do I need to do to fix this?
   The situation is that I used to have my box
setup to start my eth0 at bootup.  I have a 3Com
EtherlinkXL PCI card that works nicely.  Letting
pump run at bootup after setting it up to do so
via inetcfg led to a LONG wait when it came to
eth0 initialization.  Bootup would stop for a long
time but then FINALLY continue with an OK for 
the eth0 initialization.  This was intolerable so I
unchecked the start at bootup option in inetcfg
and opted to place /sbin/pump  into my 
/etc/rc.d/rc.local file outside the if statement.
This allowed bootup to proceed quickly, with no
inordinate delay while waiting for an IP to be
successfully assigned to my box AND it would still
allow me to immediately start up netscape or telnet,
etc, after logging in.  Whatever delay was occuring
ceased to affect my use of the system upon doing
this.  
   Would my doing this somehow have led to this
periodic OVERUSE of the CPU by pump?  I cannot tolerate
the incredibly long delay at bootup caused by pump
if I select start at bootup for eth0 but it is also
intolerable for pump to use so much CPU for such a 
long period (no activity lights flashing on my Cisco
675 router while pump is running thusly either) and
deprive setiathome of CPU cycles.  
  I am using a 2.2.13 kernel with my ethernet's driver
compiled in - no as a module.  The driver is the 3c59x
driver.

Any suggestions, aid, or explanations would be greatly
appreciated.

patrick  


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Re: pump using significant CPU

1999-12-24 Thread Philippe Moutarlier


I have no real suggestions there but I can testify the
same kind of behaviour with the network setting during 
the bootup phase as well. It looks like it is coming 
from the fact that it tries to access DNS somehow before realizing the network is not 
up yet so it gives up with DNS. (well, this is just a feeling 
I have about what is happenning).

There are a couple of pbs like that this the redhat boot up. 
Like setting up an alias for your eht0 when using DHCP for the 
primary IP. If I use the linuxconf stuff to do this, it will try to 
setup the alias during the bootup which will always fail (no asking me
why), but if I start aliasing manually in the rc.local everything is fine.

Philippe
  

"patrick" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I don't understand this.  I am running RH 6.1 and
 have pump-0.7.2-2 installed.  I have been running
 setiathome for months and months nonstop as well.
 It usually sits at 80% or higher in CPU usage (with
 nice 19) if I am not really doing much.  For the 
 last two days, I have seen that it is sitting at
 about 3% CPU usage and no higher while pump is
 using 45% or higher of the CPU.  Why in the world
 would pump need to use that much of the CPU for
 a prolonged period?  It should only need to run
 for a few seconds at bootup to negotiate/get an 
 IP address assigned to my box (DHCP with ADSL
 thru USWest).
Can anyone enlighten me as to why pump would need
 to run for such a long time, or even if that is normal,
 why does it use so much of the CPU for such a long
 time?  What do I need to do to fix this?
The situation is that I used to have my box
 setup to start my eth0 at bootup.  I have a 3Com
 EtherlinkXL PCI card that works nicely.  Letting
 pump run at bootup after setting it up to do so
 via inetcfg led to a LONG wait when it came to
 eth0 initialization.  Bootup would stop for a long
 time but then FINALLY continue with an OK for 
 the eth0 initialization.  This was intolerable so I
 unchecked the start at bootup option in inetcfg
 and opted to place /sbin/pump  into my 
 /etc/rc.d/rc.local file outside the if statement.
 This allowed bootup to proceed quickly, with no
 inordinate delay while waiting for an IP to be
 successfully assigned to my box AND it would still
 allow me to immediately start up netscape or telnet,
 etc, after logging in.  Whatever delay was occuring
 ceased to affect my use of the system upon doing
 this.  
Would my doing this somehow have led to this
 periodic OVERUSE of the CPU by pump?  I cannot tolerate
 the incredibly long delay at bootup caused by pump
 if I select start at bootup for eth0 but it is also
 intolerable for pump to use so much CPU for such a 
 long period (no activity lights flashing on my Cisco
 675 router while pump is running thusly either) and
 deprive setiathome of CPU cycles.  
   I am using a 2.2.13 kernel with my ethernet's driver
 compiled in - no as a module.  The driver is the 3c59x
 driver.
 
 Any suggestions, aid, or explanations would be greatly
 appreciated.
 
 patrick  
 
 
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Re: AMD K6-III @ 450MHZ

1999-12-24 Thread fred smith

On Fri, Dec 24, 1999 at 06:44:45PM +1030, lloy0076 wrote:
 
 Hi There!
 
