Re: Kernel 2.5.65 and my thoughts

2003-03-23 Thread Oeystein Olsen
On Sunday 23 March 2003 04:47, Christopher Henderson wrote:
 I recently compiled and installed Linux 2.5.65 onto my Red Hat 8 box. 



 Well, I for one am very much looking forward to 2.6 - I cannot wait!!

 Anyone else experimenting with 2.5?


I've been trying to compile the 2.5.65 kernel on RH8.0 and I've had a few 
problems. Which compiler are you using? Could you please send me your 
.config-file?

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Re: need a strategy to backup my systems

2003-03-23 Thread Keith Morse
On Sat, 22 Mar 2003, Eric Wood wrote:

 Yes, forget everything but rsync. Man rsync.  
 -eric wood
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Anthony E. Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On 21-Mar-2003/20:41 -0500, Jianping Zhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a 3 redhat linux machines m1 m2 m3. but only m1 has tape
  dirve. for security reason ftp service did not open in any of this
  machines. ssh are open in all three machines. I need to backup directory
  d2 in m2 and d3 in m3. how can I backup d2 d3 from m1?
  Thanks
  
  rsync works well over ssh. Search Google for:  rsync over ssh HOWTO


Well actually, rsync is not the only solution.  When faced with a similiar 
situation, I searched on groups.google.com and found hits that gave 
examples on how to do this with ssh, pipes, and tar.  Works quite well.



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redhat 8.0 hangs towards the end

2003-03-23 Thread mourad mourad
Hi,
 I am having pbs while installing RH 8.0 over XP, it hangs ...
 the installation ???
 Maximum command lines (5) encountered, ignoring the rest...
 Would it be a pb of the boot loader ??

 My second question is :

 Is linuxconf no more supported in this version ??

 Many tks!






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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 2 problems ...
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 22:04:59 -0500
On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 15:38, Mike Taggart wrote:
 2ndly ... my mouse freaks out on it own - i've tired switching the mouse 
to
 the generic wheel mouse, generic ps/2 mouse, M$ PS/2 mouse, Intellimouse
 PS/2 ... and does the same thing no matter which mouse driver is used.  
It's

If setting it to a generic PS/2 doesn't fix it, try disabling gpm (the
console mouse service).
As root:

# chkconfig gpm off
# service gpm stop


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RE: A code editor with auto-indentation ?

2003-03-23 Thread Julien Olivier
 First and most
 importantly, you don't need X to use all of its resources.  You can get as
 much out of it from a terminal window as you can from X.  I usually use it
 in X but quite frequently I need to do something from the terminal and get
 to make use of its power.

I agree with you. That's my editor of choice when I don't have X (for
example in SSH).

 The second is that you can split one buffer into
 two parts.  One part on top can view any region of the document you are on
 (or another document if you want) while the other views a different part of
 the same buffer.  This means that changes to either the top portion or the
 bottom get changed on the document.  It is like opening up two windows with
 the same document and making changes to both and when you go to save them
 all changes are recorded to the one document.  This is especially useful
 when you have a long document of code and need to reference another part of
 the document.  If you want to see how it works, open up a document in emacs
 and use ctrl+x 2  make a change to the top part and use ctrl+x o to switch
 between them.  Notice when you change one it changes both.  

jEdit (www.jedit.org) has that too.

 The third reason
 is that it is faster to use the memorized key sequences if you know how to
 type reasonably fast.  Moving your hands from the keyboard to move the mouse
 takes time.  (Time that irritates me if I have to use it a lot).  Once you
 get used to the key sequences you hate working without them.  I don't expect
 everyone to feel it is necessary to memorize key maps to code, nor most
 people for that matter.  However, if you do a lot of this stuff, memorizing
 them in the beginning can pay off in the long run.

Well, I agree on that too. But the fact is that I can associate keys to
functions in other editors too, but IMO it's easier to do so in other
editors. So, yes, having keybindings is useful but only if you can
change them easily (without knowing LISP :)).

But, as you said, the first argument (running it without X) makes it a
must-have app, even if I wouldn't use it on X.



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RE: redhat 8.0, qmail, runlevel problems

2003-03-23 Thread Kaya Bykelen
Hello,
I have looked at the /etc/inittab and changed runlevel to 3,
And all problems are gone now.
Everything works fine.
Thank you Joe.

Regards,
Kaya Bykelen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Joe Polk
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 1:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: redhat 8.0, qmail, runlevel problems

I can't answer all of these, but:
Your default runlevel is set in /etc/inittab. Look for a line like this:
id:5:initdefault:

I'm on a laptop that boots to X so my runlevel is 5 signified by the
id:5 in the line above. If you want to boot to runlevel 3, let's say,
then you would simply change the 5 to 3. However, take a look at your
given runlevel directory and see what is starting and not starting. Or
simply use chkconfig in your current runlevel to see what's starting
(probably preferred).

JAV

On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 18:42, Kaya Bykelen wrote:
 Hello,
 I have redhat 8.0. I installed ltsp and now the system does not run
 apache,qmail, mysql, samba, proftpd, etc. etc.
 When I change runlevel it starts.
 What is the problem?
 What must runlevel be?
 Where can I set the devault runlevel?
 And after the reboot, I can start apache vs. manually but qmail does
not
 start.
 What is the problem with qmail?
  
  
 Regards,
 Kaya Bykelen
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Linux MAN Pages in PDF format

2003-03-23 Thread Ryan K. McKee




Does anyone know where I might be able to find a Linux MAN Page 
collection in PDF format? One might ask, “why in PDF?” Well, I’ll tell you why, 
for a number of reasons.

First, I have many Linux Books with a wealth of knowledge, however, most 
discuss reading MAN pages along with the HOWTOs and the News Groups before even 
mentioning how to install Linux; so the end user is stuck in a recursive cycle 
of: “I can’t install Linux till I’ve read some MAN pages, but I can’t read MAN 
pages until I install Linux.”

You say, “There are other ways of accessing the MAN Pages; online, html, 
from Installation CDs, Books, etc.” You’re absolutely right! However the simple 
rebuttal to this is not everyone has access to these resources that many so 
commonly take for granted. Some people struggle financially or are restricted to 
primitive technology or have no on-line means, or perhaps can’t even obtain 
Installation Discs for this reason or that.

Secondly, I’m in the process of compiling a CD with a bunch of resources 
and cool stuff for Linux newbies. Including; HOWTOs (in different formats), 
GUIDEs (in different formats), MAN Pages (hopefully, in different formats), 
BOOKs, Pictures (such as the hot linux chicks, most commonly found all over the 
internet), ASCII ART (such as TUX the Penguin), the LINUX SWITCH FLASH 
animation, and a whole lot more… It’s my small way to contribute to the 
community and at the same time learn, not to mention having a wonderful Resource 
CD handy ;-)

Third, It would just plain be cool. Imagine being able to transport the 
MAN pages on your Palm Pilot to review while away from the computer. Or simply 
knowing the fact that you have access to the rare distribution of the MAN Pages 
as a whole (believe me, I know, did a ton of Google Searching.) 