 I have recently installed an MS-5184 Baby AT VI4 Motherboard with an AMD
 K6-III running at 450MHZ. I used to run an AMD K6-II @ 366MHZ with an
 old, 66MHZ board. The memory is exactly the same. Some people said I

You're not using PC100 RAM with the new board? I'd think that would 
cost you BIG on performance since you can't (shouldn't) run old RAM
at the 100Mhz bus speed the K6-III will prefer.

 would notice a difference; some said I wouldn't. My experiences so far
 are:
 
 * StarOffice actually looks like it's doing something and reacts
 straight away
 * Netscape loads almost at the click of a button
 * X runs significantly faster
 * The GIMP loads significantly faster
 
 In my opinion the upgrade has been worth it. Besides, I now have two
 relatively fast machines. The older KG II @ 366MHZ was certainly quite
 fast and I still have it; just gotta get round to installing it into a
 case somewhere. The only glitch is that it killed my Windows (again). 

Yeah, I learned the hard way last spring when I put a new motherboard in
my system that Windoze positively *hates* it when the hardware changes
out from under it. I'm told I should have gone to "control panel"
"system" and removed all the system devices when shutting down the old
motherboard for the last time. I didn't, and had a major war with
Windoze to get it to even work. Even after the war there's still a
skirmish or two (every time it boots Windows kindly "finds new hardware"
for me, and it's always my sound card and my IDE disk controller--which
it already knows about and which work fine. I've got to tell it CANCEL
else it'll install a second copy of them. Every time!).

 
 Because some of the I/O port addresses are different, Windows is asking
 this and asking that and asking this and askng that. I will eventually
 get around to installing the stupid thing

You could TRY doing what I suggest above, i.e., remove all the devices
under control-panel/system, shut it down then reboot windoze and let it
re-find all the hardware again. Reputed to work. Helped when I did it,
except for the ongoing issue I mention above which is not helped by
that technique.

Thank goodness I rarely boot windoze on that system (I've got an old 486
on which I run Windoze when I absolutely have to) so it's not much of a
problem anymore.

Fred
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odd netatalk permissions problem

1999-12-24 Thread Brian Anderson

we have a mac, running os 9 on the network. it accesses the linux box over
netatalk (netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.1.3-6)

it sets some wierd bit that i've never seen:


drwx--Srwx   6 gaelen   522  1024 Dec 15 14:13 Network Trash Folder
  ^

what is that? even as root i can't see the contents of the directory, du
reports 1K, ls -la says 0 files...

if i chmod the directory to something w/o the S bit, it's all fine. what
is the S, and how can i prevent it?



brian

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xntp broacast?

1999-12-24 Thread Todd A. Jacobs

Anyone know how to set xntp to broadcast the time on a local subnet?

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Re: xntp broacast?

1999-12-24 Thread Todd A. Jacobs

On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Stefan Smietanowski wrote:

 You want all your machines to be synced with the ntp server simply?
 
 Two ways, one is to install xntpd on all machines, enter the config and
 insert your server there, then they'll sync with an internval you set.

No, what I'm trying to do is set up my Linux box as a Stratum 2/3 server
for a domain. The idea behind using either broadcast or multicast is to
reduce the load on the interface by sending out a time "heartbeat" instead
of having the overhead of responding to UDP queries. The Win32 machines in
the subnet won't be affected enought by the small drift incurred by using
broadcast instead of unicast for it to matter.

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Re: xntp broacast?

1999-12-24 Thread Stefan Smietanowski

Hi,

  You want all your machines to be synced with the ntp server simply?
 
  Two ways, one is to install xntpd on all machines, enter the config and
  insert your server there, then they'll sync with an internval you set.
 
 No, what I'm trying to do is set up my Linux box as a Stratum 2/3 server
 for a domain. The idea behind using either broadcast or multicast is to
 reduce the load on the interface by sending out a time "heartbeat" instead
 of having the overhead of responding to UDP queries. The Win32 machines in
 the subnet won't be affected enought by the small drift incurred by using
 broadcast instead of unicast for it to matter.

Seems I was wrong.

I just double checked. Check /usr/doc/xntp-your_version.

Read the xntpd.html. There's info there how to do it.

You want the 'broadcastserver' or 'multicastserver' keyword.

I appologize for not remembering correctly regarding b.cast/m.cast.

Hope this helps.

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Re: xntp broacast?

1999-12-24 Thread Todd A. Jacobs

On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Stefan Smietanowski wrote:

 Read the xntpd.html. There's info there how to do it.