Fourth, personal reasons. Does everything have to have a reason… 
?

Anyhow, if someone comes across a compilation of the Linux MAN Pages in 
PDF format or if they are willing to compile such a collection on their own, 
then I would appreciate it if that person would notify me via e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or even POST a 
response in this forum/newsgroup.

Thanx in Advance,
Ryan \ SolarDegree \ nerpoc


ADSL

2003-03-23 Thread Thijs Thiessens
Hello,

I have just installed a new RH 8.0 distr.After a successfull
installation I can not make a connection with the Internet. I have a
ADSL modem (MXStream) If I look at the hardware browser I can see my
modem, however, it is not installed as such, rather it is installed as a
system device. If someone has some sort of solution, please reply.


Cheers,


Thijs
The Netherlands


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Question about dhcpd leases

2003-03-23 Thread Ragnar Wiencke
Hi there guys.

I there a way to ask the dhcpd about active and nonactive
leases? And if so, how to delete nonactive leases? And
preferably a nongraphic way as I do not run X on that
machine.

Thanks in advance and best regards,
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Re: Linux MAN Pages in PDF format

2003-03-23 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 06:13:06AM -0600, Ryan K. McKee wrote:
 
 Anyhow, if someone comes across a compilation of the Linux MAN Pages in PDF
 format or if they are willing to compile such a collection on their own, then I
 would appreciate it if that person would notify me via e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
 even POST a response in this forum/newsgroup.

If you have access to these in html, it is easy to convert them to
PDF. See http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc/. In fact, I believe RH comes
with man2html which does the first part for you. 

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Re: dmesg output - please interpret

2003-03-23 Thread Michael Mansour
Hi Jeff,

 Hi,
 
 I'm running RH8.0 with kernel 2.4.18-27.8.0 on a
 Dual
 Pentium II 300MHz CPU. The system boots up and runs
 fine, although I get a couple of errors. Following
 is
 my dmesg output:
 
 (feel free to go scan though it and tell me if
 anything looks weird to you, especially the
 invalid
 operand:  bit of the output).
 
 Linux version 2.4.18-27.8.0smp
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version
 
 SNIP
 hdc: ATAPI 20X CD-ROM drive, 120kB Cache
 Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
 cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I
 recognize!
 cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I
 recognize!
   
 
 ??  in fstab... do you have auto in the cdrom
 line???
 
 it should look something like one of these if
 correct...
 
 /dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom 
 iso9660 
 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0
 /dev/cdrom1 /mnt/burner
 iso9660 
 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0

The following is the cdrom line of my fstab:

/dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom 
iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0

Weird how it gets that error hey.

 The other issue I get when booting (it's not
 included
 in dmesg but does show up on the screen) is a
 segmentation fault error on line 44 of the
 rc.sysinit
 script, which is basically the bit of the script:
 
 if [ $PROMPT != no ]; then
  echo -en $\t\tPress 'I' to enter interactive
 startup.
  echo
  sleep 1
 fi
 
 # Fix console loglevel
 /bin/dmesg -n $LOGLEVEL
 
 # Mount /proc (done here so volume labels can work
 with fsck)
 action $Mounting proc filesystem:  mount -n -t
 proc
 /proc /proc
 
 
 ie. line 44 is the fi after the sleep 1 line.
 Weird why that error is produced.
 
 Works fine with no errors when booting the non-SMP
 kernel.
   
 
 Ah the joys of SMP...  have you tried filing a bug
 in bugzilla???  there 
 may be some sort of issue wiht the SMP kernel that
 comes out of hte box 
 (wouldnt be the first time)

I think I will try that yes, I haven't done it before
but from memory it's something like
bugzilla.redhat.com?? I'll give it a go tomorrow and
report it to Red Hat.

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zcat ./glEvalMesh

2003-03-23 Thread Kleiner Hampel
Hi,

yesterday i saw this in my ps -aux output:

root  9735  0.0  0.1  1680  356 ?RN   12:09   0:00 zcat
./glEvalMesh

What the hell is this???

please help
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Re: dmesg output - please interpret

2003-03-23 Thread Michael Mansour
Hi,

 | SNIP
 | hdc: ATAPI 20X CD-ROM drive, 120kB Cache
 | Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
 | cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I
 recognize!
 | cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I
 recognize!
 |
 | ??  in fstab... do you have auto in the cdrom
 line???
 
 I'm more inclined to think he has an audio CD in the
 drive, not a data CD.

The cd drive is empty actually... I thought it had
something to do with the KDE automounter always
checking the cd drive to see if something is in it?

Michael.

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Re: zcat ./glEvalMesh

2003-03-23 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 02:25:18PM +0100, Kleiner Hampel wrote:
 Hi,
 
 yesterday i saw this in my ps -aux output:
 
 root  9735  0.0  0.1  1680  356 ?RN   12:09   0:00 zcat
 ./glEvalMesh
 
 What the hell is this???
Try man zcat.  Its very enlightening.
hint - it is sometimes used to uncompress man pages before displaying their
contents.


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Re: Kernel 2.5.65 and my thoughts

2003-03-23 Thread Christopher Henderson
On Sun, 2003-03-23 at 02:01, Oeystein Olsen wrote:
 On Sunday 23 March 2003 04:47, Christopher Henderson wrote:
  I recently compiled and installed Linux 2.5.65 onto my Red Hat 8 box. 
 
 
 
  Well, I for one am very much looking forward to 2.6 - I cannot wait!!
 
  Anyone else experimenting with 2.5?
 
 
 I've been trying to compile the 2.5.65 kernel on RH8.0 and I've had a few 
 problems. Which compiler are you using? Could you please send me your 
 .config-file?

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6740

read this, you need the latest kernel mod utilities apprently.  Outside
of that and some other apps I've installed, my machine is very much a
normal RH 8 install.  I've also noticed that quoting out root=LABEL=/1
works, else I get a kernel panic upon boot.  So far for me its been very
stable and I hadn't lost data yet.  Everything you hear about the new
scheduler is TRUE!  It rocks, I'm doing some heavy compiling in the
background right now with the -j3 flag for my two cpu's, and I'm typing
this, listening to some skip free mp3s, and if I click on mozilla I'd
get instant response - quite a huge improvement over the 2.4 scheduler. 
I'm in love  :-)

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Re: Kernel 2.5.65 and my thoughts

2003-03-23 Thread Christopher Henderson
On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 22:21, nate wrote:
 Christopher Henderson said:
 
 
  wrong drivers, my SCSI hard disk has the very same issue - half the
  performance, and I know its the right driver.
 
 2.5.x has had broken ide for a while, I think it's improved quite
 a bit(from what i've read) in recent builds but I would suspect your
 trouble is due to the apparent flux that IDE is in 2.5.x. Last I
 heard, someone forward ported a buncha 2.4.x ide stuff to 2.5.x..
 depending on the ide chipset may depend on what kinda support you
 get..Your lucky that you haven't experienced any noticable curroption.

I'm fairly cautious, I've asked around and checked before I installed it
- no one I know has last data off of this release yet.  The IDE changes
apparently are mild compared to what was attempted early in the series,
which was latter scraped.  I'm not entirely certain if its that,
performance subjectively is the same or faster - just hdparm reports
slower performance.  Also, it couldn't merely be the IDE layer -
remember I also reported simular benchmarkable performance drops with my
SCSI hard disk of equal proportions.

  Anyone else experimenting with 2.5?
 
 I just started experimenting with 2.4.x a few months ago, at this
 rate maybe by 2006 I'll start playing with 2.6.x :)
 
 2.2.x works great for most of my systems. They are even invulnerable
 to the recent kernel bug(I don't compile kernels with CONFIG_KMOD)

What are your thoughts on 2.4 so far?  I've noticed substantial
performance boosts everytime I've upgraded to a new major series.  My
first taste of Linux was Red Hat 5.1 with a 2.0.x series kernel, and
going from that to 2.2 was very noticable, as was 2.2  2.4.  It would
appear at this point that 2.6 shall be of the same sort of scale.

~Christopher

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Re: zcat ./glEvalMesh

2003-03-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
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On 23 Mar 2003 14:25:18 +0100, Kleiner Hampel wrote:

 yesterday i saw this in my ps -aux output:
 
 root  9735  0.0  0.1  1680  356 ?RN   12:09   0:00 zcat
 ./glEvalMesh
 
 What the hell is this???

Strange question. glEvalMesh is an OpenGL function. Apparently,
you queried the corresponding manual page as root user.

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Re: installed redhat 8.0 - forgot xfree

2003-03-23 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, Robert Jameson wrote:

 I recently did a install and didn't choose to install Xfree or Gnome, and
 now I need them



 What's the best way to go about getting these packages all of them..

You need to have something that automatically resolves dependencies. One
way is to run the install again, but choose Upgrade, then select the
packages you want from the manual selection page.  You can also use
up2date.  Either way, you may find yourself needing packages later that
you missed, and up2date is the best way to add those.

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rpm::allow-dublicated

2003-03-23 Thread tuija
Hi,

I installed in my Valhalla this apt-get
system, but now when I do apt-get update
I got errors of two libpng-packages
I installed libpng-1.2.2-6 with rpm -i
--replacefiles cause it conflicted with
libpng-1.0.14-0.7x-4 but I need them both,
this 1.0.x.x cause of several packages
and libpng-1.2.x.x cause of links2 browser
apt-get says lookup rpm::allow-duplicated?
How can I do this allow-duplicated?

Tuija


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Re: ADSL

2003-03-23 Thread stevnewb
Thijs Thiessens:

Try the following:  [These are commands to the terminal]
cd /sbin  /* this is where most of the commands live  */
cp /etc/rc.d/init.d/adsl .  /* now adsl lives here too  */
ls/*  lots and lots of commands!  */
/*  these commands from here need prefix ./ to run!  */
./ifconfig  ppp0  /*  need ppp0 2 run ADSL. Should reassure  */
ping yahoo.com  /*  If no answer, pppoe not activated, so exit w.^C and try the next */
./service network restart /* need six green OKs. if not, hit   
   uparrow, and enter to repeat until success  */
neat  /*  If tells you that can't activate, don't believe it! */
ping yahoo.com  /*  should answer.  exit w. ^C  */
/*  if no ping response, try:  */
./adsl start  /*  follow that w. ./adsl status  */
ping yahoo.com  /* if that doesn't respond then I can't help  */

===

Let me know how it worked out.

Cheers, 

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Adding old Glib 5,

2003-03-23 Thread Robert Canary
I have an old app I need to run on a 7.1 RHN system, but it needs the
older lib 5 family, I have/found the ld.so-1.9.5-13 rpm and installed
it, but it needs the lib.so.5.

I did a locate on a differnet machine which this same app runs, it dose
have the ld.so package, however, what package/s would have the lib.so.5.

And what side effects should I be expecting?

Can I run the only this app in such away it can use the lib5 family,
without actually linking the lib5 to the rest of machines libs?

Thanks in advance
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Re: Adding old Glib 5,

2003-03-23 Thread Robert Canary
Oh yes, the compat-6 rpm for 7.1 is also loaded...


Robert Canary wrote:
 
 I have an old app I need to run on a 7.1 RHN system, but it needs the
 older lib 5 family, I have/found the ld.so-1.9.5-13 rpm and installed
 it, but it needs the lib.so.5.
 
 I did a locate on a differnet machine which this same app runs, it dose
 have the ld.so package, however, what package/s would have the lib.so.5.
 
 And what side effects should I be expecting?
 
 Can I run the only this app in such away it can use the lib5 family,
 without actually linking the lib5 to the rest of machines libs?
 
 Thanks in advance
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Console MP3 Players

2003-03-23 Thread Alejandro Calbazana



Hello,

I've downloaded mpg123 as a console MP3 
player. Everything works great, but I am curious... Is there any way to 
control volume from the console? 

Thanks,

Alejandro


NFS and mail again

2003-03-23 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
   Someone explain to me again why mounting /var/spool/mail over NFS 
isn't a good idea?  Something about locking issues and/or monitoring the 
NFS mount?  Is there some sort of work around to the problem?

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Re: NFS and mail again

2003-03-23 Thread nate
Ashley M. Kirchner said:

 Someone explain to me again why mounting /var/spool/mail over NFS
 isn't a good idea?  Something about locking issues and/or monitoring the
 NFS mount?  Is there some sort of work around to the problem?

yes locking issues. The only way around it is to use a mailer that
doesn't depend so heavily on locking. I think Courier IMAP with
Maildir is the only one I'm aware of that I've read is safe to use
over NFS.  That said I still wouldn't use it over NFS myself, I'm
paranoid.


http://www.courier-mta.org/imapd.html

The File Alteration Monitor package, FAM, must be properly installed and
configured prior to installing Courier-IMAP.

FAM is an application library that provides an interface to the operating
system's kernel that applications can use to be notified when specific files
or directories are changed, and Courier-IMAP leverages this API to implement
realtime concurrent folder status updates. According to the most recently
available documentation, FAM builds and runs on Linux and IRIX. FAM should
also build on other platform, but without a supported kernel monitor FAM
will fall back to a polling mode. At press time, FAM's web site reports that
FAM succesfully builds (in polling mode) on FreeBSD and Solaris.

FAM also works with NFS filesystems. On NFS clients fam transparently
forwards file monitoring requests to a peer fam process on the NFS server.

(not sure if the above is directly related to spooling mail on NFS
but I think it is..)

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Re: Console MP3 Players

2003-03-23 Thread nate
Alejandro Calbazana said:
 Hello,

 I've downloaded mpg123 as a console MP3 player.  Everything works great,
 but I am curious... Is there any way to control volume from the console?

there are several console mixers available for linux. my favorite is
'rexima'. I am not certain if it is available in stock redhat or not.

if not, it's homepage seems to be here:
http://rus.members.beeb.net/rexima.html

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SSH quirk...