The documentation sucks. The keyword is actually in confopt.html. The
usage is:

# Send out a time-signal "heartbeat" to my local network.
broadcast 192.168.1.255
broadcastdelay  0.008

or whatever is appropriate to the local network.

Thanks for trying to help, though--especially when everyone else is off
getting plastered on eggnog. :)

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Re: xntp broacast?

1999-12-24 Thread Stefan Smietanowski

Hi.

  Read the xntpd.html. There's info there how to do it.
 
 The documentation sucks. The keyword is actually in confopt.html. The
 usage is:
 
 # Send out a time-signal "heartbeat" to my local network.
 broadcast 192.168.1.255
 broadcastdelay  0.008
 
 or whatever is appropriate to the local network.
 
 Thanks for trying to help, though--especially when everyone else is off
 getting plastered on eggnog. :)

No problem. I must have followed a link to the option or something, but
that's the file I used to get there :)

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Re: png format and netscape

1999-12-24 Thread Mohammad A. Haque

PNG images display just fine here with 4.7. But I'm not using 4.7 from
the RPMs. I grabbed the tarball from ftp.netscape.com. Dunno if that
makes a difference. I doubt it.

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patrick wrote:
 
 I thought netscape had the inherent ability to
 "see" png images.  Apparently it doesn't because
 I cannot view png images.  What app or plugin do
 I need to make netscape 4.7 be able to display
 png files?
 
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sophisticated trickery(AfterStep)

1999-12-24 Thread Darin Bailey

Ok, I finally had AfterStep running (which is cool by the way) but after I 
rebooted the system, it was back on Gnome and now I can't find the option to 
change window managers.
1) what the hell?

There's a file called .AfterStep-errors in my home dir now,
2) does that mean something?

the menu with the shortcuts at the bottom of the screen (with the start 
botton) left somewhere without my permission,
3) how do I get it back?

4)what desktop (AfterStep, gnome, etc...) does everyone else recommend I 
use?
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trickery - AfterStep

1999-12-24 Thread Darin Bailey

Ok, I finally had AfterStep running (which is cool by the way) but after I 
rebooted the system, it was back on Gnome and now I can't find the option to 
change window managers.
1) what the hell?

There's a file called .AfterStep-errors in my home dir now,
2) does that mean something?

the menu with the shortcuts at the bottom of the screen (with the start 
botton) left somewhere without my permission,
3) how do I get it back?

4)what desktop (AfterStep, gnome, etc...) does everyone else recommend I 
use?
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Re: sophisticated trickery(AfterStep)

1999-12-24 Thread Todd A. Jacobs

On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, Darin Bailey wrote:

 Ok, I finally had AfterStep running (which is cool by the way) but
 after I rebooted the system, it was back on Gnome and now I can't find
 the option to change window managers. 
 1) what the hell?

I have been having the opposite problem: mine keeps defaulting back to
enlightenment. Running switchdesk doesn't seem to help; somehow, .wm_style
keeps being reset.

 4)what desktop (AfterStep, gnome, etc...) does everyone else recommend

That's strictly a matter of taste. Gnome isn't a window manager, though,
it's a session manager. You should be able to run afterstep under gnome,
although certain features might not work as well as with enlightenment or
windowmaker.

Both gnome and KDE chew up huge amounts of RAM, as does E. If you're light
on memory, use afterstep or windowmaker (or whatever else you like), but
don't run the KDE or gnome session managers. Then again, if you have the
RAM to spare, it doesn't really matter much what you run, as long as you
like it. :)

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named caching

1999-12-24 Thread Vidiot

Other than rebooting, how to I clear out the named cache?  I am running
the stock RH6.0 /etc/named.conf.

Of course, I would prefer an option other than rebooting :-)

Happy Holidays.

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Re: named caching

1999-12-24 Thread tom minchin

On Sat, Dec 25, 1999 at 12:03:18AM -0600, Vidiot wrote:
 Other than rebooting, how to I clear out the named cache?  I am running
 the stock RH6.0 /etc/named.conf.
 
 Of course, I would prefer an option other than rebooting :-)
 

ndc restart should do the trick.

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Re: named caching

1999-12-24 Thread Vidiot

On Sat, Dec 25, 1999 at 12:03:18AM -0600, Vidiot wrote:
 Other than rebooting, how to I clear out the named cache?  I am running
 the stock RH6.0 /etc/named.conf.
 
 Of course, I would prefer an option other than rebooting :-)
 

ndc restart should do the trick.

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for my multimedia box and my brain in fried.

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