2003-03-23 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
   One thing I've noticed since day one and never really bothered with 
it, although now I wonder  If I ssh to any of my servers, execute an 
init script restart (or stop, start), then exit, the remote ssh process 
never quits.  I have to kill the actual process from where I ssh-ed from 
(or presumably the remote process would produce the same effect):

   [ server-1 ] -- ssh into -- [ server-2 ]

   In this scenario, say I execute any restart command, rndc, sendmail, 
nfs, anything, then type exit, it just hangs.  server-2 never issues a 
connection close or anything.  I have a log in from a second terminal to 
server-1 and kill the ssh process that goes to server-2 (or log onto 
server-2 from a different terminal and kill the process.)

   It doesn't matter what server I'm ssh FROM nor TO (I have about 10 
of them,) it happens consistently on all of them.

   All machines are running RH7.3, with the following openssh packages 
installed:

   # rpm -qa | grep openssh
   openssh-3.1p1-6
   openssh-clients-3.1p1-6
   openssh-server-3.1p1-6
   Has anyone noticed this?

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Re: SSH quirk...

2003-03-23 Thread nate
Ashley M. Kirchner said:

 In this scenario, say I execute any restart command, rndc, sendmail,
 nfs, anything, then type exit, it just hangs.

yes I have noticed this from time to time. It's quite rare for me,
but does happen. Haven't investigated much yet myself. quite odd,
I usually run ssh with debugging (-v) and it too hangs, no debug
output when logging out in such situations. pain in the ass sometimes,
luckily it does not seem to affect any of my scripts that do automated
ssh actions.

at first I thought it may of been due to ssh having trouble closing
any sockets that are forwarding for X. but after looking at my debug
logs it shows that is probably not the case.

most of my systems are debian, I can't remember if I've experienced
the problem on a debian-debian system specifically but I think I have.


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system freeze ...

2003-03-23 Thread Mike Taggart



I'm running into a problem and not sure why it 
happens - I'm running the updates through RHN and my pc is routinely freezing 
during the updates. I've reseated my RAM and Video card thinking maybe 
somehow they came loose.

Anyone run into this before or know how to fix 
it?

Mike


Re: [RH List] Re: SSH quirk...

2003-03-23 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
nate wrote:

yes I have noticed this from time to time. It's quite rare for me,
but does happen. Haven't investigated much yet myself. quite odd,
 

   Okay, I'm not going crazy then.  For me it only happens whenever I 
execute some restart (or stop/start) init script.  Any other time I can 
log in and out just fine.  It almost seems as if ssh expects whatever 
process you started to quit or something.  Like it won't exit if there's 
something tied to it.  Bizarre.

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Re: A code editor with auto-indentation ?

2003-03-23 Thread Gordon Messmer
Julien Olivier wrote:


Waow !? Am I the only one to find it VERY complicated ? I mean CTRL-W
CTRL-Y, then CTRL-W CTRL-Y CTRL-Y just to do a copy/paste... I think
it's simpler to actually write the text manually :)
Meta-W to copy.
Ctrl-Y to paste.
It's not nearly as complicated as all of that.  If you have never gone 
through emacs' tutorial, then: C-ht

You may find any number of operations easier once you've Read The Fine 
Manual.  (And a fine manual it is.)



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Re: system freeze ...

2003-03-23 Thread Joe Polk
Is this in X? Are you sure it isn't a long update? How is it manifesting
itself?

JAV

On Sun, 2003-03-23 at 16:24, Mike Taggart wrote:
 I'm running into a problem and not sure why it happens - I'm running the updates 
 through RHN and my pc is routinely freezing during the updates.  I've reseated my 
 RAM and Video card thinking maybe somehow they came loose.
 
 Anyone run into this before or know how to fix it?
 
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Re: system freeze ...

2003-03-23 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 04:24:04PM -0500, Mike Taggart wrote:
 I'm running into a problem and not sure why it happens - I'm running the
updates through RHN and my pc is routinely freezing during the updates.
I've reseated my RAM and Video card thinking maybe somehow they came
loose.Anyone run into this before or know how to fix it?Mike

Hi Mike - It might be a bad piece of RAM.  Go to http://memtest86.com
and download the standalone Ram test called memtest86.  It runs
standalone from a floppy and does a superb job of exhaustively testing
your RAM.  There are many types of memory errors which the simple boot-up
memory tests don't check for.  Memtest86 can run for hours or days (if
you want it to ) doing exhaustive testing of your RAM.  Everybody should
have a Memtest86 floppy in their desk.


Also - please don't post HTML to this list.  It costs our UK list members
extra money when you do.  thanks.

You're mailing from MS Outlook Express. Here aresome instructions
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Re: system freeze ...

2003-03-23 Thread Steven Efurd
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 16:24:04 -0500
Mike Taggart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm running into a problem and not sure why it happens - I'm running the updates 
 through RHN and my pc is routinely freezing during the updates.  I've reseated my 
 RAM and Video card thinking maybe somehow they came loose.
 
 Anyone run into this before or know how to fix it?
 
 Mike
try this:
 rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db* 
 rpm -vv --rebuilddb 

then retry the updates

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Re: Shutting down RedHat 8 with NFS mounts active

2003-03-23 Thread Ryurick M. Hristev
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Michael Mansour wrote:

[...]

 Sometimes it's very impractible (and sometimes I
 forget) to dismount all exported volumes before
 shutting down the NFS server.
 
 What can I do to fix this?

It is likely that they are still in use and thus can't be unmounted.
This shouldn't normally happen.

Then you have to find out what process still uses them.
Try to use the fuser command.

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Re: A code editor with auto-indentation ?

2003-03-23 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sat, 22 Mar 2003, Matthew Saltzman wrote:

 On Sat, 23 Mar 2003, Julien Olivier wrote:

Note: Julien, there seems to be something odd about your date setting.

  [...]
 
  Waow !? Am I the only one to find it VERY complicated ? I mean CTRL-W
  CTRL-Y, then CTRL-W CTRL-Y CTRL-Y just to do a copy/paste... I think
  it's simpler to actually write the text manually :)

 BTW, there is a copy command so you don't need to kill and yank to get
 something into the kill ring, but you'd have to map it to a single
 keystroke yourself, as it is not done by default.  Also, don't forget the
 other substitution commands, which can be more appropriate in somne
 circumstances.

Gordon Messmer, in another message in this thread, has pointed out that
ALT-W runs kill-ring-save, which does what I described.  I was thinking of
copy-region-as-kill, which is not mapped to a key combo.  I had forgotten
about ALT-W, but the help for it says:

  Save the region as if killed, but don't kill it.
  This command is similar to `copy-region-as-kill', except that it gives
  visual feedback indicating the extent of the region being copied.

The visual feedback is a temporary highlighting of the copied region.

BTW, another neat thing you can do in emacs is to kill, copy, and yank
rectangular subregions of the file, as if it was a 2-dimensional table of
characters.  Very cool for editing tables, and I don't know of another
editor that can do that.

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Re: Remove all existing partitions

2003-03-23 Thread Douglas Alan
Anthony E. Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Douglas Alan wrote:

 I haven't used kickstart myself but I would expect it to remove all
 partitions on all disks if you told it to remove all existing
 partitions ..

 That's a mighty literal interpretation of all when it comes to
 valuable data.  I can't imagine any circumstance when I would want all
 partitions on all disk drives to be removed during an OS install,

 1. You get a Windows computer from someone, but you only use Linux.

In that case, you can explicitly delete these partitions or configure
the install program to delete these partitions for you, rather than have
the install program *automatically* delete them for you.

 2. You have a standard config of partitions, OS,  apps that is
 different from what's on the box (this is the most common use of
 kickstart).

Exactly.  But my standard config is limited to the boot disk drive.  In
fact, I explicitly told Kickstart to *only* make partitions on the boot
disk drive.  It has no good reason to mess with the partition tables of
disk drives that it is not putting partitions onto.

 UNIX-like systems do not make such a big deal out of using different
 drives. They're just mount points, all located somewhere under the '/'
 directory.

Indeed.  How does this imply that the OS installer should delete
patitions on drives it was told not to put partitions onto?

 Even nework shares are treated like this. There is nothing
 like the drive letters used in DOS/Win because drives are not such a
 big deal. On a single machine all partitions is interpreted in the
 context of the machine.

Apparently you are correct in that this is how the Red Hat installer
operates.  But that doesn't mean that it *should* behave this way.  I
explcitly told the Red Hat installer to put partitions *only* on hda.
And indeed, it follows those instructions perfectly, and put partitions
only on hda.  It has no business, however, modifying the partition
tables on other drives that it is not putting partitions onto.  That is
just plain wrong.

  and there is no option to Kickstart telling it to remove partitions
  only on the boot disk drive.  One typically assumes that an OS
  installer behaves somewhat reasonably.  Apparently, that is asking
  too much in this case.

 It is behaving reasonably. It's just using a different set of
 assumptions than you are.

Sure, it is behaving reasonably.  If we are willing to accept stupid
assumptions, that is.

It amazes me how often people will defend clearly incorrect behavior.

  Unfortuntely, the data is not mine, but rather the head of the
  department's.

 So, you did an OS install on a department head's computer using an
 unfamiliar procedure without backing up the data to a safe place
 first. Sometimes experience really is the best teacher. I hope this
 lesson doesn't turn out to be too expensive.

It's not my job to backup anyone's data.  That's each user's
responsibility.  Nor did I have a place to back it up to, even if I had
wanted to.  And the only reason I was doing an OS install, is because
the Red Hat upgrader made the computer unbootable.

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Re: system freeze ...

2003-03-23 Thread Mike Taggart
Jeff,

Sorry bout the HTML email - it's OE's default for me and I simply forgot to
change it over to Plain Text.

Mike


- Original Message -
From: Jeff Kinz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: system freeze ...


 On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 04:24:04PM -0500, Mike Taggart wrote:
  I'm running into a problem and not sure why it happens - I'm running the
 updates through RHN and my pc is routinely freezing during the updates.
 I've reseated my RAM and Video card thinking maybe somehow they came
 loose.Anyone run into this before or know how to fix it?Mike

 Hi Mike - It might be a bad piece of RAM.  Go to http://memtest86.com
 and download the standalone Ram test called memtest86.  It runs
 standalone from a floppy and does a superb job of exhaustively testing
 your RAM.  There are many types of memory errors which the simple boot-up
 memory tests don't check for.  Memtest86 can run for hours or days (if
 you want it to ) doing exhaustive testing of your RAM.  Everybody should
 have a Memtest86 floppy in their desk.


 Also - please don't post HTML to this list.  It costs our UK list members
 extra money when you do.  thanks.

 You're mailing from MS Outlook Express. Here aresome instructions
 on ho to set it up so it doesn't send out HTML format.

 http://expita.com/nomime.html#outlook5

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Re: system freeze ...

2003-03-23 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 05:40:01PM -0500, Mike Taggart wrote:
 Sorry bout the HTML email - it's OE's default for me and I simply forgot to
 change it over to Plain Text.

Yeah, all the MS mail programs seem to default to it, thats why I pointed to
the instructions for changing the default.  That way nobody has to remember.

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Re: Remove all existing partitions

2003-03-23 Thread nate
Douglas Alan said:

 In that case, you can explicitly delete these partitions or configure the
 install program to delete these partitions for you, rather than have the
 install program *automatically* delete them for you.

looking at the kickstart docs(again never used it myself), there seems
to be an option to delete only linux partitions, so MSWin32 partitions
would be unaffected.

http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/custom-guide/s1-ksconfig-partitions.html

 To clear the Master Boot Record, select Yes  beside the option on the top
of the window. You can choose to keep the existing partitions, remove all
the existing partitions, or remove all the existing Linux partitions by
selecting None, All, or Linux, respectively, next to Remove Partitions.


 Exactly.  But my standard config is limited to the boot disk drive.  In
 fact, I explicitly told Kickstart to *only* make partitions on the boot
 disk drive.  It has no good reason to mess with the partition tables of
 disk drives that it is not putting partitions onto.

In your view yes, in my view no. Just seeing the words Remove all
existing partitions, immediately meant to me, it will remove every
partition on the system(hence the 'all'). And again, I've never used
kickstart so thats a view from an outsider(though I have used solaris
jumpstart). I do admit though the documentation should be improved to
make this information more clear. Maybe they could also introduce another
option Remove partitions on configured disks only. So that if you
specify a partition table it will wipe the partition table on that
particular disk(s) rather then all disks on the system.


 Indeed.  How does this imply that the OS installer should delete
 patitions on drives it was told not to put partitions onto?

Because you told it to :) (again, a documentation issue I think, the
behavior is good in my view)

 It's not my job to backup anyone's data.  That's each user's
 responsibility.  Nor did I have a place to back it up to, even if I had
 wanted to.  And the only reason I was doing an OS install, is because the
 Red Hat upgrader made the computer unbootable.

Debian's upgrader has never made my systems unbootable, infact it
explicitly will NOT upgrade the kernel on any system automatically,
even during major(2.2-3.0) upgrades. Not sure what made your machine
unbootable but doing a SuSE 7.3-8.0 upgrade last yer on my sister's
dual p2 machine made it unbootable(ACPI drivers causing the system
to freeze, had to recompile the kernel since they didn't have a packaged
SMP kernel w/o ACPI).

though debian isn't for everyone of course..

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Re: Console MP3 Players

2003-03-23 Thread Alejandro Calbazana
Thanks!  This works great!

Alejandro
- Original Message -
From: nate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Console MP3 Players


 Alejandro Calbazana said:
  Hello,
 
  I've downloaded mpg123 as a console MP3 player.  Everything works great,
  but I am curious... Is there any way to control volume from the console?

 there are several console mixers available for linux. my favorite is
 'rexima'. I am not certain if it is available in stock redhat or not.

 if not, it's homepage seems to be here:
 http://rus.members.beeb.net/rexima.html

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environment variables for specific groups?

2003-03-23 Thread Alejandro Calbazana
Hello,

I am setting up CVS and would like to have a set of environment variables
set and exported for a given group (my cvs group).

I know that putting variables in /etc/profile will make vars. available
globally, and I know that using id -G will tell me what groups a user
belongs to.

Thinking out loud... I guess I could create separate profiles based on group
ids and load the appropriate file based on group id.

Is there a cleaner way of setting env. variables for a specific group rather
than looping through the values returned in id -G?

Thanks,

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Re: SSH quirk...

2003-03-23 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 14:28 23 Mar 2003, Ashley M. Kirchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| nate wrote:
| yes I have noticed this from time to time. It's quite rare for me,
| but does happen. Haven't investigated much yet myself. quite odd,
|Okay, I'm not going crazy then.  For me it only happens whenever I 
| execute some restart (or stop/start) init script.  Any other time I can 
| log in and out just fine.  It almost seems as if ssh expects whatever 
| process you started to quit or something.  Like it won't exit if there's 
| something tied to it.  Bizarre.

If you're dicking with an ethernet interface or firewall rules
it can cut your connection off from the RST packet, so your ssh
connection never sees the drop of the connection, just silence.
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Re: A code editor with auto-indentation ?

2003-03-23 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 10:04:50PM +0100, Julien Olivier wrote:
 Le ven 21/03/2003 à 22:03, Jeff Kinz a écrit :
[...]
  macro to make it do anything you want it to do.  All the keybindings are
  re-programmable.   Just read the docs and start hacking! :-)
  
 
 Aaargh ! I hoped nobody would answer me that :( The fact is I'm...
 afraid of trying to customize Emacs... it looks so complicated...
[...]

Well, if you just want to make copy/paste easier, have a look at
pc-select.el - it's included in the XEmacs distribution and on RHL.
I use it in the config file like this:

(load pc-select)
(pc-select-mode)

You can then use Shift-MOVEMENT to mark text and the DOS-like
Ctrl-Insert, Shift-Insert, Shift-Del sequences to Copy, Paste, Kill.

Cheerio,

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Re: dmesg output - please interpret

2003-03-23 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 05:29 23 Mar 2003, Michael Mansour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  | SNIP
|  | hdc: ATAPI 20X CD-ROM drive, 120kB Cache
|  | Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
|  | cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I
|  recognize!
|  | cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I
|  recognize!
|  |
|  | ??  in fstab... do you have auto in the cdrom
|  line???
|  
|  I'm more inclined to think he has an audio CD in the
|  drive, not a data CD.
| 
| The cd drive is empty actually... I thought it had
| something to do with the KDE automounter always
| checking the cd drive to see if something is in it?

Hmm, yes. Sounds likely to me, though you'd expect a better message;
CD drives happily return a sane no medium error. Sounds like magicdev
is being unhelpful in its messages. If it's magicdev, which I think it is.

I always disable magicdev and just use an entry in my automounter for
the CD, so when you know there's a data disc in it you can just cd
/mnt/cdrom and it gets mounted then. Not probing in the background.
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Re: SSH quirk...

2003-03-23 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Cameron Simpson wrote:

If you're dicking with an ethernet interface or firewall rules
it can cut your connection off from the RST packet, so your ssh
connection never sees the drop of the connection, just silence.
   Well DUH.  Obviously.  smirk

   If you go back to my original message, you'll see that I said this 
happens with *any* script.

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Re: SSH quirk...

2003-03-23 Thread Rick Johnson
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
   One thing I've noticed since day one and never really bothered with 
it, although now I wonder  If I ssh to any of my servers, execute an 
init script restart (or stop, start), then exit, the remote ssh process 
never quits.  I have to kill the actual process from where I ssh-ed from 
(or presumably the remote process would produce the same effect):

   [ server-1 ] -- ssh into -- [ server-2 ]

   In this scenario, say I execute any restart command, rndc, sendmail, 
nfs, anything, then type exit, it just hangs.  server-2 never issues a 
connection close or anything.  I have a log in from a second terminal to 
server-1 and kill the ssh process that goes to server-2 (or log onto 
server-2 from a different terminal and kill the process.)

   It doesn't matter what server I'm ssh FROM nor TO (I have about 10 of 
them,) it happens consistently on all of them.

   All machines are running RH7.3, with the following openssh packages 
installed:

   # rpm -qa | grep openssh
   openssh-3.1p1-6
   openssh-clients-3.1p1-6
   openssh-server-3.1p1-6
   Has anyone noticed this?
I've noticed this on machines where the services attaches itself to your 
/dev/pts/## session. Until the process is restarted or the SSH session 
is remotely killed, the session will remain open. VSFTPd (standalone 
from RawHide) and webmin are two services off the top of my head that 
will do this guarenteed.

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Re: Ext3fs/ReiserFS Performance Enhancing

2003-03-23 Thread Edward Dekkers
 I have been doing some research to find a method to increase the
 performance of writes to the hard drives in my servers. I am running
 Samba and all writes to the server hard drives are taking at least 3 to
 10 times (It varies) the amount of time it took to write such files on
 our older Windows NT 4.0 File Server.

I don't know if changing filesystems will fix your problem. You're sure it's
a local file system problem?

For example, what happens if you copy 650Mb worth of data from the CD to the
HDD using the console?

Same bad writing performance?

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Cannot Log Into Redhat 8.0

2003-03-23 Thread CM Miller

I have two Red Hat machines and I don't have a KVM
switch, but I share the monitor and keyboard between
the two by unplugging one and then plugging into the
other. 

Well, when plugging the keyboard/monitor back into the
RH 8.0 box and rebooting into run control 3, it will
not allow me to log in.  It will allow me to type in a
user id and password, but it doesn't log me onto the
system. 

I've rebooted a few times.  Is there anyway around
this? 

thanks

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Re: Xfree86 not booting

2003-03-23 Thread Edward Dekkers
 Yes.. i can run XF86Config. However... It was very confusing.. then when i
 went to save it to the default location.. it said it couldnt open the file
 for writing?

You need to run it as the root user I think.

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Re: Installing a new motherboard - anything special to do?

2003-03-23 Thread Edward Dekkers
 I would like to get a new motherboard with faster CPU. I am running RH
 8.0. If I just plug in the board and boot up will RH8.0 recognize the
 new board and the hardware?

Never heard of a brand named 'new'.

Seriously though - how are we supposed to know when you don't specify Make 
Model, nor what other devices you are running (SCSI? IDE?).

Improve the question.

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Re: Cannot Log Into Redhat 8.0

2003-03-23 Thread nate
CM Miller said:

 I've rebooted a few times.  Is there anyway around
 this?

sounds like a more serious problem..hmm.. You also cannot
login as root? does it say Login Incorrect or does it
give some other message? can you type the password on the
username prompt so you can see that all the characters come
through as you type?(then backspace them out).

is it a fresh install or upgrade? did anything unusual happen
to the system recently otherwise(crash, etc)? Are you pretty
sure your system has not been compromised?

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Re: Mouse Issues

2003-03-23 Thread Edward Dekkers
 MY XF86Config has no Pointer section.. only a input device section... and
 this mouse worked with X11 in Mandrake.. so why wont it work in redhat
then?
 What should i do abou the no pointer section in my XF86Config?

Make one. Also, please be aware that Mandrake, although based on RedHat, IS
NOT RedHat.

Just because soemthing works in one, doesn't always mean it will work in the
other.

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Re: problem with audio card

2003-03-23 Thread Edward Dekkers
 I have a Advance Logic ALS300+ PCI audio card but the Sound Card Detection
 utility
 says that the module is disabled (and of course i can here no sound by
 clicking on the test button). Your hardware compatibility list does not
 contain my audio card model. But why then Sound Card Detection can see the
 model?

 Best regards,

 Pierfrancesco Lostia

'Your hardware compatability list' does not apply here, Pier. We are NOT
Redhat, just a bunch of people using RedHat and have gained some experience
from it over the years. If you want technical support, you buy the boxed
product, and ring the support number.

Hint: Just because RedHat knows what the card is, does not mean it has a
driver for it.

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Re: Disk Errors then a crash

2003-03-23 Thread Edward Dekkers
Mar 21 22:11:09 wolfserver kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ida0(72,1)):
 read_block_bitmap: Cannot read block bitmap - block_group = 7,
 block_bitmap = 229380
 Mar 21 22:11:09 wolfserver kernel: Fatal error on ida/c0d0

 After this, the messages just repeat until the crash...

HHmmm. Find out what make/model the hard drive is, go to the web site, then
download and run the Hard Disk diagnostic software.

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Configuring X Windows with Redhat 8

2003-03-23 Thread Doug Almquist
I recently upgraded my motherboard to an ASUS with onboard NVIDIA graphics.
I installed Redhat 8 and can't find the utility to configure X.
Xconfigurator is evidently gone and I can't otherwise get X loaded.  The
'screens' seem to be misconfigured.

What's the new utility for doing this?

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Re: XMMS stutters constantly

2003-03-23 Thread Edward Dekkers
 Thanks to those who suggested hdparm, but it had no effect.  I first
 noticed the problem during disk access, but xmms also sometimes skips
 when I just move the mouse over something with a tooltip.  I got rid of
 my desktop background, and it still skips when I move windows around,
 but not as much.   I'm also (occasionally) getting that double-keystroke
 problem others are talking about.

 I'll try a Linus kernel and see what happens.

 Krum

You might wanna check if the sound card and video card are sharing an
interrupt.

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Re: XMMS stutters constantly

2003-03-23 Thread Gerry Doris
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Edward Dekkers wrote:

  Thanks to those who suggested hdparm, but it had no effect.  I first
  noticed the problem during disk access, but xmms also sometimes skips
  when I just move the mouse over something with a tooltip.  I got rid of
  my desktop background, and it still skips when I move windows around,
  but not as much.   I'm also (occasionally) getting that double-keystroke
  problem others are talking about.
 
  I'll try a Linus kernel and see what happens.
 
  Krum
 
 You might wanna check if the sound card and video card are sharing an
 interrupt.
 
 Regards,
 
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 Triple D Computer Services P/L

This was exactly the problem I had several years ago...the sound card was 
sharing an interrupt with another card.  The sound stuttered like crazy.

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Re: Configuring X Windows with Redhat 8

2003-03-23 Thread Michael Fratoni
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On Sunday 23 March 2003 08:26 pm, Doug Almquist wrote:
 I recently upgraded my motherboard to an ASUS with onboard NVIDIA
 graphics. I installed Redhat 8 and can't find the utility to configure
 X. Xconfigurator is evidently gone and I can't otherwise get X loaded. 
 The 'screens' seem to be misconfigured.

 What's the new utility for doing this?

redhat-config-xfree86

Hope that helps,
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NewBie: serviceconf replacement

2003-03-23 Thread Geoffrey Lane
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Re: Remove all existing partitions

2003-03-23 Thread Douglas Alan
nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  In that case, you can explicitly delete these partitions or configure the
  install program to delete these partitions for you, rather than have the
  install program *automatically* delete them for you.

 looking at the kickstart docs(again never used it myself), there seems
 to be an option to delete only linux partitions, so MSWin32 partitions
 would be unaffected.

That wasn't the problem, though.  I didn't have any Windows partitions.
It deleted Linux data partitions on disk dives uninvolved in the OS
installation.

  Exactly.  But my standard config is limited to the boot disk drive.  In
  fact, I explicitly told Kickstart to *only* make partitions on the boot
  disk drive.  It has no good reason to mess with the partition tables of
  disk drives that it is not putting partitions onto.

 In your view yes, in my view no.

No software should ever be designed to surprise the user in a disastrous
fashion.  Ever.  And whether the user is surprised, should not hinge on
some footnote in the documentation or on how someone might read a
particular sentence.  In fact, it shouldn't depend on reading any
documentation on all.  Like with the law, there is a reasonable person
principle for good software design.  If you were a reasonable person,
and you gave your computer to another reasonable person, and you asked
him to install an OS onto the boot drive, and you told him that it was
okay to wipe your disk, the reasonable person would not go and
intentionally wipe all your other disks on the computer too.  Such a
person would be an idiot -- not a reasonable person.  In as much as it
is feasible, software should behave the same way as us reasonable
people.

Any view counter to this view is wrong, regardless of whether someone
may happen to hold such a counter view.  Furthermore, there would never
be any advantage to removing partitions on a disk drive uninvolved in
the OS install.  No software should ever behave in a way that has no
advantage over othe more reasonable behaviors.

 Just seeing the words Remove all existing partitions, immediately
 meant to me, it will remove every partition on the system(hence the
 'all'). And again, I've never used kickstart so thats a view from an
 outsider(though I have used solaris jumpstart). I do admit though the
 documentation should be improved to make this information more clear.

There's nothing wrong with the documentation.  The problem is with the
way the software behaves.  It should be modified to behave reasonably.
It couldn't take more that two or three lines of code to make it do so.

 Maybe they could also introduce another option Remove partitions on
 configured disks only.

There's no need for such an option.  That's how it should always behave.

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Re: Configuring X Windows with Redhat 8

2003-03-23 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 17:26 23 Mar 2003, Doug Almquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I recently upgraded my motherboard to an ASUS with onboard NVIDIA graphics.
| I installed Redhat 8 and can't find the utility to configure X.
| Xconfigurator is evidently gone and I can't otherwise get X loaded.  The
| 'screens' seem to be misconfigured.
| 
| What's the new utility for doing this?

The X server itself can usually be used. See this:

http://www.redhat.com/mailing-lists/redhat-install-list/msg57534.html

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Re: Disk Errors then a crash

2003-03-23 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 09:20 24 Mar 2003, Edward Dekkers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Mar 21 22:11:09 wolfserver kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ida0(72,1)):
|  read_block_bitmap: Cannot read block bitmap - block_group = 7,
|  block_bitmap = 229380
|  Mar 21 22:11:09 wolfserver kernel: Fatal error on ida/c0d0
| 
|  After this, the messages just repeat until the crash...
| 
| HHmmm. Find out what make/model the hard drive is, go to the web site, then
| download and run the Hard Disk diagnostic software.

There's also a badblocks command (if you can still be into Linux at all).
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kernel panic

2003-03-23 Thread paool 66_7
Hello,
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(Band resize partition, I got an error--
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(Bisofs_read_super: bread faild, dev=03:03, iso_blknum=16, block=32
(Bkernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:03
(B
(BWhat should I do now?
(BI started up by "linux rescue" , but /etc/fstab, /etc/lilo.conf and /boot
(Bhave disappeared.
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Configuring X Windows with Redhat 8

2003-03-23 Thread Christopher Russell
Would you mind sharing which model of ASUS mobo you have?
- ASUS and NVIDIA show up in various lists.
TIA






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RE: Configuring X Windows with Redhat 8

2003-03-23 Thread Doug Almquist
The board I'm having trouble with is the
Asus A7N266-VM nForce motherboard

Built upon the advanced nForce chipset architecture, the A7N266-VM/AA
features powerful GeForce2 level 3D graphics, audio and LAN for an
all-in-one solution with unmatched performance and value.

Summary
CPU: AMD Athlon XP/Athlon/Duron processors
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce 220-D/MCP-D
FSB: 200/266MHz
Memory: PC2100 DDR
Expandability: (1)2x/4x AGP, (3) 32-bit PCI
IDE: (2) ATA33/66/100
Integrated GeForce2 MX graphics
6-channel Dolby Digital ready audio
Integrated 10/100 LAN
microATX form factor



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Would you mind sharing which model of ASUS mobo you have?
- ASUS and NVIDIA show up in various lists.
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How to install Winex 2.2.1 on RedHat 8 start games

2003-03-23 Thread Smith, David-B
Hope someone can help a Linux newbie with a stupid question!:

I want to play Civilization 3 on RedHat 8 Linux. I have downloaded and
installed Winex 2.2.1, it seems to install fine.  The Transgaming directory
goes into /usr/lib.

Using a shell I then go to /mnt/cdrom, and type winex Civilization 3,
which is the game's .exe

the response is:

wine: lstat /home/dave/.transgaming/wineserver-localhost.localdomain/socket
: No such file or directory

This makes sense since transgaming is in /usr/lib, not /home/dave, but how
can I tell it to execute from the correct directory?

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Temp /tmp space...

2003-03-23 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
   I'm running into a problem with my /tmp during a large ImageMagick 
mpeg 'convert' - it's running out of space.  /tmp has 2 Gb allocated to 
it and the process quits after hitting 2 Gb.  Is there some way I can 
have the process use some other location for temp space, instead of /tmp 
?  (the command line is simply 'convert -delay 10 *.jpg file.mpg' which 
creates a temp file for each frame)

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Re: Temp /tmp space...

2003-03-23 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:

Is there some way I can have the process use some other location for 
temp space, instead of /tmp ?
   Never mind, figured it out...setting $ENV{TMPDIR} works.

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Re: Temp /tmp space...

2003-03-23 Thread nate
Ashley M. Kirchner said:

 I'm running into a problem with my /tmp during a large ImageMagick
 mpeg 'convert' - it's running out of space.  /tmp has 2 Gb allocated to
 it and the process quits after hitting 2 Gb.  Is there some way I can
 have the process use some other location for temp space, instead of /tmp
 ?  (the command line is simply 'convert -delay 10 *.jpg file.mpg' which
 creates a temp file for each frame)

many programs obey the TMP and/or TMPDIR variables..

mkdir ~/tmp
export TMP=~/tmp
export TMPDIR=~/tmpdir

not all though.

looks like imagemagick supports the TMPDIR variable according to the FAQ

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Re: apcupsd on Red Hat 7.3 and Back-UPS XS USB

2003-03-23 Thread David Kramer
On Friday 21 March 2003 12:09 pm, Rilindo Foster wrote:
 How about specifying the directory when running the configure script - like
 this:

 /configure --prefix=/usr/local --sbindir=/usr/local/sbin
 --with-serial-dev=/ dev/usb/hid/hiddev[0-9] --with-upstype=usb
 --with-upscable=usb --enable-pthr eads --enable-usb

The problem isn't the names of the directories not being in the Makefile, the 
problem is the commands to create them are missing.

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linux driver porting from 32 bit to 64 bit

2003-03-23 Thread Prasanta Sadhukhan
Hi all,

I want to port linux(redhat linux 8.0) driver from 32 bit to 64 bit
Intel architecture.
Can anyone tell me what needs to be done   or where can I find relevant
information.

Any help will be highly appreciated.

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Re: Console MP3 Players

2003-03-23 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
use aumix. 
rrs
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, Alejandro Calbazana wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I've downloaded mpg123 as a console MP3 player.  Everything works great, but I am 
 curious... Is there any way to control volume from the console?  
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: dmesg output - please interpret

2003-03-23 Thread Jeff Lane
True, me too...but if that output is the contents of /var/log/dmesg, 
isnt that the dmesg output from boot time?  Looked like a boot dmesg to 
me at least... which is why I was asking...  if its an audio cd, or 
perhaps a blank cdr, then either way he shouldnt have a cdrom listing 
set to automount in fstab...

just my 2 cents...

Jeff

Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 12:25 22 Mar 2003, Jeff Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Michael Mansour wrote:
| SNIP
| hdc: ATAPI 20X CD-ROM drive, 120kB Cache
| Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
| cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
| cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
|
| ??  in fstab... do you have auto in the cdrom line???
I'm more inclined to think he has an audio CD in the drive, not a data CD.

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Re: dmesg output - please interpret

2003-03-23 Thread Jeff Lane
Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 05:29 23 Mar 2003, Michael Mansour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|
| The cd drive is empty actually... I thought it had
| something to do with the KDE automounter always
| checking the cd drive to see if something is in it?
Hmm, yes. Sounds likely to me, though you'd expect a better message;
CD drives happily return a sane no medium error. Sounds like magicdev
is being unhelpful in its messages. If it's magicdev, which I think it is.
I always disable magicdev and just use an entry in my automounter for
the CD, so when you know there's a data disc in it you can just cd
/mnt/cdrom and it gets mounted then. Not probing in the background.
First thing I always do when building a Red Hat system...  rpm -e magicdev

that and linuxconf have given me nothing but grief...  and for what its 
worth, when I worked at Red Hat, the first thing we would say to a 
customer who was having CDROM issues was rpm -e magicdev and try 
again... heh

Cheers
Jeff


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French caracter problem

2003-03-23 Thread Joey
I have problem with french caracter (,,).
I can't display them in xterm.
Some people said to me that it was a locale problem but it only resolute
my problem to display them on a shell. (sorry in don't speak english
very well).
thanks
joey,
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